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After I entered the IOTA trading channel in Slack, the user "Dominik Schiener" contacted me.
At the end of our conversation the user "Dominik Schiener" changed his name to: "Admiral Bit"

Dominik Schiener [11:56 PM]  
Hi, if you are looking to source IOTA quickly and secure I am offering batches of 1 TIOTA @ 10 Bitcoin per batch.  If you require any just let me know.  Thanks, Dom

yumei [11:59 PM]  
hi, sprichst du deutsch ?

Dominik Schiener [11:59 PM]  
a little but my English is better


----- Today August 30th, 2016 -----
yumei [12:00 AM]  
ah ok I thought your name is german

Dominik Schiener [12:00 AM]  
If you need the IOTA wallet, latest build here : https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases/tag/1.0.4.beta
 GitHub
iotaledger/wallet
wallet - IOTA Wallet
 

yumei [12:01 AM]  
well can you explain me how it works with trading, do I need to transfer BTC anywhere for the bot recognizing it, or its just a OTC between me and you where we have to handle anything else ?

Dominik Schiener [12:02 AM]  
I am one of the IOTA devs so trades are secure.  You can also go to the trading channel and type "BIDS" or "ASKS" for the bot to respond.  Trades are manual so escrow is recommended if you are dealing with a regular member here

[12:04]  
Seccour or Yassin are recommended for Escrow

yumei [12:04 AM]  
ok I understand, may I ask you some questions then? is IOTA pow or pos, how is it different to bitcoin beside there is no typical blockchain, my english is poor, so I didnt understand that much. but if you don´t have time to explain its fine I will search elsewhere, but I am highly interested to buy from you

Dominik Schiener [12:05 AM]  
All the info you require can be found here in detail : https://www.iotatoken.com/

[12:06]  
IOTA has big advantages over bitcoin regarding scalability, no fees, fully decentralized

yumei [12:07 AM]  
ok i am actually installing the client, how long you will be online to do the trade ?

Dominik Schiener [12:09 AM]  
I will be on and off on a regular basis. When you are ready please use the following bitcoin address for payment : [hidden]

After transfer drop me a pm with your IOTA address, IOTA will be sent after 1 confirmation of the bitcoin

[12:10]  
You dont needa fully synced wallet to complete the trade and you can also check the IOTA has been sent using the tangle explorer here :  http://tangle.guru/

yumei [12:10 AM]  
ok thanks a lot Dominik, I appreciate your help a lot, I will pm you when I do the first 10 btc batch for 1 T IOTA

Dominik Schiener [12:10 AM]  
No probs.

Dominik Schiener [12:53 AM]  
heading offline soon.  If you decide to purchase the IOTA just send to the bitcoin to the above address (Hidden) then message me your IOTA address.  IOTA will be sent when I come back online shortly.  Current price is 10 BTC per 1 TIOTA (25 batches available)  - price is also subject to change so dont think about it too long :wink:  thanks, Dom.

yumei [12:55 AM]  
yes, actually I am downloading the data, seems like I need to download if completly before I can attach my address to tangle ?

[12:55]  
unfortunatly client is not showing me on status bar, how much I have still to download

Dominik Schiener [12:56 AM]  
You can use the address before attaching to tangle.  to give you an idea of how much you need to download you can reference the milestones here :  https://iotatangle.slack.com/messages/botbox/

yumei [12:57 AM]  
milestoneIndex
3005

[12:57]  
its not moving here

[12:58]  
ok give me 10 minutes, I will send you the first 10 btc

Dominik Schiener [12:58 AM]  
no probs, ill hold on a bit before logging off then

yumei [1:01 AM]  
FGCFLHTPTFRZVVLMDQIPWQXXHBEDBMRWILGFVEQHGBJHTYZN9MUYTNBUKCSZKKHEJLGKHGWUGQV9PMX CKQFI9IKUDO

Dominik Schiener [1:02 AM]  
ok, as soon as I get the transaction I.D ill get the IOTA sent over to you.  You can then check in tangle explorer that it has been sent if your wallet hasnt fully synced up

[1:05]  
bitcoin received.  sending IOTA now.

yumei [1:06 AM]  
ok

Dominik Schiener [1:08 AM]  
All sent, should show in your wallet shortly.

yumei [1:09 AM]  
ok thanks, I will test the client and read more about IOTA and might coming back to you, is there any discount when I decide to buy more / higher amounts ?

