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Title: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 04:48:38 AM HERE ARE DA POSTS , that are being deleted by the Fly Propaganda Machine.
Feel Free to enter ya own without worry of Vegas deleting them. Also if Ya want to Quote Vegas & Team Fly here and then post your Reply to their statements , all the better so we can have Freedom of Speech about this moral travesty called Flycoin. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 04:51:27 AM Vegas Dear Soul,
what ya fail to realize is ya was caught in a Lie and ya only admitted to it after being called on it. What it proves is Ya will justify any change at any time, So No one can trust Ya won't change the rules whenever ya feel like it. Ya most recent Fly Post is just another example, How MASTER Vegas must tell da slaves what they may or may not do. Guys Ive really been looking over everything closely. Its my job. If I dont, then Ive failed you. So when I look at the rich list, if Im looking at it correctly, the transactions that appear as red are "stake to other" or "stake to exchange". Now this is why the price is getting pounded. The top 7 holders have sold NOTHING. I wont mention any names, but MANY/MOST people below top 7 are just staking and selling off everything they can. I dont want you to misunderstand me. I DID say its ok to sell to the exchanges for a profit. But I want you to notice the damage your causing. The price will NEVER rise, because your dumping every stake into the exchange, many of you. Then, you look to me to fix it. This time I cannot fix it. This is up to you guys. Its like this, when you dump on the exchange, then price goes lower. Guess what happens when you do the opposite???? The price rises. So first, Im going to ask that everyone stake to themselves for a while. Youll see the exchange will be starved of fly, and demand will increase. This is NOT a rule. But, I WILL reward those that do not stake to exchange. The longer we starve the exchange the higher the price will be. I would say stake to yourself for a month or two, if you can. Then stake to exchange maybe one week out of 5-6 weeks. Youll get higher prices if EVERYONE does this. Again, its not frowned on if you want to sell all of your stakes, but when most people are selling to the exchange, you are drowning us all. Lets work as a team, and hold off for a month or two and starve the exchange, so prices will rise again. If everyone cooperates, when you do sell in 2 months, youll get DOUBLE the price. Can we do that? Lets see how this goes, if its still a major problem in a month then I am forced to make changes. That might be lowering POS rate to 25% and extending min stake age to 9-11 days. Then raise superfly to 100% pos, and exclude you, as rewards are for those "supporting fly" and dumping every single coin you can is not supporting fly, its killing it slow. Its not something I want to do, but its my duty to protect this coin. Its a long term coin. There will be an gentle exit strategy in 1.5 - 2 years. So dont be in such a hurry. You know who you are, and I do too. Vegas This was always the predictable results of your Dictator style control and taxing a coin's interest and transactions. Ya don't understand anything about economics, that why Ya are gettin ready to change da Rules AGAIN!!! Funny da Fly coin , that is made dump proof is being Dumped!!! ;D AG18 By the way, the reason this info is pertinent to XDE , is Ya Lied that FLY is Doing Well, (When ya own words show Fly is in da dumper) so they should swap out their coin fer your Leadership. Ya Leadership is more akin to slavery for ya followers. Fact Ya will change the rules on them and give yer self more interest when ya get da chance. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 05:45:14 AM Question for Fly Users.
How Many want Vegas to quit changing the rules and stealing ya interest. Coin could be worth 1 Million Bucks , but if Master Vegas won't let ya sell, what good is da coin to ya? Think on it before he blocks ya from selling even 1 Fly without his approval. He is kind of like a Crypto version of Lord of the Flies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies Just Sayin. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: crunck on January 11, 2016, 07:11:09 AM Hmmm an interesting thread you have here :-\
I'm a touch confused though, is this a bash at Vegas, Fly, or the proposed XDE take over ( of which I have no part or any XDE I may add ) ? I presume it's the latter as that is where I first saw you muting your concerns over the takeover, if this is the case then should this thread title not read something like "Moderated XDE takeover talk" or similar ? I don't see why you need to create a platform to bash FLY as you are clearly not invested, where as I am, and this thread is damaging my investment, and yes I read all about the inflated fee's before getting involved, and also no I don't all ways agree with what Vegas is doing but that is why forums exist, to have an open discussion about things, for example I don't like what has just been proposed for the new teared level of rewards for the 100 FLY per week going up to 500 FLY per week, and I shall be raising my concerns later when I get home from work. I have no problems with you or anyone else having a go but have ago about the correct thing in the correct place, don't just bash a guy's other interests because something else dosn't suit you, you have an issue with the XDE takeover, as many people to do, and I can see why to a certain extent then keep it there. Peace Out and please don't delete this it took me ages to write and its 7am :o Crunck Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 07:28:59 AM Hmmm an interesting thread you have here :-\ I'm a touch confused though, is this a bash at Vegas, Fly, or the proposed XDE take over ( of which I have no part or any XDE I may add ) ? I presume it's the latter as that is where I first saw you muting your concerns over the takeover, if this is the case then should this thread title not read something like "Moderated XDE takeover talk" or similar ? I don't see why you need to create a platform to bash FLY as you are clearly not invested, where as I am, and this thread is damaging my investment, and yes I read all about the inflated fee's before getting involved, and also no I don't all ways agree with what Vegas is doing but that is why forums exist, to have an open discussion about things, for example I don't like what has just been proposed for the new teared level of rewards for the 100 FLY per week going up to 500 FLY per week, and I shall be raising my concerns later when I get home from work. I have no problems with you or anyone else having a go but have ago about the correct thing in the correct place, don't just bash a guy's other interests because something else dosn't suit you, you have an issue with the XDE takeover, as many people to do, and I can see why to a certain extent then keep it there. Peace Out and please don't delete this it took me ages to write and its 7am :o Crunck No Bash, just a release valve where people censored by Vegas and Team Fly can express their selves , a separate forum was the only way to overcome their draconian censorship. Ya Investment is being damaged due to bad leadership and a greedy takeover scheme of another coin, tryin to bring in capital to support Fly, when da majority of Fly users want to sell all of their interest. Human Nature has been ignored and Vegas attempts at controlin others actions thru intimidation is failing as it always has and always will. If Ya want to save dis coin, then da Fly community needs to rise up and say NO to the Taxation without representation , as Vegas acts like King without allowing any dissent. Plus Ya don't even really have enough coins to fully secure Ya Network, tech issue being ignored by 3 devs, cause their yes men. Now if ya investing in Flycoin, would that not be useful info? AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: xhoneyael on January 11, 2016, 08:37:56 AM Fly is one of the proof of highly manipulated coin
you cant sell your coin there no place to use it what will be the reason to buy it i ask vegas before in trolbox in yobit ? if he really a bussiness man what will be the target market of fly? what will be our reason to buy fly ? what demand we can expect in fly? what he said is fly is not plan to go mainstream this is only plan for private group user can only sell pos reward example if you hold fly you will just wait for some people to buy that coin for you to break even and those people need also to wait for more what if there will no people left interested to invest ? of course vegasguy will change the rules does it not look like a ponzi that someday no one will be interested and you will be left out a coin without worth something no one will buy it and no place to use i dont think there are infinite idiot who will keep buying it and now its look like it will go down now because their private group cant buy it and no one is interested anymore and looking for more victim using other coin communitty he said fly is to fight those scammer but the truth is he is just an ros investor who buy in high price and been left out when the price go down and swap the ros to fly and keep dumping ros while on swap to get lot of bitcoin to manipulate the price its funny right? but its the truth hope everyone is aware on it Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:49:13 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote may I ask which address you will use as burn-address for the swaped-XDE-coins? Quote We are deciding weather to create a Platinum community wallet that will reward those that support XDE2 or burn unclaimed coins. I know you want to know which way to go. Thats why you want the burn address to see which way you should go. You need to go with your heart man. My advice to you is hold your xde, and watch. It will be VERY obvious which way to go. If we create a community wallet , team members are exempt from getting rewards from it. It will be handouts to the community for supporting XDE2. Frankly I dont favor one way or another as I dont benefit either way. I need to hear intelligent feedback on this. This would be a way to balance the community and the team members. I didn't mean the address for burning unclaimed XDEII, I mean the address for the XDE coins, people will send you for the swap.Vegas You said you want make it clear and transparent, then do it. He didn't answer. Just deleting posts. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:50:23 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote seriously, what are you doing here? stop posting fancy images. who what's to see that? that's no feature. that's just a picture and nothing worth! why do you guy's think your team should get better staking wallets than any1 else? You did nothing to XDE and only what to profit. compile some wallets with fancy images in it is nothing WORTH multiple BTCs. what will happen with the unclaimed coins and 26.5% premined XDE II coins? They will be divided among 5 team members. If everyone claims, we get about 53 coins each AFTER its inflated 7x like everyone else. Who allowed you to do this? Please keep in mind we are not just anybody. We are the best at what we do. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING US?what did you do in the past to claim "the best at what we do"???? What are your skills exactly? and I don't mean your absolutely useless graphic-designer skills. Our team of 5 will be working on this daily. We dont work cheap, but we are the best at what we do, and give 100% to our investors every single day. you want to legitimate your earnings inside your hyper-wallets with working hard. deliver something first. you claim here that much of this coin and did nothing yet.XDE may be dead and you are trying to revive it. But this here is just ridiculous! You are trying to get 36 BTC for this wallets. You want to sell those expensive wallets with better staking with absolute no eligibility. And like that's not enough, any coin which did not swap will wander to you and your "team of 5 ppl", just for the sake to politeness, convenienve, or WHAT?? srsly, I want some answers here. And don't come with "We deserve it, we work 100% every day". Quote and again: I'm not crying. I hold a bit more XDE than vegasguy, so I think I should be allowed to ask those questions and get some real answers. crying is easier than working! why do you deserve that much BTC?? what are you working on? compiling some wallets with different staking rates must be really difficult to claim over 36 BTC for it! I encourage everyone to ask intelligent questions. Thank you. Lets make sure everyone is clear what is happening. I did. I can't believe on of your team wrote "crying is easier than working!". Thanks Vegas Is that how you should treat your community or investors? Do you think you will sell even 1 wallet this way? Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Quote from: OP These will be the team that will run XDE II with intensity and dedication like youve never seen. so, metamorphin looks really skilled in PR. looks like a good team you have. Looks like you deserve more than 36 BTC and a wallet with minimum 50%-better staking than anyone else.Vegasguy (Team leader,OP,financial analyst) Woody (Highly skilled financial Analyst) Keesdewit (Lead dev) 39Otrebla (works side by side with Keesdewit as dev) Metamorphin (Highly skilled in business and PR, and support) come on.... really?? Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:51:52 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote Quote why do you guy's think your team should get better staking wallets than any1 else? Ok.. isnt it so common for everyone to go around claiming "we are the best", or "I am the king" blah blah blah. Clearly youve done no research on me or my team. Point blank: We have ALL proven it. I am the creator of FLY coin. FLY coin in 90 days has a market cap of 663 BTC and has passed price per coin of every single altcoin ever made, even dash and litecoin. FACT. You asked "who the hell am I". I , sir am a millionaire many times over. I personally hold millions of dollars in real estate all paid for free and clear. I own many businesses in Las Vegas that are shops, not bullshit. Real businesses that have done BIG things I created 20 years ago and are stronger than ever. THAT sir is who I am. I am an expert on business, money , economy, and Crypto. I retired at 39. I never have to work again. I studied crypto for 10-12 hours at day 5-7 days a week for over 1.5 years, traded every coin, traded on every exchange, built many massive farms for clients, and more. Did you miss my 3000+ posts? Being that active in 1.5 years , I have learned an enormous amount in crypto. THAT makes me an expert. So, now people will twist this, and call me egotistical, and that I brag. BUT remember this : YOU asked!!!! I have NEVER done that, and never will. My integrity, is among the top in Crypto. That was not what I was asking for. You like to talk very much. we have seen that now over several posts in this and the old thread. What did you deliver to XDE already? Fancy images do not count. Stop telling your lovely stories from FLY. nobody wanna hear that here. We have already done enormous work. We have done so much so fast its insane. The blockchain is finished, The OP is finished, the graphics are finished, the wallet is finished (save graphics), and we are already talking about new ideas to bring even more value to XDE2. We are just DAYS into this project, and have done more in a few days than most devs do in 2 years. And because of that you want to earn more than most devs to in 2 years - for your work you have done in not even a full month?I AM THE MOST GENEROUS PERSON EVER TO WALK THE FACE OF CRYPTO. PROVE ME WRONG! No. You want to sell us something. I don't have to prove that you are wrong. It works the other way round...Acts of generosity and kindness. You have my FULL permission to contact ANYONE in these messages and verify its authenticity: I totally do not care. Other coin. Does not matter here. This does not legitimate your salary here. you most-generous-person-ever!THE DAY I ANNOUNCED THE TAKEOVER... Proof the community knows me and knows I do the right thing. lol, look at the volume. all fake. for someone who claims to "studied crypto for 10-12 hours at day 5-7 days a week for over 1.5 years" this picture is a very very weak reasoning.http://www.bitcoinlasvegas.net/files/does-the-public-approve.jpg Thats very unfair. Just as I said in my post, now you get to call me egotistical. HE ASKED WHAT MY QUALIFICATIONS ARE, AND I ANSWERED. No. Seriously, what the f*** are you talking about??? I DID NOT ASK WHAT YOUR QUALIFICATIONS ARE. I ASK YOU WHY DO YOU THINK YOU DESERVE THAT? that is absolutely not the same. again, here is my question. answer that. why do you guy's think your team should get better staking wallets than any1 else? Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:52:56 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote I'm trying to deliver more productive inputs as I posted earlier. I hope you can now better understand my considerations. topic of this post: why I believe better-staking-wallets are bad. So let's assume there are three people and the dev vegasguy, each holding 15 XDE before the swap, they get 105 XDEII after the swap. vegasguy gets a Platinum wallet, person1 a gold wallet, person 2 a silver wallet, and person 2 as poor guy uses the standard wallet. each start with the same amount of XDE. do show how drastically the imbalance of the different wallets increase very soon, here a short comparison how they each will perform with staking within 2 years. All numbers are used from the image metamorphin posted recently, which can also be found in the first post (instead of 3 XDE, each started with 15 XDE before the swap). http://s9.postimg.org/40vulzt2n/xdeswap01asdf.jpg We can see, that Platinum holds over 2083 XDE after one year, whereas a standard user with they same start amount of XDE only holds 771 XDE. Platinum gets 270% of what a standard user gets. We can also see, that after two year this gets even worse, when Platinum holds 41333 XDE, whereas Standard user holds ridiculously 5670 XDE. Conclusion, to stay competitive as a stakeholder, you have to buy a premium-wallet from dev. To stake as good as the dev, you have to 1. spend over 2500 USD worth of bitcoins to get a platinum wallet. 2. be quick enough, there are only 2 of them available for public. http://s9.postimg.org/nu7yep6gf/xdeswap02asdf.jpg I made the spreadsheet above where all shareholders have the same amount of starting XDE. As everyone ones, this won't be reality. There won't be many people which holds more than 10 XDE, for them it gets even worse, the longer the whole staking goes on. Their coins lose value, because they loose shares. The only ones who got more and even better shares are those, who uses Platinum wallets with a high start amount of XDE. I not only think, this is absolutely greedy. I think this isn't healthy for a coin. It won't work for long. What can we do to fix this? Total span from 200% to 300% is too much. I would recommend to forget the whole idea of different-staking-wallets, but if not, If you want to stay with this whole different-staking-wallets-idea, you have to reduce the size of the span between lower-staking-wallet and highest-staking wallets drastically. Just a proposal: Standard wallet: 200%, Silver wallet 205%, Gold wallet 212%, Platinum wallet 220%. Another thing: the restriction of only total 2 platinum wallets (for public), only 5 gold, only 10 silver should be removed. Make your calculations, even that's more than enough. As price for the wallets, another proposal: standard wallet: free, silver wallet 0.1 BTC, gold wallet 0.25 BTC, platinum wallet 0.4 BTC. I hope you no longer see me as a troll and consider my inputs. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:54:43 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote Actual holders have enormous power and influence. So I am good with burning unclaimed coins. As you are a major holder you can easily influence me. So I need to update and restructure it. So the way it will look is 5 team members will get 53 XDE II coins each from the premine, and each get Platinum wallets. All unclaimed XDE2 shall be burned, ALL OLD XDE received shall be burned. It would be fair to give top 5 holders will get 1/2 price off any wallet. So does this sound more fair? Updated this info on OP to make official. Vegas It's a start. But you have to change a few more things to get this thing running good. - Delay start of swap. So many unsolved questions / problems. no ready in 2 days. - Consider changing wallet prices. Nobody pays 6 BTC for a wallet address. Or is there someone here who will buy that? - Consider reducing wallet staking gap from 200-300 to 200-220 or even remove them (one wallet - same staking). -------- Quote Also 200%-300% is where it starts. There is no way it will end this way, and if XDE2 can sustain 200%-300% for 3 years without the impact of inflation, we will all have millions of dollars even from 1 coin and a standard wallet. But that WONT happen, it would defeat the laws of inflation, and the laws of inflation are universal and unbeaten. We started it high so we can cut the pos% down multiple times, and still end up with a firm attractive pos rate. Also all wallets cut POS % evenly. So likely in 2-3 years wallets will be cut in 1/2 % pos at least 3-4 times as needed. So we DONT get to enjoy 300% , for 3 years. Maybe 6 months, and if we are VERY lucky , possibly 1 year. When it cuts once, its now down to 150% per year, then it cuts again to 75% a year. We WILL cut the POS% , WE HAVE TO , or inflation will kick in and then the coin will die a slow death, and that will NOT happen. I will be closely monitoring everything everyday. Not so greedy now is it? this does not change anything.. Vegas http://s29.postimg.org/4nbqmt46f/xde03asdf.jpg it's the ratio between the different wallet that matters, not how high it actually is. 300% (platinum) is 1.2 times better than 250% (gold). but 150% (platinum reduced) is still 1.2 times better than 125% (gold reduced) 75% (platinum reduced twice) is still 1.2 times better than 62.25% (gold reduced twice) I'm sorry, but your argument is invalid. Overall reducing does not solve this problem, it will only change the overall inflation rate, but this is another topic. Quote I promise you if you post intelligently I will respond every time. The is one major issue with this. We will get around 53 coins each after its inflated 7 times from the premine. To get to 105 post swap, every member of my team has to hold over 7 coins, and I can tell you for a fact they dont. In fact to the best of my knowledge I am the ONLY one that bought coins. So if you want to calculate the 53 that we will certainly get 5.3% of the money supply, then please by all means post your chart. But your chart is not realistic as its not even close to what will happen. Thank you, and "keep it real" Vegas ok. you may be right for now, but... topic of this post: why I believe not-used-coins in the swap should be burned Quote from: SWAP in OP A total of 1000 coins will be premined. Any unclaimed coins will be divided evenly among the 5 team members. If everyone turns in their coins, each team member will get 53 coins now with that in mind we play the swap-game in our mind a bit further: I hold 15 old XDE coins. I won't participate in the swap. so 15*7 = 105 coins are not used in the swap and they will move to your team. divide it equally among each of your 5 member, and each will get additionally 21 new coins each. And from the activity of other shareholders in this thread I believe it will be more than 15 old XDE coins that won't participate in the swap. those additional XDE's bring total unbalance in the whole system. keep in mind that you not only get more XDEII, you will get better staking with them! Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:55:47 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote One wallet - same staking is not acceptable, because we have to be paid and dont work for peanuts! (its my personal opinion! ) and why don't you just get your payments through regular payments? I understand you want to be rewarded for your work, but a better staking wallet is an exponential reward as a explained in posts before, and this is for me not acceptable. Changing wallet prices: Vegas already did an offer...the top 5 holder pay 1/2 prices. You for sure a top 5 holder, so u benefit extremely! I don't to this for my personal benefits. I don't care if I only pay 1/2 price, when others have to pay too much. Fairness for all, not only top holder.Why only top-holder? With that you will increase the gap between high- and low-roller.. why do you want that? Delay start of swap: PM vegas ur emailaddy, so we can discuss the "unsolved questions and problems" in a slack. Uki is also there will do it, but I don't really understand why we can't do that here in public.edit: pm sent. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 11, 2016, 09:57:24 AM A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. [..]
The following posts of mine were deleted by vegasguy. -------------------------------------------- Quote how many did already swap? ------Quote Ok guys, I'm made my descision. I won't take part in the swap. I will stay on the only one true XDE. ----I posted enough here in this thread that Dev should now know that (and what exactly) are several huge problems with this swap. You loosing over 16 XDE from me. You loosing over 10 XDE from marcetin. You loose over 1,8 XDE from Dromedar. Over 20% of the Old XDE coins won't take the swap. Anyone else who don't will participate in the swap? Please PM me, I trying to revive the old-xde-community. http://s18.postimg.org/6djdiwvzd/xdewallet01asdf.jpg (http://s18.postimg.org/6djdiwvzd/xdewallet01asdf.jpg) vegasguy asked, what I would change on the whole swap...I wrote Quote I won't repeat again. I did it already several times. after that, he deleted most of my posts, nice work ::)Read the last 4 pages of this thread and you should know the major concerns we have. There are also some proposals for adjustments. most relevant posts now posted here. Don't like my posts deleted. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: crunck on January 11, 2016, 05:21:16 PM Hmmm an interesting thread you have here :-\ I'm a touch confused though, is this a bash at Vegas, Fly, or the proposed XDE take over ( of which I have no part or any XDE I may add ) ? I presume it's the latter as that is where I first saw you muting your concerns over the takeover, if this is the case then should this thread title not read something like "Moderated XDE takeover talk" or similar ? I don't see why you need to create a platform to bash FLY as you are clearly not invested, where as I am, and this thread is damaging my investment, and yes I read all about the inflated fee's before getting involved, and also no I don't all ways agree with what Vegas is doing but that is why forums exist, to have an open discussion about things, for example I don't like what has just been proposed for the new teared level of rewards for the 100 FLY per week going up to 500 FLY per week, and I shall be raising my concerns later when I get home from work. I have no problems with you or anyone else having a go but have ago about the correct thing in the correct place, don't just bash a guy's other interests because something else dosn't suit you, you have an issue with the XDE takeover, as many people to do, and I can see why to a certain extent then keep it there. Peace Out and please don't delete this it took me ages to write and its 7am :o Crunck No Bash, just a release valve where people censored by Vegas and Team Fly can express their selves , a separate forum was the only way to overcome their draconian censorship. Ya Investment is being damaged due to bad leadership and a greedy takeover scheme of another coin, tryin to bring in capital to support Fly, when da majority of Fly users want to sell all of their interest. Human Nature has been ignored and Vegas attempts at controlin others actions thru intimidation is failing as it always has and always will. If Ya want to save dis coin, then da Fly community needs to rise up and say NO to the Taxation without representation , as Vegas acts like King without allowing any dissent. Plus Ya don't even really have enough coins to fully secure Ya Network, tech issue being ignored by 3 devs, cause their yes men. Now if ya investing in Flycoin, would that not be useful info? AG18 First off the reply from you quoted above I am sure would not have got deleted on the original FLY thread, its both informative and in no way threatening but unfortunately due to people going over board and from what I have read "seriously over board" the FLY people had no choice as i see it other than to create a moderated forum. I shall look into the secure network you have mentioned as I was un-aware of this. I would also like to point out that other than xhoneyael's reply every other one bellow mine ( at the time of writing this ) is about XDE, so I would again ask you to think about altering the title to something similar to what I suggested earlier. As said earlier I know you don't mean to, or at least hope you don't mean to damage mine or other innocent crypto users FLY investments but alas you are.. Please if this is all about XDE make it XDE related. Cheers Crunck Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 11, 2016, 05:32:15 PM I can't put my finger on exactly why I decided not to get involved with FLY further, but some of the posts in this thread are relevant. It is rather strange that one can never do any real trading with this coin as the wallet is constantly in maintenace mode, or some other form of hidden manipulation is at play. I don't see a reflection of true value in the price.
