Title: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lorak on May 11, 2017, 01:06:27 PM Half of our office had their accounts on the forum. No one used them to spam, but in two days they all got banned from a moderator. A few people wrote an appeal to the specified email, but no answer yet. Why it happened and what to do?
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: unamis76 on May 11, 2017, 01:10:22 PM Tell us more about that office and why these accounts were banned...
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lorak on May 11, 2017, 01:21:32 PM Tell us more about that office and why these accounts were banned... I do not know. We have an office and maybe a single all access to the Internet. Maybe because of this? The robot determines how one computer and blocks. Spam was not sure. Just talked yet work.Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2017, 01:26:26 PM We have an office and maybe a single all access to the Internet. Maybe because of this? No, there must be a reason for which at least 1 of the accounts got banned. We can't really help you unless you give us the list of banned accounts.Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: hilariousandco on May 11, 2017, 01:30:03 PM Was your "office" in Russia by any chance? And did your office contain 200 "workers"?
We have an office and maybe a single all access to the Internet. Maybe because of this? No, there must be a reason for which at least 1 of the accounts got banned. We can't really help you unless you give us the list of banned accounts.Yes, please list all the accounts so we can help you out. Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2017, 01:37:51 PM Yes, please list all the accounts so we can help you out. The user has sent me 1 account name privately. All I can say is: one-liner spam.Was your "office" in Russia by any chance? And did your office contain 200 "workers"? This excuse is bullshit. The account posted frequently throughout the day. Maybe their "office" was a company where every worker spams Bitcointalk. ::)Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lorak on May 11, 2017, 01:53:40 PM Spam is "bulk mailing of commercial and other advertising or similar commercial messages to individuals who did not Express a desire to receive". There was not like this. It was ordinary communication. Is this spam?
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2017, 02:01:32 PM Spam is "bulk mailing of commercial and other advertising or similar commercial messages to individuals who did not Express a desire to receive". The definition is too specific and not related to this case.There was not like this. It was ordinary communication. Is this spam? The real definition of SPAM is:Quote irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc. Which applies to your "friend" or "coworker" who was shit posting.Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: hilariousandco on May 11, 2017, 02:08:52 PM Spam is "bulk mailing of commercial and other advertising or similar commercial messages to individuals who did not Express a desire to receive". There was not like this. It was ordinary communication. Is this spam? One man's (claimed) "constructive posting" is another man's spam, but churning out mindless regurgitated posts entirely for signature payment on multiple accounts one after the other usually falls under this definition, but until you tell us what accounts were banned we can't help you. How many accounts did your "office" have banned? Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lorak on May 11, 2017, 02:10:38 PM Thanks for answering. I just never realized it could be the reason for the ban or must be some other reason. After all, the concept of spam if it is not related to is very subjective. And on the forum the bulk of the accounts have the same posts. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2017, 02:16:40 PM Thanks for answering. I just never realized it could be the reason for the ban or must be some other reason. Spam is the primary reason for getting banned and it can be rather very different when it comes to the type/source:1) Backlink spam bots. 2) Spam bots of other type ("bitcoin ponzi scam" anyone?). 3) Signature spam. 4) Activity/account farming with or without a signature. After all, the concept of spam if it is not related to is very subjective. The posts on that account are complete trash, end of discussion.Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lorak on May 11, 2017, 02:24:42 PM I have just again spoken with the owner of the account. It turns out he went to the game branch and checked in a casino. After he won his account was gone. He wrote about it in the thread for this casino. And then it all began. This can be the reason?
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2017, 02:28:53 PM I have just again spoken with the owner of the account. It turns out he went to the game branch and checked in a casino. After he won his account was gone. He wrote about it in the thread for this casino. And then it all began. This can be the reason? No. Almost all of his posts are trash (at least from what I see on the last few pages). Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: hilariousandco on May 11, 2017, 04:28:36 PM Are these your "office accounts"?
