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Bitcointalk promotion: Every new user gets $5 worth of stakes in Whalt FOR FREE. https://whalt.net/register (https://whalt.net/register)

Hello everyone,

Whalt is a trading bot. It receives data from a multitude of API’s, platforms, social media accounts and forums. All the information combined is used to make calculated decisions on the bitcoin & altcoin market.

Whalt is looking around on the internet 24/7 to search for indicators when a new coin is about to get released/updated. Whalt is doing this by looking on Github’s, forum’s, Slacks, Social media accounts and via search queries.

You gotta have money to make money. And that’s true for Whalt too. While it’s great to make money because we can anticipate big market movements, Whalt can really shine when it has lots of capital to influence that same market. That’s why we accept new investors at the moment of writing. Help Whalt and yourself.

Learn more about Whalt:
https://whalt.net/features (https://whalt.net/features)
https://whalt.net/faq (https://whalt.net/faq)
https://whalt.net/how-does-it-work/ (https://whalt.net/how-does-it-work/)

We also offer a referral program. Signup and receive your personal referral link. If you signup a new user, you will receive 15% of their future investments!

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them.

If you are interested, please make sure you signup early. We won't be accepting new users when we've collected enough capital.

Thanks,
Whalt


https://whalt.net/register (https://whalt.net/register)

Interesting.  How are you different from an elaborate ponzi scheme?  How do I know if there actually is a bot that is trading, and how can I be assured that my investments will be returned?

Because ROI in 2 months, then pure profit onwards, is simply too good to be true.
Do you have any credibility to back you up?

Great questions. A lot of them are answered here: https://whalt.net/how-does-it-work/ (https://whalt.net/how-does-it-work/)

Assurance is unfortunately very rare on the internet. Thats why we are offering $5 worth of stakes so you can get to know our service.

Further more, we are planning to also start blogging about developing the algorithm and go in-depth into how Whalt itself works, including code examples. This would be a great way to influence young people to start coding, plus to show we are a capable group of programmers.

Thanks for answering so quickly.
Stakes last forever, correct?  I just don't see how paying 0.02774 BTC a year to every free user (lets say you have 1000 free users, that would be 27.74 BTC/year) is viable for your business.
How can someone purchase a stake that will just continuously generate profit?  What if the bot goes wrong and loses a large sum of money, what happens then?

You make some valid points.

Yes, stakes last forever. We can continuously generate a profit by investing your first sum of bitcoin. Every day, we give you as base amount of bitcoin with an additional bonus, depending on how much that day was earned. We also keep a percentage for ourselves, to further invest in Whalt and as a way to be able to guarantee the base amount of bitcoin. On the rare days we lose money, you can still expect a payment.

Furthermore, we are absolutely not planning to give away $5000 worth of stakes. I suspect we will stop the promotion after the first 100 signups. This is to ensure Whalt receives enough attention without risking too much.

Let's give it a try.
Your explanations looks reliably, and $5 is $5 ;)

I already registered. It looks like reward is not coming automatically to balance. How we can claim free amount?

What is so hard to understand?  You got $5 worth of stakes, which is 4 stakes at the moment.  They provide daily payouts.

Question is how you will be able to give base amount
per stake on the days your bot actually make lose. Will you be paying it from your pockets?

Also it says min daily profit 0.000019BTC per stake, how you guys have calculated this number to be the minimum profit you guys can make daily with trading?

Trading bot. I don't know if your bot is one of those Ponzi schemes who use to scam people. But if some legendary member verifies it then i can use it

Last trading bot i saw gave free shares or cash or whatever you want to call it and before users can hit ROI they run away with shatever new users invested.

Bitcointalkusers,

We had a little problem in the script which handled the payment of bitcoin. This is fixed now, sorry for the inconvenience. Everything is up and running again, but it is possible you've received some extra emails.

