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Title: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 05, 2016, 05:25:58 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: LordCoder on April 05, 2016, 05:27:19 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 05, 2016, 05:29:49 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

I don't think we need advertising at all , I mean as a Bitcoiner you will logically search for something that accepts Bitcoin and you will end up finding OpenBazaar .


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: LordCoder on April 05, 2016, 05:32:03 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

I don't think we need advertising at all , I mean as a Bitcoiner you will logically search for something that accepts Bitcoin and you will end up finding OpenBazaar .

Still, Bitcoin is preferred to be used either on the deepweb or in forums. You also need some kind of escrow system so that you can gain reputation.
Nonetheless, I might use it if some people register there :)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 05, 2016, 05:32:38 PM
It doesn't need to beat ebay to be a huge success. If OpenBazaar can get 1% of the trades ebay does it would make a big difference to the price for a number of reasons.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: calkob on April 05, 2016, 06:05:48 PM
I think it going to take abit of time to get used to it, and i think it will take the general public even longer to try it.  but if it sticks it out then i think it could have a bright future.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 05, 2016, 06:11:05 PM
I like the interface but it will take time, see what it looks like in 6 months, how many sellers are opening shop. This is not a threat or any competition to darknet markets at all is my impression.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: classicsucks on April 05, 2016, 06:50:30 PM
what is your first impression on this when you tested it ?

Don't waste your time until they implement anonymity:
http://ohiobitcoin.com/ob1-ceo-brian-hoffman-explains-levels-of-anonymity-in-openbazaar/

Not sure about this Hoffman character. Also the nodeJS/python client/server architecture is bloated - I don't want to run all of this (likely insecure) shit on my machine. Sorry if it's a harsh review.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on April 05, 2016, 07:09:05 PM
what is your first impression on this when you tested it ?

Don't waste your time until they implement anonymity:
http://ohiobitcoin.com/ob1-ceo-brian-hoffman-explains-levels-of-anonymity-in-openbazaar/

Not sure about this Hoffman character. Also the nodeJS/python client/server architecture is bloated - I don't want to run all of this (likely insecure) shit on my machine. Sorry if it's a harsh review.

Hey, good catch. I did not realize they were UDP and incompatible with Tor. He did mention i2p as a possible future option.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: DGulari on April 05, 2016, 07:24:08 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

It is totally ugly.  It reminds me of dungeons and dragons.  Dark and cold look.  What a piece of shit.  Will fail for certain.  Where can I buy a put option?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: lister storm on April 05, 2016, 07:56:21 PM
i really like it to be honest, even though the design is not the one of the prettiest that are out there i believe that it has a still long time to go till the best version of it and it will be updated from time to time

i like that theres a huge variety of listings and that everyone can be their own shop if they want, i will surely buy something from it in the near future


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: sidhujag on April 05, 2016, 08:02:36 PM
The fact that it can't run offline is a deal breaker and they won't have anything working with IPFS for a long time (6 months or more) and it may not solve the problem of offline sales.... for me that is Why I worked on Syscoin and an ONCHAIN decentralized marketplace solution exists... OB will end up realizing this sooner or later that a p2p marketplace is not going to cut it especially when it comes to proving that you made a transaction, you have no offline db store unless you proactively set it up to record your tx's... the on-chain solution solves many problems at the expense of the "bloat" issue which probably can be solve through lightning networks and the fact that bandwidth/storage costs are getting cheaper every day aswell as pruning options for users in combination with expiring services that the owner of the service has control over. I think there are atleast a 3:1 pro:con benefit of doing onchain and using Satoshi's invention to solve the problem rather than a p2p solution which doesn't leverage the blockchain.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Yakamoto on April 05, 2016, 08:16:33 PM
I personally like openbazaar, but chances are I won't order much or anything from it. It seems a bit too inefficient for me personally, but I'm sure someone could make a way for the shipping and so of everything works better than it currently does.

I think it certainly has potential, but we'll have to see where it goes.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: classicsucks on April 05, 2016, 08:24:17 PM
what is your first impression on this when you tested it ?

Don't waste your time until they implement anonymity:
http://ohiobitcoin.com/ob1-ceo-brian-hoffman-explains-levels-of-anonymity-in-openbazaar/

Not sure about this Hoffman character. Also the nodeJS/python client/server architecture is bloated - I don't want to run all of this (likely insecure) shit on my machine. Sorry if it's a harsh review.

Hey, good catch. I did not realize they were UDP and incompatible with Tor. He did mention i2p as a possible future option.

Thanks. The info was not readily available as the architecture of OB is not easily discernable. It might be possible to run the OB Server on a remote host and send the client REST requests over the net, but I doubt this traffic is encrypted, or even secure...

I'm warming up to Hoffman slightly after watching this interview:
http://thisweekinstartups.com/brian-hoffman-openbazaar-bitcoin/

I think he simply forked Taaki's distributed market proof of concept code (DarkMarket), hired a dev team, and got some rich VCs to fund him. Given his VC backing, I doubt privacy will be a high priority... He mentions in the interview that he seeks to monetize the software by handling arbitration, escrow, etc. for a fee. Perhaps selling the customer/vendor data is also a stealth plan...

 


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: West man on April 05, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

It is totally ugly.  It reminds me of dungeons and dragons.  Dark and cold look.  What a piece of shit.  Will fail for certain.  Where can I buy a put option?
Give it time to evolve. What do you think the bigger websites start out as. What they are today overnight?
Come one let it get it's self established then they can worry about putting makeup on and looking pretty for the customers. What they want first and foremost is results in what the site is sposse to created for, SALES.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Bitcotalk on April 05, 2016, 08:34:15 PM
Wow! amazing, bitcoin is taking over every company/service available on internet, it is called as on the path of success, bitcoin is going to firm its roots,. Now people should have to stop saying that bitcoin is going to die.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: lolgato1 on April 05, 2016, 08:36:54 PM
If will never beat eBay unless fiat gets beaten. I decided to look at it it looks very clean to the edges and the software Is not overly huge providing it easy to move.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BellaBitBit on April 05, 2016, 08:43:36 PM
The interface is nice, during a test everything went well.  It is pretty intuitive to list and buy.  Things like this need time, I too hope to not be a seller on Ebay!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: KenR on April 05, 2016, 09:02:54 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

The point and or the concept is not to beat Ebay but have a decentralized system which is not monitored and controlled.Ebay has private owners/customer support/ and an entire set of selling rules .OpenBaazar doesn't have any,you can pretty much sale your pubic hair or a fetus ,your trade won't be monitored.In the long run,there will be trade policies I guess.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Wapinter on April 05, 2016, 09:27:30 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .
Happy to hear that first peer to peer market Openbazzar has started functioning.I haven't started selling or buying anything yet there but I will make use of it when I will have anything to buy or sell.I have a question,Will openbazaar act as escrow?How is buyers and sellers protected in Openbazaar?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 05, 2016, 09:32:46 PM
I have a question,Will openbazaar act as escrow?How is buyers and sellers protected in Openbazaar?

the escrow will be the users. and escrowed transactions will use 2 of 3 multi-signature address.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: btvGainer on April 05, 2016, 10:01:29 PM
It would be an exaggeration to say that Openbazaar would going to give ebay run for their money.The idea of p2p marketplace is great and exciting but it's a long way before it become a challenge to ebay or any other e-ecommerce website


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: DimensionZ on April 05, 2016, 10:28:46 PM
I think it's a little bit far-fetched that OpenBazaar will beat Ebay in terms of customers traffic or deals closed however it's a step in the right direction for decentralized Bitcoin auction sites. Perhaps with time OpenBazaar will become the leading Bitcoin exchange for physical goods and being open-source and free of any fees will only help them to achieve a greater success.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 05, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
The interface doesn't look nice. It's too dark, and the first available products aren't much exciting either, it' doesn't look professional. Then a major turn-off is that to use it you have to download a big file. I'd be happy to sell stuff via OpenBazaar though. I just wish it would look more like Amazon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BitHodler on April 05, 2016, 11:07:25 PM
The interface doesn't look nice. It's too dark, and the first available products aren't much exciting either, it' doesn't look professional. Then a major turn-off is that to use it you have to download a big file. I'd be happy to sell stuff via OpenBazaar though. I just wish it would look more like Amazon.

I have the same exact thoughts on how it looks right now. It's quite amateurish to be precise.

I really do hope that they will give the UI a massive change to make it look more professional and inviting.

Let's give it some months to develop itself even further, and the more time goes by, the more stuff will be listed for sale.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: xuan87 on April 05, 2016, 11:41:19 PM
My first impression is  i am excited, this is the new step of bitcoin development, yes the interface looks its not that good, and still need a lot of improvement, but at least now there is a market place that accept bitcoin payment, so i think this is a good beginning


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: chek2fire on April 05, 2016, 11:55:59 PM
I like very much the OpenBazaar idea and the programme how is today and how will be in the future. Today i will do my first purchase :D


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Amph on April 06, 2016, 06:44:29 AM
i'm curious how are they going to deal with customs charge for international shipping, what if the receiver, lies about the customs charge? are they adopting the ebey politic?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: mightyghz on April 06, 2016, 06:49:06 AM
I like it and I will definitely use it


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: helloeverybody on April 06, 2016, 06:49:13 AM
open bazaar is definitely going to help bitcoin since it now makes it a lot easier to buy and sell using bitcoin. So far ive noticed it can be a bit slow and sometimes refuses to show me any vendors  but in the beginning ebay wasnt perfect either. I will be using ob over ebay anyway , i just hope enough people will buy from it to give iot a decent user base.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: NorrisK on April 06, 2016, 06:51:21 AM
i'm curious how are they going to deal with customs charge for international shipping, what if the receiver, lies about the customs charge? are they adopting the ebey politic?

Isn't it also the buyers responsibility to be aware of customs charge? I mean, on the customs website you can find exactly what you need to pay on certain goods above a certain threshold, so it should not be a surprise to the buyers ever if there is a customs charge.

I guess it will be a wild west in that regard, people buying stuff and getting unexpected charges, but that will be known soon enough.

As for taking on ebay, I guess it will mainly fill a niche market for controversial goods and stuff people rather remain pseudo anonymous for. Until fiat collapses, I don't see people buying bitcoin to buy stuff they could've bought on ebay with a credit card for the same price.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 06, 2016, 06:56:00 AM
The interface is a bit dark, but I think the pretty look can still be looked at later. The main thing now is, to have a workable solution and a alternative to centralized services. This is still early days and we will have to wait and see how this will be adopted in the long run.

The general public is so used to services like eBay and Amazon and do not understand why a service like this is needed. As soon as they realize what disruptive option this is, and what degree of freedom it brings to the market place, they will adopt it sooner. ^smile^


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: avikz on April 06, 2016, 06:56:06 AM
Good to hear that openbazar has finally started operation!

But why a web version is not available? Why do I need to download an app to use openbazar. This way, it is impossible to beat ebay, or any other ecommerce sites.

Developers of openbazar should think about it and make it available in the web so that people can start using it with ease.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BellaBitBit on April 06, 2016, 07:03:24 AM
Good to hear that openbazar has finally started operation!

But why a web version is not available? Why do I need to download an app to use openbazar. This way, it is impossible to beat ebay, or any other ecommerce sites.

Developers of openbazar should think about it and make it available in the web so that people can start using it with ease.

A web version kills the purpose of OpenBazaar.  A web version would make it centralized. Open Bazaar is a decentralized technology because the user hosts their own store on their own computer/device.  The download and installation is not difficult and novices could use it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: doublemore on April 06, 2016, 09:04:21 AM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

Right now ebay is busy beating itself btw.  I dont think we can beat ebay like markets but that is due to google ads.  I am hoping we can create a proper solid market place which i can use instead of ebay.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: calkob on April 06, 2016, 09:26:06 AM
What am i doing wrong every thing i search for comes back no results, is it just because there is so little traffic at the mo.  how do i just browse?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 06, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
What am i doing wrong every thing i search for comes back no results, is it just because there is so little traffic at the mo.  how do i just browse?

there should be something called "filtered listings". turn it off. though there are not many stores online ATM.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: eternalgloom on April 06, 2016, 10:45:39 AM
Based on this current version, I don't think it could compete with Ebay yet. I'd be happy if there are like 1000+ stores on there with a good selection of interesting physical items.
I think they need to work on their UI, I'm not a big fan of it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bitbunnny on April 06, 2016, 11:04:55 AM
I don't think that the goal of the OpenBazaar is to compete with eBay, they have different concept.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Denker on April 06, 2016, 11:07:20 AM
Based on this current version, I don't think it could compete with Ebay yet. I'd be happy if there are like 1000+ stores on there with a good selection of interesting physical items.
I think they need to work on their UI, I'm not a big fan of it.

Of course it will not be able to compete with ebay.And I don't think this is the goal. This is just the first version and improvements and new features will come over time.
Furthermore the crypto space is way too small at the moment and therefore OB will not be a threat to any of the marketplaces out there.
But it is the first decentralized marketplace on top of Bitcoin which is pretty cool and more interesting things will come.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: ed_teech on April 06, 2016, 11:09:19 AM
Mine couldn't boot up. Stuck in preparing for around 30 minutes (told me estimated time was 30 seconds). I checked the debug log and it was full of no neighbor found warnings. Maybe my location (Iran) is too far away ??


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: chek2fire on April 06, 2016, 11:09:27 AM
i just do my first purchase from there :) This market is really a bazaar. It has so many things to buy


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Wendigo on April 06, 2016, 11:13:29 AM
i'm curious how are they going to deal with customs charge for international shipping, what if the receiver, lies about the customs charge? are they adopting the ebey politic?

If you mean who will pay the VAT tax if the buyer is in the European Union and the seller is overseas in the USA for example then I suppose the seller is only liable for the shipping costs to the country where the buyer is based in. Any additional customs taxes are the buyer's responsibility. As it's peer-to-peer trading everything regarding the shipping costs and customs taxes should be agreed upon before the deal is finalized so there won't be any nasty surprises when the goods arrive.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 06, 2016, 12:56:14 PM
Mine couldn't boot up. Stuck in preparing for around 30 minutes (told me estimated time was 30 seconds). I checked the debug log and it was full of no neighbor found warnings. Maybe my location (Iran) is too far away ??

that happened to me too but then I found out that I need to set a permission for it (in my case a window popped out asking me to allow/disallow it).

also for those who have issues searching for listings, I just found out that we can search them using external sites like https://bazaarbay.org/ .


