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Title: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 02:45:34 PM Since Theymos has declared "Newbie Jail" obsolete, there are a lot of annoying posts; mainly to Wall Observer thread, but also everywhere on this forum. Most of them are sockpuppets (ie: clone accounts of one person and/or a team).
I've decided to publish my ignore list. It will keep the place clean for you and keep the useful posts visible. Please keep in mind that this is an ongoing work and will be revised every day. If you feel like contributing with additions and/or removals, please do so. The idea is to narrow down everyone who doesn't fit in and keep them out. Thanks for reading & using. "THE LIST" Code: dakota neat Instructions for Newbies: Go to Profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile) Then Ignore user options (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=;sa=ignprefs) Copy and paste the above names into that magic box. Presto! No more trolls! ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 02:45:49 PM Alphabetical Order:
Code: ~Lambchop Latest additions to The List as of 2015-11-09: Quote Problematic tbnys Likecandy Yolalanda !!! insideyoummm wmwmvkdvkd narco_7 Blunderbuzz ibitusera misteryed SomeGuy666 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dogie on April 10, 2015, 02:47:05 PM Direct link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=;sa=ignprefs Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 02:53:02 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 10, 2015, 02:54:01 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( You should change the id number with your forum id. My ID is 211419 and yours is 19459. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 02:55:16 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( You should change the id number with your forum id. My ID is 211419 and yours ID is 19459. Exactly. I only added the link to Profile. This is the same for every user. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 10, 2015, 02:56:40 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( You should change the id number with your forum id. My ID is 211419 and yours ID is 19459. Exactly. I only added the link to Profile. This is the same for every user. Try with this direct link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=;sa=ignprefs Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: botany on April 10, 2015, 02:57:23 PM Some of them may have been nuked.
ChildPr0nzUsers definitely was. :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 02:59:59 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( You should change the id number with your forum id. My ID is 211419 and yours ID is 19459. Exactly. I only added the link to Profile. This is the same for every user. Try with this direct link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=;sa=ignprefs Thanks for this. Seems to be working. I've added it directly. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: trout on April 10, 2015, 03:00:12 PM a simpler way to filter:
- switch off "hide signatures" option (if you had it in on) - Put on Ignore everyone with an advertisement in the signature (or at least everyone who's not advertising their own projects). - switch "hide signatures" back on The reason is that these people are paid per post. So of course they post crap. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dogie on April 10, 2015, 03:00:14 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( You should change the id number with your forum id. My ID is 211419 and yours ID is 19459. Exactly. I only added the link to Profile. This is the same for every user. Try with this direct link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=;sa=ignprefs Oh wut, I'm sure that's the one I copied! I must have got distracted and copied it again. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 03:11:31 PM a simpler way to filter: - switch off "hide signatures" option (if you had it in on) - Put on Ignore everyone with an advertisement in the signature (or at least everyone who's not advertising their own projects). - switch "hide signatures" back on The reason is that these people are paid per post. So of course they post crap. Nice info, but I beg to differ. Not everyone with signatures is posting crap. Plus; many serious campaigns have people who check on a daily basis what the members are posting. Besides, many people I know here, are using the funds from their ad campaigns for donations, supporting projects etc (I for one, I'm doing just that). Cheers. PS: One more added. Please update. ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: marcotheminer on April 10, 2015, 03:28:24 PM crtl + F - marcotheminer
Yes! Not there :P Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 10, 2015, 03:37:14 PM Direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=87869;sa=ignprefs This will only work for a specific (yours) profile Dogie. :( You should change the id number with your forum id. My ID is 211419 and yours ID is 19459. Exactly. I only added the link to Profile. This is the same for every user. Try with this direct link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=;sa=ignprefs Thanks for this. Seems to be working. I've added it directly. No problem you are welcome, however I don't prefer to add users to ignore list because it is better (in my honest opinion) to read all the posts instead to don't read them. In this way we can "learn" more about bitcoin and other things (I know it is really annoying to read a troll write the same thing , and spread FUD in all the topics .... but who care?). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 03:41:38 PM No problem you are welcome, however I don't prefer to add users to ignore list because it is better (in my honest opinion) to read all the posts instead to don't read them. In this way we can "learn" more about bitcoin and other things (I know it is really annoying to read a troll write the same thing , and spread FUD in all the topics .... but who care?). It is. But in the last few months we've witnessed an enormous noise to signal increase, making technically impossible to read the information within a thread. For what it's worth, apart from the sockpuppets, I constantly unignore people from the list for a short time to revise my decision... ;) PS: List updated. This thread seems to be a sockpuppet magnet :P Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Alt Accounts Unlimited on April 10, 2015, 03:43:21 PM Presto! No more trolls! ;D What you are doing right now is called transference in the psychiatric trade; a defense mechanism allowing you to externalize your anger, macsga, to shift the blame from your own shoulders (where you will agree it correctly belongs, once you understand the mechanics of this pathology) onto others. Fooling yourself into believing your current [tragic] predicament is, somehow, someone else's fault, only postpones the day of reckoning. It's also pretty weak. :-\ He's not really sick. He's just doing it to up his post count for his signature campaign. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: EcuaMobi on April 10, 2015, 03:53:46 PM If only things were so simple. One single person cannot create a quality ignore list, he will always be biased and he can't get enough information, no matter who he is. People with paid signature are more likely to post low quality posts but that doesn't mean they will. There are both extremely high quality posts with signatures and garbage without any signature or reward of any kind. People can troll on one post and that doesn't mean they're always trolls and therefore should be ignored. They can be trolls and slowly grow up into top contributors of the community, or the other way around.
Because of this a list of this kind -if implemented at all- must be a hard work done by several trusted members of the forum. I suggested something like this before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999730.0) but even with these considerations it would be hard to maintain and it's very arguable whether it would help or not. Without a continuous team work I think it's not even worth considering it. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 03:58:30 PM If only things were so simple. One single person cannot create a quality ignore list, he will always be biased and he can't get enough information, no matter who he is. People with paid signature are more likely to post low quality posts but that doesn't mean they will. There are both extremely high quality posts with signatures and garbage without any signature or reward of any kind. People can troll on one post and that doesn't mean they're always trolls and therefore should be ignored. They can be trolls and slowly grow up into top contributors of the community, or the other way around. Because of this a list of this kind -if implemented at all- must be a hard work done by several trusted members of the forum. I suggested something like this before (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999730.0) but even with these considerations it would be hard to maintain and it's very arguable whether it would help or not. Without a continuous team work I think it's not even worth considering it. I totally agree on all points. I indulge you to work together and build something for everybody. I don't have anything against anyone here, I never provoked anyone, and certainly can change my decision about a person I accidentally added. If you feel like contributing, please do so. Two people are certainly better than one. We will eventually reach the "team" stage if we do it right. Thanks for your ideas. :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 10, 2015, 04:02:21 PM The whole "ad-sig" this has IMO become a major blight on this once useful forum (that is now mostly full of useless posts).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019792.0 Although there are some "ad-sig" posters that make decent posts the problem is that IMO that is about 1% at most (so the rest of us have to put up with a huge amount of rubbish to allow a small percentage of people who aren't posting rubbish "to make money"). It's actually hard to even understand why a forum dedicated to "open source software" even does this. Would you guys really support that bitcoin.org was filled with ads and that all Bitcoin clients would display ad sigs in them also? (of course not - you'd scream bloody murder if they did that). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 10, 2015, 04:05:20 PM No problem you are welcome, however I don't prefer to add users to ignore list because it is better (in my honest opinion) to read all the posts instead to don't read them. In this way we can "learn" more about bitcoin and other things (I know it is really annoying to read a troll write the same thing , and spread FUD in all the topics .... but who care?). It is. But in the last few months we've witnessed an enormous noise to signal increase, making technically impossible to read the information within a thread. For what it's worth, apart from the sockpuppets, I constantly unignore people from the list for a short time to revise my decision... ;) PS: List updated. This thread seems to be a sockpuppet magnet :P Yes (also) your opinion is valid, however I think also the personal list is a personal thing but maybe it could be possible to create a standard ignore list (of valid and obviously troll and sockpuppets). For example few users in your list are real sockpuppets but I am still quiet in read their posts. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: erwin45hacked on April 10, 2015, 04:09:12 PM The whole "ad-sig" this has IMO become a major blight on this once useful forum (that is now mostly full of useless posts). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019792.0 Although there are some "ad-sig" posters that make decent posts the problem is that IMO that is about 1% at most (so the rest of us have to put up with a huge amount of rubbish to allow a small percentage of people who aren't posting rubbish "to make money"). It's actually hard to even understand why a forum dedicated to "open source software" even does this. Would you guys really support that bitcoin.org was filled with ads and that all Bitcoin clients would display ad sigs in them also? (of course not - you'd scream bloody murder if they did that). IMO this thread is actually talking about user with rubbish posts, it doesnt mean that the rubbish post always comes from those with sig ads, it could be comes from those who are farming some account , but I myself are aware that most of the sig ads participants could be one the major rubbish poster If you were to discuss about rubbish post from the sig ads poster, it will be better if you open up a new thread with such title Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 10, 2015, 04:11:12 PM If you were to discuss about rubbish post from the sig ads poster, it will be better if you open up a new thread with such title It has been tried several times but unfortunately they get attacked by the ad-sig posters (which is why you have to self-moderate them) and by the mods themselves (yes - unfortunately most of the mods have ad-sigs). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 04:13:12 PM No problem you are welcome, however I don't prefer to add users to ignore list because it is better (in my honest opinion) to read all the posts instead to don't read them. In this way we can "learn" more about bitcoin and other things (I know it is really annoying to read a troll write the same thing , and spread FUD in all the topics .... but who care?). It is. But in the last few months we've witnessed an enormous noise to signal increase, making technically impossible to read the information within a thread. For what it's worth, apart from the sockpuppets, I constantly unignore people from the list for a short time to revise my decision... ;) PS: List updated. This thread seems to be a sockpuppet magnet :P Yes (also) your opinion is valid, however I think also the personal list is a personal thing but maybe it could be possible to create a standard ignore list (of valid and obviously troll and sockpuppets). For example few users in your list are real sockpuppets but I am still quiet in read their posts. As I previously stated, I'm open to suggestions. If you feel like removing one (or more) please state their nicknames. I will revise their posts and will remove them. @CIYAM: It seems to me your thesis has a point. But I'd categorize it in between "good" and "evil". You see, not everything in life is "black or white" - actually, most things are (more than) 50 shades of gray! ;D I find your estimation of "only 1% of the sig posts are worthy" a bit exaggerating. There are plenty of posts that certify your canon, but under no circumstances there are 99%. Last but not least, as I wrote on the OP, this is my personal ignore list that it's open to suggestions. If you feel like contributing in any way, please do so, you're very welcome. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: mashcom on April 10, 2015, 04:13:22 PM If you were to discuss about rubbish post from the sig ads poster, it will be better if you open up a new thread with such title It has been tried several times but unfortunately they get attacked by the ad-sig posters (which is why you have to self-moderate them) and by the mods themselves (yes - unfortunately most of the mods have ad-sigs). ... You point is invalid, if a forum team puts a signature ad then all your posts and fight are useless (IMHO). They should give to the community a better example and remove the sig ad (is this the thing that you want?). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 10, 2015, 04:18:57 PM Admittedly I can't back up my 99% claim (so it could be vastly exaggerated) but I would be very surprised if the percentage of useless posts was under 50% (am not sure how we can prove this though).
Personally I am opposed to people getting paid to post at all but maybe that is also because I don't get paid to code (yet put in generally a hundred hours per week of coding effort). And yes - I won't continue a discussion with an ad-sig poster any further (he is welcome to create an alt to join the other topic - but like most lazy ad-sig posters he won't bother). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Alt Accounts Unlimited on April 10, 2015, 04:48:01 PM ... IMO this thread is actually talking about user with rubbish posts, it doesnt mean that the rubbish post always comes from those with sig ads, it could be comes from those who are farming some account... You make account farming sound like it's a bad thing. I'm grazing this one even as we type, by adding my incisive commentary to this conversation. As soon as this account is old enough and properly fattened, I'm going to sell it for a fraction of a coin in the digital goods section of this very forum. ...so that others could continue to contribute, but with paid signatures. Cheers! Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: trout on April 10, 2015, 07:07:08 PM The whole "ad-sig" this has IMO become a major blight on this once useful forum (that is now mostly full of useless posts). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019792.0 did you accidentally lock that thread? I really don't understand why ad-sigs are allowed here. This is something very easy to ban, so if there are people spending any time at all moderating this forum, they could do it easily. It might be that historically tipping and micropayments was thought of as a nice feature of Bitcoin and ad-sigs were a way to foster that. But the result is clearly that the forum is drowned in crap. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 10, 2015, 07:11:16 PM did you accidentally lock that thread? No - what happened was that I was unable to "quote" any other post (gave an error) and then no-one was able to see any new posts via the Watchlist - so I locked it as there was simply no point to the topic. Interesting how that happened maybe. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Alt Accounts Unlimited on April 10, 2015, 07:38:12 PM ... I really don't understand why ad-sigs are allowed here. This is something very easy to ban, so if there are people spending any time at all moderating this forum, they could do it easily... If signature campaigns are banned, they'll simply be orchestrated outside of the forum. Since it would be wrong to ban a user for passionately supporting of his favorite ponzi / HYIP free of charge, the funding of signature campaigns will simply be take off-site. This is a bad thing; uninitiated users will assume the eyeraping signatures attached to every post aren't there because the poster is being paid. These innocents will think the ads are there because so many people genuinely love the dice sites / ponzis /HYIPs in their signatures. TL:DR: pretty much the logic behind allowing buying /selling forum accounts. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 10, 2015, 08:33:12 PM Admittedly I can't back up my 99% claim (so it could be vastly exaggerated) but I would be very surprised if the percentage of useless posts was under 50% (am not sure how we can prove this though). Personally I am opposed to people getting paid to post at all but maybe that is also because I don't get paid to code (yet put in generally a hundred hours per week of coding effort). And yes - I won't continue a discussion with an ad-sig poster any further (he is welcome to create an alt to join the other topic - but like most lazy ad-sig posters he won't bother). Let me get this straight: 1. You're so pissed at people with ad-sig campaigns that you would stop a discussion with them just because of that and not because of what they were talking about. 2. Unless that specific individual would make a sock puppet account (without a sig) your participation to his musings wouldn't be granted? What's all the hassle about? And why all the hostility? I'm truly sorry that I can't comply, please enlighten me. Title: Re: "THE IRONY" Post by: BlatchMajorBitstaff on April 11, 2015, 01:59:17 AM Admittedly I can't back up my 99% claim (so it could be vastly exaggerated) but I would be very surprised if the percentage of useless posts was under 50% (am not sure how we can prove this though). Personally I am opposed to people getting paid to post at all but maybe that is also because I don't get paid to code (yet put in generally a hundred hours per week of coding effort). And yes - I won't continue a discussion with an ad-sig poster any further (he is welcome to create an alt to join the other topic - but like most lazy ad-sig posters he won't bother). Let me get this straight: 1. You're so pissed at people with ad-sig campaigns that you would stop a discussion with them just because of that and not because of what they were talking about. 2. Unless that specific individual would make a sock puppet account (without a sig) your participation to his musings wouldn't be granted? What's all the hassle about? And why all the hostility? I'm truly sorry that I can't comply, please enlighten me. How does it feel to be on somebody else's list? Not cool amirite? Lest we forget the teachings of the Lord: "Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine" So...you know...stew on that for a bit. ::) Title: Re: "THE IRONY" Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 11, 2015, 02:28:07 AM Admittedly I can't back up my 99% claim (so it could be vastly exaggerated) but I would be very surprised if the percentage of useless posts was under 50% (am not sure how we can prove this though). Personally I am opposed to people getting paid to post at all but maybe that is also because I don't get paid to code (yet put in generally a hundred hours per week of coding effort). And yes - I won't continue a discussion with an ad-sig poster any further (he is welcome to create an alt to join the other topic - but like most lazy ad-sig posters he won't bother). Let me get this straight: 1. You're so pissed at people with ad-sig campaigns that you would stop a discussion with them just because of that and not because of what they were talking about. 2. Unless that specific individual would make a sock puppet account (without a sig) your participation to his musings wouldn't be granted? What's all the hassle about? And why all the hostility? I'm truly sorry that I can't comply, please enlighten me. How does it feel to be on somebody else's list? Not cool amirite? Lest we forget the teachings of the Lord: "Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine" So...you know...stew on that for a bit. ::) BlatchMajorBitstaff. RIP my friend :'( Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: nanobrain on April 11, 2015, 04:40:49 AM What an bad idea, Macsga.
