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Title: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 14, 2016, 10:25:21 PM
This old thread was bumped in development and technical, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737836.60
Dabs, staff, posted this a while ago, but i saw it as it is on the last bumped page.


So I'm supposed to spend months of my life working for free?  Don't get me wrong I like crypto but I want to make some money.

Linux is open source.
Bitcoin is open source.
LibreOffice is a multiplatform open-source office suite.

I'm sure I can give you hundreds more examples. Each of those projects are "free to download and use" but the developers have happy lives and are being compensated somehow.

In the beginning, open source software looked like a saintly gift. Programmers would work hard, then give away the fruits of their labor to anyone who wanted it. Everyone would benefit from this act of pure charity.

Over time, however, companies realized they could make money and give away the software at the same time. They could do well by doing good. This wasn't a shock to some of the original open source advocates -- it was how some intended it to be. Richard Stallman, for one, always said that "free speech" was more important to him than "free beer." He embraced the idea that companies could charge anything they like -- as long as the user could fiddle with the code and distribute the result.

There is a common misconception that there is no money in open source software. It is true that open source code is free to download. But when it comes to making money you should think of this as an opportunity rather than a limitation.

    Businesses who make money in open source software include:

    MySQL (now owned by Oracle): Popular relational database.
    Red Hat: Major distributor of Linux for server and desktop use.
    WordPress: Widely used blogging platform.
    SugarCRM: Business customer relations management.
    Magento: E-commerce shopping platform.
    Zimbra: E-mail and messaging server.


If your idea is truly worth something, even if you give it away for free, you will surely get compensated somehow. I don't know how.

If it's not, then no one will pay for it anyway.

It is basically copy pasted from 2 other sites.
https://www.cio.com.au/article/528999/greed_good_9_open_source_secrets_making_money/
http://opensource.about.com/od/basics/tp/5-Ways-To-Make-Money-With-Open-Source-Software.htm

I am presuming dabs is not the author of these two other sites.
Dabs makes no acknowledgement or reference to above sites.

Looks like copy paste to me.  ???



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's
Post by: Dabs on October 15, 2016, 01:08:09 AM
Thank you.

I forgot where I got them from. Edited post to reference original. I was not staff back then. I tend to copy paste good ideas from where ever I read them, just keep notes in notepad or paste into some random text file in my tablet or laptop.

Feel free to let me know of any other posts (of mine particularly) as I've done a few thousand of them over the past couple of years.

I am not going to justify anything, I just believe that the message is more important than the messenger. It doesn't matter who says it. Also, unlike others, I have no motive or incentive to do random copy pastes, I don't join sig campaigns or make money that way.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 15, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
i have edited the title to include others.
This report is too long to pm, and maybe of entertainment value to members.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=233217  manyute.
this member was spamming discussion, posting in many different threads in just a few minutes.
seemingly all copy paste, spelling mistakes and all. I will list just 3 from today,

I think for now gold is better than bitcoin because gold has already established a track record and people know what is gold and that it can protect them or its like an insurance for them if they have money problems, they can always sell the gold  in exchange for fiat and it has higher value than bitcoin. But when bitcoin will be of higher value than gold and it would be more popular then  it would be better than gold because you can carry it wherever you want and no one knows that you have a lot of money since its anonymous.

copied from
I think for now gold is better than bitcoin because gold has already established a track record and people know what is gold and that it can protect them or its like an insurance for them if they have money problems, they can always sell the gold  in exchange for fiat and it has higher value than bitcoin. But when bitcoin will be of higher value than gold and it would be more popular then  it would be better than gold because you can carry it wherever you want and no one knows that you have a lot of money since its anonymous.


the question is why would you not accept Bitcoin as your salary?  It is the same ass taking cash in your local currency, it is just in another form.  It would be like taking gold or silver instead of receiving USD for me.

copied from
the question is why would you not accept Bitcoin as your salary?  It is the same ass taking cash in your local currency, it is just in another form.  It would be like taking gold or silver instead of receiving USD for me.


Of course, I would love to receive my salary in BTC. Actually I am already receive some of my salary in BTC as I have an online work or job that pays BTC while in my day job I am paid in my countries currency automatically credited into my bank account during payday.

copied from
Of course, I would love to receive my salary in BTC. Actually I am already receive some of my salary in BTC as I have an online work or job that pays BTC while in my day job I am paid in my countries currency automatically credited into my bank account during payday.

And a few from his last session,
I guess that stealing Bitcoin is illegal because if they do not belong to you then it is still considered stealing even if people think that Bitcoin is illegal as well.
So yes stealing Bitcoin is still not legal but there is not much that can be done if it happens.

copied from,
I guess that stealing Bitcoin is illegal because if they do not belong to you then it is still considered stealing even if people think that Bitcoin is illegal as well.
So yes stealing Bitcoin is still not legal but there is not much that can be done if it happens.


in our area still there is not a single department who have accepted bitcoin, therefore bitcoin need some more effort to become popular, but it is also a fact that the number of bitcoin users is increasing day by day.

copied from,
in our area still there is not a single department who have accepted bitcoin, therefore bitcoin need some more effort to become popular, but it is also a fact that the number of bitcoin users is increasing day by day.


