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I think stock exchange one can make money in the long run but in gambling most likely every one will lose money. What you guys think?

the only difference betweek stock exchange and gambling i know is in stock exchange you dont control your money as you are only waiting for the stock market if it rises or not while in gambling you control how much you want to bet in each roll/play

there is a huge different in stock exchange n gamble. stock exchange is usually depends on what is their decision and you predict whether it will be positive or negative. by looking up at news, you can roughly predict better in outcome. whereby gamble is mainly depend on luck.

Yeah, trading stocks could make money in the long term provided the person is not blindly buying and selling stocks (If he does, that is equivalent to gambling). If he does his homework and invests in stocks that he considers a good pick - growth or value buying, his investment could grow.
Investment.

Gambling is just luck (unless you play at a rigged casino ;D)
Entertainment.

The common element in both is risk. But both are completely different things altogether.

Gambling is straight up based on luck whilst trading in stocks require background knowledge of the market and how likely the price will rise or drop.

yes there is a difference since acquiring a a shares of stocks makes you like a part owner of the business and you get dividends after that, while gambling does not earn money like acquiring a a shares of stocks, you earn based on how much you staked and how lucky you are.

In long term, if you study the shares carefully and then invest, you can make profit. The overall stock index always rises in long term. One reason is the inflation. It is difficult to beat the inflation.

Stock exchange is more like poker where if you do your homework and practice enough its possible to make money long term.  Im sure there are many examples in the stock market where almost nobody could make mony though.

A stock exchange is a risk but unlike gambling there is a likelihood of guaranteed return if a stock has dividends, Blue-Chips tend to run for years without issues while volatile assets mean high returns and risks.
So in the long run it would be far more likely to have a positive gain in stocks than one in gambling if invested properly.

I think you are misunderstanding about gambling and investing. Gambling is pure on luck when you played on it and buying stocks is a great investing and buying some investment is always long run to go. Both of them are in different class. And gambling not always you will end losing, sometimes you will up and sometimes you will down, depends on yourselves to play it

Well when it comes to investing money, I would have to believe that if you do your research, are always in tune with the current news of things, and understand the basics of economics; then anyone could do just fine trading in the stock market... the thing is, is that if you are playing for the "long run" stocks, you would have to hear about something long before it becomes very popular.  There are probably a few stocks out there that are really unknown right now, but what the company provides is such a good nitch that no one has done before and there for will sky rocket with time to come.

I currently don't have any money invested into stocks as of right now, but if I were to guess on what type of companies will blow up within the upcoming years, it would have to be the cannabis pharmaceutical companies... It is such a nitch that hasn't been filled before due to legalities and the continuing legalization of pot and companies that are perfecting the use of CBD to cure certain illnesses; which would ultimately lead atleast one company into one of the primary stocks to hold.

Also, by buying stock, you're supporting the development of a company. By gambling, you're just using the company's end product...

I would invest in stock, but i'm not a big fan of gambling myself (altough i have gambled small amounts now and then).

definitely their is a lot of difference between buying shares in stock market and gambling, stock market buying shares is you calculate about the company performance and its values and assets then you buy that company shares  that it will give you high return on long term, but in gambling it is split in two types - if you play in casinos like dice , roulette in this definitely you will be losing in short and long term but if you are gambling in sports betting then it is same like shares buying because you prepare full report about the match played between teams and their performance. then you play on that match .

I think there is a big difference between betting and stocks.
Because with gambling there is always someone profiting of someone else his losses!
And gambling is created to make money and it's just in our nature to want to take risks.

But with stocks of course you take a risk to, but I think you have way more control.
That is why there are a lot more people successful with investing then gambling

And lets take poker it's a skill based game but there is also gambling/luck involved.
But you need skills to win consistently, is different from gambling, because gambling only takes luck!

That is why I would rather invest in stocks then gamble my money away!

Not even sure how one could compare the two because they are so different. You dont really have control in gambling as it is all chance based. (depending on the game ofc). As for stocks, if you know what to do it is possible to make a pretty much guaranteed profit. All it takes is patience and knowledge.

I think buying shares in the stock exchange and gambling have a lot in common because in both cases luck is a factor. However, IMO buying shares in the stock exchange, if you know what you are doing, is a much more reasonable thing than gambling. Because in gambling the situation when "you know what you are doing" is a self-deception basically.

Stock are something you don't control by your own hand, so you can't predict, similarly to gambling, but gambling you can rush it, stocks are slower

If you don't know anything about the stock market and you buy shares, it's same as gambling. If you do study the company and economy, it's investment.

I think it is hard for newbie to start doing some investment, wrong pick you will be busted but with gambling although you are not in luck you can still earn it but not that much

It is the same actually buying stocks is always a gamble because few months ago even the shares of apple inc went down and make some speculator lost some amount. The different with gambling is that you can take profit when you feel you get enough and exit if you think you lose enough

When you invest in shares, you can also take profit by selling. You need to do a lot of research on investment. If you do not want to invest directly, you can buy a index track fund. This will rise in every 20 year period.

Or, to be similar a bit to gambling, there is the day trade method, you buy some stocks in the morning and sell before closing. It's a kind of gambling. If the prices goes up, you win, if down, you don't.
It's also not necessary to hold for the whole day, if you feel that you had win enough, you can close your position earlier and realize your profit (or sometimes loss).

Investing in share market is nothing but your trust the business model and put your money for them to grow their business and later your expecting some profits from them but in this process you may lose your money if company didn't perform as per your expectation. But in gambling when you put money you need mostly luck to make money out of it so I prefer to invest money in share market than gambling.

Consider it the same as trading bitcoin, when it drops you will not lose everything but only lose some of it and in long term it is an investment. You dont need to do alot of research because it will be use less as well, just try to get the one that has the best reputation there like bluechip shares

Well you can gamble with informed chances. Stock exchanges have laws on stuff like inside trading, which is the same as having a 'hot tip' on a horse or a football team from a 'source'.

I think the best traders understand their market well and have a feel for the market's psychology.

Dice gambling is a bit different from sportsbook betting or stock trading in that regard. All involved elements of risk, too.

Both can be considered forms of gambling to an extent. Since we're talking about making a profit here - I'm going to ignore -EV games like dice.

The stock market foremost I would consider is more regulated than the gambling industry - specifically sports betting and poker. IMO sports games are more likely to have a fix - but for all I know there has been a lot of insider trading done which hasn't been caught. Both can be profitable - but both require a good analysis of historical trends alongside an effective way of making predictions (usually a mathematical model).

That's right, the system is really different, in stock you can analyze it and make a decision also make a profit, although the profit is not much as you want, but you can still earn profit.
In gambling, you just play with your feeling, it's make a lose.

If you choose a right stocks then the profits also very high over the time but choosing right stock at right time is the most difficult part in stock markets. If any one planning for long tern then stock market is different from gambling but if one planning for day trading then gambling and day trading not much difference both need a luck and no calculations will work out.

"choosing right stock at right time is the most difficult part in stock markets." I can never pick the right time to buy and sell. So the profit is small.

But it is so simple, like you have to buy at the lowest and don't sell until the highest :)
If you buy shares, there are several techniques to choose stock and term. If you regulate your risk, investing in stock is less risky than to gamble.

Yes i agree with you,on stock you can protect your money by using trading tools,stop looses,in gambling no,if you can gamble for fun with some small money ,that is ok no problem,but gample with bigger money you can loose very fast

If it's so easy then why so many people fail?
Next question: what if you buy low and it keeps going down? Wait or sell? What if you wait and it never recovers?
Trading is like playing cards, where unlike with dice or slots you actually have to make decisions.

Yes that is correct because stock price will not go to zero in one day or instantly like in gambling so one will have some time to react and take some of their money from stocks.

There is a smiley at the end of that sentence.
Of course it's not easy to trade but with risk management (diversification, using stop-loss techniques, etc) you can manage your trades, just need to stick to your rules.
If a stock you have bought start to go down, you have the stop which will automatically terminate your position, so you don't need to think about it at all. You have to think the trade over before you open the position, decide what are the stop loss and take profit prices and set them accordingly. So if the prices moves to any of the directions, you have already a solution set, and you don't need to worry.
Setting stop depends on what amount of loss you can accept in one trade (usually 1% of your capital) take profit depemd on how much you want to win on that stock.

To be honest, odds of you profiting from the market vs odds from your profiting from gambling (even with the lowest 1% house-edge), the trading has a much brighter outcome for you.

The more patient you are in trading the more you will gain from it and not make mistakes like stress-selling and buying cause "i might miss the jump", but the more you gamble on dice sites the higher your chances of losing cause the house-edge will catch up to you at some point. (Unless you switch client-seeds constantly, but that's not going to help you in the long run either)

If any one plan to do day trading then it is almost same as gambling because one need to be lucky to win money in gambling and similarly to win day trades one should be very lucky otherwise traders will most likely lose their money. But if any one plan to invest money in shares for long term perspective then it is different from gambling. Investors can make good money in share market in long term.

Day trading can also be very profitable and no, it is not like gambling if you know what you are doing. As said, it takes patience.
You can daytrade on news and make decent returns doing so. The opportunities might not come as often but if you keep an eye on many markets, then it is doable pretty much daily.

