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Two sources close to Kentucky country clerk Kim Davis tell Breitbart News that the gay men whose demand for a marriage license started her on a path to jail for five days are again trying to get her locked up.

These are the men who were seen on video shouting at Davis and demanding she issue them a marriage license in accord with the Supreme Court Obergefell decision that imposed gay marriage on the country. When she refused, Federal judge David Bunning jailed her for five days.

While Davis was in jail, her staff issued a marriage license to the two men, though without her name attached to it. The license was issued in the name of the clerk’s office. The two men were satisfied, as was Judge Bunning and the Governor of the State of Kentucky.

Upon her return, Davis began issuing licenses with “Pursuant to Federal Court Order” affixed. This newest version of Rowan County licenses did not affect the license issue to the two men. Even so, the men are back, saying the license they were so happy with a few weeks ago, is not sufficient They are demanding that Davis issue a new license with her name on it.

It is as if the two men believe the Supreme Court ordered Davis specifically to issue marriage licenses rather than simply guaranteeing that someone will issue marriage licenses to them.

This sets up yet another challenge for Davis and almost certainly for Judge David Bunning. Davis will without a doubt refuse. Bunning may determine that the men must be satisfied with the license they received.

Davis is at the Values Voter Summit this week. You can see her and her husband surrounded by a scrum of supporters and media. She receives an award from the Family Research Council tonight.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/gay-men-want-kim-davis-back-jail/


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The Pink Mafia in action. It was never about love

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/14/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-to-allow-marriage-licenses

I just want to serve my neighbours quietly without violating my conscience.
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The Pink Mafia in action. It was never about love


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http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/kim-davis-a-longtime-democrat-becomes-republican-amid-gay-marriage-fury-1.2581669

Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, a longtime Democrat, says she is switching to the Republican Party because she feels abandoned by Democrats in her crusade against same-sex marriage.

"I've always been a Democrat, but the party left me," Davis said, according to Bansley.

She sparked a national furor by refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples after the Supreme Court effectively legalized gay marriage in June. A federal judge ordered Davis to issue the licenses, but she refused, and opted to spend five days in jail rather than license a gay marriage. The ordeal propelled her to folk hero status among some on the religious right.

Davis was elected Rowan County clerk last fall as a Democrat. She replaced her mother, also a Democrat, who served as county clerk for 37 years.
But Republicans, not Democrats, came to her defence.

Davis meanwhile lumps blame for her legal problems on Steve Beshear, the state's Democratic governor, who refused to call the state legislature for a special session and allow lawmakers to hammer out a way to exempt religious clerks from issuing the licenses. The governor instead told clerks to either issue the licenses or resign.

The gay couple should divorce then re marry. To prove to the world how much they love each other...

Gay "couples" marry only to gain welfare payments. Unlike the heterosexual couples, there is no loyalty to the spouse. "Married" homosexuals will continue to indulge in sex with perfect strangers, and it is very much accepted in the gay community. Already tax payers are bearing the burden of subsidizing HIV medications to these people ($10 billion every year, in the US). Why the taxpayers have to pay even more money out of their pocket?

She's an elected official, she refuses to do her job, refuses to resign, she can't be fired, thus ends up in jail. I don't think she deserves to be in jail but she needs to leave her religious bullshit at the door where it belongs. Religion has no place in politics, it's just a convenient smokescreen to excuse bigotry and hatred.

So you agree the gays have no business forcing her to put her name on a piece of paper recognized as already perfectly fine and legal?

Why can't they move along in their life with their love? She is irrelevant to them now anyway.

Really?  Apply this principled approach universally or not at all.

State officials really need to follow the Federal Drug Laws, don't they, and arrest any and everyone in possession of or selling marihuana.

According to YOUR PRINCIPLES.

First they where fine with their piece of paper without her name on it and now they heared she's out, they standing at her desk again?! these 2 fools are looking for a troffee to put up on their wall, arn't they...

i have nothing against gay, marry a smurf for all i care ,but those 2 ....
that's just provocative and pathetic ...

