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April 19, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
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Would anyone mind if we exclude Meta and Beginners and Help boards from next week?

You can certainly post there, but only it won't be counted. But, if we find very useful posts in Beginners and Help we will certainly count them. Smiley

What do you think?

I don't mind.

edit: Beginners section should be discouraged actually. Lots of newbies could be affected and loose money on gambling. I don't want something like that. Gambling is for fun not for ripping off people.

Agreed. Beginners & Help boards will be excluded from next week. Smiley

I also think it will be very easy for someone to rephrase and post what someone else posted before.





I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor ther

EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but e

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo
continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam

Meta board is not being considered because of that, just that it is not very relevant to signature campaigns. Wink

There is an issue with stricting up more though, some of the participants will get very small amounts...

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April 19, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
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I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor there

EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but e

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo
continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam

Meta board is not being considered because of that, just that it is not very relevant to signature campaigns. Wink

There is an issue with stricting up more though, some of the participants will get very small amounts...



Good point, but also you should note that limiting the boards will actually makes the spammers to move their spam post too, once you excluded meta, beginners and help and the other boards, the spammer will find another boards to spam. That is why I choose to stricten up the counting tho  Smiley

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Last edit: April 19, 2015, 04:29:19 PM by ndnhc
 #103

I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor there

EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but e

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo
continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam

Meta board is not being considered because of that, just that it is not very relevant to signature campaigns. Wink

There is an issue with stricting up more though, some of the participants will get very small amounts...



Good point, but also you should note that limiting the boards will actually makes the spammers to move their spam post too, once you excluded meta, beginners and help and the other boards, the spammer will find another boards to spam. That is why I choose to stricten up the counting tho  Smiley

Yes, that is exactly the counter point we face.. Sad

Since bit-x might soon exclude the entire part of other section and we also do kind of the same, all spam will go to marketplace and economy boards. (If that is the case, it is going to be stricter as you said)
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April 19, 2015, 04:07:09 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.
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April 19, 2015, 04:28:41 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

I certainly included "might" and "soon".

Well, you got Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, Off-topic, Meta....

Our campaign already excludes Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help will be excluded from next week.

Meta is being considered now. Smiley
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April 19, 2015, 04:29:33 PM
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I dont mind about it since I dont posted in beginners and help section , the same goes for meta section which I spent less time to monitor there

EDIT : another option is to stricten up the counting as I do see some of the post in beginners and help is usefull enough .

For example when someone newbie asking about what is a signed message, first and second posts explaining about it might be usefull , but e

Any reason why meta is excluded because I dont see much spam for this section , instead, politics and society is the section that has higher spam post imo
continous explanation about the same answer is considered a spam

Meta board is not being considered because of that, just that it is not very relevant to signature campaigns. Wink

There is an issue with stricting up more though, some of the participants will get very small amounts...



Good point, but also you should note that limiting the boards will actually makes the spammers to move their spam post too, once you excluded meta, beginners and help and the other boards, the spammer will find another boards to spam. That is why I choose to stricten up the counting tho  Smiley

Yes, that is exactly the counter point we face.. Sad

Since bit-x might soon exclude the entire other section and we also do kind of the same, all spam will go to marketplace and economy boards. (If that is the case, it is going to be stricter as you said)

right, this is like double edge swords, whichever option is selected there will be a counter for that and there is already alot of spam in there which you can see that lot of same user keep on asking this

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can you sign a message from an old edited posts

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has the account been banned before?

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your site is great, bla bla bla

Not to mention alot more  Wink


I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

If i remember correctly , you posted that you gonna exclude meta and the beginners and help, but I could find it, did you delete them or you never posted it?

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April 19, 2015, 04:33:22 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

If i remember correctly , you posted that you gonna exclude meta and the beginners and help, but I could find it, did you delete them or you never posted it?


NO CHANGES UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

From this moment on: Meta, auctions, politics & society do not count towards a user's post count. This will last until the start of the new campaign, when things will change. (1 or 2 weeks from now).

This big change was brought by the large increase in spam.

Beginners & help may soon be excluded too, if posters do not improve.

If you spam, or post unneeded replies, you will be kicked. End of discussion.

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April 19, 2015, 04:36:57 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

I certainly included "might" and "soon".

Well, you got Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, Off-topic, Meta....

Our campaign already excludes Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help will be excluded from next week.

Meta is being considered now. Smiley

That's was a wise decision since I saw many account re-create some old thread or useless topic with same replies again and again.

I'm wonder what next section that will be spam if those section (Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help)  got excluded  Cheesy


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April 19, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

I certainly included "might" and "soon".

Well, you got Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, Off-topic, Meta....

Our campaign already excludes Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help will be excluded from next week.

Meta is being considered now. Smiley

Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, and Meta are allowed in the Bit-X campaign just to clear any confusion.
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April 19, 2015, 05:50:53 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

I certainly included "might" and "soon".

Well, you got Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, Off-topic, Meta....

Our campaign already excludes Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help will be excluded from next week.

Meta is being considered now. Smiley

Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, and Meta are allowed in the Bit-X campaign just to clear any confusion.

O, sorry, I didn't mean it that way. lol.

Thanks for clarifying.
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April 19, 2015, 05:54:45 PM
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I haven't excluded, nor have I said that I will exclude, the whole other board.

I certainly included "might" and "soon".

Well, you got Archival, Beginners & Help, Politics and Society, Off-topic, Meta....

Our campaign already excludes Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help will be excluded from next week.

Meta is being considered now. Smiley

That's was a wise decision since I saw many account re-create some old thread or useless topic with same replies again and again.

