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Title: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on May 11, 2017, 05:01:52 AM
Date: Saturday, July 29th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:00 BCT / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 00:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 2:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/


https://i.imgur.com/alfBRPp.jpg

Main Card (PPV)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Daniel Cormier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cormier) (19-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jon Jones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jones) (22-1) (Light Heavyweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Tyron Woodley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyron_Woodley) (17-3-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Demian Maia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demian_Maia) (25-6) (Welterweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Cristiane Justino (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiane_Justino) (17-1) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Tonya Evinger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonya_Evinger) (19-5) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Ricardo Lamas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Lamas) (17-5) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jason Knight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Knight_(fighter)) (20-2) (Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Robbie Lawler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Lawler) (27-11) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Donald Cerrone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Cerrone) (32-8) (Welterweight)
https://i.imgur.com/9MsDPHl.gif Jimi Manuwa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Manuwa) (17-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/uZhn3cq.gif Volkan Oezdemir (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkan_Oezdemir) (14-1) (Light Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Aljamain Sterling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aljamain_Sterling) (13-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Renan Barao (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renan_Bar%C3%A3o) (34-4) (140 lbs Catchweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Brian Ortega (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Ortega) (11-0) vs. https://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Renato Moicano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renato_Moicano) (11-0-1) (Featherweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Sage Northcutt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage_Northcutt) (8-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/ecoGNcd.gif John Makdessi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Makdessi) (14-6) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Andre Fili (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Fili) (16-4) vs. TBD (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Eric Shelton (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Eric-Shelton-86414) (10-3) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Jarred Brooks (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jarred-Brooks-174665) (12-0) (Flyweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Kailin Curran (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kailin_Curran) (4-4) vs. https://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Alexandra Albu (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Aleksandra-Albu-144949) (2-0) (Women's Strawweight)
https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Josh Burkman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Burkman) (28-15) vs. https://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Drew Dober (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Dober) (17-8) (Lightweight)
https://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Dimitri Smoliakov (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dmitry-Smoliakov-125781) (8-2) vs. https://i.imgur.com/7xYkGn0.gif Adam Wieczorek (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Adam-Wieczorek-86930) (8-1) (Heavyweight)

Other

- Cris Cyborg vastly expressed her desire to face the inaugural UFC Women's featherweight champion Germaine de Randamie at this event. However, de Randamie indicated that she would not face Cyborg due to her repeated transgressions with PEDs (despite Cyborg only failing a test in 2011). The UFC decided to strip her of the title on June 19 due to her refusal to defend it and then booked Cyborg against promotional newcomer and current Invicta FC featherweight champion Megan Anderson for the vacant title. In turn, Anderson pulled out on June 27 due to personal reasons and was replaced by current Invicta FC bantamweight champion Tonya Evinger on June 27.

- A featherweight bout between former UFC Featherweight Championship challengers Ricardo Lamas and Chan Sung Jung was originally in the works for UFC on Fox: Weidman vs. Gastelum. However on May 12, the bout was confirmed for this event. The pairing was originally slated to take place in July 2013 at UFC 162, but Jung was pulled from the bout in favor of a title fight against then-champion Jose Aldo at UFC 163. Subsequently, Jung pulled out of the fight in early June due to a severe knee injury. He was replaced by Jason Knight on June 6.

- Doo Ho Choi was expected to face Andre Fili at the event, but pulled out on June 14 due to injury. Artem Lobov revealed that he was offered the fight, but declined in order to help Conor McGregor prepare for his boxing match against Floyd Mayweather Jr. on June 16.

- Claudio Puelles was expected to face Sage Northcutt, but pulled out on June 19 due to a knee injury. He was replaced by John Makdessi on June 20.

- A welterweight bout between former UFC Welterweight Champion Robbie Lawler and former UFC Lightweight Championship challenger Donald Cerrone was originally booked for UFC 205. However, Lawler pulled out to take a little more time after recovering from his previous fight at UFC 201. The fight was then rescheduled to take place on July 8, 2017 at UFC 213. Reports began to circulate on June 28 that Cerrone had sustained a minor injury and that the pairing would be left intact, but shifted to this event. UFC President Dana White confirmed later that Cerrone in fact had a staph infection and a pulled groin, and while the plan was to keep the bout, it wouldn't happen at this event. In the end, the bout was confirmed on July 2 for UFC 214.

- On June 28, the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) denied former UFC Bantamweight Champion Renan Barao a bout at that weight class against Aljamain Sterling, due to his previous weight issues at UFC 177, in Sacramento, California. The bout will still happen, but at a catchweight of 140 pounds. CSAC Executive Director Andy Foster said that if Barao makes weight with no issues, the CSAC will revisit the possibility of allowing him at 135 lbs in the future.

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Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: shine1123 on May 11, 2017, 05:23:07 AM
Is this already confirmed ? If yes, i will watch this match for sure. The last time this match canceled because jones fails drug test. I hope there is no problem on this card, my prediction is 5 rounds full match. GET HYPE.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc_angela on May 11, 2017, 06:03:53 AM
I hope the fight will push through this time. We all have been waiting for this fight to happen again. Cormier has already swept the division and there is no one to fight but Jon Jones. I don't see Jones winning this if the fight happen. He need some tune up fight before fighting DC. IMHO.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on May 11, 2017, 06:36:23 AM
I see website like mmafighting(dot)com also published news that there will be Cormier vs Jones 2. Much that I am excited to see this two great fighters square off, I am afraid that there will be another drama that will surface and have this fight cancelled. I like Jones and I like Cormier but Jone's have too many excess baggage to face that sometimes affects the fight were he is booked.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Kemarit on May 11, 2017, 10:54:46 AM
If indeed if this fight is confirmed, then Cormier will be the favorite on this second fight between the two. I think if Jones chances will not be good because of his long layoffs. He should get at least get one fight before getting Cormier, to better prepare him. Also, the problem with Jones is more on mental so I don't know how will he cope up with the new version of Cormier. I think Cormier will still play the mind games here, because he knows Jones usually snaps with any antics he throw on Jones.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on May 11, 2017, 02:35:17 PM
This is early, too early in my opinion. I think this is only a rumor. Has Dana White confirmed it? until then I think it's not going to happen this quick, but damn if it happens it's going to be huge. Clearly the biggest UFC fight in years, we all have been waiting for this. I hope Cormier wins. I cant stand the stuck up Jones.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Clement Kaliyar on May 11, 2017, 05:32:16 PM
This is early, too early in my opinion. I think this is only a rumor. Has Dana White confirmed it? until then I think it's not going to happen this quick, but damn if it happens it's going to be huge. Clearly the biggest UFC fight in years, we all have been waiting for this. I hope Cormier wins. I cant stand the stuck up Jones.
I can understand your frustration with Jones,he might be a fuck up outside the fight arena but he is the best MMA fighter ever and to defeat him this is the best opportunity for Cormier because he is coming after a long break and when he returned last time he was not that fluent against OSP ,so this is the only chance for anyone to defeat Jones and Cormier is the best man to do that as he is unstoppable against every other fighters except Jones.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on May 11, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
Daniel Cormier is an insecure spoiled kid. In the Joe Rogan interview he pretty much admitted that the partied and did a lot of drugs just in case he lost then he would have an excuse to say.

He deserves a good beating. Unfortunately he is too good. If Daniel Cormier had his reach then he would ave better chances, but he is the underdog.

Anyway, looking forward to this. If DC fucks up again, his career is over, and so is UFC's reputation.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Marma Kalari on May 11, 2017, 07:06:13 PM
If Daniel Cormier had his reach then he would ave better chances, but he is the underdog.
He could not do anything to increase his reach,why is everyone talking about increasing anyones reach and height advantage when they really cannot do anything about that because Jon Jones enjoys his perks because he is having unfair advantage with his reach and height.  :D :P Just start accepting that Jon Jones is so gifted genetically and he has a fight IQ than the rest and so is the reason he is unbeaten. :P


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on May 11, 2017, 07:13:20 PM
Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier is the most anticipated match i am looking for in a long time along with Tony Ferguson and Khabib Nurmagomedov and i hope we could see those fights this year and yet there is another dream match that is possible now with the return of GSP fight against Michael Bisping being called off we could possibly see a fight against Anderson Silva which was a much anticipated match for a very long time and the fight everyone was waiting to see for a long time,hope they will make that fight happen.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 12, 2017, 12:18:11 AM
@eaLiTy. Khabib should not be given a fight in the UFC after what he did in his last event. I speculate he was trying to pull away from the fight because he knew Tony Ferguson will beat him. Tony vs Nate Diaz would be a better fight and the winner having a title shot vs Conor.

Look at the picture. Why is Freddie Roach stopping DC?


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on May 12, 2017, 04:25:11 AM
@ bbc.reporter they way Khabib approached his weight cutting was amateur and he approached the wight cutting like he did always and with increase in age your body might not respond in a way like it used to be in the past and even during the Michael Johnson fight he was struggling hard to make weight and somehow managed to shed the extra pound in time and even this time around with just five pounds left his body shut down,he was not ducking anyone and that is the fact.
The man in the picture is Freddie Roach look alike . :)


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on May 12, 2017, 03:03:11 PM
If Daniel Cormier had his reach then he would ave better chances, but he is the underdog.
He could not do anything to increase his reach,why is everyone talking about increasing anyones reach and height advantage when they really cannot do anything about that because Jon Jones enjoys his perks because he is having unfair advantage with his reach and height.  :D :P Just start accepting that Jon Jones is so gifted genetically and he has a fight IQ than the rest and so is the reason he is unbeaten. :P


Im not talking about increasing his reach obviously, im just saying that if he had a bigger reach he would get a bigger chance at winning.

But you have to be realistic, Jon Bones Jones has the biggest reach on the entire UFC which is an huge advantage when combined with high skills, high athleticism etc.

DC will need to do something amazing to beat Bones.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 12, 2017, 03:24:35 PM
Have to be thinking Jones for the win, the guy is a beast, a thoroughbred. I will be betting on him to win by KO.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on May 12, 2017, 03:54:39 PM
Have to be thinking Jones for the win, the guy is a beast, a thoroughbred. I will be betting on him to win by KO.

I would have bet on Jones normally, but don't underestimate DC, he went for 12 rounds last time. People said that it was a boring fight, but if DC has better luck this time he can go for the takedown and end Jon Bones Jones with his superior ground skills.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: masterzino on May 12, 2017, 09:16:05 PM
Have to be thinking Jones for the win, the guy is a beast, a thoroughbred. I will be betting on him to win by KO.

Totally agree, Jones is mine favorite too. I will bet something like 0.1BTC but just for a win. KO part is too risky for my taste.

DO you know an option to watch it for free?


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on May 12, 2017, 10:32:39 PM
Have to be thinking Jones for the win, the guy is a beast, a thoroughbred. I will be betting on him to win by KO.

Totally agree, Jones is mine favorite too. I will bet something like 0.1BTC but just for a win. KO part is too risky for my taste.

DO you know an option to watch it for free?

Pretty sure there will be live streams on p2p programs like sopcast or the new Acestream which is pretty cool. There are always livestream to be found on reddit usually

Remember that watching livestreams is illegal... there is like a 0.000001% of getting reported or something so I would use a VPN but most likely nobody gives a fuck that you are watching copyrighted material.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 13, 2017, 02:06:02 AM
Have to be thinking Jones for the win, the guy is a beast, a thoroughbred. I will be betting on him to win by KO.

A KO versus Daniel? Good luck with that. Daniel is also as much as strong as Jon Jones but more disciplined.

