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Title: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: cryptodromeda on December 11, 2015, 09:32:53 PM I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why?
Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing. Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: onemorexmr on December 11, 2015, 10:48:45 PM I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why? Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing. Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway. true, i (sometimes) write against DASH when i see something from them which is scammy (eg "banning users in evolution" - their next version). i hate scams and wont keep my mouth shut when i see one. but i have mostly given up...i was active writing against dash before i saw monero (on flower1024 (sold) and onemorebtc accounts) but i understand why they write against monero: they fear it Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DaveyJones on December 11, 2015, 10:48:51 PM Its less Dash vs Monero but different characters from both camps going back and forth... and as everyone got their free will its not up to anyone but themselves to stop that.
Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 11, 2015, 11:18:19 PM To OP :
What would you do if it was your cryptocurrency, your community and your lead developer that was under constant well-organised troll attack in both the Altcoin Discussion section and in your own cryptocurrency's ANN thread and where lies and fud (fear, uncertainty, doubt) are used as main weapons ? Would you : A : Ignore it and hope it will just go away B : Refute the lies and fud so it looses value c : Something else (please explain what exactly) Also take into consideration that it was Monero that started this whole smearing and fud campaign against Dash some time ago, you are just witnessing the end-result / later phase of it. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: Lebubar on December 11, 2015, 11:20:55 PM I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why? Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing. Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway. true, i (sometimes) write against DASH when i see something from them which is scammy (eg "banning users in evolution" - their next version). i hate scams and wont keep my mouth shut when i see one. but i have mostly given up...i was active writing against dash before i saw monero (on flower1024 (sold) and onemorebtc accounts) but i understand why they write against monero: they fear it Make your home work: How many post from How many post from Dash community in ANN XMR thread? maybe one per month, even nothing..? I would say Trolleros just hate us because we exist. We hate them because they are always in our thread - insulting-. So really Monero fear us. Nobody give a shit about them (other than being always in our thread). They even send us a "Real life" Troll to one of our presentation... Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: ArticMine on December 11, 2015, 11:25:59 PM I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why? Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing. Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway. Yes. DASH/XMR has been in flat trading range for close to six months. https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash (https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 12:43:38 AM I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why? Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing. Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway. true, i (sometimes) write against DASH when i see something from them which is scammy (eg "banning users in evolution" - their next version). i hate scams and wont keep my mouth shut when i see one. but i have mostly given up...i was active writing against dash before i saw monero (on flower1024 (sold) and onemorebtc accounts) but i understand why they write against monero: they fear it Make your home work: How many post from How many post from Dash community in ANN XMR thread? maybe one per month, even nothing..? I would say Trolleros just hate us because we exist. We hate them because they are always in our thread - insulting-. So really Monero fear us. Nobody give a shit about them (other than being always in our thread). They even send us a "Real life" Troll to one of our presentation... Yeah, a coin with no instamine and instant mixing has SO MUCH to fear from an instamine scam coin with tampered emission after launch, and that takes 2-3 days of mixing before you can send an anon tx :D Lol @ this guy Lebular though. How's that lobotomy working out Lebular? I hear you became a big Dash supporter after undergoing the procedure. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: eddie13 on December 12, 2015, 12:52:14 AM The crypto hatfields and mccoys..
Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: shanem on December 12, 2015, 02:35:10 AM DASH and Monero are competitors in anonymous technology so of course they are trying to beat each other. This is the same as many different industries.
No matter how confident one company is, they are always trying hard to beat the other competitor(s). Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: spatula on December 12, 2015, 04:29:29 AM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon.
What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: cryptodromeda on December 12, 2015, 04:43:49 AM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. You're certainly right about Dash having a higher market cap. There's no denying that. However, it just seems that Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: spatula on December 12, 2015, 04:58:49 AM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. You're certainly right about Dash having a higher market cap. There's no denying that. However, it just seems that Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. I understand where you are coming from, and it would help a lot if the DASH users would just not respond to the Monero marketing behavior. And you are right, I'm sure there are antagonists on both sides, but it is at least 10 to 1 ratio if not more. There are literally thousands of Monero user's posts in the DASH thread, and almost no DASH users posting in the Monero thread. The vast majority of the anti-Monero stuff we see from the DASH users is in response to the relentless Monero attacks. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: cryptodromeda on December 12, 2015, 05:20:17 AM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. You're certainly right about Dash having a higher market cap. There's no denying that. However, it just seems that Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. I understand where you are coming from, and it would help a lot if the DASH users would just not respond to the Monero marketing behavior. And you are right, I'm sure there are antagonists on both sides, but it is at least 10 to 1 ratio if not more. There are literally thousands of Monero user's posts in the DASH thread, and almost no DASH users posting in the Monero thread. The vast majority of the anti-Monero stuff we see from the DASH users is in response to the relentless Monero attacks. Agreed but you have to appreciate the reason why so many people criticise Dash. Many people were disturbed by the instamine situation and challenged it. There was mixed signals from Dash about the instamine and as such there has never really been a conclusion to the argument. It just lingers. So, in a sense it's an argument that revolves around Dash's credibility. It's not fair to say that this happens due to Monero marketing, because Monero simply doesn't do marketing. It's just not part of it's composition. There are just a lot of people out there that say, "hang on Dash, you've told a big fat lie." I think that's what Charlie Lee was getting at. You mention that "there are literally thousands of Monero user's posts in the DASH thread, and almost no DASH users posting in the Monero thread." This is true, but this is an unfortunate symptom of having a large and vocal community. Monero is big, and the bigger it gets, the more uncontrollable it becomes. We saw the same thing with Bitcoin (and even with Doge). Where there is passion, there is vocality and sometimes this causes conflict. I think also Dash doesn't help matter by baiting and inciting the Monero community to respond. It's like Dash recognises the power of Monero, and so whenever Dash need a thread bumping up to the top, they'll deliberately say something inflammatory which will cause the Monero / Bitcoin communities to respond. What we need is a Christmas Peace initiative! :) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: spatula on December 12, 2015, 05:57:44 AM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. You're certainly right about Dash having a higher market cap. There's no denying that. However, it just seems that Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. I understand where you are coming from, and it would help a lot if the DASH users would just not respond to the Monero marketing behavior. And you are right, I'm sure there are antagonists on both sides, but it is at least 10 to 1 ratio if not more. There are literally thousands of Monero user's posts in the DASH thread, and almost no DASH users posting in the Monero thread. The vast majority of the anti-Monero stuff we see from the DASH users is in response to the relentless Monero attacks. Agreed but you have to appreciate the reason why so many people criticise Dash. Many people were disturbed by the instamine situation and challenged it. There was mixed signals from Dash about the instamine and as such there has never really been a conclusion to the argument. It just lingers. So, in a sense it's an argument that revolves around Dash's credibility. It's not fair to say that this happens due to Monero marketing, because Monero simply doesn't do marketing. It's just not part of it's composition. There are just a lot of people out there that say, "hang on Dash, you've told a big fat lie." I think that's what Charlie Lee was getting at. You mention that "there are literally thousands of Monero user's posts in the DASH thread, and almost no DASH users posting in the Monero thread." This is true, but this is an unfortunate symptom of having a large and vocal community. Monero is big, and the bigger it gets, the more uncontrollable it becomes. We saw the same thing with Bitcoin (and even with Doge). Where there is passion, there is vocality and sometimes this causes conflict. I think also Dash doesn't help matter by baiting and inciting the Monero community to respond. It's like Dash recognises the power of Monero, and so whenever Dash need a thread bumping up to the top, they'll deliberately say something inflammatory which will cause the Monero / Bitcoin communities to respond. What we need is a Christmas Peace initiative! :) I only have a couple disagreements about what you posted, the Monero users who post constantly in the DASH thread are not doing so because they are passionate, or because they want to protect newbies from getting scammed or some other noble cause they like to claim. People troll like that because they are financially invested and are trying to protect and grow their own investment. Also, I don't think that DASH "recognizes the power of Monero", or even really considers them a competitor. The DASH team is looking forward at competitors that have larger marketcaps, not backwards. The "power of Monero" is that they have a few large investors, and an exchange that would benefit greatly from their future success. Yes, the Monero users get some DASH users all worked up and in a frenzy over their non stop posting in the DASH thread, and they respond in kind, which is way more attention than any small marketcap coin deserves. Don't get me wrong though, of the small coins that require a bit of scrolling on coinmarketcap.com to get to, Monero is one of my favorites. I have made some good money in the past trading it, but the block reward is way too high still and the behavior of many of their user base is going to ensure a downward price for at least the next year or so. I plan to buy back in somewhere around $0.10 USD at that time once coin emission is under control. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: CoinHoarder on December 12, 2015, 06:21:59 AM I think Dash and Monero are both neat cryptocurrencies. Each are trying different things and I see merit in both of their designs and road maps. So, hopefully you guys can learn to get along because it doesn't look like either coin is dying anytime soon. :)
Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: Macrochip on December 12, 2015, 01:32:38 PM Many people were disturbed by the instamine situation and challenged it. There was mixed signals from Dash about the instamine and as such there has never really been a conclusion to the argument. It just lingers. So, in a sense it's an argument that revolves around Dash's credibility. BULLSHIT (https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118) Also: LOL @ Power of Moronero Not a single person of the Dash community gave a flying fuck about that cripplemined Bytecoin-cloned pile of shit until they started spamming our ANN without provocation for the last 20 months. I didn't even know it fucking existed until they came up to us trolling and spamming the same shit over and over like the retards they are. What a crock of shit this entire thread is. Your pathetic attempt at ninja-trolling failed. Hard. PS: Please change the thread title to "If the Mount Everest is so confident why is it trying so hard to beat my hill of beans?" just to illustrate the stupidity of that question :D Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 01:58:56 PM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. Having a higher market cap when you instamine 30% of the coins and keep them locked in a HYIP POS scheme like DASH dev eduffield has done is trivial Anyone can start their own shitcoin, issue 15 million coins and sell 1 to your friend for a dollar. There you go you just made a coin with the same $15,000,000 marketcap as Dash. You're just a Dash bagholder who believes in instamined coins with a tampered emission, lying snake-oil developers who announce features like masternode blinding which never get implented, unuseable anon that takes 24-72 hours to send a simple anon tx and of course, the most toxic community in crypto BY FAR with examples such as MasterMined710 