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Title: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: TheIrishman on December 16, 2016, 11:04:15 PM
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If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: kodes88 on December 17, 2016, 01:28:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


If a nuclear war in the future, and all countries actually use their best nuclear, then believe me there will be no safe place to be occupied. Radius of Nuclear could reach hundreds of kilometers, can even reach thousands of kilometers. As nuclear created USA and Russia. Nuclear also will spoil everything, including animals, plants, water, air and even humans. Nuclear war is a small apocalypse. Earth will not be a safe place to live, if there are no tools that could minimize the impact of nuclear, then the earth will die, slowly, there would be no life on earth.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Seansky on December 17, 2016, 05:55:28 AM
If a nuclear war broke out, there ain't a safe place here on earth except on the underground deep below. It will just be safe for around a minute or so and after that, I think it will not be safe. I really do hope that nuclear war won't happen in the near and far future since surviving this kind of war seems like a very hard thing to do, if this happens all living things on earth might be extinct or destroyed. We might survive it but what about the food and water afterwards, there will be a shortage for sure.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 17, 2016, 03:45:50 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
If a nuclear war broke out, there ain't a safe place here on earth except on the underground deep below. It will just be safe for around a minute or so and after that, I think it will not be safe. I really do hope that nuclear war won't happen in the near and far future since surviving this kind of war seems like a very hard thing to do, if this happens all living things on earth might be extinct or destroyed. We might survive it but what about the food and water afterwards, there will be a shortage for sure.

Hm, I think that Mountains in Tibet could be a great  place to chill while the bombs are flying over.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 17, 2016, 04:22:08 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.

I've opened a world map to find a nice play to chill at and Tuvalu(since it's far in the ocean), Chile (surrounded by mountains), Fiji (also a remote island) and yes antarctica. :D Those are  just some of the right away obvious countries that I've found.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Balthazar on December 17, 2016, 04:47:49 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.
There is nothing to be afraid of. Most of nuclear weapons are far more ecologically friendly than the so-called conventional weapons. Fission products of the common nuclear explosion have very short half-life, just wait few hours and you will be able to visit epicenter of the explosion without putting your health into danger. Wait few weeks and there will be almost natural level of radiation.

Unlike nuclear weapons, conventional explosives are far more dangerous in terms of pollution. Just for example, TNT is a very poisonous and stable substance. TNT and its decay products are accumulating in the plants and animals, causing genetical disorders, leukemia and so on.

http://www.messynessychic.com/2016/02/17/the-canary-girls-and-the-wwi-poisons-that-turned-them-yellow/

There are some places which are uninhabitable since WW2 because of the TNT and other "conventional" substances.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 17, 2016, 05:07:07 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.

I've opened a world map to find a nice play to chill at and Tuvalu(since it's far in the ocean), Chile (surrounded by mountains), Fiji (also a remote island) and yes antarctica. :D Those are  just some of the right away obvious countries that I've found.

I don't think that Chile will be a safe place, as it is a major country in the Latin America. They will be participating in the world war, unlike the small Pacific nations such as Tuvalu. Fiji is also having agreements with the NATO. 


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: zero1ten on December 18, 2016, 05:04:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


I don't think there would be a safe place if ever a nuclear war breaks out because if that happens it will cause a nuclear winter that will block the sunlight from entering the atmosphere for years thus all the plants on earth will die and soon the domino effect will take place from animals going extinct because of lack of food and then all humanity will fall as well.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: 8ouch on December 18, 2016, 05:06:00 PM
Underwater  ::)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 18, 2016, 05:24:25 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.
There is nothing to be afraid of. Most of nuclear weapons are far more ecologically friendly than the so-called conventional weapons. Fission products of the common nuclear explosion have very short half-life, just wait few hours and you will be able to visit epicenter of the explosion without putting your health into danger. Wait few weeks and there will be almost natural level of radiation.

Unlike nuclear weapons, conventional explosives are far more dangerous in terms of pollution. Just for example, TNT is a very poisonous and stable substance. TNT and its decay products are accumulating in the plants and animals, causing genetical disorders, leukemia and so on.

http://www.messynessychic.com/2016/02/17/the-canary-girls-and-the-wwi-poisons-that-turned-them-yellow/

There are some places which are uninhabitable since WW2 because of the TNT and other "conventional" substances.

That is an interesting point... I have always wondered why the Japanese decided to rebuild the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima after the WW2. Your explanation answers that question. Many thanks.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on December 18, 2016, 07:05:08 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.
There is nothing to be afraid of. Most of nuclear weapons are far more ecologically friendly than the so-called conventional weapons. Fission products of the common nuclear explosion have very short half-life, just wait few hours and you will be able to visit epicenter of the explosion without putting your health into danger. Wait few weeks and there will be almost natural level of radiation.

Unlike nuclear weapons, conventional explosives are far more dangerous in terms of pollution. Just for example, TNT is a very poisonous and stable substance. TNT and its decay products are accumulating in the plants and animals, causing genetical disorders, leukemia and so on.

http://www.messynessychic.com/2016/02/17/the-canary-girls-and-the-wwi-poisons-that-turned-them-yellow/

There are some places which are uninhabitable since WW2 because of the TNT and other "conventional" substances.

That is an interesting point... I have always wondered why the Japanese decided to rebuild the cities of Nagasaki and Hiroshima after the WW2. Your explanation answers that question. Many thanks.
So, TNT is more dangerous after the initial explosion in terms of the environment then nuclear weapons? That's something new, i always hear people screaming about the fallout etcetera...


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: audaciousbeing on December 18, 2016, 10:16:02 PM
This is really a call for concern especially at a time where countries now test their powers based on the numbers of nuclear weapons in their arsenal but for me and quite a number of people in the world I don't think there is a place to run to we just keep hoping that someone does not get mad and start testing the fireworks as for op, I dont know how connected he is because I have watched videos of how US have buildings and locations that can withstand such attack so he could be one of the beneficiaries of such facility.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: crwth on December 18, 2016, 11:18:08 PM
I think no one would be safe with a nuclear war on going. If you have a vault, you could. It's going to be one hell of a time to live if that happens. It would be sad to see some people that would want to eradicate a country just because of an argument


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 19, 2016, 09:38:29 AM
I thought nuclear weapons were old hat, isn't the future with Electromagnetic Pulse Weapons?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: schamas on December 19, 2016, 10:01:23 AM
Best Place is Australia, already has radiation from earth's magnetic field. :D
Noone think to hit that place,


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Losvienleg on December 19, 2016, 11:00:40 AM
Africa or a small island lost in the immensity of the ocean. There you will risk nothing. In Africa there's nothing to bomb and in the island no one will ever find you if you chose the good one. And even if, they won't bomb you.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: just_Alice on December 19, 2016, 12:52:13 PM
Easter Island in the South Pacific would be one of the safest places on Earth as the article suggests and I agree with that. I'm wondering whether people are already buying real estate there. After a nuclear war the Earth would be a bad place to live anyway so let's hope that will never happen.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2016, 02:09:08 PM
Africa or a small island lost in the immensity of the ocean. There you will risk nothing. In Africa there's nothing to bomb and in the island no one will ever find you if you chose the good one. And even if, they won't bomb you.

With a population of over 1 billion, Africa represents one of the greatest reserves of manpower, for a potential world-wide conflict. So the warring sides will be attempting to remove this resource, by nuking Africa.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Slow death on December 19, 2016, 02:55:33 PM
So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


Iceland.

https://i.imgur.com/tORXJZp.png

A great place for someone to hide

Africa or a small island lost in the immensity of the ocean. There you will risk nothing. In Africa there's nothing to bomb and in the island no one will ever find you if you chose the good one. And even if, they won't bomb you.

With a population of over 1 billion, Africa represents one of the greatest reserves of manpower, for a potential world-wide conflict. So the warring sides will be attempting to remove this resource, by nuking Africa.

The world today is very different from 80 years ago, there are many African Millionaires who are partners/owners of big companies that are in Europe and America, it will not be so simple to see all Africans as cattle


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Casabrandy on December 19, 2016, 03:02:09 PM
I think outer space is the most safest place if nuclear was used and explode on earth. Donald trump must contact aliens and make an arrange to transfer humans to other planet.  ;D

This far to happened ATM. I think all nation know what will be the outcome if they start a nuclear war. All nation will suffer and there will be no victor if next world war occur


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BADecker on December 19, 2016, 03:11:55 PM
In general, away from industrialized, populated areas. Try unpopulated mountainous areas for valleys where you can grow your own food. Oceans (small islands) might be good, for fish and ocean plant food, if you can find a reasonable source of water.

8)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: novemberwoah on December 19, 2016, 03:15:08 PM
I'm sure you know in second world war the nuclear bomb dropped on two Japanese cities (Hiroshima and Nagasaki). Japan destroyed by several years due to the impact of nuclear radiation. Current nuclear bombs have exploded more than 70 megatonnes of TNT. If a nuclear war that would be fatal for the life of the world. The resulting radiation would kill so many people. I think there is no safe place for sure the whole place will be affected by the radiation will be very big. So that nuclear war should not happen in the world.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: iluvbitcoins on December 19, 2016, 03:19:35 PM
Mariana Trench probably  :D

If we're talking countries, first we would need  to define who is included in this nuclear war
We must find neutral countries, with sufficient defenses + you would need to buy some basements and food stash etc.  :D

I was thinking Switzerland but they're in the heart of Europe, where it's too risky, radiation spreads easily

Madagascar is a good option, no strong rivals who would have someone to bomb nearby  :)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: iamTom123 on December 19, 2016, 04:06:05 PM
If a nuclear war broke out, there ain't a safe place here on earth except on the underground deep below. It will just be safe for around a minute or so and after that, I think it will not be safe. I really do hope that nuclear war won't happen in the near and far future since surviving this kind of war seems like a very hard thing to do, if this happens all living things on earth might be extinct or destroyed. We might survive it but what about the food and water afterwards, there will be a shortage for sure.

You are correct...there would be no safe place if nuclear war will finally happen between nuclear-carrying nations. Most probably if you can find a very remote small island that may not be found on the map then mostly it can be safe for humans. Nuclear war will be the final act humanity would do to extinguish himself. Will it happen? Yes, it will as there is no man-made weapon that was never used in the history of man.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2016, 05:10:47 PM
Mariana Trench probably  :D

It is a god option, but I don't know whether human life can be sustained at that depth. The water pressure will be overwhelming, and it will crush any human made structures within a short period of time.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: v1ryspro on December 20, 2016, 06:13:38 PM
Easter Island in the South Pacific would be one of the safest places on Earth as the article suggests and I agree with that. I'm wondering whether people are already buying real estate there. After a nuclear war the Earth would be a bad place to live anyway so let's hope that will never happen.
In the event of nuclear war there will be people who will not be affected by this madness. Environmental issues touch the whole earth. In addition, modern people can't live without the benefits of civilization.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: gabmen on December 21, 2016, 05:01:51 PM
well nuclear war is going to be a whole lot different from what we had during the 2 previous world wars. in the previous wars you can go to a neutral country like up extreme north or extreme south and you'd be spared the horror. i don't think that would be even closely the same if a nuclear war would start. i don't think there would be any place that will be safe or anyone as the damage it would cause would be Armageddon  level. it would affect everyone everywhere and there won't be any place we can go to to avoid it. so hopefully the leaders of all our nations would somehow find it important that it's not worth having a nuclear war for any reason at all.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: PetroffVany on December 21, 2016, 06:32:38 PM
well nuclear war is going to be a whole lot different from what we had during the 2 previous world wars. in the previous wars you can go to a neutral country like up extreme north or extreme south and you'd be spared the horror. i don't think that would be even closely the same if a nuclear war would start. i don't think there would be any place that will be safe or anyone as the damage it would cause would be Armageddon  level. it would affect everyone everywhere and there won't be any place we can go to to avoid it. so hopefully the leaders of all our nations would somehow find it important that it's not worth having a nuclear war for any reason at all.
I'm pretty sure that a nuclear Apocalypse does not threaten us. No leader will not go to the destruction of their country. Also, I bet that even if you give the order to launch missiles first military themselves will block start.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BitcoinPicasso on December 22, 2016, 04:10:51 PM
There is no place to hide from a nuclear winter. If you were smart enough to horde food and water and hide well you still have to worry about the radioactive crap in the atmosphere. Then when you run out of food and water you'll have to use the radioactive water and plant crops in radioactive soil. I don't think this is a survivable event. The human race and many animal species will disappear. It could be 100,000 years before earth could recover and start the whole evolution thing over again.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: merchantofzeny on December 22, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
Tristan de Cunha perhaps? Pretty isolated so you wouldn't have to worry about survivors flooding in. Of course it's quite tiny and when the nuclear winter sets in you might have a harder problem getting to crops grow. It might still be far from fallout though, if that can be called a bonus.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: btvlGainer on December 22, 2016, 04:26:54 PM
Tristan de Cunha perhaps? Pretty isolated so you wouldn't have to worry about survivors flooding in. Of course it's quite tiny and when the nuclear winter sets in you might have a harder problem getting to crops grow. It might still be far from fallout though, if that can be called a bonus.
When America was a power failure it was horrible! Imagine how you will live on a remote island without any creature comforts? What will you have? Where is the guarantee that water will not bring radiation is not an island?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 22, 2016, 04:38:13 PM
Tristan de Cunha perhaps? Pretty isolated so you wouldn't have to worry about survivors flooding in. Of course it's quite tiny and when the nuclear winter sets in you might have a harder problem getting to crops grow. It might still be far from fallout though, if that can be called a bonus.

Tristan de Cunha  is pretty much isolated. But it is a very small island, and most of it is a natural reserve where human habitation is not allowed. Even the remainder of the island is not suitable for agriculture.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: varyspro on December 22, 2016, 04:46:15 PM
Tristan de Cunha perhaps? Pretty isolated so you wouldn't have to worry about survivors flooding in. Of course it's quite tiny and when the nuclear winter sets in you might have a harder problem getting to crops grow. It might still be far from fallout though, if that can be called a bonus.

Tristan de Cunha  is pretty much isolated. But it is a very small island, and most of it is a natural reserve where human habitation is not allowed. Even the remainder of the island is not suitable for agriculture.
Even if we assume that there will be a lot of land for agricultural production, what to do with radioactive fallout? A nuclear winter? In such conditions it is impossible to grow crops. Where are you going to take an agricultural instrument?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Hiren74 on December 22, 2016, 04:51:04 PM
No one can hear you scream in outter space ;)

I think the real question is what could you do with no one left on the planet accept die yourself.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 22, 2016, 04:52:31 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.

I've opened a world map to find a nice play to chill at and Tuvalu(since it's far in the ocean), Chile (surrounded by mountains), Fiji (also a remote island) and yes antarctica. :D Those are  just some of the right away obvious countries that I've found.

I don't think that Chile will be a safe place, as it is a major country in the Latin America. They will be participating in the world war, unlike the small Pacific nations such as Tuvalu. Fiji is also having agreements with the NATO. 

That doesnt mean anything, Greece is in NATO but wasnt bombing Serbia back in '99, they can stay out of that since one bomb can wipe out their entire nation. Chile, in case it doesnt go to war it could be a safe space due to the mountains surrounding it.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 22, 2016, 04:53:30 PM
No one can hear you scream in outter space ;)

I think the real question is what could you do with no one left on the planet accept die yourself.


Well I don't think there would be any planet left in that case. There still could be some islands here and there unaffected by the nuclear war and some people that took shelter there.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: varyspro on December 22, 2016, 04:56:43 PM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.

I've opened a world map to find a nice play to chill at and Tuvalu(since it's far in the ocean), Chile (surrounded by mountains), Fiji (also a remote island) and yes antarctica. :D Those are  just some of the right away obvious countries that I've found.