I think holding the bitcoin for a long time is good although its depending on what you of course consider as a long time.
Most of the times a long time can be good its just a matter of time these days to make profit with the bitcoin.

copied from,
I think holding the bitcoin for a long time is good although its depending on what you of course consider as a long time.
Most of the times a long time can be good its just a matter of time these days to make profit with the bitcoin.

And the list goes on ....



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Cyrus on October 15, 2016, 07:26:00 PM
i have edited the title to include others.
This report is too long to pm, and maybe of entertainment value to members.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=233217  manyute.
this member was spamming discussion, posting in many different threads in just a few minutes.
seemingly all copy paste, spelling mistakes and all. I will list just 3 from today,

Banned. Thanks and nice catch btw.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 15, 2016, 07:50:03 PM
Banned. Thanks and nice catch btw.

Your welcome. See, i'm not all bad!  :)


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Chris! on October 15, 2016, 08:00:03 PM
Is there a software you or anyone else uses to find these copy and pasted posts? I tried basic things like searching parts of posts on the forum search and google but even when I know it's copy and pasted (because someone has reported it like on this thread) I can't find the posts at all.

TL;DR how do you find copy/pasted posts, manually or with software?


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 15, 2016, 08:03:47 PM
TL;DR how do you find copy/pasted posts, manually or with software?

Manually for me. Google search, not forum search.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: gkv9 on October 15, 2016, 08:27:25 PM
You are truly a great person, the one this community always wanted...
A light of hope is now here on the forum and will surely spread happiness among us instead of bullshit and spam that we are all around...
Regards and good luck for your work ahead, Mr. Superman... :)


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Chris! on October 15, 2016, 08:34:25 PM
TL;DR how do you find copy/pasted posts, manually or with software?

Manually for me. Google search, not forum search.

Do you search snippets of a quote or do you search the whole thing? I don't know much about coding but this seems like something someone could make a script for that if they see say 20 words the same in a row they get notification somehow.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on October 16, 2016, 06:11:53 AM
Do you search snippets of a quote or do you search the whole thing? I don't know much about coding but this seems like something someone could make a script for that if they see say 20 words the same in a row they get notification somehow.
If you want,you can automate anything.You don't have to search snippts,depends on the posts actually.Copy pasting in google search links to the actual bitcointalk comment,multiples if any.The problem is you don't know out of the million posts which one's are copy pasted,you gotta pick your targets manually.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on October 16, 2016, 06:40:03 AM
I wish there was a script for this because copy and pasting is rife and quite difficult to spot especially if you're not looking out for it and it's extremely time-consuming to do so. The only real way to catch them is to copy a few fairly unique words or a typo that stands out and put them in the search but even they can bring up pages of results along with all the posts that have quoted it. They tend to do it in the big threads with 40+ pages but not exclusively.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 16, 2016, 10:22:23 PM
Im guessing the OP thought he had busted a Staff Member breaking rules.

Yeah, i think i did.
Did i think anything would happen? nah.

I did slate you once for no real reason, always meant to apologise, never did. I chilled, as you suggested. (apologies now)
I guess i was owed the picture thingy.  :D

You are truly a great person, the one this community always wanted...
A light of hope is now here on the forum and will surely spread happiness among us instead of bullshit and spam that we are all around...
Regards and good luck for your work ahead, Mr. Superman... :)

Blimey, thank you sir.

Do you search snippets of a quote or do you search the whole thing?

Could be either, i think google only uses the first 30ish words. Depends what mood googles in also.

Sometimes if looking at someones post history, you may notice they suddenly speak, or write differently, maybe they suddenly speak prefect English, before suddenly loosing that ability again.

It is pot luck, and you will not find many. I don't look much.
It is quite unbelievable that someone would copy paste such spam trash posts as above, (manyute)
It must be just as quick to type a near as copy, like the shitposters he copied off, and not risk a ban!

Added

snip... They tend to do it in the big threads with 40+ pages but not exclusively.

I think that was the case here.
Maybe the threads that manyute posted in need looking at as part of the close a useless thread thing you got going.
At least in discussion.
There is even "Would you like to receive your salary in Bitcoin?" in discussion, and "Will you accept Bitcoin as your salary?" in off topic.
Which manyute replied to both!



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 26, 2016, 06:08:47 PM
just looking at PieCrafted. I was sure he was on my farmed list, cant find him there though, maybe i've yet to post him!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552962
followed his posts to "Do you use a bot for trading?"  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638032.msg16688871.

Jeez, the whole thread is teaming with famed accounts, and PieCrafted copy pasting.

Thank you very much for sharing your experience. It must be really a great help to this community. I really appreciate it.

