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I am 90% sure that the user "EhVedadooAnonimato" in this forum is Satoshi.
If so, we have here some evidence that Satoshi speaks Portuguese.
He writes Portuguese in a way that Google translate wouldn't.
I keep looking for clues on his 665 posts. Just before reaching 666 posts... :)
Anyway, he must be a rich bitcoiner, considering he was so close to the core developers in the development subsection, so close to the inner circle, back in 2011... Such knowledgeable bitcoiner that was posting back in 2011 must be a rich bitcoiner. And he was so protective of his identity, always using Tor. Appearing two months after the last Satoshi words, out of nothing but already very knowledgeable of it all. It can only be Satoshi, IMHO. But it seems he got afraid of using this identity. I guess is because he knows this knowledge would ultimately be able to track him.
We have something here, don't you think? I have said it before, but I insist: this must have been Satoshi!!! I'm pretty sure...

Does anyone remember talking with him on IRC? I mean, someone with such nickname handle??

Never heard of this guy before and cant seem to find his profile. What's his UID? i want to read his post history, seems interesting. Any worth noting quotes that would make you think it was satoshi? at this point it's just speculation tho, unless he said something that gave it away too much.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20236 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20236)

It seems the same username is being used on github also since 2011, and was active on it two months ago.

I don't see it (yet), can you elaborate a bit more on why you assume this profile to be used by the same guy behind the satoshi profile?

It seems you created the same topic six months ago => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=853973.0

1) He starts posting in 2011, two months after Satoshi's last words.
In his first post he says that he was around one year before, so since 2010.
Why does he introduce himself as someone that has been around since 2010, in 2011, two months after Satoshi disappears?

2) How could such a bright guy, always using Tor, and posting relevant things on the Development forum, be so elusive?

3) In one of his posts he mentions the difference between American and British English, comparing it to the difference between Portuguese from Portugal and Portuguese from Brazil.

There is no one on this forum that makes me think more, with the things he says, what I imagine Satoshi could say.
It is really striking. It is very literary dude and very knowledge of all sorts of things Satoshi would.

Anyway, I know this is not convincing. But read his posts and tell me if it is not striking.
I can't help it but think that either he is Satoshi or is doing it on purpose to look like him.
It is really difficult for me to explain. But intuitively, I have no doubts. I would say that he is 90% likely to be Satoshi. I think I would put 95% of the users on this forum on the 0-20% chances of being Satoshi.

Here, the profile is very high for that. That is all that I am saying.

Anyway, I am sure Satoshi is who I say he is. I am even more sure of that, than of this.
But that is another story. I could be wrong, but I'm not.
You may disbelieve me because I am, indeed quite crazy and have not much credit here.
But I have no doubt. I got to know the real Satoshi in this life time and know who he is. A genius, of course.

Time will prove me right; I have no doubt.

A random thinks some other random is Satoshi.

Must be true.

it could be a stunt by the op to make him famous to make money out of it?

Op's crazy speculation would have to take a 180 degree turn to become a scam. Don't be ridiculous (for now).  :D

Based on the below quote between him and Gavin saying he can't code C++ makes me pretty darn certain this isn't satoshi.

Same here. Never see posts made by this particular user before. Look like if I came back in August I might be able to meet him. Sound interesting.

Even we can sure the user "EhVedadooAnonimato" is Satoshi himself, we still didn't know the real identity of Satoshi.

Do you really believe that a guy with his knowledge of computer systems security, that seems to be mining with GPUs since 2010 couldn't code in C++? I don't. That statement seems to me just to outwit us.
He also somehow pretends to be Brazilian, but I'm pretty sure he is our Portuguese Satoshi, well versed in all the languages subtleties.
The way he pretends to be Brazilian and not Portuguese is very clear to me.
I think he wanted to browse a lot the Portuguese subsection but thought he would be more disguised if he passed as being Brazilian.

That nick was borrowed from the 5th article of Brazilian Constitution (4th item), probably with the intention of satirizing it.

Yeah, well, it would also seem that your boy seems to prefer Monero now....
https://forum.getmonero.org/user/EhVedadoOAnonimato (https://forum.getmonero.org/user/EhVedadoOAnonimato)

His profile pics (both here and Monero forums) are very interesting.
It's a way of either saying: Can't speak or keep your mouth shut.