I don't think that Chile will be a safe place, as it is a major country in the Latin America. They will be participating in the world war, unlike the small Pacific nations such as Tuvalu. Fiji is also having agreements with the NATO. 

That doesnt mean anything, Greece is in NATO but wasnt bombing Serbia back in '99, they can stay out of that since one bomb can wipe out their entire nation. Chile, in case it doesnt go to war it could be a safe space due to the mountains surrounding it.
In the case of a global nuclear war will be no winners. And to hide or escape from the consequences also fail. I think it would be better if the topic was about how to do so on earth ever could happen is a nuclear war.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 22, 2016, 04:57:45 PM
The safest place would be not on this world.
Hit the moon there you will be safe.
Anywhere in space off this rock actually because the fallout will get to you eventually.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 22, 2016, 05:13:07 PM
Tristan de Cunha perhaps? Pretty isolated so you wouldn't have to worry about survivors flooding in. Of course it's quite tiny and when the nuclear winter sets in you might have a harder problem getting to crops grow. It might still be far from fallout though, if that can be called a bonus.

Tristan de Cunha  is pretty much isolated. But it is a very small island, and most of it is a natural reserve where human habitation is not allowed. Even the remainder of the island is not suitable for agriculture.
Even if we assume that there will be a lot of land for agricultural production, what to do with radioactive fallout? A nuclear winter? In such conditions it is impossible to grow crops. Where are you going to take an agricultural instrument?

If there is wide-spread radioactive fallout, then I am afraid that agricultural production needs to be moved underground. Now this require artificial lighting and electricity. And once again, nuclear energy will come in to play.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: igorokavg13 on December 22, 2016, 07:28:40 PM
Tristan de Cunha perhaps? Pretty isolated so you wouldn't have to worry about survivors flooding in. Of course it's quite tiny and when the nuclear winter sets in you might have a harder problem getting to crops grow. It might still be far from fallout though, if that can be called a bonus.

Tristan de Cunha  is pretty much isolated. But it is a very small island, and most of it is a natural reserve where human habitation is not allowed. Even the remainder of the island is not suitable for agriculture.
Even if we assume that there will be a lot of land for agricultural production, what to do with radioactive fallout? A nuclear winter? In such conditions it is impossible to grow crops. Where are you going to take an agricultural instrument?

If there is wide-spread radioactive fallout, then I am afraid that agricultural production needs to be moved underground. Now this require artificial lighting and electricity. And once again, nuclear energy will come in to play.
Who will produce electricity on the island under the earth? Not really! The land to fertilize? To the same person for life, you should consume a variety of foods. How underground it is possible to achieve diversity.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Tyrantt on December 23, 2016, 03:38:12 AM
I don't think that the radiation fallout will reach Antarctica. Also, the ice sheets are some 2,000 meters thick in some places. So establishing a subterranean base in that continent may be the best way to stay alive during the WW3.

I've opened a world map to find a nice play to chill at and Tuvalu(since it's far in the ocean), Chile (surrounded by mountains), Fiji (also a remote island) and yes antarctica. :D Those are  just some of the right away obvious countries that I've found.

I don't think that Chile will be a safe place, as it is a major country in the Latin America. They will be participating in the world war, unlike the small Pacific nations such as Tuvalu. Fiji is also having agreements with the NATO. 

That doesnt mean anything, Greece is in NATO but wasnt bombing Serbia back in '99, they can stay out of that since one bomb can wipe out their entire nation. Chile, in case it doesnt go to war it could be a safe space due to the mountains surrounding it.
In the case of a global nuclear war will be no winners. And to hide or escape from the consequences also fail. I think it would be better if the topic was about how to do so on earth ever could happen is a nuclear war.

There would be no winners, but there would surely be survivors. SO if I were to runaway somewhere, I'd probably go to Oceania since there are thousands of islands and there are a few countries nearby that would be the target of nuclear bombs.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: freebutcaged on December 23, 2016, 03:41:47 AM
The question should be why more than 7B people's lives has to be in hands of a few individuals to decide if they have the feelings in their guts to whether start a dooms day war or not?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 23, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
There would be no winners, but there would surely be survivors. SO if I were to runaway somewhere, I'd probably go to Oceania since there are thousands of islands and there are a few countries nearby that would be the target of nuclear bombs.

Pacific islands are an attractive option, but most of these islands are already over-populated, and I don't think that the natives will enthusiastically welcome foreigners to their nations. On top of that, the global warming and the melting of the polar ice caps have reduced the supply of drinking water in many of these islands, making them uninhabitable.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: notbatman on December 23, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
https://i.sli.mg/3Jh963.jpg
S1E23

They'll piss on you and tell you it's raining; when your cellphone signal is zilch you're safe.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Klima on December 23, 2016, 04:20:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2ZzuzgU.jpg

They'll piss on you and tell you it's raining; when your cellphone signal is zilch you're safe.
No life on earth if there is a nuclear conflict. Just not that simple. In Japan after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not all the people died after the Chernobyl disaster is also not so bad it turned out. But the check is not advised.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 04:26:06 PM
No life on earth if there is a nuclear conflict. Just not that simple. In Japan after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not all the people died after the Chernobyl disaster is also not so bad it turned out. But the check is not advised.

Modern nuclear weapons are much more powerful than the atomic bombs which were dropped over Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There are bombs, which can wipe out all forms of life from the earth in a matter of few seconds.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Perle on December 23, 2016, 04:49:24 PM
No life on earth if there is a nuclear conflict. Just not that simple. In Japan after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not all the people died after the Chernobyl disaster is also not so bad it turned out. But the check is not advised.

Modern nuclear weapons are much more powerful than the atomic bombs which were dropped over Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There are bombs, which can wipe out all forms of life from the earth in a matter of few seconds.
It is not known. Everything is based on the assumption of scientists. Besides, no one knows how much in the event of nuclear war warheads will reach the goal. I do not recommend this experience, but the chance is always there.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 04:57:59 PM
No life on earth if there is a nuclear conflict. Just not that simple. In Japan after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not all the people died after the Chernobyl disaster is also not so bad it turned out. But the check is not advised.

Modern nuclear weapons are much more powerful than the atomic bombs which were dropped over Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There are bombs, which can wipe out all forms of life from the earth in a matter of few seconds.
It is not known. Everything is based on the assumption of scientists. Besides, no one knows how much in the event of nuclear war warheads will reach the goal. I do not recommend this experience, but the chance is always there.

Even if just one nuclear-tipped missile reaches its target, out of the dozens launched, it will signal the end of humanity in this planet. The modern day air-defense systems are very advanced... but still, they are not 100% effective.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Kotone on December 23, 2016, 05:06:33 PM
In desert is the best and safest place on earth that you will make your home once there are nuclear war happen on this earth maybe this will destroy all cities and neighborhood besides no one will know when this happen lol but hoping that it will not happen at all i want want our mother earth will destroy.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: electronicash on December 23, 2016, 05:10:39 PM
Underwater  ::)

you will still be alive 30 minutes of nuking every surface. but you may mutate after it. once you get out of the water, you'd be surprise to see yourself look like kermit the frog on the mirror. would you like that or would you chose to die among the rest?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 05:14:42 PM
In desert is the best and safest place on earth that you will make your home once there are nuclear war happen on this earth maybe this will destroy all cities and neighborhood besides no one will know when this happen lol but hoping that it will not happen at all i want want our mother earth will destroy.

I don't think that even the most remote desert will be safe in case of a nuclear war. Remember the Chernobyl disaster? Children in Sweden and Norway, living many thousands of kilometers away from the reactor got cancer as a result of fallout from radioactive Cesium.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: canah17 on December 23, 2016, 05:35:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


Well its really scary if that happens to my country i mean its nuclear it has the name of clear means clearing your country dang! that's damn scary but we have to go to the main topic so ill start :) when that happens i will go to a cave or the sea to be safe and not get hit by the nuclear but its hard because i live in the city -_- so if they will warn us that they will nuc so i would really dig a hole and stay their until the nuclear will arrive then if that's case the toxic of the nuclear will spread around my country so its hard to dodge that i mean its gas smoke its im possible unless you have a cover on your face but still i would go to a military base and take shelter their because they have extreme protection from the nuclear they are prepared for it they have a machine to handle nuclear :D that's what ill head for :D how about you?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ekaterina77 on December 23, 2016, 05:44:44 PM
In desert is the best and safest place on earth that you will make your home once there are nuclear war happen on this earth maybe this will destroy all cities and neighborhood besides no one will know when this happen lol but hoping that it will not happen at all i want want our mother earth will destroy.

I don't think that even the most remote desert will be safe in case of a nuclear war. Remember the Chernobyl disaster? Children in Sweden and Norway, living many thousands of kilometers away from the reactor got cancer as a result of fallout from radioactive Cesium.
I watched a program on TV about Chernobyl and it said that actually the consequences of this accident was not so terrible as suggested by scientists. And mutation of plants and animals there. There are people who never left this area and still live.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: digaran on December 23, 2016, 05:52:22 PM
Under our blankets, :D :D :) :) there is a website which uses google map and you can select a nuclear bomb to be detonated on any place on earth and then you can see the effects, one other website that I can't remember again had a simple map just showing the nuclear bomb detonations tests around the world by playing a note and lighting up a small dot on screen and showing the year and the country responsible, just saying that it turned into a music video damn thing because of too many notes was playing and dots dancing on the world map lol.
It will only take 50 (satan2) to destroy the earth entirely , but hey according to them "flat earthers" nukes are fake :).


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 05:56:45 PM
I watched a program on TV about Chernobyl and it said that actually the consequences of this accident was not so terrible as suggested by scientists. And mutation of plants and animals there. There are people who never left this area and still live.

I wouldn't downplay the aftermath of that disaster. Although only 31 people were killed as a result of direct exposure, many more died as a result of indirect causes. And a huge number of people became ill, or handicapped.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: TicTacTic on December 23, 2016, 06:04:16 PM
I watched a program on TV about Chernobyl and it said that actually the consequences of this accident was not so terrible as suggested by scientists. And mutation of plants and animals there. There are people who never left this area and still live.

I wouldn't downplay the aftermath of that disaster. Although only 31 people were killed as a result of direct exposure, many more died as a result of indirect causes. And a huge number of people became ill, or handicapped.
I'm not arguing that, but also there are animals and plants which are there all the time since the accident and don't hurt. This means that people react differently to radiation. But the catfish that live on the station? Feel great!


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Gasturcas on December 23, 2016, 06:11:06 PM
If nuclear war broke out, the safest place on Earth is inside an underground bunker. A bunker is a defensive military fortification designed to protect people or valued materials from falling bombs or other attacks especially if there is a Nuclear break out. This is the safest because It can cope under pressure that lasts for several seconds after the shock wave passes, and blocks radiation.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ovvidiy on December 23, 2016, 07:39:57 PM
If nuclear war broke out, the safest place on Earth is inside an underground bunker. A bunker is a defensive military fortification designed to protect people or valued materials from falling bombs or other attacks especially if there is a Nuclear break out. This is the safest because It can cope under pressure that lasts for several seconds after the shock wave passes, and blocks radiation.
Affects your limitations! And then what? Where will you get food and water? Medicines, doctors, equipment.....For life will not be reserved! In the event of a nuclear war, you will have the choice of either die immediately or die in agony later.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: asdin66fa on December 24, 2016, 11:29:27 AM
Escape from the earth, outer space is the safest, if you can survive here.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: gabmen on December 24, 2016, 11:48:51 AM
If nuclear war broke out, the safest place on Earth is inside an underground bunker. A bunker is a defensive military fortification designed to protect people or valued materials from falling bombs or other attacks especially if there is a Nuclear break out. This is the safest because It can cope under pressure that lasts for several seconds after the shock wave passes, and blocks radiation.
Affects your limitations! And then what? Where will you get food and water? Medicines, doctors, equipment.....For life will not be reserved! In the event of a nuclear war, you will have the choice of either die immediately or die in agony later.
You're right. Nowhere here on earth is safe in case nuclear war breaks out. Even if you're in a fortified bunker dude. If that nuke hit your spot directly have you seen the craters made by nuke detonations? And there are also a lot to consider in case you survive that. First is radiation. I've seen pictures of radiation victims and it's pretty scary. Also nukes destroy almost anything in it's wake so that's goodbye to our basic necessities. So let's just hope the leaders of this world realize the chaos that a nuke war would bring


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: notbatman on December 24, 2016, 12:25:42 PM
https://i.sli.mg/8z5lhe.jpg

When you're out of cell range they can't "nuke" you.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ivanpoldark on December 24, 2016, 12:52:20 PM

I am sure that this will be the southern hemisphere countries such as Argentina and New Zealand.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 24, 2016, 01:06:57 PM

I am sure that this will be the southern hemisphere countries such as Argentina and New Zealand.

What makes you think that these nations will escape from nuclear war? New Zealand maintains very close relations with the United Kingdom and the other NATO-bloc nations. Argentina is entangled in a territorial dispute with the United Kingdom, over the Falkland Islands (the Argentines call these islands as Isla Malvinas).


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: STFU! on December 24, 2016, 01:13:40 PM
well, that is the end of the world..there is now way you can hide/run for that. except you are an scientist that can neutralize the radiation .but still Bomb effect can make you into pieces or dust . Biological weapon is more dangerous than we taught :-\


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: notbatman on December 24, 2016, 04:10:11 PM
https://i.sli.mg/3Jh963.jpg
S1E23

They'll piss on you and tell you it's raining; when your cellphone signal is zilch you're safe.
No life on earth if there is a nuclear conflict. Just not that simple. In Japan after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki not all the people died after the Chernobyl disaster is also not so bad it turned out. But the check is not advised.

https://i.sli.mg/e9lpdi.jpg

FYI Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fire bombed and most of the deaths were Chinese and Korean slave-workers.

Chernobyl is a safe place, the ionizing radiation they fuck you with at work caused by industrial HID florescent tubes is more hazardous than the background radiation in that city. They're just fear-mongering to support the atom bomb "super weapon" hoax.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 24, 2016, 04:49:06 PM
well, that is the end of the world..there is now way you can hide/run for that. except you are an scientist that can neutralize the radiation .but still Bomb effect can make you into pieces or dust . Biological weapon is more dangerous than we taught :-\

It is not possible to neutralize the radiation, at least with the current technology. On the other hand, it is possible to escape from biological weapons, using vaccinations and medications.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BADecker on December 24, 2016, 05:12:56 PM
well, that is the end of the world..there is now way you can hide/run for that. except you are an scientist that can neutralize the radiation .but still Bomb effect can make you into pieces or dust . Biological weapon is more dangerous than we taught :-\

It is not possible to neutralize the radiation, at least with the current technology. On the other hand, it is possible to escape from biological weapons, using vaccinations and medications.

It IS possible to escape the radiation. Right now, the winds from the southern hemisphere generally remain separate from the northern hemisphere winds. Keep the bombs in the north, and it will take a long time for the radiation to penetrate to the south.

In addition, there are a few places in the world where the prevailing winds would keep the radiation from ever reaching.

8)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Alfa123 on December 24, 2016, 05:55:26 PM
well, that is the end of the world..there is now way you can hide/run for that. except you are an scientist that can neutralize the radiation .but still Bomb effect can make you into pieces or dust . Biological weapon is more dangerous than we taught :-\

It is not possible to neutralize the radiation, at least with the current technology. On the other hand, it is possible to escape from biological weapons, using vaccinations and medications.

It IS possible to escape the radiation. Right now, the winds from the southern hemisphere generally remain separate from the northern hemisphere winds. Keep the bombs in the north, and it will take a long time for the radiation to penetrate to the south.

In addition, there are a few places in the world where the prevailing winds would keep the radiation from ever reaching.

