Scam accusation : FuckIdolPlus - Illegally selling Microsoft Product keys

[ABitNut]

What happened:
FuckIdolPlus is one of the many people on here selling Microsoft product codes they generate from MSDN subscriptions. These subscriptions themselves are also obtained in fraudulent ways.

They opened a normal sales thread, but apparantly they didn't like me pointing out that they're not allowed to sell those codes. They actually went as far as to threaten me in a pm. Then they decided to request that thread to be deleted and they opened a new moved back to a self-moderated thread instead. And of course they have deleted my reply there.

All the keys are 100% genuine and will NOT be blacklisted under any circumstances.

This is a blatant lie. You're selling keys that you produce from an MSDN account. It is not allowed to sell those. That means Microsoft can, at any time, revoke those keys.

Keys bought come with lifetime replacement warranty.

Once again a lie, see above. Unless with lifetime you mean, "As long as I can be bothered" which most likely translates to about 1 week.

Their behaviour and attitude show typical signs of being a scammer. I strongly advise not to deal with them.


Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409225

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=987244.0 (current, self moderated) and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996280 (old archived)
Amount Scammed: Unknown
Payment Method: BTC only
Proof of Payment: N/A
PM/Chat Logs: N/A
Additional Notes: This user claims to have sold a legendary account. They may have scammed with it, then sold it and are now back to scam some more.


Edit: Actually the self-moderated thread existed already. They just moved back there when they didn't like my feedback in the new thread. Updated the post to reflect this.

[ABitNut]

(reserved, just in case)

[FuckIdolPlus]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

[ABitNut]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

[FuckIdolPlus]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Never mind I'll just ignore you. You are one screwed up person. I'm NOT asking you to buy from me these MSDN keys. Just leave it. Have a good life ahead.

[Rawted]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Never mind I'll just ignore you. You are one screwed up person. I'm NOT asking you to buy from me these MSDN keys. Just leave it. Have a good life ahead.

So you are selling your college's MSDN keys, and he is the screwed up one here? You realize that's not only a violation of Microsoft's TOS, but also a federal crime? What if someone were to contact one of your buyers, and acquire one of your sold keys? You realize how easy it is to track this, correct?

[FuckIdolPlus]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Never mind I'll just ignore you. You are one screwed up person. I'm NOT asking you to buy from me these MSDN keys. Just leave it. Have a good life ahead.

So you are selling your college's MSDN keys, and he is the screwed up one here? You realize that's not only a violation of Microsoft's TOS, but also a federal crime? What if someone were to contact one of your buyers, and acquire one of your sold keys? You realize how easy it is to track this, correct?

That is why I have PayIvy links, it's anonymous.

[damiano]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Never mind I'll just ignore you. You are one screwed up person. I'm NOT asking you to buy from me these MSDN keys. Just leave it. Have a good life ahead.

So you are selling your college's MSDN keys, and he is the screwed up one here? You realize that's not only a violation of Microsoft's TOS, but also a federal crime? What if someone were to contact one of your buyers, and acquire one of your sold keys? You realize how easy it is to track this, correct?

That is why I have PayIvy links, it's anonymous.

Seems like you just admitted that they are stolen.

[Quickseller]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Any chance you could post a link that backs up the fact that it is against the EULA/TOS to sell MSDN subscriptions like this?

[FuckIdolPlus]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Never mind I'll just ignore you. You are one screwed up person. I'm NOT asking you to buy from me these MSDN keys. Just leave it. Have a good life ahead.

So you are selling your college's MSDN keys, and he is the screwed up one here? You realize that's not only a violation of Microsoft's TOS, but also a federal crime? What if someone were to contact one of your buyers, and acquire one of your sold keys? You realize how easy it is to track this, correct?

That is why I have PayIvy links, it's anonymous.

Seems like you just admitted that they are stolen.

LOL not stolen, but as the OP said these keys are in the grey area.

[FuckIdolPlus]

Fucker you spoiled my REP. This is a clear warning, post it anywhere you want, you will be dealt with. Karma will deal with you asshole. I never sold any illegitimate key. My MSDN subscription was from my college and not from buyers present here, that is why I didn't sell my admin account dickhead.
You just come out of nowhere and start messing with me -_-
Seriously dude get a life. And stand up to your bullies at school.
Dipshit asshole. I'll talk to theymos about this. Enough is enough. Enough of you nuisance. Also my self moderated thread is not a new one. It was created about a week ago. Check you facts asshole.

I sent you this PM. Let it be public. Let everyone know what kind of screwed up personality you are.

You are not allowed to sell product keys from an MSDN subscription. Read your EULA. Or google it.

I concede that your self-moderated thread is over a week old. It doesn't change much though. I throw back that I did not ruin your reputation. I've made the same comments in threads for other sellers, yet they're still actively running their illegal business. You can ask yourself what you did different from them to get a different result.

Any chance you could post a link that backs up the fact that it is against the EULA/TOS to sell MSDN subscriptions like this?

If you look in the terms and conditions it says that keys are for evaluating purposes only and so technically wouldn't be considered legal. Also once you stop your subscription keys will eventually stop working too.