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Boosterious on April 06, 2016, 01:31:36 PM
sastified with this bitcoin project,its amazing free market for undecetralized currency,people that use bitcoin will have own market with so many product and seller,lets party with our payment.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Amph on April 06, 2016, 02:06:34 PM
i just do my first purchase from there :) This market is really a bazaar. It has so many things to buy

i didn't found so many worth item to buy maybe the supplement, i was looking for electronic stuff not much going on there, it still need some times before we can actually buy somethingthat is usual on other market


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Kprawn on April 06, 2016, 02:33:54 PM
I have two issues with OpenBazaar : One - The decision to make moderators the escrow... I would much rather have people, who already built up a good reputation to handle the escrow side of

things. Who knows, some of these people might be moderators already? Two - The concept might be too difficult to understand for the average user. You must remember that the

average user are comparing this {OpenBazaar} with what they know. {eBay} and they might get confused. Things must be made idiot proof for migration from the old to the new to begin.  ::)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 06, 2016, 02:37:06 PM
^
this is like the 10th time I've said this. the moderators are simply users. similar to bitcointalk escrows. you can become a moderator the moment you created an account.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bakingbad on April 06, 2016, 07:48:16 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

i didn't started too, but  i am planning too, and no i didn't buy anything now too yet, but site looks awesome,  i found lots of good thing  i plan to buy

and of course that it can beat ebay because it's easier to use and most important part is that you can pay with bitcoins and not fiat, that's really important


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: gentlemand on April 06, 2016, 07:53:23 PM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 06, 2016, 08:59:37 PM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.

Lol do you even Bitcoin? :D


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 06, 2016, 09:43:04 PM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.

Lol do you even Bitcoin? :D

You mean does he use exchanges/web wallets/mining pools/BitPay/other payment processors/Bitcoin ATms & just about everything ordinary BTC users rely on?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: knowhow on April 06, 2016, 10:06:42 PM
Well i will give a try at it i didnt know we needed to download the program,i thinked would be like ebay an webpage with everything on it anyway its time to see the project that took a lot time to be developed and ready.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 06, 2016, 11:07:12 PM
i'm curious how are they going to deal with customs charge for international shipping, what if the receiver, lies about the customs charge? are they adopting the ebey politic?

If I understand OB, it will not care at all about that. Everything will be between the buyer and the seller, without OB having any responsibility in the deals, which are private. OB won't even know the nature of the deal. That's the wild, wild West...


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Junko on April 06, 2016, 11:53:09 PM
It's absurd to think OpenBazaar will beat ebay anytime soon or in the near future. ebay has been around for such a relatively long time. And then there's Amazon to also compete with.

That being said, you have to start somewhere. There will be growing pains and kinks to work out here and there along the way, but I think OB will eventually thrive given time. What's the rush anyway?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: DarkStar_ on April 07, 2016, 12:10:16 AM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.
You need to run an actual program (web browser) to use amazon or ebay. Think about how many people with computers use a web browser. I'm betting it's more the 99%.



OpenBazaar seems like an interesting concept. At first glance, the screenshots make the program look pretty good (can't say for sure, since I didn't download it). It's nice that they use multi-sig addresses, but the seller, who wants to scam could use another computer and become a moderator for his own deal, which is the risk of 2 of 3. The Mod could also be bribed if it is a large amount that would be worth stealing.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: gentlemand on April 07, 2016, 12:23:09 AM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.
You need to run an actual program (web browser) to use amazon or ebay. Think about how many people with computers use a web browser. I'm betting it's more the 99%.



Browsers are used to access absolutely everything. If I had to fire up a new program for every site I'd abandon the internet. Sure, a few eggheads are going to go for it. Regular humans won't even dream of it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 07, 2016, 06:31:03 AM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.
You need to run an actual program (web browser) to use amazon or ebay. Think about how many people with computers use a web browser. I'm betting it's more the 99%.



Browsers are used to access absolutely everything. If I had to fire up a new program for every site I'd abandon the internet. Sure, a few eggheads are going to go for it. Regular humans won't even dream of it.

I disagree, we already use other programs to access different services and they are in no way linked to the browser. Let's take access to other P2P networks like torrents for example. You access the listings on a web site and then download the content via torrent software. How is this any different than what OpenBazaar are doing?

The same goes for your mobile phone. How many Apps are downloaded per day to enable people to access services not offered on their phones or built in browser. People will download Apps, if they want to use a service.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Amph on April 07, 2016, 06:53:19 AM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.

at least the same that are running the bitcoin client will run this client, and many gamers also or tech savy enough will run it

average joe will be forced when bitcoin will be big enough, not that time for the moment...


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: KenR on April 07, 2016, 06:56:30 AM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.

at least the same that are running the bitcoin client will run this client, and many gamers also or tech savy enough will run it

average joe will be forced when bitcoin will be big enough, not that time for the moment...

What could the third party decentralized application can probably do to your machine ? lol ? Most of the world operates on the system laid by corporate slaves ,you're a part of it.Either support the good or end up living life paying the service taxes.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: quentincole32 on April 07, 2016, 07:30:17 AM
i'm curious how are they going to deal with customs charge for international shipping, what if the receiver, lies about the customs charge? are they adopting the ebey politic?
for first time i was thought it,i wonder how deal with it,but i now i think open bazaar will not take any responsibility about fraud or if peoplelies each other,its pure seller and costumer responsbility.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 07, 2016, 07:37:46 AM
i'm curious how are they going to deal with customs charge for international shipping, what if the receiver, lies about the customs charge? are they adopting the ebey politic?
for first time i was thought it,i wonder how deal with it,but i now i think open bazaar will not take any responsibility about fraud or if peoplelies each other,its pure seller and costumer responsbility.

It's peer to peer , of course they don't take any responsibility .


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: lumeire on April 07, 2016, 07:51:11 AM
The thing is I still can't get it to work, as far as I'm concerned. I'm trying to look for my store using another PC, and yes it's seeding from my laptop and I can't seem to find it. IMO it still has a lot to improve on.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: buddu on April 07, 2016, 08:06:11 AM
I heard about OpenBazaar first time back in 2014.I have been waiting for it to see what positive changes it brings in gigital market.I have download it from the very first day but didn't make any transaction yet.It looks impressive so far.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 07, 2016, 08:17:59 AM
I've just installed OB, I didn't like that I had to choose a country. I chose Switzerland, even though I'm not Swiss, nor do I live there, but because it's neutral. I wish I could remove that geographical indication.

Then I had to choose a theme. I would like to be able to create my own.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: choppork on April 07, 2016, 08:31:48 AM
I am impressed by the design. I love the idea of opening a shop in your own profile. Its basically like the famous social media sites (fb, twitter, IG) because there's the follow button but the thing is you get the chance of opening your own shop in your own profile. I personally like it, the thing I did not like is that you have to download the application.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 07, 2016, 08:32:39 AM
I CAN'T USE OB!

I hadn't realized it with so many people comparing OB to Ebay, but you can't compare the 2 services, because OB don't have servers. It's peer-to-peer, with your OB store, if you want to have one, actually saved on your own computer. Meaning that if you want to have a store running 24/7, you need to have YOUR computer running 24/7. So, you can't travel...

Gosh, I know how P2P work but with so many people stupidly comparing OB with Ebay, I had forgotten it. I guess there's an opportunity to sell hosting services via BTC.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 07, 2016, 08:39:51 AM
Like everything so far it's going to need third parties to thrive. Very, very few people are going to run an actual program on their machines. That's not how most of the world operates.
You need to run an actual program (web browser) to use amazon or ebay. Think about how many people with computers use a web browser. I'm betting it's more the 99%.



Browsers are used to access absolutely everything. If I had to fire up a new program for every site I'd abandon the internet. Sure, a few eggheads are going to go for it. Regular humans won't even dream of it.

presumably you use the mobile Safari browser to access your Facebook, Instagram & Snapchat accounts on your iPhone?

and, do you even Bitcoin?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: eternalgloom on April 07, 2016, 09:00:51 AM
Based on this current version, I don't think it could compete with Ebay yet. I'd be happy if there are like 1000+ stores on there with a good selection of interesting physical items.
I think they need to work on their UI, I'm not a big fan of it.

Of course it will not be able to compete with ebay.And I don't think this is the goal. This is just the first version and improvements and new features will come over time.
Furthermore the crypto space is way too small at the moment and therefore OB will not be a threat to any of the marketplaces out there.
But it is the first decentralized marketplace on top of Bitcoin which is pretty cool and more interesting things will come.
Oh yeah, I think it would be awesome even if it just remained a niche alternative to Ebay. Is there any way to see any statistics on purchases etc.?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 07, 2016, 05:20:31 PM
...
presumably you use the mobile Safari browser to access your Facebook, Instagram & Snapchat accounts on your iPhone?

and, do you even Bitcoin?

Can you even run OB on an iPhone?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 07, 2016, 05:24:56 PM
Who said that you could?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: RodeoX on April 07, 2016, 05:37:56 PM
Anybody got this running on Ubuntu?  I was hoping to get it running stand-alone, but no luck so far.  :(


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Kartikay on April 07, 2016, 05:38:23 PM
I am so happy!!  :D
Now we can finally use bitcoins without paying excessive fee. This is a productive step towards increasing bitcoin user database.
I have not started using it yet. But very soon I will purchase few items.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 07, 2016, 05:38:33 PM
Who said that you could?
Why'd you bring it up? A non sequitur?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 07, 2016, 05:40:59 PM
I was replying to someone who evoked it. Problem?



@ gentlemand


Tell your weirdo troll friend to get a life


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 07, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
Who said that you could?
Why'd you bring it up? A non sequitur?

I was replying to someone who evoked it. Problem?

Hmm, must've missed it. Link plz?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: yenxz on April 07, 2016, 06:27:59 PM
I heard about OpenBazaar first time back in 2014.I have been waiting for it to see what positive changes it brings in gigital market.I have download it from the very first day but didn't make any transaction yet.It looks impressive so far.
honstly i dont really understand about open bazaar concept,i just open the blog and site,but still not get it,i just se download button. can you tell me what have you downloaded?whta's file?can you explain how its work until i can use it,thanks.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: AGD on April 07, 2016, 07:03:35 PM
OpenBazaar is the next internet revolution after Bitcoin. Fasten your seat belts, we are ready to take off!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: WeSellHyips on April 07, 2016, 07:07:24 PM
Listed a few items on OpenBazaar, love it so far, there's improvement to be made but for a first public release it has a lot of potential.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: defined on April 07, 2016, 07:18:47 PM
The interface doesn't look nice. It's too dark, and the first available products aren't much exciting either, it' doesn't look professional. Then a major turn-off is that to use it you have to download a big file. I'd be happy to sell stuff via OpenBazaar though. I just wish it would look more like Amazon.
I do not mind the size of the download, but I do not like installing 'untrusted' applications on my computer. And there are not many suppliers I trust for software. It would help if it is a standard package in the Ubuntu Repository. If it is, I know at least some people who know more about security than me have looked into it and approved it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 07, 2016, 07:20:32 PM
The interface doesn't look nice. It's too dark, and the first available products aren't much exciting either, it' doesn't look professional. Then a major turn-off is that to use it you have to download a big file. I'd be happy to sell stuff via OpenBazaar though. I just wish it would look more like Amazon.

it's just 70MB...


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BruceLee007 on April 07, 2016, 07:25:01 PM
my first impressions are pretty great to be honest, i really like the whole thing how it looks and i believe that it will be a good trading platform

in my opinion i will use it in the future when i will have a little bit more bitcoins than i do right now i hope this will not take a lot of time for me to make some profit


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: broseph on April 07, 2016, 08:21:43 PM
Couldn't get it to work, guess I'll wait for another less buggy release.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: iv4n on April 07, 2016, 09:11:29 PM
Couldn't get it to work, guess I'll wait for another less buggy release.

Doesn't work for me too also. I couldn't connect after half an hour of trying.
I was excited to try it, but what to do. We will need to wait some update or new release.
I hope everything will be ok soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: doof on April 07, 2016, 10:43:37 PM
I like it.  Its not an eBay competitor, its different.  I like opening up the app and discovering new merchants and items.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: AGD on April 08, 2016, 06:26:04 AM
Couldn't get it to work, guess I'll wait for another less buggy release.

Doesn't work for me too also. I couldn't connect after half an hour of trying.
I was excited to try it, but what to do. We will need to wait some update or new release.
I hope everything will be ok soon.

Running perfect with me: ob://b7ebfbe0663ae93eff2d3e803463894674743408/store


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 08, 2016, 06:54:16 AM
The interface doesn't look nice. It's too dark, and the first available products aren't much exciting either, it' doesn't look professional. Then a major turn-off is that to use it you have to download a big file. I'd be happy to sell stuff via OpenBazaar though. I just wish it would look more like Amazon.

it's just 70MB...

81.8 MB so it's quite substantial. It's larger than Mozilla Firefox and Multibit put together, and you can't ignore that you don't need to download anything to use Ebay or Amazon. I guess there should 2 versions of the software. A very light one, then a big one to those who have something to sell.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: RussianRaibow on April 08, 2016, 08:20:53 AM
I'm a little disappointed.  I signed up for the email list that was supposed to inform merchants about the launch so that they could be ready with a store already setup for the launch.  I never got the email, but I began seeing many posts about how OB had already launched!  I still have not tried it out yet, but I am really looking forward to it.  I just wish I could have been ready in time.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: qiwoman2 on April 08, 2016, 08:36:00 AM
It looks quite interesting to me and it can help traders and producers of various goods and services to open their trading to a market of people they never thought they could market to before who also have a lot of Bitcoin to spend on products and services. Personally this could only be a good thing and I will certainly pass it around to a few people I know who produce things.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Bitcoinpro on April 08, 2016, 08:47:49 AM


this is like the next greatest invetion after Crypto

and its complementary


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: defined on April 08, 2016, 09:59:53 AM
81.8 MB so it's quite substantial. It's larger than Mozilla Firefox and Multibit put together, and you can't ignore that you don't need to download anything to use Ebay or Amazon. I guess there should 2 versions of the software. A very light one, then a big one to those who have something to sell.
Are you using a PC or a phone? My Firefox browser cache alone is much bigger than 80 MB.
I am getting curious after all the feedback, so I will try it on an old laptop

I am intrigued how this works on P2P. https://blog.openbazaar.org/what-is-openbazaar/ :
Quote
When you publish that listing, it is sent out to the distributed p2p network of other people using OpenBazaar. Anyone who searches for the keywords you’ve used—laptop, electronics, etc—will find your listing.
How will this work with millions of advertisements? How does the network search for the keyword? Does every user download the entire list of articles for sale?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 01:16:22 PM
...
I am intrigued how this works on P2P. https://blog.openbazaar.org/what-is-openbazaar/ :
Quote
When you publish that listing, it is sent out to the distributed p2p network of other people using OpenBazaar. Anyone who searches for the keywords you’ve used—laptop, electronics, etc—will find your listing.
How will this work with millions of advertisements? How does the network search for the keyword? Does every user download the entire list of articles for sale?

Not too well, apparently :(

http://s9.postimg.org/e7smd436n/Capture.png

Here's a browser search front end for OB https://bazaarbay.org (not really up for installing an unknown app).


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 08, 2016, 01:46:43 PM
...
I am intrigued how this works on P2P. https://blog.openbazaar.org/what-is-openbazaar/ :
Quote
When you publish that listing, it is sent out to the distributed p2p network of other people using OpenBazaar. Anyone who searches for the keywords you’ve used—laptop, electronics, etc—will find your listing.
How will this work with millions of advertisements? How does the network search for the keyword? Does every user download the entire list of articles for sale?