The longer they do this, the worse their ROI will be. I want them to camp at her office for the next 2 years...

hahahahaha....  let's bring them soup during winter  :D

In the past also there were similar incidents in the United States. What makes this incident different from the others, is the quantum of punishment given to the official. These sort of punishments were not given out in the past, as the judges were more lenient. Times have changed. The SCOTUS is now controlled by the extreme-left and the LGBT.

No.

The actions are those of the US Attorney General, who is a puppet of Obama, who is a puppet of ....

... The Pink Mafia Brotherhood...

That's a dumb argument, smoking weed is totally like a specifically consitutionally protected act like marriage. If you want to make that argument then say something like

"Then those that issued same sex marriage licenses when it was illegal should be arrested as well!" example (http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/02/22/same.sex/)

And then I would say, I already said I don't think she belongs in jail.

Not going to cry over it either though. Bigots who support laws based on bigotry should expect backlash.

No, smoking weed isn't totally like a specifically constitutionally protected act.  Exactly the opposite.  

1.  Marriage -
State law issue.  Until the recent Scotus decision.

2.  Weed -
Federal law issue.  No Scotus decision.  No "Right."  A couple states make it legal, but it is still illegal at the federal level.

So does State trump Federal when you want it to (weed) but Federal trumps State when you want that to (Marriage)?

that's some screwed up thinking there.   Really there are no principles involved here at are, are there?  It's all about I want what I want and it's my right to get it my way and screw you.  I am able to change my opinion here if you can present a logical method to show why your approach doesn't just mean no principles, and no rule of law.

Yes. If the feds were to say same sex marriage is not okay, and states did it anyway, I would support that as well. That's because I support basic civil rights for human beings, marriage is one of them.


Yes, supporting giving people their rights back is horrible of me.

Then... The gays has no rights to force her to re-sign a document that is perfectly legal, and already signed and 100% valid. Would you agree with that?

Who said she was the boss of marriage ...she has been married 4 times..so much for the bible and living the law of her so called god..she is just homophobic..
she should not be put in prison she should be sacked for refusing to work..
its law that gays can get married..so she should sign the documents and if not then she should be sacked its as simple as that..
no one has to sign nothing if they don.t want to..but if your job requires you to then you sign and if you refuse then you go..

what i don.t understand is why as she not been sacked..if she was in the UK she be gone SACKED..
and good . AND I HOPE SHE GETS RUN OVER BY A BUS ;D ;D ;D
PLANET BE BETTER OFF IF SHE DIED ;D ;D ;D ;D
 ITS HER RELIGION :D :D :D :D :D
SHE IS A SLUT SO SHE IS GOING TO HELL ALREADY IF THERE IS A HELL..
MIND YOU WITH A FACE AND A FAMILY LIKE HERS SHE IS ALREADY IN HELL THE UGLY TWAT THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM..THE HILL BILLIE UGLIES :D :D :D :D :D

SHE IS A HOMOPHOBIC FAT UGLY TWAT ;D ;D
 

Look can we just have some honesty here?

You see something okay in Fed enforcing the marriage thing, but not in them enforcing the weed law? 

So who gets to pick and choose when and to whom to apply "law" to?

Leaving aside for the moment that this constitutes the very reverse of law, who?

No hiding behind vague slogans please.

Gay men wants Kim Davis's back in jail? :D Hehe, I guess it seems progressive for him.

Why do you expect more kind treatment from people who thinking other way than you than that what you proposed above :)? Actually why do you think that you are even a bit better than her? For your information, you are not a bit better than any homophobic. You are similarly intolerant, you are mocking her beliefs, and want to see her dead... just like the nazis about the jews some 70 years ago.

This is the real face of the pink mafia. Not a bug. The main feature. That one is honest about its need to kill anyone with whom it disagrees with. The more it talks the more you'll learn about it.