and volvoya. Macrochip has no choice but to cheer for Dash, he's down over $100,000 in his Dash holdings... use a 20% stop loss next time.. or better yet don't invest in scam coins like "daesh" in the first place Dash :( Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: smoothie on December 12, 2015, 02:04:29 PM Many people were disturbed by the instamine situation and challenged it. There was mixed signals from Dash about the instamine and as such there has never really been a conclusion to the argument. It just lingers. So, in a sense it's an argument that revolves around Dash's credibility. BULLSHIT (https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118) Also: LOL @ Power of Moronero Not a single person of the Dash community gave a flying fuck about that cripplemined Bytecoin-cloned pile of shit until they started spamming our ANN without provocation for the last 20 months. I didn't even know it fucking existed until they came up to us trolling and spamming the same shit over and over like the retards they are. What a crock of shit this entire thread is. Your pathetic attempt at ninja-trolling failed. Hard. PS: Please change the thread title to "If the Mount Everest is so confident why is it trying so hard to beat my hill of beans?" just to illustrate the stupidity of that question :D And how do you quantify "The Dash Community"? Are you part of the Dash community... if you own any dash? if you kiss Evan's ass? Or is it if you act like a cultist and have some sort of stockholm syndrome? I've said it many times that my posting there was not for "the dash community" but the newbs who come to the crypto scene not knowing any better and investing without knowing all the hidden facts behind the shady history of Dark/Dash/Evan/etc. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: smoothie on December 12, 2015, 02:06:53 PM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. Having a higher market cap when you instamine 30% of the coins and keep them locked in a HYIP POS scheme like DASH dev eduffield has done is trivial Anyone can start their own shitcoin, issue 15 million coins and sell 1 to your friend for a dollar. There you go you just made a coin with the same $15,000,000 marketcap as Dash. You're just a Dash bagholder who believes in instamined coins with a tampered emission, lying snake-oil developers who announce features like masternode blinding which never get implented, unuseable anon that takes 24-72 hours to send a simple anon tx and of course, the most toxic community in crypto BY FAR with examples such as MasterMined710 and volvoya. Macrochip has no choice but to cheer for Dash, he's down over $100,000 USD in his Dash holdings... use a 20% stop loss next time Macrochip.. or better yet don't invest in scam coins like "daesh" in the first place Dash :( Proof of bolded claim? Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: generalizethis on December 12, 2015, 02:12:51 PM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. Having a higher market cap when you instamine 30% of the coins and keep them locked in a HYIP POS scheme like DASH dev eduffield has done is trivial Anyone can start their own shitcoin, issue 15 million coins and sell 1 to your friend for a dollar. There you go you just made a coin with the same $15,000,000 marketcap as Dash. You're just a Dash bagholder who believes in instamined coins with a tampered emission, lying snake-oil developers who announce features like masternode blinding which never get implented, unuseable anon that takes 24-72 hours to send a simple anon tx and of course, the most toxic community in crypto BY FAR with examples such as MasterMined710 and volvoya. Macrochip has no choice but to cheer for Dash, he's down over $100,000 USD in his Dash holdings... use a 20% stop loss next time Macrochip.. or better yet don't invest in scam coins like "daesh" in the first place Dash :( Proof of bolded claim? Bitterness. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 02:53:12 PM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. Having a higher market cap when you instamine 30% of the coins and keep them locked in a HYIP POS scheme like DASH dev eduffield has done is trivial Anyone can start their own shitcoin, issue 15 million coins and sell 1 to your friend for a dollar. There you go you just made a coin with the same $15,000,000 marketcap as Dash. You're just a Dash bagholder who believes in instamined coins with a tampered emission, lying snake-oil developers who announce features like masternode blinding which never get implented, unuseable anon that takes 24-72 hours to send a simple anon tx and of course, the most toxic community in crypto BY FAR with examples such as MasterMined710 and volvoya. Macrochip has no choice but to cheer for Dash, he's down over $100,000 USD in his Dash holdings... use a 20% stop loss next time Macrochip.. or better yet don't invest in scam coins like "daesh" in the first place Dash :( Proof of bolded claim? Bitterness. lies and fud .. as usual. edit : directed towards Drklvr, who has appearently a very big thumb that just keep overproducing these lies and fud remarks. Sometimes i wonder if he is still capable of telling the truth ... i'm just thankfull he is not part of our community. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: illodin on December 12, 2015, 03:04:58 PM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. That's basically it. Everything else is just excuses and noise. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: generalizethis on December 12, 2015, 03:24:08 PM DASH isn't trying to "beat" Monero, I mean look at the market cap. The market has already decided that DASH has "beat" Monero at this point and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. What is going on is that DASH users fall for the basic Monero marketing tactics, many of which include posting constantly in the DASH thread. There are almost no DASH users trolling on the Monero thread because, why would they? DASH users need to stop falling for the Monero marketing tricks and constant annoyances that they perpetually spew on to the DASH thread. The only people who have anything to gain in a fight between DASH and Monero is Monero. Just like any small company directly attacking its market leading competitor. That's basically it. Everything else is just excuses and noise. Not really. From a technical standpoint, Monero offers superior anonymity (protocol level, apparently magnitudes faster, proven cryptography backed by leading Bitcoin Developers), a better algorithm not fraught with the dangers of using multiple chains, and a provable fairer distribution due to a fair launch. Also, evolution's 12-18 month time frame, coupled with no peer review, hardly distills confidence. The market cap lead is minuscule, when for a coin to be successful, we are talking many billions more than even the current BTC market cap--plus I would take into account the distortion effect of masternodes hoarding coins off market. I'm probably missing a few things, but Monerians want to make these technical comparisons because that is their strength and dash's weakness. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: MRKLYE on December 12, 2015, 03:28:30 PM Wasn't DASH (or Darkcoin) premined to absolute shit right under everyones noses?