Not too well, apparently :(

http://s9.postimg.org/e7smd436n/Capture.png

Here's a browser search front end for OB https://bazaarbay.org (not really up for installing an unknown app).

And that's why It's "Open source" so you are ready to install an unknown app .


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on April 08, 2016, 01:54:16 PM


this is like the next greatest invetion after Crypto

and its complementary

It looks great but I'm going to sit & wait until it gets a bigger userbase & more trust before I dip my toes in.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 01:56:11 PM
...
I am intrigued how this works on P2P. https://blog.openbazaar.org/what-is-openbazaar/ :
Quote
When you publish that listing, it is sent out to the distributed p2p network of other people using OpenBazaar. Anyone who searches for the keywords you’ve used—laptop, electronics, etc—will find your listing.
How will this work with millions of advertisements? How does the network search for the keyword? Does every user download the entire list of articles for sale?

Not too well, apparently :(

http://s9.postimg.org/e7smd436n/Capture.png

Here's a browser search front end for OB https://bazaarbay.org (not really up for installing an unknown app).

And that's why It's "Open source" so you are ready to install an unknown app .

Why in the world would I want to spend days auditing code/eliminating possible attack vectors, just to install something of dubious value? What fresh craziness is this?
Did *you* audit the code before installing?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: merelcoin on April 08, 2016, 01:58:28 PM
it doesn't want to start the default server on my local machine, and it doesn't want to connect to the server i installed on my VPS. probably my company's network service.
I'll try on my home computer this evening, but so far, it doesn't look good in the usability section ;)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: pereira4 on April 08, 2016, 03:31:06 PM
I checked it out briefly the other day, and there wasn't much stuff to buy yet. It will take a couple of months until we see a decent amount of stuff being sold. As soon as people see the benefits of using this over other methods it will just keep growing itself due snowball effect. I m going to wait a while before using it myself.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: RodeoX on April 08, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
I hope this keeps developing. I found the search feature to be very poor. And some of the prices were absurd. Look at the example below.

https://bazaarbay.org/151da9f848720b160a005957f7b5294964290ae2/listing/f91fe2e3c72c298b383c0ae0b9a7328fb1dbdfee

They are asking $330 for 100 rounds of .556 TulAmmo. That is $3.30 per round for shitty steel case ammo. Please.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: longbob72 on April 08, 2016, 08:10:17 PM
I hope this keeps developing. I found the search feature to be very poor. And some of the prices were absurd. Look at the example below.

https://bazaarbay.org/151da9f848720b160a005957f7b5294964290ae2/listing/f91fe2e3c72c298b383c0ae0b9a7328fb1dbdfee

They are asking $330 for 100 rounds of .556 TulAmmo. That is $3.30 per round for shitty steel case ammo. Please.

for the search you can use bazaarbay.org. it's much more better than trying to search with tags.
and I agree that some of the prices are absurd (not really talking about the ammo specifically because I have no experience with that) but it's still on early stage so there may be some improvements soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: idev on April 08, 2016, 08:12:49 PM
Have not used it yet but it looks awesome. Can't wait to give it a try out soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 08, 2016, 08:27:23 PM
81.8 MB so it's quite substantial. It's larger than Mozilla Firefox and Multibit put together, and you can't ignore that you don't need to download anything to use Ebay or Amazon. I guess there should 2 versions of the software. A very light one, then a big one to those who have something to sell.
Are you using a PC or a phone? My Firefox browser cache alone is much bigger than 80 MB.
I am getting curious after all the feedback, so I will try it on an old laptop

Of course! I'm not talking about the sizes of cache files, I'm talking about the sizes of the software to download. Firefox is probably 45 MB.

Besides, OB is not working anymore. I'm not in the same place where I installed it, and it cannot connect. "Unable to connect to your server"

Anyone knows what port it uses, so I can check it's open?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: beastmodeBiscuitGravy on April 08, 2016, 08:31:49 PM
If Lightening Networks can be half as successful as Open Bazarre, things will be looking good for this coin, and price will raise. There like peenut butter and jams.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 08:33:58 PM
If Lightening Networks can be half as successful as Open Bazarre, things will be looking good for this coin, and price will raise. There like peenut butter and jams.

Yes, Open Bizarre is gonna be bigger than the internet!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 08, 2016, 08:37:23 PM
Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: KenR on April 08, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
Then it tries to help me delete system32. Is this normal?

It's not a normal behavior.Did you download the correct application ? System32 is your main system file,deleting which,your computer may never start and result in formatting your driver.However ,I could not make out how come Harddisk space and system 32 has to do with each other ? Are you using a Virtual PC ?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Hellacopter on April 08, 2016, 08:49:50 PM
I think it's good to see another great decentralized marketplace which support Bitcoin as payment processor; that's will help the bitcoin's community a lot to spread the word about this powerful crypto currency as well


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 08, 2016, 08:52:21 PM
Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


close it from taskbar.


It's not a normal behavior.Did you download the correct application ? System32 is your main system file,deleting which,your computer may never start and result in formatting your driver.However ,I could not make out how come Harddisk space and system 32 has to do with each other ? Are you using a Virtual PC ?

ignore that lunatic. he's a troll.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: nejibens on April 08, 2016, 09:27:07 PM
I think it's deserve a try, that's good to see a open source marketplace supporting Bitcoin as payment method


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: KenR on April 08, 2016, 09:30:45 PM
I think it's deserve a try, that's good to see a open source marketplace supporting Bitcoin as payment method

a] It is a decentralized market place

b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment

c]You should be trying the app before commenting here as the title says "first impressions"


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 08, 2016, 09:31:06 PM
I have not used it and thus can't make a real comment on it.   What's stopping me from using it at the moment is that I only have my phone for internet--and the whole thing sounds great except for the part about your computer needs to be always running for your store to be open.  That's good for buyers I'm sure, and big sellers, but I would not want to operate that way.  Ebay is great for that and I still use it, but their fees are fucking outrageous.  I'm sure all of you know that, plus the whole PayPal thing.

I would like to check out OB if/when I get a new desktop computer.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 09:43:01 PM
... b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment ...

http://s14.postimg.org/vpp99df35/Capture.png

 ???

... Ebay is great for that and I still use it, but their fees are fucking outrageous.  I'm sure all of you know that, plus the whole PayPal thing.

I would like to check out OB if/when I get a new desktop computer.

Think of the money you save by not needing a new desktop computer tho :)
P.S. You don't have to use PP on eBay you know. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/choosing-a-payment-method-on-ebay.html


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 08, 2016, 09:49:45 PM
... b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment ...

http://s14.postimg.org/vpp99df35/Capture.png

 ???

you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: KenR on April 08, 2016, 09:53:52 PM
snipe

I don't have an option to pay from my currency,it shows bitcoins by default.When I open the app and see the default items on list ,the bitcoin pins I guess,the amount is shown in bitcoins.Not sure if there is a way to modify it.However its better with bitcoins right,anonymous and decentralized.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 09:54:47 PM
...
you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.

Are you sure? How would this even be enforced? By whom?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 08, 2016, 10:09:53 PM
...
you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.

Are you sure? How would this even be enforced?

well I'm not sure how to answer that. I guess it can't be enforced.
but if someone bought something using some other currency outside of OpenBazaar (they only allow btc transaction) they won't be able leave a review because you're only allowed to leave a review when there's a record of the bitcoin transaction (not sure how it works in-depth).

snipe

I don't have an option to pay from my currency,it shows bitcoins by default.When I open the app and see the default items on list ,the bitcoin pins I guess,the amount is shown in bitcoins.Not sure if there is a way to modify it.However its better with bitcoins right,anonymous and decentralized.


replace you and your in my post you quoted with the sellers and you'll get what I said.  ;)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 10:23:14 PM
...
you have an option to use your local currency as your price. but people still have to pay in btc.

Are you sure? How would this even be enforced?

well I'm not sure how to answer that. I guess it can't be enforced.
but if someone bought something using some other currency outside of OpenBazaar (they only allow btc transaction) they won't be able leave a review because you're only allowed to leave a review when there's a record of the bitcoin transaction (not sure how it works in-depth). ...

Found it.
If you both agree to a price, the client creates a contract between you both with your digital signatures, and sends it to a third party called a moderator. These moderators are also folks on the OpenBazaar network—could be your neighbor or someone across the world—who the buyer and seller trust in case something goes wrong. The third party witnesses the contract and creates a multisignature Bitcoin account (multisig) that requires two of three people to agree before the Bitcoin can be released.

The buyer then sends the agreed upon amount to the multisig address. You get a notification saying the buyer has sent the funds, and you ship the laptop to them and mark that it has been shipped. The buyer receives it a few days later, and they mark it received, which releases the funds from multisig to you. You got your Bitcoin, the buyer got the laptop; no fees paid, no one stopped your trade, everyone’s happy.
What if something goes wrong?

As we all know, things don’t always go smoothly. What if you’re buying a certain book from a seller, you pay the multisig, and they ship you the wrong one, or it was in poorer condition than advertised, or they don’t even send a product at all?

This is where the third party comes in. Remember that a multisig requires two of three people to agree in order to move the Bitcoin. They control the third key to the multisig, so the funds will not move until either the buyer and seller work out an arrangement themselves, or the third party agrees with either the buyer or seller on how to deal with the transaction and funds in multisig.

Note to self:
1. become 100 moderators on OB
2. Sell laptops; send bricks.
3. ? ? ?
4. Profit!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: mayax on April 08, 2016, 10:25:28 PM
it's a crap who will end like a crap  ;D


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 08, 2016, 10:28:26 PM
-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  :-\
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 08, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
... b]It only supports bitcoin as its primary payment ...

http://s14.postimg.org/vpp99df35/Capture.png

 ???

... Ebay is great for that and I still use it, but their fees are fucking outrageous.  I'm sure all of you know that, plus the whole PayPal thing.

I would like to check out OB if/when I get a new desktop computer.

Think of the money you save by not needing a new desktop computer tho :)
P.S. You don't have to use PP on eBay you know. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/choosing-a-payment-method-on-ebay.html
I do thank you for that link, I'll take a look at it tonight.  I don't sell much there because of the fees, but they are super convenient.

I have to get a desktop PC.  Why?  Are they totally out of style now?  It's the only fitting thing for a die-hard recluse, methinks.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: KenR on April 08, 2016, 10:36:43 PM
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  ::) I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 08, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  :-\
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 10:52:12 PM
-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  :-\
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay :-\


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 08, 2016, 11:04:18 PM
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  ::) I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 08, 2016, 11:41:46 PM
-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  :-\
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay :-\


Yep, you're a statist coporate sheep alright. Do you even Bitcoin? Can you reply without lying/trolling? The answer's "no", isn't it


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 11:50:06 PM
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  ::) I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.

Ubuntu is a popular flavor of Linux, a PC operating system.  The good thing about Linux is it's free, and has plenty of free software that's almost, though not quite, as good as the fancy store-bought (or pirated) Windows counterpart. It's also much easier to tinker with, since it's [mostly] open source.
OTOH, it's unlikely that you are a tinkerer if you don't own a computer, and most pretty much all computers come with Windows pre-installed when you buy them.
If it matters, less than 2% of laptops/desktops use Linux (so ~1 in 100 computers runs Ubuntu).
http://s30.postimg.org/e9t9w6dy9/Capture.gif
So I'd say brave the outside & buy yourself a cheap new laptop if you have the money, cheap used crappy laptop if you don't, and a cheap desktop (remember, you also need to buy a monitor [screen, display], mouse & keyboard & a cheap wifi adapter for that) if really broke.
Plus side: Life will become 100% better.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 08, 2016, 11:54:17 PM
-snipe-

that's... disturbing.  :-\
unless they do something about that, people will have to rely on a really trusted users from outside of OB.
though that article you quoted doesn't have anything to do with what I said. you don't need to use a moderator to leave a review.

Chicken or egg problem. They have no choice but to have overly permissive access to mod/arbitrator accounts, as potential sellers cannot even build up good feedback scores from buying from other sellers (because no-one has an OB tx history). Think about it: this problem will only have been worse for the early eBay, and their early customers probably solved the problem the same way you're thinking.

Early eBay didn't base its business on anonymity -- the parties involved were (at least in theory) known to a trusted third party called eBay.
Given a choice of trusting Anon from the interweb or a registered business with IRL address and stuff... well... call me a statist corporate sheep, but I feel a touch safer wit eBay :-\


Yep, you're a statist coporate sheep alright. Do you even Bitcoin? Can you reply without lying/trolling? The answer's "no", isn't it

Carlton my boy, odds are I sold you your first coin. Your recent asshattery on this forum makes it ... well, almost morally justifiable :)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 09, 2016, 12:00:19 AM
Carlton my boy, odds are I sold you your first coin. Your recent asshattery on this forum makes me doing that to you ... well, almost morally justifiable :)

You won't have any qualms proving it then.

Sign a message from a pre-2014 tx and it's possible that someone might believe your "OG Bitcoiner brah" claims. I'm waiting.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 09, 2016, 12:06:44 AM
Carlton my boy, odds are I sold you your first coin. Your recent asshattery on this forum makes me doing that to you ... well, almost morally justifiable :)

You won't have any qualms proving it then.

Sign a message from a pre-2014 tx and it's possible that someone might believe your "OG Bitcoiner brah" claims. I'm waiting.

Waste years of mixing to prove something to Anon from the interweb?  I mean sure, Ross kept a detailed diary, with all of his feels re. hiring zomg a 4realz Angels hitman!!!1, but don't assume everyone is that stupid :D

http://s15.postimg.org/6dl18fna3/ross1.jpg


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Yakamoto on April 09, 2016, 12:07:27 AM
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  ::) I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.
Sounds like you just need to prose /r/pcmasterrace more, you'll get to know a lot of these terms from there fairly quickly.

As for the arguing among us in BTCD, I'll admit that it's probably more fun arguing on the internet anyways, because no-one will remember the argument unless it is brought back up again or someone had a serious issue with the other person (or if you're an SJW).


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: GregH37 on April 09, 2016, 12:15:22 AM
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  ::) I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.

i guesss even though the design is not the one of the prettiest that are out there i believe that it has a still long time to go till the best version of it and hopefully it will be updatedon weekly basis.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 09, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
--snipe--

You might just find a good Desktop for sale at opening ceremony of OpenBaazar  ::) I'd suggest you to go for an assembled Desktop with Ubuntu.
Christ I need to get out more.  I don't even know what Ubuntu is.  Wasn't kidding about being a recluse, and I don't watch TV either and so I don't find out about these things unless I come here.  This section is much nicer than the bitcoin part of bitcointalk.  You guys snipe each other like a mound of bitches but the vibe is much different.