My question is why the hell are you guys doin this when there are so many good coins with just fine opportunities to earn?

Does not sound. " We dont want to be traded on exchange" enough big alarm for you?


I just dont get you all.

@Yumei

Omg stop trolling and do something with your life.

Ps: about your loss, did you try contacting bitcoin devs for fork? could work

My question is why the hell are you guys doin this when there are so many good coins with just fine opportunities to earn?

Does not sound. " We dont want to be traded on exchange" enough big alarm for you?


I just dont get you all.

Does not sound. " We dont want to be traded on exchange" enough big alarm for you?

@Yumei

Omg stop trolling and do something with your life.

Ps: about your loss, did you try contacting bitcoin devs for fork? could work

That's hilarious. No, seriously I can't stop laughing why anyone would be interested in a porject with devs not wanting exchanges.

Assuming that you, unlike OP who has not said 1 correct word thus far, is not a troll here is a genuine answer:

Virtually all the large exchanges has voiced their interest in listing IOTA from the beginning and are waiting for us to provide exchange-API, but unlike these other projects we are not concerned with it at all, IOTA is for real use-cases, the value of IOTA will be reflected from that, but it's not a priority at all. We chose to postpone exchange listing in order to tie up loose ends in the 'soft launch' period to avoid tons of confusion that would inevitably arise with thousands of new people coming in to learn a brand new technology.

That is the simple truth, if you do even 5 minutes rudimentary research about this project you would know that already, so now it's up to you to either accept reality or be a troll.

I documented and screenshoted all facts

please use the following bitcoin address for payment : [hidden]

Everyone reading this should be alarmed that yumei registered on IOTA slack and within less than an hour claimed that he sent 5'700 $ to an impersonator without doing any checks... after that he didn't even care about his lost money but immediately started discrediting all devs...

He ignored my response that I don´t want him and anybody else being able to associate my nickname with my Bitcoin address. Anyway, respected members on this forum are welcome to check my Bitcoin-Transaction to the scammer, as long they keep the data secret.

3. Founder and Chief-Developer "Come-from-Beyond" : Finally removing all my posts, claiming there never has been a scamming and I am a liar, allegedly because I didn´t want to publish my Bitcoin-Transaction hash.

"Come-From-Behind" removed all my message on another topic using the false pretense that I am a lier, although he was able to verifiy the Chat-Conversation or to ask a bitcointalk moderator to verifiy my Bitcoin-transaction to the scammer.

I have a fair proposal to you. I will show the screenshots with the scammer showing his Bitcoin Address to a bitcointalk.org moderator and he will decide if it is real or not. If he decides that I am not lying you will owe me 10 Bitcoins, if not I owe you 10 Bitcoins.

I think this is a gentlemen agreement, isn´t it?
If you won´t accept my bet and trying to excuse anyhow, please stop writing any nonsense here. Thanks

What is not correct from what I am saying? Please don´t make baseless claims.
I documented and screenshoted all facts I am talking about, I might have technical knowledge deficits but I am honest at all what I am saying. Btw. you are welcome to check my Bitcoin-Transaction if you want and if you admit afterwards the lie from the IOTA Founder that my story about the scamming is fictional as reason to remove all my posts in the other topic.

I won´t publish my Bitcoin-Transaction.

Actually, given that I am the IOTA Founder, your post is already erroneous.

Co-founder of IOTA, David Sønstebø believes his

I know. It's because there is none.