@EaLity. I know that is not Freddie Roach. I was joking.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on May 13, 2017, 01:43:22 PM
Daniel is really strong. He did some amazing takedowns WWE style in the last fight where he moved Bones Jones around like a lanky ragdoll. But this time Bones Jones has put on some mass and is not as skinny tho.

In about 2:50 here you can see the great takedown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grvep9n8rJ8

He lifts him up like its nothing lol.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on May 13, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
Jon Jones is a cheater in my book, who knows how many times he has fooled the system to get on there with enhancements. Also let's not forget that Jon Jones lost the fight against Alexander Gustafsson (at least in my opinion, or was very close to losing him) and the judges gave him the decision in one of those controversial nights.

In fact I would like to see an Alexander Gustafsson rematch above a DC rematch.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on May 13, 2017, 11:20:24 PM
@pereira4 ,Jon Jones was a junkie but he never used performance enhancing drugs and do you think that he was really into it because we cannot see much of a change physically after the implementation of USADA as most of the PED users are out of shape now because of the strict policy and it is not that easy to bypass them,we are seeing improvements in the physical appearance of Jones recently and he never won the fights with his big muscular body,he won because of his creativity inside the cage.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: gabmen on May 14, 2017, 10:31:10 AM
well hopefully this is true and if it is, hopefully nothing happens again to bones. this has been too far overdue and with the way cormier defeated rumble the last time around, I think this is the next big fight that everyone should look forward to. I think aside from any side issues, bones still is the best light heavyweight out there.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 15, 2017, 12:58:23 AM
@pereira4. They are all the same. If everyone of them can avoid the detection of steroid use then all of them would use it. The Brazilians are known to be the ones who use a lot of steroids. It explains why Junior Dos Santos was easily knocked out by Stipe.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Baofeng on May 17, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
Jon Jones is a cheater in my book, who knows how many times he has fooled the system to get on there with enhancements. Also let's not forget that Jon Jones lost the fight against Alexander Gustafsson (at least in my opinion, or was very close to losing him) and the judges gave him the decision in one of those controversial nights.

In fact I would like to see an Alexander Gustafsson rematch above a DC rematch.

I think the Alexander Gustafsson can go either way. But since he is the champion that time the judges give him the nod. As for the cheating, I always thought that he intentionally poke the eye of his opponent. The rule says you need to have a close fist, but he always open his fist that sometimes he accidentally? poke some of his opponents and never deducted a point by the referee. This for me is the special treatment and he thinks that he can always do it without any reprimand from the referee.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on May 17, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
I think this friday is also bellator 179, Paul Daley vs Rory MacDonald.

There could be some good fights on that card although unfortunately Michael Venom Page vs Derek Anderson was cancelled after Page suffered a knee injury.

I think the card airs early in the morning for north america and will be on a tape replay. Have to get those bets in earlier than normal.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Siren on May 17, 2017, 10:33:06 PM
I think this friday is also bellator 179, Paul Daley vs Rory MacDonald.

There could be some good fights on that card although unfortunately Michael Venom Page vs Derek Anderson was cancelled after Page suffered a knee injury.

I think the card airs early in the morning for north america and will be on a tape replay. Have to get those bets in earlier than normal.

I didn't know that Rory has moved to Bellator. He was once regarded as the "heir apparent" to fellow Canadian GSP. But two unsuccessful fights against Robbie Lawler and Stephen Thompson put him out of the contention. I think this will be an easy fight for now. He has all the advantage against Paul Daley so I think he will win this one to get back his confidence level.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on May 17, 2017, 11:42:10 PM
@Hydrogen i am going for a parlay for Bellator 179 ,Rory MacDonald vs Paul Daley, Paul Daley does not even have a chance against Rory MacDonald as he is a beast and he has defeated the current Welterweight champ Tyron Woodley and Paul Daley does not even have a good resume and i have seen his sloppy fights in UFC and Dana banned him for life for hitting the opponent after the bell . :D another match is Liam McGeary vs Linton Vassell, Liam Mcgeary will take down Vassel pretty easily and will defeat him within two rounds.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 08, 2017, 06:44:33 PM
We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins


I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 08, 2017, 07:34:45 PM
We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins

I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.

Jon Jones problem is substance abuse. Alcohol, cocaine, whatever. DC's problem seems to be controlling his eating. Maybe DC is similar to Johny Hendricks. I'm not certain how that will go down. DC looked a lot better fighting Rumble Johnson than Jon Jones looked fighting Ovince St Preux.

Didn't realize Sage Northcutt was fighting. That guy does a good job with his social media and self promotion. I think that's why he gets paid more than other athletes. Sage Northcutt has about twice as many twitter followers as Gegard Mousasi. If only he could do better in his fights.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jamyr on July 08, 2017, 08:44:22 PM
This fight is one of the most anticipated UFC rematch as many fools like me idolize Jon Jones and his unpredictable way of fighting. So I am for Jones here via scorecards. Because I want a part 3. :D


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on July 08, 2017, 08:46:32 PM
@thejaytiesto I wont bet against Jon Jones as i consider him the greatest fighter of all time,i really like Daniel Cormier when he started his career in the heavy weight division and was following all his fights till now,he is the second best fighter but age is also not in his side. ;)

@Hydrogen This time around Daniel Cormier wont be having his usual weight cutting issues as he is under the control of a dietitian and he is following his routine and wight cutting rules have changed now,you have to start weight cutting two months before the fight and the commission will monitor these things and if they find they are over weight two months prior ,then they wont allow them to fight cutting the weight.



Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: peter0425 on July 08, 2017, 09:23:05 PM
@thejaytiesto I wont bet against Jon Jones as i consider him the greatest fighter of all time,i really like Daniel Cormier when he started his career in the heavy weight division and was following all his fights till now,he is the second best fighter but age is also not in his side. ;)

@Hydrogen This time around Daniel Cormier wont be having his usual weight cutting issues as he is under the control of a dietitian and he is following his routine and wight cutting rules have changed now,you have to start weight cutting two months before the fight and the commission will monitor these things and if they find they are over weight two months prior ,then they wont allow them to fight cutting the weight.



I'm leaning toward Daniel Cormier here. Jon Jones has the psychological disadvantage this time around. DC will show who is the real champion and he really wants to fucked up Jones and  this time he has the chance and will not let this slip away. DC will use his wrestling and this will be a long and grinding fight that will favor him. DC will come and ready to fight but I don't know about Jon Jones. Daniel Cormier by decision.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 09, 2017, 06:30:56 AM
^ Exactly.  For the odds they're laying on Jones + his absence and his personal problems, I'd rather take Cormier here.  Seems like the bookies are over rating Jones right now.  Let's see how the lines move as the event comes closer.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 09, 2017, 01:10:31 PM
We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins

I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.

Jon Jones problem is substance abuse. Alcohol, cocaine, whatever. DC's problem seems to be controlling his eating. Maybe DC is similar to Johny Hendricks. I'm not certain how that will go down. DC looked a lot better fighting Rumble Johnson than Jon Jones looked fighting Ovince St Preux.

Didn't realize Sage Northcutt was fighting. That guy does a good job with his social media and self promotion. I think that's why he gets paid more than other athletes. Sage Northcutt has about twice as many twitter followers as Gegard Mousasi. If only he could do better in his fights.

The only chance to turn his life arround is to win this match, get totally clean and never have a single mistake ever again. The fans will not tolerate another show. If he gets disqualified in UFC 214 because of traces of coke found or whatnot, his career is over. I don't think Dana White is stupid enough to give him another chance. It's pretty much over if he makes another mistake.

Sage Northcutt looks like a Ken or something. He must have so many female fans. Good looking people have it a lot easier in social media. Now he just needs to not get his ass kicked to continue cashing in on that.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 10, 2017, 09:18:26 PM
^ Exactly.  For the odds they're laying on Jones + his absence and his personal problems, I'd rather take Cormier here.  Seems like the bookies are over rating Jones right now.  Let's see how the lines move as the event comes closer.
The only reason the bookies are favoring Jones is simply because he is the best fighter who stepped into the octagon and even in the first fight DC was in prime shape and still he could not do anything to Jones and that is the only reason the odds are in favor of Jones. They really hate each other and i am sure both fighters will prepare to their best of their ability.






Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 11, 2017, 02:44:42 PM
Official trailer and extended preview are now out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8lL0EItUvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwjELWV4mMI

Can't wait for this one. I can't decide who im betting for... I may not even bet and just watch the fight without the stress of risking real money.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 13, 2017, 04:04:44 AM
Official trailer and extended preview are now out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8lL0EItUvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwjELWV4mMI

Can't wait for this one. I can't decide who im betting for... I may not even bet and just watch the fight without the stress of risking real money.

Hehe.  you beat me to it.  Thanks for posting.  And I changed the original post btw.  Look at the event poster, looks really good.  I wish I could get a real one, frame it and get it displayed it in my office.

https://i.imgur.com/alfBRPp.jpg


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 13, 2017, 03:35:29 PM
Official trailer and extended preview are now out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8lL0EItUvU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwjELWV4mMI

Can't wait for this one. I can't decide who im betting for... I may not even bet and just watch the fight without the stress of risking real money.

Hehe.  you beat me to it.  Thanks for posting.  And I changed the original post btw.  Look at the event poster, looks really good.  I wish I could get a real one, frame it and get it displayed it in my office.

https://i.imgur.com/alfBRPp.jpg

Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.

The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 13, 2017, 06:11:22 PM
Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.

Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 14, 2017, 05:55:15 AM

Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.

The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.

I honestly find Mayweather lacking with the trash talking.  He doesn't know how, and that's weird considering that black people are really good at it.  He's behind McGregor in promoting this fight by a mile. 

Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.

Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.

Good point!  Is there a prop bet for the Jones pulling out again.  :D



Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 14, 2017, 04:08:00 PM

Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.

The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.

I honestly find Mayweather lacking with the trash talking.  He doesn't know how, and that's weird considering that black people are really good at it.  He's behind McGregor in promoting this fight by a mile. 

Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.

Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.

Good point!  Is there a prop bet for the Jones pulling out again.  :D



Mayweather made Conor look back yesterday in the New York City conference. Conor is overplaying his character and looked out of character. Mayweather clowned him calling him Dana White's bitch and throwing him 1 dollar bills like a cheap stripper.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 14, 2017, 09:52:49 PM
Bellator 181 main card starts in around 3 hours from the timestamp on this post if I got the time right.

If they re-scheduled Valentina Shevchenko vs Amanda Nunes for UFC 214 it would have 4 title fights.

Its been awhile since Luke Rockhold or Tony Ferguson fought. Wonder when some of those big names will be stepping back into the cage.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 15, 2017, 03:52:23 AM
Bellator 181 main card starts in around 3 hours from the timestamp on this post if I got the time right.

If they re-scheduled Valentina Shevchenko vs Amanda Nunes for UFC 214 it would have 4 title fights.

Its been awhile since Luke Rockhold or Tony Ferguson fought. Wonder when some of those big names will be stepping back into the cage.

Omg, they should have done that!  It's just around three weeks away from the day they're supposed to fight.  I think Nunes would be more ready by then.  She shouldn't be getting away with all her BS.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 16, 2017, 09:20:37 PM
@Hydrogen UFC 214 is already a stacked card and i dont think they will include Valentina and Nunes in this card but to be fair with Valentina they should put her in that fight card as she trained really hard for the title fight and i really thought Valentina could win that fight and since there is no fight card in August i think we will have to wait till September.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Siren on July 16, 2017, 09:45:30 PM
@Hydrogen UFC 214 is already a stacked card and i dont think they will include Valentina and Nunes in this card but to be fair with Valentina they should put her in that fight card as she trained really hard for the title fight and i really thought Valentina could win that fight and since there is no fight card in August i think we will have to wait till September.

