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Hi, you guys might rememeber me from my threads on:

Decred:  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1741989.0

Sia:  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1836426.0

Lisk:  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1832027.0

Radium:  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2084797.0

Florincoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2113839.0

Syscoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2128959.0

I'm here today to talk about Ardor.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/ARDRBTC/LIGefcK3-Ardor-Where-Technicals-and-Fundamentals-Meet-1bln-poten-cap/

Brought to you by the team that created NXT, a stable blockchain that has existed with unique features / extreme performance for years, Ardor will serve as a "parent" chain to many sidechains that will be secured by the main Ardor network.

This concept is revolutionary, because it allows for the child chains to be pruned / extreme blockchain performance / scalability.

Every tx on the ardor network will cost ~10 ardr and stakers will recover rewards from tx fees paid on the ardr main chain and EVERY child chain supported by the network. According to the bitcointalk OP for Ardor, they have many features and partnerships in the works that have not been disclosed.

Fundamentally, Ardr is a Lsk competitor with 1/5 of the market cap. The current Ardr token is an IOU, as the Ardr main net is due to launch in q4 2017.

Jelruda, the team behind Nxt, Ardr, and Ardr's first childchain (ignis), has successfully raised over 650 btc for their ignis ico (which isn't even over), and now has significant funding to further the project. The biggest problem with Nxt was funding, as the Nxt ICO was in a different era.

You can read more about ardr and child chains here:
https://www.jelurida.com/ardor-roadmap
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518497.0
https://twitter.com/ardorplatform?lang=en

Ignis child chain info:
https://medium.com/@cryptojudgement/ignis-the-first-of-ardors-childchains-794c711b99be

Ardr will be one of the premier "Blockchain as a Service" Platforms of the future and has a low market cap of 135mm at the time of posting.

Technically... as you can see, Ardor has made a significant retracement from its last high and is currently sitting on what appears to be an extremely strong historical support level . The bollinger bands are extremely compressed on the 1D chart, showing that a move could be imminent. Coupled with a clear double bottom ... this is as good of a buy as it gets.

For me, this is a perfect entry to a project with the right team and the right mission to be a 1billion + cap one day. Strap in, dis gon be gud.

https://i.imgur.com/X9piTqa.png

Going to take a good look at Ardor and say thanks again for Syscoin, what a gem that is!

Ikr... them releasing that badass news was icing on the cake... killed it / still killin it on sys.

I'm sure you'll like ardr too... really really good fundamentals / tech (which is what gets me going :P)

Thanks again. Really wishing my extra bitcoin and ether weren't locked up on Binance.com right now. Could use a withdraw.

Thanks) I think you are right as usual)
I am in it 5 days.

Get off that bullshit exchange

allready saw your post on tradingview and put all my money in. thanks for posting your ideas :)

I transferred it there to get some WTC. I see you use Polo? Is it not bad for holding peoples funds?

No... who told u that?  I use trex and polo.... less counterparty risk to be on multiple exchanges

I've seen a lot of posts on reddit. I really need to stay off of reddit to be honest. So many children.

I think a lot of dumb / new money came to polo and didn't know how to use the site.  I've never had one issue with them.

Brilliant, thanks man!


You and me both... it would be apt if Binance was based in Macau because trading there is like playing slots or a roulette wheel.

Why can't you guys withdraw from Binance?  That's concerning...

They're down for maintenance right now. Removing the ICO's that were banned and blocking Chinese people from using the exchange. Apparently also working on adding 5 new coins.

I invested around 1000$ on it hope this is that 10X coin for me.
Is it too late to invest on SYSCOIN?

is there any way to get alerts about your topics? real gems

You can follow me on twitter... i usually post there too :P and thank you

Nah, syscoin has a lot more upside.  Maybe set some bids at 5k-5.5k and keep fingers crossed

Sure will do that. Thanks alot

No problem... good luck!

thanks for your calls dbt1033.
i own some NXT, would it be a good idea to swap them now with ARDR?
Or to wait the NXT-IGNIS snapshot?

Personally, I have both... waiting for that ignis airdrop for nxt hodlers

NXT showed how incompetent they are with the IGNIS ICO. Wouldn't touch any of their coins with a 10-foot pole.

For anyone who isn't familiar: On Day 1 of the IGNIS ICO 100% of available tokens were sold to a single account: https://nxtportal.org/transactions/831783907619337538

They bought 10 million coins in total, and the devs said they would do nothing about it.

" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2005605.msg19980320#msg19980320 "

Neo was six dollars when you made the above post. Its now 22

Oh, thanks for saving us "LamboMoonYacht".

I bought ANS @ $8, doesn't change the fact that most of the hype surrounding it had no merit.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Some variation of an ad hominem attack or "stop spreading FUD" is exactly the type of response that only confirms suspicions.

Fair enough. Glad you changed your mind on that decision.

Me too. I also stand by my assessment that XEL is a shitcoin. I'm disappointed you chose to ignore my Blocknet and Nexus bags though, which are up over 400% each :(

And you should look up Cunningham's Law sometime. Just sayin' ;)

Your other calls have been pretty impressive, count me in for ARDR too!

Judging by his call history he's right more like.. very often.

Yo come back someone needs to bump my thread plz

I'm also interested in the outcome of holding ARDOR vs IGNIS?


Is Ardor going to be similar to a gas? Is it even comparable to any other coin?

Glad to see you're competent enough to use a blockchain explorer. Now read.

https://www.nxter.org/ignis-ico-report-3/
https://www.nxter.org/ignis-ico-report-5/

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/the-story-of-the-ignis-crowd-sale-(first-round)/

TL;DR: Devs reacted instantaneously, locked the knowledgeable intruder down, launched a kick ass bot for everyone so why you trolling?

Thanks man, was interested in reading more about this. 

I'm bad luck.  I just dumped my NEO to buy in to ARDR at 0.00003337 BTC/ARDR and it started to drop almost straight away afterwards.  Hopefully this is temporary  :'( #WrongMoon  :P

It was probably dbt dumping after he got the pump he was looking for from this post hahah

jk

lel... i'm about those .5% gainz

I was hoping for a moonshot. Can this one be a dud?

No... jesus christ have some patience

All of this poster's threads have been about trading/investment opportunities that play out in the timeframe of at least several months.  While some of the other picks have happened to see upward movement almost immediately, his sentiment seems to be very strongly in the camp of "ignore the short-term action, hodl for several months, and come back to see your big returns!". 

Asking if this is a dud within just a few hours of the posting seems to be entirely missing the point.

Maybe wait another 5 seconds and report back!

So funny.

It kills me to see that people are investing precious bitcoin with so little patience.  

I often see this with new investors... fomo all-in on one coin because a bunch of noobs are talking about it (good sign it's top), then sell for a loss to fomo a lesser all-in on another.  

The key to success in this game is patience.  

Find good projects.  Then find a good place to buy them.  Then wait.

I like spreading my bets around... so I do serious research to determine how much of my portfolio I want a particular asset to represent.

For example:  Ardr is a really serious project with a really serious team.  It's on several big exchanges / therefore pretty liquid.  I might be ok having a bag that represents 15-20% of my portfolio on something like this.  Other coins that don't meet these criteria (they might be really ambitions but with unproven dev team... or maybe they just aren't that liquid) might be a good pick to represent 3-5% of your portfolio.

I understand that a lot of times, when you are new... you don't have much to play with.

If this is you (no shame, we all start somewhere), pick two projects... join the slacks so you know what's going on.  Follow twitter posts about the projects.  Read the forums.   This will help you judge sentiment.  
Make sure to buy at a good time to minimize a drawdown..... you can take a free trading course at www.babypips.com to help you realize what is a good buy and what isn't.  