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Post by: Lauda on May 11, 2017, 04:32:10 PM Are these your "office accounts"? Have all of these been permanently banned? Just the thought of that.. is so pleasing.-snip- Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: hilariousandco on May 11, 2017, 04:41:27 PM Yep. I'm not sure why he thought regurgitating the same one or two lines of nonsense or "I agree" on 200 accounts post after post would be acceptable. This is why we can't have nice things:
Bitcoin is helping all of us to earn extra money and if teenager wants to start earning then there is nothing wrong in it as it will make them more responsible and start valuing money from very early age so I think we should show them the simple ways of earning bitcoins instead of introducing them to trading and gambling. I agree, bitcoin is the best way to make young people learn about responsibilities and how to earn their own money, doing things they already do every day, but also we need to supervise them and guide them because as we know bitcoin is used in gambling sites, and unless we don’t want them to become gamblers we need to keep an eye on them and what do they actually do with the bitcoin they earn.Those who want to make quick money will anyhow start going on gambling sites and we cannot stop them or control them and its their own money so they can do whatever they want to with their bitcoins and we should not bother about that instead we should keep ourselves engage in earning more bitcoins. yes, I agree with you. We must try to find a reliable source of income. Let it be small, but reliable. Bitcoins are simply enough to keep in order to make a profit in the future but still i am hopeful and confident that the price of bitcoin is going to increase more and more and hope that very soon the price of bitcoin will cross 2000 USD just in few months the price of bitcoin will be trading above 2000 USD level. When you post such outrageous claims, then you should accompany that with some concrete proof. Give some reason why you think that the prices will top $2,000. There should be some trigger, such as the ETF listing or government recognition. I agree with you, there must be significant reasons for the price of bitcoin to rise sharply. At least there should be no negative news. At the moment, the price of bitcoin can not go vvarh only because of the demand It will be more correct to say not the poor, but lazy people and freebie lovers. A normal person will never believe in this fraudulent scheme of earnings. Lazybirds always look for easy ways, stop halfway, are afraid of difficulties and all their lives remain poor or lose huge money that they inherited. Here business in enterprise skills and desire constantly to grow. Yes you are right. To become rich, you must constantly work on yourself. Do not be afraid to learn something new and get new experience in different areas. It hard nowadays to earn good free amount of satoshi from the bitcoin faucet. I think the best ideas is for one be into this kind of bitcoin forum. As i hear about getting signature i think this is great opportunity too. Yes, you are right - this is a good opportunity. But do not think that it's easy. To receive a fee for their messages, they must be informative and interesting My first experience in bitcoin when I first started it I become easily interested to learn well on whats the process of bitcoin and on how it works well. Well, I remember that Ive become more agressive that time to learn and to earn in bitcoin. Even me, I was urge to collect coin at my first time on having transaction with strangers around, I feel so cool at that time and make some studies on how to collect more of it. It was good Experience. Yes, I agree with you. It was a good experience. I really enjoyed using bitcoin. It's unusual. When you use bitcoin, you feel free the first japan bill containing virtual currencies is expected to come on april which recognizes bitcoin as a method of payment.Although,it doesnot define bitcoin as a legal currency,it is still considered as a remarkable progress for bitcoin in japan.Hope, most of tourists who would go to japan to see 2020 olympics would be able to pay in bitcoins. Thats a great news from such a technically advanced country like japan.Previously,most of japanese lost their interest in bitcoin due to Mt.Gox shut down.Its good to see now they have started adopting bitcoins once again.Since 2020 Olympics is a world event,if bitcoin is accepted at that time,then surely it would give a big publicity to bitcoin through out the world.I agree with you. The Olympics is a very important event. And many people will learn about bitcoin. This will make it more popular. It is a pity that the Olympics are not this year. This would help bitcoin There are no indicators that the up trend is going to slow down any time soon, so I'd say to at least hold your Bitcoin until you see a clear indication that the price is going down. Btw, investing your coins is almost the same as holding imo.. With some extra risk, but you should be able to minimize that by doing your research. Yes, I agree, the crypto currency is very unpredictable and no one can accurately tell what price will be tomorrow. But the bitcoin community believes in it. I would save some bitkoins for a distant future I try to buy new things, but as far as my budget allows. Sometimes it stimulates me to increase earnings. I love everything new and I enjoy it immensely. Therefore, I have to increase my workload to allow me to buy new things. I completely agree with you. If I have a desire to buy vesh, then I immediately think about whether I have money for this vesh. If not, then I'm looking for an additional source of income. But I do not like goods on credit true, bitcoin is freedom. freedom in business, freedom of choice, and the freedom to be rich people. bitcoin have the freedom to users, and I think it does have limitations. when have bitcoin, I kept thinking about the business that I could not do in the real world. yes bitcoin can be consider as freedom. you do not have to visit a bank for withdrawal of your money, you can withdrawal any amount of bitcoin from your wallet at any time and can sent as payment to any one in any time. Yes, you are right, now in the bitcoin community there is a split. And no one can say what will happen tomorrow. Whether we will be able to use our bitcoins as freely. Anyone who claims to be the second coming of Christ is automatically labelled as a crazy person or just seeking attention. So I understand that the onus is on me to prove that I am in fact a prophet of god. The main problem is that I cannot make future events come to pass while my willpower is possessed by other people. And as long as I'm residing in someone elses house, the master of the house will possess my willpower. Has anyone noticed that banks always predict prosperity for themselves, and petroleum corporations always predict higher oil prices? They're not just making predictions, they're prophesizing. The banks and the police possess my willpower. The easiest way for me to regain my willpower is to walk into the wilderness and fast for forty days. Unfortunately, if I do this then the rest of the world will lose and I will win, leading to catastrophe and destruction for