Bots are working as per predetermined parameters. So, expecting them to perform well for all type of market conditions is completely meaningless. If we are having some knowledge on setting up those parameters, we will be get chances to make them work according to market conditions but it is not for beginners, only advanced traders could do this.

Copied by pieCrafted,

Bots are working as per predetermined parameters. So, expecting them to perform well for all type of market conditions is completely meaningless. If we are having some knowledge on setting up those parameters, we will be get chances to make them work according to market conditions but it is not for beginners, only advanced traders could do this.

ok, i see other examples of copy paste now. Clearly different writing to his not copy paste posts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1502044.0

If I am correct the US dollar is already dominating the Bitcoin trading because most people are selling there Bitcoins against the US dollar.
I think that this is going to be the same for a long time I do not see any reason why people would trade in for a other currency.

copied by PieCrafted,

If I am correct the US dollar is already dominating the Bitcoin trading because most people are selling there Bitcoins against the US dollar.
I think that this is going to be the same for a long time I do not see any reason why people would trade in for a other currency.

Oh, he's been busy today,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1287388.msg16688848#msg16688848

Nobody should neither impose hard fork nor soft fork without consensus IMHO, not even on core.

Although I believe that with a soft fork, everything keeps working for everyone and with a hard fork there are users who can't see some transactions, and think they haven't gotten paid when they have.
But with soft forks, the protocol in 10 or 20 years is going to be a horrible and confusing mess.

TL;DR soft forks are grotesque. Hard forks are violent.

copied by PieCrafted, (then quoted by lauda in the next post, oops!)

Although I believe that with a soft fork, everything keeps working for everyone and with a hard fork there are users who can't see some transactions, and think they haven't gotten paid when they have.
But with soft forks, the protocol in 10 or 20 years is going to be a horrible and confusing mess.

ok, 1 more from today, i'll have a quick look if this is a new habit for him, or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1372149.600

I think storing is not against the bitcoin alrotugh its not pretty good for the economy a lot of people are doing this because if the fact that the bitcoin is gonna rise in its price.
This price increase is because of the halving and people are waiting on it because of that.

copied by PieCrafted,

I think storing is not against the bitcoin alrotugh its not pretty good for the economy a lot of people are doing this because if the fact that the bitcoin is gonna rise in its price.
This price increase is because of the halving and people are waiting on it because of that.

Ok checked PieCrafted post history beyond today, lots of other copy paste, wont quote.



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 26, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
Good job, Rizz. 

I happened upon some jerk who copied part of one of my posts earlier this year, and I must say I was at first flattered.   And then I quickly reported his stupid bug-eating ass.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 26, 2016, 06:55:22 PM
Good job, Rizz. 

I happened upon some jerk who copied part of one of my posts earlier this year, and I must say I was at first flattered.   And then I quickly reported his stupid bug-eating ass.

So much more entertaining than pressing the report button!  :D


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 26, 2016, 09:56:56 PM

Just bumped into Grobogan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900939

"Is it better to save money or invest it?"

Saving is putting money aside bit by bit, to make a lump sum. You need to save for a particular goal, like having money for a holiday, a depoist on house, or any emergencies that might crop up. Often saving is taken to mean putting your money into cash products, like bank and building society accounts, and thats how define savings.
copied from here,
Saving is putting money aside bit by bit, to make a lump sum. You need to save for a particular goal, like having money for a holiday, a depoist on house, or any emergencies that might crop up. Often saving is taken to mean putting your money into cash products, like bank and building society accounts, and thats how define savings.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Cyrus on October 27, 2016, 12:46:51 AM
Just bumped into Grobogan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=900939

Banned, thanks!


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on October 31, 2016, 08:14:17 PM
i think bitcoin can never help  to the poor country while it can help to the poor people pf the world . because a man will use his mind to earn money with particular stretgy while the people pf whole country will not do the same , many of them will try to gamble and will loss their money .
copy paste by Darmo Gandoel
I think bitcoin can never help  to the poor country while it can help to the poor people pf the world . because a man will use his mind to earn money with particular stretgy while the people pf whole country will not do the same , many of them will try to gamble and will loss their money .

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I do not think so, bitcoin are required gadgets and internet connection to access and to work with and if the people in that poor country can not afford that i think bitcoin can not help them.
chop? copy paste by wibuindon
I think poor countries can help by bitcoin if the people in poor country have pc or gadget and internet connection, if the people in that poor country can not afford that i think bitcoin can not help them.

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I only choose Bitcoin wallet because the transactions from one wallet to other is instant and have low transaction fees. And If the price of Bitcoin increases I will be making profits......
chop? copy paste by wibuindon
I prefer bitcoin wallet because the transactions from one wallet to other is instant and have low transaction fees and If the price of bitcoin increases I will be making profits, so i prefer bitcoin wallet.
note to smas
thanks yahoo for accepting me in this signature campaign  :)

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Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Cyrus on November 03, 2016, 12:33:32 AM
Banned them both, thanks!