Pope Francis catches the Swine Flu: Pope: Workers Have 'Human Right' to Refuse Same-Sex Marriage Licenses



Pope Francis appeared to weigh in on the side of anti-gay-marriage clerk Kim Davis, saying government workers have a "human right" to refuse to carry out a duty if they have a "conscientious objection."

While returning from his visit to the U.S., the pontiff told reporters aboard the papal plane Monday that anyone who prevents others from exercising their religious freedom is denying them a human right.

His comments are likely to be seized upon by backers of Kentucky-based Davis, whose refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples — in defiance of a Supreme Court ruling — has turned into her into a folk hero among some on the religious right.

The pontiff was asked: "Do you … support those individuals, including government officials, who say they cannot in good conscience, their own personal conscience, abide by some laws or discharge their duties as government officials, for example when issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples?"

He did not refer specifically to Davis in his reply, saying: "I can't have in mind all the cases that can exist about conscientious objection … but yes, I can say that conscientious objection is a right that is a part of every human right. It is a right. And if a person does not allow others to be a conscientious objector, he denies a right."

Francis added: "Conscientious objection must enter into every juridical structure because it is a right, a human right. Otherwise we would end up in a situation where we select what is a right, saying, 'this right that has merit, this one does not.'"

Asked if this principle applied to government officials carrying out their duties, he replied: "It is a human right and if a government official is a human person, he has that right. It is a human right."


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pope-francis-visits-america/pope-francis-i-understand-anger-catholic-church-sex-abuse-victims-n434681


 ;D :D ;D

she spreads hate and FUCK ALL RELIGION.. SHE IS NOT RELIGIOUS...
SHE IS A FAT SLUT..BEEN MARRIED 4 TIMES..SHE MAKES HER OWN LAWS TO THE BIBLE..
SHE IS HOMOPHOBIC END OF STORY..

I HATE THE HATERS OF FREE LIFE..SHE STARTED THE HATE..
SO IF I FOUND OUT SHE DIED I WOULD BE HAPPY..1 LESS CUNT ON THIS PLANET ;D ;D ;D

MOCKING HER BELIEFS  :D :D :D :D
YOUR MOCKING MY BELIEFS BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE IS A FUCKIN STUPID HILL BILLIE DUMB INBRED FAT FUCK :D :D :D :D
 ALL RELIGION SHOULD PLAY NO PART IN POLITICS AND LAW..
PLUS IF SHE WAS A NICE PERSON SHE WOULD OF SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS WITH NO HASSLE..

THANK FUCK I LIVE IN THE UK ;D ;D
SHE WOULD HAVE NO JOB IF SHE LIVED HERE..
plus how can i be like a NAZI..I don.t kill but if by some fate a bus run here over then i would be happy..BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE IS A HORRIBLE CUNT..NOW YOU RESPECT MY BELIEFS  ;D ;D ;D
SHE IS THE NAZI ;D

http://s9.postimg.org/jt5w1kt0f/Untitled.png

Actually, I don't remember when did I ignored him. May be more than a year ago.  ;D

I am not too fond of verbal diarrhoea.

I CANNOT STAND YOU CUNT  bryant.coleman I HOPE YOU DIE TO I KNOW HOW YOU THINK :D :D :D
ITS CALLED VERBAL DIARRHOEA ..BECAUSE I AM TALKING TO DIARRHOEA..PEOPLE LIKE YOU  :D :D

YOUR PAIR OF STUPID FUCKS GO AND JUMP OF THE ROOF HEAD FIRST  :D :D :D
YOU TALK A LOAD OF DIARRHOEA

ALL YOUR POST AND THREADS YOU BOTH SET UP ARE A LOAD OF DIARRHOEA  ;D ;D

What are dpuf (extension) files?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21825611/what-are-dpuf-extension-files

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT..GIVE YOUR HEAD A WOBBLE DUMB ASS..
ITS THE JEWS FAULT ...WOW... ALWAYS BLAMING SOMEONE..
ITS NOT THE JEWS ITS YOU PEOPLE LIKE YOU..