everybody else (natural disasters, economic collapse, pandemic, etc.). Perhaps there is an alternative solution. I don't really care about winning, and I certainly don't want billions of innocent people to suffer. God told me to deliver his message, and over the past 3 years or so I've written over 500 pages of what I believe to be divinely inspired scripture. Is anybody interested in reading my message? You are such a troll, oh my god, this is brilliant. This post and the reactions of the users reading it made my day. I have an idea for a website that will attract many visitors. If you are sure that you will be attracting many visitors then you will make a good enough money with good ads itself and make sure that you do not fill up all the space with advertisement so that it annoys visitors, it all depends upon what kind of idea you are coming up with,the more the visitors the more money you are going to make.Yes, you are right, the site should be very attractive to visitors. A lot of advertising will not attract people. It is necessary that the site was interesting to a large number of people due to its relevance How much bitcoin do you earn for a day or for a week? Im earning 0.0026 per day only and im earning it in signature campaign. Where do you earn most of you coins? Share to me plss :) I am earning nothing . I think there is no one best campaign that can pay a best amount for per post according to my post quality .trading is about stopped for me . Hope soon the market will fluctuate and will result in the Profit for me . I agree with you. It is better to earn a little, but it is stable. It's better than nothing. I, too, do not get good money now, but I try. My income per week is only 0.01 bitcoins I have a lot of things I do with bitcoin that is buying online stuffs, paying bills online, payment or transfer of payment. I joined also in an investment using bitcoin and buying and selling bitcoin. These are the things I do with bitcoin. But all of these the good thing is I earned in bitcoin also which Im really thankful. Those are the very few things that we can do with our bitcoins. But as of now base on what is happening, you just need to do nothing with it. By keep on holding it you will be doing the best thing. Though if you need to spend some of it then just use it with your preferred activity. Bitcoin is not widely used and accepted everywhere at a moment so spending them is bit difficult but if you are in urgent need of cash then you can sell them and convert it to fiat currency and if not then its better to hold them for future as price is low now so I don't see any point in spending them as it will give us less benefits if we spend them now. But with the help of those local exchangers, spending bitcoin is easier for us. Too bad if you are living on a country that you don't have your own exchange but still you can use some other good trading platform where you can use your bitcoi for converting to PayPal funds which is still good and considerable as you used bitcoin for it. Yeah if you don't have an option of spending it directly then you can always convert your bitcoins to fiat currency and spend wherever you want and now we also have an option of bitcoin debit card which has made things really easier as it is accepted everywhere like other bank cards so you can use it anywhere to buy almost anything. Yes, I agree - the depot card very much simplified the use of the crypto currency. And if a person wants to spend his bitcoins, then the use of such a card will be convenient I dont think you can get a full coin fast with the free method, i've been on the free method since last year and the most i could achieve was between 50 and 35 usd by solving captchas and using faucets. To do this, very strong knowledge is needed. I think that a new person from scratch should start with another earnings. If freelancing then it is more suitable than collecting cranes or other things. More signatures are easy and without risk. But this is an extreme case.Better buy btc irl and invest them on something safe, like the pats going to playoffs next season I agree with you - freelancing is the safest way to earn money. But sometimes you need to take risks if you want to get more. From scratch, you can start anything and this can result in great success. And then talking to his alts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858136 Dizaster2015 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=920630 bitbunnni https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=907399 Seccerius I'm tired of being poor. I'm tired of one day one eat. I will just want to be happy and stop worrying about my empty stomuch. Most likely, people whose rich tends to find more ways rayher than demanding on how to make a way. People which is poor do ordinary but rich people do extraordinary.A poor man needs to exert hundreds of times more effort to achieve wealth rich people view all business difficulties as a challenge and opportunity, while poor people always give up before engaging/give up halfway, and kept waiting for an easier business. For example, poor people assume all sorts of HYIP is wrong and continue to express hatred every time. While many rich people consider HYIP as a daily breakfast. It will be more correct to say not the poor, but lazy people and freebie lovers. A normal person will never believe in this fraudulent scheme of earnings. Lazybirds always look for easy ways, stop halfway, are afraid of difficulties and all their lives remain poor or lose huge money that they inherited. Here business in enterprise skills and desire constantly to grow. Yes you are right. To become rich, you must constantly work on yourself. Do not be afraid to learn something new and get new experience in different areas. And of course multiple shitcoin campaigns paid him to do this every time. Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Lorak on May 11, 2017, 04:51:42 PM Are these your "office accounts"? Yes indeed some accounts of our employees. I don't know. I'll text them a link to your post even looking. 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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=918231 Mitcsell (similar to Mitchell - Staff) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=912501 kwuccduck (similar to kwukduck - Legendary) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914746 chrisivl (similar to chrisvl - Legendary) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=919514 NyeFee (similar to NyeFe - Hero) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=862055 crockoo (similar to crocko - Hero) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914744 btvlGainer (similar tr btvGainer - Hero) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=865909 DimidoffVany https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=865705 SmirnoffVany https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=866138 PetroffVany https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=866936 SidaroffVany Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: hilariousandco on May 11, 2017, 04:54:55 PM Please drop the office/employees shtick cos nobody is gonna buy it unless you have some sort of Russian sweatshop going here, but either way your accounts were shitposting on an industrial scale.
