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Title: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: bitpar on May 05, 2013, 06:59:16 AM
I made a graph on the BitBar money supply. Too bad I didn't start mining until hours into the launch. At the start of the public launch, time 0 in this chart, there was 60.628732 BTB in existence.

https://i.imgur.com/qcjso0c.png

Data source: http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/chain/BitBar (http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/chain/BitBar)


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: stevenb on May 05, 2013, 07:02:06 AM
As it's extremely hard to mine BTB, i might keep my precious BTBs :D


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: bitpar on May 05, 2013, 07:07:18 AM
Here is the difficulty as well.

https://i.imgur.com/22WT30F.png


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: collapse on May 05, 2013, 07:34:41 AM
Quote
Every parameter is simulated and than tested
I think that 10 persons have around 1/2 of total.

Time frame, new pre-mining model...., or,  "fine bar gold"  premine scam ?.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193519.480


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: hdclover on May 05, 2013, 07:39:12 AM
only people who missed the boat , said its a scam :)



Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: bitpar on May 05, 2013, 07:45:11 AM
Disclaimer: I mined some and bought some so I do stand to benefit from adoption of this coin. I'm making this post in the interest of transparency.

I like the coin but I don't see where they got "reward of 1 BTB per 10 minutes and quickly dropping" from. In the first hour of the public launch, the money supply went from 60.628732 BTB to 1384.485544 BTB.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: collapse on May 05, 2013, 07:57:48 AM
only people who missed the boat , said its a scam :)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 03:04:11 PM
only people who missed the boat , said its a scam :)



I started mining on the 3rd post of the ANN thread and all I got was 5 BTB.

I had very bad latency to the network so all I had were orphans and rejects.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: Eb0la on May 05, 2013, 03:06:05 PM
Very interesting.

I hold some BTB and will keep it to see how it does.  Its a great concept if it takes to main stream.  Instead of having a wallet with say 100k Bitcoins, you can have 10BTB :D  I like those numbers :D  hahaha


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: GhostDK on May 05, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
So it is premined pretty hard???


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
So it is premined pretty hard???
If by premined, you mean it was announced publicly before launch and you weren't there fast enough to get to it, then yes.

I only noticed it a day after, and it still has my interest. It is a very new coin though.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: hdclover on May 05, 2013, 03:09:10 PM
So it is premined pretty hard???
lol missed the boat again.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: zdarkazn on May 05, 2013, 03:13:26 PM
Im glad I got some (:


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: Jakewell on May 05, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Its not a scam, alot earliers got 2-5 bars too


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: GhostDK on May 05, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
At the start of the public launch, time 0 in this chart, there was 60.628732 BTB in existence.

That wil mean there was 60 BTB mined before the it lunch ;) I couldn't care less when I saw it. Don't have more than a laptop so no mining for me ;) 


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
At the start of the public launch, time 0 in this chart, there was 60.628732 BTB in existence.

That wil mean there was 60 BTB mined before the it lunch ;) I couldn't care less when I saw it. Don't have more than a laptop so no mining for me ;) 

Actually I think you're right, because people talked about this yesterday.
There was like a 5 minute premine, and that 60 BTB accounts for 2% of the money supply.

Personally, I couldn't care about a 5 minute advantage, being that I was atleast 24hr late to the party.



Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 03:37:55 PM
Here is the difficulty as well.

https://i.imgur.com/22WT30F.png

Even though it is better than with FTC and CNC, it is still a fail. Wannabe developers should really rethink the math - in case they actualy want fair coin start, of course.

So it is premined pretty hard???
If by premined, you mean it was announced publicly before launch and you weren't there fast enough to get to it, then yes.

BTB was actualy premined - one of the testers admitted it already. And there was public premine due to insane low starting difficulty, where those few fast enough got
insane amount of BTB in very short period of time - including myself, with 5 BTB made using lousy 5770 hashing at 100 kHashes for few hours.

Blockchain is revealing the scam. Graphs like those posted above are revealing the scam. So please, don't play retard twisting the truth in order to profit from this scam.

