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Fasten your seat belts. This crash is going to be interesting.  Make sure you have nothing invested that you can't lose.
TA shows this could be a new low.

The price went down a few bucks and you start yelling that the crash will begin. Why don't you say such a thing when the price isn't going down?

What TA ? Come on share the analysis if you going to shout about it

I have sold some of my bitcoin, before it fall under $400. but if it happens is good enough to buy some bitcoin back :)

The 2016 crash has begun? How?

The Bitcoin price is still rising, slowly but surely. Just this past fall, it was in the late $200s. Now, a few months later it's risen to well above $400. There will also be, I believe, a surge in usage of Bitcoin and participation. It really helps when companies like Microsoft start accepting them as payment (Which they did in previous years and will continue to do so in 2016). So, actually I don't think you're correct I believe there will be a huge price increase this year.

But maybe I'm just a glass half full kind of guy.

Wtf is wrong with you.

You would have fun in stock markets running around with a cardboard sign in wall street screaming ITS CRASHing. iT's. CRASHING

what you're talking about all i see is the same price that was there since 3 days, 432, stuck there without no movements, best rock solid you can get

don't to worry i see we have big wall at price $400 many people have buy order so if price crash to $400 just for a while then price will up again.

Kwickduck take note, see this analysis (although a chart would also be nice)

for what its worth I agree with this picture, in my view price will probably not drop below $400

Bitcoin dropped with $5 dollar and Fuckduck starts spreading FUD again..

This needs to stop, bann this guy.

Lol, there are a lot of maniacs lately, I've counted like 10 of these threads already, they are always on the weekends where the price usually takes a dip. I don't understand what's the purpose since I don't think a couple of these spam posts will drive the price further down, maybe some cents in their minds hehe.

We can't ban him! He's too entertaining lol.
You can guarantee a post within 5 minutes of the price dropping and then he creates new accounts, under random names, with exactly the same writing style spouting pump and dump ponzi scheme and other bitcoin is dying rubbish.
I find the guy fascinating lol

Wouldn't a new low be less then a penny?  Is this what your expert analysis team is telling you?

Everyone has a right to their own opinion.  Ban him,  ban you...

My seatbelt is still fastened from when you called for a crash from $220 to $150.  I'm beginning to think you're an idiot.

Literally every thread ever by kwukduck:

http://orig12.deviantart.net/aa0e/f/2008/260/5/0/nobody_is_right_by_3_angled_blue.png

Replace the quote with "hey guys it's going to crash! SELL!"



Yeah I always see those accounts daily, the guy doing it must have a lot of free time. It doesn't necessarily need to be him tho, in fact, it's impossible to say it's kwukduck or not since IP's mean nothing anymore thanks to Tor and VPN's (which is good but as a side effect we have to deal with all those 1-post per account trolls).

Right now as I am writing price are still at 429 $ and as about TA these are dependent on investors they can change the whole estimates in a matter of minutes.There will be many ups/downs in price which should be welcomed with big heart as movement is sign of life.Price will not drop under 400 $ in no case my friend.

The price hasn't been changed a lot but even if the crash happens then it will be recovered asap even before the halving time.

I don't see either any immediate crash coming towards Bitcoin.In any case I see the price in context of block halving and that thing strengthen and will back the price in coming weeks.

where is the crash you are talking about? i can't see anything that looks like a starting crash. is this again what you and your super "team" came up with?

It's pretty clear Kwukduk the fag forgot to buy in back when the price was $200-300 LOL! How's the 10 bitcoin and under club working out for ya kwuk?

Dunno, price looks pretty stable at the moment and is moving predominantly sideways. Might very well be that watching the value of BTC this january is as boring as watching a snail move from A to B.

OHZ NOES!!!

Duck, I'm sure your analysis team is busy at the conference table furiously beating off through the holes in their front pockets, waiting for this TA-predicted crash to occur.  And it just might, but I say you have it all wrong sir. 

May I ask how much you're short?

It maybe boring to watch but the truth is I personally would rather it move the way it is than the prediction the little ducky made come to fruition.
January has been a gloomy time for btc in the past since I've been around so I am expecting nothing less this time around.
Unless we have just priced the halving in on this last rise we have got some exciting times to come in the next few months. I do think it has already been priced and that will keep many holding the bag when the dumpage comes.
Because lets face it everyone and their aunt knows its going to moon so hard for the halving. 

I do not like this kind of pestimistic speculation threads that are not based on any real analytics. Only spreading fear between holders to start selling their btc

Bohoo OP go away, what a bad attempt to spread some negative speculation.

Lol another troll.