8)
And the water? Radiation with water can also spreading around the world. It all depends on the scale of the war itself. If you explode a few nuclear warheads, a place of escape will remain, and if long would be bombed, then the whole earth can dirty it.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 24, 2016, 06:10:30 PM
well, that is the end of the world..there is now way you can hide/run for that. except you are an scientist that can neutralize the radiation .but still Bomb effect can make you into pieces or dust . Biological weapon is more dangerous than we taught :-\

It is not possible to neutralize the radiation, at least with the current technology. On the other hand, it is possible to escape from biological weapons, using vaccinations and medications.

It IS possible to escape the radiation. Right now, the winds from the southern hemisphere generally remain separate from the northern hemisphere winds. Keep the bombs in the north, and it will take a long time for the radiation to penetrate to the south.

In addition, there are a few places in the world where the prevailing winds would keep the radiation from ever reaching.

8)

The winds can keep these areas radiation-free for only sometime. Gradually, the radiation will spread, through air, water and land. The concentration will vary, but it will be present everywhere.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: pseexh on December 24, 2016, 06:27:23 PM
well, that is the end of the world..there is now way you can hide/run for that. except you are an scientist that can neutralize the radiation .but still Bomb effect can make you into pieces or dust . Biological weapon is more dangerous than we taught :-\

It is not possible to neutralize the radiation, at least with the current technology. On the other hand, it is possible to escape from biological weapons, using vaccinations and medications.

It IS possible to escape the radiation. Right now, the winds from the southern hemisphere generally remain separate from the northern hemisphere winds. Keep the bombs in the north, and it will take a long time for the radiation to penetrate to the south.

In addition, there are a few places in the world where the prevailing winds would keep the radiation from ever reaching.

8)

The winds can keep these areas radiation-free for only sometime. Gradually, the radiation will spread, through air, water and land. The concentration will vary, but it will be present everywhere.
I agree with you. The world is fragile and if it will collapse to hide from this is not possible. Those who hope to hide from the consequences of nuclear war remind me of the believers. To prove that God is impossible but they believe.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: baristor on December 25, 2016, 02:44:23 AM
Dont Worry. That will never happen because.

Nukes dont exist.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: foladgoad on December 25, 2016, 03:58:06 AM
It is hard to imagine which area is safe, nuclear radiation everywhere, it is difficult to survive, transfer to other planets is safe.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2016, 04:16:52 AM
Nukes dont exist.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their lives after the Americans nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tell the same to the millions, who are still suffering from the after-effects of radiation fallout in Japan. It was a crime against humanity, which was never punished. And still we have people, who doubt about the existence of nuclear weapons.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BADecker on December 25, 2016, 05:10:30 AM
At the end of the movie Dr. Strangelove, Major (King) Kong (played by Slim Pickens), rode a nuclear bomb down from the plane that dropped it, until it exploded, starting WW3.

8)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Heutenamos on December 25, 2016, 05:25:54 AM
It depends on which Countries using it too , cause some have extremely huge amounts & some with only bare minimum.

International Space station (It will probably be shifted to somewhere far way) or something like that should be safer i guess.

Musk is creating stuff that could carry hundreds of Tons into the space. Can you imagine why?  ::)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2016, 05:32:45 AM
International Space station. It will probably be shifted to somewhere far way.

Musk is creating stuff that could carry hundreds of Tons into the space. Can you imagine why?  ::)

The International Space Station can accommodate a maximum of six or seven individuals, and even these need constant supplies of oxygen, water and food from somewhere else.

And don't even get started with Elon Musk. He is a complete fraud, who never delivers on his promises. The ISS is still dependent upon the Russian and Japanese rockets for the supplies.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Heutenamos on December 25, 2016, 05:41:59 AM
International Space station. It will probably be shifted to somewhere far way.

Musk is creating stuff that could carry hundreds of Tons into the space. Can you imagine why?  ::)

The International Space Station can accommodate a maximum of six or seven individuals, and even these need constant supplies of oxygen, water and food from somewhere else.


What makes you think that thousands or millions of people can afford life in the times of active Nuclear War ?

And not just ISS but things like that are going to be only opportunity. Obviously no one will be able to continue life like before after nuking Earth. But would be a matter or who lives longer.

I think 2012 movie was a very educated guess.

Quote
And don't even get started with Elon Musk. He is a complete fraud, who never delivers on his promises. The ISS is still dependent upon the Russian and Japanese rockets for the supplies.
The point is he is investing in that stuff. I never said he delivered anything.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: notbatman on December 25, 2016, 08:43:26 AM
International Space station. It will probably be shifted to somewhere far way.

Musk is creating stuff that could carry hundreds of Tons into the space. Can you imagine why?  ::)

The International Space Station can accommodate a maximum of six or seven individuals, and even these need constant supplies of oxygen, water and food from somewhere else.

And don't even get started with Elon Musk. He is a complete fraud, who never delivers on his promises. The ISS is still dependent upon the Russian and Japanese rockets for the supplies.

Can't you see, the whole thing is a fraud. There is no ISS, it's all trickery; underwater tanks, CGI, green screens, rear projection, the vomit comet, professional magicians, high altitude zeppelins and U2's, the rockets all dumped in the ocean or detonated mid flight. It's not real, none of it is real. -- https://youtu.be/WopIZQXnL8k


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Fortify on December 25, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
I'd imagine that nowhere is safe if it turned into a nuclear apocalypse. If you are above ground the nuclear winds would kill you (assuming it had gone off worldwide). You could probably survive underground (outside of the blast radius) but you'd live their your whole life and you won't last years unless you can produce safe food/water/oxygen. It's a shame that nuclear weapons exist, just got to hope that no one is crazy and powerful enough to use them.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 25, 2016, 02:23:37 PM
What makes you think that thousands or millions of people can afford life in the times of active Nuclear War ?

And not just ISS but things like that are going to be only opportunity. Obviously no one will be able to continue life like before after nuking Earth. But would be a matter or who lives longer.

At the most, a thousand individuals may be able to escape from the earth in case of a nuclear war. But even for them, the long-term survival is in doubt. From where they will be able to source the food and water?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Heutenamos on December 26, 2016, 06:29:53 AM
What makes you think that thousands or millions of people can afford life in the times of active Nuclear War ?

And not just ISS but things like that are going to be only opportunity. Obviously no one will be able to continue life like before after nuking Earth. But would be a matter or who lives longer.

At the most, a thousand individuals may be able to escape from the earth in case of a nuclear war.
This is speculation. No one knows how many will survive. What if some entrepreneur starts a service to protect you in such situations ?

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But even for them, the long-term survival is in doubt. From where they will be able to source the food and water?

read the bold part in my post above again.

And what is long-term or short-term ? who sets the numbers? Even if there is no War , you wont live for eternity ,do you ? You are not long-term on earth itself. Also u dont need food and water to survive. There are meds that can keep u alive for many years,though not readily available.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 26, 2016, 11:17:51 AM
Also u dont need food and water to survive. There are meds that can keep u alive for many years,though not readily available.

Rubbish. Medications can't keep you alive for more than a few weeks. You need carbo-hydrates and fat, even if you can get the much needed proteins and vitamins from the medical pills.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: baristor on December 28, 2016, 03:28:31 PM
Nukes dont exist.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their lives after the Americans nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tell the same to the millions, who are still suffering from the after-effects of radiation fallout in Japan. It was a crime against humanity, which was never punished. And still we have people, who doubt about the existence of nuclear weapons.

It's called carpet bombing the allies got good at it while practicing on Germany.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BitcoinPicasso on December 28, 2016, 03:55:30 PM
Dont Worry. That will never happen because.

Nukes dont exist.

This is interesting, do you have any links of why nukes don't exist? Or is this just your opinion on nukes?

Then what was the cold war all about?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: baristor on December 28, 2016, 04:57:28 PM
Dont Worry. That will never happen because.

Nukes dont exist.

This is interesting, do you have any links of why nukes don't exist? Or is this just your opinion on nukes?

Then what was the cold war all about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sULjMjK5lCI

Cold War Distraction obviously.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 30, 2016, 07:08:06 AM
Nukes dont exist.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their lives after the Americans nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tell the same to the millions, who are still suffering from the after-effects of radiation fallout in Japan. It was a crime against humanity, which was never punished. And still we have people, who doubt about the existence of nuclear weapons.

It's called carpet bombing the allies got good at it while practicing on Germany.

Rubbish. Are you claiming that 300,000 people died in Nagasaki and Hiroshima from carpet bombing using conventional weapons? Millions of bombs might have been needed to kill that many through carpet bombing.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: criptix on December 30, 2016, 07:21:28 AM
Nukes dont exist.

Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of people who lost their lives after the Americans nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tell the same to the millions, who are still suffering from the after-effects of radiation fallout in Japan. It was a crime against humanity, which was never punished. And still we have people, who doubt about the existence of nuclear weapons.

It's called carpet bombing the allies got good at it while practicing on Germany.

Rubbish. Are you claiming that 300,000 people died in Nagasaki and Hiroshima from carpet bombing using conventional weapons? Millions of bombs might have been needed to kill that many through carpet bombing.

No but around 600.000 everywhere else through firebombing. Japans industry areas were destroyed through us air raids and so the japs moved their production into urban areas.
Majority of japanese houses were build from wood and paper. Great firework for the USAF.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: popcorn1 on December 30, 2016, 09:30:31 AM
Benyamin nettanyaou or the Bushes suitcases.. ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 30, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
Benyamin nettanyaou or the Bushes suitcases.. ;D

Yeah... Benjamin Netanyahu will be the first prime minister to die in case of a nuclear war. Israel is surrounded on all sides by hostile nations. The only question is from where the nuclear attack will come from. It can either come from Saudi Arabia, or it can be from Iran.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: coolcoinz on December 30, 2016, 12:37:02 PM
Benyamin nettanyaou or the Bushes suitcases.. ;D

Yeah... Benjamin Netanyahu will be the first prime minister to die in case of a nuclear war. Israel is surrounded on all sides by hostile nations. The only question is from where the nuclear attack will come from. It can either come from Saudi Arabia, or it can be from Iran.
Do you really think they have no bunkers in Israel?
You don't need much to survive a nuclear blast, in most cases an underground tunnel or a car park should suffice. 3-4 miles from the ground zero you can survive in a normal basement. A high end fallout bunker can survive a direct hit, meaning that it can be inside the ground zero. Of course it all depends on the size of the warhead.

http://www.radshelters4u.com/blast1.jpg


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Heutenamos on December 30, 2016, 01:54:35 PM
Of course it all depends on the size of the warhead.
lol this phrase changes the meaning of ur post completely  :D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ifightformerkel on December 30, 2016, 07:39:12 PM
The safest place on earth in a nuclear war is far outsight of cities, where the enemy dont see a target that is worth to destroy.
Like in the near of deserts, in the outback of russia russia, in some country in africa, like this.

The dangerous place will be imo complete west europe and cities over 10k people in not european countrys.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on December 31, 2016, 03:41:53 AM
The safest place on earth in a nuclear war is far outsight of cities, where the enemy dont see a target that is worth to destroy.

Many of the defense facilities (such as anti-air missile batteries, ammunition depots.etc) are located far away from the population centers. Also, the most powerful nuclear weapons have a blast radius of several tens of kilometers.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Balthazar on December 31, 2016, 03:59:22 PM
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The treaty was signed during the 1972 Moscow Summit on May 26 by the President of the United States, Richard Nixon and the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Leonid Brezhnev; and ratified by the US Senate on August 3, 1972.

The 1974 Protocol reduced the number of sites to one per party, largely because neither country had developed a second site.[6] The sites were Moscow for the USSR and the North Dakota Safeguard Complex for the US, which was already under construction.

Now you know safest places to live. And don't be afraid of fallout, most of fission products are presented by either extremely short-living or low-radioactive isotopes. I know that some people like to talk about Chernobyl and other nuclear disasters in this context, but generally it is stupid to compare nuclear reactor with a warhead.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Daniel91 on January 01, 2017, 01:04:17 PM
If nuclear war really broke out, Earth will be destroyed and such discussions will be useless.
Who will survive?
Just a few people maybe but what will be their future or future of humankind?
They will probably need to live in their caves for centuries.
Our civilization will come to the end.
I'm sure that all Russian and American leaders understand it very well and this is the reason why nuclear war will never happen.




Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: popcorn1 on January 01, 2017, 01:24:16 PM
Benyamin nettanyaou or the Bushes suitcases.. ;D

Yeah... Benjamin Netanyahu will be the first prime minister to die in case of a nuclear war. Israel is surrounded on all sides by hostile nations. The only question is from where the nuclear attack will come from. It can either come from Saudi Arabia, or it can be from Iran.
If they don't escape no one does ;D..

 Benjamin Netanyahu :D..Are you joking he well be on a plane to some secret island  ;)..
Or a tunnel that shuttles them to an underground bunker or airport base and take off in the air and land somewhere else..

But if they don't escape no one will ;)..

Benjamin Netanyahu technology might be way ahead than missiles..
Like God goes ZAP..Benjamin Netanyahu might go zap to the nukes :D..

ZAP THEM NUKES :D..


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: kodes88 on January 01, 2017, 01:44:33 PM
Dont Worry. That will never happen because.

Nukes dont exist.

Nuclear, what do you mean it does not exist? Nuclear was clearly exist in this world. Perhaps you remember the Chernobyl tragedy in 1986? It was one of the world's largest nuclear tragedy, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, of course. The Chernobyl disaster was the worst nuclear accident in the world in terms of financial losses and casualties. This disaster killed 31 people and require 500,000 workers for the relief effort. deaths due to nuclear radiation could reach 4,000 people, mainly from the hundreds of thousands of members of rescue teams and residents of the cities most contaminated.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: notbatman on January 01, 2017, 01:53:39 PM
Dont Worry. That will never happen because.

Nukes dont exist.

Nuclear, what do you mean it does not exist? Nuclear was clearly exist in this world. Perhaps you remember the Chernobyl tragedy in 1986? It was one of the world's largest nuclear tragedy, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, of course. The Chernobyl disaster was the worst nuclear accident in the world in terms of financial losses and casualties. This disaster killed 31 people and require 500,000 workers for the relief effort. deaths due to nuclear radiation could reach 4,000 people, mainly from the hundreds of thousands of members of rescue teams and residents of the cities most contaminated.

https://i.sli.mg/vm8P3J.jpg

This deadly radiation has reached billions of people.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: coolcoinz on January 01, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
Of course it all depends on the size of the warhead.
lol this phrase changes the meaning of ur post completely  :D
That's because there were some crazy experiments, like the russian tsar bomb.
The pic shows the detonation of 500kt. A typical missile like the US Trident has 300kt warhead, but there are bigger ones with a cluster of 500kt.
Tsar had 50 mt, if someone started mass producing and detonating similar bombs, there would be no place you could hide. A shockwave would destroy everything within 50 miles and cause fires in twice the radius.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: xisklo on January 01, 2017, 03:28:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


New Zealand  
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/c8b374_1eddec1561c8435ea7cd485222443c97.jpg



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Tyrantt on January 01, 2017, 05:45:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


New Zealand  
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/c8b374_1eddec1561c8435ea7cd485222443c97.jpg



well a lot of remote islands like Fiji or lands with huge mountains in it like NZ, Chile,etc can be a good place to go.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: gabmen on January 01, 2017, 05:57:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


New Zealand  
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/c8b374_1eddec1561c8435ea7cd485222443c97.jpg



well a lot of remote islands like Fiji or lands with huge mountains in it like NZ, Chile,etc can be a good place to go.