You're the same idiot who was bashing FTC before it gained 500% value.

It's too bad you go back to delete evidence of stupidity in your posts, it makes the link below look like I was talking to a ghost.

Try not to delete your thread so the people can see what a moron you are, and why your 'ignore' under your name is highlighted orange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186076.msg1932878#msg1932878

Thanks !


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 03:41:10 PM
Btw he has link in his signature that BTB is a scam.

However he was also promoting BFL for free on his website for a long time up until recently.

Then he made some bitchfit thread about how BFL didn't pay him.

Good job promoting scam company though.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: limbaugh on May 05, 2013, 03:42:56 PM

You're the same idiot who was bashing FTC before it gained 500% value.

It's too bad you go back to delete evidence of stupidity in your posts, it makes the link below look like I was talking to a ghost.

Try not to delete your thread so the people can see what a moron you are, and why your 'ignore' under your name is highlighted orange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186076.msg1932878#msg1932878

Thanks !

I am sure he will delete his posts in this thread after his late to adopt tantrum proves lame at best.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: zdarkazn on May 05, 2013, 03:44:38 PM
Btw he has link in his signature that BTB is a scam.

However he was also promoting BFL for free on his website for a long time up until recently.

Then he made some bitchfit thread about how BFL didn't pay him.

Good job promoting scam company though.

LOL..
Here is the difficulty as well.

https://i.imgur.com/22WT30F.png

Even though it is better than with FTC and CNC, it is still a fail. Wannabe developers should really rethink the math - in case they actualy want fair coin start, of course.

So it is premined pretty hard???
If by premined, you mean it was announced publicly before launch and you weren't there fast enough to get to it, then yes.

BTB was actualy premined - one of the testers admitted it already. And there was public premine due to insane low starting difficulty, where those few fast enough got
insane amount of BTB in very short period of time - including myself, with 5 BTB made using lousy 5770 hashing at 100 kHashes for few hours.

Blockchain is revealing the scam. Graphs like those posted above are revealing the scam. So please, don't play retard twisting the truth in order to profit from this scam.

You're the same idiot who was bashing FTC before it gained 500% value.

It's too bad you go back to delete evidence of stupidity in your posts, it makes the link below look like I was talking to a ghost.

Try not to delete your thread so the people can see what a moron you are, and why your 'ignore' under your name is highlighted orange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186076.msg1932878#msg1932878

Thanks !
Hey, new information. Thanks!

And yes I remember that FeatherCoin bashing also..


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 03:55:22 PM
Once BFL gets scammer tag on this forum you will be right. Until then you are wrong.

Are you still trying to defend BFL?

You know, some key players in the BTC community expected BFL was to be a scam, even months ahead in advance last year, ( I heard about it in June/July last year) when October was due to come, and they were supposed to start shipping. Since then, its been those famous words, "We should start shipping by next month".

They've taken an immense amount of money from a large amount of people here.
Most of that money , instead of put into development or other costs, was put into advertising more of their ghost products so they could take more peoples money at a faster rate.
I feel sorry for everyone who invested into BFL, truly.
I don't think anyone deserves to be scammed. Even if they deliver a product a year or two late, that is not in a timely fashion, and people were misled and continue to be misled a year later.

I suppose it's right then that YOU would defend/support them.
I can't say that everyone here would agree with your point of view (or anyone).

Anyway, @OP sorry to get offtopic.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: zdarkazn on May 05, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
Ignore is orange because there are many like you here, who I have no problem whatsoever calling names, insulting, proving wrong or whatever I find appropriate.

On topic:

Yes, BitBar is a scam! Let us compare coin distribution graphs for BTC and BTB for the next 20 years - an approximation:

https://i.imgur.com/7QFjRjB.png

Still not enough proofs?

I hightly doubt we will reach 20mil BitBars at the end of this year..


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
Ignore is orange because there are many like you here, who I have no problem whatsoever calling names, insulting, proving wrong or whatever I find appropriate.

On topic:

Yes, BitBar is a scam! Let us compare coin distribution graphs for BTC and BTB for the next 20 years - an approximation:

https://i.imgur.com/7QFjRjB.png

Still not enough proofs?