When you have entered 1-2 projects, hold on for dear life.  Fight the temptation to sell for a loss (unless you really fucked up with your buy... but I'm sure you will make a few mistakes along the way.)
There is a lot of hype in crypto.  Do not fall into the cycle of chasing hype.  You want to buy projects BEFORE everyone else is talking about them, not AFTER.  If everyone and their mother is talking about something, it's likely too late.

Make sure to check out www.coinmarketcap.com.  My favorite projects are those with <200mm market cap.  This is because there is a lot of potential upside for low-medium cap projects.  

Good luck investing guys... it's a wild ride but can be incredibly rewarding.  Learn to realize your faults, sit on your hands, and learn from your mistakes.  Becoming a successful investor takes time.  There is a reason 90+% fail.  Be persistent.

Well said and X2...and babypips is a great comprehensive site.

I. am. in.

ARDR ;D

@dbt1033 - Great last post, as a newbie in crypto I really appreciate you taking time to give advice.

Just a quick question, still trying to figure out how the Ignis ICO works, if I understand correctly:

1.) You can get some NXT now, wait for Ardor genesis and get 0.5 IGNIS per 1 NXT

or

2.) You can buy into ICO directly with NXT for a JRLDA IOU token, at a rate of (right now) .76 NXT = 1 JRLDA = 1 IGNUS

Why would anyone with NXT hold for the Ardor Genesis to get 0.5 IGNIS per 1 NXT, instead of buying into the ICO and pay .76 NXT for 1 IGNUS?

Please enlighten :)

Another thing i wanted to address....

STOP looking at the damn orderbooks!  Who cares if there is a buy / sell wall.... people who are much more experienced than you can place / remove them at any time. 

I see people all the time saying things like "oh shit a 1 btc sell wall just appeared...".... this is not a sell wall, and who cares.  Plenty of ppl can much that without thinking twice.

Orderbooks can be fake / can change.  Fundamental / technical analysis is much more reliable.

Well.. i would assume that the mentality is that you get "free coins" from the airdrop and then you can keep hodling your nxt or dump your nxt after that and buy something else...

Oh, that makes sense, I thought that the NXT coins were being converted to IGNIS coins and you lose the old NXT coins.

Nope... if you don't participate in the ICO... you get the airdrop of .5 ignis/nxt AND you get to keep your nxt.

Hmmm.. decisions decisions.

Found a reddit post with some info, answered my question about what the point of NXT is after Ardor & Ignis come out - https://www.reddit.com/r/NXT/comments/57qrgg/nxt_ardor_and_ignis_qas/


Might go 50% NXT for airdrop, and 50% into ARDOR to hodl, @dbt1033 think this is an OK ratio?

TBH i dunno what the hell I'm doing about this myself...  I have some nxt i wanted to dump on people that were buying for the ICO... but I don't see any buying happening lol... probably just gonna hodl and see what happens / get the airdrop.

Folks, do not forget Nxt also. Taken from JPL license (https://www.jelurida.com/jpl):

"Starting from version 1.11.6, the Nxt Reference Software (NRS) is the first software to be released under the Jelurida Public License, with the Special Conditions requiring a 10% sharedrop to the NXT holders from Nxt clones."

The same license terms will be applied to Ardor platform. That means, that any Nxt/Ardor clone in the future will need to give at least 10% of their cloned system forging tokens must be airdroped to existing Nxt/Ardor holders. So don't look at this project short term.

That's really interesting information... this just gets better and better!

Thanks for posting man!

Yep, ARDR is a good investment right now. I bought 500K and going to buy twice as much. Thanks for nice intro in OP

love this guy's posts but a bit confused on this one

let's make this very simple for an idiot such as myself. There looks like there's going to be 3 "coins... NXT, ARDOR, and Ignis

Which one  is the one that was recommended?

The thread title says Ardor...

simple as that to those who knows how to understand and if reading back there are different project and different purposes so with the thread starter
he believes that ardor got his interest that's why he make this to give some hints why he chooses ardor.

lookin good

Simply fork 1.11.5 as the GPL cannot be undone, and then reverse-engineer the features of NXT 1.11.6+ (if you need them) or Ardor. The source of the code is public (Ardor is still closed source but will be "shared source" [source-available] once it launches, otherwise it could be malware and no one with a bit of brain would install it), so you simply have to grasp the concept behind it and write your own code ;D

This "JPL" license is a total fail and short-sighted as hell. But the project ARDR overall is great, it's one of those with most potential. That's why I'm still in, despite of that crappy "shared source" license.

For those who are interested in Ignis ICO, taken from www.jelurida.com/ico :

The first and second rounds are now sold out! 140 M JLRDA total were sold and 68 M NXT collected. Thank you all for your contribution!

The third round of the crowdsale will be divided into 4 offers of 25 M JLRDA each, all priced at 1 JLRDA for 0.76 NXT. These will be released according to the following time schedule:

Sat, Sep 9th between 06:45 - 07:15 UTC
Sun, Sep 10th between 18:45 - 19:15 UTC
Tue, Sep 12th between 06:45 - 07:15 UTC
Thu, Sep 14th between 18:45 - 19:15 UTC

The exact time within each 30 minute interval will be decided randomly. Jelurida reserves the right to modify the above schedule in case of circumstances beyond its control.

Thanks for this thread.

I was in Ardor + IGNIS because of the fundamentals.

Now I am buying more because of the TA.

I may be wrong but I predict 2x-3x in USD in 2months or less.

Yeah I am also in for a couple of month now, because of the fundamentals. Rebought some blood too early but thats okey, if you buy all the bloody way down. We are going to see a huge rise in 2018 so I am not going to sell my bag :)

I agree, it's hard to beat the fundamentals of ardr

You're holding for a few months?

I'll never commit to holding for a specific amount of time. 

I will hold until i reach my desired level of profit... and sell 10% or so of my position at each local top

How long did it take for the ignis ICO's to sell out?

Hey dbt1033,

and how do you determine a local top? like 20%? 50%? 2x growth?

Cheers

Interested to know as well. I imagine he compares the market cap to similar projects to determine their true value.

That's one way I do it... i also like fib extensions /gann fans for determining potential final tops. 

You can determine a local top through analyzing momentum...  in other words, it stops moving after a decent rise and is not flagging or showing any kind of obvious accumulation pattern

yea also expecting a run up this weekend as people begin to accumulate more NXT to buy into the second round of the ignis ICO, likely to be an easy trading strategy for each upcoming ICO sale period

Been in Ardr for a couple of weeks now. Seeing this makes my heart light weighted. Panic sold half of my bag after ignis ico commenced and the subsequent dump on Ardr. But this chart has given me hope of a good profit in Ardr. Please how high do you think it can go once it breaks out?

CryptoMessiah says this is going to at least 1 Billion cap coin.

Looking the goods - Thank you Sir! and Thank you Sir for the previous been following them all now. 

Lookin good tonight.

Volume up almost 70% from last night.

As quarter number 4 is near . Any moment from here on the mainnet of Ardor will be launched . I see this as a great opportunity to enter and potentially it will really have a 10x in return. Time to forge .

BOOM.

This is not the thread to ask this, however: The 2 first rounds (of 4) took literally milliseconds to be bought.

Check al the info here:

https://www.jelurida.com/ico

Third round starts tomorrow.

it seems that buying ardor with nxt is quite cheaper.
for 1000 ardor, u need 280 nxt (rate 0.2797). the current nxt price is 0.09$ in bittrex.

Again, dbt you have done us a great service by drawing our attention to this coin. Thank you. I had read up on it before and like it, but you have made clear the market fundamentals which helped me enormously when considering this project.

