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The restrictions on this forum are sub-par. The part where you have to browse for four hours is kind of reasonable and understandable.

However, having to post 5 times is ridiculous. The reason being is that it encourages spam posts. If you go to the newbies section most of is spam. The reason being is people just spam posts in order to post in the other forums.

This is a terrible idea. Now I have to sit here for four hours before released my project, and I have to make tons of these stupid pointless posts.

Thanks bitcointalk.

A newbie complaining about being a newbie. Priceless  8)

Right? :)

In all seriousness though, I post on reddit all the time, and I think it's going to continue being that way because of this.

I don't think 5 posts are much, if you have to browse for 4 hours anyway.

It's a shame u don't understand why there are 5 post newb restrictions put in place.  

Long story short, we all had to deal with them for a good reason.  If it were up to me the post count would go up.

+1

I'd personally make it twenty posts, and twenty-four hours.

Back on topic: Yes, most newbies have no idea why that's there, and if they could see, the answer is already in the Newbie section.

Same I think it is way too lenient. People still complain, it's hilarious. I remember just reading some stickies and asking some questions I was curious about. I still do that today actually lol.

I love it!! ;D

It is a bit somewhat silly, but will filter out a lot of nonsense.

I understand the reasoning but it does tend to make a person post needlessly at first.

Also it doesn't work. I see my total time logged in as over four hours and my post count is 5. 6 with this one and I can't talk outside of this subforum...

I'm assuming it's just an anti-spam measure. It's a nominal amount of time and effort for someone new to do this, but it's more of a bitch for a spammer or a bot to do.

Although I am a bit annoyed atm. I think its in essence a good idea  :)

As suggested in another post, it might be a good idea if there would be an alternative like donating a tiny bit of bitcoin to a good cause to avoid the 5 posts + 4 hours. Some people won't mind to donate to a good cause as time is not always available :-)

What they don't know is that the Newbie section might be one of the best boards, since there's not a lot of scammers or nonsense.

So fiesty!! :D Just relax guys, lurk a bit and have fun : ]]

Problem is... I have to make 5 "meaningless" posts before entering a discussion I really want to participate in.
Anyways... it's not the end of the world.

I understand perfectly. However saying you must post 5 times encourages spam posts. I'd rather just stick with reddit anyway.

Yeah that would help. I'd totally hand over like 0.01 to skip this shit.

Thing is, I'm not even a noob! I post a lot on reddit! Like on average like two posts per day (on /r/bitcoin)

Strange, you show up as Jr. Member which I assumed is what you need to post elsewhere.

If I had known that I needed to browse for four hours aside from posting five comments, I would've signed up sooner. I've been browsing for two to three hours now.. *smh* .. I doubt it's possible to get credited for that time. Anywho..

Heh, thanks! Among all the scouring I've done today and late yesterday, this literally does appear to be the center of the Bitcoin Galaxy. Nice name for this virtual solar system. =p

I actually agree with this, it makes sense to have to browse for a set amount of time but a quota of posts is a bad idea. Pretty much everyone's first 5 posts are spam posts which lowers the quality of the newbie section so greatly. This could deter new users from becoming active and using the site.

If we all agree that the 5 post rule contributes to worse newbie posts, then spam posts definitely don't reveal a user's future forum behavior. I've only browsed here for a couple hours, but I've already seen many posts from people waiting to post their interesting questions to boards outside of newbie jail.

Post count should be higher  ::)

Conceptually, I think that the restrictions placed on new members are a good idea. It creates a modest barrier to entry that eliminates much of the "plz guys help plz" sort of posts one sees elsewhere.

I might prefer, however, an upvoting system similar to what StackExchange uses, or a moderator-based judgement call on when to grant new members full standing.

I agree with you. But i guess rules are rules.

is not stupid but 4 hours is kind of to much .. 5 post is easy.

I am have a board where you need about a month to get out of newbie part. Spam is reduced to zero :)

I'm new to this and don't mind the inconvenience -- but someone with more experience might find it annoying. This is my 1/5.