Thanks,
Rick from Whalt

I am also quite suspicious about this service because they are giving 5$ worth of shares which may take more than 80 days to be paid to your bitcoin address so in that 80 days they can easily collect more than they have given in this promotion.

I am still waiting for my questions to be answered i have asked few post above. They are also showing top gains and top loss for the day which i think is taken directly from exchange platform rather than from their trading account.

That is absolutely not our intention. We've build an sustainable trading bot. Please read more about us here: https://whalt.net/how-does-it-work/

Be sure to signup now to get a temporary bonus.



We've calculated the base amount after months of testing the algorithm. We are confident we can earn the base amount every day with price of 1 stake. On days Whalt cannot earn this, we have a reserve of extra bitcoin earned on good days to compensate our investors. This is to ensure a continuous flow of bitcoin to our investors and to make the most of our capital.


The list of best and worst investments are generated by Whalt every day, based on his performance. We use these numbers to calculate the additional bonus users will receive that day.

 We have to make deposit of $5 in order to get daily profit 0.000019. based it's small amount of profit seems to me as ponzi scheme.

 do you make a test with your bot system in the trading market? if yes how many of fund you test with it and amount of profit you got?

Are you able to provide proof of the actual bot in action?  Because anyone can claim that they have a bot. :-/

I have to say I bit time skeptic when I see these get rick quick schemes. It does sound like ponzi big time cause no video of the bot in action, no verifiable data of people behind it and all in all no verifiable proof of any kind. It still can be legit but you re gonna have to work hard to provide some kind of proof before I d even consider investing into something like this.

What about manual withdrawals? If I'm not mistaken there is only automatic payment - I can not find a manual option.
Is it possible to withdraw from the investment - I mean if is possible to sell stakes and withdraw funds?

https://whalt.net/faq/#qe-faq-808
It seems possible but don't invest in this program. There is no screenshots or trading videos showing real trading bots in action. I think this is still risky investment and possible ponzi with very high return. Fixed high profit rate per day sound too good to be true.

I agree with the post above.. If you have any credibility from the people trading in our behalf or the bot actually using API on any exchanges then maybe I'd believe.

What videos you want to see? How would you ever know if the bot is in the action or Op is sitting in the corner with a bluetooth mouse clicking at a speed of light ? What ponzi ? What Investment ?
Mate,he is selling a bot.How's that a ponzi ? Do you know what a definition of ponzi is ?

Actually take a look at the platform here https://whalt.net/pricing/ and what they are selling is stakes, not trading bots and you will get fixed base amount and almost 10%+ per week return on your stakes, don't you think this is too high return to be true. I am just being suspicious not calling this completely ponzi.

Whalt is selling stakes, which just represent the amount you've invested which Whalt can use to make profit.

Whalt lives fully from the command line and uses the API's of various trading sites to place and sell our orders. Whalt does this based on information which is also retrieved using API's, webscrabers, social media account and more sources.

I registered and would just like to try and see how it works. I have now 4 stakes but how do I invest them? I went to the investment page but can't chose a plan. Are there any information on how to do it?

Thanks

You are actually already done! You will now receive daily payments, according to Whalt results.

Ok, but I don't understand how that all works. Am I currently in the First Investor Plan because I have 4 stakes? Would I get into the Beginners Investor Plan when I have 200 stakes? Is that correct?

It is in your interest to buy more stakes at once, as they will become cheaper. The stakes itself are all the same, they earn the same amount of interest.

Are you willing to verify that there is in fact a trading bot?  Like showing a history of trades on exchanges like poloniex?  If you are willing to provide proof I'd be happy to verify for you.

I have already sign up.

It's makes me confused with the investment plan explanation, all plans gives min. 0.000019BTC daily, but min. invest different for every plan, i used your calculator for count it, i input 200 stakes(beginners investor plan) and get 0.00380000BTC daily payout, it's means min. 0.000019BTC daily payout is just for per 1 stakes right, so that's a possibility if i choose beginners plan i earn min. daily payout?
Since i know trading bot actually not always accurate.


