Bitcoin Forum

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/07/schumer-its-time-to-go-after-the-3-d-printable-guns/


The senator also proposed updating the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 — which bans guns that can defeat airport security metal detectors — to include printable gun magazines. Defense Distributed has a federal firearms manufacturers license, which Wilson sought after being questioned by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in 2012. That was shortly after a 3-D printer Wilson had rented was seized by its manufacturer over worries he’d violate the Undetectable Firearms Act. The law, which is set to expire this year, exempts licensed manufacturers to produce plastic guns for use as a models and prototypes.

“There’s no reason for a rifle receiver or a magazine to be, quote unquote, detectable,” Wilson says. “And to make this even worse, they’ll say: well it’s okay for manufacturers to make an undetectable receiver, but it’s just not okay for you to make it. It’s an attempt to regulate some gun parts under the guise of security.”

as this technology progresses it will be covered more and more by the media. they'll use fear tactics to promote regulation on it and then eventually (after a major crime is committed with a printed weapon) they'll probably use it as an excuse to ban the technology (atleast for non-corporate use).

Someone needs to encode the CAD file into the blockchain.

Good luck enforcing that ban.  :D

ya, bans didn't work well for alcohol and now drugs. i'm worried more that it will hold back the technology. i mean look at how far 3d printing has progressed just in the last few years, think where it'll be 30-40 years from now if it remains unhindered. if it keeps advancing at its current rate, it's entirely possible that a 3d printer could become a household item and revolutionize how we buy products.

who knows what the future will hold, but its a technology with so much potential. i'd hate to have its advancement stopped by something as silly as big brother protection.

The last thing someone in power wants to do is allow the 99% easy weaponry.  You don't conquer a people by arming them.  You first take control of the most expensive military in the world, and then use it against anyone who disagrees with you.  It's hard to do that when those people who disagree have the ability to fight back.  It's hard to look like the good guy when you can't rush to someone's rescue, someone you've disarmed without them knowing you've disarmed them.  You don't give people weapons; otherwise, they might get the idea that they can defend themselves.  They might even collaborate against you, the guy in charge--madness!  What fool on top would allow this?  Divide and conquer: repeat after me.  Divide and conquer.

That's one of the major problems with government, the way they hold back technology and human progress.  I first began to notice this back in the late 90's, which was when I first began to wonder about the story we are told when we are young about government.  It being there for the good of us all and all that.

There's no way they are going to hold it back ultimately of course, but how much damage are they going to do in the interim period?

It will also be interesting to see how it develops in places other than the USA.  At least there is a kind of gun culture there.  Try even bringing up the topic of citizens owning guns in Australia and watch people completely freak.   Yes, we are that brainwashed.  It even took a while for me to break the brainwashing.  It is just that effective.

MakerBot.com makes it impossible to even ban the 3D printer itself as it is open source. It is a "crude" machine as of now but...

Since you can use one 3d printer to make most of the parts for another 3d printer, a ban on them would be pretty futile.  One of the goals of the open source 3d printers is to be able to print a printer.

Relevant:
http://craphound.com/?p=573

Today this thread became reality.

Schumer....is that Italian?

Feinstein is I think....

This is America. Everybody came from somewhere one day, like the US president...

Who came here from Kenya. ;D

Please do not insult my good Kenyan friends like that.

more likely attempts to ban will simply increase exposure and awareness of the printers, and everyone will have to buy one.  Just like the recent explosion of sales in assault rifles when the pols started screaming about banning them.

Back in Soviet Union, all typewriters were registered and tracked by the government, and it was illegal to own one. You had to borrow one from the state. This was done to prevent any illegal publications, such as copies of banned books or underground newspapers.
Just saying...

I don't really get the big fuss about the printed gun that's been doing the rounds on news websites lately...

Obviously the 3D printer is unable to produce the complex parts of a handgun... Clearly it can't just print gunpowder for you, or a mechanical part such as a spring... it can only print the 'static' parts like the outer casing, handle, barrel etc.

In that sense, we have always been able to make a home-made gun - all the 3d printer has achieved is to speed up / automate that process..