For a start: mmitech (started out a bull, lost money, saw the light and told people they were being stupid and turned out to be correct ...BTC still going down). ShroomsKit (a number of people used the same account -- they even admitted this was why the posts sounded schizophrenic -- but essentially they all got fed up with losing money) fonzie (a day trader who made countless good calls about future BTC prices, including Ristos -- all hail Risto -- prediction thread, when he called 200 in mArch 2015, while the rest of you delusionals were talking about 10K) So, it does seem you are just creating a hit list of people who don't share your opinion. Of course, there are loads of trolls these days, but is it any wonder when the cultists are becoming more and more extreme in the face of mounting evidence BTC is going nowhere, supply far exceeds demand and the only hope is that "big money" comes in to manipulate the market before another huge 'correction'. The entire forum is now like an internet slow motion car crash, with people like yourself in the back seat insisting everything is fine while everyone else watches from the safety of the sidewalk. Do you think Theymos cares? The traffic is probably through the roof with all the rubber-neckers and he gets to make a few last dollars from BTC. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 11, 2015, 11:53:31 AM What an bad idea, Macsga. For a start: mmitech (started out a bull, lost money, saw the light and told people they were being stupid and turned out to be correct ...BTC still going down). ShroomsKit (a number of people used the same account -- they even admitted this was why the posts sounded schizophrenic -- but essentially they all got fed up with losing money) fonzie (a day trader who made countless good calls about future BTC prices, including Ristos -- all hail Risto -- prediction thread, when he called 200 in mArch 2015, while the rest of you delusionals were talking about 10K) So, it does seem you are just creating a hit list of people who don't share your opinion. Of course, there are loads of trolls these days, but is it any wonder when the cultists are becoming more and more extreme in the face of mounting evidence BTC is going nowhere, supply far exceeds demand and the only hope is that "big money" comes in to manipulate the market before another huge 'correction'. The entire forum is now like an internet slow motion car crash, with people like yourself in the back seat insisting everything is fine while everyone else watches from the safety of the sidewalk. Do you think Theymos cares? The traffic is probably through the roof with all the rubber-neckers and he gets to make a few last dollars from BTC. Hi Nanobrain. As I said, the list is an ongoing project; and I don't claim the infallible. I'm open to suggestions but let me explain why some people are there: mmitech: He was constantly insulting people with his posts and/or provoke them. That's why he's into the list. ShroomsKit: You typed it yourself. He was nothing but noise just like mah87, so he fell into the the >80% troll category. fonzie: If you check at his posts, he turned delirious and also insulted some people so he fell into category mmitech is. So you see, "not everyone who's not sharing my opinion is there". Like I wrote in the OP, the list is to keep MYSELF (and whoever wants to use it) free of the noise those people make. The forum is "open", so if you want to read everything you can do so if you don't login. Not to mention that you can just choose not to use it, or (like many people so far) add me to your ignore list as well. Consider that I offer this list only for people with "similar thinking". Not to "everybody". Cheers. PS: BlindMayorBitcorn is out of the list as well. Title: Re: "THE IRONY" Post by: macsga on April 11, 2015, 11:57:16 AM How does it feel to be on somebody else's list? Not cool amirite? Lest we forget the teachings of the Lord: "Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine" So...you know...stew on that for a bit. ::) If you read my posts regarding this list you should -by now- have understood that I don't give a rat's ass who has me on his ignore list. You should do the same... ;D PS:List updated. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1019752.0) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: coinableS on April 11, 2015, 08:06:53 PM Thank you for this public service MACSGA, it's a great alternative to the abolished newbie jail.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: julian071 on April 11, 2015, 08:14:38 PM Yes, thank you. Thank you for the list and thank you for putting up with the uhh 'responses' that maintaining this list generates.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 11, 2015, 10:10:58 PM Thanks guys. I just hope Theymos brings back the Newbie Jail. This thing is just a poor alternative; good thing is that it works. :)
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: BadBear on April 11, 2015, 10:21:40 PM Newbie jail won't help, they just make 50 accounts at a time and rotate them out, making new ones as the old ones are banned, and aging them as they use the already created ones. It would only be effective for the first few days. It affects legitimate users more than them.
What would really help is if people would stop responding to the trolling and giving them the attention they want, that's pretty much the sole reason they keep coming back. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 11, 2015, 10:50:09 PM Newbie jail won't help, they just make 50 accounts at a time and rotate them out, making new ones as the old ones are banned, and aging them as they use the already created ones. It would only be effective for the first few days. It affects legitimate users more than them. What would really help is if people would stop responding to the trolling and giving them the attention they want, that's pretty much the sole reason they keep coming back. Some of them are really funny. Do you ever question their motivation? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 11, 2015, 10:58:32 PM Newbie jail won't help, they just make 50 accounts at a time and rotate them out, making new ones as the old ones are banned, and aging them as they use the already created ones. It would only be effective for the first few days. It affects legitimate users more than them. What would really help is if people would stop responding to the trolling and giving them the attention they want, that's pretty much the sole reason they keep coming back. Some of them are really funny. Do you ever question their motivation? @Badbear: Unfortunately; you're right... :( Funny trolling is fine by me. I did it in the past by posting trains, CCMF, funny pics etc. The sad thing is that these guys tend to head it to a level that is mentally unacceptable! I mean direct accusations of drug usage, or homosexual & pedo comments on a public forum is simply out of the question for me. He (they) has about 50+ accounts so far promoting just that! This thing is getting really out of hand even for a dedicated and full-time working admin... :-\ Motivation? I can't say for sure. Is he after cheap coins? I've pointed out an older strategy that has been followed by elder members in the previous declining prices period on Wall Observer. Is he backed up by a whale? Is he a whale himself? Who knows? One thing's for sure. He has plenty of time in his hands and probably he has to receive for what he's doing. Or he's a mental. Or both... :-\ Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 09:47:34 AM ^NLC is most of your 'list' whether you know it or nawt. Oh; can you imagine...! I didn't know... thank you for this, it never crossed my mind. :P Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: erikalui on April 12, 2015, 10:22:44 AM I have no users in my ignore list but I choose to what post is worth reading and what post is not. I have seen newbies creating threads and themselves replying to that thread. The Wall Observer thread is the best example for the number of spam posts made that the OP has lost track of which posts to delete and which should be retained. I just get irritated with abusive and nonsense comments and report it and the worst thing is that, the comments aren't deleted. :-\
Regarding the 99% signature spammers: Count me as one of the 99% then as I prefer being part of the majority than the HIGHLY INTELLIGENT MINORITY MEMBERS. I am not related to NEWTON. I am a Software Engineer myself and even I code but yes, for money as my company pays me for the same. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 11:11:58 AM I am a Software Engineer myself and even I code but yes, for money as my company pays me for the same. And yet you seriously need to "sell your sig space" for some tiny fractions of BTC? Anyway - the whole point is not the "ad sigs" themselves but the "stupid pointless posts" that are being made in order to "earn that tiny amount of BTC". If you are not making stupid pointless posts then you should have nothing to be concerned about (and no-one is forcing you to ignore anyone). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 12, 2015, 11:17:23 AM I am a Software Engineer myself and even I code but yes, for money as my company pays me for the same. And yet you seriously need to "sell your sig space" for some tiny fractions of BTC? Anyway - the whole point is not the "ad sigs" themselves but the "stupid pointless posts" that are being made in order to "earn that tiny amount of BTC". I can agree with your point of view but remember that not all the users here are programmer or computer scientist. So it is normal that the "posts" are low of knowledge .... this is a forum when the people share their ideas and learn from the talent users. I can also agree with you for the quantity of posts but also the forum gain from this "spammy posts" through the visits and waves of the new users every day. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 11:54:22 AM .... this is a forum when the people share their ideas and learn from the talent users. Except once the "talent" gets so sick of reading all the useless posts that they leave in which case the likely result will be just newbies posting to newbies with each side only doing so to get paid for their ad sigs (with a total of zero knowledge being disseminated as neither those newbies asking questions or answering them actually care about the content of the posts but just that they get paid for posting). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: erikalui on April 12, 2015, 12:29:36 PM And yet you seriously need to "sell your sig space" for some tiny fractions of BTC? Anyway - the whole point is not the "ad sigs" themselves but the "stupid pointless posts" that are being made in order to "earn that tiny amount of BTC". If you are not making stupid pointless posts then you should have nothing to be concerned about (and no-one is forcing you to ignore anyone). I do it as a pass time and I am not obliged to answer anyone what I do and what I don't as being a part of a sig campaign isn't a crime. I don't earn my living being a part of a signature campaign as I have a full time job. Being a part of bitcoins is in itself not a good thing as it isn't a recognized currency and considered ILLEGAL. I would rather argue about how to make bitcoins worth talking about and LEGAL rather than Sig campaign spammers. But unfortunately, I don't find anyone interested in making bitcoins a LEGAL currency or working on it as some people are happy about using it for gambling, money laundering, selling illegal goods and hence they don't want bitcoins to be regulated. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 03:56:36 PM And yet you seriously need to "sell your sig space" for some tiny fractions of BTC? Anyway - the whole point is not the "ad sigs" themselves but the "stupid pointless posts" that are being made in order to "earn that tiny amount of BTC". If you are not making stupid pointless posts then you should have nothing to be concerned about (and no-one is forcing you to ignore anyone). I do it as a pass time and I am not obliged to answer anyone what I do and what I don't as being a part of a sig campaign isn't a crime. I don't earn my living being a part of a signature campaign as I have a full time job. Being a part of bitcoins is in itself not a good thing as it isn't a recognized currency and considered ILLEGAL. I would rather argue about how to make bitcoins worth talking about and LEGAL rather than Sig campaign spammers. But unfortunately, I don't find anyone interested in making bitcoins a LEGAL currency or working on it as some people are happy about using it for gambling, money laundering, selling illegal goods and hence they don't want bitcoins to be regulated. Errm, you do realize that there are only few countries who consider bitcoins as "illegal" right? And if you say that being a part of bitcoin is not good, then why the hell did you even involve yourself and joined this forum in the first place? Also, what do you mean when you say "legal"? Under some regulations and authority? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 04:05:18 PM I am a Software Engineer myself and even I code but yes, for money as my company pays me for the same. And yet you seriously need to "sell your sig space" for some tiny fractions of BTC? Anyway - the whole point is not the "ad sigs" themselves but the "stupid pointless posts" that are being made in order to "earn that tiny amount of BTC". If you are not making stupid pointless posts then you should have nothing to be concerned about (and no-one is forcing you to ignore anyone). Software Engineer here as well (among other things...). That "tiny fraction of BTC" is (in my case) 0.14 per month for 60 posts. I rarely count, cause I'm posting far more than 100 per month, but let me point out that I do have 3 miners at the moment that earn LESS than what the sig campaign is giving. So it's pretty significant in my case. Plus, that "tiny fraction" is used (in my case) strictly for donations & support to btc projects. The canon you're claiming is not without its exceptions. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 04:17:44 PM The canon you're claiming is not without its exceptions. I have never claimed that *all posts made by ad sig users are crap* but simply that *most are*. Although it can always be said to be subjective (in terms of what is "crap") I think that the majority of accounts being banned in the last six months are from ad sig posters which would support my claim (any mods who have the actual stats about which accounts have been banned in the last 6 months please correct me if I am wrong by posting the actual figures). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 04:39:55 PM The canon you're claiming is not without its exceptions. I have never claimed that *all posts made by ad sig users are crap* but simply that *most are*. Although it can always be said to be subjective (in terms of what is "crap") I think that the majority of accounts being banned in the last six months are from ad sig posters which would support my claim (any mods who have the actual stats about which accounts have been banned in the last 6 months please correct me if I am wrong by posting the actual figures). That would be an interesting datasheet to review. Nevertheless, I suspect you're right. Just for the story though, most "serious" ad campaigns check every participant about the "constructive" posts they make and in many cases they reject the members if they fall into the "crap" post category. Again, it's pretty subjective to be honest. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 04:54:58 PM The canon you're claiming is not without its exceptions. I have never claimed that *all posts made by ad sig users are crap* but simply that *most are*. Although it can always be said to be subjective (in terms of what is "crap") I think that the majority of accounts being banned in the last six months are from ad sig posters which would support my claim (any mods who have the actual stats about which accounts have been banned in the last 6 months please correct me if I am wrong by posting the actual figures). That would be an interesting datasheet to review. Nevertheless, I suspect you're right. Just for the story though, most "serious" ad campaigns check every participant about the "constructive" posts they make and in many cases they reject the members if they fall into the "crap" post category. Again, it's pretty subjective to be honest. Indeed. The quality of posts in this forum drastically dropped due to the "spamfest" done by the users who are enrolled in a signature campaign. I'll admit that I once spammed my way to those btc, but seeing that other users are affected by what I was doing, I just reply and follow a thread in which I think I can participate to. Also, there is no problem in the number of posts a user makes; it's the content that really matters after all. Was it helpful in the discussion? Did the comment shed light in some darkened points? Was it knowledgeable enough for other users? Subjective, and it should be like that. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: coinableS on April 12, 2015, 04:58:56 PM The canon you're claiming is not without its exceptions. I have never claimed that *all posts made by ad sig users are crap* but simply that *most are*. Although it can always be said to be subjective (in terms of what is "crap") I think that the majority of accounts being banned in the last six months are from ad sig posters which would support my claim (any mods who have the actual stats about which accounts have been banned in the last 6 months please correct me if I am wrong by posting the actual figures). I use sig campaigns because it is a great way to earn some extra bitcoin. I post responsibly and do not spam to get my post count up. In fact, I even remember helping you, CIYAM, when you had a question about blockchain.info API not long ago. Was my post less valuable because I had an ad in my sig? Sorry, I don't want it to seem like I'm attacking you, but I think moderation is the best approach, if people are caught spamming or abusing the sig campaign they should be banned. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 05:02:35 PM Sorry, I don't want it to seem like I'm attacking you, but I think moderation is the best approach, if people are caught spamming or abusing the sig campaign they should be banned. I don't take that personally and your help was appreciated (I believe I did thank you for that) so I haven't just "ignored all ad sig posters" (as sometimes I feel l'd like to). If it was policed better then for sure the overall quality of posts would be better but this seems to be basically "too hard" as there are simply not enough mods and too much crap posts. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 12, 2015, 05:03:14 PM .... this is a forum when the people share their ideas and learn from the talent users. Except once the "talent" gets so sick of reading all the useless posts that they leave in which case the likely result will be just newbies posting to newbies with each side only doing so to get paid for their ad sigs (with a total of zero knowledge being disseminated as neither those newbies asking questions or answering them actually care about the content of the posts but just that they get paid for posting). So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 05:08:28 PM So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 05:09:43 PM .... this is a forum when the people share their ideas and learn from the talent users. Except once the "talent" gets so sick of reading all the useless posts that they leave in which case the likely result will be just newbies posting to newbies with each side only doing so to get paid for their ad sigs (with a total of zero knowledge being disseminated as neither those newbies asking questions or answering them actually care about the content of the posts but just that they get paid for posting). So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). I agree on the "freedom of speech" that you're reiterating in here, but sometimes crap posts overshadow posts that are meaningful and relevant. Sure we can pass a day with spams, crap posts and whatnot, but sometimes it is too much for the forum and for the users too. It's hard to participate in a discussion wherein a user will randomly comment without simply reading the whole thread. It isn't going to bear any fruitful discussions, but I sure know that spamming will bear fruitful of bans and ignores. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 12, 2015, 05:11:57 PM So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Ok, so the sig ad generate crap posts. Is this your thought? Then the real problem are the various signature ad campaign and the crap posts are generated by users that don't know what write in their 'posts'. This, I think is the problem... but I don't know how to resolve it at all. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 05:28:16 PM So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Ok, so the sig ad generate crap posts. Is this your thought? Then the real problem are the various signature ad campaign and the crap posts are generated by users that don't know what write in their 'posts'. This, I think is the problem... but I don't know how to resolve it at all. The signature campaigns aren't the problem; the users enrolled in such campaigns are. I mean, come on, you don't want to spend your time reading crap posts and other spammy content. You came here to view relevant discussions that may be of help to bitcoin and to the community as well. I think the best solution--if people still want the signature campaigns to be present--is to limit the number of users entering these campaigns and set up some standards before accepting users and considering them "eligible" in joining one. Doing so may decrease users who most of the time posts crap and other spammy content just to boost their post count. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: erikalui on April 12, 2015, 05:58:01 PM Errm, you do realize that there are only few countries who consider bitcoins as "illegal" right? And if you say that being a part of bitcoin is not good, then why the hell did you even involve yourself and joined this forum in the first place? Also, what do you mean when you say "legal"? Under some regulations and authority? What's the need to be so rude? I dint reply to you so if you don't agree, just IGNORE my comment. I know that Bitcoin is not legal in my country and sooner the time will come when I will stop using it. I am surprised that sometime back I had sent you a PM explaining you about DDos attack when you had asked me about the same and this is the reply I get that "why the hell have I joined this forum." Thanks and I feel honored now. Anyways, this post was about ignoring newbies and I need to stick to that only. I hope that newbie jail is implemented soon as they not only spam the forum but also misuse the trust rating. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 06:03:45 PM Errm, you do realize that there are only few countries who consider bitcoins as "illegal" right? And if you say that being a part of bitcoin is not good, then why the hell did you even involve yourself and joined this forum in the first place? Also, what do you mean when you say "legal"? Under some regulations and authority? What's the need to be so rude? I dint reply to you so if you don't agree, just IGNORE my comment. I know that Bitcoin is not legal in my country and sooner the time will come when I will stop using it. I am surprised that sometime back I had sent you a PM explaining you about DDos attack when you had asked me about the same and this is the reply I get that "why the hell have I joined this forum." Thanks and I feel honored now. Anyways, this post was about ignoring newbies and I need to stick to that only. I hope that newbie jail is implemented soon as they not only spam the forum but also misuse the trust rating. Uhhm, I didn't want to be rude in any way. If you got offended by that comment, my deepest apologies. I'm just stating my point, but I guess it offended you so I'm sorry about that. :( Going back to the topic, sometimes even users with higher ranks (especially those who are enrolled in signature campaigns) spams too. I can see some users here that are in the Member status up that spams a lot. Boosting post count is one of the reasons I can think of. Other than that, I don't know. Also, newbies--as you've mentioned--tend to post the same thread over and over again, though we couldn't blame them, assuming that they knew nothing about the forum and where the topics are in the first place. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: franckuestein on April 12, 2015, 06:17:30 PM Thanks for the list @macsga.
I'm going to start checking that profiles to decide if it's appropriate (or not) adding them to my bitcointalk ignore list. They're just sockpuppets accounts or something else? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 12, 2015, 06:18:31 PM So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Ok, so the sig ad generate crap posts. Is this your thought? Then the real problem are the various signature ad campaign and the crap posts are generated by users that don't know what write in their 'posts'. This, I think is the problem... but I don't know how to resolve it at all. The signature campaigns aren't the problem; the users enrolled in such campaigns are. I mean, come on, you don't want to spend your time reading crap posts and other spammy content. You came here to view relevant discussions that may be of help to bitcoin and to the community as well. I think the best solution--if people still want the signature campaigns to be present--is to limit the number of users entering these campaigns and set up some standards before accepting users and considering them "eligible" in joining one. Doing so may decrease users who most of the time posts crap and other spammy content just to boost their post count. This, it's a nice and (maybe) real solution but all the manager/maintainers of the signature campaign should cooperate in the selection of the valid users. I have suggested to pay all the quality posts and not the number posts, but it is obviously a lot of work and it will be not a good promotion to those services related to bitcoin. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 06:23:39 PM This, it's a nice and (maybe) real solution but all the manager/maintainers of the signature campaign should cooperate in the selection of the valid users. I have suggested to pay all the quality posts and not the number posts, but it is obviously a lot of work and it will be not a good promotion to those services related to bitcoin. Hmm... so the managers of the ad sig campaigns should "vet the posts". I doubt that they really care as from their economic perspective all that matters is the number of posts that have their sig. You have heard the term "any publicity is good publicity" I presume? (they are happy enough to force that work upon the mods as there is *zero* penalty for them) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 06:26:50 PM So what is your solution for all who are wearing a signature ad? Are you using the grue scrypt (through a browser extension)? Again it's a forum for all the type of people, not only for who has some knowledge (or maybe 'high knowledge in bitcoin'). The script won't stop the topics being bumped or hide the crap content (just hides the sigs) - how many times do I have to repeat it is the "crap content" not the "actual ad sig" that is the problem. I'd happily see my own sig go and ban sigs altogether from the forum. Ok, so the sig ad generate crap posts. Is this your thought? Then the real problem are the various signature ad campaign and the crap posts are generated by users that don't know what write in their 'posts'. This, I think is the problem... but I don't know how to resolve it at all. The signature campaigns aren't the problem; the users enrolled in such campaigns are. I mean, come on, you don't want to spend your time reading crap posts and other spammy content. You came here to view relevant discussions that may be of help to bitcoin and to the community as well. I think the best solution--if people still want the signature campaigns to be present--is to limit the number of users entering these campaigns and set up some standards before accepting users and considering them "eligible" in joining one. Doing so may decrease users who most of the time posts crap and other spammy content just to boost their post count. This, it's a nice and (maybe) real solution but all the manager/maintainers of the signature campaign should cooperate in the selection of the valid users. I have suggested to pay all the quality posts and not the number posts, but it is obviously a lot of work and it will be not a good promotion to those services related to bitcoin. Well if you really want to filter the crap apart from the valuable ones, you really need to do some heavy work to achieve positive results. Campaign managers do a lot of work, but filtering and setting some standards before accepting users is a good way for them to save money, too. so why not add an extra effort in managing the said campaigns? Setting limits to the number of users who are eligible to join the campaign is just one way of reducing the number of crappy posts in this forum. If this is done by campaign managers, we could still see the valuable topics that should be discussed regarding bitcoins. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 12, 2015, 06:38:19 PM This, it's a nice and (maybe) real solution but all the manager/maintainers of the signature campaign should cooperate in the selection of the valid users. I have suggested to pay all the quality posts and not the number posts, but it is obviously a lot of work and it will be not a good promotion to those services related to bitcoin. Hmm... so the managers of the ad sig campaigns should "vet the posts". I doubt that they really care as from their economic perspective all that matters is the number of posts that have their sig. You have heard the term "any publicity is good publicity" I presume? (they are happy enough to force that work upon the mods as there is *zero* penalty for them) Yes I have heard that term and I agree with you, the users are posting crap posts (and they are victim of themselves) and they are banned from the forum but this is not the real solution to the problem. Well if you really want to filter the crap apart from the valuable ones, you really need to do some heavy work to achieve positive results. Campaign managers do a lot of work, but filtering and setting some standards before accepting users is a good way for them to save money, too. so why not add an extra effort in managing the said campaigns? Setting limits to the number of users who are eligible to join the campaign is just one way of reducing the number of crappy posts in this forum. If this is done by campaign managers, we could still see the valuable topics that should be discussed regarding bitcoins. You should open a thread in the service discussion and ask if the various sig. campaign manager will help you in that cause but as CIYAM written in his post "any publicity is good publicity". I predict a new spam wave with the introduction of the "avatar campaign" maybe the unique valid solution is the "ignore function". Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: CIYAM on April 12, 2015, 06:41:40 PM I predict a new spam wave with the introduction of the "avatar campaign" maybe the unique valid solution is the "ignore function". Unfortunately the "ignore" function is rather poor as you still see in your watchlist (or new replies to your post) the reply even if when you click on it the new post shows "this user is currently ignored" (i.e. it is like a known salesperson calling your phone where you can see that they are someone you don't want to talk to but you still had to be annoyed by your phone ringing in the first place). I have prototyped with my own forum how to completely get rid of all ignored posters posts (so they don't even register at all) - hopefully maybe the new forum will do a better job of this (technically it isn't that hard to do). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dothebeats on April 12, 2015, 06:44:04 PM Well if you really want to filter the crap apart from the valuable ones, you really need to do some heavy work to achieve positive results. Campaign managers do a lot of work, but filtering and setting some standards before accepting users is a good way for them to save money, too. so why not add an extra effort in managing the said campaigns? Setting limits to the number of users who are eligible to join the campaign is just one way of reducing the number of crappy posts in this forum. If this is done by campaign managers, we could still see the valuable topics that should be discussed regarding bitcoins. You should open a thread in the service discussion and ask if the various sig. campaign manager will help you in that cause but as CIYAM written in his post "any publicity is good publicity". I predict a new spam wave with the introduction of the "avatar campaign" maybe the unique valid solution is the "ignore function". I would look into it, seeing that avatar campaign might soon take place in this forum. Advertisements such as these from services should really select those who will enter the campaign accordingly. Thanks for the reply. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Muhammed Zakir on April 12, 2015, 06:46:01 PM =snip= Anyways, this post was about ignoring newbies and I need to stick to that only. I hope that newbie jail is implemented soon as they not only spam the forum but also misuse the trust rating. Newbie Jail won't come back. It is useless and make "real" contributors to turn away from forum. Spammers will spam. AFAIK you only need to wait some hours to get out of the Jail and there won't be any limit thereafter. But the current time-limit is prettier than Newbie Jail as time-limit is there. It will help to decrease spam in a long run but Newbie Jail will only decrease spam at first, after they are out, they are free to make as many posts as they want without any time limit. Well if you really want to filter the crap apart from the valuable ones, you really need to do some heavy work to achieve positive results. Campaign managers do a lot of work, but filtering and setting some standards before accepting users is a good way for them to save money, too. so why not add an extra effort in managing the said campaigns? Setting limits to the number of users who are eligible to join the campaign is just one way of reducing the number of crappy posts in this forum. If this is done by campaign managers, we could still see the valuable topics that should be discussed regarding bitcoins. Most of them won't. Read CIYAM's post. In simple sentence, more posts = more advertisement. Crap posts will be deleted, anyway and they don't want to pay for it but they may get some view before the crap gets deleted. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 07:13:23 PM Thanks for the list @macsga. I'm going to start checking that profiles to decide if it's appropriate (or not) adding them to my bitcointalk ignore list. They're just sockpuppets accounts or something else? Mostly sockpuppets and some offensive users there. It's been questioned if they will remain, or if the list will get bigger. Under no circumstances this is a list that will contain only "bears" or "bulls". This list is an effort to contain the spam & insultive posts of certain individuals and I decided to share it with you because it was a common thought into the Wall Observer thread (where is the place they tend to abuse more). Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: goldkey0070 on April 12, 2015, 08:42:38 PM what is a troll??
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 09:18:05 PM what is a troll?? troll One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: goldkey0070 on April 12, 2015, 09:59:00 PM good word for that lol...so how does bitcointalk get rid of bots making stupid messages... i that that was a troll
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: spooderman on April 12, 2015, 10:22:53 PM the trolls on this forums are doing my head.
please tell me stolfi is in there? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 10:32:20 PM the trolls on this forums are doing my head. please tell me stolfi is in there? No; despite his erroneous and misleading posts, I find him amusing and sometimes (when I have the time) I like responding to him. He's not much of a troll really, I think that in order to prove his points he makes a great effort trying to reason the unreasonable. This alone amuses me... If you want though, you can easily add him to your list... Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: gentlemand on April 12, 2015, 10:33:39 PM the trolls on this forums are doing my head. please tell me stolfi is in there? He's not directly abusive or overwhelmingly pointless. Quite a few people do engage with him, though I've no idea why. I have had him on ignore for an awful long time though and once I realised he was on Reddit I specifically downloaded an extension purely to ignore him. Not A List candidate in the same way as most of those names though. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: goldkey0070 on April 12, 2015, 10:42:09 PM extensions for the Forum moderation ???
