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Title: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 25, 2013, 08:43:43 PM
Posted with instruction by Psy

I am offering a cheap service for Bitcointalk members. I will find details on who your looking for. Fees are very low and payment is after the details are provided. This way you need not pay anything upfront, however payment must be made immediately after. I'm not known on this forum, therefor I will trust you to pay after I transmit the details until I build up some rep. All subjects searched must be in the US and be 18+. I will not search celebrities, Wall Street Powerhouses, Law Enforcement, or athletes, or anyone that can get me in a lot of trouble!


Introductory Offer:

Comprehensive Report:  $25 or 1.403 btc (or whatever the current equivelent of the USD price is)

Features:

- Partial Social security number (545-55-xxxx)
- DOB
- Criminal records if available
- Real Property Owned & Full Info on ownership & details, + previous property sales
- Relatives and some of their info
- Phone numbers
- Associated emails + social networking sites
- Employment
- Current address and address history
- Neighbors and their contact info
- And more!

Custom Report ??
Need an IP reversed or email searched or anyJust to reiterate everyone, you only pay after delivery, however if I deliver and you don't pay, I never do a job for you again. I'll trust you first and give you the results before you pay a dime. But if I put my time into it and give you the verified (I verify it through manual work) info, please do the right thing and pay.

Bonus

Something I'm working on -is the following:

For Just $10 a month you get:


-   1 free skip each month
-   News & Law Updates about collections and skiptracing.
-   Tons of Skiptracing articles to hone your skills in locating debtors
-   Tons of education debt collector articles to bring in a bigger bonus and make you the best collector on the floor
-   A community of like minded individuals looking to socialize and learn with


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Vod on January 25, 2013, 11:02:29 PM
I will not search celebrities, Wall Street Powerhouses, Law Enforcement, or athletes, or anyone that can get me in a lot of trouble!

Are you saying what you are doing is illegal?

From what I know of private investigation (I bought an online course but never took it) you only have access to the same information/tools as anybody else - nothing special.  If this information is public, how could you get into trouble?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Third Way on January 25, 2013, 11:58:39 PM
I will not search celebrities, Wall Street Powerhouses, Law Enforcement, or athletes, or anyone that can get me in a lot of trouble!

Are you saying what you are doing is illegal?

From what I know of private investigation (I bought an online course but never took it) you only have access to the same information/tools as anybody else - nothing special.  If this information is public, how could you get into trouble?

Maybe their service goes above and beyond?   ;)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: kakobrekla on January 26, 2013, 03:56:23 AM
How much for a full report on yourself?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 26, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
How much for a full report on yourself?

On yourself or myself? lol

On yourself, I'll do it for free for now, for rep.

As for the people as the legalities, are you need to do is tell me you have full intent of pursuing the person legally and then what I do is legal. Simple as that. If you tell me that you're going to axe murder the person in their sleep, then it's illegal. So tell me you want to pursue them legally and it's legal. I thought I said all this already.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: organofcorti on January 26, 2013, 01:10:06 PM
How much for a full report on Pirateat40?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tarrant_01 on January 26, 2013, 01:38:36 PM
I've been looking for someone that I sold a computer to with an agreed payment plan.  About two months after sending, he moved and disappeared.  Would you be able to help?  Would you confirm his new place of residence?  I don't think the information on the whitepages is correct. 


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 26, 2013, 02:04:33 PM
I will not search celebrities, Wall Street Powerhouses, Law Enforcement, or athletes, or anyone that can get me in a lot of trouble!

Are you saying what you are doing is illegal?

From what I know of private investigation (I bought an online course but never took it) you only have access to the same information/tools as anybody else - nothing special.  If this information is public, how could you get into trouble?

What I'm doing is not illegal, provided the right intent is said to me about why they want the info. So if someone wanted to look up a celebrity, I wouldn't do it as I wouldn't believe the person would have the intent upon pursuing them legally. And the information is not public. It's not the same tools as everyone has.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 26, 2013, 02:06:31 PM
I've been looking for someone that I sold a computer to with an agreed payment plan.  About two months after sending, he moved and disappeared.  Would you be able to help?  Would you confirm his new place of residence?  I don't think the information on the whitepages is correct. 

PM me with his details, I can do that no problem. Even help you collect on it for a slight fee.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tarrant_01 on January 26, 2013, 03:04:01 PM
PM'd.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on January 26, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
For what it's worth, I took the OP up on his offer for a free personal report. It was fascinating to see the names of people I've worked with years ago when I was living in America, and even some old email addresses I had that I had completely forgotten about. Some of the information is a bit misdirected, but I think that has something to do with my bizarre and reckless history of registering companies on a whim and never using them, and coming to Korea at 20 and never going back to the USA. Other than that, I would recommend this user's services if I needed basic information or a list of kin etc. Very good and very fast.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 26, 2013, 03:36:10 PM
For what it's worth, I took the OP up on his offer for a free personal report. It was fascinating to see the names of people I've worked with years ago when I was living in America, and even some old email addresses I had that I had completely forgotten about. Some of the information is a bit misdirected, but I think that has something to do with my bizarre and reckless history of registering companies on a whim and never using them, and coming to Korea at 20 and never going back to the USA. Other than that, I would recommend this user's services if I needed basic information or a list of kin etc. Very good and very fast.

Happy to provide. Normally, I'd go through all the information and manually call people and companies (blocked #), and solicit information from them to get the correct details on you etc, but since this was a free report, I just gave you the details. It would be more accurate if I put the work into it. Anyway, glad you liked it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on January 26, 2013, 09:39:24 PM
What info do you need to get the comprehensive report?  Just their name?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 26, 2013, 09:54:22 PM
What info do you need to get the comprehensive report?  Just their name?

Well depends on the name. How common it is, etc? A name, approx age age and location would be much more helpful.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tarrant_01 on January 27, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
I've used his service twice now and it's really scary at how fast he is at getting information. If you've been looking for someone, the $25 introductory fee is worth it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 27, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
I've used his service twice now and it's really scary at how fast he is at getting information. If you've been looking for someone, the $25 introductory fee is worth it.

Thanks, it's been a pleasure working with you. Look forward to future cases. The last case you gave me was definitely a challenge!!


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: grue on January 28, 2013, 03:16:37 AM
can you do people in canada?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 28, 2013, 04:01:06 PM
can you do people in canada?

It depends on what you want. It's more of a challenge for me. What info do you want and what info do you have?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 28, 2013, 06:33:14 PM
Just to reiterate everyone, you only pay after delivery, however if I deliver and you don't pay, I never do a job for you again. I'll trust you first and give you the results before you pay a dime. But if I put my time into it and give you the verified (I verify it through manual work) info, please do the right thing and pay.

Something I'm working on, and I'll give 1 vouch copy (you get a free months membership), is the following:

For Just $10 a month you get:


-   1 free skip each month. Whether this is a license plate reverse, full comprehensive (with assets and criminal) person report, etc. If we can't find it, you get another skip at no charge!
-   News & Law Updates about collections and skiptracing.
-   Tons of Skiptracing articles to hone your skills in locating debtors
-   Tons of education debt collector articles to bring in a bigger bonus and make you the best collector on the floor
-   A community of like minded individuals looking to socialize and learn with
-   The hottest debt buying deals, some posted exclusively here and no where else![/li][/list]


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: bitfarmer on January 29, 2013, 01:10:55 AM
Can you find Satoshi Nakamoto? :D


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 29, 2013, 02:57:10 PM
Can you find Satoshi Nakamoto? :D

Done - Satoshi Nakamoto is the pseudonymous person or group of people who designed and created the original Bitcoin software, currently known as Bitcoin-Qt. And yes I could probably find the people that created bitcoin. I've done similar jobs for other companies but the pay was high and the job was tedious. So I won't :)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Lethn on January 29, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
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As for the people as the legalities, are you need to do is tell me you have full intent of pursuing the person legally and then what I do is legal. Simple as that. If you tell me that you're going to axe murder the person in their sleep, then it's illegal. So tell me you want to pursue them legally and it's legal. I thought I said all this already.

Sounds a lot like internet stalking to me and I don't really approve of it being done considering you get enough trouble from it happening with random people on the internet never mind being paid for it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 29, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
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As for the people as the legalities, are you need to do is tell me you have full intent of pursuing the person legally and then what I do is legal. Simple as that. If you tell me that you're going to axe murder the person in their sleep, then it's illegal. So tell me you want to pursue them legally and it's legal. I thought I said all this already.

Sounds a lot like internet stalking to me and I don't really approve of it being done considering you get enough trouble from it happening with random people on the internet never mind being paid for it.

Well, you don't have to do it. But skiptracing is a valid profession. If someone steals money from you or scams you and you can't find them, what do you do? Just sit there and be scammed?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on January 29, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
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As for the people as the legalities, are you need to do is tell me you have full intent of pursuing the person legally and then what I do is legal. Simple as that. If you tell me that you're going to axe murder the person in their sleep, then it's illegal. So tell me you want to pursue them legally and it's legal. I thought I said all this already.

Sounds a lot like internet stalking to me and I don't really approve of it being done considering you get enough trouble from it happening with random people on the internet never mind being paid for it.

Free market.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on January 29, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
I'll take the vouch membership.  I need to sell some debt (and I have a drivers license pic).


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 29, 2013, 11:15:24 PM
I'll take the vouch membership.  I need to sell some debt (and I have a drivers license pic).

You got it. Please go here: http://thecollectorsdomain.com/

Register and I'll approve you with VIP. Keep in mind, there are only some forum articles, but... your membership enables you to a free skip in the US.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on January 29, 2013, 11:35:15 PM
I'll take the vouch membership.  I need to sell some debt (and I have a drivers license pic).

You got it. Please go here: http://thecollectorsdomain.com/

Register and I'll approve you with VIP. Keep in mind, there are only some forum articles, but... your membership enables you to a free skip in the US.
I reg'd!  Also, I already have an idea for who I want to do the investigation with.  PM'ing you now.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 30, 2013, 01:56:26 AM
I'll take the vouch membership.  I need to sell some debt (and I have a drivers license pic).

You got it. Please go here: http://thecollectorsdomain.com/

Register and I'll approve you with VIP. Keep in mind, there are only some forum articles, but... your membership enables you to a free skip in the US.
I reg'd!  Also, I already have an idea for who I want to do the investigation with.  PM'ing you now.

PM me on my forum.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on January 30, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
I'll take the vouch membership.  I need to sell some debt (and I have a drivers license pic).

You got it. Please go here: http://thecollectorsdomain.com/

Register and I'll approve you with VIP. Keep in mind, there are only some forum articles, but... your membership enables you to a free skip in the US.
I reg'd!  Also, I already have an idea for who I want to do the investigation with.  PM'ing you now.

PM me on my forum.
What's your username?  I don't see tldoctor on there.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 30, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
I'll take the vouch membership.  I need to sell some debt (and I have a drivers license pic).

You got it. Please go here: http://thecollectorsdomain.com/

Register and I'll approve you with VIP. Keep in mind, there are only some forum articles, but... your membership enables you to a free skip in the US.
I reg'd!  Also, I already have an idea for who I want to do the investigation with.  PM'ing you now.

PM me on my forum.
What's your username?  I don't see tldoctor on there.

Admin


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on January 30, 2013, 07:30:01 PM
WOW.

This guy is amazing.  I got a comprehensive report on a scammer, turns out he has like 100 felony convictions.

I have everything I could EVER want on this guy...  Wow.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on January 30, 2013, 07:32:30 PM
WOW.

This guy is amazing.  I got a comprehensive report on a scammer, turns out he has like 100 felony convictions.

I have everything I could EVER want on this guy...  Wow.

I have a feeling he's going to be quite busy here... and on BTCJam.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on January 30, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
WOW.

This guy is amazing.  I got a comprehensive report on a scammer, turns out he has like 100 felony convictions.

I have everything I could EVER want on this guy...  Wow.

I have a feeling he's going to be quite busy here... and on BTCJam.
Yeah.  This guy is gonna be really rich, really soon. 


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: John (John K.) on January 31, 2013, 05:40:29 AM
Awesome reviews. We need such services here dearly. I'll be sure to turn to you if I need any tracing.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 31, 2013, 01:06:20 PM
Awesome reviews. We need such services here dearly. I'll be sure to turn to you if I need any tracing.

Thank you, I appreciate it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Bitsky on January 31, 2013, 02:57:06 PM
You could earn a lot if you manage to make Pirate pay.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 31, 2013, 07:05:12 PM
You could earn a lot if you manage to make Pirate pay.

Not sure who that is.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on January 31, 2013, 07:06:39 PM
You could earn a lot if you manage to make Pirate pay.