last I read was that they had a massive premine.. Who would even use this shit? People need to stop supporting shitcoins and need to start supporting coins with actual innovation. DASH was premined to shit.. and that in my eyes makes it worth basically nothing.. A 1% premine.. Cool. But last I checked that shit was over 10% premined and it was done secretly. Monero has a terrible client. And I've never used dash.. So I can't say which is the victor... was monero premined? Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 03:38:45 PM lies and fud .. as usual. edit : directed towards Drklvr, who has appearently a very big thumb that just keep overproducing these lies and fud remarks. Sometimes i wonder if he is still capable of telling the truth ... i'm just thankfull he is not part of our community. My bad actually.. it wasn't Macrochip. It was another Dashtard who bought 150K of DASH at over $10. How unfortunate to sink so much money into a fraud scheme like Dash... $150,000 to ~$35,000. That's gotta hurt. I don't see him on this thread so I won't expose him. Talk some more shit qwizzie. I might make mistakes which i own up to, but i don't need to lie. Dash looks bad enough on its own. MRKLYE, 1.5 million coins out of the 6 million DASH supply were instamined in the first 8 hours of launch. 25% instamine Dash :( Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 04:14:13 PM Wasn't DASH (or Darkcoin) premined to absolute shit right under everyones noses? last I read was that they had a massive premine.. Who would even use this shit? People need to stop supporting shitcoins and need to start supporting coins with actual innovation. DASH was premined to shit.. and that in my eyes makes it worth basically nothing.. A 1% premine.. Cool. But last I checked that shit was over 10% premined and it was done secretly. Monero has a terrible client. And I've never used dash.. So I can't say which is the victor... was monero premined? Dash was instamined, which is different then premined Monero was also instamined or fastmined with their crippled miner Bitcoin was also instamined with Satoshi's 1 million mined BTC The whole world could potentially see the crypto-scene as instamined because there is such a relatively small amount of people involved with it currently. Instamine is just a very general used term and sure Dash was instamined, nobody from Dash denies that and its public info for all to see and sure it was on a larger scale then Monero or other cryptocurrencies but then again a large part of the instamine got either redistributed very early on or was put directly into support of Dash. There was no secrecy with the Dash instamine either, no trying to hide it. 29 march 2014 https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/ viewed : 12,325 https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 Quote In this article, we explore the impact of the “instamine” on the Dash ecosystem. There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. We gained access to Evan Duffield to directly answer some questions about the instamine and give us an account of what happened. Those involved financially with Dash moved past the instamine a long time ago and are here for the long ride (Dash is typically such a cryptocurrency that it will take time as there is a very strong focus on research and development) In the end its up to each person to do their own homework on the cryptocurrency they are thinking about investing in ... Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: onemorexmr on December 12, 2015, 04:23:48 PM Wasn't DASH (or Darkcoin) premined to absolute shit right under everyones noses? last I read was that they had a massive premine.. Who would even use this shit? People need to stop supporting shitcoins and need to start supporting coins with actual innovation. DASH was premined to shit.. and that in my eyes makes it worth basically nothing.. A 1% premine.. Cool. But last I checked that shit was over 10% premined and it was done secretly. Monero has a terrible client. And I've never used dash.. So I can't say which is the victor... was monero premined? Dash was instamined, which is different then premined Monero was also instamined or fastmined with their crippled miner Bitcoin was also instamined with Satoshi's 1 million mined BTC The whole world could potentially see the crypto-scene as instamined because there is such a relatively small amount of people involved with it currently. you forgot to mention that eduffield reduced the blockreward right after the instamine.... ...and that moneros so-called-crippled-miner-fastmine was one guy who mined a little bit more for a short time. which is laughable when compared to dash (former darkcoin (former xcoin)) Those involved financially with Dash moved past the instamine a long time ago and are here for the long ride (Dash is typically such a cryptocurrency that it will take time as there is a very strong focus on research and development) obviously they have hoped they can move on... how to attract new people which such a big instamine scam? simple...ignore it and hope anybody else ignores it too ;-) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 04:26:28 PM Wasn't DASH (or Darkcoin) premined to absolute shit right under everyones noses? last I read was that they had a massive premine.. Who would even use this shit? People need to stop supporting shitcoins and need to start supporting coins with actual innovation. DASH was premined to shit.. and that in my eyes makes it worth basically nothing.. A 1% premine.. Cool. But last I checked that shit was over 10% premined and it was done secretly. Monero has a terrible client. And I've never used dash.. So I can't say which is the victor... was monero premined? Dash was instamined, which is different then premine Monero was also instamined or fastmined with their crippled miner 29 march 2014 (scam biased link removed) viewed : 12,325 (scam biased links removed) Keep lying qwizzie Monero had an issue with the miner optimization inherited from Bytecoin, but the same number of coins were emitted as per the emission schedule. Compare that to DASH, where eduffield instamines 1.5 million coins (25% of all coins in current supply) in the first 8 hours. then drastically reduces the emission rate when he's done instamining https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnhrM2zE.png&t=559&c=J9j0Bz_hrD8cDw After he was finished instamining, Evan had this to say: Great, now that everything is stable, I'll be posting later about the vision of this project and milestones! Time to move on to actually implementing what I set out to do. Sure sounds like an accident You're a pathetic scam defender qwizzie. keep trying though Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 04:29:42 PM The dash deception :(
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCrKgFUU.png&t=559&c=X3fjeT28f_s-dQ Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 04:35:22 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right :
