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I dont think he will scam you, you probably need to have patience, he has done a lot of trades recently if you look at his trust history, you can also see this

''He took ages because of some problems he had but so far he is a nice guy. He is hones but you might need to push him.''

Seems like he is slow sometimes but im pretty sure you will get your money back.

As he sent you a PM, Maidak can't deny it. Else, he could easily deny it.

His password is changed. Why didn't you ask a signed message from him? Let's wait for him to reply.

Yes, he is honest, but it seems he dont know how to remind or hold appointments. I had to more than push him. Actually i threatened him to open a scam accusation thread in 7 days from that time. Thats what worked at the end.  ::)

Its a pity that he doesnt seem to get things handled fast. You dont want to know how long i waited. "Several days" are a joke against that.

There was an incident with killyou72 not long ago where he was sent fait money and it took a long time (> a week - maybe >2 weeks) to get the bitcoin to him. He had claimed that there was some issue with his bank. Killyou72 even went as far as to try to borrow against the money that he was owed in the lending section, although AFAIK the loan never materialized.

Another interesting factoid about the above incident is that, according to killyou72, maidak was unable to provide any kind of signed message when asked by killyou72. I was considering to fill the above loan, however would have required to have a signed message from maidak to ensure that his account was not hacked, but killyou72 had claimed that he was previously unable to get one.

I too got the idea that maidak could have been sold as an account though when i got in contact with him it sounded plausible. Problems with his skrill account and other things. To be exact i waited one and a half month nearly. And at the end i was paid by some business partner of his, on his behalf, and he paid him for that. So i took it as if his skrill account still was damaged and thats why it took ages.

Besides that, pm... pretty useless, he suggested email, i believe one answer, then useless, then skype... i requested being added numerous times, not happened. At the end i really went that far to use my phone... didnt anticipate that. But at least he reacted better on SMS then.

Anyway... my warning stands... i would not trade with him anymore when im not ready to wait a long time. He really need to fix things. Really. The work i invested only to get my money was really not worth it. Better pay some percent more and save the trouble.

Though maybe he gets things fixed soon. I hope since he sounds like a nice guy.

Left negative feedback, hopefully others will be more careful. Had done multiple trades with Maidak in the past and all went smooth but lately he seems to having issues. Shouldn't take 2 weeks or almost 2 months to complete a trade.

I would also be careful dealing with the OP. If you're trading BTC for PayPal or PayPal my cash cards, make sure they are being bought by someone trusted and not just resold cards or paid directly from his PayPal account. Otherwise there is a good chance you will get man in the middled which makes a chargeback or reversal much more likely.

Well that was a surprise. I'd expected to see made up / flimsy claims but they seem to be reasonable even if OP did jump on the "STOP SCAMMING ME" slightly prematurely.

You need a bit more patience, that's all.

Not when Maidak keeps delaying and coming up with another excuse like those Skype screenshots are showing. Not the first time he's kept someone waiting recently either, other guy had to wait several weeks.

One hour has turned into days. Not sure how much patience I would have left either.

I remember Maidak saying he doesn't trade over Skype and to use live chat. What Skype username are you chatting with shdvb?

Again, green member has did this ... Why people dare to did this  :-\

Just check the account, This user's password was reset recently.
or he/she got hacked ??



His/her account said " Skype:    I do not conduct any trade on skype use my live chat or IRC when authenticated."

this is from the security log


Since the password is reset via email, there is a huge chance that it is indeed the real Maidak that change his password.
Judging from the PM and the transaction ID it seems like it was done before Maidak reset his password. Also that from the security this is the first time Maidak is changing his password since the security breached .

It's really unprofessional for a user to be so irresponsible while trading. The delay should have been informed before confirming the trade and it doesn't matter if the amount is big or small. I hope he reads this thread and does reply in time as he hasn't been online since May 31st.

This has happened to me as well once when a user said that he had some issue with his PayPal and he kept dodging me for 3 days until I had to open a scam accusation thread on that forum and he sent me a refund immediately.

The only sure way is to contact him by sms. Skype, email or pm can be forgotten. So OP, when you want him to come in here you should consider sending him a sms or call him. You need to add 001 before the phone number he has in his profile.

Ill try thank you.

Maidak's been online again today...  Hopefully he comes in here and pays OP what is owed.

Man I hate seeing shit like this, especially from highly trusted users. Though I do think OP may have jumped into the "FUCK YOU SCAMMER FUCK YOU" stage a little prematurely, I can definitely understand why he was feeling that way- he thought he'd been robbed $400 by a supposedly trusted user. I would be more than a little pissed off if all I got was half-ass excuses and time delays from him after I sent $400 and he promised an hour's time for the return of funds. Mainly I'm just hoping to not see a trusted user claiming to have been hacked if they weren't. We'll see how this pans out...

Only question comes to my mind is even if the payment is delayed OP should be informed about that, since 400$ is not a small amount. Well hope is still there since he is a trusted user. Hope you get paid fast. Thanks

I laughed hard at OP's patience, I wish he does lose the money but I doubt it. First off his skype away message probably said he will be busy before you purchased so you should of known, and he seems trustworthy to be caps locking that quick lol

Tried called phone,always says non available. dafak is this. >:(

I feel sorry for what happened to you, is always difficult when we lose money especially if we got scammed.

I think he will pay up in a few days with a poor excuse.

Think of it as an interest free loan for a few days until he gets paid  ::)

Maidak is a nice guy and won't destory his repo over here. He has been late earlier too on many deals. Don't worry he will pay back, I guess he is thinking of a silly excuse as of now :P

I also have a problem with Maidak, no payment sent from 17th of May. Just giving him time until tomorrow to pay. His last message was 11 days ago, from than no contact. Tomorrow i will post the scam accusation, official, and prt scr with our exchange of text, his number must be known by many and will prove his the one.

I say it's time for others to give negative trust and remove him from escrow lists before more damage can be done.

My payment is for $1125, i deal with him in the past for over 100 btc, over 80% of transactions with late payments, but this...i will give him my last bit of trust until tomorrow.

If it was so common for him to take so long for him to pay you then why did you keep trading with him? I am sure there are people on LBC that you could find that would be better incentive to release escrow almost instantly.

Because the late was no more than 12 hours, only 1 time was for few days. Why are you fighting me now? I worked with him because he was what i need for my business, that is why. Paying late, was not such a big problem. The problem is now, when i got screwed.

What payment method? Did you pay Maidak / Derek himself or someone else?

I still suggest, like the others, that Maidak will pay you.  I did some work for him back in the day and I did the work first and then he paid me.  Was quite a nice guy and has been running a business in the bitcoin world for a long time.

The OP seems like a crazy dude typing FUCK YOU FUCK YOU again and again just because things are late.  It's not so cool to blow your top like that.

It's almost certain that Maidak will show up and explain this, but you can't expect everything to happen in 1/2 second.  Just my 2 satoshis on this one.

I am not fighting with you. I am just letting you know the importance of good customer service. It is obviously up to you who you want to trade with however I wouldn't trade with someone who often takes that long to send Bitcoin after they receive funds (or vice versa).

The worst is being strung along for money you are owed. I've texted/contacted people for months for less than $100 owed. Always with some new, crazy excuse of why they don't have funds. I've never done a transaction with Maidak, but when he states he will pay in 1 hour and then comes up with excuses, never good.

Good luck with recovering what you are owed.

People change. Just look at TradeFortress, Projects and a few others.

If this was one time, okay but there have been several complaints from different members. If what DjVoodo says is true, fact here is Maidak is still trading while owing others. This is very untrustworthy, not sure how you can see it different.

Maidak owed DjVoodo. Stops responding to him. Maidak accepts bitcoin from shdvb and tells him he'll have payment within an hour, disappears afterwards only to come back with a new excuse. Do you not see anything wrong here, or are you just here to troll / disagree with Quickseller?  :D Let's not make this another Quickseller thread. Not saying that's what you're going to do but this is exactly what happened in other threads.

I paid him in ppmc codes. I worked with him for over 1 month, but not responding 11 days, it's a big issue. Few days, ok, but 11 days, to much. The excuse was that he is in hospital, i will post and picture i received by text, with his leg infection

Indeed
Not here to disagree or troll. Just thought it was relevant to add that I've had a good experience with Maidak and that's about all I really can add (of relevance).  I'm not saying it's right to delay or cetera, but 450$ is a good amount of money and I believe (I may be wrong) that Maidak will make this right.

In the hospital but was able to accept bitcoin from someone else, claim to have cashed out at a ATM and then disappears on that member too. Things are just not adding up here.

I updated the negative feedback (as in deleted, added new feedback). Others should be very careful dealing with him. Who knows if he will pay back others with funds taken from other members, you know... like a Ponzi scheme.

Escrow with clear terms will prevent this from happening to anyone else.

He was late in paying killyou72 maybe a month or so ago. He picked up the funds almost right away. He had claimed that he was having problems with his bank account but his Chinese partner could still trade with others (I am now suspicious of this statement). 

Why do you believe that this could possibly end up with him owing tens of thousands in fines?

Are you saying that you have the proper license for trading bitcoin?  I'm not sure of anyone that really does on the forum yet... so wouldn't they fall under the same thing (minus the fraud part)?

He probably means something like this: customers that do their trade successfully and get their money are happy customers. Customers that get their money stolen in a trade are unhappy and much more likely to raise a stink and cause issues like alerting authorities.

He gave me his private phone number when i couldnt contact him otherwise. He said its easier to get him that way.

I will send him a sms now. Maybe he reacts on me and checks back in this thread.

Maidak handled a $1600.00++ Escrow for me with No problems at all.  I know when $$ is involved we get short fused....Maybe it's a problem on his end being hacked or something? not sure just hate to think he is dishonest.

Will be watching this thread for the outcome. Hope it's a misunderstanding or something.  ???

If he delays more then 1-2 days regardless of what that problem, or excuse is, youre screwed.

I hope you get the money back.I have traded with him in the past and all has gone smooth and with no problems or delays.

Good luck!

Maidak (http://Maidak) is an old guy here..i think he wont destroy or demote his reputation for 400$.
he will surely pay back with a bonus..
right now he might me thinking of some excuses that would fit here better.

People can change due to circumstances, its not because he traded alot before doesn't mean he will not scam.. this can be a valuable lesson for this community.