LoL you're wrong to understand what i said. I means and what i'm understand about buying shares is this investment plan for long term and people who want to invest is need do a research first about the market, it's make a possibility to earn more profit if you can analyze the market(this doesn't have with gambling).

You said about trading a day, it's means forex isn't? Well if you can analyze the market for today, you can earn profit today, otherwise, if you just take a position without analyze, it's not different with you do a gamble.

If you prepare for opening a position (analisys, research, etc) it doesn't matter how long you plan to leave the position open (daytrade, swing or long term) and if you use some stoploss method than it's not gambling. Daytrade is not only in forex market, you can buy and sell within a day on the stock market as well. So daytrade requires the same skills as long term trade or even better, because you have to react far more quickly to win, because of the narrower stop limits (on long term you can use bigger stops to catch the long term trends and not to be stopped by short term corrections meanwhile)

Gambling is a negative sum business for gamblers due to the house edge. Trading is positive sum game as the companies will generate some profits. If you buy and hold long term, you will definitely make profit, using stock index as an example.

But still it considered as a gambling your money because your trading based on some news and thinking that that share price may rise on given day but there is no assurance share price will move up right? that means your trade is based on news or luck is same so I still feel day trading need some luck to make profits.

Well I'm guessing stock exchange has better luck because you can actually predict if prices are going to rise or not. For gambling it's mostly luck. They both are types of gambling though.

Yes if one go for long term perspective in stock exhange then surely can make some money and that is can't compare with gambling

As you say both required some luck to get profits. In my view, stock exchanges ate passive way of making money in longer periods whereas gambling requires active participants but with huge risk. Stock market also has risk.

The price of stock market is not predictable in very short term. You do not know if the price will rise or drop for a specific share. That is the reason why day trading does not work for most people.

with stock you're investing in a product/company. Since most companies are trying to turn a profit (and most of them are quite good at it), you're likely to see your investment grow eventually.

With gambling however, you're likely to make the casino richer instead of yourself.

Although it's not totally predictable, at least you have an idea of what the company plans to do, like if they plan to expand or release a new product. You can analyze the consequences of the company's actions. Unlike gambling, where you leave everything to chance.

Yes. Stock market or individual shares are more predictable than a dice game, which is random and has a house edge. That could be the reason why stock market has more players than gambling.

Pretty much anything you do with money is a different form of gambling when you are investing, or something like that.  Even insurance is gambling(although some require you have insurance on certain things)  You are betting that you are either going to get hurt really bad or not bad depending on how much insurance you buy.

Stocks and bonds are insured so the gamble feels abit more secure.
That is not to say you can't lose it all playing in them in the market.
You have advisors who can tell you which stocks to buy at certain times when they would be profitable. As with gambling at the casino/lottery/draws who do you have for relying on for advice? Just your instincts and having pure luck!

Another pretty save way to earn money is to invest in gambling sites like Satoshidice (https://www.satoshidice.com/?a=508432037).

Each time someone bets and losses, you win a % depending on how much you invested.

If someone wins, you lose a small amount, but since you're betting for the casino, you're more likely to gain a profit in the long run.

Stocks are a gamble if you don't analyze then properly. You have to be able to check the business' line of work, recent changes, etc.

It's called "educated" guessing

Sorry if I am repeating some previous answers, but I would not compare gambling and trading even those have some similarity. Gambling is quite easy, just gamble and see if you are lucky, but in trading you have to know what you doing. In trading long run all assets are most likely to just lose their value after highest peak if nothing special happens, so you need to change your investments actively what makes it quite hard.

EDIT: Ofcourse you can try to find out best bump and dumps in trading too and make some income with them, but thats more risky than finding out rising projects or things where to invest :)

I think if you really planning for long term then buy shares are not really gambling but it is like investing with some risks because your believing on some business and investing thinking it may do good business in the future and bring us good profits so this we can't compare with gambling. Only if you do day trading then one need more luck to make profits from share markets

Yes, as per me there is lot of difference between gambling and buying shares from the stock exchanges. In gambling you will either win or loose and there are no second chance to re-correct or change the decision after loosing the money. But if the shares which you have bought are trading at low price then you can hold them until the prices are normal.

When you buy shares, there is dividends, which is due to the profit the company make. So buying good shares are quite rewarding.

i think you can invest and gambling with stock exchange but you can't invest with gambling  ;D

Sure you can invest with gambling :) there are gambling sites where you can invest your money in for a week or more and in the end you get some profit if the site does well within that time frame.

If you are patient with stocks, you will make money on the long term by investing in the index.
If you invest in particular stocks, there is always a chance that it doesn't do too well, but then again there is a chance that you do much better than the index!

With gambling, it's all based on luck and odds, and the thrill of course :)

Investors will be getting dividends only if company make profit otherwise no dividends will be given to investors. There are many small to medium range companies will not pay dividends because they are not in profits so when you invest you should study the company history and business model before buying any company shares. Off course if you invest in gambler either full profit or nil.

If you hold onto a broad market index of stocks for long time you should make money over time. This is why the stock market are exists to give investors a some profits in exchange for taking on risk over the time. But casino games are designed to have a negative expected return. If you play games in a casino then over time you will be losing money. This is because the casino has set the odds so that you will lose money more often than you will make it. So investing stocks for long time is different from gambling.

If you would know how manipulated any stock exchange market is, you would be thankful that you are getting odds, for example in sports betting. With these odds you at least know your chances. With stock exchange you know nothing.

I think that in the end, stock exchange and sports betting are just about the same. They are both just a gamble.

Yes both got very big difference investing in share market is for making profits for long term and gambling is for losing money instantly. So both can't be completely different.

They are different and not the same. In sports gamble you cant manipulate it but in stock exchange if you own a big funds then you can manipulate it just like trading bitcoin

I think stock market manipulation is not possible to every one but only big institutions are involved in those manipulation and one need a very huge money for it.

Yes it possible that there is manipulation of the stock market and I think the one of the company whom manipulate the stock are tge broker because they are holding a big volume of stock.

You should consider the long term trends as well, like in 2008-2009 the trend was bearish, but after the credit crunch the trend started to be bullish again, until the next turn. If you trade the indexes, you have better chance to earn profit but much less chance to earn big, like if you catch a company's share that starts to sky rocket in a short period. But for this you need luck and a lot of analisys about those companies.

In general, you earn less by tracking index than buying into a good company directly. But it is difficult to find a winner stock and stick to it.

According to one definition, investing is, “the act of committing money or capital to an endeavor with the expectation of obtaining additional income or profit.” What this definition lacks is the real difference between investing and gambling…research. Unfortunately, there is a huge crowd of amateur investors that ignore advice, “a share is not a lottery ticket…it’s part ownership of a business.”

Yes. The house edge.
Gambling houses have to pay things and have profits that must come from players, while stock exchanges don't have to take player's money away to exist

There are many types of gambling so it is hard to compare but stocks/forex/cryptocurrency exchanging are forms of gambling really.

And there is are lot of scam assets and brokers in forex markets and a lot of honest gambling companies and vice versa, so...

Trading on the stock exchange can involve a lot less risk than casino gambling for a professional trader. However, penny stocks are possibly more risky than a casino, There are classes of high risk stocks on a stock exchange from penny stocks to gradually lower risk ones. The penny stocks are often pumped worse than some pump and dump altcoins. When they get dumped you can lose your investment in an instant. IMO buying them is gambling, not investing.

I don't know much about stocks trading but for sure it's way better than gambling on random stuffs
there are some experts who are making good money from it but for sure the person should know what he is doing

The most famous stock "gambler" is Warren Buffet. He "gambled" in the stock market for 60 years, and he used to the richest person in the world.

I think you don't know the difference between gambling and investing that's your telling Warren Buffet is gambler. If was gambling then by now he wouldn't even have sing $ with him but he invested his money wisely that's why today he is a one of the richest person in the world. Lot of information available in internet to understand the difference between gambling and investing.

Is there a difference? You mean is there a similarity? Buying a stock share means investing a company. You can't compare this to gambling. (Unless if you don't know what you bought, but if that's the case you're already fucked up anyway.)
Do your own research and invest for right companies, you'll be safe.

This was discussed many many times in the past.

Basically both are considered risky because you can lose your entire investment. However you chances of making money in the stock market are higher if you know what you are doing.

Generally investing in the markets has been very profitable due to inflation and stock markets (except during recessions) tend to rally.

You can hold a stock if it drops by a lot but once you loses in gambling you lost your bet. Buying stock is seemingly less risky as you can hold for a long period of time.

That is a very good point. When the share price drop, you company is still there, it may recover one day. When you lose your stake, it is gone forever.

yes, in my opinion there is. I have a lot more control over my investments in a stock exchange as opposed to gambling. gambling is win lose, stocks are gradations of win and loss.

There's a big difference! With gambling, in many ways we can say that you are just playing with luck while if you invest in stockshares you carefully study the market and make the best decision on which share you should invest. In this case it doesn't luck has nothing to do it, but rather have the availability to invest and wait for ROI.

