Bitcoin Forum

Hello folks!

I'm thinking about starting to trade with Bitcoin, but I see people saying that It's risky & almost like gambling.

I think that I mis-understand the meaning of trading.

For me trading Is for EXAMPLE, buying Bitcoin when It's at 550$ and selling It when It's at 670$. This Isn't risky because If Its value doesn't Increase, you'll just have to keep It until It gets higher enough, Is this trading?

I would really appreciate If people clarified more! Thankx ;)

I think it will not be risky if you are intelligent and will have full knowledge about trade,

if you want to know about trade, then I will say that trade is simple buying with lower price and selling them at higher price. and for remaining details you can see the detailed tutorials available in various articles available on google.

There are some unforeseen events that we cannot predict,like what happen to Bitfinex and how because of this the price of bitcoin plunge to $520 from $670, one bad news or speculation can hinder the price of bitcoin to increase or even drop,since there are no safe investment ,trading bitcoin is also risky..

It is only risky if you are not aware of the market or if you don't know how it works. If you hae all the knowlede to trade then you an do it without a risk. Anyway, all things involving money has a risk so youjust really gotta do what you want to do. There is no point in not risking if you want to move forward.

it is risky because you have to consider everything that can affect the price and make a prediction and then it is possible that something unexpected happens like the bitfinex hack that caused a drop a couple of days ago.

but it is not at all like gambling IF you know how to trade and not just do it random.


yes, i suppose that is a form of trading. you are holding longer though. and you may be forced to hold for a longer time like 2-3 months to reach your target.

With the example u gave , still there is a risk , what if you buy Bitcoin at $550 and 30minutes later it drops to $130? You see there is a risk involved

my advice for you is if you are new player in bitcoin, better you learn a little bit about altcoin trading. because with this condition and situation, its hard if you want to get profit by trading btc-usd. i think its better to trading altcoin, because in altcoin, you have many altcoin that you can choose and you can get profit on there.

if you don't have experience, and you still want to trade bitcoin-usd, my suggestion is trade with small amount for first time, while you can learn more about this kind trading, if you are sure about trading btc-usd, try to middle up your trading amount. this is just learning by doing and learning by watching  ;D

Well, quartz has been a lot of people who explain about this, but if you want to know here, I will explain briefly. bitcoin trading, is a condition where you make money by buying bitcoin at a low price and selling it when the price goes up. but it's not as easy as you think, because you have to be really precise predict when bitcoin prices down and up, if you do that you can earn, and of course this is risky. if you're one of analyzing price as possible after you buy bitcoin at a high price, the price suddenly bitcoin be down, and of course it will make a loss

It is most definitely not like gambling. Gambling is all luck and chance, no skill. Trading requires an educated view of the economy and a little knack for psychology. Check the news. If there's any big happenings, invest on them. Like the recent bitfinex hack, time to buy.

Trading is good according to me, because you can make profit with the help of bitcoin price raise and fall.
For do a good trade You can start invest by small amount in sites like localbitcoin.com with the good account which have nice trust and volume...

its not like whenever you buy an asset it's bound to go up in value!
if trading was that simple everyone would just be buying things, selling them at a higher price & be done with it!
it requires knowledge, skill, experience & an understanding of the underlying events forming the value of the market you're trying to involve yourself in!

for a start drop by investopedia.com (http://investopedia.com), the site has an entire section dedicated to trading;
there are numerous amazing, informative & free articles there about the mechanics, fundamentals of trading & everything else markets;
(the articles are not directly related to cryptocurrencies but the principal is universal!)

Bitcoin trading is simply buying bitcoins with low price, hold it for some amount of time, and then selling it when the price increase. It's risky because we can't guarantee that the price will increase for sure, it can going down and then you have to wait long time or may be even you lose

Bitcoin Trading is a Process In which You Buy Bitcoins at Low Price and Sell them at High Prices....
But It is Not Risky As Gambling. It Is only Risky when you have not Much Knowledge about Trading.....

Its risky because first of all bitcoin itself is risky enough. btc's value goes up and down, its not so much stable, you may see it one day it goes about 700 but goes back to 500+ the next day. Crypto trading can be alot more risky especially id the coin dev turned out to be scam. which most users get to fud as scams. and these are usually the reason why prices goes down.

By reading & understanding all your answers, I conclude that the only risk Is :


That's the only horrific scenario that can happen :D

It depends on the type of investing, holding onto bitcoins is classed as an investment but it's not very risky. Trading on sites like bitmex that offer leverages means you can profit from a rise and fall in the price, this is very rewarding but also very risky. You can also trade altcoins but this is also risky. Another option is cfds, if you have knowledge of trading then this will probably be the best option.

Trading altcoins is gambling.  Period.  These coins (mostly) serve no other purpose than speculation, i.e., trading.  They're not stocks that represent businesses or bonds that represent debt.  They are pure speculation tools, and they are extremely risky to trade.  Christ, even keeping a penny on a cryptocurrency exchange is risky, because of all the "hacking" and such.

If you've seen the behavior of some of the shittier coins like Trump and the ones that went to 1 satoshi on Yobit, you'll see where the real risk lies.  The price can drop 99% in a single day.  It's very much like trading those awful penny stocks.  The shit is worthless.  But have fun doing it, because you could make some $.  But it's totally gambling.

What is CFDS?

What are good sites to get the latest news about Bitcoin and to stay updated on the cryptocurrency market?

It may risk if you trade an altcoin that you dont know if it will alive for a long time. but if you choose a legit altcoin you are in safe..
Risky to choose new altcoin so better to go in legit altcoin like litecoin and dogecoin or monero or clam.. just choose top 20 altcoin in coinmarketcap..

As what you said bitcoin trading is buying low and selling high. About it being risky, when you put your money into something not only in trading but in all investments wherein you give something to gain, there is always risk that you cannot get back the amount you spent but you can minimized the risk by studying it. Knowledge and luck will be your weapon in trading. Knowledge to know whether is it the time to buy or to sell a certain coin according to the current market condition and you need luck also because there are times that an exchange will be hacked like what happen to Bitfinex recently and you can't do something about it because it's a fortuitous event. You are lucky if you don't have bitcoin stored in there during the hacking because you did not lost coins and unlucky for those who have their coins stolen.

there are many places to get the latest news, you can even use google and search for bitcoin news I like coindesk. but most of the news sites are publishing many crappy news that is only click baits and has no value. sometimes they even support something like eth because their interests lie there. so you have to decide which one is valuable and which is crap FUD.

trading is one method used to find or produce a dollar or bitcoin or money by selling when prices are high and buy when the price falls. or can be said is an investment instrument trading foreign currency trading with other foreign currencies. Advantages derived from changes in the currency exchange rates.

All of the online investing is risky gamble like that can win or lose . As trading you can lose if you sold the coins are left to the developers call their dead coins . Many coin are dead now , especially if nrw coins first the price issuper high end prices suddenly fall so losing traders . Compared to gamble? Gambling is too risky than trading because if you lose in gamble its hard to recover the lost . Trading if you lose one try again in another bought and sold coins for a higher pricr up to cover up your first lost.

bitcoin trading is to sell and buy bitcoin at the right time.

Destination of trading bitcoin is making a profit from the margin between the buy and the sale value of bitcoin.

trading is one way to gain an advantage. the advantage gained from the selling of our coins.
we must be smart in choosing the time to sell and buy bitcoin. trading has less risk.

This is one of the biggest risks.  Because the price of bitcoin is so volatile, the above scenario is possible.  I have bought btc at a price that I thought was really good, and then, before I could resell, the price dropped due to news events like the bitfinex hack.  So, if you are going to buy and resell, you may want to resell quickly to reduce your risks.

Another risk is the scammers out there.  I would first start with trading in person.  I would stay away from reversible payment methods, like paypal. 

And yet another risk is that if your bank suspects that you are trading bitcoin, your account could be shut down.  You will eventually get your money back, but it may be tied up with your bank for weeks, meaning you have to factor in the opportunity costs.

Some exchanges do not like you trading bitcoin on other exchanges!  Childish I know, but I personally know traders who got their itbit account closed because people were reselling on localbitcoins.


 

You bet that bitcoin trading is risky. No one guarantees its value. Only ask and demand does the value. Plus it is new thing, bitcoin users are also sort of labrats.

What if regulators in some main market forbid bitcoin? What if some clearly better alternative shows up? Because one day such thing will most possibly come. What if some hacker does it even worse than with bitfinex? You see, the value could still drop dramatically. Although not likely now or next week, it is always possible. What if some lousy hacker steals your bitcoins too? You can lose all.

So, like gambling, you don't want to invest in bitcoin more than you can afford to lose. With this you have peace in mind, whatever happens.

Yes you are right, that is trading.. but if you have clear rules of trading you never be confuse, everything will become clear when you buy and sell, when you make cut lost and it will not becoming gambling because of you have way for analysis price.

even the example you gave involves some risk. because when you wait for the price to increase again, nothing is granted. the price may not go up to the buying point again. any kind of trading has risk. without it there is no profit

Yes you are correct in some sense like buying low and selling high however in certain situation you should also sell at loss to buy back at more cheaper price like last week we see a big dump after bitfinex release news about hack, at that time we should have sold some at 600$ range and than buy back at 500$ range to get 100$ pure profit buy now on every bitcoin we have purchased.

the risk comes from not knowing the future, and also not knowing everything there is to know. for example you couldn't possibly know that bitfinex is going to be hacked and the panic is this huge driving bitcoin price to $480.
but you can reduce this risk too, but things like "stop loss". you automatically sell if the price goes down and you lose % money.

Bitcoin trading basically is buying at a low price and then selling them in a higher price. It's not that risky if you can wait for months or years or even decades. Bitcoin price grows really really slowly. Some people think the risk is not that much but actually the chances of you losing money is really high. For example, if you bought 5 bitcoins at 600$ and then you needed to get some emergency money but at that time, bitcoins are worth 450$. You just lost 150$ x 5 because of that. So, don't put money in investing bitcoins if you're just going to pull it out early.

It is not risky, if you know the Bitcoin market very well. Then you can buy at low and sale at high. The problem is if you buy at low price and price is going down, so you make losses instead of profit. In any case if you know Bitcoin market very well, you can buy at right time.  ;)

every action there must be a risk. especially to get the money, we have to capitalize the money to make a profit. trading is a safe investment, but still quite risky. the important thing is we are smart to manage time in the buying and selling bitcoin we have.

yes, you are right! trading bitcoin isn't risky, only need to be patient to hold and know the right time to sell it (so keep follow the new update about bitcoin price on the market)
but if you trading other alt-coins, it will be more risky because another coin is not too popular to stay strong on market, sometime we think it will be great to hold it for long time but in the fact it got pump just a while and then everyone left it (so we got useless alt-coin to hold because low opportunity to get pump again in the future)

All trading is High risk
your trading forex is over high risk is compare bitcoin
you are selling in the market, go to any store, is also equally at risk to suffer losses
because all about trading price is up or down so all trading can get profit or lost

Could experience a huge drop at any point and lose a ton of cash, but I guess you could also make a good amount!

EH, It's worth a shot.

   Trading is risky if you don't know what are you doing. Definition is simple, buy when price is low, sell when price is up. But what if price start to go down after buying? What if you can't sell after buying? What if hackers hack exchange site?
   When there is too many "what if" situation is risky. Many things can go wrong in trading, that is for experienced people with knowledge about economy. It's not easy to predict movement of the market, the ones who knows make profit, others just lose.

for someone who is new to trading and asking a question like OP i suggest them to stay away from coins like ETH because of the huge amount of manipulation these coins have the new traders will only get dumped on.

I think you just answered your own question... i think that is trading... i am trading with cex.io right now, started with 0.3btc 3 weeks back now i am having 0.5btc
Its just like u said, buy low, sell high but it takes time for a beginner like me as i don't have much to invest...

If you want to buy low and sell high as you mentioned , you might wait a lot of time , look at Bitcoin price now , it is nearly stable , how will you make profit ? if you bought now , that mean you are freezing your money , and what about fees ?
I think trading is not that easy , and most of traders turns to trade altcoins when Bitcoin price is stable , you must read news and learn from other traders who have good experience . This site may help you :
http://www.newsbtc.com/

It is risky because if you take long position on bitcoin in a bear market, you will get rekt. This wouldn't be much of a problem if bitcoin were a currency like Euro but it isn't. Because there are so little merchants who take bitcoins as payment and don't care its USD value. If btc falls to 400$ after you get in when the price was 600$, that pretty much means that you are fckd.

You are correct that if you buy at $550 and sell at $670, you have made money, so it doesn't seem risky. However, you may buy at $550 and it may drop to $450,so you lose money. Or you buy at $550 and there is some problem with the blockchain and the price drops to $10. You also risk the exchange taking all of your money like MtGox and cryptsy did for many of us.

Yah that's trading buying low and selling high but you forgot the price is decrease sometimes, thats why it's risky if youll buy bitcoin at high price and then the price continue to decrease after you buy it you are in lost profit if you don't want to sell it immediately you will wait for it to back again to increase if you don't want to loseand we didn't know how long we will wait for it.. That's why it's risky sometimes.

yes it is true, are all at risk and just like gambling. but the risk on trade bitcoin safer. but if a case when you buy and the price drops, you are only able to be patient for the price back up. whereas in gambling you may lose all in an instant.

but if you trading altcoin with fluctuations in the price, it was quite risky, but the gains could be more than trading bitcoin.

Trading is best way for make money on cryptos coins, but it is high risk because fluctuating of price it self. And it needs method before do it. If you wanna trade cryptos coins, i suggest to you for trade alt coins for first time with capital who can lost them.

patience is not "THE" key, it is one of the keys to success in trading. you need a lot more than that to earn a profit in trading. you have to have the experience and enough knowledge to be able to find a coin to invest in or even find a good price to buy bitcoin and then in the next step you need patience to reach profitability.

Yeah exactly :D

I think, one should learn to differentiate between trading and investment. Investments are for long term and it has nothing to do with 20% price fall or 10% price increase in the short term.