I only wish Bittrex was more thoughtful... I was playing around, swing trading with Ardor (I know, couldn't help myself) when bittrex jammed up earlier today. Don't ask me how it happened because I have no recollection, may be the valium and whiskey hangover, but I put through a 10k purchase at around 41... and then all of a sudden it's 33...

or maybe it didn't happen and I'm still drunk. I don't know anymore. :)

Thank you for drawing my attention to this coin, it looks like a great project with a real good team surrounding it which means the coin has really great potential for the future.

This doesn't seem right... Ardor is more expensive than NXT across every exchange. No way you get 1000 Ardor for less than 1000 NXT.

You don't get ARDOR anymore with your NXT. That snap-shot is already over.
You will get IGNIS. It's the first child-currency that runs on Ardor.

So basically: If you had NXT some months ago, there was a snap-shot and you got ARDOR assets. For each asset you will get one ARDOR on the final chain.

Now there is an IGNIS-ICO, you can sell you NXT into it. If you're lucky, then the offer is taken and you get roughly 1.32 assets which represent IGNIS (not all offers are taken up, because there are too many).
There are still more rounds to come (all information is collected here (https://www.jelurida.com/ico)). But if you don't take part or don't succeed, then you just keep your NXT and you will get 0.5 IGNIS additionally on the day of the launch.

What's the best deal? Hard to say. If you trust in the new launch, then you would want more IGNIS. But it might also drop in price... or NXT might go up, and then maybe keeping NXT would have been the better choice. People might also dump NXT in the thought that Ardor will take totally over. So yeah.
Either way, with all the money raised so far, the devs have given the guarantee that Nxt will be supported for 3 years at least. And since it is different from Ardor, there are still good use-cases for Nxt (https://medium.com/@lyaffe/is-nxt-dead-3652fd39fcf7).

Wrong math, bro.  For 1000 ardor at the rate specified you need as much as ~2800 NXT. But indeed, ARDR is currently very cheap compared to that value where it should be.

Ardor the most promising coin for short term investment, i expect growth of at least 40% in 3 days. Imho ofc, this is not a call to buy ;)

I am doubt about short term, but for either  middle or  long  terms you are correct. It has a potential to grow to $1.

define what middle and long terms mean to you?

Another great thread. Thanks for sharing.

 I have some Ardor but Im getting some more now ;)
Ridiculously cheap if you consider the potential.

I actually think this is about as safe as a buy can get in the crypto space. The future for Blockchains as a service looks bright long term imho ...regardless of how hard they will try to regulate virtual currencies away, blockchains arent going anywhere. And Ardor is technily stronger than some others and pretty much the only one thats still so low (except for nxt)

btw: any thoughts on where Nxt will be going?

perhaps you can find this article useful
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@skort/don-t-be-naive-nxt-and-the-ignis-ico

Or this, from core dev: https://medium.com/@lyaffe/is-nxt-dead-3652fd39fcf7

Thanks for that, was considering what to do about the whole thing, haev decided to just buy Ardor and hodl

I'm personally more bullish on Ardr than Ignis or Nxt...

Think about this:  Ardr holders can get fees from EVERY child chain on the Ardr platform by staking.

Imagine if you could collect tx fees from every erc20 token just by holding ethereum. 

They also have unannounced partners and pegged USD / EUR / BTC child chains that will be available on launch... sounds a lot like a bank to me. 

This is going to be good.

Any idea on when launch will be announced?

A little correction: Child chain fees in their native tokens will get bundlers, which can be anybody. Then bundlers must pay ARDR tokens to ARDR forgers, in order these child chain bundles to be included in ARDR main chain. You can read more about it at :https://www.jelurida.com/forging-bundling

At least two weeks after Ignis ICO is finished, probably early November.

Sure, I see what you are saying... it's not exactly staking.  But if you hold enough ardr, you can run bundlers and collect fees from all child chains, yes?

I already invested in Ardor some months ago and now I am eagerly waiting for the start of the main chain in Q4 2017. I am sure it will be a success. I agree that it will be a good entry point now to buy (more) Ardor.

Yes, anybody can be a bundler, if have some ARDR for including bundles into main chain. There is no special criteria to be a bundler.

Starting from one year and further on. But with the launch of mainnet in 4Q ARDR will definitely shows the steady growth.

I have heard from many people that Ardor's price will rise and I invested long ago. I made a nice profit from Ardor right now. I'm waiting to get better and I'm sure there will be more beautiful things.

I think Ardor's price will rise 40% in 2 weeks.

Doeas it mean that even with small stake you can be a bundler without requiring to hold millions
of coins like in NXT where it was needed to be allowed to forge anything?

Yes.

That is indeed interesting. Thinking a bit more about it: This "bundling" concept guarantees ARDR stakers almost something like a "block reward". For every child chain you have a certain minimum transaction fee, depending on the "block time" of the child chain (if the child chain is bundled into every ARDR block or not). That is a much better income as on the current NXT chain where some of the blocks are empty.

The "risk" is thus transferred to bundlers - it will be interesting how they would be motivated to participate, because they must pay 20 ARDR (is that right?) per ChildChainBlock transaction, but only would earn fees when  there are "real" transactions happening. I think they then could use the strategy to only bundle transactions if they happen, increasing the "childchain block time" in times of few activity.

This is a feature  I personally am not too happy with. The USD/EUR/BTC tokens will be IOU's, just like the Multigateway tokens or Waves IOU tokens. The problem is that I fear a MtGox-like scenario if one of the companies running these IOUs becomes insolvent. It would be interesting if Jelurida has a "emergency plan" for this scenario (e.g. transferring the rights to run the IOU to another company)...

Bought Ardor friday at 0.18$, just before the fall...To get again at 0.18$, I need to rise at least 40%... Hope to be a good investment soon

Damn, that is some bad luck. :( Things like this also happen to me pretty often. But most of the times, it becomes worth it sooner or later and the price goes above the one you paid thus giving you a nice return  :).

Thanks for mentioning Ardor, i am just in process of investing in it. It might go up sort of like Ark went up recently. I also believe Ark is a solid investment.

Doesn't matter, still good price. Just hold a couple of months

at that time I was going to sell them for a little profit till I could've bought some bitcoin TH from genesis, but now...I'm stuck, so I must HODL no mather what. When I saw yesterday at 0.115$...O, "happy" day :)

Just HODL and don't check the charts for a couple of months. Easy-peasy. Ardor was going up nicely until the China news affected the whole crypto. Once the FUD is gone, Ardor will fly again and you will see your investment 2x-3x easily by the end of the year.

The fundamentals never lie.

uuu, that would be just nice. I'll do that, although it's hard not to watch the charts :)) I check it every 30min, not only Ardor, but also Game, Radium, Florincoin, Syscoin. The last one gave me already a 60% rise. Too bad I didn't put more then.

Has anyone heard if there would be listing ignite on polo or not?

you feel confident about this? you think ardor could hit near 7000 satoshi in a few months?

I can assume that yes, ARDR the most promising coin on that moment, in my opinion

Is there any option in bitcoin talk to follow someone? I want to follow this guy!

Bookmark his profile url. Or i think he might have some profile

I've been following this guy and I think he's predictions are right. Although flesh and blood did not reveal Ark to me. I bought below One dollar two months ago and it's above $3 today. I believe Ark will still grow.

With his judgement, I'll add Ardor to my portfolio. I'll place a buy order today. I don't really know if it's still advisable to invest now.

Everything still good... still have positions in Rads, Game, Ardr, Sys, Flo, and Xel guys. 

Good news is... look at some of the shit you could have bought.  These bags are hodling pretty steady price wise (which is impressive considering everyone is freaking out right now).

Try not to look at your blockfolios too much... it can be painful (although I admittedly check mine like 100 times a day lol).  We are just playing the waiting game at this point.

https://www.coinist.io/what-are-nxt-and-ardor-blockchain-platforms/

http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/bnp-paribas-accenture-spain-test-nxt-blockchain-technology/

This looks huge!

If this news grasp like NEM news did...expect NXT/ARDR to the moon.