I'm wonder what next section that will be spam if those section (Off-topic, partially Politics & Society, and Beginners & Help)  got excluded  Cheesy

Yeah, if the spam redirects to any other board, we will make the post counting extra strict. Dunno what else to do...

Or instead of making the exclusions, simply make post counting super strict?? I am considering this alternative now. lol.. Wink
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April 19, 2015, 06:16:26 PM
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ndhnc do you accept more senior members
because i seen that you got 25/25 would you accept more?

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April 19, 2015, 07:07:42 PM
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ndhnc do you accept more senior members
because i seen that you got 25/25 would you accept more?

It is ndnhc. Smiley  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026731.0  lol Wink

Yeah, Just changed it to 7 total spots available.. Wink
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ndhnc do you accept more senior members
because i seen that you got 25/25 would you accept more?

It is ndnhc. Smiley  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026731.0  lol Wink

Yeah, Just changed it to 7 total spots available.. Wink
please reserve me 1 spot
i will be joining next sunday!!!i really like you campaign!!

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April 19, 2015, 09:41:17 PM
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ndhnc do you accept more senior members
because i seen that you got 25/25 would you accept more?

It is ndnhc. Smiley  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026731.0  lol Wink

Yeah, Just changed it to 7 total spots available.. Wink
please reserve me 1 spot
i will be joining next sunday!!!i really like you campaign!!

Im sorry but I do think there is no reserve in spot for this since the demand to join this campaign is quite high at the moment  Cheesy . Since you will be joining in next sunday which is 7 more days from now, I do think that is it better for you to just join up now since you have just gotten your payment

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April 19, 2015, 10:08:55 PM
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ndhnc do you accept more senior members
because i seen that you got 25/25 would you accept more?

It is ndnhc. Smiley  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1026731.0  lol Wink

Yeah, Just changed it to 7 total spots available.. Wink
please reserve me 1 spot
i will be joining next sunday!!!i really like you campaign!!

Confirming the above post.

I cannot reserve a spot. If I was to reserve a spot, no spot would have been available atm. lol. Wink
Well, chances are there might a few spots left when you intend to join. Smiley

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April 19, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
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Would anyone mind if we exclude Meta and Beginners and Help boards from next week?

You can certainly post there, but only it won't be counted. But, if we find very useful posts in Beginners and Help we will certainly count them. Smiley

What do you think?


I guess I think it's kinda a bad idea.  The more you limit which posts you pay for the less competitive your campaign is (remember "da best campaign"?).  Secondarily, why wouldn't dadice want to advertize in these sections.  In Meta you often have very intelligent discussions going about the forum itself and how it should be run, how it is run.  There are a lot of old-school bitcoiners in that section.  Surely dadice wants them to come gambling.

Similarly, beginners and help can be a great place where the dadice message can be associated with positivity and contructiveness.  When someone is stuck on a technical detail, and someone else answers them with dadice signature, I would think that would be a valuable association for dadice.
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April 19, 2015, 11:47:08 PM
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Would anyone mind if we exclude Meta and Beginners and Help boards from next week?

You can certainly post there, but only it won't be counted. But, if we find very useful posts in Beginners and Help we will certainly count them. Smiley

What do you think?


I guess I think it's kinda a bad idea.  The more you limit which posts you pay for the less competitive your campaign is (remember "da best campaign"?).  Secondarily, why wouldn't dadice want to advertize in these sections.  In Meta you often have very intelligent discussions going about the forum itself and how it should be run, how it is run.  There are a lot of old-school bitcoiners in that section.  Surely dadice wants them to come gambling.

Similarly, beginners and help can be a great place where the dadice message can be associated with positivity and contructiveness.  When someone is stuck on a technical detail, and someone else answers them with dadice signature, I would think that would be a valuable association for dadice.

You got a point, but ndnhc has already excluded two boards for next week due to the high number of spam in that boards. For me, I do think that it is better to stricten up the post counting rather than excluding some boards as there are always potential new player for the sites and also the spammer will move from the excluded boards because it is not counted anymore.

By strictening the post counting, some spammers will get their lesson and the risk of not getting paid for their spam post and also a risk to be reported to badbear as well

Well, this is how I see it should be handled, anyway the decision will be up to ndnhc, bf4btc and also dadice

Announcement:
Beginners & Help and Politics & Society boards will be excluded from next week on-wards.

You may however post there as usual. They won't be counted tho.

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April 20, 2015, 05:34:52 AM
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Would anyone mind if we exclude Meta and Beginners and Help boards from next week?

You can certainly post there, but only it won't be counted. But, if we find very useful posts in Beginners and Help we will certainly count them. Smiley

What do you think?



Yeah I agree, read my suggestion here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1031511.msg11133478#msg11133478

I think Politics & Society should also be excluded, that board more or less has turned into another sub-forum where all the off-topic discussions take place. Apply this rule from next week and post your agreement their if you agree, so other campaign managers can also follow this decision if they see it right.

 

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April 20, 2015, 08:16:34 AM
Last edit: April 20, 2015, 08:54:13 AM by ndnhc
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Thanks Cheesy Cheesy

Here are the almost finalized new rules:
1. Politics & Society and Beginners & Help partially excluded.
Only strictly constructive posts in both sections will be counted. If it has already been answered and does not contribute anything significant, the post will be ignored.

2. Off-topic excluded.

3. Meta boards included.

4. Local boards included. (Constructive, non off-topic, only as usual. counting of such posts capped at 15% of total posts in the week)

5. Constructive posts in Altcoin boards included.


Grading will be based fully on constructiveness.

Post counting will be stricter.

Grades with C- or less will run the risk of getting removed from the campaign next week.

How should we encourage participants who post in relevant boards like Gambling board?
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