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... only dumb trolls would think dumb thoughts like that. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: onemorexmr on December 12, 2015, 04:47:44 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right : Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... i am very sure he was the biggest and earliest. did you forgot that he lied about the exact start date? the wallet download sucked; he had to supply it multiple times and so on... i was there... and i have given up after a while because the launch was very chaotic. my opinion about eduffields capabilites as a dev hasnt much changed since (i wrote a few posts about that in the ANN thread: BEFORE monero even existed) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 04:58:38 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right : Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... i am very sure he was the biggest and earliest. did you forgot that he lied about the exact start date? the wallet download sucked; he had to supply it multiple times and so on... i was there... and i have given up after a while because the launch was very chaotic. my opinion about eduffields capabilites as a dev hasnt much changed since (i wrote a few posts about that in the ANN thread: BEFORE monero even existed) sure the launch was chaotic, code was messed up, things didn't go as planned... all true. But ever since that launch that dev has commited himself fulltime on this Dash project, even stopped with his paid day job. And he and his dev-team have delivered .. and boy have they delivered : X11 Darksend Dark Gravity Wave InstantX Decentralised voting Decentralised budget Building-up the second most powerfull network (some 5400 nodes of which 3400 full nodes .. the so called masternodes. Check my signature) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 04:59:37 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right : https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... only dumb trolls would think dumb thoughts like that. 1.5 million in the first 8 hours, after Evan said he'd only launch it tomorrow. So yeah, the whole thing smells pretty fucking bad. And you're here defending it. qwizzie :( Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: arielbit on December 12, 2015, 05:02:14 PM I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why? Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing. Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway. Many people were disturbed by the instamine situation and challenged it. There was mixed signals from Dash about the instamine and as such there has never really been a conclusion to the argument. It just lingers. So, in a sense it's an argument that revolves around Dash's credibility. INSTAMINE SUGAR COATING (https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118) there you go Macrochip is a shady ass person, included in my list here. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282836.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282836.0) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: onemorexmr on December 12, 2015, 05:04:26 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right : Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... i am very sure he was the biggest and earliest. did you forgot that he lied about the exact start date? the wallet download sucked; he had to supply it multiple times and so on... i was there... and i have given up after a while because the launch was very chaotic. my opinion about eduffields capabilites as a dev hasnt much changed since (i wrote a few posts about that in the ANN thread: BEFORE monero even existed) sure the launch was chaotic, code was messed up, things didn't go as planned... all true. But ever since that launch that dev has commited himself fulltime on this Dash project, even stopped with his paid day job. And he and his dev-team have delivered .. and boy have they delivered : X11 Darksend Dark Gravity Wave InstantX Decentralised voting Decentralised budget Building-up the second most powerfull network (some 5400 nodes of which 3400 full nodes .. the so called masternodes. Check my signature) the bolded part is the reason why i think he was the biggest early miner (not really alone.. but others just didnt had a chance) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right : Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... i am very sure he was the biggest and earliest. did you forgot that he lied about the exact start date? the wallet download sucked; he had to supply it multiple times and so on... i was there... and i have given up after a while because the launch was very chaotic. my opinion about eduffields capabilites as a dev hasnt much changed since (i wrote a few posts about that in the ANN thread: BEFORE monero even existed) sure the launch was chaotic, code was messed up, things didn't go as planned... all true. But ever since that launch that dev has commited himself fulltime on this Dash project, even stopped with his paid day job. And he and his dev-team have delivered .. and boy have they delivered : X11 Darksend Dark Gravity Wave InstantX Decentralised voting Decentralised budget Building-up the second most powerfull network (some 5400 nodes of which 3400 full nodes .. the so called masternodes. Check my signature) the bolded part is the reason why i think he was the biggest early miner (not really alone.. but others just didnt had a chance) Well, at least we have a dev that didnt cash-out when he could have at 0.027, is still highly motivated and busy coding at his Dash project and provided us with a pretty neat GUI wallet (with help of other dev-team members) and appearently interested in leaving us with a legacy in time (digital cash) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 05:16:23 PM Well, at least we have a dev that didnt cash-out when he could have at 0.027, is still highly motivated and busy coding at his Dash project and provided us with a pretty neat GUI wallet (with help of other dev-team members) and appearently interested in leaving us with a legacy in time (digital cash) How do you know about eduffield's trades? It doesn't make sense to "cash out" completely since he's getting the daily masternode payments from his scam instamine. Keep going.... Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: generalizethis on December 12, 2015, 05:18:01 PM at least i'm bringing facts to the table and have my numbers right : Quote There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. and of course it would be pretty dumb to think Evan was the only miner back then..... i am very sure he was the biggest and earliest. did you forgot that he lied about the exact start date? the wallet download sucked; he had to supply it multiple times and so on... i was there... and i have given up after a while because the launch was very chaotic. my opinion about eduffields capabilites as a dev hasnt much changed since (i wrote a few posts about that in the ANN thread: BEFORE monero even existed) sure the launch was chaotic, code was messed up, things didn't go as planned... all true. But ever since that launch that dev has commited himself fulltime on this Dash project, even stopped with his paid day job. And he and his dev-team have delivered .. and boy have they delivered : X11 Darksend Dark Gravity Wave InstantX Decentralised voting Decentralised budget Building-up the second most powerfull network (some 5400 nodes of which 3400 full nodes .. the so called masternodes) X11 is insecure as the more chains you have, the more likely that an exploit can be found in one of those chains (and no, you can't just roll back and eliminate the exploited chain as the exploit may go unnoticed for some time and be un-rewindable). Darksend isn't as secure as protocol level privacy and apparently takes 20+ hours for a mix-in of 4. Decentralized voting and budget are a sham considering the votes are most likely concentrated in the hands of the instaminers, which would almost ensure that they would vote in order to further benefit themselves no matter if the result had a negative effect on those who hold smaller amounts. If that's innovation, then cryptocurrency will never look more appealing than the current monetary system and all bets are off for a major cryptocurrency disruption. Thankfully, it's only Evan using the hype of exaggerated promises (with a conspicuous lack of peer review) to give the impression of technical innovation. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: busterzzz on December 12, 2015, 05:25:55 PM I was going to get some monero but I couldn't find a working wallet and I would rather not leave money on exchanges. Maybe if the developers spent more time developing and less time on bitcointalk/reddit there would be a working wallet. I don't get involved in the bullshit between the two groups because it's a big fat waste of time for anyone who does. Why would I sit here and defend something I believe in when I'm not getting paid to do so? Go outside and look up, there's this thing called the sky and it's beautiful.
Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: phishead on December 12, 2015, 05:27:57 PM The fact of the matter is that there is always going to be trolls in both the Monero threads and Dash threads, sure there maybe not be as many in the ANN thread for Monero, but it's more prevalent in the speculation thread. But seriously though...
Why does it really matter? People get so offended when people point out flaws of other coins? Personally, I find it better this way that both communities fact check each other so it won't get to be so much of a circle jerk. The only time it gets to be annoying is when people just reply with "LOL" and add a one line zinger to make the other person look idiotic. There are people who are deemed "trolls" from each side that present information in a very informative way, and then there are the people who actually make it somewhat unbearable to read the threads for both coins because they make such shitty arguments and are more interested in trying to pick a fight with a certain member. It's important to realize that when people pick a certain coin to get behind, that they aren't necessarily behind what every person from that community says on a thread. So even though I support and prefer to deal with Monero, doesn't mean that I support what everyone says from the Monero community. I think when anyone shows support for a coin and then posts in a different ANN or speculation thread, that they are automatically deemed a "troll" because they have somewhat of a bias; when in all reality they might just be trying to learn more for themselves or fact check other members who are posting there. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 12, 2015, 05:28:54 PM I was going to get some monero but I couldn't find a working wallet and I would rather not leave money on exchanges. Maybe if the developers spent more time developing and less time on bitcointalk/reddit there would be a working wallet. I don't get involved in the bullshit between the two groups because it's a big fat waste of time for anyone who does. Why would I sit here and defend something I believe in when I'm not getting paid to do so? Go outside and look up, there's this thing called the sky and it's beautiful. you couldn't find a working wallet out of the several unofficial wallets available? ::) guess you couldn't figure out how to use the cli simplewallet either.. i mean look at the rocket science you'd need: Quote transfer <mixin> <Deposit Address> <amount> Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: phishead on December 12, 2015, 05:31:04 PM I was going to get some monero but I couldn't find a working wallet and I would rather not leave money on exchanges. Maybe if the developers spent more time developing and less time on bitcointalk/reddit there would be a working wallet. I don't get involved in the bullshit between the two groups because it's a big fat waste of time for anyone who does. Why would I sit here and defend something I believe in when I'm not getting paid to do so? Go outside and look up, there's this thing called the sky and it's beautiful. Well, there is mymonero which is a webwallet that a lot of people like to use and is not necessarily an "exchange" by any means. You are in control of your private key there and don't necessarily have to trust a third party, but there is the concern of it being an online wallet. There are also other GUI's that you can compile off github, but that's more for the advanced user, and even I'm still having troubles with it (still learning about the benefits of Linux and how to properly use it). Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: bitowl on December 12, 2015, 05:31:53 PM things didn't go as planned... all true. But ever since that launch that dev has commited himself fulltime on this Dash project, even stopped with his paid day job. I'm actually an impartial person in this thread since I'm completely ignorant of what's going on in the altcoin world... but this isn't convincing at all. I'd quit my job too if I successfully convinced people to adopt my coin after shadily mining ridiculous sums of them due to an "error". Not to say the development and such hasn't been good since but getting off to such a shady start just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And to the monero trolls, as someone said upthread, many of you come across as 16 year olds and are doing a disservice to the people actually working on it. It's possible to criticize a competitor without coming across as immature, work on it. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 12, 2015, 05:38:32 PM those are both good posts (busturzzz and phishead --> page 2) and i think i will indeed go outside and look at the sky for awhile,
eventhough the sun went down some time ago and its all black .. but hey, i might catch a falling star ;D edit : this thread is moving fast Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: smoothie on December 12, 2015, 11:33:26 PM Here is a pretty decent compilation of issues that DASH has as a "crypto coin" all of which can be backed up by facts.