Yeah. I don't think they should include it as well. They should have put the two in a separate event headlining them. Nunes has a lot of mental issues and she should have first overcome it before getting into the ring otherwise we will that as an excuse if ever she looses to Valentina. I hope that the fight can really push through because its gonna be a good fight, IMHO.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on July 16, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
still on fire only had one bet santiago ponzinibbio!

this card im not to sure yet need to see the lines but i think woodly will be my main bet


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jamyr on July 17, 2017, 06:08:12 PM

Daniel Cormier looks like he has white eyes like a Mortal Kombat character like Subzero lol.

The buildup is great, I want to see the press conference and see them go at it, but right now the Mayweather and McGregor press conferences are being one of the most entertaining I have seen. Conor rocked Mayweather on stage yesterday, but Mayweather also got some good ones.

I honestly find Mayweather lacking with the trash talking.  He doesn't know how, and that's weird considering that black people are really good at it.  He's behind McGregor in promoting this fight by a mile. 

Jones seems to be in denial about having a substance abuse issue. More than 5 years of DUI's, car wrecks and positive cocaine tests & he still doesn't appear to recognize there's a problem there. He could be an addict.

Does anyone laugh about this card having 3 title fights on it because everyone is afraid Jon Jones will make a bad decision and not be able to fight? That's hilarious to me.

Good point!  Is there a prop bet for the Jones pulling out again.  :D



Mayweather made Conor look back yesterday in the New York City conference. Conor is overplaying his character and looked out of character. Mayweather clowned him calling him Dana White's bitch and throwing him 1 dollar bills like a cheap stripper.

Why talk about a different match that is off topic? This is the thread for Jones and Cormier. Go talk about other match in their thread.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 18, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
BJJ Scout released a good breakdown of Jones Vs Cormier clinch & hand fighting in the first fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq96XmBWSn4

All of BJJ Scout's videos are A+ imo.

Probably the best at breaking down wrestling/grappling. The best that releases videos and shares everything they know publicly anyway.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 18, 2017, 11:07:23 PM
@Hydrogen that was a really good break down of the first fight and thanks for sharing that link,yes the clinch game is really important and i am sure this fight will be better than the first one,Jones is coming back after a long break and he looked jacked,i am not sure how that will reflect in his game but i expect we could see the best Jones.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 19, 2017, 10:20:29 AM
Yup.  Coach Zahabi is really good in breaking down fights but he kinda sucks in making predictions tho.  In case you guys didn't know he's GSP's head coach.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 19, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
This fight will be huge, I can't wait. There's also the Mayweater Macgregor superfight, and Golovkin Canelo is also coming soon. So many huge fights this summer, good year for the fighting game. I don't know who to bet for.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: herdiansyahdanang on July 19, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
This fight will be huge, I can't wait. There's also the Mayweater Macgregor superfight, and Golovkin Canelo is also coming soon. So many huge fights this summer, good year for the fighting game. I don't know who to bet for.

comeon Macgregor he is still better for all in my balance <3
im sure this summer so much fun on the ring yayy


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: masterwakokok7 on July 20, 2017, 02:13:43 AM
I hope that this fight push through. To see who is better, though I'm eyeing DC in this one. Jones, I think is way off his prime and due to his drugs addiction I guess. It will took time for him to recover from that, Even though he doesn't want to accept it.

This fight will be huge, I can't wait. There's also the Mayweater Macgregor superfight, and Golovkin Canelo is also coming soon. So many huge fights this summer, good year for the fighting game. I don't know who to bet for.

Mayweather and McGregor fight is also one of the most interesting fight this year. I hope that McGregor won this fight even though it is the playground of Floyd. I guess punching power and accuracy will be McGregor's key in this fight and I hope he don't lose air all through out the match.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 20, 2017, 05:08:51 AM
This fight will be huge, I can't wait. There's also the Mayweater Macgregor superfight, and Golovkin Canelo is also coming soon. So many huge fights this summer, good year for the fighting game. I don't know who to bet for.

Don't think Canelo vs Golovkin will get some good numbers in tickets sales and PPV considering it's happening a little over three weeks after May vs Mac.  A better strategy would either be negotiate Canelo vs Golovkin to be an under card for May vs Mac (which is impossible, but would have been great), or move the fight for another month or two.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 20, 2017, 03:41:55 PM
This fight will be huge, I can't wait. There's also the Mayweater Macgregor superfight, and Golovkin Canelo is also coming soon. So many huge fights this summer, good year for the fighting game. I don't know who to bet for.

Don't think Canelo vs Golovkin will get some good numbers in tickets sales and PPV considering it's happening a little over three weeks after May vs Mac.  A better strategy would either be negotiate Canelo vs Golovkin to be an under card for May vs Mac (which is impossible, but would have been great), or move the fight for another month or two.

I don't think Canelo and Golovkin would have agreed to be anywhere but main card of the night, specially for a fight such as Mayweather vs an UFC guy... the fight will be great but for pure boxing fans is a bit of a joke.

Boxing fans want to see Canelo and Golovkin as main card in their own night so I think the date is set correctly. Real boxing fans would have bought this fight wit our without MayMac fight happening.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: BigBoy89 on July 20, 2017, 03:55:36 PM
Golovkin will crush Canelo for sure as he's the better and stronger man.

But I expected something more inserting for a gala as Canelo vs Golovkin is not ppv-selling match.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jamyr on July 20, 2017, 04:00:18 PM
BJJ Scout released a good breakdown of Jones Vs Cormier clinch & hand fighting in the first fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq96XmBWSn4

All of BJJ Scout's videos are A+ imo.

Probably the best at breaking down wrestling/grappling. The best that releases videos and shares everything they know publicly anyway.

Thanks for the link. I may get to see what were the factors that decided their first match.

Anyways, I see Jones really determined to win this match.  Hope he won't get too cocky this time and just talk when his done beating DC.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 20, 2017, 06:59:22 PM
Yup.  Coach Zahabi is really good in breaking down fights but he kinda sucks in making predictions tho.  In case you guys didn't know he's GSP's head coach.

AFAIK, BJJ Scout is Keenan Cornelius. Keenan is known for making technical clips on youtube breaking down grappling and wrestling. He's the biggest suspect as to the identity of BJJ Scout anyway.

Firas Zahabi has his own youtube channel where he breaks things down & makes predictions. His style seems different from BJJ Scout's in terms of the perspective they have and their approach.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 21, 2017, 02:48:02 PM
Golovkin will crush Canelo for sure as he's the better and stronger man.

But I expected something more inserting for a gala as Canelo vs Golovkin is not ppv-selling match.

I think people are underrated Canelo. Canelo only lost to Mayweather, but then again, everyone loses to Mayweather.

He has now improved a lot, he has the experience, I think he can make it really difficult for Golovkin to get the job done, it will be a war, the best boxing match of the year for sure, probably better than AJ-Klitschko.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on July 21, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
Golovkin will crush Canelo for sure as he's the better and stronger man.

But I expected something more inserting for a gala as Canelo vs Golovkin is not ppv-selling match.

I think people are underrated Canelo. Canelo only lost to Mayweather, but then again, everyone loses to Mayweather.

He has now improved a lot, he has the experience, I think he can make it really difficult for Golovkin to get the job done, it will be a war, the best boxing match of the year for sure, probably better than AJ-Klitschko.

I'm also looking forward to the fight as well. It will definitely a war. This will be far the biggest challenge since he fought Floyd. However, I picking GGG to win this fight. This will be a long and hard battle and will be bloody for both of the warriors. Sure Canelo can punch but GGG has more power. I'm thinking a close decision in favor of GGG, I would surprise if Canelo got KO though. PPV numbers would be great as well, because hard core and even casual fans will be watching after the Floyd vs McGregor fight and the buzz will be still in boxing. Who says that boxing is dead?


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 21, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
Golovkin will crush Canelo for sure as he's the better and stronger man.

But I expected something more inserting for a gala as Canelo vs Golovkin is not ppv-selling match.

I think people are underrated Canelo. Canelo only lost to Mayweather, but then again, everyone loses to Mayweather.

He has now improved a lot, he has the experience, I think he can make it really difficult for Golovkin to get the job done, it will be a war, the best boxing match of the year for sure, probably better than AJ-Klitschko.

I'm also looking forward to the fight as well. It will definitely a war. This will be far the biggest challenge since he fought Floyd. However, I picking GGG to win this fight. This will be a long and hard battle and will be bloody for both of the warriors. Sure Canelo can punch but GGG has more power. I'm thinking a close decision in favor of GGG, I would surprise if Canelo got KO though. PPV numbers would be great as well, because hard core and even casual fans will be watching after the Floyd vs McGregor fight and the buzz will be still in boxing. Who says that boxing is dead?

Haters always say that boxing is dead, specially MMA fans that want to take over the fighting game, but that will never happen, boxing is here to stay, lots of good fights coming.

GGG vs Canelo is a very difficult fight to predict. Power is not everything, skill beats power in boxing, but few have the skill of Floyd to win the powerpunchers, maybe Canelo doesn't have the skill to outbox someone as good as triple G.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on July 21, 2017, 03:32:13 PM
Golovkin will crush Canelo for sure as he's the better and stronger man.

But I expected something more inserting for a gala as Canelo vs Golovkin is not ppv-selling match.

I think people are underrated Canelo. Canelo only lost to Mayweather, but then again, everyone loses to Mayweather.

He has now improved a lot, he has the experience, I think he can make it really difficult for Golovkin to get the job done, it will be a war, the best boxing match of the year for sure, probably better than AJ-Klitschko.

I'm also looking forward to the fight as well. It will definitely a war. This will be far the biggest challenge since he fought Floyd. However, I picking GGG to win this fight. This will be a long and hard battle and will be bloody for both of the warriors. Sure Canelo can punch but GGG has more power. I'm thinking a close decision in favor of GGG, I would surprise if Canelo got KO though. PPV numbers would be great as well, because hard core and even casual fans will be watching after the Floyd vs McGregor fight and the buzz will be still in boxing. Who says that boxing is dead?

Haters always say that boxing is dead, specially MMA fans that want to take over the fighting game, but that will never happen, boxing is here to stay, lots of good fights coming.

GGG vs Canelo is a very difficult fight to predict. Power is not everything, skill beats power in boxing, but few have the skill of Floyd to win the powerpunchers, maybe Canelo doesn't have the skill to outbox someone as good as triple G.

Canelo will be at the defensive end. GGG will be the one taking the offensive here and I don't know how Canelo can outbox GGG specially in the later round. GGG has a solid chin as well as shown in his previous fight specially in his fight Kell Brook. Some would argue that Brook moved up two weight divisions to challenge Golovkin. Yes, its gonna be a difficult fight to predict, and it should be a close fight. I see something like Golovkin controlling the early action with his jab, Alvarez winning some of the middle rounds with his combination punching, and Golovkin taking advantage of his elite endurance to claim the championship rounds.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on July 21, 2017, 09:20:27 PM
Haters always say that boxing is dead, specially MMA fans that want to take over the fighting game, but that will never happen, boxing is here to stay, lots of good fights coming.