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Killimanjaro on November 03, 2016, 08:19:37 AM
SpiryGolden

date post from 29 october 2016

Mr bean
naruto
spogebob
Game of Thrones
The walking dead
Fear the walking dead
Mr Robot

copy paste from
date post 28 august 2016

Mr bean
naruto
spogebob
Game of Thrones
The walking dead
Fear the walking dead
Mr Robot


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on November 03, 2016, 08:59:23 AM
They were already banned.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on November 03, 2016, 04:57:44 PM
They were already banned.

Who were? when?


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Lauda on November 03, 2016, 05:00:35 PM
They were already banned.
Who were? when?
I think that hilariousandco is talking about the report from Killimanjaro, which contains two users, both of which are currently banned from what I can tell.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on November 03, 2016, 05:19:36 PM

Ok thanks lauda,
I guess "indiransaputri" wasn't banned for being copied!

BTW, PieCrafted's ban seems to have been missed? (post 13) Multiple copy paste.
He is wearing a sig. That means he is not banned correct?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552962



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Lauda on November 03, 2016, 05:45:59 PM
BTW, PieCrafted's ban seems to have been missed? (post 13) Multiple copy paste.
He is wearing a sig. That means he is not banned correct?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=552962
They are also banned from what I can see right now. Note that their signature is removed.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on November 04, 2016, 12:47:36 AM
A cursory glance at this guys farmed account's posts shows low quality.
Anemed  -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=665297  
But still, this week he walks straight into a sig spot run by yahoo (SMAS)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1656122.80

A slightly deeper look reveals a repeat copy paster. Copying his own BS posts, time and time again.

Is gold better than Bitcoin?
Both are equal to me. I buy golds with bitcoin earnings. Though these prices fluctuate, though these two have same values, they differ in few scenarios. Gold is a physical coin and Bitcoin is a digital currency. Gold at times are stolen outside. Compared to gold, bitcoin is more safe though it is sometimes hacked from few users who have not yet set security in their systems.
Is gold better than Bitcoin?
I love Gold as well as Bitcoins. I love to buy golds with bitcoin earnings. Though Their prices fluctuate, though they two have same values, they differ in few scenarios. Gold is a physical coin and Bitcoin is a digital currency. Gold at times are stolen outside. Compared to gold, bitcoin is more safe though it is sometimes hacked from few users.
Is gold better than Bitcoin?
Both has equal values. I mingle both. I buy golds with bitcoins. Though these prices fluctuate and have same values, they differ in the followings. Gold is a physical coin and Bitcoin is a digital currency. Gold at times are stolen outside. Compared to gold, bitcoin is more safe though it is sometimes hacked by unknown from few users accounts which are not secured as directed by the sits. Its the user who safeguards his earnings.
Is gold better than Bitcoin?
I admire both. I like to buy golds with bitcoin earnings. Though these prices fluctuate, though these two have same values, they differ in few scenarios. Gold is a physical coin and Bitcoin is a digital currency. Gold at times are stolen outside. Compared to gold, bitcoin is more safe though it is sometimes hacked from few users who have not yet set security in their systems as directed by the wallet sites.  

or,
bitcoin affects life a lot
Its not affecting. Its supporting my life a lot. I am spending 4 to 5 hours in earing btc. This earning is used for all my expenses. Though I am employed in a reputed organization, the salary I receive is well enough only for clearing my personal loans, credit card bill and house rent. I lack money for my family expenses. Hence, this small money received every week, supports my family.
bitcoin affects life a lot
I would say it is supporting my life a lot instead of affecting. I am spending 4 to 5 hours in earing btc. This earning is used for all expenses. Though I am employed in a reputed organization, the salary I receive is well enough for clearing my personal loans, credit cards and house rent. I lack money for my family expenses. Hence, this small money received every week, supports my family.  
bitcoin affects life a lot
I would say it is supporting my life a lot instead of affecting. I have just started to earn bitcoins. I am spending almost 3 to 4 hours everyday after coming back from work. I too wish to earn more bitcoins as like other in this forum. Want to enjoy the benefits of bitcoins and share the same thing with my friends to make their life very supportive with bitcoins.
bitcoin affects life a lot
It is good to hear, all say bitcoin has supported and made their life easier then before. I have just started to earn bitcoins. I am spending almost 3 to 4 hours everyday after coming back from work. I too wish to earn more bitcoins as like other in this forum. Want to enjoy the benefits of bitcoins and share the same thing with my friends to make their life very supportive with bitcoins.

or,
If i give you 10 BTC what will you do?
Really a big money 10 btc tempting a lot. This is really impossible to earn very soon. It requires hard work and dedication. In order to fill our wallets with at least 1 btc now, requires minimum 3 to 5 months. Need to focus on posting and earning from a signature campaign. Need to rank up to earn more bitcoins. I would love to save the earnings now until at least see a good amount in my wallet.
If i give you 10 BTC what will you do?
I would love to save the earnings now until at least I see a good amount in my wallet. It would be very nice to have the 10 btc now which is not possible without any hard work here in this forum. In order to gather or earn 1 btc, I really need to focus in posting and earning from a signature campaign. So would be happy like others if at least 2 btc is given as a reward point.
If i give you 10 BTC what will you do?
Its really tempting to have the 10 btc now which is not possible without any hard work here in this forum. In order to gather or earn 1 btc, I really need to focus in posting and earning from a signature campaign. I just started my work here as a Member. Need to rank up to earn more bitcoins. I would love to save the earnings now until at least see a good amount in my wallet.