You've miscalculated some.

http://s21.postimg.org/qa2926zh3/substratasgraph.png

Please stop spamming your uselessness in this thread now.

It's obvious your a troll/bfl fanboy.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:16:39 PM
I remember substrata calling out feathercoin as a pre-mined scam too before erasing his own posts and then proceeding to buy all the FTC he could.

He's too much of a nub for anyone to believe him.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: BBQKorv on May 05, 2013, 04:17:04 PM
Nice charts but the values are wrong.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: juve4v on May 05, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
 I think I remember subSTRATA comments when FTC came up too. He's trying hard again . :)


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:25:06 PM
I remember substrata calling out feathercoin as a pre-mined scam too before erasing his own posts and then proceeding to buy all the FTC he could.

There is a post about it on this same page:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195621.msg2037003#msg2037003

I'm deleting my posts for very different reason than you think, but you would not understand it even if I make a video about it.  ;D

Nice charts but the values are wrong.

I said it is an approximation. If you don't like it, you do the better job.

Then why be such a hypocrite? Call a coin a scam and then proceed to buy it?

For someone who thinks he's that intelligent, doesn't this come off as pretty stupid?


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:25:38 PM
LOL. Only idiots buy BTB with BTC.

I for one are mining BTB until it soars a little more then dump it for BTC, have to feed from them idiots.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
I remember substrata calling out feathercoin as a pre-mined scam too before erasing his own posts and then proceeding to buy all the FTC he could.

There is a post about it on this same page:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195621.msg2037003#msg2037003

I'm deleting my posts for very different reason than you think, but you would not understand it even if I make a video about it.  ;D

Nice charts but the values are wrong.

I said it is an approximation. If you don't like it, you do the better job.

Then why be such a hypocrite? Call a coin a scam and then proceed to buy it?

For someone to think he's that intelligent, doesn't this come off as pretty stupid?


LOL no, I'm doing exactly the same. BTB is a scam, if idiots want to get rid of their BTC for scamcoins so be it, I will bash it but I can still benefit from it.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: limbaugh on May 05, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
I think I remember subSTRATA comments when FTC came up too. He's trying hard again . :)


His obvious disdain for others than himself making a profit is evident. Only mindless sheep will listen to his rants.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:30:10 PM
I think I remember subSTRATA comments when FTC came up too. He's trying hard again . :)

Too bad blockchain exists for everyone to see the truth, and scrypts to harvest websites for data exist as well. Trying hard? I find it harder to turn on and off my computer.  ;D

But you were telling everyone that feathercoins was a pre-mine and there wasn't a pre-mine according to the blockchain.

And it's scripts, not scrypts you nub.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: juve4v on May 05, 2013, 04:31:46 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: TruCoin on May 05, 2013, 04:34:00 PM
Here is the difficulty as well.

https://i.imgur.com/22WT30F.png

Even though it is better than with FTC and CNC, it is still a fail. Wannabe developers should really rethink the math - in case they actualy want fair coin start, of course.

So it is premined pretty hard???
If by premined, you mean it was announced publicly before launch and you weren't there fast enough to get to it, then yes.

BTB was actualy premined - one of the testers admitted it already. And there was public premine due to insane low starting difficulty, where those few fast enough got
insane amount of BTB in very short period of time - including myself, with 5 BTB made using lousy 5770 hashing at 100 kHashes for few hours.

Blockchain is revealing the scam. Graphs like those posted above are revealing the scam. So please, don't play retard twisting the truth in order to profit from this scam.

You're the same idiot who was bashing FTC before it gained 500% value.

It's too bad you go back to delete evidence of stupidity in your posts, it makes the link below look like I was talking to a ghost.

Try not to delete your thread so the people can see what a moron you are, and why your 'ignore' under your name is highlighted orange.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186076.msg1932878#msg1932878

Thanks !

+1000  ;D


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:35:46 PM
Btw substrata, let me give you a life lesson.

People who are intelligent never shout that they are because they know they are.