GGG vs Canelo is a very difficult fight to predict. Power is not everything, skill beats power in boxing, but few have the skill of Floyd to win the powerpunchers, maybe Canelo doesn't have the skill to outbox someone as good as triple G.
I am a fight fan ,tell me one fight other than GGG and Canelo that was made at the right time in boxing in recent history,can you name one fight,big time egos are ruling the boxing world and they are destroying boxing and that is the fact, GGG is a beast without a doubt and this is a fight that i am really looking forward. Lot of interesting fights coming up and it is good for fight fans.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 21, 2017, 09:57:20 PM
Haters always say that boxing is dead, specially MMA fans that want to take over the fighting game, but that will never happen, boxing is here to stay, lots of good fights coming.

GGG vs Canelo is a very difficult fight to predict. Power is not everything, skill beats power in boxing, but few have the skill of Floyd to win the powerpunchers, maybe Canelo doesn't have the skill to outbox someone as good as triple G.
I am a fight fan ,tell me one fight other than GGG and Canelo that was made at the right time in boxing in recent history,can you name one fight,big time egos are ruling the boxing world and they are destroying boxing and that is the fact, GGG is a beast without a doubt and this is a fight that i am really looking forward. Lot of interesting fights coming up and it is good for fight fans.


Well Anthony Joshua vs Klitschko was a nicely timed fight. Sure Klitschko is older, but it doesn't matter, it was the time to happen, the king vs the apprentice sort of fight. The rematch will be great too, Klitschko has good chances to take the belt back.

Klitschko vs Tyson Fury was also a fight fans wanted to see, even if it was not what we expected.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 21, 2017, 10:17:33 PM
I think Tyson Fury got into Klitschko's head with the talk leading up to the fight. That made Klitschko hesitant and paralyzed him.

Still need to watch more of GGG and Saul Alvarez's fights to get a better indication of how good they are. I kind of get the feeling both guys are overrated and only look good due to boxing's talent being thin these days.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Malsetid on July 22, 2017, 05:48:24 AM
I think Tyson Fury got into Klitschko's head with the talk leading up to the fight. That made Klitschko hesitant and paralyzed him.

Still need to watch more of GGG and Saul Alvarez's fights to get a better indication of how good they are. I kind of get the feeling both guys are overrated and only look good due to boxing's talent being thin these days.

I agree with you there dude except for ggg being overrated. Boxing nowadays are being marred by controversy after controversy which really takes away the attention and interest of people from it and shifting more to a more realistic mma. But i think golovkin is legitimate and is one of the few guys that people would still want to watch. We don't have that much fighters that can draw attention for boxing now.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Meraki on July 22, 2017, 06:13:46 AM
This coming fight is huge. Cormier and Jones are both powerful in the UFC MMA. Both of them have an outstanding records. But in this fight ill go for Jones because he is a beast. His reach is a key advantage in the match. He also know a many variety of moveset he is damn flexible thats why im rooting for jones' win


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 25, 2017, 12:47:14 AM
About Demian Maia versus Tyrone Woodley, does anyone think Demian has a chance here? After 2 not really that good title defenses I reckon this 3rd one will be the one that will finally make him lose.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 25, 2017, 06:06:18 AM
Hey guys, just dropping by to post some videos.  I hope you already have your bets locked and loaded before watching these as they could change your decisions for the worst.  Enjoy!

UFC 214 Countdown: Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZllLxqXp7aw

UFC 214 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsA0gWIELrc

UFC 214: Inside The Octagon - Cormier vs Jones 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMlkqFchKXg


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 25, 2017, 09:10:54 PM
Hey guys, just dropping by to post some videos.  I hope you already have your bets locked and loaded before watching these as they could change your decisions for the worst.  Enjoy!
I am locking my huge bet on Jon Jones and Cyborg parlay as these are my favorite fighters and i do not think anyone could challenge them in near future,Jones is stronger and bigger now ,lets see whether Cormier can do anything different, i see this as a battle of clinches and elbows .The sad thing is there is not a worthy contender for Cyborg as she is the best in the world and no one comes close to her.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 26, 2017, 05:25:58 AM
^ Yeah, those two seems like two sure wins imo.  Might as well do a parlay.

Anyway here are more videos as we come near the event this weekend.  I'm also waiting for krach's breakdown video from Degenbet.  Can't wait!

UFC 214: Inside the Octagon - Woodley vs Maia, Cyborg vs Evinger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgaw0a5MEmk

UFC 214 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au9HzCadrHU


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: matchi2011 on July 26, 2017, 05:56:03 AM
Hey guys, just dropping by to post some videos.  I hope you already have your bets locked and loaded before watching these as they could change your decisions for the worst.  Enjoy!
I am locking my huge bet on Jon Jones and Cyborg parlay as these are my favorite fighters and i do not think anyone could challenge them in near future,Jones is stronger and bigger now ,lets see whether Cormier can do anything different, i see this as a battle of clinches and elbows .The sad thing is there is not a worthy contender for Cyborg as she is the best in the world and no one comes close to her.

I saw how bones is now and really he's pretty scary to go against. Seems he's been preparing for this comeback and we probably would see him reclaiming the title from cormier though i'm looking at a very close fight here. If only cyborg entered the ufc during ronda's heydays, right now i would have to agree, cyborg is the best out there in the women's division.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 26, 2017, 09:09:22 PM
Hope all 3 title fights on this card go better than Amanda Nunes vs Valentina Shevchenko did.

DC vs Jones and Woodley vs Maia are difficult fights to break down analytically. Its tough to guess how the wrestling/grappling portion of those fights will proceed. Jones doesn't look as confident as he normally does going into fights. Maybe its because his mother recently passed away due to diabetes? DC looks slimmer. He's leaner to make his weight cut easier. I don't think anyone's giving Tonya Evinger a chance against Cyborg.

Someone said the UFC is doing Alvarez vs Gaethje season of ultimate fighter to feed Alvarez to Gaethje because they like Gaethje's exciting fight style and want to promote him. Don't know if that's true but it is an interesting analysis.



Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Adelajda on July 26, 2017, 10:50:06 PM
If only cyborg entered the ufc during ronda's heydays, right now i would have to agree, cyborg is the best out there in the women's division.
Do you know the real reason why UFC did not want to entertain Cyborg when Ronda Rousy was ruling the woman's division,they clearly knew that Cyborg could steal the show and even though Cyborg was having a contact with UFC she was fighting for Invicta.No one dares to face her and if Rousy showed some guts she would have knocked out Rousy just like that. :P


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 27, 2017, 07:05:42 AM
You know what would be interesting?  If Cormier wins this fight.  If he does, we would see a third fight in the making, right?  I can't bet against Jones, but I'm rooting for Cormier to win for the entertainment value in LHW.

If Jones wins this one what now?


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on July 27, 2017, 05:59:19 PM
You know what would be interesting?  If Cormier wins this fight.  If he does, we would see a third fight in the making, right?  I can't bet against Jones, but I'm rooting for Cormier to win for the entertainment value in LHW.
If Jones wins this one what now?
Have you heard what Jones Jones said,after defeating Daniel Cormier he is interested in facing Brock Lesnar  :o and he is serious about it,it all started with a fan question whether he is interested in facing Brock and he said yes and Brock responded to that in twitter and now he is really considering that fight to happen and if that happens it would be epic.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: BetAdviser on July 27, 2017, 06:09:07 PM
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Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: LuanX3 on July 27, 2017, 06:15:44 PM
You know what would be interesting?  If Cormier wins this fight.  If he does, we would see a third fight in the making, right?  I can't bet against Jones, but I'm rooting for Cormier to win for the entertainment value in LHW.
If Jones wins this one what now?
Have you heard what Jones Jones said,after defeating Daniel Cormier he is interested in facing Brock Lesnar  :o and he is serious about it,it all started with a fan question whether he is interested in facing Brock and he said yes and Brock responded to that in twitter and now he is really considering that fight to happen and if that happens it would be epic.

Brock is a weakling who thinks he can. Remember how he got his face busted by Cain Velasquez? He's just a clown thinking he can go against the big boys.

This is a true fight right here, Jones vs Cormier! Been waiting for this since the call out Cormier did for Jones. I'll be bettin on Cormier on this one, and being the underdog, that's even better!


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc78 on July 27, 2017, 07:10:40 PM
You know what would be interesting?  If Cormier wins this fight.  If he does, we would see a third fight in the making, right?  I can't bet against Jones, but I'm rooting for Cormier to win for the entertainment value in LHW.
If Jones wins this one what now?
Have you heard what Jones Jones said,after defeating Daniel Cormier he is interested in facing Brock Lesnar  :o and he is serious about it,it all started with a fan question whether he is interested in facing Brock and he said yes and Brock responded to that in twitter and now he is really considering that fight to happen and if that happens it would be epic.

Brock is a weakling who thinks he can. Remember how he got his face busted by Cain Velasquez? He's just a clown thinking he can go against the big boys.

This is a true fight right here, Jones vs Cormier! Been waiting for this since the call out Cormier did for Jones. I'll be bettin on Cormier on this one, and being the underdog, that's even better!

Where are you guys betting? I used to bet in Directbet.eu but I later found out that the site has also closed. Can you give me better options where to place my bets for this fight? I interested in betting for Cormier as well. No fan of Jones here. I also like to go for the underdogs.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Kemarit on July 27, 2017, 07:31:48 PM
You know what would be interesting?  If Cormier wins this fight.  If he does, we would see a third fight in the making, right?  I can't bet against Jones, but I'm rooting for Cormier to win for the entertainment value in LHW.

If Jones wins this one what now?

I'm locking on Cormier this time. Jones has only had one competitive fight since beating Cormier, and that was a less-than inspiring performance against OSP. Jones is only 30-years-old and can still make up for lost time, but his fight against OSP was bad.  Sure he got the decision victory, but he did little to prove himself to the UFC and his fans that he was truly back. I think that Cormier has more to proved than Jones this time. He underestimated Jones wresting skills in the first fight and I don't think that Cormier will make the some mistakes. And I'm looking for Cormier to take down Jones. He is not showing respect to Jones so I'm expecting a exciting war and I'm looking for Cormier to pull this one off.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 28, 2017, 03:15:42 AM
More videos to get you guys more excited for the event!  You better have already made your bets before watching these as it could affect your original pick. 

Jon Jones and Cormier are both like little kids.  Hilarious.  Enjoy!

UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones 2 Press Conference (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4JZUrgtCQ

UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Press Conference Faceoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCumQ89P78

Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier Full Interview before UFC 214 | UFC TONIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZg6OFkLRV8

UFC 214 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltoDmMHkwS8


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on July 28, 2017, 04:23:25 AM
More videos to get you guys more excited for the event!  You better have already made your bets before watching these as it could affect your original pick. 

Jon Jones and Cormier are both like little kids.  Hilarious.  Enjoy!

UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones 2 Press Conference (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4JZUrgtCQ

UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Press Conference Faceoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCumQ89P78

Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier Full Interview before UFC 214 | UFC TONIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZg6OFkLRV8

UFC 214 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltoDmMHkwS8


I'm really pump up about this fight. They literally hate each other LOL. I remember it all started with Jones be-little Cormier on a party of something. I'm still not sold on who to pick this time. I like both fighters that their is something in Jones that I hate. Anyways, I will make my decision tomorrow on who to bet to. I will just look first at the odds and see how it goes. I hope that this fight will really lived up to its hype. Otherwise, it will disappoint a lot of people. I don't want to end in a draw or something, maybe a KO would be good. LOL.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on July 28, 2017, 06:34:31 AM
my main picks

Renan Barao
Tyron Woodley
Ricardo Lamas


smaller plays

Daniel Cormier
Robbie Lawler
Volkan Oezdemir
Brian Ortega
Josh Burkman


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Harry Callahan on July 28, 2017, 10:47:44 PM
@ notserp that is a strong pick,i am still not sure whether i am going against Jon Jones as he was such a dominating champion and i am not going against him in this fight either but the rest of the picks are really good ,it is the best card this year without a doubt.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Davidic on July 29, 2017, 03:22:38 AM
Cormier for the upset


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on July 29, 2017, 04:31:31 AM
my main picks

Renan Barao
Tyron Woodley
Ricardo Lamas

smaller plays

Daniel Cormier
Robbie Lawler
Volkan Oezdemir
Brian Ortega
Josh Burkman

I really like Renan Barao though. Used to be one of my favorites but unfortunately, TJ took out his soul and he is not what he used to be. He's fighting Aljamain Sterling in a catchweight. And speaking of Aljamain Sterling, he said in an interview that he had near altercation with Floyd Mayweather Jr. LOL. Everyone is on Floyd balls now.

Quote
It was a…. we bumped heads a little bit. He tried to pick up my lady. I couldn’t have it. And at the time I was 12-0, he was undefeated as well, still undefeated. And I told his guys, I told his little minis, I said, ‘Hey, if you guys are gonna keep coming up here we’re gonna have to find out who’s the better fighter, MMA or boxing today, and we’re gonna see who’s the real undefeated champion.'”

“And I told them to tell him that, I really did, but I don’t think they ever told him. But I like Mayweather, I’m a fan of his craft, his work ethic, you can’t deny somebody’s work ethic,” Sterling said.

“And it’s unfortunate that he tried to pick up the wrong lady man. I’m sorry brother, you can’t take my lady. You can’t take my lady dawg.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TlWjR9aMc&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 29, 2017, 11:37:12 AM
Here's the video for the weigh in guys.  By this time I guess all of you degenerates have already locked your bets in.  Good luck and enjoy!

UFC 214 Embedded:  Vlog Series - Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0lUT1Bkce4

UFC 214:  Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVUX5QoQpHU


    Daniel Cormier (205) vs. Jon Jones (204.5)
    Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Demian Maia (170)
    Tonya Evinger (145) vs. Cristiane Justino (145)
    Donald Cerrone (170) vs. Robbie Lawler (170)
    Jimi Manuwa (204.5) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (205.5)
    Jason Knight (145.5) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.5)
    Renan Barao (140) vs. Aljamain Sterling (139.5)
    Renato Moicano (146) vs. Brian Ortega (146)
    Andre Fili (145) vs. Calvin Kattar (145.5)
    Alexandra Albu (115) vs. Kailin Curran (115)
    Jarred Brooks (126) vs. Eric Shelton (126)
    Josh Burkman (155.5) vs. Drew Dober (155)


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Siren on July 29, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
Here's the video for the weigh in guys.  By this time I guess all of you degenerates have already locked your bets in.  Good luck and enjoy!

UFC 214 Embedded:  Vlog Series - Episode 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0lUT1Bkce4

UFC 214:  Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVUX5QoQpHU


    Daniel Cormier (205) vs. Jon Jones (204.5)
    Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Demian Maia (170)
    Tonya Evinger (145) vs. Cristiane Justino (145)
    Donald Cerrone (170) vs. Robbie Lawler (170)
    Jimi Manuwa (204.5) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (205.5)
    Jason Knight (145.5) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.5)
    Renan Barao (140) vs. Aljamain Sterling (139.5)
    Renato Moicano (146) vs. Brian Ortega (146)
    Andre Fili (145) vs. Calvin Kattar (145.5)
    Alexandra Albu (115) vs. Kailin Curran (115)
    Jarred Brooks (126) vs. Eric Shelton (126)
    Josh Burkman (155.5) vs. Drew Dober (155)

Here's my pick for those fighters that I only know:

    Daniel Cormier (205) vs. Jon Jones (204.5) - DC
    Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Demian Maia (170) - Maia
    Tonya Evinger (145) vs. Cristiane Justino (145)
    Donald Cerrone (170) vs. Robbie Lawler (170) - Lawler
    Jimi Manuwa (204.5) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (205.5) - Manuwa
    Jason Knight (145.5) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.5) - Lamas
    Renan Barao (140) vs. Aljamain Sterling (139.5) - Barao
    Renato Moicano (146) vs. Brian Ortega (146)
    Andre Fili (145) vs. Calvin Kattar (145.5)
    Alexandra Albu (115) vs. Kailin Curran (115)
    Jarred Brooks (126) vs. Eric Shelton (126)
    Josh Burkman (155.5) vs. Drew Dober (155) - Burkman


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jamyr on July 29, 2017, 05:42:56 PM
 Here we go!   


Daniel Cormier (205) vs. Jon Jones (204.5) - Jones :p
Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Demian Maia (170) - Maia
Tonya Evinger (145) vs. Cristiane Justino (145) - N/A
Donald Cerrone (170) vs. Robbie Lawler (170) - Cowboy Cerrone
Jimi Manuwa (204.5) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (205.5) - N/A
Jason Knight (145.5) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.5) - N/A
Renan Barao (140) vs. Aljamain Sterling (139.5) - Barao
Renato Moicano (146) vs. Brian Ortega (146) - Ortega
Andre Fili (145) vs. Calvin Kattar (145.5) - N/A
Alexandra Albu (115) vs. Kailin Curran (115) - N/A
Jarred Brooks (126) vs. Eric Shelton (126) - Shelton
Josh Burkman (155.5) vs. Drew Dober (155) - Burkman


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: krach on July 29, 2017, 06:07:03 PM
https://degenbet.com/ufc-214-betting-picks/ (https://degenbet.com/ufc-214-betting-picks/)

Main picks are Aleksandra Albu and Robbie Lawler vs. Donald Cerrone under 2.5


I also like Lamas and Maia


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc78 on July 29, 2017, 07:43:43 PM
My picks:

Daniel Cormier (205) vs. Jon Jones (204.5) - Cormier
Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Demian Maia (170) - Maia
Tonya Evinger (145) vs. Cristiane Justino (145) - Justino
Donald Cerrone (170) vs. Robbie Lawler (170) -  Cerrone
Jimi Manuwa (204.5) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (205.5) - Manuwa
Jason Knight (145.5) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.5) - Lamas
Renan Barao (140) vs. Aljamain Sterling (139.5) - Barao
Renato Moicano (146) vs. Brian Ortega (146) - Ortega
Andre Fili (145) vs. Calvin Kattar (145.5) - Fili
Alexandra Albu (115) vs. Kailin Curran (115) - Albu
Jarred Brooks (126) vs. Eric Shelton (126) - Brooks
Josh Burkman (155.5) vs. Drew Dober (155) - Burkman


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Lionidas on July 29, 2017, 11:28:06 PM
Watching the fight right now.
Will need to wait until the main event starts to get any idea of what condition the fighters are in so to come up with any conclusion of who is going to win this bout of the champs. ;D


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: eaLiTy on July 30, 2017, 05:03:21 AM
Now where is the Jones doubters, he just finished Daniel Cormier as he promised  :D had a wonderful day in terms of my betting as all of my picks won the fight and i am really impressed with Volkan Oezdemir as he finished him within the first minute and now Jimi Manuwa can shut his mouth altogether as he is not championship material. :D And wow he just challenged Brock Lesnar for the fight .  :D GOAT .

I played four different parlay in this card and every one won.  :D Just posting one parlay

 http://i63.tinypic.com/2ih5ox1.jpg


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on July 30, 2017, 05:05:41 AM
my main picks

Renan Barao
Tyron Woodley
Ricardo Lamas


smaller plays

Daniel Cormier
Robbie Lawler
Volkan Oezdemir
Brian Ortega
Josh Burkman

lol im so sick i only got to bet josh then my internet went down so i missed ortega then it came back on so i could bet barrao lolol then it went down again and i missed volkan, robbie, lamas and woodly and then my internet came back for me to bet DC lmao im so fucking pissed right now what should have been a big winning card i ended up losing 4btc fuck me


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 30, 2017, 05:14:53 AM
Wups.  I'm 0 - 2 for this event.  Maybe I should stop betting on these events.  Lol.  But it's good to see Jones as the champ again.  We'll see what develops if there are no new comers in LHW as Jones already beat them all.  So it would be nice to see him do a McGregor and move up to HW.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on July 30, 2017, 05:25:44 AM
Wups.  I'm 0 - 2 for this event.  Maybe I should stop betting on these events.  Lol.  But it's good to see Jones as the champ again.  We'll see what develops if there are no new comers in LHW as Jones already beat them all.  So it would be nice to see him do a McGregor and move up to HW.

Volkan Oezdemir should be next at LHW for sure


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jamyr on July 30, 2017, 06:14:52 AM
my main picks

Renan Barao
Tyron Woodley
Ricardo Lamas


smaller plays

Daniel Cormier
Robbie Lawler
Volkan Oezdemir
Brian Ortega
Josh Burkman

lol im so sick i only got to bet josh then my internet went down so i missed ortega then it came back on so i could bet barrao lolol then it went down again and i missed volkan, robbie, lamas and woodly and then my internet came back for me to bet DC lmao im so fucking pissed right now what should have been a big winning card i ended up losing 4btc fuck me

Wtf is wrong with your connection?
That just got to be a joke right?

I would cut my ISP right away if this happens to me.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on July 30, 2017, 06:33:39 AM
my main picks

Renan Barao
Tyron Woodley
Ricardo Lamas


smaller plays

Daniel Cormier
Robbie Lawler
Volkan Oezdemir
Brian Ortega
Josh Burkman

lol im so sick i only got to bet josh then my internet went down so i missed ortega then it came back on so i could bet barrao lolol then it went down again and i missed volkan, robbie, lamas and woodly and then my internet came back for me to bet DC lmao im so fucking pissed right now what should have been a big winning card i ended up losing 4btc fuck me

Wtf is wrong with your connection?
That just got to be a joke right?

I would cut my ISP right away if this happens to me.

they were fixing the internet in my area just bad timing

even the PPV went down if anyone order off direct tv they were fucked after the 2nd fight


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Gerharde on July 30, 2017, 06:59:34 AM
UFC 214 Results:

https://steemit.com/sport/@zecexe/ufc-214-results


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 30, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
Wups.  I'm 0 - 2 for this event.  Maybe I should stop betting on these events.  Lol.  But it's good to see Jones as the champ again.  We'll see what develops if there are no new comers in LHW as Jones already beat them all.  So it would be nice to see him do a McGregor and move up to HW.

Volkan Oezdemir should be next at LHW for sure

What???  With Jon Jones, I don't think that could happen soon.  Lesnar is next, Jones wants a money fight and if that makes Jones a major draw like McGregor, then I guess he'll be going for a champ vs champ battle with Miocic..?


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: thejaytiesto on July 30, 2017, 05:13:53 PM
I just saw this yesterday live... it was sad to see Daniel Cormier devastated after the KO. It looked to me like he was winning every round. He was doing what he had to do, but Jon Jones played an intelligent game and tricked him into focusing on his hands too much, looks like he forgot Jon Jones has super long legs that can come out of any angle. He wasn't covering his right side, he leaned to the right side, and the kick was coming in this direction = game over.