You can Switch to btc View in blockfolio much better :D

Can't help but to check the portfolio 50x a day, but I'm not selling anything!! Going broke repeatedly buying these dips for 2+ weeks, but I'm gonna be happy as shit when the bull comes back to town!

however, ARDR is growing while the whole market crashes

Rads is still in your bag. Shall we wait ? damage too :(

What about NXT ?

Yeah I'm not selling my Rads lol... It's a super long hodl.

Out of all of my bags... Ardr is quickly becoming my favorite. 

Really stable while other stuff was shitting itself.  8)

Do you think we're going to see more lows and a bear market for a while?

Any thoughts on entry points?

Launch is coming closer. No warnings of delays yet (which must be about the first development project I've seen with no missed deadlines).
ICO collected a good amount of funds for development and marketing.
So I don't see room for this going anywhere but up. Might be slow.
Of course... major Bitcoin stories can always change all this.

Honestly... I hope this is as slow as possible. I can't get my bags big enough...

I'm rolling almost all profit from everything i trade into ardor.

Which wallet we can use to store Ardor?

it's related to NXT wallet right ?

Yes, use official Nxt wallet. www.nxt.org or www.jelurida.com, version 1.11.9

I read a lot about ardor before investing. And now just a gift that this price. I am sure the flight to the moon will be.

Bitcoin "stories" can even help Ardor grow: Currently, transaction fees are going up again. That will bring more "fire" into the (at this moment, dormant) scalability debate.

When this topic hits the news again, Ardor's chance is to present itself as a major solution with the child chain mechanism that allows >30 times the transaction capacity with the same amount of blockchain space, without the drawbacks of the Lightning Network and sidechains. (And Bitcoin Cash is also not the solution, as it does not "scale", it only "moves the block size limit".)

+7% today

Its climbing and climbing and climbing. Crazy constant coin compared to others

today +12%. great !!!!!!!

woooohooooo, whats going on? is there anything upcoming? today there was a big pump in the price!

Hi Dbt !

Following you on bitcointalk and twitter, you're always giving good advices thanks for that !

Do you think it's still time to grow our bags with ardr or better wait some days after this significant push ?

Nice to see some action at the price of Ardor. Maybe some people finally realized that ARDR is a nice longterm invest, it will be one of the biggest gainer in 2018! I am sure that this project will get some nice attention after some updates!

With a project like this that has great long-term (6 months +) potential - do you tend to sell at the top and maybe buy back in later, or do you keep a significant position throughout all the high and lows until it really matures?

I wouldn't sell anything below 5x

i sell ARDR 3 day's ago, it was a bad decision.... lol

If you sold 3 days ago, you obviously haven't done your homework on Ardor. Spend just one day to read the many articles etc out there.

This is isn't a 3 or 6 month trade IMO. This could be the big fish that doesn't come all to that often. I think OP's price is very very conservative, but i think he already knows this. If this project manages a decent marketing campaign from the Ignis funding, watch out above. Personally, I plan to hold Ardor until Crypto bubbles past the $2trillion mark, which is probably 5+ years away. Set and forget people, set and forget!

Why on earth do you sell a project that is just starting? Jesus!

Never sold a single Ardor token before Q2 of 2018, at least!

Keep growing those bags brother... this is a long hodl

Actually, the way things are going with crypto, the time of 3 and 6 month exploding alts are gone. Those that can still experience those kinds of growth are anyway in the hands of extremely insider knowledge holders. I actually feel OP's price is as optimistic as can be expected, without being over the top. Marketing is also extremely saturated now so yes, what happens after Ignis will determine a lot of things - but many months down the line.

Agree on estimation of years, and not for Ardor alone!

I've been following OP's calls for a while and they always deliver. They are good for going in heavy and with patience, SIA made me so much money and got in Ardor the second I saw him post this thread. Shit's looking solid. The best thing I liked was seeing how hard that bottom was even during the heavy as fuck Bitcoin dumps. Means this shit will skyrocket given enough time cause only the strongest hulk hands remain.

Thank you bro!  That's much appreciated.  Let's go to the moon!

Oh dude, you really sold it? Its so damn bullis in the last time. Maybe you are the one that sold into my buywalls  ;D I am not going to sell my Ardor before next year, this is going to be huge guys!

Nobody has patience.  They all want 20% returns in 3 days. 

is it too late to come on board?
total supply is 999 999 999 coins, i am a little afraid of a Ripple-style Situation.
How high do you see this thing going? especially with supply in mind?

Bittrex has a huge sell wall at around 4000 sat. Thing it'll hit those levels again?

http://i65.tinypic.com/2d7ev4m.png

OMG what kind of monsters are those walls on Bittrex?! 300 btc each... :o

Time to light the fuse on this baby, we're going to the moon!

Saw this on reddit re. the buy wall:

there is good pump in this coin today, looks it was good investment.

I was one of the tards selling to have a 20% profit aha...wanting to buy later at lower
Now i buy back at 5000sat because i think it still have a lot of room to grow in the next months
Let's see

Looks like ARDR is on the way to reach my prediction of at least a 500 million market cap at the start of the network. We have now about $280-300 million between NXT and ARDR ($200-210M ARDR, $70-80M NXT, + some JLRIDA that have also some value).

I expect if the launch goes on flawlessly and there is no generalized cryptocurrency crash (unfortunately, that is a real possibility given the current ultra-high valuation of Bitcoin), we will see significantly more than $500M in total. If there is a crash, however, I think it's a good buying opportunity.

Thanks for the good advice! it was a good investment can vouch for this guy ;D Rose more than 70% since i bought

You should see the original posters ghastly twitter.
He Watched WaltonChain pump. Then Claimed og status, called everyone a noob who invested. Then he went on to claim Waltonchain was a scam. All to no effect, and then tried to shill his own bag.
Like he is doing to you guys.

I feel so sorry for people listening to him and selling WaltonChain at $4.75 - he is an asshole of the highest magnitude. He is not here to help but to help his pockets at the expense of others. There is going to be many bag hodlers on this guys glorified pump and dumps. Its going to be sad. Super arrogant and a sore loser.

Just look at SiaCoin - this guy and his friends all sold off and it went back to near pre pump prices lol. Theres just a lot of bag hodlers that bought at the top waiting for the day that will never come.

Just be careful is all I am saying. I would hate for people to get burnt when it is so glaringly obvious what is going to happen!

^^^ OP is just pointing at something and saying: "Here's my opinion". Nobody is being forced to do anything. With so many altcoins around it's difficult to always spot everything. Someone mentions something, you investigate it yourself and make your own decision.

Anyway.
My ARDR is up 60% thanks to seeing it mentioned here.

I actually agree with everything you wrote.

Glad its working out. I actually told him about Walton at a buck. He shunned it and then started fudding it. I just think its atrocious to call something a scam without proof or to try and FUD the price down to buy in. Weak Investors are being hurt by the likes of him - someone who is supposedly passionate about helping "noobs".
My advice Take profit on the way up. You can see his recent calls are a lot harder to move the market now lol.
His past calls were made during the biggest bull market ever where every coin had a small market cap. And Nearly every coin went up.

Thats all I have to say in here really.

Do you even know what your saying?

If you cared to research his history posts and cross check his analysis at the time, it was flipping amazing what this guy did. He did his research and shared his findings with no influence to have people follow him whatsoever. His post on Siacoin dated 21st March had Siacoin at 10m MCAP. Just 3 months later, it peaked at 600m MCAP. 60 fold. Your not going to get the bottom and top, but wow, you should have at the very least taken 10x out of your initial investment if you just held.

A big thank you to DBT for his analysis on Ardor with 100% gains till now. It hasn't even warmed up yet.