I am aware we see a lot of pro bitcoin threads, but this is just ridiculous.
A mini mini crash to 224 and then back to 230.

P.S. Yes I sold all my bitcoins after your thread.

Crash?
+-1% doesn't constitute a rally/crash in bitcoin (or in any other asset class for that matter).
We can easily reverse the few dollars decrease in price.

I always suspect that if a legendary account FUD something like this were sold to someone. Its surprising to see really when someone with a legendary account posting something like this without a link as the source of what made them conclude.

Mind you, if you intend to buy btc today, you can still earn a lot once its value reach more than $500. But i guess i don't have to tell you that.

What is all this fuzz about Legendary account holders? They are as regular as users can get. Just because we have been on this forum for longer doesn't make us any smarter or more (re-)sourceful. If someone wants to post a source or train of thought where he is coming from, fine. If not, he may be taking a wild guess or sharing a personal opinion, fine to me too. Sometimes guesses can be interesting too or shed new light on a subject. This is the speculation forum afterall.

Having said this, I wouldn't be surprised to see the price going down to 400 again either. The entire idea of the halving having any effect on the price is based on a misunderstanding of how mining works and Bitcoin is distributed.

Yes, I don't  see any such  impending fall or crash as OP described.
My strong belief is that bitcoin price is going to rise. I think momentary falls do not mean any such impending crash.

Yeah! The crash has indeed been initiated, just now it reached a low of $365..... :-X You are soo full of nonsense most of the times. I wonder if your account has several holders, because some times what you say makes good sense, and the other day it's pure nonsense.

$365 in which exchange?

Bitstamp :
Last Price:  $430.43
Daily Change:  -$0.61  / -0.14%
Day's Range:  $428.44 - $432.43
Today's Open: $431.54

Bitcoin prices are more now stable. And today is not April 1st?.....

Do you mean the price will crash from $450 to $399? If so, we do not worry. The price crashes all the time.

You clearly don't seem to get it. No problem, it was a sarcastic reaction on kwukduck his nonsense analysis. :)

Why do you say the crash has begun when the price dropped just 1%. Do you want to buy more when people sell?

Always will start 1%. After a 1% become heavier to sell.

I am not sure in 2016 will weaken against the bitcoin. I know in 2016 bitcoin will be more widely used.

What crash? It's 431...if something, we will go up as fuck if no catastrophic event occurs

The Bitcoin crash hasn't begun yet. Just because the coin fell a few bucks, doesn't mean it will keep falling - in fact, most assets fall and rise multiple times a day/week/mont/year.

a natural thing. The financial world all prices continue to move. gold, dollar, yen, foreign exchange moves up and down. it is a natural thing

there is no crash, what are you talking about? the price of bitcoin is going up and down all the time and there is no big decrease right now, i hope that it will soon start growing very fast to the new all time high

Many troll topics about the price going to crash.
It's just some scaretactics from people who sold to low and now want to buy back.

Sorry to disappoint you. But TA and fundamental flaws do not lie.
If there ever was a time to sell/short, it is now.

Put your money where your mouth is and come crying again next month after you lost some serious cash again.

Nice to see that the price actually started moving in the opposite direction after you posted this. Shows how epic your TA skills are.

and once again one of your predictions turn out to be wrong. you are either trolling or just don't know what you are talking about. the price is going up instead of down...

He meant the stock crash not Bitcoin crash. Look at the stock markets around the world (especially in China) and you will understand what he wants to say.
When the stock markets crash, it is usually a good sign for Bitcoin price.

Crashing in reverse..

Totally aggree. There will be definitely will be a big crash sometime in 2016 or 2017. The fundamental data talks a clear language.

The Chinese economy has to face the biggest debt bubble in human history.

And when it crashes I will scoop up more coins...  ::)

Love crashes

The 2016  rally has begun.  :)

I only see the stock exchanges crashing, while BTC doesn't move at all, at least until now

For any newbies not yet familiar with our resident "end-of-the-world-is-nigh!" idiot called KwukDuck and his constant spouting of crap unsupported by any evidence or even indicative of more than 2 seconds of rational thought, I suggest you have a look at his post history.  heres a quick link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=654;sa=showPosts

A quick peruse of his history will show you he's basically been playing the same cracked record with minor variations in the terminology forever.  

dumps, crash, ponzi, bags, down, sell, dead cat, warning, scam, yada yada..  
and hes pretty much *always wrong.  see if you can find any occasion where he has made a correct call..  I cant.

every now and then he tries to pretend he has some TA or evidence to back his claims, but ask for them or challenge him and he will just ignore you, and just start yet another thread with some other load of crap about protocol scaling, blockchain forks, or something impressive sounding that he really has absolutely no understanding of.