When i dealed with him he told me about his frozen bank account and his problems with the skrill account. I wonder why he accepted my skrill offer or if the problems only started after that.

Besides that he claimed personal trouble with the very near family. Different things i wont mention. Though they were all time consuming i guess.

He didnt answer to my sms. I dont know what he is doing. Might be that the problems are way more important to him than spending time on here. Still... accepting receiving money is something he makes fast, thats not fine imho.

Having a very old account doesnt mean you dont leave the community. I know many that left bitcoins because they thought its dead. Price constantly dropping. Losing hope. That kind of thing. Though i think the way he wrote about his personal things, i believe its not someone who bought that account. If it is then he must be quite skilled in telling stories.

Because of Money, Anything can happen & everyone can change. We live on anonymous world and getting more ruthless
Just don't trust anyone so easily even he/she is so nice from the cover

This will have very bad impact on this community, this kind of behavior coming from a trusted user is shame. He spoiled his reputation as well showed that no one is trustworthy here.

I'm saddened to hear that he hasn't straightened this out.  Alas.

Seems a very small sum of money to piss away a legendary account.

Even if he does pop up and settle I think the negative feedback should remain to warn others.

Has anyone spoken to his partner Lynn?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=169051 - Not active here but maybe through skype or email?

If this is an exit scam there's a very good chance he has scammed from outside of the bitcointalk community, so we don't know yet.  Let's just hope that this isn't the case and that Maidak will return and at least pay shdvb back. I use to trust Maidak and have used him a few times as an escrow too, he was very trustworthy and on point back then (~6-7 months ago).

Perhaps try and get in touch with any of his colleagues/staff on the other sites that he likely seems to be a part of: MMOClub.com, Sealswithclubs.eu, bitvisitor.com, bitcoinminerz.com

Maidak if you need bail out money let me know. i'll buy your account for $400 you can come in thread and say you accidently forgot to pay or some excuse and no one will know i bought the account. Ive seen how u write and can handle myself within your language. i would love to own your account as i can further my business on LBC here with your account. Please get back to me.

We can also have a liability waiver drafted by my lawyer if you fear the account might be used for something negative, which it wont be. This is a serious offer, I await your PM.

LOL. No one in their right mind is going to sell their account to you. At least not knowingly.

I did,she is Chinese .Also a good online'friend' with me.She thinks maidak is in hospital so i guess he needs money lol then play a trick on me and 'borrow' my money.;/

If he truly is in the hopsital, how many 'fuck you's will you retract?

What a waste of reputation. I've read on the forum's FAQ that activity points do add up in 2 weeks time. I wonder how old is that account? He waited for a while to do this. Do mods ban people here too?

Mods only ban users who have break the rules and will not ban people because of scamming..

Didn't he pay back yet? Did someone trying calling him?

I don't think he is coming back now, its been long time now and his reputation is already spoiled.

It may be that if he is indeed in the hospital, that once he's recovered he'll look into clearing this up.  I hate to say it but if I was in the hospital with something life-threatening, a 400$ bill, while certainly a serious matter, wouldn't be the first thing on my mind.

Ahh...its long since i am seeing this post but doesnot see any of the replies from him..i think he will never come back..

lesson: use escrow be safe.

The problem is that he is a legendary member. And he has a lot of trust. Who will you use as escrow then? I mean when you anticipate that there will be problems then ok, but if you trust him because he has so much trust then it wouldnt matter much if you use a trusted escrow. Because the trusted escrow could run with the funds too then. Its all based on trust and he has good trust.

Im not sure what to think. I know he has quite some problems and i think his reputation on the forum is not the most important thing in his life now. Though i think when you experience hard times then you should not lose everything on the way. You need to keep on living later.

My guess is that something came up and he will pay you back. I really doubt he will scam, but no matter what he has tarnished his reputation. Maidak is too well known to just scam and make a run for it. I have his personal info and cell number so I can shoot him a text and help clear this up. I will let you know if he responds to me and what is going on.

i have had dealings with maidak also never any problems. i hope he will come back here and explain what has been going on.

it's strange, in his profile he did say that he don't conduct any trade on skype, so how come he used skype with you?

his password was also changed recently, there is a chance that his profile could be hacked?

FWIW, if you had hacked his bitcointalk account in order to scam someone, wouldn't you change the profile message so that it didn't say "I don't trade on skype" if your plan was to trade on skype.  Of course, it might have been overlooked.

I just spoke with Maidak and I can not disclose his situation, but I do have some info. Maidak will be back on the 24th of this month (2 weeks) and pay OP back. 

Is he okay?

That's good to hear. I'm glad this wasn't just some exit scam from a high repped member. Although it still sucks that OP has to wait to get his money back. Hopefully Maidak will be okay.

He explain why he took BTC from someone, disappear only to come back not having paid that person and take more BTC from someone else with terms of paying back in hours and disappear again? That's what I find suspicious about this whole thing. Nothing adds up: Take BTC from someone, disappear, take BTC from someone else and come up with excuse after excuse while 1 hour turns into weeks. Claimed to be in the hospital the first time according to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077982.msg11536992#msg11536992 - Then was cashing out at the ATM and etc but couldn't payback the first guy?

Call him whatever you want (trusted, good guy, etc) but after seeing the above, how can you not be suspicious? How can anyone blame shdvb for being impatient after being told one hour, then nothing but excuses? Why start deals knowing you can't complete them in time instead of just taking out a loan?  ???

Blazedout419 - With the info you can't disclose, was he being honest with shdvb and DjVoodo?

I seen some guys get scammed like thousands, so consider it wasnt compared to that..

but yeah $400 dollars is a large amount of money still, cause it could be half months of rent right there.. I mean we cant really do anything about the situation..

He is alright...I will let him explain whatever details he wants. I was just trying to get OP an answer about when he gets what is owed.

Xestr - all I have is a few texts with little more info than I posted. I was asked just to pass on when he will be back to settle up his debts. If what I was told is the truth then I understand the delay. I agree though stuff like this is not good when trading.

That is exactly what I was thinking, however I didn't want to put his name through more direct then necessary, especially when it would be based off of speculation.

I was also scammed $5000 by Maidak.

Here's my post with details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1086873

I've been waiting for him more than 6 months to pay me what he owes me. I'm really tired of his excuses and also no answering for weeks.

ALWAYS a different excuse, for more than 6 months. I've been REALLY patient, as I haven't said anything because of his reputation. But well, it seems he really scammed me.

If he told you the same he told me then still... it might be a huge personal problem but it really would be nothing that makes it impossible to take 5 minutes time and make a post in here. Or simply pay if he has the money. I mean even with a blocked bank account... sending someone money should be possible. And it would not take much time... IF you have the money.

The $5000 accusation could match in the problems he described.

I know personal problems are a real problem but taking money from others then, maybe knowing that you cant pay back (instantly)? I dont think i would do that. Though on the other hand... its said people can be pushed so hard on the abyss that the own moral is tested hard.

He also told me that he had his bank account blocked, although this was a really long time ago, and meanwhile I saw he was still exchanging money here. Then he told me it was his partner from China that was managing his account.

Then since March or April, he told me he got a new job, and that he would be paying me a little week per week, which I agreed. Of course he never did that. And every time I mentioned it, he said "I had a [insert_problem_here], I will be able to do it next week." Now it's been 3 more weeks with no answers, and we're in June. This all started in September 2014. I don't expect to see my money back really, but no one should believe his excuses. There's really no excuse for having $5000 from someone that long.

what happened with maidak?

he is (or was) a nice guy.

At least he did not say "Two weeks (TM)", so chances are you may get it at some point.  ;D

And this is why to me it just seems like excuses excuses. If he can text you guys then he should be able to text or contact the people he borrowed money from but he's more than likely just stalling. Seen it time after time here with people claiming personal problems or giving excuses as to why they can't send the money when they've likely just gotten themselves into a financial predicament and then just taken advantage of their supposed trust and rep to either steal or get an interest free loan. The least you guys could do is tell maidak to update the people he has kept money from or tell them yourselves.

Glad to hear that Blazedout419 made contact with him.  For sure this is not going to help Maidak's reputation, but it's good to see that he realizes that he has a good name to uphold around here and that he's going to come back.  I did a little work for Maidak back in the day and I would have for sure been sad if he had gone rogue.

Sorry to OP for your delay and troubles, but I'll be looking forward to seeing that OP change topics when this is resolved in your favor soon.

I agree. The chance might be high that he is in a financial predicament.

I was lucky. I could push him with the threat of opening a scam accusation thread. I gave him a enddate when i will do it. That worked, even though he let make it one of his "partners". You see how that looks.

Anyway... now, since this thread is in existance, and maidaks name was tarnished, he might think he doesnt have much to loose anymore, so the pressure on him is lower than when i pressured him.

That's not an excuse. Even when banks go bankrupt, they need to refund the money to their account holders. He is scamming others too quoting his personal problems. If he does have any financial problems, he shouldn't do trades with such a high value. It's wrong to keep a person waiting for his money for so long. It's also a concern that after he owed $5000 to another user that he wasn't able to pay, he still kept trading with other users. What does that mean?

Correct me if I am mistaken, however it appears that he did say it would be two weeks.

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It seems that he was having problems for some time now. Even though this guy had a very good reputation, I'm confused why people were so trusting of him after it was appearant of his problems/delays.

This user's password was reset recently.

probably due to the security breach.  A lot of users recently changed their password.

I am not making excuses for him or saying the situation is not bad. I am just relaying info...letting OP know that Maidak is saying he will repay the debt.

Hopefully he will pay everyone back that he owes money to when he gets back. I think he reputation is beyond repair though.

And then in two weeks it will be another two weeks or just more stalling. I hope I'm wrong though and he's busy trying to get the money together he owes people.


Yes, but he could have updated the others when he stopped by.


His rep will be damaged for sure but if he pays it back he wont be forever known as a scammer at least. I have respect for people who do the right thing eventually but he may still have took the money as an interest free loan. Regardless, he shouldn't have got himself into this predicament.

any news?