Still no official statement by DC post-fight, no interviews or tweets.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: notserp on July 30, 2017, 05:38:44 PM
Wups.  I'm 0 - 2 for this event.  Maybe I should stop betting on these events.  Lol.  But it's good to see Jones as the champ again.  We'll see what develops if there are no new comers in LHW as Jones already beat them all.  So it would be nice to see him do a McGregor and move up to HW.

Volkan Oezdemir should be next at LHW for sure

What???  With Jon Jones, I don't think that could happen soon.  Lesnar is next, Jones wants a money fight and if that makes Jones a major draw like McGregor, then I guess he'll be going for a champ vs champ battle with Miocic..?

lol lesnar, i dont think jones is gonna wait over half a year to maybe fight lesnar hes not even in the USADA pool.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on July 30, 2017, 07:20:54 PM
An object moving at the same, constant, speed can become predictable to where its not moving at all.

Jones baited DC into moving forward at the same pace, so he could time him walking into that kick.

DC may have done better if he paused intermittently or changed the speed of his movement to make his position more unpredictable instead of moving forward at the same rate.



Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: TravelMug on July 30, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
I just saw this yesterday live... it was sad to see Daniel Cormier devastated after the KO. It looked to me like he was winning every round. He was doing what he had to do, but Jon Jones played an intelligent game and tricked him into focusing on his hands too much, looks like he forgot Jon Jones has super long legs that can come out of any angle. He wasn't covering his right side, he leaned to the right side, and the kick was coming in this direction = game over.

Still no official statement by DC post-fight, no interviews or tweets.

I also see him winning before the devastating kick by Jones. Truly the King is back. Brock Lesnar will be a good challenge for him. Let's see how this things work out. Jones is looking for a new challenge now and he see that Brock is a good one. I remember that he want's Cain before, but Cain has somewhat taking a vacation now.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: mobilestrike on July 30, 2017, 10:13:26 PM
Watching the fight right now.
Will need to wait until the main event starts to get any idea of what condition the fighters are in so to come up with any conclusion of who is going to win this bout of the champs. ;D
Actually if you are talking about win conditions then you are exactly wrong because both players have trained before match both are want to win the game while the game is going to be interesting so we can say that we should not predict the one who is going to win because both are fully trained and want to gain the match but let's see the winner who will swipe the game.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 30, 2017, 10:31:41 PM
I just saw this yesterday live... it was sad to see Daniel Cormier devastated after the KO. It looked to me like he was winning every round. He was doing what he had to do, but Jon Jones played an intelligent game and tricked him into focusing on his hands too much, looks like he forgot Jon Jones has super long legs that can come out of any angle. He wasn't covering his right side, he leaned to the right side, and the kick was coming in this direction = game over.
Still no official statement by DC post-fight, no interviews or tweets.
I also see him winning before the devastating kick by Jones. Truly the King is back. Brock Lesnar will be a good challenge for him. Let's see how this things work out. Jones is looking for a new challenge now and he see that Brock is a good one. I remember that he want's Cain before, but Cain has somewhat taking a vacation now.
I am not sure which fight you guys were watching,i watched it live and since everyone was giving round one for Jones and two for Cormier i watched it couple of times and i did not see Cormier winning either of the round,yes he had a better answer to the clinch game and that was it,he was eating kicks to his legs and stomach all the time ,it is a truly remarkable performance by Jones,i had my doubts when he skipped the work out routine as i thought he might be injured,but it was just a strategy on his part,the greatest of all time without a doubt.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on July 31, 2017, 12:40:07 AM
I feel sorry for Daniel Cormier. I reckon that this will be his final fight in the UFC and will retire after his contract expires. It is time for him to accept that he cannot win versus Jon.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on July 31, 2017, 06:51:38 AM
Wups.  I'm 0 - 2 for this event.  Maybe I should stop betting on these events.  Lol.  But it's good to see Jones as the champ again.  We'll see what develops if there are no new comers in LHW as Jones already beat them all.  So it would be nice to see him do a McGregor and move up to HW.

Volkan Oezdemir should be next at LHW for sure

What???  With Jon Jones, I don't think that could happen soon.  Lesnar is next, Jones wants a money fight and if that makes Jones a major draw like McGregor, then I guess he'll be going for a champ vs champ battle with Miocic..?

lol lesnar, i dont think jones is gonna wait over half a year to maybe fight lesnar hes not even in the USADA pool.

With WME-IMG running things, I think they'll be pulling some strings to make that fight happen asap.  They did give him a pass on the Lesnar vs Hunt bout.  Just shows how different things are when the Fertitta bros left.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jpouza on July 31, 2017, 10:22:45 AM
I feel sorry for Daniel Cormier. I reckon that this will be his final fight in the UFC and will retire after his contract expires. It is time for him to accept that he cannot win versus Jon.

That was certain, Jones is much more skilled than Cormier, more flexible, taller, fast and have a born talent to martial arts, unfortunatly sometimes nature favors the genetics.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on July 31, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
I feel sorry for Daniel Cormier. I reckon that this will be his final fight in the UFC and will retire after his contract expires. It is time for him to accept that he cannot win versus Jon.

Congrats to Jon Jones for a wonderful showing. He indeed proved his doubters and haters again. As for DC, it was a heart breaking lost as he was just starting to get into the groove when he was hit. I'm not really sure when is his contract with UFC expiring though. I think he need to go over the fight with Jones. He can beat everyone in the division except Jones. I'm thinking he might go to other MMA promotion company.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Siren on July 31, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
Now where is the Jones doubters, he just finished Daniel Cormier as he promised  :D had a wonderful day in terms of my betting as all of my picks won the fight and i am really impressed with Volkan Oezdemir as he finished him within the first minute and now Jimi Manuwa can shut his mouth altogether as he is not championship material. :D And wow he just challenged Brock Lesnar for the fight .  :D GOAT .

I played four different parlay in this card and every one won.  :D Just posting one parlay

 http://i63.tinypic.com/2ih5ox1.jpg

Nice one mate. I lost the Jones-DC fight. Well for one he proved his doubters including me. hahaha. But I will still be a DC fan no matter what his decisions will be. Kindly boring Woodley-Maia fight. But I think you can't may Tyron for having that kind of strategy specially he is fight Maia. And regarding Jones vs Brock. Interested to see that fight happen. No advantage for Brock except for his size, Jones will win this fight easily.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on July 31, 2017, 02:45:23 PM
Daniel Cormier has finally made an announcement after the loss. He took an entire day off from saying anything. In his instagram he congratulated Jon Jones and his team, but he doesn't say he is retiring, neither does he say he will continue.

He is 38 year old, so it may be time to retire, even tho he was looking good. I think he should move to another weight decision and get a belt there to not end your career with the bad feeling of getting KO.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: TravelMug on July 31, 2017, 07:45:52 PM
Daniel Cormier has finally made an announcement after the loss. He took an entire day off from saying anything. In his instagram he congratulated Jon Jones and his team, but he doesn't say he is retiring, neither does he say he will continue.

He is 38 year old, so it may be time to retire, even tho he was looking good. I think he should move to another weight decision and get a belt there to not end your career with the bad feeling of getting KO.

At least he is man enough to accept his defeat and congratulate Jones. Initially he campaigns at the HW division but since then Cain also in the HW, and because they are close friends and training partners for years, he went down to LHW and even became a champion (of course Jones is out during that time). I'm not really sure about retiring though maybe he needs a break or something or probably if he is thinking retiring, go back to hosting instead.  :)


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 31, 2017, 10:58:21 PM
Daniel Cormier has finally made an announcement after the loss. He took an entire day off from saying anything. In his instagram he congratulated Jon Jones and his team, but he doesn't say he is retiring, neither does he say he will continue.

He is 38 year old, so it may be time to retire, even tho he was looking good. I think he should move to another weight decision and get a belt there to not end your career with the bad feeling of getting KO.
With the kind of speech Jon Jones delivered after the win and his actions,there is nothing more Daniel Cormier could say rather than moving with the flow and accepting the fate,it was one of the best performance i have seen this year and this is the first knock out loss for DC and interestingly the first knock out win for Jone Jones in his UFC career. :D I wanted to see Alexander Gustafsson next and i am sure Jones will stop him too as he is a different animal now.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: michaelch on August 01, 2017, 02:41:57 AM
And regarding Jones vs Brock. Interested to see that fight happen. No advantage for Brock except for his size, Jones will win this fight easily.

I suspect he is trying to lay the groundwork for something like Conor vs Mayweather. Looking for more high-profile and profitable fights.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: btc78 on August 02, 2017, 01:17:42 PM
Now where is the Jones doubters, he just finished Daniel Cormier as he promised  :D had a wonderful day in terms of my betting as all of my picks won the fight and i am really impressed with Volkan Oezdemir as he finished him within the first minute and now Jimi Manuwa can shut his mouth altogether as he is not championship material. :D And wow he just challenged Brock Lesnar for the fight .  :D GOAT .

I played four different parlay in this card and every one won.  :D Just posting one parlay

 http://i63.tinypic.com/2ih5ox1.jpg

I give props for Jones for knocking out Daniel Cormier. He reclaimed the Light Heavy weight belt fo now. The win for Jones marks a long, winding path back to champion status. It's been more than two years since he's been the undisputed light heavyweight champion. Still congrats to the man. You proven me wrong.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Kemarit on August 02, 2017, 01:39:38 PM
And regarding Jones vs Brock. Interested to see that fight happen. No advantage for Brock except for his size, Jones will win this fight easily.

I suspect he is trying to lay the groundwork for something like Conor vs Mayweather. Looking for more high-profile and profitable fights.

He could probably looking for money fights right now similar as what Conor did. Ronda Rousey is already out, GSP status is not sure, so I think Jon Jones is the only legitimate star of UFC. It also appears the new champion might do his best to bring back one of the sport's biggest stars - Brock Lesnar. Regardless of whether Brock Lesnar would really leave the WWE to fight Jones, who has always teased a foray into the heavyweight division, the mere fact that it's a discussion is a sign of the impact Jones' return could make.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on August 02, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
No way Jon Jones is going to fight Brock Lesnar anytime soon. He has 6 more months of USADA supervention, then he has another 6 months at least of training camp. That's 1+ year away. Jon Jones will have to fight someone else before the Jones-Lesnar clash happens. He senses the money, he knows that is a massive deal and he wants to pull a Mayweather-McGregor, but he cannot stay inactive for 1+ year waiting for that.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: jpouza on August 03, 2017, 12:17:01 AM
No way Jon Jones is going to fight Brock Lesnar anytime soon. He has 6 more months of USADA supervention, then he has another 6 months at least of training camp. That's 1+ year away. Jon Jones will have to fight someone else before the Jones-Lesnar clash happens. He senses the money, he knows that is a massive deal and he wants to pull a Mayweather-McGregor, but he cannot stay inactive for 1+ year waiting for that.

And if he fights against Brock, he would win with not much effort, Brock's size will be no match for his talent as a fighter.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on August 03, 2017, 03:20:39 AM
No way Jon Jones is going to fight Brock Lesnar anytime soon. He has 6 more months of USADA supervention, then he has another 6 months at least of training camp. That's 1+ year away. Jon Jones will have to fight someone else before the Jones-Lesnar clash happens. He senses the money, he knows that is a massive deal and he wants to pull a Mayweather-McGregor, but he cannot stay inactive for 1+ year waiting for that.

Typical MMA fight camp is 3 months / 12 weeks.

USADA gave Brock Lesnar an exemption on entering the USADA testing pool the last time he fought Mark Hunt. If Jon Jones didn't care about Brock being tested and Brock was given another waiver they could fight soon.