I guess any type of investment is a form of gambling. The casino type gambling is just less sophisticated

A kind of strategy ( or a common technique) that if a share price drops, you buy more to decrease your losses for the case if the price of the share starts to rise again. It's like: you own 2 shares, bought at the price of 100. Price drops to 50. If you just wait for the price to reach 100 again to get to 0 in loss. But if you buy 4 another shares at the price of 50, you only need to wait for the price to reach 75 and you can sell all the 6 shares and you also get to 0 again. It's more likely for the price to reach to 75 than to 100. The only risk in this case is if price won't go over 50 anymore but drops to 25, in this case you have a massive loss of 250, if you sell them.
If you still won't sell them, it's possible that after a period of time the price jumps to 200 and you become rich :)

Yes, There is a huge difference.
When I am buying shares in a stock I can study the stock and predict whether the stock will profit or make a loss.
Gambling on the other hand has only 2 options: Win or Loose.

To be honest I think it's quite the same. You can make huge risks in stock market if you want, and you can play it safe and just buy and wit to collect dividends, but there are no guarantees it will work.
You can do the same in gambling, you can even trade in sports betting, so it's al the same for me.

If you are gambling, win or loss is instant and unreversible. In case of stock trading you can decide and say if the game has ended (and you sell the stock with profit or loss) or you wait a bit more. If you wait, it can help your chances to become better.

well for stock, you can actually do some research to have a better knowledge of the situation to predict what will happen. and if you are really confidence of the stock, it can go up and up and up, not like gamble whereby you can keep going up nonstop just by having a 1time transaction.

Exactly, same can be said with gambling and forex. Roulette or blackjack is just faith in random number generation.

Stock exchange I think is better than gambling because if you're smart enough you can consistently win. It just takes longer but it is less risky.

I wouldn't necessarily say that it would be "less sophisticated" because there are a lot of strategies to a lot of casino games... maybe not dice per se, but poker and black jack hold some sophistication to it.

I think if you invest in some good companies and if you can watch out on company activities like what are the new products they are planning, how they manage their customers and how people think about their products they you can invest your money without much risk like putting money in gambling. Because after you investment if some bad news about company then still you can sell take some portion of your money back but in case of gambling you will get zero after losing.

Yes that is correct, if not constantly but if one plan for long time perspective then surely one can make some profits from share market but if you plan for short term like day trading then it will be quite risky but still you may not lose complete investments like in gambling if your smart enough when to exit.

There are some core differences of which I can think now:

1. Gambling is not time consuming while stock investing can last several years.
2. In stock investment you can limit your loses, if you notice that your stocks are unstable, you sell it.
3. Reading stock market is something that can be done more of less, you can never predict outcome of your gambling session.
4. In stock investment the more you can buy the better you end. With gambling there is no guarantee.
5. Gambling is pure luck based game. From the other hand with the right research, you are very unlikely to lose in stock investing. With Gambling you can always lose.

Yes gambling is not consuming because any way one will going to lose their money so again no need to waste time in research

Gambling and forex is almost same, but there are have a different, forex is have a features like stock exchange, but you can lose everything if you not use good analyze and play greedy. So if you take an order in forex without analyze before, it's same as you gambling with it.


Agree with this, this is what the big different between stock exchange and gambling, some people still think if both same, wrong, it's different. Stock exchange can't make you poor, otherwise gambling is do, if you start addict play too much.

That is correct, if any one gambling means it is more likely they may be losing that money at the end but in some cases it also need lot time to predict the end results. For example, in house racing people go mad in doing research work on jockey and horse for hours or even few days of analysis  before betting so in both cases time is required.

Yes it is true. Gambling also need a time to think who can win if betting in any sports so just take money and can't bet on someone. Both gambling and investing in stocks need time to check the history and need to take a decision. However to play games like dice no need of any thinking just need a luck.

It is true that you really need luck in gambling but in stockshare you will also need some luck, you can make a good decision just with study all the markets because sometimes people will also get some loss from stocks thats why you need a little bit luck to get some profit from it too. Both of them are same if you know how to control it

It`s similar in way how you can put your skill and experience in. For example sport betting you should have some interested and understanding of rules and players current perfromance. For investment in stock you have to show similar. I am not sure if I can say something like this for Casino, there is may be addiction of possible win only.

Some gambling such as poker relies more on skill as you bet against other players. Dice is mainly lucky based.

It looks like you never invested money in stock market but only put money on gambling so you didn't understood the power of buying stocks at correct price and hold for long time. You can find may investors made a very good money from stock markets but in gambling very few or almost no one make money over the time. There is a lot of difference between these two but only how you invest in stock market is matters.

it looks like if you buy shares need special skills and knowledge compared with gambling,
why do you say it's illegal gambling? whereas in some countries, legalized gambling

There is one thing common in both is that when you start loosing then you will suddenly losses all the money.In terms of playing both there is vast difference between the two.

But poker need luck to for your own card and on the table. Sometimes you hold Ace pair you will lose to three's or something higher than that. Every gambling game sure need some luck to play, there are no game that depends more on skill

It is all relative speaking. I mean luckiness play a less role in poker game than in dice game.

You need good luck in poker to get better cards. Some times, even if you have bad cards, you can still win with some techniques.

IMO, investing in cryptos right now is like playing stocks... it's just got more volatility to it and will give you the potential huge ROI if you pick a right moment to buy some.  I prefer not to think of it like that, because I see stuff like bitcoin to be actually useful as a currency rather than stock... but with the price increases as of right now, it's looking to resemble that.

Yes, there is huge difference between buying shares and gambling. In gambling you just have to depend on your luck and there are maximum chances of loosing the money and less chances of winning the money. On other hand you can buy the share after doing some research and checking the fundamentals of that company to minimize the loss and to make some profit.

That's true only when you know the shares aren't being manipulated. If you invest in penny stocks or bitcoin startups you can be sure there's somebody pulling the strings.

You need luck of course in connection with stock exchange as well. Just like last time when the VW emission scandal hit the price of the share. That time if you were lucky and you just sell your shares because of whatever reason before, you saved yourself from a huge loss.

While I do agree playing the stock market has more skill than gambling.  To say it is 100% skill is just laughable.  I would put it around 30% skill 70% luck.  Still way better odds than actually going on gambling which is like 95% luck for the most part.

Stock market keeps having those scandals and crashes etc, and in my opinion it's because it's jut like gambling.
They just play with the stocks trying to profit, and yes stocks reflect what is going on with the company and prime materials etc, but sometimes it's just pure manipulation, and that can be done in gambling to.

I think instead of luck we can say if one do not know how the company or business working then you need to depend on luck but if any one knows the company working business model then more than 50% skills are required to buy the shares and less than 50% you can say need a luck because in this competitive world any think can happen suddenly.

Investing in penny stocks is like playing gambling so if your not sure about how the company works and what are their product and you also should know the back ground of company promoters. If any good reputable person behind the company then surely you can buy for good profits otherwise only luck is need to make a good profits from penny stocks.

It's a commonly used technique also that someone buys a lot kind of penny stocks for cheap price, after a while 95% of them fails but the remaining 5% gives such a good profit that compensates the losses of the others.
This is also like gambling but seems to work for the big hedges.

Even if you know how the company is working you still have no idea what will happen to the stock.  People have made great products with great customer service and have failed, it has happened.  The opposite has happened too.

Yes there difference example  when you buy stock in high price then nxt day go down dont sell it you cAn hold the stock  you only lost When you by in high price then you sell in low price you lost your money,.

In stock market, some times, if you do not sell low and hold it for long term, the company could go bankrupt, you will lose everything. So have to take the loss, cut and run.

This is the hard part :) To be able to decide if you need to hold or to run :) If you can decide well you can win in stock exchane as well. But it's really hard. Not only luck (like dice) it's psichology as well. If you risk too much you can hardly take proper deceisons because of worry.

You can be the most knowledgeable poker player in the world and you can still lose. Skill alone is not enough of a factor in gambling.
In fact in most games it is rather insignificant. But from the other hand with proper knowledge about trading, stocks and condition of the companies you won't lose money on investing.

Are there proper investment sites, exchanges where you can trade real life stocks in BTC? Or, with using BTC it's only possible to invest in BTC related shares? Are BTC related shares' prices also so volatile as BTC price itself?

I think as long as you plan to do a trading for short term perspective even in investing in shares are not safe to make profits but if you go for long term just buy shares and holding few year time then surely you will get a good profits. But should buy a good company shares and must need to watch out an company performances regularly to make profits on your investments

doing the stock exchange in a nutshell is a higher form of gambling.

higher form meaning the result is the same if you lack to know how to setup for that trade, and other misc stuff. daytrading in general just sucks.

Stock market if do some research you will not lose all your money but in gambling you can lose all your money at one shot

I can't agree on that. It is true that trading, stocks, investing is great if you know how to do it but you will lose a lot too with a wrong movement and the loss is much more bigger than gambling because you need far more balance to earn more money. It is almost the same as gambling, the risk is the same but gambling dont need so much balance to earn more sometimes

are you sure for this?
i think that no difference between this things. Both are based on predictions of the future and on assumptions

Gambling is designed in such a way to make the casino owner profit. It is zero sum game, so gamblers will lose out eventually. Gambling is not an investment.