Ubuntu is a popular flavor of Linux, a PC operating system.  The good thing about Linux is it's free, and has plenty of free software that's almost, though not quite, as good as the fancy store-bought (or pirated) Windows counterpart. It's also much easier to tinker with, since it's [mostly] open source.
OTOH, it's unlikely that you are a tinkerer if you don't own a computer, and most pretty much all computers come with Windows pre-installed when you buy them.
If it matters, less than 2% of laptops/desktops use Linux (so ~1 in 100 computers runs Ubuntu).
http://s30.postimg.org/e9t9w6dy9/Capture.gif
So I'd say brave the outside & buy yourself a cheap new laptop if you have the money, cheap used crappy laptop if you don't, and a cheap desktop (remember, you also need to buy a monitor [screen, display], mouse & keyboard & a cheap wifi adapter for that) if really broke.
Plus side: Life will become 100% better.
That is nice, sir, I appreciate it.  I already have a monitor, mouse & keyboard but my ancient Dell has shat the bed.  And my neighbor upstairs moved out, leaving me without cheap wifi.  Money is definitely tight.  But thank you for the explanation about the operating systems.  I am not a tinkerer by any means but this interests me.  I picked the wrong major in college, let me tell you.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 09, 2016, 12:46:53 AM
^^Paste "tethering a phone to a computer" into Google -- solve your wifi problem (will be as slow as your phone, but will cost you zip).
If you're into tinkering, tinker that Dell back to life; if in Big City, plenty of computers at the curb on trash days.
Caveat: must go outside.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 09, 2016, 01:43:15 PM
Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


close it from taskbar.

I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability. I wonder how OB will compete against Ethereum.

I guess success will come from users, if there are enough people offering interesting products or services. Could it be possible to build a new Silk Road market out of OB?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 09, 2016, 02:09:16 PM
Damned thing! It seems I can't even close the software without being connected, which I'm unable to do. There's that full width nav bar on top of the window, but there's nothing on it. I'll have to close it via the Windows' task manager.

Is this still a beta release?


close it from taskbar.

I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability. I wonder how OB will compete against Ethereum.

I guess success will come from users, if there are enough people offering interesting products or services. Could it be possible to build a new Silk Road market out of OB?

OpenBazaar Is Not The Next Silk Road -- It's An Anarchist eBay On Acid
 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/03/16/openbazaar-silk-road-dark-web-drugs-ebay/#3fd9f45a6604)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 09, 2016, 02:13:18 PM
I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 09, 2016, 02:19:14 PM
I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

brb, buying a Mac to run OB :D


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 09, 2016, 03:01:10 PM
I think in my country nobody is selling nothing here... so it's just waste for me  :-\

maybe. but you can still ship stuff from overseas. the shipping fee can be a killer depending on where you live though.

oh and there's also digital goods that can be transferred anywhere.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 09, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
I think in my country nobody is selling nothing here... so it's just waste for me  :-\

maybe. but you can still ship stuff from overseas. the shipping fee can be a killer depending on where you live though.

Not if the stuff's relatively light :)

http://s28.postimg.org/5plne4til/Capture.png


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: GregH37 on April 09, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
Its another good project which involve only bitcoins as the mode of payment.
We need such types of Bazar / Shops to promote bitcoins


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: twister on April 09, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Haven't got a first impression of it since I haven't tried it yet and not so keen on trying it near future either, I'll let others take the tour for now and report on it and then maybe I'll join later. Since I don't buy too much stuff online, I am not too enthused about it, let's see what becomes of it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 09, 2016, 08:14:34 PM
I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

brb, buying a Mac to run OB :D

Maybe it' s another one of those chicken or egg problems, eh?

Need Mac for OB  <-> Need OB for cheap 2nd hand Mac

;D


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 09, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

I don't think we need advertising at all , I mean as a Bitcoiner you will logically search for something that accepts Bitcoin and you will end up finding OpenBazaar .
I googled "Accepts Bitcoin" and didn't find openbazàar. The other user is correct. Advertising is the very next step. If people don't know of your business, it will not succeed.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: gentlemand on April 10, 2016, 12:37:54 AM
I googled "Accepts Bitcoin" and didn't find openbazàar. The other user is correct. Advertising is the very next step. If people don't know of your business, it will not succeed.

I think it needs some stuff ironed out as does Bitcoin itself before it's pushed towards the wider world. Right now I think it's best if it remains in the hands of the believers.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bitcoinbox on April 10, 2016, 01:00:01 AM
Great project. I hope it does encourage people to use bitcoin for other reason than trading or speculation.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on April 10, 2016, 01:02:50 AM
I googled "Accepts Bitcoin" and didn't find openbazàar. The other user is correct. Advertising is the very next step. If people don't know of your business, it will not succeed.
SEO optimization took a quite long time,it'll probably still being optimized right now,although google adwords is really effective way for advertising,should try it out


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Hirose UK on April 10, 2016, 01:04:09 AM
actually I didn't sell anything yet, but I think openbazaar is one of good way in business. we can get good opportunity to earn extra money.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 10, 2016, 01:11:25 AM
I googled "Accepts Bitcoin" and didn't find openbazàar. The other user is correct. Advertising is the very next step. If people don't know of your business, it will not succeed.
SEO optimization took a quite long time,it'll probably still being optimized right now,although google adwords is really effective way for advertising,should try it out

Maybe we should crowdfund some advertising, buy some google ads? :)
We can go to the /services/ sub & commission somebody to raise funds (they could keep 10% for their services), that way it'll cost us nothing.
Isn't that how decentralized stuff works?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on April 10, 2016, 03:22:01 AM
too fast to think to beat ebay, much still needs to be addressed


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Danzing on April 10, 2016, 03:26:54 AM
I installed it today (well, this account was created here too). Very good impression on the first glance. Will be listing a bunch of used items I had to take down from eBay because of ridiculous fees. Still can't figure out how to create backup. Anyone knows?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 10, 2016, 04:29:08 AM
I googled "Accepts Bitcoin" and didn't find openbazàar. The other user is correct. Advertising is the very next step. If people don't know of your business, it will not succeed.

I think it needs some stuff ironed out as does Bitcoin itself before it's pushed towards the wider world. Right now I think it's best if it remains in the hands of the believers.
Are you implying I'm not one of those many believers? Please trust me that I do believe. I am just making the suggestion that there should be more advertisement for these kind of premiering businesses.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bankingbtc on April 10, 2016, 07:31:33 AM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

my first impression is pretty good, on first week there are lots of sellers already, and they sell lots of different stuff, same like in ebay, so i really think that it can beat it it just will take time, i hope that this site won't close, and i also hope that there will be more and more sellers


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bakingbad on April 10, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

yes i already started to sell items and  i even sold them all, well for me it looks like great site, ebay copy just with bitcoins, and i very like for that that it is made for bitcoins users, this will attract more people that will sue bitcoins for sure,  i hope there will be even more sites like this in future


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 10, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

Bad advice! Sorry to point it out, but Windows is the most successful OS on the planet by far, so if OB wants to be successful as well, it needs to work perfectly on Windows. Pleasing Windows users is more important than pleasing Mac users.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 10, 2016, 05:49:08 PM
I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

Bad advice! Sorry to point it out, but Windows is the most successful OS on the planet by far, so if OB wants to be successful as well, it needs to work perfectly on Windows. Pleasing Windows users is more important than pleasing Mac users.

No it isn't. Using Windows for almost anything is unwise for all sorts of other reasons, too many to list, and those reasons are unlikely ever to change not in Microsoft's interest). Window's dominance of the market is not what I would call a success, and comments like only serve to continue the entrenchment.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bargainbin on April 10, 2016, 06:11:17 PM
...
Bad advice! Sorry to point it out, but Windows is the most successful OS on the planet by far, so if OB wants to be successful as well, it needs to work perfectly on Windows. Pleasing Windows users is more important than pleasing Mac users.

No it isn't. Using Windows for almost anything is unwise for all sorts of other reasons, too many to list, and those reasons are unlikely ever to change not in Microsoft's interest). Window's dominance of the market is not what I would call a success, and comments like only serve to continue the entrenchment.
Looks pretty successful to me :-\
...
If it matters, less than 2% of laptops/desktops use Linux (so ~1 in 100 computers runs Ubuntu).
http://s30.postimg.org/e9t9w6dy9/Capture.gif
...

But let's agree to disagree, if ignoring ~90% of potential userbase to minimize the market share is the objective, OB should focus on stable CP/M implementations.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 10, 2016, 08:14:00 PM
It is encouraging that they are open.

  • only the first step in this process, and the software has some limitations
  • Search in OpenBazaar is limited to querying the network for listings tagged with keywords that Vendors have assigned
  • OpenBazaar users don’t have their IP addresses obfuscated
  • All traffic between OpenBazaar nodes is encrypted, so that others cannot see the details of transactions. This includes an end-to-end encrypted chat. Data is only seen by the parties directly involved in the trade
  • working on support for IPv6, Tor, and I2P connections

Tor would be important for me.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: PakistanHockeyfan on April 10, 2016, 10:16:49 PM
Just wondering, where is the administrators of OpenBazaar? Are they all here using BitcoinTalk as well or are some not present here? I wanted to ask what they're going to do about actually broadcasting their new service and webpage.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 10, 2016, 10:36:11 PM
I would classify it as a soft opening and not a Grand Opening


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: kwukduck on April 10, 2016, 11:10:31 PM
OB offers very little privacy and nothing that offers a trustworthy transaction.
I can't really see it go anywhere without those basic features.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: 1Referee on April 10, 2016, 11:28:30 PM
OB offers very little privacy and nothing that offers a trustworthy transaction.
I can't really see it go anywhere without those basic features.

I can't remember having agreed on something you have said, but this time I do agree with you. I don't see much special things that will bring us something refreshing. I think it will get hyped up at the very beginning, and end up being left aside after 6 months.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: gentlemand on April 10, 2016, 11:30:59 PM

I can't remember having agreed on something you have said, but this time I do agree with you. I don't see much special things that will bring us something refreshing. I think it will get hyped up at the very beginning, and end up being left aside after 6 months.

It's a few days old. Of course it's going to be a long way from being match fit. The incentive is there to improve it. Let's see what everyone comes up with before giving up.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: alani123 on April 10, 2016, 11:37:42 PM
To me, the launch was entirely unimpressive. I don't know there's potential of the numerous issues to be fixed because there are just too many. Definitely not worth the hype it received and although I'm a fan of the core idea, the implementation seems disastrous. Decentralization sounds nice in theory, but openbazaar, as it stands today, is inferior to eBay by a great margin.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: 1Referee on April 10, 2016, 11:48:22 PM

I can't remember having agreed on something you have said, but this time I do agree with you. I don't see much special things that will bring us something refreshing. I think it will get hyped up at the very beginning, and end up being left aside after 6 months.

It's a few days old. Of course it's going to be a long way from being match fit. The incentive is there to improve it. Let's see what everyone comes up with before giving up.

I don't give up, but I look at things from a realistic point of view. Especially when it comes to certain things that got hyped up a lot. Remember Gemini? The great "Nasdaq" of Bitcoin for institutional investors. It's nothing more than a few traders exchange nowadays. But yes, let's give it some time, you are right.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: CoinPro* on April 11, 2016, 04:10:41 AM
Clean, easy to use. Needs a better directory, or categories of what is available. After 48 hours of tinkering, I like it. Adding an auction feature would definitely start cutting into eBay/PayPal's monopoly.

We have created a listing offering escrow/mediation service. Just search for CoinPro under listings. We will rebate the .0015 to the first 20 users that leave positive feedback.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 11, 2016, 04:30:35 AM
after updating, store/site is STILL inaccessable.

ive uninstalled and reinstalled 4 times... (win 7 - 64bit)


(win 7 - 32bit installs fine but laptop is tiny and screen wont fit/cant change size - NIGHTMARE TO SET UP)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: salmanahmedone on April 11, 2016, 04:45:03 AM
Good to know about another good Market which takes bitcoins.  :)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Amph on April 11, 2016, 06:46:05 AM
To me, the launch was entirely unimpressive. I don't know there's potential of the numerous issues to be fixed because there are just too many. Definitely not worth the hype it received and although I'm a fan of the core idea, the implementation seems disastrous. Decentralization sounds nice in theory, but openbazaar, as it stands today, is inferior to eBay by a great margin.

what are those numerous issues, to me it seems a smooth launch, if there are i'm sure it's nothing major and anyway they are expected, the problem is on the other hands, the usage of it, still few thing to buy almost nothing worth it at the moment


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: AGD on April 11, 2016, 06:58:21 AM
Clean, easy to use. Needs a better directory, or categories of what is available. After 48 hours of tinkering, I like it. Adding an auction feature would definitely start cutting into eBay/PayPal's monopoly.

We have created a listing offering escrow/mediation service. Just search for CoinPro under listings. We will rebate the .0015 to the first 20 users that leave positive feedback.

The problem with a decentralized auction is, that the winner doesn't have to pay. You will have a lot of auction crashers. The people who really want to buy stuff will hardly get them. I mean, you even can write a script, that always offers 1 $ (edit: sorry 0.000whatever BTC) more than the last bid at every listing. Kind of OB DDos attacks for the lulz. ::)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: doublemore on April 11, 2016, 08:10:14 AM
Clean, easy to use. Needs a better directory, or categories of what is available. After 48 hours of tinkering, I like it. Adding an auction feature would definitely start cutting into eBay/PayPal's monopoly.

We have created a listing offering escrow/mediation service. Just search for CoinPro under listings. We will rebate the .0015 to the first 20 users that leave positive feedback.

The problem with a decentralized auction is, that the winner doesn't have to pay. You will have a lot of auction crashers. The people who really want to buy stuff will hardly get them. I mean, you even can write a script, that always offers 1 $ (edit: sorry 0.000whatever BTC) more than the last bid at every listing. Kind of OB DDos attacks for the lulz. ::)

Dont get too hung up on online auctions guys, they are cool on ebay and that but mostly works best for used goods aswell.  Buy it now market place is a perfectly decent option on its own.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: keyscore44 on April 11, 2016, 09:05:51 AM
Wow lots of naysayers, yet to try out the latest release but I'm sure it cant be that bad...



Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: pedrog on April 11, 2016, 09:50:35 AM
OB offers very little privacy and nothing that offers a trustworthy transaction.
I can't really see it go anywhere without those basic features.

No fraud prevention mechanism?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: CoinPro* on April 11, 2016, 11:06:34 AM
Clean, easy to use. Needs a better directory, or categories of what is available. After 48 hours of tinkering, I like it. Adding an auction feature would definitely start cutting into eBay/PayPal's monopoly.

We have created a listing offering escrow/mediation service. Just search for CoinPro under listings. We will rebate the .0015 to the first 20 users that leave positive feedback.