Not sure who that is.
He stole ~ $1.2M of BTC from users through a ponzi scheme, and technically owes them something like $20M by now with the interest rates he advertised.  The SEC is looking into the situation, last I heard.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on January 31, 2013, 11:57:00 PM
You could earn a lot if you manage to make Pirate pay.

Not sure who that is.
He stole ~ $1.2M of BTC from users through a ponzi scheme, and technically owes them something like $20M by now with the interest rates he advertised.  The SEC is looking into the situation, last I heard.

Oh, Trendon Shavers. Some user was offering a bunch of money for his info quite a while ago. I found everything on the guy but the user recanted on paying me. I got his ssn, address, assets, credit, everything!


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on January 31, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
You could earn a lot if you manage to make Pirate pay.

Not sure who that is.
He stole ~ $1.2M of BTC from users through a ponzi scheme, and technically owes them something like $20M by now with the interest rates he advertised.  The SEC is looking into the situation, last I heard.

Oh, Trendon Shavers. Some user was offering a bunch of money for his info quite a while ago. I found everything on the guy but the user recanted on paying me. I got his ssn, address, assets, credit, everything!
Figures.  :\

Maybe someone else looking for it would pay for the same info.  I don't need it myself (wasn't involved in that situation).


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Bitsky on February 01, 2013, 08:35:57 AM
Oh, Trendon Shavers. Some user was offering a bunch of money for his info quite a while ago. I found everything on the guy but the user recanted on paying me. I got his ssn, address, assets, credit, everything!
He has been tracked by eg BCB and a few others, but I'm not sure how much information they have collected.
I'm willing to offer a percentage of the retrieved coins and I think others would too, what should quickly add up to tens of thousands of dollars for whoever can make him pay.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: John (John K.) on February 01, 2013, 01:54:11 PM
Oh, Trendon Shavers. Some user was offering a bunch of money for his info quite a while ago. I found everything on the guy but the user recanted on paying me. I got his ssn, address, assets, credit, everything!
He has been tracked by eg BCB and a few others, but I'm not sure how much information they have collected.
I'm willing to offer a percentage of the retrieved coins and I think others would too, what should quickly add up to tens of thousands of dollars for whoever can make him pay.

Same here. You could easily make a lot of money from this, if you manage to get him pay. I'm willing to offer a generous percentage of the retrieved coins too.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 01, 2013, 07:09:56 PM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: John (John K.) on February 02, 2013, 05:24:40 AM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.
Well, to put it into perspective, a small account like mine has over 500 BTC with him. I'm sure you'll make loads if you manage to team up with a collection agency in his area. 30% is good enough for me, and I'm sure many will agree. Let me know if you manage to do so.  :)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 02, 2013, 06:41:50 AM
Observe my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140625.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140625.0)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Bitsky on February 02, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
30% is good enough for me, and I'm sure many will agree. Let me know if you manage to do so.  :)
Getting 70% back is obviously better than getting 0% back.

Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol.
It's the result that counts :P


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 02, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Well, I have thousands of consumer accounts currently that we do pretty well on, some b2b accounts, but I'm hoping to expand my market to BTC too.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: BitcoinBasics on February 04, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
maybe join with btcjam as part of their verification process?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: wachtwoord on February 04, 2013, 10:13:55 PM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.
Well, to put it into perspective, a small account like mine has over 500 BTC with him. I'm sure you'll make loads if you manage to team up with a collection agency in his area. 30% is good enough for me, and I'm sure many will agree. Let me know if you manage to do so.  :)

I'll second this. As a pointer, he owes me way more and I'm also just a relatively small account.

I have no use for the info though as I cannot do anything myself.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 04, 2013, 10:49:48 PM
maybe join with btcjam as part of their verification process?

As part of what verification process? Sorry I'm lost.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Vod on February 05, 2013, 02:47:53 AM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.

I'm surprised the forum admins even let this thread stand.  I tried to raise money for a PI to find a million dollar thief, and I was PM warned by Theymos and had fake accusations of violence leveled against me.

Have you donated to the forum?   ;)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 03:02:07 AM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.

I'm surprised the forum admins even let this thread stand.  I tried to raise money for a PI to find a million dollar thief, and I was PM warned by Theymos and had fake accusations of violence leveled against me.

Have you donated to the forum?   ;)

Donated in what way? And what's wrong with my thread? Why were you warned specifically? Maybe it was in the way you tried to raise the money, not that fact that you wanted to hire a PI... idk, just a guess.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: John (John K.) on February 05, 2013, 03:05:41 AM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.

I'm surprised the forum admins even let this thread stand.  I tried to raise money for a PI to find a million dollar thief, and I was PM warned by Theymos and had fake accusations of violence leveled against me.

Have you donated to the forum?   ;)
AFAIK you were warned for promoting violence of sorts in your thread. I don't really remember it, but generally hiring a PI to find information on a thief to pursue him legally is allowed and encouraged.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: 01BTC10 on February 05, 2013, 03:09:41 AM
Is it only for US or you do canadian citizen too? Privacy law are much stricter here.

I need to find someone who owe me a huge electricity bill. I'm already working with a lawyer but he can't find him for me.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 03:20:17 AM
Is it only for US or you do canadian citizen too? Privacy law are much stricter here.

I need to find someone who owe me a huge electricity bill. I'm already working with a lawyer but he can't find him for me.

Canada is a little harder for me, but I can give it a shot.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Vod on February 05, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
I can provide the info for a price. But I don't think I could make him pay. He's a career scammer. It would take a lawsuit and then go after his assets post-judgment. He's not going to pay just voluntarily. Or maybe a few touch guys personally "urge" him to pay lol. I'm no where near his location though. All I can really do is get the info.

I'm surprised the forum admins even let this thread stand.  I tried to raise money for a PI to find a million dollar thief, and I was PM warned by Theymos and had fake accusations of violence leveled against me.

Have you donated to the forum?   ;)
AFAIK you were warned for promoting violence of sorts in your thread. I don't really remember it, but generally hiring a PI to find information on a thief to pursue him legally is allowed and encouraged.

Except I didn't promote any violence.  I made one joke, much like the one bolded above.    One mod took dislike and produced a made up threat.  When asked for proof by several people, the mod disappeared for a while until it died down.  The member that put the idea in that mod's head was banned shortly after for causing other problems.  <cough>Rarity<cough>

Sorry for going off topic in this thread. 


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 03:40:50 AM
Ok... Anyway, if you're interested in my services, let me know.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: stochastic on February 05, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
maybe join with btcjam as part of their verification process?

As part of what verification process? Sorry I'm lost.

BTCJam allows people to make p2p bitcoin loans. They do some sort of identity verification on the people taking out the loans, I think the suggestion is that you could contact BTCJam and offer your services to make the identity verification more thorough and in depth?

All that is really required for BTCjam to do a thorough identity check is to ask for a social security number from the borrower and request a credit history report from the credit reporting agencies.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 07:12:38 AM
maybe join with btcjam as part of their verification process?

As part of what verification process? Sorry I'm lost.

BTCJam allows people to make p2p bitcoin loans. They do some sort of identity verification on the people taking out the loans, I think the suggestion is that you could contact BTCJam and offer your services to make the identity verification more thorough and in depth?

Interesting, that's a good idea!


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 05, 2013, 05:10:01 PM
This is not a good service. This guy is passing out anyone's information to any one who asks . This shit is sketch it is bad for the bitcoin community and is an excellent way for identity thieves to get the information they need to scam and steal. F!@# this guy for giving my information to a bunch of tech kids.   >:(


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on February 05, 2013, 05:22:56 PM
This is not a good service. This guy is passing out anyone's information to any one who asks . This shit is sketch it is bad for the bitcoin community and is an excellent way for identity thieves to get the information they need to scam and steal. F!@# this guy for giving my information to a bunch of tech kids.   >:(
Who did he give it out to, and why?  What did you do that makes people want more information about you?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 06:47:12 PM
This is not a good service. This guy is passing out anyone's information to any one who asks . This shit is sketch it is bad for the bitcoin community and is an excellent way for identity thieves to get the information they need to scam and steal. F!@# this guy for giving my information to a bunch of tech kids.   >:(

"F!@# this guy"  Seriously?! Within the limits of the law, I provided requested information. Look at your last 3 reviews:

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=sublime5447

- While he may be who he claims to be (ask danieldaniel), he is rude, pushy, abusive, and tries to game the rating system. tries to get me to change my ratings. also seems very shady on multiple levels. be very careful.

- Shady as fuc* and troll to boot.

- Likely a scammer, does not want to provide information. Avoids questions about his identity and his intents.


And no, I don't pass out information to anyone that asks. I maintain the right to reject investigation requests. And many of my new clients would disagree with you.

See this is what we call an adult conversation. You should give it a try.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 05, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
I am no scammer and have a great reputation to back me up. I am a business person and i only do good deals. I have never stolen anything from anyone. I am a excellent business person with years of online selling experience and thousands of transactions to prove it. Any negative comments that were left about me are not based on trades and are personal attacks for differing ideas. You service is a breeding ground for scammers and identity thefts. Seriously people might not like it if they were on the receiving end of an unjustified investigation especially if it resulted in frozen accounts or unauthorized transactions. I don't know if legal action can be taken against your service but I am going to ask my lawyer. I dont think what you are doing is illegal just that it is not a good idea who is going to check you out that is my question. Why dont you release all of your information? that you gave to kids on irc to high school students about me. Release your criminal record and ssn and credit history and name and address in a public forum and i will quit bitching.   


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 05, 2013, 07:17:21 PM
To answer what did I do to get people interested in investigating me? I deal in paypal that is how I sell my coins on ebay and facebook and that is how i have bought my coins from the few suppliers I have. I am having to set up multiple accounts to get btc it is a real pain in the ass. I have set up a dwolla and mt gox and now a okpay. I always have pp and that is what i use. I know people dont like it, but i do have sellers that sell to me for PP and need more. When you say PP the community is so paranoid about everyone assumes you are a scammer. I sell for pay pal all day every day when I have coins. I have a system and dont get charged back or I guess i should say that i almost never get charged backed.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on February 05, 2013, 08:24:45 PM
To answer what did I do to get people interested in investigating me? I deal in paypal that is how I sell my coins on ebay and facebook and that is how i have bought my coins from the few suppliers I have. I am having to set up multiple accounts to get btc it is a real pain in the ass. I have set up a dwolla and mt gox and now a okpay. I always have pp and that is what i use. I know people dont like it, but i do have sellers that sell to me for PP and need more. When you say PP the community is so paranoid about everyone assumes you are a scammer. I sell for pay pal all day every day when I have coins. I have a system and dont get charged back or I guess i should say that i almost never get charged backed.
So you're a buyer of Bitcoins using multiple Paypal accounts?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 05, 2013, 08:37:07 PM
No I use one paypal account my paypal account the one I have always had.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
I am no scammer and have a great reputation to back me up. I am a business person and i only do good deals. I have never stolen anything from anyone. I am a excellent business person with years of online selling experience and thousands of transactions to prove it. Any negative comments that were left about me are not based on trades and are personal attacks for differing ideas. You service is a breeding ground for scammers and identity thefts. Seriously people might not like it if they were on the receiving end of an unjustified investigation especially if it resulted in frozen accounts or unauthorized transactions. I don't know if legal action can be taken against your service but I am going to ask my lawyer. I dont think what you are doing is illegal just that it is not a good idea who is going to check you out that is my question. Why dont you release all of your information? that you gave to kids on irc to high school students about me. Release your criminal record and ssn and credit history and name and address in a public forum and i will quit bitching.   

I've already released everything necessary. Look at my collection agency thread. I don't have a criminal record and I pay for nearly everything in cash or pre-paid cards. In fact if I had a criminal record like yourself, then I wouldn't have access to the tools available to me.  Btw, I never released your credit history or information in a public forum, just to those that claimed they were scammed by you.

But when I start scamming people, I will release my information here. And I highly doubt that even if I released all that information, you would quit bitching. I investigate about 200 people a day. With everyone single one of them, I had a legal request made to me to do so. You don't seem to have this great reputation to back you up from what I've seen, but that's just my opinion.

Bad things can come from my service, but also good things. Like people that have been scammed can get a little (legal) justice where they otherwise could not have.  Anyway, I'm done arguing this point.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: stochastic on February 05, 2013, 09:32:39 PM
I am no scammer and have a great reputation to back me up. I am a business person and i only do good deals. I have never stolen anything from anyone. I am a excellent business person with years of online selling experience and thousands of transactions to prove it. Any negative comments that were left about me are not based on trades and are personal attacks for differing ideas. You service is a breeding ground for scammers and identity thefts. Seriously people might not like it if they were on the receiving end of an unjustified investigation especially if it resulted in frozen accounts or unauthorized transactions. I don't know if legal action can be taken against your service but I am going to ask my lawyer. I dont think what you are doing is illegal just that it is not a good idea who is going to check you out that is my question. Why dont you release all of your information? that you gave to kids on irc to high school students about me. Release your criminal record and ssn and credit history and name and address in a public forum and i will quit bitching.   