But 3D-printer or not, with a little bit of material (sheet metal, balsa wood, fibreglass, plastic or wateva) some basic tools and a whole lot of dedication, one could always produce the static 'chassis' that makes up a handgun.

This one printed everything but the bullet and the firing pin (they used a nail). So all the complex mechanical parts, including the spring.

it printed a compression spring??

wow. it seems they can.

I stand corrected. (said the man with the orthopaedic shoes)

Unfortunately it's easier to enforce it than you might think. The reason being that as soon as you use an illegal gun - even for self-defense - you might face jail time.

I grew up in Brazil. It's a violent place. Owning a gun legally is very difficult. Buying one illegally is easier. Even though, I never attempted to buy one, and probably never would. Most burglars are only after your money, and if you surrender it, they don't kill nor hurt you. On the other hand, if you use your illegal gun for protection and end up with a dead body on your living room, you might go to jail. Even disregarding the psychological weight of knowing you took somebody's life, I'd say it's wiser to just give your money than face jail just to save it.

Anyway. I hope 3D-printable guns kill for once the wrong idea that gun prohibition can reduce the number of guns available to criminals. And I hope that changes the mind of enough anti-gun people, and legal gun ownership becomes easier around the globe. Because otherwise, I'm not sure how would they help. Most honest people who can't have legal guns would likely be afraid to print their own. And those who already can don't need to bother, conventional guns will remain much better for a long time.

Not the gun, the printing technology. It will be almost as hard to suppress as filesharing.

Ah, sorry.
The technology won't be banned. I mean, even dumb politicians can see the amount of good uses these printers can have. At most, they'll try to control/regulate it in order to forbid the printing of certain contents, pretty much as filesharing indeed (which is not banned, they just attempt to ban particular files). They'd fail, as you noted.

They used a wind-up type (looks like @ with many more loops)

Once the files get listed on TPB, it's pretty much going to stick around forever.  The only thing politicians can really do is stall the inevitable by giving 3D printer manufacturers such a hard time that they can't really sell to the common folk; not for a while anyway.

Someone I was talking to said, "But, what if they ban the actual files, like they did with CP?"

They'd have to prove that the files themselves are evidence of harm caused. CP is photographic proof of abuse, these are just cad designs.

Damn cat! Get back in your bag!  >:(

Good luck controlling an idea. This is here to stay forever. Now lets talk non-printable parts. Someone mentioned gunpowder?
Find a cave that has or has had bat colonies. You will see large guano piles in such a cave, and all around the edges of the guano pile you will see that Potassium nitrate has precipitated. It is also called saltpeter and it is a white powder/crystal. Collect it.

Next you will need to make some charcoal. Build a reduction fire in a pit you have dug and fill it with hardwood chunks. Light it and cover with grass to smother it a bit. When you are done you will have charcoal.

Next you need some sulfur.   Sulfur is the 16th. most common element. You can find it in nature if you live near a volcano, or buy it at the pharmacy.

Weigh out 75% potassium nitrate, 15%Charcoal, and 10% sulfur.

Mill the charcoal and sulfur for several hours until a fine powder is achieved.  Now add the potassium nitrate and mill for another two days.

You now have meal powder / black powder. It is crappy gunpowder, but it will work.

Smokes like a bitch when it goes off, too. Nitrocellulose is a little more difficult (and dangerous!) to make, but it's a much better product.

Both, as I said, can be touched off with a small electrical spark.

One interesting thing that's not been mentioned about the 3d gun revolution.  Historically, legal or illegal, guns have been hoarded.  Old men have buried them in the yards in case their kids might need to dig them up decades hence.  And totalitarian societies, prior to their worse abuses of human rights, strove to take all the guns away.

But how does that change if ten million guns could appear from ten million homes overnight?

Looks like a massive empowerment of the individual versus the state.  Granted, one might still want weapons around if one feared the late night break in, the crazy gang going down the street shooting and raping, and so forth.  But versus the state, a 3d printer in every home would exactly equal guns in every home.

That is the stated purpose of DEFCAD.

Schumer may make access to bat caves very difficult by putting a TSA agent next to them.

You can make potassium nitrate at home, if you are willing to work with the guano of other species....

At this point, I think it would be way easier and more effective (and likely lethal) to just make a potato gun out of PVC and carburator cleaner spray.