As said, investments are based on long term so it gets benefit of sustainable growth whereas trading is something which takes benefits of current fluctuations (as you said buying low and selling high). Due to some incidents (like recent exchange hack) traders get good levels to buy and as we have experienced it before, we know that such price fall won’t last long but no one can predict the period of such effects so investors get good returns as they have nothing to do with short term whereas traders are expecting short term benefits, it’s risky for them to get returns.

You are right but sometimes it happen that the price of bitcoin do not increase after you buy, but it decrease, so in that case you lose your money, but for good traders it is not a problem as you may have noticed that the price of bitcoin ( or any other coin) fluctuates while rising or dropping, so the traders try to get the benefit from that fluctuations and get a good profit.

Bitcoin is not risky than you think or if you compare that in gambling trading is more safe than gambling..
Trading is risky if you dont have a proper knowledge and how you manage your trading strategy.. it needs knowledge so if you trading there without knowledge its risky..

Yeah right its more risky in gambling its more safe in trading because it easy to make a profit there also if the price of altcoin is low you can be still wait for a long time and sell it for a right time to make a profit but if you have no patience and sell it later without profit you lose.

Yeah, you are right, if some one is expert in trading then he do no face any risk, as he can earn profit from trading even if the price of the asset is dropping. You just need to get knowledge about trading and go to trade, you will not lose .

Gambling is risky as much as trading because we need to invest our money in both the cases and we can decide the bet amount as well.
Trading also requires an investment and since I bought almost 0.3 BTC last month at $750, I am still waiting for the price to reach that amount while it's still stuck at $580. It's patience that's required in both cases.

Bitcoin trading is not worth the time as I have been trading for almost 2 years and still I do not get why the price rises and drops in seconds. It's good that I can sell my coins instantly on trading websites but even if I have bought them at a higher rate and want to sell them for a loss, I still incur fees which is totally disappointing. Forex trading is better than bitcoin trading. Even altcoin trading is preferable.

when compared to forex trading then I think altcoin better trading. maybe some people would consider that generate a lot of money could be more convincing and reliable. forex trading more convincing because they are guaranteed by a company that has been recognized by the government of a country.

because price bitcoin is fluctuative
nobody is control price bitcoin, not price resistance not price support
waves price up is down is over high or over low
and and there is no limit highest price or lowest price

i think the biggest risk in bitcoin trading, and much more in some altcoins, it is the very high volatility.
just an examples:
check the 2016-08-02 candle...
and try to check change % between candle high and low...
really high

There is No Rocket science Behind the Trading Simply Trading is Buying Low and Sell at High and There Involves Risks Because We Can't Predict the price of a Particular Altcoin......
For Example If we Buy Bitcoin at 600$ and Then the Price Will Decreasing Day By Day Then We are in Loss And We Have to Wait Till the Price the Of Bitcoin Go Higher than 600$ To make Some Profit So It Needs Patience.....

Yes trading is a risky things and almost like like gambling but it is better than gambling, you have no idea when the coin is going collapse or when the price is going to up, so you kind of guessing, but in trading you have news and chart to help you to decide whether the price is going up or down

technically to earn profit you need to buy low and sell when it is high, but it is not that simple, to know whether when is the right time to do either of that need time and experience, keeping the coin until is high enough and then sell it can be called trading but how long are you going to wait until the price is right? how if the price stuck and never go up again, so every action to earn has it's risk, trading also got it's own risk

actually the main part of trading risk especially when it comes to the trading of crypto currencies is that there are so many newbies with little to no experience doing it which makes them easy targets for pump and dump so they lose their money easily because of their lack of experience and knowledge.

although there is always the obvious risk of using exchanges which may run away at any moment.

i will suggest you instead of worrying about its lost you need to take a better study about Bitcoin trading with altcoin .
because with the wise trading you will never got any loss .
so start trading with wise mind after the study .
and a suggestion for you is never invest that amount of money that can't be handle or manage by you .

If its bitcoin trading, It is easy if you have knowledge about it . Trading is when you buy it at a lower price then sell it at a higher price.  If you only want to trade bitcoins then it is easy.

But if you're also planning on trading other altcoins, Then it will be hard and the risk wil be higher cause you will have a wide variety of selection and they all have their own specification. 

Although I think it will be more profitable if you also trade with altcoins.

I suggest that before trading, Do some study about it.  You can find some great articles on google.

Let's make this clear first because others might mislead with the sayings you said about trading is an easy activity. If only words can dictate the trading moves then I might agree that trading is easy but it's not. Buy low Sell high is just as the same as saying A, B, C. If things are easy why there are still lots of loss and even doing some deep research before they start bitcoin trading? Experience traders why still suffers lose?

Trading is not an easy task whatever assets people are trading. No one can accurately say what will be the exact price of an asset in  given date.

As mentioned by most users Bitcoin Trading is really a good way to earn profit periodically, but problem with this is the investment. To get a earning, then needs to have a huge investment to get a stable price, other than which the price is unpredictable which needs more time to grab a big profile.

there are some bitcoin related trading partner that is somehow risky.  One of it is trading bitcoin to altcoin.  Trading bitcoin to altcoin is different from trading bitcoin to currency because in trading currency, you know that your bitcoin won't lose value overnight because of the base users supporting bitcoin or vice versa. While trading altcoin, there is a possibility that the coin you choose to buy with bitcoin and intend to hold for a long run is a shitcoin that will become worthless overnight.  And this things happen in altcoin/btc trading pair.

No, you do not need very big initial capital to get profits from trading. Many people are managing with very small capital still they are earning some decent amounts from their trading. The only requirement must be you have developed proper technical analysis skills, without that trading will not be profitable for anyone.

Yeah right but the problem you will risk it into new altcoin that we dont know if they will stay long or not.. because some of them are scam or 8/10 are not successful to be increase after released.. For me i am satisfied what i am earnings right now im stay at 600k marketcap those above i think you have a chance to make a good profit if you have large amount of bitcoin you can make a good profit.. small amount is a good idea if you are just newbie but if you know how to trade better to increase it because its not enough to make profit and patience.

Trading can help users to make profits, but not everyone makes a profit in that market, only those with discipline and focus to make the right decisions. One must also have the right timing, since certain opportunities are not there for long.

What stable price do you mean? i think you dont need to invest huge or large amount of money in trading you can tart in small amount if you are just newbie better to find a good way to make good profit in trading learn it and you will discover the secrets that you are sure you can make a good profit..  before you can invest a large amount and try your self.. patience is needed in trading to make profit,

Yes it is true that it can help users to make a profit but it is not easy as that.  A user needs to learn the basic and character of a trader.  He also need to know how to read charts and data in order for him to have an advantage on predicting next price of the things he is trading.  He also needs to be updated with news and development of the item he is holding so he can sell at the right time.

Bitcoin trading is buying bitcoin and selling it for profit.  It is risky because of the uncertainty of the event that will happen in bitcoin and the possible decline in price from the first day we bought bitcoin. Though I can say trading bitcoin with its risk is one kind of a gamble traders like us have to face and hope that price will increase than decrease so we can sell our holdings with profit.

Trading is unpredictable and risky if you don't hold a good knowledge of it and trading never guarantees you the profits and if you are entering into it without any strategy then it will be a really risky move to make as you cannot depend only on luck every time to make profits from trading.

trading is risk because price is not always up but down price too
so is down price so your lost money
but you not lost all money, direference with gambling, gambling you can lost all money if your bet not accurate

definitely trading is actually risky,especially if you just got trapped into buying a ton of shitcoin and then the value of the coin just turning out near to dust,you will lose all your money on it.and on gambling you can lost all money not because the bet wasn't accurate but whether it's accurate or not doesn't matter, all depen on your luck

It is risky because some coin in the market gets decreased its value very much in just an hour and it literally dies. So it's a kind of strategies and right prediction you need in trading with bitcoin.

Yes, with the strategies and strong analysis we can protect ourselves from the risks involved usually in bitcoin trading. But personally I do feel, bitcoin trading is not that much risky when we are comparing it with Forex trading.
Bitcoin volatility is always measurable and in long run it is always up surging so I do not see big risk with bitcoin trading personally.

Bitcoin trading is you trade bitcoin for something like fiat or altcoins. Altcoin to fiat trading is risky because some altcoins today are scam or just a pump and dump scheme. Good altcoins like doge and ltc are much better altcoin to trade, not that big profit but you won't regret buying it. Fiat to btc trading is also risky because it is based on a real market and it's value drops and rise fast but not that big.

if you trading bitcoinn
and bitcoin price always stable you can't profit
because you buy and sell this price is same, if you want profit bitcoin price not stable, always wave bitcoin price and you can get profit

The coin’s value fluctuates with its market demand, and is worth its day’s exchange value all over the world, regardless of where it is spent. There’s no need to change currencies on business trips or holidays, as its value stays the same regardless of strengths or weaknesses in non-virtual currencies.

It's a fair explanation. Most of the altcoins are scams, few have been fairly distributed. Litecoin is an example of a good cryptocurrency, with a good distribution, but in my opinion the trading volume is too low to make significant profit.

What you are telling is the correct way of trading , in trading you have to be patience if you have purchased on high rate and you should no go for one shot full trading you should split your purchasing on low rates, like this your purchase rate will also come down and if their is any rise in price then you can easily sell and get profit

Not just litecoins, there are many fairly distributed altcoins are being traded, the thing is we must choose after closely following them. Yes, usually trading is not viable to start immediately on the day one itself. We must prepare ourselves be closely watching few alt coins with their volume and trading levels. Otherwise we might get struck with scam alt coins.

Every day new altcoins were getting developed. So one needs to be very careful while selecting a particular altcoin for trading purpose. Only very few altcoins have been popular among the users. So need to choose wisely after a great examination of price movement, only then we can make good profit with trading.

i am agree with you sir. it will be safe to trade between bitcoin with popular altcoins at least top ten in the list of marketcap so we can make profit. this is what i learn so far and i think its work.

The example gave by you us right but the main problem in bitcoin trading is only when the price goes sharply down .
For example if you made buy of bitcoin at $500 and then sudden get down about $50/btc then you got the problem to sell it high rate .

bitcoin trading is a situation where you buy bitcoin at a low price and sell at a high price. Well, it is risky because if it does not match the predictions that you do, then you will get the loss, and if the price of bitcoin down in a short time, and you do not sell in a short time, then you just make yourself a big loss

No chance to Bitcoin goes to $50. I agree with his example, that is trading holding BTCs, the most safe way to trade Bitcoins. We know this coin price is always going up, so there is no fear to lose money this way (on long term).

But alt-coins trading and short term BTC trading is risk, because we have more chances to make a mistake and lose money. Alt-coins because their price is very unstable, and BTC because we can sell it on the wrong hour (on daily trades, short term).

I think bitcoin trading is trading bitcoin with different pairs like Bitcoin to US dollar , Bitcoin to Euro or bitcoin to other altcoins.  It is risky because we never predict the price and the probability that the price of bitcoin get lower the moment we bought it.  In its pair, like for example we bought an altcoin and we did not realized that the altcoin we bought is a scamcoin, then the price go down next to worthless and now we are bagholding a worthless altcoin.  In this scenario, our fund is lost due to the wrong decision we made in trading.

Yes you right if someone have knowledge in trading i think its not risky for them because they know the technique how to trade they get alot of profit. But the problem if newbie do trade with out knowing that is so risky maybe they lost their money.

Yeah due the bitcoin volatility character that may can dropped as hell make trading bitcoin very risky
But as long as you have a good money management I think everything will be just fine
Taking risk is an ordinary thing to do in business .

This is a mistake, you can profit even if the price of bitcoin is stable by charging a premium like the sellers on localbitcoins and even the traders here on the forum.

What are you talking about? You are confusing OP, trading is very risking, and cause of that high risk its like gambling.
OP asked "why its risky?", simply cause its not easy to catch moments when its low and when its high. Its easy for us to talk about price going up or down, when you need to invest more then 1000 $ your hands are shaking in either way.
Don`t get into trading if you are not ready to risk on information`s that you found on internet or any other source. Cause that is what bitcoin trading is, you buy or sell in the moment when all your info make a feeling in you about changing of price, for that feeling you need to know the game.

all online trading bitcoin still the best savety in compare another platform
you can compare online trading gold in meta trader 4, trading forex, trading comodities bitcoin still the best and low risk

And the problem is even more severe ragarding altcoins. Unfortunately, some people don't know that most of them are scams, with a very bad distribution.
This allows a small group of people to be able to control the supply, and consequently control the cycles of pumps and dumps, making inexperienced users lose money.

This is  indeed a  trading because   you do  buy bitcoins   on a particular  low price then  sell it  on a  high price.  You could  definitely say that thing that  theres no risk  when you do that  kind of   trading  which is considered as  long   trading  because  you would  just need  to wait   on a particular price point. The risk  involve on trading bitcoin  is  on  the  time  which  bitcoins price would  go  too  much  lower  on  your buy  price.

It is pretty much like that but there is more into trading. But the gist of it is you will predict in what direction the price will go. If it is going down, then you will short it. If it is going up then you go long. There are times when the chart says it will go up and you go long but then the price goes down, so you lose. Or if you predicted the price will go down, so you short, but it goes up. Those scenario always happen in bitcoin because bitcoin fluctuates a lot.

If the price of bitcoin becomes stable, earning good profit is really a hard thing, but as I mentioned in the earlier quote even if fluctuation happens with small number of bitcoin or investment making stable earning is not possible. Huge number of bitcoin or investment is required.

It doesn't really matter if you're trading with just 1BTC or 1000BTC, it's not possible to reach a stable level of income consecutively.

However, major traders on Chinese exchange can even make profit at times there barely is any volatility.

The aspect of trading with zero fees is something that helps them in a major way as it allows them to move the market in their preferred direction.

You always have bots looking to constantly place orders above your own order. This is how you can gain profits easily when you're a market mover.