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 10:43:54 PM the trolls on this forums are doing my head. please tell me stolfi is in there? He's not directly abusive or overwhelmingly pointless. Quite a few people do engage with him, though I've no idea why. I have had him on ignore for an awful long time though and once I realised he was on Reddit I specifically downloaded an extension purely to ignore him. Not A List candidate in the same way as most of those names though. If you think and try to reason why all these people come in here trying to disrupt a good idea for a better economic future; there's only one answer coming in mind. That is to gain a piece of the pie. What way? By trying to persuade others that their "solution" is not viable, it's not worth it, it's a Ponzi etc etc. Being in academia I like to think that Stolfi doesn't fall into that category though. I've met many professors that are naive enough to believe that THEIR opinion is the only one which matters, no matter what you will do to convince them otherwise. That's not the way Scientists work. We tend to throw an idea and hope for a sane discussion that either will prove us right or wrong. It works in Physics, Chemistry, Biology even IT. It doesn't seem to be working for Economic Science though. Not to mention I don't count Economics as a "science" at all... ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: gentlemand on April 12, 2015, 10:48:44 PM If you think and try to reason why all these people come in here trying to disrupt a good idea for a better economic future; there's only one answer coming in mind. That is to gain a piece of the pie. What way? By trying to persuade others that their "solution" is not viable, it's not worth it, it's a Ponzi etc etc. Being in academia I like to think that Stolfi doesn't fall into that category though. I've met many professors that are naive enough to believe that THEIR opinion is the only one which matters, no matter what you will do to convince them otherwise. That's not the way Scientists work. We tend to throw an idea and hope for a sane discussion that either will prove us right or wrong. It works in Physics, Chemistry, Biology even IT. It doesn't seem to be working for Economic Science though. Not to mention I don't count Economics a "science" at all... ;D Even though I don't read a single word he writes, he does make me wonder. He's an important fella in his field and surely has better things to do than write vast tracts on something he's convinced is out to get us all. Where does the time come from? Ah well. I'm sure he's a delight to sit around a campfire with on Ipanema beach as long as you steer the subject away from that area. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 12, 2015, 11:01:05 PM If you think and try to reason why all these people come in here trying to disrupt a good idea for a better economic future; there's only one answer coming in mind. That is to gain a piece of the pie. What way? By trying to persuade others that their "solution" is not viable, it's not worth it, it's a Ponzi etc etc. Being in academia I like to think that Stolfi doesn't fall into that category though. I've met many professors that are naive enough to believe that THEIR opinion is the only one which matters, no matter what you will do to convince them otherwise. That's not the way Scientists work. We tend to throw an idea and hope for a sane discussion that either will prove us right or wrong. It works in Physics, Chemistry, Biology even IT. It doesn't seem to be working for Economic Science though. Not to mention I don't count Economics a "science" at all... ;D Even though I don't read a single word he writes, he does make me wonder. He's an important fella in his field and surely has better things to do than write vast tracts on something he's convinced is out to get us all. Where does the time come from? Ah well. I'm sure he's a delight to sit around a campfire with on Ipanema beach as long as you steer the subject away from that area. He's not the only one you know. Even Yianis (Varoufakis) has the same opinion about BTC. He's convinced that due to its non-inflational properties it will never be able to be what's destined to. You know; maybe they're right; but this project, if you look deeper it incorporates more than one science and -up until now- it proves them wrong! What'll be? I don't know. Neither they do. We humans are rather peculiar with change. We tend to oppose to it; we don't like new stuff messing around with our lives and disrupting our future to a way that (in this case) is unimaginable and probably totally unpredictable. That's the problem. Besides, both Stolfi & Varoufakis are Economists (OK Yianis is first a Mathematician and he has my respect just for that); and they may don't want BTC to succeed; because this will render their job obsolete... ;) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Muhammed Zakir on April 13, 2015, 06:45:15 AM =snip= Besides, both Stolfi & Varoufakis are Economists (OK Yianis is first a Mathematician and he has my respect just for that); and they may don't want BTC to succeed; because this will render their job obsolete... ;) You are talking about JorgeStolfi, right? His signature: "Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success." I think he is interested in Bitcoin's success. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: spooderman on April 13, 2015, 09:23:18 AM I think he spends far too much time on this forum to be successful in any other field by this point.
I had a few debates with him after which I realised I was talking to a brick wall. But I guess that was in the wall observer thread..... Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 13, 2015, 10:52:17 AM =snip= Besides, both Stolfi & Varoufakis are Economists (OK Yianis is first a Mathematician and he has my respect just for that); and they may don't want BTC to succeed; because this will render their job obsolete... ;) You are talking about JorgeStolfi, right? His signature: "Academic interest in bitcoin only. Not owner, not trader, very skeptical of its longterm success." I think he is interested in Bitcoin's success. Yes. I was referring to Jorge. I think too he's interested in BTC success (or failure for that matter). Not sure I can explain though, why he spends so much time in here. @Spooderman: I have the same feeling about him; I explained on the above post why I think this is happening. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: redsn0w on April 13, 2015, 11:27:53 AM I predict a new spam wave with the introduction of the "avatar campaign" maybe the unique valid solution is the "ignore function". Unfortunately the "ignore" function is rather poor as you still see in your watchlist (or new replies to your post) the reply even if when you click on it the new post shows "this user is currently ignored" (i.e. it is like a known salesperson calling your phone where you can see that they are someone you don't want to talk to but you still had to be annoyed by your phone ringing in the first place). I have prototyped with my own forum how to completely get rid of all ignored posters posts (so they don't even register at all) - hopefully maybe the new forum will do a better job of this (technically it isn't that hard to do). Have you tried to propose your ignore function to theymos or contact the slickage team (for the new forum software version)? I agree with you, here the ignore function doesn't work properly so it cannot be called "ignore function". Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 13, 2015, 01:53:51 PM A nice list, but some of them like Lambchop are trolling from a new sock every week, so the list will need frequent updates. As I wrote to him yesterday; "it takes 50 seconds to create a new account and only 5 seconds to add it to the list" ;) I don't mind revising the list several times a day. Until he decides it's not worth it following the same tactics anymore. :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: spooderman on April 13, 2015, 02:46:04 PM so if 10 people have to add him to their lists, or take 5 seconds retrieving your updated list, then it's a draw, and if more people do, he wins?
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Slark on April 13, 2015, 04:36:36 PM so if 10 people have to add him to their lists, or take 5 seconds retrieving your updated list, then it's a draw, and if more people do, he wins? Eventually if he will notice that less and less people are willing to talk and discuss, and how easy it is for people to ignore him he will give up on this I think. People like him do it for the lols so if no one will notice him it will be over.Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 14, 2015, 12:03:16 AM ^And what's worse is that he's continuously right. That must really get the mods' goat It's not that hard to update The List; all the new sockpuppets are now added (left only 1 out just for the lolz, can you notice which is it?). ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 14, 2015, 01:22:47 AM Just for the story:
Topic: "THE LIST" (Read 1876 times) Created: 2015-04-10, 17:45:34 It doesn't seem like someone owns HALF the country here... ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on April 14, 2015, 01:23:48 AM Just for the story: Topic: "THE LIST" (Read 1876 times) Created: 2015-04-10, 17:45:34 It doesn't seem like someone owns HALF the country here... ;D Sig spammer :P In all seriousness >:( This is really beginning to feel like harrassment. Having your own little *I don't wanna read it* shit list is one thing, but spamming it publically might be going too far. Actual well-meaning members could get hurt. I urge you to reconsider and lock this thread Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: D05GTO on April 14, 2015, 10:04:23 PM Well meaning members could get hurt.. what a joke. No one is missing anything from those troll accounts. Sometimes I'm curious and unhide one.. then I go wtf same thing over and over and over.
Let's compare lists... I just put some in there that really have no added benefit to any discussion ever. kwukduck ElectricMucus Cconvert2G36 Wandererfromthenorth tarmi MatTheCat octaft fonzie wpalczynski JorgeStolfi exocytosis sporket screengrid criptix Anotherthing Silverspoon NotLambchop Mervyn_Pumpkinhead fonsie Ask Ken About Love YourMother TrollinU Dump3er TankHankerous professor bitcorn riiiiising fat buddah homo homini lupus Warren Buffett Warren Buffert NotHatinJustTrollin Arpeggio thebityoda Second-base bitards ChildPr0nzUsers wolkirK NoIgnore4u JihadCoinz weloveu MomLambchop NotLambchops-GayLover whenmoon deadcatagain marshallplan PunkAssBiotch AnotherAccount? NewbieJailIsBadMmkay? They_mos4real hugedumped Sub200 cattery VergeltungsLamb gonedoggo Etherrules trelelel IDGAF1 newbiejailnoplz DidSomebodySayChildPr0nz? ChinaMiners lokijuyhtgrryryj SilenceOfTheLamb NotBuyingYourBags ddcorn Boooooooooring BlatchMajorBitstaff btcponzieeg bitcointoda0 ButVentureCapitaaaaaaal not10kyet TulipMania Troll DecentralizeAllThePosts!! Shatoshi investmentsd00d DoYouEvenVCMoneyBro? PayPerAccount(PPA)FTW Shill1 Nahda bullbearhh sockeverywhere093 LEOCOIN_CEO otherdarer DoxThatTroll widd Everclear Funeral Palor jhgfdfghjgf RWeItc Gentle Ben Grizzliest Adams Blood Of The Lamb addmetoTHELIST Grizzly Adams has a posse Ababab2 NewPoverty HemostatX Surrender, Dorothy!!1! Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Morecoin Freeman on April 15, 2015, 01:19:54 AM User kwukduck should definitely be on there too.
And my list doesn't include BlindMayorBitcorn. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 15, 2015, 05:26:00 AM User kwukduck should definitely be on there too. And my list doesn't include BlindMayorBitcorn. The Mayor has been quoting the trolls all the time (not to mention he was trolling more than them). He was rude, insulting and provocative to me and others. He had been warned and kept going. That's why he's on this list. I have the "3 out of 3" rule to add a person in there. If he/she is keeping at it, he/she qualifies. @D05GTO: Your list silences many "bears" which is not what this list has intention to do. For instance Dump3er, tarmi and others are in there. I'm checking now for missing parts from my list, but definitely you should revise IMHO. Thanks for the help :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: cbeast on April 16, 2015, 12:09:33 AM My list has hundreds. It includes mostly newbies that posted stupid things with condescending tones. It shows that they didn't spend 5 seconds researching anything.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: cbeast on April 16, 2015, 12:31:12 AM ....... I have different standards than op.Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: cbeast on April 16, 2015, 03:26:30 AM I ignore stupid people because they waste our time. I rarely indulge trolls because they are not cutting me in to their shilling.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 16, 2015, 11:03:08 AM IMHO, it's far more complex to maintain a "generic" list than a personal one. That requires the ability to keep up with the "major" dogma which -in essence- doesn't exist. Newbie ban on the other hand, is not always a good strategy since you never know which is which (maybe a paid troll is after putting all those newbie accounts to ignore, because of his actions and force the community to slow down).
I try to maintain a strategy that follows the 3 out of 3 trolling posts (except it's 100% certain that the newbie is a sockpuppet). So far it works; and I have plenty of time updating it several times a day... :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: cbeast on April 16, 2015, 11:28:05 AM Sounds like you should be an administrator.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Morecoin Freeman on April 16, 2015, 01:07:38 PM macsga's ignore list should become the official bitcointalk ban list
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fatman3001 on April 18, 2015, 06:14:57 PM is kenr12 NLC?
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 18, 2015, 06:23:40 PM is kenr12 NLC? Yep; he was added. Please update your list. Thanks for the heads up!! 8) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fatman3001 on April 18, 2015, 06:50:25 PM is kenr12 NLC? Yep; he was added. Please update your list. Thanks for the heads up!! 8) Ok, I was unsure. He changed syntax and attack mode a bit so I checked out his reply as well. I think we can call it confirmed. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 18, 2015, 09:05:32 PM I've decided to remove BlindMayorBitcorn from The List once more, since he followed my 3 out of 3 posts rule (3 useful - not trolling - not offending posts so far). Please update your list if you feel like it's a nice decision or don't if you like him in there. I didn't want to TBH since he was provocative at me, but rules are rules and ought to be obeyed.
Cheers. Edit: It's been a pretty busy night for sockpuppets. I've updated The List with the following users: Quote China! Ergodan Paranoia-meter dfsdfs SlowNinja indicabob Foilking Please update your Lists! Cheers Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Morecoin Freeman on April 24, 2015, 10:17:26 PM Another one to add to the list:
Dolores Haze Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 24, 2015, 10:40:05 PM Another one to add to the list: Dolores Haze Thanks, just added. Please update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on April 25, 2015, 04:51:28 AM Excellent, keep updating the list. I know that DannyHamilton keeps a bigger one too (many signature participants).
We need similar lists for people who got kicked/banned from 1 signature campaign as well. macsga's ignore list should become the official bitcointalk ban list That's actually not a bad idea.Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: forlackofabettername on April 26, 2015, 10:10:43 AM Op, lol. Basically you ban everyone who's not bullish on bitcoin. Fail.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 26, 2015, 06:57:22 PM Op, lol. Basically you ban everyone who's not bullish on bitcoin. Fail. Actually, I don't. This has been answered before on this thread (2nd & 3rd page). Please take the time to read my previous answers on the same allegation I received from other members why this is NOT a bear list. If you (after reading my answers) have the same idea; what can I say? It's a free world. Using the list is not mandatory; you may as well ignore it... ;) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 28, 2015, 06:29:41 PM FYI: Two more sockpuppets have been added to the list. Please update accordingly.
Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Morecoin Freeman on April 28, 2015, 08:51:25 PM Another one to add is user: cEI14b
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 28, 2015, 09:06:27 PM Another one to add is user: cEI14b Added. Thanks for your contribution, I can't monitor the whole forum (nor I have the time to do it). :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on April 29, 2015, 01:06:34 PM Added one more: "closed today". Please update your lists.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: goldkey0070 on April 30, 2015, 05:11:01 AM I own another forum and i ban them for life but only for posting! it basically wastes the bots time on the time trying to post and i'm sure it aggravates the owner of the bot LOL...
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 02, 2015, 01:58:27 PM Three more sockpuppets were added.
Quote s_barhotski Count Chocula hndgy If you notice any others that I accidentally missed please post their nicknames here and I will add them as well. Please update your ignore lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 05, 2015, 08:52:39 PM Once more the list is updated today, adding 5 more new sockpuppets. Please update accordingly and feel free to contribute if you see something missing.
Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on May 08, 2015, 04:22:25 PM thx for sharing list. but please make list alphabetical order for find user, last list :
Code: ababab1 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 08, 2015, 07:10:58 PM thx for sharing list. but please make list alphabetical order for find user, last list : Code: ababab1 Thanks. That's a great idea, but I usually update this from my phone. So it's a bit difficult to sort in alphabetic order every time while I'm on the road. I will use your shorting list though. BTW: More have been added. Please update your lists. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-08: Quote rmbku oWLrAcEz fakecovers ricmi Gnppnx niiisj stoick UnholyTrinity Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Morecoin Freeman on May 08, 2015, 07:58:59 PM Thank you, keep em coming! Sockpuppets everywhere.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Bizmark13 on May 09, 2015, 09:42:52 AM It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 09, 2015, 09:47:17 AM It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable. And it's not nice -- that's worse :( Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: oser41eric on May 09, 2015, 09:57:41 AM It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable. And it's not nice -- that's worse :( Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 09, 2015, 10:06:24 AM It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable. "Too many people", gratifies a personal opinion (in this case yours) against my initiative to post my ignore list in the public. Yes, the specific risk is there but it's an acceptable one; it's a common phrase: "don't quote the trolls". Other users? I don't follow. You mean provocable ones? Someone would've say the same for everybody with an ad campaign undersigned his posts. The point is that (and let me bold it, because it's the 3rd or 4th time I'm writing it): THE LIST IS NOT MANDATORY You can choose to use it or not, you can choose to ignore the whole pack, or not. You can even choose NOT to be here in the first place. The reason I posted it is written in the OP and I'd indulge you to re-read it. Maybe you will find a noble cause there, like so many others did, instead of posting your (IMHO) prejudiced opinion "just to boost your post count" like you said. Besides, you can always say that I began as a troll here (I have been accused of that too). You may as well be right. Remember: The worst enemies of smoking are the ones who once were smokers. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 09, 2015, 10:14:50 AM It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable. And it's not nice -- that's worse :( Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread. The worse part is when you try reading a long thread to get some info about the price and all you get is irritating pictures of any kind of abnormality the human brain has ever came up with, instead of the info you want. This noise to signal ratio since NLC (don't fool ourselves, the list is all about him and his sockpuppets) came along has been boosted to enormous levels. Like I said, you can accuse me of anything and I will gladly take it (meanie, no sense of humor, etc). You can also help make this list better. You can also read my replies in this thread, many of your questions might as well been answered. Also remember: This list wouldn't be here if it wasn't necessary. But that means you wouldn't be able to post here as well... think about it. ;) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Bizmark13 on May 09, 2015, 10:59:00 AM "Too many people", gratifies a personal opinion (in this case yours) against my initiative to post my ignore list in the public. Yes, the specific risk is there but it's an acceptable one; it's a common phrase: "don't quote the trolls". Other users? I don't follow. You mean provocable ones? Someone would've say the same for everybody with an ad campaign undersigned his posts. The point is that (and let me bold it, because it's the 3rd or 4th time I'm writing it): To clarify, I was thinking along the lines of a situation where someone might post a question and some of the replies are from ignored users (possibly mixed in with non-ignored users). If I wanted to answer the thread starter's question and I had a large ignore list, I could either choose to submit an answer with the risk that others might think that I am parroting what has already been said (which I'm sure most people wouldn't think too positively of) or read the ignored users' posts which kind of defeats the purpose of having an ignore list. It's not a huge problem if most of my list consisted of trolls since they're not likely to contribute intelligently to discussions but a much more comprehensive list that encompasses a wider variety of users could eventually cause problems. I don't recognize any of the names in your list and it isn't very long so it's probably fine. DannyHamilton's list goes a bit too far in my opinion since it includes posters like redsn0w, bryant.coleman, and Muhammid Zakir who tend to make highly constructive posts and are an integral part of this community. Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread. It's pretty common, yeah. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: bitcoin_bagholder on May 09, 2015, 11:06:21 AM It doesn't seem like a very good idea to ignore too many people IMHO. You would run the risk of repeating something that someone else posted in the same thread which is generally frowned upon. Other users would have no way of knowing whether you did it to boost your post count or if you genuinely couldn't see their (the ignored user's) response since ignore lists aren't publicly viewable. And it's not nice -- that's worse :( Only meanies with no sense of humor ignore people, I feel you Blind. Biz you say how you shouldn't have to many people ignored because you run the risk of repeating something someone else has already said! If you look at every thread on this forum and I mean every thread, you will see people must do a lot of frowning because it is all repeated sometimes with different wording but still repeating like a parrot on every thread. The "parroting" is mostly done by those with a signature ad. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 09, 2015, 02:13:27 PM To clarify, I was thinking along the lines of a situation where someone might post a question and some of the replies are from ignored users (possibly mixed in with non-ignored users). If I wanted to answer the thread starter's question and I had a large ignore list, I could either choose to submit an answer with the risk that others might think that I am parroting what has already been said (which I'm sure most people wouldn't think too positively of) or read the ignored users' posts which kind of defeats the purpose of having an ignore list. It's not a huge problem if most of my list consisted of trolls since they're not likely to contribute intelligently to discussions but a much more comprehensive list that encompasses a wider variety of users could eventually cause problems. I don't recognize any of the names in your list and it isn't very long so it's probably fine. DannyHamilton's list goes a bit too far in my opinion since it includes posters like redsn0w, bryant.coleman, and Muhammid Zakir who tend to make highly constructive posts and are an integral part of this community. This is why I keep a strict list instead of a more wide one. I've often been accused that this is a "bear" list. I can assure you; it's not. The main problem with adding a person that: a. Has a newbie account b. Posts vague and/or irrelevant things c. Kills his time against a known sockpuppet account, is that's not always clear. As I've stated before, I constantly update this list and move people out of it if they follow my 3 over 3 rule (ie: 3 out of 3 posts are not trolling). It's not THE golden rule, but surely kicks some people like BlindMayorBitcorn out of this list as he posted constructively for 3 times in a row, no matter if he was rude and offended me in one of his previous ones. Being provocative in a public forum is not tolerable. It feels safe, but it's not noble, nor sane. If you want to be provocative and offensive to someone, IMHO you should have the guts to look him in the eye when you do it and not from your couch comfort, behind a screen and a keyboard. Again, I'm not claiming the infallible. I know that someone can do this job better than me. If you're that specific someone, please make it happen and I will blindly follow. As a side note, I'd judge your comment of the chance missing some post as a collateral damage. Nevertheless, if that poster follows my 3-3 rule he will be probably out of the list sooner than that happens. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: BlueInCoin on May 10, 2015, 05:23:09 PM How to know that someone is a clone account or not ???
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: gentlemand on May 10, 2015, 05:25:15 PM How to know that someone is a clone account or not ??? There's a very specific modus operandi. It usually becomes clear that it's the same person within a post or two. They use the same graphics, tactics and phraseology almost every time without fail. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Welsh on May 10, 2015, 05:27:16 PM How to know that someone is a clone account or not ??? With good judgement. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's less obvious. The majority of the time you won't know. From my perspective there is nothing with alternate accounts. It gives people the freedom to give an opinion or view from a identity that isn't their 'main'. The accounts which are malcious are the ones that give themselves trust, spam etc. Whoever posts on an alternative account regular normally slips up eventually. You'll see blatent obvious ones which speak the same and use the same vocabulary and structure. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2015, 12:39:10 PM This is why I keep a strict list instead of a more wide one. I've often been accused that this is a "bear" list. I can assure you; it's not. The main problem with adding a person that: What is your stance in regards to bought accounts? Although some are decent, most of them deserve to be on the ignore list.a. Has a newbie account b. Posts vague and/or irrelevant things c. Kills his time against a known sockpuppet account, is that's not always clear. As I've stated before, I constantly update this list and move people out of it if they follow my 3 over 3 rule (ie: 3 out of 3 posts are not trolling). It's not THE golden rule, but surely kicks some people like BlindMayorBitcorn out of this list as he posted constructively for 3 times in a row, no matter if he was rude and offended me in one of his previous ones. Being provocative in a public forum is not tolerable. It feels safe, but it's not noble, nor sane. If you want to be provocative and offensive to someone, IMHO you should have the guts to look him in the eye when you do it and not from your couch comfort, behind a screen and a keyboard. Again, I'm not claiming the infallible. I know that someone can do this job better than me. If you're that specific someone, please make it happen and I will blindly follow. As a side note, I'd judge your comment of the chance missing some post as a collateral damage. Nevertheless, if that poster follows my 3-3 rule he will be probably out of the list sooner than that happens. Cheers. They often write up nonsense, mostly because of being in a signature campaign. Update: I was asking if they go on the list as well? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 11, 2015, 12:57:00 PM Thanks for your question. I don't have anything against a poster that is using a bought account in order to make some money, as long as he is not offensive or provocative to others.
I agree with you afaic the non-constructive posts of many posters but (thankfully) It's not my job to test their posts for quality. That's the job of the man/woman who runs the campaign. Most of the serious campaigns here check their posters for constructive comments. If they don't comply they simply don't get paid. I bet that when this behavior becomes the new standard, we will have nothing to hold against a person who has an undersigned campaign under his posts. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on May 12, 2015, 12:43:08 PM last updated list for alphabetical order
Code: ababab1 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 12, 2015, 12:54:45 PM last updated list for alphabetical order <updated list> Thanks for this, updated the 2nd post. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 13, 2015, 09:36:56 PM Sockpuppet's galore last night. I think I got them all. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-14: Quote Shameless! AWAKE!! Cloven Salamanderer Hpzew slowerloris Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 17, 2015, 06:03:33 PM Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-17:
Quote DOX4BTC zyklonbob Sponsored by WECsvv Four more in The List, please update. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on May 17, 2015, 08:25:59 PM my last post updated for alphabetical order.
i recommend all to use list. this really help for scammers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 21, 2015, 04:18:24 PM List updated with 2 more sockpuppets...
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-21: Quote atrocity shit coin Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 27, 2015, 06:55:09 AM After the short break of bitcointalk.org forum due to a hacker attack, it seems we're back in business (together with the sockpuppets). Three nailed down for the last couple of days. If you have something to add please be my guest. Don't forget to update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-27: Quote seveneyes Pooh wTg0co Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 28, 2015, 10:46:31 AM After observing his posts and certified passing my "3 over 3" rule, (ie: 3 posts without trolling / or 3 useful posts) I decided to remove him from The List.
Removed from The List as of 2015-05-28: Quote luckygenough56 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 28, 2015, 12:58:56 PM One of my all time favourite things to happen on this forum ;D
Hey macsga good work my friend, there is another obe just popped up in the Wall Observer Soec thread. Just giving you a heads up, we can't rest, they're creating socks all the time. We must stay vigiliant to remove them from our forum feed. Haha keep up the great service you're providing genuine bitcoin enthusiasts. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 28, 2015, 02:50:31 PM LOL. For a moment I thought it'd be better off the list, but then again, he did it in purpose so that this one is on the top alphabetical order... :D
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-28: Quote ~Lambchop 73rr0rcoin whenanimalskill McBork Updated! Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Assad on May 28, 2015, 02:51:05 PM This is useless now.
They just create a new account for every post they make, and abandon the other accounts Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 28, 2015, 02:54:06 PM This is useless now. They just create a new account for every post they make, and abandon the other accounts Partially true. Many of these accounts are currently active and known sockpuppets in use (ie: YourMother, etc). Since there's no other weapon of choice, I'll just keep maintaining and using this one... :-\ Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 28, 2015, 07:21:15 PM <snip> Curse you, macsga! Thanks to you, my account has been unjustly banned. <snip> I'm sure you will make another one to heal the pain, after this one is on ignore Lamby. :) Latest additions to The List as of 2015-05-28: Quote ~Lambchop 73rr0rcoin whenanimalskill McBork Updated! Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on May 28, 2015, 09:00:19 PM What about known trolls? Is the list specifically for sockpuppets or are other people are also included?
I know that Danny has a list of spammers that is also quite huge. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 28, 2015, 09:10:58 PM What about known trolls? Is the list specifically for sockpuppets or are other people are also included? I know that Danny has a list of spammers that is also quite huge. Thanks for asking. There are plenty of lists after the Newbie Jail has been declared dead. The main idea of this one is to narrow down which posts have the following characteristics: 1. Being provocative and/or offensive to others 2. Being irritating by posting inappropriate stuff 3. Being "just noise" within a thread These three rules are narrowing down this List to fewer members. As stated before on this thread, this is an ongoing project which is being revised several times per day. I'm open to suggestions and/or additions and/or removals of a member from the list. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on May 30, 2015, 10:28:56 PM Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-01: Quote qkmqnm cropmarks Whore0fBabylon pleaseexplainagain Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 01, 2015, 02:05:15 PM As of today, following my 3 over 3 rule, Fonzie is out of The List. If -for some reason- you want his name back in please keep in mind you will have to add it yourself. The rest please update your lists.
Thanks. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: pissedoff on June 01, 2015, 03:04:54 PM Everyone in the speculation sub forum should be ignored.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 01, 2015, 03:22:02 PM Everyone in the speculation sub forum should be ignored. Well, not really. I really enjoy reading about 90% of the posts there (after applying "The List"). Insightful posts regarding possible price drops & rises, TA graphs, even news and rumors are mostly welcome. That's why they call it "Speculation" after all. Everybody has the right to express him/herself. On the other hand, I find extremely annoying people who are trying to bully others, provoke them and/or post irritating pictures just to force the rest not to read the specific thread. Mind you, I strongly believe (can't prove it though) that up to a certain level, the speculation thread *really* drives the price up and down. Otherwise, why would a sockpuppet army make all this effort to demolish the place? ::) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 01, 2015, 05:29:27 PM Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-01:
Quote qkmqnm cropmarks Whore0fBabylon pleaseexplainagain Shipraraty An Error Has Occurred! Please update your lists. Two more additions for today. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 01, 2015, 06:20:11 PM Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-01: Quote qkmqnm cropmarks Whore0fBabylon pleaseexplainagain Shipraraty An Error Has Occurred! Please update your lists. Two more additions for today. Good work again macsga, he/they just keep coming & coming. I'm desperate for a change in trend & an upwards price surge for a number of reasons, the obvious ones plus the fact that our resident troll(s) might just crawl back under the rock they came from (retreat back into their basement bedrooms in their Mother's house). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: RodeoX on June 01, 2015, 06:26:08 PM I add a few a day now. But I noticed something today. Almost all the sock pupets are in the same signature campaign. Posting crap about bitcoin crashing to zero, while receiving bitcoin as payment.