I think your not correct because if you do a day trading then only both will be almost same but if one invest money in shares with proper study of company future and ready to wait for few years then surely one can make money in share market. So I don't agree completely both are same but one must invest carefully after checking company and company promoters back ground.

Yes gambling is there only to give profits to gambling houses but players are crazy to beat the house tactics but it is almost 100% impossible to beat the house edge to win in gambling. So I think at some extend sports betting may be better because no house edge in sports betting. I usually play dice games to pass some free time with free money site provides.

Yes I agree with you however did you ever Sport bet in a real account. It looks harder then it actually is. Some games I think are even rigged with the outcome like the Super Bowl.

With investing you can't lost everything. With gambling it most likely happen.

I like to repeat this sentence: "An investment is simply a gamble in which you've managed to tilt the odds in your favor."

For me its kinda the same as gambling, they can go down and up almost as fast as bitcoin.
This far my investments did pay off, but the profit was with so co called crisis alot less rewarding.
Would i have done it again ... don't think so. the only reason why it not turned into a disaster is because i had spread it enough in lucky shares which countered the losses on the bad ones.
The only ones making massive profit are the traders and big companies they can afford to loose your money (bank, pension, savings)

Share market investments gives some profits but gambling giving only loses.

Even though share market invests giving profits is true but one need to do proper research on company before inventing their money otherwise if you invest money in some dummy companies then you may lose all your money in share market as well but it will give some time to withdraw some of your investments before it completely wash away. So in share market you should know when to exit the shares.

Yes both of these is based on prediction but I think you can't predict about the gambling game too. Buying stock is far more safer compare to gambling but the result for winning I will choose gambling because you can win bigger in just short of time not from stocks that need to wait long enough to get some profit

Stock exchange is not equal to profit. You can lose with shares as well if you open a position and the market goes opposite you. Also playing with shares is a zero based game the difference is that at the stock exchange there is no house edge.

I have no idea about the actual definitions of "gambling" and "investment", but to me, if you are an experienced stock trader and decide to buy shares with a good reason after researches, I would classify your action as an "investment". And if you just listen to your friend's advice to buy a stock without knowing anything, it is more like a "gamble" IMO.

that is very tricky. but I would say both gambling and investing in stock exchange is a form of gamble. They both have uncertain outcomes and in both you will earn according to your stake. there is both winning and losing. the difference is that in gambling mostly the results will be determined by luck and less skills while stock exchange investing,the outcome will be determined by economic activities. In gambling the outcome is mostly instant while in stock exchange, it will need some more time. but in both, the individuals target high returns. Thank you

Some times, we say that buying stocks is like gambling. What we actually mean is that we buy the shares at random, just follow advices of others without properly personal research. That will make the "investment" a losing game.

Yes there's. In some countries some of the stock exchanges's values are protected by governments.

That is the thing you have to decide on doing.
An uneducated guess based on unfounded advice from other's is taking a gamble if something of value of any kind is involved.
A researched, well thought out strategic plan of action towards making a solid acquisition of something of value in order to receive a steady stream on income from it is an investment.
Experienced stock traders are educated enough and know the game make good investments in the stocks they buy. Other ones that don't do it as good are just playing the stock market and are gambling with their investments.

That's right, if you want to start investing in stock exchange, you should first invest your time in learning the rules and the market. If you don't want to lose, you should be prepared and think every position opening twice and use some risk management strategy to protect your funds. In this case you can win on shares, otherwise you can lose too, like with gambling.

Yes. In stock investment, you can do research on the companies. If the company's business is sound, you buy shares, the share price might rise in the future. However, the share price is also affected by market conditions.
With gambling, especially for some types, it is mainly determined by luck minus house edge.

Investing in shares is for Long term appreciation but investing in gambling is to lose instantly

Maybe it's easier to say that gambling is an instant feedback about winning or not. You can't say that it is always lose,because sometime some people will win but there is no guarantee that you will win ever.

In investment, you have paper loss or gain as soon as you buy a share. It will not turn into a actual loss or gain until you sell your share. To that extent, it is similar to gambling, you know the gain or loss instantly. Share investment is for the long term, while gambling is for the short term, some times, second later result.

Yes. Gambling may give you instant result of profit or loss from your investment.But from share trading we can not expect instant results as it require some time to get us profits. usually if we choose good shares we can find shares are good investments. Same way gambling also may give us profits in longer term.

I think what you said is correct because some times some people win in gambling means it is not a good option for investment or growing our money. Also those some people might have lost those winnings if they continue gambling by now. I think if any one want to get a good returns over the time then share market invest will be a better option over gambling.

Most likely gambling will give instant loss but not any profits if one can gamble for long time

There is no difference at all .Speaking logically its all the same .Maybe the only myth people need to overcome is gambling is always related to people with unethical approach in life and share market is related to white collar classy folks way to getting rich in a sophisticated matter .At the end of the day they have to depend on luck or right decisions to win .Greed would leave you on streets if you try to become rich in one day .Gambling needs a minimal investment but share market as some official terms like dmat account n stuff.You can call sharemarkst as legal gambling .

I personally don't think there is that much of a difference.  In the end you are risking your money to gain money.  I think the people who say differently problem won some cash from the market and assume its safe, it isn't.

It can be a way of legal gambling if you take your decisions basedon nothing, it's pure gambling then. But, if you open your positions based on your own research, information you collect from the market, using historic data and even technical markers on the chart, it can be gambling too but with much higher winning chance.

No one said any investment is 100% safe, but at the least with stock shares you're placing money on something other than just odds on a payout table.
The only way those two investments can be considered to have even chances of making a profit is if you have no knowledge about stock market and shares you are investing in.

I think you understood share market invest wrongly that's why you're saying both are same. In actual case share market investment is nothing but your investing in certain business and expecting them to do better job and give you profits but gambling is just based on pure luck. In gambling either you win or lose all your money instantly but in share market you will not lose instantly all your money.

Share market investment usually will give profits if one do a proper study before investing and ready to wait but in gambling one most likely will lose all.

The share market differs from other forms of gambling (such as dice) where you can use knowledge and skill to actually influence the outcome - whereas in dice no amount of skill is relevant, it's purely chance. This difference is huge IMO, if you have skill in picking shares you have a better chance of coming out ahead than you do in dice where you're inherently likely to lose in the long term. Honestly, while the share market is kind of gambling (luck does have a factor) I would split gambling into two categories:  1) -EV (ie. dice) 2) potential +EV (sports betting, poker, shares) where depending on your skill you can come out ahead.

But you can't randomly pick it using skill because that picking is based on knowledge and need some luck too, actually it is almost as same as gambling but it has nothing to do with skill though and the payout is good and fast if I can say about gambling compare to share

Yes ! Most definitely ! As warren buffet and other big market cats say its all based on your knowledge and research and right decisions at the right time.In this way it can not be gambling as its completely based on your knowledge otherwise for a fluke its totally based on luck which makes it gambling.

If you don't know the difference between a stock market security and a game in a casino, then there's not much on these boards that's going to help you.  when you buy a stock, you are investing in a company with earnings and everything else that goes along with it, and when you roll the dice on a craps table, you're just rolling the fucking dice on a craps table.

Share market players are smart,they tend to make decisions based on historic patterns/data analysis and they seem to be correct most of the time [we'e speaking of legit share market traders from the wall street and not bunch of gamblers who read about sharemarket yesterday and made a dmat account today].While gamblers are people looking for winning streaks totally dependent on luck.There is no rocket science involved.

There is. With gambling you have a house edge against you, and there is no hint whatsoever what the next roll/play might be.

With stocks you can predict a general trend over the next few months and there is no house edge.

Also gambling is addicting while trading stocks? Not really addicting IMO.

If one use share market for predicting every day movement then there is not difference between share market and gambling because no one can predict share market how it moves on daily basis but if any one invest money on some good company and ready to wait for long time then it is investment and they can really make some good profits from share markets.

Yes that is 100% true if any one doing a day trading in share market mostly likely one day they will lose all their earning because no one can predict share market prices on daily basis but for long term point of view any one can analyze the business and invest in some good companies to make profits from their business.

Yes, in day trading no one can make any profits and it is almost same as gambling so do not try day trading in share market and it is completely manipulated some times.

Every trading is manipulated and not just stock market. It is the true taste of trading and it is normal. The more someone control something, the higher chance it will be used to manipulate the whole system

Buy and hold of shares in companies which do something efficiently which you approve of ought to be a way of promoting popular and ethical companies and a game of skill and knowledge.  What we get instead is that for every page of correct technical product description on which to base investment decisions, we have the distraction of hundreds of "buy this now!" nonsenses.  That Wall St nonsenses and sometimes outright lies outnumber correct technical information is what makes giving money to Wall St a game of chance and not a game of skill and knowledge.

There is also the macroeconomic element:  if you know that next year someone will print off another T$ then "stupid risks" are only stupid for the taxpayer; for yourself you play "heads I win, tails somebody else loses" as many times as they'll let you.  To participate in a market like that in which the honest money of a worker is diluted from time to time with bailout money is like going into a casino in a town where the whales get a big pile of chips on the house while you, the workers, pay for the house.

