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Title: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: socks435 on August 05, 2016, 06:31:34 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: MyBitcoinPorn on August 05, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?


They can't move them or sell them.

Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Holliday on August 05, 2016, 06:52:47 PM
They can't move them or sell them.

Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.

Exactly! Just like all those other dirty coins.

RankNameSeverity (January 2014 BTC)USD Equivalent
12014 Mt. Gox Collapse (#post_t2014_mtgox)850000.000BTC700258171 $
2Silk Road Seizure (#post_silk_road_seizure)32716.283BTC26867560 $
3Sheep Marketplace Incident (#post_sheep_marketplace_incident)4978.276BTC4070923 $
4Silk Road 2 Incident (#post_silk_road_2_incident)4400.000BTC3624866 $
5GBL Scam (#post_gbl_scam)4185.734BTC3437446 $
6MintPal Incident (#post_mintpal_incident)3894.492BTC3208412 $
7Bitcoin Savings and Trust (#post_bitcoin_savings_and_trust)3700.408BTC2983473 $
8PicoStocks Hack (#post_picostocks_hack)3679.520BTC3009397 $
9MyBitcoin Theft (#post_mybitcoin_theft)1395.691BTC1072570 $
10CryptoRush Theft (#post_cryptorush_theft)950.000BTC782641 $
11Flexcoin Theft (#post_flexcoin_theft)896.104BTC738240 $
12BIPS Hack (#post_bips_hack)808.140BTC660959 $
13Inputs.io Hack (#post_inputs_io_hack)780.069BTC640615 $
14James Howells Loss (#post_james_howells_loss)763.965BTC627659 $
15Allinvain Theft (#post_allinvain_theft)580.983BTC445688 $
16BASIC-MINING (#post_basic_mining)405.445BTC332963 $
17July 2012 Bitcoinica Theft (#post_july_2012_bitcoinica_theft)398.757BTC315133 $
18Bitfloor Theft (#post_bitfloor_theft)338.861BTC273209 $
19Bitcash.cz Hack (#post_bitcashcz_hack)302.517BTC247422 $
20Bitomat.pl Loss (#post_bitomatpl_loss)301.332BTC231570 $
21Bitcoin Rain (#post_bitcoin_rain)283.696BTC231440 $
22Linode Hacks (#post_linode_hacks)281.818BTC223278 $
23May 2012 Bitcoinica Hack (#post_may_2012_bitcoinica_hack)240.993BTC191638 $
24ZigGap (#post_ziggap)240.128BTC195490 $
25Vircurex Theft (#post_vircurex_theft)199.938BTC163351 $
26Tony Silk Road Scam (#post_tony_silk_road_scam)184.356BTC146944 $
27Stefan Thomas Loss (#post_stefan_thomas_loss)162.675BTC124793 $
28Just Dice Incident (#post_justdice_incident)132.436BTC108807 $
29Cdecker Theft (#post_cdecker_theft)129.745BTC104607 $
30Ozcoin Theft (#post_ozcoin_theft)129.713BTC105600 $
31Mass MyBitcoin Thefts (#post_mass_mybitcoin_thefts)93.409BTC71656 $
32BTCGuild Incident (#post_btcguild_incident)88.939BTC72556 $
332013 Fork (#post_t2013_fork)68.094BTC55551 $
34Bit LC Theft (#post_bitlc_theft)63.434BTC51480 $
35June 2011 Mt. Gox Incident (#post_june_2011_mt_gox_incident)61.428BTC47123 $
36Kronos Hack (#post_kronos_hack)53.633BTC42859 $
372012 Trojan (#post_trojan_2012)49.054BTC39146 $
38BTC-E Hack (#post_btce_hack)44.860BTC35452 $
39Mooncoin Theft (#post_mooncoin_theft)28.831BTC22346 $
40Bitcoin7 Incident (#post_bitcoin7_incident)20.703BTC15980 $
41Ubitex Scam (#post_ubitex_scam)20.189BTC15515 $
42Betcoin Theft (#post_betcoin_theft)19.490BTC15534 $
43Bitcoin Syndicate Theft (#post_bitcoin_syndicate_theft)18.469BTC14595 $
442012 50BTC Theft (#post_t2012_50_btc_theft)16.678BTC13437 $
45Andrew Nollan Scam (#post_andrew_nollan_scam)13.961BTC10895 $
46October 2011 Mt. Gox Loss (#post_october_2011_mt_gox_loss)10.804BTC8340 $
47Bitscalper Scam (#post_bitscalper_scam)8.156BTC6461 $
48Stone Man Loss (#post_stone_man_loss)0.758BTC544 $


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: ivanst776 on August 05, 2016, 07:04:55 PM
They can't move them or sell them.

Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.

If they don't sell them on exchange or can't then they will trader with individuals for physical stuff or digital and/or maybe they can invest in others coins like on the earlier stages (ICO), I mean they can spend them as there are many ways to do that.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: tyz on August 05, 2016, 07:30:31 PM
Probably, they can not sell them on (major) exchanges but there is still the option to bring small parts of the stolen coins into a bit mixer and sell them on the Darknet or exchange them against other coins and vanish the traces to the theft account.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: virtualkeybuyer on August 05, 2016, 07:39:47 PM
I think bitfinex will know that to which address(wallet) there bitcoins gone, they should have to publish that address and have to inform all other exchange so that no one will try to get bitcoins from that address, with that people will then consider the hacked bitcoins as dying bitcoins and will not try to hack again.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Senor.Bla on August 05, 2016, 08:20:11 PM
I think bitfinex will know that to which address(wallet) there bitcoins gone, they should have to publish that address and have to inform all other exchange so that no one will try to get bitcoins from that address, with that people will then consider the hacked bitcoins as dying bitcoins and will not try to hack again.

how does that work? if i am sending bitcoin to an exchange or somewhere else there is not possibility to just don't accept the transaction. at least not to my knowledge.
only the mines could refuse a transaction and i imagine that far more difficult to agree on.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: realm on August 05, 2016, 09:36:20 PM
I don't believe the stolen btcs have hit the market yet. The drop is probably due to the news and the fear of some whales expecting a big dump. Regarding the hacker, is it possible that he can make a deal with some mixers in order to get his btcs nice and clean?


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: marky89 on August 05, 2016, 10:58:40 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

I don't think the coins have moved since they initially left Bitfinex's control. I haven't actually researched the addresses in question, but that has been what Zane has been saying for the last couple days.

The hacker would be a fool to move those coins to an exchange. Best bet is to at the very least mix them before using them. In any case, he would be wise to do nothing for a while.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: maydna on August 06, 2016, 12:35:03 AM
i think not yet to sold in market exchange but who know that bitcoin have been sold in Darknet? in Darknet, maybe they only sell in half of all bitcoins. for other options is they hold all bitcoin first, then after the situation is good, they sold it slowly. just my 2 cents and my opinion.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: gentlemand on August 06, 2016, 12:52:25 AM
I'd be very curious to know how many people managed to successfully sell large amounts of stolen coins in the past. There are so bloody many of them that they can't all be sitting there waiting for a rainy day.

