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Title: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: omer_parvez on August 07, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
If we see Both Candidates than we can clearly see ......... One is very outspoken and the other is hypocrite (Hilary Clinton) i dont know why they are playing with the sentiments of peoples .......one is going against Muslims and the other is trying to be a second mother to Muslims ...........One is pushing Muslims to wall and the other is trying to trap them for their votes so i dont know what the people of America wants .......Bernie sanders can never win this election for obvious reasons but the main thing what have we become and why no good candiates are here


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 08, 2016, 01:42:55 PM
Bernie sanders can never win this election for obvious reasons but the main thing what have we become and why no good candiates are here

He won almost half of the states, and a huge majority of the youth voters rallied behind him. The only thing that went against him was that he was a complete failure in attracting the African American vote, which forms the backbone of the Democrat electorate. Still, credit goes to him for retaining at least a part of the blue collar white vote within the Democrat party. Else Trump would have swept all of them.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Frodomaga on August 08, 2016, 01:56:35 PM
I am not siding with either candidates.
I will move from the states by the time one of them take office. :-[                                                                                                                                                                                           


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tsaroz on August 08, 2016, 02:15:03 PM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. What you sow is what you rip.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: pinkflower on August 08, 2016, 02:18:34 PM
I dislike them both. One politician who I think that really gets it somehow is Ron Paul. He strikes me as a person who always tries to be true to himself and the people around him.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 08, 2016, 03:54:58 PM
I dislike them both. One politician who I think that really gets it somehow is Ron Paul. He strikes me as a person who always tries to be true to himself and the people around him.

Ron Paul sounds and looks like a squawking chicken.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bticgoinsuxial on August 08, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
Trump is much better. He might actually apply some changes to the system.
This can lead to good or bad things.
But even if bad then we can learn from those bad choices and make better choices in future.
I think Clinton would be too passive and wouldn't try to change anything.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: olubams on August 08, 2016, 04:55:12 PM
In my own opinion, when we are left with two worse choices we then choose the bad option so in this case, we will have to go for one. In my personal position, I will still want to go for Hillary Clinton not because she is best candidate but because Trump is an arrogant personality and most of his speeches has been hateful and the likes... I cant just imagine Trump in white house but what can I do, I cant even vote...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 08, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
I cant just imagine Trump in white house but what can I do, I cant even vote...

From your previous posts, I can see that you are from Nigeria. You need to realize that the Americans are going to elect someone who is going to care for them, rather than appeasing immigrants from third world nations. And why you are so worried about Trump becoming the American president? I have never seen any Americans posting about the Nigerian presidential elections.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: romero121 on August 08, 2016, 05:49:30 PM
In my own opinion, when we are left with two worse choices we then choose the bad option so in this case, we will have to go for one. In my personal position, I will still want to go for Hillary Clinton not because she is best candidate but because Trump is an arrogant personality and most of his speeches has been hateful and the likes... I cant just imagine Trump in white house but what can I do, I cant even vote...

I too can't vote. Still I believe and support Hilary Clinton because of the hate created in minds by trumph. His speech has made me hate him to the biggest extent.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: xht on August 08, 2016, 06:10:39 PM
The woman has a history of underhanded lying corrupt and criminal, i think donald trump would win this election even she have a chance but if i was have america citizen would give my vote for donald trump.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 08, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
In my own opinion, when we are left with two worse choices we then choose the bad option so in this case, we will have to go for one. In my personal position, I will still want to go for Hillary Clinton not because she is best candidate but because Trump is an arrogant personality and most of his speeches has been hateful and the likes... I cant just imagine Trump in white house but what can I do, I cant even vote...

I too can't vote. Still I believe and support Hilary Clinton because of the hate created in minds by trumph. His speech has made me hate him to the biggest extent.

Because you dislike Trump, does not make Clinton any better, for sure she will be charging for war if she gets in.
She is on the side of the war machine who support her, they are corrupt just like her, c'mon you have to reasonable about your thoughts here, do you really want a corrupt politician who holds no human values in her very soul.
Have you even researched anything about her, it will change your mind in a flash.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Daniel91 on August 08, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
I think that both of them have good and bad points, so it's not easy to decide really.
Hillary had a lot scandals like with emails of scandal in Libya but also she was first lady 8 years and 4 years in the Obama's government.
So, she have a lot political experience, it's fact.
Trump is very arrogant person, and don't have political experience.
From other hand, he can change American politics and start something new, who know?
It's not easy decision, but I still think Hilary should become new US President.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 08, 2016, 07:04:47 PM
I think that both of them have good and bad points, so it's not easy to decide really.
Hillary had a lot scandals like with emails of scandal in Libya but also she was first lady 8 years and 4 years in the Obama's government.
So, she have a lot political experience, it's fact.
Trump is very arrogant person, and don't have political experience.
From other hand, he can change American politics and start something new, who know?
It's not easy decision, but I still think Hilary should become new US President.


Well take a very good look at Clitons experience especially her foreign policies, you really think she deserves to be a president after all her failures?
You could indeed post some of her good deeds here if you want, I would then consider my standing towards her.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: eddie13 on August 08, 2016, 07:17:04 PM
The fact that Trump pisses you people off on the other side of the world is a huge reason I'm voting for him...

Couldn't give a rats ass whats good for you in nigeria or turkey or wherever you run your mouth from. Or if your a muslim then quit blowing shit up, maybe we start letting you back in in 20 years..

It's time for us Americans to vote to put America First before all the little whiners across the world.. We give and do for so many people all over the world and we just can't give anymore..

We have to start being more selfish and looking out for ourselves, our economy isn't like it used to be, we are not all just rich by far. We are sliding down hill, and we need to turn it around..


BTW I've ,ived in Dearborn and know muslims in america first hand.. The majority of them ARE NOT AMERICANS.. They self segregate and stick to their own people, language, and customs drawing welfare..


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 08, 2016, 11:31:13 PM
The fact that Trump pisses you people off on the other side of the world is a huge reason I'm voting for him...

Couldn't give a rats ass whats good for you in nigeria ...

I for one have never had an impolite or rude Nigerian email same come to me.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: gentlemand on August 08, 2016, 11:46:23 PM
Neither's a very appetising choice. Hilary is a legacy zombie. Trump is, well, I'm not 100% sure how to classify him.

In a UK-centric context, what we've seen with Brexit and the current Labour leader madness is that people are in a mood to fuck shit up out of a feeling of impotence with the state of the things, even if it makes their current situation worse.

The democrats should've come up with someone who doesn't have so much ancient history and such a strong establishment whiff. Because they did, they might have played into the hands of Donald and the more outrageous and unhinged he is the more appealing he becomes to legions of trigger happy voters.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Herp on August 09, 2016, 12:38:33 AM
It seems Trump is losing the battle, slowly but surely. Now there's a new candidate that will eat away at his base. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/08/anti-trump-candidate-evan-mcmullin-to-launch-independent-white-house-bid.html

Hillary has a double digit lead over Trump so there's that also.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: virtualx on August 09, 2016, 12:55:18 AM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. 
The most funny is the most powerful nation in the world will be ruled by a grandmother or grandfather. :D

Clinton is 69 years old
Trump is 70 years old



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Herp on August 09, 2016, 01:02:05 AM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about.  
The most funny is the most powerful nation in the world will be ruled by a grandmother or grandfather. :D

Clinton is 69 years old
Trump is 70 years old



Have people ever wondered how would Trump look like without that suntan? You can see it around his eyes, that his face looks like that of tired old grandma`. It's not the face of a guy that's high energy.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/4e/6e/744e6e88d42d9a84e47106762515dc28.jpg


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 09, 2016, 01:07:03 AM

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (two ls)

It's a tie!

Donald Trump: 0
Hillary Clinton: 0


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: connexus on August 09, 2016, 02:57:04 AM

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (two ls)

It's a tie!

Donald Trump: 0
Hillary Clinton: 0

Not good if both of them will share one position. Let the vice presidential winner take over.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Herp on August 09, 2016, 04:16:13 PM

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (two ls)

It's a tie!

Donald Trump: 0
Hillary Clinton: 0

Not good if both of them will share one position. Let the vice presidential winner take over.

There's an open race now with 3 3rd party candidates.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RealityTruth on August 09, 2016, 07:02:43 PM
it's a very tough choice but I would say Trump. If Hilary wins she will just continue Obama's policy to provoke Russia and China, if Trump wins anything is possible, even peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCuMNs5PdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCuMNs5PdM)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 09, 2016, 09:16:26 PM
it's a very tough choice but I would say Trump. If Hilary wins she will just continue Obama's policy to provoke Russia and China, if Trump wins anything is possible, even peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCuMNs5PdM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaCuMNs5PdM)

The US, Russia and China should form a united front against Islamic terrorism.

Hillary won't go for that. In fact, she'd continue getting the US on the wrong side in conflicts.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 10, 2016, 12:03:53 AM

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (two ls)

It's a tie!

Donald Trump: 0
Hillary Clinton: 0

Not good if both of them will share one position. Let the vice presidential winner take over.

There's an open race now with 3 3rd party candidates.

True!

Dr. Jill Stein (Green Party ) has run before....and was arrested trying to enter the Presidential debate!!!

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_honkala

Amazing resilience.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Herp on August 10, 2016, 01:34:42 AM

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (two ls)

It's a tie!

Donald Trump: 0
Hillary Clinton: 0

Not good if both of them will share one position. Let the vice presidential winner take over.

There's an open race now with 3 3rd party candidates.

True!

Dr. Jill Stein (Green Party ) has run before....and was arrested trying to enter the Presidential debate!!!

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_honkala

Amazing resilience.

She's a primitivist though. I could never support that.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: pao_de_lo on August 10, 2016, 02:37:27 AM
Anyone who wants to know about the mindset of Obama and Hillary Clinton,
you need to understand who is the intellectual master of them: Saul David Alinsky

Saul Alinsky, writer, activist, a Jew born in the US, died in 1972.

search for: Saul Alinsky
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Saul+David+Alinsky+communism+jew&


The Triumph of Cultural Marxism (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4raFHTlyjU)
 - Olavo de Carvalho, Cliff Kincaid e Jerry Kenney [/b]
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O4raFHTlyjU/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4raFHTlyjU)


official site: http://agendadocumentary.com/
 - AGENDA - documentário completo - Legendado _
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/I0Aq5SQrIEg/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Aq5SQrIEg)


FUTURE OF EUA:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u_skPUSOCWc/UqYA5OUO1HI/AAAAAAAAi00/YsNHL9WIOW8/s1600/bandido.jpg


Brazilian music, culture
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tfCDLmEtAe0/0.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N-Y3lnfA3v0/VeWo1oeaSVI/AAAAAAAAJBE/PH2xyMw6c_c/s640/funk%2Bde%2Brua%2B01.jpg
 (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=funk+corredor)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: pao_de_lo on August 10, 2016, 03:02:17 AM
I am not siding with either candidates.
I will move from the states by the time one of them take office. :-[

Come and live in Brazil.
We are with open arms to welcome you.


Venha viver no Brasil.
Estamos de braços abertos para te receber.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: romero121 on August 10, 2016, 06:18:22 PM
Compared to Trump, Hilary Clinton seems to be far better with the social reforms she had made. Trump has just increased his wealth and nothing high than that. Possibly Hilary wins the race.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 10, 2016, 10:13:09 PM
Compared to Trump, Hilary Clinton seems to be far better with the social reforms she had made. Trump has just increased his wealth and nothing high than that. Possibly Hilary wins the race.

Wrong!!

Watch "Clinton Cash!"  Feature-length documentary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Megaquake on August 10, 2016, 11:31:23 PM
Everyone should see this Documentary about the Clinton MOB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPX1G--iE3Q

If you look at Trump's history he still holds the same belief, he is not a republican either but is the only chance to win the POTUS was to go R, any vote for independent automatically goes to clinton.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: mahrezpunjab on August 12, 2016, 07:42:00 AM
Iam chose hilary clinton
is donald trump is bad speaking public service


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Herp on August 12, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
Clinton lead seems to be increasing and it's not fake data. All polls, including Fox which supports Trump seems to reflect this.

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291257-polls-clinton-leads-in-four-swing-states


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: joshvette001 on August 12, 2016, 03:50:37 PM
If either win it will start the end to america!  ;D
Both are devils and one is bigger than the other at being evil so guess which one is that.  :P


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Masha Sha on August 12, 2016, 03:51:27 PM
In an honest election Bernie would have add a chance against trump (if he wasn't a sell out all along to get his 0.6M$ house lol). The old woman? She will be dead on arrival... Her health is catching her deeds... The spirits of those she wronged are tracking her... Of course she can feel it. She said it herself.  ::)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: joshvette001 on August 12, 2016, 04:42:04 PM
In an honest election Bernie would have add a chance against trump (if he wasn't a sell out all along to get his 0.6M$ house lol). The old woman? She will be dead on arrival... Her health is catching her deeds... The spirits of those she wronged are tracking her... Of course she can feel it. She said it herself.  ::)
Yeah, she has alot of deeds to repay the devil for to get her this far!  ;)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Masha Sha on August 13, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
Clinton lead seems to be increasing and it's not fake data. All polls, including Fox which supports Trump seems to reflect this.

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291257-polls-clinton-leads-in-four-swing-states

Not aware of the take over of fox? LoL Roger was take over by the Murdoch and Clinton gangs... Nyt was quick to support Gretchen... The truth is that Rupert was a media warrior... talent isn't hereditary :D.