Take your pick.  ;)

LOL!
Brazillian!!!!

No wonder the OP couldn't translate EhVedadooAnonimato's Portuguese to English...  ::) ::)

"The manifestation of thought is free, being forbidden the anonimity."

The person behind that nick is mockering about this article.

So wait...
If I understand correctly, they are saying that:
You can express your thought's freely, as long as you don't do it anonymously.

Is that correct?

What is this here? A monero fan boy promotion using some famous names?

What is the chance that he/she might be married or engaged to a Portuguese women/man, who translates some of his/her posts?

If I was Satoshi, I would deliberately throw curve balls like these to keep people off my track. {Saying things like, I cannot code C++ etc...}

He/she is such a brilliant individual or group... anything is possible.  ;)

Unfortunately Theymos is giving people way too much freedom here. These threads are starting to become annoying and should be punishable. I wonder, does the ignore list have a limit as one has to add tens of people daily?

These threads are useless. You can only speculate which is pointless. If you're a person who does pointless things to waste his time, fine. Just don't waste everyone else's time in the process. Unless you find hard proof (which you won't), you can claim nothing.
Let Satoshi in peace.

i don't agree, he has not the same writing style of satoshi, satoshi usually don't make question, he always answering one or raise some good technicals statments

just compare the writing style

also there is no reason to think that satoshi is still here between us, i think he have finished his job here, that was introducing bitcoin to everyone

Even if he is satoshi what are we supposed to do about it? Make him confess and ask him about the holy grail method to actually hack and control the network. I don't know why the paranoia about finding satoshi seems to be gaining momentum lately but I can't seem to grasp and understand the motive behind it. Can you explain?

There is certainly a lot of charm in being kept a secret mystery but the fragrance of a living Master like him is definitely not to be missed, IMHO.
There is so much in a genius like him that is not to be missed...
For me it would be like missing a great spiritual teacher like Jesus or Buddha.
Or missing a great genius like Albert Einstein or Richard Feynman...
I can't help but think the world would be better with this mystery solved and his fragrance being appreciated by us all.

Meanwhile, it's not easy for me to have this position.
It's a tough one, for sure.
But I don't regret it. I'm proud of my position in revealing him.

It made me think twice and read more of his posts, and it seems that this certain user is very knowledgeable on different subject areas. He also seems to know some core developers personally that it's giving me a hint that certain devs are within his inner circle. However, the Satoshi that we know isn't engaging in some flaming discussion that might end him "insulting" the other one who's stressing a wrong point. Take a look at this one:


The user is interesting, tbh, because he almost got the same writing style and knowledge (???) as Satoshi (well, the Satoshi we know). His knowledge in economics and certain fields are almost on par with that of Satoshi's. Idk but it could be possible. Who cares anyways? Let Satoshi be Satoshi forever.

We might as well accuse everybody that signed up in that period and became active in talking about the direction to take to be satoshi. :P

well anyone could be satoshinakamoto here in this forum and no one can really tell
maybe he has already saw this post and made a comment :D

Yes, but can you indicate us any other user that fits so much Satoshi profile as this? I would like to see which other users you can come up with that matched a Satoshi profile as much as this one...

Freedom of speech but not to spam, however like you know ... use the ignore function ;). The OP is only curious but this is not a bitcoin discussion, so I think the thread should be moved in an appropriate section.

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OP, I do no think EhVedadoOAnonimato is satoshi.

I still can't see how the rising numbers of threads like these are useful for discussing around... As many said before, Satoshi wants to remain anonymous for a reason. Let's just leave him in the shadows. Besides, EhVedadooAnonimato doesn't even seem to be Satoshi, at least for me. Back in the days, not only Satoshi was knowledgeable about Bitcoin...

I get the point that "This is Satoshi" threads are quite annoying, but if you look at some of the posts of EhVedadoOAnonimato, you might even think that the user is in fact Satoshi. If you look into the user's post history, some of the posts are very striking and remarkable and sometimes, remind me of how Satoshi writes his replies. Idk if this is just a feat of the user to resemble Satoshi's style of writing or this is the same man behind Satoshi. Whatever the case is, let it be. Satoshi doesn't want to be bothered in the first place, that's why he tried so hard to keep his anonymity.

Wait, he also has a few posts in French.