I know the Sheep Marketplace guy ended up with money to throw around as the stupid bitch started buying houses all over the joint.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: plpbtc1526 on August 06, 2016, 02:22:26 AM
They cant trade it on exchange site but they can sell it individually. Some are using black market to sell their dirty bitcoin. They can spend it themselves. There are still ways to spend or sell their stolen bitcoins.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: rphk on August 06, 2016, 03:43:41 AM
may be bitfinex can track their ip  and wallet info and inform other exchanges block it . hackers cant spend their money so easily ,i believe it is large amount . or all the sites who aware about bitfinex incident  can be cautious when they receiving large amount of bitcoins to their sites.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Lionidas on August 06, 2016, 03:49:05 AM
No. They haven't sold them yet. Why would they unless they are wanting to get caught.
It is hot time now for them to look for large volume of coins being transferred out of an address.
They are watching closely now for these tx to happen.  :-[


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Tacalt on August 06, 2016, 03:58:19 AM
look I don't know about this particular hack, and I'm just reading about it now as I get reacquainted with alt coins,  however I still have common sense. Every time I hear about a big hack people watch intensely at the block chain and wait to see a huge transaction, like we all don't know the truth which is anyone smart enough to steal these coins is also smart enough to separate them and re sell them in small increments. its probably a very long process that begins the minute your coins are stolen.  :'(


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pooya87 on August 06, 2016, 04:10:09 AM
it is not easy selling these stolen coins but i think the hacker has been trying to launder 1000BTC of it by disguising it as a giveaway and claim the 1000BTC with his alt account and then claim he has gained these coins fairly from a giveaway! a stupid idea i should add.

p.s. do we know any of the addresses involved in the 120KBTC theft?


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: densuj on August 06, 2016, 04:15:26 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
In my opinion bitcoin still not sold, because if bitcoin has sold price of bitcoin will going down as deep. And price of bitcoin today is not too going down, it is just fluctuating of price and it is normal.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: posternat on August 06, 2016, 04:38:53 AM
i think not yet to sold in market exchange but who know that bitcoin have been sold in Darknet? in Darknet, maybe they only sell in half of all bitcoins. for other options is they hold all bitcoin first, then after the situation is good, they sold it slowly. just my 2 cents and my opinion.

Well once you have so many bitcoins you have so many options. You can distribute them to you own 100 wallets and no one will be able to track who hacked the bitfinex or who is using the stolen bitcoins.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: JITENDERPAR3 on August 06, 2016, 05:19:42 AM

i think No, because the amount that had been stolen by the theft from bitfinex is not small . its amount will definetly change the price of the bitcoins .
if the btc had been sold then there will be sharply fall in the bitcoin amount will take place but there is nothing like that instead of small change in rate due to change in the value of doller .


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: doflamingo on August 06, 2016, 05:27:49 AM
I think they will buy some thing with bitcoin and sell them for the money or they invest to some invest sites


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: ASHLIUSZ on August 06, 2016, 05:38:43 AM
i think not yet to sold in market exchange but who know that bitcoin have been sold in Darknet? in Darknet, maybe they only sell in half of all bitcoins. for other options is they hold all bitcoin first, then after the situation is good, they sold it slowly. just my 2 cents and my opinion.

Well once you have so many bitcoins you have so many options. You can distribute them to you own 100 wallets and no one will be able to track who hacked the bitfinex or who is using the stolen bitcoins.

the price went down after the hack and recovered  back and now just fluctuating, it seems that the bitcoins are not sold. i think after this problem solves the hacker may sell slowly, also there wasn't a panic sell that continued to lower the price of BTC which is good.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: 1Referee on August 06, 2016, 05:46:50 AM
No. It will probably take years before they start spending their coins as they need to mix their coins first. Or they must be YOLO hackers where they don't give a damn about their wallet being followed, which I don't think is the case. They will mix their coins in a slow but effective manner first. After that they will start spreading their coins into possibly hundreds of wallets.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Dudeperfect on August 06, 2016, 05:47:46 AM
I don’t think those bitcoins are sold yet but there is possibility of critical diversion of those coins in large number of cold storage wallets. The price fall was due to panic selling effect (that we have experienced many times before this one). The guys who hacked those bitcoins still have control on those coins due to cold storage but it won’t affect much in price directly, what we experienced was indirect effect of the incident in which some people scared and sold their bitcoins.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Mauser on August 06, 2016, 05:53:15 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?


They can't move them or sell them.

Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.

How do you know this? What would be the reason for hackers to get bicoins when they can't use them? Also the Bitcoin Price dropped dramatically in the last days. How is this related to the bitfinex hack if not through more sellers trying to dump their Bitcoins. In my opinion there will always be a buyer if the Price is low enough. Even from illegal activities.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: CoinBreader on August 06, 2016, 06:46:48 AM

i think No, because the amount that had been stolen by the theft from bitfinex is not small . its amount will definetly change the price of the bitcoins .
if the btc had been sold then there will be sharply fall in the bitcoin amount will take place but there is nothing like that instead of small change in rate due to change in the value of doller .

no it is not small at all you are right on that! but they can use a mixer, trade some on darknet, some other placed on ICOs, even rent mining rigs (not talking about cloud mining), buy some other good using btc, and when the times come to cash out, they will selling small amounts, there is a million ways to get away with that but also there is a million ways to get you, but less likely the 2nd story will not happen !


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: xJuturna on August 06, 2016, 07:01:12 AM
He / She will likely mix the coins and use them on the darknet but not before holding on to them for a pretty good amount of time. I'd imagine a person capable of a hack like that would know better than to do anything with those coins anytime soon


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: doublemore on August 06, 2016, 07:46:02 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

If the hacker has any brain he should just deal with finex and take a decent chunk this way.

1.) He avoids man hunt, what is that worth ?
2.) He will struggle to sell these coins on the market and at full price
3.) Its the right thing to do he gets to feel good.

Take 30% please hacker and return rest. Thank you.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Senor.Bla on August 06, 2016, 07:52:40 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

If the hacker has any brain he should just deal with finex and take a decent chunk this way.

1.) He avoids man hunt, what is that worth ?
2.) He will struggle to sell these coins on the market and at full price
3.) Its the right thing to do he gets to feel good.

Take 30% please hacker and return rest. Thank you.

how often did this happen before? I mean a deal between the hacker and the hacked.
1. maybe he fells he is safe.
2. how do you know? maybe he does not want to sell, because he was paid by someone (i do not know, but big banks or some state might have some incentive to do that) to just hack the exchange. 
3. i am quit sure he does not give any thought to that.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: doublemore on August 06, 2016, 08:01:23 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

If the hacker has any brain he should just deal with finex and take a decent chunk this way.

1.) He avoids man hunt, what is that worth ?
2.) He will struggle to sell these coins on the market and at full price
3.) Its the right thing to do he gets to feel good.

Take 30% please hacker and return rest. Thank you.

how often did this happen before? I mean a deal between the hacker and the hacked.
1. maybe he fells he is safe.
2. how do you know? maybe he does not want to sell, because he was paid by someone (i do not know, but big banks or some state might have some incentive to do that) to just hack the exchange. 
3. i am quit sure he does not give any thought to that.