His calls have been for mid-to-long term calls on coins, and many of the recent ones came immediately before or just at the beginning of the September market correction.  Despite that, each of those are either neutral or ahead despite the market still being on its way to recovery (and I've noticed these coins recovering much more quickly most of the rest of the market).  WTC was relatively unaffected by the September correction because it's the latest flavor-of-the-week hypecoin and has only existed for slightly longer than the month of September.  Feel free to check back in 3-6 months and see where WTC has dumped to relative to where coins like ARDR, GAME, and FLO are.  As a point of reference, WTC:ARDR is about 30:1 right now

Lmao u said you weren't butthurt?  Stop following me around and writing essays. 

No one likes you and you haven't given anything to this community.

Or, you can keep bumping my awesome threads.  Either way...

When does ARDR and NXT launch?

Nxt has been around for years, but I believe the ARDR main net is supposed to launch some time in November

Damn it's a sad thing watching that price plummet.

I see a succesful first rally that moved past the consolidation range and broke 1 level of resistance, then some distribution at second resistance, pullback to a higher consolidation level than a couple of weeks ago which used to be resistance, now support. Rinse and repeat a couple of times. Remember to sell at resistance buy at support.

Hi all!
I got some NXT. please, need a bit help. Where is better to hold. I read a lot of info about NXT, coin swapp... but im wery newbie in crypto.
Thanks for all answer!

download the NXT wallet and put them there. As sooner as better.
Soon there gonna be a snapshot and every NXT will give you 1 Ignis coin. You shouldn't miss that free money for sure

1 = 0.5 Ignis. 
But else you're spot on.
I think NXT is a bit undervalued right now considering this - per 1 Ardor, you get 3 NXT plus and 1.5 Ignis. That's a good deal.

I expect Ardor to retract a bit still. But the real top is still far off.

Thanks for your reply Nuskill and Thomas.
I have download from nxtplatform.org, right?

Thank you!

What the wallet for ardor and lisk gives you free coins?

can someone send me  2 NXT (enough for fee?)  I would like to secure the wallet.
I will not get such low amount :-D

Best nxt wallet or ardor wallet?

There is no Ardor wallet ATM, only on testnet. Use Nxt official wallet, it keep all related Nxt stuff in the same account id.

What is the name of the wallet that gives gas/ free coins? official?

? please someone....

I don't think it is the right thread for your question.

I am asking about the correct NXT wallet to receive free in gin coins...

www.nxt.org This is official Nxt client. By keeping your NXT here, you'll receive IGNIS on Ardor network, when it will go live. Just keep your passphrase safe, the same passphrase will open the same account in the Ardor network and there you'll find your Ignis.

Can I install Nxt client at a USB-Stick and use the Wallet at another PC. I have Win7 and Win10

Yes, you can. Use universal .zip installer and just unzip contents of it to USB stick. Also, check you have Java 8 installed in your PC. Then start run.bat, wait until it loads and open localhost:7876 in your browser. But note, that it will download whole blockchain to your stick, which is around 3.5 GB now. If you want to run Nxt client in lite mode (no blockchain download), create new nxt.properties file in /conf directory and add to it "nxt.isLightClient=true" (without clauses) and restart server with run.bat. If you'll have any problems, I suggest to join Nxt slack for help, invitation is at https://nxtchat.herokuapp.com/

Thx. Waht do you mean with
Where is the conf directory?

Sorry guys, don't understand well, if we have Ardor we receive free coins or the airdrop is only for NXT holders?

The IGNIS "snapshot airdrop" is only for NXT holders, who will receive 0,5 IGNIS for every NXT they hold.

ARDR asset holders will get only Ardor coins when the blockchain launches, NOT Ignis. If you have ARDR assets and a NXT wallet and want to get IGNIS in the snapshot, it could be a good idea to wait until the end of the ICO (when NXT prices, related to Ardor, will be probably lower than now) and then sell some of your ARDR coins for NXT.

Ardor seems having future,
It grows and it has a cool feature as a revision tonprevious one.

It may go higher even 10x.
Jump in

In the same folder, where you unzip whole package.

There is no such directory. I have found nxt.properties file in /resource directory.

Do I have to create the new nxt.properties file with Editor and rename it to nxt.properties?

There should be "conf" folder, if you find "resources" folder. And yes, you should create new nxt.properties file in "conf" folder with Editor. But I suggest you join Nxt slack channel at https://nxtchat.herokuapp.com/ where you will receive live technical support. And this thread has different purpose :)

Constant vertical buy walls appearing. Not sure if bot behavior or what it is that keeps propping these things up. Looking forward to it breaking out of current levels soon - been moving sideways for a few days now.

Buckle up. Nxt has some movement today. Free Ignis coins when you hold NXT in your wallet in a week!

Anyone have any suggestions on whether or not to invest in Ardor rigth now?

OP has definitely presented me with an interesting case and i think that there has definitely been a long time of sideways movement for Ardor and a lot of upwards potential. I'm very tempted to buy into some at the moment.


And what exactly is Ignis?

Ignis is on the NXT chain. You get .5 ignis for every 1 nxt i
This month. Free money!

Had a bag of NXT for a while... Participated in the IGNIS ico... Let's see what the future will bring

any idea when Ignis ICO ends>?

I believe it'll be November 4th. It'll then take at least 2 weeks after this date before the snapshot takes place.

Official source of info here:

https://www.jelurida.com/ico

What is the difference btw 2 wallets please?

Thank you!!

Do you mean "between the 2 wallets"? Which wallets? I see only one on the page - and that's the official client.

Sorry, you right!  Wanted to ask, what is the diff. beetwen NXT clien lite and NXT client blockchain downloaded.

Thank you!

dont download the blockchain... way to heavy

Free money on the NXT chain, now is a good time to buy, alts are getting hit with the Bitcoin rally last few days.

Ok. Thanks a lot!

what do you think is a conservative prediction for ardr in the next months ? Can it be higher than 1 $ in the end? Can anybody please explain to me if there really is a connection between the circulating supply and the price? (for example iota, if there will be a use case, where 6000000000 devices would use it, could it explode beyond let´s say 1000$ ?)

ARDR up %15 today! While other alts are getting slaughtered

Nice call CryptoMessiah, ARDR is has been rising nicely.

just the start. after the rise there came the new roadmap out.

keep it tight. This one gonna be big. I see it going to 0,8 in the next weeks when the altrallie starts again. (might as well see bitcoin keep rushing higher ATHs then...wait :D )

Ardor Release Timeline

Oct 28 - Nov 04
5th and last ICO round, 100 M JLRDA plus all unsold JLRDA from the 4th round and minus marketing expenses are put for sale at 1.45 NXT each as announced
Any remaining unsold JLRDA tokens will be kept by Jelurida until the Ardor snapshot and the resulting IGNIS tokens will be used to fund future development and promotion
Nov 04
Ardor testnet 2.0.4e release
Starting from a new genesis block and deleting the current testnet
Adding major new features: Asset Control and Composite Phasing
Nov 24
Final Ardor testnet release
Source code is released for review under temporary license, no cloning allowed
Node JS module and Mobile App operational
Only security and critical bug fixes after this date
No further API changes
Four years anniversary for Nxt celebration
NXT Block Height 1630000 - Approximately Dec 25
Ardor genesis snapshot recorded at block 1630000
Transactions with ARDR, Bitswift, and Janus assets disabled on the Nxt blockchain
Dec 27
Ardor generally available software release
Source code released under the JPL
Forging not yet possible to give time for users to setup nodes, and perform final verification of snapshot balances
Jan 01, 2018, 00:00:00
Ardor genesis block timestamp reached
Forging starts automatically
Ardor blockchain becomes fully operational
2018
Continue development according to roadmap
Nxt roadmap
Dec 24-25
Hardfork, freeze trading of ARDR asset and other assets included in the Ardor Genesis Snapshot
Q1 2018
Develop Nxt as a simple and secure crowd funding solution for new ICOs
Position the Nxt Blockchain Creator Kit as a viable solution for new blockchain projects
Add permission layer and peer communication encryption for private blockchain solutions
Q2 2018
Merge features added to Ardor which do not rely on the parent/child chain architecture

Taken from https://www.jelurida.com/ardor-release-timeline

The current price seems pretty high. Ill be buying on the next dip

Just added more Ardor to bags in 3900 area. Laying on nice support here. 