It would be nice if the forum had some sort of "reputation" system where people could tag your posts as useful, stupid, wrong, informative, lying or whatever and it tallied up the positives and negatives.   Kwuk would be at about - minus several million for good thinking about now.   Instead, hes "Legendary" because hes been here for a long time and posts a lot of crap.

Ah well, theres one in every crowd.  (Actually, theres *several around here, he's just the most prolific).

;)

as usual, it was so clear that the market is aiming to break 500, only a retard would think otherwise

i know we weill see the same action between 2xx and 300

You will be disappointed. There is no crash at all. The bitcoin price is still around $430, which is similar to a week ago.

Since you started preaching about crashes the price has nearly tripled.

Hey, come to think of it, aren't you that guy who sold his coins for 10$? LOL

I have seen several people mention in his threads that he sold his coins for $10, but where do they get this information from? Or they are just trolling. Either way, I don't believe anything that kwukduck says, he is just a trolling champion bear.

It is beneath us to compare stock market returns and bitcoin returns.  :)

I think $400 is a new low, this is purely based on what I've been seeing these past couple of weeks. I don't think that bitcoin will drop below $400.
The holidays are just now over, I think some people just need to recover from as to what they have spent the last month. I think that that's one of the reason why the bitcoin market is slowing down.

Him and his team of analysts losers will never share anything with you as there is nothing to share. Just fairy tails. It must suck to be so bad at trading you need to take to a forum to try and spread some fud to bring the price down to a level for you to get in so you dont come up short, again. Again, and again i could go on and on. kwuk most have invested what they can afford that is why there are hardly any butthurts like you.

hope so but im not sure this is the new bottom of bitcoin price. i think situation is still danger,price can dump anytime. i prefer to waiting until mid january or end january to see how long bitcoin can survive at level $400

That the price will be lower is not a reason to panic. The price will rise again like it always do and a low price have also some good part. The payout of some services will rise so the earning of Bitcoin will be easier.

bitcoin is not crashing right now so nothing has started

This post made me check Preev the moment I finished reading the sentence, lol. It's so annoying to see these fear-mongering posts with no basis whatsoever.

The next post it going to be 2016 Bitcoin boom has begun!

I hate to say I told you so....

So I'm not... just watch your money burn away...

You are right. Bitcoin price now a days more stable. This type of stable prices are usually tends to higher prices always. The economic events are more supportive for positive bitcoin prices. 2016 is going to be the year of bitcoin in all means.

I don't expect any significant crash until closer to the halving. This could be the first move up before a much bigger move in a few months time.

No crash yet...any change in sentiments?

More realistically, why do you expect a "2016 crash"? Why does the shift to a new year become the trigger for a sell off? It's all very arbitrary, there needs to be direct correlation between the driver and the consequence.

I think like anything with this collapsing,deprecating economy outside of Bitcoin is a bad idea tbh if they want to sell lol.

Sentiment is still bullish. How can it not be with the block halving comming closer and closer. People like kwukduck are probably late with buying, or they sold at a very low amount, that might be his reason for being ultra bearish.

I think kwuckduck actually nailed it this time. Obviously he must have meant the stock markets crash and worst start to a new year since the great depression.

what a crash for you?
A new low its Im po ssi ble

Well this is not a crash what I see now.
Maybe bitcoin was not going to 500 dollar that everyone spectated at the end.
But is still a good amount for a 450 dollars.

Bitcoin is not really crashing is going up and down around above the 400 dollars. I just thing that bitcoin will just hold above 400 dollar this couple of month I doubt that it will go again to 200 dollars. Well we will see if it crash, but I don't think so.

Not really seeing a crash happening seeing as that bitcoin has been going up already.
If bitcoin keeps going up like this we can expect a $500 by the end of this month already.

Crash has begin  but on stocks  watch that interview  with ex chief of Dallas Fed,he is talking truth  how Fed
pumped stocks to high  level with printed moey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nuzT3rchPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nuzT3rchPU)

Every post from kwuckduck makes him more laughable  ;D

Crash maybe not I see that bitcoin is not dropping under 400 dollars.
So that is not a crash that is how bitcoin works just going down and up.

Why would you say that? I don't see it going crashing it is not like the other years that in January bitcoin have crashed.
Lets just have some hope that bitcoin will be just be stable around 450 dollars.

Price went up ...

The price was going down and now is going up so the crash that you spectated won't happen.
We will see if the price of bitcoin can go more up this month.

There is a significant rise in price and it above 450 $.There is not any such thing to create a crash but a stability and upward trend.I will say the price will remain overall above 425 $ for rest of the time and we are not going under this anymore for longer period except some short corrections.