In that aspect, market movers operating on Chinese exchanges with zero trading fees are able to make profits basically all the time. The amount of profit however is never the same.

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Will it work from any meta trader platform or I need to download from that particular forex dealer ? Is there any risk involved having a meta trader with your log-on details like we have seen many people were simple hacked through skype conversations.  I suspect any vulnerability similar to that anything.

Any expert confirms the reliability of this services will be more helpful for many aspiring traders here.

Hello! Yes, works fine with any MT4 platform, to be sure you can download clean latest version from metaquotes site.

Agree about Skype, use it with care only from virtual machine ) Also as advice - run anything you have doubt about on virtual machine.

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It's really risky when you don't know what you are doing in trading but if you know what to do in daily basis then you can really make some good profit in short term of trading and the advantage of trading once the coins is not pumped up you can just hold them till the price will up again or re sell it much more cheaper than the original price.

Absolutely agreed. And more, beside knowing about trading and how markets works very important thing to choose right market platform or broker. These things bring some risk too.
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They still are getting developed. If we check the ico list then you will be surprised how many project are getting developed and how many people are involved in these project which are very risky, good profit and good for bitcoin. Choosing the best one is not easy and needs lots of time and a large community.

There is no way to eliminate risk even when using those strategies, for example what if it takes 10 years to reach your desired profit point, are you really going to wait that much time, and what about the devaluation the currencies of the world may suffer in the meantime, and that is just the tip of the iceberg concerning the risk of a long term strategy.

Yes you are right about trading buy while low price and sell while high price, but there are no people who give guarantee the price will going up after you have bought, yes you are right you can keep it until it gets higher enough, but it is mean you don't get any income and you must be ready waiting for long time that is why the people say trading is high risk activity.  ;D

Trading could be risky if you don't have much knowledge about it and no experience. The main rule is buy low and sell high but that is not always so easy.
Sometimes you can make wrong decision calculating when is the best moment to buy or sell and then you can lose the money.You have to watch the market and price all the time. Arbitrage trading could be especialy risky because you have to react very fast and sometimes you just don't have the time. More you invest, more you put at risk.

Some of the arbitrage trades are being done by bots that can react a lot faster than any human very soon most of the arbitrage opportunities are not going to be there for human traders anymore.

I think the majority of traders are usig now bot so that it can help save time and at the same , it is more convenient to buy/sell at the price that you want.

You can not buy or sell bitcoins at your own preferred price levels by using trading bots because bots will do buy or sell by its own analysis and predictions based on its pre-programmed parameters.

That is the reason bots are not profitable for me in many occasions, they will buy/sell based on usual market fluctuations and I have concluded a sudden market raise or dump will get us trapped if we go trading with bots for all types of market fluctuations.

Thanks for the heads up, I have always thought that bots, especially those for sell, cannot be that good because if they were what was going to stop you to keep all those great profits for yourself.

bot is very helpful to save our time. but to get the most I think the manual is the best way.
because we can freely determine any action that we will do. it makes us more rights in any outcome that we can.

Trading  bots  are  only good  to  use  if  you are already expert or experienced  on  trading  because   bots are  just for  automation  on  your trade  and if  youre a  newbie  you  cant  hardly understand  on how to use that  bot  so its  not really advisable.  Manual trading  is good  because you will learn  with every trades

that's completely true those who's using bot are the one's that really understand the market movements as they already expecting what particular ways the price will go, i think there are some expert who entrusted their trade to a bot but they still checking and changing it from time to time depending on how the market will move.

yes that is a fact that all kind of investing are risky but you can minimize your risk, if you have sound knowledge about in which you are going to invest your money or going to traded.

no risk - no profit  ;) 

You say has included trade. Indeed, it seems easy to buy when the price of $ 550 and sell when the price of $ 670, but very risky, fluctuations in bitcoin. We do not know whether bitcoin will rise or fall, and in bitcoin we do not know for sure if the fluctuation in the number of large or small. It took great comprehension to understand the bitcoin. Although risky but if the price rises correctly you will make a profit, it return on each person.

Basiccaly risk and profit are directly proportional on trading and on trading we can manage the risk and we can manage the profit too,  everything depend on the system of trading that be made by the traders them selves. If the traders doesn't have it, the trading will become more high risk.

Obviously if a person wants do to trades, they must learned how to managed those possible risks so that they can accompanied their trading luck with their trading decision. And if the waves favored to them due to the fact that they able to managed those risk, they can see a sure profits at it's finest and even can bring them into long term trading.

It's not that a trader will completely abolished all the risk involved, it's impossible, they will just do some wise choice out of their deep analyzation in order to ; minimize the loss or secure profits without being a greed one.

to decide where you're going to invest also such a hard thing to be done,you may driven to the wrong place or project by some fudders and that's why better learn first before investing your money into some kind of project or business

that is natural law

Then bots are not as useful as we may think since you still need to babysit them trough the process of trading, personally I will prefer to trade with out them.

Why are bots useful? For one, a good bot will handle much of the gory details (proper position sizing and money management, executing stop losses, etc), and it can place orders much faster (and without making silly mistakes) than a human can.

If you came up with a good idea for a trading strategy, implemented it as an algorithm (*), backtested it to find the "optimal" parameters (i.e. you curve fitted it to historic data; don't do it too much), then backtested it with a wide range of parameters around that optimum (and it still worked), then you just got a life and a lot less headaches.

(*) If your trading strategy can't be automated, then you don't have a strategy, period.

There is some truth to your statements but like always there are exceptions, for example the Mexican peso lost value during the US election, how could a bot been able to predict such an outcome? Anyone that watched the elections knew why but it is not something that can be read in a chart or something.

Yes, risk and profit are directly proportion, if you are taking much risk your percentage of profit increase, to me I think risk is involve in all kind of trading and there is not a sing  trading where no risk is involve.

If you want to make money you have to take risk, without facing it you cannot make money, in trading you can reduce your risk of making money if you have some good experience and skill of trading.

All investments do really have risk and trading is not excluded on that because its already an investment which you will definitely put up money to gain money because if you don't put risk on it  you will not earn something same as you mentioned too. Experience does really matter to be profitable on trading  and which really helps to lessen to risk compared on trading blindly.

:) It couldn't. Yes, there are legitimate foreseeable reasons to cut back on risk exposure: the US election, brexit, etc.

But then again, maybe it wouldn't need to. A good strategy can recognize volatility is going up and reduces positions to reduce risk. Even better (and maybe more relevant to the calm before the storm before big events), it could see volatility is frozen to death, so it would assume something may be about to blow up, thus reduce positions proactively (don't ask me to implement that one just yet though :D; it's not easy to figure out how to place those kind of lines.)

Robust strategies are distinguished by how they manage money and risk exposure, not how well they can "predict." If you size your positions well and have solid exit rules, you can make money even if you randomly enter just about anything; entry rules ("prediction") may help to avoid idiotic mistakes, get a little better edge, but it can't drive a strategy by itself.

Oh by the way, predictions don't work. Don't get me wrong: predictions do work most of the time; it's just, when they break, they break spectacularly. This is why, in a fundamentally unpredictable environment, trend following is better than mean reversion: the first is based on limiting your downside, the second on freediving dips (and you oxigene is running out.) Let's also not forget that trend following has an unlimited upside, while your upside is by definition capped for mean reversion. Basically, trend following uses unpredictability to extend the right tail of the return distribution, while mean reversion tries to instead push the mode to the right, while pretending that long left tail (a.k.a. "blowup") does not exist.

Marrying the two to an extent is a good idea, though: follow the overall trend, but scale in and out using the lows and highs. Now that is something you don't want to manage manually even on less fast paced markets than crypto.

Yes it is really like that the risky part is the transaction that will hapoern . Like to whom you will trade your btc . He might scam you. Anyway just have a proper conversation and be intelligentbenough in strategies in good trading.

Omg this is so adorable ;D

There is no rule that says the thing you bought can't go straight to zero without ever trading higher than the price you bought it at.

It's really good that you know how to understand the graph on the market and you need to know where to buy and when to sell your coins because if you don't know you can lose your bitcoin or your capital in bitcoin important things is always keep your eyes open.

Actually it is not a work of risky way but it needed a long patience instead of sudden profit .
I am in trading from 4 month and my experience is saying always put your sell  order on definite amount on advance . Secondly your advance order for sell should or price 40% more than your buy price .

What do you do if the price doesn't go up 40%? For example, if it falls 80%? Not happy.

How will you feel if the price goes up 200%, but you sold at 40%, because that was your "target"? Not happy.

I really like the illustrations here. This is the basic reactions of people with price movement on trading. But also remeber the Accumulation stage and Distribution stage.


That is true since trading is also risky and tricky. It needs a carefull analysis too.

That graphic is pure genius I LOL a lot with it but in a serious note we must understand even if you had all the technical skills in the world it does not mean you have the right character and personality to ride the ups and downs of the market, you need a very special personality to do so.

Aaaaand this is the most important reason that I'm for algorithmic trading: I do NOT have that kind of personality, but I can sure formalize a strategy and leave up the stressful task of executing it to a machine.

The only problem in trading i think patience if you do not have a patience in trading you will lose..  because bitcoin price is unpredictable and if you are not smart and thinking that the price will going to dump mor just like in illustration the man who has no patience he sell his bitcoin for low price. instead of waiting more time that the price will go back to normal or increase more to make a profit..
So patience is the solution if you are in trading, yeah it is risky if you do not analyze the movement..

Yeah patience is always the problem in trading.  Not only the lack of patience is the problem but too much patience will make you left by the train too.  There are certain cases that holders were left bagholding a worthless altcoin due to waiting too much.  Maybe it driven by a greed or a miscalculated prediction.  But waiting is patience and this time there is too much waiting.  So I think patience and timing is the best key in trading, you lack one , you will fail miserably.

I guess all that can make an income on the internet has a risk level of each. Well, according to my experience, trading is one way to make money on the internet that have a fairly high degree of risk if you do not have knowledge about trading. before trading, you have to learn about it, even very many trading demo version made for beginners. you have to learn to play the trading prior to play it, because it would be risky if not done

Honestly it is not so high if we compare it in gambling because if you bought a altcoin you can be still sell it because it has still a value. that can recover your loses,. unlike in gambling that if you lose you can not recover anything..
If you are talking about the making money in the internet well we can say it is not so high because there is some marketing online also losing large amount of money..
Yeah studying trading it can help you to get less risk and to make a good profit..

It's complicated enough that you can play around for as long as you want and it will still be risky; there are just too many subtleties involved to pick up on all of them by yourself.

Let's follow Wall Street then, they can't be wrong, right?! Sharpe ratios, mean reversion, averaging down, fundamental analysis, all that crap. However, Wall Street has no incentive to make money on the long run, because they get rich in the short run (and then they blow up their customers' accounts, but who cares when they already got their bonuses?) So, let's not follow Wall Street... But who, then?

The problem I found was that most information out there are from clueless idiots such as myself. It took months to find a few sensible sources, and they are invariably people with institutional background (i.e. they actually did what they are talking about), who then de-institutionalized themselves and fared well on their own (i.e. they actually know what they are talking about.) They are the people to listen to, not the charlatan mentors who will sell you their crappy strategies full of Fibonaccis and wave theories and 6-month plans and other mindblowing idiocies.

I think not only internet but all king of trading are risky and so in case of bitcoin as most of the people are using bitcoin as investment and for trading purposes because in most of the area people do not have facilities to use it as currency to trading  bitcoin is as risky other kind of trading.

Bitcoin will never be risky once you know how to trade an altcoins.
Before you trade or invest your money in trading, make sure to
seach some videos on how to trade in bitcoin. Its risky when you
dont know nothing in bitcoin trading.Atleast you know the first rule
is buy some cheap coins and sell at a higher price.

Bitcoin Trading, is mean altcoin trading which we can call crypto currencies trading, as everyone know about it, And if we are talking about Ricky, So definitely, bitcoin is depend on risk. As you said trading is risky like gambling, no doubt, because we don't know till the end how can we earn from it or not. Personally i believe every business and every field is depend on risk, so what matter if bitcoin is depend on risk? 

Everything in the world has a risk associated with it, driving you car has risk even getting out of your house has risk, what we must do is to asses the risk and see if we are comfortable taking it, right now personally I'm very comfortable with the risk associated with bitcoin since the gains are very good.

I partly agree with your statement but I also think that there is a risk even if you are an experienced trader. Experienced trader is one who knows what kind of risk is there and how to deal with it and on the other hand newbies try to follow charts and opinions of shoutbox and eventually end up with great loss. Market is going to move as per its flow and having experience or not doesn’t affect market but our own trading strategy and indirectly out profits and loss.

Trading is when you buy a altcoin for a low price and sell it  when its price comes up so you will have to keep an eye on the market.

Risks? The most common risk is the altcoins short life span, If you search in google, you will see that most altcoins got dumped in just a short period of time.

The other one is failing to predict the price, example is when a certain altcoins price is getting lower and lower so you sell it all to avoid losing money more, Sometimes the coins price might increase again.

the price increase after being dumped very far only for popular coins such as ethereum and the rest. most likely to be dead and deleted from the market after there's none activities around . would prefer cut lose rather than really losing the whole of money on just an altcoin

But sometimes due to the domino effect, after the dump, it will stay a bit then it will continue to decline in price.  Just what happened  in the first month of 2014, after the bitcoin bubble of 2013 burst.  It was dumped and due to the negative impact made by that dumped, Bitcoin price continue to fall down to sub 200 USD then eventually recover upto what it is right now.

Past performance can't guarantee future results. Also, the quoted past above is pointing to altcoin trading where we all know that price behaviour is very much different compare by doing bitcoin trades.

Always expect a massive dump after a bubble and it's always happened many times especially in bitcoin price. People minimize the possible loss or to secure profits that's why they are taking the ride everytime there is a bearish activity rather than just watched the price without doing nothing.

Making a wise decision is much better than targeting the exact thing to be executed. If people succeeds in predicting the price after making a good trading decision then they just made a wise decision.