Here is one of them:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36147.msg480053#msg480053 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=36147.msg480053#msg480053)

So, what does that mean if he could also converse in French? There could be a blood of French, Portuguese, and British in his identity. That is not uncommon to happen.

so this riddle has been solved now you found Satoshi's secret profile on this forum but i dont think that is solved even the writting style of this person is very simillar to the the Satoshi, i have doubt about this can be Satoshi.

His French aren't that good:


Translation: Please excuse my poor French.

But why would Satoshi want to have an alt account' I've been looking at the post history, and he never said anything special that would require an alternative account.

OH!

Now I get it....

The OP is obsessed about finding Satoshi.
Check out his signature:


OP, you need to relax a bit.  ;)

who is António Franco Alexandre？

Because creating an alt account would actually help him do his job as satoshi without being noticed by anyone. If a person would like to hide his/her identity, he/she would do everything to hide his/her trails--whether it is to create several identities or lower his/her activities, it's his/her choice.

People just want to find him because some people think that he should have all the credit for introducing bitcoin to the world but he choose to be anonimous himself because he think that what he created could be dangerous for him if he does not stay that way


And there is google translate to help you with the translation to french

I think the OP is talking about his forum account (here at bitcointalk.org).



I think:


More info here : http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_Franco_Alexandre  (Portuguese language).

A kind of Richard Feynman with a level of knowledge that defeats explanation.
A genius. A very elegant and intelligent man with a very tender sense of humour.
Definitely an extremely high IQ, well versed in the mastery of languages,
(Portuguese, Spanish, French, Italian, English, but also a bit of German and Hebraic...)
Found of the Japanese culture; a libertarian and progessist; a very modern intellectual.
A very sensible man, with a very centered heart.
A bright mathematician that finds Fermat's theorem and its proof fascinating; that finds gold, water, sun and moon fascinating. In a word, Satoshi.
The kind of intelligence that would learn the fundamentals of C++, to the level of knowledge of Bjarne Stroustrup, the creator of C++, in a weekend or two...
A guy that is always surprising you by how much he knows, and that will know that it is Roberto Benigni you mean, and not Noam Chomsky or William Gibson or John Searl or Bertrand Russell or John Travolta or Donald Trump or Rupert Murdoch or Warren Buffet. Who else? Satoshi.
Literally, there is nothing you can throw at him that he doesn't already know. The real dad... Uncle Sam!

A fascinating man.

By the way you described him, it seems that you are very fond of him to know some details about him. The wikipedia page doesn't state anything about the details you've just put in here. He's a linguist, if he mastered several languages. But how can we link this certain man to Satoshi, given that we only have limited knowledge about Satoshi himself?

Yes, he is definitely quite knowledgeable about linguistics, modern formal logic and stuff.
Among many other things like Ethics, Economics and world affairs.
A bit like Noam Chomsky, I would say, but more of a mathematician, able to go deep into Modern Algebra and stuff.
He doesn't have made any contributions to cryptography but he certainly can go much deeper into it than 99.9% of the people can.
This is a guy with an IQ of 195, that studied Mathematics at Harvard in the 60's.
There is no way he doesn't understand 99% of Satoshi's whitepaper. That's simply impossible to believe, for me, at least.

I really have no doubts he is Satoshi and I know that time will prove me right.

Idk if this reasons and statements are enough to link this certain man to Satoshi. I mean, come on. As I've said before, we aren't even that familiar to the identity of Satoshi; we only got a clue of who he is by the way he posts and talks about different matters, but that's all. Heck, we don't even know whether this is a group of people or a single individual after all.

I don't think that guy is ehvedadooanonimato. After reading many of his posts I am very inclined (not to say certain) he is brazilian, not portuguese. Some things also make me guess he is from São Paulo to be more accurate.
The way he writes + what he writes + his nickname + knowledge on brazilian laws and small things such as ICMS, Nota Fiscal paulista etc make me nearly certain he is brazilian. On the other hand timestamp is more correlated to a person from portugal with regular sleep pattern, unless he is a night person or gets up very early like many people.
I am sorry but judging from the way you flauntly write about him, makes it seem you are antonio yourself.

Ehvedado does not double space ponctuate like satoshi.
Satoshi wants to stay anonymous and these discussions don't take us anywhere.