MicroGuy: I'm sorry, but at 500 posts to get out of the n00b part of the forum, I'd be hunting up ways to contact someone outside of this 'Bitcoin Galaxy'. I'm also not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. I hope it's the latter.. *rolls eyes*

Ok, time to hit five posts before I pass out..

Must advance.. now all I need to do is get my two hours and twenty-one minutes of browsing time in..

Time to give my pillow some head, and my blanket some ass. *poof*

I'd love to see an either/or scenario. I've spent an incredible amount of time on here reading and browsing, but haven't added much. 5 posts is easy to get, but it appears for most people these 5 posts aren't adding much to the conversation. How about 24 hours of browsing time, and 1 solid introduction post?

Eh, it's frustrating having to post where you don't necessarily want to - but it keeps the post quality higher on the other boards, right?

I wouldn't mind a solid introduction post.. if that would get me past the ten post requirement for getting links in my signature (required for a draw I wanna participate in). I also wouldn't mind being credited for the two to three hours of browsing time I did before actually signing up.

As for keeping the other parts of the forum clean from frustration of having to deal with the five post and four hour browsing requirement, some might get frustrated enough that it might get carried to other parts of the forum.. where I suppose the mods will put them in check if it gets that bad.

Alright, time to see if my second attempt..

..at passing out will work. *rolls eyes*

Well we are considered newbies on the forums, which does not mean we are are newbs in RL  8)

At least i hope...

i'm a nub, she's a nub, and we're all nubs hey
http://youtu.be/Yjr5TR8_Zws (http://youtu.be/Yjr5TR8_Zws)

same here.. i spent alot of hours in this forum just reading diffrent topics.. but rules are rules and i think it's good like that. There are really alot of scammers and if this rules help it's good for everyone

Four hours isn't much at all and 5 posts is nothing really. You should be reading the majority of the time anyways. I don't see a problem.

I do agree, it's quite hard for us to post anywhere useful if we have to make 5 random posts first

This is one of my 5 posts. I'm trying to PM someone necessary.

five posts is easy (and quick), but four hours------- it seems an eternity (particularly if you are not new to bitcoin)

It's not stupid. It's there to reduce spam on the other boards, I think.

I think it's also to do with bots as well. I guess it's harder to bot 5 replies as well?

It also can give people a decent indication of what a person is like. Someone who makes 5 genuine, constructive posts as a newbie, they're far more likely to be a more reliable member of the community.

Then again, you got a decent argument. I'm not fussed though.

We'll all be alright  ;)

All it took was one morning's browsing for me (and not all of that on bitcointalk, just come back to the site occasionally and the timer keeps counting up). So from registration to Jr Member was just 12 hours (including sleep time!)

Come on, if I can do it, you can do it too!  :-*

So a lot of spam gets put into the newbie section because they have restrictions? This seems alright since it restricts spam a bit of the spam from spilling over to the better content. I am all for it...no matter how annoying it is to have to wait!

edit: 5th post!

Whenever someone whines habitually, you may want to look up their profile and their post history. It will help you decide whether to add the person to your ignore list. What people say in their profile may or may not be true but it is still revealing, and of course the post history never lies - it is what it is, which makes it very useful.

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Name:    Plazmotech
Posts:    11
Position:    Newbie
Date Registered:    April 14, 2013, 04:09:22 PM

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Gender:    Male
Age:    12

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But you won't make genuine constructive posts if you are limited to a section full of spam and noobs.

Hello there.

Yes, it's a little bit annoying to wait for four hours !! but by my side, I prefer to post 5 posts rather than to surf 4 hours on the site, because when you hit bitcoin for the first time, you arrive here one or two time, for me, a couple, and you pass more than 4 hours on this forum before to have something to say to all of us. But 5 posts. If you search a little bit (coin), you make it in a couple of minutes. But me, I was not be abble to make it !!! shame !!