I'm not generally a fan of Proof-Of-Stake coins anyway ... I started investigating FLY after someone said they needed developers. I only work with PoW coins because I believe that PoS is fundamentally flawed. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 08:15:17 PM I can't put my finger on exactly why I decided not to get involved with FLY further, but some of the posts in this thread are relevant. It is rather strange that one can never do any real trading with this coin as the wallet is constantly in maintenace mode, or some other form of hidden manipulation is at play. I don't see a reflection of true value in the price. I'm not generally a fan of Proof-Of-Stake coins anyway ... I started investigating FLY after someone said they needed developers. I only work with PoW coins because I believe that PoS is fundamentally flawed. in my View, PoS coins with a Large Number of Coins can be more secure than da PoW coins. But PoS coins tryin to be rare , have a limited number of coins and can not secure their network, also a problem for da nothin to stake issue , causes long gaps between finding new blocks. Fly has exhibited da nothin to stake issue , cause their are not enough coins available to stake consistently, IE. Longer Block Times than speced. Others have stated that , PoS coins that allow staking of the same batch of coins in less than 10 days favor da rich, and are unfair to da poor. would agree with dat line. PoW failure comes from da design, economics make it unfeasible fer everyone to be involved , which gives da rich elite control and ya got another slave system in place and only da elite really profit from it. PoS with at least 10 days between stakes and a block time of a minute or faster keep dat rich and da poor on level playin grounds. With PoS if anyone get 51%, simple solution wait 100 blocks or so and they used up their 51 % and have da wait for it da recharge. With PoW if anyone gets 51% asics power they own da coin the entire duration, until new manufacturing and delivery can catch up, could be months or more if at all. That is why PoS is a better survival option than PoW. And from an earlier question i did own fly, sold off da lot, when interest Tax was added. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 09:04:05 PM Hmmm an interesting thread you have here :-\ I'm a touch confused though, is this a bash at Vegas, Fly, or the proposed XDE take over ( of which I have no part or any XDE I may add ) ? I presume it's the latter as that is where I first saw you muting your concerns over the takeover, if this is the case then should this thread title not read something like "Moderated XDE takeover talk" or similar ? I don't see why you need to create a platform to bash FLY as you are clearly not invested, where as I am, and this thread is damaging my investment, and yes I read all about the inflated fee's before getting involved, and also no I don't all ways agree with what Vegas is doing but that is why forums exist, to have an open discussion about things, for example I don't like what has just been proposed for the new teared level of rewards for the 100 FLY per week going up to 500 FLY per week, and I shall be raising my concerns later when I get home from work. I have no problems with you or anyone else having a go but have ago about the correct thing in the correct place, don't just bash a guy's other interests because something else dosn't suit you, you have an issue with the XDE takeover, as many people to do, and I can see why to a certain extent then keep it there. Peace Out and please don't delete this it took me ages to write and its 7am :o Crunck No Bash, just a release valve where people censored by Vegas and Team Fly can express their selves , a separate forum was the only way to overcome their draconian censorship. Ya Investment is being damaged due to bad leadership and a greedy takeover scheme of another coin, tryin to bring in capital to support Fly, when da majority of Fly users want to sell all of their interest. Human Nature has been ignored and Vegas attempts at controlin others actions thru intimidation is failing as it always has and always will. If Ya want to save dis coin, then da Fly community needs to rise up and say NO to the Taxation without representation , as Vegas acts like King without allowing any dissent. Plus Ya don't even really have enough coins to fully secure Ya Network, tech issue being ignored by 3 devs, cause their yes men. Now if ya investing in Flycoin, would that not be useful info? AG18 First off the reply from you quoted above I am sure would not have got deleted on the original FLY thread, its both informative and in no way threatening but unfortunately due to people going over board and from what I have read "seriously over board" the FLY people had no choice as i see it other than to create a moderated forum. As said earlier I know you don't mean to, or at least hope you don't mean to damage mine or other innocent crypto users FLY investments but alas you are.. Please if this is all about XDE make it XDE related. Cheers Crunck If da name Argon18 was attached to a post it was deleted in moderated Fly & XDEII without fail. No intent to cause anyone financial loss, Vegas is causin dat all by himself. Fly community needs to rise up and stop da stupid taxation of their property, dis forum gives them the option to speak freely, which they have no where else. They can post whatever they would to like see changed here or post disagreements without them being deleted. Dis Forum is about Flycoin , also XDE since Fly is attempting a hostile takeover, and the current Mental Status of Vegas , since he basically controls Fly with an iron fist. Dis is the info , investors need ta know. If Ya believed the sun rise and set in Vegas butt, then follow him off da cliff, it yer choice. But if reason can keep ya from losing all of ya funds because ya following a narcissist , then hey that is ya choice too. Good Luck whichever ya decide. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 09:40:22 PM Just throwing this out there as another option to consider. I would like to see FLY Team (us - since I am part of Team FLY) to do more for the little guy... to encouage them to start buying FLY and continue. 100 FLY is a long way off for most but, my suggestion would be someone achieves 10 FLY and gets a 1 FLY Bonus, reach 25 get a 2 Fly Bonus, reach 50 FLY get a 3 coin Bonus at 100 FLY get a 5 Fly Bonus and now qualified for SuperFly wallet rewards. Any thoughts? Here a thought Quit Taxin the interest and lower da transactions tax, dat would help the little guy more than ya Selective Welfare to da slaves. Also dat transaction fee should only go to da Node that processes it, not to a wallet controlled by 1 guy. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 09:55:52 PM To save Flycoin ,
Dis is what has to happen. 1. No more taxes on interest 2. Lower transaction fee , and da fee goes to the node that processes it. dis give financial incentive to keep a fly wallet running 24x7 3. No more coin wide decisions made by Vegas alone, whole community has to have input , and a way to vote , and da community vote is da controllin factor. 4. Tryin to make a dump proof coin is stupid, it ignores the fundamental principles of economics, there has to be a rise and fall fluctuations in price to have movement. Old Sayin, Da cure to Low Prices is Low Prices. What other changes does anyone else think need ta be made? AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 11, 2016, 10:39:27 PM All of your voices count. This is for you guys. The team gets nothing from Superfly. So you guys can shape it how you want. We just implement it. Vegas Operation: Venus FLY Trap because we love our FLY Observation: we can put buy pressure on the FLY market by selling our FLY ;D i know not everyone has to, but i need to sell b4 i buy. So the idea is Sell, sell, sell, but be sure to return a greater number of either buy orders (or amounts). if you do this every time you visit the exchange then you'll be #1 bringing home some fly all the time #2 building a continuosly existing/growing buy pressure on the currency. (+ increasing activity/volume) #3 (eventually) able to extract substantial amounts of your local currency ... without reducing your income this in response @ requesting cessation of sav-send to 'topia Innocent enough statement Observation: we can put buy pressure on the FLY market by selling our FLY ;D Problems with dis idea: Say all of ya sell Fly at $5 , ya just created a sell wall that blocks upward growth, Someone is dumb enough to buy at $5 and ya immediately create a Buy Wall at $2 , Well ya just created downward pressure on price in dat market, yer price has to decrease by over half before ya can buy. And ya already have da Day Traders doin this to cash out for fiat without ever movin fly from da exchange or payin any fees. Here is the thing that is crushin Fly, People would prefer Fiat to Fly, until they givin a real reason ta prefer Fly to Fiat, it's price falls. Day Traders will crush ya at dat market and there is no reason to buy ya coin cause of its current taxation system. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 12, 2016, 12:09:27 AM Ya Know, the so called FLY AntiDump Taxation system is a complete failure
as ya price and trading volume shows. Why Not get rid of all of da taxation schemes and da superfly , its doin nothin but hurtin dis coin. AG18 The above was posted in da other Fly Forum , time before deleted 60 seconds, if there coin worked as well as their censoring , then all Fly would be worth something. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 12, 2016, 12:33:15 AM Ya Know, the so called FLY AntiDump Taxation system is a complete failure as ya price and trading volume shows. Why Not get rid of all of da taxation schemes and da superfly , its doin nothin but hurtin dis coin. AG18 The above was posted in da other Fly Forum , time before deleted 60 seconds, if there coin worked as well as their censoring , then all Fly would be worth something. So why not take the experiment a little further and simply modify the code a pinch and initiate a sybil attack or somesuch? I am of the mindset if that it can be broken so easily, then surely it must be exposed. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 12, 2016, 12:47:47 AM So why not take the experiment a little further and simply modify the code a pinch and initiate a sybil attack or somesuch? I am of the mindset if that it can be broken so easily, then surely it must be exposed. Ya know, their coin network & exchange has been down so much, da hackers need a workin network ta hack. ;D hashProofOfStake <= [Coin-age] x [Target] [Coin-age] = [amount of coins] x [days in stake] By them keeping the amount of coins rare, they weakin the entire network security. cynicSOB could take em out , if he had a mind too. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: anticlimax on January 12, 2016, 02:23:25 AM Well youve just proved how ethical I am. See, trolls spend days and days to dig up the worst most horrible facts they can produce, and the worst Ive ever read about me is, I stated FLY would be my one and only coin, and I broke my word on that. Ok fine. It also proves at the same time that , that is as bad as it gets, and if that is the worst ive ever done, you should feel very safe with me. If I had truly done terrible things , and a rotten scammer, it would be all over the forum, and its not, because I havent. Ive been upfront about XDEII, trouble started when you didnt think my team was worth being paid 1 XDE2 a day. LOL. Seriously? Vegas Because you have unflattering posts deleted like a fucking chicken shit bastard. Billo, your post was deleted by a MOD, not me. That was on my unmoderated thread, where I could not delete ANY posts. Im a lot of things, but Im no chicken shit, and will face anyone , anytime, and have done many times over, even IRL too. Im the only one brave enough to finally stand up and say "Devs DONT work for free", and made a whole lot of people really mad. Ive made the first coin that is not completely decentralized, and that really ticked a lot of people off. So a chicken shit im not. If I was I would have shut down a long long time ago. Ive got THE most controversial coin out, and im doing just fine. I dont care if you hate me or my coin. I went into this knowing full well, my coin was going to be extremely controversial. Im not going anywhere. You still pissed about that stupid shit between me and your buddy there? Really? Im over that man, you should be too. Thats done. Its forgotten, or is it? It doesnt have to be. Vegas lol. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet+tough+guy http://oi67.tinypic.com/20it9qc.jpg Looks like Vegas is makin threats toward Bill . :P Just Sayin, AG18 Vegas has lost all credibility in my mind. What a "business man". Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 13, 2016, 06:43:09 AM First off @Pokeytex,
Dude sorry about ya coins. Next rebuttal to Vegas Comments, Ya ever da opportunist. Hey Pokey 1970 FLY went to superfly. I think we need to rollback the chain. We need to talk with Kees. Also like Ive told everyone, you NEED to get an antikeylogger. Cryptopia needs to freeze that wallet. You need premium https://www.qfxsoftware.com/download.htm Vegas Now many that are not holding fly or think fly is too controlled. I want to point out some facts. User Pokey had all his coins stolen from many different wallets from a trojan built into a mining software program. He will get back ALL of FLY his coins. He probably wont be getting back any of the other many coins that were stolen, and it was a LOT of money. So to those of you that dislike fly because it has some centralization, it is the EXACT reason this user will get all of his FLY coins back, and probably nothing else. \ Soon we will be adding Google Authenticator to the wallet. This will be a massive project. BUT we need it, badly. We are still a few months out. First we have to make sure everyone has free withdrawals on Cryptopia. Speaking of Cryptopia , I notified the owner of Cryptopia and he immediately paused trading on FLY. So for those of you that have looked at FLY and might think its too controlled or too centralized or we are on the wrong exchange. Here is absolute proof , that I got it all right. My ways are very abnormal and many people dont understand until something like this happens, and then it all becomes clear. Bottom line: There is no safer place to put your money. For the rest of you, you NEED to buy keyscrambler premium $44 this confuses keyloggers and is specifically for crypto wallets https://www.qfxsoftware.com/download.htm Vegas Geez , where ta begin . Bad guy stole ~4100 Fly coins from Pokeytex , when he send em to da exchange , SuperFly Stole 1970 flycoins from da transmission. Cryptopia guys were ACES and paused da market, nothin but respect for those guys. Now Vegas ta be a nice guy and for da good PR (which he needs badly), would give da 1970 fly back ta Pokeytex. Now Vegas explains why dis is da safest coin ever , ??? What he seems ta forget is da Superfly steals Fly from Transactions and interest from everyone every time. :P Say ya got medical bills out of da blue and ya had to sell 4100 fly to pay for yer family treatment. Superfly would steal that 1970 fly from ya when ya cashed out, dat mean you lose ~50% upon sellin, when ya need it most. Ya should call dis da Payday coin in place of flycoin, cause it as big a rip off as Payday Loans. It not that Flycoin is da safer coin, it dat Vegas is a better Thief than da hacker. :P Wasting ya money on the antikeylogger, Vegas is toutin. http://ask-leo.com/is_there_a_way_to_bypass_keyloggers.html Quote Saetana March 1, 2011 10:34 PM I use a piece of free software called Keyscrambler (I'm using IE 9), this encrypts all login details/passwords as I am entering them. Obviously I use a security suite (Microsoft Security Essentials) plus Threatfire free version for backup but I like this add-on for a little additional security ;o) As noted in the article and in my replies on other comments there is no tool that will protect you from sufficiently sophisticated keyloggers or malware. I'm concerned that people are getting a false sense of security and as a result dropping their guard. Leo Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 13, 2016, 01:21:24 PM Quote Saetana March 1, 2011 10:34 PM I use a piece of free software called Keyscrambler (I'm using IE 9), this encrypts all login details/passwords as I am entering them. Obviously I use a security suite (Microsoft Security Essentials) plus Threatfire free version for backup but I like this add-on for a little additional security ;o) As noted in the article and in my replies on other comments there is no tool that will protect you from sufficiently sophisticated keyloggers or malware. I'm concerned that people are getting a false sense of security and as a result dropping their guard. Leo I'll update this post if I stop laughing from reading `IE 9` and `Microsoft Security` in the same statement. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: billotronic on January 16, 2016, 01:37:55 PM Quote Saetana March 1, 2011 10:34 PM I use a piece of free software called Keyscrambler (I'm using IE 9), this encrypts all login details/passwords as I am entering them. Obviously I use a security suite (Microsoft Security Essentials) plus Threatfire free version for backup but I like this add-on for a little additional security ;o) As noted in the article and in my replies on other comments there is no tool that will protect you from sufficiently sophisticated keyloggers or malware. I'm concerned that people are getting a false sense of security and as a result dropping their guard. Leo I'll update this post if I stop laughing from reading `IE 9` and `Microsoft Security` in the same statement. lol ffs and I thought I was cold... yeah, milk shot out of my nose too Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 16, 2016, 01:44:04 PM Any updates? I haven't heard a peep out of them since FLY went to moderated threads.
Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 17, 2016, 04:30:55 AM Guys , I think many of you are starting to see the protection that fly gives. I can hardly name any coins that have not lost most/all of their value. When all other alts are falling apart and losing 95% of their value, FLY is still growing strong, and if you use it, the way its meant to be used (Hold long term), there are big profits to be made. Vegas That is quite true. I am holding other coins and the fall in price has been big. Plus, flycoin has staked two times for me today even though I do not own that much (about 7.9). Let's keep going fly! Ya Know there a reason dat Math is important. Fly MK in OCT 2015 was $ 312,071 . Now Fly MK is $ 99,002. fer da mathematically challenge, that means Fly Price has divided in 3 in ~3 months, fer a over $212,000 LOSS! Dat a Major Loss any way ya look at it. Ya know Tradin Volume shows interest , dis is da interest in Fly in the past 24 hours Volume (24h) $ 0 Tune in next week ta see if Vegas can convince Fly holders he really does Shit GOLD! Same Fly Time, Same FLY CHANNEL!!! ;D Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 17, 2016, 09:52:17 PM Guys , I think many of you are starting to see the protection that fly gives. I can hardly name any coins that have not lost most/all of their value. When all other alts are falling apart and losing 95% of their value, FLY is still growing strong, and if you use it, the way its meant to be used (Hold long term), there are big profits to be made. Vegas That is quite true. I am holding other coins and the fall in price has been big. Plus, flycoin has staked two times for me today even though I do not own that much (about 7.9). Let's keep going fly! Ya Know there a reason dat Math is important. Fly MK in OCT 2015 was $ 312,071 . Now Fly MK is $ 99,002. fer da mathematically challenge, that means Fly Price has divided in 3 in ~3 months, fer a over $212,000 LOSS! Dat a Major Loss any way ya look at it. Ya know Tradin Volume shows interest , dis is da interest in Fly in the past 24 hours Volume (24h) $ 0 Tune in next week ta see if Vegas can convince Fly holders he really does Shit GOLD! Same Fly Time, Same FLY CHANNEL!!! ;D Just Sayin, AG18 On the off chance you find the exchange wallet actually working so you can trade. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 19, 2016, 09:27:54 AM http://www.flytraphelp.info/images/plants/flytrap.gif
Flycoin 24 hour trading Volume da next day Still $0 :o Volume (24h) $ 0 can't say Fly is not consistent! ;D AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Dromedar on January 19, 2016, 11:52:54 AM Just because my msg got deleted from Vegas i ll post it here once again.
Why should one swap? Is it going to be a success like Fly (lol).I like to bet that this Coin will fail just like Fly. No one bought Fly for days, just sells. The same will happen with XDE II.Vegas and his Muppets will be happy holding ~75% of maxsupply ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: TimC on January 19, 2016, 12:18:49 PM Just because my msg got deleted from Vegas i ll post it here once again. Why should one swap? Is it going to be a success like Fly (lol).I like to bet that this Coin will fail just like Fly. No one bought Fly for days, just sells. The same will happen with XDE II.Vegas and his Muppets will be happy holding ~75% of maxsupply ;D ;D ;D I guess FLY has the same 24 hour volume as XDE which is zero. But Vegas and his Muppet-Team are working really hard... ::) ::) At least they are creating and trying new things. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: TimC on January 19, 2016, 01:02:26 PM At least they are creating and trying new things. This is a large world with all kinds of people all with different ideas. Some people may have bought this coins because of the fees. There could be even some people that bought because of low volume. Not everyone thinks the same. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: elgimpo on January 21, 2016, 08:24:22 AM No wonder TEAM FLY is changing the rules all of a sudden.
There has not been a single buy in well over a week. None. Nobody wants to touch it. So much for the dedicated team of experts running the show. Team FLY is absolutely to blame for the lack of interest. They have proven not to be trusted. They really should have listened to people when they were called out on the bullshit move they are trying with XDE. You dont tell the FLY community you are absolutely committee to one coin, it will be your only one.. ever and then start a greedy hostile takeover of another one. Promising 100% dedication and resources in both threads. You dont tell the XDE community you will not go ahead with a takeover if they dont agree to it, then go ahead and do it anyway. Who does that? Hostile takeovers are for scammers after all. Its no surprise to see they want to manipulate all the new coins into the 'trusted few' yet again by any means necessary. They dont care about XDE, Vegas just happens to be a bagholder and is stealing XDE's name in an attempt to hide the premine on the new coin. A premine that his team of trusted experts have concocted to give them a completely undeserved advantage. Its a shitful act that is plain to see. The saddest thing about TEAM FLY is that they will ruin some pretty good reputations in various other trusted communities with their absolute greed and lies along the way. Well known names from coins like Diamond are in TEAM FLY and will be exposed as supporters of this kind of behaviour. Their silence while all this goes down means they are absolutely complicit with the whole process. These guys are all too happy to say nothing during the hostile takeover, allowing their alliance with TEAM FLY to turn their names into mud.. and it will, news spreads pretty fast around here. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 21, 2016, 01:25:51 PM No wonder TEAM FLY is changing the rules all of a sudden. There has not been a single buy in well over a week. None. Nobody wants to touch it. So much for the dedicated team of experts running the show. Team FLY is absolutely to blame for the lack of interest. They have proven not to be trusted. They really should have listened to people when they were called out on the bullshit move they are trying with XDE. You dont tell the FLY community you are absolutely committee to one coin, it will be your only one.. ever and then start a greedy hostile takeover of another one. Promising 100% dedication and resources in both threads. You dont tell the XDE community you will not go ahead with a takeover if they dont agree to it, then go ahead and do it anyway. Who does that? Hostile takeovers are for scammers after all. Its no surprise to see they want to manipulate all the new coins into the 'trusted few' yet again by any means necessary. They dont care about XDE, Vegas just happens to be a bagholder and is stealing XDE's name in an attempt to hide the premine on the new coin. A premine that his team of trusted experts have concocted to give them a completely undeserved advantage. Its a shitful act that is plain to see. The saddest thing about TEAM FLY is that they will ruin some pretty good reputations in various other trusted communities with their absolute greed and lies along the way. Well known names from coins like Diamond are in TEAM FLY and will be exposed as supporters of this kind of behaviour. Their silence while all this goes down means they are absolutely complicit with the whole process. These guys are all too happy to say nothing during the hostile takeover, allowing their alliance with TEAM FLY to turn their names into mud.. and it will, news spreads pretty fast around here. I saw that, the Diamond guys tried pumping in various threads. I can't remember the name of the user that used to talk about it in other threads, but someone negged him for it. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 22, 2016, 10:58:02 AM Ya Know, Dis just hit me.
From da FLY OP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1316737.0 Quote from: VegasGuy First here is a link to the SuperFLY wallet address: http://fly.dnsalias.com/address/FUvpVUAnEf9u4JPmVWymhV5o1BEvMQBcyP The idea is aimed at helping "the little guy" that supports fly, and helping those that have had a major financial loss. The fees for FLY transactions are VERY high. FLY coin is meant to be held and not traded or dumped. The higher TX fees will make the SuperFLY wallet massive in a short time. Anyone with a balance that is BELOW 5000 FLY and posts once a week about FLY to ANY social media, and has a done a name claim, and has validated their identity as an active member on bitcointalk.org or active in slack is eligible to get staking rewards from the SuperFLY wallet. To remain eligible , you must NOT create any outbound transactions, and you must make a post once a week to any social media that is crypto related about fly and link back to FLY thread as proof The staking rewards will be evenly sent to the different wallets automatically. The rewards are NOT based on your balance. Its based on how many people qualify. VegasGuy's Fly Forums is a Give-A-Way Forum , dose are supposed ta be banned. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780979.0 Quote from: mprep Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked. Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 22, 2016, 11:32:26 AM This is the part where I would just nope out, sorry:
Quote To remain eligible , you must NOT create any outbound transactions Why doesn't FLY encourage more liquidity? :D But seriously, would it break if I sat down and created a few tx's for cold storage purposes, but waited to broadcast them? Does that make one ineligible for rewards? Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: billotronic on January 24, 2016, 04:52:06 AM since the lovely mod keeps deleting everything i have ever posted in the orginal flycoin thread, I thought I would share this gem on what put vegas on my radar in the first place.
Full disclosure, presstab is a crypto friend of mine. This is because he is an honest and smart person, very much the opposite of the swill you are about to read. http://oi66.tinypic.com/vex092.jpg http://oi65.tinypic.com/29l02m9.jpg Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: mObLOBScHAr on January 25, 2016, 08:24:25 PM as XDEII is really failing and vegas tries to bury my serious notes about the project I am double posting here this too:
Its about the XDEII swap, which looks like a total fail or scam: Once again: STAY AWAY FROM XDEII. According to XDEII Wallet sourcecode (https://github.com/CoinProjects/XDECoin/blob/7c8911b8b86d5112987b134d04c3dbb6930e97c6/src/walletlevels.cpp), the Platinum wallets are: 1) xPXuZNkLM3Q4QfE8nE9f2qy1NC84HvhbpC (vegasguy address #001) 2) xQvNsgihpvPwYwi8Gqij4X4sR9j5QwC3Y8 (team wallet address #002) 3) xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj (team wallet address #003) 4) x9J86i6hPhscv1HWU3UNf1S6o5at48aBfC (team wallet address #004) 5) xGVXBBxSjrubr7QSBwuXKbmyG89yGdFjut (team wallet address #005) 6) xMErPU5nDWhdAtGwBZsaC5xP4XzsJpsCNJ (community wallet address #006) 7) xNApUfouAU4CKqM721umxSNJ2vxVHNLN9X (unused, probably for sale #007) No let's have a look at the pic of the swap from vegas guy: (click to see original image) http://s29.postimg.org/alnwppocn/xdeswapvegas.jpg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1310435.msg13664150#msg13664150) There were 7 transactions mentioned by vegasguy: Transaction #1: Old XDE ADDRESS: XZuV3JeVbR4ZCVXYZYr8DmRLpQRSDDqw83 NEW XDEII ADDRESS: xQvNsgihpvPwYwi8Gqij4X4sR9j5QwC3Y8 swapped 4.765 XDE to 33.3 XDEII. As you can see, the swapped XDEII-Amount went to team-wallet-adress #002 --> THIS IS A PLATINUM address with 300% stake. Transaction #5: OLD: XS1pNiXXYnLCr4Mt7iyp4PnJzF7EEpCeY4 NEW: xPXuZNkLM3Q4QfE8nE9f2qy1NC84HvhbpC obviously the address of vegasguy, as he mentioned it multiple times in the last few weeks. swapped 125 XDEII plus 53 XDEII as teammember. THIS IS A PLATINUM address with 300% stake. T#2 went from XKU5xT3u43e78x6oTVqy8KecmZVKUJwtrS to XDEII xCCgTMnHDURpYuzzNYK3RZECJ2Hv1ytS4A (STANDARD WALLET): 05.49 XDEII T#3 went from Xad9SsNcjFD83qWbeG1YsLUQymTY8rvMeX to XDEII xTK3uoKsCko5BKi9C6vG5UkFAkY2TQ5JmE (STANDARD WALLET): 29.61 XDEII T#4 went from XNSuECRUiS86bRQcMZwcWqvfLHesUKYbpb to XDEII xApweneyFU9EVujgt6T9yTboqGiMtME7i3 (STANDARD WALLET): 50.19 XDEII T#6 went from XPTVjEfPqo4FZ6sDAHrw7yugC4ThqphSJk to XDEII xMdCCC5CDHPmfLGjzD6vsvCU1zXN1RguLD (STANDARD WALLET): 02.75 XDEII TOTAL "swapped coins": 35.26 XDE Swapped coins from team members: 22.66 XDE Now.. there is already a GOLD-wallet in use: xW8n21Fk5EdUQvganihZAWbrzESew1SkS7 It holds 10 XDEII. why is this not mentioned in the swap - where did the XDE come from to this account? (further mentioned as "UG1") I will further assume, that those coins are holded by the community. But there is no proof for this! There are 3 more addresses with totally unclear origins: Total amount in there: 9.4 XDEII. No correspondig XDE-transaction found to those addresses. (further mentioned as "UN3") (xN8u2PPCeEvS3DkQWtTMAu1PqXaYmCgWKC, xFKrAEPn7QnUJT7sMAFPWpS64SEWaexPCW, xGm7dyEnB4cNGWSYXgBFEjWicFASRV6YQN) Because of that, it is not really possible to say if those are in possession of the team or the community. I will further assume, that those coins are holded by the community. But there is no proof for this! Now, let's sum it up: Total XDEII: 1004.49 ------------------------------- VEGASGUY: 178.96 TeamMember-2: 086.59 TeamMember-3: 053.00 TeamMember-4: 053.00 TeamMember-5: 053.00 Community: 458.46 -------------------------------- TOTAL in TEAM: 883.01 (87.91%) Why did I count the community wallet as Team-Coins? Because the team holds the private key of this address and can therefor control those coins. Distributed among Community: T#2: 05.49 T#3: 31.61 T#4: 60.19 T#6: 04.77 UG1: 10.00 UN3: 09.42 ------------------------------- TOTAL IN CIRCULATION: 121.48 (12.09%) As already mentioned 1000 times before: Because every coin on the Side of the "TEAM" is staking with 300%, this gap between TEAM and COMMUNITY will get bigger. Only 1 person of the community owns a GOLD-wallet with 250% stake-rate. Everyone else has to stake with 200%. This will get out of hand very soon. So, yeah. All in all, looks like this was very successfull swap ;D. Good coin distribution! But as we know from team vegas in the past: This won't stop him from telling lies about how awesome his Coin and his work is. ::) (btw: He still deletes all my post from the XDEII-Thread. Pure censorship.) --- But all-in-all: THIS IS A GOOD DAY FOR XDE. The one and only true Double Eagle coin. 1 XDE before the swap was 0.95% of the total coin amount. As we can now consider those burned 35.28 coins as gone forever, there are now only 70.16 XDE coins remaining in circulation. This means, 1 XDE has now a weight of 1,43% of the total amount. That is awesome and will make XDE rarer than ever. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 25, 2016, 11:12:18 PM as XDEII is really failing and vegas tries to bury my serious notes about the project I am double posting here this too: Its about the XDEII swap, which looks like a total fail or scam: Once again: STAY AWAY FROM XDEII. According to XDEII Wallet sourcecode (https://github.com/CoinProjects/XDECoin/blob/7c8911b8b86d5112987b134d04c3dbb6930e97c6/src/walletlevels.cpp), the Platinum wallets are: 1) xPXuZNkLM3Q4QfE8nE9f2qy1NC84HvhbpC (vegasguy address #001) 2) xQvNsgihpvPwYwi8Gqij4X4sR9j5QwC3Y8 (team wallet address #002) 3) xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj (team wallet address #003) 4) x9J86i6hPhscv1HWU3UNf1S6o5at48aBfC (team wallet address #004) 5) xGVXBBxSjrubr7QSBwuXKbmyG89yGdFjut (team wallet address #005) 6) xMErPU5nDWhdAtGwBZsaC5xP4XzsJpsCNJ (community wallet address #006) 7) xNApUfouAU4CKqM721umxSNJ2vxVHNLN9X (unused, probably for sale #007) No let's have a look at the pic of the swap from vegas guy: (click to see original image) http://s29.postimg.org/alnwppocn/xdeswapvegas.jpg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1310435.msg13664150#msg13664150) There were 7 transactions mentioned by vegasguy: Transaction #1: Old XDE ADDRESS: XZuV3JeVbR4ZCVXYZYr8DmRLpQRSDDqw83 NEW XDEII ADDRESS: xQvNsgihpvPwYwi8Gqij4X4sR9j5QwC3Y8 swapped 4.765 XDE to 33.3 XDEII. As you can see, the swapped XDEII-Amount went to team-wallet-adress #002 --> THIS IS A PLATINUM address with 300% stake. Transaction #5: OLD: XS1pNiXXYnLCr4Mt7iyp4PnJzF7EEpCeY4 NEW: xPXuZNkLM3Q4QfE8nE9f2qy1NC84HvhbpC obviously the address of vegasguy, as he mentioned it multiple times in the last few weeks. swapped 125 XDEII plus 53 XDEII as teammember. THIS IS A PLATINUM address with 300% stake. T#2 went from XKU5xT3u43e78x6oTVqy8KecmZVKUJwtrS to XDEII xCCgTMnHDURpYuzzNYK3RZECJ2Hv1ytS4A (STANDARD WALLET): 05.49 XDEII T#3 went from Xad9SsNcjFD83qWbeG1YsLUQymTY8rvMeX to XDEII xTK3uoKsCko5BKi9C6vG5UkFAkY2TQ5JmE (STANDARD WALLET): 29.61 XDEII T#4 went from XNSuECRUiS86bRQcMZwcWqvfLHesUKYbpb to XDEII xApweneyFU9EVujgt6T9yTboqGiMtME7i3 (STANDARD WALLET): 50.19 XDEII T#6 went from XPTVjEfPqo4FZ6sDAHrw7yugC4ThqphSJk to XDEII xMdCCC5CDHPmfLGjzD6vsvCU1zXN1RguLD (STANDARD WALLET): 02.75 XDEII TOTAL "swapped coins": 35.26 XDE Swapped coins from team members: 22.66 XDE Now.. there is already a GOLD-wallet in use: xW8n21Fk5EdUQvganihZAWbrzESew1SkS7 It holds 10 XDEII. why is this not mentioned in the swap - where did the XDE come from to this account? (further mentioned as "UG1") I will further assume, that those coins are holded by the community. But there is no proof for this! There are 3 more addresses with totally unclear origins: Total amount in there: 9.4 XDEII. No correspondig XDE-transaction found to those addresses. (further mentioned as "UN3") (xN8u2PPCeEvS3DkQWtTMAu1PqXaYmCgWKC, xFKrAEPn7QnUJT7sMAFPWpS64SEWaexPCW, xGm7dyEnB4cNGWSYXgBFEjWicFASRV6YQN) Because of that, it is not really possible to say if those are in possession of the team or the community. I will further assume, that those coins are holded by the community. But there is no proof for this! Now, let's sum it up: Total XDEII: 1004.49 ------------------------------- VEGASGUY: 178.96 TeamMember-2: 086.59 TeamMember-3: 053.00 TeamMember-4: 053.00 TeamMember-5: 053.00 Community: 458.46 -------------------------------- TOTAL in TEAM: 883.01 (87.91%) Why did I count the community wallet as Team-Coins? Because the team holds the private key of this address and can therefor control those coins. Distributed among Community: T#2: 05.49 T#3: 31.61 T#4: 60.19 T#6: 04.77 UG1: 10.00 UN3: 09.42 ------------------------------- TOTAL IN CIRCULATION: 121.48 (12.09%) As already mentioned 1000 times before: Because every coin on the Side of the "TEAM" is staking with 300%, this gap between TEAM and COMMUNITY will get bigger. Only 1 person of the community owns a GOLD-wallet with 250% stake-rate. Everyone else has to stake with 200%. This will get out of hand very soon. So, yeah. All in all, looks like this was very successfull swap ;D. Good coin distribution! But as we know from team vegas in the past: This won't stop him from telling lies about how awesome his Coin and his work is. ::) (btw: He still deletes all my post from the XDEII-Thread. Pure censorship.) --- But all-in-all: THIS IS A GOOD DAY FOR XDE. The one and only true Double Eagle coin. 1 XDE before the swap was 0.95% of the total coin amount. As we can now consider those burned 35.28 coins as gone forever, there are now only 70.16 XDE coins remaining in circulation. This means, 1 XDE has now a weight of 1,43% of the total amount. That is awesome and will make XDE rarer than ever. I have noticed a trend in "rarer" cryptocurrency over the past year. As the herd is thinned out each new coin has something to prove. How rare can you be? ::) Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: kiklo on January 27, 2016, 06:54:13 AM I have noticed a trend in "rarer" cryptocurrency over the past year. As the herd is thinned out each new coin has something to prove. How rare can you be? ::) I believe that rare coin design will all have 3 major issues to try and solve in the future, 1. Due to the low # of staking coins , network security /difficulty will be weaker , as less coins are securing the network. 2. Nothing to stake problem, where a big wallet goes offline, and there are no new blocks for hours. Irregular block times causing payment disruptions. 3. Price & Demand : Once your initial support base buys their coins, since you are so rare your price will be higher so what service will you offer that makes new people continue to buy the coin. Looking forward to see what the different solutions to these problems are? 8) Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 27, 2016, 03:23:11 PM I have noticed a trend in "rarer" cryptocurrency over the past year. As the herd is thinned out each new coin has something to prove. How rare can you be? ::) I believe that rare coin design will all have 3 major issues to try and solve in the future, 1. Due to the low # of staking coins , network security /difficulty will be weaker , as less coins are securing the network. 2. Nothing to stake problem, where a big wallet goes offline, and there are no new blocks for hours. Irregular block times causing payment disruptions. 3. Price & Demand : Once your initial support base buys their coins, since you are so rare your price will be higher so what service will you offer that makes new people continue to buy the coin. Looking forward to see what the different solutions to these problems are? 8) All problems inherent with most staked coins. I don't feel PoS in it's current form can sustain a crypto economy but there will be exciting innovations in the future I am sure. Cryptocurrency is still in it's earlier stages with many discoveries yet to be made. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: kiklo on January 28, 2016, 04:15:47 AM All problems inherent with most staked coins. I don't feel PoS in it's current form can sustain a crypto economy but there will be exciting innovations in the future In that we would have a slight disagreement. :D PoS coins with over a Billion coins have solved issues 1 & 2. Just to compare, PoW all face an ASICS arms race that will always centralized a coin to the elite few as we already see with BTC. Using brand new ASICS a firm could completely control a PoW coin network with 51% processing power, which they will have until manufacturers can catch up, which could be months at a time. PoS on the other Hand , even if you purchase enough coins to give you over 51% , due to the nature of a well designed PoS specs like 15 days or more before staking, right after you stake your mining capacity is reduced, so all anyone ever has to do is wait for enough confirmations to solidify the transaction. Time will Prove a Well Designed PoS is the stronger option Over All PoW versions. Plus a PoW ASICS edge could be Reused against multiple coins, being a cheaper option. Buying a PoS coin is more expensive , specific to only 1 coin, and trying to buy up of a coin raises the price and increases demand, which will cause more people to stake , and make it harder to buy, increasing resistance to attack. :D 8) Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: Argon18 on January 28, 2016, 06:34:36 AM Ya know,
it seems Vegas slipped some of da Mods a little dough, as dis forum was created under Altcoin Announcements , where it should still be! but someone moved it to da Altcoin Discussion forum, without even tellin me. And Vegas still runnin a give-a-way forum and dey say nothin to him. Just Sayin. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on January 28, 2016, 11:05:37 AM Ya know, it seems Vegas slipped some of da Mods a little dough, as dis forum was created under Altcoin Announcements , where it should still be! but someone moved it to da Altcoin Discussion forum, without even tellin me. And Vegas still runnin a give-a-way forum and dey say nothin to him. Just Sayin. AG18 It had to be BTC they were slipped. If you get paid in FLY good luck getting that moved anywhere in a decent timetable considering there is only one exchange that accepts it (that I know of) with a propped-up price. Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Da UnCensored Version Post by: Argon18 on February 05, 2016, 11:51:40 PM Guys if you have any seller orders less than .3449 BTC , please cancel the low sell orders and move them back to .3449 BTC. Lets get back to that price. Also put buy orders in as they will keep dumping cheap, picked up a few XDEII very cheap already :) They are also placing very low sell orders in order to lower the price. Lets keep our orders at .34 btc and let someone get cheap xdeII Thanks Vegas Translation: Guys ya sellin cheaper that i am, so increase ya prices so i can sell mine. ;D query: will Vegas Market Mind control set the price or will traders trade at their own whim. ??? Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on February 06, 2016, 02:40:40 AM Vegas, deleting posts from your self moderated threads where more of your lies are being exposed only adds to their accuracy and proves you're out to scam people.
The latest one he is trying to hide is where his own trusted team members are starting to dump XDE2 from their special 'wallets' having stated point blank that no team members will sell. Why try and hide this Vegas? Why not disprove it if its not happening? Because you cant and you've been busted... again. You're a snake. Quote Im very close with that wallet holder and there is NO WAY he dumped it down to were prices are. Why, because you say so? You also said that none of your team members is selling. That was shown to be untrue.Anyone can check the explorer. Its strange that you claimed to have checked it and still tried to state that nobody on your team was selling. Simple mistake or more lies? In fact 4 coins is what he sent to the exchange and MUCH more has been dumped than four coins Wrong again. Its more than that. Your claim that no team members are selling is already disproven with 100% certainty. It's either going on behind your back and you are not so close to the person, you dont know how to read an explorer or you are trying to hide it.You can choose which one.So there IS only one logical conclusion. Someone or a group bought massive amounts a few days ago to dump it cheap. Well, thanks for the cheap XDEII. You wont be able to keep that up too long ;) No, the logical conclusion is that the wallet of one of your team members who you are very close to, is selling. In fact is indisputable.Vegas Trying to pin the dump on people outside your trusted group is something you wish others to believe to be true Title: Re: FLYCOIN FORUM, Here Ya can post your real feelings and concerns Post by: siameze on February 06, 2016, 03:09:53 PM Ya Know, Dis just hit me. From da FLY OP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1316737.0 Quote from: VegasGuy First here is a link to the SuperFLY wallet address: http://fly.dnsalias.com/address/FUvpVUAnEf9u4JPmVWymhV5o1BEvMQBcyP The idea is aimed at helping "the little guy" that supports fly, and helping those that have had a major financial loss. The fees for FLY transactions are VERY high. FLY coin is meant to be held and not traded or dumped. The higher TX fees will make the SuperFLY wallet massive in a short time. Anyone with a balance that is BELOW 5000 FLY and posts once a week about FLY to ANY social media, and has a done a name claim, and has validated their identity as an active member on bitcointalk.org or active in slack is eligible to get staking rewards from the SuperFLY wallet. To remain eligible , you must NOT create any outbound transactions, and you must make a post once a week to any social media that is crypto related about fly and link back to FLY thread as proof The staking rewards will be evenly sent to the different wallets automatically. The rewards are NOT based on your balance. Its based on how many people qualify. VegasGuy's Fly Forums is a Give-A-Way Forum , dose are supposed ta be banned. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780979.0 Quote from: mprep Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked. Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread. Just Sayin, AG18 If they are promoting a giveaway on the forum, then report it to grue. He explicitly mentions these are against forum rules, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1349047.msg13778978#msg13778978 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on February 11, 2016, 09:20:11 AM Ok, so just in case anyone doubted that this vegas guy was a dishonest liar and scammer of the highest order, I'll just leave another one of my deleted posts here from his self moderated thread.