It would be better to first ask if they know where he is. If you go that far then you might be get told the story behind, if the story is real. Im not sure it would be the best to draw his innocent family into already. Though thats only my personal opinion. You might break a mothers heart otherwise. :)

@andresmm91, I agree with SebJu, that seems a little over-the-top.  I think it's best to contact the OP by pm and see what info he already has.  Blazedout has a telephone number for him, obviously, and the guy who is OP may also have that info.  A debt-is-a-debt, and it's not good, but it's not a murder.  I think we don't want to make things worse than they already are.

Also, FWIW, I know Maidak's real name as well, from having done some work for him.  So it may be that most of us know his info.  And if all you had to do was facebook that name then it's probably the case that what you've discovered here isn't really all that much new.

Just wait it out for now, but the fact so many people know his personal details may urge him to return the funds. If he hasn't responded or returned the money with two weeks then you can escalate the situation.

Looks like Maidak has gone in to hiding or is too ashamed to show his face again here.

He's not been on for nearly 2 weeks now, personally I would post every bit of info I had on him, his family and friends.

Contact as many of them via facebook, phone and txt and let them all know exactly what he has done followed up by passing all that info on to the authorities.

$400 is bad enough but the other guy who posted in the scam accusation thread is down $5k.

If he does show up with some sob story I hope no one falls for the shit as there is no excuse for stealing from others.

I don't mean to sound like a dick here, and I know firsthand that some fucked up shit can happen in life, but I have to say I agree. Unless he has been in a coma or extremely terrible situation there is no reason why he couldn't have at least popped up on here Once to tell the people he owes what's going on. I would not be calm, cool, and collected as that one guy is who is owed $5000 for months...  You will not make it in life if you just let people get away with taking 5 grand from you, and I don't mean any offense to the victim(s). At that point after $5000 is taken you are not only robbed but if you don't do as much as you can to stop the thief/defaulter then you are almost enabling them to keep doing it.

I'm not saying Maidak is a bad guy and shouldn't be forgiven if he repays what is owed, but I do think any negative feedbacks should remain and that his trading here should be rightfully tarnished. It would take literally 5 minutes (enough time to reply to a text message) to get on BitcoinTalk and briefly explain the situation. We ALL know that problems and unexpected situations can happen in life when money (or anything) is involved, but any good trader knows that communication is KEY if and when any problems arrive with a transaction.

Blazedout419 it looks like Maidak hasn't repayed anyone anything or that he intends too due to lack of contact or forum activity.

Why not post his phone number so those that have been scammed can get in contact directly?

It would be a useful piece of information to help the authorities track him down.

Dont think its right to help keep a scammer hidden.

His phone number is public. Just look at his currency exchange thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273034.0

He has this picture on the first post --> https://i.imgur.com/rE0WE49.png

It lists his phone number as 717-454-4274

Late payment here, 2BTC -
https://bitlendingclub.com/user/loans/id/6189/statuses/2

something isn't right here...

The employment on that loan lists him as being unemployed. I think things are certainly not looking good for maidak right now

Why would he even state he was unemployed. Doesn't look good when you're trying to get a loan. Looks like he just took whatever he could get and then run.

Well you need to list your annual income on the loan page (or at least the annual income is listed), and it is possible that employment is expected to resume in the near future.

I agree this does make it somewhat look like an exit scam, although hopefully that is not the case

Didnt someone post in this thread here that he claimed that he lost his job but will start a new one? He didnt tell me about that personally, only personal reasons... that very well can bring one in a financial predicament.

So maybe he really was unemployed at that time?

Saying that... im not sure if i would give every random website my real details. Thats not smart as long as its not needed in order to confirm your identity. Its better to be cautious with infos. So i dont think there is much harm in giving wrong facts. Or does this mean problems for others coming from that?

I believe that maidak had previously posted that he recently started a new job and would have less time to respond to trade requests.

I believe that you need to sign something (digitally or otherwise) that says your asset and income information is true and correct in order to even apply for a loan, I would assume this website would be the same. If you don't give information about your income then potential lenders are not going to be able to determine your ability to repay any loan you get.

Edit:

You mean when banks go bankrupt, account holders lose the money and taxpayer bails them out right? Don't be naive, welcome to the real world.

To reach this activity it take more than 2 year, And he is not wasted his account. His account is worth 1 btc app. I think he had many alt that why he wasted his account that that much amount

I feel sorry for shvbd, Because he is a good exchanger here. I exchanged my btc many times more than 500$ from him

Hello everyone Im about to put a exchange Service scam on the Op SHVBD, as he trying not to refund my money WU given back to him, I need help this please.

If you're going to post a Scam Accusation thread, I'd be sure that you were scammed for sure, and be sure to post thorough details then for proof. I believe shvbd to be an honest trader though, I'm sure if you are an honest person that you won't get scammed in the end.

I posted proof in his exchange thread, and I will post more proof if he dont resolve the situation.  Funds were returned to him, so now he has to pick it up and repay me, I also told him he can keep the fees just to return the value that I had requested. 

I think this was all.. GG maidak...

Seriously guys, what happened?.
What's wrong here?.. a legenday, really?.

Who's next?.

Trust?

You're making the sig spam a little obvious. Good luck not getting banned ;)

Back on topic : has anyone heard from Maidak lately?

nope no news.

:(

bump up for the scam.

Well the 2 weeks is more than over...not looking good  :-[

He is selling now his both domain. He was using for communicate with his clients.

This year he tried to start a group buy to have 100 antminer S5 hosted by him and he tried to take out a "8,000 to 20,000" loan.

I think it is safe to say that he was planning this for a while.

I did not sure about 400$ scam. But if he really got 8k-20k $ loan than he really scammed. And even we don't know how many more complaint against him will come. Or he did scam from other forum too.

haploid23 offered to give the loan if madiak could sell himself, however I am not sure if the loan was ever made or not.

I think he was probably trying to get away with as much money as possible. He took $5,000 from someone else so the $400 he stole is not the whole story.

^ Agreed. I think his personal info. should def. be posted publicly in this thread now. That way anyone else he has scammed will come across it when they Google search "Maidak scam."

I will say he's got a lot of balls (or stupidity) scamming so much when so many people know all of his personal information.

His dox are quite public already.  You can just look him up on facebook.  That's one of the main reasons why I'm not so convinced that this was a planned "exit scam".  From what I've seen---hospitalization, etc---he may have fallen on extremely hard times and is making wrong decisions based on aversity.  I don't know for sure, but I think it's better to consider things slowly rather than jumping to conclusions.

Well I should probably clarify my conversation wit him a little more. I was supposedly texting his brother as Maidak could not physically be at his phone. His info is very public so nothing to really dox here...shame if he does not try to fix this.

I did not read at all the topic, but it profes that money can make people evil  >:(

Was he in jail? In the hospital?

Did his brother not give any information about his whereabouts ? If he did take someones money before any incident, then he should atleast have someone leave an update on here unless he is in a very bad accident. There is no other reason not to.

Brother and accident are more than likely excuses just to buy time. Surely maidak's brother could have returned the funds but haven't there been other scams in the meantime? How many people were scammed and on what dates?

I have no idea honestly...I just sent a text to his phone and got that reply. He told me where Maidak was currently and said just tell everyone 2 weeks.

thats a shame the dude has more then 10k plus in scamming money...

whats more alarming is that no actions are being taken against him, besides the dox of posting his info?

take him to small claims court at least, unless this is already being done.

It doesnt make much sense to me. He isnt rich with >10k USD when he still used his old skype account.

Oh... *checking something* no, as long as the phone number in his profile is the same from long ago then he still texted me from his phone. I thought he might have given me another phone number, which he did, but he actually answered with the one in his profile. I thought i need to check because i never was able to reach him, or getting added, on skype. Which might have meant the one owning the account cant access the phone number and he mentioned skype only to let me believe he is the real deal, without ever wanting or being able to add me. Though thats not the case when the profile page didnt change.

So what we have is the same person, the profile wasnt changed in the last months, right?

Why should he do an exit scam for 10k when he knows we know his address and name?

For me its more likely the story he told me is correct. I guess ill write about without going too much into detail. He mentioned mentioned skrill and bank account frozen. He claimed a bad illness in the family which might explain everything happening. He doesnt have enough money to care because of the illness, so he starts to take it where he can in order to safe the one. Loses bank account, job and all. But still takes money from the forum because he would prefer going to jail than not paying the hospital.

Im not sure how valid his story is but at least it makes somewhat sense to me that he will scam for that amount, knowing that he is known in person.

Do we know for certain that the details people have are legit? And 10k is still a lot of money, but some people don't care about the repercussion or assume they wont get caught but he could have provided false or fake info from the start to build trust and confidence.

10k scam thats a big ammount so even high members as him scamming?

I know the number I have is legit because of the area code. What number is everyone referring to exactly? I also know someone (who I have met face to face) who is friends with him...as in not online friends etc..

Edit: I just sent him a message...will update.

Sounds like you Blazed or your mutual friend might be the key to putting the squeeze on Maidak for some real answers, or to find out if he is really just buying time.

People in the Bitcoin community have been identified and still gotten away with much larger thefts before. There have been many examples but I'm mainly referring to dice sites DiceBitco.in and Dice.ninja. The combined thefts of those 2 sites were multiple millions of USD if I remember correctly.

$10,000 is a good amount of money, especially when you are long-term unemployed (his loan listing on BTC-Jam said he was unemployed), or even unemployed at all. Based on the fact that he was trying to take out a very large loan and was trying to start a group buy worth tens of thousands of dollars, I think it is apparent that he was trying to get away with more.

$10,000 is worth closer to $13,000 or $14,000 worth of income after you take into consideration the fact that taxes would not be withheld from any amount of money that he steals/scams. This could easily be 4 or 5 months worth of salary to someone making $35,000 to $45,000 per year.

He will most likely not go to jail over this as it would probably be reasonably implied that the money is a debt obligation of his. I also have heard a report that he was refusing to sign a message agreeing to the terms of trades so it would be possible for him to claim in court that his account was sold/hacked/ect. (however I would doubt this would be true, as if it was then I would think he would come back and claim as much)

I texted with him from may 4 till may 17. With the phone number in his profile: 0017174544274

I got a phone number from him he claimed is his private one. I think its fine at this point to post it: 0017174193511927

I didnt call him on that or get answers to my sms from there.


Why didnt the victims sue? Many scammers were found already.