At the end of the day she should be sacked for refusing to work..

Gays violate democracy because they are the minority.

2 Sources close to Kim Davis

Well, if you can't trust Brietbart (slogan:  We take Trump money for positive articles) and their unnamed sources, who can you trust?

Let me guess: Kos, Gore and Soros?

Funny how people with zero counter arguments tell your how to disregard your sources, but to believe everything they read as... Gospel.

Either believe in human rights for all humans, like the pope and Swine Flu here, or you don't...

"The US government long ago was subverted by the Illuminati Jewish banking cartel which is using it to impose a Communist tyranny based on their Cabalist  (Satanist) dogma. As a result, in the US, dissatisfaction with the federal government is at an all-time high."

- See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2015/09/KimDavis-is-a-genuine-American-heroine.html#sthash.LEDyzApZ.dpuf

This has too many big words.

Pope secretly met Kentucky clerk over gay marriage licenses

"Stay Strong!"



Pope Francis secretly met a Kentucky county clerk last week who was jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples and gave her words of encouragement, her attorney said.

Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis and her husband met with the pope during the Washington leg of his visit to the United States, after the Vatican reached out to her several weeks ago, ABC reported on Wednesday.

"It was really very humbling to even think that he would want to, you know, meet me or know me," Davis told ABC. "I put my hand out, and he grabbed it, and I hugged him, and he hugged me and he said, 'Thank you for your courage.'"

"He told me before he left, he said, 'Stay strong.' That was a great encouragement," Davis said.

Davis said knowing that the pope agreed with what she was doing "kind of validates everything."

ABC said the pope gave Davis a rosary, which she plans to give to her Catholic parents.

Mat Staver, attorney and founder of the Liberty Counsel, told CBS News that the pope met Davis and her husband at the Vatican embassy in Washington last Thursday.

Vatican chief spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said he would neither confirm nor deny the report and that there would be no further statement. This was unusual for the Vatican, which normally issues either denials or confirmations.

The report of the meeting came after Francis largely avoided the contentious issue of same-sex marriage during his historic visit to the United States, where he addressed Congress, met with the homeless and urged the country to welcome immigrants.

The pope, speaking to reporters as he returned home from his 10-day trip to the U.S. and Cuba on Monday, said government officials had a "human right" to refuse to discharge a duty if they felt it violated their conscience.

Staver, whose client was jailed for five days in September for refusing to comply with a judge's order to issue the licenses in line with a U.S. Supreme Court ruling, told CBS his team did not want to disclose the meeting until now to avoid interfering with the pope's broader message during his visit.

"Because we didn't want the pope's visit to be overshadowed with Kim Davis," Staver said in an interview on the network.
During the meeting, the pope told Davis to "stay strong", Staver said.

Davis has said her beliefs as an Apostolic Christian prevent her from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Her church belongs to a Protestant movement known as Apostolic Pentecostalism.

To keep a low profile, Davis went to the Vatican embassy in a sports utility vehicle with her hair in a different style than her normal look, Staver told CBS, adding he was not present.

Conservative Christians, including some Republican presidential candidates, have said Davis is standing up for religious freedom.

But the American Civil Liberties Union, which went to court to ensure same-sex couples can obtain marriage licenses in Rowan County, has argued she has a responsibility as an official to issue the licenses, regardless of her views.

The ACLU, in papers filed on Sept. 21 with the judge hearing the case, asked the court to require Davis to stop making alterations to the licenses, such as removing any reference to the Rowan County clerk's office.



https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pope-secretly-met-kentucky-clerk-refused-gay-marriage-080339619.html

Where in the bible does it say that gays can kill 350,000 of their own for sex?
Your bible appears to be alot better than the rest of ours.