This is multiple times now he has been caught out lying about his team members selling their laughable XDE2 premine. Trying to blame people from this community while his team sells just shows the depths he will go to to try and cheat people of a few satoshi. On the bright side, the hostile takeover and his gigantic premine was a complete and utter failure. All it served to do was solidify the fencer sitters who were unsure about what a greedy lying little shit this guy is. The only buys for xde2 have come from him and he is now begging his own team members to stop selling. He now holds huge premines in the coins that nobody in their right mind would want to buy from him. Karma is a bitch Vegas. Quote Guys I checked all of our wallets again, and none of us are selling. So that means the same clowns are manipulating the market. My strongest advice is dont get suckered in to lowering your bid. What they are doing is buying from us and selling at VERY low prices. My advice, pull back all your orders to .34 BTC and make them pay that price to dump into the buy side at .04btc. If we ALL do this, they wont be able to do this for long. Vegas Outright lies...again. You are just going out of your way to scam people now. You clearly dont care about your reputation or integrity any more. I already informed you once after you first lied about this, giving you the benefit of the doubt that even though you claimed to have checked, you simply didnt know what you were talking about but its obvious for all to see that your being intentionally deceitful now. Again, your team wallet xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj has sent coins to the exchange multiple times and is absolutely selling. You very well know it too. Your response was to delete my initial post, proving what I am showing you is correct and you are trying to hide it from people. Predictably, You will delete this post too. Thats perfectly ok though Vegas, all of your attempts to hide the lies you keep telling just go into my scrap book on you as well as being posted in multiple threads for everyone to see. I am actually playing you like the fool that you are and you keep falling for it. Oh what, another team wallet is selling: x9J86i6hPhscv1HWU3UNf1S6o5at48aBfC You know very well that your trusted team members are selling but choose to lie to people instead, its how you operate. Its why nobody is buying your greedy dishonest coins. FLY and XDE2 are both massive failures, the laughing stocks of crypto in a world full of shitcoins. Its all because you cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything. Although this dismal failure of this hostile takeover was always going to happen, continuing to lie about it only proves what everyone outside of your collection of 3 idiots and paid off team members is saying about you. Youre a scam artist by pure definition. Everything you touch is bound to fail and it wont change until you stop blatantly lying to people. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 11, 2016, 12:00:06 PM Thanks to all that keep this thread updated. It is helpful to expose the intentions of scammers, thereby reducing the amount of gullible people who keep funding this shit. No room for this sort of dishonesty in cryptoland.
Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Woody20285 on February 12, 2016, 02:51:52 AM author=elgimpo XDE thread
Wallet with address: xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj is a team wallet. It has been staking at a higher percentage than the community because it is a 'trusted' team wallet address. It's been moving coins to the exchange since launch, the latest one was less than 24 hours ago. Edit: Woody - If you are going to make posts at least try to make them honest or opinions - not outright lies. The above wallet did not have any transactions to the exchange yesterday or today or in the past 10 days.. http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj (http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj) 10th Feb 2016 17:58:43 31b9bb47c9d5be13d5999ef7fda453d7e0838187b269aec7d093ca48846a930a - 1.21000002 The owner of the wallet did sent coins to himself. Learn to read an explorer. author=elgimpo XDE thread Vegas, after having this pointed out to him in the scenario described above, still claims to have checked team wallets and declared nobody is selling. Vegas went as far as to state that he knows this user personally... Edit: Woody - Seems Vegas did check the block explorer and is correct and it's obvious you do not know how to. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 12, 2016, 03:08:26 AM author=elgimpo XDE thread Wallet with address: xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj is a team wallet. It has been staking at a higher percentage than the community because it is a 'trusted' team wallet address. It's been moving coins to the exchange since launch, the latest one was less than 24 hours ago. Edit: Woody - If you are going to make posts at least try to make them honest or opinions - not outright lies. The above wallet did not have any transactions to the exchange yesterday or today or in the past 10 days.. http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj (http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj) 10th Feb 2016 17:58:43 31b9bb47c9d5be13d5999ef7fda453d7e0838187b269aec7d093ca48846a930a - 1.21000002 The owner of the wallet did sent coins to himself to combine block inputs. Learn to read an explorer. author=elgimpo XDE thread Vegas, after having this pointed out to him in the scenario described above, still claims to have checked team wallets and declared nobody is selling. Vegas went as far as to state that he knows this user personally... Edit: Woody - Seems Vegas did check the block explorer and is correct and it's obvious you do not know how to. Doesn't this create a more centralized system and kind of defeat the purpose of having a trustless system? Kinda what crypto is all about. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Woody20285 on February 12, 2016, 03:10:02 AM author=elgimpo XDE thread Doesn't this create a more centralized system and kind of defeat the purpose of having a trustless system? Kinda what crypto is all about.Wallet with address: xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj is a team wallet. It has been staking at a higher percentage than the community because it is a 'trusted' team wallet address. It's been moving coins to the exchange since launch, the latest one was less than 24 hours ago. Edit: Woody - If you are going to make posts at least try to make them honest or opinions - not outright lies. The above wallet did not have any transactions to the exchange yesterday or today or in the past 10 days.. http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj (http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj) 10th Feb 2016 17:58:43 31b9bb47c9d5be13d5999ef7fda453d7e0838187b269aec7d093ca48846a930a - 1.21000002 The owner of the wallet did sent coins to himself to combine block inputs. Learn to read an explorer. author=elgimpo XDE thread Vegas, after having this pointed out to him in the scenario described above, still claims to have checked team wallets and declared nobody is selling. Vegas went as far as to state that he knows this user personally... Edit: Woody - Seems Vegas did check the block explorer and is correct and it's obvious you do not know how to. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on February 12, 2016, 03:12:08 AM Wallet with address: xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj is a team wallet. It has been staking at a higher percentage than the community because it is a 'trusted' team wallet address. It's been moving coins to the exchange since launch, the latest one was less than 24 hours ago. Edit: If you are going to make posts at least try to make them honest or opinions - not outright lies. The above wallet did not have any transactions to the exchange yesterday or today or in the past 10 days.. http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj (http://xde2.dnsalias.com/address/xLCXwwH81EiYc1o2Hwm7pRgvpHfvzx6Duj) 10th Feb 2016 17:58:43 31b9bb47c9d5be13d5999ef7fda453d7e0838187b269aec7d093ca48846a930a - 1.21000002 The owner of the wallet did sent coins to himself to combine block inputs. Learn to read an explorer.[/color] Vegas, after having this pointed out to him in the scenario described above, still claims to have checked team wallets and declared nobody is selling. Vegas went as far as to state that he knows this user personally... Edit: Seems Vegas did check the block explorer and is correct and it's obvious you do not know how. You should have given up with your first failed attempt to hide the sales from the team wallets. Didn't you embarrass yourself and your team enough yet? You're absolutely clueless for a so called bunch of self proclaimed crypto experts. Here I'll make it easier for you. This is the destination address xCxDRx3gtowxmirCw4szdX5KTitvppiLjt That is the exchange address Vegas himself admitted that this wallet sent a 'few' coins to. See all those transactions against it? See if you can determine how that wallet address was funded. This is about as basic as it gets woody, I honestly cannot believe that you are still trying to deny this. So please tell me again how I dont know what I am talking about, how I am being dishonest or how I cannot read an explorer. I wont expect an apology when you realize that you are wrong either.. again. You and your team are not capable of doing so. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Woody20285 on February 12, 2016, 03:15:00 AM I stand corrected. I am capable of apologizing and do so here.
Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on February 12, 2016, 03:24:41 AM I stand corrected and therefore, apologize. Impressive. Perhaps there is hope for you yet. ;D Personally, I've seen your work on many threads over an extended period of time and do have respect for you as an individual. I do not believe you are intentionally out to cheat people. Much like many of the Team fly members however, you are only doing your reputation harm by associating yourself with the likes of Vegas. I know you are also close personal friends and find yourself in a difficult position, but if you are more than happy to not just allow him to operate in the manner he does but join in and support his actions, you'll end up in the mud bucket right next to him in the end. Now, Id suggest you discuss with Vegas who is 'very close' with this team member who is selling why he is making your team look like an group of deceitful liars. Perhaps a good place to start is to post what is actually happening in the XDE2 thread, or you can let it go and allow people to be fed false information in the hope that they buy some of the Team FLY premine. Your move. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 18, 2016, 12:59:47 PM Looks like I have been added to the delete all posts rule in FLY now, all because I dared to mention XDE2 in that thread and that it might be affecting the way people view FLY. Which is absolutely true but now I am not able to participate in the community FLY rewards. Not a good look Team FLY, horrible way to build trust. I got into FLY long ago and I really feel like I have been suckered now. Great way to treat people who invested with you. Oh well, not the first time and it wont be the last but I am extremely disappointed that you would just delete posts without warning instead of responding to them. Everyone seems to have issues with the XDE thing besides inner circle, hence the need to moderate posts. Fortunately there are ways to preserve these things, if done poperly, there is no delete on the internet or the blockchain. ;) Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on February 19, 2016, 11:22:55 PM Guys I have lowered the price on the high yield wallets. PM me if interested. New prices as follows: Platinum wallet: 300% per year cost 2BTC .ONLY 1 will be available to the public at the cost of 2 btc. Gold wallet yields 250% per year. A total of 5 will be available to the public at the cost of 1.2 btc each Silver wallet yields 225% per year. A total of 10 silver wallets will be available to the public. Cost 1 BTC each So the POS cut wont happen for a few weeks, so you can benefit greatly now, and even after the cut, youll have an advantage. PM me if interested. Vegas Translation: Pay me BTC for these addresses that give ya more of dis worthless coin. Anyone else noticed how Vegas changes the specs at da moment's notice without group approval. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 20, 2016, 01:36:19 AM Guys I have lowered the price on the high yield wallets. PM me if interested. New prices as follows: Platinum wallet: 300% per year cost 2BTC .ONLY 1 will be available to the public at the cost of 2 btc. Gold wallet yields 250% per year. A total of 5 will be available to the public at the cost of 1.2 btc each Silver wallet yields 225% per year. A total of 10 silver wallets will be available to the public. Cost 1 BTC each So the POS cut wont happen for a few weeks, so you can benefit greatly now, and even after the cut, youll have an advantage. PM me if interested. Vegas Translation: Pay me BTC for these addresses that give ya more of dis worthless coin. Anyone else noticed how Vegas changes the specs at da moment's notice without group approval. Just Sayin, AG18 OMFG is this for real? only ONE Platinum wallet will be available !!!!! (tm) This is going full-blown MLM coin or something. I literally can't stop laughing at how daft these guys are. :D Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 23, 2016, 12:03:15 AM Found a Fly Team Photo. ;D ;D ;D http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/b5236e4ccc84ef48ef5993b2af8e4010/202267673/minions_2015-wide.jpg AG18 Stupid is what keeps shitcoin scams afloat ... so a necessary thing for "developers" of such coins. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on February 25, 2016, 09:38:50 AM I actually agree with you Mark. I think you could have posted a little kinder. But anyway. There are MAJOR changes coming to FLY, so many that we dont even have the dev power to code them fast enough. Here is what we have been working on. We have been developing a website that will be an all around site for crypto. It has many features, but its main source of income will be to sell CURRENT, and up to the minute wallet bootstraps, AND subscriptions to email users when a wallet of their choice gets updated. Pricing will be attractive and the site will only accept FLY. There is a site that already does that for free: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333062.