Brock Lesnar said he'll only consider doing MMA & fighting Jon Jones if he doesn't have the WWE belt after their next big event. That could be the key point determining whether or not they fight.



Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on August 03, 2017, 04:17:22 AM
Typical MMA fight camp is 3 months / 12 weeks.

USADA gave Brock Lesnar an exemption on entering the USADA testing pool the last time he fought Mark Hunt. If Jon Jones didn't care about Brock being tested and Brock was given another waiver they could fight soon.

Brock Lesnar said he'll only consider doing MMA & fighting Jon Jones if he doesn't have the WWE belt after their next big event. That could be the key point determining whether or not they fight.
I do understand everything about the camp and so on,but what about this WWE thing,since it is a scripted story they could put the belt back to Brock Lesnar and does that mean that he will be chicken out from this fight against Jones Jones  ;D That is the only scenario i am seeing right now,Brock is getting old and he could not match up with Jones skill wise but he defeated Mark Hunt after 5 years of absence .


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on August 04, 2017, 04:53:52 AM
I do understand everything about the camp and so on,but what about this WWE thing,since it is a scripted story they could put the belt back to Brock Lesnar and does that mean that he will be chicken out from this fight against Jones Jones  ;D That is the only scenario i am seeing right now,Brock is getting old and he could not match up with Jones skill wise but he defeated Mark Hunt after 5 years of absence .

I don't know how far in advance WWE determines its script.  

I would guess the script was not determined at the time Brock Lesnar made those comments.

Jon Jones is known for doing well in sparring with heavyweights at JacksonWink(Greg Jackson / Mike Wineljon's MMA gym).

Only heavyweights I can think of that train there were Travis Browne, Andrei Arlovski and Anthony Hamilton. Those are good heavyweights but none of them bring the wrestling or athleticism that Brock has.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: gabmen on August 04, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
I do understand everything about the camp and so on,but what about this WWE thing,since it is a scripted story they could put the belt back to Brock Lesnar and does that mean that he will be chicken out from this fight against Jones Jones  ;D That is the only scenario i am seeing right now,Brock is getting old and he could not match up with Jones skill wise but he defeated Mark Hunt after 5 years of absence .

I don't know how far in advance WWE determines its script.  

I would guess the script was not determined at the time Brock Lesnar made those comments.

Jon Jones is known for doing well in sparring with heavyweights at JacksonWink(Greg Jackson / Mike Wineljon's MMA gym).

Only heavyweights I can think of that train there were Travis Browne, Andrei Arlovski and Anthony Hamilton. Those are good heavyweights but none of them bring the wrestling or athleticism that Brock has.

Jones may have the skills that would make him nbr1 pound for pound but i'm not really that confident if a fight with brock pushes through. If it's a slow bloke of a heavyweight he's going to be fighting, then i'd say jones will make it. But broke has shown he can move unbelievably swift for his size and pretty agile as well. Though i'd watch that fight definitely.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on August 04, 2017, 10:33:34 PM
I do understand everything about the camp and so on,but what about this WWE thing,since it is a scripted story they could put the belt back to Brock Lesnar and does that mean that he will be chicken out from this fight against Jones Jones  ;D That is the only scenario i am seeing right now,Brock is getting old and he could not match up with Jones skill wise but he defeated Mark Hunt after 5 years of absence .

I don't know how far in advance WWE determines its script.  

I would guess the script was not determined at the time Brock Lesnar made those comments.

Jon Jones is known for doing well in sparring with heavyweights at JacksonWink(Greg Jackson / Mike Wineljon's MMA gym).

Only heavyweights I can think of that train there were Travis Browne, Andrei Arlovski and Anthony Hamilton. Those are good heavyweights but none of them bring the wrestling or athleticism that Brock has.

Jones may have the skills that would make him nbr1 pound for pound but i'm not really that confident if a fight with brock pushes through. If it's a slow bloke of a heavyweight he's going to be fighting, then i'd say jones will make it. But broke has shown he can move unbelievably swift for his size and pretty agile as well. Though i'd watch that fight definitely.

The main selling point is seeing Jon Jones perform as a heavyweight. We don't know how much the extra weight will have an impact on his skill. We all know that he is the most skilled MMA guy ever buy we have yet to see him fight at HW.

Brock Lesnar is huge and is really strong but he lacks the skills to be a top MMA competitor.

Jon Jones needs the fight more than Brock. Pretty sure Brock is way richer than Jones. Being a WWE star means you are rich as hell.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: joshy23 on August 05, 2017, 03:58:29 AM
I do understand everything about the camp and so on,but what about this WWE thing,since it is a scripted story they could put the belt back to Brock Lesnar and does that mean that he will be chicken out from this fight against Jones Jones  ;D That is the only scenario i am seeing right now,Brock is getting old and he could not match up with Jones skill wise but he defeated Mark Hunt after 5 years of absence .

I don't know how far in advance WWE determines its script.  

I would guess the script was not determined at the time Brock Lesnar made those comments.

Jon Jones is known for doing well in sparring with heavyweights at JacksonWink(Greg Jackson / Mike Wineljon's MMA gym).

Only heavyweights I can think of that train there were Travis Browne, Andrei Arlovski and Anthony Hamilton. Those are good heavyweights but none of them bring the wrestling or athleticism that Brock has.

Jones may have the skills that would make him nbr1 pound for pound but i'm not really that confident if a fight with brock pushes through. If it's a slow bloke of a heavyweight he's going to be fighting, then i'd say jones will make it. But broke has shown he can move unbelievably swift for his size and pretty agile as well. Though i'd watch that fight definitely.

The main selling point is seeing Jon Jones perform as a heavyweight. We don't know how much the extra weight will have an impact on his skill. We all know that he is the most skilled MMA guy ever buy we have yet to see him fight at HW.

Brock Lesnar is huge and is really strong but he lacks the skills to be a top MMA competitor.

Jon Jones needs the fight more than Brock. Pretty sure Brock is way richer than Jones. Being a WWE star means you are rich as hell.

Do Jones goes to HW limit when he is on offseason? I think he is still cool at 206 -220 lbs? I think it will not make any difference with regards to speed and skills IMHO.
Brock Lesnar is huge no question about it but Jones will be the more agile of the two. We haven't seen Jones hit directly at LHW to gauge how strong is he's jaw. Although he was hit with accumulation of punches by Gus before. That makes this fight interesting for me. And will probably fight if the right money is on the table for both sides to start talking.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on August 05, 2017, 03:20:12 PM
I do understand everything about the camp and so on,but what about this WWE thing,since it is a scripted story they could put the belt back to Brock Lesnar and does that mean that he will be chicken out from this fight against Jones Jones  ;D That is the only scenario i am seeing right now,Brock is getting old and he could not match up with Jones skill wise but he defeated Mark Hunt after 5 years of absence .

I don't know how far in advance WWE determines its script.  

I would guess the script was not determined at the time Brock Lesnar made those comments.

Jon Jones is known for doing well in sparring with heavyweights at JacksonWink(Greg Jackson / Mike Wineljon's MMA gym).

Only heavyweights I can think of that train there were Travis Browne, Andrei Arlovski and Anthony Hamilton. Those are good heavyweights but none of them bring the wrestling or athleticism that Brock has.

Jones may have the skills that would make him nbr1 pound for pound but i'm not really that confident if a fight with brock pushes through. If it's a slow bloke of a heavyweight he's going to be fighting, then i'd say jones will make it. But broke has shown he can move unbelievably swift for his size and pretty agile as well. Though i'd watch that fight definitely.

The main selling point is seeing Jon Jones perform as a heavyweight. We don't know how much the extra weight will have an impact on his skill. We all know that he is the most skilled MMA guy ever buy we have yet to see him fight at HW.

Brock Lesnar is huge and is really strong but he lacks the skills to be a top MMA competitor.

Jon Jones needs the fight more than Brock. Pretty sure Brock is way richer than Jones. Being a WWE star means you are rich as hell.

Do Jones goes to HW limit when he is on offseason? I think he is still cool at 206 -220 lbs? I think it will not make any difference with regards to speed and skills IMHO.
Brock Lesnar is huge no question about it but Jones will be the more agile of the two. We haven't seen Jones hit directly at LHW to gauge how strong is he's jaw. Although he was hit with accumulation of punches by Gus before. That makes this fight interesting for me. And will probably fight if the right money is on the table for both sides to start talking.

Jon Bones Jones has Bones as his nickname for a reason. He is a natural lanky ectomorph, he is an skinny guy with a fast metabolism. It's only recently that we have seen him get some weight in, to the point some people accused him of steroids.

He said that he couldn't become a football player due weight problems, so he went into wrestling and then into MMA.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on August 23, 2017, 06:30:29 AM
Sorry Jon Jones fans but your guy cheated once again.  I honestly did not expect this and I thought he looked good in his second bout vs Cormier, but no.  He failed the drug test.  He hasn't been stripped off the title yet, but he might be.

He's the Lance Armstrong of MMA, basically.  ;D

UFC STATEMENT ON JON JONES
http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-Statement-On-Jon-Jones-08-22-17


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on August 23, 2017, 05:08:19 PM
Sorry Jon Jones fans but your guy cheated once again.  I honestly did not expect this and I thought he looked good in his second bout vs Cormier, but no.  He failed the drug test.  He hasn't been stripped off the title yet, but he might be.

He's the Lance Armstrong of MMA, basically.  ;D

UFC STATEMENT ON JON JONES
http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-Statement-On-Jon-Jones-08-22-17

I was just looking at this right now... what the hell man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeqnoYs4LIM

Jon Jones talen it indisputable, but at this point, how much % is drugs, and how much % is himself in the wins?

Maybe Daniel Cormier predicted future in his latest post-fight interview, and they will meet for a third time? But I think Dana White is going to be too pissed off to ever let him again... but money is money.

A third rematch between Daniel Cormier and Jon Jones would be another success no matter what.

Im sure DC is feeling good now, because Jones victory is not 100% clear. But it's unfortunate that the rematch may not happen due USADA suspending him for 4 years.

But let's wait, maybe Jones gets lucky and USADA reveals something in favor of Jon Jones, but it's not looking good.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on August 23, 2017, 08:31:25 PM
Really disappointed with the current development with Jon Jones,to be frank i was checking about Jon Jones on a daily basis to see whether he was in any other trouble and this news just shocked me once again,when will he study ,i think this will be the end of his career in MMA ,i am waiting to hear the full report from USADA ,JDS is also caught ,if Jones is following up with all the medication then he should be fine,will see what his career will be.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on August 23, 2017, 08:43:47 PM
One of Jon Jones training partners posted this on facebook. This seems to indicate Jones is innocent if he tested positive very close to the fight where steroids wouldn't give a person an advantage.

https://i.imgur.com/quIBEKO.jpg

California isn't the most reliable state. New York and cali are the two most corrupt states in the USA. Their athletic commission could be at fault here.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 24, 2017, 01:25:12 AM
But why would Jon take the oral steroids? To what purpose was it for? If he is proven guilty and that he is removed from being the UFC's light heavyweight champion, then maybe we should organize a shame walk for him like in the Game of Thones. hehehe

https://media.tenor.com/images/a38fc9462ac488a533f8bd0a88926789/tenor.gif


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: roomfirst on August 24, 2017, 02:57:42 AM
One of Jon Jones training partners posted this on facebook. This seems to indicate Jones is innocent if he tested positive very close to the fight where steroids wouldn't give a person an advantage.

https://i.imgur.com/quIBEKO.jpg

California isn't the most reliable state. New York and cali are the two most corrupt states in the USA. Their athletic commission could be at fault here.