Well definitely these places are better than most but if it's nuclear warfare I don't think even far flung and isolated places like these would be able to provide shelter as the effects of nuclear radiation covers a whole lot than the directly affected areas. It's really scary as there may really be nowhere safe entirely if a war this scale breaks out.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 02, 2017, 04:40:32 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


New Zealand  

Not sure about New Zealand. NZ is a unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy, under the nominal rule of Queen Elizabeth II. Since the UK is almost certain to be participating in the WW3, I am not sure whether NZ can stay out of it.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: moriskarlov on January 02, 2017, 08:43:30 AM
I also recently found out that New Zealand and Canada are not independent completely. What is that "Queen Elizabeth" protection status means, is it obliges this countries to military alliance with England?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: dippididodaday on January 04, 2017, 07:50:49 AM


Underground is a good bet.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: sergeyzol on January 06, 2017, 08:07:55 PM
The safest place would be place where nuclear boomb didnt fall, and radiation didnt reach. If poslible find some place where there is no radiation and with healty soil, where you could seed something and live in peace. But there are more variables, so its discutabile where is the safest place...
If you start a nuclear war the safest place is in a coffin in the cemetery. And less radiation and nothing to lose. But seriously, from radiation to hide you, and then what? I think that if the war is global there is no chance.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: sergeyzol on January 06, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
The safest place would be place where nuclear boomb didnt fall, and radiation didnt reach. If poslible find some place where there is no radiation and with healty soil, where you could seed something and live in peace. But there are more variables, so its discutabile where is the safest place...
If you start a nuclear war the safest place is in a coffin in the cemetery. And less radiation and nothing to lose. But seriously, from radiation to hide you, and then what? I think that if the war is global there is no chance.

Well that is why i said its debatable. It depends from where are you at the moment of nuclear war, or if its was your country that is hit by it, how far was you. Maybe you could get to boat in time with all resurses for trip to australia or new zeland or some other place like that. And about coffin, well if you were hit by huclear blast or cought by radiatio, you wont need coffin so there is that XD .
Why do you think that Australia or New Zealand will not fall out fallout? A nuclear winter? It all depends on the intensity of nuclear conflict. In General, I don't believe that anyone would dare unleash a nuclear war.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Mersedes on January 06, 2017, 09:49:46 PM
The safest place would be place where nuclear boomb didnt fall, and radiation didnt reach. If poslible find some place where there is no radiation and with healty soil, where you could seed something and live in peace. But there are more variables, so its discutabile where is the safest place...
If you start a nuclear war the safest place is in a coffin in the cemetery. And less radiation and nothing to lose. But seriously, from radiation to hide you, and then what? I think that if the war is global there is no chance.

Well that is why i said its debatable. It depends from where are you at the moment of nuclear war, or if its was your country that is hit by it, how far was you. Maybe you could get to boat in time with all resurses for trip to australia or new zeland or some other place like that. And about coffin, well if you were hit by huclear blast or cought by radiatio, you wont need coffin so there is that XD .
Why do you think that Australia or New Zealand will not fall out fallout? A nuclear winter? It all depends on the intensity of nuclear conflict. In General, I don't believe that anyone would dare unleash a nuclear war.
I do not like when people calculate something is not the end. If you now calculate 98% of what happens and what to do. Where you have a guarantee that will not work, the situation which is part of the 2%? And what will you do in this case?
You are not wrong abouth Australia or New Zealand, but those countrys fell on my mind first because they are far away. And yes probably it wont happen like never. But never forget 3 things that are infinite: universe, "Human stupidity" and winrar trial version... All things i said are hypothetical, so it depends a lot from other factors. :D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bra4our on January 06, 2017, 10:59:49 PM
Africa would be safest place because we are already living like we are in a nuclear war.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BitcoinMarshal on January 06, 2017, 11:20:39 PM
Africa would be safest place because we are already living like we are in a nuclear war.
But I am thinking completely different from you because in my view this could be also most effected area like Asia because many European countries have bases here and they will try to use them and this could be very effected are not a safe place for any one


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: rokkyroad on January 07, 2017, 04:18:53 AM
According to this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/  Australia would be the last to go. Good movie if you have never seen it. "On the beach".


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 07, 2017, 06:07:26 AM
Africa would be safest place because we are already living like we are in a nuclear war.

May be the deserts of North Africa. There is hardly any human inhabitation in that area, and no one is going to nuke it. But it will be a challenge to get water and food there, especially if a large number of people take refuge there.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: RealityTruth on January 07, 2017, 06:17:02 AM
You have completely missed one important fact: Native residents of those 'not affected' areas would try to kill every refugee trying to invade them to protect their land.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BADecker on January 07, 2017, 12:54:56 PM

I do not like when people calculate something is not the end. If you now calculate 98% of what happens and what to do. Where you have a guarantee that will not work, the situation which is part of the 2%? And what will you do in this case?

Im not sure what you wanted to say, but if i understand right you are asking what would i do if 2% happened. Well that is why i said its debatable, too many factors to take in considerating. We could talk like this for 3 days and still wouldnt find solution for every option.

Right. As an example, who is going to bomb mountain ranges? Generally, the population in the mountains is sparse. So, why waste bombs on the mountains. Save the bombs for the big cities and industrialized areas.

However, somebody might bomb one mountain here or there.

8)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Kvazimoda on January 07, 2017, 01:36:29 PM

I do not like when people calculate something is not the end. If you now calculate 98% of what happens and what to do. Where you have a guarantee that will not work, the situation which is part of the 2%? And what will you do in this case?

Im not sure what you wanted to say, but if i understand right you are asking what would i do if 2% happened. Well that is why i said its debatable, too many factors to take in considerating. We could talk like this for 3 days and still wouldnt find solution for every option.

Right. As an example, who is going to bomb mountain ranges? Generally, the population in the mountains is sparse. So, why waste bombs on the mountains. Save the bombs for the big cities and industrialized areas.

However, somebody might bomb one mountain here or there.

8)
If you use the classic bomb then of course. There is the most important thing to relive the moment of attack. In the case of nuclear weapons, more people die from the effects of the blast than from the blast itself. Mountains will not protect.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: v1ryspro on January 07, 2017, 03:13:16 PM

I do not like when people calculate something is not the end. If you now calculate 98% of what happens and what to do. Where you have a guarantee that will not work, the situation which is part of the 2%? And what will you do in this case?

Im not sure what you wanted to say, but if i understand right you are asking what would i do if 2% happened. Well that is why i said its debatable, too many factors to take in considerating. We could talk like this for 3 days and still wouldnt find solution for every option.

Right. As an example, who is going to bomb mountain ranges? Generally, the population in the mountains is sparse. So, why waste bombs on the mountains. Save the bombs for the big cities and industrialized areas.

However, somebody might bomb one mountain here or there.

8)
If you use the classic bomb then of course. There is the most important thing to relive the moment of attack. In the case of nuclear weapons, more people die from the effects of the blast than from the blast itself. Mountains will not protect.

I must agree with our friend here, most people die from effects of the blast. So beeing on mountain is not best idea, but beeing in bunker in mountain, well that is something to think abouth.  ;D
How to grow food, where to get clean water, energy,medicines and doctors. You can transfer indefinitely. People have lost the survival skills in extreme conditions. It's like a tamed wild beast cannot be released into nature because he was not able to live.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: yuiyuga on January 07, 2017, 03:49:42 PM

I do not like when people calculate something is not the end. If you now calculate 98% of what happens and what to do. Where you have a guarantee that will not work, the situation which is part of the 2%? And what will you do in this case?

Im not sure what you wanted to say, but if i understand right you are asking what would i do if 2% happened. Well that is why i said its debatable, too many factors to take in considerating. We could talk like this for 3 days and still wouldnt find solution for every option.

Right. As an example, who is going to bomb mountain ranges? Generally, the population in the mountains is sparse. So, why waste bombs on the mountains. Save the bombs for the big cities and industrialized areas.

However, somebody might bomb one mountain here or there.
In a previous post about this it and went. If to tame the wild beast that he will never be able to live in nature. And people. He will not survive without civilization. People can only adapt if change happens slowly.

8)
If you use the classic bomb then of course. There is the most important thing to relive the moment of attack. In the case of nuclear weapons, more people die from the effects of the blast than from the blast itself. Mountains will not protect.

I must agree with our friend here, most people die from effects of the blast. So beeing on mountain is not best idea, but beeing in bunker in mountain, well that is something to think abouth.  ;D
How to grow food, where to get clean water, energy,medicines and doctors. You can transfer indefinitely. People have lost the survival skills in extreme conditions. It's like a tamed wild beast cannot be released into nature because he was not able to live.

Yes but people are adaptive. If that happens, there are still basic knowlage how to do things. And people are quick to learn when it comes to extreem, or they die. Even wild beast can be tamed.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: johnny11011 on January 08, 2017, 05:22:20 AM
Nuclear war broke out, I think the earth is not safe, Mars should be the safest. Of course, you're going to immigrate to mars.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: GMPoison on January 08, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
In a bunker underground for a little while of course  ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Perle on January 08, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
In a bunker underground for a little while of course  ;D
I would like to know what you're going to the bunker to eat? It seems to me that in the event of a nuclear war will be two exits. The first is to die immediately and without pain, and the second is a long time to suffer and die from hunger and disease.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: GMPoison on January 08, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
In a bunker underground for a little while of course  ;D
I would like to know what you're going to the bunker to eat? It seems to me that in the event of a nuclear war will be two exits. The first is to die immediately and without pain, and the second is a long time to suffer and die from hunger and disease.

Lots and lots of freeze dried and canned foods, medicine, and medical equipment. Who knows what would happen afterward if you were to survive!


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: iTradeChips on January 08, 2017, 09:59:07 AM
In a bunker underground for a little while of course  ;D
I would like to know what you're going to the bunker to eat? It seems to me that in the event of a nuclear war will be two exits. The first is to die immediately and without pain, and the second is a long time to suffer and die from hunger and disease.

this reminds me of the 90s movie "Blast From The Past" starring Brendan Frasier. i wont spoil it to those who havent watched it yet


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 08, 2017, 01:10:31 PM
In a bunker underground for a little while of course  ;D
I would like to know what you're going to the bunker to eat? It seems to me that in the event of a nuclear war will be two exits. The first is to die immediately and without pain, and the second is a long time to suffer and die from hunger and disease.

You need to produce food for your own consumption. In the bunker, you need to store seeds of various grains, vegetables and fruits. And more importantly, you might require millions of gallons of water (which is even more important than food). And also, you need to have artificial lighting. Else, the crops will not grow inside the bunker.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: SparkIt on January 08, 2017, 01:16:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


I don't think there would be a safe place if ever a nuclear war breaks out because if that happens it will cause a nuclear winter that will block the sunlight from entering the atmosphere for years thus all the plants on earth will die and soon the domino effect will take place from animals going extinct because of lack of food and then all humanity will fall as well.
Norway is actually storing thousands of plant seeds etc in Svalbard for that reason.
Though it will take a long time before those seeds will grow.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: RealBitcoin on January 08, 2017, 02:05:47 PM
Depends what kind of nuclear war and how many nukes involved.

The safest place is as far away from military base as possible since those will be attacked first, and as far away from large cities as well with > 1million population.

Also you might not want to be in the capital, nor in an economically or politically important city.



You probably want to be near mountains, especially those that have cave systems, or on a remote island on the ocean.



Any other place is toast, and probably 90% of the population will perish in such scenario.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 08, 2017, 02:06:26 PM
Norway is actually storing thousands of plant seeds etc in Svalbard for that reason.
Though it will take a long time before those seeds will grow.

Most of the grains can be harvested after 90 to 120 days. Some of the vegetables take even less time to mature. So until then, the bunker inhabitants will have to survive on frozen and canned food.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: criptix on January 08, 2017, 03:16:14 PM
Norway is actually storing thousands of plant seeds etc in Svalbard for that reason.
Though it will take a long time before those seeds will grow.

Most of the grains can be harvested after 90 to 120 days. Some of the vegetables take even less time to mature. So until then, the bunker inhabitants will have to survive on frozen and canned food.

Greenhouse + nuclear fission/fusion


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Balthazar on January 08, 2017, 04:28:58 PM
Nuclear war broke out, I think the earth is not safe, Mars should be the safest. Of course, you're going to immigrate to mars.
Mars is a nice place if you're trying to die. Radiation background on mars is much higher than that would be on the earth after nuclear war.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: criptix on January 08, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
Nuclear war broke out, I think the earth is not safe, Mars should be the safest. Of course, you're going to immigrate to mars.
Mars is a nice place if you're trying to die. Radiation background on mars is much higher that that would be on the earth after nuclear war.

I wouldnt be so sure of that. As far as i know there still exist around 16.000 nukes as of today.
That would be probably enough to terraform mars if we just explode them their.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Karloff on January 08, 2017, 08:39:45 PM
Mars is a nice place if you're trying to die.
lmao
Actually, I think that the issue is not very relevant, because nuclear war is not so easy to start. What is the point to start it? Each state leader has money, children and grandchildren. Who would want to lose.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: GMPoison on January 08, 2017, 08:49:10 PM
Mars is a nice place if you're trying to die.
lmao
Actually, I think that the issue is not very relevant, because nuclear war is not so easy to start. What is the point to start it? Each state leader has money, children and grandchildren. Who would want to lose.

Who knows. It's a very curious question to ask though.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tvbcof on January 08, 2017, 09:03:21 PM

The 'fallout' (litterally and figuratively) from most realistic types of nuclear conflict would, in my estimation, be somewhere between Balthazar's 'no big deal' and the old standard fearmongering 'end of life on the planet'.  Much closer to Balthazar's.  Lots and lots of these people remain among the living:

http://designobserver.com/images/features/heller_cobb4.jpg

My suggestion: try to be in an environment you can deal with in a post-war world.  Much of that is going to be sociological, so for most people that would mean 'shelter in place' and be mentally prepared to come out fighting.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: GMPoison on January 08, 2017, 09:17:12 PM

The 'fallout' (litterally and figuratively) from most realistic types of nuclear conflict would, in my estimation, be somewhere between Balthazar's 'no big deal' and the old standard fearmongering 'end of life on the planet'.  Much closer to Balthazar's.  Lots and lots of these people remain among the living:

http://designobserver.com/images/features/heller_cobb4.jpg

My suggestion: try to be in an environment you can deal with in a post-war world.  Much of that is going to be sociological, so for most people that would mean 'shelter in place' and be mentally prepared to come out fighting.

Part of that environment I would say would be to be prepared too. Not only for something as extreme as a nuclear war, but have an emergency kit in case anything broke out. Food, water, medicine, medical supplies, tools, weapons, and of course a wallet of bitcoin.  ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Klima on January 08, 2017, 09:42:41 PM

The 'fallout' (litterally and figuratively) from most realistic types of nuclear conflict would, in my estimation, be somewhere between Balthazar's 'no big deal' and the old standard fearmongering 'end of life on the planet'.  Much closer to Balthazar's.  Lots and lots of these people remain among the living:

http://designobserver.com/images/features/heller_cobb4.jpg

My suggestion: try to be in an environment you can deal with in a post-war world.  Much of that is going to be sociological, so for most people that would mean 'shelter in place' and be mentally prepared to come out fighting.

Part of that environment I would say would be to be prepared too. Not only for something as extreme as a nuclear war, but have an emergency kit in case anything broke out. Food, water, medicine, medical supplies, tools, weapons, and of course a wallet of bitcoin.  ;D

I want to disappoint you. After a nuclear war, would the electromagnetic storm that will bring down the electricity. This means that the Internet will not work and all your bitcoins will turn into radioactive ash.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tvbcof on January 08, 2017, 09:51:54 PM

I want to disappoint you. After a nuclear war, would the electromagnetic storm that will bring down the electricity. This means that the Internet will not work and all your bitcoins will turn into radioactive ash.