Therefore betting on Wall St. is disfavourable by comparison to straightforward gambling with a house advantage of a few %.

@raajlucky You have no clue about profits made in day trading my wall street experts.You could probably google and see how smart folks have turned all the cashless stuff into million dollars by day trading .This wasnt even cheating but smart ways of doing stuff.This is no where close to gambling ,it is totally based on intellect and financial knowledge .

How many exchange have a share to sell ? I have see only one, and the price to share is very high, paragonated to the daily earn.
For now, i prefer invest in gambling with investment program

There are differences and similarities between buying shares of a company and gambling. Both activities involve risk of capital with hopes of future profit. Gambling is typically a short-lived activity, while stock investing can last a lifetime. Some companies actually pay you money in the form of dividends to go along with owning stock in them.

almost same, trading stocks means speculation or investment, gambling is also one kine of speculation. trading altcoin means gambling too,but i prefer gambling cause at least i have fun if i lost money, but i don't have fun on trading.

They are both very similar in that if you are disciplined, patient and do your homework you could make long term profits. But most people participants in financial trading/gambling don't do this and don't make long term profits.

I think if your talking about day trading then correct mostly people make a mistake and lose money in share market but if one buy a good company shares then mostly they will make a good profits over the time. But in case of gambling one will either win profits fast or lose every thing at instantly so both are not same.

Yes that correct, if you trading shares or alt coins on daily basis then both gambling and trading are same. But if you invest money on good companies like Apple or Google then over the time your share price will surely will appreciate and time to time you will get dividends from company. So investing for long term in share and gambling are different.

Even with "knowledge" of the stock market you still have risk.  If it was possible to have knowledge everyone would be doing it and everyone would be rich. The bottom line is you are guessing and hoping for the best.

Buying shares of stock is just another form of gambling disguised as investing.  The only difference is that you can do some research into your purchase to determine if that is a good idea to make the purchase.  The only real difference is that you can look into your "investment" to see if you think you are making a good bet.

Even then, with research you are still only guessing that the price goes up, or that you are buying at a low price, it is just a form of gambling

If you are using a short term strategy like day trading then you are not investing anything . Some people buy stock for long term but sometimes people buy it for short term

I think you don't the meaning of share market investment that's why you telling that investing in share market is guessing game. But real scenario is your buying a business if you don't understand the company business then don't invest in that company. So as per me share market investment for long term is totally different from gambling.

So I am guessing you are extremely rich from this, like millions because if you are able to do this you should have no problem repeating it.  No?

I disagree, with Poker as you are playing against other players and there is no "house-edge" it is possible (with the right hard work) to be a long term profitable player. Sports betting to a lesser extent offers the same advantages but again requires a huge amount of work.

All other casino games in the long run you are unlikely to be profitable

Not everyone buying shares for long term some people just treat it like day trading and nothing special about that. The fast market and high volume is the reason people use it for day trading

Gambling is pure luck, and while this is true for stocks, there's a degree of certainty about them as well. You can predict changes fairly accurately in most cases, or invest in long term stocks that pay dividends, so there is a sense of security and safety in this investment. Gambling is mad fun though  :D

Stock market is a 0 ending game, if someone wins that means that someone loses also. If you think that the price is reasonable to buy yourself in and you expect the price to go up, someone at the same moment thinks that the price will go down and it's high time to sell. After it, one of them will win and the other has missed the opportunity to win, so it's a loss for him.

Day trading can be profitable for some traders, but not for most traders. Even if the share price volatility is high, a trade cannot always sell at the top and buy at the bottom. Fee and stamp duty will eat into profit as well.

I dont think you need to be rich to buy some stocks or share? You can buy little by little right? Because this is long term investment so if you buy that many too in the end you will sell it too to get some profit. It has nothing to do with you become rich then you can buying stocks

You only need to be rich in order to move the market in the way you want it to go, for this you need really much money. But if you want to drive the market you don't need to buy or sell shares in big but need to manipulate the news and the press :)
But if you want to trade on forex market, that's impossible, forex market is way too big to manipulate anything

that all risks must be obtained. the choice is only 2 . you want to go forward to fight or see other people win a lot of money  ;)

There are different kinds of risks are there but what risks are you talking?

Are you asking people to take risks to invest money in share market and wait for companies to do better business to take profits then it is quite reasonable risks but if your suggesting people to go for gamble to make more profits quicker than that risk is very high and I don't support for it.

Yes if any one invest money in share markets for long term perspective on some good companies then they can really make a good profits over the time.

Yes you are generally correct. There is a big difference between investing and trading. Trading is generaly short term, and sometimes you can go short and make money when something goes down.

Investing is usually holding stocks for a few years.

Yes it is true, you can manipulate the market price if you have a lot of cash but I dont think everyone will have this power to change the market like they want. Most people not daring to make some manipulation on bitcoin because of the price is too volatile

That is very true. If any one investing money in share market for short term/day trading means is equal to gambling and they can win money only based on pure luck no analysis will work out in day trading. So in this case there is not difference between investing in share market or gambling but share markets will give good profits for long term.

Are there any cryptocoins that has a steady exchange rate compared to fiat (not likely BTC which is too volatile)
I'm thinking about if it's possible to exchange BTC to some different cryptocoin when BTC's price is high and after buy back the BTC if it goes down (and it can be really short term, e.g. daytrade or mid or longer term as well).
I just want to avoid to exchane BTC to fiat and back too many times, because of the cost and the time of buying BTC officially for fiat. Is there any cryptocoin with not so volatile price?

Short term trading or day trading is equal to gambling so one have a more chances to lose their complete money in these things because most of the time need only luck to win. So if one want to make a money from share market then they must invest in some good companies and wait for few years to grow their business and your share prices.

I dont know if you can buy all just one crptocoin and pump it like usual then sell it like it just piece of cake here. Lets say that you can buy all of the X coin then you need to attract people to pump it too follow your stream. If not you will lose this thing and you can't get any profit from it

Yes in short term people are just guessing the price can move either up or down so winning will be based on just by luck so for short term share market investment is not good.

There are these kinds of pump every day for some coins. But the rise is not sustainable, as it is just a pump and dump. There is intrinsic value of the coins. These coins are just for pump and dump, there is no active development of the coin. There are many people fall into victim.

Yes, you are right. In stock market if the price of the particular stock is increased then it will be a profit for the shareholders and at the same time if someone has opted for derivatives (call option-Put Options), and placed trade on put option then it will be really huge loss for them.

Stock market is not a 0 ending game. It is positive sum game. The reason for that is most companies make profit, this money will be paid to investors. The trading cost, tax will reduce the return to investors.

This is the biggest problem with the addicted gamblers. If any one suggest to find a better ways to invest money and make profit but people like you will not listen and want to try your luck in gambling to make a easy money and you guys will realize when you lose all your money on these gambling games. Good luck with your experiments. I feel share market investments are always better options then gambling.

What you said is correct, every one want's fast money and at the end who ever goes for these kind of fast money they will end up losing all their money in super fast way. If you check the share market history most of the day traders has lost money but who ever used share market for long term investment tool only made very good profits. So share market is for making profits in long term but not for short term.

Yes even share market and gambling are compared for many reasons, in my perspective share market is good if you go for long term.
In my friends, many people have achieved big amounts of money from share market for keeping their stocks for around 10 years. But there is no history similar to this from gambling.

But I could clim, gambling would give you more profit in long term persistance along with your gambling skills. Share market is not a guarantee way of making profit in long term, there are many chances that your shares may go to zero value when the company goes bankruptsy.
In my opinion share markets are totally out of our control, but in gambling I feel the ball is still in my court.

That's a good point.
With the share market we are believing some third parties for our profits whereas in gambling, we are relaying on our own skills to make profits. I do believe on my own capability for my fortunes than others.

Share markets are good in long term - passive - some what guaranteed if we choose very good MNCs.
Gambling is only good if you are expert in gambling skills and will be able to actively make big profits even on daily basis.

Both gambling and day-trading are dangerous for beginners.

Learn skills then gamble otherwise invest in share market and wait for long time to make profits passively.

But I dont think there is much pump of alt coin because you need to choose wisely which one good for pumped. Because the volume of alt coin is very slow up and down just a little raise only except there are big whale pump that altcoin so you will earn it

In stock market, you can rely on professional fund managers to manage the money for you. But those manager on average will be worse off than the index track funds.
In gambling, only very few professional gamblers can make a living. Most of the gamblers can only have fun, not the money.

I think it's a matter of perspective actually. By buying a stock of a company you're putting your money in the hands of the company's board and CEO. If you bet in a sportsbook you just placed your money in the hands of the team and the coaches. Both have risks and rewards, it's just how you look at it.

I dont think that fund manager really manage our money well. If I not mistake they will take some percentage right? And you can't fully trust them because we give them our account so they could manage it right? So if they are not trustable it will be bad because they can suddenly scam us and get away all of our money. So it is better to control it by ourselves it is much safer

If know more about company how it works and whether company products got any demand in future than you can decide by yourself after doing some research no need to go to these fund managers but if you do not have that knowledge then we may need these professionals help. Basically when we depends on others than it is not fully safe investment.