Oh well, a different story from both sides. It's better for UFC and Jon Jones meet and solve this problem together. It's really unfortunate though,  classic Jon Jones failed UFC 214 drug test again. How about the tittle for Jon jones ? It's really fucked up, drug test failed after the cards already done.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on August 24, 2017, 05:14:58 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he was still on cocaine.  From Jon Jones' point of view it's better to be caught using PED's than using drugs. 

I also think Jones' career is close to going RIP after this.  What a waste.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 24, 2017, 10:35:02 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he was still on cocaine.  From Jon Jones' point of view it's better to be caught using PED's than using drugs. 

I also think Jones' career is close to going RIP after this.  What a waste.
I read somewhere that if after serving 1 year ban in UFC and caught using illegal substance again that will result to not 1 year ban but 4 years. if that is correct that Jon Jones can bid goodbye to UFC or MMA. He is not getting young, after 4 years he may not be the same anymore. As for DC, he accepted his loss graciously but after this issue, he might sue Jon Jones. 


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on August 24, 2017, 11:32:17 PM
But why would Jon take the oral steroids? To what purpose was it for? If he is proven guilty and that he is removed from being the UFC's light heavyweight champion, then maybe we should organize a shame walk for him like in the Game of Thones. hehehe

https://media.tenor.com/images/a38fc9462ac488a533f8bd0a88926789/tenor.gif

Well the whole story is very strange. If he did it, then why, and if he didn't then who would put an oral steroid in his food or whatever? or was it in a drink? it's very strange... who would risk getting caught by putting drugs in a top elite athlete? This is all weird. I think both parties are lying. We will find out soon what happened.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 25, 2017, 02:13:02 AM
@pereira4. Then maybe he was really taking steroids during training and he thought that he would get away with it. Who would take a steroid pill orally if it has to take weeks before he gets the effects?


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Schuyler on August 25, 2017, 07:34:07 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he was still on cocaine.  From Jon Jones' point of view it's better to be caught using PED's than using drugs. 

I also think Jones' career is close to going RIP after this.  What a waste.
I read somewhere that if after serving 1 year ban in UFC and caught using illegal substance again that will result to not 1 year ban but 4 years. if that is correct that Jon Jones can bid goodbye to UFC or MMA. He is not getting young, after 4 years he may not be the same anymore. As for DC, he accepted his loss graciously but after this issue, he might sue Jon Jones. 
Bones just can't get his act together. His natural ability to toy around with other opponents would be overshadowed by his continuous off-cage behavior. And at 30 years of age, he might have just thrown away the last opportunity to redeem himself. The UFC is starting to get boring with all these non-sense coming their way.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on August 25, 2017, 12:11:30 PM
@pereira4. Then maybe he was really taking steroids during training and he thought that he would get away with it. Who would take a steroid pill orally if it has to take weeks before he gets the effects?



Well if he knows about how steroids work, he wouldn't take it near fight time, but we don't know exactly what dose what found and we don't know exactly about the substance, was it an anabolic steroid or a PED or what?

I always knew Bones was roiding to get that physique. The guy has a super fast metabolism, he looked pretty jacked lately while still having a low BF. This is just not possible with that type of tall, lanky, fast metabolism bodytype..

We are looking at a 6'4'' guy, not some 5'9'' guy that even if he is skinny, can look bulky due the shorter muscles with natural training.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on September 14, 2017, 06:36:10 AM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Baofeng on September 14, 2017, 07:36:05 AM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.

What the....

I'm so disappointed with Jones. He just wasted his fucking career. I guess Cormier is right portraying what's the real personality of Jones specially in their first fight. You will hear Jones talking shit about Cormier and he thought that the microphone is offline. I still remember Cormier saying that Jones trying to sell himself as the good guy but outside he is so arrogant and boastful. Glad to see Cormier being he LHW champ and for exposing how fraudster Jones was from the very beginning.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: peter0425 on September 14, 2017, 08:10:56 AM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.

What the....

I'm so disappointed with Jones. He just wasted his fucking career. I guess Cormier is right portraying what's the real personality of Jones specially in their first fight. You will hear Jones talking shit about Cormier and he thought that the microphone is offline. I still remember Cormier saying that Jones trying to sell himself as the good guy but outside he is so arrogant and boastful. Glad to see Cormier being he LHW champ and for exposing how fraudster Jones was from the very beginning.

I don't know how can Jones get out of this situation. UFC has been very lenient with him but he took advantage of it. You can really see that something is fishy with how he bulk himself specially around his deltoids which typically scream for steroids used. At least DC was vindicated on his claims on Jones. I read that its gonna be a 4 year suspension but I'm sure he gonna appeal once again.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: TravelMug on September 14, 2017, 08:50:24 AM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.

The steroids turn out to be Turinabol which is Dbol for all those who are familiar with steroids. This is usually taken to gain mass quicker an leaner. I don't know how many times Jones already caught cheating. This is very damaging and his legacy as a MMA fighter is tainted now. I agree, he just waste his career and we don't know what will happen to him next.

As for Cormier, I'm sure he is quite surprise receiving a call from Dana saying "Hey, we are going to reinstate you as the LHW again". So moving into the HW division should have to wait for DC then. And I'm thinking that DC would love to defend that title once again.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Malsetid on September 18, 2017, 12:22:20 PM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.

The steroids turn out to be Turinabol which is Dbol for all those who are familiar with steroids. This is usually taken to gain mass quicker an leaner. I don't know how many times Jones already caught cheating. This is very damaging and his legacy as a MMA fighter is tainted now. I agree, he just waste his career and we don't know what will happen to him next.

As for Cormier, I'm sure he is quite surprise receiving a call from Dana saying "Hey, we are going to reinstate you as the LHW again". So moving into the HW division should have to wait for DC then. And I'm thinking that DC would love to defend that title once again.

Its just such a waste. Bones could've been with the likes of silva couture and lidell. Cormier's a great light heavyweight champion and i don't think they'll miss jones that much. It's just such a waste for me with jones' talent.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on September 18, 2017, 01:03:53 PM
Well guys it looks like Jones is officially stripped off his title after failing two tests for steroids.  His rematch with Cormier has been now overturned into a 'no contest'.  Cormier is reinstated as the LHW champ.

Jones you stupid little ****.  What a waste.

What the....

I'm so disappointed with Jones. He just wasted his fucking career. I guess Cormier is right portraying what's the real personality of Jones specially in their first fight. You will hear Jones talking shit about Cormier and he thought that the microphone is offline. I still remember Cormier saying that Jones trying to sell himself as the good guy but outside he is so arrogant and boastful. Glad to see Cormier being he LHW champ and for exposing how fraudster Jones was from the very beginning.

I don't know how can Jones get out of this situation. UFC has been very lenient with him but he took advantage of it. You can really see that something is fishy with how he bulk himself specially around his deltoids which typically scream for steroids used. At least DC was vindicated on his claims on Jones. I read that its gonna be a 4 year suspension but I'm sure he gonna appeal once again.

Daniel Cormier should be happy, he is still the champion. Jon Jones is a cheater, im tired of his bullshit, his career is over, he will no longer be able to recover from this. 4 years from now he will have no experience with real fights for a long time and he will lose if he fights a strong contender like Gustafsson.

Let's focus on Ferguson vs Lee coming soon this October.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Hydrogen on September 18, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
Next big event is UFC Fight Night Ovince St Preux vs Yushin Okami on september 23rd, 2017.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2q094hu.jpg

Bellator 183 Benson Henderson vs Patricky Freire is also on september 23rd.

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The UFC event is in japan. Both events might be on during different times due to time zone differences, even though they're listed as being on the same day.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on September 18, 2017, 10:41:07 PM
Next big event is UFC Fight Night Ovince St Preux vs Yushin Okami on september 23rd, 2017.

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Bellator 183 Benson Henderson vs Patricky Freire is also on september 23rd.

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The UFC event is in japan. Both events might be on during different times due to time zone differences, even though they're listed as being on the same day.


Most fight nights aren't really that exciting for a casual fan like me, I don't know what all of these people are to be honest. I only like to see the world champion contenders going at it and only gamble on the big fights. Sometimes there are good night fights but not often for a casual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_216


This is the one I can't wait to see. Im betting on a Kevin Lee win.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on September 19, 2017, 05:21:15 AM
No way Kevin Lee is gonna win vs Ferguson.  Ferguson is the best in the LW division.  Not McGregor nor Khabib has an easy chance vs him. 

I will be making the thread for 216 later.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: pereira4 on September 19, 2017, 12:42:15 PM
No way Kevin Lee is gonna win vs Ferguson.  Ferguson is the best in the LW division.  Not McGregor nor Khabib has an easy chance vs him. 

I will be making the thread for 216 later.

Im willing to give Kevin Lee a chance as the hungry young Lion looking for fame and glory. It would make his nake skyrocket and he would definitely get a shoot against McGregor for a super fight if he wins Ferguson. Of course chances are Tony Ferguson will win, but im willing to take a risk here. No big risk no big reward, and I think Kevin Lee making an upset on this one is a good bet as long as you aren't gambling crazy money, but the gains can be worth it.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: tokeweed on September 20, 2017, 07:23:15 AM
Kevin Lee isn't gonna look like a hungry lion.  Not vs Ferguson at least.  Ferguson is one of the most hard working athletes in the UFC and he's one of the most underrated.  I don't think even McGregor would win against him if they were to fight today. 


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: Kemarit on September 20, 2017, 07:51:24 AM
Kevin Lee isn't gonna look like a hungry lion.  Not vs Ferguson at least.  Ferguson is one of the most hard working athletes in the UFC and he's one of the most underrated.  I don't think even McGregor would win against him if they were to fight today. 

I agree, Ferguson is one of the most underrated fighter in the UFC. He has string of winning streak and I think his last lost is like 5 years ago. Although he has losses already, but those are early in his career. And McGregor would rather fight Nate Diaz, instead of fighting Ferguson and Khabib. He is avoiding them like a plague.

No way Kevin Lee is gonna win vs Ferguson.  Ferguson is the best in the LW division.  Not McGregor nor Khabib has an easy chance vs him. 

I will be making the thread for 216 later.

Im willing to give Kevin Lee a chance as the hungry young Lion looking for fame and glory. It would make his nake skyrocket and he would definitely get a shoot against McGregor for a super fight if he wins Ferguson. Of course chances are Tony Ferguson will win, but im willing to take a risk here. No big risk no big reward, and I think Kevin Lee making an upset on this one is a good bet as long as you aren't gambling crazy money, but the gains can be worth it.

I agree. Lee is a live dog and not to be taken lightly. But Ferguson is on a different level now and will go as the favorite in this fight. I'm sure the odds are good if we bet for Kevin but just to be sure not to bet big but an upset will be a good one for the betting public.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on September 21, 2017, 12:57:03 AM
@Kemarit. After the boxing match versus Floyd Mayweather, Conor will fight Khabib in Russia. Let us hope the negotiations with Conor's agents will be free of problems so that it can happen on December. That would be a nice christmas gift from Dana White and the UFC.


Title: Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread
Post by: lincolnmad on September 21, 2017, 04:48:35 AM
@Kemarit. After the boxing match versus Floyd Mayweather, Conor will fight Khabib in Russia. Let us hope the negotiations with Conor's agents will be free of problems so that it can happen on December. That would be a nice christmas gift from Dana White and the UFC.

wow this would be good man and also match in russia ? wow that is big.