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333062.0) :-\ Mark I really thought you were a FLY supporter, but now I am beginning to wonder. You said "Time to come up with a real plan". Within 5 minutes , I handed it to you on a silver platter. But then you compared us to some half baked free website. So Im not sure what else you want. Anyway. First NONE of their bootstraps are up to date. ALL of ours are updated to the last block. Also , they wont have over 1400 wallets, we will. Also they dont offer a service that emails the user the second a new wallet is released (Only wallets they choose). So, they are not the same. Like you said "not even close". We will be hiring the fly users to find the latest wallets and will be paying them per wallet submission. The customers of the site, will then be emailed once that wallet is verified. We have studied the users balances and as fly is much cheaper , we are requiring a user to hold 400 FLY to be paid for wallet submissions. So users that hold this many FLY can earn as many fly in a day as they want. Vegas Translation: Mark , ya are dis close da being put on da banned list!!! Hope everyone get the point here: EVERY NEW WALLET will be paid with FLY! Working for free is poison for cryptocurrency! The reason, why so much failed and a lot of good ideas never finished! Working for free ends up always in scams and fails! So we do it right, to pay for every new wallet! The whole world is welcome, to earn for their work. Translation: All of You will Pay US and Make US RICH , cause WE SAY SO!!! Tune in same Fly Time Next Week, when VegasGuy explains why he has the Right to the Practice of jus primae noctis !!!! Translated jus primae noctis means : noblemen and upper class men supposedly had the right to take the virginity of peasant women. :-* Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 25, 2016, 01:02:29 PM I actually agree with you Mark. I think you could have posted a little kinder. But anyway. There are MAJOR changes coming to FLY, so many that we dont even have the dev power to code them fast enough. Here is what we have been working on. We have been developing a website that will be an all around site for crypto. It has many features, but its main source of income will be to sell CURRENT, and up to the minute wallet bootstraps, AND subscriptions to email users when a wallet of their choice gets updated. Pricing will be attractive and the site will only accept FLY. There is a site that already does that for free: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333062.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333062.0) :-\ Mark I really thought you were a FLY supporter, but now I am beginning to wonder. You said "Time to come up with a real plan". Within 5 minutes , I handed it to you on a silver platter. But then you compared us to some half baked free website. So Im not sure what else you want. Anyway. First NONE of their bootstraps are up to date. ALL of ours are updated to the last block. Also , they wont have over 1400 wallets, we will. Also they dont offer a service that emails the user the second a new wallet is released (Only wallets they choose). So, they are not the same. Like you said "not even close". We will be hiring the fly users to find the latest wallets and will be paying them per wallet submission. The customers of the site, will then be emailed once that wallet is verified. We have studied the users balances and as fly is much cheaper , we are requiring a user to hold 400 FLY to be paid for wallet submissions. So users that hold this many FLY can earn as many fly in a day as they want. Vegas Translation: Mark , ya are dis close da being put on da banned list!!! Hope everyone get the point here: EVERY NEW WALLET will be paid with FLY! Working for free is poison for cryptocurrency! The reason, why so much failed and a lot of good ideas never finished! Working for free ends up always in scams and fails! So we do it right, to pay for every new wallet! The whole world is welcome, to earn for their work. Translation: All of You will Pay US and Make US RICH , cause WE SAY SO!!! Tune in same Fly Time Next Week, when VegasGuy explains why he has the Right to the Practice of jus primae noctis !!!! Translated jus primae noctis means : noblemen and upper class men supposedly had the right to take the virginity of peasant women. :-* Just Sayin, AG18 This is fucking hilarious. I can't wait until the cost of storage and bandwidth outstrips the resources alloted for this project, since you know blockchains aren't light and all. This will go over about as good as that "exotic chocolate and coffee" website the RDD crowd made, that only accepts reddcoin. Ask the owner how well that worked out. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: keesdewit on February 28, 2016, 03:50:05 PM I actually agree with you Mark. I think you could have posted a little kinder. But anyway. There are MAJOR changes coming to FLY, so many that we dont even have the dev power to code them fast enough. Here is what we have been working on. We have been developing a website that will be an all around site for crypto. It has many features, but its main source of income will be to sell CURRENT, and up to the minute wallet bootstraps, AND subscriptions to email users when a wallet of their choice gets updated. Pricing will be attractive and the site will only accept FLY. There is a site that already does that for free: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333062.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1333062.0) :-\ Mark I really thought you were a FLY supporter, but now I am beginning to wonder. You said "Time to come up with a real plan". Within 5 minutes , I handed it to you on a silver platter. But then you compared us to some half baked free website. So Im not sure what else you want. Anyway. First NONE of their bootstraps are up to date. ALL of ours are updated to the last block. Also , they wont have over 1400 wallets, we will. Also they dont offer a service that emails the user the second a new wallet is released (Only wallets they choose). So, they are not the same. Like you said "not even close". We will be hiring the fly users to find the latest wallets and will be paying them per wallet submission. The customers of the site, will then be emailed once that wallet is verified. We have studied the users balances and as fly is much cheaper , we are requiring a user to hold 400 FLY to be paid for wallet submissions. So users that hold this many FLY can earn as many fly in a day as they want. Vegas Translation: Mark , ya are dis close da being put on da banned list!!! Hope everyone get the point here: EVERY NEW WALLET will be paid with FLY! Working for free is poison for cryptocurrency! The reason, why so much failed and a lot of good ideas never finished! Working for free ends up always in scams and fails! So we do it right, to pay for every new wallet! The whole world is welcome, to earn for their work. Translation: All of You will Pay US and Make US RICH , cause WE SAY SO!!! Tune in same Fly Time Next Week, when VegasGuy explains why he has the Right to the Practice of jus primae noctis !!!! Translated jus primae noctis means : noblemen and upper class men supposedly had the right to take the virginity of peasant women. :-* Just Sayin, AG18 Translation: I don't make a penny with crying, so I'm pretty jealous. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 28, 2016, 04:13:27 PM Sorry, an open source free api that does all of the above trumps a platform running on an obscure altcoin every time.
Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on February 29, 2016, 06:42:08 AM Translation: I don't make a penny with crying, so I'm pretty jealous. LOL , ;D ya tired of being in the Censored forum. Ya know , all of da Fly Guys must be broke, cause ya whine about money in 1 out of every 5 posts. Let me ask ya, why ya such a lousy coder that Vegasguy keeps hiring more programmers? Dis is from another coin ya started 1 Active network connection, too slow... AMS is Developed and Owned by Keesdewit But where is KEES now? He didn't update the nodes. Please update nodes for AMS. Thank you. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 29, 2016, 06:02:49 PM Translation: I don't make a penny with crying, so I'm pretty jealous. LOL , ;D ya tired of being in the Censored forum. Ya know , all of da Fly Guys must be broke, cause ya whine about money in 1 out of every 5 posts. Let me ask ya, why ya such a lousy coder that Vegasguy keeps hiring more programmers? Dis is from another coin ya started 1 Active network connection, too slow... AMS is Developed and Owned by Keesdewit But where is KEES now? He didn't update the nodes. Please update nodes for AMS. Thank you. Just Sayin, AG18 So there is another broken coin with near identical code? Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: keesdewit on February 29, 2016, 06:10:51 PM Translation: I don't make a penny with crying, so I'm pretty jealous. LOL , ;D ya tired of being in the Censored forum. Ya know , all of da Fly Guys must be broke, cause ya whine about money in 1 out of every 5 posts. Let me ask ya, why ya such a lousy coder that Vegasguy keeps hiring more programmers? Dis is from another coin ya started 1 Active network connection, too slow... AMS is Developed and Owned by Keesdewit But where is KEES now? He didn't update the nodes. Please update nodes for AMS. Thank you. Just Sayin, AG18 Go back filling shelves or flipping burgers. Seen your language usage you belong to the low class society. We need new coders because we are doing so well. When business grows you need more employees. Good luck flipping burgers again tomorrow. At least you found a place where you feel appreciated. About AMS, yes I own a successful coin thats listed on major exchanges. Wish you could say the same, don't you? I'll bet you can't even write a single line of code yourself. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: keesdewit on February 29, 2016, 06:21:42 PM Translation: I don't make a penny with crying, so I'm pretty jealous. LOL , ;D ya tired of being in the Censored forum. Ya know , all of da Fly Guys must be broke, cause ya whine about money in 1 out of every 5 posts. Let me ask ya, why ya such a lousy coder that Vegasguy keeps hiring more programmers? Dis is from another coin ya started 1 Active network connection, too slow... AMS is Developed and Owned by Keesdewit But where is KEES now? He didn't update the nodes. Please update nodes for AMS. Thank you. Just Sayin, AG18 So there is another broken coin with near identical code? Broken? Identical code? Did you even look at the code? Nothing broken, runs just fine on Yobit, Bittrex, C-CEX. 44 connections on the server daemon: http://www.amsterdamblockchain.info/ Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: siameze on February 29, 2016, 06:48:44 PM Translation: I don't make a penny with crying, so I'm pretty jealous. LOL , ;D ya tired of being in the Censored forum. Ya know , all of da Fly Guys must be broke, cause ya whine about money in 1 out of every 5 posts. Let me ask ya, why ya such a lousy coder that Vegasguy keeps hiring more programmers? Dis is from another coin ya started 1 Active network connection, too slow... AMS is Developed and Owned by Keesdewit But where is KEES now? He didn't update the nodes. Please update nodes for AMS. Thank you. Just Sayin, AG18 So there is another broken coin with near identical code? Broken? Identical code? Did you even look at the code? Nothing broken, runs just fine on Yobit, Bittrex, C-CEX. 44 connections on the server daemon: http://www.amsterdamblockchain.info/ I was asking out of curiousity is all. FLY is still broken on YoBit - One cannot deposit/withdraw, etc. I was wondering if ti was coming back to YoBit. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on April 01, 2016, 04:05:56 AM Ok guys the moment many of you have been waiting for.... http://www.walletbootstraps.com/ Now the site is in a very basic form, and there is still a ton of work to be done on it. But I wanted to show you a general idea what it will look like. It will not just be wallet bootstraps. With a subscription you will have the option to be emailed once the wallets of your choice have been updated. For example lets say you want to be updated everytime fly gets a wallet update, then you will pay a small subscription fee in fly, and then you will be emailed the second a wallet is released for fly , with a link in your email to download it. The site ONLY accepts fly as payment for all subscriptions. This will cause the price of fly to rise as fly is required to purchased any of the services on the site. Vegas Makes Ya Wander , how dumb people is? Vegas site http://www.walletbootstraps.com charge 10 flycoins fer da link While these Guys give it away fer Free. http://CryptoChainer.com Kiklo's Bootstrap.dat & Blockchain Snapshot for Proof of Stake Coins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378653.msg14024451#msg14024451) LMFAO, Maybe Vegas will start chargin Flycoins before ya can use da bathroom next. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on April 02, 2016, 01:20:51 PM FLY has to be the biggest scam coin ever created.
Vegas has the nerve to call it innovation when its nothing but blatant greed. Nobody in their right mind would touch this joke coin. Team Fly take over 10% of every single stake from every holder Team Fly take a disgusting chunk out of every transaction on the network and pass it off as a 'transaction fee' to secure the future of the coin. So the brilliant vegas created a coin where everyone on the network pays him for every transaction and thinks that nobody will notice. Has any DEV in history ever tried such a blatant scam coin? So not only do Team FLY already hold the vast majority of the coin through a really dodgy distribution scam, and I mean really dodgy. Now they are trying to sucker people into buying this 'pay us for everything' coin by offering another paid service to upload wallet bootstraps. Why would anyone pay these frauds for something that is completely free all over the net. So why is he doing it when it cannot possibly work? Because Vegas thinks he is smarter than everyone else. Its that simple. He cannot accept that his scam coin isnt working so he is trying desperately for another angle. This team of crypto experts actually think this is going to work, that people will start buying FLY, knowing they will not be able to use it without the vagas tax taking nearly all of it because they said so, just so they can pay him even more for free wallet bootstraps. Its just laughable. Once you get suckered into buying this coin, you cannot use it without paying team FLY over and over again, for anything, ever. You cannot sell it without paying them first, you cannot send it to a friend without paying them first. Its no wonder the only people left posting in his moderated scam thread are team fly members and a few paid shills trying to lure in unsuspecting noobs that have no idea how crypto works. Team FLY is a disgusting pack of humans. All of them are in on it. I had some sympathy for a few of them early but they have had ample opportunity to show some backbone and morals by now if they had any. Sometimes the most poisonous people come disguised as friends and this is Vegas and his crew of scammers to a tee. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51x%2Bkta%2B38L._SX382_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: SpiralOut on April 04, 2016, 07:46:59 AM So glad I got the hell out of FLY before Vegas could get his greedy hands on my coins. I was lucky enough to see that coming and dump the shit before he decided it was a good idea to tax every transaction and feed his greedy pockets from the stakes of every wallet while he was at it.
Never been so relieved to get out of a coin, I pity anyone who holds it now and is being held to ransom by team FLY. It is pretty funny when you think about the nerve of these guys, What about XDE2 his latest scam? How many devs could start a new coin, premine the hell out of it, then create super wallets only for Team FLY members that stake more than the rest of the community? They would get laughed off bitcointalk as massive scammers.. Well thats exactly what they are. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on April 11, 2016, 08:47:11 PM Anyone wonder about Team Fly Morals.