I've already released everything necessary. Look at my collection agency thread. I don't have a criminal record and I pay for nearly everything in cash or pre-paid cards. In fact if I had a criminal record like yourself, then I wouldn't have access to the tools available to me.  Btw, I never released your credit history or information in a public forum, just to those that claimed they were scammed by you.

But when I start scamming people, I will release my information here. And I highly doubt that even if I released all that information, you would quit bitching. I investigate about 200 people a day. With everyone single one of them, I had a legal request made to me to do so. You don't seem to have this great reputation to back you up from what I've seen, but that's just my opinion.

Bad things can come from my service, but also good things. Like people that have been scammed can get a little (legal) justice where they otherwise could not have.  Anyway, I'm done arguing this point.

Don't you need a Permissible Purpose to obtain a 3rd party's credit report?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 10:05:53 PM
Yes we do. And collections is one. Pulling credit headers for investigation purposes provided the client has the intent to pursue the subject legally, is permissible enough.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 05, 2013, 10:18:37 PM
ya I do not and have not scammed anyone. I think there needs to be a third party that verifies the claims of your clients. I might be alone in this but I would imagine other members would like to have investigations only happen with confirmed scamming cases with a forum for the accused to defend themselves.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 05, 2013, 11:06:04 PM
ya I do not and have not scammed anyone. I think there needs to be a third party that verifies the claims of your clients. I might be alone in this but I would imagine other members would like to have investigations only happen with confirmed scamming cases with a forum for the accused to defend themselves.

But what happens if they go and hire someone else. I've made myself known here, but there are other investigators out there. I'm not the only one. Nothing is going to stop them from going elsewhere.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 05, 2013, 11:46:11 PM
I do understand i am a business person and i would not like to put anything in place that would limit the number of customers that use my services. If the discrepancy is over a bitcoin transaction there is no place to resolve the dispute outside of this and bitcoin-otc forums. The only methods of recovery would be force, extortion, or theft. So if someone is unwilling to undergo an evaluation then you could do your investigation no questions asked. If they are willing to prove their case then you leave them alone.     The tow company would love to tow every car but they only get to tow the illegally parked ones. I know you would like to investigate everyone but I believe you should only investigate the people that are doing wrong. I wanted to prove to the community that I am who I say I am. If I trusted you I might pay to have you verify my identity and give me a special icon as verified. I think you could make a lot more money doing that.
When you make a ton off of verifying people throw me some bitcoin. :)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: BCB on February 10, 2013, 03:18:00 PM
sublime5447 is not a scammer.

He may have very strong opinions that many people disagree with but to my knowledge he has never defrauded anyone.  And yes ssublime5447 and I have traded significant amounts of btc and ppusd.

Unfortunately in bitcoin with so many real scammers there is a palpable fear and paranoia and any one who is even the least bit suspect of being "sketchy" is guilty until proven innocent.

tldoctor, I find your services obviously very good and necessary, but did you know your client that requested sublime5447's info was not scammed by him and is actually a 14 year old junior high school student.   (sublime5447 did owe him a 2 btc bet which he eventually paid - but that was the extent of his "scamming")

I'm not sure what the legality of minors requesting this kind of information, and you releasing this information to a minor.  I guess if requesting personally identifying information from an investigater to recover a 40.00 bet is legal then you are clear.

just my 2c.



Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: John (John K.) on February 10, 2013, 06:33:12 PM
Off topic posts have been moved here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142379.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142381.0

Please continue the debate there and leave this thread on its rails.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 10, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
tldoctor: 1.5 BTC from me for the comprehensive and credit reports on Trendon Shavers from Mckinney, TX.
The 1.5 should cover your prices since you seem not to have updated your BTC prices on the OP.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on February 10, 2013, 07:14:44 PM
tldoctor: 1.5 BTC from me for the comprehensive and credit reports on Trendon Shavers from Mckinney, TX.
The 1.5 should cover your prices since you seem not to have updated your BTC prices on the OP.
It took this long for someone to ask?  :D


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 10, 2013, 09:00:16 PM
tldoctor: 1.5 BTC from me for the comprehensive and credit reports on Trendon Shavers from Mckinney, TX.
The 1.5 should cover your prices since you seem not to have updated your BTC prices on the OP.

Ya I don't update everyday. I'm very busy with my main job. Better just to look at the US dollar amount and convert. Well its not just about covering prices, but for the work done. I'll do it for 1.5 but no credit report on Trendon. I have my reasons on this particular file. I've already had one person have me to all the work, then said he will pay if it leads to money through a judgment. He was supposed to pay for the investigation. Its not my problem if he gets money or not. Idk...


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 10, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
Did you give any thought to my suggestion to start verifying people?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 10, 2013, 09:47:51 PM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on February 10, 2013, 09:49:32 PM
Did you give any thought to my suggestion to start verifying people?
Sublime - that debate is for the thread John split off.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 10, 2013, 11:21:31 PM
Sorry still learning the unspoken rule around here.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 11, 2013, 04:22:31 AM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 11, 2013, 04:23:39 AM
Ya, but I'm not sure how to get started in that. Someone else could do it and send me the searches and pay me.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 11, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: wachtwoord on February 11, 2013, 01:01:43 PM
Very good question.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 11, 2013, 08:00:48 PM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 11, 2013, 08:23:19 PM
Ya, but I'm not sure how to get started in that. Someone else could do it and send me the searches and pay me.

This sounds like a great idea! I think i will try and get a mod interested. It would be awesome if you could verify people, but there has to be a way to mark it. A big green check mark with identity verified. We can get rid of the ridiculous shoe on head pictures and sign holding pictures and hold up fingers and getting people more willing to deal.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 11, 2013, 09:38:48 PM
Posting in the forum is good, but if you could add that you were mt.gox verified, okay pay verified, paypal verified, tldoctor verified, and any others that would be great of course it would need a to be checked. As far as I am concerned the more information on who is who the better as long as it is safe. I have no need for anonymity but I can use a verified rating. 


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 11, 2013, 09:55:10 PM
That is just the point to me. There is no way to get the coin back, but I have dealt with a local BTC vendor for paypal and I feel alot more comfortable send when i know the guy and where he lives. You are right there is only one way to get the BTC back you will not get in in a court. You have to go to the guys house and demand it back. If I send for a couple thousand and you dont send. I know where to go. Just the threat will keep most people honest. That is why I find tldoctors service to be worthless as a recovery method, but valuable as a prevention method.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 11, 2013, 11:53:12 PM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.

So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 12, 2013, 12:09:40 AM
 
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.

So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!

This problem wouldnt happen if you stopped investigated and started verifying.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: organofcorti on February 12, 2013, 05:43:20 AM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.

So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!

Not necessarily. Someone might have paid extra to have exclusive access to the information in order to have first crack at whatever money Trendon Shavers has left.



Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 12, 2013, 06:04:55 AM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.

So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!

No, Shavers is not my client as I investigated him already. I don't intermingle. But its great of you to assume that and be rude about it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 12, 2013, 06:25:34 AM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.

So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!

Not necessarily. Someone might have paid extra to have exclusive access to the information in order to have first crack at whatever money Trendon Shavers has left.



Thank you! Finally someone that gets it... kind of. Who that person is, I can't say, but look at it this way. If TS owes 10 people $10,000. each My client brings TS to small claims and places a lien on his property after getting a writ of exon from the court. When TS mortgages or sells his property, the lien is paid off. But what if I assist the 9 others with the information and they get the lien first. Well then the 10th person on the list needs to wait until all others have been paid before they get paid. And then if there's no money left over, the 10th person on the lien, ends up getting no money for all the effort.

But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients. Trendon Shavers is a big scam artist... that being said, I'm willing to give some details, but not all. First come, first serve. I'm still willing to help out and give some details, but the first person that requests, gets the most. I'm not going to throw a client under the bus, because I can make more money from the other people that want to find him. That would be really shitty of me and I'm not going to do it. Trendon has never contacted me and I don't care how much money that scumbag offered me, I still wouldn't take him on as a client. Fact of the matter is, I own my business. I can take on new clients and deny prospective clients as I see fit.

I don't need peoples rude remarks like "So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!". This is my business and I try to run it morally well, but sometimes there will be problems like this. If this creates a problem for people, don't use my service. But don't also start assuming shit and being rude about it when you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not obligated to investigate someone because you offer me money.

So far, I don't believe (I could be wrong), that I have any unsatisfied clients. I work hard for all my clients, use the best tools at my disposal and manually verify all data I put on paper. Such as, calling all #'s found, investigating details with associates and relatives of the subject, calling the assessors office in various counties to verify the data I've found, etc. My clients are happy and I try to keep them happy (for future business). I can't and won't please everyone. Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down. Or maybe I'll do the search for them and then learn something about them and not take on any other business. But I absolutely will not throw one client under the bus, to make more money. I realize I am right now, but I don't have to give my reasons to you "Psy" about why I don't want to have you as a client. If I don't, just accept it and move on.

In closing, there are plenty of investigators out there. I'm very good at what I do and I believe I charge great rates for accurate data, but there are plenty of other investigators, possibly better than me that will do the job for you. So stop bitching about it and just contact someone else. This really shouldn't be a big deal that I won't provide requested details on someone. There's no reason to be rude about it. If you had just accepted it and moved on, I wouldn't mind taking you on as a client for searching someone else.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: RantinRave on February 12, 2013, 06:44:32 AM
You get information on Scarface Tommy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142233.0) and I'll personally deliver the bitcoins to you and couple shots are on me.

If this is just information you are going to get from intelifinder. Don't waste your time. If you have other resources. More power to you .. do your thing and you'll get paid.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 12, 2013, 06:51:57 AM
You get information on Scarface Tommy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142233.0) and I'll personally deliver the bitcoins to you and couple shots are on me.

If this is just information you are going to get from intelifinder. Don't waste your time. If you have other resources. More power to you .. do your thing and you'll get paid.

Thanks.

Scareface tommy was trying to sell to me earlier today. Is he a know scammer? why no Tags?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 12, 2013, 08:48:28 AM
You get information on Scarface Tommy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142233.0) and I'll personally deliver the bitcoins to you and couple shots are on me.

If this is just information you are going to get from intelifinder. Don't waste your time. If you have other resources. More power to you .. do your thing and you'll get paid.

Thanks.

I can do this no problem. My resources a quite better than some paid online source lol. Send me a pm request please with the information and I'll get to it as soon as I wake up, if I can ever get to sleep that is.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
1.7 BTC covers your price for the 2 reports. I'll pay it.
But only with the credit report. If you done it already for someone who didn't pay you only have some money to retrieve, not to lose.

1.7BTC is my offer for the comprehensive and credit reports.
Both or none.

There's a reason I can't get a credit report on that guy, it's not a matter of me not wanting to.

Do you want to tell us the reason you can't do a service you have listed, priced and someone is willing to pay, just because it involves a certain individual?

No actually I don't. But I'll say this... I have multiple clients. Sometimes things become a conflict of interest. That's all I'm prepared to say. I'm provided top service for people so far. Some things I will not do and won't get into specifics why. If that doesn't work for you, there are plenty of other investigators out there.

So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!

Not necessarily. Someone might have paid extra to have exclusive access to the information in order to have first crack at whatever money Trendon Shavers has left.



Thank you! Finally someone that gets it... kind of. Who that person is, I can't say, but look at it this way. If TS owes 10 people $10,000. each My client brings TS to small claims and places a lien on his property after getting a writ of exon from the court. When TS mortgages or sells his property, the lien is paid off. But what if I assist the 9 others with the information and they get the lien first. Well then the 10th person on the list needs to wait until all others have been paid before they get paid. And then if there's no money left over, the 10th person on the lien, ends up getting no money for all the effort.

But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients. Trendon Shavers is a big scam artist... that being said, I'm willing to give some details, but not all. First come, first serve. I'm still willing to help out and give some details, but the first person that requests, gets the most. I'm not going to throw a client under the bus, because I can make more money from the other people that want to find him. That would be really shitty of me and I'm not going to do it. Trendon has never contacted me and I don't care how much money that scumbag offered me, I still wouldn't take him on as a client. Fact of the matter is, I own my business. I can take on new clients and deny prospective clients as I see fit.