What ever who controls the machine will win...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Megaquake on August 13, 2016, 08:43:24 AM
Iam chose hilary clinton
is donald trump is bad speaking public service


You are a FUCKING dumb ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 You would rather have a person that talks a good line that someone else wrote for them and is full of shit than have someone that speaks form his mind abet a little harsh but the people in the US government are a big bunch of pussy's and Trump is not one of them!

The clintons are murderers!

Trump 2016!


I love my country lets save it from the government!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Tyrantt on August 13, 2016, 01:23:50 PM
Iam chose hilary clinton
is donald trump is bad speaking public service

So you'd prefer a president who's a smooth talker, who's strong on words but not on the things they do (btw 30k deleted e-mails is  lot of commitment tho)? I think that's, fucking, stupid. Sorry, but it is.


Title: Watch How Donald Trump And Hillary Clinton Contradict Themselves On ...
Post by: BADecker on August 13, 2016, 02:58:21 PM
Watch How Donald Trump And Hillary Clinton Contradict Themselves On Just About Everything (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/201890-2016-08-12-watch-how-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-contradict-themselves-on.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0812073300-hill-and-donald.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/201890-2016-08-12-watch-how-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-contradict-themselves-on.htm)


These two videos — one of Trump and one of Hillary — expose the lengths these politicians will go to lie, cheat, and steal their way to the top.


Hillary Clinton A Lying Compilation
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bQO3KwHh7gY/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=LbQl_fgVuiFeSrjmyAmHeMPmsWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQO3KwHh7gY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQO3KwHh7gY)


Trump Exposes Trump
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kSE-XoVKaXg/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=j_TjmlEH5QThLfNyW_Fc8Q0CFBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg)


Read more at http://www.trueactivist.com/watch-how-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-contradict-themselves-on-just-about-everything. (http://www.trueactivist.com/watch-how-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-contradict-themselves-on-just-about-everything)


8)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RealityTruth on August 14, 2016, 07:31:51 PM
Donald 2016  :)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: omer_parvez on August 18, 2016, 07:17:09 AM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about.  
The most funny is the most powerful nation in the world will be ruled by a grandmother or grandfather. :D

Clinton is 69 years old
Trump is 70 years old



Have people ever wondered how would Trump look like without that suntan? You can see it around his eyes, that his face looks like that of tired old grandma`. It's not the face of a guy that's high energy.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/4e/6e/744e6e88d42d9a84e47106762515dc28.jpg
I dont think so we should talk about his face or his personal things or anything that do not reflect his politics


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: groll on August 18, 2016, 08:03:32 AM
I am routing for Clinton as I believe she could really be a good leader.  Besides she have all the experience needed to rule this country.  She is exposed to the state of the US economy as she was a former first lady, former senator, and a former secretary of state.  That was Before!   I think Trump have more ambitions with the US.  He have goals and plans to do in the government as he was a citizen and sees the real state of the US.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tsaroz on August 18, 2016, 01:56:44 PM
Trump is just a response to a biased and rigged US politics. He is not a politician but a desperate anger of common US people who are tired of Political drama of US political elites who are exploiting the taxes of it's people for their interest without a clear consent of the voters.

But Trump is not a solution, He can't handle a Nation, Yes he have some good looking promises but It's rather easy to speak than solve the problem. US needs a political reform from it's democratic system especially taking the politics away from the two party elites, making the choice of leaders more democratic.

Of the two evils, US would suffer the both way, Needs to choose a lesser evil.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Palodar on August 18, 2016, 02:02:07 PM
Trump is just a response to a biased and rigged US politics. He is not a politician but a desperate anger of common US people who are tired of Political drama of US political elites who are exploiting the taxes of it's people for their interest without a clear consent of the voters.

But Trump is not a solution, He can't handle a Nation, Yes he have some good looking promises but It's rather easy to speak than solve the problem. US needs a political reform from it's democratic system especially taking the politics away from the two party elites, making the choice of leaders more democratic.

Of the two evils, US would suffer the both way, Needs to choose a lesser evil.

I beg to disagree. I want the way of trump on changing the way of politics. His platform and ambition is very innovative. He is the voice of all american people who want to change the way of politics as of now. We are tired on trusting and believing to a leader that don't do his/her promises just like obama. He is just a dick by allowing same sex marriage. I want to stop this kind of immorality


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: mindrust on August 18, 2016, 02:09:37 PM
I hate Hillary Clinton. She is a vampire. I can't believe that she will be the next president of USA. Also, Donald is a cartoon character. But if i have to choose someone between these two, I would choose Donald Trump. At least he is not supported by shady organisations like Killary. He supports his campaign himself.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 18, 2016, 02:48:47 PM
I hate Hillary Clinton. She is a vampire. I can't believe that she will be the next president of USA. Also, Donald is a cartoon character. But if i have to choose someone between these two, I would choose Donald Trump. At least he is not supported by shady organisations like Killary. He supports his campaign himself.

I understand what you are saying, but please think it out.   Anyone who can do what Trump has accomplished is a genius in business.  Yes, he comes across as unusual, to say the least.

But this guy has a track record of actually doing things - very, very difficult things.  He's got a long history of building large projects, often in partners with the local politicians, both parties, note.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 18, 2016, 08:30:06 PM
I will never cast a vote for either of them.

MUST-WATCH:  Feature length documentary based on the book, Clinton Cash, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYRUOd_QoM)

Please don't hate me after watching it because it is a DOWNER.

I've been fighting against this immoral, imperialistic greed for decades.  

So glad it all has come to light at last.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: wine132 on August 18, 2016, 10:10:42 PM
Hillary Clinton cleaver than Donald Trumb because of i choose Hilary Clinton but if Donald can be select , global crisis will come .


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Sithara007 on August 19, 2016, 12:16:34 PM
Hillary Clinton cleaver than Donald Trumb because of i choose Hilary Clinton

High on weed?

I have no doubt that Hillary is intelligent. But the only issue is that she is using that intelligence to destabilize the world through warmongering.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 19, 2016, 11:42:42 PM


HEY, OMAR, it's H-I-L-L-A-R-Y  OK?

https://i.imgur.com/heassFO.jpg


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 20, 2016, 04:38:25 PM
Iam chose hilary clinton
is donald trump is bad speaking public service


You are a FUCKING dumb ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 You would rather have a person that talks a good line that someone else wrote for them and is full of shit than have someone that speaks form his mind abet a little harsh but the people in the US government are a big bunch of pussy's and Trump is not one of them!

The clintons are murderers!

Trump 2016!


I love my country lets save it from the government!

Ha ha mahrezpunjab is definitely not of voting age.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971263.msg15796282#msg15796282


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 20, 2016, 09:20:36 PM
Iam chose hilary clinton
is donald trump is bad speaking public service


You are a FUCKING dumb ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 You would rather have a person that talks a good line that someone else wrote for them and is full of shit than have someone that speaks form his mind abet a little harsh but the people in the US government are a big bunch of pussy's and Trump is not one of them!

The clintons are murderers!

Trump 2016!


I love my country lets save it from the government!

Ha ha mahrezpunjab is definitely not of voting age.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971263.msg15796282#msg15796282
Maybe he can pass for Mexican and vote anyway?

:)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 20, 2016, 09:49:12 PM
^

Here is a nice little argument about the illegals.

Clinton uses undocumented 'Dreamers' to boost Latino vote (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6_86K3U7E)

Why should non citizens be politically active? lol


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: squatz1 on August 20, 2016, 11:08:37 PM
I am not siding with either candidates.
I will move from the states by the time one of them take office. :-[

God so many people send this when Bush won the presidency and no one decided to leave.

Thanks for giving me some free laughs!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 21, 2016, 06:00:27 AM
Maybe he can pass for Mexican and vote anyway?

:)

Mexican vote is concentrated in the deep-blue (California, New Mexico, Oregon.etc) and the deep-red (Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona.etc) states. Their numbers are quite low in the swing-states, perhaps with the exception of Nevada and Colorado. I will not count Florida, as the Hispanic population there is mostly composed of Cubans.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Masha Sha on August 21, 2016, 06:08:02 AM
I think the white democrats establishment believe that they will be the elite and rules their masses of third worlders for ever. They see themselves as the unquestionable Shepards of the plebs. It's only normal that they loot a lot of money in the process, for their standing.

Two words: Khan London


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: dx5 on August 21, 2016, 07:22:21 AM
I like Donald Trump as a insult comic, but he should definitely not be President. And Hillary is actually worse, would sell us all out for her benefit. If one of them gets elected, then it's going to be really bad for the US. And I know this is going to sound while, but there's going to be an event that will cause for the election to be put off until further notice. So expect Obama to be President in February 2017.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: dx5 on August 21, 2016, 07:29:49 AM
Everyone should see this Documentary about the Clinton MOB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPX1G--iE3Q

If you look at Trump's history he still holds the same belief, he is not a republican either but is the only chance to win the POTUS was to go R, any vote for independent automatically goes to clinton.

Will watch later. But yeah, Trump might say a lot of racist kind of things, but it's really just to get those votes. Even knowing that he has no real chance of having the Mexicans build a wall. But Hillary will sell us out, and not only that, she's sick as in she's been having a lot of public seizures, and that's only going to get worse.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Masha Sha on August 21, 2016, 07:35:16 AM
I like Donald Trump as a insult comic, but he should definitely not be President. And Hillary is actually worse, would sell us all out for her benefit. If one of them gets elected, then it's going to be really bad for the US. And I know this is going to sound while, but there's going to be an event that will cause for the election to be put off until further notice. So expect Obama to be President in February 2017.

I don't think that HRC or DJT can be worst than Obama for the USA... It would be a great achievement in it self. But who knows... At least trump seems inclined to put America first, was born and raised here.

What is your representation of your ideal USA? What do you want?

Everyone should see this Documentary about the Clinton MOB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPX1G--iE3Q

If you look at Trump's history he still holds the same belief, he is not a republican either but is the only chance to win the POTUS was to go R, any vote for independent automatically goes to clinton.

Will watch later. But yeah, Trump might say a lot of racist kind of things, but it's really just to get those votes. Even knowing that he has no real chance of having the Mexicans build a wall. But Hillary will sell us out, and not only that, she's sick as in she's been having a lot of public seizures, and that's only going to get worse.

LoL if the USA want the Mexicans to pay for the wall there is nothing on Earth that can now stop that. Combined the power of the dollar to the us army and Mexicanos with all their pride better pay... What could they do to oppose? Join the Shanghai org? LoL...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 21, 2016, 11:47:10 AM
Will watch later. But yeah, Trump might say a lot of racist kind of things, but it's really just to get those votes. Even knowing that he has no real chance of having the Mexicans build a wall. But Hillary will sell us out, and not only that, she's sick as in she's been having a lot of public seizures, and that's only going to get worse.

For the last few decades, the non-Hispanic Whites (especially those living in regions dominated by African Americans and Hispanics) of the United States has faced unprecedented discrimination and harassment directed against them. They are the only population group to witness the living standards go down. Getting jobs and university places are getting increasingly difficult as a result of affirmative action. Trump is the voice of this marginalized group.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 21, 2016, 07:18:42 PM
Huma Abedin worked at a radical Muslim journal for 10 years

"Hillary Clinton’s top campaign aide, and the woman who might be the future White House chief of staff to the first female US president, for a decade edited a radical Muslim publication that opposed women’s rights and blamed the US for 9/11."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4653ce23-8c5e-3fcb-8b8a-8ea46629828c/ss_huma-abedin-worked-at-a.html


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 21, 2016, 07:54:03 PM
Will watch later. But yeah, Trump might say a lot of racist kind of things, but it's really just to get those votes. Even knowing that he has no real chance of having the Mexicans build a wall. But Hillary will sell us out, and not only that, she's sick as in she's been having a lot of public seizures, and that's only going to get worse.

For the last few decades, the non-Hispanic Whites (especially those living in regions dominated by African Americans and Hispanics) of the United States has faced unprecedented discrimination and harassment directed against them. They are the only population group to witness the living standards go down. Getting jobs and university places are getting increasingly difficult as a result of affirmative action. Trump is the voice of this marginalized group.

Today all groups in the US are marginalized.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on August 22, 2016, 11:52:39 AM
The real reason Trump and Clinton are running!


The Money That Is Sold Abroad Is You
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cd-SLRyuRq0/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=JZpH0a_3Vgu90yMNiBkBVx5RFCc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0)


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Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: jamcrypt on August 22, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 23, 2016, 12:21:31 AM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.

This is the simplest election ever.

Just pick the honest man.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on August 23, 2016, 12:28:35 AM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.

This is the simplest election ever.

Just pick the honest man.

Honest Abe Lincoln is not running.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 23, 2016, 12:31:51 AM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.

This is the simplest election ever.

Just pick the honest man.

Honest Abe Lincoln is not running.

Judge for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2YWHLxMYw


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on August 23, 2016, 01:39:36 AM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.

This is the simplest election ever.

Just pick the honest man.

Honest Abe Lincoln is not running.

Honest Abe wasn't really that honest. The Civil War was not about freeing the slaves. Rather, it was about not losing the tax money the Southern States paid government. It was also about extending slavery to as many Americans as possible, and placing them all under slavery to the government rather than to independent Southern businessmen.

If you are a citizen, you are a slave. Why not be a man or a woman, and let the government be your slave?

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Tyrantt on August 23, 2016, 04:15:21 AM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.

I'm not from US but if you ask me, I'd vote for Trump....


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 23, 2016, 01:48:59 PM
Trump is the safer candidate.
A lot of people votes for Hillary thinking she's a safe bet, non-disruptive. But she's not.