People who are not intelligent will keep saying they are because they are trying to convince people they are. But in the end, they simply are not.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:36:27 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: juve4v on May 05, 2013, 04:38:35 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:42:40 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: limbaugh on May 05, 2013, 04:43:20 PM


I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).

I'd say if one of the hate sheep are mining BTB it's a good sign there is future growth.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: daytrader420 on May 05, 2013, 04:44:33 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?

You were kinda sounding like a little bitch like this the other day when you were talking about Feathercoin.

I've never seen someone actually be such a little whiney cunt about making money.


edit: but I think I understand, you, like me, didn't understand the hype of FTC, and the fact is it reached litecoins hashrate at one point. Both networks were 8 gh/s. But yes you made your thread days ago about "scam coin this and scamcoin that and im mining it only for profitability" what the fuck were you mining it before, if not for profitability? For magical unicorns or something? If anyones mining here for something other than profitability, you got my curiousity. so what, you didn't understand FTC, so you mined it and sold it alll as you did, then value increased x5 and now you're just bitching pissing and moaning. Welcome to crypto-currency.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?

1) Same argument substrata used. So practically every coin has been a scam including, Bitcoin.

2) Bitcoin did that too.

3) That's the entire free world market. You want something, you buy it. It's not limited to BTB.

4) Doesn't that make you a scammer too then?


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:46:23 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?

You were kinda sounding like a little bitch like this the other day when you were talking about Feathercoin.

I've never seen someone actually be such a little whiney cunt about making money.

And you keep the same strategy of SHILLS (Attack poster instead of arguments)

You irate that I'm aware of scams and keep profiting while exposing them?


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: juve4v on May 05, 2013, 04:46:45 PM


I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).

I'd say if one of the hate sheep are mining BTB it's a good sign there is future growth.


exactly!


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:48:45 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?

1) Same argument substrata used. So practically every coin has been a scam including, Bitcoin.

2) Bitcoin did that too.

3) That's the entire free world market. You want something, you buy it. It's not limited to BTB.

4) Doesn't that make you a scammer too then?

LMFAO.

1) sure buddy, keep defending this SCAM. So Bitcoin changed the rewuard after half day of mining LOL.

2) Bitcoin was the original coin, how do you even compare it if there were no altcoins?

3) Scamming someone in the free market is still scam, what are you even talking about?

4) Yes.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: mr_random on May 05, 2013, 04:50:25 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB)
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)

Keep hating :)


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: mr_random on May 05, 2013, 04:52:39 PM
2) Bitcoin did that too.

Have you actualy ever checked Bitcoin blockchain starting with genesis block, lame bastard? Do yourself a favour and check the block times there. It should make you
start giving at least some respect to Satoshi and other developers without whom there would be no Litecoin nor any other cryptocoin including pathetic scamcoins you
and alikes embraced so much.

Satoshi has 950k bitcoins. That's almost 10% of the coin supply.

Stop swearing at people, it's childish and rude. We are all adults here.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?

1) Same argument substrata used. So practically every coin has been a scam including, Bitcoin.

2) Bitcoin did that too.

3) That's the entire free world market. You want something, you buy it. It's not limited to BTB.

4) Doesn't that make you a scammer too then?

LMFAO.

1) sure buddy, keep defending this SCAM. So Bitcoin changed the rewuard after half day of mining LOL.

2) Bitcoin was the original coin, how do you even compare it if there were no altcoins?

3) Scamming someone in the free market is still scam, what are you even talking about?

4) Yes.

1) No, but with your reasoning, it was a pre-mine since most miners didn't get in early and most of the early adopters got the coins.

2) People were saying exactly the same thing then. You think BTC was taken seriously right from the start?

3) You want a coffee for $5 at Starbucks which costs less then $1 to make. Is that a scam?


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:53:27 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB) Sure bud, blockchain indicates otherwise
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way You are proving the point that SCAMCOINS gonna SCAM
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)So 5 minutes into the game is the new early adopters timeframe?  ::) ::) ::)

Keep hating :)

Derp in bold


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 04:55:01 PM
2) Bitcoin did that too.