He/she/they are going to have a large man hunt since bitfinex said they will be releasing details of hack. Depends on who they are but there is a chance they dont feel safe. Hackers have done deals before, but yeah if its to do with a bank its diffferent.  It depends who who they are if they care.



Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Senor.Bla on August 06, 2016, 08:29:29 AM
He/she/they are going to have a large man hunt since bitfinex said they will be releasing details of hack. Depends on who they are but there is a chance they dont feel safe. Hackers have done deals before, but yeah if its to do with a bank its diffferent.  It depends who who they are if they care.

If i want to make a hack this big (and by the way i never did or will, because i am to dumb and afraid) i better make sure, that i just do it if i can do it in a way that i will fell safe afterwards.
also i better have a plan b, plan c and plan d. just in case something goes wrong.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: doublemore on August 06, 2016, 08:42:42 AM
He/she/they are going to have a large man hunt since bitfinex said they will be releasing details of hack. Depends on who they are but there is a chance they dont feel safe. Hackers have done deals before, but yeah if its to do with a bank its diffferent.  It depends who who they are if they care.

If i want to make a hack this big (and by the way i never did or will, because i am to dumb and afraid) i better make sure, that i just do it if i can do it in a way that i will fell safe afterwards.
also i better have a plan b, plan c and plan d. just in case something goes wrong.

Yeah but thats in an ideal scenario, there could be good chance the hacker is a previous finex customer and got better at hacking over time.  So if finex has a 10k customer list they could start working through and narrowing things down, who knows.  If they show the public all details also.  Its all speculation.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: btvGainer on August 06, 2016, 08:51:12 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
I think hackers wouldn't take risk of keep their coins long and letting them traceable. They will and are selling coins in different market to get rid of them and clean their footprints.This could be the reason for bitcoin price fall


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Senor.Bla on August 06, 2016, 08:51:56 AM
He/she/they are going to have a large man hunt since bitfinex said they will be releasing details of hack. Depends on who they are but there is a chance they dont feel safe. Hackers have done deals before, but yeah if its to do with a bank its diffferent.  It depends who who they are if they care.

If i want to make a hack this big (and by the way i never did or will, because i am to dumb and afraid) i better make sure, that i just do it if i can do it in a way that i will fell safe afterwards.
also i better have a plan b, plan c and plan d. just in case something goes wrong.

Yeah but thats in an ideal scenario, there could be good chance the hacker is a previous finex customer and got better at hacking over time.  So if finex has a 10k customer list they could start working through and narrowing things down, who knows.  If they show the public all details also.  Its all speculation.

maybe he is a previous customer but i do not think bitfinex will check all the customers good enough to find something out. if the hacker did not make any big mistakes. also bitfinex should be careful what details they give to the public. certainly they will not give all their customer informations out.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Velkro on August 06, 2016, 08:54:59 AM
it is not easy selling these stolen coins but i think the hacker has been trying to launder 1000BTC of it by disguising it as a giveaway and claim the 1000BTC with his alt account and then claim he has gained these coins fairly from a giveaway! a stupid idea i should add.
Yup, pretty bad idea to hide his intentions. Often hackers from stories i red are not so smart after all. They often got lucky to find one loophole in security system and thats it, other than that they are very average personas.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: BTC Loading on August 06, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

the will mix it with a dark-web bitcoin mixer and divide the money into tiny amount and send it to different bitcoin address, the may make little donation to some charity then after that the will send all to one address and safe in an offline bitcoin wallet maybe after 3 month interval the will exchange through a P2P bitcoin Exchanger


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: calkob on August 06, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
i doubt they have sold them yet they are prob siting at some address waiting for the heat to cool off.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: clickerz on August 06, 2016, 11:30:04 AM
I think the hacker sold it by chunks or say in dark web or leave some stash on his wallet. But, bitfinnex can trace the perpetrators? Can they trace it on blockchain? According to some reports they are going online,hope this is a positive and welcome news. Many lost their btc's.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: gentlemand on August 06, 2016, 11:35:39 AM
it is not easy selling these stolen coins but i think the hacker has been trying to launder 1000BTC of it by disguising it as a giveaway and claim the 1000BTC with his alt account and then claim he has gained these coins fairly from a giveaway! a stupid idea i should add.

Nah. I think this has been debunked. The coins in that thread originated from another thief named Tradefortress who stole about 4000 coins a few years when he was running a wallet service and the mentally infirm thought it would be a great idea to deposit coins with an anonymous person in a far off land.

I've no idea what the motivation for that thread is. And you don't launder much by giving it away.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 06, 2016, 11:38:18 AM
it is not easy selling these stolen coins but i think the hacker has been trying to launder 1000BTC of it by disguising it as a giveaway and claim the 1000BTC with his alt account and then claim he has gained these coins fairly from a giveaway! a stupid idea i should add.
Yup, pretty bad idea to hide his intentions. Often hackers from stories i red are not so smart after all. They often got lucky to find one loophole in security system and thats it, other than that they are very average personas.

haha, exactly when authorities raided his home because he has received 1000BTC giveaway and took him to their interrogation room he is going to spill his guts out for them and tell them he was trying to stupidly launder the 1000BTC :D


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: mobnepal on August 06, 2016, 11:51:11 AM
 I don't think they have sold all those hacked bitcoins because it is large sum of bitcoin and it can make a very large dump than the recent 20% dump. However bitfinex haven't relased any bitcoin address of hacker where all those bitcoin went to so i guess nobody in bitcoin community can give exact answer. And after finex reveal that address most of the exchanger will just back list that address and all will be tracking that address to see any significant movement in it.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: talkbitcoin on August 06, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
they can not and will not sell that much bitcoin in one day, and certainly the hacker will never sell it on an exchange site like the normal people.

they may even never sell it publicly or even not on blockchain. they can sell the private keys offline and change it face to face so we never know it was ever sold!


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: xdrpx on August 06, 2016, 12:08:19 PM
Most larger exchanges may trace the origin of those funds and blacklist them from exchanging to fiat. Some smaller local exchanges can still happen offline or via other smaller online exchanges that don't bother about tracing stolen coins, may enabled them to sell. But I feel it's going to have to a slow process for them considering it is such a large amount.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: doublemore on August 06, 2016, 12:14:04 PM
He/she/they are going to have a large man hunt since bitfinex said they will be releasing details of hack. Depends on who they are but there is a chance they dont feel safe. Hackers have done deals before, but yeah if its to do with a bank its diffferent.  It depends who who they are if they care.

If i want to make a hack this big (and by the way i never did or will, because i am to dumb and afraid) i better make sure, that i just do it if i can do it in a way that i will fell safe afterwards.
also i better have a plan b, plan c and plan d. just in case something goes wrong.

Yeah but thats in an ideal scenario, there could be good chance the hacker is a previous finex customer and got better at hacking over time.  So if finex has a 10k customer list they could start working through and narrowing things down, who knows.  If they show the public all details also.  Its all speculation.

maybe he is a previous customer but i do not think bitfinex will check all the customers good enough to find something out. if the hacker did not make any big mistakes. also bitfinex should be careful what details they give to the public. certainly they will not give all their customer informations out.

They wont give customer details out no but they will give all other details.  I think they will be checking through customers as there is 70 mil missing its worth the time, many of these customers they can narrow it down.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pereira4 on August 06, 2016, 02:24:12 PM
They can't move them or sell them.

Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.

Exactly! Just like all those other dirty coins.

RankNameSeverity (January 2014 BTC)USD Equivalent
12014 Mt. Gox Collapse (#post_t2014_mtgox)850000.000BTC700258171 $
2Silk Road Seizure (#post_silk_road_seizure)32716.283BTC26867560 $
3Sheep Marketplace Incident (#post_sheep_marketplace_incident)4978.276BTC4070923 $
4Silk Road 2 Incident (#post_silk_road_2_incident)4400.000BTC3624866 $
5GBL Scam (#post_gbl_scam)4185.734BTC3437446 $
6MintPal Incident (#post_mintpal_incident)3894.492BTC3208412 $
7Bitcoin Savings and Trust (#post_bitcoin_savings_and_trust)3700.408BTC2983473 $
8PicoStocks Hack (#post_picostocks_hack)3679.520BTC3009397 $
9MyBitcoin Theft (#post_mybitcoin_theft)1395.691BTC1072570 $
10CryptoRush Theft (#post_cryptorush_theft)950.000BTC782641 $
11Flexcoin Theft (#post_flexcoin_theft)896.104BTC738240 $
12BIPS Hack (#post_bips_hack)808.140BTC660959 $
13Inputs.io Hack (#post_inputs_io_hack)780.069BTC640615 $
14James Howells Loss (#post_james_howells_loss)763.965BTC627659 $
15Allinvain Theft (#post_allinvain_theft)580.983BTC445688 $
16BASIC-MINING (#post_basic_mining)405.445BTC332963 $
17July 2012 Bitcoinica Theft (#post_july_2012_bitcoinica_theft)398.757BTC315133 $
18Bitfloor Theft (#post_bitfloor_theft)338.861BTC273209 $
19Bitcash.cz Hack (#post_bitcashcz_hack)302.517BTC247422 $
20Bitomat.pl Loss (#post_bitomatpl_loss)301.332BTC231570 $
21Bitcoin Rain (#post_bitcoin_rain)283.696BTC231440 $
22Linode Hacks (#post_linode_hacks)281.818BTC223278 $
23May 2012 Bitcoinica Hack (#post_may_2012_bitcoinica_hack)240.993BTC191638 $
24ZigGap (#post_ziggap)240.128BTC195490 $
25Vircurex Theft (#post_vircurex_theft)199.938BTC163351 $
26Tony Silk Road Scam (#post_tony_silk_road_scam)184.356BTC146944 $
27Stefan Thomas Loss (#post_stefan_thomas_loss)162.675BTC124793 $
28Just Dice Incident (#post_justdice_incident)132.436BTC108807 $
29Cdecker Theft (#post_cdecker_theft)129.745BTC104607 $
30Ozcoin Theft (#post_ozcoin_theft)129.713BTC105600 $
31Mass MyBitcoin Thefts (#post_mass_mybitcoin_thefts)93.409BTC71656 $
32BTCGuild Incident (#post_btcguild_incident)88.939BTC72556 $
332013 Fork (#post_t2013_fork)68.094BTC55551 $
34Bit LC Theft (#post_bitlc_theft)63.434BTC51480 $
35June 2011 Mt. Gox Incident (#post_june_2011_mt_gox_incident)61.428BTC47123 $
36Kronos Hack (#post_kronos_hack)53.633BTC42859 $
372012 Trojan (#post_trojan_2012)49.054BTC39146 $
38BTC-E Hack (#post_btce_hack)44.860BTC35452 $
39Mooncoin Theft (#post_mooncoin_theft)28.831BTC22346 $
40Bitcoin7 Incident (#post_bitcoin7_incident)20.703BTC15980 $
41Ubitex Scam (#post_ubitex_scam)20.189BTC15515 $
42Betcoin Theft (#post_betcoin_theft)19.490BTC15534 $
43Bitcoin Syndicate Theft (#post_bitcoin_syndicate_theft)18.469BTC14595 $
442012 50BTC Theft (#post_t2012_50_btc_theft)16.678BTC13437 $
45Andrew Nollan Scam (#post_andrew_nollan_scam)13.961BTC10895 $
46October 2011 Mt. Gox Loss (#post_october_2011_mt_gox_loss)10.804BTC8340 $
47Bitscalper Scam (#post_bitscalper_scam)8.156BTC6461 $
48Stone Man Loss (#post_stone_man_loss)0.758BTC544 $

Lol the "Stone man loss" thing is a very small amount. That would be impossible to find out once run through a mixer then sold. No problem in doing this with any amount to be honest, you would need just a lot of time and pay fees to mixers. As far as I know mixers don't care if the coins they receive are from a thieft.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: danherbias07 on August 06, 2016, 02:34:41 PM
They can't move them or sell them.

Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.

Exactly! Just like all those other dirty coins.

RankNameSeverity (January 2014 BTC)USD Equivalent
12014 Mt. Gox Collapse (#post_t2014_mtgox)850000.000BTC700258171 $
2Silk Road Seizure (#post_silk_road_seizure)32716.283BTC26867560 $
3Sheep Marketplace Incident (#post_sheep_marketplace_incident)4978.276BTC4070923 $
4Silk Road 2 Incident (#post_silk_road_2_incident)4400.000BTC3624866 $
5GBL Scam (#post_gbl_scam)4185.734BTC3437446 $
6MintPal Incident (#post_mintpal_incident)3894.492BTC3208412 $
7Bitcoin Savings and Trust (#post_bitcoin_savings_and_trust)3700.408BTC2983473 $
8PicoStocks Hack (#post_picostocks_hack)3679.520BTC3009397 $
9MyBitcoin Theft (#post_mybitcoin_theft)1395.691BTC1072570 $
10CryptoRush Theft (#post_cryptorush_theft)950.000BTC782641 $
11Flexcoin Theft (#post_flexcoin_theft)896.104BTC738240 $
12BIPS Hack (#post_bips_hack)808.140BTC660959 $
13Inputs.io Hack (#post_inputs_io_hack)780.069BTC640615 $
14James Howells Loss (#post_james_howells_loss)763.965BTC627659 $
15Allinvain Theft (#post_allinvain_theft)580.983BTC445688 $
16BASIC-MINING (#post_basic_mining)405.445BTC332963 $
17July 2012 Bitcoinica Theft (#post_july_2012_bitcoinica_theft)398.757BTC315133 $
18Bitfloor Theft (#post_bitfloor_theft)338.861BTC273209 $
19Bitcash.cz Hack (#post_bitcashcz_hack)302.517BTC247422 $
20Bitomat.pl Loss (#post_bitomatpl_loss)301.332BTC231570 $
21Bitcoin Rain (#post_bitcoin_rain)283.696BTC231440 $
22Linode Hacks (#post_linode_hacks)281.818BTC223278 $
23May 2012 Bitcoinica Hack (#post_may_2012_bitcoinica_hack)240.993BTC191638 $
24ZigGap (#post_ziggap)240.128BTC195490 $
25Vircurex Theft (#post_vircurex_theft)199.938BTC163351 $
26Tony Silk Road Scam (#post_tony_silk_road_scam)184.356BTC146944 $
27Stefan Thomas Loss (#post_stefan_thomas_loss)162.675BTC124793 $
28Just Dice Incident (#post_justdice_incident)132.436BTC108807 $
29Cdecker Theft (#post_cdecker_theft)129.745BTC104607 $
30Ozcoin Theft (#post_ozcoin_theft)129.713BTC105600 $
31Mass MyBitcoin Thefts (#post_mass_mybitcoin_thefts)93.409BTC71656 $
32BTCGuild Incident (#post_btcguild_incident)88.939BTC72556 $
332013 Fork (#post_t2013_fork)68.094BTC55551 $
34Bit LC Theft (#post_bitlc_theft)63.434BTC51480 $
35June 2011 Mt. Gox Incident (#post_june_2011_mt_gox_incident)61.428BTC47123 $
36Kronos Hack (#post_kronos_hack)53.633BTC42859 $
372012 Trojan (#post_trojan_2012)49.054BTC39146 $
38BTC-E Hack (#post_btce_hack)44.860BTC35452 $
39Mooncoin Theft (#post_mooncoin_theft)28.831BTC22346 $
40Bitcoin7 Incident (#post_bitcoin7_incident)20.703BTC15980 $
41Ubitex Scam (#post_ubitex_scam)20.189BTC15515 $
42Betcoin Theft (#post_betcoin_theft)19.490BTC15534 $
43Bitcoin Syndicate Theft (#post_bitcoin_syndicate_theft)18.469BTC14595 $
442012 50BTC Theft (#post_t2012_50_btc_theft)16.678BTC13437 $
45Andrew Nollan Scam (#post_andrew_nollan_scam)13.961BTC10895 $
46October 2011 Mt. Gox Loss (#post_october_2011_mt_gox_loss)10.804BTC8340 $
47Bitscalper Scam (#post_bitscalper_scam)8.156BTC6461 $
48Stone Man Loss (#post_stone_man_loss)0.758BTC544 $