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: ibminer on May 11, 2017, 05:31:35 PM Good catch, somebody just lost a lot of income potential! :P
Question: Should permabanned accounts be able to show themselves as "online" or have a last active date after the ban? EDIT: I'm referring to DimidoffVany (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=865909) Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Zepher on May 11, 2017, 05:50:37 PM That is a hell of a lot of accounts! :o Good catch there hilariousandco.
@OP - I hope you understand just why these accounts have been banned. The majority of what I see above is definitely spam, no getting away from that fact. Just why your "office" and each of its' employees needed an account is beyond me, unless wait... you were building them up (as already stated, on an industrial scale) to either take advantage of Signature Campaigns, or in the case of those accounts that closely match Staff & other senior/trusted members - to scam someone. Both of those are reasons for permanent bans. Unless you have something constructive to post, just don't bother - doing what has been done here will be caught every time, the mods are not stupid. Hopefully you have learnt your lesson, but I doubt it ::) Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: coolcoinz on May 13, 2017, 05:28:54 PM Many of them are the same person:
Yes, it is better to share with others :D For one person this is too much alcohol even such good. Yes, so did many. Yes, I do not have too much earning for bitcoins so I can afford to give up the main job and live only for the profits from bitcoin. Yes, sometimes it can be useful. But I doubt that people want to run a robot for good purposes. Same paid avatar, posts in Russian, very similar style of writing, where he frequently opens with "yes," Nice office you had there. This account fizamcc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914279 is very similar to nizamcc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=914279 The real one seems to be from India and the other from Russia, so i'd say an impersonation attempt, not an alt. I'm actually amazed that he managed to run so many accounts for so long. Even the sole amount of impersonated (stolen?) nicknames should have got him discovered and banned. Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: ahmedjamal1998 on May 13, 2017, 05:57:24 PM Oh My God !
That's a huge amount of accounts. This guy literally spent a portion of his life on bitcointalk creating and managing those accounts. That's seriously insane! You could have done many better things than spamming the forum :/ That's an amazing catch mod ! Wondering how long it took you to gather all these. I've seen people getting spotted with 2,3,4 accounts but that is fricking NEXT LEVEL ! He owned 192 accounts each with about 200 to 300 posts. MATE GET A LIFE ! Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: criptix on May 13, 2017, 11:50:23 PM Someone with enough free time could check all the accounts and look up how much the sweatshop actually earned. Would be interesting and funny to know :D
Edit 192 × ~250 = 48.000 48.000 - (192×14) = 45.312 How much per post do you earn nowadays? 45.312 × ??? = Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: Karmakid on May 14, 2017, 05:03:23 AM It is impossible that all of that account get banned permanently in the forum at the same time and day without any such necesarry failure on following rules on the forum.Maybe post quality is the issue of getting banned or the accounts are farmed
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: freedomno1 on May 14, 2017, 08:20:28 AM Just perusing through meta sees this thread about an office of bitcointalk spam looks and goes ... nice catch.
I don't know whether to say that is a bitcoiner's extreme dedication or facepalm so I'll just put in an image for the one guy and a snippet from one of that giant list. Bitcoin provided me with the opportunity for good additional earnings without much time and probably in the future it will make me very rich. https://blog.sprinklebit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bitcoin.jpg(Yes I saw the first few were all encryptotel sigs but never heard of that coin and it gets converted eventually unless you killed a whole coin and artificial thread boosting scheme kind of looks like it with that list edit nvm their campaign just ended still a good catch ^^) Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: botany on April 26, 2018, 08:13:40 PM Was a similar case caught, before the account farmers managed to get started?
I see 508 accounts banned en masse by the moderators in the modlog. Most of them seem to have zero posts... Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: hilariousandco on April 26, 2018, 08:19:47 PM Not that I know of. Maybe they were marinecoin accounts that have been nuked by the banbot?
Title: Re: What to do if you blocked the accounts of the whole office? Post by: botany on April 27, 2018, 05:28:53 AM Not that I know of. Maybe they were marinecoin accounts that have been nuked by the banbot? Ah okay.... Usually these nuked accounts don't show up in the modlog as perma-bans. That is why I was curious. If a bot can take care of some cases, nothing like it. |