The open borders, radical-Muslim-inclusive policies of Hillary are nothing but disruptive.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: ImHacked on August 23, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
I would go for the outspoken one than the hypocrite.  Hillary very much know how to play in politics as she was on that like any years from now.  She knows how to do things and make look good and brainwashed people just my making a lot of promises.  Trump on the otherhand is very talkative but you will sense the honesty of every words he spoken.  He bravely tells all what he thinks on his mind baring his true intentions and true colors to the public.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 24, 2016, 04:14:53 PM
I would go for the outspoken one than the hypocrite.  Hillary very much know how to play in politics as she was on that like any years from now.  She knows how to do things and make look good and brainwashed people just my making a lot of promises.  Trump on the otherhand is very talkative but you will sense the honesty of every words he spoken.  He bravely tells all what he thinks on his mind baring his true intentions and true colors to the public.

Plus, a Trump presidency would be certainly quite interesting.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 24, 2016, 05:23:09 PM
Honest Abe wasn't really that honest. The Civil War was not about freeing the slaves. Rather, it was about not losing the tax money the Southern States paid government. It was also about extending slavery to as many Americans as possible, and placing them all under slavery to the government rather than to independent Southern businessmen.

If you are a citizen, you are a slave. Why not be a man or a woman, and let the government be your slave?

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There is something unique about history. It is written by the winners, such as Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant. Just accept it. Jefferson Davis and his confederate losers got destroyed by the Northerners. Had the Confederate states won the war, then what we read in the history textbooks would have been entirely different. 


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Xester on August 25, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
I am routing for Trump as I see that he is really seriois with his plans with his country.  Besides we knew from yhe very start that Clinton knows everything about politics.  And as always, I did not trust a real politician.  Unlike Trump who was before a citizen with business to manage.  Maybe he could manage also the situation of his country now.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Masha Sha on August 25, 2016, 05:25:00 PM
I am routing for Trump as I see that he is really seriois with his plans with his country.  Besides we knew from yhe very start that Clinton knows everything about politics.  And as always, I did not trust a real politician.  Unlike Trump who was before a citizen with business to manage.  Maybe he could manage also the situation of his country now.

If a student of Harvard who worked for a law firm and as a community organizer could do it... The duck is more than enough qualified. It's certainly the most qualified person since the era of the founders of America...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Gronthaing on August 25, 2016, 10:49:13 PM

Donald Trump vs Hillary Clinton (two ls)

It's a tie!

Donald Trump: 0
Hillary Clinton: 0

Not good if both of them will share one position. Let the vice presidential winner take over.

There's an open race now with 3 3rd party candidates.

True!

Dr. Jill Stein (Green Party ) has run before....and was arrested trying to enter the Presidential debate!!!

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/green_partys_jill_stein_cheri_honkala

Amazing resilience.

She's a primitivist though. I could never support that.

Are you sure? Do you have a source for that? Heard she made some comments about wi-fi. Something about it possibly affecting the brain and that she believed it needed to be studied better. But never heard her advocating we should give up technology and go back to preindustrial times or anything like that.


Title: Fractional Dead Men Voting Multiple Times in Many States...
Post by: BADecker on August 27, 2016, 07:59:11 AM
Fractional Dead Men Voting Multiple Times in Many States... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/202716-2016-08-26-fractional-dead-men-voting-multiple-times-in-many-states.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/522-0826144441-deadvoters1.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/202716-2016-08-26-fractional-dead-men-voting-multiple-times-in-many-states.htm)


These figures came from the Pew Center on the States study entitled "Inaccurate, Costly, and Inefficient: Evidence that America's Voter Registration System Needs an Upgrade" (2012).  These "glitches" were not removed from the system due to the Obama Department of Justice suspending the execution and enforcement of federal law in relation to the regulations governing elections.

The National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) of 1993, 52 USC is the law we're examining here, specifically Section 8 that is specifically designed to promote honest and fair voting in the elections.  Section 8 is a requirement for the states.  They are to do the following in accordance with the law:

"…conduct a general program that makes a reasonable effort to remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters."


Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/fractional-dead-men-voting-multiple-times-in-many-states-its-not-who-wins-the-ballots-but-those-who-count-the-ballots-that-decides-an-election_08252016. (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/fractional-dead-men-voting-multiple-times-in-many-states-its-not-who-wins-the-ballots-but-those-who-count-the-ballots-that-decides-an-election_08252016)


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Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 27, 2016, 10:13:03 PM
If Clinton becomes President a lot of people will die, If Trump gets his chance and does not take the wrong advice , he has to make sure his advisors are not of that ilk, you know the instigators and lobbyists for war, then he should be OK

As we have seen both of the Clintons history, not very good is it? or tell me I am wrong.
The choice is one and that that is to have Trump as president, if he does just 1 percent opposite of previous presidents, and honors his polices then the US is on to a winner, you just have to give him a chance, the difference could, and would effect the future of how other nations see American politicians as just warmongers.

Trump would surely change this attitude, especially in those people who endorse war and governmental changes in countries that have nothing to do with them.

Vote Trump please you decent people, I would if could.   


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on August 28, 2016, 12:18:35 AM
I am routing for Trump as I see that he is really seriois with his plans with his country.  Besides we knew from yhe very start that Clinton knows everything about politics.  And as always, I did not trust a real politician.  Unlike Trump who was before a citizen with business to manage.  Maybe he could manage also the situation of his country now.

If a student of Harvard who worked for a law firm and as a community organizer could do it... The duck is more than enough qualified. It's certainly the most qualified person since the era of the founders of America...

Just vote for the honest man.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 04:13:46 AM
If Clinton becomes President a lot of people will die, If Trump gets his chance and does not take the wrong advice , he has to make sure his advisors are not of that ilk, you know the instigators and lobbyists for war, then he should be OK

There are enough warmongers within the GOP. But the good thing is that most of them are RINOs, such as the homosexual senator from South Carolina, Lindsey Graham. Most of these guys are right now rooting for Hitlery Clinton. Trump, on the other hand has made it clear that he is against unnecessary foreign military intervention.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 29, 2016, 03:10:45 PM
Want a job from Clinton (https://denver.craigslist.org/search/jjj?query=hillary)

Pay is good, suitable for non thinking people.

I find this a disgusting way to move in politics, what has the world become, advertising for real life trolls.


Title: "Election Fraud Underway" - NBC Affiliate Posts "Election Results" For Florida R
Post by: BADecker on August 30, 2016, 04:53:57 AM
"Election Fraud Underway" - NBC Affiliate Posts "Election Results" For Florida R (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/202830-2016-08-29-election-fraud-underway-nbc-affiliate-posts-election-results-for-florida.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/533-0829184312-AA.png (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/202830-2016-08-29-election-fraud-underway-nbc-affiliate-posts-election-results-for-florida.htm)


Why do we need voters when it's far easier to just skip straight to the results?

The note from WPTV showed Laurel getting 12,189 votes or 45%.  Laurel posted the following comment to her facebook page in response to the erroneous report:

"Election fraud is already taking place here in Palm Beach County!  WPTV is posting election results, today, when the race is Tuesday! Please spread the word and contact everyone you know to vote Bennett on Tuesday! I have a snapshot of it! End corruption in Palm Beach! It begins with you, the voter!"

Accordig to Bizpac Review, the station claims they were just "testing their election page" in an effort to "bring you fast and accurate election results on election day."

"In order to make sure we bring you fast and accurate election results on election day, we are testing our election page ahead of time with test data.  On election day, this message will be removed and the actual election results will be displayed on this page."


Read more at http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-29/election-fraud-underway-nbc-affiliate-posts-election-results-florida-race-hasnt-happ. (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-29/election-fraud-underway-nbc-affiliate-posts-election-results-florida-race-hasnt-happ)


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Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on August 30, 2016, 09:06:52 PM
This should have its own thread , but I see the relevance here with Clinton.

The Broken Chessboard: Brzezinski Gives Up on Empire

Quote below is the end of the article, click the link for some surprising advice from Zbigniew Brzezinski .

In contrast, Clinton is still fully-committed to expanding US hegemony across Asia. She doesn’t understand the risks this poses for the country or the world. She’s going to persist with the interventions until the US war-making juggernaut is stopped dead-in-its-tracks which, judging by her hyperbolic rhetoric, will probably happen some time in her first term.    Brzezinski presents a rational but self-serving plan to climb-down, minimize future conflicts, avoid a nuclear conflagration and preserve the global order. (aka–The “dollar system”) But will bloodthirsty Hillary follow his advice?    Not a chance (http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/25/the-broken-chessboard-brzezinski-gives-up-on-empire/)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on August 30, 2016, 09:47:55 PM
This should have its own thread , but I see the relevance here with Clinton.

The Broken Chessboard: Brzezinski Gives Up on Empire

Quote below is the end of the article, click the link for some surprising advice from Zbigniew Brzezinski .

In contrast, Clinton is still fully-committed to expanding US hegemony across Asia. She doesn’t understand the risks this poses for the country or the world. She’s going to persist with the interventions until the US war-making juggernaut is stopped dead-in-its-tracks which, judging by her hyperbolic rhetoric, will probably happen some time in her first term.    Brzezinski presents a rational but self-serving plan to climb-down, minimize future conflicts, avoid a nuclear conflagration and preserve the global order. (aka–The “dollar system”) But will bloodthirsty Hillary follow his advice?    Not a chance (http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/25/the-broken-chessboard-brzezinski-gives-up-on-empire/)


The one-worlders don't have any choice. If they want to control the whole world, they have to move now. Why? Because Internet (communications), transportation, uncontrolled money movement (Bitcoin), and general trade between people of different nations, are making for freedom. If the one-worlders don't do it now, they will lose their chance for any foreseeable future.

If they can't solidify their control over the whole world right now, the closest that they might be able to come is to crash everything. At least then they can start picking up the pieces, although it might set them back a few hundred years.


As far as things go for average people, we seem to be coming close to breakthroughs that might allow us to live for several hundred years. If the breakthroughs don't come fast enough, or can't be sustained during a crash back into barbarism (nuclear winter), we are lost... personally I mean.

Be concerned. Do what you can. But don't go crazy trying to do what you can't about the situation. Relax and stop fretting.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 24, 2016, 09:11:08 PM
As a Room-Cleaning BOT, I want to ask the community:

https://i.imgur.com/eqfeK1A.png


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on September 24, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
As a Room-Cleaning BOT, I want to ask the community:

https://i.imgur.com/eqfeK1A.png

THE ANCIENT, cast aluminum Kirby always put more dirt into the room than it took out.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 24, 2016, 09:55:51 PM
As a Room-Cleaning BOT, I want to ask the community:

https://i.imgur.com/eqfeK1A.png

THE ANCIENT, cast aluminum Kirby [one] always put more dirt into the room than it took out.



And the other one is a vacuum cleaner!

Quote EDITED for humor.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 24, 2016, 10:10:40 PM

One of these is a POP CULTURE ICON!

The other one is a Troll.... 

Which one wears it better?

https://i.imgur.com/txPvMry.png


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 12:59:01 AM
Want a job from Clinton (https://denver.craigslist.org/search/jjj?query=hillary)

Pay is good, suitable for non thinking people.

I find this a disgusting way to move in politics, what has the world become, advertising for real life trolls.

DEBATE RULES: NO COUGHING BREAKS
**Exclusive**
Fri Sep 23 2016 11:30:40 ET



If presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton slips into a coughing fit or any other medical crisis during Monday's high-stakes debate, she will have to power through, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned!

"There are no commercial breaks," a commission source explains. "Period."

Debate moderator Lester Holt does not have the authority to cut away from the stage during the epic 90-minute showdown. And microphone audio for either of the candidates is not to be manipulated.

Clinton has experienced severe coughing episodes throughout the election year. During a Labor Day campaign stop she suffered a 4-minute choking marathon.

Monday's throwdown could top out at 100 million viewers, making it the biggest political event in history.

EDITOR'S NOTE: The presidential debate commission settled an early flashpoint when Clinton demanded a step-stool at the podium to add height to her 5'4" frame. Campaign Chairman John Podesta expressed concern that Hillary would be dwarfed by 6'2" Trump. The request was quickly rejected. The commission is allowing for a custom-made podium, which will accommodate the difference in stature.

http://www.drudgereport.com/ (http://www.drudgereport.com/)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Achargeturry78 on September 25, 2016, 02:09:10 AM
In my own opinion there is no qualified president candidates in US as of now. Because Trump is not like Duterte maybe his tough talk is there similarities but the big difference is Trump dont have experience unlike Duterte. Duterte is 23 years mayor (executive branch), a congressman(legislatiive branch) and a prosecutor (judiaciary branch). That there big differences. Clinton on the other hand is not qualified because she is pro on oligarch persons which are white persons. How about the black persons? What does she do them? So I doubt clinton because she can control oligarchs for there own interest. So think twice american people. Maybe you consider to extend the presidency of Obama in your country atleast 3-years. Wake up.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 02:14:10 AM
In my own opinion there is no qualified president candidates in US as of now. Because Trump is not like Duterte maybe his tough talk is there similarities but the big difference is Trump dont have experience unlike Duterte. Duterte is 23 years mayor (executive branch), a congressman(legislatiive branch) and a prosecutor (judiaciary branch). That there big differences. Clinton on the other hand is not qualified because she is pro on oligarch persons which are white persons. How about the black persons? What does she do them? So I doubt clinton because she can control oligarchs for there own interest. So think twice american people. Maybe you consider to extend the presidency of Obama in your country atleast 3-years. Wake up.

Wooo Hooo!

Agreed.

Except that Obama went Full Neo-Con and was a DISASTER,

Did he close Guantanamo Bay?

Did he bring ALL the troops home?

No, he actually deployed more troops -- to nearly every country in Africa, to name just one continent. 