Where did you get this list? I am just curious and want to read the talk there. Maybe I can get somme information if an exchange site is near the scamming state.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: serjent05 on August 06, 2016, 03:51:46 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

Probably portion of it is sold already but majority the coins is still sitting in thewallet.  Well, I think the thief must be careful on selling the coins so he won't traced.  The process of sellinng might take sometime for it is a huge amount of money.  One thing is can it be traced if the thief use a mixer?


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: De Selby on August 06, 2016, 04:05:58 PM
In a sense, getting away with the hack is the easiest part, really. The real problem is laundering the funds in a secure way. Using one (or several) mixing services is fine in theory, but you would still have to trust a centralized service which, for all we know, could be run by law enforcement. Imagine pulling off one of the biggest thefts in record history, only to lose everything because you got caught in a LE honeypot!

It is for the above reasons that I'm assuming the hackers know of a better way to go about the whole process. My best guess would be that they're really part of an international crime syndicate employing money mules to cash out the funds and launder the stole lucre through "regular", time-tested money laundering channels.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: razor5cl on August 06, 2016, 04:09:13 PM
If the stolen coins aren't sold, are they going to be sold eventually? I find it odd that a hacker would perform such a large attack and steal lots of money, only to just throw it away. My personal guess would be they're going to launder the coins, and spend them/sell them for cash. However could such an attack be politically/socially motivated rather than just for the money? Sounds like the sort of thing certain "hacktivists" would do.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Yakamoto on August 06, 2016, 04:14:28 PM
I think the guy hasn't done very much with his Bitcoin, unless he's already sold a lot of it so far. I would expect him to be mixing some small amounts for the next while and not bringing much attention to him or his addresses. He'll likely lay low for at least a month or two, and chances are he won't go back on the internet for a while. Just unplug all his stuff and not do anything else, to try and keep his identity a secret.

The dude has $63,000,000 stored away now, he won't have to do anything ever again if he doesn't want to.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on August 06, 2016, 04:17:37 PM
do we know any of the addresses belonging to the hacker? i always see an address being officially published by the hacked site. but this time i can't find any. am i blind or finex never published it?

anyways those funds are not going to be sold this soon. they will probably stay stationary for a very long time, even a couple of years, before the hacker moves them.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: r.o.o.t on August 09, 2016, 07:48:33 AM


Hitler about Bitfinex - quite funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN4RdrN80ic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN4RdrN80ic)



Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: .m. on September 04, 2016, 10:14:16 PM
Making fun from us poor


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: aamarket on September 14, 2016, 12:46:07 PM
List of addresses, emptied of course :

https://gist.github.com/dooglus/f4e8f49eb5dd7eb3de05428149ea3e3b (https://gist.github.com/dooglus/f4e8f49eb5dd7eb3de05428149ea3e3b)


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: BitAurum on September 14, 2016, 01:13:51 PM
I think the guy hasn't done very much with his Bitcoin, unless he's already sold a lot of it so far. I would expect him to be mixing some small amounts for the next while and not bringing much attention to him or his addresses. He'll likely lay low for at least a month or two, and chances are he won't go back on the internet for a while. Just unplug all his stuff and not do anything else, to try and keep his identity a secret.

The dude has $63,000,000 stored away now, he won't have to do anything ever again if he doesn't want to.
There's no point in having all that cash if your not going to use it. Might as well return it to their original owners.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: hasiramasenju on September 14, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
as many people said that last month the prices dumped because they were panic selling after those incident and i don't think the hackers already sell their bitcoin and maybe will difficult to them to bulk sell because every exchanges do not accept suspicious activity


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pissedoff on September 14, 2016, 04:24:20 PM
as many people said that last month the prices dumped because they were panic selling after those incident and i don't think the hackers already sell their bitcoin and maybe will difficult to them to bulk sell because every exchanges do not accept suspicious activity

If the hackers dump their bitcoins in bulk on any exchange it will make the bitcoin market price go down a lot and the sale will be clear.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: hawkins on September 14, 2016, 05:10:00 PM
I do not know, I feel that he sells bitcoin such small amounts so as to make him do not get caught. sold at very low prices in large quantities, will make bitcoin prices to be down, and tu will be very dangerous for hackers, because it might make getting caught


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: crairezx20 on September 14, 2016, 05:23:07 PM

i think No, because the amount that had been stolen by the theft from bitfinex is not small . its amount will definetly change the price of the bitcoins .
if the btc had been sold then there will be sharply fall in the bitcoin amount will take place but there is nothing like that instead of small change in rate due to change in the value of doller .
I think your right they not sold those bitcoins maybe a small amount and use for their activity or to use to treat someone.
It is big amount if they hack the all bitcoins from exchange site.. they are lucky that we can not report them to the police this is our problem about online anytime we can lose if we do not know how to protect our site.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: richardsNY on September 14, 2016, 10:00:46 PM
as many people said that last month the prices dumped because they were panic selling after those incident and i don't think the hackers already sell their bitcoin and maybe will difficult to them to bulk sell because every exchanges do not accept suspicious activity