Yeah. Sometimes going with the flow will higher the possibility of loosing money if you do not know what you are doing. Some are just trolling others or the newbie trader to be exact and they are fooling them making it look like many are buying the coin. So the thing is newbie traders are going with the flow thinking the price will continue to go upwards but as they get the price they want. Soon, they will dump the coin causing a negative trade to those who bought at high price.

I think its normal happening since people for that moment are afraid to lose  some of their money,.and the adoption fot that time is not enough to regain back the price where it falls down, but come and look for the price for now people who bought for that moment are surely be rich by now since the stretch is continuosly growing and might the past 10000$  well be achievable again for this year or maybe in next.


Surely 200$ dip is so far to be seen for this time.

-200$ dip  as of todays current state price is not possible to see on this year even on the next year because it has a good support and sudden dip of price its not possible   if we are talking on normal price movements but if theres another bad circumtances or news then it might happen but im hoping iwe will not experience that. Bitcoin trading is really risky because of volatile price.

Not only bitcoin but mostly everything that you trade online is very risky because it's something digital and you can't control it 100% from hackers or from any other factor.

Trading bitcoin is risky because of being new in trading (not have enough knowledge) or being new in managing the money, and bitcoin wallets.

Agreed! our generation nowadays is very high tech actually, In fact everything we want to know is too easy to find out or you have to ask Mr. google about the thing you wanna know. And in bitcoin world is a kind of industry were the community are willing to lost their money whether investing in trading, ICO, or cloudmining. Then if you really wanna know about in trading just proceed in the trading discussion like here.

I confirm that this generation is in high levels of technology and trading bitcoin is another way out of traditional way which is the paper money of you currency which you country has. Bitcoin trading is in a form of crypto currencies which is the altcoins that you use in trading your bitcoin which involves risk specially its price will trending up and down is very unpredictable and you need to do analysis before deciding to buy or sell it, thats how risky bitcoin trading is. Much more risk if you had invested it to a scam trading site and toke all you've invested btc, so before taking risk seek advice from expert mentors who can guide you most of the time of doubts.

Not this again. Volatility DOES NOT equal risk. It's like saying "high temperatures are bad"; well, try to cook a meal in cold water...

yeah you can lower the risk by doing that aswell as you can more money or to familiarize all sides in tradings if you have a guy who's willing to teach you on how to trade correctly and what are the things we need to avoid to minimize such bad lose and maximize our profits in tradings, although its still have risk but for the fact that your doing some right decision in your trades well you can still earn profit, and mostly i do tradings on big name in trades and that must all people brought up and think big sites to trade on so they will not be scammed by what you so called scam trading sites.

Literally every single piece of financial literature on the planet contradicts your statement. Why? Maybe because of the very definition of Volatility which is:

"Volatility is a statistical measure of the dispersion of returns for a given security or market index. Volatility can either be measured by using the standard deviation or variance between returns from that same security or market index. Commonly, the higher the volatility, the riskier the security."
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/volatility.asp
 (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/volatility.asp)
In other words bitcoin going up and down 10% is somewhat volatile whereas bitcoin rising 1300% in 2013-2014 is very volatile. Trading altcoins in very very volatile. Make sense?

bitcoin trading use pair altcoins is high risk but high return
another platform online trading, bitcoin pair fiat money is low risk
this rank risk online trading
1 gold
2 altcoin
3 forex trading
4 bitcoin pair fiat money is low risk

Yep. Mostly because, of the hundreds(if not thousands) of altcoins created, the majority was just for pump and dump and only a select few have managed to stay. Not to mention all the fakes/scams.

Another risk is that when trading altcoins, one would have to be constantly monitoring the market as it's a very volatile one.

As for speculating with bitcoin, it may not be as risky as altcoin trading but is still very stressful.  :-\ :-[

Yes stressful if you are a day trader, but if you are into a long term investment with bitcoin I think you won't have any headache.  With regards to altcoin trading, you need to be clever.  You can participate with pump and dump coins, or  ICO scam coin. Just make sure you exit when a profit is seen.  Don't be greedy and be happy with the possible profit you will have when you exit.  Stay longer holding the coins and you will be bagholding worthless shitcoin.

You don't need to monitor the market all the time since you can set stop signals that way if the price losses  lots of value you don't lose all your money and you can use it to secure profits as well.

But if a person is doing bitcoin trade with fiat then there is no any risk involve in it as the fiat is a stable currency and bitcoin is an increasing in value currency so there is nothing which will make him lose his money but he will earn with the passage of time if he continue to trade bitcoin and fiat.

Fiat = stable
bitcoin = not involve about the unstable condition?

Even the people were exchanging his fiat to the bitcoin, it mean they put his money on the unstable condition which means the chance of loss was there. Every time is will always there.

I see you done probably burned yourself out trading bitcoin.  Ah well, better men have tried and failed.

You know dam well why this stuff is risky.  This ain't like the stock market.  These coins can and do go straight to zZero.  Or at the very least, one satoshi.  Gittin in an' out can be a problem if you sweatin' to death behinds the computer.  I tried it, didn't like it.  Better to play on them dice sites.  Least that way you git some fun outta it.

Never compare a gambling game to trading because  they are quiet different on some way even though they are the same on the risk involve of lossing out money. Yes,i admit trading is risky if you dont have enough knowledge and experience and also those fails and mistakes do really happen at first but those are good experience to learn even more on trading thats why we should really start only on small amounts.

Even they are two different extremes, some people are trading just by believing on their luck only. When they just trade only with their luck, we may sometimes need to compare gambling with trading.

Even with small capital amount your risks in trading will remain same. The risk levels of trading get diminished only when we are having strong technical analysis. In my opinion, we should not touch trading until we gain enough knowledge on technical analysis.

Yes that is right, in fact every type of trading is risky, but you have to take that risk as there is no other option, but I think you can minimize your risk in trading if you have some good knowledge about the trading and its required skills. But I believe bitcoin trading is not that risky when we consider about forex trading.

bitcoin trading is entrust the majority of investment you have to buy be some bitcoin, then you sell it back. such that is rotation of bitcoin. while the risk is you will get a reduced amount of bitcoin as a prediction in the buying and selling bitcoin.

I agree that fiat is stable, their decline in value is stable.  This is the reason why people converting their fiat currency to bitcoin.  Bitcoin may have high risk because of its high volatility.  At least they have the chance to earn in bitcoin and increase the value they are holding  than a stable deflationary currency.

No, it does not make sense. CHF had very low volatility. THB had very low volatility. Please explain to me how they were not risky.

Appeal to authority does NOT prove anything. Investopedia says awesome things about Fibonacci magic as well. I rest my case.

Volatility can't be "measured" unless your distribution is normal (but you won't find that in finance): the sample mean and volatility are useless to estimate population mean and volatility in the presence of fat tails, because you can only see the tip of the iceberg, and you have no way to guess how big is what's unseen. That is, from the sample mean and variance; you can still use MLE to get a guesstimate on the tail exponent, but the margin of error is monstrous, so you can only see that you need to be cautious, not how cautious you need to be.

Basically, standard deviation is a cute concept, but it has no significance to finance, because it applies to more restricted probability distributions than what financial returns follow. You can't even mathematically define the concept of volatility for some parameter ranges of those distributions!

Return distributions aren't stationary, either. Volatility tends to cluster (the volatility of volatility is higher than the volatility), so you're even worse off: if something big happens, chances are something huge (that your clever standard deviation said can't happen in a trillion years!) is about to be happening soon. But I'm not sure why there is still an argument about it after stuff like LTCM and the flash crash and the likes of them.

As for investing. There are some hedge funds with several decades of solid track records that pack so much volatility that you'd run out screaming. Yet they are still around, with awesome compound returns, while those low volatility funds routinely blow up after a couple years. (Yes, LTCM is again a prime example; did I mention it was led by some of the most prominent members of the financial literature you were talking about?) If volatility equals risk, this should be the other way around, correct?

Case closed.

So the risk is pretty much standard like in all investments or trades.
But I want to know is there a place when you can actually buy/sell bitcoin on time? Like for example what if the price is just right and you want to sell your bitcoin but no one buys from you, does that happen too?
Where do you trade?

trading depends on your skills,experience, market knowledge etc.You also need a bit of luck to be succeeded in trading.And you can't always gain profit from trading, sometimes market price will fall down and you will lose your capital.That's why it's risky.So,we should take that amount of btc to do trading which we can afford to lose.

In essence, that's it, but to give a more complete answer to the OP, we have to say why it is so risky. The risk lies in the fact that the BTC market does not have very high liquidity when compared to the most common currencies. This brings some instability to the market, and it is one of the main causes of high volatility. This problem requires time to be resolved, since it is not yet common to see people buying and selling things using Bitcoin.

bitcoin trading for me it is not so risky compare to gambling casino it is less risk than gambling you can get more profit in trading with less risk unlike in gambling high risk low profit.. because of ods,. and if you lose you can not recover back some of your loses.,, unlike in trading that if you lose only the price and patience is your lose..

i agree with you that trading is depend on skill and if you are expert in trading then we can be get a good profit from trading and there is many expert traders and they earning bitcoin in huge amount through trading without risks because they have a good knowledge about trading and the are expert in trading.

There are no risk free way of trading and making profit, experience and skill only gives a trader the edge to a vintage point to approach the market. let no one be deceived by all those claiming to be professional traders and making consistent profit in the market, because if they really do, they won't be looking for avenue to sell signals.

To become a successful trader, one has to go through the process of understanding what the market is saying at any point in time and not depend on others suggestions.

Didn't think this problem could be resolved because bitcoin is not owned by organizations or countries so it will always depend on market's demand and that's why the volatility will always remains there even it have enough liquidity compared to another currencies, bitcoin will be always like this.

Yes it is clear if we compare trading with gambling of course is still very risky gambling. But in bitcoin trading is still at risk. Because all kinds of trades according to my have risk and if people do not have knowledge definitely will lose. Indeed, you say true bitcoin trading is less risky than gambling, but to trade bitcoin should have good knowledge.

volatility depends on a lot of factors and not just the liquidity of the market for example the trust that people may have on a particular currency is very important, that is why when you see an economic crisis in a country you will also see a evaluation of their currency.

But, overall due to volatility people are calling bitcoin trading is so risky. But I never find like that. Because whenever I am finding my decisions are going against myself, I will just leave off that position opened and I will be waiting for the reversal of price movements, most of the time I do get profits after some waiting.

trading requires precision. we should be able to do a proper analysis. for people who can do the analysis of the trading is an easy job. we should really focus on trading system if we want to benefit.

And you are never get lost from trading bitcoin? your method may work for those people aren't need a short profit(long term investment)
It can be opposite if those people need an instant profit at the time. And all of the people must feel it be an ordinary thing.

profit and loss indeed things that have become commonplace not only in trade but also in all businesses. no name is always profitable, surely no harm though little

Correct,not only on gambling and not only on trading but all things or investments which do involve money. Losses and Gains are the most common things really happen on this kind of field. Regarding to OP those statements are very correct on which he bought bitcoin for a cheaper price and sell on a higher price is really indeed a trading and the risk involve is the moving price of bitcoin.

Yes only with proper analysis, we can make the risky bitcoin trading into profitable. Usually technical analysis for trading needs some knowledge on the different trading tools and strategies. But now a days it will be easy to learn them using many youtube videos.
If we are ready to face the challenge of bitcoin trading then I guess it will not be risky but surely will be profitable.

According to me its not risky if you have full information and knowledge about trading and the risk factor involved in trading and In simple words Bitcoin trading is a process of buying Bitcoins at low price and hold them until the price increased and then sell then at a higher price to make some big profits.

You are right for a person who have full information about trade do not lose much and do not consider it as a place of risk but if they will involve in some new coins which they do not have good knowledge about the definitely they will lose there if the coin scammed or dumped down by some opponents.

That's cute but what about the time when it doesn't happen? There's no rule that says "the price has to come back up." Ask those who held onto their Enron stocks...

Actually everything in trading was a very risky part, why? it is because you are investing money, meaning all you gonna do first is, you must be careful, observer, and research before involving yourself in trading site or exchange platform.

Trading is always risky, every time you need to pay attention on trading no one don't know when the price will increase. Before investing into trading you need to know when to sell and when to buy. Because if you don't buy at right time means you will lose. Trading cannot be motivated by only one person there are many people who do trading continuously for their profits. When you start investing in trading you need to pay lot of attention to it.

bitcoin trading is simple like as buy bitcoin with low price and then sell it with high price and if you have good knowledge about trading then you will be get a good profit and bitcoin is not risky because i am a trader of bitcoin and i never face to risk.

In fact it is possible to learn a lot with easily accessible content, such as those found on youtube, reddit and here on the bitcointalk forum. But it may be possible to learn much more by putting everything into practice, taking all necessary steps to reduce the risks.

When the price of bitcoin down so deep from at the number we have bought usually will take a long time to wait it increase until we get profit. Moreover if you trading with alternative coin because when the price of alternative coin goes down deeply like ethereum and dao some months ago based my analysis is very hard to increase again to the previous price, so we should do CUT LOSS  as soon as possible if something like that happen again to our coin.

Bitcoin trading is buying and selling bitcoin using a exchanger's site. One of the basic of trading is buy low and sell high, It is very simple and by just that saying, you can earn profits. All things are partnered with risk even though bitcoin trading has a risk of getting loss of your money. It is very risky for a trader IF he don't know how the things work and he don't have knowledge or even though basic knowledge. So if you want to less the risk in bitcoin trading make sure to study first and do not be greedy, Analyze the market first before executing any orders :P

bitcoin trading mean that buy bitcoin with low price and then sell it with high price and i think bitcoin trading is much sate and profitable than other currency so we can not says that bitcoin is risky because bitcoin is very stronger currency.

The strong currency does not need to be profitable when you are trying to trade it.
Because you may get trapped by pumps if you happen to buy at peak price levels. Still I too agree, bitcoin trading is much easier than any other trading as you got always the chances to wait for some time to get back your profit price levels.