Nope.  Because the Hearndresen bloat-to-big-corp-only attack failed and there are more than '5 copies' of the blockchain world-wide, Bitcoin will eventually be revived.  Anyone who keeps their secret keys secret and not let them be destroyed will eventually be able to re-capture value.  Possibly at vastly inflated rates.  But yes, it won't happen for a number of years and a Bitcoiner will have to have more primitive options (and a lot of luck) to keep them alive long enough to realize the stored value.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 09, 2017, 06:03:48 AM
After a nuclear war, would the electromagnetic storm that will bring down the electricity. This means that the Internet will not work and all your bitcoins will turn into radioactive ash.

Storage of Bitcoins in paper wallets and USB sticks require no internet or electricity. Also, the electricity supply can be restored in a matter of hours, using solar panels and diesel-powered electric generators. The restoration of internet may take a few weeks.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: shualingfa on January 09, 2017, 06:16:48 AM
The future of nuclear war, the earth's ozone layer disappeared, the Earth Sky cloudless drought, no rain, the most precious resources for the survival of all water, water may be the most safe


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 09, 2017, 08:48:27 AM
The future of nuclear war, the earth's ozone layer disappeared, the Earth Sky cloudless drought, no rain, the most precious resources for the survival of all water, water may be the most safe

Given this, I guess it's true that somewhere there are plenty of water would be the most ideal to go to right after a Nuclear War. Just think about it as a society restart, a rebirth. And just like any other civilizations that started from the earliest of times - they did opt to start somewhere where there is plenty of potable water.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: criptix on January 09, 2017, 02:30:44 PM
After a nuclear war, would the electromagnetic storm that will bring down the electricity. This means that the Internet will not work and all your bitcoins will turn into radioactive ash.

Storage of Bitcoins in paper wallets and USB sticks require no internet or electricity. Also, the electricity supply can be restored in a matter of hours, using solar panels and diesel-powered electric generators. The restoration of internet may take a few weeks.

Nuclear winter.
Though in russia the sun will always shine  ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: kryptqnick on January 09, 2017, 07:03:29 PM
I certainly wouldn't like to go and try my luck surviving in Antarctica. It's far away, very cold and without much of civilization. I don't want to live without access to electricity at least. And surely it is better if the Internet is still on :)
Kiribati sounds fine. Island, warm and sunny, parlamentary republic and ex-colony of the UK. I think this is the best solution. Or just to stay where you are and try to survive somehow.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ridery99 on January 10, 2017, 08:32:42 AM
Nuclear war broke out, I think the earth is not safe, Mars should be the safest. Of course, you're going to immigrate to mars.

Why did you chose mars ? Why not moon or maybe even Venus ? Jupiter could be nice in this time of year. Mars is booring, too much sand for my taste xD .

Jupiter emits lots of fatal radiation. It's orbit and moons are not habitable, even inside a heavily protected space station or a ship. Venus is too close to the Sun having a similar kind of radiation issue. But these kind of "escaping the Earth" scenarios are pure nonsense anyway. Even the ISS would become an orbiting grave to the astronauts when all the supply infrastructure on Earth would be destroyed and remaining governments using remaining resources trying to maintain order and find food supplies for their elites.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 10, 2017, 08:40:35 AM
Kiribati sounds fine. Island, warm and sunny, parlamentary republic and ex-colony of the UK. I think this is the best solution. Or just to stay where you are and try to survive somehow.

I am afraid that Kiribati is not a very wise choice. It is a group of low lying coral islands, already threatened by the rising sea levels. Nuclear strikes will cause the polar ice caps to melt, and these islands will be submerged under many meters of seawater.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: kodes88 on January 10, 2017, 09:39:51 AM
The future of nuclear war, the earth's ozone layer disappeared, the Earth Sky cloudless drought, no rain, the most precious resources for the survival of all water, water may be the most safe

And ways in which humans can live under water? Do humans have to make a house under water as it made Sandy on Spongebob? if nuclear war occurred in the future, there will be no longer a safe haven for human occupied. In other words, it is a small apocalypse. That is why nuclear is prohibited. Too dangerous, both for the shooter, or the shot.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 10, 2017, 11:31:01 AM
The future of nuclear war, the earth's ozone layer disappeared, the Earth Sky cloudless drought, no rain, the most precious resources for the survival of all water, water may be the most safe

And ways in which humans can live under water? Do humans have to make a house under water as it made Sandy on Spongebob? if nuclear war occurred in the future, there will be no longer a safe haven for human occupied. In other words, it is a small apocalypse. That is why nuclear is prohibited. Too dangerous, both for the shooter, or the shot.

But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: dippididodaday on January 11, 2017, 06:59:23 AM


Safest place apart from the sky above or the ground below would be a refrigerator. Indiana Jones had to think quick but he got it right and his life was saved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arib8uWMWsM




Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 11, 2017, 09:48:04 AM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: gabmen on January 11, 2017, 10:54:59 AM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.

Well i don't think those bunkers would even be safe from the blast itself though. And we're talking about nuclear war here, not just one or two detonations. Also it's effects on the environment would pretty much have the same consequences as radiation if nit worse.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitbunnni on January 11, 2017, 11:01:02 AM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
And how long do you consider long? Just try to prepare food not for several years. The food should have long shelf life. How much do you need water? Even just without the sun people long to be able to live. To survive in the bunker will not work.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: rifiuti on January 11, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
It truly depends how many and what kind of bomb will be dropped.

http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_13/1479251/estimated_global_nuclear_warhead_arsenals_2016_chartbuilder_e13f2ffcaf77dea54db8adc4ca64fca2.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.png

Second, the biggest nuclear bomb is "USSR Tsar Bomba" and radius is 100Mt;

https://i.imgur.com/f3kP1RT.jpg

If I had chance to learn where they will drop the bomb, I would go to one of the Fallout shelter's in Switzerland.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: jovs on January 11, 2017, 01:46:15 PM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
Actually, there is no safest place to survive from nuclear radiation but underground. Underground can provide small number of individuals, yet you'll be free from nuclear radiation.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: grenade launcher on January 11, 2017, 02:17:04 PM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
Actually, there is no safest place to survive from nuclear radiation but underground. Underground can provide small number of individuals, yet you'll be free from nuclear radiation.

There are some speculations that there are some compounds underground , maybe whole city. But when you think about it , its not imposible to build whole city underground. It only requiers a lot of money to invest, but its possible :D .
In Russia there is such city of Odessa. In this city under the ground, the tunnels were dug. These tunnels are so long that they can go with almost any home in the city. I think it is possible to escape the explosion, but to survive it will be impossible even there.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: GooCust04 on January 11, 2017, 02:28:38 PM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
Actually, there is no safest place to survive from nuclear radiation but underground. Underground can provide small number of individuals, yet you'll be free from nuclear radiation.

There are some speculations that there are some compounds underground , maybe whole city. But when you think about it , its not imposible to build whole city underground. It only requiers a lot of money to invest, but its possible :D .
In Russia there is such city of Odessa. In this city under the ground, the tunnels were dug. These tunnels are so long that they can go with almost any home in the city. I think it is possible to escape the explosion, but to survive it will be impossible even there.

Well if its dug enough underground with good made concrete structure it could withstand nuclear blast and radiation of it. Ofcourse there should be enough food and drinkable water for humans to survive . As i said it is expencive but it is possible . Didnt know abouth town in Russia sound realy grate , would like to see something like that one day :D .
There is not a concrete tunnels. These tunnels are dug into the limestone and clay. From radiation they will not save, but from the effects of the explosion itself will save for sure. Moreover, the entrance to the tunnels is in the house and you do not even need to leave your home to the street.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: xenia4774 on January 12, 2017, 12:56:01 AM
I like the Easter island idea


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: notbatman on January 12, 2017, 01:32:44 AM
I like the Easter island idea

Easter Island has cellular service, try again.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: protokol on January 12, 2017, 05:15:03 AM
Wales.

I mean yeah, we're close to London and shit, but most of our caves point to out to the Irish Sea, so if we're prepared then the only nukes we need to worry about are those from the USA, we'll be sheltered initially from any blast from the mandem Russkies, India, Pakistan, China... and MAYBE Israel (yes definitely Israel), and MAYBE North Korea (almost certainly not NK).

France I guess just wouldn't hit us with em, seems like shooting themselves in the foot, but still our caves will protect us from Le Grande Bombe...

Oh, wait... My plan has hit a sudden problem - all our Welsh caves are directly facing the USA! And Trump will have the nuclear codes in a few weeks! Fuck.

Lets just hope Ireland bears the brunt of the nuclear attack  ;D 

Just joking Irish crew, I love you guys and we Celts need to stick together! Feel free to join our bunker-caves anytime you want if Trump goes on a mad one - just blaze it across the Irish Sea and bring whisky and irish instruments like tin whistles, bodhran, fiddles and the like - we'll have a post apocalyptic jam sesh!!

I have a secret fantasy of this sort of thing happening, like mad max style horrific apocalypse, but people coming together in the most pure unadulterated way possible, not just for sharing resources but for companionship as well...

Aaah naive dreams they may seem, but you never know...  :)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 12, 2017, 07:04:28 AM
In Russia there is such city of Odessa. In this city under the ground, the tunnels were dug. These tunnels are so long that they can go with almost any home in the city. I think it is possible to escape the explosion, but to survive it will be impossible even there.

Odessa is located in Ukraine, and not in Russia. But during the cold war years, there were a lot of classified projects undertaken in the Budjak region (where Odessa is located).


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: protokol on January 12, 2017, 09:44:03 AM
Wales.

I mean yeah, we're close to London and shit, but most of our caves point to out to the Irish Sea, so if we're prepared then the only nukes we need to worry about are those from the USA, we'll be sheltered initially from any blast from the mandem Russkies, India, Pakistan, China... and MAYBE Israel (yes definitely Israel), and MAYBE North Korea (almost certainly not NK).

France I guess just wouldn't hit us with em, seems like shooting themselves in the foot, but still our caves will protect us from Le Grande Bombe...

Oh, wait... My plan has hit a sudden problem - all our Welsh caves are directly facing the USA! And Trump will have the nuclear codes in a few weeks! Fuck.

Lets just hope Ireland bears the brunt of the nuclear attack  ;D 

Just joking Irish crew, I love you guys and we Celts need to stick together! Feel free to join our bunker-caves anytime you want if Trump goes on a mad one - just blaze it across the Irish Sea and bring whisky and irish instruments like tin whistles, bodhran, fiddles and the like - we'll have a post apocalyptic jam sesh!!

I have a secret fantasy of this sort of thing happening, like mad max style horrific apocalypse, but people coming together in the most pure unadulterated way possible, not just for sharing resources but for companionship as well...

Aaah naive dreams they may seem, but you never know...  :)

Hahahaha nice thinking dude, that for sure would make you live true some hard nuclear time. You would have some grate fun with music and good booz, but there is a bit bigger problem than usa side, and that is hunger 😀 .

We have loads of fish that are easily catchable - every so often there are huge shoals of mackerel that come close to shore, and you can set up a rod and line with a bunch of spinning lures attached, and catch literally 10-30 mackerel in 1 hour. I've also caught a big bass spearfishing once with a mask/snorkel, and have dived down and collected huge spider crabs - 3-4 feet wide leg to leg (the body is smaller and inedible, but the legs are full of delicious tender meat, similar to the meat inside a large crab claw).

All of this seafood is easily cookable on a homemade barbecue or bonfire, and the fish can be very tasty raw, sashimi style, (but also works great on a barbecue). You can even take a walk 1/2 a mile inland and pick some wild garlic and other herbs to enhance your meal!

Food would be the least of our worries, looters and freeloaders would be more of a problem... We would need to get our defences and barricades sorted, and get some big security dudes to protect our cave.

It's hard to find proper guns here in the UK, so we would be using air rifles, farmers double barrelled shotguns and "black widow" slingshots to protect our cave commune!! (and also to hunt birds and squirrels to add to our fishing catch).



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 12, 2017, 09:53:24 AM
In case of nuclear war, the oceans around the world will be heavily contaminated with radiation. This would mean that eating significant amount of seafood might cause radiation sickness, and eventually death.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 12, 2017, 11:31:49 AM
In case of nuclear war, the oceans around the world will be heavily contaminated with radiation. This would mean that eating significant amount of seafood might cause radiation sickness, and eventually death.

And all freshwater reserves as well. If this is the case where would people go to get water.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Actualiteit on January 12, 2017, 12:39:17 PM
That's why we don't put all our apples in one basket. Lose the basket, lose all apples. Put your apples in multiple different baskets and you can afford to lose a basket or two. It's a subtle hint at space colonization I guess.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ridery99 on January 12, 2017, 05:01:50 PM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
Actually, there is no safest place to survive from nuclear radiation but underground. Underground can provide small number of individuals, yet you'll be free from nuclear radiation.

There are some speculations that there are some compounds underground , maybe whole city. But when you think about it , its not imposible to build whole city underground. It only requiers a lot of money to invest, but its possible :D .
In Russia there is such city of Odessa. In this city under the ground, the tunnels were dug. These tunnels are so long that they can go with almost any home in the city. I think it is possible to escape the explosion, but to survive it will be impossible even there.

There are many underground bases in Russia, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau)

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Mount Yamantau (Bashkir: Ямaнтay, Russian: гopa Ямaнтay) is in the Ural Mountains, Bashkortostan, Russia. The name means wicked mountain in the Bashkir language (Ямaн тay). It is also known as Mount Yamantau. It stands at 1,640 metres (5,381 ft) and is the highest mountain in the southern Urals. Along with Kosvinsky Mountain (600 km to the north), it is suspected by the United States of being a large secret nuclear facility and/or bunker as well as being used for communication purposes.[1] The closed military town of Mezhgorye (Russian: Meжгopьe) is situated nearby. As late as 2003, Yamantaw was not yet fully operational.[1]

Large excavation projects have been observed by U.S. satellite imagery as recently as the late 1990s, during the time of Boris Yeltsin's government after the fall of the Soviet Union.[1] Two garrisons, Beloretsk-15 and Beloretsk-16, were built on top of the facility, and possibly a third, Alkino-2, as well, and became the closed town of Mezhgorye in 1995. They are said to house 30,000 workers each. Repeated U.S. questions have yielded several different responses from the Russian government regarding Mount Yamantaw.[2] They have said it is a mining site, a repository for Russian treasures, a food storage area, and a bunker for leaders in case of nuclear war.[3] Responding to questions regarding Yamantaw in 1996, Russia's Defense Ministry stated: "The practice does not exist in the Defense Ministry of Russia of informing foreign mass media about facilities, whatever they are, that are under construction in the interests of strengthening the security of Russia."[3] Large rail lines serve the facility.[3]


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 13, 2017, 05:33:40 AM
Wow that is amazing :D . I never thought abouth things like this , but its nice to see that there is places like that . I thought that undercitys can be only found in movies and in WOW XD . But now i see i was wrong , that would be definatly nice place to be on nuclear war day :P .

Anyway Russia is a very large country, and the surface area is almost twice as that of the United States. This is a major advantage for Russia, in a potential nuclear war against the United States.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 13, 2017, 09:02:43 AM
If the nuclear war broke up, i think there will be no safe place anymore in this earth, because it can damage everything, we cant say what will be the effect on us and to our nature. We cant live the same anymore if it will broke out.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 13, 2017, 01:07:46 PM
Wow that is amazing :D . I never thought abouth things like this , but its nice to see that there is places like that . I thought that undercitys can be only found in movies and in WOW XD . But now i see i was wrong , that would be definatly nice place to be on nuclear war day :P .

Anyway Russia is a very large country, and the surface area is almost twice as that of the United States. This is a major advantage for Russia, in a potential nuclear war against the United States.