Here you have it:
yumei is a confirmed liar.

Please get some professional help.

Man do you have personality disorders or with whom did you confirmed that?
As I suggested we can figure out easily who is a liar and you will even get 10 Bitcoins from me when I am the liar, so what is your problem to not accept the bet?

Anyone else accepting the bet, @IOTAtoken, @Come-From-Beyond ?

I suggest to everybody, starting from now, to stop talking to Yumei as it is a clear troll wasting everybody's precious time (except his).

The rules are simple, provide publicly available proof = tx hash. Why would you hide it? Because you're a liar.

Are you mentaly ill? Third time for you: Because I don´t want my tx hash being published here for anybody. That why I suggested to bet.
But seems like you don´t have the balls to accept the bet, not even one ball, like your famous countryman?

First, doxing other users is : bad, useless, and it doesn't help people to trust that what you are saying is true.

Second, a bet doesn't help either. Why would someone bet 10 BTC to get a transaction hash ? Really man ?

Third, if you don't to publish it publicly, then send let's tchat in PM. If i find your proof convincing enough ( or not ) i will say it here without revealing the informations to anyone. So like that everyone is happy. Your informations aren't publicly available, and ( if you don't lie ) people will know that you were really scam and that this isn't just trolling.

Actually i dont really like to Insult People based on their origin. This is kind of Nazi behaviour.... But it serves my new plan to discredit the IOTA community. Codename: "Insult the admins"

I have a copy of yumei bitcoin address.

Have started doing some digging around in his transaction history, think I have found something interesting ;)

Will update shortly after confirmed.

@yumei:
One question, just to be sure that I got your point. You bought IOTA for 10 BTC or around 5,7k $ without using an escrow and now complaining about the IOTA devs because the scammer used the same profile picture and (editable) label name of a IOTA dev?

If so, didn't you get familiar with slack platform, did you? It is a very known issue that you have to check the @<username> to identify a user. Not relying on a label name. Further, a simple research would have brought you to know that the seller is a probable scammer and not the person you thought it is.

You made two mistakes:
1) Not using a escrow at all.
2) Not doing background research of the seller.

1. Dev and IOTA Slack coordinator Dominik Schiener making fun of me directly after I was scammed in their Slack-channel, telling me to "contact Bitcoin Core, maybe they will fork"

2. Co-Founder and communication Manager David Sønstebø : Being rude to me and accusing me repeatedly "being stupid" from his "objective point" instead of apologizing for their behaviour.

3. Founder and Chief-Developer "Come-from-Beyond" : Finally removing all my posts, claiming there never has been a scamming and I am a liar, allegedly because I didn´t want to publish my Bitcoin-Transaction hash.

..

People with high IQ tend to verbalize only the final stage assuming that the previous steps are obvious. Jokes work in a similar manner, they require a listener to construct intermediary steps in the mind, one of the steps triggers the reaction in brain. BTW, this is why quite often we see people who don't get a joke, low IQ doesn't allow to construct thoughts chain that make other people laugh..

Well I know I have to move on...

Assuming that you, unlike OP who has not said 1 correct word thus far, is not a troll here is a genuine answer:

Virtually all the large exchanges has voiced their interest in listing IOTA from the beginning and are waiting for us to provide exchange-API, but unlike these other projects we are not concerned with it at all, IOTA is for real use-cases, the value of IOTA will be reflected from that, but it's not a priority at all. We chose to postpone exchange listing in order to tie up loose ends in the 'soft launch' period to avoid tons of confusion that would inevitably arise with thousands of new people coming in to learn a brand new technology.

That is the simple truth, if you do even 5 minutes rudimentary research about this project you would know that already, so now it's up to you to either accept reality or be a troll.

My point is if it can be traded already then I don't think it should be up to you to decide when people should be able to trade it more safely and conveniently.

