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Hi,

I mistakenly transfered 120 BTC from mtGox into a TRC account on btc-e.com

This is half my life savings and this is not something I can afford to lose.

I was under the impression that if I transfered my BTC into the TRC account a conversion would take place, instead they are stuck in there.

btc-e.com have told me it is impossible to reverse this or get my coins out from the TRC account and into a BTC account which after posting on the Terracoin forum I have found out that Terracoin does accept BTC and it is possible to have these transfered into the BTC section of my account on btc-e.com

Here is the Blockchain

https://blockchain.info/address/1APa8aN5qdYGqgx7LnAZYzCxNVhock2hum


How can I get these back if btc-e.com are refusing to help saying it's impossible.

I have instuctions on how this can be easily done but btc-e.com are not exactly very helpful

The Bitcoins are currently sitting there gathering dust. :(

Please can some help advise on the best way I can get these back

Thanks

hello,

I'm a relative noob myself but I do happen to have both a btc-e and gox account...i'm not quite understanding what you mean...the address that you provided indicates quite a few BTC...you are only wishing to transfer this balance from your BTC-e back to your gox (or wherever?)

-nwfella

write to support. u cant send btc to lc

you cant send. they try to ripp him off now saying they cant help.

Hi thanks for replying,

Yes I just want the BitCoins returned to my MtGox account.

~According to Terracoin support BitCoins can go into a TRC account, and btc-e can transfer these back into my MTGox account

I've contacted btc-e.com support and they are telling me it's impossible how ever it is not.

Quote from Terracoin support forum "It is not impossible since they own private key. "


Terracoin support forum http://www.terracointalk.org/index.php/topic,215.0.html

Like I said it was done in errror, I though they would be converted into Terracoin if I sent them from BTC to TRC

They don't automatically do it, but the BTC-e admin can get your private key for your TRC wallet, and since it uses the same wallet generation code as Bitcoin, gain access to the funds in your bitcoin account.

i ment that is technicaly not possible. but ur coins are in an btc adress right now at ur info you postet. so they try to rippoff you..

Normally your 120 BTC didn't move out of mtgox. As it might have an error before sending to an incompatible address.

Thats pretty much how it seems, yes. :(

I believe that some other coin addresses will flag a non supported BTC address and return them, however Terracoin does not have this in place. it is possible to transfer BTC into TRC, and it is also possible to ge them out of there. But btc-e.com are refusing to help.

https://blockchain.info/address/1APa8aN5qdYGqgx7LnAZYzCxNVhock2hum

this adress is from mtgox or btc-e?

that address is a btc-e.com TRC address

so when you log into your btc-e account...it's indicating that you don't in fact have 120BTC but whatever equivalent # of TRC at the time you sent over?

I'm not understanding how your TRC's are showing up as 120BTC on blockchain.info

also...could you please clear up whether your coins are stuck in LTC (per your title) or in TRC (per last post)?

coz it isnt a trc address. thats an bitcoin adress. better you call them and speak with them

@nwfella

yes the 120 BitCoins left my mtGox account when I transfered them to btc-e.com

They where transfered as BitCoins so show as Bitcoins

Sorry yes these where transfered into a TRC account on btc-e.com


Deposit TRC
Your address for deposit TRC:
1APa8aN5qdYGqgx7LnAZYzCxNVhock2hum

Are you sure thats a BitCoin address, I already contacted them, and they refused to help.
How can I get hold of a contact number

Thanks a lot

Try withdrawing TRC/ BTC

yep just testet it i was not able to send bitcoin to my ltc adress

relatively sure...it's currently showing a balance of 120BTC.

Your not seeing this when you log into your BTC-e account?!

-nwfella

My account on btc-e.com shows 0 for everything :(
in my funds section

Yes when checking the funds section all are showing as Zero :(

Still try.

Ok...and can you confirm that you actually transferred the BTC from your gox account? And if so, that the address you sent it to belongs to one of your BTC-e accounts?  (again, could you confirm whether we are discussing LTC, or TRC since I'm still a bit confused on that point)

-nwfella

this is a bitcoin address that you sent your bitcoins to. It's most probably an address to which you don't have a private key. so you lost your 120 bitcoins...

that shit bricks

ya that is definatly an btc address. some ramdome guy went rich now.

No, BTC-e did. They can still get the private key.

ya better call btc-e.

so terracoins have the same address set like bitcoin? if that's the case then yes, they should have the private key...

+1

TRC and BTC share the same address's so a TRC Priv Key can be used to generate the same BTC address. Get that TRC Priv Key from btc-e as TradeFortress has said, and you'll be fine. Or, get them to just sweep that address and credit the 120 BTC to you btc-e account!

Agreed.  If BTC-e does not want to give you the key for whatever reason, perhaps they could add it to the Bitcoin wallet they are hosting for you, and then what you've already sent should get credited to your account and you can withdraw.

+1

I emailed them numerous times. Since they thought I was new they tried to fob me off with "it's impossible"

I know it's not, yes I would like to call them but I can't find a number for them.

Thanks for all your help, I will email them again with a link to this forum. :)

good luck

I hope you succeed.

thanks, me too.

Stressful :(

they have to give it back. there no other choise

I hope so, thanks for the reasurance :)

any good news?

THIS!

If they don't credit those bitcoins for you, there might be 2 reasons:
1. They don't understand the situation described above (namely, if they have the privkey for the TRC address, they also have the privkey for the corresponding BTC address).
2. They don't want to help you, they'd rather steal that BTC.