Well I'm calling out the businesses who pay these guys. I think we should boycot them. For example "fortunejack.com". There is an old saying: "Show me who you hang out with and I'll tell you who you are." What business would have these guy(s) as advocates? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: newflesh on June 01, 2015, 06:54:42 PM If you add this list to the members on DannyHamilton's list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0), you will probably end up ignoring most of the people on the forum ;D
Code: ~Lambchop Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on June 01, 2015, 07:13:03 PM last updated list for alphabetical order total 144 user
Code: ~Lambchop Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on June 01, 2015, 08:54:39 PM Thanks for asking. There are plenty of lists after the Newbie Jail has been declared dead. The main idea of this one is to narrow down which posts have the following characteristics: I guess one of the primary reasons to the vast amount of spam is the tolerance that most of the campaign managers (excluding some such as Carra) and staff have. Just look at DannyHamilton's ignore list.1. Being provocative and/or offensive to others 2. Being irritating by posting inappropriate stuff 3. Being "just noise" within a thread These three rules are narrowing down this List to fewer members. As stated before on this thread, this is an ongoing project which is being revised several times per day. I'm open to suggestions and/or additions and/or removals of a member from the list. I know, because I was part of it before he excluded me realizing that my posts were actually good (improved significantly after joining Mbit and Chainroll), due to someone quoting me; he did even state this in the thread. Anyhow, whenever I check if someone is ignored, I usually find them in that list for a good reason. People are posting without actually doing a sufficient amount of reading or any at all. I understand this only in certain situations such as joining into a discussion that already has a lot of replies (50+/100+ pages). Voicing nonsense in new discussion actually reflects the persons actual motives to posting (which are often wrong, such in the case of signature campaigns). I'm guessing that your criteria is softer in comparison to him, or that you're targeting a different group of members. However, the combined list would surely (or at least gradually) increase the overall quality of posts around most of the sections. I guess there are some downsides to freedom of speech when it is backed up by anonymity. I'm actually hoping that something will be done in the future that will effectively work on cutting down the nonsense around here. We've seen decreased activity from some senior members due to this. I'll PM you shortly. Update: Significant amount of corrections in my post. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 02, 2015, 06:44:51 AM I guess one of the primary reasons to the vast amount of spam is the tolerance that most of the campaign managers (excluding some such as Carra) and staff have. Just look at DannyHamilton's ignore list. I know, because I was part of it before he excluded me realizing that my posts were actually good (improved significantly after joining Mbit and Chainroll), due to someone quoting me; he did even state this in the thread. Anyhow, whenever I check if someone is ignored, I usually find them in that list for a good reason. People are posting without actually doing a sufficient amount of reading or any at all. I understand this only in certain situations such as joining into a discussion that already has a lot of replies (50+/100+ pages). Voicing nonsense in new discussion actually reflects the persons actual motives to posting (which are often wrong, such in the case of signature campaigns). I'm guessing that your criteria is softer in comparison to him, or that you're targeting a different group of members. However, the combined list would surely (or at least gradually) increase the overall quality of posts around most of the sections. I guess there are some downsides to freedom of speech when it is backed up by anonymity. I'm actually hoping that something will be done in the future that will effectively work on cutting down the nonsense around here. We've seen decreased activity from some senior members due to this. I'll PM you shortly. Update: Significant amount of corrections in my post. First of, I've often been advised (and accused) about people "wearing" an undersigned campaign (as I'm one of them). If you check the beginning of this thread, I have thoroughly explained why this is not a factor to judge if someone's posts are useful or not. I'd indulge you to read the first two pages in order to avoid repeating myself. Second; my criteria are (it's a plural of "criterion") based on a couple of facts that happened before (since sometime back in 2011) that have to do with social engineering and behavioral enforcement of certain forum users. Let me explain: Behavioral sciences have been on top-of-the-priority-list for many govt. agencies since sometime in the 60s. Public opinion "sculpturing" and unconscious idea enforcement is one of the first tasks that their experiments were after and were heavily funded. You can easily guess why... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_Science_Unit) Some of those "techniques" were continuously applied by certain individuals within (mainly) the speculation thread (and elsewhere on this forum) with one goal in mind: "accumulate more BTCs". The funny thing was that they were very successful at the time (some of them are friends of mine right now, others are on this list) and they kept doing it and bragging about it back then. Fortunately, they stopped their tactics after they achieved their goal. Everything follows a circular (elliptical to be honest) pattern and history tends to repeat itself so others in their place are doing the very same thing right now, only harder; and using far more brutal language in their posts. As RodeoX has stated, they're on a payroll for BTCs and the reason is pretty simple. BTCs are scarce and there's no other way to accumulate enough - not now, not ever. TL;DR: I keep maintaining this list because I hate seeing people who managed to mine/buy some BTCs losing their stash, because of the heavily distributed FUD that the army of sockpuppets are launching each day towards our community in order their bosses getting "more cheap coins". At the same time, I try to revise it with "errors" I've made (ie: including a bear user instead of a trolling/spreading FUD one) and make it better. I appreciate any suggestions & help. :) Good morning from Greece. PS: PM replied :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on June 02, 2015, 09:21:16 AM First of, I've often been advised (and accused) about people "wearing" an undersigned campaign (as I'm one of them). If you check the beginning of this thread, I have thoroughly explained why this is not a factor to judge if someone's posts are useful or not. I'd indulge you to read the first two pages in order to avoid repeating myself. It's great that we've come to an agreement. I did however read your thread a while ago but I didn't remember almost anything in regards to it (minor importance, as the list itself is only what matters).Second; my criteria are (it's a plural of "criterion") based on a couple of facts that happened before (since sometime back in 2011) that have to do with social engineering and behavioral enforcement of certain forum users. -snip- TL;DR: I keep maintaining this list because I hate seeing people who managed to mine/buy some BTCs losing their stash, because of the heavily distributed FUD that the army of sockpuppets are launching each day towards our community in order their bosses getting "more cheap coins". At the same time, I try to revise it with "errors" I've made (ie: including a bear user instead of a trolling/spreading FUD one) and make it better. I appreciate any suggestions & help. :) This list is a great idea and you seem to have a few members in it now. If someone was really wanting to increase their experience with the forum they would use both lists and make progress. I won't be (hopefully) posting here anymore. Keep updating the list and good morning to you as well. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: ed_teech on June 02, 2015, 01:24:44 PM crtl + F - marcotheminer Yes! Not there :P I did the exact same thing ! Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 02, 2015, 01:27:06 PM Two more added for today; I think more are inline.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-02: Quote dhpwn choffmann Please update. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 03, 2015, 08:27:20 PM Two more added for today. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-03: Quote Sinking Aardvarksarerare Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 04, 2015, 01:36:39 PM More to follow. In the meanwhile, please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-04: Quote BrowserCoin Kaborkian Mashennik nehodi rararules StrangerCoin Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 05, 2015, 02:25:29 PM One of the many for today. Keep coming I have the feeling more will be added as the time passes by. :-\
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-05: Quote NeilDiamond Please update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 06, 2015, 06:00:49 PM Yet another one for today. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-06: Quote fishpants Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: dakota neat on June 07, 2015, 12:11:29 PM updated. thanks macsga!
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: 19CA0DF on June 07, 2015, 03:28:04 PM Updated! Thank you. ;)
By the while...i just found also a PM referral spammer. Code: slovenia1 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 07, 2015, 04:13:15 PM You're welcome. FOUR more for today. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-07: Quote B3H3M07h New.Dawn.66 WallEye Aardvarksarerarity Updated! Thank you. ;) By the while...i just found also a PM referral spammer. Code: slovenia1 I don't think that ignoring him will stop him from PMing you. I'd report to a moderator (press report this user button). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 08, 2015, 08:22:53 PM One more nailed down for today. The trend has changed, so I expect a decline on sockpuppet births... Anyhow; please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-08: Quote Cinstable Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: --Encrypted-- on June 08, 2015, 08:53:43 PM aren't you going a little overboard by adding newbies with no more than 2 posts in the list? your list will become way too big in no time at this rate.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fatman3001 on June 08, 2015, 08:58:44 PM aren't you going a little overboard by adding newbies with no more than 2 posts in the list? your list will become way too big in no time at this rate. It's one user. NLC. It's the only way we can try to keep grampa- and kiddyporn off the WO thread.Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 08, 2015, 09:27:11 PM aren't you going a little overboard by adding newbies with no more than 2 posts in the list? your list will become way too big in no time at this rate. It's one user. NLC. It's the only way we can try to keep grampa- and kiddyporn off the WO thread.Exactly. @Katsou: Adding a newbie into The List certifies some very strict criteria. We have -by now- understood his posting characteristics and -after a short time- you will be able to identify his clone accounts too... Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: --Encrypted-- on June 08, 2015, 09:32:12 PM aren't you going a little overboard by adding newbies with no more than 2 posts in the list? your list will become way too big in no time at this rate. It's one user. NLC. It's the only way we can try to keep grampa- and kiddyporn off the WO thread.Exactly. @Katsou: Adding a newbie into The List certifies some very strict criteria. We have -by now- understand his posting characteristics and -after a short time- you will be able to identify his clone accounts too... that clarified a few things, thank you. this NLC guy sounds like a nasty piece of work. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 08, 2015, 09:39:05 PM He/she is just a very weird person mate. 'It' dedicates its life to trolling & annoying people on this forum, maybe others too, who knows.
He/she doesn't own any bitcoin so I'm totally at a loss to understand why it frequents this place, it has no vested interest in bitcoin to succeed. Just avoid it mate, there is nothing to be gained from interacting with it. macsga is a pretty smart guy, he won't add people to 'THE LIST' without being sure they're trolls or NLC. This is a pretty good service provided by macsga, I'd advise you to use it. The only problem is that it creates new accounts by the bucket load, never ending stream of bull shit, the good thing is that its pretty easy to spot & people usually put it on ignore within 3 or 4 posts of each new account. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: goldkey0070 on June 08, 2015, 11:36:00 PM I have a few idea's on who's the boss behind these sock puppets......
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 09, 2015, 08:32:39 AM I have a few idea's on who's the boss behind these sock puppets...... Considering that we've witnessed behavior like this in the past by several members I have some ideas too. If you want to exchange info via PM I'm all ears. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 09, 2015, 01:37:28 PM One more. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-09: Quote Colostomized Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 10, 2015, 02:33:00 PM Daily update. Most of the new sockpuppets have been also banned on sight by some of the mods. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-10: Quote BitcoinExpertd Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Amitabh S on June 10, 2015, 02:43:12 PM I have also just started using "The List". Lets see how smooth my life becomes. I just copy-paste the list in the OP.. is that it?
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 10, 2015, 02:47:37 PM I have also just started using "The List". Lets see how smooth my life becomes. I just copy-paste the list in the OP.. is that it? Yes. That's about it. You can also add this list at the bottom of yours if you wish to have more in there that I've not included. The process is described with direct links in the OP. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 11, 2015, 09:18:49 PM Three more for today. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-12: Quote bitwendy Jacques_Bittard Visi0nary! Beelzebub_PR Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: goldkey0070 on June 12, 2015, 03:40:14 AM I have a few idea's on who's the boss behind these sock puppets...... Considering that we've witnessed behavior like this in the past by several members I have some ideas too. If you want to exchange info via PM I'm all ears. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fakhoury on June 13, 2015, 12:04:35 AM June 13, 2015
Quote cl0s3r2u Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 13, 2015, 07:13:56 AM June 13, 2015 Quote cl0s3r2u Thanks for the help Fakhoury. Another one added. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fakhoury on June 13, 2015, 02:49:07 PM You are most welcome macsga.
New list of 06-13-2015 Quote Cat_Away Falcoo0 Helpful bb-trading JarvasTechnology SevenMacaw Edit 1 : Added bb-trading. Edit 2 : Added JarvasTechnology Edit 3 : Added SevenMacaw Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fakhoury on June 13, 2015, 06:06:26 PM June 13, 2015 Quote cl0s3r2u Thanks for the help Fakhoury. Another one added. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-13: Quote cl0s3r2u bmnzb Cat_Away Falcoo0 Kindly keep an eye on my posts as I edit them frequently. And Oh, congratulate me please, your friend is hating much on me lol (If you know what I mean ;)) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 13, 2015, 06:36:59 PM Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-13:
Quote cl0s3r2u bmnzb Cat_Away Falcoo0 Moonsturm Helpful bb-trading YourBlondFriend Slow times price-wise, Busy times ignore-list-wise... ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 13, 2015, 09:44:28 PM Another day, another addition... (or more). Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-14: Quote SevenMacaw JarvasTechnology el kaka33 Petek Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fakhoury on June 14, 2015, 08:34:38 AM June 14, 2015
Quote el kaka33 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: --Encrypted-- on June 14, 2015, 01:39:14 PM June 14, 2015 Quote el kaka33 may I ask why are you adding him there? I saw his posts and don't see anything wrong there.. well, other than a couple of stupid posts.. which all people do every once in a while edit: added to my list. I thought it was el kaka22 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377135 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 14, 2015, 01:42:22 PM June 14, 2015 Quote el kaka33 may I ask why are you adding him there? I saw his posts and don't see anything wrong there.. well, other than a couple of stupid posts.. which all people do every once in a while It's a sockpuppet account. His posts are constantly been deleted by the mods. (0-posts at the time) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=522174 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 16, 2015, 12:41:53 PM Business as usual; I thought we were done with him after the short bull run of the last 24h but... here he goes again.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-16: Quote anonymy ChemicalCoin Please update. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 17, 2015, 12:30:37 PM More sockpuppets for today; please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-17: Quote Con2con Uncool,bro! insponsored altoidboy14 lovenlifeladrge DSongminer raging_bull Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on June 17, 2015, 09:55:42 PM Here is another one for you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=523437 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg11646118#msg11646118 His first and only post is in the Wall Observer thread; he's stating that Bitcoin is going to crash and that we should all sell. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 17, 2015, 10:08:52 PM Here is another one for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=523437 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg11646118#msg11646118 His first and only post is in the Wall Observer thread; he's stating that Bitcoin is going to crash and that we should all sell. Thanks for the heads up. A common thing he does is quoting another user and putting inside his own previous post... Oh well... Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 18, 2015, 09:35:50 AM News update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-18: Quote jhwinspiral Tomorrowland Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Amitabh S on June 18, 2015, 03:04:48 PM Any way we can dynamically update my list as and when its updated? too much to ask I know..
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 18, 2015, 04:10:48 PM More sockpuppets for today; please update your lists. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-17: Quote Con2con Uncool,bro! insponsored altoidboy14 lovenlifeladrge DSongminer raging_bull Insane, really, really insane ^^^^ Need to update my list, I've been neglecting it for a while but loads of them have been popping up duding the reversal in trend. They must be getting really desperate, I can smell desperation in the air. It really must be a sad existence in life to want to come on a forum that you get no enjoyment out of, just to troll others. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 19, 2015, 05:34:23 AM Any way we can dynamically update my list as and when its updated? too much to ask I know.. I think it's feasible, if you know how to write a script. As an alternative, there is a vast library of automation software if you want to make it happen the easy way though; I'd go for that as no scripting knowledge required (I know how to program, but just too lazy) :P Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on June 19, 2015, 08:50:33 PM Any way we can dynamically update my list as and when its updated? too much to ask I know.. I think it's feasible, if you know how to write a script. As an alternative, there is a vast library of automation software if you want to make it happen the easy way though; I'd go for that as no scripting knowledge required (I know how to program, but just too lazy) :P i search google but dont find any info for SMF. if anyone have SMF profile-forum api document, maybe we write a simple script. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 19, 2015, 08:56:56 PM Any way we can dynamically update my list as and when its updated? too much to ask I know.. I think it's feasible, if you know how to write a script. As an alternative, there is a vast library of automation software if you want to make it happen the easy way though; I'd go for that as no scripting knowledge required (I know how to program, but just too lazy) :P i search google but dont find any info for SMF. if anyone have SMF profile-forum api document, maybe we write a simple script. As previously stated, there's no need for that. You can record your mouse moves and carefully copy and paste from the OP here the list into your ignore list with a couple of clicks. You can schedule this every 24h, I believe there was a program called "mouse and key recorder" which was free (or about $2) a couple of years ago (maybe more). Check out for this or something similar that suits your needs. Don't go for scripting, it requires API functions which (IMHO) nobody will give them to you from the mods/operators of this forum for obvious reasons. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on June 19, 2015, 09:21:26 PM Any way we can dynamically update my list as and when its updated? too much to ask I know.. I think it's feasible, if you know how to write a script. As an alternative, there is a vast library of automation software if you want to make it happen the easy way though; I'd go for that as no scripting knowledge required (I know how to program, but just too lazy) :P i search google but dont find any info for SMF. if anyone have SMF profile-forum api document, maybe we write a simple script. As previously stated, there's no need for that. You can record your mouse moves and carefully copy and paste from the OP here the list into your ignore list with a couple of clicks. You can schedule this every 24h, I believe there was a program called "mouse and key recorder" which was free (or about $2) a couple of years ago (maybe more). Check out for this or something similar that suits your needs. Don't go for scripting, it requires API functions which (IMHO) nobody will give them to you from the mods/operators of this forum for obvious reasons. i dont have proplem already with update list. only copy-paste and click a button ok. i write for prev post, but that's right. i dont think that. be misunderstood. sorry. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 20, 2015, 12:55:48 PM Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-20: Quote Changeling Psyched! Desolation76 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 21, 2015, 03:13:49 PM One more for today. Hopefully others won't follow - mods are not letting him post more than 2 times in a row.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-21: Quote colector22 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on June 24, 2015, 09:09:41 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=525554
Account was created less than a hour ago and made a thread about how Bitcoin is a pump and dumb scheme. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1098681.msg11705727#msg11705727 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 25, 2015, 05:18:31 AM After a couple of days of absence, I've noticed that no sockpuppet account has been active for more than 8hrs (tops). This is due to the excellent tracing from the forum mods, also as, the help of the forum users who do not hesitate to press "Report to Moderator" button. Maybe this will put an end in this "new account madness" that NLC & co have been initiated for some months now (I've personally reported about 50 of them with 90% accuracy).