Core dev, Lior Yaffe, interview with Labo Blockchain from Japan https://www.blockchain-labo.jp/interview/nxt_ardor and direct you tube link on Blockchain-Labo Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNz9GJb2wwI

Important announcement regarding Mynxt.info wallet: https://nxtforum.org/mynxt-info/mynxt-web-wallet-closing-in-the-end-of-2017

Ardor is one of the strongest coins out there, while all the other coins are getting bashed really hard. I am glad that I bought more around 3000 while the China panic. Holding my bag for the long run!

Lisk, ETH and Ardor are one of the few projects out there where people are working on with passion to fix real problems in real world use cases.

I really like the President of Lisk, Max Kordek. Watched a lot of interviews of him. I think this project will have a greate future in the next years.

But my concern with such project is, why would it grow significantly if there are already other similar project, yet already bigger. I mean even the title says it's Lisk/Eth biggest competition. But they are miles ahead of it. It takes only one good move from lisk or even ark developers to get their technology widely used, while eth is already very popular and people are even expecting the price of $1000 by the end of the year. So why a new, unknown project is even worth researching into, if there are others that are much more developed. I mean, is one tweak or small difference in execution really enough to beat coins that are at least x10 more valuable and used on the market.

The issue I have with NXT/Ardor team is that they are missing the marketing aspect of their coin, what rely help Ethereum s the way it was branded, NXT foundation use to have sound developers though most of them have moved on to other projects now but they should be doing better than they are currently

It's a good question I would say. Ethereum is already trying to copy Ardor with their Plasma idea - they don't mention Ardor, but the similarities are very clear. So if they get there first, or even second but with their marketing advantage, they might eat the cake again (like with smart contracts, where Burst was earlier).
The advantage on Ardor's side is that the tech is working already. Launch is close. And big projects like Ether will have a harder time catching up with the smaller - more agile ones.
We'll have to see. It's an uphill battle. The rewards are bigger though if Ardor makes it. Ether's cap is already maxed out. I think it will go lower before it can rise again.

Lisk and Ark though are not even that far ahead. It's like 2 steps on coinmarketcap.


No team will ever pull such a marketing stunt like Ether. Brilliant salesmanship - with a clear figurehead that people can follow. Ardor doesn't have any of that so far. 
With the ICO money things will get better - but the market is much more crowded than 2 years ago. Getting attention is even tougher. My hope is that the merits will work out in the long run: NXT still has the best wallet I ever used. I'm not aware of any API rivaling it either. The tech worked perfect for four years. And Ardor is made for developers. And working on testnet - ahead of the direct competition.

Those are wise words, my man.

Core dev Lior Yaffe Q@A about Ardor: https://medium.com/@lyaffe/ardor-q-a-5390fc2294fa

I am keeping ardor tokens in the exchange as I have small amount, should I send it to NXT wallet ??


Is there any benefit of transferring to NXT wallet?

Hopefully this can legitimately go up.

Right now its BTC value has stayed put while the fiat value has been jumping up because of the fact that bitcoin has gone up. Market cap is around 1/5th of what the OP is suggesting is possible in a short amount of time.

I would have thought that NEO would be the biggest competition for ETH/lisk though?

One of the problems with me with ardor is that is really complicated to understand, even the team when you ask them you cannot get few sentences simple description. all is really confusing

on 25th December they will take a snapshot for all NXT wallets (ardor amount) and give the same amount of ardor in the new ardor wallets.

So not sure what will happen if you store them on a exchange. Better get them safe in your wallet before that date.

Just few posts before you posted. Core dev Q@A. If it is still unclear what Ardor is, www.jelurida.com has enough resourses for explaining.

for the technology,it is one of the most promising altcoins
and i just love how it is performing in the market.
still in red but it's the only one in my portfolio that's not bleeding to death.

New Ardor testnet version 2.0.4e released: https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/ardor-v2-0-4e

What's new:

Change log:

This Ardor platform release introduces several important new features.
It is for testnet only, and involves a reset of the existing testnet and
starting from a new Genesis block.


Major new features:

- - Asset Control.

Similar to Account Control which once set requires all transactions of an
account to be subject to approval (i.e. to use phasing), the new Asset Control
feature allows imposing such restriction to all transactions involving a given
asset - such as placing bid and ask orders, transfers, share deletions, and
dividend payments that use the asset as a dividend.
This feature enables for example a private company to issue its shares on the
Ardor blockchain, yet to impose control over who can purchase or sell them, for
example requiring asset transactions to be approved by its board of directors,
or a shareholder voting.
It also allows asset issuers to be KYC compliant, by only allowing verified
accounts to transact with their assets.

- - Composite Phasing

The Composite Phasing ("Smart Phasing") is a very powerful new feature that
allows approval models for conditional transactions to be defined in terms of a
Boolean combination of other approval models, i.e. allows joining the current
primitive approval models such as by whitelist, by asset balance, by hash, etc,
using the AND, OR, and NOT operators.
This allows the new Asset Control feature to be used in combination with the
Account Control feature when required, the transaction execution being made
conditional on satisfying both the Asset Control and Account Control settings.
It also allows for example combining the existing by hash or by transaction
approval models with by whitelist, by balance, etc, approvals, which enables
doing atomic coupling of transactions (including cross-blockchain) even for
multisignature accounts (i.e. subject to Account Control), or with assets
subject to Asset Control.
The NOT operator allows for dead-man-switch type conditions, where a
transaction is executed only if some condition (e.g. revealing a secret) is not
satisfied.

- - By-Property phasing

The new by-property approval model allows the transaction execution to be made
conditional on the sender account or the recipient account having a specific
account property set. If this property is set, the transaction will be executed
immediately, else, a second check whether the property is set is performed at
the finish height defined. This allows for example enforcing KYC by asset
issuers, who can define in their Asset Control settings that only KYC-verified
accounts, labelled with a predefined account property by a trusted authority
(or the asset issuer itself), to perform transactions with their assets.

- - Asset share increase

A new transaction type has been added, allowing the asset issuer to increase
the total number of asset shares in existence. The new shares are allocated to
the asset issuer account, but can be then distributed to shareholders using
a separate dividend payment transaction. This allows corporate actions such as
capital increases or stock splits to be performed.


Imports from Nxt blockchain:

To test the snapshot process planned for the production Ardor release, this
testnet release is based on a Genesis block created from a snapshot of the
production Nxt blockchain as of block height 1558030. The following records
have been imported:

- - Accounts public keys

- - Account balances. ARDOR chain balances are based on ARDR asset balances, and
IGNIS chain balances are based on NXT balances divided by 2, plus JLRDA asset
balances. Each of those has been additionally divided by 2, in order to
allocate 50% of the testnet coins to developer accounts for testing purposes.
BITSWIFT chain balances are based on Bitswift asset balances, plus a 10%
airdrop distributed proportionately to all IGNIS holders.

- - Account info (name and description)

- - Account properties

- - Account control settings, but only for account control by whitelist with no
minimum balance. Other types of account control will not be imported.

- - Account aliases have been imported to the IGNIS child chain.

- - Assets. Only the Janus, JanusXT, and ComJNSXT assets have been imported, with
their asset ids preserved.

- - Monetary system currencies have been imported to the IGNIS child chain, but
only the currency code and name, in order to reserve those. It would be up to
each currency issuer to re-issue the currency with the appropriate properties
and re-distribute it to users.