Dey don't have any. Dis is what dey do : !!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!! Poor guy, moderated again? Keep on going and we will freeze your account. When dey had the below zapped from dis Forum, da UnCensored Version. Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted. Quote LOL Fuck man can someone please just give me an .exe file for the new wallet. I still can't open it with anything. I disabled virus, etc and still nothing. Man please!!! I'm losing out on stakes FFS. thankyou. Don't worry, staking isn't working. AG18 Is Any of Ya Dumb enough to trust dis batch of Liars & Thugs? Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on May 11, 2016, 07:36:54 AM So now its official we are on Cryptopia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is more big news: Drastic POS % changes! We will stay with 24 hour min stake time. Here is the changes that take effect on block 67000 Standard wallet now 500%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gold wallet: 625% Silver wallet: 612.5% Platinum : 1000% So if there EVER was a time to accumulate xde2 , its NOW. We are not promising how long this pos rate will last. Weeks? Months? As stated originally it can be changed at anytime!! Those fortunate enough to hold xde and want to sell a coin or two, I would start at .07 btc as there will be massive demand because of pos rates! Vegas Gotta admire the balls of these guys really. Pretty shameless that they have now decided to stake the biggest premine in alt coin history at 1000% while expecting anyone new to buy into this crap and stake at half that rate. Massive demand, my ass. The only orders will come from them making fake buys or poor suckers that cant see the truth of the distribution due to them moderating their thread. Just more ammo for the Vegas shame file. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on May 30, 2016, 07:59:23 PM Quote XDE2 / BTC market is closing The owner of this coin is accusing us of theft because of issues with one of his other coins wallets (FLY), we now deem all coins from this developer a security risk and have no option but to delist XDEII, Please close all open orders and withdraw ALL your XDEII before 15/06/16, Thanks Quote FLY / BTC market is closing Due to wallet issues we are no longer solvent in FLY, Please contact support to withdraw your coins ASAP Quote DMD / BTC market is closing New DMD wallet does not seem to work on our system, Please close all open orders and withdraw your coins before 05/06/2016 Vegas showin off his lack of people skills with Cryptopia (an dey bent over backwards with dose constant wallet updates.) CrazyIvan, spouting off about slandering cryptopia for diamond dev failures. Maybe dey should focus more of their energy on fixin their crappy wallet code, than slandering the Good Name of others. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on June 16, 2016, 06:59:36 AM Dear cryptopia, that you opened financial stats of one single private user is a crime itself. This is unacceptable and absolutely horrible for ur business reputation. Never saw this in my whole trading career from somewhere. All exchanges have no problem with it, if customers are unfriendly or even "blame" (ur words) exchanges for their doing. But its never acceptable to hurt the discretion of a single user. What u did is more crime than maybe one is crying, that you fouled. edit: I can cry as a customer my opinion, but you as a financial institute are not allowed to hurt human rights!!!! Even if you have maybe right, and could prove it, but to open private trades is really a horrible crime! You know, that your exchange survive cause discretion? I am not here to blame someone or I never told, that you are a scammer or a thief. But you absolutely went wrong right now! Greetz Dear Vegas, Lied on them, like he does most of da time. He lied to igotspots, when he made death threats toward him, and pretend he did not know who did it. In my book , that was a crime. He lied in the last fly forum, saying someone threatened him and his wife, again a LIE, He was going to have dat person brought to justice, Ya ain't heard nothing else about it. LIE. He Lies and da weak minded follow, he spent days having my old posts deleted as his only vengeance against hearing da truth. He is a Psycho. Cryptopia defended their honor cause de Jackass know as VegasGuy had to keep lying for Marketing. Ya metamorphin is a minion , so ya can't be trusted. Team Fly is really just da most Petty group of flimflam artists bctalk has to offer. At least ya #1 at somethin. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on June 19, 2016, 12:07:47 PM Dont know why Vegas would want this deleted..
You conveniently forgot to mention, that your hero Vegas the honest business man took all of the swapped ROS coins that people sent him for FLY and dumped them on the ROS market. I am pretty sure that wasn't part of the advertised swap process. Quick, delete this post before anyone here sees what he did. Seems only the paid sock puppets are allowed to post in the fly scam thread. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on June 20, 2016, 02:29:42 AM https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Forum/Thread/676
Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: elgimpo on June 20, 2016, 07:44:05 AM I thought the whole purpose of the special staking wallets and the premine for your team was to pay for ongoing development. You argued this for weeks. Now you are taking from the community wallet and sending to hard coded team wallet addresses too. Seriously, dont you guys have enough of the supply already? You're absolutely right, good on you for asking the hard questions. No surprise the post was deleted. Team FLY is now stealing from the community wallet. Busted again. Proof of scammery: http://xde2.dnsalias.com/tx/d7e7892783c85d74ac704761764740555baaeb804f343f21aa6a906aeee11aec That is just the first of many transactions that is going straight to a Team FLY wallet, listed in the source as Platinum1. Gee Wizz, I wonder who that is? https://github.com/CoinProjects/XDECoin/blob/7c8911b8b86d5112987b134d04c3dbb6930e97c6/src/walletlevels.cpp Blockchains dont lie Vegas. Team of experts exposed again. Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on June 21, 2016, 12:23:16 AM @ VegasGuy,
How does it feel to have Ya post zapped? You can repost ya Lies, and I leave the next one, so people can watch your lying skillz at work. What a Maroon? LMFAO AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on June 21, 2016, 12:26:26 AM Hello mates, i have tried to import the key the new wallet. Thats is impossible but it possible to import the key with a old wallet version. I have tested it. The balance will appear. However it is impossible to moving the coins...the tx generation has a big error. I think this error come from the zero fee. I have also exchanges keys converted to normal keys. But that works Nevertheless as not. Best Regards Christian Note ....it was only a try to help. And Ya did Help, Ya Proved the Cryptopia Guys were telling the truth 100%. Which is why da scammer den said: So guys we need to move past old news. I ask respectfully that we move on. Vegas Cover up da Lies Vegas, Hurry and Cover up da Lies. Just Sayin, AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: vegasguy on June 22, 2016, 05:45:54 PM After you delete this post, I will repost it as many times as it takes. As I am retired , I have all day long.
http://www.bitcoinlasvegas.net/files/proof.png Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: Argon18 on June 23, 2016, 03:59:59 AM After you delete this post, I will repost it as many times as it takes. As I am retired , I have all day long. LOL, i zapped 1 post to give ya a taste of ya own medicine, its not like, i setup an auto delete by screenname like ya did. If ya gonna post , at least post where people can read ya lies . Dat crap you posted is too small to read, ya can post here, but only ya posts , if you want the posts from dos jackasses to stay, where they claim ya da messiah , dey have da post it themselves, not be autocopied in ya posts like above. Retired is that a code word for out of work. That would explain your scams, ya need da money and turned to a life of scamin. AG18 Title: Re: FLYCOIN & XDEII Forums, Da UnCensored Versions Post by: TripleHeXXX on June 23, 2016, 04:49:54 AM Deleted posts you say? Have I got a treasure trove for you.
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Changed your mind yet or do I need to post more data, trade history perhaps? I'll be waiting by the phone for Interpol's call. Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote I don't give a fuck what you think I sound like. This lying scamming piece of shit is intentionally lying about not just his own coin, but about our site and actions, and I'm calling him out for being a lying scamming sack of shit. If you don't like that? Don't use my site, tell other people not to use my site. I don't give a fuck, if the alternative is letting scammy lying sacks of shit and the douchebags that enable that bullshit on my site then fuck that. Don't want you there in the first place. Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote No seriously, if you think what he is doing and saying is OK and you support him and his coin and their scammy shit, then why the fuck would I want to be taken seriously by you? Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Don't use Cryptopia, continue to support a scam coin like FLY and its team. You will not be missed. Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote All locking an account does is prevent access to the site and its services. All balances are still in tact, audited and accounted for and can be retrieved. If you contact support with withdraw addresses your coins can and will be sent to you where the networks will allow it (I.E. We can't send you your FLY) Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote keep deleting posts vegasguy, you wouldn't want people to realize you're a scammy lying piece of shit now would you. Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote I can post an entire audit of your entire account, every deposit for every coin, every withdraw, every tip, every transfer, every mined block, every reward, every trade. You are claiming we have stolen 0.5 BTC from you. You have done so without a time stamp, without ANY information. Just a screenshot of what could be the network working legitimately. Unconfirmed coins. Wow. Conveniently right as you desperately try to cover up your lies and incompetence. I guess it makes sense that lies beget lies and now you're clutching at straws. Trust? You've broken that trust. Anyone that doesn't see that and continues to deal with you I guess deserves whatever shitfest you get them into. And damaging for our business? You don't even know what our business is. Do you think I give a fuck that calling you a filthy lying piece of shit scamtard means certain people wont come and use my sight? We're not trying to cater to everyone, that would be stupid. We're one of the few left doing what we do for the love of crypto not trying to chase some bullshit buzzword hype train, or faked volume or profit. We're not trying to cater to everyone, if you don't like how our exchange works, go make your own and service the market you think isn't being provided, that's exactly what we want to see, more sites and crypto adoption. But lying scamming incompetent assholes like you? We don't care for that. Your dev explaining the problem with the coin: Thanks a lot for the explanation, I already subscribed a ticket in Cryptopia asking for my coins. But to be honest, this doesn't make sense. I would think that the developers would make a way on how to transfer the balance from the long addresses to new ones, so you guys don't run out of FLY. Vegas, what is going on? where TEAM FLY is? where are the 3 developers? This just doesn't make any sense. Something is missing here. its a little less complicated than all of that. when you send a transaction to an address you sign the transaction with the address its being sent from. there is a bug in the code to send a transaction FROM a long address to a short address and sometimes the signing fails. which makes the transaction creation fail. new tech with second addresses evidently had a few bugs in it. This is why the coins are stuck. There is currently a fix being worked on. You contradicting your dev: Guys Griffith can solve this. Lets give it some time. Ok what I do know is I was able to withdraw the 300 fly I bought, and the wallet created a return change address at cryptopia and all funds where sent there. So Im not exactly sure what the issue is. Here is the cryptopia wallet addy: http://fly.dnsalias.com/address/FKpLUxbCw1oRpZFRQfmLbm3pTwfDsQTiVM Vegas You very weirdly interpreting us saying we would wait for you to fix it before we could turn on withdraws as us admitting we could send people their coins: Bottom line, Cryptopia JUST admitted the wallet works and they CAN send funds. So the right thing to do is to bring the wallet back online and give fly users 10 days to withdraw. Then they can delist us. There is no reason this cannot happen. Vegas You accusing us of stealing use funds: So is everyone ok with Cryptopia stealing your funds? Please post here your thoughts. To my users, I am already 10 steps ahead of him. So all that will happen is he will wreck his reputation by pulling this. He wont get our funds. Youll see. Vegas You admitting the wallet is fucked: I just received my withdrawal from Cryptopia via a support ticket, 1400+ FLY. Thanks for the support Adam, this coin / wallet has been a clusterf--k for all involved. Tried to do some innovative things that just didn't work out. Hopefully things are now headed in the right direction. Adam is paying out to everyone. The wallet has been a mess. I dont deny that. Now that all the antidump features are removed, things will run more smooth. Vegas You admitting we're not to blame and haven't done anything wrong: There may have been a tiny amount still stuck in those long addresses. I have offered to make good on this if they can give me a list. Cryptopia said they will take care of it. I cant, as I have no information on how much is stuck and with who, and the funds are in the Cryptopia wallets, not mine. Anyway its not about blame. In the end Cryptopia made good, and sent thousands of fly out to users that requested. So I dont want to start a circus here again. Adam and I have agreed not to have fly on Cryptopia anymore, so in my mind thats a closed issue. I have already moved on. Vegas Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Jesus Christ could you flip flop any fucking harder? Not that people will be able to tell with all the posts you delete. So let me get this clear one last time. You can post attacks, but if we stop defending ourselves, you will consider it over? Unfortunately I don't consider it over, and I don't think this is "bad for both parties" I do think it's very bad for you however... Now this is your last chance. Come clean, admit that you're incompetent and not fit to develop a coin. Admit that you caused every problem with FLY (Notice how those coins we posted the private keys for haven't moved yet? Is everyone here just really honest? Or is the coin fucking broken like we've been saying this whole time?). Admit that you knowingly lied about us stealing any of your bitcoin and that you falsified your "evidence". Come clean and this ends here, and I wont need to post any further data. Continue to lie about us and I WILL post ALL the data I have to clear our name. Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote This ends when you admit your lies. You refuse to admit that you lied about Cryptopia stealing your bitcoin? Then I refuse to back down. If your next post is not coming clean on everything so far then my next post is ALL of the data I have on you. Call whatever the fuck authorities you want. |