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Achargeturry78 on September 25, 2016, 02:35:13 AM
In my own opinion there is no qualified president candidates in US as of now. Because Trump is not like Duterte maybe his tough talk is there similarities but the big difference is Trump dont have experience unlike Duterte. Duterte is 23 years mayor (executive branch), a congressman(legislatiive branch) and a prosecutor (judiaciary branch). That there big differences. Clinton on the other hand is not qualified because she is pro on oligarch persons which are white persons. How about the black persons? What does she do them? So I doubt clinton because she can control oligarchs for there own interest. So think twice american people. Maybe you consider to extend the presidency of Obama in your country atleast 3-years. Wake up.

Wooo Hooo!

Agreed.

Except that Obama went Full Neo-Con and was a DISASTER,

Did he close Guantanamo Bay?

Did he bring ALL the troops home?

No, he actually deployed more troops -- to nearly every country in Africa, to name just one continent. 
Yes I research the backgrounds of two candidates why does american people get many presidential candidates in your country maybe atleast 5 candidates so that you many options to lead you country for the better. If you have only 2 options. Jesus Christ its not democracy its a disaster. Democracy is all about freedom of choice many candidates many OPTIONS. Thats it.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 02:55:31 AM
In my own opinion there is no qualified president candidates in US as of now. Because Trump is not like Duterte maybe his tough talk is there similarities but the big difference is Trump dont have experience unlike Duterte. Duterte is 23 years mayor (executive branch), a congressman(legislatiive branch) and a prosecutor (judiaciary branch). That there big differences. Clinton on the other hand is not qualified because she is pro on oligarch persons which are white persons. How about the black persons? What does she do them? So I doubt clinton because she can control oligarchs for there own interest. So think twice american people. Maybe you consider to extend the presidency of Obama in your country atleast 3-years. Wake up.

Wooo Hooo!

Agreed.

Except that Obama went Full Neo-Con and was a DISASTER,

Did he close Guantanamo Bay?

Did he bring ALL the troops home?

No, he actually deployed more troops -- to nearly every country in Africa, to name just one continent.  
Yes I research the backgrounds of two candidates why does american people get many presidential candidates in your country maybe atleast 5 candidates so that you many options to lead you country for the better. If you have only 2 options. Jesus Christ its not democracy its a disaster. Democracy is all about freedom of choice many candidates many OPTIONS. Thats it.

ZOMG   ^^^^^  What he said.

We would need at least a dozen "3rd parties" to even pretend that we have candidates in parties who represent all The Peoples.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Zosuda on September 25, 2016, 09:24:11 AM

One of these is a POP CULTURE ICON!

The other one is a Troll.... 

Which one wears it better?

https://i.imgur.com/txPvMry.png

The troll suits the hair better, i think i still have a few of these trolls in a box somewhere lol


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bitjoin on September 25, 2016, 09:36:14 AM
That troll pic is very funny even the face looks a little like trump. 

Im getting more confident trump can win this thing looking at the betting markets coming down now in his favour and it makes you wonder how manipulated they are.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Hannu on September 25, 2016, 12:46:24 PM
Donald Trump! He is business man!  ;D


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on September 25, 2016, 03:22:00 PM

I'm hearing that the debate could be the most viewed event in U.S. history.  Bigger than the Superbowl.  That is interesting and good news.  Given that Hillary cannot seem to pull more than a few hundred to her rallies, it seems like the passion is quite one-sided.

The Clinton team had the bright Idea to sit a Trump annoyance (MarK Cuban) in the front row as one of their guests.  They (again) forgot that Trump is a counter-puncher and he dutifully invited one of Bill Clinton's lovers to do likewise.

I would make several suggestions to Ms. Flowers:

 1)  Wear diamonds.  BIG ones.  And ones which reflect light at certain targetted angles and frequencies.

 2)  Don't forget to hold your hand in a certain suggestive manner when you feel a need to cough...and feel the need regularly.  For reference, look up a Hillary interview from some years ago when the interviewer as broaching the subject of Bill Clinton.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: mindrust on September 25, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
Donald will Trump Killary's sorry ass in front of whole world. Hillari is just a mindless puppet who repeats the same meaningless words over and over again. There is absolutely "0" zero chance for Hillary to be elected.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T8tMk-ZOx8

Does she look healthy to you? She looks more like a crazy mad woman to me.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on September 25, 2016, 04:06:30 PM

I'm hearing that the debate could be the most viewed event in U.S. history.  Bigger than the Superbowl.  That is interesting and good news.  Given that Hillary cannot seem to pull more than a few hundred to her rallies, it seems like the passion is quite one-sided.

The Clinton team had the bright Idea to sit a Trump annoyance (MarK Cuban) in the front row as one of their guests.  They (again) forgot that Trump is a counter-puncher and he dutifully invited one of Bill Clinton's lovers to do likewise.

I would make several suggestions to Ms. Flowers:

 1)  Wear diamonds.  BIG ones.  And ones which reflect light at certain targetted angles and frequencies.

 2)  Don't forget to hold your hand in a certain suggestive manner when you feel a need to cough...and feel the need regularly.  For reference, look up a Hillary interview from some years ago when the interviewer as broaching the subject of Bill Clinton.



#1 is excellent.

Somehow I am tempted to suggest for Ms. Flowers, for whom I have the utmost respect.

A "Wardrobe Malfunction" would be priceless.





Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 25, 2016, 04:56:58 PM
I'm hearing that the debate could be the most viewed event in U.S. history.  Bigger than the Superbowl.  That is interesting and good news.  Given that Hillary cannot seem to pull more than a few hundred to her rallies, it seems like the passion is quite one-sided.

Hitlery has everything to lose, while Trump will be more relaxed. Trump had his fair share of verbal controversies, and even if he makes a controversial statement, his supporters will stood by him. On the other hand, if Hitlery behaves like a rabid dog during the debate, then her so called "college-educated" voters will desert her in droves.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 05:32:35 PM

The first debate will be SO DIRTY and DISGUSTING!

I can't wait.   ;D


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: PokemonFun on September 25, 2016, 05:33:55 PM
Donald Trump is better to save the world from Hilary Clinton dangerous policitcian strateg which want to destroy other countries in whole world.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 05:38:11 PM

Quite possibly true, but it's a low bar:

Hillary has an EPIC political resume -- but she used that experience to rape the world for her own material & political gain.

Trump has ZERO experience, but he is surrounding himself with the worst of the worst:  Chris Christie & Rudy Giuliani.

God what a choice.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 25, 2016, 05:46:06 PM

The first debate will be SO DIRTY and DISGUSTING!

I can't wait.   ;D

No one can wait! A lot of people (both Americans and non-Americans) are eagerly waiting for the debate. I am from South-east Asia, and I will be watching it on TV (hope that it will be aired live on CNN), and I have talked to a few of my friends and all of them will be watching as well. It will be epic 90 minutes! 31 hours and 15 minutes to go...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 06:07:37 PM

The first debate will be SO DIRTY and DISGUSTING!

I can't wait.   ;D

No one can wait! A lot of people (both Americans and non-Americans) are eagerly waiting for the debate. I am from South-east Asia, and I will be watching it on TV (hope that it will be aired live on CNN), and I have talked to a few of my friends and all of them will be watching as well. It will be epic 90 minutes! 31 hours and 15 minutes to go...

They are saying 90 minutes with NO BREAKS!

I hope Hillary has a giant colostomy bag & a bar-stool under that tent she wears!

Apparently she asked for a chair & was denied, but given an equalizing podium (she's 5'5" / He's 6'2") --  

Will she keel over?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on September 25, 2016, 06:32:03 PM
Global vote for the US presidency. With US forces deployed to 135 countries last year everyone wants their say

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780106262424027136

https://t.co/NYox0e6dLq

Only one fit the bill for me Trump


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 25, 2016, 06:36:05 PM
Global vote for the US presidency. With US forces deployed to 135 countries last year everyone wants their say

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/780106262424027136

https://t.co/NYox0e6dLq

Only one fit the bill for me Trump

BE on the look-out for Julian Assange's WIKILEAKS bombs from Hillary's emails.  :)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: googie4 on September 25, 2016, 11:12:31 PM
Hillary is too short to debate trump.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on September 26, 2016, 01:37:38 AM

The first debate will be SO DIRTY and DISGUSTING!

I can't wait.   ;D

No one can wait! A lot of people (both Americans and non-Americans) are eagerly waiting for the debate. I am from South-east Asia, and I will be watching it on TV (hope that it will be aired live on CNN), and I have talked to a few of my friends and all of them will be watching as well. It will be epic 90 minutes! 31 hours and 15 minutes to go...

They are saying 90 minutes with NO BREAKS!

I hope Hillary has a giant colostomy bag & a bar-stool under that tent she wears!

Apparently she asked for a chair & was denied, but given an equalizing podium (she's 5'5" / He's 6'2") --  

Will she keel over?
I would have given her a chair.

I would like her to be beaten fair and square, not to fall over.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on September 26, 2016, 02:12:50 AM

I would have given her a chair.

I would like her to be beaten fair and square, not to fall over.

I think that half way through the debate, and especially if it seems like the woman is having problems, Trump should magnanimously suggest that they might get a chair for Hillary so that she might be more comfortable and able to perform better.

In other news, it looks like the Flowers show is off :(  Maybe they could find body-doubles for some of the most notable of 'Bill's Bimbos' and dress them up decade appropriate fashion.  That would be a hoot, but I understand that Trump is wanting to be more 'presidential' these days,  Plus, there seems a fairly decent Trump will administer a brutal beat-down the old fashioned way without the fun and games.  We'll see how much Lester Hold is able to rescue the poor damsel in distress.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on September 26, 2016, 02:32:13 AM

I would have given her a chair.

I would like her to be beaten fair and square, not to fall over.

I think that half way through the debate, and especially if it seems like the woman is having problems, Trump should magnanimously suggest that they might get a chair for Hillary so that she might be more comfortable and able to perform better.

In other news, it looks like the Flowers show is off :(  Maybe they could find body-doubles for some of the most notable of 'Bill's Bimbos' and dress them up decade appropriate fashion.  That would be a hoot, but I understand that Trump is wanting to be more 'presidential' these days,  Plus, there seems a fairly decent Trump will administer a brutal beat-down the old fashioned way without the fun and games.  We'll see how much Lester Hold is able to rescue the poor damsel in distress.



Well, it could be argued, consideration is due for the handicapped.  Arguably, if she can't stand for 90 minutes, that's a handicap that should be allowed.

It won't make a bit of difference, except that if she was standing she'd have an excuse for losing.

Don't let her have that excuse.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 26, 2016, 10:17:20 AM
According to a poll by CNN/ORC, most Americans think that Hitlery will win the debate (53% to 43%).  ;D

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/08/politics/hillary-clinton-poll-debate-expectations/index.html

I beg to differ. That evil hag is going to get her ass handed to her by Donald Trump tomorrow. I am losing my patience... still some 15 hours remaining for the debate to start...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on September 26, 2016, 03:16:26 PM
...

In other news, it looks like the Flowers show is off :(  Maybe they could find body-doubles for some of the most notable of 'Bill's Bimbos' and dress them up decade appropriate fashion.  That would be a hoot, but I understand that Trump is wanting to be more 'presidential' these days,  Plus, there seems a fairly decent Trump will administer a brutal beat-down the old fashioned way without the fun and games.  We'll see how much Lester Hold is able to rescue the poor damsel in distress.

Well, it could be argued, consideration is due for the handicapped.  Arguably, if she can't stand for 90 minutes, that's a handicap that should be allowed.

It won't make a bit of difference, except that if she was standing she'd have an excuse for losing.

Don't let her have that excuse.

The best guest would be the woman who was the 12-year-old rape victim who Hillary, in her early legal career, slut-shamed in order to get her child rapist client off the hook.

This woman sitting in the front row and staring straight at Clinton for 90 minutes solid would be some kind of retribution 40 years after Hillary's early 'feminist' activities.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on September 26, 2016, 03:22:01 PM
According to a poll by CNN/ORC, most Americans think that Hitlery will win the debate (53% to 43%).  ;D

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/08/politics/hillary-clinton-poll-debate-expectations/index.html

I beg to differ. That evil hag is going to get her ass handed to her by Donald Trump tomorrow. I am losing my patience... still some 15 hours remaining for the debate to start...

I see the strategy, CNN to "Announce She Won." 

Regardless of any facts.

Yes, the fish rots from the head...


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Perle on September 26, 2016, 03:23:44 PM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. What you sow is what you rip.
The United States is faced with a choice between bad and very bad president. I wonder who will choose?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on September 26, 2016, 08:18:47 PM
...

In other news, it looks like the Flowers show is off :(  Maybe they could find body-doubles for some of the most notable of 'Bill's Bimbos' and dress them up decade appropriate fashion.  That would be a hoot, but I understand that Trump is wanting to be more 'presidential' these days,  Plus, there seems a fairly decent Trump will administer a brutal beat-down the old fashioned way without the fun and games.  We'll see how much Lester Hold is able to rescue the poor damsel in distress.

Well, it could be argued, consideration is due for the handicapped.  Arguably, if she can't stand for 90 minutes, that's a handicap that should be allowed.

It won't make a bit of difference, except that if she was standing she'd have an excuse for losing.

Don't let her have that excuse.

The best guest would be the woman who was the 12-year-old rape victim who Hillary, in her early legal career, slut-shamed in order to get her child rapist client off the hook.

This woman sitting in the front row and staring straight at Clinton for 90 minutes solid would be some kind of retribution 40 years after Hillary's early 'feminist' activities.