Modified APIs:

GetAssetDeletes has been replaced with GetAssetHistory, with "deletesOnly", and
"increasesOnly" optional parameters to retrieve only share delete or share
increase history events.

ApproveTransaction now takes multivalued revealedSecret parameter, to allow
revealing multiple secrets for transactions using composite phasing.

SetPhasingOnlyControl now optionally also accepts the account control phasing
parameters in a JSON format, as a single "controlPhasing" parameter.

All CreateTransaction API now optionally also accept the transaction phasing
parameters in a JSON format as "phasingParams" and "phasingSubPolls" parameters.

For by-property phasing, the following new parameters have been added:
"phasingSenderPropertySetter", "phasingSenderPropertyName",
"phasingSenderPropertyValue", "phasingRecipientPropertySetter",
"phasingRecipientPropertyName", "phasingRecipientPropertyValue".

For composite phasing, the boolean expression can be supplied in Disjunctive
Normal Form as "phasingExpression" parameter, with no parentheses, variables
in format [a-zA-Z][a-zA-Z0-9]* and operators "&" (AND), "|" (OR), "!" (NOT).

For each variable appearing in the boolean expression, the phasing parameters
of its sub-poll can be specified as separate parameter with prefix
"phasing<variable name>", or as JSON in the "phasingSubPolls" parameter.


New APIs:

IncreaseAssetShares - create new asset shares. Only the asset issuer can submit
a share increase transaction.

EvaluateExpression - evaluates a Boolean expression, for use in composite
phasing.

ParsePhasingParams - converts phasing parameters, submitted as HTTP request
parameters, to a JSON format.

GetPhasingAssetControl - returns the phasing control for a given asset, if set.

SetPhasingAssetControl - set or unset phasing control for an asset. Only the
asset issuer can change asset control settings. If an asset is not under asset
control, a new asset control can only be set if all shares are currently owned
by the asset issuer.


Ported various bugfixes and improvements from Nxt up to version 1.11.9.

Updated jetty to version 9.3.22, bouncycastle to 1.58, and the izpack installer
to version 5.1.2.

Since this release requires a full reset of testnet starting from a new Genesis
block, if upgrading from 2.0.3e or earlier, in addition to the lib folder the
nxt_test_db folder must also be deleted. The import of snapshot balances on
first start may take a few minutes and should not be interrupted.

The testnet Genesis block timestamp has been set to 00:00 (midnight) UTC time
on Monday, Nov 6th, in order to allow time for users to setup nodes check their
balances, and start forging.
Block generation will commence automatically once that time has been reached,
and only then it will become possible to create and send new transactions.

So it will be like coin swap?? and we will receive the same amount with nothing extra

If you are interested in doing an interview about the project please get in touch as it looks a good project.

What do you mean with nothing extra? You'll receive 0.5 Ignis for 1 Nxt you hold extra and still have your NXT.

I believe he's referring to the second part stating ardor will be 1 to 1, too bad no bonuses .

The bonus was 1 year ago with the Ardor airdrop for NXT....Too bad you are late.

@cryptomessiah What do you think about ethereum's plasma, will it diminish the advantage of ARDR?

Well... for the basics ardor is offering...the price right now is definitely a bonus as well! 3k satoshi will be a Gift.... just wait until the mainnet is launched and you will agree.

Thanks for this thread on ardor. You hear a lot of uücoming things regarding ardor. I will do my own research and then decide.

Cheers

Not a question for me but... :

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ardor/comments/6v8yao/ardor_vs_plasma/

Maybe you also want

Ardor vs. the Competition, Pt. 1: Lisk (https://www.nxter.org/ardor-vs-competition-pt-1-lisk/)
Ardor vs. the Competition, Pt. 2: NEM/Mijin/Catapult (https://www.nxter.org/ardor-vs-competition-nem-mijin-catapult/)
Ardor vs. the Competition, Pt. 3: IOTA (https://www.nxter.org/ardor-vs-competition-pt-3-iota/)
Ardor vs. the Competition, Pt. 4: Waves (https://www.nxter.org/ardor-vs-competition-pt-4-waves/)
Ardor vs. the Competition, Pt. 5: Stratis (https://www.nxter.org/ardor-vs-the-competition-stratis/)
Ardor vs. the Competition, Pt. 6: Komodo/SuperNET (https://www.nxter.org/ardor-vs-competition-pt-6-komodosupernet/)

Cheers!

This is not correct, regarding airdrops. Only Nxt or Ardor clones are obliged to airdrop 10% of their cloned coin to Nxt or Ignis holders. More info about license is here: https://www.jelurida.com/jpl

Not Ardor specific but good news for Ardors first child chain with their ICO being a success. Bullish.


'The IGNIS Token Sale is now over! We collected over $15 M, thank you all for your contribution! The remaining 500 M IGNIS will be given away as a free airdrop to all NXT owners on Dec 25th - holding NXT is your last chance to get IGNIS before the launch!'


https://www.jelurida.com/ico

Very exciting times for Ardor! I need to get some more NXT before the IGNIS airdrop on Dec 25th!

FAQ about Ignis airdrop: https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/FAQ#IGNIS_Airdrop_FAQ

ARDOR SOURCE CODE RELEASED – FINAL STEP BEFORE THE OFFICIAL ARDOR BLOCKCHAIN LAUNCH ON Jan 1st

Ardor a next generation blockchain platform, introduces three major innovations:

•  Unique parent child chain architecture
•  Separation between security and transactional tokens
•  Scalability, first steps towards solving the blockchain bloat problem

Jelurida the development company behind the Nxt and Ardor blockchain platforms (www.jelurida.com) announces today the final testnet release of its new product Ardor. Following its roadmap, Jelurida has also published the source code of Ardor for review. It is now included in the packages available from https://bitbucket.org/Jelurida/ardor/downloads.

This takes place on the fourth anniversary of Nxt’s launch, Jelurida’s flagship product and the world’s first pure proof-of-stake next generation blockchain platform. Ardor is built on top of Nxt’s functional, robust, stable and secure blockchain.

A number of significant new features were added to Ardor to make it a robust business ready platform. Asset Control to support secure share distribution, Composite Phasing to support advanced use cases such as dead man switch, and By Property Phasing to enable account based KYC.

This testnet release provides users a platform to test and prepare their applications for the mainnet launch, while reviewing the source code for potential problems. Here is the link to access the testnet https://ardor.jelurida.com/index.html

Lior Yaffe co-Founder and Managing Director of Jelurida: The release of the testnet is an important milestone setting standards for the whole blockchain industry paving the way for mainstream adoption of blockchain technology. We are very proud of everything we have achieved over the course of the last four years and are excited to see what the future holds as blockchain technology becomes mainstream

Between 5th August and 4th November, Jelurida conducted a successful crowd sale for the first Ardor child chain tokens, IGNIS and raised over $15,000,000.
As announced 50% of the tokens will be air dropped to NXT holders during the last week of December 2017. For more information about the IGNIS airdrop go to https://www.jelurida.com/ico

About, Jelurida and the Ardor and Nxt Group (ANG):

Jelurida B.V. is a software development company engaged predominantly in the creation of Nxt and Ardor blockchain technology. This summer, Jelurida conducted a successful ICO for the tokens of the first Ardor child chain, Ignis and raised over $15m.

The Ardor and Nxt Group (ANG) is an initiative by community members that enables members of the community to participate in the growth of the Nxt and Ardor Platform ecosystem as well as provide businesses, projects, and organizations in the blockchain ecosystem, a platform to gain wider visibility, as well as promote collaborative activities among its members.
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At first i want to thanks DBTT for the great heads up!