And this pattern continues thoughout his post history.
SMAS need to pull their socks up.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on November 04, 2016, 08:49:51 PM
note to smas
thanks yahoo for accepting me in this signature campaign  :)

Banned them both, thanks!

wibuindon still has a signature, so not banned.
(can an account have an avatar if banned? ie PieCrafted)

yahoo has today "black listed" wibuindon, like SMAS is doing us a favour.
No point blacklisting the banned.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on November 05, 2016, 06:45:02 AM
He temp banned wibuindon. Avatars still show when permabanned for some reason (as do email addresses I believe (if made public)).


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: sulendra12 on November 10, 2016, 01:59:48 AM
Well this guy deserved to get banned dafitseason2 (he was copy/paste from above member post) < this from Indonesian board

kalau mau yang bersih dan clean
ya ikut aja signature campaign yang non gambling site, bisa mixer coin(contoh bitmixer), altcoin, atau situs2 exchanger(liqui,yobit dll nya)
di sini ane ga akan menjawab pertanyaan ente tentang signature campaign gambling halal atau tidak, karena pasti nanti malah menimbulkan perdebatan


ya ikut aja signature campaign yang non gambling site, bisa mixer coin contohny bitmixer, altcoin, atau situs2 exchanger liqui,yobit dll
di sini gua ga akan menjawab pertanyaan lu tentang signature campaign gambling halal atau tidak, karena pasti nanti malah menimbulkan perdebatan


Proof : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1337973.msg16829057#msg16829057



Another proof (dafitseason2) credited to DimensionZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16825513#msg16825513)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674877.0

is there any chances for members from other country?
And can we use VPN service?
I am so interest with your service, thank you in advance


is there any chances for members from other country?
And can we use VPN service?
I am so interest with your service, thank you in advance

maybe like that -_-
 

Cheers !!



Another proof have been added . :) . I think it's enough

#3 and #22 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1672946.0

I'm up for this can you send me more details please about what I need to do I and if yo want more people to do this you  to pay the first person that does it and shaw a link on here so we all now you will pay then you might get more people to join up.

more details please about what I need to do I and if yo want more people to do this you  to pay the first person that does it and shaw a link on here so we all now you will pay then you might get more people to join up.



This type of member , just making Indonesian's name more worse than before.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: darklus123 on November 12, 2016, 11:32:12 AM


I really do hate stealing ideas. I came across to a point while reading bitcoin discussion thread

reference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652815.380 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652815.380)

I won't support this idea, simply because bitcoin has already many place to be put on and that is bitcoin wallet, 3rd party wallets. In my own opinion you dont have to make a tangible thing for a non-tangible one. So a non-tangble bitcoin is good for a non-tangible wallet. Good bye and let's not welcome bitcoin banks.


While reading you absolutely do know your idea well. So i started doubting i just let it pass because maybe we think about the same idea but still it would always came up to my mind that it was really something that i've also said before. So i reviewed my previous post and this guy really suck everything out.

Here is the post of mind and this kiddo obviously copy pasted my post, well added some "flavored" words. I just want to have some justice  ;)

reference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652815.160 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652815.160)

Absolutely not, simply because bitcoin has already a place to be put on and that is nitcoin wallet. In my own opinion you dont have to make a tangible thing for a non-tangible one. So a non-tangble bitcoin is good for a non-tangible wallet


And guess what this sentence does not makes you cool either dude.

Good bye and let's not welcome bitcoin banks.

I want to investigate further but i was just to lazy lol. Yet i believe that this does make sense already.
 


copy paste, should have put it in my "mod copy paste and others" thread!

farmed account, what do you expect?  :D

So i supposed to post it here. Farmed accounts , that also my second thoughts about this one but i just did not labeled it since i still dont have evidence


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Lauda on November 12, 2016, 11:33:44 AM
@Poster above
Komodo employing copy-paste spammers; no actual surprise there. Yes, copy-paste is a permanently bannable offense. I do wonder whether this is some semi-advanced bot rehashing previous posts, or a standard farmer just altering the content from previous pages a bit.

P.S. You may want to remove some of that spacing in your post, it's using up a lot of space for no purpose.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: darklus123 on November 12, 2016, 11:40:29 AM
@Poster above
Komodo employing copy-paste spammers; no actual surprise there. Yes, copy-paste is a permanently bannable offense. I do wonder whether this is some semi-advanced bot rehashing previous posts, or a standard farmer just altering the content from previous pages a bit.

