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Hello, Nice description by the way, but I would like to know, did the purpose of this Coin is just to sell a domain? or it's something else, I've read the post but still have doubt of what I understand about it.

this is just impractical and inconclusive in the long run!

"After we have all informations, it will take up to 12 hours until you get your nametokens (mostly less)."


After my investment, i sent 2 Emails , but i did not get any feedback ....

wait wait ....

Hi Marto,
please pm me your email address. As far as I know we replied to all emails.
So far all transactions went fine. Please let me know when you sent your mails.

BR,
Jens

After reading it, i found some disturbing issues...

Page 5: Hosting >> why are you talking about 'domaincoin' over here??
Page 6: Earn domaincoins >> ehm,,, again?
Page 7: Earn profit shares >> again, why are you talking about 'domaincoins' over here??????

Hi Mr. dutch

First of all sorry for my late answer to this posting.

There is a simple explanation...we earlier used the name domaincoin but after the decision to use ethereum blockchain it makes sense to use the brand nametoken instead, you know.

Sorry that there were still some mistakes on the website/whitepaper - should now be fixed.

If you have further questions you can write me anytime.

best regards

Frank

well its interesting to watch whether this coin will reach its target audience as we seen a lots of ico got started and its always depend
how the community support particular project, by the way do you have any plan for any bounties as I wonder most of the coin project
create their own.

ok, thank you.
How can i make visible the tokens on myetherwallet ?

my email is 3-4 days ago... No answer , nothing... What for ICO ;))))

1.
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Hi .
Thanks for your email.
We'll get get back to you as soon as possible!
Here's a summary of your message:
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Name
Mart

Email Address
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2.
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Please also Reply to this email, once you sent the coins.
We will then give you further instructions on how to get NAT to your ETH Wallet.

After we have all informations, it will take up to 12 hours until you get your nametokens (mostly less).
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... up to 12 hours :)))))))))))))))))))))))

Ok, wait 4 -5 days now for further instructions ....

Why can't you just use protocol projects like district0x to actually open a decentralized domain market? Or why would you need tokens at all?

Seems just like another project where tokens are practically useless.

hello dev you open ico selling without open bounty dev
or iam wrong, because this thread not write link about bounty

Hey Mart, I just sent you a PM, since I haven't heard anything from you yet. Please get this issue solved ;)

YES , Thank YOU!! Received...

There's no such thing as "decentralised domain eco system", domain names have central entities that manage them.

Huge red flag, bonus system, first buyers will dump on late buyers, bonus schemes incentive people to dump as soon as they can.

Often started a week, the site ICO data is shown as 0. ???
Domain name investment returns and other information given in detail
Return cycle is too long, or we do not understand the domain name investment.
 ???

If ICO has started, How much fund already collected till now? Where we can track the activity?

I love projects that are not too crowded at the beginning. In my opinion - they seem to be the best gains at the end. Will watch this and maybe also invest a bit :P

@Team - please also keep us updated on here - what is going on behind the scenes - that would be awesome as I mainly watch threads here and not on other forums or communication tools.

hello dev you open ico selling without open bounty dev
or iam wrong, because this thread not write link about bounty

The team has over 20 years experience in the domain trading business and in developing different applications. The founders have traded domains worth of several million USD. Furthermore they realized ecommerce projects that generated several million USD of sales.

Unsold ICO tokens will be stored in a fund to give rewards for using Mobile App. How? This means that if I buy a domain trough Mobile App I earn a "% cashback"? Or we will earn NAT only trough voting?

Not really understand the purpose of token for your business.
You are not the first, who tried this.
Will be watching this thread ...

Had a little research on the website.
Is there a whitepaper with all the information? I cant find it. It would be easier to really understand this project.

I saw on the roadmap that the start of the first application is plannend Q4 2017.
Can you explain how the application will work?

Thanks for the answers.

Best regards

Yeah i was wondering the same thing, though my guess would be that cashback is earned for buying a domain. Me personally, i prefer when unused token are burnt, its easier to account for the remaining tokens.

Apparently also for listing, parking and registering domain. So I get NAT token when I register a domain on nametoken and more NAT when I sell it ???. And what parking it means? It means that I register a new domain on nametoken but if don't wanna sell it, I'm parking it (and earn NAT for that)? Oh well, if the answer is yes it's a good thing

Now we've got a good looking ICO. Knowledgeable team and a clear path to follow. It's a shame the OP is so short in information but the website is pretty clarifying. Will read the white paper later.

Seems like interesting and new project in crypto. Where is your company from? Germany? (I seen than you have working businees in germany  - Druckerpatronen)  ???

I have bought and registered a lot of domains in my days. You state that a buyer will save a lot in fees by using Nat, but there is one thing I do not get(that is kind of the whole thing), why is it cheaper by using NAT? Everything does not beacome cheaper by just putting it on a block chain:)

My guess is the personnels are from various parts of the world, but the location listed on their white paper is in Seychelles.

Many sites that have your kind of service, also have some kind of auctions to get some domains sold/ get higher prices. Will you also have anything like that to drive the prices up, or is that not a part of your model?

Well, Seychelles are a fiscal paradise, so quite normal that they are listed there, that's just to pay less taxes.

It would be cool to have access to the linkedIn of the team and to know have a little more info about them  :)

I see, that they have 50% + bonus now. Its pre-sale or token sale already? Is there some minimum requiremens? or I can invest any fund now?

You can find theme on linkedIN, I can see that first project of namecoin founder was Menzemedia.de (I'm not german but I guess it's some sort of site to push advertising?) and main developer Sebastian Festor also worked there. At least they have a lot of experience together

"Invest now before stock exchange and get 50% bonus token"

So the bonus is for the ICO, there don't seems to be any pre-sale.

Nametoken Bonus System
Up to 50% bonus for early birds!