See you

Then you have a problem. Luckily, you can solve it easily by posting genuine constructive posts.    :)

???
Why should you bother posting in a section were you won't receive any meaningful answer (unless you're very lucky?).

I tried that: once I got no answer I gave up. Then I was whitelisted, and was able to post elsewhere, were people actually read and understand what you write.

Looks ok, at least we get time to read through what is on the forums

while I do think the five post count contributes to spam and I don't really like it because most of the posts are only there to get the post Count higher
at least it keeps the spam in one place, the newbie forum

The 5 posts is still alright but the 4 hours is a bit long

I am almost there, after this I am going to post on a group buy and get my hands on ASIC shares.

this makes 4 i thinks. gotta find another

Your logic is strange.  The fact that all the spam is in the newbies area is exactly why there's a 5 post "thing".  Think about it a little bit...

It doesn't encourage spam.  It identifies spammers so they can be removed before they infect the rest of the forums.

The logic used by some people is so foreign to me sometimes...

-Burger-

I don't understand.      :)

Edit: I apologize for my snarky comment above. I just looked up your old newbie posts and they were indeed interesting and they deserved interesting answers. I'm sorry you didn't get them at the time.

Try to read once again. It's helps sometimes...

Restrictions like this are great in theory but terrible in practice.   

I've been on the network for over three years but b/c I like the concept of anonymity and hadn't gotten around to hopping in the forum, I'm new and a potential threat.

Bah.

Spammers gonna spam either way.  The more hoops put up for legitimate users... the fewer legitimate users that make it through.

...but here's me hopping another post hoop.

*bounce*

It's reasonable. 5 posts to various topics, be constructive or not is fairly quick to do. Browse 4 hours? If I'd registered the first time I visited bitcointalk.org, it would easily be 30+ hours, so again it seems reasonable.

I didn't like newbie status at all. I am not the sort of person to just jump into something without understanding it. Before I came to this forum I read up on bitcoin extensively on sites like bitcoin.it. So I hated being confined to this one forum.

There is a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0) where people can get out of newbie jail if they demonstrate enough knowledge about bitcoin. But I think whitelisting is done manually so it might take some time anyway. I think an automated multiple choice test of sorts should be made to test people's knowledge of bitcoin for the purpose of whitelisting. The questions would be randomly picked from a pool of questions to prevent gaming the system.

i agree with you.

The only reason I don't like it is because I prefer to lurk and don't want to comment. I'm only commenting here to get past the 5 posts. I don't mind the 4 hour restriction.

I have been lurking for quite some time on this site.

Finally made an account, and now stuck in this walled garden that is the newbie forum.

Soon I will be free!

Well, here's post number one, in a very appropriate topic.

i think it's 15 mins til freedom for me... :-*

Been planning this jailbreak for forever and a day, or so it seems.  Why has BTF foresaken me?  why?

Lol may as well get my posting started.... I've been lurking along time can't be bothered to post usually as the posts want to post in are for the adults in the adult section of the forum.

Yeah, I am new to this so I don't really have too much to say. Just kind of posting a few questions in the noob area so I can posts elsewhere when I like.

I don't get the reasoning. The first part (you prefer to lurk and don't want to comment) makes perfect sense to me. The second part (you are only commenting to get past the 5 posts) doesn't because it appears to be inconsistent with the first part. You can lurk forever if you like, without ever having to post - the only reason to make five posts is so that you can post in other areas, which is of course not lurking. No big deal - just puzzling.

I thought your fourth post was interesting, by the way.

For some values of interesting. But you're up late (me too, supposed to be in bed but this is far too much fun). Dragonborn myself but Alan's my hero too.

Hehe - I meant interesting in the context of this thread, whiling away the time until the ES VI comes out and/or my BFL order arrives. Something like that.

Yes newbies are fun (I was one myself, but 14 hours ago, where will I will be in just a few days from now?), but Dragonborn Cymru, not Skyrim (though I do play, but not so keen on the thief class, brought up with all the wrong (traditional) values, how times change).