The coins at this point are too hot if you know what I mean. If the hackers (they surely won't) deposit their coins in various exchanges, then the chances to have these coins "seized" by the exchanges in question are very high. I am quite sure that they will take years for these coins to let them cool off.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: mixan on September 14, 2016, 10:23:01 PM
Anybody who takes the chance to sell off those coins are going to be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.
They will have to answer to a lot of people once they get caught.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: mindrust on September 14, 2016, 10:25:55 PM
They are already sold. Haven't you checked the huge volumes that day? Volumes matched exactly with the stolen amount. No need to worry about that anymore. If they haven't sold them not get tracked, they could always use coin mixers anyway. Once the coins are stolen it is over. You can do nothing about it.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: iv4n on September 14, 2016, 10:28:30 PM
Probably not, something like that would inflict market too much. They will sell it in waves, we felt first one. Next one no one will notice, people will wonder why price is going down. When someone move big amounts with bitcoin, probably that cause price fluctuate so much.
I know I`m not an expert, but that is logical explanation. Who knows what hackers have in mind with millions they have now. We can just imagine here what they did with bitcoins they stole from bitfinex. When you opened this topic, Mt.Gox can also be considered in here. Are coins from that robbery sold, or someone still keep them for price rise? I will guess that they have a stash, like some investment, and back up plan if they spent all money.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Leonard2016 on September 15, 2016, 03:07:29 AM
usually these hackers won't sell the coins for many years at a time. they keep the coins in a couple of bitcoin addresses for a couple of years at least and when everybody started to forget about hem, that is when they start running the coins through mixers and selll it very slowly.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: rio3233 on September 15, 2016, 04:52:17 AM
I think the hacker already sold all hacked bitcoins because the hacker want secure the bitcoins. If i were the hacker, i will sell all them step by step. The hacker will get rich instantly.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Gahs on September 15, 2016, 07:35:14 AM
The hacker would have sold some of it for sure, but I don't think he has sold all of it... the price of bitcoins would have fallen to less than $520 if he had sold all at once.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: bitjoin on September 15, 2016, 07:55:51 AM

Its bullish with this amount of coin missing and difficult to sell, we still have a ton of people with BFXcoin waiting to buy back BTC.  Im one of them!


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pissedoff on September 15, 2016, 08:29:52 AM
The hacker would have sold some of it for sure, but I don't think he has sold all of it... the price of bitcoins would have fallen to less than $520 if he had sold all at once.
If the hacker has sold their bitcoins the bitcoin market price will be much lower because the sale will drive the price down.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: NordicRanger on October 14, 2016, 10:40:23 PM
I think they already sold it but I do not know what they really did of course, most likely they have still an amount in their cold storage and sold a part too to make some good money.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: cpfreeplz on October 14, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
Anybody who takes the chance to sell off those coins are going to be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.
They will have to answer to a lot of people once they get caught.

Who says they'll ever sell them? They could always spend them an anonymous services and still live the rest of their lives not worrying at all what might happen. It could also be that the hackers were hired to do this and someone already bought them right away at a discounted price to buy illegal goods.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: tabas on October 14, 2016, 11:10:23 PM
I think they already sold it but I do not know what they really did of course, most likely they have still an amount in their cold storage and sold a part too to make some good money.

Well I think that was sold too. Because think about after the incident the price decrease rapidly and after for some weeks the price is increasing it again. I guess that is because the demand of bitcoin increased as the hacker sold it already and it is in the market already that helped the price to recover but not for bitfinex.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Dora Doll on October 15, 2016, 07:38:30 AM
Anybody who takes the chance to sell off those coins are going to be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.
They will have to answer to a lot of people once they get caught.
but if a person was going to hack the such a big exchange and take the money, why will he thing about such thing and second is that is there any why to distinguish about the bitcoin that were stolen from the exchange? to catch them and then punish them, and according to what law they will be punished if they even caught.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: The_prodigy on October 15, 2016, 09:22:12 AM
They're going to sell it part by part not one time selling , Or they using it for there prososal like creating a new site or exchange ? Of hackers something like that? And they gonna use it to funds there project it there are going to sell that bitcoins maybe they going to be detected. I think it is Inside job.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: 1Referee on October 15, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
Nope. These coins will get mixed in a very slow but efficient manner. Once that is done, they can start using these "clean" coins, but in very low amounts. I guess they will probably do it by the 1-5BTC per time in order to not get too much attention pointed at them. It will be a time consuming process, but once done, they are multi millionaire with coins that they can freely move back and forth.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: randy8777 on October 15, 2016, 03:58:04 PM
it makes sense that exchanges will freeze these stolen coins once deposited, but i am wondering if bitfinex has shared the addresses of where these coins went to. i have been looking for it on the internet, but haven't found any articles containing an address.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Cresciuanto on October 15, 2016, 04:13:08 PM
to i think the bitcoins that were stolen from bitfinex exchange well already be sold as the hackers must try their best to make clear their position as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: x|8y8|x on October 16, 2016, 09:58:46 AM
to i think the bitcoins that were stolen from bitfinex exchange well already be sold as the hackers must try their best to make clear their position as soon as possible.
but i think it may not yet be sold and the reason is that the hacker may want to remain calm for some time so as people may stop thinking about that after that they can easily sell it.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: lumeire on October 16, 2016, 10:51:46 AM
to i think the bitcoins that were stolen from bitfinex exchange well already be sold as the hackers must try their best to make clear their position as soon as possible.
but i think it may not yet be sold and the reason is that the hacker may want to remain calm for some time so as people may stop thinking about that after that they can easily sell it.

If you think about it, it may be those hackers that keeps the price rising so they can dump everything they've got on us.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: arwin100 on October 16, 2016, 11:01:28 AM
to i think the bitcoins that were stolen from bitfinex exchange well already be sold as the hackers must try their best to make clear their position as soon as possible.
but i think it may not yet be sold and the reason is that the hacker may want to remain calm for some time so as people may stop thinking about that after that they can easily sell it.

If you think about it, it may be those hackers that keeps the price rising so they can dump everything they've got on us.

well you have some point about it but i think they slowly sold it so it cannot affect the bitcoins price and surely hackers dont esnt bitcoins die or going to dump since they can earn huge profit if they can maintain the price at this matter. and lets move on for that issue since the damage has been and hackers are so rich by this time surely they are still on party mode for such huge money they get from bitfinnex.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: 1Referee on October 16, 2016, 11:11:25 AM
it makes sense that exchanges will freeze these stolen coins once deposited, but i am wondering if bitfinex has shared the addresses of where these coins went to. i have been looking for it on the internet, but haven't found any articles containing an address.

Nope, but I think it's mainly done to prevent the public from knowing where the coins have gone. And you probably can let your imagination do the rest... Everything around the "hack" of Bitfinex stinks.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Cresciuanto on October 16, 2016, 11:42:07 AM
it makes sense that exchanges will freeze these stolen coins once deposited, but i am wondering if bitfinex has shared the addresses of where these coins went to. i have been looking for it on the internet, but haven't found any articles containing an address.

Nope, but I think it's mainly done to prevent the public from knowing where the coins have gone. And you probably can let your imagination do the rest... Everything around the "hack" of Bitfinex stinks.
yes and i think it s not so easy to to do so, and i think they will have already move the money into a safe place and they must have done some arrangement for the bitcoins they hacked.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Shiroslullaby on October 16, 2016, 12:00:52 PM
Its actually a very interesting topic.
You have Millions of dollars in Bitcoin, but they are stolen.
How do you get the money?