You can find theme on linkedIN, I can see that first project of namecoin founder was Menzemedia.de (I'm not german but I guess it's some sort of site to push advertising?) and main developer Sebastian Festor also worked there. At least they have a lot of experience together

Now ICO Nametoken(NAT) is running, and will end on September 30th, anyone knows how many tokens are sold up to now?

So they are from Germany? or... ? And where is their company registered?  8) ???

domain media ltd
H2871 / P1523
Sorento / Glacis
Victoria, Mahe, Seychelles

i didnt find current conter of their website...
only bar progress.. and its less than 1000 BTC now..

Hello, nice project there.

So you have experience in domain investment.

Your system works with a domain appraisal algorithm ?

What does it mean exactly, if I'm looking for a domain you'll find a corresponding one to my needs (name, .net or .com etc ? )

Yeah, I also have searched for a counter, but there is none yet. Maybe devs will put one on the site now, because ppl are asking for one :D Would be great to see how the progress is currently.

Yes we work with an automatic algorithm but the really interesting results will be generated through human rating and data maintenance through our app.

br

Frank

auctions will be nice... like Sedo  ::)
Domain business growing very fast.. and China buying a lot of domain for their project. So some domain can cost much more, than their regular price..

And second question, you say that we can earn nametoken for data maintenance ? Could you explain please ?

Yeah, I also have searched for a counter, but there is none yet. Maybe devs will put one on the site now, because ppl are asking for one :D Would be great to see how the progress is currently.

Yes this is one option to earn nametoken...there will be many more in the future.
Data maintenance means that you can rate domains, place them in categories, place tags and so on. We will use this data, weight it in relation to you user rank(experience) and generate search results based on the combination of auto algorithm and user generated data.

I am buying domains at domain marketplaces for many years, i was even one of the first 20 customers of the largest marketplace.
The problem is that there are infinitely many domains listed and it is difficult to find the matching domains.

We would like to change that.

br

Frank

Unsold ICO tokens will be stored in a fund to give rewards for using Mobile App. How? This means that if I buy a domain trough Mobile App I earn a "% cashback"? Or we will earn NAT only trough voting?

As written whitepaper:
● Save thousands of fees on domain related transactions

So i guess there will be fees, but much lower than usual.

As written whitepaper:
● Save thousands of fees on domain related transactions

So i guess there will be fees, but much lower than usual.

If I get it right you wrote in your whitepaper that you want to burn 50% of the coins you earn in the trades. What will happen if the coins are getting less and less and the value will rise. At some point it will be too much maybe, don't you think so? Will there be a system like creating new ones or change current coins against a new one?

That is exactly the idea to increase the value of the token. I don't see a problem in the decreasing amount of tokens. It is very important for us that investors and users of the token are rewarded for buying/keeping their tokens for long term. There will be no new token in the future.

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Frank

That is exactly the idea to increase the value of the token. I don't see a problem in the decreasing amount of tokens. It is very important for us that investors and users of the token are rewarded for buying/keeping their tokens for long term. There will be no new token in the future.

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Frank

Some teams chose to do a swap token at one point. It allows buyers/keepers to be rewarded while making the number of tokens grows again. (A very high value token can make people fear it, even if they can just buy a share of it).

Is there by any chance a white paper for this startup?  ??? I am interested in this project, and I'm a little familiar with the domain business, but want to acquire a little more detail before I consider investing. Thanks

Is there by any chance a white paper for this startup?  ??? I am interested in this project, and I'm a little familiar with the domain business, but want to acquire a little more detail before I consider investing. Thanks

As written whitepaper:
● Save thousands of fees on domain related transactions

So i guess there will be fees, but much lower than usual.

Also you will probably save fees because you can do everything at one place and don't have to pay all the different provider, but not sure about this.
Maybe we can get more details about this.

The fees will be much lower than on other platforms. Nevertheless, due to the exceptional features, we will achieve an above-average return on the whole of various services. We will give more insights into our features over the next weeks.

br

Frank

The fees will be much lower than on other platforms. Nevertheless, due to the exceptional features, we will achieve an above-average return on the whole of various services. We will give more insights into our features over the next weeks.

br

Frank

Hi!
Interesting project. Noticed that 40% of revenue is going to be used in domains and 30% is for development.

What kind of domains are you going invest, any specific interest?
How about the development, what's going to be the first application?

Investment focus depends on final funding amount. Main application is the "marketplace" with many more features than the well-known market places. As i said there will be more insights in the features the next weeks.

If we are able to realize a high funding amount we will buy some interesting domains which are suitable for e-commerce projects, because we have already realized similar projects with several million income.

br

Frank

Sure, its on their website:  https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/08/nametoken_whitepaper-2.pdf (https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/08/nametoken_whitepaper-2.pdf)

That is exactly the idea to increase the value of the token. I don't see a problem in the decreasing amount of tokens. It is very important for us that investors and users of the token are rewarded for buying/keeping their tokens for long term. There will be no new token in the future.

br

Frank

I cant find any similar project too, it very cool, nametoken will take more value on a big market if it in monopol situation.
It think they will make the whitepaper more visible soon, they said that they will communicate more features in few days and upgrade the whitepaper maybe. It would be very nice for new comers. All new investors take a look to the white paper to have an idea at least of the concept.

I remember only one old - Namecoin (NMC) - but this is mining old coin... without perspective...
Its still live?  ::)

I've been buying and selling domain names since 1997, and it has been a rather good journey so far.

Companies like Sedo have been doing a great domain marketplace, so I think a decentralized system might be rather successfull.

Joining the ico in a few moments!

You're right, sedo and its competitors making a good chunk of money with domain parking, auctions, selling etc.

Hello dev, it will be really good if you put the whitepaper link on your thread.