P.S. You may want to remove some of that spacing in your post, it's using up a lot of space for no purpose.

Done sorry for that tho i was having a hard time on that one because of the limited spacing while using my phone. Anyway back to the topic, I supposed this user was already banned


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Lauda on November 12, 2016, 11:42:32 AM
Done sorry for that tho i was having a hard time on that one because of the limited spacing while using my phone.
It is fine, no need to apologize!

Anyway back to the topic, I supposed this user was already banned
You don't seem to be aware of how things work around here. Only *some* global moderators and admins can ban users of this rank. Bans have been very slow the past couple of days, so this might take a while.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: darklus123 on November 12, 2016, 11:48:21 AM


You don't seem to be aware of how things work around here. Only *some* global moderators and admins can ban users of this rank. Bans have been very slow the past couple of days, so this might take a while.


That's a bad thing then. I wasn't really educated about the things on this forum, I was thinking that a staff like you can banned users regardless of the rank. This kid can continue gaining amounts, does anyone here already tried sending a pm to the campaign manager of komodo to atleast ban then from campaign or do manager seems to not care? Well i guess ill be doing it myself


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Lauda on November 12, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
That's a bad thing then. I wasn't really educated about the things on this forum, I was thinking that a staff like you can banned users regardless of the rank.
Nope. Some staff members are patrollers which means that they can only *nuke* newbies and that is it.

This kid can continue gaining amounts, does anyone here already tried sending a pm to the campaign manager of komodo to atleast ban then from campaign or do manager seems to not care? Well i guess ill be doing it myself
I have PM'd Komodo a while back regarding the spam in their campaign. They have some *unknown* person as their campaign manager that somewhat was hesitant to do a cleanup. After a minor discussion with him, they did not respond. I also doubt that they will take action considering their campaign closes in 8 days, but you can most certainly try.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on November 12, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
copy paste, should have put it in my "mod copy paste and others" thread!
farmed account, what do you expect?  :D
So i supposed to post it here. Farmed accounts , that also my second thoughts about this one but i just did not labeled it since i still dont have evidence

Sorry, not on the 500+ list yet, but evidence posted here ready,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16817072#msg16817072


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: darklus123 on November 12, 2016, 12:08:50 PM
@lauda thanks for the info tho ,Up




copy paste, should have put it in my "mod copy paste and others" thread!
farmed account, what do you expect?  :D
So i supposed to post it here. Farmed accounts , that also my second thoughts about this one but i just did not labeled it since i still dont have evidence

Sorry, not on the 500+ list yet, but evidence posted here ready,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1597201.msg16817072#msg16817072

Well it seems that i am not goint to like this kind of attitude and that certain topic you presented i am going to fight this kind of  sh*t.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: longbob72 on November 16, 2016, 06:26:58 PM
Bump. yakdivine copy pasting lots of posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682994.msg16896706#msg16896706
Quote
The markets are showing the hope in the future potential of the ethereum network and ecosystem. There is a growing sense that Ethereum can do what bitcoin does and there is a panic to clamber onto the bandwagon.”
http://themerkle.com/eth-price-goes-up-since-bitfinex-announcement/


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682634.msg16892886#msg16892886
Quote
Bitcoin, has surged from $640 to $720 in the past one week. The digital currency has been exhibiting some promising trends this year, in spite of facing drastic setbacks following multiple hacking incidents. As Bitcoin price continues to rally upwards, the expectations for the digital currency’s performance in the coming year is at an all-time high movement in 2017.my prediction for 2017 is bitcoin will likely trade above $1,000.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/10/30/five-reasons-bitcoin-1000-2017/


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1682634.msg16892647#msg16892647
Quote
So much so that 15% of banks world wide expect to widely implement blockchain, which is a ledger of transactions updated in real time by various institutions, by next year, according to the report which surveyed 200 global banks.

These banks, mostly medium to large-sized institutions, are focusing their blockchain technology on three areas: consumer lending, retail payments, and reference data, which refers to the real-time information sharing of transactions across business divisions and institutions.

In four years, IBM says that 66% percent of banks expect to have blockchain in commercial production and at scale.
http://fortune.com/2016/09/28/blockchain-banks-2017/


There's more in their post history. Burn this vermin.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on November 16, 2016, 06:42:56 PM
Banned. Thanks.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: darklus123 on November 16, 2016, 06:53:18 PM
It was i guess week after i reported this account and when i do look at again it is still alive lol.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809461


Does it take this long for this one?
Well i hope that the mods were able to saw it.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: longbob72 on November 16, 2016, 07:02:00 PM
It was i guess week after i reported this account and when i do look at again it is still alive lol.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809461


Does it take this long for this one?
Well i hope that the mods were able to saw it.


It looks dead to me. Last active two days ago and profile's empty (signature and other profile info gets wiped on permaban).