What do you mean? Link?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/county-clerk-kim-davis-who-denied-gay-couples-visited-pope.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s144NBjxr6A

What's wrong with the current system? If you are trying to convince me that states should have final say no matter what, you won't. The history of civil rights abuses have proven it to not be the best method.  

You say that you want me to be honest and stop hiding behind slogans, while at the same time ignoring my comments, and trying to bait me into a states rights debate that's been had millions of times, so you can hide behind your slogan of states rights. Civil rights>state's rights.


Somewhat, but they do have a legitimate bone to pick in that they are being given "special" licenses. Seems like a scarlet letter to me. I'll leave that to the courts to decide.

Relationships exist outside of politics and religion

For what it's worth, the Pope has met with LGBT advocates, including Paraguayan Simón Cazal, a married gay man, just this summer. Cazal came away from his meeting with Francis believing that the pope wants "dignity for all." And if dignity for all extends to Cazal, doesn't it also extend to Davis?

I understand why that idea makes those of all political persuasions, and especially marriage equality advocates, uncomfortable. Davis, after all, is the beneficiary of huge amounts of heterosexual privilege she seems barely aware of, while someone like Cazal has had to struggle and fight simply to be recognized by his society and his church. There's an enormous power imbalance between the two in terms of how their societies regard them, and the activists who will rail against the pope for meeting with Davis are a necessary part of correcting that power imbalance.

But one of the hardest things to do in an era of political polarization is to accept that those whose viewpoints are diametrically opposed to yours are still human beings, who have fears and hopes and desires as surely as you do, and who are capable of both great and horrible things. It's often tempting to slot our political opponents into boxes that define them as narrowly as we suspect they define us.

But the central idea of Christianity aims to be an end-around of all of that. It's not about defining people within religious or political or even societal contexts. It's about approaching them as fellow human beings, travelers on this planet who might spit in your face but still deserve grace and forgiveness. That's an impossible idea to adhere to, which is what makes it such a powerful one. Regardless of where he falls on the marriage equality opinion spectrum, by meeting with both Cazal and Davis, Pope Francis is at least trying to live up to the standards he ostensibly represents.

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/30/9428133/pope-francis-kim-davis-jesus

But, respectfully, that's not what I am doing.  I am simply asking, if Federal Law is not to be applied equally, all laws to all people, then who decides which are applied?

Marihuana - is Federal Law.
Marriage - is Federal Law.

"What's wrong with the current system?"  You ask?  Should be obvious...

You can't even logically process your own bias. The court said the paper signed was valid. "Bone picking" has nothing to do with it, unless it was a political move by the gay couple, not based on #lovewins. There is no need to go any further. They are married. The Scarlet Letter will be on the face of the gay couple forever because they wrote that Scarlet Letter themselves, accepting to be a farce for all the world to see, a martyr for others like them to be free from people like davis, and send her to jail.

They should accept their martyrdom fully and be happy, forever and never.

Your are not alone here.   I get into arguments all the time over this very same thing.  Religion and politics do not mingle well and should not work together either.  If your an elected official you should keep your beliefs to yourself.  No one wants to hear them anyways.

Why pick on religion?  Is it somehow unique from other personal beliefs?

Let's NOT ENFORCE the federal law on IMMIGRATION and BORDERS.

Let's NOT ENFORCE the federal law on MARIHUANA.

FUCK YEAH, let's slap it to those religious bigots WHO WANT TO DISOBEY THE FEDERAL LAW.

Are you guys insane?

They are not abut destroying control, they just want to use it against people they do not agree with. Not insane. Opportunists.

If you go with that point of view, you need to realize that point of view may be used exactly, perfectly similarly against you tomorrow. 

That's why there is something called the "rule of law" behind "law."

That's why I ask the question,

"Are you guys insane?"

Alright..

Before I start, let me just state that I am a very liberal and left-leaning person. I am also a supporter of LGBT.