Bitcoin trading is a place were you can multiply or grow you bitcoin/altcoins in the exchange site platform, But it is 50/50 chances to increase you coins. Therefore, 90% of being loose and only 10% only is the chances to grow our bitcoin. So better for to accept to ourselves that we are a risk taker  which means always prepared to be loose.

Trading bitcoins os also kind of investment and like any other investment it's risky. Basicly in trading you buy low and sell high or in arbitrage trading you count on the price difference but in practice there is always possibility of wrong judgement or unpredicted behaviour of bitcoin market so instead of profit you can lose your coins.

Trading is all about 99% luck and 1% skill trading is not a job. you can earn a lot from trading if you have a trading team to control the market price of the certain coin. the law of supply and demand is use in trading so better look for trading team to start trading. because if you are the only one it is too risky!

And if can we stay away from it and why not? The trading is a choice, like choice your way, if you have chosen the right way and I think you will get a right result too. and otherwise. You're true about the loss but we have a chance for stay away from it. totally depend on the person.

is common, normal, so get used in any trade

Its definitely a trading because you bought bitcoin into a cheaper price and you will sell it for a higher price so that you could able to make profits.You are right theres a risk involve on doing trading because of moving prices and you wont know on which way it will go. If you decide to be a long term trader then you will hold for how many months and years before you sell off but there are some short traders which do make profits.Those are the types of traders.

How can you make sure that trading is 99% luck and only 1% of skill that you will need because in my opinion those numbers of percentage are for gambling because in trading if you have great percentage of skill then you will win the game. You can start studying about trading from basics to complicated lessons and all of that can help you to understand the market more than you know and you can always make a conclusion which can benefit for you to earn higher amount of income ::).

In my assessment, if you are well versed or knowledgeable in trading surely it will never be risky to you. Because you are wise by doing trading. Though in the first place that bitcoin trading is the place where all the altcoins,usd$,bitcoin can be tradeable in any exchange sites.

Absolutely its not totally luck factor to trade. Yeah there is some point where luck also occurs and works.Blind assumptions requires 99% luck. But most time knowledge, skills are required to flourish in trading. Also daily information about global economy and things taking place around the world is also necessary to keep in mind while you trade.

It is very difficult to be precise in this market, especially because it is very volatile and still has limited liquidity compared to other markets, such as the stock market or the forex market. I think the important thing is to work with good odds, but striving to reduce the margins of error, of course.

to me if you are expert in trading still there is risk in trading, because even in trading your luck play an important part in trading. although your experience and our skill can also help you in trading but still we mostly depend on our luck in trading.

although luck is one of the most important factor in trading that effect the trading result. but still i will say that if you have good experience in trading then you can even change your luck, with your good experience and hard work.

Bitcoin trading gets risky because of the value of it you dont know when it goes up or down but you're right you just have to keep it until it gets higher enough it gets some risk because of the value for me you better take some tips for an expert in trading or good in trading before you do it :)

Trading is gambling: you work with odds, not certainties.

Markets are almost random. Now, a truly "efficient" market would be completely random, because prices would reflect objective value; winning and losing would be purely by chance, and nobody could make money. However, the markets are somewhat inefficient: news don't get incorporated into the price right away, and market participants are neither rational nor perfect computing machines; everybody has their own idea about the "perfect price" right now, and it is always different from the "true" price, which can never be actually known.

Trading is not about luck. It is coming from the above: if the markets are not completely random, then we may find a way to do better than luck.

Trading is about finding a mathematical edge: to win a little more (not necessarily more often!*) than lose, on average. The one who can guess what most of the other players think has exactly such an edge; if he exploits it well, he can win on the long run.    (*) in fact, winning too often is usually a sign of a left-tailed return distribution: a few huge losses hiding in your future

Crypto v.s. the rest. The difference between crypto trading and the "real" markets (such as equities, futures, forex, etc) lies in that crypto is an immature market, so there are a lot more inefficiencies left to still exploit.

Here's my post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1592595.msg17494950#msg17494950) in another thread with sources of good info where you can learn about trading in general. Trading crypto is not fundamentally different from trading anything else, though it's like the Wild Wild West: tread carefully.

I dissagree with you. Although more than 90% of trader is  trading like gambling but there still less than 10% of trader is really have good skill and earn money more than  manager in company. Keep learn so you can get a lot of money in trading.

bitcoin trading is same as the other trading, as long as its called trading then we can learned it and its not the same as gambling. to do bitcoin trading, we need to analyze the trend of the coins, from the analysis, we can predict the market, i believe that if we are have a good knowledge and experience in trading, then we can take the profit. but the risk is always there and we can not deny, because sometimes our prediction is wrong and nothing we can do except waiting for the increasing price.

to me i think only 10% trader may be treating trading as gambling, but we can see that most of the traders have good experience in trading they have spend a lot of time in learning and getting experience in trading, so if we are taking bitcoin as trading then we need to get some good experience in bitcoin trading.

I think that more than 10% trader are treating trading as gambling because as you can see they will easily getting trolled by fuders and buying altcoins without even analyzing the latest news or data but based on their feeling, it's the same as gambling indeed but there's something that make it different,if the altcoin just decreasing its price they can just holding it

How can you attribute 99% of success in traidng to luck, trading is not gambling for Christ sake. 99% of success in BTC trading is knowledge, the level of education you have will help your decision making then 1% to luck.

Bitcoin trading in my opinion is an exchange platform where we can freely trade the coins we wanna buy or sell whether bitcoins/altcoins. It is a place of the traders were they like to grow their coins in fastest way. That's all I know about it, that's its too risky.

You are right that if a Trader have a good experience then they will be never in risk and yeah you should spend maximum time to learn trading and then they can be get a good knowledge and experience about trading.

Trading is simple, when the price is low it is time to buy it
and sell when the price is high.

Bitcoin trading is one of easiest one out of all other trades like forex, altcoin. But before trading you need learn some skills about market fluctuation, in trading you need to remember one thing that is patience once you loose patience definitely it will leads to loss. In order to make profit with bitcoin buy low and sell them at higher price to reach that price it will take some up to that you have wait patiently.

That is a simple way to trade but that is the most risky way to trade because it only depend on the developers as if they will work for their coins then the coin will increase in price while if the developers will not care and will not work to increase the demand of their coin then the trader of that type will lose. The best way is to invest in only legit cons and have to adopt the strategy of short term and long term investment and have to focus on fluctuations and to earn from these ups and downs in fluctuations.

i think this sentence is good for altcoins and specially for such coins which are under develop and need more hard work form the developer, but if we speak about bitcoin i think it do not need any developer now, because bitcoin is now one of the most popular crypto currency of the world and people are joining it continuously. hope very soon majority of the people in all over the world will be starting bitcoin and bitcoin will facilitate them in a better way.

Any profession is need  skill. Of course trading would be risky if you just do it without learning to be better trader. Skilled trader will face lower risk because they can avoid to do mistake. Trading is the best source of bitcoin, trader income can be more than income of manager in company.

Quite sure, peoples who was skilled in trading have so many plan and tricks to avoid losing money on trading while in force situation to loss. For example when the price of coin which they trade suddenly goes down deeply they know to cut loss as soon as possible to reduce totally loss.

Trading is an act to buy and sell particular things, but in this case it is crypto currencies, in theory we need to buy low and sell high to gain profit, but in reality there are so many factor that can caused you to lose money, like panic sell or you bought an dead coin, so you need to have knowledge to do trading

yes knowledge, experience and trading are the key tools to success in trading. if you are going to trade a coin, you must have sound knowledge about that coin and you must also have good experience  must know some skill of trading and only they you can make money from that currency. and if you do not have any skill and experience in trading then such kind of trading is more risky that gambling.

Please, share with me your millions  ;D

Its a hugely volatile asset class and highly involved risk involved in it since just imagine people who bought @ 1100$ per btc couple of months back and prices tank after that to 800$ as well. So huge loss with huge risk.

I have to agree to what you say. However, that is only a definition of gambling and I do not think that i will help people a lot in their trading career. Most of the time traders have to spend time on studying and researching the market and improving their skills. If you do not have knowledge or information about it, you probably do not know what time is suitable to buy or to sell you things

Buy low Sell high is just really a basic thing for doing Trading and yes you could able to make money on that but it doesn't work all the way because same as ged00u said you would really need to learn more or the fundamentals of trading because trading is not easy as it sounds or to do so.Maximing your skills and knowledge will really help you out to gain decent profits.

ftp://and to if a person do not have any skill and knowledge about trading alt coin, then he should not take risk and should simple hold bitcoin for the price increase. hope that he will also get good profit from holding bitcoin in long run. but you need to be patient and strong decision taker.

Entering in trading without any knowledge or experience would be really risky and in fact there would be no difference between gambling and trading as you will be depending only on luck to make profits and luck may favor you once or twice but you cannot expect to make profits from trading depending only on luck factor.

Bitcoin trading is a location where everybody in the exchange site are buying high and low of the coins. Until they reach the price that they'e been waiting for til has been sold, But while doing trade, there is risk involve in by doing that matter.

It is just as how you trade with other online currencies.
And the only risk involved in this is that the other person who is
Trading with you should not scam you or something.
Though you can give him negative trust , but still you suffer a loss.
So it would be more preferable to trade with positive result people.
Even it might be a risk to trust  neutral trust members.

its really a simple and easy formula about trading and i think all trader is applying this formula that buy bitcoin in huge amount when bitcoin price is down and then hold it for higher price and then price of bitcoin goes to higher value  and then they sell their bitcoin with higher price and then again they trying to buy bitcoin with lower price. 

in conclusion, a new trader is definitely can't be capable of adopting the bitcoin market movement.

Still need more time to go for the new trader.
It is not easy like those people's mind.

When someone says "trading is gambling", I have no doubt that he is a gambler. Only when you have spent long times analyzing charts and studying the market behaviors to build up a consistent strategy, you can understand that trading is all about knowledge, strategy and money management.

You have a point in this matter, risk is depend on how are we going to handle it, if we do not manage properly or precisely we might encounter that risky, but if we do it correctly,  risk is nothing. Though in business risk is always a part of it. Especially in when we do trade in the exchange platform.

For newbie these words seems to very simple because newbie thinks that bitcoin trading is very easy. Off course bitcoin trading is easy but you need patience when it come bitcoin trading. Some time the price will be very high you cannot able to buy them, so you need to be very active when comes to trading.

I think this only applies for long term trading. for day trading you don't need to wait for so long time to price increase.
and you can choose other currencies also. few altcoins are very volatile and give a lot of profit to traders. give them a try.

It's sounds like this trading activity just watch the chart for a long day, i would say it's not efficient. Better to learn how analyze fundamental and technical in trading, if you are already proficient you don't need to watch price movement for a long day, just makes a limit order to buy/sell.

Yes of course the patience is necessary to manage the risk, there's no free risk in any aspects, manage it will decreased the risk or even can be a profit.

Simple definition of trading is to buy in a lower price and sell in higher price. Yes its risky if you don't have enough knowledge about how these things work. And in another way it can be risky is,you don't know when the price might fall.If the price fall from your buying pricee you can't get a profit. But this risk can be taken if you want a better amount of profit.Every business has risk.If there is no risk that cant be called business. Risk is the first step to achieve something bigger.  :D

yep that's basically what I do mostly. I don't have time most of the day to stare at the computer screen to watch how alt coin prices would move all day so I set a decent buy order first and then when that completes, same thing with selling. it doesn't matter to me if it may take days before I sell as long as it with the price that I preferred

It is the place where you'll have to use your kills in trading together how to handle your emotions, strategy, analysis, and patience. Those mentioned must be implemented during trading in the platform though its risky in some other way, but no worries its normal in trading. Just focus on what you are doing in the place of platform.

I think you also is interested in bitcoin trading. You know, bitcoin trading is an exchange of bitcoin into altcoins which you need to wait a several times to earn with it because you can only earn on it, depends on the swing of the altcoins or price movements.
Honestly, trading is very risky. It is also unpredictable job, you don't know when to earn on it because it doesn't have enough time.

Your right with what your thinking, Trading is a place where you trade bitcoin or other altcoin on which will depend on you of how will be implement in the midst of doing trade in the exchange platform. Even you already loss stay on the game continue to old it until it increase again. And risky is just a part a trading, for to become more sharpen to become a good traders.

This maybe the place where you can buy bitcoin or altcoin according to your like on which coin you think is more on swings in the trading platform, then you  do trade by simple principles of the traders at sell high, buy at low value.

I can tell you why it's risky

it's because bitcoin is an experiement

if you go to bitcoin.org it says when your trying to run a node

however if it is riskier than penny stock i have no idea

No, I guess it is not about trading bitcoins. But without doubts, bitcoin is relatively new project and still it is in experimental phase. But trading bitcoin is not dealing with this part of bitcoin and might be long term investors are just being warned about this phase of bitcoins, because their risks are more than a trader usually do take.

Buying Bitcoin in general is risky because we don't know what the future holds for Bitcoin. Also, if you buy now with the plan of selling for a profit, you don't know if the price will drop to $500 tomorrow because of the volatility.

Bitcoin trading is exchanging your bitcoin to any form of fiat like usd, jpy, etc. and vice versa. It is risky because bitcoin's price is very volatile. It can rise or drop for more than 1$ in just a single day. If you bought in a price that is too high it will be difficult for you to sell it at even in a higher price, it can take some months to sell it. A single negative news can affect the price of bitcoin which makes it to do bitcoin trading.

Actually, I see bitcoin's risk in trading as I seen the risk in forex trading. A single news can a affect one's currency. They are both risky. The problem why forex traders tend not to trade with Bitcoin is because, they can't predict what is the future if Bitcoin and since Bitcoin is a new currency that fiat currency.

Well i can say you are too pessimist. With high risk, we can also make big profit from buying bitcoin. Maybe bitcoin price will be increased to $2000 on tommorow because there is a big pump when we bought it. Who knows?