Kinda hard to conceal, though.

Isn't the point of a gun to deter crime, letting people know not to screw with you, with shooting them being the last resort? Lugging a 6' tall potato cannon strapped to your back is a pretty good "don't fuck with me"  ;D

Open carry protects those who carry, who can be seen to be armed. Concealed carry protects everyone, even those who choose not to go armed, because anyone could be packing.

Plus, a spud gun would be more use as a club, in most defensive situations. Unless you're going to ask the mugger to wait while you fill the blast chamber? ;)

No!

Guns are horrible and scary!  They make ordinary people into criminals!  They make big bangy noises and those big rifles are painted black!  They senselessly kill people.  The really scary ones they have sort of pistol grip thingies and stuff that folds back and things that you put in that have bullets!  Then they can shoot the bullets at people!  It's making me cry just thinking about it and I'm scared!  So I'm going to hide in the closet.  Please tell me when it's safe to come out?

My little 3d printer hasn't done any firearms yet, but it certainly has made some interesting little things.  I like to make stuff that has several parts in a single pass.  Something about that is fundamentally interesting, as opposed to making parts and putting them together.

here's one design I've been mulling over, blue as a color simply will not do, though:

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:47541

By printing it yourself, you could defeat the low flow Al Gore Save the World Miserable Low Flow Showerhead (yes, he was responsible for these atrocities along with the nasty Internet).  You, too could have a showerhead that shot water like a firehose.

This is the future that awaits those who make their own cool stuff, instead of buying Gubbermint Approved Showerheads From Hell.  

Only one small example of the revolution that can be created by makers.  Or you could Embrace the Misery of the Collective of Low Flow Dribbling Showerheads and Save the World With Al.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_XEZ7EY8hU

Neat!

My showerhead works fine, though.

That is CLEARLY just a not-so-cleverly disguised front muzzle part of a blunderbuss. Stop spreading 3D printable gun components!

I'm caught! Yes, my dream is for every home to have blunderbuss weaponry disguised as showerheads. 

LOL...

Another handy dandy 3d printable item.  In the script, these were shipped to millions.  Think of the cost savings if everyone just printed them in their garage!  All the extra beer money!

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:23457

Actually, I think that would have cut into people's beer money. I somehow doubt V sent them all COD. :D

Still, very cool.

A rather time/period-appropriate face for the blunderbuss, too.

Another curious thing about three d printed stuff, it's like you show it to someone, if they like it you just let them keep it.  The stuff doesn't seem to have value like stuff you bought.  Because you just set another one to print before going to bed at night. Like the blunderbu---oops, ah...yeah...you know...the Anti-Gore Showerhead, it will run a couple of hours, but does not need to be watched or checked up on.

So how do you assign 'value' to something, if when you wake up you have another one?

That plastic wire ain't free, yo.

I think what will truly scare the living shit out of people is if someone manages to successfully 3D print a one shot rocket launcher or something.

That's, uh, actually extremely easy. All you are printing is a tube, a battery holder, and a place to attach wires to launch the rocket. Even rockets are easy, as long as you have the chemical propellant and explosives. Guided rockets, that's a different story.

Um. I can tell you how to do that without a 3d printer.

The knowledge of how to make a rocket motor is easy to acquire, and a launcher is just a tube with an ignition system.

Now, making something as dangerous as an RPG? That's more difficult. But a simple rocket launcher is kitchen science.

Never mind then! I stand corrected! :P

Nothing to be considered easy or reliable, amateurs have been struggling with various issues on rocket motors and so forth for decades.  And the rpg or "bazooka" is far more specialized and dangerous to the operator.  No one should ever try to do that with anything home made.  Actual equipment, before the rocket even begins to leave the sleeve, the burn is over.  If not, it's right in your face...

In fact, the "3d printed gun" presents similar problems to the operator.  Who exactly says it can't come apart when fired?  Where are the engineering calculations and the proof of concept tests?  Would you want to be at a firing range and have someone take the bench next to you with one of those?  Not I....

That's why you find a way to remotely set it off so it doesn't blow up in your face.