Of course it is. People selling and buying OTC is not something we can prevent or even care to prevent, it is 100% up to the adults making choices for themselves. But when you open a market on the largest exchanges you suddenly have a huge influx of complete newbies who take up A LOT of time and effort, we didn't want that until we had resolved all the loose ends that revolutionary technology inevitably brings. IOTA, while being inherently the most decentralized architecture from a technology POV due to impossibility of forks and no decoupling of verification, as well as completely fair ICO with zero premine, is still mostly focused on real world adoption via companies. So while it's grassroots and activist in one sense, it is very much a pragmatic real world technology movement rather than an ideological one, so therefore it is entirely up to us how to best execute it, which we have been 100% open about from day 1.

... That was the reason I was scammed.

Only reason is cause you're stupid, as you have shown yourself those last days.

Still having school holidays? You are in my ignore list now, Sockpuppet.

Yes, correct my fault was not to get familiar with trading on slack platform, which is in my opinion an invitation for the scammer anyway, so they should just stop it.

But the reaction from IOTA Devs and their "support" was the point I decided to make all this one publish.


They attack me personally, instead of speaking about the scamming at all. I just lost 10 bitcoins and they begun joking and insulting me. First this joke from Dominik and this dump defending from the founder of IOTA and the communitcation Manager telling me being stupid.


Well I know I have to move on... but it was too personal, as I could ignore it. So I started to personal attack them.

I will show the screenshots with the scammer including his Bitcoin Address to a bitcointalk.org moderator

Hey guys!


While I'm not a moderator, I reached out to yumei and asked, whether he wants to show me the transaction hash in private. He then send me an archive link of Slack, which I couldn't check out, as well as a transaction hash. The transaction confirmed on 2016-06-20 and it shows the movement of 10 BTC.

I asked yumei to sign a message with the key used to sign the transaction input, and I asked when the alleged trade took place, because the conversation he posted showed a link to a release (https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases/tag/1.0.4.beta) on GitHub, which was released only four days ago. I'm still waiting for a response.

2016-06-20 couldn't he find a better one?  ;D

@yumei:
One question, just to be sure that I got your point. You bought IOTA for 10 BTC or around 5,7k $ without using an escrow and now complaining about the IOTA devs because the scammer used the same profile picture and (editable) label name of a IOTA dev?

If so, didn't you get familiar with slack platform, did you? It is a very known issue that you have to check the @<username> to identify a user. Not relying on a label name. Further, a simple research would have brought you to know that the seller is a probable scammer and not the person you thought it is.

You made two mistakes:
1) Not using a escrow at all.
2) Not doing background research of the seller.

Sorry, just to clarify: the transaction indeed confirmed on 2016-08-29.

@yumei, as I promised I added an entry into your trust rating ("Pretended to be scammed for 10 BTC but refused to provide the hash of his transaction by making inconsistent excuses."), I'll remove it after you provide a proof that you indeed was scammed. Note that giving the hash may be not enough because it's not hard to claim that one transfer is yours, be ready to sign the hash with that very address

I asked yumei to sign a message with the key used to sign the transaction input, and I asked when the alleged trade took place, because the conversation he posted showed a link to a release (https://github.com/iotaledger/wallet/releases/tag/1.0.4.beta) on GitHub, which was released only four days ago. I'm still waiting for a response.

Thanks @dexX7 for for confirmation. But "Come-From-Beyond" is still refusing:

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After signing the hash he will find another excuse and resume his trolling, just to discredit me.

By the way: Did you know that "Come-From-Beyond" is actually Founder and CEO of IOTA + JINN (Isreali hardware start-up).
Some people claiming he was also the founder of NXT: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/come-from-beyond-bcnext/ (https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/come-from-beyond-bcnext/)

He divorced from his wife for a pretty young girl, despite his young daughter.

He is not able to remain faithful with his companys nore with his wifes.

With his arrogance and his thinking he is so superior to everyone, he thereby meets all the criteria having Narcissistic_personality_disorder : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder)

I would not be surprised if he decides to leave IOTA after he preyed upon all investors.

