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is cloudmining.website still exist ???

Unfortunately yes, and their last payment is 27th of April, you can check on their main thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843417.msg11212936#msg11212936. No complain about they are not paying anymore so I assume they are still around here but you might want to go for a deeper search for this one

That Ponzi still exists because it hasn't collected enough funds to run with! They have no proof that they're mining so I better suggest you to take all your money out if possible!

Check the post above you, they re still around but they do not seem to be paying. So what does it matter if they are online or not?

Sorry but I never invest in ponzis like this so I don't have a clear idea if they are paying. It might also be some delay due to technical issues! Because most of the Ponzi shut down their site after they stop paying but this site owner hasn't!

Still exist until now, because there are many users still buy hash rate on that cloud mining service.
many people talk about cloudmining.website is ponzi because they never disclosed their mining equipment, anonymous operator / owner, and offer us referral bonus for affiliate program.
You can read other user opinion in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=852857.240)
Soon or later they will run with customer money, best option here is avoid to invest there

I understand U r whoring for Bit-X, a known SCAM that unable to provide its mining address. But, DO NOT lie so blatantly. The person above Sarthak said CMW is still paying. I'm quoting him and magnifying the relevant portion for your refence.


I have already made ROI with www.CloudMining.website, whereas it is obvious with Bit-X that no one would ROI. Bit-X is simply another AM hash in making. AM Hash also tried its best to take down CMW. Bit-X is trying as well. None of these conspiracies are going to work. CMW is and will keep publishing the payout details and all you scammers will be forgotten to oblivion.

http://www.cloudmining.website/story.php

Enough said, seems so dodgy, not to mention the site domain and even layout has no effort put into it.

I don't think Bit-x is scam but I didn't think that hashie would do this either! I find all of these online mining sites fishy except cex.io,bit-x,stakeminers etc. I think they're not a Ponzi and they wouldn't end in a bad way! They may be less profitable but I don't think they will scam! Anyways in the Bitcoin scenario many trusted companies and individuals have proven out to be a scam, so why not bit-x? Its always good to invest what you can afford to loose no matter how legitimate the company is! Anyways I have never invested in any cloud mining sites because I see most of them usually turn out to be a scam/Ponzi :)

Your post is full of I think & I dont think. Business is not about that. Business is all about proof. CMW provides payment proof on blockchain for last six months, whereas Bit-x and other so called legitimate ones provide none. Bit-x is even unable to provide mining address. With the only certificate this service is showing everywhere is a vouch from Bitfury. No one knows on earth what is the deal between them. Like we will never know what was the deal between hashie and AsicMiner. In bitcoin world, only trust the blockchain.

https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=23728.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845995.0

CMW doesn't show any proof that they're mining! Clear Ponzi! If you don't believe me just wait and see :)

And my post has lot of I think and I don't think because I simply think a lot about what I think and what I don't think and I will be one of the Great Thinkers Of The World :D

Yes! I agree! In the Bitcoin World Only Trust Blockchain :D

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

No performance does not guarantee any results.

Here is today's payment from CMW => https://blockchain.info/tx/28e6d2c842b000dc58464d47c4502c3bb0ec47fd7d73998cb50606c9d929b6d4

Check the last six month's payment @ www.cloudmining.website/payments.php

Not a single week has been missed.

So it is not dead? It s still paying?

In fact they never missed a payout in last six months.

No point in explaining anything to Bit-X shills.

But you could try... Don't give up just yet. Maybe we'll switch if you convince us with arguments that you got better company and service :D

From what I've seen around here, those who accuse others of being/having shills are usually the only ones that have/are shills.

Don't forget PBMining.

Not only it exists over half a year now, it is also verified by a third party to give ROI within 114 days...

http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/03/02/cmmonitor1.png

Source: www.cmmonitor.com/24-cloudmining-website.html

'Verified'. ROI can never be guaranteed as with any site. Payments aren't even guaranteed with this site too.

Since last six months we, the miners at CMW, are hearing this story. First to complain was PB mining. Next Hashie. Next AM hash trolls. Now Bit-X shills. We have already seen what happened to the first three and we know what is going to happen to this last one... LoLz :D

Still paying: https://blockchain.info/tx/4907bffc24318a8e2fa1047762f439c28b4a3a7eb221e5560d469d762dbab323

It is incredible that even after paying every week on time for seven months continuously, people still dare to question their authenticity.