Yes, you are right and it makes perfect sense to think he 'ehvedadooanonimato' is brazilian, from São Paulo, but then again if he is the Satoshi I have in mind, quite interested in world affairs and stuff, wouldn't be hard to believe he reads publications like "Revista Veja" magazine.
Back in that time, he would only need to read an article like http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/economia/nota-fiscal-paulistana-comeca-a-valer-hoje/ (http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/economia/nota-fiscal-paulistana-comeca-a-valer-hoje/)
to get to grips with convincingly seem Brazilian.
I get your point, but you have to consider all angles since we are talking of such an elusive man as Satoshi.

Perhaps you have created this in response to the NYT article that points to Nick Szabo (and fair enough if so).

But in any case what exactly is the point of your "poll" as you surely realise that any "poll" on this forum is 100% rubbish (as the outcome will be controlled by sockpuppets)?

Quite so; I think I was ignited by that.

The poll was just to make the topic more interesting and engaging; I knew it wouldn't be telling much.

I don't believe for one second in the Nick Szabo being Satoshi theory, indeed.
But bitcoin name was certainly inspired by 'bit gold' name I reckon. It is a bit of 'digicash' and a bit of 'bitgold' name, I guess, with the subtle irony that the ledger makes this new form of money 'thingness' very different from the physical and tangible coins we are used to.

Once my uncle, I think this was around 1997, was telling me:
"The real thing is focusing on something that really prevails everyone's affairs.", and he asked, "what do you think is that one think you could be studying that affects everyone's life?"
I was a young man studying Electrical Engineering at that time, and I answered promptly, a bit proud of myself, "Electricity, of course."
Another time he asked me what was the one things that I would be able to teach our ancients if I could go back in time. What would be the revealing and enlightening things I could bring there with me, with the knowledge I got from our time.

These are the kind of little things that make me think my uncle is Satoshi. And the more I think of it the more it makes sense. It makes it all look much more than plausible, it simply leaves me without any doubt that could only been him.

I know this will sound really delusional; but one day I am sure you will all acknowledge that I was right, and that my certainty was not as trivial as it may seem.

There's nothing that points to satoshi in a clear way after evaluating his posts. None of what he said compromised satoshi if he said exactly the same under his main account, therefore, there are no reasons to believe this was a satoshi alt.

Yes, in theory you can't do this anonymously, although the general public doesn't care (and putting a nick which means "it's forbidden the anonimity" clearly show this).

Anyway in 2014 an called Secret was banned in Brazil exactly for being anonymous (and combined with the bad use of people were doing of it).

LOL. And I'm 100% sure the guy is not.

He cant be him because the patern of their posts are not the same

Satoshi posts

https://i.imgur.com/EUCHjnO.png

and his posts

https://i.imgur.com/MJOiyG1.png

Satoshi has a unique post pattern that can't compare to anyone. You can see almost zero post in some hours of the day and a very activity in others. I think his post pattern is the key to find and his real id. And this pattern i see a man from Europe. He cant be from Usa or Asia.

I'm no expert on the topic but the easiest assumption to come to would be that he had some stable sleep/work schedules.

And a stable sleep/work mean that he is not a developer

I am sure that Ehbeda is not satoshi. Too many people posting BS and saying oh its him no its this person no darn it maybe this person. Only way for anyone to find out who really sotish is, is by sotish coming back on bitcointalk and posting or a public announcement in some private location of him proving he is the real satoshi.

Wow.  The two most popular poll results are the least and the greatest percentages.  I was tending towards it is not him but I no not know much about the user in question.

I think satoshi's post patterns were consistent with someone who was devoting a certain part of his day towards a particular activity. It could have been that he was working at a certain time (at his place of employment), it could have been that he devoted certain hours to building the Bitcoin code, it could have been that he was maintaining a very strict sleep schedule, it could have been that his family's schedule mandated that he needed to spend time with them at a certain part of the day. Whatever this commitment was could have changed/gone away over the past 4 years so I don't think a posting time analysis is going to give very much information.

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I really do not think the facts in the OP would lead a reasonable person to believe that EhVedadooAnonimato is satoshi

Eh, polls in bitcointalk recently hasn't been that much reliable because sockpuppet accounts mainly contribute to these things. EhVedadoOAnonimato pulled up a nice feat on being that "Satoshi" dude which made OP think that it's him. Whatever the case, we aren't close in getting the real identity behind Satoshi because Satoshi doesn't want to expose himself in the first place. If so, he could've done that in the past.