Is there any chance that anyone who has spoken to him is willing to post what the reason he claimed to be away from the forum and unable to repay everyone? Eg where was it claimed that he is?

Not sure if that is a real number or some google voice number. I have a real number for sure as the area code matches where he lives. I will see if he responds, but not much else I can do really as all of his info is already public.

When something looks too good to be true it probably is.

What legitimate reason could the be for him to need $400 and be able to pay back $450 in an hour?

With the anonymous nature here/with bitcoin it really isn't too hard to build up a reputation then run when you get enough money.

This isn't the first time I've seen a "trusted" "reputable" person end up being a total scammer, and it really wouldn't be hard to do. I borrow 1 btc on this account. Then log into a second account and borrow 1.1 btc. Pay off the first guy, now with my rep for paying off my first load I borrow more to pay off the second guy. Now I have 2 accounts with a positive reputation and didn't risk/lose anything. Keep going until I can't get the next loan or I feel like I have enough money.

This guy did it by making trades instead of borrowing money but it's the same thing. Buy 1 btc from mark 1, sell 1 btc to mark 2, just move the money and coin from mark to mark (keeping a cut for himself of course) until you make a deal you can't follow through on or get a big enough score to move on.

I don't know Maidak very well at all but I can tell you that what you describe isn't the only thing he did.  He hired me for a job (writing some code for his website) and paid me on-time for that work.  My point here isn't to absolve him, just to say that loaning and borrowing wasn't all that he did.

He replied and said he will be making this right with everyone.

Surely i heard these words from issuers alot already. "Dont worry, i make sure you will make your money back", "Ill do anything to make it work". Problem is, i often still waited months later. ::)

So did he say something about what timeframe he means? And what is the hindrance for him in the meanwhile?

I will send you a pm and ask you if the second phone number i got from him is the same you got.

Well I can not say for sure either way (I like to think that he is telling the truth and will make everyone whole though). I only have his info from a project we were working on last year with a mutual friend.

Sebastian - we have different numbers I assume yours is a google voice number or something? We do have the same number - you just added a bunch of numbers to dial it from your country I assume.

It seems to be not only the country code i guess. Maybe its a service where you get nearly similar numbers for landline and smartphone or so.

I don't really think so. That's what he's been saying to me since we exchanged the Bitcoins. And he never sent me any of the $5000 he owes me since November/December 2014.

I dont understand why you waited SO long. I mean i waited a month too but it was not that much money. Is it change money for you? At least you should have threaten him with a scam accusation threat. That was what worked for me at the end. I gave him a week time and claimed after that i will open a thread.

Maybe OP would have had driven better with that too. First threaten to open a thread instead opening one from the start. Though im not sure if it would have helped with your amount. :/

Sebastian or anyone who was a victim of Maidak's fraud/scam:
why dont you guys pursue any legal action against him??

I wasnt. He sent the coins, or let someone send for him, after i threatened him to open up a scam accusation thread.

And i think its way too early for legal actions. You would have costs without them making sense. He now is under real pressure. When he doesnt come through then such actions might be worth it.

Maidak has been really sketchy for the past 1 year or so.  He constantly messaged me on Skype looking for me to invest in projects with him.  It seemed that the project that I invested into was secondary to the investment itself.  Here's some examples of the weird / sketchy convos I've had with him.  Maidak strikes me as the type of guy who acts very successful, but it's all just smoke and mirrors.  He's claimed to me that he has made 6 digits many years, but in hindsight I think he's been making peanuts for a long time.

Here's some examples of him trying to push absolute trash investments on me.

http://gyazo.com/7ce04b36dad60c88d2db8eec9a39a726

http://gyazo.com/6989947bb12df230da76881d09fc07c1

http://gyazo.com/4fcd04e0ac3591f99c3555ded513af67

http://gyazo.com/4b16e56787ad5cea67aa4caa818f9b6a

That is extremely sketchy. I saw on his group buy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998230.0) thread that he claimed to make 6 figures running his website. Judging by the amount of money he stole, I would say that is probably not true.

11 days later it looks like that was not much more than an excuse.

Guess im lucky that i could get my money out when a month later he goes scammy.  ::)

If this goes longer then maybe all his contact details arent valid from the start. Local Voip-Number maybe and other things? If someone wants to set such thing up then this would be possible.

Anyone who boasts about this stuff is very likely just blowing hot air up your arse. It's like when people make out they're hot shot traders or investors but need your money to do it. If you're so good at trading why do you need my money? Make it yourself. Maidak is unfortunately very likely just a long-conner. Nothing you can really do about those people other than only trade with people you absolutely trust which isn't always as easy as that.

I think people should post all the info they have on maidak but I'd be surprised if most of it wasn't bs. Even that poor quality picture of him looks to me like it was probably just found on the internet somewhere.

People should have a strong indication of his identity considering that he often sold Bitcoin via ways that required him to show his ID that would need to match what the sender put as the receiver's name. I believe that he would also have some things shipped to him over time which would help confirm his physical location. Some money transmission services will also confirm at least the general location where he was when he picked up money.

What ID? People can easily buy fake drivers licenses for around $100 or maybe even less and that's probably all most require, though hopefully he did leave some real info behind. Some people don't intend to scam from the get-go either but get themselves into a tricky situation and get desperate or just decide to take what they can get. If people do have this info I think now is the time to start collecting it and posting it to see what people can track down.

When people would send him money via money gram or Walmart to Walmart then whoever is sending money would need to write the name of the person who they are sending to and he would need to show the agent an ID that matches that name in order to pick up cash.

Sure he could use a fake ID to pick up the money however that would be very risky to use, especially over long periods of time. If he didn't plan on scamming from the start and didn't have any reason to keep his identity secret (like because he was busting scams for example) then I would doubt he would go through the trouble of using a fake ID

This is my impression with Maidak.  I believe he made some mistakes and possibly took some bad luck in real life (there was a discussion earlier about him being in hospital).  I'd still like to see a concrete list of who he owes and how much to each.  People keep popping in here and saying "o what a scumbag" or "I talked to his brother" and I think it's confused the issue a bit.  OP talks about 400$ but someone else was talking about 10K.  What's the actual state-of-affairs.  Can we compile an actual list of who is owed?

The hospital and brother situations are likely just excuses in my opinion. Maybe it is true but they seem like the first port of call for scammers to buy some time to me. They also wouldn't explain why he was still taking money in and this has been going on for quite some time so that's why I don't buy it.

He contacted me for selling some BTC through Western Union some day ago. So I don't think he gave valid excuse of hospital.

There is surely something fishy.

http://prntscr.com/7sn6i9

Did you send him it? Sounds like he doesn't plan on stopping scamming anyone soon. What's his skype? You can get his IP if he's online but he might be using a proxy or something.

His response was that he couldn't send WU because he is in India so I would doubt he sent him money, especially considering how expensive it is to send money overseas.

No I did not sent because I can't send WU because of Indian govt. rule. We can only receive.

He is still online on away mode.

Oh, I read it as just can send wu.

Deadley, have you done many deals with him the past? Do you have any info on him? What's his skype?

Nope only 1-2 deal once he delay 7-8 days for sending fund till that I never dealt with him.

http://prntscr.com/7snj0l

here is screenshot of his skype profile.

It looks like his IP address is 70.208.200.218 which resolves to Verizon wireless. It looks like he is probably using a Skype app on his phone.

Guess since he likely turned away i could say what he told me. He told me his grandpa has cancer and knowing the US health system it was an explaination to me why he needs money and doesnt give it back. Though when he tells other stories to other users then this most probably is not right.

The phone number i got form him is .

Thats everything i know so far.

"Looks like"?  Where are you getting this information?  Were you in contact with him recently?



Yes, people can be saddled with debt for hospital bills but even in USA you don't have to pay up front for care.  I think you're right that he's just offering up excuses.  Very sad situtation in any case.

Look at the post directly above the one you quoted and you can see where I got the information. It is very public.

The screenshot posted by deadly?  I see that it meantions two domains he owns: mmoclub.com and bitcoinminerz.com.  DNS for those sites resolves to
92.232.216.170, 162.246.56.115, respectively (which are probably IPs for hosting companies, I doubt he hosts his websites at his house).  Where do you get the 70.208.200.218 address?

Probably from skype.

There are ways to get IP's from Skype sometimes just by knowing the username. Or he probably just contacted deadly to obtain it.

You can use Skype resolver/grabber to get IP but you can prevent this if you want. Eg:- http://skypegrab.net/resolver.php & http://resolvethem.com/.

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http://www.tcpiputils.com/browse/ip-address/70.208.192.104
https://who.is/whois-ip/ip-address/70.208.192.104

Thanks MZ and hillarious, this explains how QS found that address.

Update:

http://gyazo.com/46c692e5a21f11d69df6169ed853617c

I contacted him and was told the same thing, as well as the following.

"I fully intend to pay everyone back an am selling mmoclub.com and bitcoinminerz.com"

Doubt he would get much for those sites, especially since they are linked to him. Who knows if those sites were also used to take payment and not delivery.

MMOClub isn't worth anything over $1,000 -- that's probably being very optimistic as it is.

On the other hand, the fact that he's still intending to try to climb back and pay everyone back in encouraging.  I think that's a good sign, on the whole.

Call my cynical but this just sounds like more stalling / excuses. Ask him to post some of the letters or documents from the irs. He might have got himself into financial trouble with money somehow but that doesn't excuse stealing from others.

First off i belive my MMORPG gold site is worth more then what you think. Here is a link to one of the 50 addresses I use for payment processing on orders. https://blockchain.info/address/1LuFAm5DfmKGVv8rpZ6Z4NVB8xEaPqXsNs Each address is roughly the same amount of received coin. The payment system to accept bitcoin was to forward to one of the 50 addresses using blockchain.

Now the reason i'm in such a situation to where I can not pay anyone back on bitcointalk.org currently for the most part is information that is personal. What I will disclose is a couple years ago I ran a group buy on bitcointalk.org which raised about 98K USD which was sent to the supplier of the bitcoin mining hardware by bank wire in USD. This has now caught up to me and has put me in quite a bind.