WOW seems like when OP posted price was under $700 in another words if you'd bought 10000BTC back then at $550 and $700
lets take an average price like $650 and that would be $6.5M and now after 6 months you could sell them at $1000 that would've been $3.5M pure profit now tell me more about risks involved in bitcoin trading.

yes no doubt about this that trading bitcoin is risky but in fact not only bitcoin trading but all types of trading are risky. adn we can only get profit if we will take the risk. without taking risk there is not profit in trading.

Well you are right about buying something at low price and selling it in high,
That is how trading goes but the only risky part is that you don't really know if the currency that you bought will really going to rise up.

What you mean to say here. All the people involves in trading is knows that bitcoin and its value. All the trades have possibility to fail also if you not fine with your trading skills. Always make sure using any site platform to sell or buy bitcoin and have escrow in all your trade to show your reliability and for your safety.

i think not only bitcoin trading but all types of trading are risky and there are always chance of losing money in trading. if we invest bitcoin in alt coins for making money it is called bitcoin trading, changing bitcoin in fiat or fiat in to bitcoin is called bitcoin trading.

trading is the buying and selling altcoin or with bitcoin, essentially we buy it at a low price and sold at high prices, while the risk is when you defeat such as you buy at high prices but the sudden price drops dramatically, because you are afraid the price is getting down later you sell it at that price then you will run the risk of losses, so my advice before trading it helps first learn how to read charts and lots of market
thanks hopefully help because we are at the same learning

Well, I guess not only bitcoin trading risk, but, like all forex trading, or trading altcoin also have the same risk. trading is not just selling and buying, but also look for information, and it takes a good skill in that, in order to analyze the rise and the fall in prices will occur. trading risky, because if you're wrong analyze, then the loss will come to you.

Yes any trade has a big risk, the difference is the place. Sometimes there are some places that manipulate prices so it is difficult to make a profit. So it should be able to choose a place that really could be trusted so it can get the full profit. And you're right, trade is not only to sell and buy, but it should be looking for price information and analyze it well, and skill required here.

Bitcoin trading is like what you are doing in real life. It is all about buy and sell, I know that you don't often sell. But sometimes you do it. Trading is exchanging something to something. Confusing huh? Well, Trading is simple because you just need money or bitcoin to do buy and sell stocks or other coins, that is it. Why it is risky? Well not much, It is risky if you don't have no idea on what you are doing but if you are well educated trader then there will be a smaller risk and a bigger chance of getting profit. So what is the lesson? Study first before going into trading because that is jungle with a lot of hungry animals that always want your money.

Right,it this thing needs more of study and skills too. Before entering into trading we better have know what it is real for. And what strategies we might do to be able to learn and invest on it. Trading needs to be done in most perfect time to be successful,trade when you think the time is right and you'll be able to sell it soon bigger.

Trading activity is buy bitcoin with low price and  sell on high price, it will become high risk if we can not make right prediction and the fact there are not traders who know about the movement of price, we can do hold the coins if we are wrong prediction but the problem we can not get profit/income from trading, that is why we need trading plan before investing into trading include do cut lost if we are wrong prediction.

easy , choose the bigger place to trade and then there low chance only for anyone to manipulate the market , it's happened when there is low volume and there is big player , make the market manipulatable. there is nothing free from risk , it's always there and you have to take it to get money. that's the simple principle to make money through trading.

Well that goes for any investments and i agree, the more you plan and research when you do trading, the higher the possibility of a successful trade. Of course it's not guaranteed that all trades would go as how you planned it, there would be times when you would miss the right time to buy or sell. But in general, proper study and planning can make you a rich person with trading

Sometimes, You don't even need to read a bunch of articles and books or watch a lot of tutorials to be skilled in trading. The

experience you got when you're trading will make your skills. That's why if you're interested in trading it is always a must to try it

and don't be discouraged if you lose since almost all traders undergone what you have experienced. Just to clarify, It doesn't
mean
that you don't have to study about trading, What I mean is you just have to know the basics.

Its not that too risky , Yes basicaly its buy low sell high you can get profit there but trading is not only about bitcoins the big profits is on some cryptocurrencies that is more risky to trade .Idealy trading and gambling is different ,trading is which you can earn profits by your skills and knowledge about trading .The more you learn on your mistakes and make it correct you will earn profits in time. It need time to learn you must be careful and open to change ways if you have a mistake on trade .Try to trade small amounts when you start for you to see some basic and experience the trade .

Thats right but there is another one, which is buy high then sell higher soud much crazy but it works for me,, you should have a good analysis, one mistake can make disaster,

Bitcoin trading is buy and sell bitcoin ( buy on low price and sell on high price from Buyung) to fiat money
the aim of trading is looking for profit or money on it, trading is high risk because of fast fluctuation of price,
 the price is very difficult be predicted and if we are wrong prediction will be losing money because of trading.

This is a simple way how we need to start trading with bitcoins. Simply we need to have a truster escrow in your all the trades and check the people whether they are scammers or a trusted person before you start trading with it. Localbitcoins is a best option everyone who is start a trade with the low fund.

yeah this is the main aim of trading to get profit already people think about profit when they joining the trade and i do not think that trading of bitcoin is risky because bitcoin is the strongest crypto currency and predict of bitcoin price is much more easy and there is a lot of people are sure about bitcoin price that bitcoin will be more and more increasing its value day by day because bitcoin is advance and modern currency and everyone adopting bitcoin too quickly.

I'm convinced that like many other things in this life things are not completely black or white. Apparently trading is risky due to quick and sometimes very good profit. Apart from the experience, which is valuable, the trader must learn to stand on the actual information from the intentional misinformation and rumors. Thereafter, the trading psychology of course is different for everyone and determines the way of moves on a daily basis. There are people who always follow some rules and others every time move against these because they believe in their feelings.

yes that is right that in present time the best trading is to purchase bitcoin because it is expected that the bitcoin price is going to increase more and more and very soon the price of bitcoin will reach to a high price and that is the reason that we expecting more hopes from bitcoin.i think ths trend must also be continue.

But it would be better if you have the foundation of knowledge about trading.  Experience alone is not sufficient to tell the upcoming trend of a market if you do not research  the "what is going" on your stocks or read articles on new trends and other competitors, you will probably react late.  The thorough research and article reading is for us to know the upcoming or future trend of the market.

yes good prediction can help you, but if  you are doing a wrong prediction that it can cause a big trouble and you can even lose your good amount of bitcoin and therefore you must be very much careful while predicting about bitcoin.

Yes trading bitcoin is too risky you don't know what happen next. If bitcoin can goes up or drop down thats why buying bitcoin in lower price don't buy it if the price is so high. You can lose or you can win that is the impression of bitcoin trading to me.

Buying in high price of bitcoin is not a bad idea because if you are long term trader and into long term investment then you can buy a lot of bitcoins even now where the price is high and you can earn small profits because the price now is keep on rising. If you bought your bitcoin for a high price then hodl it for a long time and that will make an assurance that you earn profit.

Bitcoin was always not on standstill position or almost not all. It can unexpectedly decrease or increase it's price for even a minute which makes it risky. Though the profit with pertains to trading bitcoins was larger than other means the loss was also if you are not successful on your trading strategy would be the same. Unless you understand fully the way the fluctuation of bitcoin prices were it much easier to handle even with risk.But still the risk is still there.

actually a lot of people are still entering in the world of bitcoin, which is increasing the demand of the bitcoin and so the price increase, on other side people are trading bitcoin so some time when they fee that the price is going to increase to so they start buying bitcoin which also cause the increase in price of bitcoin. i think in future as time pass bitcoin will become more and more stable.

The simplest explanation of trading is, its the platform where all traders are watching or monitoring the price value of each coin token together with bitcoin which they can do set a  buy wall orders and set sell wall orders depending on you.

i do not think that trading is risky because i also earning a good profit from bitcoin trading i mostly buy bitcoin with low price and then sell it with highest price and i do not face an risk.

Trading would be riskier if a trader trades a new coin since there are big possibility that a new crypto currency coin could failed or succeed which could cause volotality/huge pump for its rate. However, to avoid this risk, it's better to trade old coin which has a huge volume of btc being trade for less risk to avoid volitality.

It's less risky to trade Bitcoin and the major altcoins. You could get lucky with a new altcoin but it's also very possible that a new coin will go on the market with good volume for a few weeks and then everyone sells and the price drops to zero and it dies. That has happened to me a couple of times.

Trading market always risky. You must have good activity the whole trading market and will experiment, make right prediction, otherwise it will become high risk. Skills yourself where a very basic level, there are obvious sources of risk.

You are correct, we all know that there is two kinds of trading here such as Day trading and long term trading basis. And between the two day trade is more profitable than a long term, though they are both giving profit. only there differences was on a day trade it needs effort to monitor the movement of the coins in the market while the other one it doesn't necessary, but to wait it for the right time of years.

you are right that bitcoin trading is very much less risky because bitcoin is very much powerful currency and increasing ts price too much faster day by day and there is a lot of people just trade bitcoin.

may have much to explain about bitcoin trades. atlcoin trading is basically similar to the tradig forex, just use bitcoin as its trading tools. besides, it is so risky, because of the increase and decrease in the price of bitcoin happened so fast, and it can make a big loss in just a few hours if you're not paying attention.

yeah bitcoin trading is profitable and there is very much low risk of bitcoin trading because there is a lot of people investing their money in bitcoin without any worry.

It is risky because you are never sure what it is going to happen even if you take your time to run an analysis there is always the chance you made a mistake  or if time is wrong and a bad news comes to then you run the risk of losing money.

Its more than words to explain ,it needs more and more experience and its risk will be going anytime as you don't know how to mangae the trades in particular the time when pumpers and dunpers go in just a few seconds or minutes to for which you can make big profit or just be a bag holder or else you sold it in time when the market is going down. The volatility of the market will be so fast so a better move will be come out as we experience and make adjustments in every trade so we can lessen the risk of losing big amount in the future trades.

The problem is not with the people who sell when rises and buys when it's decreasing, but the people who do day trading sometimes may feel that bitcoin trading is risky. But many new are attracted to bitcoin, so beginners will deal tough job with bitcoin trading.

The bitcoin trading such as trade in general, differ only in goods. why risk? all trades are at risk if prices did not rise they will experience the same loss as trade bitcoin and because price of bitcoin fluctuatif will be difficult to determine the right time to buy and sell bitcoin.

Yeah , all types of trade attached with the percentage of the risk .
But still there are some better stretagy to make riskless earning with bitcoin .
Here if you will.make trading with Bitcoin/altcoins then definitely you need more patience to make Profit .
But if you will make bitcoin only day trading then you have profit ( bit small profit than in altcoin) definitely with very very less risk .
So here it is more better to make trading with day bitcoin .
Beside of such types of every trading we should have experience to trade in the wise ways .

The difficulty in buying and selling bitcoin can be ease by reading different articles or news or even the candlestick charts which can give you signals or patterns that may happen during a certain situation. The risk in trading can be also lessen because if you have a lot of knowledge and you are a trader with a lot of patience then risk will be low and the earning possibility will be high. So i think bitcoin trading is not that difficult and too much risky.

Bitcoin trading is risky because the value of bitcoin is very volatile. Bitcoin's value can rise or drop a large amount in a week or less.  In my opinion short trading of bitcoin is very risky because no can really predict the price of bitcoin tomorrow or next week. But if traded for long term i think it is profitable but won't give you quick profit.

I do see almost all the commodities are trading similar to bitcoin. Yes, there will be no surprises about the fluctuations of bitcoin markets. But one advantageous thing about bitcoin trading must be, we can be sure about up surge of bitcoin prices in near future all the times.

It means bitcoin will continuously getting appreciating to have huge price levels. I do not seeing bitcoin trading as risky  one compared to any other trading instruments.

In bitcoin world, there is no such things here for you to make profit that is risk free. Everything in this industry has a risk involved,  and bitcoin trading it is a kind of platform were bitcoin and altcoins are in the exchange, for us to have a chance to trade some of the other coins to obtain gaining bitcoin.

Short term trading is something that requires a high level of knowledge, and it will be difficult to make the right decisions if you do not have much experience. That's why I consider long term holding an option that fits best in my profile.

Good question! I don't think it is really any more risky than Bitcoin itself is.
The only issue is if the price does not go up after you buy it but I don't see that happening with bitcoin. I think it is a simple and easy way to earn a little money. Go for it!

The one basic issue is that the value of bitcoin is not "pinned" to anything obvious.  For example, if you buy Apple stock, that is connected to the well being of the Apple corporation.  With bitcoin, it's not immediately obvious what influences the price of bitcoin, which makes it less possible to figure out what can change prices.

The other issue is that bitcoin is still quite new, and there is still a lot of room for "unknown unknowns" and "growing pains".  We've been trading stocks for hundreds of years, so a lot of the failure modes are well known.  With bitcoin, we don't know what the failure modes are.

I love the term unknown unknowns which basically means we don't even know what we don't know. In a way, the Apple example and bitcoin example can be the same. They both depend on the buy demand. If people are buying the product, then it's a success. Otherwise, it's going to fail eventually. But one huge difference is that there can be someone playing with the bitcoin price. He can be holding thousands of bitcoins and just sell them for no reason. I think that's what he was talking about "it's not immediately obvious what makes the price of bitcoin move."

Hmmm, you are talking of selling when it increases, do you also know it can decrease? consider that also.  thats the risky aspect. although a lot of thing could be a factor to it

Yes, when we are capable of making right predictions, there will be no risk in any trading.

Unfortunately making accurate predictions will not be possible for all the traders unless they are good with their technical analysis. We must learn skills and gain experience before entering into bitcoin trading otherwise it will remain so risky. I guess profit in bitcoin trading is so easy but we should be enough skilled for that.

I don't think that if you are already skilled and well knowledge trader then there will be just a small risk of getting a loss because you already know how to do things properly and you already know how to manage your capital and how to do a right prediction by reading and concluding a news or updates. A skilled trader were mostly creating a decent profit because of his knowledge with a minimal risk involved.