The problem with a decentralized auction is, that the winner doesn't have to pay. You will have a lot of auction crashers. The people who really want to buy stuff will hardly get them. I mean, you even can write a script, that always offers 1 $ (edit: sorry 0.000whatever BTC) more than the last bid at every listing. Kind of OB DDos attacks for the lulz. ::)

That happens all day on eBay too. Scumbags bid up items with no plans on actually paying. Easy fix (which eBay should have done years ago), is require the bidder to have the funds already in account. Once auction ends, immediately transfer funds to seller. Sellers can have the option to require immediate transfer or not. Kind of like if you go to a high value auto/art/antiques/etc auction, you need to prove you have the funds, and are required to complete transaction.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: sotisoti on April 11, 2016, 11:09:47 AM
I don't see how it can beat ebay, you need a solid reason to convince people to use OpenBazaar.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bitbunnny on April 11, 2016, 11:42:40 AM
I don't see how it can beat ebay, you need a solid reason to convince people to use OpenBazaar.

That would be very hard and maybe the intention is not to beat the ebay. Let's give Bazaar a chance, maybe it will become good alternative.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 11, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
Open Bizarre is the best bitcoin project to date 8)

https://bazaarbay.org/e8ce6352205ff2ab9c2224207b58dc7d8a88e41a


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 11, 2016, 04:54:49 PM
The advantages of OB over eBay would include being able to sell items that are on the eBay prohibited list, and the absence of a listing fee or sales fee.

An analogy might be the classified ads in newspapers, which have almost completely disappeared.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BellaBitBit on April 11, 2016, 04:59:36 PM
The installation and setting up a store is pretty intuitive.  Of course at first things are going to be bumpy, nothing can be perfect in beginning phases. 

At the end of the day OB has a lot of advantages over Ebay - no fees, sell whatever, no overlord feel.

And auctions - auctions were dead on Ebay about 10 years ago...those were the days...  If OB can get an auction thing going again then ebay is really toast.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 11, 2016, 06:19:39 PM
...
Bad advice! Sorry to point it out, but Windows is the most successful OS on the planet by far, so if OB wants to be successful as well, it needs to work perfectly on Windows. Pleasing Windows users is more important than pleasing Mac users.

No it isn't. Using Windows for almost anything is unwise for all sorts of other reasons, too many to list, and those reasons are unlikely ever to change not in Microsoft's interest). Window's dominance of the market is not what I would call a success, and comments like only serve to continue the entrenchment.
Looks pretty successful to me :-\
...
If it matters, less than 2% of laptops/desktops use Linux (so ~1 in 100 computers runs Ubuntu).
http://s30.postimg.org/e9t9w6dy9/Capture.gif
...

But let's agree to disagree, if ignoring ~90% of potential userbase to minimize the market share is the objective, OB should focus on stable CP/M implementations.

That's what I meant. It doesn't matter that Windows is good or bad, or that using it wise or unwise. What matters is that of all computers which will be sold this year, probably ~85% will come with Windows. No one running an online store can ignore Windows users.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Rune on April 11, 2016, 11:07:45 PM
I installed it tried to get it working for like 5 mins gave up.
There are hardly any instructions or anything.
It did not seem worth the effort it hardly does anything I can already use ebay or just meet ppl here to buy/sell stuff here on the forum.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: ed_teech on April 12, 2016, 07:47:36 AM
I installed it tried to get it working for like 5 mins gave up.
There are hardly any instructions or anything.
It did not seem worth the effort it hardly does anything I can already use ebay or just meet ppl here to buy/sell stuff here on the forum.

You can't buy drugs on eBay


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Amph on April 12, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
I installed it tried to get it working for like 5 mins gave up.
There are hardly any instructions or anything.
It did not seem worth the effort it hardly does anything I can already use ebay or just meet ppl here to buy/sell stuff here on the forum.

you need to remove the filtering list to see all the thing that are sold, there are soem stuff, the advantage is thee fee vs ebay, but is still to premature too use yes, it need time


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 12, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
anyone know how to cancel an order ?

or where the usermanual is?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: mayax on April 12, 2016, 10:31:49 AM
I installed it tried to get it working for like 5 mins gave up.
There are hardly any instructions or anything.
It did not seem worth the effort it hardly does anything I can already use ebay or just meet ppl here to buy/sell stuff here on the forum.

You can't buy drugs on eBay

do you buy drugs online?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Jeremycoin on April 12, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
Yes, we can use this to change the use of eBay. But, I wondered why does it created in an app form why not a site?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: pinkslink on April 12, 2016, 12:35:31 PM
i think ebay wont worry as chinese will always flood them with sales

but a website i can see being affected is etsy, and other similar sites


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Zaun on April 12, 2016, 12:54:44 PM
Its pretty okay but I honestly do not call it very attractive to be clear because I think the website looks a bit too simple in my eyes.
I hope this will change, I hope the website also will be a bit more popular and have more stuff.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: defined on April 12, 2016, 01:01:23 PM
I tried, but it didn't work... But I've just launched it, and I'm pleased to see that OB is working today. But I haven't understood why it wasn't working yesterday. Hey, if I want to use OB for business, I need 100% reliability.

Try using Linux or Mac, Windows (and the way the other apps you have installed on your PC manifest themselves with Windows) is likely making any early problems with OB much worse than they really are. Microsoft have always had a bad record with supervising different bits of software to play nice with one another.

Bad advice! Sorry to point it out, but Windows is the most successful OS on the planet by far, so if OB wants to be successful as well, it needs to work perfectly on Windows. Pleasing Windows users is more important than pleasing Mac users.
Define 'successful'! Windows does not exist on anything else than a PC. Phones are used much more now, and online shopping is a great thing to do while chilling instead of sitting at a computer. Android and Mac are all based on Linux.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BTCBinary on April 12, 2016, 01:52:26 PM
at last they finally open the market. Haven't bought nothing there yet because it is still too small and with very few things. Once it gets big with a lot more products many more people will start to use it


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: eyeknock on April 12, 2016, 01:57:48 PM
at last they finally open the market. Haven't bought nothing there yet because it is still too small and with very few things. Once it gets big with a lot more products many more people will start to use it


same here, from my point of view is a great tool, but need time, when times comes and OpenBazaar have more users, items and clients, it will beat everything in the market.
some people seems to be blind about whats happend, things are going into this direction and this is unstoppable.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Jasad on April 12, 2016, 02:08:09 PM
i think ebay wont worry as chinese will always flood them with sales

but a website i can see being affected is etsy, and other similar sites
ebay shuld worry about this,open bazaar may become their competitor,and bitcoin holder will more glad to buy and sell anything on open bazaar.
i wish open bazaar will make ebay or amazon start accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 12, 2016, 04:34:00 PM
Although it is still in the early phases, OB is the Bitcoin app most likely to produce a breakthrough in widespread use.

It could be the go-to place to get things that are not easily available elsewhere.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: steven0021 on April 12, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
i think ebay wont worry as chinese will always flood them with sales

but a website i can see being affected is etsy, and other similar sites
ebay shuld worry about this,open bazaar may become their competitor,and bitcoin holder will more glad to buy and sell anything on open bazaar.
i wish open bazaar will make ebay or amazon start accept bitcoin.

I wish open bazaar will make ebay and amazon out of business. but they still have a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way to go.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 12, 2016, 07:34:12 PM
"No response was received from the server. It may be unreachable or taking a very long time to respond."

It's failing to start once again. You know, this is annoying. I understand I'm not at home, and that my connection isn't great, but I've just accessed Poloniex via Tor, so OB should work as well...


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: xyzzy099 on April 12, 2016, 07:50:21 PM
"No response was received from the server. It may be unreachable or taking a very long time to respond."

It's failing to start once again. You know, this is annoying. I understand I'm not at home, and that my connection isn't great, but I've just accessed Poloniex via Tor, so OB should work as well...

OB does not work over Tor.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: CryptoBjorn on April 12, 2016, 09:30:01 PM
My first impressions are pretty good I think its a nice tool we could all use as sellers because its simple and also pretty nice to use.
You can offer all kind of things on it and I also like that you can follow people.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: CoinPro* on April 13, 2016, 05:26:51 AM
If anyone needs escrow/moderation service, please send us a message, or search OB for #CoinPro.

Right now, receiving "An incorrect reply was received from the server." the the past two days. Anyone know how to fix this, or what the issue is?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: _Miracle on April 13, 2016, 05:48:54 AM
It is going to take some getting used to for me. Ebay is not a good comparison at this time OpenBazaar is very different.
Looking forward to more functionality and in learning more of what's already there.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: AsaroUk on April 13, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
It is nice that you make Bitcoin more acceptable, that is perfect for the users who are using Bitcoin so they can spend it more in different stores and that is nice for them.
I think later that we never need the paper money because Bitcoin will be the most used and easiest payment method in the future.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: ed_teech on April 13, 2016, 10:36:35 AM
Anyone actually bought anything there ?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on April 13, 2016, 11:09:54 AM
It is going to take some getting used to for me. Ebay is not a good comparison at this time OpenBazaar is very different.
Looking forward to more functionality and in learning more of what's already there.
you are right, it is the difference between e-bay with the open bazaar but we need to give appreciation and support.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 13, 2016, 07:37:58 PM
"No response was received from the server. It may be unreachable or taking a very long time to respond."

It's failing to start once again. You know, this is annoying. I understand I'm not at home, and that my connection isn't great, but I've just accessed Poloniex via Tor, so OB should work as well...

OB does not work over Tor.

??? I know that. My point is that Tor, which is well known to be slow, works better than OB. And that is disappointing. I guess something can be done. You can help BTC by running a node on your home computer. Is there something similar which can help OB become successful?

The software's again failing to launch.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: xyzzy099 on April 13, 2016, 07:43:26 PM
"No response was received from the server. It may be unreachable or taking a very long time to respond."

It's failing to start once again. You know, this is annoying. I understand I'm not at home, and that my connection isn't great, but I've just accessed Poloniex via Tor, so OB should work as well...

OB does not work over Tor.

??? I know that. My point is that Tor, which is well known to be slow, works better than OB. And that is disappointing. I guess something can be done. You can help BTC by running a node on your home computer. Is there something similar which can help OB become successful?

The software's again failing to launch.

Sorry, dude - I was trying to be helpful.  I read the bolded bit above and it sounded like you were trying to run OB through Tor.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Karartma1 on April 13, 2016, 07:50:39 PM
Finally!
I am downloading and installing it right now, I will try, test and see how it works. Hope this is going to turn out good pretty soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Karartma1 on April 13, 2016, 07:55:55 PM
Latest version for Windows 8.1 x64 won't install
 ::)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: --Encrypted-- on April 13, 2016, 08:05:13 PM
Latest version for Windows 8.1 x64 won't install
 ::)

any error message or did it just stand there with something like "shouldn't take more than 30 seconds"?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on April 13, 2016, 09:55:32 PM
Anyone actually bought anything there ?
I can't find anything worth buying to be honest. Unless they start delivering some really awesome discounts, I would rather just hoard my Bitcoin. They need to give a discount like purse.io otherwise who cares.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: chek2fire on April 14, 2016, 12:28:27 AM
I have order several item until now. I am interest in hand made products or food products like honey, wine etc. The last item i have buy was a great hat for kids a gift for my nephew from USA :). General the prices are good but i like to see more shops in the future.
I think open bazaar has a great start and i see many shops add every day.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 14, 2016, 01:41:43 AM
i couldnt get the v1.1.2 64 bit to run.

32 bit works 'fine'

could use some instructions though!!


located the 'tutorial' perusing it now.

https://blog.openbazaar.org/tag/tutorial/

or

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-user-tutorial/


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BayAreaCoins on April 14, 2016, 02:56:23 AM
I don't really care for it... played with it for a day or two.

I might try to sell a few things just to test the waters.

Feel free to follow me there.

https://bazaarbay.org/734cab9c2f75dea7ca747da9dabf0773d99e34e0


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: pinkslink on April 14, 2016, 04:14:32 AM
I have order several item until now. I am interest in hand made products or food products like honey, wine etc. The last item i have buy was a great hat for kids a gift for my nephew from USA :). General the prices are good but i like to see more shops in the future.
I think open bazaar has a great start and i see many shops add every day.
Totally agree, this is why i think OB will not affect ebay or amazon too much
but it will affect sites like Etsy
as OB makes it cost effective for small buisness or people working from home to advertise their products

people who just want cheap cheap, will always look to ebay or amazon for the after care as they cannot afford for something to go wrong after
(i have always said, when selling on ebay for years, ebay buyers usually cannot afford to buy the item they want, thats why they use ebay, looking for a cheaper price)

a lot of sellers of handmade goods i can see using OB, Etsy has a huge member base, but it bans sellers for no reason what so ever, and refuses to re-open accounts once banned, you read many nightmare stories about Etsy, where people have started off as a hobby, then they got good sales on etsy, so to keep up with demand they quit work and focus on Etsy, only for Etsy to ban account a few months down the line without reason leaving them without a paddle. OB elimates such cases so i feel many independant artisans will soon be on OB.

Right now OB needs better seach/filters, but its early days so everything will be done later once they have content to sort.

i do hate the unessicery hashtags though in search and tags, just why..................


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 14, 2016, 06:43:02 AM
I see great potential there.  Searching sucks, but it will eventually be improved.  At the very least, it needs a dropdown list of search categories.  Created a store, and started listing items.  I am in on the ground floor.  How often does that happen in life?  The magic will start when people start listing really strange things.  That will result in free press coverage.  Then it goes viral.  Bitcoin will fly.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: helloeverybody on April 14, 2016, 06:45:58 AM
I see great potential there.  Searching sucks, but it will eventually be improved.  Created a store, and started listing items.  I am in on the ground floor.  How often does that happen in life?  The magic will start when people start listing really strange things.  That will result in free press coverage.  Then it goes viral.  Bitcoin will fly.


The same experiance for me. The potential is there but at the moment im still getting various bugs such as not finding anything on my network, my shop not showing up and not connecting. i have had it working but for now its as if its not even connecting to the internet since i cant search any vendors or anything.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 14, 2016, 06:51:41 AM
I had the same issue, but I can now see my listings and other peoples' listings.  I turned off filtering, and exited and restarted.  Not sure what got it to work.  Since there is no server, it may just take time.

This is very early in the process, but the time to open a store is now.

OpenBazaar
A Free Market for all.  No Fees. No Restrictions.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Wendigo on April 14, 2016, 07:01:32 AM
People are selling some weird things on OpenBazaar I just saw one guy offering the users to buy shares in his goat farm haha. I saw a lot of artisans selling hand-made items as well maybe OpenBazaar will become the Etsy for Bitcoiners. Other than that most of the stuff is second-hand so I couldn't find anything worth to buy at the moment but I will be checking it for more stuff in the future.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bitcoin-esperanto on April 14, 2016, 07:06:19 AM
I think that a better promo of this app could embrace more user in the project...don't you?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 14, 2016, 07:14:06 AM
The listings will be the promo.  There are no restrictions, and there are no fees.  Any business can list there.  Any person can list there.  Sell for millions or for nickles.  Right now, there are cigarettes and replica watches.  What will be next?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 14, 2016, 10:40:09 AM
OpenBazaar ‏@openbazaar 10h10 hours ago

Next update that fixes connection issues and resource exhaustion coming soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: spazzdla on April 15, 2016, 01:33:49 PM
I cannot connect :( :( :(.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Lionidas on April 15, 2016, 01:42:14 PM
I tried to connect just now too. But without any success. Is the service down or is it just on a per user to user basis for these connection issues? I understand it is a new service but still it should be accessible for all to use for the first week or so before they do any maintenance for the up tick for the increase in traffic to their site. That is expected if it is such a success with it's current user base.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Amph on April 15, 2016, 02:14:28 PM
I cannot connect :( :( :(.

are you behind a firewall or something else that is blocking the access?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: spazzdla on April 15, 2016, 02:30:38 PM
I cannot connect :( :( :(.

are you behind a firewall or something else that is blocking the access?