Since my reputation has since been ruined until these debts are paid back. I have given up on even trying to make a secondary income after work. Staying at home on a PC was a full time job since 2008 and I am now 25 years of age an hit rock bottom. Going from a 6 figure income per year from home, to building highway bridges as a union carpenter. Thankfully I was hired in as a journeyman so I have a topped out wage at 28.40 per hour. However a 60 hour week brings in 1k after all fees. When I was used to 1k or more per day.

I know andres is owed 4300 USD from what my notes tell me. Svbhd is owed $450 from a $300 24 hour BTC loan. Currently I have about 40k USD in debt most of this debt is very high interest ranging from 15 to 29%

Everyone who has contacted me personally through my cell is truthful. i really do apologize about owing this money. I am currently looking into a debt consolidation at this point. My grandfather is now cancer free and is back at home able to take care of himself.

My yearly income since 09 was no less then 70K USD on mmoclub.com and through the Maidak name and forum reputation.

Oct. 2014 I built bitcoinminerz.com using an opencart platform after running a group buy that ended up being a huge success. This site itself when ran properly made 149k when I built it and its best year was 310K.

If you dig enough you'll find my information is very public. I have nothing to hide but some things are just not meant to be put online about ones personal life.

With all this said I have no intention of scamming 5500 USD. If I was a scammer the year I would of given the bird and walked out would of been in november of 2014 when I had roughly half a million in my bank during the end of a group buy I ran. Reason I have not posted anything myself is I just lost the motivation to continue trying after my perfect reputation went to negative 3000. Which doing this has pretty much killed any ambition to even open up my live chat support any more.

TL;DR With all being said mmoclub and bitcoinminerz.com are both for sale email maidak@mmoclub.com for specifics. Serious offers only please include your name and a phone. I will not sell either site for any less then $xx,xxx you will get everything from the remaining hosting to the source code and how to properly run the site and the proper connections to supply and drop ship items for you. Each of them require a little maintenance but have huge potential with my own personal proven results.

My last option is a private loan that I would use for debt consolidation. The total amount I would be seeking for this would be 15-25k USD with weekly, bi-weekly or monthly payment options and I would like to get both users paid back and the rest would go towards the  high interest credit cards.  

I Have let a lot of people down in this community and i do apologize. I was a firm believer in bitcoin and still am to this day ,but the IRS, cancer, losing my girlfriend of 6 years who took pretty much everything I had left. This has been a tough year for me but again I am no scammer I just dont have the cash to pay people back yet but it will be within the next couple months. So everyone is aware my full time job Mon-Fri I am currently working 10s and my hourly wage is 28.40 but roughly 60% is taken out because taxes and my wage being garnished.

Send me a personal message or email if you have any concerns or questions I know for certain both users will be paid off before the end of t eyear.

I hav no reason to stall I just don't have the cash the finances are just to tight anymore without my secondary income that came from bitcoin an MMO gold training. At this point with the amount of negative feedback I've received from various users that I feel will never get removed even after paying them back. If I had the cash to do it now it would be done. The IRS problem is my own private matter but it is related to the multiple bank wires varying from 30 to 100k USD that I was ignorant with an never reported.


Like I said if I was a scammer I would of bailed out when i've had a quarter to half a million in this communities money and never ordered the bulk miners to redistribute. I do care about my name and reputation but this job kicks my ass i'm only able to post this now because I am at a location with internet an have cancelled my own internet serfvice as well as cable to cut bills. ideally a debt consolidation loan through a private person at an agreed percentage so I can minimize this down to one bill and reduce the interest rates on the majority of this debt. 

I never bragged about my income but from 17 to 24 I was making a living full time from the comfort of my own home. My yearly net income was at the lowest 65k and my best year was over 200k All of it was made legitimately and my best niche other then bitcoin was trading final fantasy 11 accounts and gold.

Now as for finding people to invest in any new side project essentially I just wanted a partner to share expenses and equally take a risk in a new idea or website. What I can say about the cash I did make is easy come easy go. I spoiled not only my ex girlfriend but myself as well. On top of that if I wanted to do something with my so called ''friends" i always had the deep pockets. Regardless I have explaned myself and my yearly income has nothing to do with the money I currently owe the 2 users. Anyways my reputation on here is something I most certainly want to get fixed and hope these users who left a negative review remove it. The income I made just from being a trusted member for trading btc is way more then the 5500 owed. However the money I use to make from home has just been put to a stop until I get my rep here fixed. Anyway i am tired but I know everyone was long awaiting a reply from me so here they are.

Maidak,

I, for one, appreciate that you gave replies on-thread to everyone's questions.  In the end, being open about your situation and making a plan to repay and sticking to it are the only options for recovering your reputation.  Anyway, I'm just glad you're still here talking to people and I hope all gets worked out soon.

I'm rather uncomfortably on the fence on this whole thing after reviewing this all. So Maidak as it would seem is most definitely having liquidity issues. Even then, with liquidity issues, why wouldn't you just give the BTC back? The BTC was simply nicked and sold. I can't see a plausible reason a sane person would do this if their business was struggling.

When you offer to buy $5k worth of BTC saying you will send funds "over in a few minutes" then disappear for months then you are a scammer, no excuses or bullshit.

He knew he did not have the funds to pay for the goods before initiating the deal.

I have to admit I sorta hate this binary mindset that some people on here exhibit where someone is a scammer and someone else is a non-scammer and as if that describes accurately the world we live in.  In point of fact, there are all kinds of shades of grey and degrees of negative behavior.  Satements like "that guy is a scammer, no excuses or bullshit" seem to ignore the fact that if he pays back eventually, that is clearly better behavior than never paying back at all.  And to talk this way, as if the world is a collection of scammers and non-scammers is in fact a misleading dichotomy which only adds confusion and rankor.  If someone makes a mistake and then tries to clear it up, it's clearly better than not trying to clear it up.  I just have become quite sick and tired of this binary scammer/non-scammer thing, I just don't think it's helpful.

I agree there are different shades of scamming or untrustworthyness but the matter of the fact is he currently owes a lot of money which he took under false pretenses and abused his position regardless of excuses or explanations and until he pays it back it's all just talk. Sure, I hope he pays it back but that still wouldn't excuse what he's done and he still did initially take the money without keeping up his end of the deal so he still 'scammed' it from them so regardless of the outcome there's nothing wrong with calling this a scam. At best if he returns the money he's taken out an interest free loan for himself but that was never agreed upon and is still very untrustworthy though I would respect him for making the situation right.

You're absolutely right that there's nothing wrong with calling this a scam.  And I don't disagree at all with that.  It's actually this "he's a scammer, no excuses" remark which irked me.  I think it may have to do with my own personal issues regarding quickseller.  At some point he seems to have gotten into this idea that I am a scammer, and therefore I must be shunned and attacked at all times by all people for all eternity.  I think this kind of binary mindset is just confusing and wrong and I see it a lot on here.  As if the world is divided into angels and demons and the angels are always doing nothing but the most elevated and ethical and morally motivated things and the demons do nothing but try to subvert all that is right and good. To my mind, this kind of mindset clouds people's judgments and makes them unreasonable.

My point is that people are people and that people make mistakes.  Some people make worse mistakes than others, some people try to rectify their past mistakes, others don't.  But this doesn't add up to a black and white world where the only citizens are scammers and scambusters.

Here's an example of a direct cost to this mindset, Maidak said above that he watch his reptuation fall to -3000 overnight and found it very depressing and made it very hard to come back and face things here because he basically felt there was no hope to fixing his broken rep.  Many of these "scambusters" in this scenario seem to me like some kind of vultures looking for dead bodies so that they can drop their negative feedbacks and say snotty thing in a thread like "I knew he would turn-scammer".   The way they talk you'd think they were on star-wars looking at someone going to the dark-side.

Anyway, I basically agree with you and hope that Maidak is able to repay his debts.  And for the record, I'd work for him again.  He paid me on-time when I did a job for him and that's a valuable thing.  I'm sorry to the people he scammed and I hope he makes it right and never does it again.  I'm just quite irked by the broken mentality here generated by the trust-wranglers as they jockey to try to get more power on some popular internet forum.

I wonder if you would still be so keen to make up and give him a hug if you were on the wrong end of a $5k scam.  

Presuming the guy that sold the $5k worth of btc because he needed the cash  the fact that he may or may not get paid in the distant future is little comfort.

I appreciate your reply, but your answer seems brief and it appears that you missed my point entirely.  I don't want to rehash it, but for the record, I am not approving of a 5K$ scam.  Please see the details of my two posts above if you actually want to catch my point.

I don't like this kind of excuse either.. look im just a human and i commit mistakes, so i had to fuck up other people too and  so that both of us have a problem to deal with

so, remove that mindset of yours coz scam is scam.. this is not about good or bad, this is about his action of not keeping his part of the deal.

I agree with you, but this kind of quote given above:


betrays a different mindset, and that's the one I'm arguing against.

TO make it clear on this $5000 that just went missing. It was already agreed between me and this person that the coins he sent me were to be sold and then transferred to my bank. I did it in 2 seperate transactions his total was about $18k in bitcoin actually. I split it and sent him $9000 then during my second sell off this is when my account at the bank was frozen. I didn't have his entire sum in USD to pay him back but I had enough to send him another $4000 USD. Since that shortly after I was laid off while working at cex.io and the only income was through the forums and my websites. Thankfully in march I got a job building high level bridges. Unfortunately it does not pay nearly as much as I use to make working from home online. Which now being that my reputation is what it is. Its near impossible to continue trying to make extra income online after work.

I've already messaged the user who I owe the $5k to and will be making some payments weekly but until I am caught up on some more important debts I'm not able to afford to pay him back in large sums.

Yes there was a mistake, Yes I will fix it I am not a thief just a guy who had some bad luck. One last thing I can't stress enough is I am NOT A SCAMMER. Like I mentioned before if I was going to scam anyone it would of been during one of my group buys where I held onto as much as a quarter million in this forum communities funds, and not $5000 from a single user who had btc he wanted to sell.