It's need invest first before we can earn daily payouts?

They made it so that you'd get "discounts" on your stakes depending on the amount you buy.  The price per stake is lowered the more you buy.

your write title in thread about trading bot
but iam visit your site only investment site
maybe you use scheme ponzy system
and you write is free 5 dollar new member, can get withdraw without investment

so this not actually an bot that sucks but good luck. Im looking for bot. Peace love crypto!

Ok, now I understand your system. I won't invest to much since I don't have to much money to make investments. I registered to try out your system and see how it works, also because you give 5$ to test it :D
We will see how it goes :)
Is it possible to spend the earned satoshi in buying new stakes?



The FAQ states that you need to reach 0.01BTC for a payout!

I received an email saying that I received my daily payment of 8.332E-5 btc. This with only 4 stakes. I have no idea how it comes to this number. Would be nice  if you could say how that exactly works. I expected to get 0.000076 after a day, regarding your information within the investment plan.
I recommend to change from 8.332E-5 to maybe 0.00008332 representation. It's easier to read ;)

Looks like you are only one here that does not know what a ponzi is. How is that even possible ? You must be really dumb or maybe an alt of OP ? Anyway in case you are just dumb let me explain it to you. He is selling nothing actually. You do not have access to his "bot" or whatever. His only goal is to make many people invest and when they do his will run away with their money. Simple as that. Of course there will be people that he will pay for single reason, to post on the thread that they actually received payments and try to fool even more people into investing. Everyone here saw it many times so nothing really new about this thread.

What about selling stakes?
If someone buy now for example 100 stakes, is it possible to sell them and withdraw funds? Or it works like life time contract?

They mentioned before that the stakes are refundable (minus all profits) at any time, but I don't think they are transferable.

On the website you have described in the normal way - 0.00008332. Anyway this earnings are changing everyday.
Im already 7 days registered here and earnings from 4 stakes are from 0.00007796 to 0.00008796 daily.


I had to miss it.. But how it can be possible sell everything minus all profits? If for example someone already had payouts (few times 0.01BTC) do they will count all this earning and subtract from withdrawal amount..?  ::)

Yes it will be easy for them to look at all your account history and withdrawal so that they may just subtract that amount from your investment as mentioned in their faq. However if they are just using your investment for real trading why should they have to subtract the profit they have paid out everyday based on their profit? There is no point for them to subtract the amount they have made profit using your investment.

Ok, let's say we get everyday 0.00007796. To reach 0.01BTC, which is the payout, it will take 128 days. With 0.00008796 it will take 113 days. Will take some time xD

For now it's not really clear if this is really a bot or not. Might be a ponzi or not. Most of you could anyways register. You get 4 stakes for free and within 113 days you get 0.01 BTC without doing anything. It's not much but maybe it will help these guys. You don't know. There is nothing you lose. That's my opinion.


Btw: I saw that you changed the number representation in the email :) Makes it better.

This thing look nice..
Will be using the free $5 worth of stakes to see how this goes.
Overall it doesn't look bad,hope is not a ponzi fucked up scam.

Did you have a problem yesterday evening or something? I got some messages which I don't understand.
First: New payout: 0.00025600. But I did not receive it.
Second: I got payed 5 times instead of 1 time, summing up to 0.00041920.

I would like to now what happened. Where did the 0.00025600 go and why I got 5 times payed?

On my end situation is evon more strange..
At the beginning I also had a strange payments, but the overall result was correct. Until today..
Yesterday my balance was ~0.0005BTC,
Today my balance is 0.0004192BTC
So around 8000 satoshi less

What is going on?

Oh yea, that's true :O If you could some information please let us know :) Even if there is a bug in the system.

Something did happen yesterday. There was a problem in the script which should send your balance to your btc address. A settings was setup wrong and this caused the issue. We had a solution within 10 minutes and most users ended up with a slightly higher balance, which we paid out of our own pocket.