No crash will happen ever.We are going to see a new ATH instead of seeing any further drop in price.This is the year of possibilities and to reach new milestones in digital currencies universe.

How are you so sure of it that a crash will never happen? It can also start to crash from $700 to $500 before the halving. This is also considered to be a crash. New ATH is still far away, and in the meantime anything can happen.

Bitcoin is delivering a fantastic performance as stocks all over the world collapse, OP could have never been more wrong with his prediction. Im sorry, but we are yet to begin the real uprise. Best time to be a Bitcoin holder in human history is right now and beyond.

Quite a "crash". It was about $430 when he warned us. Now it's down to a meager $454. Quite a crash indeed.

And this is just the beginning according to OP. I'm looking forward to when this "crash" really gets into full swing. Should be devastating.  :)

Does bitcoin go up every time a crash occurs because we've made some pretty good headway today and will be looking forward to further stock market crashes if bitcoin steams on through without a bother in the world. If thats the case i would have thought more people would jump on the bitcoin bandwagon knowing that this is the case.

Don't forget, LTC crashed after the halving ;)

no, it will not happen, unless there is such a thing cause, such as an increase in illegal transactions, and others, but it will not happen as long as its growing

it seems that bitcoin is crashing upward all the time, i'm guessing that when this crash explode we get the new peak

That's because the amount of speculation in Litecoin is very high. I think it was easy 50% of the value back then. It will always come down if there is no real demand anymore.

The price was quite stable recently. $440+-6%. So the current price is still within the range. If the price is higher than $470 then it is a breakout.

I'm liking how it's burning ... UP

Great crash, I'm loving it!  ;D

This is the inverse crash, the price crashes to $460. If it keeps on crashing, the price will be $500 soon.

I don't want bitcoin to crash down, but it will be nice if the price is at 300 dollars so I can buy bitcoins.
This price is to high for me I just prefer to earn, but take so long to make just 1 bitcoin.

Nah you are dreaming bitcoin is going up maybe not that fast just little a little.
I bet before halving the price will be at 500 dollars.

Witch month of 2016? Because I don't see for now that bitcoin is crashing.
I think bitcoin is preparing to go to the moon so we will see what will happen than this year.

Up and down all the time you will see the price of Bitcoin is never stable. But that is nice for trading on exchanges if the exchanges pay you and not scam you.

The point was indeed that LTC has not any value or purpose. It is a speculation coin with no features. See it as silver and BTC as gold (just an example).

BTC didn't.
Mine real coins, not scams.

There is no sign of crash this month and i think it will gradually increase after halving ends.
I think the title is misleading that the price is not crash you should change it in to bitcoin price jump has begun...

Well, it is the 2nd halving coming up, not the first one.

Yeah, almost 4 years ago. Now a days there are other investors in it, not only beliebers ;-)

@OP,
We are heading towards $500 these days, do you call this crash???
Or a reverse crash I guess??? ;)
Can you please explain where did you see this crash coming from???

Just watch the charts.. the crash seem to have been delayed but it's going down right now.
Sentiment is negative. Selling pressure is high. Fundamentals are weak.

Delayed again? Aw (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303933.msg13359231#msg13359231) shucks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1296920.msg13307603#msg13307603), not (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1280094.msg13178702#msg13178702) again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275629.msg13148166#msg13148166) :(

Even everything are in favor of down fall, bitcoin prices are moving upward. That has happened many times in past. I believe that's the beauty of bitcoin prices. As you have described may be the crash had been infinitely delayed.

Infinitely delayed?
That must be good term to describe the present situation of bitcoin price movements. Bitcoin is trading right now very stable. I do not smell any crash.

bitcoin will be stable at 450$ and new candidate for new bottom this year.
i dont know how high will bitcoin can go,he can climb up to 200$ per week.
remember when bitcoin climb up 500 in just a week.

Bitcoim won't crash without reason and no one can predict that reason without seeing the future. I think all posts that say this or it's going to the moon. If I post this enough times I'll get lucky eventually and be right.

Yes all the news are in favor of bitcoin price appreciations. In bitstamp today's range is less than $10. It means bitcoin is trading in very narrow price levels. It shows how stable bitcoin prices are currently trading. I believe we are going to see $500 levels very soon.

The $500 climb in one week was definitely market manipulation. There is simply no other explanation. It's crazy because these people were able to manipulate a market that was so large. Imagine how many Bitcoins they might have had!

The rich keep getting richer I guess.