I don't need peoples rude remarks like "So, Trendon Shavers is your client and paid you more than any of us. Got it!". This is my business and I try to run it morally well, but sometimes there will be problems like this. If this creates a problem for people, don't use my service. But don't also start assuming shit and being rude about it when you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not obligated to investigate someone because you offer me money.

So far, I don't believe (I could be wrong), that I have any unsatisfied clients. I work hard for all my clients, use the best tools at my disposal and manually verify all data I put on paper. Such as, calling all #'s found, investigating details with associates and relatives of the subject, calling the assessors office in various counties to verify the data I've found, etc. My clients are happy and I try to keep them happy (for future business). I can't and won't please everyone. Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down. Or maybe I'll do the search for them and then learn something about them and not take on any other business. But I absolutely will not throw one client under the bus, to make more money. I realize I am right now, but I don't have to give my reasons to you "Psy" about why I don't want to have you as a client. If I don't, just accept it and move on.

In closing, there are plenty of investigators out there. I'm very good at what I do and I believe I charge great rates for accurate data, but there are plenty of other investigators, possibly better than me that will do the job for you. So stop bitching about it and just contact someone else. This really shouldn't be a big deal that I won't provide requested details on someone. There's no reason to be rude about it. If you had just accepted it and moved on, I wouldn't mind taking you on as a client for searching someone else.

Can a Lien for a Personal Debt Be Placed Upon Mortgaged Property in Texas? (http://www.ehow.com/info_12023749_can-lien-personal-debt-placed-upon-mortgaged-property-texas.html) (interesting read!)

Quote
A creditor on a personal debt can obtain a lien against a mortgaged property in Texas if the creditor follows the appropriate legal procedures. However, state law provides important protections for the mortgaged property, including placing significant restrictions on the enforcement of a lien against the mortgaged property, especially if the property is the debtor's primary personal residence.

FWIW, if anybody checks into my background, I want to be on record in saying that I thought them were my goats, and at night a billy resembles a doe. The case was dismissed due to the only witnesses being a rat, an owl, and a dozen sleeping chickens. And a spider.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Bitsky on February 12, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients.
Corrent me, but doesn't this offer a simple method for a scammer to protect himself? The scammer creates a sockpuppet account and uses it to hire and pay you. He gets information about himself, which at a first glance is pretty useless for him, but from that point on you refuse to give this information to others, something that can be quite valueable.

Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down.
Maybe you should start a partnership with russian debt collectors, lol. I'm sure many won't ask for the details as long as they get their money back.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 12, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients.
Corrent me, but doesn't this offer a simple method for a scammer to protect himself? The scammer creates a sockpuppet account and uses it to hire and pay you. He gets information about himself, which at a first glance is pretty useless for him, but from that point on you refuse to give this information to others, something that can be quite valueable.

Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down.
Maybe you should start a partnership with russian debt collectors, lol. I'm sure many won't ask for the details as long as they get their money back.

To be fair, the service being provided has been around long before the advent of Bitcoin, with literally 100's of them scattered across the US. The only thing different here is the accepting of bitcoins for payment and providing said service to the Bitcoiner niche. The service is even being provided at a discount for fellow bitcoiners. I'm sure that the utmost due diligence is preformed before conducting background checks, and sometimes a handful out of 1000's of requests having nefarious intent get through a crack.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: organofcorti on February 12, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
You get information on Scarface Tommy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142233.0) and I'll personally deliver the bitcoins to you and couple shots are on me.

If this is just information you are going to get from intelifinder. Don't waste your time. If you have other resources. More power to you .. do your thing and you'll get paid.

Thanks.

I can do this no problem. My resources a quite better than some paid online source lol. Send me a pm request please with the information and I'll get to it as soon as I wake up, if I can ever get to sleep that is.

Aren't you a paid online source?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 12, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients.
Corrent me, but doesn't this offer a simple method for a scammer to protect himself? The scammer creates a sockpuppet account and uses it to hire and pay you. He gets information about himself, which at a first glance is pretty useless for him, but from that point on you refuse to give this information to others, something that can be quite valueable.

Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down.
Maybe you should start a partnership with russian debt collectors, lol. I'm sure many won't ask for the details as long as they get their money back.

I guess, if someone want to go to that trouble. Never thought of it that way. If I find that to be true, I'll act accordingly.

Look guys, there's always pros and cons to this industry, and I try to run it morally based, but there's always going to be someone happy and someone pissed off. I can't do anything about that. There are plenty of more blackhat investigators that have no morals and only see the dollar sign. All I can do is run my business to the best of my ability. Sorry if that gives people grief, but you should probably direct your complaints to the more blackhat investigators as they'll investigate everyone, including their clients if paid enough. I'm here on this forum, but I'm not the only investigator. There are plenty more. If you want Trendon, just go to them and get whatever you want. Simple solution.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 12, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients.
Corrent me, but doesn't this offer a simple method for a scammer to protect himself? The scammer creates a sockpuppet account and uses it to hire and pay you. He gets information about himself, which at a first glance is pretty useless for him, but from that point on you refuse to give this information to others, something that can be quite valueable.

Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down.
Maybe you should start a partnership with russian debt collectors, lol. I'm sure many won't ask for the details as long as they get their money back.

To be fair, the service being provided has been around long before the advent of Bitcoin, with literally 100's of them scattered across the US. The only thing different here is the accepting of bitcoins for payment and providing said service to the Bitcoiner niche. The service is even being provided at a discount for fellow bitcoiners. I'm sure that the utmost due diligence is preformed before conducting background checks, and sometimes a handful out of 1000's of requests having nefarious intent get through a crack.

Thank you, much appreciated. I've gotten a lot of requests and about 75% I've worked and got paid on. The other 25% I haven't done investigations on. But yes, sometimes things get through the cracks and I can only do the best I can to avoid that.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SgtSpike on February 12, 2013, 10:13:07 PM
But the fact is, this person didn't pay me extra, but out of principle, I won't repeat an investigation on someone for two different clients.
Corrent me, but doesn't this offer a simple method for a scammer to protect himself? The scammer creates a sockpuppet account and uses it to hire and pay you. He gets information about himself, which at a first glance is pretty useless for him, but from that point on you refuse to give this information to others, something that can be quite valueable.

Maybe someone will offer me a lot of money to find someone they want to hurt or have no business finding and I'll turn them down.
Maybe you should start a partnership with russian debt collectors, lol. I'm sure many won't ask for the details as long as they get their money back.

I guess, if someone want to go to that trouble. Never thought of it that way. If I find that to be true, I'll act accordingly.

Look guys, there's always pros and cons to this industry, and I try to run it morally based, but there's always going to be someone happy and someone pissed off. I can't do anything about that. There are plenty of more blackhat investigators that have no morals and only see the dollar sign. All I can do is run my business to the best of my ability. Sorry if that gives people grief, but you should probably direct your complaints to the more blackhat investigators as they'll investigate everyone, including their clients if paid enough. I'm here on this forum, but I'm not the only investigator. There are plenty more. If you want Trendon, just go to them and get whatever you want. Simple solution.
There's a handy "Ignore" link below the names of the haters just to help keep your sanity around here.  ;)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: RantinRave on February 12, 2013, 11:01:45 PM
Quote from: sublime5447
Scareface tommy was trying to sell to me earlier today. Is he a know scammer? why no Tags?
[/quote

Because he just joined like a week ago and this was the first trade. Kinda make me angry that within a week he was able to post in the marketplace.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 12, 2013, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: sublime5447
Scareface tommy was trying to sell to me earlier today. Is he a know scammer? why no Tags?
[/quote

Because he just joined like a week ago and this was the first trade. Kinda make me angry that within a week he was able to post in the marketplace.


So he got you? right? Damn I am glad i didnt send. Seemed sketch to me. No online rep anywhere, no email attached, prices a little to good, and willing to work with multiple payment methods. Sorry that happened i hate seeing people get f!@#ed over.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: organofcorti on February 13, 2013, 02:04:59 AM
Hey tldoctor,

What happens if someone you investigate turns out to be someone you've already investigated for someone else? I'm just interested to see how you handle the conflict of interest. Does your contract allow you to renege if that happens? For example, if Scarface Tommy turns out to be Trendon Shaver?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 13, 2013, 05:21:55 PM
Hey tldoctor,

What happens if someone you investigate turns out to be someone you've already investigated for someone else? I'm just interested to see how you handle the conflict of interest. Does your contract allow you to renege if that happens? For example, if Scarface Tommy turns out to be Trendon Shaver?

Hasn't happened yet, but if it does, yes I'll renege. The person isn't paying for anything upfront anyway. I will offer a limited report like I tried in the case of trendon, but if the person doesn't agree to a limited report, then I won't.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 15, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
I've made a decision....

Trendon Shavers - A Free Contribution

you may see it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 15, 2013, 02:15:06 PM
I've made a decision....

Trendon Shavers - A Free Contribution

you may see it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0)

I wanted to pay for it to do just that. Thanks for doing it for free, even if it's not complete.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 15, 2013, 02:26:51 PM
I've made a decision....

Trendon Shavers - A Free Contribution

you may see it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0)

I wanted to pay for it to do just that. Thanks for doing it for free, even if it's not complete.

I could be wrong, but didn't you say, "both or neither"... as in you wanted the credit report too, or nothing? Only the client that made the purchase, got the full and complete version. Anyway, you're welcome.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 15, 2013, 02:39:39 PM
I've made a decision....

Trendon Shavers - A Free Contribution

you may see it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144321.0)

I wanted to pay for it to do just that. Thanks for doing it for free, even if it's not complete.

I could be wrong, but didn't you say, "both or neither"... as in you wanted the credit report too, or nothing? Only the client that made the purchase, got the full and complete version. Anyway, you're welcome.

Yes, I wanted the FULL info to post, and wasn't willing to pay for less than that.
You posted it for free. Courtesy mandates that I should thank you for releasing all that you were willing to release, no?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: SolarSilver on February 15, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Comprehensive Report:  $25 or 1.403 btc (or whatever the current equivelent of the USD price is)

I took the bait and put down BTC 1 for a full report and I must say I'm amazed what tldoctor was able to dig up

Not sure this would even be possible in Europe (too much privacy law ;-)

I've already put in a second request to trace another customer who used a stolen credit card

"I am SolarSilver and I approve this message" or whatever the disclaimer is :-)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raize on February 15, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
If I were to give you the name of someone who lived in the UK, would you be able to give me relevant info? I have a reasonable amount of info already, no financials. I was told by my lawyer I couldn't pursue debt collection as a US citizen against someone in the UK without dealing with what he called a "legal quagmire". Still, he owes me 22.5 BTC, so I'd be willing to deal with a small amount of "legal quagmire" even if I sold the debt to another UK citizen.

I assume you have contact info & pricing for the cheaper phone centers that will call folks for debt collection as well?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 15, 2013, 10:47:53 PM
If I were to give you the name of someone who lived in the UK, would you be able to give me relevant info? I have a reasonable amount of info already, no financials. I was told by my lawyer I couldn't pursue debt collection as a US citizen against someone in the UK without dealing with what he called a "legal quagmire". Still, he owes me 22.5 BTC, so I'd be willing to deal with a small amount of "legal quagmire" even if I sold the debt to another UK citizen.

I assume you have contact info & pricing for the cheaper phone centers that will call folks for debt collection as well?

I don't have any info on agencies that would call a UK debt... sorry. My agency doesn't have the licensing for that venture either. And I only work US cases. I could probably find some info out, but probably no more than you could by using google.

Wish I could be of better help.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on February 15, 2013, 10:58:12 PM
If I were to give you the name of someone who lived in the UK, would you be able to give me relevant info? I have a reasonable amount of info already, no financials. I was told by my lawyer I couldn't pursue debt collection as a US citizen against someone in the UK without dealing with what he called a "legal quagmire". Still, he owes me 22.5 BTC, so I'd be willing to deal with a small amount of "legal quagmire" even if I sold the debt to another UK citizen.

I assume you have contact info & pricing for the cheaper phone centers that will call folks for debt collection as well?

Do you have a use name or anything? I was scammed by a guy in the UK and have all of his personal info if it was the same guy I will share it with you.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raize on February 17, 2013, 02:36:46 AM
Do you have a use name or anything? I was scammed by a guy in the UK and have all of his personal info if it was the same guy I will share it with you.

bulanula (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11905) didn't fit the traditional model of a scammer. He's more like a guy that, if you give him a $100 bill for a $10 item, won't make change.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 17, 2013, 11:10:38 AM
Do you have a use name or anything? I was scammed by a guy in the UK and have all of his personal info if it was the same guy I will share it with you.

bulanula (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11905) didn't fit the traditional model of a scammer. He's more like a guy that, if you give him a $100 bill for a $10 item, won't make change.