Wise words :P

Easy? Yes. Safe? Not really. Reliable? Hell no. And yeah, the best you're going to get is about the size and power of a very large bottle rocket. But I could make one in an afternoon, using cheap and easily available parts.

As for the safety and reliability of the printed gun, I've seen at least one picture with a scorched and broken frame, so they do fail eventually. It's not meant to be a target pistol. :D

It worked in the video. Also, if you add a hole to slip a small laser pointer into, that would make the gun a hell of a lot more effective. You'll probably never even need to fire it.

It's amazing how intimidating a red dot on someone's chest is.

Yep, that's about right.  I've seen amateur rockets explode.  From a mile away, and I thought that was just about the right distance...

You miss the central issue in alleging capability, with risk.  The issue is that correctly engineered and field tested items and equipment have plans, and those plans can in many cases, be used to produce said item on a home 3d printer.  This is engineering, not guessing.  For example, if a item is to be made from one plastic and another was originally used (say we use ABS on the 3d unit, but it was originally Delrin) that is something that requires study and calculations.  Same for substitution of a plastic part for metal, etc.

ONE mistake is too many.  Let's not go down the wrong road here.  Check the bolded sentence above and remember we are very early in the popularization of this technology...

Well, first and foremost, thermoplastic is a poor choice for these sorts of applications. That said, a properly engineered and tested design, like the liberator pistol, could change a lot of things. A simple rocket body, a simple launch tube, and a cast nozzle (instead of plastic, print in wax and use the lost-wax method), and you're in business, aside from propellent and payload.

I still think the point of the Liberator being all plastic was more for show, to demonstrate that you could make an entire gun just from the 3D printer. If, or rather when, this gets picked up by other developers who start tweaking it, I wouldn't be surprised if a "useful" mass production version of it will be full of easy to find store-bought parts. I'm still curious how much more effective and safe this gun would be if the barrel was designed to hold and reinforce a hollow, cheap aluminum rod, for instance.

Terribly unsafe, since AL (1) softens when heated above a couple hundred F and loses most of it's strength (2) work hardens when repeatedly stressed.  So the end of the barrel which got the heat, softened, and the end that got the stress, split apart.  

Like I said, the way this should work can be understood as follows.  Suppose you own a shooting range in a locality that allows such things.  Someone walks in and wants to shoot one of these things.  What do you do?

The problem with this scenario, of the plastic gun is simply that there may be a legitimate public safety concern over it's production.  By contrast, I mentioned the Anti_Al_Gore 3d printed showerhead.  That is obviously contrary to the federal law governing max flow from a shower, but it isn't going to maim or kill anyone. 

Keep in mind that other 3d printers certainly do print in metal, many types of metal.  Those are more expensive units and will likely not be in everybody's garage.  But that's no different than computer printers.  There has always been a market for home printers, a separate market for business printers and service bureaus which handle the specialized jobs for anyone who needs them done.

Well, besides aluminum tubes, my local Home Depot and Lowes also has stainless steel tubes, as well as tube shaped steel spacers for bolts/nuts, and a slew of other crap. I'm sure once people start tinkering, they'll figure it out.
Thanks for the info on the Al tubes btw.

You knew it wouldn't take long

(Fabbaloo blog) California state senator Leland Yee says 3D printers must be regulated (http://fabbaloo.com/blog/2013/5/15/3d-printers-banned.html)

Only the police should have rocks.

How does one regulate a home-made RepRap? Someone should make a LOTR-themed quickmeme about this.

Ask, and ye shall receive.
http://qkme.me/3ufhti

Maybe some kind soul will print a clue for Mr. Yee.

Wait, so we can print bongs on demand, our choice of shape and size now?

Yeee HAW!!!

Um.
Thermoplastic.
Probably a bad idea.

Edit: Thingiverse is, of course, way ahead of us on this:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:25491
You just need one non-printed piece.

Of course. Bongs are often just plastic or glass. They just have to hold water. Only the part where weed is burned needs to be metal, and I've seen those funnel-shaped parts get swapped around between different bongs easily.

thingverse is kinda cool.  thanks!

The same way they regulate growing pot at home: if they find one in your possession and you don't have the needed paperwork, they confiscate it and destroy it. And you go to jail.