Even more incredible that people can't see the difference between paying and mining.

This is how you know it is a ponzi. Pretty much any ponzi promoter will say that payouts prove legitimacy, when all it really proves is that the operator is (at that time) willing and able to pay out funds.

That is true for a short time, when old investor's payout can be covered by new investor's investment. But, CMW is running for seven months now. At the rate they started selling their hashes, they'd have run out of fund within three months, unless they could get new users at a huge rate or difficulty rise went in favour of them. But, their payment proofs show that users did not massively increase. Nor the difficulty rise was huge in last seven months. Hence continuous payment of seven months is only possible if they are mining.

No. Ponzis can run this longer too when people advertise about it.

Another payment: https://blockchain.info/tx/3e700b93062afd5b2453c1718a396af5e1544ae3786755318279560a38569612

Seven months completed. What we paid long back has long been covered and I am heading towards double profit. But, according to you, it is not coming from bitcoin mining. So it must be God's gift :D

I think it's actually a ponzi as far as I remember  ::)

payments are not a sign of authenticity and any cloud mining ponzi can pay their customers due to the fact that the returns are so low

Remember !!! ::)

So, now people need to remember things to identify a Ponzi :D

Get your facts right man...

Yes it has been exposed as ponzi numerous times, was in disputes about who copied who regarding the website or email to customers (can't remember exactly..), and this cloudmining.website was a participant in all that shit, so people know it stinks, but sometimes can't recreate the source and technicalities, but they remember to not risk their money in this..

Does anyone else find it odd that the many people (it must be many people to support the site) that pay them a premium for fresh coins read this forum and are able to vouch for them?

Coz it seems that this cloud ponzi websites have made their early investors happy and have been able to ROI.. so yeah they will support it until the candle fire will go off..

So, now your demand is those who are buying fresh coins for anonymity will jump in and start vouching for CMW that they got freshly mined coins from them. Insane people we are talking to here :D

Actually almost all of their customers have posted in the main thread complaining that they are being shafted on payouts. Out of their 11 real customers, 7 have reported being ripped off.

It's likely every real customer is receiving the same shitty payouts and the people promoting/defending this scam are shill accounts. You'll notice that their post history is pretty much 100% promoting/defending this scam.

Let me reply you by quoting the post of another cloud mining company where I am mining. All of them are facing the same problem...


tl;dr: People generally do not report when miners are giving excelent return and payouts are good. They only surface when miners are underperforming and payouts turn bad.

Those two cloud mining providers are ponzis. It is so simple.

Any specific reason of your silence behind Bit-X inability to show their mining address so far ? ::)

I was not shutting my mouth.

I will be asking this to BIT-X soon. If they couldn't provide it, I will most probably remove BIT-X signature. For now, Bit Fury's post is enough.

Soon! When ? After they vanish in the thin air like FriedCat ? BitFury's 1 Phs commitment is enough ? Really ? How much Bit-X is selling ? Do you have any data ?

Your friend said this two months ago...


Frankly, I dont see any difference between Bit-X and CloudThink.io. Both are being madly promoted by people for a few bucks.

p.s. Now, please dont reply to me from any Alt or start another pointless rant about CMW to save Bit-X's ass. If you dont have a logical response to the specific Q I have asked, please stay mum and let people know that you are another hypocrite in the crowd.

ASAP.


I can't answer that. FriedCat was reputable and he scammed or it ay have been a planned/long con scam.


ATM yes.


No.


Who said Marco is my friend?


Well, that's probably because you promote a ponzi. ::)


Believe it or not, I only use this account.


I am not saving anyone here but your CMW is obvious ponzi which doesn't even meet your requirements and still you are promoting.


Thanks!

Soon, ASAP are actually words scammers use for buying time. Bitcoiners have learnt it over time from Hashie, AM hash etc. Seems you have the info when Bit-X is winding up. No ?