I've commented on BFL just recently. Hope that's an early order you have.

And I really ought to be in bed (this time last night I was Brand New, and its showing).

I  am too in the same boat, I don't know how many posts do you need to get out of newbie section

I've been a horrible lurker and this is what I get for that.  :'(

This shows that you not only didn't bother to find that info (readily available in the "NEWBIE README" sticked topic), but you didn't even read this thread itself.

Sad.

I would like to agree with you all! Being as things are you won't mind my post to help me out of cell block newb so I can actually post on the things I need.

While I am here if there are any users from UK please comment on my idea of "Bitcoin Swap Meet"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225164.0

Also if you know how to fix the pain in the bum bitgem wallet.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=225075.0

I do understand why you have this restriction but it will only cuase a lot of pointless posts. Should start a thread so pointless posts can be burned up!

Thanks.

Man im so pissed ive been lurking forever and not signed up! Least im in the same boat as you guys.  ;)

Wish I'd thought about this before... I've been browsing off and on for two months, and I've only logged about 26 minutes, lol

5 posts are not much

Just because everyone had to do it does not mean it makes sense.

Oh the I'm-a-part-of-the-system-and-will-just-follow-the-rules mentality. Obey!

These restrictions are better for newbies. Because you can find most of the stuff you are looking for has already been discussed.

Agreed. I also have a lot of spammy posts done while waiting.

please speak with data. How much nonsense could be filtered by this restriction?

Well put and generally speaking I'd agree with you.  For this topic though I feel it makes total sense.

You just responded to my comment and made a rational point, now do that 4 more times is all that is expected of you.  Don't you see how that makes sense, instead of letting any random scamer hop on the board and create multiple accounts at will?  Spamming all topics with no regards for the quality of the forum or the readers that use it.

If you want to be here and contribute and learn without having to deal with non stop trolling nonsense multiple times a day then you should appreciate that those before you and after you will do what is necessary to maintain a functional environment.

Because your new I just assume you don't fully understand how many scammers are around and how much damage they can have on the forum and how it funcitons but you will over time and I suspect you will understand where I'm coming form imo.  
Like it or not the rule is put in place for a good reason IMO and I support it for the right reasons. If you don't that is ur right, simple as that.  Hope u enjoy the boards.

5 posts are going to be hard without spamming :P

Personally it took me a while to figured out why I can't post on other sections!!
Now I'm reaching number 4 post and I hope I can start posting elsewhere SOON...

I think its reasonable

Are you sure? The front page of the newbie board currently has several "free bitcoin" threads going. Granted, some of them might be legit, but I have trouble believing that there are people that will come to the newbie board and just hand out money.

But what do I know? It's my first post here in newbie prison.

This is true, but sad. I've been using bitcoin for a while but I haven't registered here because I just can't stand using forums. I hate having to read every post in a thread when most of the posts are chaff that should just be downvoted to oblivion(sorry for the redditism).

Useless/unrelated posts in a thread appear in line with useful and contributory posts. Displaying "good" and "bad" posts in the same way like this encourages side discussions unrelated to the original topic wherein people try to correct or argue with the people that make the "bad" posts.

The result is hundreds(in some cases) of pages of comments that may or may not be pertinent to whatever it is you're looking for. Unfortunately, the only way to figure out which of those comments are pertinent and which are not is by reading through hundreds of pages of them!


I would prefer a layout that facilitated the inevitable spawning of side-discussions and allows the most useful/relevant comments in those side-discussions to be provided more visual weight.

Newbie newbie newbie la. Oh boy, looking forwards to being free from Newbiw prison. ;-)

Here's why this rule is useless. I had my first five posts within 20 minutes or so. And it's easy with the 4 hour thing too... If you're using Firefox, download an extension called ReloadEvery and install it. Log in to your account on this forum and enable ReloadEvery to reload every 30 seconds or 1 minute. Make sure your computer won't go to sleep or shut down in the next 4 hours and go about your business. When you return in 4 hours you should be all set!