When asked about the $1 Million in Bitcoin he hacked from PrimeDice the hacker said-

TheBitcoinStrip.com: So how do you cash out $1 million (more now) of "stolen" Bitcoins?

HufflePuff: Simple. You don't.

https://thebitcoinstrip.com/blog/interview-with-a-bitcoin-hacker.html


Certainly there is some way to spend these coins, though.
Not every single store, website, exchange is going to blacklist these coins, so there must be some way to convert them to cash/ goods.
Most money laundering operations charge 20-50% to convert your cash. Are there any similar methods for digital currencies?


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pissedoff on October 16, 2016, 12:24:12 PM
Its actually a very interesting topic.
You have Millions of dollars in Bitcoin, but they are stolen.
How do you get the money?

When asked about the $1 Million in Bitcoin he hacked from PrimeDice the hacker said-

TheBitcoinStrip.com: So how do you cash out $1 million (more now) of "stolen" Bitcoins?

HufflePuff: Simple. You don't.

https://thebitcoinstrip.com/blog/interview-with-a-bitcoin-hacker.html


Certainly there is some way to spend these coins, though.
Not every single store, website, exchange is going to blacklist these coins, so there must be some way to convert them to cash/ goods.
Most money laundering operations charge 20-50% to convert your cash. Are there any similar methods for digital currencies?

You cannot simply spend $1 Million on some online store that accepts bitcoins. Also the authorities will ask for your information from the store you purchased an item from.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Shiroslullaby on October 16, 2016, 01:13:54 PM
You cannot simply spend $1 Million on some online store that accepts bitcoins. Also the authorities will ask for your information from the store you purchased an item from.

Exactly.
But there has to be a way to get some of the Bitcoins spent or transferred to another form of currency.
Hackers wouldn't be working so hard to attack exchanges/ online wallets/ gambling sites if they didn't have a way to spend the money.
Some do it for the LOLZ but most are in it for the profit$.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: betlord90 on October 16, 2016, 06:09:22 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
Maybe they can sell some but not at all they can store all remaining in a safe one. So i think why the price of bitcoin down becuase it affected all the investor some are panic selling to their bitcoin when they read about hacking in bitfinex.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: socks435 on October 16, 2016, 06:12:44 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
Maybe they can sell some but not at all they can store all remaining in a safe one. So i think why the price of bitcoin down becuase it affected all the investor some are panic selling to their bitcoin when they read about hacking in bitfinex.
Yeah this is what i think and i think they are just holding some and waiting for more price increase to get more profit.. they can not spend all their hack from bitfinex since its a large amount of bitcoin and he is big time hacker right now..


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: vero on October 16, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
Maybe they can sell some but not at all they can store all remaining in a safe one. So i think why the price of bitcoin down becuase it affected all the investor some are panic selling to their bitcoin when they read about hacking in bitfinex.
Yeah this is what i think and i think they are just holding some and waiting for more price increase to get more profit.. they can not spend all their hack from bitfinex since its a large amount of bitcoin and he is big time hacker right now..
it means you have think that the pump will stop before the end of the year where it always happens from year to year due to the bitcoin has been hacked from bitfinex still not sold by the hacker.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: wikenpp on October 16, 2016, 09:20:58 PM
I find it hard that all the bitcoins are already converted. The hackers are cautious but honestly I think the hack was an inside job or something where bitfinex are too blame. They surely can't go away freely, since the wallets are extra secure with multisignature. And that smells, it's fishy and the guy behind the hack will wait for the price to go up and dump it.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: hawkins on October 16, 2016, 10:13:09 PM
I think they still sell it. whoever they are, they are very powerful and clever. perhaps, they have sold a few of the BTC to do it slowly so that the transaction is not known. Well, if I was them, maybe when I'm relaxing, because with bitcoin that much, I think it would make a person rich


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Hugroll on October 16, 2016, 10:27:59 PM
if they were sold we would have heard about it. but i dont really think it matters if they are sold or not. the money was still stolen and is still worth something even though its tainted. the hacker is probably using it as an investment.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: jossiel on October 17, 2016, 01:42:25 AM
if they were sold we would have heard about it. but i dont really think it matters if they are sold or not. the money was still stolen and is still worth something even though its tainted. the hacker is probably using it as an investment.

I don't think even they were sold no one is going to publish that either. Because I think no one can trace the bitcoins that was hacked with bitfinex.

And the hacker would just probably used an hardware wallet or a coin mixing services just for him to be not be tracked by any doxer.

For sure he is really enjoying that money already.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: rektDude on October 17, 2016, 07:45:22 AM
I think they are just holkding them because they are hacking the bitcoin you know and they ar enot doing anything with it and that is why they hold and
sell on the right time to make nicest profit.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Aceanyth on October 17, 2016, 08:18:53 AM
I dont think that they are selling their bitcoins because they are getting the bitcoins for free i think becuase they hack and they want the biggest price
for their bitcoins off course!


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: HilbillyFred on October 17, 2016, 02:14:34 PM
Off course peopel who steal bitcoins want to hld the coins till the price of the bitcoin is at his highest point becuase they got the bitcoins for free off course and they want to get
the highest amount for it!


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Kotone on October 17, 2016, 02:16:46 PM
i think yes they are going to sell it part by part or bitcoin by bitcoin to any exchange website and they can't sell it into huge market place because if they really hacked it they the owner of that website are going to chase them definitely :) but im sure that they are planning something big those hackers.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Aceanyth on October 17, 2016, 02:26:16 PM
Off course can bitcoins be hacked for sure and i dont think allot of people know this becuase they are not able to see this kind of things but really
bitcoins can be hacked for sure!


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Hoor on October 17, 2016, 07:27:32 PM
to me i think  the bitcoin that were stolen from bitfinex may be sold as the hacker may be in struggle to sell them ion time so that they may not be caught.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Shinpako09 on October 18, 2016, 05:57:57 AM
Off course can bitcoins be hacked for sure and i dont think allot of people know this becuase they are not able to see this kind of things but really
bitcoins can be hacked for sure!
But man op is not talking about btc can be hack. He is talking about the btc that was hack in bitfinex if they were sold or not yet. Anyway, for me they are still holding it and just sold only few.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: PsursV on October 18, 2016, 06:20:28 AM
I think they still sell it. whoever they are, they are very powerful and clever. perhaps, they have sold a few of the BTC to do it slowly so that the transaction is not known. Well, if I was them, maybe when I'm relaxing, because with bitcoin that much, I think it would make a person rich
but i will never like to be in them, how can take the money of another person, i think it is very injustices  and no religion or society can give permission for that, and hope that one day they will be catch by the government,


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: elDano on October 18, 2016, 08:02:31 AM
People who hgack bitcoins will never sell their bitcoins direct becuase they are not the one who make money their boss is making money and they want
to get full amount for it that they are also making moneyt.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Alauria on October 18, 2016, 08:14:13 AM
The people who are stealing bitcoins are only holding them becuase the price is not what they want they want to make the most money from their stolen bitcoins you know
and when they are selling them right now they are not making allot.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pocarime32 on October 18, 2016, 10:00:36 AM
Well, i'm sure the hacker will not sell all the hack bitcoins directly. Because it will be suspicious if the hacker sell all the hack bitcoins directly. The hacker will sell it slowly, step by step.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: molsewid on October 18, 2016, 01:55:14 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
As the price dropped in the month of what month is that again when the bitfinex hacked then the bitcoin price really down that time and i think they already sell the bitcoin they got from the exchange website. And if the hackers didn't sell the bitcoin maybe they are now tracing him or maybe it just the owner :P


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: BitHodler on October 18, 2016, 02:04:06 PM
The people who are stealing bitcoins are only holding them becuase the price is not what they want they want to make the most money from their stolen bitcoins you know
and when they are selling them right now they are not making allot.
Current price doesn't matter for hackers on whether or not they want to sell their coins.