And for everyone who interested in this project, i suggest this link : https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/nametoken/
They got really good information there

are you planning to keep your token on ethereum blockchain or you're going to move to your own blockchain? Or move to other chains like NAV when they will they deploy anon smart contracts, don't know why but I'm keep thinking that in domains marketplace anonanimity could be a nice addition

I have a question about the case study.

The founder of Nametoken has bought the domain name “druckerpatronen.de” (ink cartridges) a few years ago as a domain investment.

The domain has been developed and is now one of the largest online shops for printer cartriges in Germany.

Did the founder develop the business behind druckerpatronen.de too, or did he sell the domain name to a 3rd party who then developed the site?

If it's the prior case, then I do not see how the case study is relevant. Owning the domain name and actually developing a business on that domain are very different things and require completely different skillsets. Is the success owed to the domain name or the business skills of the developer?

I wonder because some parked domain names without any business attached to them have been sold for astronomical amounts of money too.

Hello dev, what is the amount of investment that has been collected up to now? and what is the minimum amount to invest here?

About hosting, you declared that files will be stored in a decentralized cloud, you have your own tech for that or you collborate with emerging tech like sia and storj?

What does it mean "parking" a domain ?

When did the idea develope to include a cryptocurrency your Project? Was it, when you realize how easy it is to collect money with this form of crowdfunding, or was it the technology itself?

Mate, read white paper and then judge! ICOs are like start-ups. They need money for development and it most cases price of tokens rises couple hundreds %

Nametoken will allow to host any kind of site even the ones with illegal content on them?

I don't think he is judging the project. He is probably just curious about if the possibility of using the block chain technology has been the main reason for starting the project here or just because it is also a good and easy way to crowdfund a project :)

Yeah, the question is interesting. I would like to know too how the founders learned about blockchains and cryptocurrencies  :)

Why would they host sites?

I suppose that is part of the value proposition when Nametoken talk about decentralized domain eco system. But there are indeed not too many details to be found about both the technical and legal aspects.

https://i.imgur.com/04futzI.png

For example, what is the use-case for splitting the files instead of mirroring? Why are the files encrypted on the cloud system and published at the same time?

...

Wait a minute, are we talking about file hosting services rather than website hosting? That changes the topic quite a bit!

I'm not judging the project. Both reasons are legit, but I'm interested in it, since the defs are not seeming like the typical crypto enthusiasts (I've allready read the whitepaper). I mean, the idea of crowdfunding with crypto is a good one, since "normal" people have the chance to participate.

So did we get an answer about the actual fees other than they will be lower that other markets?
I would like to know the actual percentage, because its not mentioned in whitepaper.

I wanted to get a more concrete overview of the planned distribution of money so I went ahead and put the numbers into the calculator.

The total supply is 98,000,000 NAT at a rate of 1 NAT = 0.00025 BTC (now ~$1) for a max. total worth of 24,500 BTC.

The Nametoken ICO is looking to raise up to 20,200 BTC in the token sale. Unsold tokens are burned.

https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/07/timeline_grey.png

Let's say the ICO raises 10,000 BTC, that is about 35 million EUR.

The tokens are planned to be distributed as follows:

https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/07/icd.png

90% of the tokens were put on sale (32M EUR), reserving 3% for Advisory/Legal (1.5M EUR) and 7% for Team (2.5M EUR).

https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/07/iuor.jpg

30% of the revenue is used for Development (9.5M EUR), 10% for Operations (3M EUR), 2% for Legal (0.6M EUR).

If I got this correctly, I wonder why some of the expenditures are percentage-based instead of an estimated flat fee, such as the legal fees, development and operations. Let's say you raise 3.5 million EUR instead, will 10% be sufficient to cover the legal fees/development? Or vice versa, what purpose does the additional 90% in legal fees/development serve if you raise 35M EUR?

wow nice work.

i think the legal fee will be accumulated later onwards the funds they rised :)

neverthless, i will buy some coins at the sale and get ready for a pump, until the end of the year:)

I wanted to get a more concrete overview of the planned distribution of money so I went ahead and put the numbers into the calculator.

The total supply is 98,000,000 NAT at a rate of 1 NAT = 0.00025 BTC (now ~$1) for a max. total worth of 24,500 BTC.

The Nametoken ICO is looking to raise up to 20,200 BTC in the token sale. Unsold tokens are burned.

https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/07/timeline_grey.png

Let's say the ICO raises 10,000 BTC, that is about 35 million EUR.

The tokens are planned to be distributed as follows:

https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/07/icd.png

90% of the tokens were put on sale (32M EUR), reserving 3% for Advisory/Legal (1.5M EUR) and 7% for Team (2.5M EUR).

https://www.nametoken.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2017/07/iuor.jpg

30% of the revenue is used for Development (9.5M EUR), 10% for Operations (3M EUR), 2% for Legal (0.6M EUR).

If I got this correctly, I wonder why some of the expenditures are percentage-based instead of an estimated flat fee, such as the legal fees, development and operations. Let's say you raise 3.5 million EUR instead, will 10% be sufficient to cover the legal fees/development? Or vice versa, what purpose does the additional 90% in legal fees/development serve if you raise 35M EUR?

Yeah, think that too, the legal fees will be accumulated later.
@SEELE^^01: buying coins, just to wait for a pump isnt that good for the project. Furthermore it only helps the wales. Be smart and hold for the long run. This ist a Project with a real usecase, believe in your Investment.

I don't really see how it would work.

Let's say that I have a website where I give advices on investments in cryptocurrencies. I want a good domain name.

What exactly will be the procedure with your application and what will be the benefits from usinng it ?

On which exchange you planned to add this token and when will you add this to an exhange, i'm not in a hurry, i'm just excited to know about the exchanges. Just beware yobit, this coin will die there.