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Cyrus on November 16, 2016, 08:35:30 PM
It was i guess week after i reported this account and when i do look at again it is still alive lol.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809461


Does it take this long for this one?
Well i hope that the mods were able to saw it.


It looks dead to me. Last active two days ago and profile's empty (signature and other profile info gets wiped on permaban).

He is permabanned.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on January 28, 2017, 09:14:30 AM
i think bitcoin can never help  to the poor country while it can help to the poor people pf the world . because a man will use his mind to earn money with particular stretgy while the people pf whole country will not do the same , many of them will try to gamble and will loss their money .
copy paste by Darmo Gandoel
I think bitcoin can never help  to the poor country while it can help to the poor people pf the world . because a man will use his mind to earn money with particular stretgy while the people pf whole country will not do the same , many of them will try to gamble and will loss their money .

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I do not think so, bitcoin are required gadgets and internet connection to access and to work with and if the people in that poor country can not afford that i think bitcoin can not help them.
chop? copy paste by wibuindon
I think poor countries can help by bitcoin if the people in poor country have pc or gadget and internet connection, if the people in that poor country can not afford that i think bitcoin can not help them.

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I only choose Bitcoin wallet because the transactions from one wallet to other is instant and have low transaction fees. And If the price of Bitcoin increases I will be making profits......
chop? copy paste by wibuindon
I prefer bitcoin wallet because the transactions from one wallet to other is instant and have low transaction fees and If the price of bitcoin increases I will be making profits, so i prefer bitcoin wallet.
note to smas
thanks yahoo for accepting me in this signature campaign  :)
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Why wibuindon not banned?
Why kakir not banned?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163169.msg17649402#msg17649402

One is all you need. One copied post = one permaban.
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Bump. yakdivine copy pasting lots of posts.
.....
There's more in their post history. Burn this vermin.

Last active, (but not posting) January 2017?


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: botany on January 28, 2017, 11:47:49 AM
Why wibuindon not banned?
Why kakir not banned?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163169.msg17649402#msg17649402

One is all you need. One copied post = one permaban.

Both have been perma-banned now.  :)
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #570130
Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #206086


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: LeGaulois on January 28, 2017, 03:48:14 PM
If you never ever win from the start, I suggest you to stop gambling. I think you are serious on getting your loses back but if you try to get your loses back you'll end up loses everything.  But if you still want to gamble after your past experiences then just stop for a while, take some time to think what's best to do, know your limits. Well in my experience I did invested again and ended up losing the new amount also so you should invests carefully again.

original post

If you never ever win from the start, I suggest you to stop gambling. I think you are now serious on getting back your losses and it can lead you in losing everything. But if you still want to gamble after your past experiences then just stop for a while, take some time to think what's best to do, know your limits. Well in my experience I did not let my earnings to be wasted in gambling anymore, for I know that I'm not lucky enough in winning there.

I don't think "gambling" should be considered a sickness in itself.  I enjoy gambling as entertainment.  Playing a game of cards and putting in $10 a game, is much more entertaining and enjoyable than paying $10 to go match movies or to spend on perfumes or other nonesense. .  Gambling addictions, is another thing though.  Addiction is  a sickness
original post
I don't think "gambling" should be considered a sickness in itself.  I enjoy gambling as entertainment.  Playing a game of cards with my friends and putting in $10 a game, is much more entertaining and enjoyable than paying $10 to go to the movies to me.  Gambling addictions, on the other hand, is another thing though.  Addiction is  a sickness.

I agree with you, people who are very addicted to gambling, they know gambling hurt themselves and people around and still do even repeatedly. I think they those people should do gambling for an additional income and not for a living as that can be too risky for him and his family. But i suppose if one gets addicted to gambling first it is impossible for him to come out of that. I hope all those addicted gamblers realise the risks involved.
original post
I agree with you, people who are addicted in gambling can be called a compulsive gambler. It was just right for people who are very addicted to gambling, they know gambling hurt themselves and people around and still do even repeatedly. Maybe you're really gambling is a relaxing game and not be too dependent on it. But if too relaxed without self-control will become addicted, and it is the same. I think most important thing is self-control, so do not gamble beyond the ability and still within reasonable limits.

I think something like this happened to many people around the world. Easy money is something we all like, but casinos are not made to give cree money to us. It is full of risks.
People should be careful how much money they give for gambling. After your big win , why you didn`t continue to play same strategy with same bets?

Gambling can be addiction, like many other things in this world.
original post
I think something like this happened to many people around the world. Easy money is something we all like, but casinos are not here to give us money.
People should be careful how much money they give for gambling, and that is one big truth! I see OP had one big win, I had it too but I didn`t put back all my money tomorrow! I learned that lesson long time ago, when I win big, I don`t rise bets in order to win even more, that is moment when we are going down! After your big win OP, why you didn`t continue to play same strategy with same bets?