However.
This is embarrassing. This is basically what hicks w/ very little IQ sounds like.
They have these long conversations with people, and they get confused, then they begin these childish rants.

I find this especially disgusting as I have a part of my family [extended] who is like this.

Completely immature and illiterate, throwing childish insults.
Plus, the non stop caps and emoticons piss me off.

Honestly. Who says '

..BECAUSE I AM TALKING TO DIARRHOEA..PEOPLE LIKE YOU  :D :D

'

That is worse than my little brother who is starting kindergarten.

It's almost less of an actual insult, than how you want to brag about your single-digit IQ point value.

May I ask how old you are?

I am almost scared to ask, b/c you are either a  young/immature kid, who found this cool interweb money, and decided to sign up for the forum to post these rants, or you are an adult.

I almost don't know which is worse.

Absolutely disgusted.
Molotov.

Yeah. Hmm. Don't ask any questions. I tried at the very start but... Not worth it. Keep your liberal energy to fight me or people like me.

Ignore list. Done.

 ;)

Not you.
 ;)

Just checkin :)

How's your day going>

Who give a fuck what you got to say you know fuck all PLANT POT ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
DOES THIS PISS YOU OFF SO WHAT DICK BRAIN :D

Plus what do you mean your family is like this..
so does your family hate gays
or is your family hill billy  fat ugly homophobes  ...
i answered your question now answer mine please..FUCKIN SHIT BAG

You pair of plant pots know fuck all about anything you post bullshit all the time..
pair of wankers...
plus what as being gay got to do with my post? DUMB ASS
You mention you support gay rights and your family is like this..AND WHAT..Why mention this fact..
TOSSPOT..

if you read some of my post i am a strong believer for gay rights..
So i am confused why would you mention that you support gay rights..
Or is it you that is the idiot DICK BRAIN TOSSER ;D

..
I have no problem w/ gay people, in fact, I have multiple relatives [close] that are lesbian / gay, and I love them very much.
My family[extended, not immediate] is rather hick-like, but they do not have a problem [that I know of] w/ homosexual people.

What I was referencing, was their likeness of vague, childlike insults and rants on social media sites to your very 'insults'.

The fact that you are the only goddamn person on this thread who is trying to start shit, swearing, is the reason for my reply to this thread.

Not the fact that my family is anti-gay.

You never answered my question by the way.
You just threw some half-baked curses my way.

I am very close to hitting that ignore button, as your response on this thread and other threads, where discussion may be controversial to other views, but never angry/curse-worthy, you decide to run your mouth.
Then when someone answers you, you reply with incoherent babble and curses thrown in.
Please answer my question.

Prayers go out to your future career in Walmart.

molotov

fuck your prayers fuck your gods i hate talking to people like you ..
and i live in the UK the best country on this planet..
It all started because i insulted the women who said no to signing the documents ..
she is a fat ugly hill billy inbred cunt..if you don.t like how i put it so what ..
but now you mention prayers it sounds like your a hill billy inbred ugly twat :D :D :D :D :D

now you going on my ignore list BYE PLANT POT ;D ;D ;D

You are wasting your time and force everyone else who put her on their ignore list to read her replies... Do not quote her if you want this back and forth to go on.

You are right.

I am giving up on this sad sap.

His arguments don't even make sense.

He's like the definition of shitposter, I now see why people hate liberals..

:/

now ignored.

 :P He is the only liberal I have ever met that I have disliked though.

She has been ignored by you. Still hope for you my dear padawan, there is.  Yes, hmmm.

Well, I am not truly on one side or the other, I just hold a tad more liberal views than I do conservative.

Also, I don't appreciate the anti- everything conservative attitude.
I think we would be a hell lot further developed as a country if the republicans weren't sitting around putting stops to every possible new idea.

But I do have a few right-leaning views.

I believe the same thing, but with democrats, when I think of Soros...


PopCornTime!