Of course we are in contact with all the major exchanges. We want to be at the top exchanges like polo and kraken.

wow polo would be a nice venue for small and big traders and how about bittrex are you are also planning to request for listing this coin from
that exchange as I also wanted to see this project inside this exchange though pnd groups are there and waiting for new project to ride with.

Of course we are in contact with all the major exchanges. We want to be at the top exchanges like polo and kraken.

Interesting question ;)
The thing you are looking for is just a very small part about our system.

but here is an example:

1. you are looking for a crypto related domain
2. on our marketplace you open this as a task. brand finding for your needs. you describe what you are looking for.
3. you set an amount of NAT that you want to pay for this task (if you have success getting this domain)
4. now other members can come up with suggestions of either still free domain names or domain names that are for sale. you can also check, what user rang the members at least have to have in order to make suggestions to you.

these are the first steps. but it goes further. later you can book other services. for example if a domain is for sale, you can "book" domain brokers to get you the best price (or you do the sale yourself). or if the domain is too expensive, you can do a crowdfund request, where multiple people can buy this domain and get shares on the domain name.

there are much more possibilities. we are currently working on a blog series with the core features. i will update this thread with news from there.

BR,
Jens

The white paper is a good, the proposed idea has potential but i would like to see an active presence before investing my btc. If we barely getting a response during the ICO phase, i can only imaginethe form of ghosting we will have to deal with post ico. Just saying. Get someone to stay active and answer question/give updates on your thread.
Am yet to receive an answer on how they intend to pay to park  domains on their website, when other website charge a fee

That are the biggest exchanges: polo, kraken, bittrex, ...
It's really not so easy to get on these exchanges. Think you have more succes to add this token on a small exchange, build up a community and make sure you get the volume.

But I like the ambition!
I really hope this ICO will be a succes! Fingers crossed! :D

Interesting question ;)
The thing you are looking for is just a very small part about our system.

but here is an example:

1. you are looking for a crypto related domain
2. on our marketplace you open this as a task. brand finding for your needs. you describe what you are looking for.
3. you set an amount of NAT that you want to pay for this task (if you have success getting this domain)
4. now other members can come up with suggestions of either still free domain names or domain names that are for sale. you can also check, what user rang the members at least have to have in order to make suggestions to you.

these are the first steps. but it goes further. later you can book other services. for example if a domain is for sale, you can "book" domain brokers to get you the best price (or you do the sale yourself). or if the domain is too expensive, you can do a crowdfund request, where multiple people can buy this domain and get shares on the domain name.

there are much more possibilities. we are currently working on a blog series with the core features. i will update this thread with news from there.

BR,
Jens

yeah that sounds a bit too ambituos! anyway, I think first it's good to develop a nice marketplace, and then value and exchange markets will follow...

How do you intend to pay individual's to park domains on your website, when other sites charge for it. It's akin to a fitness trainer paying me to help me work out. Am really curious on how this model will be utilized to earn a profit. ppl will create multitude of domains just to earn NATS from it

Thank you for the answer, that's really interesting.

Maybe you sjould put example of use in your whitepaper, your thread or your website.

I don't know anything about the domains market, but with your answers I begin to understand little by little the possibilities  :)

I think that's a nice project, and cryptocurrencies are an opportunity for "classic markets", good think you're one the fist to do it in this market.

How do you intend to pay individual's to park domains on your website, when other sites charge for it. It's akin to a fitness trainer paying me to help me work out. Am really curious on how this model will be utilized to earn a profit. ppl will create multitude of domains just to earn NATS from it

There are companys like bodis/voodoo/sedo where you can park your domain and they redirect to advertisements. I think something like that will it be.

Hmm. Right.

so what s about? buying a customized web domain with cryptocurrency and maybe resell it after a few years with a great gain...i am right?

Smart to chose a sector where there is a 100% change of the scarcity of good domains increasing and thus the value as well. I never really thought about it, but that is a good business strategy!

so what s about? buying a customized web domain with cryptocurrency and maybe resell it after a few years with a great gain...i am right?

Its like a trading and you have to make sure that you buy a domain whose price will go up  ;)

When did the idea develope to include a cryptocurrency your Project? Was it, when you realize how easy it is to collect money with this form of crowdfunding, or was it the technology itself?

I have a question about the case study.

The founder of Nametoken has bought the domain name “druckerpatronen.de” (ink cartridges) a few years ago as a domain investment.

The domain has been developed and is now one of the largest online shops for printer cartriges in Germany.

Did the founder develop the business behind druckerpatronen.de too, or did he sell the domain name to a 3rd party who then developed the site?

If it's the prior case, then I do not see how the case study is relevant. Owning the domain name and actually developing a business on that domain are very different things and require completely different skillsets. Is the success owed to the domain name or the business skills of the developer?

I wonder because some parked domain names without any business attached to them have been sold for astronomical amounts of money too.

Are you going perform function as domain registrar? If yes, you have lisence already? Also you planning to provide a hosting?  ::)

so what is the max number of tokens you offer and what is the mentioned bonus system
of the market place app?

There seems like there's a few flaws in the premise behind this project...

Our primary focus is the domain marketplace with all its features. Later we will work on hosting, since I believe decentralized hosting will get very important.
Regarding registry: Since we run a really huge domain portfolio already, we have great conditions at some registrars. So this is currently not our priority. But we will definately consider this part as well.

Why would they host sites?

What about price for different register zones? (for foreign country?) If I want to buy german domain, and my friend (from another country) want to buy domain German domain also - price will be same?

nice question the price of domains will be the same if buyers are from different countries?

Why such a long period of fundraising? Do you doubt the success of your project?

I have not found any indication in the material, that it would be a different price, just depending from where you would buy. Based on my experience of buying a domain was, that it was a dollar price list, and pricing was depending on whether a domain ended e.g. with .com (higher price) or a less common ending. I guess it will be similar here.

Why such a long period of fundraising? Do you doubt the success of your project?