Have you actualy ever checked Bitcoin blockchain starting with genesis block, lame bastard? Do yourself a favour and check the block times there. It should make you
start giving at least some respect to Satoshi and other developers without whom there would be no Litecoin nor any other cryptocoin including pathetic scamcoins you
and alikes embraced so much.

Why didn't you do that for feathercoin before calling it a pre-mine scam then?

Your post has a lot of spelling errors for someone who is really smart.

And you didn't make any sense by quoting above.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB)
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)

Keep hating :)

Counterspell!

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/181/f/e/Magic_RMX__Counterspell_by_Tia86.png

1. 60 blocks after the genesis block were premined
2. Difficulty for the first 735 blocks was so low that it can't even be shown on the explorer
3. For the premine period, 59.644201 BTB were generated in little less than 4 minutes
4. For the difficulty under 0.001 period excluding the premine period, 600.324139 BTB were created in little more than 20 minutes

http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/chain/BitBar?hi=736&count=737

You didn't get early enough and you are mad. Herp derp  haters keep on hating herp derp lol moar derp.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 05:03:37 PM
U wrong bro, I no mad bro, I got 5 BTB in few hours with just 5770 bro!  ;D

Fawking jelly, I was asleep when the announcement was made then didn't check the forum till BTB was already like a day old, still got about 0.5 BTB in 12hours though.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: zdarkazn on May 05, 2013, 05:33:35 PM
substrata :No need for you to post on clone accounts, just be a happy troll.

LOL, it's cool bro, we need shills like you to defend BTB and FTC so we can all steal them bitcoins :)

I will still say that truth that FTC and BTB are both scams, and YES I'm mining them (but right now only BTB).


So you mine BTB too..

Do you even read? check my earlier 2 posts in this thread. Let me explain it to you again:

1. BTB is a Huge scam, it's obvious that not every single miner in the community will be able to see an announcement thread and point all miners exactly at the same time to get a big chunk of the 90% minable coins in the first year in 12 hours.

2. BTB will keep getting attention and shill threads to backup its false legitimacy (Shills and early adopters will keep defending it using "you didn't get early thus you are mad" strategy)

3. Idiots gonna idiot and still sell their worthcoins (BTC) for BTB.

4. I'm aware of all that is happening but I'm also aware that I can make more profit from said idiots selling BTC for BTB, thus I'll keep mining SCAMCOINS to make said profit from IDIOTS.

understand?

So that means that people that missed the boat are jealous. Ok, gg. Same thing happened with BitCoins and LiteCoins. gg.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: mr_random on May 05, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB) Sure bud, blockchain indicates otherwise
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way You are proving the point that SCAMCOINS gonna SCAM
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)So 5 minutes into the game is the new early adopters timeframe?  ::) ::) ::)

Keep hating :)

Derp in bold

You obviously haven't even looked at the block chain because that is a complete lie. Why are you spreading lies or can you not read times?

Bitbar was announced at 17.30 and according to the blockchain only 5 minutes worth of mining occured prior to the announcement.

From the block explorer I see:

2013-05-02 13:56:10 to 2013-05-02 14:00:06 - Five minutes of mining (supposedly done by the tester in accident - 60BTB total)

After that nothing until 17:32:

2013-05-02 17:32:10 - First block found after 17:30 announcement on the forum


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 05:43:30 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB) Sure bud, blockchain indicates otherwise
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way You are proving the point that SCAMCOINS gonna SCAM
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)So 5 minutes into the game is the new early adopters timeframe?  ::) ::) ::)

Keep hating :)

Derp in bold

You obviously haven't even looked at the block chain because that is a complete lie. Why are you spreading lies or can you not read times?

Bitbar was announced at 17.30 and according to the blockchain only 5 minutes worth of mining occured prior to the announcement.