Correct trading bitcoin by just taking advantage of the huge movements in price is very easy and has low risk, but doing day trading is very risky since you will be subject to the massive movements bitcoin can suffer in a matter of hours, movements that other currencies will need months to have.

You are right, even bitcoin is highly fluctuating, comparatively it is less risky for the traders who are ready to hold it for long. Just waiting with your position will definitely get your profits with bitcoin trading.

Only the traders who are doing day trading must be finding bitcoin trading as highly risky one. Because they cannot be sure prices to bounce back within a day but holding bitcoin is always proving as a profitable one hence the risks of bitcoin trading would be eliminated.

I think it's just as risky with the long term holders. Short term holders and long term holders share the same market. The long term holder guy still have to wait for a good price to sell his coins and not just sell whenever he wanted to. I'd say that it's just as risky because the long-term holder might need money urgently and end up selling at the dip. If the short term holder guy is unsure of his decision, he can simply hold his coins a little longer and do nothing at all.

Bitcoin is highly fluctuating but altcoins are even more risky. The volume of altcoins is much lower compared to bitcoins. Therefore, anyone that has a decent amount of bitcoin can be a whale in the altcoin market. The market manipulation and pump-and-dump scheme can be done much easier there and more people can do it.

If you will focus on the trading regarding on bitcoin you might have a hard at first because in trading there is always a risk. But if you will work hard and focus on the trading you will choose to start on it will not be hard for you to earn on it. Yes, as i have said there is a risk but if you take the risk it is worth it because as of know bitcoin price increase at its highest pick so if you will trade on bitcoin there is more earnings for you to have. So take an signature campaign too so you can have a source of income that you can make as an capital for you to trade.

Yes, agreed! in accordance  for what you said  you it is true that the only bottom line of bitcoin trading was making profit on it and no more. In addition to that, if your prediction is accurate and precise you could get high profit but if you predict wrong, you will loss everything you have. That's why others use margin trade for them to minimize their loses.

Yes, comparatively bitcoin trading is easier one. Because I was not successful with my Forex trading but I have made some decent profits from bitcoin trading.

There will be no possibilities of holding position in forex trading whereas bitcoin trading is always get me profits when I am holding my positions. That is the huge difference between bitcoin trading and other types of trading. Bitcoin trading is risky but highly profitable one also.

Forex is more complicated and very risky compare to altcoin trading, It needs a lot of time to study patterns and behavior of the price of currencies and commodities, The price variation also was very small so you will force to risk a huge multiplier so that you can have a chance to earn a decent profit. Unlike altcoin trading, You can have a high chance of gaining huge profit if you are good on predicting since altcoin price was volatile and easy to predict the waves of the trader that currently investing on a certain coin.

I agree! I've been studying how does forex works and upon following some experts signals you need to be alert all the times.

There are times that you need to follow their tips for a couple of minutes or else you will miss the chance of earning.

I will still rely with bitcoin/usd and alt coin trading, the market of this type of trading is very easy to understand.

And there are a lot of coins to choose but you don't have to have them all.

And I don't think we have any apps or bots in forex that we can use unlike in trading alt coins. That would require serious attention and you have to really make time to observe the market movement. It's simpler to do trading compared to forex

Yes, every trading type might be having some options to make profit with it. In that way bitcoin trading always profitable for long term traders. People do call bitcoin trading is risky one but same people are making good profit with bitcoin trading. We should never forget that always the highly profitable trading are having more risk within it.

In my opinion too, bitcoin trading against fiats and very few altcoins pairs are more than enough as we could not concentrate on many trading options. But I do see people are trading in both crypto currency and Forex. But doing one and doing it in professional way is the most important thing, every trader has to remember.

you are right that bitcoin trading is very much profitable for long term and i am also a trader of bitcoin and i never face to any risk and i making money from bitcoin trading continuously .

I remember to have seen some forex bots back in the day but since forex is more complex than altcoins I don’t expect them to be any good, really. Besides I think the opportunities to earn in the altcoin market are way better than anything forex could offer us.

You're Idea is right in trading it will be like gambling if you will go in blind trading where you buy an altcoin without researching and another you will only loss in bitcoin if you will sell lower and that was called panic selling because of that you will loss so don't sell with low price trading is profitable as long as you are a good trader.

That is the disadvantage of not having enough knowledge in trading because if you didn't know anything in trading then you will end up in getting losses of money and you will often do panic selling rather than holding your stocks of your altcoin or bitcoin. Trading is one of the best way to grow bitcoin but it needs knowledge and patience in understanding the market very well and it will make you a good trader.

Its is more risky if you don't know actually what happens into a market of manipulation . Perhaps when the time you start trading you should bear in mind the basics and how to do buy and sell while your emotions is given because you need to experience the common mistakes that leads to lose of a profit .You can't learn all of this as we know trading now but for beginners it needs step by step ,there is no instant skills without trying ang experience of having a trouble.

I agree that we should learn how whales manipulate the market so we can ride their waves.  This is kinda hard for a beginner but they can learn it if they dedicate their time.  This is the disadvantage of newbie trader, even with equipped basic knowledge, there is still a tendency for them to loss funds in trading.  It would be better if they can watch the market and study it first before jumping and buying anything.

Joining the hype that is created by the whales are the one of the ways to make a lot of money in trading especially if they manipulating a low price coin and transform it to a expensive one. It may take time but it is easy to notice or recognize the whales in the market, just observe the charts and both buy and sell orders to determine if there is a whale that testing the depth of the water and if they do then eventually join them to make a lot of profit.

Well I haven't seen too and most of the traders there are just trading manually and just learning with the flow of it's market.

It's more easy to trade with bitcoin and alt coin unlike with forex, many seems to fail with this type of trading because it needs alertness, not really patience.

Because once you missed out any single movement for the price increase for the profit of your certain trade.

It's going to be a time for your loss but not all the time. The market of it is really hard to predict.

I agree to your concept of trading but I for me the others are right because trading is very risky and at the same time hard. Yiu need to know all the things about trading. The way it works, the policies and even the opportunities. As I know trading become risky in a way that if you invest all of your money and then suddenly you met some people that aren't true and then you take a trade with him and at the same time you've been scammed. All of your money will lost and suddenly you will fall. For me that's is my opinion about trading is risky.

trade for get profit, if you trade in a way and the right strategy, you'll get profit, you buy goods for resale, and you sell it at a higher price when you buy it, and you will benefit. when talking about risk, I think everything we do has risk, trading risk is of loss, if you trade in a way and a wrong strategy. trade does have risks, but investment also very risky . many ways to successfully trade, by observing the graph, the graph shows when the prices are high, you should sell it. so, Trade with well, and get a lot of advantages.do not be afraid to risk, because the risk, it would make you more careful.

Trading in bitcoins is just  a pretty simple logic term.Trading is buying some thing or another coin from a low price you can get and then selling the coisn for profit big or small i doesnt matter as long as you are harvesting profit through it.Just like industry of buying and selling in the real world

It's very similar to trading in the stock market. The same principles apply but one advantage for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is that the trading fees are very low. The fees are usually much higher with stock market trading.

I would not say bitcoin trading is risky, it is just less risky than other platforms/commodities. Bitcoins has power to regain its value in less amount of time. This gives you bigger windows to trade on bitcoin's price. Yes, whatever you said buying at low and selling at high is the way to trade anything in the market. There are some complex methods as well, but they take years to understand fully. So for people like us, we trade in lower waves of market. Simple buying and selling of the bitcoin. If you want to get more out of bitcoins then for now just keep buying more bitcoins regardless of its price. This is because market research says bitcoin might reach 2000+ this year leading you booming profits. However, it carries risk so be careful about your trade volume. In anyway you can grab whatever you invested. So most probably you have little risk with bitcoin trades. :)

Risk is not new in this kind of field because not also in trading or investment has a risk because you can encounter risk in every portion of our life or journey in making profits or money. To be able to make money or get profit, you should always be a risk taker and be ready for the possible worst case scenarios that might happen.

Yes trading fees is not high like another trading in the market, that is why some people will do hourly trading with Bitcoin. And Bitcoin trading has one advantage if you wait for some time you will get good returns in present market rate. Trading means same buy things for a low price and sell it for some little margin.

yeah bitcoin trading is not risky there is a lot of people earn a big amount profit through bitcoin trading and bitcoin increasing its price everyday and bitcoin is profitable currency.

trades using coins as a means of transaction, trading is very risky because a coin is a very volatile price movements, and it is difficult to determine the market for small traders

but to me i think now it has become difficult for the big whale to manipulate the price of bitcoin and chance the market. i think now it has become difficult for them because the users of bitcoin are increasing from time to time.

First, there's no investment that is risk free, since trading is a type of investment and you are the one to decide whether you'll sell or hold a little bit longer. You need to be responsible for it. The market is fluctuating and that's why it's very risky but once you are calm with every situation that can make you worry less.

yes that is also right. I am also feeling like the market cap is increased too much so that none of the whale is able to manipulate the market price but still if some whales collectively want to manipulate the price then they may do as they will need to buy some bitcoins at lower price.

Its a risky thing because you will need to predict what is the price of the certain currency . for rxample, you bought a currency for 20$ and you didnt expect that it went down to 15$ .. You lose a 5$ because of that .. So you need to plan first before buying it because trading is so risky.

The market capt doesn't mean anything when it comes to whales being able to manipulate the price. Important to know is that the things that greatly influence the price are the exchange from where the whale wants to manipulate the market from, and the number of available (tradable) coins in the market (specifically in the exchange the whale operates from). The market cap of Bitcoin is a combined number of every coin in existence. At this point I don't even think 20% of the total number of produced coins are circulating in the market. Says enough.

The market cap is very easily manipulated because it doesn't relate to the actual liquidity of an exchange.  People on an exchange can often change the market cap of a coin with just a few Bitcoin, sometimes even less, and the price changes very dramatically.  Even Bitcoin exchanges have insanely low liquidity right now.

Yes there are whales but till date today I haven't seen a single person or a group of people manipulating the price of bitcoins. See the cap is too big for a group of people to cover, yeah if some big companies/industries collaborate and make the market swing I can understand but that wont effect the market by much too.

I would agree when the price for bitcoins was 100$ but now it is $1000+ mate and you know how difficult it is to manipulate a btc market alone.

Bitcoin exchanges have always had a very poor level of liquidity. In order for a whale to cash out a few thousand coins, depending on the exchange, he is likely able to push the price 10-20% downwards in one single dump. And then I am not even talking about the effect of stop loss orders that might get triggered, which will result in the price to tank even further. So yes, it takes little (in relative terms) to get the price to tank heavily.


I think you didn't understand anything of my post, plus you lack the understanding of how the Bitcoin market and everything around it works.

No it is not that much simple which you wrote there but in trade there need a lot of knowledge and have to learn a number of strategies and have to make yourself well informed about any coin in the market and about the price of bitcoin all the time.

You are quite right there but you forgot to mention the risks as asked, I would highlight them.
Basically when you buy bitcoins for a cheap price then you obviously waits for the higher price,now what happens sometimes is that the price just gets lower and lower, though it would climb back soon we all know and trust but a panic occurs in us because the price is getting lower.

The risk is exactly there, you usually dump your coins that time and regret later when it climbs back.

No its not that simple because if you dont have a wide knowledge in trading you cannot make money on it. Trading is not buy low and sell high even the expert sometimes can lose

For investing or trading, there is also a risk that bitcoin will not last long term and that you will lose money. So there is a risk in just putting money into bitcoin.

There's also a big risk with theses cyrypotcurrency exchanges. They could go out of business or steal our money. It happened with mtgox and a few others. So there are some built in risks with trading or even owning bitcoins or altcoins.

bitcoin trading is not difficult job for people because bitcoin price is just increase and people buy bitcoin and then sell it with more high price we know that bitcoin price is very powerful.

That's the risk in bitcoin and that's what we called "trading". It's just a normal thing that you'll do buy at lower price and sell at higher price. But if you want just to donate and don't want to earn then do the opposite thing and of course, no one wants to gain nothing but all of us wants to make profit. Out of that risk, that will give you good profit in the end.

Trade bitcoin is not as dangerous as gambling, because there you can develop a clear buying strategy at a low price and sell when the price rises. As a result, you get a good profit almost for hobby.

Every kind of trading is risky. Bitcoin has a very small market cap, so fluctuations are frequent. Bitcoin is often considered one of the most attractive currency for trading, due to high volatility. But there can be a risk of scams and fraud. So choose wisely.

Market capitalization of Bitcoin is nearly USD 20 billion (USD20.000.000.000, source: coinmarketcap.com) as of now. That is not VERY SMALL!

Highly volatile and risky yes, that's why exciting for risktakers. Though its volatility is kind of decreasing IMHO as the market grows. Scams, fraud and crime are not unknown also with FIAT currencies.  :o

Yeah, it's not the process of buy low and sell high. Everytime users won't get such chances to profit out of the buy low and sell high. Price sometimes vary little by little in the forward direction and vice versa. So it's our effort that gets us the profit on the closer price prediction.

Right... If you have enough experince in trading it will never be difficult. However if you are a newbie I suggest you to ask some tips to the veterans in trading.
Trading is risky because we know that the value of bitcoin is unstable you didn't know when the coins that you are trading are going to dump. Hence, you should watch closely the trading platform.

Ofcourse. Trading is risky if your knowledge abou it are very little or lack of knowledge. Even if you have lot of money or investment as long as you didn't know how trading is happen and what are the different strategies. You will fall and suddenlt your big amount of money will all get lost and you will fall down because of lack of knowledge. Bitcoin trading is a type of business people use to earn or grow their investment. You must know that rules and strategies to have a good earnings. :)

The method is easy just buy bitcoins at a low price and sell it for a high price. But for this, you must have enough knowledge. You must know where to buy and where to sell. In Trading market skills is important if you are poor in analysing market price then better don't enter this field it will be risky.

