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March 18, 2015, 11:27:23 AM |
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Is anyone else shocked at this?
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March 18, 2015, 11:37:47 AM Last edit: March 18, 2015, 11:56:53 AM by herzmeister |
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well, typical and nothing new for certain leftist groups... it's not exactly an elegant strategy to change the world for sure
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"This is not what Blockupy planned"
So there's Agents provocateurs there then?
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March 18, 2015, 11:41:16 AM |
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well, typical and nothing new for certain leftist groups... it's not exactly an elegant strategy to change the world for sure
Just seems to have escalated very quickly. I understand that extreme lefties have no respect for any property which is inherent in their ideology, but the level of destruction is just stupid. I suppose I'm not familiar with blockupy though.
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March 18, 2015, 11:42:08 AM |
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EDIT:
"This is not what Blockupy planned"
So there's Agent provocateurs there then?
Could be, the thought always crosses my mind in situations like this.
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March 18, 2015, 11:51:58 AM |
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I'm very surprised. Usually, unlike in neighboring France, this kind of things do not happen in Germany. Frankfurters will be shocked, as anyone in Germany. The Polizei isn't what it was, and I know many who will call for the police to be tougher. More pics: http://www.dw.de/schwere-krawalle-bei-ezb-er%C3%B6ffnung-in-frankfurt/a-18322182
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March 18, 2015, 11:57:41 AM |
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Well, it's the EZB, we are the EU now, so there's protesters from all over Europe. :·>
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March 18, 2015, 01:24:01 PM |
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Well, it's the EZB, we are the EU now, so there's protesters from all over Europe. :·>
You can't really complain that in Germany they use the German acronym for the central bank! It doesn't mean that Germany runs the EU or the EU central bank, but it would be stupid to call it the ECB - Europäische Zentralbank I am pretty surprised at how it is kicking off in Frankfurt though. Most people in Frankfurt rely on the banks, so i would guess the people causing bother are coming in to demonstrate. There seems to be a spate of demonstrations nowadays though, pro-pegida, anti-pegida, anti-airport stuff and now this...
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March 18, 2015, 02:16:51 PM |
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Is anyone else shocked at this?
Nope. If you look closely at who is trying to clash with the police in Frankfurt then you see it's the absolute bottom of the economy. Drug addicts, homeless people, squatters, etc. You barely see people from the middleclass and up fighting there. Says enough. Germany should wipe the streets clean immidiately before they ocupy more places.
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March 18, 2015, 02:30:43 PM |
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Is anyone else shocked at this?
Nope. If you look closely at who is trying to clash with the police in Frankfurt then you see it's the absolute bottom of the economy. Drug addicts, homeless people, squatters, etc. You barely see people from the middleclass and up fighting there. Says enough. Germany should wipe the streets clean immidiately before they ocupy more places. You dont know what you're talking about, you're a typical dickhead who puts ppl in places of ''trash''. Pretty sure you dont even watched tv whats going on there.
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March 18, 2015, 02:49:51 PM |
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Is anyone else shocked at this?
Nope. If you look closely at who is trying to clash with the police in Frankfurt then you see it's the absolute bottom of the economy. Drug addicts, homeless people, squatters, etc. You barely see people from the middleclass and up fighting there. Says enough. Germany should wipe the streets clean immidiately before they ocupy more places. You dont know what you're talking about, you're a typical dickhead who puts ppl in places of ''trash''. Pretty sure you dont even watched tv whats going on there. I personally would agree with 1refs generalization and expect it to be true. I visited Occupy camps in London when they were around. The vast majority were 'opportunists' to put it kindly.
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March 18, 2015, 04:01:43 PM |
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well, typical and nothing new for certain leftist groups... it's not exactly an elegant strategy to change the world for sure
EDIT:
"This is not what Blockupy planned"
So there's Agents provocateurs there then?
You should say comunists. And I know it well because in Spain we are suffering that idiots of Podemos (we can). They want give a salary for each person independently of everything.