Here are two more you could put in the front row.  They have bitchboy hillary boy Mark Cuban
tar and feathered in five min.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjjQOz1HlVw


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on September 26, 2016, 11:28:41 PM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. What you sow is what you rip.



Ha!  You rip what you sew!

You reap what you sow.  :)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: birareru1988 on September 27, 2016, 03:41:36 PM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. What you sow is what you rip.
I agree. But the one who chooses the Americans will affect the whole world. And it can upset the balance and lead to war !


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 27, 2016, 04:45:19 PM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. What you sow is what you rip.
I agree. But the one who chooses the Americans will affect the whole world. And it can upset the balance and lead to war !

Even the pro-Hillary voters would agree that Trump is much more pacifist, when compared to Clinton. He has even announced that he will never use the "first-strike" option, as far as nuclear warfare is concerned. Trump as the POTUS will mean an end to Americans invading third world countries. On the other hand, Hitlery as the POTUS will almost certainly trigger a WW3.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on September 27, 2016, 04:57:25 PM
The most funny thing is both of the leaders who are directly or indirectly elected by the people of United states of America. There is nothing they can complain about. What you sow is what you rip.
I agree. But the one who chooses the Americans will affect the whole world. And it can upset the balance and lead to war !

Even the pro-Hillary voters would agree that Trump is much more pacifist, when compared to Clinton. He has even announced that he will never use the "first-strike" option, as far as nuclear warfare is concerned. Trump as the POTUS will mean an end to Americans invading third world countries. On the other hand, Hitlery as the POTUS will almost certainly trigger a WW3.

And the ignorant people of that fact^ will rue the day, that voting for Clinton has brought more death and destruction, more corruptness, more job losses.
More banking swindling, worse than that maybe, even a dollar crash.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Berns on September 27, 2016, 05:54:07 PM
I am not siding with either candidates.
I will move from the states by the time one of them take office. :-[
What are You going to do, trump will lead America to ruin? Now You can still leave, but then will be too late ! Or You are not interested in the fate of You and Your children?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: PokemonFun on October 10, 2016, 08:03:15 PM
donald trump will be always better than that corrupted girl hillary clinton


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: nikrobi on October 10, 2016, 08:49:14 PM
Go Trump, make America Great Again and the World Will be Better Again!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on October 10, 2016, 08:58:37 PM
I am not siding with either candidates.
I will move from the states by the time one of them take office. :-[
What are You going to do, trump will lead America to ruin? Now You can still leave, but then will be too late ! Or You are not interested in the fate of You and Your children?

OK then how will Clinton improve America compared to Trump and policies, Clinton is a liar, as if you did not know this.
Trump policies are so much better than the warmongering Clinton. her money backers are world renown for being corrupt.

Read up on Trumps future policies for the future https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies

Take some time to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyDSCKYz5sA&feature=youtu.be&t=800
You may learn something.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on October 10, 2016, 09:01:30 PM
Go Trump, make America Great Again and the World Will be Better Again!

Trump won't make the world better. He will just give us a breather. The best he might do is set the neocons and the Illuminati back a hundred years in their plans to take over the world.

8)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: PlanetOfBets on October 10, 2016, 10:16:05 PM
if i live in usa i will vote Trumps, these two candidate for president of the United States and is also good for the citizens with a platform on which the public, however select the appropriate vice president for the best selection, so it is waiting for the election results to select the people we know.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 11, 2016, 01:31:27 AM
if i live in usa i will vote Trumpss

He's not letting you in.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on October 11, 2016, 01:56:48 AM

if i live in usa i will vote Trumpss

He's not letting you in.

Actually, the kind of foreign person who would support Trump's America, or at least the picture he paints of it, may well be welcomed with open arms.

As a system analyst and strategist, I consider the U.S.'s best hope would be to create an environment which people would wish to live in, then selectively accept the most 'cream of the crop' from other nations.  This means liberty, fairness, opportunity, and rule of law.

My only qualm about this strategy are ethical;  it screws other nations and puts them at a perpetual disadvantage.  My hope would be that in order for the other nations to compete they would try to better their own country as well.  I admit that this hope is fairly pie-in-the-sky though.  If we really wanted to be good guys, we'd refuse to take good people from shitty countries with the hope that they would stay home and work on fixing their problems.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on October 11, 2016, 02:52:00 AM

if i live in usa i will vote Trumpss

He's not letting you in.

Actually, the kind of foreign person who would support Trump's America, or at least the picture he paints of it, may well be welcomed with open arms.

As a system analyst and strategist, I consider the U.S.'s best hope would be to create an environment which people would wish to live in, then selectively accept the most 'cream of the crop' from other nations.  This means liberty, fairness, opportunity, and rule of law.

My only qualm about this strategy are ethical;  it screws other nations and puts them at a perpetual disadvantage.  My hope would be that in order for the other nations to compete they would try to better their own country as well.  I admit that this hope is fairly pie-in-the-sky though.  If we really wanted to be good guys, we'd refuse to take good people from shitty countries with the hope that they would stay home and work on fixing their problems.



I only state this that I am about to state because Americans are ignorant of bottom-line law. I am kinda in favor of not having our nation overrun by a bunch of people from elsewhere. But, here it is.

Any foreigner who slips into America, and is caught by the authorities can do this. When he gets his day in court before they send him out of the country, he can file a common law claim as a man, against the man or woman who is not allowing him free travel in America. If he knows English well enough to do this, the jury just might award him freedom to remain.

8)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on October 11, 2016, 03:36:47 AM

if i live in usa i will vote Trumpss

He's not letting you in.

Actually, the kind of foreign person who would support Trump's America, or at least the picture he paints of it, may well be welcomed with open arms.

As a system analyst and strategist, I consider the U.S.'s best hope would be to create an environment which people would wish to live in, then selectively accept the most 'cream of the crop' from other nations.  This means liberty, fairness, opportunity, and rule of law.

My only qualm about this strategy are ethical;  it screws other nations and puts them at a perpetual disadvantage.  My hope would be that in order for the other nations to compete they would try to better their own country as well.  I admit that this hope is fairly pie-in-the-sky though.  If we really wanted to be good guys, we'd refuse to take good people from shitty countries with the hope that they would stay home and work on fixing their problems.

I only state this that I am about to state because Americans are ignorant of bottom-line law. I am kinda in favor of not having our nation overrun by a bunch of people from elsewhere. But, here it is.

Any foreigner who slips into America, and is caught by the authorities can do this. When he gets his day in court before they send him out of the country, he can file a common law claim as a man, against the man or woman who is not allowing him free travel in America. If he knows English well enough to do this, the jury just might award him freedom to remain.

8)

To a degree my views are shaped by working in environments where probably half of my peers were H1B.  They did a huge amount for the industry and the country (to the extent that our work was not net negative and history is yet to be written on that one...one way all of us working on our tasks were at least neutral.)

Actually, my experiences in school and simply just personal philosophy and study of history led me to my way of thinking before I worked in the tech industry.  My experiences there simply solidified up my views.

To me 'American' is a mindset, and the best proxy for it is outlined in our constitution.  Even now, 240-ish years and much gorp/gov abuse later, that still holds.  That is why I say that there are a lot highly 'American' people have never been to our country and may not have even considered it.  Unlike the above (scrape other nations for talent), this construct is a fairly recent invention of mine.

I've never been much of a patriot of flag waver and only fairly recently started to appreciate certain of the positives of the country as I study things more.  Now I am quite interested to retain hold on what we have left and hopefully claw back some of what we've lost.  Immigration could help a bunch or hurt a bunch depending on who is implementing it.  It could be the case that so many native born Americans are so brainwashed and fucked up that immigrants are actually our only hope.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on October 11, 2016, 04:57:41 AM

if i live in usa i will vote Trumpss

He's not letting you in.

Actually, the kind of foreign person who would support Trump's America, or at least the picture he paints of it, may well be welcomed with open arms.

As a system analyst and strategist, I consider the U.S.'s best hope would be to create an environment which people would wish to live in, then selectively accept the most 'cream of the crop' from other nations.  This means liberty, fairness, opportunity, and rule of law.

My only qualm about this strategy are ethical;  it screws other nations and puts them at a perpetual disadvantage.  My hope would be that in order for the other nations to compete they would try to better their own country as well.  I admit that this hope is fairly pie-in-the-sky though.  If we really wanted to be good guys, we'd refuse to take good people from shitty countries with the hope that they would stay home and work on fixing their problems.

I only state this that I am about to state because Americans are ignorant of bottom-line law. I am kinda in favor of not having our nation overrun by a bunch of people from elsewhere. But, here it is.

Any foreigner who slips into America, and is caught by the authorities can do this. When he gets his day in court before they send him out of the country, he can file a common law claim as a man, against the man or woman who is not allowing him free travel in America. If he knows English well enough to do this, the jury just might award him freedom to remain.

8)

To a degree my views are shaped by working in environments where probably half of my peers were H1B.  They did a huge amount for the industry and the country (to the extent that our work was not net negative and history is yet to be written on that one...one way all of us working on our tasks were at least neutral.)

Actually, my experiences in school and simply just personal philosophy and study of history led me to my way of thinking before I worked in the tech industry.  My experiences there simply solidified up my views.

To me 'American' is a mindset, and the best proxy for it is outlined in our constitution.  Even now, 240-ish years and much gorp/gov abuse later, that still holds.  That is why I say that there are a lot highly 'American' people have never been to our country and may not have even considered it.  Unlike the above (scrape other nations for talent), this construct is a fairly recent invention of mine.

I've never been much of a patriot of flag waver and only fairly recently started to appreciate certain of the positives of the country as I study things more.  Now I am quite interested to retain hold on what we have left and hopefully claw back some of what we've lost.  Immigration could help a bunch or hurt a bunch depending on who is implementing it.  It could be the case that so many native born Americans are so brainwashed and fucked up that immigrants are actually our only hope.



The Constitution is structure and instruction for government. It isn't for the people.

The Bill of Rights is clarification for how the government is to keep hands off the people. Even the Bill of Rights isn't for the people.

Everything and anything else is for the people to do, as long as they don't hurt their fellow people. It's called freedom, or liberty.

8)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: EnacDomains on October 11, 2016, 09:26:15 PM
Do you really believe that you matter?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 27, 2016, 11:08:01 PM
Anonymous posted this on Twitter tonight:

HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN CONNECTED TO REGISTERED FOREIGN AGENT OF SAUDI ARABIA:

https://t.co/iBg2Hq2QaM (https://t.co/iBg2Hq2QaM)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: ovvidiy on October 28, 2016, 01:34:39 PM
And that an agent of the Kremlin Trump is better? Putin's supporters will never win in America. In General, such people have no place in a democratic society.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 28, 2016, 10:12:13 PM
No, that is not better, but why compare apples & oranges?

Both Presidential candidates are crooks and sociopaths...

NEW FBI investigation into Shillary's emails announced today.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: LTU_btc on October 28, 2016, 11:20:50 PM
And that an agent of the Kremlin Trump is better? Putin's supporters will never win in America. In General, such people have no place in a democratic society.
If such people don't have place in a democratic society, how he can be candidate to president of most powerful country of world? I don't like Trump and can't imagine him as president of USA (I have same opinion about Hillary).


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 28, 2016, 11:30:26 PM

ALL people have a place in a democracy. 

Theoretically. 

Except for "third parties."  ;D

Those two candidates, however, are not fit to lead.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: 4x4et on October 28, 2016, 11:38:37 PM
Trump all the way.

Not because he is ideal. It's because that psychopath who competes against him.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 29, 2016, 02:44:54 AM
Trump all the way.

Not because he is ideal. It's because that psychopath who competes against him.

I would chose Trump, as the candidate is almost certain to start WW3. Hitlery has already made it clear that she is going to establish a no-fly zone over Syria. Further, she has said that she will shoot down any Russian planes which violate this no-fly zone. Who gave her the permission to set up a no-fly zone in Syria? She can set up one in the US if she want.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 29, 2016, 02:57:35 AM

Trump could simply build a wall around her to MAGA.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: quentincole32 on October 29, 2016, 06:39:40 AM

ALL people have a place in a democracy. 

Theoretically. 

Except for "third parties."  ;D

Those two candidates, however, are not fit to lead.
both have distinctive styles of leadership but yeah both are not fit to lead big nation such united states. both disliked, but who can do the job? people choosing the candidate would feel like there's no other choice , so just pick a random president :D between them on 8th Nov.

note : trump will never be able to become a president , it's a serious job , not marketing or promotion trump is just an artist.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Oppolee on October 29, 2016, 03:06:01 PM
I also don't like the selection this time, but Hillary is preferable for me. Though she is not to flirt with Russia. I think that Russia behaves due to the fact that we have not had a strong President.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on October 29, 2016, 03:10:02 PM
I also don't like the selection this time, but Hillary is preferable for me. Though she is not to flirt with Russia. I think that Russia behaves due to the fact that we have not had a strong President.

Not a strong president like Putin, you would rather vote for a corrupt Clinton.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 29, 2016, 03:12:57 PM

US Americans need to vote THIRD PARTY now --  to prevent this mess in the future!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on October 29, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
I also don't like the selection this time, but Hillary is preferable for me. Though she is not to flirt with Russia. I think that Russia behaves due to the fact that we have not had a strong President.

Not a strong president like Putin, you would rather vote for a corrupt Clinton.

Communism failed. The USSR fell. But many of the nations that were formerly of the USSR still wanted Communism. So, how to make Communism strong? Deception. Look like a free nation. Then when people are on your side, use their ignorant, free-looking vote to take over the world. Then reveal the communism, when people can do nothing about it.

This is what Putin is attempting to do. Make the world into communism through deception.