Of course it is manipulation as it always is to start the ball rolling. It is not crazy that they can manipulate in the slightest. It makes perfect sense because even though you see a so large market, it is peanuts in the scheme of things and is not large. Rich getting richer is not new news its been happening since the creation of gold receipts/money.
Duck/OP you may get lucky and be right one day. i doubt it but its possible.

There is not such a proof that a big crash has begun, the price will be increased in the next few weeks, january is not well known for pumps but everything can happen.

Wrong week! Back in December 2013 it went from $450 to $950 in 7 days (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg1460zczsg2013-11-20zeg2013-11-27ztgS) (though, to be fair, it dipped to $450 first).

I see, i arrived just after that in Jan 2014 so never see that crazy week. Yes wrong week i misread thinking he meant the recent rise to $500. Another one of them weeks would exciting but the recent 100% rise is good enough for me.

There is no bad news to drive the price down. And there is no good news to drive up the price. The price will stay within a range.

Don't worry, such threads are made just to create some sentimental panic in the hearts of Bitcoiners in order for everyone to just throw (sell) their coins away for cheap...
And by saying cheap, I do mean that the price currently is really cheap and should go above $600...

Wow, people who invested in that week would be over the moon.
I don't think we will have another week like that going forward. :)

The market capitalistion of bitcoin is much larger than three years ago. So it is quite difficult to move it either way.

Interestingly enough, that's not correct - market cap was $8175 MM on 18 November 2013, it's $6549 MM as of 4 January 2016. (http://www.coindesk.com/data/bitcoin-market-capitalization/) Remember that market cap is a function of price, as well as number of coins.

Edit: I was out by a week - I should have used Coindesk's market cap as of 25 November 2013, to match the week where BTC/USD rose by $500. Market cap on 25 November 2013 was $11803 MM, the ATH, so the point still stands!

*apocalyptic music plays in the background*  ;D ;D

We are down a bit, yes.
But 2016 is far from over. These falls can be quickly reversed.

price drop $30 in 2 days, seems crash has started. this nice to buy a lot bitcoin before halving.. so don't panic guys

Don't get panic the fall has been observed over the world market. This occurs during the start of every year and gradually the market will be stable. This time it has effect over bitcoin because china has been affected much when compared with other countries.

If price is dropping before halving then obviously it wont be pumped after it.However i don't think 40% of the price fluctuation is even an issue for bitcoin or any other crypt-currency.This is not fiat and no country is associated.

Price is higher than it was 3 or 4 weeks ago, yep it crashed back then too ... or ... not. /sarcasm

I wish there was a troll tag here on this forum, then I definitely would nominate kwukduck to have this tag under his name. :D

The bitcoin price dropped about 3% today. Should we call it a crash or just a normal price action. Maybe it is just a start of a crash?

no it's the same shit that happened the last week, and guess what happened after it a mini pump to 450-460

is still beyond me when everyone panic for those small fluctuations, are people so dense that they cannot figure the difference between swings and p&d?

these kind of dumps are normal happenings nowadays. no need to worry. large players are trying to get some action back into the markets with these dumps. use these dumps in your advantage to buy yourself some coins if you were waiting for the price go come down. here is your drop. start buying guys.

I think it will not happen, but it will all be in the know at the end of this year, and I hope there will be no significant price reduction, but that there is a high price increases

The halving will reduce the fresh supply to the market, so I think the price will rise higher. If the sentiment is good, price will be much higher.

There are no guarantees in any investment except maybe your return on US bonds. EVERYONE expects supply pressure from the halving. Maybe this pump to 500 WAS the only increase we will see. What if there is no real utility volume and only speculative volume, in that case the halving may put no pressure on supply at all. If Bitcoin has zero utility volume, then the only way we are going higher is self-fulfilling speculating hysteria....

if zero utility volume, i think bitcoin will dead and i don't think that will happened. so no any trade in all exchanger because many trader hold a coins. impossible that will coming show up "sorry if i'm misunderstanding"

The price of bitcoin has dropped to $380 now. Is there any reason for the large drop? The price was quite good for the last two month.

Closed my short position this morning.  It was a hedge against my long BTC position, so now I am long.

BTC/USD could drop a bit more here.  Deflationary fears are driving the capital markets today.

Might be true, but today they where some bad news about bitcoin.
Is also that this is a new year always with bitcoin is going down.
And later or in the middle of the year is going up up again so we will see.

two bad news in a row, cryptsy hack, and mike dumping his thousand coins

so you can say that from the 13k stolen from cryptsy plus those other coins dumped from mike, you have around 20k dumped that can cause a panic sell

The crash has begun yes, but later it will go up.
When is going to happen we don't know.
But today is so much bad news with bitcoin so  that is just sad.