Whoever wants this forum clean and readable (apart from using The List) please HELP THE MODS! Press "Report to Moderator" button when you have the suspicion that a newbie account is a sockpuppet. Don't worry, they're easily traceable - their attitude is pretty much recognizable by now. Cheers. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-25: Quote u527uj PS: Thanks LaudaM Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 25, 2015, 09:39:34 PM Business as usual.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-26: Quote BusinessMachine Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: franckuestein on June 26, 2015, 07:19:48 PM Hi @macsga and thanks for your work!
Once reporting the new users for "THE LIST", can you please provide us their profile links, too? Just to be able to quickly check and review their profiles. Thanks! ;) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 26, 2015, 08:04:45 PM Hi @macsga and thanks for your work! Once reporting the new users for "THE LIST", can you please provide us their profile links, too? Just to be able to quickly check and review their profiles. Thanks! ;) It's been already quite a job to maintain such a list and not have the time to do it for every member out there. If you, however, want to maintain such a post I'll be glad to repost it on the 2nd post of this thread. Apart from that when a new sockpuppet is added, I must inform you within literally hours (if not minutes) his posts are eliminated (deleted) by some moderator. Thus such an action would be useless. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 27, 2015, 01:31:30 PM Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-27: Quote mwdrzy wpOyHb arabesque MDBbK6 gGxK86 T6mFo0 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hayabusa911 on June 27, 2015, 03:16:48 PM I'm happy to see such extensive lists. I should start doing this myself, things are getting ridiculous. It really is a damn shame.
with over half a million members and growing things will only get worse. :-[ Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 28, 2015, 09:10:05 AM Good morning. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-29: Quote pissa koshachey Cobalicious yudayed xPeyVW podpolnik Kot.Begemot Colostomatic tarmi AmberCam Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 30, 2015, 01:59:23 PM Moved Tarmi off the list following my 3 out of 3 constructive posts. If you still want him inside, please consider adding him by yourselves.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: ThEmporium on June 30, 2015, 03:36:28 PM Regards to the ignore list which is most concerned about newbies, to be honest I found few more newbies are really professional and talented, if we see the technical discussion thread, there are lot of newbies who ask the great technical questions and offer the solutions for any problems regards to the Bitcoin and Blockchain technlogy. Those worthy newbies should given the green flag and raised to the upper level by the moderators.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 30, 2015, 03:39:01 PM Regards to the ignore list which is most concerned about newbies, to be honest I found few more newbies are really professional and talented, if we see the technical discussion thread, there are lot of newbies who ask the great technical questions and offer the solutions for any problems regards to the Bitcoin and Blockchain technlogy. Those worthy newbies should given the green flag and raised to the upper level by the moderators. If you'd read the OP, you would understand that this is not a newbie list. I'd indulge you to dive into and read it. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on June 30, 2015, 06:27:03 PM Good morning. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-06-30: Quote sterokil P2Pro Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 01, 2015, 12:28:01 PM A new month, with a new List. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-01: Quote robashen bradleyj LD50 TheRealistMassiah Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on July 01, 2015, 12:34:41 PM I expect more of them to appear if we end up slipping into the low 250's or 240's. Somebody uber rich should send 'it' 2 or 3 BTC it'd be for the good of bitcointalk.org because then 'it' would surely want the price rise & the relentless trolling would stop. I think we even had old man gay porn recently ;D. I suppose it's easy enough to apply 'THE LIST' though. Thanks for this macsga, great work as usual.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 01, 2015, 12:48:24 PM I expect more of them to appear if we end up slipping into the low 250's or 240's. Somebody uber rich should send 'it' 2 or 3 BTC it'd be for the good of bitcointalk.org because then 'it' would surely want the price rise & the relentless trolling would stop. I think we even had old man gay porn recently ;D. I suppose it's easy enough to apply 'THE LIST' though. Thanks for this macsga, great work as usual. Thanks. If the price rolls further down, I expect the Hell will break loose afaic the sockpuppet accounts. Fortunately, the mods have been kicking them on sight and make this list narrower. The top must have been on 29 of June. 10 of them (and I'm sure that I've missed some!) :D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 03, 2015, 10:06:04 PM Good morning everybody. Here comes an update to The List. Please update to the latest additions.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-04: Quote Mistered Maytag Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: thebenjamincode on July 04, 2015, 01:07:36 PM thank you so much for this list
i hope you would keep it up since there are so many scammers and spammers here in the forum ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 05, 2015, 06:19:30 PM thank you so much for this list i hope you would keep it up since there are so many scammers and spammers here in the forum ;D You're most welcome. Today's update: Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-05: Quote WilhelmB molecularod luckyhash Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: cbeast on July 06, 2015, 02:13:49 AM Now we need "The List" on Reddit.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on July 06, 2015, 04:01:56 AM Now we need "The List" on Reddit. Is that where you've gone? :'( Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 06, 2015, 06:20:26 PM We say "OXI" to trolls. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-06: Quote Superfineco Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 07, 2015, 08:58:49 PM I must admit, being passed a day and not having to add more sockpuppets in this list truly makes me feel happy. Fool yourselves not though; NLC and Co is still here trolling away. This is a strong effort from the moderators of this forum and hopefully, it will be fruitful sooner than later.
Thanks guys. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-08: Quote Blackwulf blancmangere Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 13, 2015, 12:06:20 PM Sigh... he's back. :-\ Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-13: Quote andrew67 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: yeponlyone on July 14, 2015, 07:32:24 PM Thanks for the list :) I didn't even not "Newbie Jail" was gone, I've just noticed that the quality of posts has really got worse lately.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: --Encrypted-- on July 16, 2015, 02:43:48 PM new ones.
EvugBo 2doorsdown cholered this guys are annoying. there were more, but their post got deleted before I got the name. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 16, 2015, 03:49:39 PM Thanks @ --encrypted-- for the headsup. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-16: Quote EvugBo 2doorsdown cholered Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on July 16, 2015, 07:58:46 PM Thx again for list, we hit total 230 user already. But most people don't have information abut this topic.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 19, 2015, 08:59:07 PM Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-07-19: Quote huffington panic_time! sayitagain Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Hfertig on July 30, 2015, 02:17:39 PM Wow, I must admit that I do somehow feel honoured beeing the first person on your original list ;D
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on July 30, 2015, 02:59:04 PM Wow, I must admit that I do somehow feel honoured beeing the first person on your original list ;D Checked your recent posts. 3 useful/non provocative/non insulting posts out of 3 counted. You're off the list. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 01, 2015, 03:27:31 PM Five more additions to the list. If I missed someone please post his username here; and please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-01: Quote lu2k6y555 orneryjack Rev.21 citronfête GitBit Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: smoothie on August 02, 2015, 01:13:57 AM thanks for the list.
Will hopefully limit the amount of garbage I end up having to read through. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 02, 2015, 10:38:40 AM Two more added for today. It seems he waited for cheap coins but didn't turn out as well as he thought... :P
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-02: Quote unbeelzebub TheLookOutKid thanks for the list. Will hopefully limit the amount of garbage I end up having to read through. Thanks smoothie. If you notice something I missed out please add the nickname here. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 02, 2015, 12:27:17 PM They've come back strong over the last few days. I saw a 'double digits' prediction yesterday ;D . Amazing how so much negativity/trolling can appear following a 20 USD drop. Just updated my list again any way, I'm sure I'll have to do so again if we don't move back up to 300 very soon.
Once again thanks for providing us with this service macsga. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 02, 2015, 12:34:24 PM Thanks LFC_Bitcoin. Guess what ...they keep coming. FIVE for today. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-02: Quote unbeelzebub TheLookOutKid awinner Ue0KGd Crumbles Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 03, 2015, 06:49:23 PM so if 10 people have to add him to their lists, or take 5 seconds retrieving your updated list, then it's a draw, and if more people do, he wins? Pardon me but this is not a competition (the way I see it). It's a way to expel a member who has absolutely no interest in bitcoin and his only interest is to provoke, irritate and troll everybody in this place. I'm not sure about his motives; I'm guessing he's on payroll or maybe he's just here for trolling (too much effort for such a task if you ask me). I haven't added EVERY account of his in the List; but I guess it becomes too much of effort (for him) to see which is unbanned and start typing there in order for the users who are using The List, actually read what he has to say. I assure you though, if you choose to use this list, the most commonly used threads on this forum become a paradise. Cheers. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fatman3001 on August 03, 2015, 08:33:30 PM so if 10 people have to add him to their lists, or take 5 seconds retrieving your updated list, then it's a draw, and if more people do, he wins? It keeps him occupied. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 03, 2015, 09:07:43 PM I've decided to put kenji on ignore for flooding the Wall Observer Thread with reverse Monero promotion. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-03: Quote kenji Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 05, 2015, 05:45:34 PM Following the 3 out of 3 rule of constructive / non provocative posts I've removed sAt0sHiFanClub from The List. Please update.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: thebenjamincode on August 06, 2015, 12:11:47 AM thanks for this list, its very nice to get the trolls out of the way in this forum
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on August 08, 2015, 05:17:55 PM Thx for list again.
and please add this scammer Marcy spamming forum with ref link more than 60 thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=405552;sa=showPosts Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: --Encrypted-- on August 08, 2015, 05:21:43 PM Thx for list again. and please add this scammer Marcy spamming forum with ref link more than 60 thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=405552;sa=showPosts there's a high chance that the account was hacked. I don't think it's fair to ignore him for that. actually the original owner just created a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147542.0). missed that. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 08, 2015, 06:14:39 PM I'm certainly NOT the Pope. I've been monitoring several threads at the same time and some of the users I've been adding into the list for the last couple of months may be wrongly put in there; but I follow my rules. Together with the usual sockpuppets of NLC, I've today added to the list dakota neat for breaking my 3 out of 3 provocative/insultive posts rule. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-08: Quote dakota neat TragicalSam Tragicbit hey Stella? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: hunterwolf on August 08, 2015, 06:37:27 PM Thx for list again. and please add this scammer Marcy spamming forum with ref link more than 60 thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=405552;sa=showPosts there's a high chance that the account was hacked. I don't think it's fair to ignore him for that. actually the original owner just created a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147542.0). missed that. yes i miss thats thread. thx for info, i quess too, but i was ignore because i see nearly every thread. after take account, i will delete. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on August 09, 2015, 10:06:05 AM I have another suggestion, however this time it is not a member that deserves to be on the list.
Could you keep a count of the number of members on the list? Also you could add a separate quote for monthly additions such as Danny Hamilton does. That should not be too much work and would be quite useful. If it is too much work, send me a PM and I could help. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 09, 2015, 11:31:31 AM I have another suggestion, however this time it is not a member that deserves to be on the list. Could you keep a count of the number of members on the list? Also you could add a separate quote for monthly additions such as Danny Hamilton does. That should not be too much work and would be quite useful. If it is too much work, send me a PM and I could help. The idea of The List is one and only: To keep this place as clean as possible from heretic posts that distract our attention from what this forum tends to serve; Information on BTC/Crypto. I have been keeping this simple in order to be able to update it as often as possible. The alphabetical list is incorporated for easy search (though one could Ctrl+F to do so in the OP) but I decided to do it anyway. The 1st post has the newest "members" added on the bottom, there's a reason for this. Also I have been progressively posting the additions every day/or every update. If you want to help by contributing your ideas, please, by all means do so. When you have it ready either post it here or PM me and I will add it on the 2nd post of this thread. Regards. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 09, 2015, 11:57:16 AM A few more additions for today:
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-09: Quote AmericanInternational Spider-Carnage SomeTroll Dr. F-e asmal Edit: I've also added asmal into The List; he's probably a hacked account - please DON'T click at his link. Please update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on August 10, 2015, 02:50:12 PM I guess that you should make a additional quote for people added within the last month. Let me explain. I've prepared a summary of the members added within July and you keep that in a separate list until September after which you remove the list from July and add the one from August. This should help much with viewing new additions (for people doing reviews as well).
Another suggestion would be to lock this thread and start a new moderated one (which could help you continue in a much cleaner way). Interestingly your list contains 251 users total, which is much less than what DannyHamilton has, i.e. 1062. (I know that he adds people for different purposes but still). There have been a total of 19 additions in July: Quote robashen bradleyj LD50 TheRealistMassiah Mistered Maytag WilhelmB molecularod luckyhash Superfineco Blackwulf blancmangere andrew67 EvugBo 2doorsdown cholered huffington panic_time! sayitagain A single user was removed from the list: Quote Hfertig Here is another suggestion from me. Add the member hko1GZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=543897), check out his first post. Update: It looks like the post was removed. It was a thread about Bitcoin going to die (i.e. first post). Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 10, 2015, 06:17:29 PM There have been a total of 19 additions in July: Quote robashen bradleyj LD50 TheRealistMassiah Mistered Maytag WilhelmB molecularod luckyhash Superfineco Blackwulf blancmangere andrew67 EvugBo 2doorsdown cholered huffington panic_time! sayitagain A single user was removed from the list: Quote Hfertig Regards. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 10, 2015, 07:32:20 PM More sockpuppets added for today, not sure we will stop here, please update your ignore lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-10: Quote LPBeria l0ngsh0t Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 11, 2015, 12:03:21 PM A new day, a new addition (or more...)
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-11: Quote Pullmyfinger worriedme10 Please update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Amitabh S on August 12, 2015, 11:04:00 AM Its a tough job to maintain a list like this. I am thinking of a feature where people can share their ignore lists along with a reason (similar to trust).
Would be a really great addition. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 12, 2015, 05:31:18 PM Its a tough job to maintain a list like this. I am thinking of a feature where people can share their ignore lists along with a reason (similar to trust). Would be a really great addition. Thanks for the nice words. If you want to help, I'd really appreciate it. In the meanwhile we have more for today. Please update your lists. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-12: Quote superslug oCWLAJ Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 13, 2015, 06:51:39 PM One more for today, please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-13: Quote 617chpudd1n9 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 14, 2015, 02:44:36 PM After the proposition of LaudaM, I've added meono. Thanks for the help.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-14: Quote meono Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 16, 2015, 04:58:36 PM One more sockpuppet for today; please update your lists. Hopefully he's got his ass kicked all the time by the mods... or he got bored. ;D
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-16: Quote ThurstonHowell Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: --Encrypted-- on August 19, 2015, 08:06:21 PM caught four sockpuppets in the past 5 hours. I might have missed one.