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/18/state-of-emergency-in-frankfurt-ecb-protests/State of Emergency in Frankfurt ECB Protests ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Farmstrongeconomics.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2FFrankfurt-Protests.jpeg%3Fresize%3D584%252C217&t=665&c=VTbhpoUdLQsLLQ) This entire experiment with the Euro is literally going down in flame. http://armstrongeconomics.com/2015/03/18/ecb-grand-opening-with-tanks-no-journalists/![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Farmstrongeconomics.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2FECB-Protests.jpg%3Fresize%3D584%252C438&t=665&c=X6IhIaYjDOHFYw) | ECB Grand Opening with Tanks & No Journalists?
Perhaps the strangest opening ever has marked the ECB in Frankfurt, Germany. The opening of the new, paid by the taxpayer office tower of the ECB, is accompanied by tanks and a military force to protect bankers. Whoever ventured on the road to the east of the city since Monday have to believe the Romans were invading and stood before the gates of the city. The ECB was strangely protected with barriers everywhere you looked, which was a reflection of their total lack of faith and disconnect with the people of Europe.
Convoys of police vans, water cannons, tanks, heavy clearance equipment and wheeled APC all surrounded the area expecting a Russian invasion of something..For two days, traffic chaos has been at historical highs that may have exceeded the chaos Obama creates when he want to play golf. The ECB appears to have intentionally tried to intimidate the population to suppress protests given the degree of their unpopularity. They spend $1.4 billion for their new tower and protesters still appeared.
This has been at odds with German culture for anyone who has been to Germany will notice that there has been a counter-reaction to the image of Hitler – they detest military and police shows. The city of Frankfurt has indeed displayed a longstanding objection to police shows so the strange aspect of this entire affair has been for the police to use this as an excuse to come out of the closet. They seem to have enjoyed the excuse to show force at last if not begging for protesters to bring it one so they can practice how to deal with their dream – training for a state of emergency.
The Frankfurt police have indeed come out of the closet. Their scaremongering has led to a military display unseen in Germany with creating an exclusion zone, danger zone, water cannons, airplanes, helicopters and about 8000 troops. All of this to protect bankers. Just amazing. What the hell does this imply?
Then, believe it or not, the ECB imposed an exclusion of the press. The ECB has decreed that their opening ceremony news agencies are permitted, but not newspaper journalists. Curious. The newspaper embargo raises the question of exactly what is behind this authoritarian show of force in the heart of Germany? |
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March 18, 2015, 06:53:33 PM |
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Is anyone else shocked at this?
well, typical and nothing new for certain leftist groups... it's not exactly an elegant strategy to change the world for sure
EDIT:
"This is not what Blockupy planned"
So there's Agents provocateurs there then?
I dont know if i`d be shocked at this or be celebrating that leftists got what they deserved lol ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) , but then again it's ironical that those thugs (the scam enforcement) on which side they are, of course on the side of the banksters. All that constant propaganda on the news that they are there to protect use and bla bla, but when stuff like this happens its actually they are the ones that are attacking us, and protecting whom? The banksters and their thug politician sellouts.
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March 18, 2015, 07:49:25 PM |
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It sure is a mess. I don't know if being misinformed and having bad ideas deserves being shot with teargas. Despite my dislike of leftists I think it just as likely that agent provocateurs were a large part of the rioting. That being said, it often doesn't take much to spark riots among angry stupid kids.
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March 18, 2015, 08:45:45 PM |
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It sure is a mess. I don't know if being misinformed and having bad ideas deserves being shot with teargas. Despite my dislike of leftists I think it just as likely that agent provocateurs were a large part of the rioting. That being said, it often doesn't take much to spark riots among angry stupid kids.