I don't think so.. alas.. I have a feeling I am to stupid to figure it out..


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Lionidas on April 15, 2016, 02:49:42 PM
I cannot connect :( :( :(.

are you behind a firewall or something else that is blocking the access?

I don't think so.. alas.. I have a feeling I am to stupid to figure it out..
He even refers if you are using a router for your connection. Cause if they are configured as a firewall, then you won't be able to connect to them without the proper settings configured to allow them to come thru your connection.
But alas, I am still not able to connect. And no, I am not behind a firewall. I am smart in the way of how the internet works  ;)  ;D


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: countryfree on April 15, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
OpenBazaar ‏@openbazaar 10h10 hours ago

Next update that fixes connection issues and resource exhaustion coming soon.


Great! Thank you if you're in the team behind OB. It's a fantastic project, with huge potential, but it still needs work. I guess developers shall prioritize work related to ease of connection and stability issues over those over design, or personalization options.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Yakamoto on April 15, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
OpenBazaar ‏@openbazaar 10h10 hours ago

Next update that fixes connection issues and resource exhaustion coming soon.


Great! Thank you if you're in the team behind OB. It's a fantastic project, with huge potential, but it still needs work. I guess developers shall prioritize work related to ease of connection and stability issues over those over design, or personalization options.
I have a feeling they're working towards more security options and creating patches and so as opposed to the connectivity or personalization aspects of the client, since the connectivity is fine, for the most part, unless there is something on your end blocking it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Zaun on April 15, 2016, 03:11:06 PM
My first impression is that its pretty nice and also pretty easy to setup and also easy to search something up.
Its really similar like ebay, I must say the developers did a great job it looks good and is working pretty good.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Red-Apple on April 15, 2016, 03:21:32 PM
i couldn't run it properly when i tried it a while ago, and i don't know what i am doing wrong. maybe it is because of the beta phase, i don't know! so i think i am going to wait until the release.
but so far from what i have read here and on reddit i find the project super interesting and i am so excited.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Oscoda on April 15, 2016, 03:39:38 PM
I really like the open bazaar lay out and its also pretty nice that its working so well, I thought it would be a disaster at the first month with connections at all.
I really like the dashboard overview and the fact that you can search easily plus follow someone.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Hellacopter on April 15, 2016, 03:53:09 PM
It seems interesting marketplace and having promising future in my opinion. That's will help the Bitcoin's community to make their trades and deals without any issues surely.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: eternalgloom on April 15, 2016, 03:59:24 PM
OpenBazaar ‏@openbazaar 10h10 hours ago

Next update that fixes connection issues and resource exhaustion coming soon.


Great! Thank you if you're in the team behind OB. It's a fantastic project, with huge potential, but it still needs work. I guess developers shall prioritize work related to ease of connection and stability issues over those over design, or personalization options.
I have a feeling they're working towards more security options and creating patches and so as opposed to the connectivity or personalization aspects of the client, since the connectivity is fine, for the most part, unless there is something on your end blocking it.
With something like OpenBazaar, I think security is the most important aspect of it, especially when large amounts of Bitcoins are involved.
I've had some connection issues at the start but resolved them fairly quickly.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 15, 2016, 04:33:33 PM
I think the next necessary step toward success must be IP address obfuscation.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Wendigo on April 15, 2016, 05:28:15 PM
I didn't have any connection issues last time I tried to log in and the strange thing is that my firewall prompted a warning about adding permission to connect to a new app and the strange thing is that I didn't authorize it and I still managed to connect without any problems. Maybe the connection issues are a regional thing or something.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 15, 2016, 05:53:59 PM
I think the next necessary step toward success must be IP address obfuscation.


What do you mean ? As far as I know addresses aren't shown for public .


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: treeguard on April 15, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

I already bought some nice bitfoin keychains, and my first impressions are very good, looks like good site for sure

And i don't think that we can beat ebay because here you can't pay with fiat, bitcoins only? So that's downside


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: arbitrage001 on April 15, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
what is your first impression on this when you tested it ?

Don't waste your time until they implement anonymity:
http://ohiobitcoin.com/ob1-ceo-brian-hoffman-explains-levels-of-anonymity-in-openbazaar/

Not sure about this Hoffman character. Also the nodeJS/python client/server architecture is bloated - I don't want to run all of this (likely insecure) shit on my machine. Sorry if it's a harsh review.

Have to agree here.

Did anyone do a security review on the application?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 15, 2016, 07:12:37 PM
I think the next necessary step toward success must be IP address obfuscation.


What do you mean ? As far as I know addresses aren't shown for public .

Your IP is visible to other nodes and is tied to the contracts you sell, purchase, or notarize.
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-beta-1-0-tutorial/

I think the next necessary step toward success must be IP address obfuscation.

(probably) Tor or I2P

It will happen.



Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: European Central Bank on April 15, 2016, 11:56:35 PM
Any figures on the total numbers of listings and sellers? There seems to be quite a bit of action on there by the sound of it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 16, 2016, 01:28:29 AM
update 1.1.3 released


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: classicsucks on April 16, 2016, 07:34:13 AM
what is your first impression on this when you tested it ?

Don't waste your time until they implement anonymity:
http://ohiobitcoin.com/ob1-ceo-brian-hoffman-explains-levels-of-anonymity-in-openbazaar/

Not sure about this Hoffman character. Also the nodeJS/python client/server architecture is bloated - I don't want to run all of this (likely insecure) shit on my machine. Sorry if it's a harsh review.

Have to agree here.

Did anyone do a security review on the application?


Haven't seen a code audit yet. My concern would focus on the pseudo-UDP protocol they're apparently using - seems like the type of thing to be vulnerable to buffer overruns, etc. Given that the app has to run 24/7 to work right for vendors, I imagine that we'll start seeing exploits happening soon. Hopefully people will be paying attention and report here when they get hacked...

Someone could even start a thread... OpenBazaar Security audit... I'm not technical enough to moderate it...


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Karartma1 on April 16, 2016, 10:43:30 AM
I think it was Avast Deep Screen against PUP blocking the installation. I finally got it working after a scan.
p.s. I had to install i386 instead of x64 on Windows 8.1 64 bit (installion failed every time)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: alani123 on April 16, 2016, 01:47:50 PM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 17, 2016, 09:37:21 AM
OpenBazaar Leads Nominations for 2016 Blockchain Awards : http://www.coindesk.com/2016-blockchain-awards-finalist-voting/


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: defined on April 17, 2016, 10:18:20 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: jak1 on April 17, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL

OpenBazaar should not be blamed for not being mature on all fronts. All the projects in the begining has flaws and we need to fix them .
So thats not a big deal unless the bug is left unattended.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: MFahad on April 17, 2016, 10:35:33 AM
Overall Look and feel for Open Bazzar is great. I tried it myself and found it to be very user friendly and easy to Use.
Hats off to the ones who developed them


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: greghansel89 on April 17, 2016, 11:28:10 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL

OpenBazaar should not be blamed for not being mature on all fronts. All the projects in the begining has flaws and we need to fix them .
So thats not a big deal unless the bug is left unattended.


I totally agree there will be bugs in first release that is why we users need to contribute about the project so that it can grow more and be efficient enough to get our need in the site.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: sidhujag on April 17, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
That pretty bad


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: miner_btc on April 17, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
The UI is nice but overall the software is still pretty buggy. I don't think it will supplant ebay until it can run in a browser. Also the fact that it's really difficult to move to a VPS after installing locally is also kind of a drag. Growing pains, I guess. I do see the potential but I feel like I am running an early beta of the software.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: thejaytiesto on April 17, 2016, 06:48:07 PM
The UI is nice but overall the software is still pretty buggy. I don't think it will supplant ebay until it can run in a browser. Also the fact that it's really difficult to move to a VPS after installing locally is also kind of a drag. Growing pains, I guess. I do see the potential but I feel like I am running an early beta of the software.

Yeah, it's no real competition against eBay, and even if they manage to run the software all integrated in the browser as a webpage, it will not be a real competitor against ebay anyway. Most people still don't see usage in Bitcoin because they have to buy it first with fiat, so it's pretty stupid to buy with fiat the Bitcoin, then buy whatever you want to buy. Why would you do that if you can buy it directly with fiat?
Until people start getting paid in Bitcoin directly, most people will not use Bitcoin as a currency but instead as a better gold.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Comodore on April 17, 2016, 08:20:39 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

Idiots making predictions, lol


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: CasioK on April 17, 2016, 08:33:07 PM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL

OpenBazaar should not be blamed for not being mature on all fronts. All the projects in the begining has flaws and we need to fix them .
So thats not a big deal unless the bug is left unattended.


I totally agree there will be bugs in first release that is why we users need to contribute about the project so that it can grow more and be efficient enough to get our need in the site.
Pretty sure the community will be helping the devs with the current bugs. Open Bazaar looks like it would be a success with peer to peer transactions so I don't think the community will keep quiet about this one.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: btvGainer on April 17, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.

Idiots making predictions, lol
If it can offer more products at dismounted price than ebay,it can beat ebay.Many other ecommerce websites are already giving ebay a hard time with their efficient fast delivery,easy return policy,heavy discounts etc


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Velkro on April 17, 2016, 11:08:11 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/
For me personally its a little bit too "raw". I wouldn't seriously consider buying anything from it, since search engine is bad, user interface is non-existent etc.
Im counting it will improve a lot to current standards.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 17, 2016, 11:51:38 PM
It works.  With no central server.

what it needs:

  • Hidden IP addresses, using Tor or I2P, essential for success
  • Workable trust system, possibly essential for success, unless there is enormous demand for the product
  • Useful search engine, standardized category tags would make it bearable, the current method requires that both the buyer and seller be able to spell


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 18, 2016, 12:18:36 AM
It works.  With no central server.

what it needs:

  • Hidden IP addresses, using Tor or I2P, essential for success
...

OB server needs UDP which is not supported by tor. Best way to go would be to have some anonymously rented machine, and connect to it via tor. client/server connection via tor, server/ob-network via clearnet. (https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/3zkybs/can_openbazaar_be_run_over_tor/)

TL;DR: would need to trash codebase & start from scratch :([/list]


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 18, 2016, 01:00:35 AM
The recent work has been with I2P.

Quote
Another tool which looks more promising is I2P, something which we’ve begun to investigate more closely. I2P already uses UDP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/comments/470uvo/i2p_and_openbazaar_help_me_make_the_combination/


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: albert11 on April 18, 2016, 02:00:04 AM
Pros : good marketing, good logo, simple UI , chat

Cons : user experience, discover page / search bar returns very little result, no filter, no category


Also had some connectivity issues, sometimes my server would completely disconnect, unable to find any listings/page or url query ( not a filter issue)

Overall i think openbazaar has a lot of potential, originality and uniqueness but needs to be more stable and user friendly for the average joe.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: alani123 on April 18, 2016, 06:18:24 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL

OpenBazaar should not be blamed for not being mature on all fronts. All the projects in the begining has flaws and we need to fix them .
So thats not a big deal unless the bug is left unattended.


I totally agree there will be bugs in first release that is why we users need to contribute about the project so that it can grow more and be efficient enough to get our need in the site.
Thing is, in open source, the developers need to accept valid contributions and give proper credit to contributors. The link I posted is evidence that they aren't even doing that for the smallest things like spellchecking.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: AGD on April 18, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL

OpenBazaar should not be blamed for not being mature on all fronts. All the projects in the begining has flaws and we need to fix them .
So thats not a big deal unless the bug is left unattended.


I totally agree there will be bugs in first release that is why we users need to contribute about the project so that it can grow more and be efficient enough to get our need in the site.
Thing is, in open source, the developers need to accept valid contributions and give proper credit to contributors. The link I posted is evidence that they aren't even doing that for the smallest things like spellchecking.

They will hopefully learn from that, too.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Grix on April 18, 2016, 08:26:56 AM
After trying it for a week or two I think the concept is good but that it is not quite ready.

Biggest complaints:

1. The need for the program to stay open for people to access your store. This is a big hurdle, paying for and setting up a VPS is a PITA. Specialized hosting services will become available for cheap eventually I suppose, but that kind of defeats the purpose in a way too.

2. I don't like the window UI at all. It might look ok for a Mac user, but for me it took far too long to even figure out that the weird red, yellow and green dots were the buttons to manipulate the window, and even now that I have used them a lot I still think they are awful, way too small and placed strangely. On the client for Windows I would want and expect the standard Windows GUI.
It is also highly annoying that the window can not minimize to system tray rather than task bar.

3. It's very buggy. The most breaking bug is that I find that sometimes the server seem to shut down without warning even when the window is open, and I don't notice it until hours later when I try to refresh randomly. But there are also plenty of smaller bugs, like some messages refuse to go away when I click "clear conversation", and at first it was impossible to type the symbol @ on some keyboards (this is fixed now).


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: naidray on April 18, 2016, 08:50:51 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL
OpenBazaar is a great initiative and project for buying with bitcoin.
Since its a new project we can expect some delays or misconfgurations but that is not to be discouraged them but we can expect full swing overall improvement very soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: alani123 on April 18, 2016, 10:10:28 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL
OpenBazaar is a great initiative and project for buying with bitcoin.
Since its a new project we can expect some delays or misconfgurations but that is not to be discouraged them but we can expect full swing overall improvement very soon.
I'm a bit doubtful about the competence of the developers though. I get that it's just the start, but even after coming out of beta, several updates did nothing but worsen problems introduced in previous ones. And they failed at implementing basic checks for stores such as stock updates (https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/4f1ywt/sold_item_but_listing_remains/d258lnt). Not only that, but they don't seem to be welcoming comunity contributions in their open source development. I hope that if this isn't resolved someone else would be courageous enough to take over with a fork.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: classicsucks on April 18, 2016, 10:59:48 AM
The recent work has been with I2P.

Quote
Another tool which looks more promising is I2P, something which we’ve begun to investigate more closely. I2P already uses UDP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/comments/470uvo/i2p_and_openbazaar_help_me_make_the_combination/

This looks promising.

I hate to be a naysayer about I2P, but who the fuck implements network-layer with JAVA?! Probably packed with vulnerabilities and SLOW... Who knows, maybe OpenBazaar will be the killer app for I2P.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: classicsucks on April 18, 2016, 11:04:26 AM

I'm a bit doubtful about the competence of the developers though. I get that it's just the start, but even after coming out of beta, several updates did nothing but worsen problems introduced in previous ones.