I buy shares without any fund managers help because I buy shares of those companies which I know better. Do not follow all these paid tips providers because all those are manipulated tips and you may lose your money

I don't think one is really dependent on professional to invest money in share market but we need some knowledge of share market and company. I usually invest by myself and overall I made a profit but some of them give me loses and some of them profits. It is the part of share market investment. But gambling needs only luck to win games so both are different.

Most of the gamblers make the living for the few professional gamblers. Fund managers are managing the portfolios in order to have a good average profit at the end. It's less likely to lose but (if you buy induvidual shares and take the higher risk) if you are lucky, you can win bigger then with ETF or portfolios.

I am pretty sure nobody falls for these alt coin pump and dumps anymore. There was a time when it was profitable to instamine those coins and if they ever hit a major exchange you could make more money with them than mining BTC directly.

Are you sure what you're saying is correct? You can control gambling? Do you know any one or two people who can control gambling?

I think other way round because even though we are not controlling companies but when you put your money in some good reputed companies than surely you will make profits over the time but there is no such guarantee in gambling. You will play only by hoping that you may win but at the end that will not happen for sure

They are both the same really.  Gambling used to be more frowned
upon. Recently with the whole mortgage collapse I don't think many
trust the stock market also.  At least if I bet a football game I get
to see what happens and why I won or lost. With the stock market
unless your in it for the long haul its definitely gambling.

Yes there is lot of difference between investing in stock than gambling. The loss or gain in stock depends upon different things like political situation, news, supply and demand etc but it gambling it only depends on your luck.

of course its different, gambling its on luck

Isn't it that when you Buy a share's of stock there's also a percentage of luck needed? A company today may look good or profitable but after a few days a scandal, bad publicity or an accident that causes public concern can come out and may affect the price of it's share's of stock. Usual victims of this are the one's in the Oil and Gas business. If any of those pipeline leaks and affects the environment, that sure is will affect it current stock listing.

yes of course it is different,

in stock exchange you can do research and analysis because they will provide for you data or you can look in internet

in stock exchange you can know which news or which condition can be affected to the stock

but in gambling they will never provide for you any data,
so prediction will be based on luck and little bit of strategy, depends on what gambling you played

What you explained those are investment risks, all investments will have some kind of risks but in gambling to win you just need a pure luck. You can't link luck with investment risks. If you think all are same today you should have seen only gamblers in this world but no investors but in real fact you can see lot of share market investors compared to gamblers.

It's security. With stocks you invest in a company. You can do researh about the compnay etc. With some proper research there is still risk, but not a lot.
With gambling you invest too, but in your luck. It's much more risky and worse of all you can lose all fo your money.

Yes there are major differences.

Gambling is mostly a game of chance and the house always wins. Stocks are very different and respond to new news, you can research about them, see their competitors, growth strategies, mergers etc. You can even limit losses with tools like stop orders. The vast majority of stocks offered are honest and not high risk. With gambling even sports gambling you are taking a lot of risk, with no tools you can use to win.

Yes if one want to make a good profits from stock market than still it is possible but need to do a lot of home work on company before investing. If any one invest in good company than surely they can make lot of money over the time and along with price appreciation one will get regular basis dividends also. But in gambling either you will make profits instantly or you will lose everything one shot.

That's true we have good chances to make money from share market investments unless you don't try in day trading. Because in day trading no one can predict what will happen unless you got some internal information from company. In gambling we need mostly only luck to bring us profits so I think gambling and share market invests are not fully same.

If any one have some knowledge on how to analyse the company future than surely they will not lose all their money in stock market investment but in gambling losing means complete lose so both are not exactly same. In share market before your investments go to zero value, one will have a chance to sell at some lose and get back some of their investments but in gambling no. Like this may things are not same so both are different.

You must differentiate between the types of gambling.  I would say based on empirical data experienced betters in sports wagering and poker can earn a significant amount of bitcoin / money and in fact do every year.  I would argue that specifically poker and sports wagering when done right at the professional level are better than trading stocks because in sports you know so much more about the teams that are playing, the players, their history, the weather, etc. and in poker you have percentage odds and strategies that increase your chances of winning.  At their core, stock trading and sports and poker gambling are all just gambling, but just as the experienced stock trader can win, so too can the experienced sports bettor and poker player. 

Investing in stock market and gambling, I think both are in same bridge.

If you have luck today where ever you invest you will get profit like wise in Gambling also if you have luck you will get more profit. But both side one thing is very important called "Strategy" all depend on this.

But compare to Gambling stock market is bit oki.

 

Both have same thing actually, equal risk but yes u cannot compare dice with stock for sure

yes you are right in Stock market we will get profit in long run here all depends on Market but in Gambling all depends on luck there is day comes to you that day you will get all loss in the form of profit.

I think you're wrong. Both got risks but not same risks. Not only these two but all investments will have there own risks but we need to so choose investment products depends on our risk factor. In share market if you invest in some good company surely you will not lose all your investment but in gambling if you lose means immediately you will lose everything so lot of difference between stock market invests and gambling.

I'm not sure how it is an argument if stocks and gambling are the same thing.

Gambling depends entirely on luck or the roll of a dice, and have to predictable pattern it will follow.

the stock market on the other hand has many ways to predict what is going to happen, from news to politics to historical records. You can even pull out the value you have in the market quickly if necessary. You can place orders where specific conditions have to be met for anything to happen.

On paper, it is less risky for one to put money in the stock market, but considering the political and economic climate these days, it is a better idea to do neither and find other ways to invest.

They have the same risks between investing on stocks and gambling. Both of them will have the chance of losing but the reason why people keep gambling is because it is fast money eventhough it has far greater risk than stocks. And stocks you will slowly get your money but it is a have a risk too be scammed by them or if you say that is not possible because they have a good background that means you will get some profit in a very long way. So both of them have plus and minus. This just for us to choose which one do they prefer

Maybe stock trading has less risk but usually the amount you play on stock market is bigger than in gambling so at the end you can win big and lose a lot in both places. Gambling is instant win or loss however stock market can give you time to think over your decision and act again if needed.

It looks like you're very much interested in gambling that's why you're thinking or trying to find plus points from gambling but in reality gambling is not same as investment in good companies. When you want fast money that means it is not a investment but you're just checking you're luck but any real investments need a time to go grow your money in legal ways. It looks like you want a fast money so you chose high risk or almost impossible way to grow your money. All the best to you.

To put in simple, general definition of gambling vs. investing is: In investing, the odds are in your favor. In gambling, the odds are against you. That is the main difference between gambling and investing.

Also: Gambling is entertainment, investing is business.  Therefore, gamblers are people who seek risk - investors are trying to avert it.

Risk and possible reward are always go paralell. If you don't want to take risk because you are a conservative or cautious player, you can expect less reward but if you are this kind of personality, this reward should be enough. If you are a risk taker, you can handle the bigger risk mentally, you can expect more reward. But this does not mean that if you can expect that bigger reward, then you will get it automatically, because of luck. If luck is against you, you can take that risk in vain, you won't get any reward, but loss. And luck is the factor you can't influence, this is gambling about. Someone wins, others lose.

The difference between pure gambling and buying stocks of companies is that you are betting on the future of the company and you have a track record you can research. It is a long term investment. But the day to day movements of the stock market are somewhat random, so trying to time the market and make money off the random swings is gambling in a different form.

If one going to try every day their luck in gambling means that is biggest mistake. To try you're head is strong or not, no need to go and bang you're head on to wall because from common sense we should think wall is stronger. Like that, every one knows it is almost impossible to win in gambling (online games) so just use it for fun purpose instead of making money from gambling. For growing money investing in stocks are much better option.

there is different terms for buying of stocks. so if you are trying to time off the market and buy low and sell high within a certain time frame, it is call speculation of stock. but if you buy and leave it there for years, den it is call an investment.

In stock trading you can diversify 3 main time frame based on the length of the position (time between opening and closeing the position).
Day trading is the shortest, it's intra day position, takes the biggest risk.
Swing trade is longer, from day to several weeks, but it is still a kind of gambling.
Long term trading can be the investment because in that trade you can and should base your decisions on examinations, analysis'
So it's only long term trading can be called an investment, the shorters are mainly based on luck.

I think you understood investing meaning wrongly. Even in investing there is no guaranty that odds in favour of investors but may be better chances that they can win. Off course gambling is very risky and we can't compare it with investing in shares. In the long run investments will mostly give us profits for sure.

It's close to being the same thing. With both, stock exchange and gambling you're taking risks to lose.
There is no guarantee that you will win and make profits. It's still a gamble you take with both of them. You just gotta hope for the best and be a bit lucky.

You can have some sort of knowledge on where the stock market is going to go next but with gambling the outcome is pure luck.

there is. there are times when you predict where it goes with stocks. you just have to wait for them. If you want to predict where it goes at any given moment it's not much different from pure gambling

do you think it is absolutely true, but it will not happen if the players have a lot of trick in gambling. And I always do it though there is also a trick that makes the defeat because of a lack of calculation.

Gambling only for entertainment and to see how lucky we are using trick we wear.  ;) ;)

The stock exchange has no house edge. Economics is the house. And If you know how to economics? Then you know how to earn. Economics is predictable, and if you earn enough money, you can manipulate the market. Just do your research.