Again I have full intentions of getting the 2 users paid back and hopefully my reputation will be repaired on this forum. After running those group buys and realizing that playing with large amounts of cash like that is not to be taken lightly. What I mean by this is IF I ever do something again in my future I learned a very tough lesson when it comes to gambling with the IRS. I can also confidently say that this was the first and will be the last time in my 7 years of online trading that I have ever been put into a corner like I am in currently. I've let a lot of people down especially the ones I owe the cash to but I will do everything it takes to earn back this communities trust and hopefully one day look back at my forum handle and see green again. I've been under a lot of stress and depression but each week i'm able to put myself back together a little bit at a time. I was very close to filing a chapter 13 bankruptcy but thankfully the job I got in march has saved my ass just enough to where I'm able to crawl back out of the hole I got myself into. The funds that I no longer have access to should also be available to me again before the end of the year and you'll bet the first thing I"ll be doing is giving back the money owed to andres. As for Svhb I should have his $450 paid back in the next couple of weeks.

I agree with you. Paying back is definitely better than a scammer.

Saying that... claiming that he scammed is still valid since accepting money while knowing that you can't fulfill the contract is scamming. It only would not be if it would be the agreed thing to do.

I don't know why he decided to do this.

Anyway... when he really pays back then i suggest a slow and steady repayment plan. Then he could show he is still behind and working on it and hickups could be seen fast.

Calling around scammer might be true but for the sake of repayment it is better to set focus on repayment. Debtors dont want to put him into a state of mind where he gives up hope totally. That would be a business decision on the side of the debtors.

I saw that he changed his password recently. I doubt though that someone buys that account with this red trust even when it is a legendary.

For now i changed my rating to negative until he paid back everyone.

I changed the pass and still plan on paying everyone back. I also hope that my reputation is restored back to normal considering this has been blown out of proportion and the 2 people involved should of been the only 2 to go and use the feedback system to put it at negative. No one else but these people were affected. The fact that its a free for all seems to me like its abusive. I can say with all this negative feedback its been pretty damn hard making any extra income which is most definitely needed in my current situation with IRS in order to pay the 2 users back..

Hello,
today Maidak contacted me and explained the situation and everything he's been through.

He told me that this week he would be figuring out a proper time frame to pay what he owes me.

So, altough I have lost my faith at this point, I think it's good that he's trying to fix this.

I will be updating the topic, and of course if he pays back I will post it here, so everyone can know, and also he can recover from his bad reputation right now.

Words are cheap, how many months has he had to start paying anything back?

(edit : looking at your profile it will be 1 year next month  ::) )

If you want your money back then start legal action immediately.

Seems he is more concerned about getting the negative rep removed so he can start trading here again.


Getting negative rep for stealing over $4000 is blowing things out of proportion apparently and the only people who should leave him negative feedback are the 2 newbie users not on the default trust list so other newbies cant see what he's been up to.

I can't do anything else, really. I'm from Argentina and taking legal action would be way more expensive.
If he really tries to pay back to me and the other user, great. If not, lesson learned for me (already learned actually).

So if you repay anyone thats cool and if you are lucky your -rep will be removed but can you guarantee you wont "scam" anymore ?

I'm happy that you try to fix that. After i heard what happened i actually was lucky since i misse not being paid by you for a hairsbreadth.

The trust is surely for warning other people and i think markj113 has a valid point. You would have no known red trust with only the victims voting. And i think not trusting you is needed for now since it seems you accepted payment for contracts you knew you can't fill. A warning is needed for sure.

By the way... you can still trade fine by using an escrow since the other parties risk is taken down.

So you gave me now a negative trust rating stating that you remove it once i remove mine and once you paid the money back.

I'm not sure why you think i should get a negative trust from you. You aren't in default trust anymore so it won't be seen by others but still this looks like nothing that should happen. The trust system surely is not for "I remove mine when you remove yours"-games.

I don't know how the others think about that. You surely don't await that no one from the forum gives you negative trust so that you possibly could "lend" more money, don't you? And this behaviour let it look like you feel you did nothing wrong at all. As if you feel treated unfair by those members on default list giving you negative.

Like i wrote, you can still trade with escrows. But demanding that you should have a clean trust rating is morally questionable and makes your mindset questionable too.

Seems a bit silly that he's leaving negative on a few people. I'd concentrate on repaying the money you owe rather than leaving unjust retaliatory feedback as you're not doing yourself any favours and if/when you do pay it back those people will be less likely to remove the feedback they left.

How much and to who does he owe now? Has he made any promises as to when the money will be returned?

rofl at his blackmail type trust postings on others walls.

He keeps saying i will pay all the debts, his saying, but he never contact me to tell me to wait or anything else. Why should everybody remove his feedback? Until we, the ones that got scammed by this guy, will not post here that the problem was resolved, nobody should remove nothing. Doesn't matter how good he was before, now he is just another scammer, and we talk about $4-5k's, not $400-500

It looks like Maidak's OTC profile (https://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Maidak&sign=ANY&type=RECV) has a rating from someone who claims that Maidak owes him $10,000. I am not sure how reputable that person is. The rating was sent to Maidak's profile on August 17 (roughly a week ago)

Did he refunded anyone yet?

What I completely dislike in this forum is when everyone - especially those on the default trust list - jump in to leave negative feedback for deals they have absolutely nothing to do with.
In my opinion, this is also some kind of abuse of power. I don't want to attack anyone here; I just want to leave my opinion.

The only ones leaving negative feedback here should be those who were involved in the trades, and no one else. There is no need for some sort of altruistic Samaritans jumping in on any situation possible.
This makes the reputation system flawed, misleading and a direct invitation for abuse. Actually, there should be an option to hide the trust data of any user, and it should be hidden by default.

Also, the default list should not exist. There should be some other way to define if a user's rating matters or not.

What if the users involved in trade is not in default trust list? People in default trust must leave feedback so others can know atleast when they see negative trust score.


What about trust spam? If all trusts are weighed equally, then how can we prevent trust spam? Keeping trust feedback moderated? How can we prevent abuse of trust moderators, then? What you said is not plausible but if you have a better idea which I(& others) may have missed, feel free to post in Meta.

If you want to continue discussion, please post in Meta.

You know what I completely dislike? Scammers. Your argument is absolutely ridiculous. You think scammers should only be marked as one if they scam someone on default trust? That's unlikely to happen. You can also remove  the trusts of anyone you wish. If you were to do it for everyone who has left him feedback but hasn't traded with him then maidak would look like an angel with many positive trusts. If it wasn't for those negative feedbacks on him he likely would still be trying to scam money and from his last post it looks like he's still trying to trade which is very alarming not to mention what QS posted above (and even if it's not true he still currently owes several thousand dollars so the feedback is entirely appropriate).

Muhammed: I didn't say it would be easy to find a better solution. Maybe it could be tied to the reputation. I don't know, but there are many reports of the current system being used inappropriately.
Also, I don't think there is need for another complaint thread in the meta section; I'll restrict it to my few posts here, trying not to hijack the thread.

hilariousandco: don't get me wrong, I also hate scammers. Imho, they're contributing a large part to Bitcoin not becoming mainstream, soon. But think of the way the board handles scammers: they don't, because they want to let things sort out themselves. If people know this, they can handle it.
But on the other hand, if they should be able to spot scammers themselves, they should also be able to read the feedback of users before doing a trade.

I don't know, it just feels wrong to me if people complain about a trade they aren't even involved in. I hope you understand what I mean. :)


Anyway, I really hope the OP gets things sorted, so those who gave him money get it back. He seems honest about trying to clear things up; however he could have told people about his situation way earlier (yes, I read the whole thread) and - I agree with you on that, hilariousandco - he shouldn't have made deals he knew he couldn't fill.
I hope my position is a bit clearer, now.

It's actually not ridiculous.  What is ridiculous in my opinion is that anyone would lend thousands of dollars to someone without doing their own due dilligence.  In my opinion it's ridiculous to lend large somes of money without escrow based on the red or green text under an account on a forum on the internet. The idea that only default trust can protect us from the wrongs of scammers is, in my opinion, a cause of more problems because it promotes and teaches the idea that someone is out there to protect you when you're trading bitcoin when in fact you need to do your homework and use escrow and protect yourself.

In theory, everyone is supposed to build their own trust network.  See this post by Legendary staff member dserrano5: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1103508.0

The phenomenon of 40 trust rangers looking to jockey their way onto the default trust list by aping each other's feedback blindly has led to a mob-mentality of judgment where no one wants to stick their neck or or argue against the prevailing wind as blown by whoever started the most recent lynch mob.  I fail to see how this evironment prevents scammers, yet this is what will be shouted out me now in response to my arrogance of questioning the received truths of those on default trust and the trust-rangers jockeying to be the next in the blessed list.

Ummm who was giving a loan to whom?

Maidak was one of the most trusted escrows around and was often looked to for trades in the thousands of dollars.

How exactly are people supposed to do due dilligance without some kind of reputation system when some opinions are more heavily weighed then others and users can create an unlimited number of accounts, and trades can easily be faked?

Most often times, people who advocate for the weakening of the trust system are either scammers or have plans to scam in the future.

Kind Regards
Panthers52

Panthers52, Perhaps I was misunderstood (or perhaps I misunderstood something myself).  My point was that once Maidak had scammed, the people who were scammed would have added their rating and their references and any further traders with Maidak who were responsible sane people would do due dilligence before loaning to him and would have seen his recent breach of trust and thought twice about it.  As I understood hillariousandco's argument, he seemed to be suggesting that unless everyone on (or jockeying to be on) default trust mindlessly apes the ratings of everyone else, Maidak would still be scamming today.  I see that argument as flawed.
Evidence for this?

People have used this kind of unsupported reasoning in the past, but that doesn't make it any more valid now than it was then.  Criticism of the implementation of the trust system is not equal to "trying to weaken" the trust system.  I don't think it's fair to say that because I have an issue with the trust-abuse I've seen on this forum that that amounts to evidence that I'm planning to scam anyone.  This kind of reasoning is called "ad hominem" because it attempts to undermine the person giving an argument rather than addressing the argument.

Cheers!

You're starting to sound exactly like tecshare. It is ridiculous. Like Panthers52 said the feedback system is there so people can make their own mind up and whether someone has red or green is only a guide and you should investigate further by reading their actual feedbacks but the warning trade with extreme caution is exactly what people should see on him given the circumstances. People can still trade with maidak if they wish and they should make their own mind up whether to do so, but they would be silly to do that without an escrow. If it wasn't for the feedback from default trust members maidak would still be in the green and appear highly trusted and I'm sure he would have just continued to collect as much money as he could using his rep as a scamming tool which is exactly what he did until he was hampered by the feedback he received when it was brought to peoples' attention.