There are other players in the distributed market space. I believe Syscoin is launching their DM soon, possibly others are too?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: sidhujag on April 18, 2016, 07:39:59 PM

I'm a bit doubtful about the competence of the developers though. I get that it's just the start, but even after coming out of beta, several updates did nothing but worsen problems introduced in previous ones.

There are other players in the distributed market space. I believe Syscoin is launching their DM soon, possibly others are too?
Yes only ones that are of any value are Syscoin and Bitbay. Bitbay is p2p and Syscoin is blockchain based.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 18, 2016, 07:55:08 PM
The recent work has been with I2P.

Quote
Another tool which looks more promising is I2P, something which we’ve begun to investigate more closely. I2P already uses UDP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/comments/470uvo/i2p_and_openbazaar_help_me_make_the_combination/

This looks promising.

I hate to be a naysayer about I2P, but who the fuck implements network-layer with JAVA?! Probably packed with vulnerabilities and SLOW... Who knows, maybe OpenBazaar will be the killer app for I2P.

Has anyone here actually tried it?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: fullzero on April 18, 2016, 08:54:44 PM
The lack of listings is largest problem I noticed.  I want to try a transaction to see how it works; but couldn't find anything I wanted on the platform.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: HarryKPeters on April 18, 2016, 09:10:17 PM
The lack of listings is largest problem I noticed.  I want to try a transaction to see how it works; but couldn't find anything I wanted on the platform.

Yes I also had this problem, I think there still need to come a lot more stores from users, but I also think its just a matter of time before this is gonna happen.
My first impression about the layout and work ability is pretty good, I love the layout and its also simple to use.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on April 19, 2016, 01:33:00 AM
keyrings?

stickers?

iron-on patches?

someone selling wristbands....

some grotter with 'fun' pics...

jeeez! what more could you be looking for on a week old market?


#theygotnuffiniwant!!!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: MikaelBlomvist on April 19, 2016, 01:38:14 AM
The installer just crashed, what kind of shit is this?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: ed_teech on April 19, 2016, 12:19:37 PM
keyrings?

stickers?

iron-on patches?

someone selling wristbands....

some grotter with 'fun' pics...

jeeez! what more could you be looking for on a week old market?


#theygotnuffiniwant!!!

And weed  :o


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: mayax on April 19, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL
OpenBazaar is a great initiative and project for buying with bitcoin.
Since its a new project we can expect some delays or misconfgurations but that is not to be discouraged them but we can expect full swing overall improvement very soon.


Hehe, NEW project but it's full of errors. It does not matter that it's new. It's a crap. Also, it costs 1 mil USD according to their website :)

1 million and they come with this shit?!?!?!? pffff. Something is wrong with these people and of course with the stupids investors.  ;D

You can hire IBM or any other giant software company with these money and they can create the software you may need not a crap which can be easily call  ; Open shit ERRORs bazaar

http://uk.businessinsider.com/openbazaar-gets-1-million-seed-round-from-andreessen-horowitz-union-square-ventures-2015-6


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: yvv on April 19, 2016, 04:03:50 PM
Linux client is just not functional. Not sure about mac and windows clients.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: classicsucks on April 19, 2016, 05:01:28 PM

Hehe, NEW project but it's full of errors. It does not matter that it's new. It's a crap. Also, it costs 1 mil USD according to their website :)

1 million and they come with this shit?!?!?!? pffff. Something is wrong with these people and of course with the stupids investors.  ;D

You can hire IBM or any other giant software company with these money and they can create the software you may need not a crap which can be easily call  ; Open shit ERRORs bazaar

http://uk.businessinsider.com/openbazaar-gets-1-million-seed-round-from-andreessen-horowitz-union-square-ventures-2015-6

To their credit, I believe they hav released the FIRST EVER decentralized P2P marketplace app (other than Taaki's proof of concept). I agree that it's sloppy, and I hate the choice of python/nodeJS etc for this type of app.

Nonetheless, it mostly works, and it's a huge step forward in software concept and design.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on April 19, 2016, 10:21:34 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

The other things can be fixed.

The most important one is to encrypt the IP addresses






Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: road to morocco on April 19, 2016, 10:46:38 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 19, 2016, 11:12:09 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TheButterZone on April 19, 2016, 11:19:39 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0

BAHAHAHA, yep.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 19, 2016, 11:24:31 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar: 0
What's your point?



Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: loki0505 on April 19, 2016, 11:28:29 PM
where the starbucks gift card stores? someone open one up asap.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 19, 2016, 11:29:26 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar: 0
What's your point?



Number of weeks OpenBazaar has been launched: 0

What's yours?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: road to morocco on April 19, 2016, 11:31:16 PM
where the starbucks gift card stores? someone open one up asap.

Sadly it's dumber than selling those on Craigslist: You'd be running a server, 24/7, on your own IP :(


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 19, 2016, 11:38:51 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar: 0
What's your point?



Number of weeks OpenBazaar has been launched: 0

What's yours?

Number of weeks [since] Princess Celestia's Bit Coin Bazaar has been launched: 0

Ponies not engaging in successful agorism on Princess Celestia's Bit Coin Bazaar; Equestria on the verge of becoming a Libertarian paradise tho :)
P.S. They really do use BitCoins in Equestria, shit you not!

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0q2u3wOCvH2QTc8vfHRYcVFcGFiHWI0rW50D2Ai492RFzzJ-h


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 19, 2016, 11:42:43 PM
That was your point? Ok


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 19, 2016, 11:58:22 PM
That was your point? Ok

Sorry, clearly overestimated you. But, alas, while a word to the wise is sufficient, you need things spelled out. So here you go, Tiger:
My point is rather obvious: Since no one engaged "in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar," your post ("Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0,") was either a non-sequitur or simply stupid.

If you need further tutoring, please see me after school -- you're holding back the rest of the class.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: luckyknc on April 20, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
Openbazaar's open source delelopment looks like a joke, so bad the people at /r/buttcoin are making fun of it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4f18b5/openbizarre_developer_gets_very_sad_locks_grammar/
For a new project you should not blame them for not being mature on all fronts. Maybe an open source developer wants to improve on this ;)

'Somebody should fork OpenBazaar to create OpenBazaar Classic so the initial euphoria can be sustained.'
LOL
OpenBazaar is a great initiative and project for buying with bitcoin.
Since its a new project we can expect some delays or misconfgurations but that is not to be discouraged them but we can expect full swing overall improvement very soon.
I'm a bit doubtful about the competence of the developers though. I get that it's just the start, but even after coming out of beta, several updates did nothing but worsen problems introduced in previous ones. And they failed at implementing basic checks for stores such as stock updates (https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/4f1ywt/sold_item_but_listing_remains/d258lnt). Not only that, but they don't seem to be welcoming comunity contributions in their open source development. I hope that if this isn't resolved someone else would be courageous enough to take over with a fork.

Actually there is one fork i don't know what exactly or who but here is the link https://github.com/zerobazaar/OpenBazaar-Server/


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 20, 2016, 11:13:50 AM
That was your point? Ok

Sorry, clearly overestimated you. But, alas, while a word to the wise is sufficient, you need things spelled out. So here you go, Tiger:
My point is rather obvious: Since no one engaged "in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar," your post ("Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0,") was either a non-sequitur or simply stupid.

If you need further tutoring, please see me after school -- you're holding back the rest of the class.

Right, uh, get well soon? ???


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Cocobrico on April 20, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
I am using OpenBazaar till day 0 and I also do sell some products :)

Have a look at my Shop 6e5c06fd11c38ae178543309f6f2e55dd5885b75
I would also be very thankful if you would follow me :)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: DuckKeeper on April 20, 2016, 01:53:14 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar: 0
What's your point?


It is nice to have a shop and that is also nice for Bitcoin itself so you can make Bitcoin more acceptable and that is quite nice.
The only thing is that you must make it more popular and that is also important otherwise people will not know it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BellaBitBit on April 20, 2016, 02:38:49 PM

Hehe, NEW project but it's full of errors. It does not matter that it's new. It's a crap. Also, it costs 1 mil USD according to their website :)

1 million and they come with this shit?!?!?!? pffff. Something is wrong with these people and of course with the stupids investors.  ;D

You can hire IBM or any other giant software company with these money and they can create the software you may need not a crap which can be easily call  ; Open shit ERRORs bazaar

http://uk.businessinsider.com/openbazaar-gets-1-million-seed-round-from-andreessen-horowitz-union-square-ventures-2015-6

To their credit, I believe they hav released the FIRST EVER decentralized P2P marketplace app (other than Taaki's proof of concept). I agree that it's sloppy, and I hate the choice of python/nodeJS etc for this type of app.

Nonetheless, it mostly works, and it's a huge step forward in software concept and design.

I agree that to their credit they are the first to release something like this and naturally it will not be perfect.  The stores will fill up and kinks will be worked out if there is a serious demand for this kind of service, which I think there is.  I did my taxes and paid way too much to the Bay simply to sell.  10%, then paypal's fee, then cost of item, rediculous.   I am rooting for this all the way!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 20, 2016, 02:50:51 PM
That was your point? Ok

Sorry, clearly overestimated you. But, alas, while a word to the wise is sufficient, you need things spelled out. So here you go, Tiger:
My point is rather obvious: Since no one engaged "in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar," your post ("Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0,") was either a non-sequitur or simply stupid.

If you need further tutoring, please see me after school -- you're holding back the rest of the class.

Right, uh, get well soon? ???

Another non-sequitur. Diagnosis: ineducable.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: ultimatesky on April 20, 2016, 02:56:59 PM
It works, it is free, and there is no server that can be shut down.

Number of times I worried that someone will shut down Craigslist servers: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism on Craigslist: 0

Number of people engaging in successful agorism anything on OpenBazaar: 0
What's your point?


It is nice to have a shop and that is also nice for Bitcoin itself so you can make Bitcoin more acceptable and that is quite nice.
The only thing is that you must make it more popular and that is also important otherwise people will not know it.

You are right about that it only need to get a lot more popular so even people that do not use the bitcoin are knowing it, this will also help the bitcoin for sure.
I really like the openbazaar although I must say there is still not a lot for sale these days, I hope this will change soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 20, 2016, 02:58:38 PM
...
It is nice to have a shop and that is also nice for Bitcoin itself so you can make Bitcoin more acceptable and that is quite nice.
The only thing is that you must make it more popular and that is also important otherwise people will not know it.

That's nice. Safe to say that no one outside of the Bitcoin community (those already using BTC) will use OpenBazaar.
Why would anyone go through the hassle of buying BTC & installing an unknown app? To shop on an online marketplace with poor selection? that you can't meaningfully search? Perhaps lack of buyer protection is gonna draw them in?

Everyone keeps bringing up eBay's high fees. Have you gentlemen ever heard of Craigslist? No fees to buy or sell, use any payment method you wish, even BTC.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 20, 2016, 03:06:08 PM
Quote from: attentionWhored
Another non-sequitur. Diagnosis: ineducable.

Yeah, I'm not really sure why it is you keep bringing up garden shears (even more bizarrely, "non-gardening shears"???). Educate me about these garden scissors you keep mentioning, and what it has to do with the topic at hand


I did my taxes

This is why we can't have nice things :D.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 20, 2016, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: attentionWhored
Another non-sequitur. Diagnosis: ineducable.

Yeah, I'm not really sure why it is you keep bringing up garden shears (even more bizarrely, "non-gardening shears"???). Educate me about these garden scissors you keep mentioning, and what it has to do with the topic at hand
Number of times I have brought up "garden shears" (prior to this post): 0

I suggest you start spending substantially less coin on drugs. Or substantially more. What you're doing now is clearly not working for you.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 20, 2016, 03:31:00 PM
Number of times I have brought up "garden shears" (prior to this post): 0

Well, you've said 'non-sequitteurs' about 3 times, not 0, so perhaps it's you that needs to put the pipe down? Why are we interested in scissors, that aren't scissors? If not scissors, er, uh, what are they? Exactly? Why do you, or anyone else, care?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on April 20, 2016, 03:46:07 PM
Number of times I have brought up "garden shears" (prior to this post): 0

Well, you've said 'non-sequitteurs' about 3 times, not 0, so perhaps it's you that needs to put the pipe down? Why are we interested in scissors, that aren't scissors? If not scissors, er, uh, what are they? Exactly? Why do you, or anyone else, care?

If acting like a dimwitted assburger is your internet persona, and you never break character, I admire your dedication. Kudos!
Otherwise, dial 911 immediately & remain on the line until help arrives.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Carlton Banks on April 20, 2016, 03:50:48 PM
hmmmmm, weirdo. Crashing on.....


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 on May 09, 2016, 05:18:00 AM
OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
I see it has potential. And I can sell/buy my stuff on it, for less.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on May 09, 2016, 12:47:45 PM
OB is the best place to buy bitcoin art & jewelry made by stoners out of scraps of household wiring. Bar none.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: calkob on May 09, 2016, 12:49:03 PM
It hasn't really grew on me yet to be honest.   :o


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: NordicRanger on May 09, 2016, 01:39:59 PM
OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
I see it has potential. And I can sell/buy my stuff on it, for less.
It is nice that you are opening a store and so you are also make Bitcoin more popular and used and that is perfect for the currency.
But you have also to promote it more to make it more popular so that is important.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Bitcoinbro on May 09, 2016, 01:47:23 PM
OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
I see it has potential. And I can sell/buy my stuff on it, for less.
It is nice that you are opening a store and so you are also make Bitcoin more popular and used and that is perfect for the currency.
But you have also to promote it more to make it more popular so that is important.
Well you not gonna make it more popular if you do it on the openbazaar to be honest because with the open bazaar only users that using the bitcoin are on it.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: fullzero on May 09, 2016, 02:04:45 PM
OB is the best place to buy bitcoin art & jewelry made by stoners out of scraps of household wiring. Bar none.

Humorous.

Until I can sell something faster on OB than the forum marketplace; and look for things to buy on OB instead of the forum marketplace: OB is not worth my time.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BruceSwanson on May 10, 2016, 03:32:55 AM
It won't install, either on my Vista-loaded HP laptop bought in November 2008, or on my new Vulcan Windows 10 laptop bought today at Fry's. I get a standard error message, which refers me to a Squirrel setup file.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Herbert2020 on May 10, 2016, 06:16:32 AM
OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
I see it has potential. And I can sell/buy my stuff on it, for less.
It is nice that you are opening a store and so you are also make Bitcoin more popular and used and that is perfect for the currency.
But you have also to promote it more to make it more popular so that is important.
Well you not gonna make it more popular if you do it on the openbazaar to be honest because with the open bazaar only users that using the bitcoin are on it.

that is a good thing because if OpenBazzar becomes popular enough like eBay then people will use bitcoin more and it helps bitcoin to grow.

also i might be mistaken but i think you can use any form of payment there, fiat included.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on May 10, 2016, 06:43:33 AM
unfortunately ONLY ONE form of payment at a time - at least for now.

what is required is the ability to pay in any currency, at the price asked.

what we have now is each item needing to have its price adjusted as and when BTC adjusts.

its tiresome and ultimately not worth the effort.

as long as ive been looking fwd to OB, its roll-out has left me underwhelmed.

on multiple fronts, but its early days and no reason we cant have an awesome marketplace in due time.

i'd also like to see a block/name&shame user function - already had one abusive visitor





Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: whored on May 12, 2016, 10:47:52 PM
http://s32.postimg.org/uh0qoh1xh/Capture.gif

https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenBazaar/comments/4iqb97/both_vendor_and_moderator_are_unresponsive_what/

Help him, p2p heroes!