If you've a lower balance than you should, please open a ticket within the Whalt (support). We will fix it for you.

Alright, thank you for the information.

How comes that they should have been send to the btc address? I haven't reached the 0.01 BTC yet.

While the payouts and messages were send and saved, there is a fail-safe in place. We got a message of this action and fixed the situation.

Alright, thank you for the information :)

Hey, is it possible that you answer my inquiries on the previous page?  Would be greatly appreciated.

To be honest with you guys! You had a good idea! But trying to promote that sh1t on Bitcointalk was very risky idea..

We all know that you create Ponzi. There is no doubt! Just leave Bitcointalk, and don't take our time..


Edit/

Confirmation from well known friends welcome.
Regards.

I don't think that it is fair to say something like this. I agree with you that it is a risky idea and without a proper proof of the bot (which is difficult) most of us will see it as a ponzi. It is our experience with sites like this. On the other hand, what if they really come up with a good trading bot but they are doing something like this for the first time and don't know how to present it as a legit investment site? It is hard to say.
You are saying:
He is not taking your time, right? It was your decision to spend time with their site and project. I am also spending some spare time on this, just out of interest and curiosity. You never know what people have :) Maybe they share one day some parts of it ;)

it seems he has not provided any evidence about it

Maybe I used strong words. But without them, we do not receive any confirmation or proof that this service is legit.

If you will have to choose only one option, which you will choose now?
1. It is legit service
2. It is Ponzi scheme

I think you have just answered the question, why my earlier post look like it looks.

As I said already: I agree with you. I see it as a ponzi too, because there is nothing which would proof us wrong - for now. We will see how it goes and maybe they proof you and me wrong or not. We should wait and see what the admin is going to say :)

Admin: What is the current plan? Anything you guys are working on? Something you can show us?

Well since he avoid monbux's request to show any real proof like trade history (which would be easy to do if he really have bot) I'm now completely sure this service is ponzi. I wasn't sure before but yeah... Don't get me wrong, I'd like for OP to prove me wrong and post some proof.

We will show proof ofcourse, but we cannot give too much away, there are multiple trading bots around and we want to keep Whalt the best. I will reply when I have more time.

We've just pushed out a big update to the algorithm. Tests show us the results received using this new algorithm are upto 2% higher.

Great, please actually provide enough proof to show that there is a bot in the works though.
Trade history would also be key.

Now this sound quite technical, hope you will atleast show some proof so that we can believe on you guys. I think you better also tell about yourself, we would like to know who are actually behind this project.

Understandable that you can't give too much away.

It sounds promising and I hope that everything goes good for you :)

This is getting pretty sketchy for me.. How much do you have on hand trading already if you were just giving these stakes for free?
Because if what you're giving us are percent profits from your existing balance on an exchange then this is quite absurd as all of us with 4 stakes
have a growing balance..

Please show more transparency.. maybe total fund and proof of trades..

I registered about 2 weeks ago and got so far 0.00131948BTC and I am able to pay out at 0.01BTC.

The price for one stake is 0.0017BTC. Is it possible for me to invest the 0.0017BTC as soon I reach it?

I tried to with my balance but there doesn't seem to be an option for it.
I'm more than halfway till payout and hope that I'll actually get the BTC but it's not the best of signs that the OP hasn't been online for 2 weeks.

Furthermore, I've received an additional 9 shares from referrals and my daily payments have not gone up at all.

Yea, I am wondering if the OP is on vacation or something. I also had a look and did not see an option.

Even after your refs bought something, you still get the same daily amount?

Yes but I just checked again, it still pays me above the amount it had specified (1900 satoshis/stake) at about 100 - 200 satoshis more.

Oke, that's weird. I wonder what is going on there.
It would be nice if you could tell me if you got your BTC or not, since you reach the payout earlier than me. I just hope that it's not a HIYP or something like this. I am tired of these things...

Will do buy the fact that the OP has not been on for weeks is not the best of signs.  I'm 60% through getting a cashout so I'll be sure to post on this thread once I do try cashing out.