United states of america dont stand a chance in war with Russia , that is why they need help from other countrys as well . But even with help i think Russia will give be hell of a fight , and dont forget that there is other countrys that will support Russia ...

This is because US really knows how to play it well. While it really is such a shame, but US' influence against other countries and its allies are really persistent that it can use them for its own benefit.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Terpercaya on January 13, 2017, 01:20:09 PM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
Actually, there is no safest place to survive from nuclear radiation but underground. Underground can provide small number of individuals, yet you'll be free from nuclear radiation.

There are some speculations that there are some compounds underground , maybe whole city. But when you think about it , its not imposible to build whole city underground. It only requiers a lot of money to invest, but its possible :D .
In Russia there is such city of Odessa. In this city under the ground, the tunnels were dug. These tunnels are so long that they can go with almost any home in the city. I think it is possible to escape the explosion, but to survive it will be impossible even there.

There are many underground bases in Russia, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau)


Wow that is amazing :D . I never thought abouth things like this , but its nice to see that there is places like that . I thought that undercitys can be only found in movies and in WOW XD . But now i see i was wrong , that would be definatly nice place to be on nuclear war day :P .

but, is it open for anyone. i have some negative minds about the goverment.
 and although those bunkers are big enough .. do you think it will be able to save all over peoples arround 'em, and not having over fullness issue?. if that will be happened, those bunker holders starts to make some exception for some peoples in order to avoid that issue. how 'bout it?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 13, 2017, 01:50:25 PM
But just try to think of it as what have happened in Japan, only this time, a lot of places had been hit. What should we do then.. Where really is should be the best way to go. What do you think of the 'underground setup'?

I am not sure whether underground bunkers will be immune from radiation. But even if they are safe, I am afraid that only a very small number of individuals could be housed in such facilities for long-term.
Actually, there is no safest place to survive from nuclear radiation but underground. Underground can provide small number of individuals, yet you'll be free from nuclear radiation.

There are some speculations that there are some compounds underground , maybe whole city. But when you think about it , its not imposible to build whole city underground. It only requiers a lot of money to invest, but its possible :D .
In Russia there is such city of Odessa. In this city under the ground, the tunnels were dug. These tunnels are so long that they can go with almost any home in the city. I think it is possible to escape the explosion, but to survive it will be impossible even there.

There are many underground bases in Russia, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau)


Wow that is amazing :D . I never thought abouth things like this , but its nice to see that there is places like that . I thought that undercitys can be only found in movies and in WOW XD . But now i see i was wrong , that would be definatly nice place to be on nuclear war day :P .

but, is it open for anyone. i have some negative minds about the goverment.
 and although those bunkers are big enough .. do you think it will be able to save all over peoples arround 'em, and not having over fullness issue?. if that will be happened, those bunker holders starts to make some exception for some peoples in order to avoid that issue. how 'bout it?

One worry is that now that it has been publicly shared in the media. The counterforces would then target this and therefore not make this that safe anymore. But really, these are the plans that I believe should work. Underground bases and such.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 14, 2017, 02:00:28 PM
If the nuclear war broke up, i think there will be no safe place anymore in this earth, because it can damage everything, we cant say what will be the effect on us and to our nature. We cant live the same anymore if it will broke out.

It will damage everything. The challenge would be to find the place which is the least contaminated by radiation. It can be Antarctica, or it can be some underground facility deep in the Siberia or Alaska.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: criptix on January 14, 2017, 02:04:04 PM
Russia has barely enough money to feed their citiziens.

I would for sure not trust any underground facilities in siberia LoL

Gulag 2.0


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: gabmen on January 14, 2017, 03:04:13 PM
If the nuclear war broke up, i think there will be no safe place anymore in this earth, because it can damage everything, we cant say what will be the effect on us and to our nature. We cant live the same anymore if it will broke out.

It will damage everything. The challenge would be to find the place which is the least contaminated by radiation. It can be Antarctica, or it can be some underground facility deep in the Siberia or Alaska.

Well the thing is that with nuclear war, we wouldn't know for sure how large the coverage of the damage would be. If a single nuke can level an entire city, imagine what several nukes aimed at different parts of the world could do. Even the extreme poles i think won't be safe enough for us. And an underground facility would be only as good as the supplies it has for a limited number of people. Radiation would still be very potent when the time comes that the people would need to come up their bunkers wherever that is.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: whaSasd on January 15, 2017, 04:24:48 AM
The north or south pole would probably be the safest regions. Or as far away from civilization as possible.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 15, 2017, 05:57:37 AM
Well the thing is that with nuclear war, we wouldn't know for sure how large the coverage of the damage would be. If a single nuke can level an entire city, imagine what several nukes aimed at different parts of the world could do. Even the extreme poles i think won't be safe enough for us. And an underground facility would be only as good as the supplies it has for a limited number of people. Radiation would still be very potent when the time comes that the people would need to come up their bunkers wherever that is.

The contamination will be distributed unevenly. During the Chernobyl disaster, certain areas in Sweden and Finland were more affected than Russia and Ukraine, as the winds carried the contamination to these regions.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: philggg on January 15, 2017, 09:30:57 AM
On  e earth nobody is safe but if you have chance to travel to space i believe it is safer


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: The_prodigy on January 15, 2017, 10:36:16 AM
Nuclear war is around the corner the safest i know where to hide is underground nor in dessert place where there no other thing on that BUT I KNOW WHEN YOU ARE LIVING ON EARTH Nobody place is now safe. If nuclear war happened


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BADecker on January 15, 2017, 08:38:32 PM
Death is only an option if you are alive.    8)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 16, 2017, 05:08:41 AM
On  e earth nobody is safe but if you have chance to travel to space i believe it is safer

Space travel is extremely expensive. Even the International Space Station can't accommodate more than six people. Remember that it was constructed at a cost of around $150 billion. And it needs constant supplies of food and oxygen. 


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: pearlmen on January 16, 2017, 06:52:17 AM
Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge there is no where to hide because even if one is outside the blast area, the effect after that is even more catastrophic. I guess the only thing one can wish for is that it does not happen. Let the world powers continue to have issues and continue to settle it.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 16, 2017, 09:37:16 AM
Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge there is no where to hide because even if one is outside the blast area, the effect after that is even more catastrophic. I guess the only thing one can wish for is that it does not happen. Let the world powers continue to have issues and continue to settle it.

It could be massive, if nuclear power, equipment, and weapons could destroy not only one country, but the world could be. The effect of it could be a blast, and can destroy all of the things living around. If nuclear is launched, we cannot say whether where will be the safest place on earth


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: kodes88 on January 16, 2017, 10:03:39 AM
Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge there is no where to hide because even if one is outside the blast area, the effect after that is even more catastrophic. I guess the only thing one can wish for is that it does not happen. Let the world powers continue to have issues and continue to settle it.

Yes, if nuclear war broke out, then no where to hide in this world. The effect of nuclear is too big to be use for a war. Not only could kill an enemy, but also can kill yourself in one shot. Even if you live underground, that is not safe. To be alive for a long time in a nuclear war age, you just use a mask and it will reduce the effect for a little time. But in the end, to be alive in that situation is too hard.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 16, 2017, 02:34:02 PM
Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge there is no where to hide because even if one is outside the blast area, the effect after that is even more catastrophic. I guess the only thing one can wish for is that it does not happen. Let the world powers continue to have issues and continue to settle it.

Yes, if nuclear war broke out, then no where to hide in this world. The effect of nuclear is too big to be use for a war. Not only could kill an enemy, but also can kill yourself in one shot. Even if you live underground, that is not safe. To be alive for a long time in a nuclear war age, you just use a mask and it will reduce the effect for a little time. But in the end, to be alive in that situation is too hard.

So I guess then more appropriate follow-up questions would be. How to prepare for a Nuclear War. Or How to stay alive after a Nuclear War has broken.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: uige2016 on January 16, 2017, 05:33:07 PM
No place is safe in a war


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: pion3d on January 16, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
No place is safe in a war
Totally agree

So relax in a chair by the window and burn out quickly! ;)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: CroIsBest on January 16, 2017, 05:50:07 PM
If nuclelear war start to happent and world war 3 then you can try to go only to other planet I prefer mars  but I dont think that even nuclear war wil start in m and your life so dont worry they are not so crazy.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: coolcoinz on January 16, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
If the nuclear war broke up, i think there will be no safe place anymore in this earth, because it can damage everything, we cant say what will be the effect on us and to our nature. We cant live the same anymore if it will broke out.

It will damage everything. The challenge would be to find the place which is the least contaminated by radiation. It can be Antarctica, or it can be some underground facility deep in the Siberia or Alaska.

Well the thing is that with nuclear war, we wouldn't know for sure how large the coverage of the damage would be. If a single nuke can level an entire city, imagine what several nukes aimed at different parts of the world could do. Even the extreme poles i think won't be safe enough for us. And an underground facility would be only as good as the supplies it has for a limited number of people. Radiation would still be very potent when the time comes that the people would need to come up their bunkers wherever that is.
It would depend on the number of nukes launched. We know that many countries have a way to destroy warheads before their reach the targets, for instance the Patriot System, that has been operating for over 20 years. Out of 100 launched nukes more than half would have been shot down. Some would probably malfunction, some would hit industrial areas, the suburbs would probably remain untouched.
On the other hand a lot of detonations would probably disrupt Earth's orbit.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Balthazar on January 16, 2017, 07:12:01 PM
Patriot is a scam, not a real defense system. There were real-life tests of Patriot against the ancient OTR-21 "Tochka" ballistic missiles. Patriot was able to intercept only 25% of warheads. Funny, but 'Tochka' missiles are obsolete and scheduled for decommission, modern missiles are far more difficult to intercept.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: olushakes on January 16, 2017, 07:29:08 PM
As harsh it must sound but with the level of advancement that have been witnessed in building nuclear weapons even after Huroshima then I can say boldly there is no where to hide and no where is even safe as I see it, the only thing we can hope for is that it does not happen because with the pressing of a button a country might not recover for centuries to come.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: coolcoinz on January 16, 2017, 08:54:49 PM
Patriot is a scam, not a real defense system. There were real-life tests of Patriot against the ancient OTR-21 "Tochka" ballistic missiles. Patriot was able to intercept only 25% of warheads. Funny, but 'Tochka' missiles are obsolete and scheduled for decommission, modern missiles are far more difficult to intercept.
Patriots are also obsolete and scheduled for decommission.

"The Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS) program aimed to replace Patriot missiles in the United States, the older Hawk system in Germany, and Italy’s even older Nike Hercules missiles. MEADS will be designed to kill enemy aircraft, cruise missiles and UAVs within its reach, while providing next-generation point defense capabilities against ballistic missiles."


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 11:31:31 AM
Patriot is a scam, not a real defense system. There were real-life tests of Patriot against the ancient OTR-21 "Tochka" ballistic missiles. Patriot was able to intercept only 25% of warheads. Funny, but 'Tochka' missiles are obsolete and scheduled for decommission, modern missiles are far more difficult to intercept.
Patriots are also obsolete and scheduled for decommission.

"The Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS) program aimed to replace Patriot missiles in the United States, the older Hawk system in Germany, and Italy’s even older Nike Hercules missiles. MEADS will be designed to kill enemy aircraft, cruise missiles and UAVs within its reach, while providing next-generation point defense capabilities against ballistic missiles."

The Medium Extended Air Defense System is just another scam, similar to the $2 trillion F-35 scandal. In the end-product of this program will be some inferior equipment, which is unable to compete against similar kind of equipment from other nations.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 17, 2017, 02:01:58 PM
Safest on earth? I think there is no other safest places on earth. If nuclear missiles, weapons and equipments will launched, we cannot say where will be the safest places on earth. We cannot do anything, we should know and also our government should know what will be the effect of nuclear power


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: criptix on January 17, 2017, 02:23:25 PM
Patriot is a scam, not a real defense system. There were real-life tests of Patriot against the ancient OTR-21 "Tochka" ballistic missiles. Patriot was able to intercept only 25% of warheads. Funny, but 'Tochka' missiles are obsolete and scheduled for decommission, modern missiles are far more difficult to intercept.
Patriots are also obsolete and scheduled for decommission.

"The Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS) program aimed to replace Patriot missiles in the United States, the older Hawk system in Germany, and Italy’s even older Nike Hercules missiles. MEADS will be designed to kill enemy aircraft, cruise missiles and UAVs within its reach, while providing next-generation point defense capabilities against ballistic missiles."

The Medium Extended Air Defense System is just another scam, similar to the $2 trillion F-35 scandal. In the end-product of this program will be some inferior equipment, which is unable to compete against similar kind of equipment from other nations.

Right. That must be the reason the Sowjets won the cold war and everyone is living under communism now

Superior communist weapons... literaly broken :D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2017, 03:08:56 PM
Safest on earth? I think there is no other safest places on earth. If nuclear missiles, weapons and equipments will launched, we cannot say where will be the safest places on earth. We cannot do anything, we should know and also our government should know what will be the effect of nuclear power

Nuclear weapons have a limited range. Check this video for demo of the aftereffects from a nuclear explosion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aza-2wopCFY

If Russia successfully launches 300 nukes targeting the major metropolitan areas of USA (out of a total stockpile of 4,500), some 100 million people (30% of the American population) would die immediately. Another 10%-30% will die in the next few days and weeks. In this scenario, the safest places will be remote forested regions of Alaska and Montana.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 17, 2017, 04:40:01 PM
Safest on earth? I think there is no other safest places on earth. If nuclear missiles, weapons and equipments will launched, we cannot say where will be the safest places on earth. We cannot do anything, we should know and also our government should know what will be the effect of nuclear power

Nuclear weapons have a limited range. Check this video for demo of the aftereffects from a nuclear explosion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aza-2wopCFY

If Russia successfully launches 300 nukes targeting the major metropolitan areas of USA (out of a total stockpile of 4,500), some 100 million people (30% of the American population) would die immediately. Another 10%-30% will die in the next few days and weeks. In this scenario, the safest places will be remote forested regions of Alaska and Montana.

Yep, and shouldn't be mountainous areas like in West Virginia be just as safe?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: michaelch on January 18, 2017, 12:51:28 AM
Wherever is most dangerous. Because the most dangerous place is the safest.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 18, 2017, 01:05:16 AM
Safest on earth? I think there is no other safest places on earth. If nuclear missiles, weapons and equipments will launched, we cannot say where will be the safest places on earth. We cannot do anything, we should know and also our government should know what will be the effect of nuclear power

Nuclear weapons have a limited range. Check this video for demo of the aftereffects from a nuclear explosion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aza-2wopCFY

If Russia successfully launches 300 nukes targeting the major metropolitan areas of USA (out of a total stockpile of 4,500), some 100 million people (30% of the American population) would die immediately. Another 10%-30% will die in the next few days and weeks. In this scenario, the safest places will be remote forested regions of Alaska and Montana.

We cannot say that all nuclear weapons have a limited range. As we can see in the video, there is only a limited range, what if Russia, North Korea, China or other countries inventing nuclear weapons and equipment invent a nuclear weapon that can make whole country destroyed ? We only know that Russia invented a limited range? What if Russia invented a massive and powerful nuclear weapon ?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: xdtiagonzhar on January 18, 2017, 04:36:18 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


If that event happen, maybe earth will like hell so the only choice is to explore the universe. You know right how big the univese it, isnt its strange in this big world only human being who live? So we must start exploring the universe, colonialization other planet, and make new home !


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 18, 2017, 06:12:31 AM
We cannot say that all nuclear weapons have a limited range. As we can see in the video, there is only a limited range, what if Russia, North Korea, China or other countries inventing nuclear weapons and equipment invent a nuclear weapon that can make whole country destroyed ? We only know that Russia invented a limited range? What if Russia invented a massive and powerful nuclear weapon ?