It's close to being the same thing but there are small differences between these two. With gambling you're in direct control of your money.
With stocks you are going to have to watch the news and the market at the same time.

To manipulate the market in the end you have to manipulate the customers, but I think if something is not 100% sure that the manipulation is working, you can lose more after. It can be a key point that different market sizes needs different amount to manipulate,e.g. you won't manipulate NYSE but on smaller sub markets maybe it is possible if you have the necessary funds.

Manipulation in stock market is not so easy task for individual persons. But only if any big institutions involved yes, they can do it for some time because finally they will get caught in the system. No one can manipulate either any individual stock or stock market for ever. So just buy a good company shares and make some profits, just forget about manipulations.

I think that historically, there have been many incidents where the market makers at a stock market dissipated with customer money and nobody had the ability to prosecute them or even trace them in the first place. Also bitcoin gambling is equally regulated so I'd say it's exactly the same.

I feel you're not correct. If you invest money in some good reputed companies than you will surely get profits over the time and dividends regularly but your profit margins may not be like in gambling. But in gambling you totally depending on your luck to earn money so you can't put all you're savings in to gambling to grow your money so for me both are different.

My post was full of irony. In reality, stocks are at least secured by law and regulations. Bitcoin websites are entirely unregulated and there's currently no legislation in place to protect users. In terms of trust, stocks are much much better. Surely the profit potential isn't as great, still not that big of a risk as total loss isn't normal.

Well, the difference is only in place and how to get the money, if you can monetize through exchanger of good results, whereas if you buy shares in gambling you get money from a bad result, but it all depends on your point of view

I really didn't understood anything from your post.


Yes, most of the stock markets are regulated by government rules. But still some inside traders to do the fraud but not in all companies where as in gambling the system itself like that, one can easily lose all there money without any pain. The pain will start only after losing money.

 

Thing is though, people investing through a stock market won't be in danger of total loss of capital overnight (with rare exceptions) thanks to those regulations. There's no way for the stock market itself to steal the money of investors in the same way bitcoin dices and casinos are able to steal deposits without any hassle.

The stock exchange has no house edge. Nor is it random.
The stock exchange is always sadly compared to gambling. It's not. That's comparing apples and oranges.

The stock exchange is predicable, as you can see the financial choices made by a company and your can decide yourself whether it's time to buy or sell.

Gambling, on the other hand, is random. Sure you can change the client but the server seed is the key.

That's true, my argument also same. In stock market if one can analyse company properly then they can make lot of money over the time but we can't make money over night in stock market. If we buy some good company shares and hold for few years than we can really get a lot of profits but we should choose a right stocks to invest at right time.

By investing you can help companies you believe in, such as socially or environmentally conscious firms and or new tech companies that are working on inventions that might affect you or someone close to you.
By gambling you are not making any contribution towards that goal, instead you are fueling casinos and occasional gain personal profit if you win.

Both have different meaning but actually you are describing the same thing, both is to get personal profit for ourselves. No one will fund some company or buy their share unless they want to gamble about it and try to make profit from that. Investing is just another form of gambling mostly for long term

to my mind there is nearly no difference, buying stocks is like gambling in my opinion as no one can predict how the price of it will fluctuate and if you will win money or loose the same is in gambling if you roll dice you cant predict the outcome and you cant predict if you will end up in profits

Actually you can, its not really difficult to predict how the stock market works because they fluctuate because of rumours. The stock markets are based on rumours and there is a chance that you can short the market when the rumours are going big about some companies

Thats only true is gambling also have negative EV (playing vs unbeatable house edge).

Thats, however, is not the case. So there is no much diffence, "buying shares" is literally the same gambling at the core of thigs - you are risking x amount of money to make a profit, because you like the odds that it will happen.

TLDR all the posts, but the difference is gambling is exactly that "Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.

Investing in the stock market over the long term should be done by buying strong companies with increasing earnings ideally at a market value less than they should be worth in the future.  Now something I don't recommend but it can be hit or miss is speculating in the market, which is the only thing related to gambling in the stock exchange.

If you buy any stock without a proper knowledge about the company working model or what they do but if any one study company well before investing than they can surly predict what will the future price of that company. So never ever invest in any company without knowing about them very clearly. If do that then you will realize both gambling and stock market investing are different.

It looks like you don't have an idea of how to buy shares that's why you're saying both are same.

Duh, the risk is different.

Gambling is a 100% win or a 100% loss
With stock you got at least the chance to cover up some lose of your money. With some proper research you are 99% safe.

There are no thing like 99% safe at stock trading because if there is this safe method then everyone will win already and rich but only some people get profit at stock trading and the rest lose some amount of their capital somit is almost the same like gambling

Yes, stock exchanges you can pump the market or dump but with gambling it's pure luck.

Gambling will never 100% guarantee win because the chance is different and there are still houseedge that you need to consider it. And I dont think there is 99% safe in any stocks or investments or whatever. Everything that you do will have risk to take, higher risk higher gain

You need alot of capital if you want to manipulate stock market but even if you manipulate it, stock market will keep holding as long as the company is strong someone will buy alot of its shares back so you will just waste your time and  money doing it

Thats where bankroll management comes in, if you can bet with an advantage and you do it over and over again the chances of long term winnings can = something crazy like 99.99999999999999%. 

Stock exchange is legal while gambling isn't legal in my country. There is a risk factor in both both that does not make them the same as the shares you buy make you an owner of part of the company and it's not true that one can lose their money by owning shares. It definitely can cause a loss but gambling gives you nothing in exchange of your money except losses or wins (which is again money). If the gambling website or place turns scam, you don't even get your winnings unlike stock market where you get a percent back.

In gambling you have control over your funds and moves while stock shares are not in your control even risk factor is in both things.In gambling at least winning/losing depends on you too but stock shares is a game of elite to make profit from small investors.

Exactly. Stock exchange requires a lot of background research if you want to be safe. Whereas gambling depends purely on luck.

There is no difference in gambling and stock exchange shares both let you without money in the end.The reason you don't have enough bankroll/funds to recover your losses.

I don't agree with you where you said in stock exchange you have chance to recover losses.When value of shares fall down you simple loose your money in a matter of minutes without having any single chance to recover it.

Gambling is more safer than stock exchange shares in my opinion.There are many differences in both as to start each you need different kind of information and money.

Exactly. Stock exchange requires a lot of background research if you want to be safe. Whereas gambling depends purely on luck.

I disagree with this. If you invest safely in shares, you will still make money but just a bit slower. If you gamble, it is all up to chance, you could win a lot or lose a lot.

i agree with you to disagree with him. it is the first time i ever say gamble is more safe den stock exchange. lol. gamble is known to be low chance of winning. where investment is almost profit when you know how to invest.

Yepp. In terms of stocks I have informations about the companies markets, products, earnings, leaders and many many more informations. I can make myself an overview of the fundamentals and then decide if investing makes sense or not.
In gambling this is mostly impossible and I'm completely depending on lucky coincedences.

yah, gamble is down to luck and most of the time, the chances are against you. for investment is a whole new story. you can actually predict the path it is gonna happen base on its product etc.

Exactly. With stocks you can research the company and learn about them.
Gambling is just luck waiting to happen or not to happen. You will win or lose money in just minutes.

So true. I find it funny that people even say Gambling is a safe method and compare it with shares which is much better and safer way to earn money. It's like comparing forex with gambling wherein in one you buy/sell currencies and the other where we play poker/dice. How are they even related and can be compared? I can tell people I work with forex but can't say that I am a gambler as it's just playing a game.

Stocks are better if you don't like risk. Companies where you can do research read their reports are stability.
Gambling, bets, you make are nothing compared to that since they are very risky.

I agree with the op. Stocks and shares definitely a long term investment where as gambling is a short term way of making money both have risks and both can be very profitable

of course there is a big difference between trading stocks and just gambling your money, in stocks it is possible to predict whether you will make profit with the price rises or not and in gambling its pure gambling as no one knows the outcome of it and everything can happen

I think it completely depends on the type of gambling you choose.
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I won't count gambling as an investment, Since it too risky. Especially since you can lose all of your money.
A better term would be a hobby which can be profitable.

I invest more in stocks then in gambling.
Gambling is way to risky for me.
Stocks are a solid source of future income.
Nothing more, nothing less

Actually I can't find a good reason to compare these different things. It is true that there is high level of uncertainty in markets, but it is possible to find a proper strategy to trade with sufficient accuracy in markets.

Yep - there is one, main :)

In gambling you are the one whom decide where to bet and where to win/lose some money. And in general scams are <1% if you are betting in top bookies.
I cannot say the same for shares - somebody decide when to gamble (in what direction to point) shares, scams are a lot more and so on.

So I'm sticking to gamble :D At least I'm making a living from it.

yah, stock is pretty much safe for profit, unless u go and put ur investment in those shady business. gamble u will end up loss most of the time n u loss is due to luck, not strategy at all.

I'm really not sure whether you're living with gambling profits but if it is true than good to know that some one is making regular income from gambling. But as for me, gambling is not for making money but just for entertainment and share market is for making profits for long term.