Why such a long period of fundraising? Do you doubt the success of your project?

I do not understand the need of another coin here.
If I want to buy a domain I could simply use FIAT and I think it is also possible to buy domains by BTC etc.

Or to put in another words: If we create for each product a coin we would come to PizzaCoins and BurgerCoins.

However a token for a service like a domain name does make more sense.

Why? If I want to pay by FIAT or BTC I could simply do this.
If I want to pay by NAT, I have to install another NAT-Wallet, have to make Backups of it, store the passphrase, have to convert BTC into NAT and afterwards I can pay.
This is to much effort if you just buy one domain every two years. Of course, if you buy domains every day it would be better.

Guys, hello everyone! I take part in the bounty in social networks (slack, facebook and twitter). Registered in them a few days ago, but still did not appear in the Google table. I sent the application again - to no avail.
  Tell me who to contact to solve this problem.
P.S. For English is strictly not to judge, I'm from Belarus :D

Hi there,
did you already get help from our team member? If not, please PM me.

it seems from last week there was no update on the website.
I wondering how many tokens have been sold.

I just saw a facebook advertisement about  nametoken and it is such a good move companies and projects who wants to reach more people are using facebook ads for wide reach I;m sure people are noticing nametoken now.

It appears on every slack, it's a phishing site don't write/enter your private key there or you gonna lose your ether

I am aware that this is fishing site.
What do you mean it appears on every slack?
Why does it have these names?

Yes Indeed :). Are you already in our campaign ?

I do not understand the need of another coin here.
If I want to buy a domain I could simply use FIAT and I think it is also possible to buy domains by BTC etc.

Or to put in another words: If we create for each product a coin we would come to PizzaCoins and BurgerCoins.

may be you need to update information in the page,
how many token sold, how much fund rised so other people can see the running of this project

How can I manually add this token ?  Address ? Decimals ?

bounty ??? ??? :-[

Yes this is good for transparency and will generate goodwill and confidence for the project anyway it's still a long way before the ico is finished but with the marketing we've had, I'm sure this is going to be a huge success.

Concept is good

And currently at 50% Bonus but it is less than 1000 BTC invested

I Checked on this : https://etherscan.io/address/0x22467d25320dDA37f254B0f56309c2BCe673bA62

But it shows $0 now

Whats the total invested value now?

until now nothing update of the information about that in their website, I think not seriously to in working on a project, transparency is the main thing in doing business especially a big project like this

If you have an active facebook, they are well promoted in facebook ads they are coming up a lot of articles why you invest in nametoken, the dev is quite busy in the promotion so some questions are not answered here, it's much better to pm him for important questions regarding nametoken.

Above did not see the answer! How much money has been collected so far?

Above did not see the answer! How much money has been collected so far?

how many tokens are sold now

Why is this ANN thread so silent when the ICO is currently going on? I guess it is a must for ANN threads doing an ICO to somehow make sure that investors are updated with the latest news.

I see a NAT token on yobit exchange trading for much lower than the nametoken website. Please confirm that the NAT token on yobit is different from the one you guys are selling now in ICO?

and there are no any updates in socials. May be they no need advertisement through these channels.

ICO will end in 3 days, what is current status?

ICO will end in 3 days, what is current status?

Tomorrow is the last day Nametoken ICO. I hope it is doing well in selling Nametokens. I have not seen any figure as to how much is sold or whether the project is selling slow. I just hope with fingers crossed that this great project will be successful in their ICO.

Let us all believe in this brilliant project!

today is the last day of nametoken crowdsale. how much is earned from nametoken at this time?
does anyone know?

Could have checked https://yobit.net/en/coinsinfo/

NAT = NatureCoin

That the Dev they say about the bounty? When will be charged?

I checked the signature spreadsheet and it is already counted so we have to wait for a week or two before the distribution begins I hope the ico is a success I am fully supporting this coin because it has a good potential in the market, but I don't want this to scam exchange like Yobit.

I am now starting to smell some scammy air here. Hello! Anybody here? Are the devs still working here in Bitcointalk?

Hi everybody. Thank you very much for your participation in our ICO. Although we did not collect the expected funding, we collected enough in order to realize our project. We will keep you updated from time to time with news regarding nametoken.

I have sent an email to MenzeMedia.de 2 days ago asking about NameToken and received no response.

I think we got scammed.  ???

I have sent a message to mr Jens79 ...
and he said...
as we all known...he was very busy in last of a few weeks to talking to the potential investor..
we just wait a bit...he will inform us as soon as possible...

Thanks...

Did you sent a PM to Jens79 through this forum? If so, how do you really know it is Jens Peterssen behind that name?

I sent an e-mail to the Frank Menze's business address and got no response at all.

Jens79's last post on this forum was August 28, 2017! Are you telling me he and his team of 12 others are so busy they are incapable of answering even a single question in 7 weeks?

The only other message since then is from mobi35, a bounty manager who calls himself Adrian and speaks Filipino, who is not in the Nametoken team, and who has no activity on this forum besides being a bounty manager for Nametoken. ???

Is the ICO still on?

I've invested in about 40 ICOs, the past couple of years  I hope this isn't the first scam I've invested in!  I'm finding it hard to believe they haven't had just a few minutes to spare, the past several weeks, to give investors some sort of update.  Anyway, the response that y4y4n8 got on LinkedIn offers a small glimmer of hope.

I have spoken with the ceo on linkedin. He told me they were busy with the listing and that they will give an update in the coming days :D

I have spoken with the ceo on linkedin. He told me they were busy with the listing and that they will give an update in the coming days :D

very good news, at least something,
but it was quiet at all, now we are waiting for the exchange, the tokens are all raped)
I very much hope that the project is honest and will fulfill the obligations to investors and bounties

I have found the same Symbol Nametoken with Naturecoin, please tell me if I am wrong, and when the market plan for this token?