It is a possibility. However, even the most potent nuclear weapon created till now (Tsar Bomba or RDS-220 hydrogen bomb) is having a fixed range. The “total destruction” blast radius for Tsar bomba is 35 km. The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km away from ground zero. In future, it is possible that either the Americans or the Russians invent something which is even more dangerous. 


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 18, 2017, 03:25:11 PM
We cannot say that all nuclear weapons have a limited range. As we can see in the video, there is only a limited range, what if Russia, North Korea, China or other countries inventing nuclear weapons and equipment invent a nuclear weapon that can make whole country destroyed ? We only know that Russia invented a limited range? What if Russia invented a massive and powerful nuclear weapon ?

It is a possibility. However, even the most potent nuclear weapon created till now (Tsar Bomba or RDS-220 hydrogen bomb) is having a fixed range. The “total destruction” blast radius for Tsar bomba is 35 km. The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km away from ground zero. In future, it is possible that either the Americans or the Russians invent something which is even more dangerous. 

Or perhaps they already did. Both of these countries allocate a lot of their budget on military research and facilities.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: sportis on January 18, 2017, 04:14:50 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  





Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: noel2123 on January 19, 2017, 11:03:03 AM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  





We cannot see the future will be, we all know that nuclear war is one of the impossible war on Earth, but it can be possible right now. I think some of the country having nuclear weapons, can fire a nuclear missile with a massive blast. If this happen, we do not have safest place on earth, we cannot see the after effect of nuclear power.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: margarete11 on January 19, 2017, 11:29:22 AM
Maybe the head of the states know the answer but for us ordinary people we will never know where we gonna locate ourselves when that unexpected  thing happen we might not survive during those time so let just hope that it will never happen because it will be very very unpleasant situation and trillion of innocent lives may be lost


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: rchstr on January 19, 2017, 11:37:30 AM
I think the safest place on earth when nuclear war was started is in non civilized area or in the community of few people where theres peace. We all know that technology and science makes that neclears now youre safe where science and technology is just an theory.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: beafheart on January 19, 2017, 02:02:31 PM
I think the safest place on earth when nuclear war was started is in non civilized area or in the community of few people where theres peace. We all know that technology and science makes that neclears now youre safe where science and technology is just an theory.
I do not believe that in the case of a global nuclear conflict will be possible anywhere on earth to hide from its consequences. That it was not necessary now to destroy the economies of all countries that threaten to use nuclear weapons.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: rchstr on January 19, 2017, 03:10:24 PM
Yeah, it is truly impossible. Having a nuclear war will just end up our planet and our human race. No one wants that to happen even the terrorist. Having that so called nuclear war is not going to happen or else all living things on earth will suffer. Even those animals deep under the sea will takecan effect of this event.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: btvlGainer on January 19, 2017, 03:22:18 PM
I think the main merit of nuclear weapons that it serves as a system of checks against the aggression of a large number of States. In fact, the third world war has already started and she turned into a real massacre because of nuclear weapons.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 19, 2017, 05:12:30 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Mersedes on January 19, 2017, 08:39:34 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: jackshephard on January 19, 2017, 08:56:47 PM
I'm thinking about the moon, good weather, no nukes and no humans -for now-.. Mars is just too far for it to be practical :)
Seriously speaking, I guess it would be Australia, Africa and the islands in the middle of the ocean/s as far as they are not close to US or South America. Of course in Private nuclear bunkers in these locations, You might get toasted from the after-effects of radiation if you go out, The sun would be blocked by nuclear dust etc... so it might not be a very good investment (trying to stop it from happening would be better).


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 20, 2017, 01:53:16 AM
I'm thinking about the moon, good weather, no nukes and no humans -for now-.. Mars is just too far for it to be practical :)
Seriously speaking, I guess it would be Australia, Africa and the islands in the middle of the ocean/s as far as they are not close to US or South America. Of course in Private nuclear bunkers in these locations, You might get toasted from the after-effects of radiation if you go out, The sun would be blocked by nuclear dust etc... so it might not be a very good investment (trying to stop it from happening would be better).

We should know what will be effect on it, once it launch, what will be the after effects on our mother earth. We cannot know predict or we are not going to see the after effects on it, but after a 50 to 10 years, we will going to experience of the effects of nuclear power. All nuclear powers will be massive and can be a big blast on earth.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 20, 2017, 11:33:21 AM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio

Chernobyl incident was due to explosion inside the nuclear power plant. The radio-active isotopes produced were much different than those produced by a nuclear bomb attack. The Chernobyl radiation was more wide-spread, but less lethal.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: coolcoinz on January 20, 2017, 05:25:22 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio
You're wrong. The consequences were clearly visible after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Some countries like Russia also tested their bombs on soldiers.

The exercise, under the code name "Snowball", involved an aerial detonation of a 40 kt RDS-4 nuclear bomb. The stated goal of the operation was military training for breaking through heavily fortified defensive lines of a military opponent using nuclear weapons. An army of 45,000 soldiers marched through the area around the epicenter soon after the nuclear blast. The exercise was conducted on September 14, 1954, at 9:33 a.m


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Karloff on January 20, 2017, 07:02:04 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio
You're wrong. The consequences were clearly visible after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Some countries like Russia also tested their bombs on soldiers.

The exercise, under the code name "Snowball", involved an aerial detonation of a 40 kt RDS-4 nuclear bomb. The stated goal of the operation was military training for breaking through heavily fortified defensive lines of a military opponent using nuclear weapons. An army of 45,000 soldiers marched through the area around the epicenter soon after the nuclear blast. The exercise was conducted on September 14, 1954, at 9:33 a.m
And what are the consequences of the explosion was in the USSR? I heard about the awful consequences of a nuclear attack in Japan. but I have not heard about such consequences in Russia. More of a nuclear explosion in the atmosphere can suffer and other countries. Maybe it's a fake?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Perle on January 20, 2017, 07:49:31 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio
You're wrong. The consequences were clearly visible after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Some countries like Russia also tested their bombs on soldiers.

The exercise, under the code name "Snowball", involved an aerial detonation of a 40 kt RDS-4 nuclear bomb. The stated goal of the operation was military training for breaking through heavily fortified defensive lines of a military opponent using nuclear weapons. An army of 45,000 soldiers marched through the area around the epicenter soon after the nuclear blast. The exercise was conducted on September 14, 1954, at 9:33 a.m
And what are the consequences of the explosion was in the USSR? I heard about the awful consequences of a nuclear attack in Japan. but I have not heard about such consequences in Russia. More of a nuclear explosion in the atmosphere can suffer and other countries. Maybe it's a fake?

Yep i think its definatly a fake . Because who sane would test nuclear weapon freely , and even on his own soldiers ? That sound a bit ridiculous dont you think . And dont mention number of 45000 soldiers , that is insane .... even for Soviets . I realy think that is just fake , for soldiers at least . Maybe they tested bomb tho XD ...
I know that when the Russian tried to put out fire in gas wells to undermine the nuclear charge. It was in the village. Population said no. Died a lot of people, but we are not talking about thousands.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on January 21, 2017, 04:52:41 PM
And what are the consequences of the explosion was in the USSR? I heard about the awful consequences of a nuclear attack in Japan. but I have not heard about such consequences in Russia. More of a nuclear explosion in the atmosphere can suffer and other countries. Maybe it's a fake?

No one died or suffered from radiation sickness, as everyone were provided with personal protective equipment and individual radiation dosimeters. However a major nuclear accident occurred in 1957, known as the Kyshtym disaster. Some 100+ people died in this incident.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tracktorr on January 21, 2017, 05:05:44 PM
And what are the consequences of the explosion was in the USSR? I heard about the awful consequences of a nuclear attack in Japan. but I have not heard about such consequences in Russia. More of a nuclear explosion in the atmosphere can suffer and other countries. Maybe it's a fake?

No one died or suffered from radiation sickness, as everyone were provided with personal protective equipment and individual radiation dosimeters. However a major nuclear accident occurred in 1957, known as the Kyshtym disaster. Some 100+ people died in this incident.
What personal dosimeters can help with nuclear disaster? It is a means of determining radiation levels and no more. After the accident at Chernobyl killed thousands of people, and now only 100. Fake!


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: rchstr on January 21, 2017, 05:11:59 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio

you cant say that earth is safe this days. we all know that techology is tranforming things into goods one. inovating things as it can be more useful. earth is now controlled by technology and cannot be predicted by anyone. nuclear bombings is not easy to deploy as it can trigger every nation and can start world war. but maybe for now scientist havent figured out the formulas to sum up the consequences when nuclear war broke out. maybe they are starting on calculating those formulas.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tracktorr on January 21, 2017, 05:19:55 PM
Even though I believe it is difficult anybody to survive after the blast the best place to live temporary is in a nuclear shelter inside a mountain. After that, there are no many places in Earth except some small countries like as Tuvalu, Malta, Iceland but because many believe that WWIII will start in Northern hemisphere countries like Argentina and Chile as well due to located in the southern hemisphere and air clearing up relatively faster.  

I would strike off Tuvalu from the list. It is a group of small low-lying coral islands. The nuclear warfare will result in the melting of the polar ice-caps, and Tuvalu will be submerged under 50 meters of water.
Any place on earth safe. Though of course nobody knows the real consequences of the nuclear bombings. Chernobyl has shown that scientists can't reliably predict consequences. In addition, the nature quickly adapted to a radiatio

you cant say that earth is safe this days. we all know that techology is tranforming things into goods one. inovating things as it can be more useful. earth is now controlled by technology and cannot be predicted by anyone. nuclear bombings is not easy to deploy as it can trigger every nation and can start world war. but maybe for now scientist havent figured out the formulas to sum up the consequences when nuclear war broke out. maybe they are starting on calculating those formulas.
It seems to me that for this reason nobody will dare to start a nuclear war. Think of nuclear weapons only benefit. It since world war 2 is a factor limiting the war. Why study formulas? Keep it that way!


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Bee Leb07 on February 24, 2017, 04:34:00 PM
If nuclear war broke out, i think there will be no safest place on earth. Because, nuclear bombs which are used in nuclear war are very dangerous. It's impact is also very dangerous. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the most important example of nuclear war.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Eternu on February 24, 2017, 04:38:30 PM
Iceland.

https://i.imgur.com/tORXJZp.png

A great place for someone to hide
I must say that from what i saw on this picture it would not be only great place for someone to hide there, but it would be great place to live there. So beautiful... The way grass grow around house, and not to mention background and view of those mountains... To live there i think it is priceless...  :o


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Kotone on February 24, 2017, 11:44:25 PM
In desert is the best and safest place on earth that you will make your home once there are nuclear war happen on this earth maybe this will destroy all cities and neighborhood besides no one will know when this happen lol but hoping that it will not happen at all i want want our mother earth will destroy.

I don't think that even the most remote desert will be safe in case of a nuclear war. Remember the Chernobyl disaster? Children in Sweden and Norway, living many thousands of kilometers away from the reactor got cancer as a result of fallout from radioactive Cesium.
Where do you live build an under ground shelter like what moscow did? Is there safe? I realize on your statement that there's no country are now safe but if war happens lets accept the fact that people will died for nothing people will killed without mercy.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: rajasumi3 on February 25, 2017, 04:39:19 AM
I think nuclear war would never occur.even if it occurs the no people would be able to survive it as the radiation would be great.all the food,water supply would be destroyed and there will be acute crisis of the supply demands and the after that people will fight among themselves and the fittest of the fit would survive the situation.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 25, 2017, 05:19:24 AM
I must say that from what i saw on this picture it would not be only great place for someone to hide there, but it would be great place to live there. So beautiful... The way grass grow around house, and not to mention background and view of those mountains... To live there i think it is priceless...  :o

Iceland may be a bad choice. I agree that it is located far away from the mainland nations, but Iceland is completely devoid of forests. The Norwegian colonizers destroyed all the forest land during the 15th century, and ever since that Iceland has remained without woodlands.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tetrisbattle on March 02, 2017, 09:45:47 AM
no way to get safe .....


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: electronicash on March 02, 2017, 10:39:44 AM
no way to get safe .....

china! no country will nuke China this time so it should be safer to stay there. it would be stupid to.  if US will drop a bomb on them then millions of the chinese living in US will cram together to form an infantry and bug their military. Stay in Bejing, there are good hotels there.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Eternu on March 02, 2017, 02:17:29 PM
no way to get safe .....

china! no country will nuke China this time so it should be safer to stay there. it would be stupid to.  if US will drop a bomb on them then millions of the chinese living in US will cram together to form an infantry and bug their military. Stay in Bejing, there are good hotels there.
That is an interesting point of view you have there. Hmm, but i don't think that China would be safe as you say. Yes, there are Chinese people all around the world, in many countries. And if we take United states as example, there are more United states citizens than Chinese one, so that mean that rebellion would be crushed. Its same in any other country.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: GreenBits on March 02, 2017, 03:16:50 PM
Living rurally is the solution to this dilemma, I think.

And not just anywhere. You need to live a decent distance from a major population center. But there are unique benefits, I live rurally, I will explain:

1) bartering is still alive.
My neighbor to the right has a farm. My neighbor to the left has a farm, with livestock, as well. Suffice it to say, I can easily trade vice for.these resources, and have meat and vegetables despite if a supermarket is open, which leads me to

2) you can make your own food.
We grow about 50 percent of the vegetables we consume. If the shit hits the fan, I'm going to be eating mushrooms, leafy greens and fruit. And while I fucking heart bacon, I heart being alive much, much more.

3) communities and you
We are tight enough in our small community that those that produce food, can produce enough food to keep our community alive. Using the social network available, if you can contribute (labor is as valuable as skills) you will be fed. So survival essentially is a non issue.

4) we got gunz

I live in the country. I don't need to explain to you everyone here is strapped.

So, it's basically the cities that are fucked. Being rural means living. Independent of your local government, so the absence of government means little to Jack shit, in a situation like this.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 03, 2017, 02:30:55 AM
no way to get safe .....

china! no country will nuke China this time so it should be safer to stay there. it would be stupid to.  if US will drop a bomb on them then millions of the chinese living in US will cram together to form an infantry and bug their military. Stay in Bejing, there are good hotels there.

I disagree with you 100%. If a nuclear war occur, the Chinese cities will be one of the first to be targeted. And the worst part is that unlike the US and Russia, China doesn't have advanced air-defense systems.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: crwth on March 03, 2017, 03:03:49 AM
I don't know if it would still be safe anywhere, it would lead to collateral damages and other countries would also try to fight them who harmed their people. The safest place would be in outer space with aliens lol. Kidding aside, creating a vault that can last years would be great.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: s0nix on March 03, 2017, 10:27:42 PM
The safest place could be here:

https://i.imgur.com/8DljTFK.jpg

Good prevailing wind directions ;)
But I think it's boring there.
What to do there? Just for survival?



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 04, 2017, 06:19:43 AM
The safest place could be here:


Good prevailing wind directions ;)
But I think it's boring there.
What to do there? Just for survival?

Nice choice. But the only problem is that the nearest piece of land is many thousands of kms away in Antarctica. So what will you do for food (if all the fish dies of in the nuclear attack)?


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ArabianChain on March 04, 2017, 05:53:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DBqKyyb.jpg

If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth (https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/dec/16/if-nuclear-war-broke-out-wheres-the-safest-place-on-earth)

<< Nuclear tensions appear to be mounting again amidst political upheaval. So if the event of nuclear war, where should you head? >>


In one of those Atlas Missile Silos converted into homes in the Midwest.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: DeanShow on March 04, 2017, 06:03:14 PM
The safest place could be here:


Good prevailing wind directions ;)
But I think it's boring there.
What to do there? Just for survival?