It's just called Gambling in people's mind :) This is why and I'm calling it gambling. But I'm making my money mainly from poker, surebets (arbitrages), betting, gambling affiliate and paid tipster services I'm offering. Real gambling - like dice games and casinos are just for recreation. You cannot beat the house edge in a long run.

Totally agree. Safe > risk. Gambling is just for degens.
Everyone who is putting his saving or investing money in gambling is degenerate!!

gamble, you dont even need to know or research much. as long as you know the basic of the game and some calculation den u r fine. but for investment, you can find out the history, the potential etc. usually you wont end up losing all cuz it is very hard for blue chip to disappear just like that. and by right, company will grow so you are quite safe to invest for profit.

some games requires some form of skills and that is why some players can be full time gambler due to this reasons. it is base on luck, den i dont think there can be a long term players as they will tends to loss out.

I think that both of them being, speaking the language, though, the financing and when we talk about timing, really , we're talking about reliability and the probability of the outcome in a positive result, of course, stock exchange profitable than gambling, from all points of view, except, of course, though, of the returns , but the terms are important if we are talking about the gambling the game , instead of reliability, refers to risk to mess with that, and although we can imply a higher ( much higher ) in less profit , but more confident, big time, we remember big risks and not getting expectancy in profit

Not only in share market investments got these uncertainty but most of all investments comes with some uncertainty so we should analyse and need to invest based on our risk factor but gambling is not for investment, it just to pass some time and to spend money to pass our time.

I would say no there is no difference in buying stocks on a stock exchange and gambling , all you can do is research carefully and intensively about the stock before buying it, also see the upside and downside risk for the stock, whereas in gambling you should follow a specific strategy and also manage your money by managing risk carefully, and effectively.

Obviously there are some different. In gambling what matters is only pure luck and having strategy will not be helping much howeveer with stock buying then it is a different story   ecause research and strategy will play a very important role for getting profit

Unless you have done extensive research on the stock, buying a stock in the short term can be similar to gambling. When you pick a stock to buy because of your gut feeling, it is the same as gambling.

There isn't any difference because when you buy shares in the stock exchange and gambling you buy a portion of some company.

Gambling is instant, and could count as a "high-risk, high reward" sort of thing.

As opposed to investing in stock markets, the risk that you lose it all, is extremely low, unless you're deliberately trying to. If you play the stock game very patiently, you're almost guaranteed to not lose any funds.

Correct. although stocks can be risky too if you go into warrants and other third party stock products, the general risk factor with stocks is  way less then gambling.
If you buy stocks of a big company, your risk could be close to 0, if you outlook is on the 5-year term.

What? It is completely untrue. Buying shares are investing your money in some company you think have chances to prosper well, therefore will gain your profit from your shares.
If you gamble you money you are not allocating it as capital, but instead you are trying to profit from short term 'luck spike'.

In short in investing, the odds are in your favor. In gambling, the odds are against you.

With gambling it's impossible to make an informed bet, only you can try to guess your chances to win in raw statistics, with stocks you can implement an strategy which can contain raw statistics (technical analysis) and context and evaluation of the situation as well in other words an informed bet (fundamental analysis).

The difference is that in stocks, you can make an informed decision. My dad makes lots of money every year with stocks, which is very unlikely with gambling. Gambling is mostly luck, stocks are part luck part skill.
In gambling, the odds are also against you.

Stocks can actually make you profit in the long term, while gambling should cause you to lose in the long term.
Stocks are safer and the odds can be in your favor, while in gambling the odds are against you. You can also make an informed decision with stocks while gambling is going in blind.

That is so true. It's about information. With stocks you can educate yourself and decide wheter betting on the right stock could be good.
By betting your are dependant on luck and luck alone.

May be you have that kind of possibility but it still depends on your stocks exchange too. You need to calculate everything until the worst case if really pure on stocks because not always but I saw some of stocks also can scammed your money though. It is one of the possibility too. But as I can say gambling risk is higher and the payout is better and stock like you said safer but it takes a longer time and low odds. And if you really lucky I think gambling is much profitable than stock

Yes buying share must be based on the aspects of the particular company and it's activities. So, there are calculated risk and luck factor is playing very small role in that.
But, gambling is fully based on luck and there is no possibilities for calculations.

In stock market the most important thing is time means at what price your buy the share and when you exit. If you do any one mistake than you may lose lot of money in share market.

You won't loose a lot of money on the stock market for small mistakes. You can always hold and wait for the dividends.

But not all companies pay dividends to share holders so you need to find a good company shares to get the dividends. Once you buy a share at reasonably good price than surely over the time you will make s good returns and if you monitor continuously then you will not lose much from share market investments.

Share prices reflect the discounted present value of future cash flows - at least in theory if not always in practice
Gambling in the strictest sense is luck-based. So difference between gambling and investing is stark. Speculation is a different beast though.

For buying shares ,as an investors, they should do the due diligent works before buying them otherwise blindly buying shares whose represented companies are probably about to collapse will lead you lose all of the investment. Buying shares sometimes likes gamble  as well. You should know what you are doing then you will be safe with your money. In gamble you should know how to control yourself.

To be sure, self control is important for investing as well. But a good investor can ride out a bad phase whereas a gambler would lose his shirt as gambling outcomes are binary events

Diligent work applies very well to sport betting (researching a team/player, etc) and poker (overall working on your game, putting tons of hours to studying various concepts)
Self-control is usefull and mandatory there as well, but its mostly useless in games like dice and roulette, where self control wont help you win, so you might as well go full-retard.

what do you mean? Is self control really needed in investing? Because what I know you just need to have luck and have big balance when you start investing on some gambling site. And you really need to get more information on particular site to make sure that they will last long enough to get profit

He meant gambling. Self-control is definitely a must in gambling, if you don't know when to pull out, you're going against the house odds, and you'll never win.

As for stock exchange, self-control means to be able to resist the urge to sell/buy, and act patiently in order to maximize your profits. Contrarily to gambling, stocks and investing is just a matter of patience.

Even though if one don't buy shares without proper study but still they will not lose all of there investment in just one day or in few minutes like people lose money in gambling so I don't agree on both investing shares and gambling are same but both have a different kinds of risks.

Not Everyone mate,Gambing depends on luck factor..some people win BIG from small amount and some people even lose BIG on small odds so gambling is based on pure luck..yes if you become greedy and did not stop when you know you should then you will lose simply coz you can't win always and Stock exchange is completely different thing..it can't be compared to gambling..if you have the knowlege of stocks,bonds you can try stock exchange..Stock markets are not based on luck..To succeed in stock exchange you have to first gather some experience of buying which shares and to predict the rates.

But some time stock market also need some luck to get out on right time. In stock market timing is very important because you just buy and don't monitor your share prices than you can make a lot loses so one should always need to watch out on share prices. But stock market is not fully depends a luck as you said.

Currently due to Chinese stock market crash most of the world markets are in deep red. It looks like this will continue for some more time until Chinese market stabilize but I think Chinese market is still very expensive and we will see some more days these big crashes. But with this kind of big crashes also investors will not lose all money at once like happens in gambling.

For me they are difference because gambling is fun and stock exchange for traders that want to earn money by trading but they have the same that you need to be luck to win your predict. honestly im not a professional trader but if i granted to choose in stock exchange or gambling i will choose stock exchange for making money...

at the stock exchange you will win, in gambling you will lose

Well even with that, you can bet in "gambling" with binary options that allow you to "bet" against the market.  There's always a way to make money in the stock trade if you feel like something is going down and you want to bet against it.  People always think that when dealing with stocks that you have to invest in something for it to go "up"... which is not the case, because you can bet against something and profit when the value in a stock goes down.

There is no guaranty that you will surly win in stock exchange investment because if you invest in some bad companies at wrong time than the prices will never go high and you will never make a profit so you should study companies carefully before investing in stock market to make profits.

Yes buying share market stocks also as same kind of for this like gambling. A detailed study before investing into share maket is more essential to sage guard our funds. But compared to gambling, share markets are lesser riskier when we considering the time we can get in share markets.

That is correct. In share market we will not lose all our money at one shot so we will get a time to take out some portion of our money before company go full lose. But in gambling we can either make quick profit or we can lose all our investment at one shot. So investing in share market is always better than gambling.

Firstly I think Stock exchange is lot more passive than compared to gambling, you can buy and set up your stop loss, so you don't lose anymore than the specified amount and secondly gambling for the most part is based on luck, whereas stock trading relies on various other factors, which makes it much safer.

The difference is, you've to wait to see your profit/loss with the stock exchange but you don't have to wait a long time to see if you earn a profit/loss with gambling

This is not always true, as not all bets reveal the result fast. For example, you can make a bet on the 2016 US presidential election now and you will need to wait for many months to see if you have won or lost the bet.

Mostly I agree that gambling results are quite faster compared to stock market results except in some special betting games or like elections.

In stock market you will not lose money instantly like in gambling but you will have a chance to withdraw you're partial amount before it goes to zero value.

Any true investments you must give a time to appreciate you're money either in stock markets or real estate or any other investments but only in gambling you will see the results quite fast. But chances for winning in gambling are quite slim. So invest and wait for profits rather losing faster.