It's their first and only priority to keep the coins "hidden" and "cleaned" offline/untouched for as long as possible.

At some point in the future they will start spending/selling their coins in a manner that they don't raise any suspicions.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Ulloa on October 18, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
I doubt about this,  think that some part is sold for some nice price and that another part is still on holding these days, but I really do not know what they did with it..
I think that they not sold it all.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Adrorecia on October 18, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
I doubt about this,  think that some part is sold for some nice price and that another part is still on holding these days, but I really do not know what they did with it..
I think that they not sold it all.

Its indeed hard to say what they have done but most likely they have indeed sold it for a part and also hold a part.
I think that would also be the smartest way but we cannot know this.. indeed.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: jaweria khan on October 18, 2016, 08:47:56 PM
i think they may not be sill able to sell them as they will be worry about not to catch while selling them.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: AsaroUk on October 19, 2016, 02:20:03 AM
They must have sold it for a part but I think that its also logical that they have hold some of it to make more profit in the future.
I do not think they are stupid and think that the bitcoin will not have a great future.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Mr.grin on October 19, 2016, 11:38:02 AM
They must have sold it for a part but I think that its also logical that they have hold some of it to make more profit in the future.
I do not think they are stupid and think that the bitcoin will not have a great future.
but I guess it's a bitcoin very much. bitcoin hold as much as it will calm you down, so I feel they will continue to sell, or exchange into money, but in a slow and piecemeal. due to the very large transaction, they may be striking. Well, maybe this time they are trying to remove any trace of them.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Erzatium on October 19, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
I hope they already sold because I really hate the fact that they have nailed us, I think that they already have sold it to be sure that they cannot be traced or something.
These people really fucked it up and I hope they will end up poor honestly.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: pereira4 on October 19, 2016, 03:04:56 PM
If all of those coins have not been sold already, it does not really matter, the inertia of the uptrend is too strong. Only an idiot would try to crash the market again. We have seen how Bitcoin can now recover from massive sellouts and will end up higher than it started . It's simply better to buy and hold your wealth on Bitcoin as the price goes up as the financial system collapses.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: arseaboy on October 19, 2016, 04:30:44 PM
I believe they will not use the bitcoins for the mean time. They are just waiting for the right time until the prices will go up the way they wanted to. Probably they can do anything using their bitcoins.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: fatima zuhra on October 19, 2016, 09:19:08 PM
to me it may not be sold. as the hacker will still holding the bitcoins so as to turn the issue a little cold and after that they will be thinking how to sell these bitcoin, they will need some good strategy for selling these bitcoins.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Taki on October 20, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
If they would sell all the amount of bitcoins that they stole the price would go higher today, But after that hacking the price seems frozen on the same level for a month already. So I think today they are just keeping that coins to cash it out when the price will be high or they are making some little and necessary operations with those coins to nobody noticed some big money transfers.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: n691309 on October 20, 2016, 11:07:53 PM
What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?

The amount of bitcoins that were hacked was very large and I don't think it's easy to sell or trade them, neither mix them on the bitcoin mixers, maybe a small part was sold but the entire amount to be sold needs time and lots of bitcoin mixers.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: SANALIU on October 20, 2016, 11:19:42 PM
maybe only issue not real accident
because until now in another exchange in bitfinex volume transaction is flat not big incraese
not big volume send in another addres until now
maybe only issue, or its hacker still hold bitcoin


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: chesthing on October 20, 2016, 11:51:34 PM
The people who are stealing bitcoins are only holding them becuase the price is not what they want they want to make the most money from their stolen bitcoins you know
and when they are selling them right now they are not making allot.

What?! they paid nothing for them, selling them at current price would be awesome.
The real question is whether Bitfinex is the actual thief.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: CoinsRoyal on October 21, 2016, 02:17:43 AM
The people who are stealing bitcoins are only holding them becuase the price is not what they want they want to make the most money from their stolen bitcoins you know
and when they are selling them right now they are not making allot.

You are right about that they just want to hold the bitcoin so they can make some good profit it due to the fact that it has a great future and they know there is more profit..
I hope this people will most likely even lose there bitcoin..


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: chesthing on October 21, 2016, 02:47:38 AM
Yeah, that's it. Thieves have stolen millions of dollars worth of bitcoin, and they are waiting for the price to rise to sell them. Fucking people in this thread have the iq of an ape.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: DavidoAlto on October 21, 2016, 02:51:44 AM
I think they still have hold a amount to make some good profit but of course we cannot know this, I think that they are getting really rich if the price rises.
Bad but its the truth..


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Jerrietg on October 21, 2016, 03:00:06 AM
i think they will mix the coin and sell the coin  fewly. slowly .


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: chesthing on October 21, 2016, 03:02:06 AM
I think Bitfinex stole them from their trusting customers and have already dumped them.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Bitcoinbro on October 21, 2016, 03:50:33 PM
They still did not sell it all because they will wait on a better price and than sell it for a good profit.
I also would do it on that way its pretty simple and it will provide you very good profits!


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Newcoins2020 on October 21, 2016, 07:00:01 PM
They still did not sell it all because they will wait on a better price and than sell it for a good profit.
I also would do it on that way its pretty simple and it will provide you very good profits!

There is  a good chance that they indeed still not sold their bitcoins because they also know there is more profit to take on a later moment.
Most likely they are waiting like us on a higher price.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: leowonderful on October 22, 2016, 01:03:03 AM
I'd think that they mixed and sold a portion initially and are selling them slowly, as to avoid any kind of tracking and to not garner much attention. It's definitely possible that they've already sold their coins, but then again, nobody will truly know. It might even be the thing that's keeping the price of bitcoin down, even though I admit even that sounds quite ridiculous.


Title: Re: Do you think guys the hack bitcoin from bitfinex still not sold?
Post by: Zadicar on October 22, 2016, 04:01:59 AM
I'd think that they mixed and sold a portion initially and are selling them slowly, as to avoid any kind of tracking and to not garner much attention. It's definitely possible that they've already sold their coins, but then again, nobody will truly know. It might even be the thing that's keeping the price of bitcoin down, even though I admit even that sounds quite ridiculous.

Im quite sure  on myself that they already sold   part or all of those  coins  using mixers   because as  we observe   after on bitfinex hack the  price drops drastically means those coins are  being   sold   on the current  price. If those hackers would tend  to  hold  those coins   price would not   drop drastically. IMHO