8)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: mindrust on October 29, 2016, 03:29:14 PM
Have you ever thought why Donald Trump wants to build a wall on the Mexican border?

No, it is not just because they send scum to the US. It is also because Hillary is being supported by druglords.

Take a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV_PLCC6jeI


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 29, 2016, 03:35:52 PM

Maybe so....but.... Can Trump build a wall around the Illuminati & the NWO?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Dizaster2015 on October 29, 2016, 03:38:12 PM
America is a country built by immigrants. To deal with this is not correct. After all, if Mexicans are working in America it means someone needs. Or Trump will work for them.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 29, 2016, 03:40:49 PM

That's right!
Not only was our country built by immigrants, including forced immigrants --- SLAVES ---, they were given the thankless jobs that no free person wanted to do.
The same is true today.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: pseexh on October 29, 2016, 07:16:10 PM
I agree. Maybe Trump wanted to destroy America? Other arguments I don't know. I already voted for Hillary. But I'm not happy.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: vantyzz on October 29, 2016, 08:04:41 PM
And I do not go to the polls. I have no need. I certainly understand that any one of them will be President but I'm not going to participate.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 29, 2016, 09:40:58 PM

VOTE 3RD PARTY now -- for the future, since we're totally screwed by the "2-Party System" this year!



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on October 30, 2016, 02:39:08 AM

VOTE 3RD PARTY now -- for the future, since we're totally screwed by the "2-Party System" this year!

Trump is hated by the establishment Republicans as much as by any group, and they have done amazing things to try to torpedo his candidacy.

A vote for Trump is the biggest rejection of the "2-Party System" that I can think of since Perot...and bigger than that.  Perot was unprepared for the heat.  Trump seems to be as best I can determine.

I'll say again, the Trump phenomenon seems to have the potential to turn the Republican party into something worth supporting for the first time in half a century or more.  If we can 'embrace' the self-segregation of the douche-bag neo-cons and the kept stable workhorses (Bushes, Ryan, McConnell, etc) then this might actually come to pass.  In association with the utter kernel-level corruption of the Dems a fair number of good people might make the switch.  Flynn is a great example of this.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BADecker on October 30, 2016, 02:48:56 AM
A Vote For Hillary is a Vote For World War 3 (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/206103-2016-10-29-a-vote-for-hillary-is-a-vote-for-world-war.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/533-1029121706-AA.png (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/206103-2016-10-29-a-vote-for-hillary-is-a-vote-for-world-war.htm)


A Vote For Hillary is a Vote For World War 3
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/w9nt9xMNniY/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=vwS-sxElLxX5Wi5Mb58QpJJQKsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9nt9xMNniY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9nt9xMNniY)


Read about it at http://www.prisonplanet.com/a-vote-for-hillary-is-a-vote-for-world-war-3.html.


8)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: crockoo on October 30, 2016, 12:21:12 PM
The third world war will happen if Putin is not stopped. This can be done only Hillary. I will vote for her. Tramp crazy as to vote for him?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: castew on October 30, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
Hillary is our only hope if trump gets elected God help our world because we are doomed


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Antoshka on October 30, 2016, 06:17:35 PM
I'm sure that Hillary will win. Trump can't be President of America. I hope the Americans have figured out who he is.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on October 30, 2016, 06:40:29 PM

VOTE 3RD PARTY now -- for the future, since we're totally screwed by the "2-Party System" this year!

Trump is hated by the establishment Republicans as much as by any group, and they have done amazing things to try to torpedo his candidacy.

A vote for Trump is the biggest rejection of the "2-Party System" that I can think of since Perot...and bigger than that.  Perot was unprepared for the heat.  Trump seems to be as best I can determine.

I'll say again, the Trump phenomenon seems to have the potential to turn the Republican party into something worth supporting for the first time in half a century or more.  If we can 'embrace' the self-segregation of the douche-bag neo-cons and the kept stable workhorses (Bushes, Ryan, McConnell, etc) then this might actually come to pass.  In association with the utter kernel-level corruption of the Dems a fair number of good people might make the switch.  Flynn is a great example of this.


I agree with this but it's likely a bit too far reaching for people to comprehend.  After a year of Trumpian style leadership, however...

They'd be laughing at the old con games they fell for...

Honestly, I think that's true for both "parties." 

Meanwhile, looking at the above 3 posts, seems like some of the paid Hitlery Trolls that got run out of Reddit are perching here for a while.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on October 30, 2016, 07:18:49 PM

VOTE 3RD PARTY now -- for the future, since we're totally screwed by the "2-Party System" this year!

Trump is hated by the establishment Republicans as much as by any group, and they have done amazing things to try to torpedo his candidacy.

A vote for Trump is the biggest rejection of the "2-Party System" that I can think of since Perot...and bigger than that.  Perot was unprepared for the heat.  Trump seems to be as best I can determine.

I'll say again, the Trump phenomenon seems to have the potential to turn the Republican party into something worth supporting for the first time in half a century or more.  If we can 'embrace' the self-segregation of the douche-bag neo-cons and the kept stable workhorses (Bushes, Ryan, McConnell, etc) then this might actually come to pass.  In association with the utter kernel-level corruption of the Dems a fair number of good people might make the switch.  Flynn is a great example of this.
I agree with this but it's likely a bit too far reaching for people to comprehend.  After a year of Trumpian style leadership, however...

They'd be laughing at the old con games they fell for...

Honestly, I think that's true for both "parties."

The idea that Trump might be a fraud has gnawed at me from (my own) day one and continues to be a source of angst.  The sentiment driving Brexit and Trump should have easily been picked up by the Bayesian belief networks.  If they were, the natural response would be to create a Trump-ish character.

('Bayesian belief networks' and 'rational agents' are described in minor detail in the interesting new documentary called 'HyperNormalisation' which I recommend to interested parties with an analytical bent.)

As I've mentioned before, the establishment resistance against Trump and the desperation to get Hillary installed, even for a few days, is building my confidence in the guy.  Maybe he pretended early on that he would play ball and may in fact stab them in the back and they got suspicious about this.  Who knows.  In any event, the mainstream media conglomerate has been decimated (in terms of credibiity.)  If/when their lease on life is extended by criminalizing alternate media competition, they will be less effective then Provda ever was even near the end.

As is almost always the case, we'll only really know the answers until after the fact.  Kinda like the now popular and completely ridiculous 'we have to pass the bill to see what is in it' I suppose.


Meanwhile, looking at the above 3 posts, seems like some of the paid Hitlery Trolls that got run out of Reddit are perching here for a while.

I've started using the ignore feature here for the first time in half a decade.  These are either primitive bots which don't really even qualify as AI, or very pathetic sock-puppets trying to use the board as free advertising.  This zombie army seems to take two sides of a given issue (Trump vs. Hillary, 2nd amendment, 9/11, global warming, etc.)  Thankfully they are at this point fairly easy to spot but unfortunately that won't always be the case.  For now we can focus on identifying the higher budget flesh containing agents working multiple projects from a set of playbooks...and maybe occasionally striking out on their own because of their innate human weaknesses ;)



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on October 31, 2016, 01:02:32 AM

VOTE 3RD PARTY now -- for the future, since we're totally screwed by the "2-Party System" this year!

Trump is hated by the establishment Republicans as much as by any group, and they have done amazing things to try to torpedo his candidacy.

A vote for Trump is the biggest rejection of the "2-Party System" that I can think of since Perot...and bigger than that.  Perot was unprepared for the heat.  Trump seems to be as best I can determine.

I'll say again, the Trump phenomenon seems to have the potential to turn the Republican party into something worth supporting for the first time in half a century or more.  If we can 'embrace' the self-segregation of the douche-bag neo-cons and the kept stable workhorses (Bushes, Ryan, McConnell, etc) then this might actually come to pass.  In association with the utter kernel-level corruption of the Dems a fair number of good people might make the switch.  Flynn is a great example of this.
I agree with this but it's likely a bit too far reaching for people to comprehend.  After a year of Trumpian style leadership, however...

They'd be laughing at the old con games they fell for...

Honestly, I think that's true for both "parties."

The idea that Trump might be a fraud has gnawed at me from (my own) day one and continues to be a source of angst.  The sentiment driving Brexit and Trump should have easily been picked up by the Bayesian belief networks.  If they were, the natural response would be to create a Trump-ish character.

('Bayesian belief networks' and 'rational agents' are described in minor detail in the interesting new documentary called 'HyperNormalisation' which I recommend to interested parties with an analytical bent.)

As I've mentioned before, the establishment resistance against Trump and the desperation to get Hillary installed, even for a few days, is building my confidence in the guy.  Maybe he pretended early on that he would play ball and may in fact stab them in the back and they got suspicious about this.  Who knows.  In any event, the mainstream media conglomerate has been decimated (in terms of credibiity.)  If/when their lease on life is extended by criminalizing alternate media competition, they will be less effective then Provda ever was even near the end.

As is almost always the case, we'll only really know the answers until after the fact.  Kinda like the now popular and completely ridiculous 'we have to pass the bill to see what is in it' I suppose.


Meanwhile, looking at the above 3 posts, seems like some of the paid Hitlery Trolls that got run out of Reddit are perching here for a while.

I've started using the ignore feature here for the first time in half a decade.  These are either primitive bots which don't really even qualify as AI, or very pathetic sock-puppets trying to use the board as free advertising.  This zombie army seems to take two sides of a given issue (Trump vs. Hillary, 2nd amendment, 9/11, global warming, etc.)  Thankfully they are at this point fairly easy to spot but unfortunately that won't always be the case.  For now we can focus on identifying the higher budget flesh containing agents working multiple projects from a set of playbooks...and maybe occasionally striking out on their own because of their innate human weaknesses ;)


Actually, you do have to vote Hillary in to see what you got.

Just like you had to vote Obama in to see what you got.

Now Mr. Trump, what you see is what you get.

Trump vs. Clinton.

Why not just vote for the honest one of the two?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 31, 2016, 01:10:48 AM
Quote
Why not just vote for the honest one of the two?

Because there isn't one!!!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on October 31, 2016, 01:28:21 AM
Actually, you do have to vote Hillary in to see what you got.

Just like you had to vote Obama in to see what you got.

Now Mr. Trump, what you see is what you get.

Trump vs. Clinton.

Why not just vote for the honest one of the two?

I'll not make a final judgement until I have enough information to feel confident in doing so.  The most distructive thing one can own is a crystal ball because such a thing does not exist.

There is, by my estimation about a 0.001% chance that Hillary Clinton will find some reason within herself to do the right thing by the nation and by humanity.

My calculations for Trump being 'for real' now exceed the 50.0% chance.  Again, the elevation is based very much on the depth and breadth of the attacks against him.

The odds make it perfectly obvious which way to vote.  More importantly, that it is actually worth voting.  Donald Trump seems to be a candidate that I never expected to see in a final, and didn't really think possible at this phase.  Or he is a fraud.  One way or another, for the first time in a long time I feel that voting for POTUS is actually a meaningful thing.  As such, if the election is stolen it will be a theft against me personally of something I actually care about.  And I hate being stolen from, especially if the thief is a powerful entity.  Really pisses me off.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on October 31, 2016, 01:39:07 AM
Quote
Why not just vote for the honest one of the two?

Because there isn't one!!!
Somehow I doubt that.

I am not really sure I could prove it, and it could be said, that no person is perfect, or perfectly honest, and certainly Trump is not perfect.  Neither does he pretend to be.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on October 31, 2016, 03:44:28 AM
I really don't want to pick a fight with you @Spendulus, but Trump has been caught lying --  and contradicting himself -- throughout the campaign, especially over his great respect for nasty women!   ;D


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on November 01, 2016, 03:01:27 AM
I really don't want to pick a fight with you @Spendulus, but Trump has been caught lying --  and contradicting himself -- throughout the campaign, especially over his great respect for nasty women!   ;D

Hmmm.....

Well, I'm going to cut anyone a break for lying about those great nasty women.  Only the really great ones, mind you.  The ones that take three beers to tell the story of.

Including Bill Clinton.

Not gonna cut anyone a break for lying about national security matters, or Bengazi, or a number of things of that nature.  Lying right out in the open, to you and me.  Doing a very poor job of it, one a child can see through. 

That's the Hitlery.




Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 01, 2016, 03:58:08 AM
Agreed! 

& if you want to rant about HillBilly, I can join you there and add a few pages

a la Clinton Cash & Hillary: the movie, just for starters.

My personal peeves include her orchestrating attacks against Bernie & clearly cheating in 2 recent debates.

https://i.imgur.com/ZMFBS0C.jpg?1



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: 4x4et on November 01, 2016, 07:44:00 AM
The third world war will happen if Putin is not stopped. This can be done only Hillary. I will vote for her. Tramp crazy as to vote for him?

Looooooooooooooool

Stopped from what?

Imagine Rusia have their military bases in Mexico and Canada.

USA have surrounded Russia for no reason, thousands of miles away for home, they created ISIS just to sell weapons so they could help their economy, and you think Russia is the problem?

Watch less CNN and other garbage TV.

Your crazy grandma Hillary is ready for mental institution.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on November 01, 2016, 12:06:55 PM
The third world war will happen if Putin is not stopped. This can be done only Hillary. I will vote for her. Tramp crazy as to vote for him?

Looooooooooooooool

Stopped from what?

Imagine Rusia have their military bases in Mexico and Canada.

USA have surrounded Russia for no reason, thousands of miles away for home, they created ISIS just to sell weapons so they could help their economy, and you think Russia is the problem?

Watch less CNN and other garbage TV.

Your crazy grandma Hillary is ready for mental institution.

True.  Russia is not "the problem."