 :)

Who is Soros? Sorry, try to follow politics, heard of the name.
No idea of who/what he did.

Hey, I have this really good idea.  The problem here is that this forum is unmoderated so people can say any disgusting lies they want.  We can fix this.  Here's how - just vote me in to moderate the forums, and then I'll ban people whom we don't like or want.  You know, it's for the common good.  Don't worry I'll figure the details on that out.  And everything will be a lot nicer because you won't hear or see a lot of negativity because they'll be gone.  I'm sure you understand that you'll have to stay within limits, too.  Reasonable limits, basically don't argue with anything I say and agree with my friends.   My friends will send me messages on who to handle different ways.  Some of them are secret friends and say outlandish things to try to provoke responses.   They help me find out who really isn't on our side.  If they're not, they're gone. 

<<<Sarcasm TOTALLY>>>

I love george soros, 0bama and al gore...

She has the right to oppose to the gay marriage.

Awesome.....lol

Then it'll be tossed out of court, or the judge will tell them to fuck off. People have the right to air greivances if they feel they have one. Don't be so quick to blindly accept something an authority figure says, just because it lines up with your personal beliefs.


 

Religion has very little to do with it, it's about the rights of the people to get married. Religion doesn't give you the right to take someone else's rights away. 

You are right.  It doesnt. But people in and that are highly religious and see things only there way need to understand this.  Most dont.  They think it is this way and this way only.
I dont see it much different as me blocking the door to a church.  Im blocking the door because I believe you shouldnt attend church.  So I wont let you.   I would never do that but.  Wouldnt be much difference.  Kim Davis should sit in jail for a while and be made an example out of.  She is in no place to say what happens to someone else. 

They should lock her up in a room filled with lesbians.  And have them talk about getting married all day.  Wonder if it would deive Kim nuts?   LoL

You and the prior poster are misdirecting, to avoid the substantive argument made.  The misdirection is simply to flog the offensive illegality of the lady's action (or from another point of view, her heroic disobediance.)  But if you can't address the substantive argument, you are just expressing your own opinion that it's fine for one political group to selectively enforce and not enforce the law.  Hence my question -

Why pick on religion?  Is it somehow unique from other personal beliefs?

Let's NOT ENFORCE the federal law on IMMIGRATION and BORDERS.

Let's NOT ENFORCE the federal law on MARIHUANA.

FUCK YEAH, let's slap it to those religious bigots WHO WANT TO DISOBEY THE FEDERAL LAW.

Are you guys insane?

Suppose it is a battle of morals to laws.
Marijuana ain't that bad, but it is a federal-ly banned thing.
Which either means the law should change (which it will within 2 years) or they got to stop the state laws.

This country is built on immigrants, the only people who aren't immigrants are the Native Americans.

However, the whole love wins law was recently put in place, so people are more up in arms about that.

I think laws need to change.

So laws need to change.  So fucking WHAT?  That's true anytime in the last hundred years on any number of subjects.

The laws that get enforced should be -

A.  Whatever prosecutors want
B.  Whatever you want.
C.  Whatever some group that shouts the loudest wants.
D.  Whatever your political party wants.
E.  Laws on the books need to be enforced equally.

Please stop the bitching, moaning, endless praise of your own point of view, demonizing of other people and their views, and try to simply think this matter through.

Laws should be enforced equally. However they are not.  I live in a commonwealth state.  Some laws and punishments to to be all over the place.  One person nailed with possession of marijuanna on there first offense can get 5 years while someone with the same charge and first offense can get 2 years.  Sentencing and laws seem to be all over the place.  It also goes on how much you have when caught.  Which shouldnt really matter.  Your in possession period.  1 gram or 3 grams it should still be the same.

It should never be about what the prosecuters want.  Thats just a bad idea. Thats opening a door to have them fry someone for whatever they feel they want.

It shouldnt be about what the political parties want either. We all know how that is already going.

What it should be about is what the majority of people want.  All people who would want to vote on laws.  Instead of voting on poloticians.