To see all approporiate links associated with highlighted text here is the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2zufu1/a_great_podcast_by_lets_talk_bitcoin_discussing/cpmvogy **It should be noted that some dash supporters on that reddit thread think that FACTS are "trailer park behaviour" and "slinging mud". Read on at that link for more context of the discussion which will give you perspective into the psyche of some dash supporters (not sure if it is a mental illness or willful denial of the facts by making such absurd assertions as BOLDED above). https://i.imgur.com/fbAvrKN.png Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: iCEBREAKER on December 13, 2015, 06:15:56 AM Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. Clash (not your hippie-ass "PEACE" and moral equivalency) is the crucible from which truth emerges. Are you afraid of the truth about Dash emerging? You sound almost exactly like the erstwhile defenders of Gox, Pirate, Craptsy, Paycoin, and Neucoin, begging for a truce with their accusers. No peace with criminals. It was bad enough when Darkcoin's "snake oil" was marketed at crypto-nerds, now they plan to target normal people with Dash's "bad crypto" and Masternode HYIP. "If you see fraud and don't shout fraud, you are a fraud." -NN Taleb Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: iCEBREAKER on December 13, 2015, 06:31:57 AM Wasn't DASH (or Darkcoin) premined to absolute shit right under everyones noses? last I read was that they had a massive premine.. Yes, DASH was effectively premined because the launch was moved up in spite of Scumbag Evan's "let's put it off for a few days; yes illodum you can go to sleep now" announcement to the contrary. That fact has been well-known since Feb 2014: So what's the rationale for this block reward system? (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2)) As I understand it, the TOTAL distribution per unit time will come crashing down as network hashrate goes up. Not to mention each miner is getting a tinier slice. That's rather discouraging. Apart from Darksend, I think this is the best feature of the coin. All other altcoins become diluted if they doesn't become a instant success like Dogecoin. So the early adopter edge becomes even more overwhelming? Nice way to kill a coin. An exchange medium is only worth something if others agree and also have a stake. We'll just end up a small group of hoarders waiting around for something to happen. Reminds me of QRK. That is overstating things. Reading through the thread, it is abundantly clear that the devs and other early adopters believe in the coin and are not planning a massive dump. IMO this is a feature -- not a problem or a scam. Basically, it allows for the devs to have a more fine control over how the coin is released into the market; and thus prevents a “mid-life” dump via multipools and whale miners that troubles many a coin once the price starts to rise. As mentioned above, if a coin is super-popular from the beginning like Doge then there is no problem as it gets distributed to a wide range of miners. Even if whales or whatnot show up later there is a big enough dedicated mining community that in effect prevents these entities from negatively effecting the market. On the other hand, coins that don't blow up from the beginning and slowly rise in price due to the efforts of the early adopters, inevitably get attacked by these whales/mutlipools -- and the diff increase alone never seems to be enough to prevent a ton of coins of entering the hands of the few. When these coins get dumped... the market crashes. The way Darkcoin is currently set up this cannot happen. And yes, even though Darkcoin is multipool resistant – it is still vulnerable to whales (it was actually getting hammered before the diff /reward system was enhanced by KGW). Now, I know it may seem unfair to latecomer miners and some trolls even went as far as trying to discourage people by calling this a instamine. But the thing is... the vast majority of coins have a high percentage owned by early adopters. That is the reward they get for believing in the coin before anybody else. Due to the diff/reward system Darkcoin might be a little more extreme, but as I just explained that system has a very important purpose. Lastly, it is not like the devs are not willing to respond. Take a look at the diff/reward chart below. http://hfr-rehost.dev.syn.fr/self/fe845483eb882d58b69eb30951f1473ee25bcac5.png The blue line is actually a hardfork that was put in place a couple of weeks ago to be ready for GPU miners (GPU client first released last week) so that reward wouldn't drop to zero once the hash power went through the roof. Tldr; This is a fair coin. The diff/reward is a feature that allows more fine control over how much coin is released into the market and thus prevents manipulation by whales who plan to dump. lol, how is this effectively different than a premine? Gliss uses the most technical definition of 'premine' possible to justify putting Dash back on the 'not premined' list. For one brief, shining moment he was honest about it (right after the DASH OP took the "No Premine" claim out of their [ANN] thread title). But he changed his mind, probably after being bribed by CoinTelegraph and threatened by DashHoles. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: iCEBREAKER on December 13, 2015, 06:56:08 AM guess you couldn't figure out how to use the cli simplewallet either.. i mean look at the rocket science you'd need: Quote transfer <mixin> <Deposit Address> <amount> DashHoles are simple people. Please don't blow their minds with all your fancy Computer Science book learnings. Oops, too late... https://i.imgur.com/F1yX3Dj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/i8TKBsC.jpg https://i.imgur.com/McVhnD7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ih6PDhe.gif https://i.imgur.com/oX9APY3.gif Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: HeroCat on December 13, 2015, 01:29:38 PM There can be two ways - Dash will win Monero, or Monero win Dash. As you can see Monero price is quite low :D
Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: smoothie on December 13, 2015, 07:22:58 PM There can be two ways - Dash will win Monero, or Monero win Dash. As you can see Monero price is quite low :D Price isn't always a good metric to measure success. Solidcoin had higher prices than litecoin for months and solidcoin was run and developed by a well known scammer now. And solidcoin as far as I can tell is not traded nor mined by anyone anymore. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 13, 2015, 07:28:52 PM oh my, look at what i just saw in the sky outside :
https://i.imgur.com/GNhW21A.jpg now what to wish for ??? Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: cryptodromeda on December 14, 2015, 02:55:51 AM Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. Clash (not your hippie-ass "PEACE" and moral equivalency) is the crucible from which truth emerges. Are you afraid of the truth about Dash emerging? You sound almost exactly like the erstwhile defenders of Gox, Pirate, Craptsy, Paycoin, and Neucoin, begging for a truce with their accusers. No peace with criminals. It was bad enough when Darkcoin's "snake oil" was marketed at crypto-nerds, now they plan to target normal people with Dash's "bad crypto" and Masternode HYIP. "If you see fraud and don't shout fraud, you are a fraud." -NN Taleb Everyone knows about the instamine situation - you don't have to keep harping on about it and it's just becoming irritating. The chips are where they are. Whatever will be will be. Besides, the only people who are behind Dash at the moment are investors who are below break-even. Who gives a fuck? With Monero, a cheap price is seen as an opportunity which leads to averaging down. But with Dash, the investors don't have confidence in Dash's credible future prospects (which is heightened every time a Bitcoin core developer or other crypto-celebrity speaks out about it) therefore no-one wants to buy more Dash, therefore there is no averaging-down, and therefore the Dash investors get particularly pissy. Let me just repeat that: Dash investors can't average down because they are trying to get rid of their stash. The last thing they want to do is buy more. That's not the case with Monero. That's why Dash investors are particularly pissy and that's where all the noise is coming from. So forget about it. It's not even worth fighting over. You're just going over tired territory. Peace. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: daveon on December 14, 2015, 03:47:57 PM If Dash is so confident, why did it go through 2 name changes?