I agree, you can not earn a lot of money absolutely without risking anything. Just need to think carefully each step to make the loss of minimal.

Yup. Trading is a method of selling and buying if the value is increasing or decreasing. Trading is one of the main soirce of income in bitcoin. In trading you must know the different rules and strategies in able to have a better income. Yet the risky situation in trading is you will risl your money in able to earn but sometimes it may be scammed or lost unpredictable.

Yep. The idea their is good and actually describe the trading but the one you've said is the strategy in order to have more earnings. The risky situation there is that you will risk all of your money to buy and somehow you didn't sure if the seller or buyer is legit. If that's the case and the seller or buyer isn't legit your money may be scammed or taken away by others without earning by you. You must know how trading works in able to avoid this situation.

It is trading your bitcoin into goods or services. Trading into other products, it is more profitable I think. You must have good sales talk, know how to trade and know your products better to make others trade to your products. It's risky sometimes because you don't know what will gonna happen if you will earn more or having more profitable.

trading is one way to gain an advantage. the advantage gained from the selling of our coins.
we must be smart in choosing the time to sell and buy bitcoin. trading has less risk.

It's my first time hearing that kind of trade on bitcoins. how do we profit from that? Have you tried it yourself? i have heard trading goods to goods

using fiat? is it the same from that. Altcoin to bitcoin and bitcoin to fiat are the only ones i know. they are tested profitable to do online. i don't know if

that method of yours also does.

i think trading is not risky if you know about all coin.  when you buy you find her low rate and sell high rate. if any invariants it's price is low you wit some time

Many say risky because the price can change anytime and wait until the price rose from the price when buying it could be long maybe the profits not proportional to the time spent when waiting

Yes it is risky , any investment is risky because we arent sure if we were earn on it when we are in first time but you can have a less risk if you know what you do ,have an skills in trading it is not only buy low buy sell .So you must consider of the things that happen in any exchanges.

Its all about how much patience you have and how much you can control your emotions. Sometimes people panic and sell or buy with emotions that is when Trading is risky, Otherwise it is planned calculations all the time.

In the bitcoin earning platforms, Trading would be the best option for everyone. They just need a skill to make trading in right way and earn profit. If you fund around 100$ to 500$ also you can start trading and see the price chart continuously, Just aware of scammers around you thats enough to make profit from trading.

This is not exactly gambling and the principle is understandable even for a child, you buy when cheaper and sell when expensive. Nothing is difficult, you just need to catch the right moment.

op what you said is what traders called buy and hold but if we what to talk about trading is a very wide view. In trading we have buy and hold, margin trading, arbitrage trading and binary option trading. Trading is also different from gambling, in trading you have to analyze all the data using technical and fundamental issues but in gambling you only play on luck.

Technically when you are trading, you are also gambling since you're putting something at risk expecting that it will take profit on the option that you have chosen. The thing with gambling is that it is very ambiguous and not limited to playing in the casino, slots, sports betting or whatnot. Investing is a gamble—even buying bitcoins is a gamble as well. Every single thing that you do that includes risking something is gambling in its core.

Yes, buying bitcoins is also a gamble. Nobody can say what will happen with the crypto currency tomorrow or in a few years. You can lose everything or become a winner.

Bitcoin trading is a platform where you can find all altcoins where the traders buying it in the exchange to think that they can grow it through doing trade whether day trading or long term trading. It will only be risky if the traders will become neglectful and lack of knowledge in trading methods.

What Op mentioned were right and no doubt about it, even still there is risk to loss if crash happen in the future but who knows. If you buy bitcoin at $1000 and sell it at $1300, than it is $300 profit. Invest on bitcoin for long term will beneficial obviously as the value constantly rise up and all you have to do is waiting for a while. I consider trading as a plan with strategy according to the market condition which has higher chance to get profits instead put your money for gambling and rely on luck.

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Trading = any activity that involves the exchange of two commodities/assets/currencies for a potential profit.

With bitcoin trading, it's based on the same concept as Forex trading.

You aim to make a profit by buying low and selling high, or shorting bitcoin when it is too high to make a profit when markets fall.

It is risky, very risky in fact that indeed it's almost like gambling especially if you leverage your trades. But it requires skill - unlike gambling.

I think what you're saying somehow belongs to trading, you buy bitcoin when the price is low using another currency and selling it when the price is high. Almost have the same idea with investment but still its different. Trading is not as risky as gambling, we can say that they both lack of assurance when it comes to income but still gambling is riskier, because in gambling you base your profit in your luck only itself, but in trading if you have skills and eyes on statistics then you can even assure your profit every time you trade, yes they're risky but the chances of winning is different.

It's easier when you use bots or make proper plannings with the targets according to the rate every day. If the market doesn't go your way then you just have to hold for a longer time to make some profit. In case of Bitcoins you'll always make profit as the price is increasing gradually.

Trade bitcoin is the most reliable of all coins, but in any trade there are risks. You need to constantly learn and follow the market.

If you comparison the trading with gambling, than trading has less risk. Otherwise, trading is also risky. When newbie start to do trading, than in the first year, it is hard for them to earn money from trading. Experience wise, everyone could start to earn bitcoins from trading.
But i am also not agree that trading is like a gambling, only risk wise people think that both are same.   

Bitcoin trading is not easy because of so much volatility of the price so in just a matter of seconds or minute there is a chance for you to earn or to loss some amounts.

Wise people don't actually consider gambling and trading as same since they differ on their purpose and how it is being played. Trading is market based, thus a trader is getting advantage of market. Unlike in gamblimg, it is luck based where in a player's opponent is the house edge which is too risky since hous edge's probability of winning js higher than a player's probability of winning.

It may be risky a little bit but worth it to wait. Risky in some part because if you invest on the wrong coin you must say goodbye to your money, it is to lose a money there if you dont know what trading is, be sure that you know what you are entering. If you know all the aspects then expect a very big of profit when you invest to the right coin.

My strategy in trading bitcoin is very simple but risky. I wait the right time for buying and right time for selling and with this I can sure that I can get a profit. When time that  bitcoin decrease I buy a bitcoin then when ot increase I wait until the bitcoin offer a good and great value. It is risky because we need to monitor for the right time for trading with giving enough time. But experience is much better needs to success.

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I would only agreed on you that trading would only be risky if traders  don't have enough proper knowledge in doing trade. But if you know the process of doing in the trading platform, well I guess the world "RISK" I think has no space anymore. But the risk that they are talking about for what others said here, if your prediction is wrong, everything you had for sure will disappear at once in just a matter twinkle of an eye only.

Even experienced traders that have been in the game for years still risk their money. There's no such thing as no space for risk anymore because that would mean that you're sure with every single trading move that you make.

Actually, it's easy to know the whole process of trading. You can also know the strategies to earn profits. But the thing is, will the market go in accordance to what you wanted? It's all random if you ask me. There can be a huge dump coming up and no one knows about it except the dumper himself.

Knowing the whole process isn't easy for a newbie trader. It would take a lot of time for him to understand everything, specially when that certain person don't have known any professional or pro trader, that must be challenging yet can be studied easily.

I don't know if you will trade in bitcoin and it is risky, but suddenly i think its not risky if you know how to control your emoticon and patience. If you know that your in lose then don't sell it don't "Panic Sell". Pro recommend Buy Low | Sell High so wait until your happy now in your profit when will sell now

You can expect a risk in trading it doesn't mean that if you know how to handle your emotions you can skip the risk, no you can only minimize the risk involved in trading. Choosinh also a good coin makes less risk

That is right, and apart from that bitcoin trading requires a lot of skill and experience, and to do that you need to learn how the markets works so you can control how you earn your profit, whether you are for the long term or the short term, and they are different since the long term involves more risk, and also you need to experience it first before jumping into the real thing so you can limit your losses because people have a wrong idea about trading because they fail in it.

Whenever I read "bitcoin trading" in this thread I take it as BTC/USDT orders. Like in OP example. Right?

to me i think there is always risk in  trading and investment, if you have good experience in trading and investment then you can minimize the risk. it is also depending on your interest. if you are interested in trading then you can show good result in trading and if a person is interested in gambling then he can also make good profit in gambling also.

It depends on our mindset and interest .That is true trading or other investments is risk when we invest there is always a chance ithat it may lose us or earn .the fact that the rich peoples often take risk as much as they can.

It is all good until you step in the altcoins market because altcoins have been totally rubbish ( 90% of them at least ) and hence it is implausible to predict the coin's growth in coming days.

I am not saying that it's not profitable but it has very very high risks and rather better is to use a bot like GUNBOT ( provided by gunthar ) which automatically does the work for you. But that too is risky guys, unless you choose solid coins like ether and dogecoins.

Altcoin market trading is not that risky because almost of them are in a pump mode if you are keep looking at the coinmarketcap and you can see that even the price of bitcoin is high the altcoins are not letting that to beat them and they are also rising and soon i think altcoin and bitcoin market will be direct proportional and not inverse anymore.

All my coins is on orders now i have only some csh but dev is scammer .
Many times from thoose scammers is posible to have good resaults

Actually trading bitcoins for dollars is not risky rather requires enormous patience as sometimes right after you have invested the price of bitcoin's fall dramatically and you feel very anxious and feel like selling them for the current price accepting the loss.

That is where patience is needed because since years the price has increased then decreased and so on .. just need to make sure you don't shake with the shaky price changes.

Yes patience is the key for bitcoin trading or even investing because it needs a lot of time before you can see great amount of profits, most of the times in bitcoin industry it goes up and down and sometimes it goes down very hard and that is a huge opportunity for other people like long term investor that those panic sellers that don't have patience will be the losers here. So it is very important to have a lot of patience in bitcoin trading or investing.

As you said, buying for 550$ and selling for 670$, yes that is the good part of trading.

But do you think of the other part, asin the opposite of what you said, at this time buying with 550$ and there was a fall in the price of the coin you bought from 550$ to 100$ or less, and its not acting to showing if it will increase soon. Now that is the risk behind trading.

In general, in my understanding, trading in securities, as well as real currency or a crypto currency, carries a certain risk. Even though the trader could have a strong enough knowledge and understanding of the market.

Yes ,ofcourse then if trading is not having a risk if you master the trade people will go to it no matter what . Thats why some quit and some are facing the risk to learn for them to earn it will give you more advantage to the newbies .it is by generation and time .

That's pretty true. Even I also think that not only Bitcoin trading, but others you must be carrying a certain risk. As it's a long term process and you become profit at the end so trading with Bitcoin has its own advantages and risks.

Indeed and emotions sometimes get the better of us because we might not sell the coins when its being dumped finally and that is plain as holding dust, and hence emotions might force us to sell the coins.
Bitcoins trading is not dangerous but it's dangerous in it's own ways as you might buy bitcoins at 1200$ and the price drops to 600$ in few weeks and then to raise back to 1200$ it might need 6 months.

Yes risk is always there in both the trading and investment but here it is important to let all know about the type of the risks.

Basically we have two types of risks; Systematic risk & Non-systematic risk. We can only control or minimize the non-systematic risk Systematic Risk cannot be controlled or minimize. The systematic risk involves any natural or manmade disaster. With a clear idea of risk you can work better and perform great. 

This info is helpful. Thank you . Yes in every investment even we say we know how to earn it is a risk and we risk when we were starting .Risking will result in success if we are willing and learnings the techniques that we need to learn .

Risk is everywhere and even on trading and investment but we can minimize the high risk by getting a lot of information and having  a good strategy that can help you to lower the risk and higher the chance of earning money. If you lose because of risk then it will become a lesson for you that you will be wiser in the next future transactions in trading or investment.

Bitcoin not made only for trading, We can use bitcoin in almost every field of life and about trading, than bitcoin is best for trading.
Spouse if you want to do altcoin trading, than no other crypto can comparison with bitcoin. But my first time when i use bitcoin for amount transfer in a cheap rate.

Bitcoin trading is the same as trading currency as well, the different thing is only currency it seft. The risk is the same as the trade itself, loss. Such as loss money and mindset. You must have control of your money, mind before they crush everything you have. I believe demo account and more reading will open your mind about the trade itself. Have a nice day and good luck

Yes agreed, if you know what you are doing you can never do something wrong with just like in the examination if you know the right answer you are confident that your answer's is right, same thing in trading, if you know the coin you are trading it, no doubt for you that your going to have profit in a long run.

I think there is a risk of losing trades both bitcoin and forex trading if we are less careful in analyzing market movements it would be very good to start trading from demo accounts to increase trading knowledge and understanding.

Bitcoin is like any other investment.  It has a risk profile of price fluctuations.  Bitcoin not being tied to any government or specific economic zone is therefore more risky as it is not backed by any intrinsic value and it's price can fluctuate wildly and very quickly.  Never invest funds you cannot afford to lose as there are no guarantees that the price will go up or even stay the same and you could lose much of your investment.

We knows that bitcoin can be used in many places but here the talk is about trading and risk factors only. Please keep note that trading is one of the best option to make bitcoin without big risks. Always you need to moniter the price chart without a gap and set the trade for the trade in your account in exchanges. Then you can simply make bitcoin easily.

That's not correct, trading is risky because you are gambling with your money, no one can predict the price and although you are making a study it will not guarantee you success, you still have the risk of losing. Risk depends on who manage the trading, if such person lacks knowledge then it means bigger risk and the best thing you can do is just to minimize but not to eliminate risk.

Minimize the risk is possible only when there is experience and knowledge. Beginners often do not have this, and therefore they lose a lot. Before you start trading large amounts, you need to train on small amounts

Yes, trade is like gambling, because no one can give an accurate forecast even with a huge amount of experience and knowledge. You can only trade for money that is not terrible to lose.

I don't agree that bitcoin is like gambling, yes they both needs strategy and of course you have to take the risk. But, it is more risky in gambling, in trading you can always forecast through its history, although it is not that accurate but at least you have the basis whether you will trade your money or not.

Crypto currency trading is always high risk.I think trading is one kind of gambling.its personal opinion may be different for many people.