Trying to raise the old cold war enemy, Russia...it just isn't gonna work.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: BillyBobZorton on November 01, 2016, 03:36:08 PM
I was convinced that Trump would lose against Hillary after the 3 debates, but right now im not sure anymore... the email leaks don't stop coming, and the polls are looking real tight, we'll see.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on November 01, 2016, 09:40:57 PM
The third world war will happen if Putin is not stopped. This can be done only Hillary. I will vote for her. Tramp crazy as to vote for him?

Looooooooooooooool

Stopped from what?

Imagine Rusia have their military bases in Mexico and Canada.

USA have surrounded Russia for no reason, thousands of miles away for home, they created ISIS just to sell weapons so they could help their economy, and you think Russia is the problem?

Watch less CNN and other garbage TV.

Your crazy grandma Hillary is ready for mental institution.


Of course, that's why she is so at home in Washington DC.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: monbux on November 01, 2016, 11:24:01 PM
I was convinced that Trump would lose against Hillary after the 3 debates, but right now im not sure anymore... the email leaks don't stop coming, and the polls are looking real tight, we'll see.
The debates were cringe-y at best.  Just 2 grown-ass adults bickering and name calling and insulting each other.  One of them should have used their brain and just PRETENDED to be the more sensible one... Would have made them look a whole lot better.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Goldman Enterprises on November 02, 2016, 02:08:46 AM
I think it would be an interesting social experiment if Trump won the election ;D . Clinton would just be the same old same old rubbish we get.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 02, 2016, 03:06:08 AM
I think it would be an interesting social experiment if Trump won the election ;D . Clinton would just be the same old same old rubbish we get.

She would be worse, much worse.

She has not taken a stand against Monsanto.

She has not promised to bring home our troops.

She has not promised to close Guantanamo Bay.

Obama ran on these promises-- and didn't even keep them.  SMH   :'(

She is a very dangerous globalist.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: clickerz on November 02, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
I was convinced that Trump would lose against Hillary after the 3 debates, but right now im not sure anymore... the email leaks don't stop coming, and the polls are looking real tight, we'll see.

Trump is making noise,as always while Hillary is kind of a decent candidate.It is a tight race between them as there are more election issues that coming out,more disinformation also.An educated voter is a must,to discern those issues and unmask the incompetent one.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Caladonian on November 02, 2016, 06:49:56 AM
I was convinced that Trump would lose against Hillary after the 3 debates, but right now im not sure anymore... the email leaks don't stop coming, and the polls are looking real tight, we'll see.

Trump is making noise,as always while Hillary is kind of a decent candidate.It is a tight race between them as there are more election issues that coming out,more disinformation also.An educated voter is a must,to discern those issues and unmask the incompetent one.
Lets wait and see the result i know both candidates have their own issue and its depend on the voters perception to choose who's going to support we are all praying for what is the best and who will be elected whoever wins hope america will still stay strong.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: dawnasor on November 02, 2016, 06:50:58 AM
This two presidential candidate have a good  platform for the USA  and the citizens too but the people choose the best one that fit to become president so we wait the election result to know the people choice.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: DonValenteeno on November 04, 2016, 01:56:34 PM
This two presidential candidate have a good  platform for the USA  and the citizens too but the people choose the best one that fit to become president so we wait the election result to know the people choice.

Oh, here's the deal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dPNQaWeiIE


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Slow death on November 04, 2016, 03:17:16 PM
Hillary is our only hope if trump gets elected God help our world because we are doomed

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/5b/d6/6d5bd650a6ce92222cfd8054192455cc.jpg

Hillary shows if someone cynical, I do not live in the USA, but someone from the Third World like me I can see that many news channels are manipulated to be against trump.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: LLec on November 04, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
It seems that only the woman in the Americas are going crazy the way this election is going or those that don't have balls (weak men or gay men that don't have logic to begin with /they follow women's ways aways, so that say it all. ::)).
Men (real men) don't sweat it because they don't care about if the world existence being in perfect order to the way they want it. Understand this WOMEN: The world does not work that way!
Get it through your empty heads you half wit wonders (atleast to your own closed perception of the how the real world is :P )!


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 04, 2016, 10:02:23 PM
Hillary is our only hope if trump gets elected God help our world because we are doomed

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/5b/d6/6d5bd650a6ce92222cfd8054192455cc.jpg

Hillary shows if someone cynical, I do not live in the USA, but someone from the Third World like me I can see that many news channels are manipulated to be against trump.



On the other hand, Trump is our only hope if Hillary gets elected.  He will hold her crooked feet to the fire, we hope!  Cuz no one else has the guts to, besides Bernie.

I hope he goes after her 10X what he did to Obama.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Dmitry.Vastov on November 05, 2016, 01:04:12 AM
Hillary is our only hope if trump gets elected God help our world because we are doomed

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/6d/5b/d6/6d5bd650a6ce92222cfd8054192455cc.jpg

Hillary shows if someone cynical, I do not live in the USA, but someone from the Third World like me I can see that many news channels are manipulated to be against trump.



On the other hand, Trump is our only hope if Hillary gets elected.  He will hold her crooked feet to the fire, we hope!  Cuz no one else has the guts to, besides Bernie.

I hope he goes after her 10X what he did to Obama.
Yeah according to the survey CLINTON is want the people vote but for me Trump is a have good platform and agenda than Clinton.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: ISOKID on November 05, 2016, 04:43:43 AM
Presidential Candidate fierce feud between Donald Trump United States and Hillary Clinton. Hillary with her partner Tim Kaine criticized Trump is a man who is not credible and unfair to immigrants, Donald Trump chose Mike Pence as his running mate.
I think they both have strong advocates for both of them. :D


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: slaz26 on November 05, 2016, 03:50:51 PM
Presidential Candidate fierce feud between Donald Trump United States and Hillary Clinton. Hillary with her partner Tim Kaine criticized Trump is a man who is not credible and unfair to immigrants, Donald Trump chose Mike Pence as his running mate.
I think they both have strong advocates for both of them. :D

I'm sure that they both have a lot of support. And we need this support is unknown. One can only hope that the president would be a worthy candidate


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 05, 2016, 06:38:08 PM
whoever wins hope america will still stay strong.

Not very sure about that. This time, it is going to get really ugly. If it is a very close election, there will be vote rigging allegations and things may get violent. If Hitlery wins by a whisker, then the rural militias are not going to sit back and allow her to assume the post. There will be a lot of violence. Similarly, if Trump wins a close race, then there will be riots in the inner cities.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 05, 2016, 08:30:29 PM
Convictions ruin Christie's campaign plans:

The N.J. governor was set to campaign for Trump this weekend, but some of his appearances have reportedly been canceled.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bridgegate-convictions-reportedly-ruin-chris-christies-plans-to-campaign-for-donald-trump-233320341.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/bridgegate-convictions-reportedly-ruin-chris-christies-plans-to-campaign-for-donald-trump-233320341.html)

#BridgeGate


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Tyrantt on November 05, 2016, 09:35:51 PM
whoever wins hope america will still stay strong.

Not very sure about that. This time, it is going to get really ugly. If it is a very close election, there will be vote rigging allegations and things may get violent. If Hitlery wins by a whisker, then the rural militias are not going to sit back and allow her to assume the post. There will be a lot of violence. Similarly, if Trump wins a close race, then there will be riots in the inner cities.

The only ones who will riot if God Emperor wins are dindus, sjw and daddy issues.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 06, 2016, 05:11:05 PM
WHOA! Hillary Caught On Hot Mic Trashing Beyonce’ With RACIAL SLURS!

A reporter from the local Parma Gazette found out from a sound tech that Clinton’s lapel mic was hot and all of the staff were listening when she said:

“I’m grateful, but do we really need to listen to this ghetto trash music? Doesn’t she have something a little less…negro?”

http://thelastlineofdefense.org/woah-hillary-caught-on-hot-mic-trashing-beyonce-with-racial-slurs/ (http://thelastlineofdefense.org/woah-hillary-caught-on-hot-mic-trashing-beyonce-with-racial-slurs/)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on November 06, 2016, 05:24:22 PM
WHOA! Hillary Caught On Hot Mic Trashing Beyonce’ With RACIAL SLURS!

A reporter from the local Parma Gazette found out from a sound tech that Clinton’s lapel mic was hot and all of the staff were listening when she said:

“I’m grateful, but do we really need to listen to this ghetto trash music? Doesn’t she have something a little less…negro?”

http://thelastlineofdefense.org/woah-hillary-caught-on-hot-mic-trashing-beyonce-with-racial-slurs/ (http://thelastlineofdefense.org/woah-hillary-caught-on-hot-mic-trashing-beyonce-with-racial-slurs/)

And here was me thinking. how terrible these so called idols "why are they supporting such a bad woman" Then Clinton supposedly says this.
Supposed, as in no audio available.
Well, I call trash report on this website, but it may be something Clinton would say indeed.

Whatever the people who support Clinton, these stars are looking out for themselves, I doubt very much that they have any real political views, as long as the money keeps coming in they would support anyone.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 06, 2016, 05:29:25 PM
WHOA! Hillary Caught On Hot Mic Trashing Beyonce’ With RACIAL SLURS!

A reporter from the local Parma Gazette found out from a sound tech that Clinton’s lapel mic was hot and all of the staff were listening when she said:

“I’m grateful, but do we really need to listen to this ghetto trash music? Doesn’t she have something a little less…negro?”

http://thelastlineofdefense.org/woah-hillary-caught-on-hot-mic-trashing-beyonce-with-racial-slurs/ (http://thelastlineofdefense.org/woah-hillary-caught-on-hot-mic-trashing-beyonce-with-racial-slurs/)

And here was me thinking. how terrible these so called idols "why are they supporting such a bad woman" Then Clinton supposedly says this.
Supposed, as in no audio available.
Well, I call trash report on this website, but it may be something Clinton would say indeed.

Whatever the people who support Clinton, these stars are looking out for themselves, I doubt very much that they have any real political views, as long as the money keeps coming in they would support anyone.

Illuminati performers support the Illuminati Candidate.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on November 06, 2016, 05:41:45 PM

Looks to me like everything is set up to completely fabricate a 'narrow win' by Hillary.  Scanning the Google-news renderings for keywords 'trump polls' is something I do often, and it shows what I would expect in the operation of a whole-cloth theft.  Of course the mainstream media contractors staging area FTP sites and finding pre-made graphics showing the same (until the cat was out of the bag) is also exactly what I would expect in such a operation.

Now, evidence of some truly disturbing shit with respect to a broad web compromise network really does seem to be solid.  By this I mean the Podesta's being heavily into occult weirdness, The pedo (proposed) code-words, the Haiti child trafficking operations and the Abedin interest in cleaning up the messes, and a lot of other things.  Lots of corroboration and puzzle pieces which fit uncomfortably well.

'They say', that there is a lot more where this comes from.  The 'they' in this case are quite able to auto-drip information out no matter how violent the push-back.  I expect and hope that it keeps coming.  I do feel it likely that there really is very wide-spread corruption of our political system using some of the sickest means of control imaginable.  I, for one, would like to see the 'swamp be drained' and the pond scrubbed, and the operation done thoroughly enough so that we have a decent stretch of safe swimming.  Ideally, also a regime of periodic disinfectant so the slime is not so prone to form going forward.  To wit...

It may actually be best if Hillary is installed, and especially in the face of an undeniable Trump landslide.  People (or decent people) will be interested and incensed enough to take pay attention to the drips of increasingly vile information seriously and decide that we MUST make some changes.  Assange saying that things will be release 'for the rest of the year' perhaps hints at a vision of an initially quasi-successful power grab, or as Piezcenik calls in, a 'coup', by the current establishment.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on November 06, 2016, 05:55:33 PM
Illuminati at play? coincidence.

FBI AGENT SUSPECTED IN HILLARY EMAIL LEAKS FOUND DEAD IN APPARENT MURDER-SUICIDE

Walkerville, MD – An FBI agent believed to be responsible for the latest email leaks “pertinent to the investigation” into Hillary Clinton’s private email server while she was Secretary of State, was found dead in an apparent murder-suicide early Saturday morning, according to police.

http://denverguardian.com/2016/11/05/fbi-agent-suspected-hillary-email-leaks-found-dead-apparent-murder-suicide/

http://www.snopes.com/fbi-agent-murder-suicide/ false


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on November 06, 2016, 06:24:43 PM
We know that the MSM fakes news, but what is the point of the above post, is it to try and discredit us.

I see many different polls, majority have Clinton ahead, then I see others that have Trump ahead, no news about them.


Daily Presidential Tracking Poll http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/prez_track_nov4 seems to have good handle on it.

The presidential contest is tied again in the latest White House Watch survey, but Republican Donald Trump is holding on to his 10-point lead among those who’ve already made up their minds how they will vote.

Here is some fake news about Clinton  :D https://i.imgur.com/zvbacTi.jpg


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 07, 2016, 12:15:56 AM

Well, this is for real:

Anonymous Releases Bone Chilling Video of Huma Abedin that Every American Needs to See

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgheRzhCTkc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgheRzhCTkc)


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: same21 on November 07, 2016, 02:31:39 AM
Donald Trump’s advantage is that he is a man. Some feels awkward to vote for a woman president. Second, he is a business man. He has an excellent leadership experienced when it comes to business and economy. Third, he has a lot of money to held campaign. While Hillary is good in debate, she is a woman of principles. However, because of her surname, they regard her as the one that will repeat the mistakes of her husband. Right now she's on lead.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 07, 2016, 02:58:30 AM
Donald Trump’s advantage is that he is a man. Some feels awkward to vote for a woman president. Second, he is a business man. He has an excellent leadership experienced when it comes to business and economy. Third, he has a lot of money to held campaign. While Hillary is good in debate, she is a woman of principles. However, because of her surname, they regard her as the one that will repeat the mistakes of her husband. Right now she's on lead.