Code: y67x8r Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on August 19, 2015, 08:10:28 PM caught four sockpuppets in the past 5 hours. I might have missed one. I've found him.-snip- Code: bitswiper Explanation: Posting Megacoin charts in the speculation section/going off topic since the first post. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 19, 2015, 08:22:54 PM Added! Thanks for the heads up guys.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-19: Quote y67x8r corporeal CP3G2n WT7KI8 bitswiper Please update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 19, 2015, 08:25:02 PM Added! Thanks for the heads up guys. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-19: Quote y67x8r corporeal CP3G2n WT7KI8 bitswiper Please update your lists. Will do. They've been rampant today after the price drop. Kind of depressing seeing all of their bile being spewed all over the forums. As if the price slump isn't bad enough I've had to read all of their crap making it worse. Just going to update my list now. Thanks buddy. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 21, 2015, 05:42:39 AM After I *carefully* examined about 25 pages of posts on Wall Observer Thread, I found out some more sockpuppets. Gosh, even mmitech showed his face around!
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-21: Quote sospun solidcloud PlumPurple ttbh T-Hanos Please keep this place clean - update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 22, 2015, 07:39:06 PM Greetings from the warzone of a dumping BTC price. I counted quite many for today. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-22: Quote ailingware lavenderfaith BitcoinPeople moneyfix etnchetnchetnch BenGobbledore Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 23, 2015, 05:47:39 PM One more for today, these eerie times of price inclination, I'm afraid he's the man who posts more than any other... Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-24: Quote Fr34d ElCheapo Costco newbie666 Lamb0 bull_scammer buyingplace Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fatman3001 on August 24, 2015, 03:16:08 PM You might want to consider hdbuck until he gets his life in order. I'm ok with him being a douche against me, but he's hurling insults in any and all directions.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 24, 2015, 06:56:48 PM You might want to consider hdbuck until he gets his life in order. I'm ok with him being a douche against me, but he's hurling insults in any and all directions. Yeah; a part of me just won't accept it; he used to be a nice guy... I think I won't add him, unless he continues his attitude for a couple of days or more. This is just sad. :-\ Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on August 24, 2015, 09:46:15 PM Yeah; a part of me just won't accept it; he used to be a nice guy... I think I won't add him, unless he continues his attitude for a couple of days or more. This is just sad. :-\ Actually a handful of older members have gone crazy (if I might say that; in comparison to their behavior prior to the debate). They've started to post nonsense and troll each other in most debates related to the block size limit. Such members are representing both sides (hdbuck being the example for Core; I won't name anyone publicly for either list though). Looks like the newbies aren't the only problem that we will be facing in the upcoming months.It is really hard to decide who should be ignored and who should not. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 25, 2015, 02:28:31 PM Caught a few -
postraumatic Uschi69 uxgpf Saw them (him) trolling from this page onwards - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.267140 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 25, 2015, 02:54:05 PM Welcome dear friend, and... goodbye! ;D
LFC, good job, thanks for the heads up. Please update your lists. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-25: Quote postraumatic Uschi69 uxgpf lineartech capture.png bobonaut Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Winalunt on August 25, 2015, 02:54:59 PM Wht exactly is going on in this thread..?? so the newbies are being cught for posting or what ?
and who are the cops ?? Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 25, 2015, 02:59:45 PM Wht exactly is going on in this thread..?? so the newbies are being cught for posting or what ? and who are the cops ?? They're not newbies, they're mainly the same well known troll on bitcointalk.org with various alt accounts / sock puppets who wanders around the forum with the sole intention of winding people up, spreading FUD, posting pics of old men sucking each others dicks & other stupid memes. Welcome dear friend, and... goodbye! ;D LFC, good job, thanks for the heads up. Please update your lists. Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-25: Quote postraumatic Uschi69 uxgpf lineartech capture.png Uschi69 Always willing to help whenever I can Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on August 25, 2015, 08:13:34 PM Found another one -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.267240 bobonaut Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 26, 2015, 12:00:17 AM Reposting for reference:
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-25: Quote postraumatic Uschi69 uxgpf lineartech capture.png bobonaut Please update your lists. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 28, 2015, 01:25:51 PM Yet another update from my last post hunting.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-28: Quote luxoorius Bit2chain altered37 Yes; I know Bit2chain only posted here and he just posted a "thank you" post... What are the odds? ;D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: btccashacc on August 28, 2015, 03:08:33 PM why you not ignore me
LOL :D Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Jhanzo on August 31, 2015, 09:51:28 AM saw one of this guy's post while browsing around.. I'm scarred for life now.
Quote chomp@bit Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 31, 2015, 12:56:27 PM saw one of this guy's post while browsing around.. I'm scarred for life now. Quote chomp@bit He's already busted by the Mods - he has 0 posts now (all of them deleted). Thanks for the heads up Jhanzo. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on August 31, 2015, 08:37:09 PM More to the List of Fail. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-08-31: Quote chomp@bit Mobilegut HelloBitcoin! Trotterdam ywgrz3 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on August 31, 2015, 11:05:55 PM There have been a total of 77 additions in August (a lot more than in July):
Code: lu2k6y555 A single user was removed from the list: Quote sAt0sHiFanClub Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 02, 2015, 05:45:25 AM Thanks LaudaM, I've added the stats to the OP yesterday. More are being added as we speak to The List. Please update.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-02: Quote Suda123 Armanddumal kryptokattery Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 03, 2015, 08:37:47 PM New shills on the block. Please update your lists and refresh. I keep adding them as we go on...
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-03: Quote braja ggggsj656 neeCarter theCoiling Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: franckuestein on September 06, 2015, 02:37:57 PM @baristor (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=341745) is another user that could be added to the list, @macsga.
Check their latest posts... just referral link spam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=341745;sa=showPosts;start=0 P.S: based on their trust feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=341745), it seems that the referred link contains malware. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 07, 2015, 12:49:04 PM Things have taken a nice turn during my absence the last 4 days.
Due to abuse, newbie-posted embedded images are now disabled on these pages: - Topic display - Recent posts / patrol - Previews They're not currently hidden in PMs or on some other pages (like a user's "show posts" page), though I might change that later if it seems necessary. Disabled images get transformed into links automatically. When the poster becomes a Jr member, the images that he tried to post previously will automatically be re-enabled (though there might be a few minutes of delay). This extends to all past posts as well as future ones. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1172918.new#new I really hope this will cut down the rhythm of sockpuppets and their posts; and I wouldn't mind if this thread is rendered useless... Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 09, 2015, 09:16:07 PM Seems he doesn't care much about not being allowed to add his pics. He's still at it:
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-10: Quote bithcbtbuser Please update. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 12, 2015, 01:26:49 PM We have more additions to the list today; he's posting poems & ASCII art now... Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-12: Quote astrido67 bitrhazfuser bitundznuser dandropolos gordiniya Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 13, 2015, 01:06:56 PM I have noticed I missed one yesterday - the good thing is that the mods keep banning him on sight. Yet again we have more additions for today...
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-13: Quote freedompro Spoolingbit Please update. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 14, 2015, 12:22:35 PM Following the 3 out of 3 constructive posts rule, I've decided to remove uxgpf (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=547729;sa=showPosts) from the list. Please update your lists.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 15, 2015, 05:33:52 AM One more of them for today; please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-15: Quote byzooto Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 17, 2015, 01:11:51 PM I really struggled to add this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=555337;sa=showPosts) to the list, he's definitely ultra bear oriented, but after I reviewed his latest post and his (forbidden) picture on personal posts history, I decided that he belongs here. There probably will be more instances of him. Please update your lists.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-17: Quote trader102 NZWP swipeocrat Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on September 20, 2015, 06:24:11 PM ow28D3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556271)
Created the account just to post FUD on how "satoshi is dumping coins". Source: http://prntscr.com/8ij3ks Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 20, 2015, 06:33:06 PM As proposed by LaudaM, I've added the following user into the List. Please update
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-20: Quote ow28D3 PS: Thanks for the heads up! Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: newIndia on September 21, 2015, 07:18:31 PM ow28D3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556271) More here...Created the account just to post FUD on how "satoshi is dumping coins". Source: http://prntscr.com/8ij3ks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556537 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556528 Please talk about this nonsense in staff forum and see if IP ban can be applied to these guys. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: White sugar on September 21, 2015, 07:50:48 PM ow28D3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556271) More here...Created the account just to post FUD on how "satoshi is dumping coins". Source: http://prntscr.com/8ij3ks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556537 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556528 Please talk about this nonsense in staff forum and see if IP ban can be applied to these guys. Units of evil are applied when an account is banned, ban an IP is problematic because collateral damage is likely to happen, specially if he used public internet or high anonymous proxy. There was already at least 1 report of the wrong people being banned because of some IP being banned(in fact his account appeared as banned in some IPs and he could post normaly with others) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 22, 2015, 01:41:39 PM ow28D3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556271) More here...Created the account just to post FUD on how "satoshi is dumping coins". Source: http://prntscr.com/8ij3ks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556537 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556528 Please talk about this nonsense in staff forum and see if IP ban can be applied to these guys. I've been away for a couple of days, because of my transition from OSX to Ubuntu. So, expect a bit of absence until I figure things out. It was something I really wanted to do and I had some time left so there it is... Two more additions for today. Thanks for the heads up newIndia. Please update your lists: Latest additions to The List as of 2015-09-22: Quote C42Wqz Mg4tc7 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on September 22, 2015, 02:55:50 PM Please talk about this nonsense in staff forum and see if IP ban can be applied to these guys. Actually I've already taken this to the staff forum as an admin will be needed to check and ban them. They occasionally pop up and I've seen 6-7 of them so far. I'll try my best to nuke those posts as soon as possible.Units of evil are applied when an account is banned, ban an IP is problematic because collateral damage is likely to happen, specially if he used public internet or high anonymous proxy. Those situations are very rare though.There was already at least 1 report of the wrong people being banned because of some IP being banned(in fact his account appeared as banned in some IPs and he could post normaly with others) I've been away for a couple of days, because of my transition from OSX to Ubuntu. So, expect a bit of absence until I figure things out. It was something I really wanted to do and I had some time left so there it is... Why have you decided to switch to Ubuntu (just asking; I'm supportive of such as change)? Looks like September is really quiet in comparison to August where there were a lot of members.Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on September 22, 2015, 03:05:31 PM Why have you decided to switch to Ubuntu (just asking; I'm supportive of such as change)? Looks like September is really quiet in comparison to August where there were a lot of members. I'm a tech savvy and like to have a glance at everything technology has to offer. This time though, is different. I've got a Ram upgrade for my Macbook Pro (Mid-2010). It had 8Gb and I went for the 16Gb upgrade. When I installed it the computer booted up normally, even saw the 16gb ram installed on OSX hardware tab. After a couple of minutes it popped! When rebooted I saw the warning screen. A long story short, the 16gb of ram for my model is usable in full only by Ubuntu and/or Windows 10. I left the second option out without a second thought. Windows belong to the past for me and only have to work with a windows pc at work because there's no other option. So, Ubuntu it is. This thing is ultra stable, utilizes both screens via thunderbolt (have the laptop monitor plus a 32" LG one for my presentations & calcs) and I think we have a winner. Bye bye OSX. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on October 01, 2015, 09:37:50 PM There have been a total of 22 additions in September:
Code: Suda123 Quote uxgpf Looks like things have been quiet this month. We have done our best to subdue the 'Bitcoin ponzi' troll and others very nicely this month.So, Ubuntu it is. This thing is ultra stable, utilizes both screens via thunderbolt (have the laptop monitor plus a 32" LG one for my presentations & calcs) and I think we have a winner. Ah you're using a Macbook. I've used Ubuntu back while it was at version ~12. It is quite good indeed. However, I fear that we would be drifting away from the original topic if we continue.Bye bye OSX. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Fatman3001 on November 09, 2015, 02:19:19 PM Problematic
tbnys Likecandy Edit: oh, and yolalanda Problematic tbnys Likecandy Edit: oh, and yolalanda Thanks for the heads up, I'm uber busy at the moment. :) No problem. I'll just put them here so people can see them. !!! insideyoummm wmwmvkdvkd narco_7 Blunderbuzz ibitusera misteryed SomeGuy666 Thank you for removing my stats. :-[ The List looks huge due to the second post (not using code brackets for the alphabetical order). -snip- Even though your input is appreciated I suggest that you do not double post but rather update your posts.Don't worry, I won't bother you again. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on November 09, 2015, 03:10:00 PM Problematic tbnys Likecandy Edit: oh, and yolalanda Thanks for the heads up, I'm uber busy at the moment. :) Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on November 09, 2015, 03:14:16 PM List is being updated constantly, look after 3 posts.
Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on November 09, 2015, 04:55:52 PM The following sockpuppets have been added to The List.
Latest additions to The List as of 2015-11-09: Quote Problematic tbnys Likecandy Yolalanda !!! insideyoummm wmwmvkdvkd narco_7 Blunderbuzz ibitusera misteryed SomeGuy666 Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on November 09, 2015, 05:03:28 PM -snip- Even though your input is appreciated I suggest that you do not double post but rather update your posts.Update: You were not that active and I was busy as well. I shall update as soon as possible. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on November 09, 2015, 05:24:51 PM Thank you for removing my stats. :-[ The List looks huge due to the second post (not using code brackets for the alphabetical order). -snip- Even though your input is appreciated I suggest that you do not double post but rather update your posts.Lauda I removed the stats because they were old, if you want to update them anytime soon please let me know. Thanks for the great job. Edit: Fixed the long list by adding code brackets instead of quotes. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: Lauda on November 10, 2015, 06:46:05 PM Lauda I removed the stats because they were old, if you want to update them anytime soon please let me know. Well technically I couldn't have updated them as there were no additions last month. However, I'll definitely update for November (hopefully I won't forget). Also, the second post looks much better after the fix. Thanks for the great job. Edit: Fixed the long list by adding code brackets instead of quotes. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: macsga on November 10, 2015, 06:54:28 PM Lauda I removed the stats because they were old, if you want to update them anytime soon please let me know. Well technically I couldn't have updated them as there were no additions last month. However, I'll definitely update for November (hopefully I won't forget). Also, the second post looks much better after the fix. Thanks for the great job. Edit: Fixed the long list by adding code brackets instead of quotes. It's alright, I very much appreciate your work so far; I'm thinking to keep it strictly for last couple of months. Beyond that there's no meaning and it's getting a bit chaotic IMHO. The important thing is that others (ie: you, Fatman) have been contributing to this project because both my hands are tighten up to another job at the moment. Title: Re: "THE LIST" Post by: mmitech on December 13, 2015, 06:51:58 PM Ohhhhh I see that I am on the ignore list !!! How come?!! oh yes, I remember.... been accurately calling the price downtrend which didn't seem to please perma-bulls... Well, don't worry, I stopped giving free advice.
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