XCoin -> Darkcoin -> DASH Plus, DASH sounds like they are running from something. What a bad name. Who would even think that it is digital cash? What is emporer Duffield next name change going to be? Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: obit33 on December 14, 2015, 03:55:18 PM If Dash is so confident, why did it go through 2 name changes? XCoin -> Darkcoin -> DASH Plus, DASH sounds like they are running from something. What a bad name. Who would even think that it is digital cash? What is emporer Duffield next name change going to be? crypto-cash or CRASH might be suitable by then... Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: arielbit on December 15, 2015, 02:54:17 AM If Dash is so confident, why did it go through 2 name changes? XCoin -> Darkcoin -> DASH Plus, DASH sounds like they are running from something. What a bad name. Who would even think that it is digital cash? What is emporer Duffield next name change going to be? Xcoin was instamined millions were mined in 8 hours up until 24hrs Darkcoin's block reward modified and 84M to 18M reduced coin supply...they realized the name is not for mainstream DASH name is for mainstream and they are attempting to bury it's past through name changes...they even tried to kill dashcoin for its name https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678232) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: bigfryguy on December 15, 2015, 03:22:45 AM if the two coins would just focus on the work they have done pioneering anon crypto transfers they would be so much better off.
oh well I guess you guys prefer the soap opera that you have created. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: arielbit on December 15, 2015, 03:51:04 AM if the two coins would just focus on the work they have done pioneering anon crypto transfers they would be so much better off. oh well I guess you guys prefer the soap opera that you have created. looking at the bright side..a soap opera in crypto land 8) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: smoothie on December 15, 2015, 05:36:16 AM Dash is perpetually trying to be as credible and respected as Monero - they've noticed that Greg Maxwell, Peter Todd ets all are firmly in the Monero camp - even Charlie Lee of Litecoin has spoken out that it's hard for people to get behind Dash. So it just seems that Dash have sour grapes and are constantly on the attack. Just look at the altcoin discussion thread right now. It's riddled with this shit. Of course there are antagonists on all sides. What we need is diplomacy and PEACE. Enough of this war already. Clash (not your hippie-ass "PEACE" and moral equivalency) is the crucible from which truth emerges. Are you afraid of the truth about Dash emerging? You sound almost exactly like the erstwhile defenders of Gox, Pirate, Craptsy, Paycoin, and Neucoin, begging for a truce with their accusers. No peace with criminals. It was bad enough when Darkcoin's "snake oil" was marketed at crypto-nerds, now they plan to target normal people with Dash's "bad crypto" and Masternode HYIP. "If you see fraud and don't shout fraud, you are a fraud." -NN Taleb Everyone knows about the instamine situation - you don't have to keep harping on about it and it's just becoming irritating. The chips are where they are. Whatever will be will be. Besides, the only people who are behind Dash at the moment are investors who are below break-even. Who gives a fuck? With Monero, a cheap price is seen as an opportunity which leads to averaging down. But with Dash, the investors don't have confidence in Dash's credible future prospects (which is heightened every time a Bitcoin core developer or other crypto-celebrity speaks out about it) therefore no-one wants to buy more Dash, therefore there is no averaging-down, and therefore the Dash investors get particularly pissy. Let me just repeat that: Dash investors can't average down because they are trying to get rid of their stash. The last thing they want to do is buy more. That's not the case with Monero. That's why Dash investors are particularly pissy and that's where all the noise is coming from. So forget about it. It's not even worth fighting over. You're just going over tired territory. Peace. Uhh no not everyone knows about the instamine otherwise the entire human race would know. Please stop downplaying a pretty big fact for those new people who come to crypto/Bitcoin communities to know about dash. Dash's instamine will follow it for as long as it exists. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: aleix on December 15, 2015, 08:58:42 AM What a surprise. The usual trolls from the Monero community talking about Dash in a new thread.
http://hgx.com.mx/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/dia_de_la_marmota_01.jpg Lovely ;) Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: DrkLvr_ on December 15, 2015, 01:21:03 PM What a surprise. The usual Right on schedule aleix. I'm sure your leader is very pleased with how dependable you are Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: qwizzie on December 15, 2015, 07:00:28 PM better question from OP would have been : why are the Monero trolls feeling so insecure ? Clinging to threads
like these as if it is their life-line... Monero trolls perhaps dreaming dark dreams like these ? https://i.imgur.com/IaSoR4h.jpg Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: cryptodromeda on December 16, 2015, 01:31:29 AM better question from OP would have been : why are the Monero trolls feeling so insecure ? Clinging to threads like these as if it is their life-line... And ironically you responded... which says a lot about the insecurity of the Dash trolls. Remember that it was Dash trolls who started all this. The Monero community has simply been defending itself. Title: Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? Post by: smoothie on December 16, 2015, 01:42:05 AM better question from OP would have been : why are the Monero trolls feeling so insecure ? Clinging to threads like these as if it is their life-line... And ironically you responded... which says a lot about the insecurity of the Dash trolls. Remember that it was Dash trolls who started all this. The Monero community has simply been defending itself. Its funny to see the irony of his post...and yet he can't even see it before posting that load of garbage. :P |