From the block explorer I see:

2013-05-02 13:56:10 to 2013-05-02 14:00:06 - Five minutes of mining (supposedly done by the tester in accident - 60BTB total)

After that nothing until 17:32:

2013-05-02 17:32:10 - First block found after 17:30 announcement on the forum

Don't use facts on sub and ymer. They ignore them.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 05:44:55 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB) Sure bud, blockchain indicates otherwise
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way You are proving the point that SCAMCOINS gonna SCAM
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)So 5 minutes into the game is the new early adopters timeframe?  ::) ::) ::)

Keep hating :)

Derp in bold

You obviously haven't even looked at the block chain because that is a complete lie. Why are you spreading lies or can you not read times?

Bitbar was announced at 17.30 and according to the blockchain only 5 minutes worth of mining occured prior to the announcement.

From the block explorer I see:

2013-05-02 13:56:10 to 2013-05-02 14:00:06 - Five minutes of mining (supposedly done by the tester in accident - 60BTB total)

After that nothing until 17:32:

2013-05-02 17:32:10 - First block found after 17:30 announcement on the forum

Don't use facts on sub and ymer. They ignore them.

like r3animation and mr_random ignoring post #59


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: r3animation on May 05, 2013, 05:47:50 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB) Sure bud, blockchain indicates otherwise
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way You are proving the point that SCAMCOINS gonna SCAM
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)So 5 minutes into the game is the new early adopters timeframe?  ::) ::) ::)

Keep hating :)

Derp in bold

You obviously haven't even looked at the block chain because that is a complete lie. Why are you spreading lies or can you not read times?

Bitbar was announced at 17.30 and according to the blockchain only 5 minutes worth of mining occured prior to the announcement.

From the block explorer I see:

2013-05-02 13:56:10 to 2013-05-02 14:00:06 - Five minutes of mining (supposedly done by the tester in accident - 60BTB total)

After that nothing until 17:32:

2013-05-02 17:32:10 - First block found after 17:30 announcement on the forum

Don't use facts on sub and ymer. They ignore them.

like r3animation and mr_random ignoring post #59

Post #59 just shows you're jealous you didn't read the announcement and get into mining early on.

And for the record, I'm okay with the pre-mining of 60 BTB because it will be given back to the community.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: zdarkazn on May 05, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
BitBar guys just copy and paste these facts to the trolls:

- There was 5 minutes of premining done in error by the tester - those bitbars are being donated as a bounty towards the exchange. See the official launch topic. The graph is the entire coins produced, not of the accidental pre-mine (it was only 60 BTB) Sure bud, blockchain indicates otherwise
- The difficulty for Feathercoin was also at 0. In fact several coins launched that way You are proving the point that SCAMCOINS gonna SCAM
- As with most new coin launches on the first day a huge amount get created for the super early adopters (2 million for PPCoin, 200,000 in the first 2 hours for Feathercoin, many others...)So 5 minutes into the game is the new early adopters timeframe?  ::) ::) ::)

Keep hating :)

Derp in bold

You obviously haven't even looked at the block chain because that is a complete lie. Why are you spreading lies or can you not read times?

Bitbar was announced at 17.30 and according to the blockchain only 5 minutes worth of mining occured prior to the announcement.

From the block explorer I see:

2013-05-02 13:56:10 to 2013-05-02 14:00:06 - Five minutes of mining (supposedly done by the tester in accident - 60BTB total)

After that nothing until 17:32:

2013-05-02 17:32:10 - First block found after 17:30 announcement on the forum

Don't use facts on sub and ymer. They ignore them.

like r3animation and mr_random ignoring post #59

Proof please, i cant understand blockchain language from a broken site.


Title: Re: Total BTB vs. Time
Post by: GSnak on May 05, 2013, 06:46:30 PM
Here's the 60 premined coins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195372.0). You can have them if you want them, or you could keep whining about them like a little pussy.


Hey, you reminded me I need to prove FTC scamcoin as well and add link to the proof in my signature. It will be done tommorow most likely, I hate working on Sundays.

Good job but you're right, you shouldn't overdo it. Just so you're aware though, there's a new scamcoin called Junkcoin that's been released to fleece the masses! If you could allocate some of your valuable resources to head over there and expose that as "junk", that would be great.