There's more to it than that, Raize, and you know it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Raize on February 17, 2013, 06:09:28 PM
Yeah, I forgot the part where I also helped to temporarily cover his loss from the A1BITCOINPOOL "scam", the trolling he would do whereby he'd say he was paying in public and then his PMs would be entirely different, the fact that he complained about smart1985 getting his BTC-E account "banned" but it turns out he deleted it just to make smart look bad, and etc.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: XxionxX on February 18, 2013, 07:47:01 AM
Hello everyone, I just received a comprehensive report as well as a credit report from tldoctor. He was fast, polite, and made the process an easy one to complete. I highly recommend his services to anyone seeking these types of reports. When I say fast, I mean scary fast.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 18, 2013, 08:58:10 AM
Hello everyone, I just received a comprehensive report as well as a credit report from tldoctor. He was fast, polite, and made the process an easy one to complete. I highly recommend his services to anyone seeking these types of reports. When I say fast, I mean scary fast.

Thank you, I appreciate it :)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tacotime on February 19, 2013, 12:55:45 AM
I need somebody found, sent a PM.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on February 19, 2013, 09:01:08 AM
I need somebody found, sent a PM.

Person found. PM'ing you


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tacotime on February 20, 2013, 12:15:36 AM
I can confirm he found person I was looking for and a lot more information.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: foggyb on March 03, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
Eric's investigative service is excellent! Highly recommended for the sometimes-seedy bitcoin world.

I sent him a name and some other info, and he replied within hours with a lengthy report.

I now know what the mark eats for breakfast and how much toilet paper he uses....

Well not really! But close.  ;)

Thanks again Eric, I will be back.



Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 03, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
Eric's investigative service is excellent! Highly recommended for the sometimes-seedy bitcoin world.

I sent him a name and some other info, and he replied within hours with a lengthy report.

I now know what the mark eats for breakfast and how much toilet paper he uses....

Well not really! But close.  ;)

Thanks again Eric, I will be back.


Sometimes seedy?  You're very optimistic.  :D


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: johnniewalker on March 04, 2013, 09:46:05 AM
My thinking is OP registered w/one of those sites that offers you ALL public information on a person. Why use his service? Its must cheaper since its a 1 time thing. OP, I salute you. I wish I had thought of this first.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 04, 2013, 02:51:19 PM
My thinking is OP registered w/one of those sites that offers you ALL public information on a person. Why use his service? Its must cheaper since its a 1 time thing. OP, I salute you. I wish I had thought of this first.
In case you didn't notice, social security numbers are not public.  This guy actually does real investigation work, finding all the info he can about the person.  He goes as far as calling people that he's worked with/his family, from what I saw on my report.

He doesn't just go onto a website and type in someone's name.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 04, 2013, 08:31:14 PM
My thinking is OP registered w/one of those sites that offers you ALL public information on a person. Why use his service? Its must cheaper since its a 1 time thing. OP, I salute you. I wish I had thought of this first.
In case you didn't notice, social security numbers are not public.  This guy actually does real investigation work, finding all the info he can about the person.  He goes as far as calling people that he's worked with/his family, from what I saw on my report.

He doesn't just go onto a website and type in someone's name.

Thanks "danieldaniel". You're right and "johnniewalker" is partially right. I do use one of "a" service like "those". However, just to clarify, let me tell everyone what I do and how's its different than just getting a membership with spokeo, intellius, beenverified, etc.... and this is not to be cocky, just to show the difference.

- I have 7 years in litigation collections both against businesses and consumers alike.
- I have 10 years of tracking down people with the internet / phone and other methods.
- I've taught college type classes on the art of skiptracing and bill collecting and have supervised 3 skiptracing departments and collectively trained over 500 people in person type skiptracing.
- I've run my business since Nov 2009 and since then, have spent about 60 hours a week at it... half of which is comprised of just skiptracing.
- I've located thousand of individuals "intentionally" trying to hide themselves which has increased the revenue to a very noticeable level in my company and other companies I've worked for.
- The service I mainly use for skiptracing, I pay about $200 - $300 a month for (more or less), and then $75 for a different one.
- Both services I use, gives me a much higher quantity and more accurate results than any service online that a "consumer" can get. To be able to get the services I use, I couldn't have any criminal record on me, I had to have decent credit, my business had to be in operation for 2 years + and could not be a sole proprietorship, but an llp, llc, corp, etc., I had to have a commercial based office which they sent an auditor out to inspect the office and the security of it, and more!  Its not easy to get the services I have.
- The services I use are very powerful as they tap into your credit report data, ssn records, dmv, and tons of other sources.
- Finally, I take all the access I have and my education / experience in the field and combine them for my clients.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not trying to be vain, just to illustrate the differences between my service and some online look-up service.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tacotime on March 04, 2013, 10:43:02 PM
Still waiting on that credit report from you... otherwise satisfied with service. :)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 05, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
Still waiting on that credit report from you... otherwise satisfied with service. :)

Thanks, I'm glad your satisfied. As for the credit report, I already messaged you saying that while 9/10 I can get it, I wasn't able to pull the credit report on the subject. He/She had a block on it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on March 05, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
tldr has been removed from the pending scammer list. He has proven to be trust worthy.

If you find suspected or confirmed scams on the forum please post to MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST with links to relevant information. thanks


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tacotime on March 06, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
Still waiting on that credit report from you... otherwise satisfied with service. :)

Thanks, I'm glad your satisfied. As for the credit report, I already messaged you saying that while 9/10 I can get it, I wasn't able to pull the credit report on the subject. He/She had a block on it.

Oh, okay! For some reason I never got the e-mail, probably went to spam.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: johnniewalker on March 07, 2013, 02:50:14 AM
My thinking is OP registered w/one of those sites that offers you ALL public information on a person. Why use his service? Its must cheaper since its a 1 time thing. OP, I salute you. I wish I had thought of this first.
In case you didn't notice, social security numbers are not public.  This guy actually does real investigation work, finding all the info he can about the person.  He goes as far as calling people that he's worked with/his family, from what I saw on my report.

He doesn't just go onto a website and type in someone's name.

Thanks "danieldaniel". You're right and "johnniewalker" is partially right. I do use one of "a" service like "those". However, just to clarify, let me tell everyone what I do and how's its different than just getting a membership with spokeo, intellius, beenverified, etc.... and this is not to be cocky, just to show the difference.

- I have 7 years in litigation collections both against businesses and consumers alike.
- I have 10 years of tracking down people with the internet / phone and other methods.
- I've taught college type classes on the art of skiptracing and bill collecting and have supervised 3 skiptracing departments and collectively trained over 500 people in person type skiptracing.
- I've run my business since Nov 2009 and since then, have spent about 60 hours a week at it... half of which is comprised of just skiptracing.
- I've located thousand of individuals "intentionally" trying to hide themselves which has increased the revenue to a very noticeable level in my company and other companies I've worked for.
- The service I mainly use for skiptracing, I pay about $200 - $300 a month for (more or less), and then $75 for a different one.
- Both services I use, gives me a much higher quantity and more accurate results than any service online that a "consumer" can get. To be able to get the services I use, I couldn't have any criminal record on me, I had to have decent credit, my business had to be in operation for 2 years + and could not be a sole proprietorship, but an llp, llc, corp, etc., I had to have a commercial based office which they sent an auditor out to inspect the office and the security of it, and more!  Its not easy to get the services I have.
- The services I use are very powerful as they tap into your credit report data, ssn records, dmv, and tons of other sources.
- Finally, I take all the access I have and my education / experience in the field and combine them for my clients.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not trying to be vain, just to illustrate the differences between my service and some online look-up service.
Not trying to belittle you at all. If I need a background check I know where to go.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: mjester93 on March 11, 2013, 12:50:01 AM
PM'd.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 14, 2013, 02:42:18 PM
tldr has been removed from the pending scammer list. He has proven to be trust worthy.

If you find suspected or confirmed scams on the forum please post to MASTER'S SCAMMER LIST with links to relevant information. thanks


Is this me? I was on a pending scammer list?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 23, 2013, 06:36:19 PM
I purchased the VIP membership status on the OP's forum, by his request to receive an investigation.

I requested the investigation several times (beginning of March).  OP said the service would be delivered that weekend.

That was 3 weeks ago.

I have not heard back from the OP, even though I paid him .31 btc.  I have since requested a refund, both here and on his site. 

I am extremely unhappy with this service, and I highly recommend people avoid this service.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on March 23, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
Huh.. that is odd because the OP did an investigation on me when a 15 year old child requested one no problem.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 23, 2013, 06:59:22 PM
Huh.. that is odd because the OP did an investigation on me when a 15 year old child requested one no problem.

yeah, it is weird, cause I gave him the money, I gave him the information, I talked with him via PM on both sites, he promised to deliver in a few days, and then nothing.

So, naturally, I want my money back.  I've waited over 3 weeks for him to deliver, and I'm tired of waiting for something I paid for 3 weeks ago.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: sublime5447 on March 23, 2013, 07:05:12 PM
Ya understandable. What is up tldoctor? Could you not find the guy? I do have to say that it sucks refunding btc. It sucks to refund .31 when the price is 75 each opposed to the 50 each from a few days ago. Just another reason that btc needs price stability. 


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 23, 2013, 07:11:55 PM
Ya understandable. What is up tldoctor? Could you not find the guy? I do have to say that it sucks refunding btc. It sucks to refund .31 when the price is 75 each opposed to the 50 each from a few days ago. Just another reason that btc needs price stability. 

yeah, it does suck, but the easy way to avoid that is to deliver what people request.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 07:15:34 PM
Ya understandable. What is up tldoctor? Could you not find the guy? I do have to say that it sucks refunding btc. It sucks to refund .31 when the price is 75 each opposed to the 50 each from a few days ago. Just another reason that btc needs price stability. 

yeah, it does suck, but the easy way to avoid that is to deliver what people request.

Sorry for the delay everyone, my company went through some changes, but we are back on track. Valcreations, I'm sorry your displeased with the service and would advise everyone to stay away from it, but once in a while I can't find someone. You have messaged me on my own forum, which I replied to more than once, you posted on my forum, which I just replied to. You have posted on here and messaged me on here. No matter how many messages you send or posts you make, doesn't change my answer. I CANNOT FIND WHO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

I'm sorry I couldn't find the skip and I offered you, along with the other benefits of my forum (like the educational articles that teach people to skiptrace for themselves), another free skiptrace. Most of my clients are pleased. I don't feel its right for you to advise everyone to stay away from my forum when I worked hard to find the skip you needed. If I had a 100% closure rate, I'd be rich by now. I find "almost" everyone, but not everyone that I try to find.

I advised you on more than one occasion that I couldn't find the person with the limited information you provided.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 07:25:37 PM
Finally heard back from this guy, 2 weeks after his last communication.  Did he email me or try and contact me directly? No.  He posted on the forum that he couldn't find the person.  ::)

He has replied to me twice via PM.  Here are both messages:
March 4, 2013:
Do you have the state he lives in? And his age?

March 10, 2013:
I asked you - "Do you have the state he lives in? And his age?"

Why am I only finding out now that you can't find this person? 

And why are you refusing a refund, when you didn't provide the service I paid for?

Quote
I advised you on more than one occasion that I couldn't find the person with the limited information you provided.
This is not true.  I never received any communication from you on either forum until now.  So, don't act like you have been communicating with me, when you haven't.

Unacceptable.

Don't order from this person, he will take your money


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 07:38:09 PM
very revealing information about this guy:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144665.msg1625566#msg1625566

seems like a scammer to me.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
Huh.. that is odd because the OP did an investigation on me when a 15 year old child requested one no problem.

Thank you, this guy is on a vendetta to make me out to be a scammer. He made other posts on this forum saying as such, then directed people to my personal information, which is annoying, but I don't have a lot to hide either way. He's a bad sport about this. I can find most everyone, but not everyone I try to find. He doesn't seem to grasp this.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 07:58:19 PM
Thank you, this guy is on a vendetta to make me out to be a scammer. He made other posts on this forum saying as such, then directed people to my personal information, which is annoying, but I don't have a lot to hide either way. He's a bad sport about this. I can find most everyone, but not everyone I try to find. He doesn't seem to grasp this.

you still don't get it, do you?  If I pay you, and you don't deliver (and avoid communication with me), and then refuse to refund me, then yes, you are a scammer.

To top it all off, you lie about it, and make it sound like you've been in contact with me, which is total BS.