Nice choice. But the only problem is that the nearest piece of land is many thousands of kms away in Antarctica. So what will you do for food (if all the fish dies of in the nuclear attack)?
I don't think so. Not the fact that the fish will die. Look at the reaction of nature after the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power Plant. Catfish still live, animals live and reproduce, the grass and the trees have no problems.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: JofryTheKing on March 16, 2017, 12:39:28 PM
On the uninhabited island) It's good to relax and wait until the war is over. I can not take food with me. There are a lot of bugs and spiders ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: gabmen on March 16, 2017, 01:41:20 PM
On the uninhabited island) It's good to relax and wait until the war is over. I can not take food with me. There are a lot of bugs and spiders ;D

I don't think even an uninhabited island can save you once nuclear war breaks out. The scale would be so immensely large that even the farthest and most remote places would be directly affected. We've all seen how a single nuclear bomb flattened an entire city, now imagine how hundreds of this would affect the earth It's destruction would be beyond imagination and nowhere would be safe


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: fuckitall on March 16, 2017, 01:56:05 PM
do you think if nuclear war breaks out then EARTH will have any safe place left ? I still dought it


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: eminem90 on March 16, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
do you think if nuclear war breaks out then EARTH will have any safe place left ? I still dought it
If I correctly understood the question, then you can answer it only one at a time. A safe place during a nuclear war is in a coffin. There will be quiet and calm.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ridery99 on March 16, 2017, 09:24:58 PM
I think best choice would be Germany because it's peaceful and well protected country. USA is a good choice too because it can grow corn and feed it's people. Only cockroaches will win no one can win ww3 I think Japan would be safe because they already won a tsunami disaster heavily prepared society


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 17, 2017, 07:20:12 AM
I don't think so. Not the fact that the fish will die. Look at the reaction of nature after the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power Plant. Catfish still live, animals live and reproduce, the grass and the trees have no problems.

If you look at the animals living in the contaminated zone around Chernobyl, then you will notice that almost all of them have been affected by radioactive poisoning. They are alive and reproducing, but their bodies contain radioactive pollution. Even eating catfish is dangerous, as the radioactive Cesium can deposit in the body of the consumer.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tvbcof on March 18, 2017, 12:55:23 AM

I don't think so. Not the fact that the fish will die. Look at the reaction of nature after the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power Plant. Catfish still live, animals live and reproduce, the grass and the trees have no problems.

If you look at the animals living in the contaminated zone around Chernobyl, then you will notice that almost all of them have been affected by radioactive poisoning. They are alive and reproducing, but their bodies contain radioactive pollution. Even eating catfish is dangerous, as the radioactive Cesium can deposit in the body of the consumer.

From what I've been able to observe (remotely via the net) the creatures who live in the no-go zones around Chernobyl, including the humans, seem remarkably unaffected.  This is not really a surprise.  The ones which were more effected would be less likely to be observed.

The upshot here is that radiological effects tend to be statistical.  The take-away is that one should assume that they may find themselves among the living (even if the quality/duration of life is likely to have been compromised) and at least consider the possibility.  I've got Cresson Kearny's seminal book kicking around for this reason...and not just in PDF format.

I don't have a photographic memory so I reduced Kearny's work down to a basic instruction:  get 4 or more feet of dirt over the top of my head and try to keep it that way as much as possible for two or three weeks.  When I lived in an urban area I used to make a mentally note of where there were culverts under the freeway and what-not.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 18, 2017, 04:58:19 AM
^^^^ There exists no evidence to prove that the people who inhabit the no-go zone around the Chernobyl reactor are unaffected by the radiation. Most of these people are elderly, and they may not seek medical treatment even if they suffer from any disease.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Mirconome on March 18, 2017, 05:21:34 AM
^^^^ There exists no evidence to prove that the people who inhabit the no-go zone around the Chernobyl reactor are unaffected by the radiation. Most of these people are elderly, and they may not seek medical treatment even if they suffer from any disease.
But many elderly people still live there and do not die quickly. After all, many years have passed since the Chernobyl explosion, and people after a couple of years have already returned back and live to this day. Of course there is no infrastructure, but life is still there.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tvbcof on March 18, 2017, 05:23:47 AM

^^^^ There exists no evidence to prove that the people who inhabit the no-go zone around the Chernobyl reactor are unaffected by the radiation. Most of these people are elderly, and they may not seek medical treatment even if they suffer from any disease.

Of course they have been effected.  Nobody said otherwise.  They were just lucky and as of the time of the footage had not gotten terminal cancer or whatever.  It may well have been a good trade-off for them to just stay put and try to enjoy what is left of their lives come what may vs. taking the generous $15.00 or whatever the Soviet govt offered to try to make a new life somewhere else.

Another point of interest was Dr. Graves who was near Dr. Slotin when he tried 'tickling the dragon's tail' and fucked up.  The former got a big enough dose of neutron and gamma to be quite sick and have all of his hair fall out.  (The later died after 9 days.)  Graves recovered, went back to work, and eventually had a healthy child...unless his wife cheated on him I suppose.  If anyone is watching some of the old declassified nuclear test footage, he is in some of it.  He died of a heart attack at age 55.  Unclear whether the accident contributed since his father also died of the same condition.  Probably to a degree it did.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: bra4our on March 18, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
I think the safest place to be on earth on the event of Nuclear War will be Australia, Australians are lovable people and i dont think have many haters in the world, Their isolation will be of great advantage to them should a Nuclear war starts. Ironically, the place is filled with dangerous and very deadly animals so if Nuclear war doesn't wipe them out, These animals will eventually do.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Vikash kumar on March 18, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
There is no any such safest place on earth the where nuclear war can broke out .the earth is fulfill with living things even if these are animals or plants but there is most contribution of these in our life .in absence of these we can't think about life.it helps us either directly or indirectly .the negative effect of nuclear war is Hiroshima and Nagashaki effect.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: onelove2111 on March 18, 2017, 11:52:04 AM
I think the safest place to be on earth on the event of Nuclear War will be Australia, Australians are lovable people and i dont think have many haters in the world, Their isolation will be of great advantage to them should a Nuclear war starts. Ironically, the place is filled with dangerous and very deadly animals so if Nuclear war doesn't wipe them out, These animals will eventually do.
When I was asked, I would like to leave the code, then Australia was in the last places because of poisonous and bloodthirsty animals, but if the question sounds, the code you escape from World War II, it really will be australia. This country has nothing to share with others.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: jems on March 18, 2017, 12:11:40 PM
if nuclear war broke out there is no safe place whether if you go in tunnel or underground because nuclear is very dangerous if happen to us doom days comes and if many survivor its good .


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Veider_lord on March 18, 2017, 12:34:16 PM
I will choose death, the soul will fly away and I will look from heaven to see how you seek refuge ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Winchester2211 on March 18, 2017, 12:46:59 PM
I will choose death, the soul will fly away and I will look from heaven to see how you seek refuge ;D
But if you're not watching? For example, I don't believe in life after death. Get that while others will have a chance to escape you will die voluntarily. This is not an option.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ilovefeetsmell on March 18, 2017, 01:54:40 PM
What if the nuclear war breaks then where's the safest place on earth? No one would know where is the safest place. We're just a human. It is very alarming if will gonna happen to us. I hope will not. I love my life, I want to live longer and happy. I want to travel around the world. I can't imagine to see myself in nuclear war then blow my head and body in just a minute. I think the safest place is to go outside the world.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: ilovefeetsmell on March 18, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
I will choose death, the soul will fly away and I will look from heaven to see how you seek refuge ;D

Why would you choose death? It's given in our life. There's no immortal in this earth. All of us will die and that is the end of our life story. You want to be died to see the people how will they die. Do you think there's a life after death? You don't know if you're not already died. No one could tell, what will happen to us after nuclear war breaks out. All people left after nuclear war will become slaves. Our health will be risky because of the radiation of nuclear weapon so does it mean that there's no safest place.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 18, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
if nuclear war broke out there is no safe place whether if you go in tunnel or underground because nuclear is very dangerous if happen to us doom days comes and if many survivor its good .

That depends upon the type of weapon used, and the amount of fissile material used for making the nuclear weapon. The radiation fallout will not be uniform across the globe. There will be areas which receive hardly any radiation exposure.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: canine2017 on March 18, 2017, 06:03:00 PM
if nuclear war broke out there is no safe place whether if you go in tunnel or underground because nuclear is very dangerous if happen to us doom days comes and if many survivor its good .

That depends upon the type of weapon used, and the amount of fissile material used for making the nuclear weapon. The radiation fallout will not be uniform across the globe. There will be areas which receive hardly any radiation exposure.
Still with the dust, water, fish, and so forth, radiation spreads around the world. It will not immediately and in varying degrees, but I doubt that will be possible to find places free from radiation.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: BitcoinMarshal on March 18, 2017, 08:01:07 PM
if nuclear war broke out there is no safe place whether if you go in tunnel or underground because nuclear is very dangerous if happen to us doom days comes and if many survivor its good .

That depends upon the type of weapon used, and the amount of fissile material used for making the nuclear weapon. The radiation fallout will not be uniform across the globe. There will be areas which receive hardly any radiation exposure.
Still with the dust, water, fish, and so forth, radiation spreads around the world. It will not immediately and in varying degrees, but I doubt that will be possible to find places free from radiation.
There could be no place to live if Nuclear was broke out because this can hurt all planet we can call this is end of world we all have to go in heaven or hell because its impossible to live here just because of radiation which will not allow any person to stay here on this earth


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: StefanReed on March 18, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
if nuclear war broke out there is no safe place whether if you go in tunnel or underground because nuclear is very dangerous if happen to us doom days comes and if many survivor its good .

That depends upon the type of weapon used, and the amount of fissile material used for making the nuclear weapon. The radiation fallout will not be uniform across the globe. There will be areas which receive hardly any radiation exposure.
Still with the dust, water, fish, and so forth, radiation spreads around the world. It will not immediately and in varying degrees, but I doubt that will be possible to find places free from radiation.
There could be no place to live if Nuclear was broke out because this can hurt all planet we can call this is end of world we all have to go in heaven or hell because its impossible to live here just because of radiation which will not allow any person to stay here on this earth
I think that nuclear power plants poses no risk to the earth. Remember the accident at Chernobyl or recently in Fokusime? No particular problems for the world was not. Problems will be only in the event of nuclear war.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Bitware on March 18, 2017, 09:12:24 PM
Anywhere not down-wind of the blast radius and, outside of the fallout zone, has arable land and potable water and is away from major transportation routes and cities... a piece of land way down near the end of a dirt road in an unincorporated township in an unincorporated county, preferably way back a long lane with a gate at the end of it. The lower population area the better, because it will be fewer people to shoot trying to steal - or kill you for - your supplies.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: andrei56 on March 18, 2017, 11:48:33 PM
Mexico, in some movies when there is  some kind of crisis the instinctive reaction is lets go to Mexico, like Mexico is outside the planet or something.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tvbcof on March 19, 2017, 12:31:49 AM

I think that nuclear power plants poses no risk to the earth. Remember the accident at Chernobyl or recently in Fokusime? No particular problems for the world was not. Problems will be only in the event of nuclear war.

Nuclear power plants have several notable features.

 - They don't need to be loaded into an aircraft or the tip of a rocket.  In practice, this means that they can contain a much higher amount of nuclear material than a purpose built nuclear weapon.  And inevitably they do.

 - Many of the older Western designs (like the GE ones of Fukushima) are built with spent ponds on top of the building.  It takes years for the spent fuel material to cool down and it is simply more convenient to store them on the roof.  If cooling water is not available for these ponds they will catch fire and the material (usually many tons of it) will go up in smoke...and come down as fallout.  Or, if one is lucky, simply explode and contaminate the general area with shattered fuel rods which are at least easier to bulldoze into a pit.  Whether it was the fuel pools or the reactor core that scattered rods around Fukushmia Daichi is currently not been published, but it's clear that it was one of the two.

 - The GE plants and others need a continuous source of power or they will (not 'might') suffer total core meltdowns.

 - They are situated within one's own country so an 'evil-doer' does not need to go to all of the trouble of transporting them half way into space or through customs or whatever.



Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: cosmicblue on March 19, 2017, 02:40:35 AM
No where on earth would be safe if a war broke out.
You know nuclear fall out can seep thru the earth and in the ground to poison the drinking water.
So those that say underground is the safest only will see their graves by going deep into the ground for safety. :D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 21, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
if nuclear war broke out there is no safe place whether if you go in tunnel or underground because nuclear is very dangerous if happen to us doom days comes and if many survivor its good .

That depends upon the type of weapon used, and the amount of fissile material used for making the nuclear weapon. The radiation fallout will not be uniform across the globe. There will be areas which receive hardly any radiation exposure.
Still with the dust, water, fish, and so forth, radiation spreads around the world. It will not immediately and in varying degrees, but I doubt that will be possible to find places free from radiation.

It may not be possible to find places which are free from radiation (not sure about that), but it may be possible to locate regions, were the radiation levels are low enough to permit human inhabitation.


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: SoulBargain on March 21, 2017, 02:24:20 AM
If nuclear war will broke out then there is no safe place in Earth but maybe outside the Earth which you will be safe from nuclear war but not from dying.

The only way for you to find a safe place is to produce one. You may develop a counter technology against this nuclear thingy. Maybe a protective shield that can handle it or make a artificial place outside Earth (if you ever watch Elysium) and make it secret and invicible so no one can and will target it.

And the best to do is to hope and pray that this will not happen.  ;)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: muddafudda on March 21, 2017, 07:53:23 AM
Unless you live somewhere or farm, your home will not be a good option. You should avoid cities (big or small) at all costs! After a nuclear attack chaos will be the new law and you need a safe place to protect yourself from radiation and people!

The ideal would be a bunker inside a mountain surrounded by sentry guns, but since no one around here is a billionaire or heir to some villain of 007, we have to keep our chances. Therefore, I believe that our best option is to use a simple tent, resistant and easy to mount / dismantle, because depending on the conditions we will have to move fast. But a simple tent is not able to provide the protection we need! Then, after mounting, cover the tent with aluminum foil (at least 30 layers with the brighter side facing the outside). Finally, grease the outside of the tent with extra virgin olive oil. Ready! These steps aim to ensure good thermal insulation, camouflage and a Mediterranean touch with olive oil.

That s it.... :)


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: Mometaskers on March 21, 2017, 08:36:09 AM
Maybe some insignificant tiny island out in the Pacific? Assuming the world enters nuclear winter I suppose you wouldn't have to worry about rising sea levels anymore.  :P

Chile also seem a nice place to hide in. I saw a video of exactly this topic in Youtube and they showed the wind patterns. There is a consistent stream of cool air from Antarctica that would blow away fallout. If all else fails, you can go and hide up the Andes.


Unless you live somewhere or farm, your home will not be a good option. You should avoid cities (big or small) at all costs! After a nuclear attack chaos will be the new law and you need a safe place to protect yourself from radiation and people!

The ideal would be a bunker inside a mountain surrounded by sentry guns, but since no one around here is a billionaire or heir to some villain of 007, we have to keep our chances. Therefore, I believe that our best option is to use a simple tent, resistant and easy to mount / dismantle, because depending on the conditions we will have to move fast. But a simple tent is not able to provide the protection we need! Then, after mounting, cover the tent with aluminum foil (at least 30 layers with the brighter side facing the outside). Finally, grease the outside of the tent with extra virgin olive oil. Ready! These steps aim to ensure good thermal insulation, camouflage and a Mediterranean touch with olive oil.

That s it.... :)


LOLed at "Mediterranean touch". I live along the Pacific rim, can I just use something else?  ;D


Title: Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth?
Post by: tango99 on March 21, 2017, 08:59:31 AM
There is no such place on earth if a real nuclear war begins. There will be a chain reaction, even a shift in the earth's crust, an eruption of volcanoes is possible.