Here is some more info https://forum.raymond.cc/threads/the-legality-aspects-of-using-msdn-technet-subscription-license-and-the-ugly-truth.18251/

[Vod]

FuckIdolPlus is pulling a scam.  By his own words once his illegal (stolen/hacked) MSDN subscription expires, so do all the keys that he sold.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997346.msg10845852#msg10845852

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

If we can't trust FuckIdolPlus...

...I ask you gentelmen

[Monnt]

So you are selling your college's MSDN keys, and he is the screwed up one here? You realize that's not only a violation of Microsoft's TOS, but also a federal crime? What if someone were to contact one of your buyers, and acquire one of your sold keys? You realize how easy it is to track this, correct?

Here's the thread that he was buying .edu domain email addresses: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=975708

[btcbobby]

To me, scam means you give them money and don't get anything in return.

This doesn't seem like so much of a scam; buyers know (or, at least SHOULD know based on the price they're paying) that they're buying something that is suspect. You might not like that, but unless Microsoft or the BSA comes down on Theymos, I don't see the "harm".

There's absolutely nothing different between this and the multitudes of Netflix logins, duty free cigarettes, HBOGO accounts, and all the rest. Or do you go after each of those sellers accounts too?

And yes, I know my account is a newbie, but I am certainly not a sock puppet. Just wondering why you're choosing to make a big deal on this one specific case.

[Kareem001]

To me, scam means you give them money and don't get anything in return.

This doesn't seem like so much of a scam; buyers know (or, at least SHOULD know based on the price they're paying) that they're buying something that is suspect. You might not like that, but unless Microsoft or the BSA comes down on Theymos, I don't see the "harm".

There's absolutely nothing different between this and the multitudes of Netflix logins, duty free cigarettes, HBOGO accounts, and all the rest. Or do you go after each of those sellers accounts too?

And yes, I know my account is a newbie, but I am certainly not a sock puppet. Just wondering why you're choosing to make a big deal on this one specific case.

I have bought from one of FuckIdolPlus's alt accounts, turned out to be a scam, and the keys he gave me as "compensation" didnt work and caused me big issues with my customers.

[Bit_Happy]

To me, scam means you give them money and don't get anything in return.

This doesn't seem like so much of a scam; buyers know (or, at least SHOULD know based on the price they're paying) that they're buying something that is suspect. You might not like that, but unless Microsoft or the BSA comes down on Theymos, I don't see the "harm".

There's absolutely nothing different between this and the multitudes of Netflix logins, duty free cigarettes, HBOGO accounts, and all the rest. Or do you go after each of those sellers accounts too?

And yes, I know my account is a newbie, but I am certainly not a sock puppet. Just wondering why you're choosing to make a big deal on this one specific case.

I have bought from one of FuckIdolPlus's alt accounts, turned out to be a scam, and the keys he gave me as "compensation" didnt work and caused me big issues with my customers.

Reselling cheap, shady codes is supposed to cause "big issues" with your customers.

[Kareem001]

To me, scam means you give them money and don't get anything in return.

This doesn't seem like so much of a scam; buyers know (or, at least SHOULD know based on the price they're paying) that they're buying something that is suspect. You might not like that, but unless Microsoft or the BSA comes down on Theymos, I don't see the "harm".

There's absolutely nothing different between this and the multitudes of Netflix logins, duty free cigarettes, HBOGO accounts, and all the rest. Or do you go after each of those sellers accounts too?

And yes, I know my account is a newbie, but I am certainly not a sock puppet. Just wondering why you're choosing to make a big deal on this one specific case.

I have bought from one of FuckIdolPlus's alt accounts, turned out to be a scam, and the keys he gave me as "compensation" didnt work and caused me big issues with my customers.

Reselling cheap, shady codes is supposed to cause "big issues" with your customers.

Your right on that one, i did make a mistake even thinking about giving those codes to my customers.

I have then corrected myself by buying from a single trustworthy source. MSDN codes are not shady, unless you give them to someone like FuckIdolPlus ofcourse, otherwise they are "essentially" the same thing from a software perspective. Stress on the software perspective part.

[TECSHARE]

Good to see you have joined the ranks of self proclaimed "scambusters" nut. Keep working hard and some day you too can have no life.

NOTE: Selling these keys is not a CRIMINAL act. At worst it may be considered a violation of terms of service which would be a CIVIL claim. The title of this op itself is misleading.

[Hazir]

To me, scam means you give them money and don't get anything in return.

This doesn't seem like so much of a scam; buyers know (or, at least SHOULD know based on the price they're paying) that they're buying something that is suspect. You might not like that, but unless Microsoft or the BSA comes down on Theymos, I don't see the "harm".

There's absolutely nothing different between this and the multitudes of Netflix logins, duty free cigarettes, HBOGO accounts, and all the rest. Or do you go after each of those sellers accounts too?

And yes, I know my account is a newbie, but I am certainly not a sock puppet. Just wondering why you're choosing to make a big deal on this one specific case.

I also wonder why do you target this specific individual? From what I could see he is no different that any other MSDN dealer out there, and we have 10+ of such dealers here on bitcointalk. If you are really "scambusters" please go against every single one of them. Now you are just making other sellers profit more.