Just send them another ticket/request pointing them to this forum thread.
If they still don't help, ask again harder.
If they still don't help, it can be deduced that they aren't acting in good belief.
Then speak up, file a scam report on the forum, ruin their reputation.
Then we'll add another exchange site to our avoid list.

really annoying  :-\

Good luck :(

@MegaBrutal and others, thanks for the replies,

No word yet, I hear they are pretty bad at responding. Last time I sent them an email I never got a reply for a couple of days.

I've had a reply from a Terracoin developer explaining the exact process to return my Bitcoins


1. export TRC private key, associated to the destination TRC address used.

2. using their bitcoin wallet, import that private key ("importprivkey"
rpc command) to create the bitcoin address matching the one you sent
bitcoins to.

3. ensure they received the indicated amount (you should provide btc-e
the transaction id seen on your local bitcoin wallet for easier checks &
processing).

4. when fully checked, fund your btc accound with the transaction amount.

Seems fairly simple.

arrrrgggggggggg  

Just a good idea to topic starter.

Create a new topic and ask people to send a message to BTC-E on your behalf. More messages they receive, more attention it will lock, more likely they will do what you ask.

Prepare a short but correct to-do what BTC-E should do to recover your funds.

Promise 30% of your recovered funds (once recovered) shared between every person who tried to help you. This help can be a daily message to BTC-E or creating attention around the web or social.

This will work for sure.

I wish you the best of luck in this!
120BTC - you'd think they'd understand that you are not 'new' to the game...

Thanks, fingers crossed they pull there fingers out.

interesting story - any news?

Has it confirmed yet? If so, how many confirms?

Try writing them a very clear, professional, polite letter explaining the situation and asking if they could go into their terracoind and dump the private key of the address that matches your btc address that you sent to.

They get a lot of nasty and poorly written emails so I suspect they immediately ignore something like this that isn't actually their fault. While it's 'easy' to get the private key, perhaps they don't feel like taking the effort to double check that your story is true.

Write them again, and keep writing them, politely. Hopefully they will eventually help you.

Still no reply from BTC-E, hoping they are just busy not ignoring me.

:(

Hello

Today, we will contact the developers of TRC and try to solve your problem

Great, thanks

1. Get access to your terracoind
2. dumpprivkey [address]
3. send coins to spikeyman00

good think that you will get it back

May the force be with you!

I hope BTC-E fixes the problem!

Very interesting following this thread. OP, i really hope you get good news...

wooow , unbelivable,..

We solved your issue and of course we dont need contact trc developers to dump key and importt key in bitcoin wallet :)

Well done

I got them back woop woop, thanks a lot for all your replies and help and info.

It's all very much appreciated.

Today is a good day :)


Thanks to everyone.

thats nice.

I was under an impression that transactions that are not valid, and can never enter the blockchain can't be initiated.
Could this be considered a bug?

I'm glad it was resolved ;)

Yes, of course. I am also glad that it worked out for you.

I believe after speaking with a few different people, certain other coin account will reject non valid transfers ie not of the same type. Terracoin does not do this, and Terracoin addresses are also valid BTC addresses.
Someone mentioned that the Terracoin developers should address this, and that he was afraid of this happening.

Yes, the addresses have built-in error-detection, so that making up an address or even typoing a letter in a real address should be detected and the transaction will not be made.  Most of the alt-coins also have a specific unique format of the address, but Terracoin and BTC are indistinguishable.  I wouldn't be surprised if this happens again. :(

Congrats to BTC-E!!!

he got his btc back

I am impressed btc-e took the time to do this!

Thats pretty tough man, sounds strange though it would do that

BTC and TRC addresses and keys are the same. When he "sent my bitcoins to a TRC address", the transaction was recorded on the BTC block chain, so he actually sent them to a BTC address. TRC was never actually involved in the transaction. Remember that coins actually reside in the block chain and not in a wallet. BTC-e probably believed it was impossible to fix because they looked at the TRC block chain and found no transaction. However, since TRC addresses and keys are the same as BTC addresses, all BTC-e had to do was to get the private key from the TRC wallet and add it to the BTC wallet in order to access the coins in the BTC block chain.

I hope that explains it.

I think the whole story is interesting. I'm glad it all worked out.

Interesting. I don't know why Terracoin developer starts Terracoin's address with 1, not T.

That will cause a conflict with BTC address, glad it's sorted out now for OP.

Congratulations. I'm glad to see your problem was resolved.

Certainly is an interesting thread to follow

nice job in the end BTC-e

good news the issue was resolved.

Just one question, would it be possible to happen the other way around (meaning TRC sent to BTC wallet)?

Good Guy BTC-e :)

Of course. Although I'm not an expert, if TRC is using the same "space" as BTC, you could (theoratically)
have the same wallet for both of them. Nice mess.

I did the same mistake and my BTCs gone, ok that was my mistake but also it's about design of the BTC-e's deposit page. At least they can put a warning clause on the page. They had better warn people if it's possible to send BTC to TRC account via "WRONG ADRESS", it cost 150$ to learn this for me  ;D

at first they said "Unfortunately, we cannot return them to You. It is technically impossible." 
and  I said them "if they want they can do" because I knew that they did it before.
after that they said "We will try to return them to you but does not guarantee that it will happen."
and of course they did nothing

Can you see that how professional they are...

we can see how professional you are when you send your bitcoins to terracoin address...

 ;D

lol

-PB

He's a user who made a mistake that the exchange can easily fix. I can't see any reason for the "lol'ling".