Gambling can be addiction, like many other things in this world. Addiction is when you are concentrated about one thing, and you forget about everything else. People should be abstinent with everything, and in that case no one will have big problems! Do things for fun in your life, and everything will be alright!

It's depend from country to country and theirs laws.

In mine, we have to pay tax only if we buy from a person living in my country. So mostly it isn't a strict law to actually pay but most of them never pay. And also there is only tax if we purchase 20 bitcoin or more on a single day so many people just purchase 19 bitcoins daily.
Some of us buy it with Paypal to hide it. There are laws but aren't so strict if we purchase with credit card or bank transfer no tax.

It's depend from country to country and theirs laws.

In mine, we have to pay taxs if we make profits with the price. (Let's say you buy at 700$ and sell at 800$). As long you don't sell your bitcoin then no taxs.
Some of us buy it with Paypal or others, to hide what we are doing with it so in case they control, they see the money is sent to paypal, not to an exchange platform.
I remember a period some banks were blocking banks transfers to Kraken telling us "risk fraud" LOL who asked your opinion ::)


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on January 28, 2017, 03:59:14 PM
They were already reported and banned https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1762676.msg17600815#msg17600815


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: LeGaulois on January 28, 2017, 04:01:36 PM
ok didn't know as i see
Last Active:   Today


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on January 28, 2017, 04:09:01 PM
You can still log in when banned just not post. It's best to see if they've made a post recently and if they haven't in a while then they're likely banned.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: botany on January 28, 2017, 04:32:27 PM
You can still log in when banned just not post. It's best to see if they've made a post recently and if they haven't in a while then they're likely banned.

Going forward, I hope this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735965.0) thread also serves as a reference.  :)


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: LeGaulois on January 28, 2017, 06:31:29 PM
You can still log in when banned just not post. It's best to see if they've made a post recently and if they haven't in a while then they're likely banned.

Going forward, I hope this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735965.0) thread also serves as a reference.  :)

Good, didn't know about it
They should make a special badge for banned accounts

https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/legendary.gif


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 08:12:05 PM
Snipped - Completely useless guide on how to spot banned accounts

Going forward, I hope this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735965.0) thread also serves as a reference.  :)

I respect your work on this, but alas it is of little help in my work. (as i think you know and stated such)

I have 100's more farmed accounts ready to publish, but those accounts have not posted in a while.
I still cannot tell if they are banned.
I don't want to be "humiliated" by publishing "already" banned accounts. Old news.

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on January 30, 2017, 08:20:21 PM
Any ideas?

Yeah, get a new hobby.



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 08:55:46 PM

theymos just can't can get the staff these days.  ::)

How was your guide to finding banned accounts helpful or definitive?
- watch for a bit, if the account don't post for a while it is probably banned, or it might not be banned.

Tough to watch an account forever before deciding not to act.
Really tough to watch 1000 farmed accounts forever, just incase you ban 1.



Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: hilariousandco on January 30, 2017, 09:08:48 PM

theymos just can't can get the staff these days.  ::)

What does this even mean?

How was your guide to finding banned accounts helpful or definitive?
- watch for a bit, if the account don't post for a while it is probably banned, or it might not be banned.

Whilst certainly not definitive, it's usually a good indication of a ban when they mysteriously stop posting.

Tough to watch an account forever before deciding not to act.
Really tough to watch 1000 farmed accounts forever, just incase you ban 1.

Again, get a new hobby.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: rizzlarolla on January 30, 2017, 09:21:32 PM

It's a play on words? Maybe i'm missing Lauda.


How was your guide to finding banned accounts helpful or definitive?
- watch for a bit, if the account don't post for a while it is probably banned, or it might not be banned.

Whilst certainly not definitive, it's usually a good indication of a ban when they mysteriously stop posting.

pfft. Rubbish.

Tough to watch an account forever before deciding not to act.
Really tough to watch 1000 farmed accounts forever, just incase you ban 1.

Again, get a new hobby.

Thanks for the help and the interest in this. (i believe that is irony?)


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Dabs on January 30, 2017, 09:24:55 PM
Make a script to watch the 1000 farmed accounts. Run it on a VPS or a VM or something like that. Program an "expiration" so that you don't literally watch it forever.

A new hobby is probably a better idea.


Title: Re: Mod copy paste's - and others
Post by: Quickseller on February 16, 2017, 01:03:57 AM
I wish there was a script for this because copy and pasting is rife and quite difficult to spot especially if you're not looking out for it and it's extremely time-consuming to do so. The only real way to catch them is to copy a few fairly unique words or a typo that stands out and put them in the search but even they can bring up pages of results along with all the posts that have quoted it. They tend to do it in the big threads with 40+ pages but not exclusively.
You could probably ask acho101 to build a script that parses, say the middle 10 words of each post in a thread, and run a google search with those words. I would think it would make it a lot easier to search entire threads for copy/paste posts as the search results would show either multiple posts or news articles that match the post (nearly) exactly.