Medical 3D printer anybody? I need it for my prosthesis

Except growing pot produces a noticeable heat signature, and sucks up a lot of juice. 3D printers are tiny, use very little power, and give off almost no heat, even in operation (certainly not enough to attract the attention of law enforcement).

3D printers produce a repetitive noise that you can probably pick up with a mike from the street (ever heard of radar detector detectors? They work by picking up the specific frequencies that leak from the detector). And unless you use PLA, the ABS stinks. And it gives me a headache so we run the machines with the windows open.

Anyways, even if detection is more difficult (yes you have a point), the possession can still be made illegal.

Useless move of course, but then again most things they try to regulate are stupid laws difficult to implement

Yes, but... http://qkme.me/3ufhti ;)

Unfortunately stupid stunts like this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323158/How-Mail-On-Sunday-printed-plastic-gun-UK--took-board-Eurostar-stopped-security-scandal.html

will create enough attention from the wrong kinds of legislators

In the words of The Pirate Bay, "Bring it."

Laws are just words on paper. Enforcement is a lot harder, and these things can build themselves.

What's all this about 3d printing pistols and small stuff.  Why not think big.  Like, really big.  The printer doesn't care.

https://www.google.com/search?q='star+wars+walker'&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS489US489&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=RVCVUe_YDJLqqAH21YCwBQ&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=1367&bih=680

I just want a printer that can print more printers.

It's like having unlimited wishes, except you have to pay for the materials involved :P

Actually, a large number of the parts can be replicated, then you buy some stuff that ought to be bought rather than made, and put one together. 

For example, highly polished stainless steel rods and brass sintered bearings ought to be bought, instead of inferior substitutes made.  The stepper motors, threaded rods, limit sensors, sd card reader, and the little computer are going to be bought, not made.  There isn't anything complicated about the plastic extruder style 3d printers.

Last name origins & meanings:

German: unexplained.
North German (Schümer): nickname from Middle Low German schumer ‘good-for-nothing’, ‘vagabond’.

http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/schumer (http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/schumer)
http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/feinstein (http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/feinstein)

Wow.... no. Absolutely not. Schumer is likely German, Dutch, etc. And I would bet money Feinstein is German. And Jewish.

Seriously? Italian? You've got to be fucking kidding. Peroni... Albergati... Martinelli.. Bressan..Da Vinci.. Medici... Corleone.. that is what an Italian name sounds like

It's Jewish.  They're Jews.  That's why all they ever do is oppose freedom, sell America out to foreigners and give tax money to banks and insurance companies.

Jews are behind gun control. (http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-gun-control/)

Home made handguns are boring. They are not that much more effective than a knife or an axe. But handguns are only the beginning.

When people start to print armed helicopter drones, things are going to get interesting.

In a rare moment of sanity, DHS released a statement yesterday saying that it would be difficult to regulate 3d weapon printing or 3d printing in general.  I noticed that this news has not appeared on most "news" websites.  Use this search at Google and pick a website to see more: DHS cannot regulate 3d printing

No way, that could never happen!

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:36752

wait....

Darn!  Those evil jooooooeeess!  They hate guns!  They want to take guns away!
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01546/bikini-gun-girl_1546417a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4425657/Israeli-soldier-on-the-beach-in-a-bikini-holding-a-gun.html&h=592&w=532&sz=78&tbnid=CkL3ksBIeftFYM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=81&zoom=1&usg=__YZGs5ic7Xwo1HZdXfYgQBYGPIa8=&docid=0jx_D1EHQCC9FM&sa=X&ei=5ICfUarLN4n_qwG92YGAAQ&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAA&dur=4918

Wait...

IMHO, the U.S. government is concerned that trying to "control" the distribution of 3D printers or plans is more of a 1rst amendment problem than a 2nd. They will do what they always do. Try to regulate the distribution of materials supplied in the 3D printer "ink cartridges."

Yep, they want to take your gun whilst keeping there own

I'm not a good shot. Personally, I think before any home invaders get past our two English Mastiffs we keep inside because they are our other "kids," the police will have responded to our call and the operator will be on the phone asking us to put the dogs up so the officers can take an incident report. I will stipulate that the care and feeding of the "kids" is probably more expensive than handgun practice and maintenance. Hey! 3D printed dog food! hmm...(grin)

http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page

Of course it only makes some of its own parts, but that is a start.