Some feels awkward to vote for a woman criminal


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Kava on November 07, 2016, 07:41:07 AM
Donald Trump’s advantage is that he is a man. Some feels awkward to vote for a woman president. Second, he is a business man. He has an excellent leadership experienced when it comes to business and economy. Third, he has a lot of money to held campaign. While Hillary is good in debate, she is a woman of principles. However, because of her surname, they regard her as the one that will repeat the mistakes of her husband. Right now she's on lead.

Some feels awkward to vote for a woman criminal

It seems to me that the biography Trump also is not as perfect as he represents it.
And at the expense of a floor at a future president personally I do not care. The main thing that was a good politician


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: 4x4et on November 07, 2016, 08:42:08 PM
Donald Trump’s advantage is that he is a man. Some feels awkward to vote for a woman president. Second, he is a business man. He has an excellent leadership experienced when it comes to business and economy. Third, he has a lot of money to held campaign. While Hillary is good in debate, she is a woman of principles. However, because of her surname, they regard her as the one that will repeat the mistakes of her husband. Right now she's on lead.

Some feels awkward to vote for a woman criminal

x

She's not just a criminal, she's a raving lunatic.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Racey on November 07, 2016, 09:01:42 PM
Donald Trump’s advantage is that he is a man. Some feels awkward to vote for a woman president. Second, he is a business man. He has an excellent leadership experienced when it comes to business and economy. Third, he has a lot of money to held campaign. While Hillary is good in debate, she is a woman of principles. However, because of her surname, they regard her as the one that will repeat the mistakes of her husband. Right now she's on lead.

Some feels awkward to vote for a woman criminal

x

She's not just a criminal, she's a raving lunatic.

She is both, and psychotic.

A US General Michael Flynn warns that Hillary Clinton is unfit to be President and Commander and Chief of the United States and is mentally unstable.
We cannot have that kind of behavior in the Whitehouse.

Watch this.. and Clinton is also lying while she speaks.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG7cHdsIQ7M


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: praboso96 on November 08, 2016, 12:10:32 PM
Both candidates is not very suitable for the presidency. Soon we find out who will now lead the country and what policies will the man


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: dirokkl on November 08, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Both candidates is not very suitable for the presidency. Soon we find out who will now lead the country and what policies will the man
I agree. This year there is no candidate for whom I would vote. We're not voting for someone but against someone. It's bad but what to do?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Alfa123 on November 08, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
Both candidates is not very suitable for the presidency. Soon we find out who will now lead the country and what policies will the man
I hope Hillary will conduct a more muscular foreign policy and will not forget about the economy and healthcare in America.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 08, 2016, 10:54:40 PM
Both candidates is not very suitable for the presidency. Soon we find out who will now lead the country and what policies will the man
I agree. This year there is no candidate for whom I would vote. We're not voting for someone but against someone. It's bad but what to do?

VOTE THIRD PARTY -- for the FUTURE


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on November 08, 2016, 11:44:04 PM
Both candidates is not very suitable for the presidency. Soon we find out who will now lead the country and what policies will the man
I agree. This year there is no candidate for whom I would vote. We're not voting for someone but against someone. It's bad but what to do?

VOTE THIRD PARTY -- for the FUTURE

'Third Party' == 'Donald J. Trump'

Not trying to electioneer at this late date, but that's the way I feel...with somewhat greater than a 50% degree of confidence I hasten to add.  Still, that's about "greater than 50% " minus 1% better chances than I ever expected to see as a realistic option in the U.S. ever again insofar as an option for POTUS goes.

---

I'll just answer the guy who questioned my 'Hillary vs. Stalin' rhetoric on one of these thread here:

That is actually not untrue.  I would prefer a Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin to a Hillary Dahmer Clinton (and it looks increasingly like the Dahmer part might map to reality as crazy as that sounds.  Really!)

The poster's complaint was that Stalin murdered 20x10^6 people or whatever.  I would argue that Bush Jr. +Obama have done 'better' than that here in the good old U.S.A. with vaccines, GMO's, non-functional health care, economic warfare against us, etc.  How much of the table was set by Bush Sr. + Bill Clinton with their various policies I'm yet computing.

Stalin certainly went hard on controlling the media and dispatching any potential enemies on an individual basis.  Often enough to their deaths in Siberia.  Hillary basically promises to do the same thing, and the scary thing is that in her mind the more brutal and painful the experience for her victims the more power accrues to her and her ilk in their twisted minds.  Maybe Stalin felt the same way?  I've not yet researched whether he was or was not an occultist.

About the only thing which Stalin had that Hilary does not is health.  I'm fairly confident that she will never be sworn in due simply to health issues and/or the 'counter-coup' that (the late?) Dr. Pieczenik spoke of.  But it's basically the same thing whether it's Hillary or some replacement chosen by her puppeteers.  I'm getting the hell out of dodge, friends, if this eventuality comes to pass.  Or at least setting up to do so and trying to not be to late.

By my calculation, the udder of the U.S. cow is just about milked dry, but there is still a lot of meat on the bone.  We could switch to a different phase of extraction any day now.  That's what really bothers me.  We probably do have at least one more calving left in us which could extend our useful life for another time-slice, and I would hope that Trump would take that tact.  Hillary is, I feel, an operative for a different farming group.  A producing cow on our North American farm is nothing but a complicating economic hassle and menace to the group she works for.

Before I bought my first Bitcoin I realized that what BTC meant (among other things) to an individual was the ability to wash up on the shore anywhere in the world with not but the shirt on one's back and have at least the potential to arrange a degree of security.  Now may be the test.  The U.S.'s (or I should say, U.N.'s) footprint is so large that it would be kind of a matter of trying to pick the most hospitable shore.  (Thoughts on this issue anyone?)



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 08, 2016, 11:47:54 PM
Sorry, but Donald sold his soul to the ReBloodlican Party.

"Third Party" means

Libertarian

Independent

Green

or "Other."

Surely a True "Democracy" embraces more than 2 choices.  

The "Two-Party System" is OBSOLETE.

and un-Democratic.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: 4x4et on November 09, 2016, 02:00:20 AM
go Trump go!!!!


Florida win  :D


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Caladonian on November 09, 2016, 02:24:03 AM
go Trump go!!!!


Florida win  :D
wow from this early moment trump really showing strength against hillary i wonder who's going to win, for me both of them is not fit to be a leader of this powerful nation both parties is not telling the truth the public hope less evil will win for the entire world.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: RoomBot on November 09, 2016, 02:29:15 AM

Huge "Red" stripe down the middle of our states!

Hard to believe how CLOSE this race is.....   ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzOMG....


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 09, 2016, 02:30:08 AM
go Trump go!!!!


Florida win  :D

I think that he is going to win. Right now, he is ahead by some 140,000 votes. But I am a bit bothered with the remaining votes in Broward county. 37% of the votes there are yet to be counted. Not much remaining in Palm Beach and Miami-Dade (7% and 6% respectively). A few votes remaining in Osceola county as well.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on November 09, 2016, 02:51:31 AM
go Trump go!!!!

Florida win  :D

wow from this early moment trump really showing strength against hillary i wonder who's going to win, for me both of them is not fit to be a leader of this powerful nation both parties is not telling the truth the public hope less evil will win for the entire world.

I'm not getting my hopes up for Trump.  Looks to me exactly what I would expect for a steal along the lines if what would happen if the plan which accounted for the various mainstream media predictive programming operations were going through.  Also matches the pre-produced results which were found on the media staging servers some days ago.

For the last few days I've been thinking that the best result would be a Clinton win by theft followed by release of _real_ information which is utterly devastating.  This would provide lubrication for investigation of election theft in an environment of open warfare between faction within our government.  It's a very risky strategy but if it is successful it would more rapidly and completely 'drain the swamp.'

(Assuming the guy is 'for real',) A Trump win no matter what happens will be quite painful.  Don't expect the globalists to role over and fall away.  I would rather have this than a slow decline into the abyss (which seems to be scheduled to culminate in 2030) under the likes of Hillary.  Under a more Trump-like regime we would take the pain early and change the trajectory to a positive slope.  Hopefully.

My vote as always: Flynn/Sessions 2017!



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: ajareselde on November 09, 2016, 03:59:23 AM
Looking closely as this race, currently 131-197 for Trump, and as expected altcoin market is suffering while btc price is moving up , same as gold.

Interesting to add : they announced bitcoin price increase on live bloomberg tv, which is a double hit for us !


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: akashborikar on November 09, 2016, 05:00:56 AM
I think trump will be win today...  :-\ :-\


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Edgemaster on November 09, 2016, 05:07:56 AM
you need a shrewd businessman not a politician to run the country


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: th3nolo on November 09, 2016, 05:33:44 AM
Donald Trump will win today, a few states remaining but he is leading almost all of these, why everyone thinks that surveys are reals?
Just look back brexit election believe, and the people voted in favor. 



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Snorek on November 09, 2016, 05:37:14 AM
History repeats itself. It was exactly the same with Brexit, every poll before Brexit suggested that Britain will remain in EU.
But people decided otherwise. Same is happening now with US election. How did everyone get it so wrong?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Yuuto on November 09, 2016, 05:45:23 AM
I think trump will be win today...  :-\ :-\

Yeah no shit. He has a massive majority over Clinton but really we are literally choosing between the two worst candidates... I'd rather get someone like Gary Johnson to be president, or even Bernie Sanders.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Gleb Gamow on November 09, 2016, 05:45:33 AM
With the exception of one mention of the legalization of weed in three states, Google now thinks that it's to my best interest to no longer plaster its news page with election coverage as it has since early this morning. It's almost like Google is was in Hillary's camp, but since that camp is just about to concede to the Trump's camp, Google can't handle the pain any longer so they tweaked their algos so that I now see the Dow down 750 points and Bitcoin is going up, and I don't even have Bitcoin as one of my alerts on my currently login thingy.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Carlsen on November 09, 2016, 05:56:38 AM
I just read that stock maket in asia is going down.
While bitcoin price went up to over 730$.
I suppose that has something to do with the upcoming election of Trump as next US president.


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: tvbcof on November 09, 2016, 06:10:43 AM

you need a shrewd businessman not a politician to run the country

All we need is someone who cares about the future of the republic.  Their occupation is irrelevant, but their competence obviously does matter.  Trump claims to be that guy, and he claims it with enough strength that I hope he is for real.

I'm now cautiously optimistic that Trump has cleared the election hurdle, but there are a lot more of them to go as the globalists (who still have a few months of Obama left unless he's arrested) fight back.  Trump also needs to keep his ass alive, though I think that an assassination would be to risky in this climate so he's probably good there.

(As for my caution, I'm still gun-shy after going to sleep in 2000 after my candidate 'won' only to wake up to find something different the next morning.  In retrospect I'm glad Gore didn't become prez, but I wasn't at that time and I'm not down with election theft under any circumstance.  Even if it means the election of the creepy witch!)

Then the nitty-gritty details of 'draining the swamp' come into play.  Lots of compromises to be made there, and I get that.  I voted for Trump and gave his campaign money because I wanted him to be aggressive here it being the defining and lasting way to 'Make America Great Again.'  I plan to try to hold Trump's feet to the fire.  I'll be super pissed if he pulls a Reagan and installs the very slimeballs that he ran against where they continued along their merry way selling out and destroying the country while he became a senile vegetable.

I am prepared for Trump to not live up to my hopes and expectations which are pretty high but I am confident that nothing could be worse for the country than Hillary Clinton.



Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Edgemaster on November 09, 2016, 01:27:15 PM
trump to adopt trumpcoin ?


Title: Re: Donald Trump Vs Hilary Clinton
Post by: Spendulus on November 09, 2016, 01:33:02 PM

you need a shrewd businessman not a politician to run the country

All we need is someone who cares about the future of the republic.  Their occupation is irrelevant, but their competence obviously does matter.  Trump claims to be that guy, and he claims it with enough strength that I hope he is for real.

I'm now cautiously optimistic that Trump has cleared the election hurdle, but there are a lot more of them to go as the globalists (who still have a few months of Obama left unless he's arrested) fight back.  Trump also needs to keep his ass alive, though I think that an assassination would be to risky in this climate so he's probably good there.

(As for my caution, I'm still gun-shy after going to sleep in 2000 after my candidate 'won' only to wake up to find something different the next morning.  In retrospect I'm glad Gore didn't become prez, but I wasn't at that time and I'm not down with election theft under any circumstance.  Even if it means the election of the creepy witch!)

Then the nitty-gritty details of 'draining the swamp' come into play.  Lots of compromises to be made there, and I get that.  I voted for Trump and gave his campaign money because I wanted him to be aggressive here it being the defining and lasting way to 'Make America Great Again.'  I plan to try to hold Trump's feet to the fire.  I'll be super pissed if he pulls a Reagan and installs the very slimeballs that he ran against where they continued along their merry way selling out and destroying the country while he became a senile vegetable.

I am prepared for Trump to not live up to my hopes and expectations which are pretty high but I am confident that nothing could be worse for the country than Hillary Clinton.



It's not just Trump.  It is the reversal of all the fake executive orders, the slate of Supreme Court judges, the fact that Trump can deal with the House and the Senate to enact positive change.  It means the stake in the heart of Obamacare.  The end of the IRS lawsuit for them fighting conservatives, and the end of their corrupt practices in auditing conservatives.

I would speculate it is the end of a climate of fear and intimidation that had descended over this country.  How many people do you know who were for Trump, but who would not admit it publicly?