I have found the same Symbol Nametoken with Naturecoin, please tell me if I am wrong, and when the market plan for this token?

I hope that this project get it's shit together and that developers start doing something. Otherwise we are victims of another crypto scam...

I have found the same Symbol Nametoken with Naturecoin, please tell me if I am wrong, and when the market plan for this token?

I notice it also ,cause when i tried to seach NAT to Btc  ,naturecoin appears ,the ticker is same as nametoken. Gonna wait for futher announcements and updates about exchange liating.

Distribution already finished but no update coming from the team on what exchange nametoken will be listed. Its a long long hold maybe,but i still have faith on nametoken.

Hello there !

We are currently working on the exchange so please bear with us.

Regards,

Adrian

Hello there !

We are currently working on the exchange so please bear with us.

Regards,

Adrian

After two months of silence, now i can't believe i heard something from the devs. I was sure it was a scam and still not sure is it scam or not. But at least a glympse of hope...

Hello there !

We are currently working on the exchange so please bear with us.

Regards,

Adrian

Thee month passed after crowdale! What about exchanges, develompent product? Devs want in prison?  >:(

Hello there !

We are currently working on the exchange so please bear with us.

Regards,

Adrian

Hmm well i have to say that i do see some activity in Etherscan. They transfered almost 495.000 tokens to a adress. Maybe an exchange?

Hmm well i have to say that i do see some activity in Etherscan. They transfered almost 495.000 tokens to a adress. Maybe an exchange?

It is ridiculous that they have time to answer questions through LinkedIn and are allegedly getting NAT on exchanges, but do not show any real communication, let alone any progress from whatever they are supposed to be developing.

Who cares about exchanges anyway at this point? The price will be 1 satoshi or lower because all trust is gone. Are they going to dump their own reserve to milk the last drop out of this?

guys , my nat tokens are reduced to behind the dot

at this moment i ow 0.0000000000000155 NAT ???  how is this possible ?

yes mine too wf happened previously i have  14148 NAT what i earned as bounty for signature campaign but now its only 0.000000000000014148 NAT
any explanation dev what happened and why.

Can you explain further mine still are intact    20,043 NAT, where did you get that your token was reduce have you checked it in etherscan, if the dev changes it all of us will have the same value, but mine still the same you need to check it again.

maybe we should give time to the developers, maybe they need a break after so long prepare this project. but not by just disappearing because we all also need news on its development

Its not a scam. They are just not really active on this forum or anywhere else. Tokens will be transferable within the first 8 Weeks after ICO.
 Now relax.

Actually our tokens evaporated from our wallets , instead of 700 tokens now I'm holding 0.00000000000000007 Nat tokens , mind explaining this ?

Still waiting for update coming from devs. They are still in silent mode after they made an update last october 24. Im thinking that were all scammed.

Lol yeah how hard is it to get listed at an ED for example? Every shitcoin gets listed nowadays.

I tried to get it listed on EtherDelta, but they need a token contract to be published on the nametoken.io main page. I sent them all the detailed about the project and NAT token, but it's not enough. They better list a sheetcoin which doesn't have any value than a really valuable token.

Agree with you.

What is suspicious?

From the beginning to the end, the team was absolutely not communicative. So that is nothing new. No response after the ico, everybody was expecting to receive nothing. Without an annoucement the distributed the bountys. They dont event count the bounty properly. This and other things tells me, that they dont really care about bitcointalk. They werent on btc before and they werent really active in the past couple of month.

They working and looking for private investors. If they Token will be transferable, there will be probably no annoucement...they will just do it.

Scam?
You mean collecting money and running away?
I doubt that. They are germans, living in germany, having a company in germany. As a german i could go easy to the next police station and report them.

And concerning the display "problem" of the Nat Tokens. The people should use a blockexplorer instead a wallet like MEW, just only because of security reasons.

You are talking like a scammer yourself. They have a responsibly towards their investors so why don't they just take it serious?

How about this Token? Is it have a price for now, and where I can exchange it?

Why you asking me? I dont know. I told you, their communication and project management is terrible, but i still think they are not scammers.
Lets see.

Looking for the manager of the bounty program.

He/She is not responding and not helping with my tokens, are there any other people that can help with this problem?


this is the message he/she asked me to send to help me fix this issue:



Hi manager, more than 10 days ago you asked me to send you the report of the missing tokens and until today I have not received any answer from you, why?

Here is the report again, could you please answer and fix this issue?
Thanks

Twitter should be: 3,920 NAT for all Twitter 7 weeks. MINUS 960 NAT received = 2,960 NAT missing.
Facebook should be: 4,655 NAT for all Facebook 7 weeks MINUS 2470 received = 2,185 NAT missing.
Total for both Twitter & Facebook missing = 5,145 NAT missing.

Twitter Details:
5 missing Twitter weeks  (35 stakes x week = 560 NAT x *5 weeks = 2800 NATS +160 NAT missing from first 2 weeks Twitter payment because I should get 70 stakes x 2 twitter weeks and got only 60!

Facebook details:
665 NAT * 3 missing weeks = 1,995 NATS + 190 NAT missing from first 2 weeks Facebook payment, because I should get 70 stakes x 2 fb weeks, and got only 60!

Plus not counting Slack and newsletter, just don't want to waste more time searching for that!
I am a supporter of this coin I bought some NAT coins.

So any updates yet?

I've invested a small amount of 2 LTC, at the time probably worth around $90 to see if this project would actually do anything. This granted me 197 NAT tokens which means it cost me roughly 46cts per token.

I'm now seeing posts of people who ran facebook and twitter "campaigns" during the ICO which should have earned them 8,500 NAT! That would mean roughly $3,800 would be distributed to a lot of people that really haven't put that much effort into it.