FriedCat was not reputable. He was backed by people who enjoy abusing DefaultTrust's green blessing. I pointed out that many times (Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888960.0). Today Bit-X is backed by almost same range of people (including you).



You just showed what a grand hypocrite you are. You have no idea how much Bit-X is selling, but you are still backing Bit-X because BitFury said 1 Phs is guaranteed. You are intentionally overlooking the fact that with this extravagant ads across the boards, Bit-X is inadvertently overselling 1 Phs.



You...



I promote what honors my time the best on this forum directly and through referral. Till date CMW-Pesobang combo has worked the best. But, you are acting blind because you are knowingly promoting a scam and trying to buy time for it.



I am least concerned about that.



CMW meet my criteria...

1. They never said something will be shown/proven soon/ASAP. They showed what they can show from day 1 and explained why they can not show the rest from day 1. I like absolutely no-nonsense business pitch.

2. They never gave out free hash power to attract cheap traffic. Free Hash power =  No Hash power. They offered cheap hash power.

3. Most importantly, if they were Ponzi, they could not sustain seven months with so little advertisement.

Interestingly, you missed the fact that I promote other Cloud Minings as well in various threads, who are actually CMW's competitor, just because I wear a certain signature.



Welcome! :)

How was he not reputable? You do realize how many coins he paid out in the early days right? Shareholders who trusted him early made coins hand over fist before the trust system was even around.

Remember, ASAP is for me. It is not meant for all.

No. I don't have any info about their winding up(if they are).


Lying or joking? :-\


Can you please explain what do you mean by "backed up"?


I am not supporting BIT-X, instead, I think it is legit.


Prove it.


So talking means being friend? Then we all are friends here. ::)


Thought so.


I have no problem with Pesobang, only with CMW and other ponzis.


Just said as you requested not to post from an alt.


I have not followed closely but I think what you said is true.


But they didn't show what they need to show.


So CMW's excuses are not nonsense? Hmm... Their excuses for not showing any details about data centres or mining are BS.


This is the worst criteria I have ever heard of. No offence. You do know ponzis go for this all time?


It was not so little because investors advertised in this forum and other websites and besides, little advertisement cost from their side means long durability for their ponzi.

Are you trying to tell me that if a site has been paying out for some months, they can't be ponzi? :-\ Don't forget PBMining.


Sorry if I have missed anything but interestingly, almost all of them are ponzis.

In the mean time, another payment from www.cloudmining.website...

https://blockchain.info/tx/381521b694a80a13e26bf7e0973d8716cb128f0374b6aacd80ae42501f481180

...close to eight months now. No delay. No problem. :)

More coins that aren't freshly mined, obviously not a concern to people who want to mine bitcoins.

What do you expect from an alt account shill of cloudmining.website owner? ;) Notice that he is not using a signature campaign, not even using a ref link to his scam site, posts exactly same post in different threads for shilling spam reasons... And pays to himself for a cloudmining.website sig campaign on his main account lol :D

The cloud mining ponzi saga continues. It's a shame that these people just set something up, collect funds and then disappear with little to no repercussions.

Please list out cloud mining companies, those are giving out freshly mined coins.

Hashnest
KNC
Gethashing
BW

Those are just a few I know of off hand because they provide proof upfront. I'm sure there are a few others you could find by tracing the payments but I don't waste my money on cloudmining so I couldn't tell you.

BTW, you I mean Cloudmining.website will have to come up with a new bullshit excuse for why you they can't provide proof of mining because surely nobody will be "paying a premium for freshly mined coins" when they can buy them for a huge discount from an actually trustworthy company. https://hedgy.co/mining.html

I don't know or care, but all the one's that are mining would be doing it, and the fact that this one isn't should give you a clue to what is happening here. If you're ok with that, that's fine, but don't be shocked when they run out of coins to pay you with, just like people that are using a site that pays fresh coins shouldn't be shocked when difficulty increases mean their payments will stop.

At least the difficulty can be guesstimated and may not go up forever, ponzis WILL run out of coins eventually.

Among the ones you have listed, Hashnest is most likely a good one. KNC cloud has already gone belly up. I dont know whether Gethashing or BW offer cloud mining solution. So, please provide proper links where they provide freshly mined coins...