Good point. Maybe we should go with a payment system to use these forums?

so newbie to newbie - 5 hours ale fine but the 5 posts - ok thats the rule... consider this post here as nr1 out of 5 spam posts ;-)

never the less great stuff here - would be defiantly to lazy to produce 5 spam type posts if i didn´t think it´s worth in the end...

greets to all of you

That will definitely cut down on spammers!

I'm not opposed to the whole 5 post limitation.  It makes sense that you'd want people that are going to be active on the forum.  The other side of that is like many of you have mentioned.  You'll get quite a few single garbage posts.  The 4 hour limitation is more of an issue imho... but then again it does force new people to browse through the forums a bit and possibly learn the answers to some of the questions that they might have. 

I should have responded to the whole payment suggestion thread as well.  Here is my take on it.  While those of you that suggest a payment/gift methodology to help reduce spammers etc it also prevents individuals such as myself that are looking to get into bitcoin mining.  If you're new it will take a while to get to the point where you can actually spend a fraction of a BC to donate.  If I had a mining setup already running then it may not be an issue.  Yea I know late to the party as usual.  Well at least I'm trying to attend :D

As a newb, I still don't know the reason. Can you enlighten me? Or at least post a link to a page that explains the reasoning behind this rule?

I have to assume that they're doing this because they're trying to cut down on spam, but you can still have a bot write 5 generic posts and refresh the page regularly for 4 hours.

So, if it needs to be five posts, and the consensus is that it should stay that way, who am I to argue. That time is better spent posting completley meanigless stuff like this posting. Yes, that is right, I just wasted a few seconds of your life, dear reader. Now, move on, nothing to see here.

Reasons for newbie forum:

What is a Bitcoin?

Can I borrow x BTCs from someone?

How long before I get a Bitcoin with 20 Mh/s?

How long before I get a Bitcoin mining with a CPU?

What is CGMiner?

Why cant CGMiner detect my integrated graphics chipset?

How can I speed up CPU mining?

Can someone give be 1 BTC?

How do you use the CMD?

What is a .BAT file?

Does anyone even accept BTC?

Whats the point of the Newbie forum?

How many posts do I have to make before I get out of the Newbie forum?

How many hours am I supposed to be online to leave the Newbie forum?

Why cant I PM anyone?

Why cant I reply to a thread?

There are more!

I apologize if I offend anyone, I like helping out a lot in the newbie forum but these are the types of questions that I see everyday, the same questions every day!. I know, there are newbies that aren't newbies at all but everyone has to go through it.  ;D

Well, quite, and I find myself replying to your post, and adding to the jungle of Spam, merely to top up my post count.

I can. I remember when these forums were under attack. Each day many new accounts were created just to post FUD. Posts like "BITCOIN HAS BEEN DECLARED A PONZI BY THE FBI!!!" or other crap. Some people claimed that they were being offered money for any bitcoin hating article, blog, or post they created. These posts eventually became more common than productive posts.
5 posts and 4 hours is the mildest option to combat this problem. I like the idea of being able to read for free, buy paying for posts. It weeds out the kids and idiots. (Idiots often have no extra money, as they have lost it via idiocy). 

Seems like a reasonable idea to prevent spam.

They are perfectly logical rules implemented to protect the community.

Ah well, in a few moments i'm over it...

I have been lurking in the forums for a while now, and I find that, overall, the quality of posts and discussion here are much better than the chum bucket of "open" forums.

The criteria might be arbitrary, but it is effectively the "price" you are paying to gain entrance into the discussion.  If you don't value the forum at a level to make 5 posts in the newb area, and browse for 4 hours, than you are unwilling to pay the (arbitrary or otherwise) required "cost" to gain posting privileges.

Keeping forums clean is a tough job, and better some simple filters than moderators being overburdened or the discussion being swallowed by spammers.

YAY!! 100 posts in three days. Full Member!!

I told you it could be done ...  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223845.msg2357814#msg2357814

And I've done so, so much more!