Send me my refund, and I'll stop calling you a scammer.  It's as simple as that.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 24, 2013, 08:06:02 PM
I was taken aback by him when he didn't respond to my PM for 2 weeks as well (actually, he *still* hasn't responded to my PM, but neither has a cute chick I asked for naked photos of earlier-- coincidence!? Probably the same person I bet...) but he did his service for free for me to show his speed, and I believe him for the most part. I have no proof he won't scam someone in the future, just like I have no proof I won't murder someone in the future, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to work in a gun store right now.

I think you were spooked, which is reasonable, but are reacting a bit unreasonably.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

so, not getting the service or the refund is the result of doing business with this guy?

It's an interesting business model, for sure.  Take people's money, don't provide anything in return, and then refuse refunds.

hmmmmm, where have I seen that before?  ???


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 24, 2013, 08:16:59 PM
You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

so, not getting the service or the refund is the result of doing business with this guy?

If you're in the USA, try dialing "0", asking them to look up a phone number for you by giving them a business location and name, and when they can't find it because you didn't give enough info, ask the telephone company for a refund. Let me know what they tell you.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 24, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
You paid for his service, he couldn't find your person, that is the result of his service. That doesn't deserve a refund, so stop acting like a 4yr that doesn't get his way.

so, not getting the service or the refund is the result of doing business with this guy?

It's an interesting business model, for sure.  Take people's money, don't provide anything in return, and then refuse refunds.

hmmmmm, where have I seen that before?  ???
Actually, he said twice that he would give you another one for free.  Which he wasn't even required to do. 

He's refusing a refund because you paid for his service, and he gave it to you.  It doesn't matter much if you liked the result.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 24, 2013, 08:25:08 PM
Better yet, if you're in the USA, dial a 900 number sex line and ask for a refund when the girl doesn't get you off. Let me know what they tell you.


In short, he's selling his time of attempting a look-up, not guaranteeing to find someone on limited criteria. You simply can't guarantee something like that, even if you were the bestest coolest superhero detective slash bounty hunter in the known universe (although some may be better than others).


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
Comprehensive Report:  $25 or 1.403 btc (or whatever the current equivelent of the USD price is)

Features:

- Social security number
- Criminal records if available
- Assets (what property or vehicles they own)
- Relatives and some of their info
- Phone numbers (verified)
- Associated emails
- Employment
- Current address and address history
- Neighbors and their contact info
- And more!

This is what I purchased.  Not for him to "find" someone.  I purchased a report on someone.  He didn't deliver that report.  Plain and Simple.

And really, he could have told me that wayyyy back at the beginning (3 weeks ago) when he said the skip would be done by the weekend.  Skip ahead 3 weeks, and he posts on a forum thread that he won't be delivering the report and/or a refund.

If he didn't have enough info, he could have told me.  If he didn't have enough info, then he didn't provide the service.

sorry, that's unacceptable.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:26:47 PM
He's refusing a refund because you paid for his service, and he gave it to you.  It doesn't matter much if you liked the result.
he did?  where?  I don't have a report or anything, actually.  So no, he didn't deliver the service.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 24, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
He's refusing a refund because you paid for his service, and he gave it to you.  It doesn't matter much if you liked the result.
he did?  where?  I don't have a report or anything, actually.  So no, he didn't deliver the service.
He looked for the guy you asked him to look for.  He put in the work, which is what you paid for.  You didn't pay for a guaranteed result.  You paid for guaranteed work.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 24, 2013, 08:29:53 PM
Comprehensive Report:  $25 or 1.403 btc (or whatever the current equivelent of the USD price is)

Features:

- Social security number
- Criminal records if available
- Assets (what property or vehicles they own)
- Relatives and some of their info
- Phone numbers (verified)
- Associated emails
- Employment
- Current address and address history
- Neighbors and their contact info
- And more!

This is what I purchased.  Not for him to "find" someone.  I purchased a report on someone.  He didn't deliver that report.  Plain and Simple.

And really, he could have told me that wayyyy back at the beginning (3 weeks ago) when he said the skip would be done by the weekend.  Skip ahead 3 weeks, and he posts on a forum thread that he won't be delivering the report and/or a refund.

If he didn't have enough info, he could have told me.  If he didn't have enough info, then he didn't provide the service.

sorry, that's unacceptable.


Yea, it seems like he dropped the ball on both customer service and on marketing.

tldoctor: Please update your advertisement to be a little less vague. Also, since you already sold a "report" which you didn't provide, just make a "report" explaining what you did find, what you didn't, why you couldn't find it, and what other options they may have to find more details they need perhaps. Then you will be released from your requirements. As it stands, it appears to a total stranger than you just blew off your responsibilities.

velacreations: Stop buying things with GOLD before the price jumps up. It will make handling inconveniences a lot easier.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:34:39 PM
He looked for the guy you asked him to look for.  He put in the work, which is what you paid for.  You didn't pay for a guaranteed result.  You paid for guaranteed work.

where is the evidence of his work?  he said that he didn't have enough info to do the search.  So no, he didn't put in the work.

I paid for a report, not for work.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:37:05 PM
velacreations: Stop buying things with GOLD before the price jumps up. It will make handling inconveniences a lot easier.
that's actually good advice.  I should have used paypal, and then could have filed a dispute for goods not delivered.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 08:39:04 PM
Thank you, this guy is on a vendetta to make me out to be a scammer. He made other posts on this forum saying as such, then directed people to my personal information, which is annoying, but I don't have a lot to hide either way. He's a bad sport about this. I can find most everyone, but not everyone I try to find. He doesn't seem to grasp this.

you still don't get it, do you?  If I pay you, and you don't deliver (and avoid communication with me), and then refuse to refund me, then yes, you are a scammer.

To top it all off, you lie about it, and make it sound like you've been in contact with me, which is total BS.

Send me my refund, and I'll stop calling you a scammer.  It's as simple as that.

No, you don't put me down as a scammer, then demand I refund you so you'll stop saying I'm a scammer! I'd be an idiot to be threatened into refunding you. I don't really care about the little money I'd need to refund you with, but explaining to you why I care, would be like talking to a wall. I didn't lie about anything. I tried to find your skip with my best tools and best efforts. I PUT DOUBLE THE MONEY THAT YOU PAID INTO FINDING THE GUY. I've lost more than you here. You got the benefits of the forum and some info on the guy you're looking for. I asked you twice about more information on the skip and finally you replied saying you didn't know! I had such limited info to work with, put a lot of time into finding the person and money.... and you know what, I couldn't do it. Terrible me.

My forum clearly outlines the terms that if I can't perform the skip (happens once in a while), you get another request, free of charge. It says nothing about a refund if I can't successfully perform the trace.

I don't know how I can be any more clear. Its not a scam because you don't understand the very clear terms I provided.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 08:49:25 PM
"Valcreations" keep on whining and talking shit, I'm done replying to you. The people on this board that I have worked for, seem to be very happy with my service. Sorry you're not, but at this point (after you posted lies and shit on my forum too), I really don't care any more about defending myself to you.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:56:49 PM
I didn't lie about anything.

You did lie.  Right here on this forum. Let me refresh your memory:
Quote
I already you today and over a week ago. I CANNOT FIND EVERYONE! NOT PERFECT.
no you didn't.  you did not contact me and inform me that you couldn't find the person until today. THAT IS A LIE

I tried to find your skip with my best tools and best efforts. I PUT DOUBLE THE MONEY THAT YOU PAID INTO FINDING THE GUY.
Prove it.  First, you say, "you didn't send me enough information to find someone" and now it is "I searched and searched and couldn't find him"

Which is it?

I've lost more than you here. You got the benefits of the forum and some info on the guy you're looking for.
what information?  I didn't get any information.  Stop trying to be the victim.

Quote
I asked you twice about more information on the skip and finally you replied saying you didn't know!
You banned me from the forum and my PMs, so I can't post them on here, but I sent you the information several times. I told you I didn't have anything else. a few times.

After I sent the information the first time, you said the skip "would be delivered on Sunday"  If you didn't have what you needed, why did you say that?

I also gave you my email address and usernames on 2 forums, you could have contacted me at any time saying you didn't have enough information, you won't be able to do the search.  Did you do that?  No.

So, don't act like you exerted a bunch of work on this.  You didn't.  
You could have contacted me at any point to resolve this, to let me know what was going on.  You didn't.

You had basically written me off, until I started posting on your threads demanding my money back.  After more than 3 weeks from when I ordered the service, your idea of communicating with me about it is posting on a forum thread that you couldn't find the guy.

TERRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 08:58:53 PM
after you posted lies and shit on my forum too
you show me one lie I've told.  I have stated EXACTLY what happened, and even posted PMs to back it up.

Funny how once I start posting evidence, you ban me from the forum...


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 24, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
after you posted lies and shit on my forum too
you show me one lie I've told.  I have stated EXACTLY what happened, and even posted PMs to back it up.

Funny how once I start posting evidence, you ban me from the forum...

Actually no. I banned you before you started posted your so called evidence. Which isn't evidence at all! Its you responding with your take on my responses. How is that evidence?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 24, 2013, 09:10:56 PM
Actually no. I banned you before you started posted your so called evidence. Which isn't evidence at all! Its you responding with your take on my responses. How is that evidence?
It is showing your PMs, what you actually said.  Where is your evidence?  Where is the contact telling me the situation? 

Do you or do you not have PMs or emails that were sent to me beyond March 10, 2013, informing me of the situation?
Because if not, then you are clearly a liar, as you have stated more than once that you contacted me multiple times as soon as one week ago.

And since you banned me, then you can go ahead and send my refund, now.  Cause wasn't having access to the forum part of that deal (like you previously mentioned)?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 12:43:02 AM
Actually no. I banned you before you started posted your so called evidence. Which isn't evidence at all! Its you responding with your take on my responses. How is that evidence?
It is showing your PMs, what you actually said.  Where is your evidence?  Where is the contact telling me the situation? 

Do you or do you not have PMs or emails that were sent to me beyond March 10, 2013, informing me of the situation?
Because if not, then you are clearly a liar, as you have stated more than once that you contacted me multiple times as soon as one week ago.

And since you banned me, then you can go ahead and send my refund, now.  Cause wasn't having access to the forum part of that deal (like you previously mentioned)?

Yes it was, but you broke the rules of the forum, hence voiding your membership. Even if I show you the PM's, you're just going to lie and say I altered it or you never received it, etc. I would have still considered refunding you half of the money if you didn't want the free skip.

You keep saying there is no evidence of contact, I keep saying I did. If I provided you the evidence, you'd claim it was never sent.... correct?

So what is the point of me providing it?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 25, 2013, 12:44:44 AM
I'm going to have to report all of these posts to a moderator as I came here to see on-topic discussion about this service and it's future, not about one customer's personal customer service inquiries and the business owner's responses. Please use email for that and let the rest of us only bother to come here when there is something interesting involving the actual service in topic.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 12:50:09 AM
Even if I show you the PM's, you're just going to lie and say I altered it or you never received it, etc. I would have still considered refunding you half of the money if you didn't want the free skip.

You keep saying there is no evidence of contact, I keep saying I did. If I provided you the evidence, you'd claim it was never sent.... correct?

So what is the point of me providing it?
Cause you didn't send it.  You never sent me anything beyond March 10. 

And sure, you can fake PMs, if you want, if that makes you feel better.  But the fact is that unless your PM system is really crappy, you never contacted me beyond the 10th of March.

And you had 3 forms of contact for me, email, this forum, and your forum.  I originally requested the service on this forum.

Are you going to say all 3 forms of contact failed?



Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 12:56:05 AM
you're just going to lie
listen bud, I don't lie.  And out of the 2 of us, you are the one who has been caught in a lie with this situation.  So, we'll be going with my word on it, not yours.

I took screen shots of my PM's from your forum before you banned me.  So, I know what messages were in there.  And there was NOTHING from you beyond March 10.  Nothing.

So, don't even try and set me up like a liar, here.  I kept my end of the deal. I paid you, like requested, exactly according to the instructions.

You were the one who failed, not me.

Hell, I even gave you the information I had BEFORE I paid you with a PM on THIS FORUM.  So, if that was not enough info, why didn't you tell me then, before charging me?



Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 01:04:59 AM
you broke the rules of the forum, hence voiding your membership.
which rule, exactly?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 01:46:56 AM
you broke the rules of the forum, hence voiding your membership.
which rule, exactly?

There's a few. The most notable one, being a good morale character. Posting your lies in my forum doesn't show good morale character. Stop whining that you lost your $10 forum admission. I clearly say that if we can't find who you're looking for, we'll gladly do another skip for free. I don't say that if we can't find the skip, you get your membership refunded.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 01:50:36 AM
Posting your lies in my forum doesn't show good morale character.
did you ban yourself?  cause you are the only one who has lied here.



Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 02:01:28 AM
Posting your lies in my forum doesn't show good morale character.
did you ban yourself?  cause you are the only one who has lied here.



How did I know you were going to say that?

You say I lie and I say you do. What else is there to say? (probably a lot by you).

But congrats on being the first person out of all my previous clients, to bitch this much about your $10. Anyone else I didn't find their skip for, just said ok, thanks for trying, and then gave me someone else to find.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 02:13:42 AM
You say I lie and I say you do.
The difference is that you are actually lying, here.

Let's just look at the situation for a bit, shall we?

Your Version
You claim that you sent me multiple communications as recent as a week go.  For that to be true, then your PM system must have failed multiple times.  Not only that, I sent you PMs asking for a status on the project. So, for your version to be true, your site had to fail a number of times.  Is that what you are claiming?  That your forum software can't deliver PMs?  Is your forum so bad that it fails multiple times?

And, if you claim that, then the question is, why didn't you contact me through one of the 2 other methods I gave you?  Hell, I didn't even order the job on your forum, I ordered it on here. Why didn't you send communication through another method?

If I had received communication from you, what motivation do I have to post on the forum and send you multiple messages about a refund?  Don't you think that's odd?

See, your version doesn't hold up to logic.  For it to be true, not only does it require me to be lying (I'm not), it also requires that your forum system failed on multiple occasions, as well as email and THIS forum's software, too.

That's just too much to fail all at the same time, bud.

My version  
Only requires that you are lying to try and save face after being called out.  

So, which is more likely?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 04:43:07 AM
You say I lie and I say you do.
The difference is that you are actually lying, here.

Let's just look at the situation for a bit, shall we?

Your Version
You claim that you sent me multiple communications as recent as a week go.  For that to be true, then your PM system must have failed multiple times.  Not only that, I sent you PMs asking for a status on the project. So, for your version to be true, your site had to fail a number of times.  Is that what you are claiming?  That your forum software can't deliver PMs?  Is your forum so bad that it fails multiple times?

And, if you claim that, then the question is, why didn't you contact me through one of the 2 other methods I gave you?  Hell, I didn't even order the job on your forum, I ordered it on here. Why didn't you send communication through another method?

If I had received communication from you, what motivation do I have to post on the forum and send you multiple messages about a refund?  Don't you think that's odd?

See, your version doesn't hold up to logic.  For it to be true, not only does it require me to be lying (I'm not), it also requires that your forum system failed on multiple occasions, as well as email and THIS forum's software, too.

That's just too much to fail all at the same time, bud.

My version  
Only requires that you are lying to try and save face after being called out.  

So, which is more likely?

Actually my logic holds up just fine. And my forum's pm system works just fine. I sent the messages there, didn't need to send them on this forum, since I sent them on mine. You either didn't see them or are straight out lying. You're basing your arguments on the fact that you're telling the truth, which your not.

This discussion is over. I'm tired of your lies. You think I'm a liar and a scammer, so be it. I have many happy clients / customers that say otherwise.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 05:22:38 AM
Actually my logic holds up just fine. And my forum's pm system works just fine.
Then where are they?  If your forum didn't lose them, then where are they?  What happened to them?  did they evaporate?  Where could they be?  Why do you think I would send you a message saying I haven't heard from you in 2 weeks? Your logic is so full of holes, it is quite clear that you are lying about something so small and basic, that it makes me wonder about the bigger stuff.

Quote
I sent the messages there, didn't need to send them on this forum, since I sent them on mine.
I even asked you the status through PMs on THIS FORUM.  Why didn't you reply?  if you had replied, like you claim, wouldn't you find it odd that I ept asking about it?

There's only 2 possible scenarios here, either your forum doesn't work or you didn't send them, bud. Since you insist your forum software is fine, the only possible solution here is that you are lying.

Quote
You either didn't see them or are straight out lying. You're basing your arguments on the fact that you're telling the truth, which your not.

Here you go, bud, just for you, my PMs.  

https://i.imgur.com/qKASdcO.png

https://i.imgur.com/M9uw7jV.png

https://i.imgur.com/DXtEJgK.png

Now, you tell me where the message is.




Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 05:58:12 AM
This is the proof of work you asked for. I managed to compile some of my old notes. We both know it still won't be good enough for you. You're still going to complain and call me a scammer. You asked for this and I have a little free time to do it, since you claim I didn't do the work on it.... so this is more to show to other people that I did the work.

I also find this interesting... where you admit through PM to me on my forum that you're not receiving PM's and emails and such but now you're so profuse in calling me a liar and scammer. - http://postimg.org/image/57kml8s5p/

And remember, part of the terms on my site and this thread, is that it must be someone aged 18+ and in the US
-----------------------

You requested a skip with the following info provided:

Mathew Harrison
mattepredator@gmail.com, thepredator02@hotmail.ca, onvemusp@sharklasers.com

paypal: onvemusp@sharklasers.com
name on paypal account: Aaron Kingston Cp

google +: https://plus.google.com/106603952814650530037
He just added me to his circles on g+

site: http://buybitcoinswithpaypal.blogspot.com/

site: http://sellbitcoins.blogspot.com/

----------------------

Here's what I found out (since there's two totally different names (matthew harrison & Aaron Kingston CP) which makes it two different skips I now have to take the time to work and pay for -

Googled all the emails - I found some related scam posts on this guy, a bunch of gaming sites, etc. All results took me to different avenues and eventually led back to the information you already provided. onvemusp@sharklasers.com - is a disposable email, so I could get anything from the domain.

I googled the name Matthew Harrison and got some similar results and put it in my skiptracing tools in CA, but obviously got way too many results. Same with Aaron Kingston Cp.

Google plus - Nothing since one needs to be added. Other sites you provided led to nothing.

You did not provide an IP address, although you say you have his emails.

I spent a significant amount of time using my skiptracing tools to find both names, since as I said, now I'm suddenly doing two cases for you. I definitely can't post the results I got through the use of my investigative tools here, as it would implicate the "innocent" that have nothing to do with Matthew Harrison or Aaron Kingston, as there were way too many results I had to search through.

I emailed each email provided from a decoy email address of mine, and couldn't get a response, hence no access to the blogs or an IP address.

I did more little searches on various pieces of data I picked up and still found nothing substantial.
------------------------------------------------

So all in all, I tried searching for two different people with very limited details to start, which were probably false names.

Also, as I said, the skip needs to be at least 18 years of age, which is unconfirmed. So I might have easily been searching for someone with my investigative tools, that I couldn't find even with more info.

I put a lot of work and money into searching BOTH persons. And hey, I might have found the person through my skiptracing tools, but would have no idea if it was a good hit, as I had nothing to compare it to.

So again, I'm sorry I didn't find your guy, but I dished out a shit load of time into trying to locate both names with no other good details. Even with some of my friend's names, there's several with the same name in the state they reside in. So with a name and state and no other substantial details, there's no way of knowing if I got a good hit or not. And it would be highly immoral of me to provide you with the possible hits, when they're not confirmed.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 06:27:51 AM
I also find this interesting... where you admit through PM to me on my forum that you're not receiving PM's and emails and such but now you're so profuse in calling me a liar and scammer. - http://postimg.org/image/57kml8s5p/
yeah, my EMAIL was down for a day.  Notice the date on that message.  March 2, 2013
How does my email being down for a day affect PMs on your forum 8 days later?  Does your forum not send PMs when a completely unrelated server was under DDoS in the past?  

Are you seriously trying to blame my email being down on March 2, 2013 with your lying about sending me communication after March 10?  ???

Really, now it should be quite obvious to anyone that you are lying about communication.  Why would you lie about something like that?  I don't get it.  It is such a trivial thing to lie about.  You didn't communicate with me beyond your message on March 10.  You know it, and I know it, and it's pretty damn clear to anyone else paying attention here that you did not send any more PMs.  You can't spin your way out of this.

Quote
You did not provide an IP address, although you say you have his emails.
I offered from day one to send additional information, if needed.  I informed you to contact me through email or either forum, if you needed anything.  Did you?  No.  Simple as that.  You had 3 ways to contact me, and you didn't try and contact me in any way.

So again, I'm sorry I didn't find your guy, but I dished out a shit load of time into trying to locate both names with no other good details. Even with some of my friend's names, there's several with the same name in the state they reside in. So with a name and state and no other substantial details, there's no way of knowing if I got a good hit or not. And it would be highly immoral of me to provide you with the possible hits, when they're not confirmed.
Listen, I sent you the information up front.  I asked you if that was enough.  You said fine.  Then, you asked for and accepted my payment.

The right way to do business is say up front, "hey, listen, this is not enough information, I will need more than this."  Did you say anything like that?  Even remotely?  No.  Instead, you instructed me to pay you to receive the report.

If you needed more information, why didn't you request it?  Why didn't you tell me up front?

At this point, I guess you are just trying to save face, but it is clear that you got caught in a lie, and in public, too.  You could have just as easily sent me this information one of the times I sent you a request for a status on the skip after March 10. Why didn't you?  Did you just forget or is it incompetence?  


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
I'm done with this. You're a liar and you're very rude. I did what you asked by posting a partial record of the work done and of course you're still rude and dishonest. But you know what? My investor is still with me and I'm still getting requests for investigations to be done. So I'm moving on. I suggest you do the same. Or not. I don't care at this point.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Vod on March 25, 2013, 04:45:07 PM
I'm done with this. You're a liar and you're very rude. I did what you asked by posting a partial record of the work done and of course you're still rude and dishonest. But you know what? My investor is still with me and I'm still getting requests for investigations to be done. So I'm moving on. I suggest you do the same. Or not. I don't care at this point.

Dude, he has said his side and you have stated yours.  People have made up their mind by now and continuing this makes you look less professional.

You can't please everyone.  Just ignore him and move on.   ;)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 25, 2013, 05:17:30 PM
I'm done with this. You're a liar and you're very rude. I did what you asked by posting a partial record of the work done and of course you're still rude and dishonest. But you know what? My investor is still with me and I'm still getting requests for investigations to be done. So I'm moving on. I suggest you do the same. Or not. I don't care at this point.

Dude, he has said his side and you have stated yours.  People have made up their mind by now and continuing this makes you look less professional.

You can't please everyone.  Just ignore him and move on.   ;)

Which I believe is what I said in the post. But I did want to add one thing. "velacreations", After speaking to a few people, I've decided to offer you a partial refund - half. You still got the other benefits of the forum and the search was only one of the benefits, plus as per the listed terms right in the forum, it says that another search will be provided for free if we can't find your skip (along with your skip needs to be 18+ and in the US - both here and on the forum).

So provide you btc address again and I'll give you half if you want.

Now, if you can provide the email or pm that says that I demanded all the money upfront like you claim, I will issue you a full refund.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 25, 2013, 11:37:14 PM
"velacreations", After speaking to a few people, I've decided to offer you a partial refund - half.
Thank you. You can send it to the address in my signature.  I sent .31 btc, so half will be .155 btc.  Thanks

Now, if you can provide the email or pm that says that I demanded all the money upfront like you claim, I will issue you a full refund.
I don't have any PMs before March 2.  But, if you recall, you instructed me to buy the forum membership to get the report.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 26, 2013, 02:46:14 AM
"velacreations", After speaking to a few people, I've decided to offer you a partial refund - half.
Thank you. You can send it to the address in my signature.  I sent .31 btc, so half will be .155 btc.  Thanks

Now, if you can provide the email or pm that says that I demanded all the money upfront like you claim, I will issue you a full refund.
I don't have any PMs before March 2.  But, if you recall, you instructed me to buy the forum membership to get the report.

A partial refund of the .155 has been issued.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: velacreations on March 26, 2013, 02:46:40 AM
partial refund received.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: WaveyDee on March 26, 2013, 04:10:40 AM
How much for a full report on yourself?


This line just literally cracked me up!  :D


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Atruk on March 26, 2013, 08:41:23 AM
How much would it cost for a reverse phone number search. I've been getting texts from an ex, but being shortsighted I don't keep their phone numbers. I'd just like a name so I can know if the conversation is worth continuing and to avoid that awkward situation where I might have to use the name in conversation and don't remember it. It's worth 0.2 bitcoins to me. Send me a PM encrypted with the public key linked to the WOT profile my signature if you're interested.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on March 26, 2013, 08:04:57 PM
How much would it cost for a reverse phone number search. I've been getting texts from an ex, but being shortsighted I don't keep their phone numbers. I'd just like a name so I can know if the conversation is worth continuing and to avoid that awkward situation where I might have to use the name in conversation and don't remember it. It's worth 0.2 bitcoins to me. Send me a PM encrypted with the public key linked to the WOT profile my signature if you're interested.