If maidak only had two negative feedbacks from relative unknowns you know as well as I do they would likely be ignored or overlooked. Many people especially newbs don't even know or check the untrusted section so a lot of good that will do them. There's no issue at all with the feedback here and you wouldn't be complaining had he stole thousands from you. As it stands maidak has stolen several thousands of dollars and that is quite a substantial amount and the warnings that are there are wholly appropriate.

Such a statement doesn't amount to an argument against me, or techshare for that matter.  It's a special type of ad hominem.  See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

^^ Emphasis mine.  My argument is that this is ridiculous: the idea that people will loan large amounts of money based on a red or green text under a username on an internet forum.


FTFY.  Indeed it is a substantial amount.  Indeed, it is a shameful situation.  However, I don't see how the vultures circling with their mindless feedbacks and their mob-mentality of justice helps the situation.  In the best case at this point, Maidak will make a repayment plan and fulfill it.  How does many, many echoed feedbacks help him acheive this.  All I can see that it does is that it poeple start posting in meta that "I neg-repped Maidak before you therefore I am the new Vod."  Someone else replies "I have given out 50 negative feedbacks this week, if I were on default trust, no one would ever be scammed!"  These kinds of arguments are clearly spurious and, as I have said, I believe it weakens the culture of the forum to promote the idea that people don't have to think for themselves before trading or sending money to someone---the idea that a green light on an internet forum is a reason to forget caveat emptor and close your brain.  And that's the culture I'm complaining about, one where a mob of people rushes to neg-rep anyone and everyone for some false promise of a world without scams.  Then, people who get trampled in the stampede are just the collateral damage.

Maidak has repeatedly been trusted with many thousands of dollars over the years. He had a reputation of being someone who could be trusted with $10k without having to worry about your money. If it were not for the negative trust he received then he would still have the reputation that he could be trusted with large amounts.

The reason why Maidak was able to scam as much as he did was because people neglected to report his scams. After he accepted the money from the guy he owes $5k to, someone else had sent him several thousand dollars to him but never sent the bitcoin, it was reported a few weeks later, maidak received negative trust, then he repaid that person (probably hoping to be able to accept even more money from someone else). As it stands prior to the creation of this thread, if someone were to have done their due diligence they would have seen that sending maidak $10k would not be a risky move. If it was not for the trust system setup the way it is then someone doing their due diligence would see this thread as nothing more then an extortion attempt and/or someone trolling maidak.

I have not seen one thread in meta created to brag about how many people they sent negative trust to.

Woodcollector has gone as far to essentially admit to scamming people yet tecshare still defends him and says that wood collector is not a scammer :D

It does, because exactly like tecshare your off topic and irrational arguments are biased by your previous experiences of the feedback system and it's the only reason you're complaining here, just like tecshare. Never a peep about feedback until both of your incidents then you both start shitting all over the place any time you can. It's annoying and only makes people lose respect for you.


So how else are people supposed to decide who they can and can't deal with? If it wasn't for the feedback system nobody would have anything to help them decide who can be trusted with what.


Oh do shut up. You're being ridiculous not to mention annoying now. He's stolen money. You can't rob a bank then say "I'll pay it back when I can" so everything is gravy. He's stolen money. End of. If he pays it back the politest thing I'll be able to say about him was he deceivingly took out several interest free loans on his own terms to try get himself out of trouble, which is still dishonest and scammy and he wont be trusted with money again that's for sure.


You don't see how it helps? Who else has been scammed by maidak on here since he was given the appropriate feedback? It helps because he's unlikely to scam more money from people.


Yes, that's the best case scenario but how he manages to pay it back is irrelevant. Don't scam money from people then he wouldn't be in this situation. The feedback is there in an attempt to put a stop to his behaviour. So far so good, but like QS said had it been put there earlier he likely would have gotten away with a lot less.


And this is why you are exactly like tecshare. You talk about ad hominems but why are you complaining about people trying to be the new vod? Completely irrelevant and off topic, and exactly what tecshare did every single time and it was just his way of attacking those on default trust for trying to do the right thing. It's pathetic. If you don't want to get compared to tecshare then don't do exactly the same thing he did by trying to demonise people for using the feedback system appropriately all because you fell fowl of it.

Actually, I made several posts about this kind of trust-rangering previous to my "incident" (where, by "incident" you mean a particular trust-ranger attempting a character assasination attack with several alts and threats and all kinds of nasty behavior).  Anyway, if you want to make such a statement, it's important to get the facts straight.  I was complaining about the trust-rangers long before QS attacked me.  Vod and I were able to have several discussions about it which didn't escalate to name-calling or false accusations, or anything else.  I think it's important for you to try to maintain that here.  I'm not attacking you, I'm disagreeing with your ideas.  Saying that "this makes me just like techshare" is indeed a fallacious logic, a red herring. I don't see what techshare has to do with my ideas and I don't appreciate you attempting to discredit me by (false) association with somene who's not in this conversation.

  Well, it's starting to seem like politeness maybe isn't your strong suit.  But, and please understand that this is only my opinion, I really don't see that "robbing a bank" (a violent crime) is the same thing as failing to repay a loan.  And, again, in my opinion, the escalating theatrics don't help anyone.

This is not logically valid.  I'm sorry if you think I keep harping on this, but in my opinion, rational thought is important.  This particular fallacy is called "post hoc ergo propter hoc".  The idea that because A occured before B, that means that A caused B. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc)

It seems weird that you'd say that "how he manages to repay it is irrelevant" (robbing a bank?), but then again, maybe I'm just misunderstanding whatever point you're making here.That's unsubstantiated speculation.  But I repsect you and QS' right to speculate.  I hope you can respect my right to disagree.

FYI, the ad hominem fallacy is when you attack the person instead of the idea.  I didn't attack you personally.  And mentioning Vods name in quoted speech isn't attacking Vod.  This is misdirection.  As I said above, while Vod and I disagreed often, we had very resectful disagreements and didn't call each other names and even exchanged PMs from time to time about some of the issues with the trust system.

Well, perhaps I'm in the wrong here.  But when I look upthread I see that allyouracid made a post about how so many people uninvolved in the situation were negrepping Maidak and you wrote that he was "ridiculous".  I happen to agree with allyouracid and to disagree with you. I'm sorry you see my opinion as pathetic.  I don't know what else to say though.  If it's okay for allyouracid to talk about this, and it's okay for you to call him ridiculous, why isn't it okay for me to say "I don't think it's ridiculous at all."?

Perhaps by "fell fowl of it" you mean "were abused by someone jockeying for power on it".  Anyway, I agree that things seem to have gone afield of the original conversation.  I hope you can try to respect my right to disagree with you.  I respect your right to your opinion and you'll note that I haven't resorted to calling you names or insulting you.

Best,

--TSP

New users may not be able to judge the evidence that is being presented. This is why more experienced traders are in the default trust network as they are more able to accurately come to the conclusion that someone has scammed in the past. There are plenty of baseless accusations out there and without the trust system inexperienced users would not be able to conclude who should be trusted and who should not be.

You need to remember that scammers also like to create and purchase a lot of accounts and use such accounts to give trust to themselves; without the default trust network, it would be easy for scammers to make themselves look like it is appropriate to trust them with larger amounts of money (or any amount of money).

I think it is very strange that dooglus is in the business of selling trust to scammers. How much interest did you give him for that loan? IMO someone on default trust should not be selling trust and they should be removed once it is exposed they are selling trust. Maybe it is that dooglus has no ethical issues with exploiting sites (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1106133.0;all) with vulnerabilities/bugs in them. 

The point is that the current trust system has made it much more difficult for someone to come to the conclusion that maidak should be trusted with large amounts of money.

BTW maidak did not take out any kind of loan. He took bitcoin and agreed to give his trading partners a similar amount of fiat back plus or minus some percentage (his commission for buying the bitcoin), however he did not follow through on his end of the deal. It could not be any more clear that he stole money from the two people in question.
$username, candystripes, you, Woodcollector, DaDice just to name a few. They all have either farmed trust, fought for a weaker trust system or both. All are scammers, some were exposed later in their crusade then others.
The suggestion of how to "fix" the implementation of the trust system would certainly weaken the trust system, this is without any doubt. As I documented above, the people making these arguments are scammers, without exception. Even maidak was asking for his trust rating to be returned to normal so he can trade to earn enough to repay the people he stole from. When this didn't happen he tried to trade with people by bumping his currency exchange thread once, but he was really never active after that ::)

BTW - it is very difficult to make an on-topic reply to your off-topic posts. I am not an expert on the posting etiquette on this forum, but on other forums it might be more appropriate to post your comments that are off topic in a more appropriate thread.

Kind Regards
Panthers52   

I understand this argument.  However, I don't agree with your conclusions.  I hope you can respect that.Yes, and some people (surprisingly enough) are selling these default trust accounts for profit.  How does that affect your trust in the "default trust" network?I think it's very strange that you accuse me of being off topic but here you seem to be talking about something completely unrelated.  If you have questions about dooglus or a loan he gave me, or anything along those lines, perhaps you should PM either of us, or start a thread about your questions if you want them to be public.This is an assertion, not an argument.  I hope it's okay for me to disagree with your assertion.
Unpopular is not the same thing as off-topic.  allyouracid wrote about people uninvolved in the situation giving many repetitious negative feedbacks.  He was called ridiculous and was diagreed with.  I happen to agree with him and I tried to argue why.  Now both you and hilarious have replied to me with insults, accusations, and references to other situations and people (tecshare and dooglus) and then you go on to say that I am off-topic.  Please, gentlemen, I don't have anything more to say to you about this.  I hope you can allow me to disagree with you without attacking me personally.  If you want to talk about other situations, there are other threads.

Hm... might have been enough to clear his reputation on bitcointalk.org with that amount of money. This didn't happen yet so i wonder what happened with that amount of money.

Or was the one giving that rating one of the scammed ones on here?

Anyway... seeing that gives not much hope.

Maidak? I'm actually surprised to read another forum user claiming the same ridiculous opinion that maidak, a legendary scammer on bitcointalk that scammed k of thousands USD should have no red trust rating, no zero trust rating but instead a nice green trust rating.