CHALLENGE!! Quit griping and get posting  ;D

It's acceptable to take some actions to prevent spammers. But 4 hours online rule quite long at least it should be 1 or max 2 hours..

If it actually prevents stupid questions, I shudder to think what this forum would look like were it a free-for-all. I've been reading Slush's thread for months, and every page or so there's a question about how the payout is calculated, even though it's been explained many, many, many times over.

Try the "ignore poster" button. It makes most of the chaff go away, with a bit of practice. You can change your mind should the need arise.

Nope, gotta pace myself. Full Member was a full time job these last few days.

Perhaps by the end of the month. If I don't burn out (that's the problem with us bipolars).

But enough about me. GET POOSSSSSSTING!

I agree to an extent, I wanted to PM someone on here but have to wait and make posts to be able to but it is a small price to pay to (help) alleviate the number of 'hit and runners' 1 post heroes I suppose.

Who cares, it's only 5 posts.

And it's 5 posts of confirmation of other' comments  ;D

...And so the problem with this BS rule shows itself... >:(

Isn't the rule promoting posting silly messages like *cough*cough* this one? :)

At least it's here and not on all of the other boards the forum has.

because of this post, this newbie. bitcointalk will add-up 15 on your required post and 24 hours of browsing . . .

Long story short, we all had to deal with them for a good reason.  If it were up to me the post count would go up.

It is kind of a strange rule, but I guess it keeps the one-day fly spambots away....(not including this post  ;D)

It definitely weeds out a lot of the bs & makes the user read more which is a good so they might not ask dumb questions.

Rather shorten the time a bit to 1 hour. Should be enough to get familiar with newbie basics.

In the end, we are all here because we want to get involved with the community some how, and the community has a reputation for being a great source of bitcoin info. If newbs like me could just make junk posts etc from the moment they register, then spammers would be all over it creating multiple accounts and submitting junk.

This safeguards the community, and makes you appreciate why you wanted to join in the first place.

First post on this Forum and i totally agree with the rules.  It takes quite some time to get used to the many different ways in which you can deal with Bitcoins.  4 hours reading will stop you making noob posts in the wrong place for a question that has probably already been asked and answered. Without doubt you will have LOTS of questions when starting out and if you cant be bothered to research first please add this 17e7D7VHcibmm2a3cEwNpVfjFjMwckXMu9 to the send field of your wallet.  You do not deserve to be in bitcoins!!!

I can understand that I too have websites that get lots of spam..... but killing 4 hours is pretty painful....when all you want to do is post in the topic you came here for.... :-*

But rules is rules and we have to follow to be part of this great resource  :-X

Just leave the browser open and go for a coffee.

Useless posting to get the post count up, this one is painful...

You actually need to browsemultiple pages once every 5 mins or in order for the time to count.

i am a noob to the forum and was a bit annoyed at times that i couldnt contribute to certain threads but I eventually came to agree with the policy and actually believe the time requirement should be increased sometime in the near future, the post count requirement just generates spam in this forum.

I'm not sure if i agree or disagree with the 5 posts. I get why its there but I just think a spammer could do the 5 posts in 1 minute if they wanted. The four hour thing makes sense and sure you really should be reading for at least 4 hours if your a newbie .. although if your an experienced bitcoin trader it might be annoying but hey that's the rules.

Do people automatically get removed from admin after both limits are hit or does the admin check the validity of the 5 posts that are made .. If they enforced a "make the 5 posts good ones" then I totally understand them. One thing for sure is that both limits are set from trial and error so what ever the reason you just gotta respect them.

Its automatic, so the 5 posts can be anything as long as the posts are not deleted by moderators

well I will go around the posts  I am in real need to send a PM.....

It's really not that bad. If you actually want to participate here then you won't have any problems getting out of the newbie jail.

I agree. If you are annoyed because you can't post your loan request or your sophomoric rant, then you are not ready to post in the general forums. Spend sometime reading and searching instead. You will likely find that it has all been talked about before. 