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on May 13, 2016, 12:32:01 AM
OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
I see it has potential. And I can sell/buy my stuff on it, for less.
My first impression to OpenBazaar  1.Good and Simple display 2.easy to access
I hope with this can push bitcoin transaction and make bitcoin more common to use for shopping.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bitlancr on May 13, 2016, 01:06:28 AM
It a pretty nice program for sellers and buyers, the only thing is that it needs more popularity, hopefully this will happen soon or later.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: es2thekay on May 13, 2016, 01:14:39 AM
it seem like a nice project, i have installed on my pc but it keep throwing me the same error. "too many login attempt". is anyone have the same problem ?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: MaritiJames3 on May 13, 2016, 01:27:40 AM
it seem like a nice project, i have installed on my pc but it keep throwing me the same error. "too many login attempt". is anyone have the same problem ?

Its indeed a good and nice project that has been launched and they are already some people using it.
I also had this problem but I do honestly now know how this is happening or what the fix for it is.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Quantus on May 13, 2016, 04:05:09 AM

I want a slim lightweight but fully encrypted operating system that's iron clad and only runs OpenBazaar, anti-virus and a Bitcoin hot wallet, only connects to the world over Tor and has a two click self destruct button.

I mean how else am I going to safely sell all these weapons grade uranium-235 pellets?



Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bomberb17 on August 01, 2016, 04:40:04 PM
Is there any step by step guide on how to create a listing to sell an item etc?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: edgar on August 01, 2016, 08:48:40 PM
pfff..

is this still a thing?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: moneeb on August 01, 2016, 08:51:36 PM
BTC
Beating eBay? No way. Even if you have better script, support, etc you won't beat eBay. You'd need like $ 20K in SEO to beat them.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on August 01, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
OpenBazaar is the Great White Hope™ of Bitcoin.  If you have been waiting for a Bitcoin app that could (eventually) motivate the unwashed masses to buy and use Bitcoin, this is the most likely one to someday do it.  It works (which is a minor miracle), but it needs some usability improvements, and it must have secure encryption built-in before it can reach its full potential.  But when that day comes, the price of Bitcoin will steadily increase as more people use it.  Anyone will be able to buy and sell anything, without restrictions, with no fees.  There is no server that can be shut down.  People will stop what they are doing, in order to find out where and how to buy Bitcoin.  Free news coverage and social media buzz.



Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: dodgecharger on August 01, 2016, 10:55:25 PM
share a review article with you. http://coinour.com/index.php/review-openbazaar-org/


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Lionidas on August 01, 2016, 10:57:13 PM
Haz haz for the bazaar has opened.

Once I get some bitcoin in my hands I will visit and go on a shopping spree to get out of this rutt because of the doom and gloom of the bitcoin price recently.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: elisa9825 on August 01, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
Haz haz for the bazaar has opened.

Once I get some bitcoin in my hands I will visit and go on a shopping spree to get out of this rutt because of the doom and gloom of the bitcoin price recently.
Nowadays it seems most of trading volume goes to ETC and ETH, btc's price is under downtrend pleasure. If you have no faith in holding btc for the long term, I advise you cash out them asap.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Lionidas on August 01, 2016, 11:42:27 PM
Haz haz for the bazaar has opened.

Once I get some bitcoin in my hands I will visit and go on a shopping spree to get out of this rutt because of the doom and gloom of the bitcoin price recently.
Nowadays it seems most of trading volume goes to ETC and ETH, btc's price is under downtrend pleasure. If you have no faith in holding btc for the long term, I advise you cash out them asap.
I know bro I know. I just looked at the price and it is falling hard right now.
I think I will try going over to the dark side and start collect ETH from now on to have something to hold on too when times like this happen to the BTC price. :-\


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Doamader on August 02, 2016, 12:05:14 AM
I were waiting openbazar for a long time, but currently i never used it as looks like i need to download something to be able to go shop there, i like direct websites, i may be wrong but i havent visit openbazar since i saw those thing.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Indrawan77 on August 02, 2016, 01:13:44 AM
I always excited to see new things implemented in bitcoin, hopefully there will be more and more shop implemented bitcoin, openbazaar will be great pioneer for future bitcoin online shop and it has been proven, since openbazaar site launch there are a lot of shop accepting bitcoin now


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: cluit on August 02, 2016, 10:04:05 AM
I always excited to see new things implemented in bitcoin, hopefully there will be more and more shop implemented bitcoin, openbazaar will be great pioneer for future bitcoin online shop and it has been proven, since openbazaar site launch there are a lot of shop accepting bitcoin now
Honestly, I never really felt anything special when OpenBazaar went up.
I was like "this is bound to happen" kind of feeling because of course, I am sure someone would eventually do that and they just did.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: designbuyers on August 02, 2016, 10:28:05 AM
Are you the developer, producer, creator ?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Divinespark on August 02, 2016, 04:18:57 PM
I like the discovery and search function, but the actual selection is still extremely limited compared to Amazon or Ebay. Hope they are able to get more quality sellers onboarded soon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on August 02, 2016, 07:10:25 PM
Are you the developer, producer, creator ?

I'm not , I'm just a simple bitcoiner like most of you on Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: designbuyers on August 02, 2016, 08:07:06 PM
Are you the developer, producer, creator ?

I'm not , I'm just a simple bitcoiner like most of you on Bitcointalk.

This should be move to " Service Discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0) "

Go footer of this page and click Move topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=movetopic;topic=1427196.320)
or click here Move topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=movetopic;topic=1427196.320)


Hope that helps.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: TippingPoint on August 09, 2016, 02:53:29 AM
Can OpenBazaar Make Free Trade Unstoppable?
The mission of OpenBazaar is to give everyone in the world "the ability to directly engage in trade with anyone in the world for free," says Brian Hoffman, the project's 33-year-old project leader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5F0Ohet0co



Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: lakisis on December 27, 2016, 09:51:03 PM
Right now, I saw the first store and I think its pretty nice, now everyone can start such a store and it also looks pretty fine.
The downside is only that you can get scammed if you make such a website and someone makes a look a like from your one and sell the same with lower prices in my opinion.
It will not happen fast of course but its possible for sure.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: nara1892 on December 27, 2016, 10:44:01 PM
https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

We was all waiting for this moment since years , what is your first impression on this when you tested it ? Can we really beat eBay ?
You guys started selling your goods ? I personally didn't start ... yet .

I think I find it difficult to look for stuff to buy that is near from my country or seller from my country because the ship cost should be more expensive than the stuff itself when it is sent from the other country. so I do not try to buy things there yet.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: fullzero on January 06, 2017, 08:58:27 PM
I haven't looked at OpenBazaar since shortly after this thread was opened. 

Have there been any improvements?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on January 07, 2017, 12:51:35 PM
I haven't looked at OpenBazaar since shortly after this thread was opened. 

Have there been any improvements?

Everything should be available to read from their official blog : https://blog.openbazaar.org/ and there is definitely weekly improvements since the first day they released it . Unless they keep developing it and start doing some serious marketing and advertising the software even though Its decentralized , It will end up dead for sure.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: BillyBobZorton on January 07, 2017, 12:53:42 PM
I haven't looked at OpenBazaar since shortly after this thread was opened. 

Have there been any improvements?

Everything should be available to read from their official blog : https://blog.openbazaar.org/ and there is definitely weekly improvements since the first day they released it . Unless they keep developing it and start doing some serious marketing and advertising the software even though Its decentralized , It will end up dead for sure.


This will never take off until governments all around the world remove physical cash and people start working for btc, then people will have a real incentive to use bitcoin to buy stuff, but right now, why would they bother with using crypto to buy stuff when they can use fiat? you need to first convert fiat to then get btc to then buy... too many steps.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Juggy777 on January 07, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
This is a very positive start it's been so many months and I hardly knew about this. It's decent but to say it can take on eBay just cause it accepts Bitcoin is huge imagination. I don't think it can just beat eBay by use of Bitcoin, it will require more than Bitcoin heavy marketing needs to be done. More and more people should be using btc. Each and every country should accept Bitcoin then maybe.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: yvv on January 07, 2017, 03:56:25 PM
The point of openbazaar is not in using bitcoin. The point is a p2p marketplace which is not controled by no authority and does not have no middlemen between buyer and seller. At least, this is what OB creators claim. Bitcoin is just a form of payment which allows automated escrow. OB success will depend on whether people really need such a decentralized marketplace or are they happy enough with ebay.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: mayax on January 07, 2017, 06:01:49 PM
nobody is using it... :)


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: manselr on January 07, 2017, 06:51:57 PM
The point of openbazaar is not in using bitcoin. The point is a p2p marketplace which is not controled by no authority and does not have no middlemen between buyer and seller. At least, this is what OB creators claim. Bitcoin is just a form of payment which allows automated escrow. OB success will depend on whether people really need such a decentralized marketplace or are they happy enough with ebay.


I don't think nobody is going to need anything more than ebay unless they want to buy drugs or avoid taxes, other than that, why would you use OpenBazzar I ask?

If you get paid in bitcoin, maybe you feel tempted to buy something, but as some pointed out... nobody is going to bother to convert fiat into bitcoin paying the exchange fees and waiting for the transactions to happen and so on, just to do the exactly same thing you could have done with regular fiat. Maybe in the future it will come handy, right now is just an experiment, or at least that is the case for developed countries, in other countries with no access to ebay it could be a big hit.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: yvv on January 07, 2017, 07:00:56 PM
The point of openbazaar is not in using bitcoin. The point is a p2p marketplace which is not controled by no authority and does not have no middlemen between buyer and seller. At least, this is what OB creators claim. Bitcoin is just a form of payment which allows automated escrow. OB success will depend on whether people really need such a decentralized marketplace or are they happy enough with ebay.


I don't think nobody is going to need anything more than ebay unless they want to buy drugs or avoid taxes, other than that, why would you use OpenBazzar I ask?

If you get paid in bitcoin, maybe you feel tempted to buy something, but as some pointed out... nobody is going to bother to convert fiat into bitcoin paying the exchange fees and waiting for the transactions to happen and so on, just to do the exactly same thing you could have done with regular fiat. Maybe in the future it will come handy, right now is just an experiment, or at least that is the case for developed countries, in other countries with no access to ebay it could be a big hit.

Countries with no access to ebay have access to plenty of other online marketplaces.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: bitbunnny on January 07, 2017, 07:10:36 PM
I'm not very impressed with OpenBazaar I think there is still lot of space for improvements. The offer could be better also as the number and quality of sellers.
Still the concept of trade available to everyone is good so hope that with time it will reach the standards and popularity of eBay or Amazon.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: sidhujag on January 08, 2017, 12:50:34 AM
I'm not very impressed with OpenBazaar I think there is still lot of space for improvements. The offer could be better also as the number and quality of sellers.
Still the concept of trade available to everyone is good so hope that with time it will reach the standards and popularity of eBay or Amazon.
how could offers be better?


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Wind_FURY on January 08, 2017, 03:50:53 AM
I'm not very impressed with OpenBazaar I think there is still lot of space for improvements. The offer could be better also as the number and quality of sellers.
Still the concept of trade available to everyone is good so hope that with time it will reach the standards and popularity of eBay or Amazon.

Why would there be more quality sellers when almost all Bitcoiners do not really have enough Bitcoins to spend? They have fiat and why do they need to convert to Bitcoin just to use OpenBazaar? Google is a much easier option to use to find items you want to buy with fiat and credit cards.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: sidhujag on January 08, 2017, 03:56:11 AM
I'm not very impressed with OpenBazaar I think there is still lot of space for improvements. The offer could be better also as the number and quality of sellers.
Still the concept of trade available to everyone is good so hope that with time it will reach the standards and popularity of eBay or Amazon.

Why would there be more quality sellers when almost all Bitcoiners do not really have enough Bitcoins to spend? They have fiat and why do they need to convert to Bitcoin just to use OpenBazaar? Google is a much easier option to use to find items you want to buy with fiat and credit cards.
If they did native payments with xmr or zec then they could do private payments and possibly skip the taxman


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: Xester on February 01, 2017, 01:00:51 PM
I'm not very impressed with OpenBazaar I think there is still lot of space for improvements. The offer could be better also as the number and quality of sellers.
Still the concept of trade available to everyone is good so hope that with time it will reach the standards and popularity of eBay or Amazon.

Why would there be more quality sellers when almost all Bitcoiners do not really have enough Bitcoins to spend? They have fiat and why do they need to convert to Bitcoin just to use OpenBazaar? Google is a much easier option to use to find items you want to buy with fiat and credit cards.

very good point.

Its just another option of paying and for much more faster transaction. As you can see people today wanted also to purchase items from different parts of the world and are tired of going to banks to convert their local money to dollars so they can send someone abroad to pay for the ordered items he made. Bitcoin on the other hand is much easier to access, even without going out of the house you can still send you payments via bitcoin to the seller with ease without even going to the bank. It saves time and it saves money from transportation fee.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: marcoman22 on February 01, 2017, 05:18:00 PM
The point Trade was meant to be free would attract a lot.No terms and conditions to sign,no central authorities for restricting the trade seems good.Beating Ebay is far away from reality now as it is such a big giant in online shopping.But it can gain popularity among bitcoin community.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: malikusama on February 01, 2017, 08:23:53 PM
I think it is a great project which will give rise to the market of bitcoins. We can beat eBay in the future if we are able to bring more people in the bitcoins market, however this needs a lot of time. I haven't started selling goods in the OpenBazaar but i will surely in future.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: LeGaulois on February 01, 2017, 09:45:49 PM
The point Trade was meant to be free would attract a lot.No terms and conditions to sign,no central authorities for restricting the trade seems good.Beating Ebay is far away from reality now as it is such a big giant in online shopping.But it can gain popularity among bitcoin community.

I am not familiar with Openbazaar as i have never tried it but at the same time i don't heard a lot about this project. For me it provides neither more nor less than a way obvious to trade "under the radar" and a commercial activity through it while avoiding taxs.


Title: Re: OpenBazaar Opened , your first impressions ?
Post by: yambub on February 15, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
My first impressions were back when it was still in beta, using testcoins. I was amazed at how good the interface was, even at that early stage. It was the first time I actually felt like it would be worth opening a store. There's so much crap involved with opening on etsy and the rest.  This holds a vision of a much better future if we can break through the inertia built up by the old system.

Even now, there are some great stores operating on OB and it will only get better.