If the Nametoken team actually distributes these bounties and if they really have collected a small amount of money from investors the price of 1 NAT will be worthless.

At this point I'd rather have the team to be honest and credit all investors instead of actually coming forth with the NAT on exchanges as a shitcoin (yes, I said it, please prove me wrong).

I just took five minutes out of my life to comment on the whole situation. It would suit the NAT team to do the same.

Same i invested a small amount (0.2 ETH) and got like like 60 NAT. At first i thought people made a typo, but it turns out that the bounty reward is soo high that 1 NAT is prob worth nothing after the token gets listed. Everybody dumps IMMEDIATELY.

We finally have good news from Nametoken Team! They managed to collect the needed amount of money to continue developing the project. The team is working hard now to get NAT token listed on several exchanges. They are alse searching for more people to join their team in order to work on their prototype. The prototype will be presented at the end of January on the Namescon in Las Vegas.
Read more updates on their official website.

It’s been 3 weeks now since our ICO ended, and due to a lot of work we didn’t have the time to update you with news. So I want to take this as chance to update you.

1. Nametoken’s ICO
Although we weren’t able to collect our “wished” amount, we are very satisfied with the results. We are optimistic that we can build a great domain ecosystem from the funding we received. In the last days of our ICO we gave out a special bonus, which helped us collecting the funds that are needed in order to continue. So, yes: We will continue 😉

2. Upcoming stuff
If you think that an ICO is a lot of work and after that it gets more relaxed, I have to disappoint you. Right now we are building relations with all possible exchange platforms in order to get Nametoken published there. We are very optimistic that we will get placed on a few platforms, so that you can trade your NAT there.
Other than that we are searching for more people for our DEV team in order to work on our prototype. We are planning to present this prototype at the end of January on the Namescon in Las Vegas. Thanks to our Advisor Soeren we receive a platform that helps us spreading the word about Nametoken.

That is all so far. Please be patient. We will update you weekly / biweekly with our progress from now on, so that you are close to the things that we do at Nametoken.

Best Regards,
Jens

Its a new update. Hope the communication will be better now. Since the prototype will come january , i will definetely keep my tokens till then.
bounty dumpers will sell it probably for a pointless price. a good chance to get in cheap. after this the price should be stable and get a push when the prototype will be released.

The last time they talked about weekly/biweekly updates we had to wait for a month. I'm not seeing any news here, they've been working on getting listed for a while now.

They should really work on their communication, especially multi-platform seeing they have a Twitter, Reddit, Bitcointalk account etc.

Their Slack is also really quiet.

If that is the case then I will hold my coin

Its a new update. Hope the communication will be better now. Since the prototype will come january , i will definetely keep my tokens till then.
bounty dumpers will sell it probably for a pointless price. a good chance to get in cheap. after this the price should be stable and get a push when the prototype will be released.

I've invested a small amount of 2 LTC, at the time probably worth around $90 to see if this project would actually do anything. This granted me 197 NAT tokens which means it cost me roughly 46cts per token.

I'm now seeing posts of people who ran facebook and twitter "campaigns" during the ICO which should have earned them 8,500 NAT! That would mean roughly $3,800 would be distributed to a lot of people that really haven't put that much effort into it.

If the Nametoken team actually distributes these bounties and if they really have collected a small amount of money from investors the price of 1 NAT will be worthless.

At this point I'd rather have the team to be honest and credit all investors instead of actually coming forth with the NAT on exchanges as a shitcoin (yes, I said it, please prove me wrong).

I just took five minutes out of my life to comment on the whole situation. It would suit the NAT team to do the same.

Is the NAT team also on the same path of Confido??

https://cointelegraph.com/news/confido-ico-raises-340k-vanishes

It will sure earn the ire of nat investors if they are going on the same path, but so far only few investors which invested little amount come forth here to discuss nametoken, their latest updates they are working behind to get this token in exchange, I hope they are really doing this.

At this point my initial LTC investment is probably worth more than the NAT token.

Hi everybody.

We know it's a long time that we didn't let you know about updates. This is why I'm sending out this newsletter.

We are still in negotiations with exchanges so that everybody can trade their NAT with other currencies. But unfortunately this seems to be harder then expected. We didn't collect that much funds, therefore we only have a quite small amount of NAT tradeable.

We are still doing our best, and parallel to that we are already in the early development stage.

But: We think, that without being listed on an exchange, using NAT doesn't make sense for our ecosystem. That's why I'm hoping that you still have some patience with us. We are giving everything to get NAT listed. If this won't work within the next weeks (we set our goal til the end of the year), we will compensate our investors.

So, I'm sorry that we can't give you any other news. I just wanted to make sure that you all know that we are doing our best. And if it won't work out, we will find a solution.

Best regards,
Jens

I received this e-mail on November 25th.

I received this e-mail on November 25th.

this letter made me hope the project is not totally dead. Maybe there will be good news in the nearest future.

Another news for december to give you an update how everything is going:

https://www.nametoken.io/2017/12/11/nametoken-december-news/

Am I reading this correctly that the team is now just Jens Peterssen and the whole Menze family has bailed?

If the project required a certain amount of money you should have set a minimum cap. You did not reach your imaginary minimum cap, which means a) people did not believe in your project and b) most of the team cannot be paid. Investors did not pay for a one man show.

IMHO this project is dead and buried and investors should be refunded.

Am I reading this correctly that the team is now just Jens Peterssen and the whole Menze family has bailed?

If the project required a certain amount of money you should have set a minimum cap. You did not reach your imaginary minimum cap, which means a) people did not believe in your project and b) most of the team cannot be paid. Investors did not pay for a one man show.

IMHO this project is dead and buried and investors should be refunded.

not bailed. We are still working together and all people are operating as advisors.
Me and my development team is still active and working on the project.
This has nothing to do with not being able to pay people. This has something to do with reducing operating costs, so that we can build this project. The team is still strong enough in order to get everything done. I would have thought that this would be good for you, since we are not willed to spend investment money on unessecary things.