Sigh post 4...only 3 more hours and I'm out of jail.

Good luck. Believe me, those hours will fly by very quickly.

I agree totally. I am a newbie myself and now I have to make 5 post.  But hey , at least its not 10 post or more right?

Personally, I'd prefer if newbies could post anywhere and posts would have to wait to be moderated until a member was approved and considered to be contributing and not spamming.

This, of course, creates more burden for the moderators who, AFAIK, aren't getting paid.

All in all, not a bad deal. It'd be nice if there were a good supply of topics that were actually good conversation rather than just gimmicks to hit the post count, but alas...

Yeah, that's the spirit. You always have to look on the bright side of things.

The problem is that as a noob, I haven't got anything that useful to contribute. And all the stupid questions, as we are constantly reminded, have already been answered somewhere. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Grammar could do with a bit of tidying up around here though. Would that be a useful contribution for the next few posts?

Maybe. But it's simple to get out 5 posts then lurk around in other parts of the forum that actually interest you wihout posting and bam - you're out of newbie jail.

Kind of agree with the sentiment of the thread but at the same time I understand why it's necessary. The only reason that I registered on this forum was to post in a thread about 7970 LTC hashrate to share how I was able to increase my hashrate from 500KH/s to 700KH/s in the event that someone else fell for the XFX 7970 noob trap.

It would be a genuinely annoying and redundant rule if the rest of the site did not participate in the Newbies section. That's fortunately not the case though and there's an abundance of topics to make 5 posts about.

I just want to PM to canary to order those usb blades

Ironically, I was browsing for at least 4 hours as a guest but now that doesn't count at all :(

I know the feel

Its not so bad

Think of it like initiation. It's a bit hard to physically haze you online so mental hazing is all they have left.

Hello there,

And here is my fifth post... after several week stucked to 4...
I need to ask why slush's pool's not responding for me...

Bye !

DS

After several weeks of just reading I finally found out why a can not post in official forum  >:(

Hello i'm ParadisehellBTC i play to Btc and you ? what's your game ?  ( Reference WoW )

Even though its a pain, as I have been reading the forums for awhile ..just never had anything to say, I can understand why the limits are in place. 

Who cares, it's only 5 posts. ;D

Hi all,
i'm Newly registered here and find this scheme also ridiculous.
Especially since I actually wanted to issue a warning about a bitcoin site which apparently is not able to pay

However, I wanted to first post in the relevant thread and receive feedback from the Admin directly. But I can not because I could be a spammer ^^

but here reading for hours and write just to be able to warn the community, means that the comunity needs no warnings.
In this sense see again and have fun with the "non-freedom of speech".

mcgee

I agree. Just because you haven't been on this site, doesn't mean you know nothing about bitcoin. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

I don't mind having to post several times. Over the course of the few required posts, moderators and the others in the bitcoin forum community could tell if you'll add anything helpful to the community or just here trolling.

Hello, all. Of course I agree with autor. For example, I don't need to be part of community. I need just to reply one "support" topic with one service. Maybe in future I will message in bitcointalk everyday. But now - I need just to send ONE message.

I'll chime in too and up my post count by 1.   ;D   I think the restrictions are great in that they help keep the spam counts down on the other areas.  My only fear is what happens if you overcome the restrictions, but then let your activity lag (due to holiday, everything working fine (ha!), or other life issues.)   Do you get demoted and have to overcome the restrictions again?

ive seen some of the boards without requirements theres so much spam you would think its red neck new years so
if we have to hve 5 posts to keep the spamming down so im all for it

My vote is for kind of annoying. Why not add a date variable into the status, as in, 'your account is over 4 months old and you've been lurking forever, we'll let you post...'

just a thought, mods.

5 posts isn't much. If someone wants to spam he will do it anyway.

Could make a vote from all members to see if it is popular, otherwise speak to the forum owner(s).