Yeah, calling btc a failure AFTER you have dumped your coin...think twice people...he is buying them right up and earns a few hundred more.

If he can earn a few hundred, I think it is not worth his time. Maybe he has a big agenda or work for somebody else.

The price recovers very well from the recent dump. It is $385 now.

So bitcoin survived another crisis and going strong. That is good indication.

Few hundred? He dumped 15k coins and yes he has a new job...he works for a bank now :/

The price still fighting and i think it will rise again but not this time. i think it will rise again on february above 400.
For now i will still collecting to increase my bitcoins.

this is the best moment to buy bitcoins if you haven't done so already. i would buy with 50% now, and save the other 50% for when the price goes down even more. that's how you minimize the risk. i have been doing the same when the price crashed from $430 to nearly $350. i am happy with the coins that i bought.

Nearly 13k unconfirmed transaction.
Another spam attack? or bitcoin is going to slowly day by day?

The zone between $350 and $400 was already proven to be very solid, and now we are due to a rebound. It was a good opportunity to buy, I agree, and I wouldn't expect falling below $350 any time soon, unless there is some very negative event (Cryptsy was too small to make such impact).

There is a halving around June. This party is far from over!

I don't find any reason beside mike (member of bitcon development team) statement about leaving bitcoin forever and cryptsy getting hacked. I think we will again go up 400 by next month, but it will take time.

not crash, just be back to 2015. $350 we can accept it

The reason for the correction is that the last growth was purely speculative and not supported by any important fundamental development. Such growths end up quickly and usually there  is a similar reaction in the opposite direction. I would say we don't have any strong arguments to move either up or down. What has popped up in the news recently is neither new nor has the potential to impact in the big way the price (Hearn was negative about Bitcoin for quite long time - check his blog, Cryptsy was badly ill either not from yesterday, plus the amount of lost coins is comparable to Mintpal rather than Mt. Gox). On the opposite side of the balance we have halving that is still far, far away. Plus nothing more. Expect more sideways trend at around $400 or so.

Yes it begun crashing, but not really is just going down.
Now bitcoin is trying to go back to 400 dollars so I think we will reach this February.

At least some one that think 350 is a okay price. Is maybe not that that high, but is cheaper to buy bitcoin with. I know that people are eager to buy bitcoins for that halving begins. The price can increase.

I think it will slowly crawl back to $400. But even with this crash and maybe others, i belive the price will rise after halving.

i believe that we will see a significant price increase before the halving. i am fairly sure people will go nuts to grab themself some last minute bitcoins to not miss out. current price is just temporary. if you have enough patience to hold your coins for a longer period, then you'll see that your choice to hold was the best possible option.

Yeah that is why is nice to see a low price for bitcoin for now is just easy to buy and is cheaper.
We all just waiting for increase, but still they are some people that want to buy more.

If some people buy some now I think they will make profit with it.

I think this crash will go up again they will just repair the rocket and go to the moon again.
Is maybe low now, but I am sure will increase later so is not dead.

And we all forgot the dickhead who dumped his coins first, called BTC a failure and started at a bank with some blockchain thingy haha. Price is almost back where it was before he dumped his stash.

He doesn't call bitcoin failed because of the price.  It failed because of broken fundamentals and stagnated development to resolve these issues.

He wasn't happy with the direction bitcoin was taking.
He had problems with people in charge of bitcoin protocol, not bitcoin per se.  :)

no he think he failed, because his shitcoin, cough xt cough did not get any consensus, this is the real reason, everything else is bullshit

he is pretty much aware about the reaomap of the fix that will be implemented to solve some of the known issues

The crash is now okay I hope that the price will go back to 450 dollars.
Now the price is at 415 dollars so we will see what will happen next this month if it goes up.

Yep, if everything goes okay we should be back up to normal price soon ;)
Feel sad to whoever that believed that Bitcoin is dead :P
Thanks to them i managed to snatch a few cheap coins ::)

Crash? Oh well now the price is at 415 so is not any more a crash we will see what will happen next with this price. I hope it can go to 450 this weekend. Bitcoin will rise bitcoin will succeed.

I would like to be as optimistic as you are, but I don't see a big grwoth just because of halving. $500-600 level seem a reasonable prediction to me, which is not bad at all - about 50% from where we are now.

well this is the beginning of the end of the crash..see we have not losing faith in bitcoin and the price will rise again and its happen.
And i think this is the beginning of the rise of the bitcoin from 400 to 700 usd.. starting this month until march..

There is no big crash, the price recovered to $415 and it is now stable around $400. So the panic is over.