Few questions;

I am holding some ardor and just read that in the coming weeks ardor will be replaced in a 1:1 ratio for a new ardor token.
Will my ardor tokens on bittrex automatically be changed to the new ones or do i need to move them to a wallet?

Also will holding NXT on an exchange give you the free Ignis tokens or do you need a wallet for that?

Cheers,

Ruben

Thanks for the info.
I'm going to take a look at it.

No one exchange confirmed, that will help with ARDR and Ignis distribution. So, safest place to keep your funds is wallet you control. More info www.jelurida.com/ico

Maybe anyone is interested in joining ARDOR group in linkedin:

https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12079064

Dear Nxt community,

Jelurida announces the Nxt Snapshot will happen on December 28th at block height 1636363. Please apologize for the delay of this announcement.

Thanks for your patience!

Dear dbt1033,

thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I followed you with ARDR, GAME, FLO and SYS. Have all for free now since I took my profits last night.
Hope to hear more often from you.

Regards

PRESS RELEASE

*** Introducing a gate between the EURO and the Ardor ecosystem to allow companies to adopt the blockchain technology without friction ***

The Ardor ecosystem makes one step further to the implementation of the Blockchain technology for small and medium companies. Jelurida, has partnered with Ardorgate to deliver an Ardor based Euro pegged child chain token named AEUR.

The new AEUR token provides quick and simple entry point into the crypto world using Euro. Each AEUR token will always equal exactly 1€ and this is guaranteed and backed by by Ardorgate, which has partnered with MISTERTANGO bank (www.mistertango.com) as the payment processor.

Using the AEUR token users can trade assets on the Ardor platform and easily exchange into ARDR or child chain coin/token.

“I decided to start this project because I see huge potential on eliminating additional steps, when people exchange crypto to fiat, sell items for crypto, doing ICO, etc. Thanks to Ardorgate many use cases will become available making them faster and easier”, says Martynas Bacevicius (@martis), one of the loyal members of the Ardor and Nxt community, Blockchain Engineer and Founder of Ardorgate.

“The entry point into NXT has always been a problem for our European customers, using the AEUR Ardor child chain we now have a simple solution to convert between the EURO and our tokens. We are excited to work with Ardorgate to deliver the best user experience in the blockchain industry”, says Lior Yaffe Co-founder and Managing Director at Jelurida.

Truly great news. Awesome work!

Just before the end of the year you sold. That will require you to pay capital gains tax in spring 2018 if you are a US resident.

Maybe. Maybe not. Germans have a lot of pride and will pump Lisk. Lisk has Germany on lock...

Wow, Ardor has become one of my biggest profitable bags. I wish I had put more in, x15 already... Thanks again DDBT

I want to see a climbing Ardor as soon the mainnet launched and Trex allows trading again!

This should go to 20k satoshi in no time

Ardor 2.0.9 is released! This is the first production release of the Ardor Blockchain Platform!

Download it from https://www.jelurida.com/ (Ardor downloads) or https://bitbucket.org/Jelurida/ardor/downloads/

The Ardor Genesis Snapshot has been taken at Nxt blockchain height of 1636363.

The Genesis timestamp is set to 00:00:00 UTC, Jan 1st 2018. Everyone with ARDR balance >= 1000 is invited to setup a node and start forging. Block generation will start automatically when the Genesis timestamp is reached. In the meantime, please check your balances and report any discrepancies from what you expected.

The first start after installation may take a few minutes, do not interrupt!

My coins is in Bittrex, how can I know if it's swapped? also I have more than 1000 so what is computer requirement to setup a node?

Is it like mining?

Ask bittrex for your coins. You can run Ardor client even on raspi, not need for big resources (java 8 must be installed). There is no mining, there is POS and forging.

How much we can gain monthly from forging for 1,000 Ardor ?

and we need to keep the power on 24/7 for the most profit right?

You probably get about 1 reward a year, however you would be supporting the network.

I can not understand the prospects of this coin, for what it was released? NXT went to the correction, will not we see the same thing from Ardor?

If you are not willing to do any research then I recommend you not consider this as an investment and move on.

can you spend at least 10mins reading about it mate?

Finally Ardor is released on Bittrex and also tradeable on Upbit.

If Jelurida manages now maybe Bincance on Top...the sky is the limit.

Just look at the daily volume on Upbit. Ardor seems to be hot in Korea right now. Just a matter of time until the price increases

we had a nice correction , from > 20k sats to 8k now
i'm expecting some serious upward movement here

Me too. I had expected even a deeper "dip", because of all the people that only invested because of the launch (sell the news!) and the "free coins". That ARDR is holding in the ~1 billion region (OP was totally right ;) ) with deposits on Bittrex enabled for a while now is a very good sign.

I expect an upward movement once trading with both ARDR and IGNIS has normalized on all exchanges (including Polo) for at least some days, so the "dumpers" are all out and the price can bottom safely. Until then, there may be still buying opportunities under $1 for some days.

Good to read, that experienced members expect an upturn. I baught Ardor at 10000. For day trading. It was swinging between around 9000 and 12000 the last weeks and I wanted to sell them on 12000. Was only a bit worried, that there would ne something elementary, that caused the downturn. Now I will look deeper into Ardor and its project.
BTW: Why didn't Poloniex update the ardr wallets yet? Upgrade was finished already, as I remember right

ARDOR is fantastic, we will see it gain a lot of momentum. Brand new platform which has just successfully launched the IGNIS platform

consider also that the OP prediction of 1billion market cap was made in september, when  the total marketcap of crypto was around 60 billion .

it did more than x10 after that,  so the value has to be adjusted to current situation  :) ;)

So whats going on with Ignis? I heard alot about it and so I was happy to buy at 5500sats, and now its less than half of that. :-\ ??? What happened? Is this dead for good?

All the cryptos suffered from the crash of January, Ignis crashed too. The market will recover, be patient and you'll be rewarded  ;)

Thanks friend, so you think it has the potential that it was hyped for? Or it this a dead coin? Just seems odd it was slaughters much more than most coins, yet looks like it has alot more potential...

Ignis isn't a dead coin. I don't know for the potential, it's difficult to say. I don't have any Ignis in my portfolio, only Ardor that I trust the most between Ardor/NXT/Ignis.

Ignis had a bit bad luck, because only a few days after it was "liberated" to trade at Bittrex the whole cryptocurrency/altcoin market crashed, and "weak hands" freaked out and dumped. The fact that it was distributed as a kind of "airdrop" didn't help here. There is still a "mini time bomb" because it was still not added/rewarded by Poloniex, until this is not resolved the market has not to be viewed as "fully normalized".

In my opinion, it will recover when real usage is found. Ignis - because of its superior scalability to other coins - is a good currency for regular payments of goods and services. It is a better alternative to coins like Bitcoin Cash, LTC or Dash. So people who want it to succeed - above all, the Jelurida / ANG team - should try to get it accepted by payment processors.

Then obviously it success depends on the success of the Ardor platform as a whole. For example, an addition of AEUR to major exchanges (as a competition to Tether) should also bring new users and could trigger a market recovery.

Dominium group is planning to launch its blockchain on Ardor.

They operate in the property sales, ranting and things like that, a huge sector ( they manage properties worth hundreds of millions  ).

This is going to be huge

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/people-able-invest-property-1-130000009.html?guccounter=1

Crazy to me that Poloniex still didn't distribute the IGNIS. I mean... I get that it's more work for them. But surely they can't just wait until people forget about it‽
Just implement it - it's not that hard if you have Ardor running anyways.


Dominium is pretty interesting. More Coins like that will come ... my bet is that IGNIS will gain usage because it's the network between all those coins. So I consider it vastly undervalued ... it should be higher than Ardor.


I think the C2C ATMs will use AEUR. Would be great if exchanges would pick it up too. Don't see that anytime soon though.

Good price to get some ARDR right now, unless alts have another blood bath