NAP or not, but being dressed like a clown in public street almost begs for them to be teargassed lol, their intelligence probably is of a mosquito, after all they are just parasites robbing from productive people and giving it to their lazy arses... Also above these nutjobs, there is definitely hidden agenda behind it, now that the EURO is weak the USD can profit from it more and delay it's inevitable collapse a bit more as big EU bankers invest in US bonds instead of greece ,portugal, spain or italy trashbonds...
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March 18, 2015, 09:08:02 PM Last edit: March 18, 2015, 09:29:14 PM by maku |
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It sure is a mess. I don't know if being misinformed and having bad ideas deserves being shot with teargas. Despite my dislike of leftists I think it just as likely that agent provocateurs were a large part of the rioting. That being said, it often doesn't take much to spark riots among angry stupid kids.
NAP or not, but being dressed like a clown in public street almost begs for them to be teargassed lol, their intelligence probably is of a mosquito, after all they are just parasites robbing from productive people and giving it to their lazy arses... Also above these nutjobs, there is definitely hidden agenda behind it, now that the EURO is weak the USD can profit from it more and delay it's inevitable collapse a bit more as big EU bankers invest in US bonds instead of greece ,portugal, spain or italy trashbonds... European Union is collapsing, that's a fact. Demonstrations and riots are just a foreshadow of things that will come later. Some of the people who protested are indeed stupid people but reaction of the police was exaggerated.
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March 18, 2015, 09:19:25 PM |
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This is the way the protestors think: “This is an expression of anger at the way European policies are affecting European citizens,” Vila said. “Today the authorities are having a party to celebrate the institutionalization of neoliberal policies on the European continent. And we are here to say there’s no consensus in the way the European policies are being imposed. This is affecting all countries.” Thousands of people have been expected to come to Frankfurt Wednesday to protest against a crisis situation in Europe they say has been created by the ECB, EU and IMF, and mainly enforced by the German government. Blockupy is an anti-capitalist alliance of leftist groups, who gather to attract attention to ECB policies which, they say, have favored the rich over the poor, the banks over the people, the creditor class over debtors. They call the current situation across the EU “the European crisis regime.” Their beliefs are not wrong, but they targeted the wrong people and their methods questionable. This Euro crisis is not caused by ECB, it is caused by governments of some EU member states.
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March 18, 2015, 09:33:51 PM |
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Nope. If you look closely at who is trying to clash with the police in Frankfurt then you see it's the absolute bottom of the economy. Drug addicts, homeless people, squatters, etc. You barely see people from the middleclass and up fighting there. Says enough. Germany should wipe the streets clean immidiately before they ocupy more places. You dont know what you're talking about, you're a typical dickhead who puts ppl in places of ''trash''. Pretty sure you dont even watched tv whats going on there. I have seen plenty of these "protestors" in real life here, and they are exactly the kind of people I described. I don't have respect for these people, they say banks are bad, government is corrupt, etc. But what are they doing themself? They burn cars, they break windows of stores and steal everything they can grab.
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European Union is collapsing, that's a fact. Demonstrations and riots are just a foreshadow of things that will come later. Some of the people who protested are indeed stupid people but reaction of the police was exaggerated.
Yes it is, for the citizens, too bad that it's not the citizens who control it but a maffia ruling class. Until they want to run it, they will. None of the individual maffias have in their interest to break it up because it would jeopardize the interstate commerce, euro is weak, but guess why? What if the global fractional rezerve ponzi scheme would cease? That would be a good start. Besides it's their own cleprocratic greed that is doing all the problems, and they think they can print out themselves off it, on the cost of the citizens. I`m sympathetic with the citizenry who are tired of these tyrants, but instead of pointing their anger at them, they just fight eachother. Classic divide & conquer, turn the people against eachother and finance both sides and then loot both sides. The state finances the police, while the "honest politicians" will stand up for the people and will go and fix the problems and save the day, and then everything will be normal and start again, creating this dichotomy in the people's head. When in fact there is only 1 ruling class playing this game again and again, and stupid tax paying sheeple fall every single time for it... ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif)
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