Why go half way. 

Don't be timid. 

It's ookay.

3D PRINTED DOGS! 

Hell, yeah!!!

I can't find the pattern for that. Besides, only if it prints puppies. Can you imagine the cost of printing full grown English Mastiffs? (grin)

They are the best.  I seriously started to buy a couple, but then didn't.  Got to worrying about how to fit the couches in by the TV.  And also, how to get them to a vet if they got sick or old and it was necessary to carry them.  Looked like a job for about four guys and a pickup.

What you could seriously print would be dog toys....have to check on plastics compatibility with dog digestion, of course.

One of the 3D printer plastic "ink" choices available is corn starch based biodegradable plastic. It's a bit more expensive though.

If you refer to PLA, please don't use that for animal toys, the material is very brittle and if chewed on, chips will break off and will end up in the digestive track causing all sorts of problems.

ABS (which having toxic fumes that cause cancer) is a better choice.

Actually I think 3D printers are another very disruptive technology, especially the medical applications.

That's too tame.  Let's consider how they may be disruptive against the nazi forces of political correctness and insane government micromanagement of ouir personal lives.

I've noted showerheads without flow restrictors, designed and printed to provide high output.

The topic of the thread is of course, 3d printed guns.

What else?

Who needs China anymore when I can just print those cute little figurines.  Anyway, has anyone considered how many jobs will be lost to these things?

Wait.....

You mean China isn't going to own us?

You can cause a lot more problem by just looking at real world example like this:

http://blackbag.nl/?p=940

You can take pictures of peoples keyrings and print their keys

Stupid 19th century technology caught up by a $600 printer....

Handcuff keys, that's a good one.  I agree the extrusion printer would do it.  It would not likely do 5 and 6 pin Schlage or Quickset style locks, although those can certainly be duplicated by a camera picture.

Keys is just an examples, there a more items where we trust them because we know the production or sales is restricted, for example police badges on a uniform.

Then the GREAT DISRUPTER is ebay.

Hail the Overlord of Distruption!

Traditional government restrictions involve catching counterfeit/illegal goods at the boarder or clamping down on local production and distribution (sale), does not matter if it's on flea markets, shops or ebay. Silk Road is an example of how to get around it but then still the postal system is the weak channel where packages do get checked (and not always at the boarder).

But if people are empowered to make whatever things at home (with easy to use equipment that you can run on your desk, not a workshop with lathes and such)  without any government control, then that is a whole new dilemma.

Indeed if you have the power to fabricate any spare part simply by downloading a cad from a database its a whole new ball game.
The secondary market would be seriously affected. Example, a washing machine door handle (know in-build failure point) cost of production a few cents sells for 10-20.
The other thing the service centre would not need to store it as it can manufacture as needed. No prefabrication and storage required.
At the same time, will it be the same dilemma as with current printers where you a forced to use expensive cartridges?
Not only for illegal stuff this printers will change the way things are done.

True.

Another interesting one (There is a reason I pick this particular example).  Car window rollup mechanisms have usually something like a worm gear and a linear gear which work together, along with the motor and the mounting frame.  I used to have some Volvos and every now and then shelled out $350-400 for one of these units.  Of course it was often just the plastic stuff that was broken.

No longer have Volvos, but about the time I switched from them, one of the service managers told me that the newer cars you had to buy the entire interior guts of the door when this problem occurred - some $1500.

So this is an example of "packaging" so as to create a major income producing item, when a tiny subassembly is all that is really needed.  There are many examples of this.

Lol they will never get rid of printed guns.

It's time to go after civil rights violators, like you, Herr Schumer.

Better, just print ...

wait.... pssst <<don't tell anyone, keep this just between us, okay??>>

....just print up a replacement Schumer that behaves properly and insert in DC...

A Schumer that behaves properly (not violating the fuck out of civil rights) would be replaced with an even worse bloody tyrant.

When 3D printers could print such idiots as Schumer then it is time to go after those printers! Until then it's nobodys business what I do with items I have unless I start running around and hurting other people.