Slack should make it impossible to use a username that is being used already by another person, and reserve the @username url username for the people that owns the url, this way it would be impossible to try to impersonate other people.

As for the topic goes, I will read later, but I wanted to get involved in IOTA a bit since it looked interesting, so I hope is nothing serious.

Dont really understand what yumei is after.  I suspect he won't trade again without escrow.

O.k for the stupid ones like Jabbawa.
Got to facebook.com and search for "Sergey Ivancheglo" aka. "Come-From-Beyond"
You might also search his name directly on google.com

Hey Sergey, I found another webpage about you, it begins with your nickname and ends with .okis.ru

Your sheeps don´t believe me that you are seperated from your first wife and actualy living with your second wife.
Anyhow, your actual webpage seems like having additionally some photos about your ex-wife, daugther and actual wife. Maybe they will believe me now?

I doubt you can scam anyone with this non-popular domain, so you can keep it.

The popularity of a domain says nothing about the content of it and even less about the possibility to seo optimize it on google.
I am doubting that you don´t care about the website, even if you try to communicate it.

As I was asked for my motivations: to give Come-from-Beyond a lesson not to insult people from a stance he is better than anyone else.

If you anyhow are able to admit your bad behavings we can come to a conclusion.. and I am not proud of what I am doing, but as you admited to having fun insulting and trolling me, that is my answer.

I'm afraid you have failed in giving the lesson because all photos were public already and information on that page is incorrect, for example, Kamila is the name of my daughter, you should fix it to make it look more legit. So I'll still continue trolling you if you come here with something that might entertain me. I'm 99% sure that you are Admiral_Bit, the same modus operandi.

EDIT: I have already found a funny bit in your masterpiece. There are very few people who could make me care about something, one of them is my wife. If you are a sexy blonde girl who is willing to move to Belarus then I could indeed divorce my wife to marry you. This would make that page 100% correct. What a plot twist, hehe. Don't bother me with your proposals if you are a bald fat dude though, I'll request a videocall via Skype to make sure you don't fake your pics.

Did he deliver the missing pieces?

So why did you requested to remove the facebook website and your photo here on forum if you don´t care?
I think you prefered to stay anonymous over the years, moreover I think internally you are steaming with rage. None of your photos were public under your name neither findable on google or facebook.

You should give the website creator at least some credits searching vkontakte which is widly unknown out of russia, keeping in mind your ex-wife / actual wife couldn´t resist to upload some family photos. By the way, my offer about the conclusion was honest.

I don´t want to be a guy like you talking about the IQ constantly, but if you really think I am admiral-kid your IQ might be not that high as you think.
Anyway if this stuff bothers you, feel free to PM me as it is totally offtopic.

Any news on this?
Did yumei = Admiral_Bit deliver or can we shelve the case as "Scammer #3244 yumei"?

I can bet yumei is Admiral_Bit, the same set of tricks. A message signed by that address would prove nothing because a scammer could send 10 BTC to himself, but in this very case I bet this idea didn't even come to yumei/Admiral_Bit's mind, haha, this is above his head.

Attention, I was scammed 10 BTC on iotaangle.slack.com

I can bet yumei is Admiral_Bit, the same set of tricks. A message signed by that address would prove nothing because a scammer could send 10 BTC to himself, but in this very case I bet this idea didn't even come to yumei/Admiral_Bit's mind, haha, this is above his head.

Attention, I was scammed 10 BTC on iotaangle.slack.com

No Blockchain. No exchange sites. Only scammytrades inside that shady SlCrack Channel Alley.

But they wanna have Bitcoins for their shit? Oh, really? Not DOGE or maybe some NXT ?

No Blockchain. No exchange sites. Only scammytrades inside that shady SlCrack Channel Alley.

But they wanna have Bitcoins for their shit? Oh, really? Not DOGE or maybe some NXT ?

http://come-from-beyond.okis.ru/