Have voted for the project to continue and get in exchange, maybe if you did not reach your goal the exchange can give you a boost of income there is no way but to proceed now, I think refunding is a bad option if you have a good roadmap to implement.

I'm more curious on the fact why my 780 Nat , have magically turned into 0.0000000000000078 Nat !! , I haven't touched these coins as there's no use for them , so how did this happen ?

Seriously, i dont know where is the problem to make the Tokens transferable, so it would be listed automatically on Etherdelta.

But: We think, that without being listed on an exchange, using NAT doesn't make sense for our ecosystem. That's why I'm hoping that you still have some patience with us. We are giving everything to get NAT listed. If this won't work within the next weeks (we set our goal til the end of the year), we will compensate our investors.

You told us on November 29th:


With four days left, how are things going?

I don't think the team is acting honest.

They could have set a soft cap and just return investors money.

Now after months they are still trying to figüre out what to do which comes after months of silence.

That is all so far. Please be patient. We will update you weekly / biweekly with our progress from now on, so that you are close to the things that we do at Nametoken.

I don't think the team is acting honest.

They could have set a soft cap and just return investors money.

Now after months they are still trying to figüre out what to do which comes after months of silence.

Give up now if they are serious then they will post from time to time, this is another deadcoin, nothing to expect anymore maybe they have refunded their investors we all thought it's going to be huge because they have a good roadmap, this is the danger of Ico so invest what you can afford to lose.

Give up now if they are serious then they will post from time to time, this is another deadcoin, nothing to expect anymore maybe they have refunded their investors we all thought it's going to be huge because they have a good roadmap, this is the danger of Ico so invest what you can afford to lose.

I still remember they said:

I'm not seeing any progress so far and the communication (or lack thereof) is frightening to be honest. I would love for this project to succeed but all the signs are pointing in a different direction.

How many tokens have been sold by now?

Considering there hasn't been any new development for almost 6 months since the ICO ended , we can consider this a scam , devs ran with the money.
There are many legal ways we can deal with this right now , to make them responsible for their actions.

... so from a legal point of view there is not much you can do. ...

I have also tried to reach the team for claiming a refunding.

All investors are heavily under water and the team seems to be busy with the next projects... :(

Guys, please please be patient.
We are putting a lot of effort into Nametoken. Yes, communication is not our strength, but a working marketplace based on blockchain is more important, am I right?

We have some exciting news today. We discussed a lot in the last weeks regarding the exchange listing problem, and finally found a solution:

https://www.nametoken.io/2018/02/21/solution-exchanging-nat/

Please read. And sorry for not giving you an update in the last weeks.
We are working on so many things regarding Nametoken - we will do our best to improve communication.

BR
Jens

I guess you guys never heard about decentralized exchanges.
we will do our best to improve communication.

Guys, please please be patient.
We are putting a lot of effort into Nametoken. Yes, communication is not our strength, but a working marketplace based on blockchain is more important, am I right?

We have some exciting news today. We discussed a lot in the last weeks regarding the exchange listing problem, and finally found a solution:

https://www.nametoken.io/2018/02/21/solution-exchanging-nat/

Please read. And sorry for not giving you an update in the last weeks.
We are working on so many things regarding Nametoken - we will do our best to improve communication.

BR
Jens

The team has over 20 years experience in the domain trading business

Finally got my refund after sending a couple of reminder e-mails. This basically means the project is dead because the team wouldnt refund if they are still planning on releasing the NAT tokens on an Exchange. I advise everyone to do the same.

Did you get your BTC/ETH refunded? or just the equivalent in USD value?

Guys, please please be patient.
We are putting a lot of effort into Nametoken. Yes, communication is not our strength, but a working marketplace based on blockchain is more important, am I right?

We have some exciting news today. We discussed a lot in the last weeks regarding the exchange listing problem, and finally found a solution:

https://www.nametoken.io/2018/02/21/solution-exchanging-nat/

Please read. And sorry for not giving you an update in the last weeks.
We are working on so many things regarding Nametoken - we will do our best to improve communication.

BR
Jens

Did you get your BTC/ETH refunded? or just the equivalent in USD value?

Guys, please please be patient.
We are putting a lot of effort into Nametoken. Yes, communication is not our strength, but a working marketplace based on blockchain is more important, am I right?

We have some exciting news today. We discussed a lot in the last weeks regarding the exchange listing problem, and finally found a solution:

https://www.nametoken.io/2018/02/21/solution-exchanging-nat/

Please read. And sorry for not giving you an update in the last weeks.
We are working on so many things regarding Nametoken - we will do our best to improve communication.

BR
Jens

I don't think that we should expect any new updates from the team. Even if they do something they don't really care about their investors. So for me this project is SCAM.

They raised only a tiny amount of dollars and they run away maybe, they didn't post an update since 24th april, http://www.nametoken.io/project-progress/ (http://www.nametoken.io/project-progress/). Or maybe I'm wrong and in a couple days they will come up with some updates but I doubt it

Now we can confirm that this project died at ICO stage, and now its time for returning the money back that was raised on ICO stage.  I would like to hear from team regarding returning the investor money back.  This is a failed project and the team should return the money back. 

the team has disappeared along with investor money, so it's very unlikely to be refunded. even I have forgotten this project, then I saw this thread and I thought this project was alive again, it turned out I was wrong

Now we can confirm that this project died at ICO stage, and now its time for returning the money back that was raised on ICO stage.  I would like to hear from team regarding returning the investor money back.  This is a failed project and the team should return the money back. 

I'm not sure that the team will do that. It is unlikely that they will return the money to investors. After a long silence do not hope for it. Here and so everything is clear