I don't know how to send an encrypted PM they way you're saying. You may email me here: eric@naa-recovery.com  The price you mentioned it fine. There's a 75% chance I can do it, so payment is after I verify I got the correct info.

Eric


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Atruk on March 26, 2013, 09:10:05 PM
How much would it cost for a reverse phone number search. I've been getting texts from an ex, but being shortsighted I don't keep their phone numbers. I'd just like a name so I can know if the conversation is worth continuing and to avoid that awkward situation where I might have to use the name in conversation and don't remember it. It's worth 0.2 bitcoins to me. Send me a PM encrypted with the public key linked to the WOT profile my signature if you're interested.

I don't know how to send an encrypted PM they way you're saying. You may email me here: eric@naa-recovery.com  The price you mentioned it fine. There's a 75% chance I can do it, so payment is after I verify I got the correct info.

Eric

Email sent.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: danieldaniel on March 26, 2013, 10:01:36 PM
This is the proof of work you asked for. I managed to compile some of my old notes. We both know it still won't be good enough for you. You're still going to complain and call me a scammer. You asked for this and I have a little free time to do it, since you claim I didn't do the work on it.... so this is more to show to other people that I did the work.

I also find this interesting... where you admit through PM to me on my forum that you're not receiving PM's and emails and such but now you're so profuse in calling me a liar and scammer. - http://postimg.org/image/57kml8s5p/

And remember, part of the terms on my site and this thread, is that it must be someone aged 18+ and in the US
-----------------------

You requested a skip with the following info provided:

Mathew Harrison
mattepredator@gmail.com, thepredator02@hotmail.ca, onvemusp@sharklasers.com

paypal: onvemusp@sharklasers.com
name on paypal account: Aaron Kingston Cp

google +: https://plus.google.com/106603952814650530037
He just added me to his circles on g+

site: http://buybitcoinswithpaypal.blogspot.com/

site: http://sellbitcoins.blogspot.com/

----------------------

Here's what I found out (since there's two totally different names (matthew harrison & Aaron Kingston CP) which makes it two different skips I now have to take the time to work and pay for -

Googled all the emails - I found some related scam posts on this guy, a bunch of gaming sites, etc. All results took me to different avenues and eventually led back to the information you already provided. onvemusp@sharklasers.com - is a disposable email, so I could get anything from the domain.

I googled the name Matthew Harrison and got some similar results and put it in my skiptracing tools in CA, but obviously got way too many results. Same with Aaron Kingston Cp.

Google plus - Nothing since one needs to be added. Other sites you provided led to nothing.

You did not provide an IP address, although you say you have his emails.

I spent a significant amount of time using my skiptracing tools to find both names, since as I said, now I'm suddenly doing two cases for you. I definitely can't post the results I got through the use of my investigative tools here, as it would implicate the "innocent" that have nothing to do with Matthew Harrison or Aaron Kingston, as there were way too many results I had to search through.

I emailed each email provided from a decoy email address of mine, and couldn't get a response, hence no access to the blogs or an IP address.

I did more little searches on various pieces of data I picked up and still found nothing substantial.
------------------------------------------------

So all in all, I tried searching for two different people with very limited details to start, which were probably false names.

Also, as I said, the skip needs to be at least 18 years of age, which is unconfirmed. So I might have easily been searching for someone with my investigative tools, that I couldn't find even with more info.

I put a lot of work and money into searching BOTH persons. And hey, I might have found the person through my skiptracing tools, but would have no idea if it was a good hit, as I had nothing to compare it to.

So again, I'm sorry I didn't find your guy, but I dished out a shit load of time into trying to locate both names with no other good details. Even with some of my friend's names, there's several with the same name in the state they reside in. So with a name and state and no other substantial details, there's no way of knowing if I got a good hit or not. And it would be highly immoral of me to provide you with the possible hits, when they're not confirmed.
Well, problem solved.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Atruk on March 27, 2013, 10:37:30 PM
Information provided as advertised.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: roedieroe on April 02, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
Couldn't be happier with this service.  Delivered incredibly fast and in full, as advertised.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on April 02, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Couldn't be happier with this service.  Delivered incredibly fast and in full, as advertised.

Thanks :)


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: BCB on April 11, 2013, 03:34:59 AM
Hey,  I just sent you a PM.  There is a bitcoiner who is not active on this forum who want to get in touch with you.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tycho on April 13, 2013, 12:51:53 PM
Hey, I have an IP address and a timestamp. The IP is for a US ISP (Charter Communications). Is this the sort of thing you can track down?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on April 13, 2013, 08:49:19 PM
Hey, I have an IP address and a timestamp. The IP is for a US ISP (Charter Communications). Is this the sort of thing you can track down?
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I'd say half of the time. PM me the info and I'll try for you. If I get it a hit, I'll investigate and charge you, if not, no cost.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: makksik on April 15, 2013, 11:14:38 PM
Hey doc,

Bitsky recommended you--

So, quick background. I'm a freelance finance journalist in Toronto and after a few days of lurking around, I decided to pull the trigger and purchase some BTC to go through the whole experience. Some friends in the office wanted some too--so we decided to go to LocalBitcoins.com and find someone willing to sell either live or via interac in Toronto. Counter party was user "Duckie" with a previous positive review. We texted back and forth--his number is +1 647 795 3222. Funds were accepted for 5 BTC and poof. A couple of hours later, a disconnected phone number and nothing, nada.

I have a header from the e-mail (his address is premiumbtc@gmail.com) he sent confirming receipt of funds and alleging transfer of BTC:

Received: by 10.50.185.232 with SMTP id ff8csp111908igc;
        Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 10.50.170.36 with SMTP id aj4mr3922913igc.67.1365987612880;
        Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <premiumbtc@gmail.com>
Received: from mail-ie0-x244.google.com (mail-ie0-x244.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244])
        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9si7940887igl.58.2013.04.14.18.00.12
        (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128);
        Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of premiumbtc@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
       spf=pass (google.com: domain of premiumbtc@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::244 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=premiumbtc@gmail.com;
       dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com
Received: by mail-ie0-f196.google.com with SMTP id c10so2002039ieb.11
        for <max@XXXXXXXXX>; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id
         :subject:from:to:content-type;
        bh=6Lhw8K6z1lDJr46QdFjHKy4WVgUkie0pKug7HMz16qU=;
        b=A+d/SJwvgxuXzIrjTueh/OQvsyvVm6MyAoswOcOy4KclB8+LN+ZFTBHpGL4DXH0/13
         TglfiCyhQ13Xuz8H3F5RyLHY1yLCvjbsfqSQk2Tpuj3x3AlIQ02BGMwDITAQq9RDS571
         NmRXcy3N2elpLcwuXO2zgYxWkU0FSGp1ffN+REch34MvjKwVJnvCoIf7n3Dfp66rcfBR
         z0kPxp0VD8DG4gy5nmT6aabXN3YxLh75Uz5/XxA5+luHMUZlM7RbZR1nB+kw//iFc5v7
         N1HUUiUvMXuR4KIpNnlk1CqJ/LRSD3gLW9kJU1ivTQCu+jEanveI2H2N1+JS9z/rdo49
         WthQ==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.50.192.138 with SMTP id hg10mr3823515igc.95.1365987612705;
 Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.64.136.82 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <CAAPeHVTJv-rnLfg_J6b0Nib1H1hbNeo9wXQQZjfrAhqRgV4YgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAPeHVTJv-rnLfg_J6b0Nib1H1hbNeo9wXQQZjfrAhqRgV4YgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:00:12 -0400
Message-ID: <CAD160-0SkLz5KZtSvRcGjWadkzaFV0T5NsQwPyBx4i10te2LzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 5 BTC - makksik
From: Premium Btc <premiumbtc@gmail.com>

Any advice?  I'm not sure if it would be appropriate but I'd really like to place this bounty on the identification of this person. I really believe in the power and potential of BTC but some examples have to be made of people like this--and I guess I've learnt a lesson as well.

This was my first transaction and I just feel so deluded and let down--Legit hit the ground running: http://www.youtube.com/embed/qNPhVVjnoC0


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on April 15, 2013, 11:22:45 PM
So help me out here, what's the IP of the person you want to get?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: makksik on April 15, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
I'm a journalist--not a computer scientist--typically the header would contain the sender's IP--however seeing as they are all 10.x.x.x I'm guessing he masked himself through tor or something... As much as I would love to, I don't think I can provide you much more. Than a phone number and e-mail address--thanks for anything that you can do or anyone you can refer me to--cost is pretty irrelevant, I'm determined find this person for the principle of it.

Thanks,
Makksik


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Dabs on April 17, 2013, 08:37:22 PM
Mr TLDoctor, Are you still doing free reports on ourselves? What would you need? Can you track me based on what you can find out only from this forum?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on April 17, 2013, 10:00:21 PM
I'm a journalist--not a computer scientist--typically the header would contain the sender's IP--however seeing as they are all 10.x.x.x I'm guessing he masked himself through tor or something... As much as I would love to, I don't think I can provide you much more. Than a phone number and e-mail address--thanks for anything that you can do or anyone you can refer me to--cost is pretty irrelevant, I'm determined find this person for the principle of it.

Thanks,
Makksik

Please pm the email and phone number (don't post here) and I'll check it out for you. Price will be relative to what everyone gets charged, but word of advice, never say the cost is irrelevant lol.   


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: davidtehbest on July 10, 2013, 09:08:52 PM
Can you do one on me please?
If you do please do not make public the findings, thank you.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 10, 2013, 11:16:24 PM
Can you do one on me please?
If you do please do not make public the findings, thank you.

Of course, on both counts. PM me the details please and I'll do it right away.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: QuantumKiwi on July 11, 2013, 01:50:34 AM
interesting service, would you be able to locate some debtors for me internationally?

We have over 100+ people that have defaulted on web hosting service fees.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 11, 2013, 04:51:43 AM
interesting service, would you be able to locate some debtors for me internationally?

We have over 100+ people that have defaulted on web hosting service fees.

International is possible, but won't get the same extremely comprehensive results as US debtors / persons. I run a collection agency and depending on the country, can do collections for you too if you wish. If you have US debtors, that's our specialty. If you have commercial (business) debtors, that's my personal forte! PM me with more details and we'll setup a time to Skype.  - Eric


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Dabs on July 11, 2013, 06:13:42 AM
interesting service, would you be able to locate some debtors for me internationally?

We have over 100+ people that have defaulted on web hosting service fees.

Just cancel their web hosting? No pay, no hosting.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 11, 2013, 06:15:23 AM
interesting service, would you be able to locate some debtors for me internationally?

We have over 100+ people that have defaulted on web hosting service fees.

Just cancel their web hosting? No pay, no hosting.

I'm not positive, but I'm guessing he's already done that. However, since he has a bunch of people owing him money,  cancelling their service won't get him paid.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: 2dogs on July 19, 2013, 08:42:51 AM
....


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 25, 2013, 10:56:22 AM
....

Problem?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: 2dogs on July 26, 2013, 08:06:49 AM
no, bookmarking for future reference.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Squall on July 30, 2013, 02:28:41 AM
I had to get myself out of the newbie prison just so I could leave feedback on Eric's service.
I emailed him Sat night with nothing more than a name and general location of a person involved in a theft from a retail business. Not only did he reply within 10 minutes, He had the info on the person the same night. Although now I'm being held up by the so-far completely useless local police, I'm completely satisfied with's Eric's info and I recommend him highly to anyone thinking about using it.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Mooshire on July 30, 2013, 02:54:02 AM
Do you have the obligatory black and white filter sunglasses with a pipe and plaid coat?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 30, 2013, 02:56:43 AM
Do you have the obligatory black and white filter sunglasses with a pipe and plaid coat?

No, sorry, I don't. I do have a black leather coat and black sunglasses, if that helps?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: Dabs on July 30, 2013, 03:46:19 AM
tldoctor, I sent you a PM and followed up with an email as you requested.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 30, 2013, 05:51:12 AM
tldoctor, I sent you a PM and followed up with an email as you requested.

I didn't get the email or PM.  eric@naa-recovery.com


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: nolove1ty1s2 on July 30, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
Can you find Frederick Mann/?


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: tldoctor on July 31, 2013, 03:21:08 AM
Can you find Frederick Mann/?

Isn't he the ponzi scheme guy? Ya, more than likely I can find him. But he's probably intentionally off the grid. The charge for a solid locate would be around $100, vs the normal $25.00. Plus, you'd need a legally permissible purpose for finding him.


Title: Re: Cheap Investigative Service
Post by: TookDk on August 30, 2014, 10:22:25 PM
Interesting service you have. Are you still in business?