Anything new about the payout? I am at 50% of getting a cashout, hopefully. I doubt that something will happen, because it's so quiet here :(

It looks really not good..
User "Whalt" Last Active:   December 22, 2016, 10:36:51 PM
It is almost 2 months!
Website looks like works normally, but it somehow don't calm me.
I also today went through the border of 50% to withdraw.
Let's keep our fingers crossed!

Did you invest anything into whalt? If it's not working working out, happens. I did not invest money here and that's it would not hurt me :D But it would be nice to see that it works and they are putting effort into it. Haaizz :(

Few times my finger was rounding over "buy" button, but I thought I'd better wait a while. It looks like it was good decision, and I stay there only with 4 promo stakes.
I also stop promoting this service at least untill OP come back to clarify this situation a bit..

Yea, I know the feeling :D Was also thinking of getting some stakes but then was like, nahh, let's wait a bit and see. Let's see if monbux  is going to answer. He had around 60% in the beginning of the year. Maybe he can give is some more information if it all worked out.

I also look forward to an update of information by monbux. Hopefully he will withdraw accumulated revenues.
Anyway I wrote ticket to support, maybe they can forward information with request for explanation. We'll see ..

I follow this thread since December last year and until now I do not see any good results, OP disappears constantly and so far nobody has posted proofs of payments... I will follow up for another month to see how everything will end.

I was hoping this would be a good business opportunity, but with each passing day I begin to doubt

Yea, I know what you mean. I have currently 0.005178 BTC. There is still a bit to go till payout. As soon I get there I will let you know if it worked or not.

Sorry for updating late.
They still haven't automatically paid me out (there is no option to request a manual cashout), and I have almost 0.02 BTC.

I'd say it's safe to say that it is a scam.

Oh oke. That's said to hear :(
As you said, we could consider it as a scam and dead.

Same bad news from my side. I still didn't reach minimum to withdraw (now I have around 0.0067 btc) but three weeks ago i send ticket to support about that thread and that we have a lot of questions. No answer till now.

It looked like an interesting project. Too bad that it turned out in scam.

I second your opinion, reached the payout requirement and still no payout.
Also went ahead and created a ticket... 9 days ago and still no reply.

I will say i like the proposition created by this type of payout system and might use this structure in some way at BITVoxy.com.

So you want use this "payout system" because you liked the new idea of cheating people?  :( Or you just want advertise your website? ;)

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Just as an update - on my account is 0.00844868 - we will see..

Really? He s selling a bot? A trading BOT? As if a piece of software where you can set up parameters and let it trade for you? Show me where that piece of software is? All I see is a webpage asking for investments so the owner can do something about it and magically generate ROI withing couple of months. You really tell me this DOES NOT SMELL FISHY TO YOU?

You are aware that this is from December? :D
We all know that this is not working because several people are already over the payout threshold but did not receive anything ;)

I am still receiving daily earning notification on my email but my earning is under threshold amount, so i haven't tried withdrawing them out. I have already blocked their email so that i will not get bothered.

This one is already proven as just another SCAM.

Yea, same for me. Receiving their email but some stated already that they don't pay out.
Couldn't this be closed here?

Calm down, guys! Only users that bring referrals can have opportunity to earn over 0.01 without investment. Till now no one show here withdrawal confirmation ID, so we can comment this thread only in one word:

SCAM

And let's wait for any confirmation, because idea in my opinion was good ;)

heh - Before I hadn't seen Ponzi made in that way ;)

Was it really that hard to identify this as a scam? Cmmon people, 56 days ROI, in Wonderland maybe!!!!

I really cannot understand why would people invest their own money into something so obviously false and scam. It must be some mix of greed and stupidity. Money falls down from the sky, it s openly available to anyone, so let me get rich doing nothing and it s so so easy.

Yup.. I have over 0.01 BTC in there now and its still not sending my balance..