Also, never heard of hedgy. Is it another venture of yours like HaveLock ?

Why is it that you know absolutely everything about cloudmining.website, yet you can't do research and/or are not interested in any other cloudmining company? (rhetorical question)


Funny how you, RussianRainbow, SpanishSoldier, and GermanGiant are the only "people" who accuse me of working for Havelock, the only "people" who misspell Havelock with a capital L, and the only "people" who post exclusively about this particular ponzi. Totally not all the same shill.

Hedgy is providing freshly mined coins on behalf of Megabigpower, one of the few legit/trustworthy companies in the world of bitcoin mining. They had a bitcoin IPO for a 100TH/s farm and were one of the only bitcoin securities that managed to pay back IPO investors more than the IPO price per share.

They started with 100 TH/s and are now at 100 times that (10 PH/s).

Why would anyone believe that CMW is selling freshly mined coins for a premium when this trustworthy company (MBP) is selling them for a discount?

Definitely I was skeptical about them at the beginning and hence asked the forum about them. Then I tried them out with small amount and thereby they gained my trust. Slowly I increased my investment up to a certain point and was never disappointed. In the mean time I saw so many highly hyped services to collapse. Now it is 6+ months I am with them and certainly got back more than I invested. So, normally I know more about them than most of the nay-sayers on this forum.


I asked for links to prove your claim. Not story telling. I know you & Puppet are great at that which caused thousands of people to cost millions of dollar in AM hash scam.

And they paid again...

blockchain.info/tx/ebffcc6a3ec7f8519dc68221eac4a83848a2b43f38c4404564397d0fe0747623

While the 'reputable' KNC cloud, CEX.io, AM hash disappointed everyone... this low profile cloud mining service keeps delivering month after month.

Nine months on. The story continues... :)

I'm not interested in this cloud mining controversy, but interested in the freshly mined coins at discounted price. So just trying to understand Hedgy's business. Say, they are giving 1% discount. So, if I send them 1 BTC used coin, they'll give me 1.01 BTC fresh coin ? I mean, how come ? How do they do business ?

...and they paid again.

https://blockchain.info/tx/1539624fa07e06e8af949c9950870f9bedbc297f31b33406dd65944af5f32d06

Do you seriously think Jimmy has any intention to give you any proper explanation ? He is paid to troll CMW threads. That is what he is doing. Just ignore him.

That's not how it works. You pay USD for BTC. They can give a discount because it let's them avoid selling on the exchanges which would crash the price.

I see... that's interesting. But, does not it require them to have an MSB or some sort of exchange license to do this ?

do not ever touch that service.
i got scammed from cloud mining ponzi for 2 times, none of the payout at the first time!
this is just ponzi, they decreased the price to attract people to buy until they gained enough.

that IPO is open-ended.

people think if site is paying and been around for a few months means they are legit... those 2 are just a few to consider before trusting them with your bitcoins. theres more to ask to prove their legitimacy

Depends on where they are located at. If they are located in a country, where bitcoin is not frowned upon, then those are not required.

Take for example PBMining, they are around for a year until they execute their scam. I agree that most of the cloudmining services that pop in the web are ponzi schemes and don't have the equipment to do hashing, but we don't need to do an all-out campaign against such a service when we could easily distinguish a scam from what is not. To see whether a cloudmining service is there to stay and not just some other ponzi scheme, take a calculator. Check on how your earnings are made and calculate the actual money you can make if you own the hardware. Less all those service/electricity or whatever fee was in there in that cloud mining service and you could actually see if they are honest on what they advertise or not.

There are still legit cloudmining sites out there (afaik, there are only 2) which you can use to try and make money. Not all of them are scam, but most are.

Which are the two that you are talking about ?

There are none. Not a single cloud mining will tell you their sold hash power and mining address. Having some miner or hash power does not prove anything. All of them are involved in partial reserve mining. The day they'll stop making profit out of your investment, the day they'll close the door.

Missing the payout since yesterday, anyone else too  ;D

I got my delayed payment...

https://blockchain.info/tx/830fec49806e5e5694d9139442a30915c1ef60a92d9ce026ff6914ccff538d2f

Jope, me too  ::)