The law makers themselves in legislature should be bias on what laws are put into effect and what they vote to pass.but you know as well as I do.  That everyone has there opinion and that is what persuades a vote for law.  Its like being on jury duty.  12 people are supose to be unbias but everyone always has there own thoughts and opinions. 

Laws arent much different.  People (lawmakers) can and i am sure do use there own opinions to pass laws.

It should be about what us the people want and not what parties want or feel we the people should have.  I know there are many laws in place that I never voted for nor do I want them.

Well, you see....we are pretty much in agreement on ALL OF THAT.  Now comes the difficult part.
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THE PRIVATE ISSUE:
Someone has a moral and ethical disagreement with a law, and is willing to stand up against it, in spite of possibly grave personal consequences (jail, public ridicule, etc).

HERO OR VILLAIN?
I say, as long as it's a non-violent protest, HERO.
That goes for MARIHUANA, IMMIGRATION, MARRIAGE.  And countless other issues.

THE PUBLIC ISSUE:
Public officials have a moral and ethical disagreement with a law (for now let's say it that way, the reality is often they are pushed in a direction by political pressures) and they enforce law selectively, and choose whom to punish selectively.

HERO OR VILLAIN?
I say VILLAIN. 
That goes for MARIHUANA, IMMIGRATION, MARRIAGE.  And countless other issues.

So you do support standing up against unjust laws like refusing to let gays marry, as long as it's someone who can't actually do anything about it.

It makes no difference what I think.  

I am only trying to clarify the underlying and substantive issue, because I don't care one rat's ass about you spewing polemic about some evil Republican religious knuckled dragging degenerates because you, sir, are no exemplary example of Enlightened and Progressive Humans, at least judging from past posts.  You are not the one standing up against anything, but simply coming along behind those who have done so, babbling, one voice in an ocean of babboons, one might say.

Let's here what your votes are on the two issues cited.

I just found it amusing that you claim to only support non violent protests, yet this whole thing started because a certain group of people were using threat of force via laws to oppress a minority. But that's okay because blargh state's rights urgh, plus your invisible sky god said so. Speaking of insanity.

Yet a bigger bully comes along and does the same thing and it's suddenly a problem.

Why can't the religious folk stick to non violent protests? I'd be okay with that too.

When most people look at the world around them, they see only the trees; they do not see the forest that is there. It should be obvious that God exists because of His creation, not only us humans, but the world we live in, the galaxy that world is in, and the universe that the galaxy is in.

You're entitled to your beliefs.

Your belief does not mean you have the right to take away the rights of others.

If you believe gays being married is a sin, then fine, that's your right. Do you believe sins should be enforced under threat of violence via law, and everyone should be jailed for all sins?  

The bible is old and outdated, many common things are "not allowed" if you take everything it says literally.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read on this Forum. Any facts to back up your bullshit? Seriously, if you have facts I'll delete this post.

Bryant, why don't you just save us time and admit you hate gay people?

Kim Davis is a not a great Christian, she's a hypocrite...

• Greed - she continues to collect her paycheck even though her job now compromises her religious beliefs
• Sloth - she fails to resign from her post as keeping her post forces her to disobey her beliefs and compromises the religious conviction she is now "campaigning" on
• Wrath - she hates gay people who want to formalize their love for each other with the State by getting married
• Pride - she is so prideful of her "steadfast conviction" to Christian tenets that she will directly disobey the law and people that elected her to office

This woman needs to spend a lot of time reflecting on herself, who she is, what her beliefs really are. Then she needs to try to live her life to that model - if she believes gay marriage is a sin, she needs to resign and not take money for a job that she believes is the devil's work. She needs stop breaking the law. She needs to stop imposing her beliefs on her neighbors (which is what the earliest opponents to Jesus did to Christians with his crucification.)

Between me and you, you are the ONLY ONE blabbing about "states rights" and "invisible sky god".