This crash is nothing so we will see if this crash not is going to 600 dollars.
I am still seeing 400 dollars, but is nothing so well will see I am just wishing we will reach 600 dollars before the halving happens.

Well the crash was a big deal at least for some, what happen the news was just scary when the bitcoin got down.
I think for sure we won't see a big crash after this month, because I believe we will reach at 500 dollars again.

When the price reduced from $420 to $370, it is a big drop, or crash. But the bitcoin price has recovered. Any crash is for short period.

Recovered to 390 and falling... some recovery....

The only recovery possible is fixing what is broken!

I think in the future Bitcoin will be more valuable and people get to know about it.

New Year new chances right ? And Bitcoin will be more popular.

If you are a good trader you'll get best from every situation!
Pump Or dump it is just a game and if you follow you will lose.
If you think for yourself you can take profit!
Buy low, sell high!

There's no permanent crash in bitcoin. We went down from $420 few weeks ago, but right now we are recovering back to $400. Also this is not a big crash if you compare this with 2015 crash. This is only monthly pump and dump.

Easier said than done, but yes this is the simplest, yet the most difficult rule to follow.
Very important is also to be able to control your emotions, and not let them influence your trades.
Once you are able to master that, then buying low and selling high is easy.  ;D

@uki
I know what are you saying! I been many times in bad positions to buy at high, and long waiting to sell just to recover my money. After many loss you can learn how to control your emotions, and heart beats. It's not easy, but you must stay cool!
Many come here in hope they can become rich overnight! Very hard!
More likely they will lose and will go back to daily jobs and forget BTC adventure!

these ups and downs that we see nowadays will be nothing compared to what we will go through as soon as the block halving pump begins. that's when people will start to go nuts.

This is what we need to remember,  January always seems to be a bad month for Bitcoin but this year we have agar most other years don't,  and that's the halfing.  Panic selling will quickly turn to panic buying. 

Yeah agree with you. I remember that January last year is a bad month for bitcoin holder because it's price crash so quickly. I think January 2016 is better than last January because bitcoin price is steady with small pump and dump activity in the market, also there's no a big crash until today. Many people will buy bitcoin as many as they can in the middle of 2016 to welcome halving.

Don't worry it will be fine with the bitcoin, we have to be patient.
If we just wait for the right moment we can sell it will be fine.

I think there will be a crash but after the halving the bitcoin will raise to a high amount.

Actually, this forum is full of people that think they will get millionaires with 10BTC, already this year or the latest the next one.
I thought that the last bear (the one since Mt. Gox) has already cured that a bit, but the November pump showed how wrong I was.
BTC is a nice beast to ride, but you have to be patient and control your emotions.

The crash has began indeed but it will be no problem for the bitcoin at all.

The bitcoin is low at the moment so invest now its still possible.

We gonna make profit when the halving has been done, when the price will be raising.

its not the crash and bitcoin will never crash in my opinion, with bitcoin i always feel safe and i am not even thinking about the price changes and stuff like that

Wasn't that what people in December 2013 were saying?

The floor now is at $380, if this continues to go down we might see a floor of $350 by next week. Let's hope this is a prequel to another record-high.

Agreed. I definitely didn't expect this last one since it touched $400 two times and I thought we were past that. All bets are off right now but I agree that if it drops to $350 we can take that as a retrace before a jump to $450 and beyond. I have deep faith that we'll close the year at $500-600.

Sorry where was that floor again?

Seriously, it's weekend guys no need to panic, it's always been like this when weekend draw near, exchange rate dips and then climbs back again start of Monday when traders are more active. Other's even calls this day's as WEAKend. So relax.

People should study the periodical ups and downs of bitcoin, understand it, then speak; not speculate and create useless panic.

Actually it is the other way around.
People used to say that it is Mondays when the price is weak, because miners dump their coins on exchanges on Monday.

I think it's more than just weekend blues.  We've been in a general downtrend for a bit and we managed to hold our price for a little, but now the bottom fell out and we're correcting back to where the bear market wants us to be.  I've been calling this one for quite a while.

If we drop back down then it a perfect time to pick up some more cheap coins before the halfing. win Win for all. There are still a few reasons why 2016 is going to be a cracking year for bitcoin. openbazaar is one of them which i personally am looking forward to and of course the halfing that could make bitcoin go moonwards.

not a crash, you're being so naive it's not even funny, they are simply playing the range 350-400

this is an accumulation phase, in preparation for the next pump, mark my words

I also think some whales are accumulating the coins. They are preparing for the next big pump for the halving.