Well, i wonder if you thought that through. If you did and you still demanded that then i wonder what kind of person you are. You would help scammers all the way to proceed scamming it seems.

I will assume that you did NOT think this through. ::)

And which abuse? Warning because a persons scammed? That is abuse? If real abuse is happening then threads are opened and people drop from default trust list. It's working for the most part.

Yeah... the trust system is not perfect and as long as members on default trust did not do something really wrong, they will stay on default trust. It is a system, though not a perfect one. If a better system can be suggested go on.

And it wouldn't have mattered when only some people not on default trust would have rated him negative. What a potential user would have done would have been checking his trust... very green. Then maybe check trust page... all green too. That already would convince practically everyone that he is no scammer when all established members say so.

Only a very small percent would have opened the non default feedback, or would have known about that link at all. And then they would have to go through a massive list of feedback.

Sorry but that would definitely NOT work.

I tried to find what you are referring to but i could not find a thread or accusation against dooglus that he might be involved into trust selling. I really can't imagine that. Dooglus is very trusted. He held 10 of thousands k bitcoins on just-dice and paid them all back when he stopped allowing bitcoins on just-dice.

What are you referring to?

The rating is from 10 days ago although clicking on that person's profile shows that he has not authenticated in 43 days so I am not sure exactly what happened or when it happened.

Maybe someone who knows more about OTC can give more information about that rating.

First off, I'm a person trying to build my opinion based on logic. And I'm able to reconsider if reasonable arguments (those beyond "you are ridiculous" - hilariousandco, you would do me a big favor if you restrain from bringing the discussion down to this level) are brought to the table. I consider this a good property.

Well, one thing I obviously did not think through might be the fact that if only those who were involved in the trades gave negative feedback, his overall feedback would still be green, giving a wrong impression to potential trade partners. hilariousandco pointet that out already, I think.
Nevertheless the system, as it is, leaves margin for errors and abuse (who is to decide whom to trust, whom to mark as scammer etc?), but I think at the end of the day, there is no such thing as a perfect implementation of a trust system, and best which can be done is to make it as good as possible and keep good track of who is being trusted.

There were already some threads of users who felt treated wrongly. I read their stories and came to the conclusion that in some cases, the negative reputation was unjustified. I hope that I don't have to go searching for those threads, as I only sporadically read the BCT forums over a long period of time, and I'm not sure if I could find them.
But there we are again at the point of no system being perfect. As I cannot come up with a better solution, it might probably be best to stick with "sometimes, it fails, but in many cases, it is helpful".

While it still feels somewhat wrong to me when people not involved in any trades make feedback about the users involved in said trades, I understand your point that in my version, he'd still have green feedback, giving a false impression about his trustworthiness.
As the idea of this forum is to let things regulate themselves as much as possible, I should maybe think of those giving feedback in such cases being part of the self-regulatory system.

Even though I'm not exactly new to this board, I consider this a compliment. :*

Great that you can overthink your opinion. It shows grandeur to be able to do so. Many are not capable of that.

Saying that... you are right, the trust system surely is not perfect. But till now i did not see a proposal that would work better. There are proposals that would be a better system but it would not work because it would need work by every member. And that work surely won't be done.

He was saying that you don't know what you are talking about. I am not sure how or why someone would take that as a compliment.

Maybe that is just how people who argue for weaknesses in the trust system think

What kind of thing do you have with me and weakening the trust system?
I suggest stopping that stereotyped thinking and reading my posts again; if you still don't understand what I'm saying, I'll be happy to explain to you what I'm talking about. And what sarcasm is, too.

No one bothered to say that I sent Maidak almost 4k and it took him around 2-3weeks ish to deliver the BTC. But after I made a scam accusation he payed me back pretty quickly BUT one month before this topic was made, sometime in early may, I sent him 250$ and he was supposed to send me 1 BTC but he never did. I never bothered to say anything on the forum because I figured if he didnt run with 4k why would he with 250. But he did.

It looked like he filled up his debts by asking for debts from other users. Like sending coins or funds from "his partners". Though those partners then had the same problem. Running after their money.

I really don't know how he could allow his financial problems intervene with his business. That is not acceptabled but his status let it run for some time.

Because it appears that his business was scamtastic. When someone bought 4k worth of BTC from him, he didn't actually have 4k worth of BTC, he took the 4k, and held onto it until he could buy enough BTC to pay the original person, hopefully for less than 4k.

Like the scammers who just borrowed from one person to pay back another loan, it works great until people stop lending you money and playing along, and then they just run away with whatever they are left holding at the end.

I hate to revive a dead thread but I figured I would update everyone it looks like derrik goon has really gone MIA. The phone number I had for him stopped working a while ago and if you call his google voice number it just rings and rings.

According to

http://odrc.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search.aspx

and

https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/

he is not in federal prison or jail in ohio,

however he did deactivate his facebook within the last few days which is why I am posting this. he reactived and I messaged him and he seems to want to pay back his debts and he even paid me back in monetary terms,

I was keeping in touch with him kinda since he owes me 1 BTC (but really like $250 at the time he scammed it)

If anyone as his address I would love to write him!!!

I suspect that he probably got new phone number(s), and changed(?) his google voice number to forward to a number that he no longer uses. This is not uncommon behavior for deadbeat debtors.

Maidak had opened several threads with business proposals that involved him potentially being entrusted with very large amounts of other people's money all not long before he was called out on being a scammer, so there is little doubt in my mind that that he was planning a long con exit scam.   

MAIDAK PAID ME BACK IN FULL ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AGO

I have been talking to him and he wants to pay all of his debts.

https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/a624c3e600d21e719cec435a9a64c62b3e897422dd821b3e5106500e425b19e2

The transaction where he gave me 0.14 btc
Looks like he has at least 0.26 btc to pay back others

Wow... seldom to hear something like that happening. Maybe labcoin, activemining and and and can step forward also please? :D

yeah wasn't scamming anyone.. trolls.

Wow, that's amazing to hear.

I have never seen anyone that has came up with the funds and the balls to repay someone after all these years. You are truly the first to do this, and thank you for making the community better here at bitcointalk.

shdvb let us know when you are repaid please :) Hopefully this ends well for everyone.

HI I just got to read this a few years later and Pmed you just now @maidak.

HAve you lost a good supplier of bitcoin miners?I have heard that Firedcat in China is lost.

Maidak is selling their account now. Has everyone been made whole? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5324236.0 https://web.archive.org/web/20210407205142/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5324236.0

They would be shvbd refuses to change his feedback because I was a competitor in the past to him as far as the crypto to fiat trading goes.

Well now that we know you're selling a Twitter account, all those neg feedbacks aren't exactly as relevant as if you were selling your BCT account...

I have said before that this name will never be sold and this name is associated with my real identity. Maybe an accident happened to me but I have always tried to be honest and will do my best, to be honest in the future. The negative feedback you see still bothers me today, I've been the victim of some bad things but I've tried my best to stay transparent, because I believe everything will be judged one day.

Contacted this dude multiple times you know backstory here a little bit since the slander is at this point becoming some player hating bulls*** His $400 was lost for starters because from what I remember it was some paypal mycash card which inevitably got banned because  as you know it that was a really easy way to ''wash'' money. I was told these were safely purchased users just wanted anon purchases an I acted as a proxy for that purpose.

Honestly I try to avoid this childish confrontation but you guys really think i would of thrown away a multi million dollar name that escrowed on this website alone well over 10million USD and we're talking back from 2013 onward? Oh an get a ban on the sythe.org forums as a reputable buyer and seller effective middleman in another china dominant market which was the purchase an sale of Runescape gold as it would?

To be honest I helped push bitcoin into China and accelerate the FUCK out of this currency you guys are using today trading at values we only LOL'd about on this forums.  I've contacted and paid everyone back and if theres anyone missing I didnt pay which I'm 100% on this because the only other person was Frankie and tbh I've called and talked w/ this person over the phone multiple times. Honestly shortly after my reputation being shit on and then losing the love of my life. I turned to drugs I didn't look back at this currency which saved my business mmoclub.com from completely going under when the users above Paypal MYCASH flagged the shit out of all my paypals and then locked me out of 95% of my entire payment network.

Honestly this dude can suck my ballz he's rude as hell and I was better than him at offering you tools who want to do peer2peer trading and he didnt like the competition. Yet you sheep just wanna have something fun to talk about because none of you care to actually educate yourselves and I dont know maybe realize ya'll are going to lose the whole point of bitcoins purpose I'm seeing it happen time, time and time again. The funniest thing is your still letting these exchanges take your cryptocurrency right from your dumb ape dipshit hands due to the gap between the ones who get this space on a level very few understand yet it comes to me like common sense.

Hey SHVBD why not just admit you couldn't make no profit cuz i had this market so tightly woven and close because of my method was legit and I did this for fun. You wanted a living here well you got it buddy. Its okay though I forgive you and I hope you profited tremendous amounts off of the ones you were hedging on in this forums. You know the only reason i'm even giving a shit about this original name of mine is because i'm completely loaded filthy stinking rich on a level you guys will never be at. An this name is tied to my real identity which I also openly gave out and to be honest I only came back to help educate the MASSES that barely even look at this forums anymore.

I would like to give an amazing shoutout to those in this forums who mentored me, gave me the knowledge needed to develop into the entrepreneur/visionary I am today. One who still looks at that bitcoin white paper from time to time and doesn't try to stray to far from that abstract view which was brainstormed and deployed successfully working as intended I've pointed so many people in the right direction for this space to grow. Its a good thing I only blow up like this once in a while I will admit I'm starting to feel slightly autist after blabbering about this but i'm beyond the point of watching a reputation that went farther then anyone ive ever seen go in this forums & beyond.

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I didnt check this thread earlier and today I see so many replies.

Maidak I dont know your story but the fact is you scammed my 1.707 BTC many years ago.

Plus,I didnt get banned on sythe for selling runescape gold,my account is still active.

Still, PAY ME BACK THE BTC ! >:(

How about you tell them about your $500 mycash paypal card that effectively triggered my paypal to get banned for the only reason I could think off the top of my head being the fact that you used stolen cards to push out those mycash cards hence why you were selling them for a $100 discount if I remember correctly. An then telling me that you assured me they were safe.
If anyone was scamming it was you bro an after tossing my name in the dirt when my paypal gets a ban hammer I walked away.