Not even close to satoshi's style.

I've only begun to look at this, but am I the only one who noticed that though this user stopped posting just before 666 posts, his "Activity" score is 616 which is supposedly the "true number" of the wild beast?  
  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/616_%28number%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/616_%28number%29)  
  
For someone who enjoys hiding references and symbols, this is quite amusing and clever.  It also suggests that this account was used as long as intended, and then discarded at a self-decided time.
  
Also, I advise against you all militantly trying to hunt down the user/users/group who used the Satoshi acronym.  Whoever he/she/they were, they were obviously some of the most intelligent humans alive, and went to extraordinary and extremely well thought out measures to protect their identity.  There is a lot of interesting connections that can be made if you do the proper research, but this information is best kept to yourself.  
  
This is a secret that is meant to stay secret, and the results of such 'investigation' will surely never be good.  What if you definitely find a list of names who were 'Satoshi'?  What then?  At best, you have damaged bitcoin and cryptocurrency by linking it to an individual, when cryptocurrency is an ideal that is supposed to transcend any one of us individually.  
  
At worst?  You have failed, and pissed off some very well connected and powerful people.  
 
Also, many of you are making a fool of yourself.  What is that?  A chart showing the posting frequency and times when 'Satoshi' most often posted? 
 
You think one of the smartest, paranoid, and ingenious game theorists and mathematicians of our time didn't anticipate this data being used against him one day?  I would question almost any 'clues' you find, as the likelyhood of them being false flags is so great that it is difficult to draw any decent conclusions from such finds.

It seems that he's obsessed with that user. Either way, what would happen if he's satoshi really?

But there is more. This gets really interesting. I used to send him emails to antonio.f.alexandre@clix.pt. I know as a matter of fact that he received my emails although he never replyed to them. He once told my mum that he used to receive my emails. Some interesting ones and some quite crazy. But the really interesting stuff is that one of my last emails to him was a link to a blog post that was talking about some p2p money that was out there. This was in 2009!!!
Unfortunately I dont have the link of that blog post but would be really interesting for me to prove that I got to know about p2p money back in 2009 when I was studying Computer Science and finding it sufficently interesting to send an email to my dear uncle forwarding him the link of that blog post where p2p money was being discussed.
After that, surprisingly enough, the emails I sent him would always bounce back so I gave up sending him emails or trying to contact him ever since.
But I only entered bitcoin world in August 2011 when Ray Kurzweil posted about it on the AI-news mailing-list.

See the email address mentioned at:
http://cienciapt.net/pt/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81114&Itemid=298
Goos luck in trying contacting him and keeping us posted.

Believe it or not. It is true.

Wait.....
So now he is your uncle?
And you are posting his and your email to prove what?

And you knew about p2p money back in 2009?

Man, what are you trying to do?
Are you trying to make yourself (and your uncle) look important?

I don't get what you 're trying to do, but your trolling is unbelievable (literally - I don't believe it)

Sunglasses are an important accessory for reducing sun damage.

what about satoshi is actually Gavin, and he create the satoshi account first, then his real account just to sidetrack we all

their writing style isn't that different, but i guess every writting style about technical aspects would look the same

I think that has been said before but was extremely debated.
Search the forums, there's quite a few threads about it.

If this wasn't enough prepare... Sit down and have a deep breath...

Ready?!

When bitcoin lauched I was in Italy, on hollidays.
I had spare time and wrote an article about currencies with a very trippy and visionary banknote image.
See the blog post here:
http://velocidadedaresposta.blogs.sapo.pt/7375.html

Look at the date of that blog post, my username handle, and tell me how odd?
I'm not Satoshi but have been using bicomplex and bichoverde for ages.

And Ihave a very odd patent about digital money tokens that was registered before bitcoin.

So I guess I make a really good case for being close the source...

So, now, can I get your attention when I say I know who is Satoshi?

So lets get to the point then, who is he?

I am waiting for Satoshi's p2pfoundation account to become active now and post:

"I am not EhVedadooAnonimato"

Isn't it possible that satoshi stopped posting suddenly because he died ?

Or was thrown in a dungeon by the banksters.


 or maybe he forgot his login!

Then little thing like that may change the bitcoin price

they said i could be anything so i become EhVedadooAnonimato