The support zone spans all the way between $400 and $350, and for now looks rock solid. Even with the latest attempts supported by Cryptsy and Mike's retirement funds we weren't able to get close to $350 at a reasonable volume. That means that there are keen buyers still waiting there, and we need some better arguments from bears to challenge it. Just to clarify my point, I see more of horizontal trend between $350-410 for another couple of months, or till we get better arguments that are not yet included in the price.

This thread is just wrong. So wrong. Bitcoin price has an upward trend now, and this trend will accelerate as it get's closer to the halving. Everybody is talking about buying, not selling!

Nah the bitcoin is not crashing it will be better soon.
Its just a matter of time the bitcoin will rise to a higher amount.
Don't listen to this topic title its not true, the bitcoin has a great future.

crash has begun bro, price slowly drop in last 2 days. lucky we get support when price touches $350 but looks this will continue for a week. hope crash will stop, soon!

I do feel the price will crash now. It's very much tempting to sell all my bitcoin and buy back in a month.
When the price is lower then 250 dollar ;)

Except if you sell you know the price will do the opposite and rise :)

The problem with markets is they tend to do exactly what you don't want them to.

Don't worry there will be always 'na sayers' in this forum, shouting we go down to $0, although the chart show something else. Same applies in the opposite direction. That is how the things are in here.
One thing however, the halving alone won't get us far, if there is no fundamental news to support the buying. If all what we have in store for 2016 is halving, then many can get disappointed how quickly we run out of steam.

highly doubt there's gonna be a dip below 250... even around 350 will be a good buy... the 360,70 support seems pretty strong though.

Bitcoin is just too volatile!

This is not the end of the bitcoin so bitcoin price crash is just a nature of bitcoin if you see the chart year ago it will the same..

Too volatile for trading, or too volatile for holding?

Traders tend to complain when the price is range-bound or flat-lines. They like volatility, because they can buy the dips and short the peaks.

Holders - like me, though I do trade a little - tend to focus much more on the fundamentals, and, since they're in it for the medium- to long-term, they're not worried about volatility in the short-term.

And if its volatility does worry you, remember:


-- Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, p.98. (https://ia801001.us.archive.org/9/items/JesseLivermoreReminiscencesOfAStockOperator/Jesse%20Livermore%20Reminiscences%20Of%20A%20Stock%20Operator.pdf)

The lovely kwukduck has spoken! How did i miss that  :'(
Fasten your seat boys, we will reach $500 in February  ;)

there is no crash, dont listen to him, i think the price is only fluctuating and it will start growing pretty soon

When the prica drops, people are calling it a crash and when it goes up, it is a pump. People who are screaming this really don't know what they are talking about.

I agree there is a lot of trolling here. But the price will 'crash'  back to 300 dollars eventually.
I really got not doubt this will happen, therefore I sold most of my coins already.

Is this also a trolling. I think even if the price go below $300, it will be a very brief period. It will recover soon.

I think the price will stay around $400 for some time. When we have the block size increase, the price will rise.

price looks stable at the moment and i think now is sideways trend. the price just dropped 2% in this week.

It's pretty stable once the drop a few weeks back settled itself. Still up a lot from 6 months ago

Probably most of them dont even have the bags to hold nor to sell.

I could careless what the price is as long as I have some bitcoin to earn and exchange it for fiat

I think bitcoin will actually rise, much like gold. Take a look at the gold price and the stock markets right now. Gold made a $50 jump in a day, when the markets plummeted! Interesting...

gold will always rise when stock markets crash, i am looking forward as to the what the bitcoin price will be seeing all the crash yesterday. i am still trying to understand the price variables ,what i am aware is that few groups hold the key to move the market up,which is not good for an investment.

Bitcoin will rise for sure, its fake dump so losers sell their coins for cheap and whales buy them before they pump it

Another one and a half month passed, has the crash begun??

yeah, it didn't crash, it just deep few dollars and settles at its price now, it wasn't called a crash, just a dip brought by dramas that happens last month..  :)

I think there is no dump recently. The price fluctuate around $390 for some time. Today, the price is over $400. It is still normal.

There shouldn't be any real crash until the next pump ends. That should be somewhere late spring, as we will be close enough to the halving to have effect on the price action.
Until then, I don't expect the price to move too much, thus I don't expect the crash either.

The price seams to be going up currently, but still i expect to see a lot of flash crashes this year, all leading to the date of block halving, and
then the magic will happen once again, and we will see prices of over 500$ per coin for sure. All this p&d show is just to shake off weak hands.

The halving effect should double the price. But the actual price rise depends on many other factors such as adoption.

The price rise from $380 to $450 is not a pump and the drop is not a dump. That is just reaction to the block size debate.