If it helps kill spammers and scammers then im all for it, wont take long to get past the count with all the content in here.

cheers

I'm annoyed by this too, but I discovered that you can send a PM after making 1 post. I needed to send a PM but I couldn't, so I was glad the restriction was lifted immediately.  :P

The 5 post requirement is necessary to protect against exploits and build trust in the community, among several other exploits, there are thousands of forums littered with spam for seo gains crowding such forum resource with less than useful information. Rules are made to help the community.

Still a better idea than Twilight

Its all but simple that every Moderator would like to maintain some standards and quality regarding their forums. I dont seem to find any issue at all especially as their are many other forums whose rules are much more strict.

think the forum is old enough to prove this concept as conceptful.
nevertheles you can always improve, so why not trust the new users more..?

First off, great site with a wealth of information providing way more than 4 hours of browsing so time requirement not really an issue. Five posts no biggy either.

General policy implemented by an elitest group who have 'gotten it' aimed at a group of n00bs who have not, kinda lame. Thankfully most sites do not embrace such a draconian approach of attempting to control fresh blood to their ranks. Blood the site depends on if it wants to continue to grow...

Slightly OT but related to general usage of site, my lil android would really appreciate next and previous buttons.  PIA to touch the small page numbers...

Search needs some help too. It is fine to limit frequency for performance reasons but search results should be part of bread crumbs and allowed to be redisplayed without the 90 second rule kicking in....

I don't understand this rule at all.  I'm just trying to get in contact with a specific user, they should at least allow messaging for newbies.  Is the check on 5 posts automated?

10 posts sounds like a good limit  :)

I don't mind making 5 posts (well, 4 after this!).  One thing I'm concerned about is the 4 hours browsing. 

Why? I tend to lurk, like I did here.  I've already read hours and hours before I felt the need to register to post something.  Will those hours previous
to registration count?  Probably not.

That said, no reason to complain, just meet the requirements and move on.

While I can see how the post limiting to this subforum for new people can prevent spammers and force people new to Bitcoins to read through information more and figure things out a little bit before invading other parts of the forum it can be quite annoying in other aspects. For example the main reason I joined this forum was to share some information inside of the Armory subforum which I thought would be useful for them, but because of being forced to post inside of here the information/post was almost immediately buried due to the high rate of posts/moderation in here plus the information would almost certainly not be useful to people just starting out.

Same here: I've lurked for a lot, now I've seen an user who sell btc with a good price -just want to buy it- but i need to post and wait, it's a bit annoying, but I can understand  :)

It's been very refreshing and illuminating reading through all of your personal opinions on the new member restrictions. /sarcasm

Everybody knows that newbies posts their "opinion" just to break the newbie's prison  ;D

Come on . 5 post and browse for 4 hours not a hard thing to do

Its very reasonable and there for people's protection. Most people never get hacked or anything until they get involved with bitcoins. There's some straight up assholes here.

Agree with you 100%

I was stumped by this rule.  I registered a month ago and couldn't figure out why I couldn't post.

I realize it's at the bottom of the signup form.  Guess I should have read the whole page, eh?

However, it would be a nice touch to move the Newbies forum to the top of the forum list for newbies only.

I completely missed the fact that there's a newbies forum further down the page.

Just a thought to ease the pain for future newbies.

it was meant to prevent spamming/trolling.

They should make it more obvious. A lot of newbies have difficulty finding this section.

3 hours too long.

yeah what that guy said...

Some people just like to roam around the forums for hours... Its a shame in order to reply to anything other than these posts is sad.

I've been roaming around these forums for about a year now created an account recently and now have to post crap like this to finally get actively involved.

The restrictions that are in place are pretty meagre so I don't understand why people still complain..

Auto Refresh Plus, and go for a walk, when you came back a few hours logged in have passed...

I tend to agree with the OP on this one. 

In fact, another thing which degrades the forums is the selling of sig space.  I get paid for posting many times per month.  Thus I say stupid things like this post.  That's life, I guess.

It's a free market...

These rules are too strict, it should only be 2 hours and 3 posts.

mee too.i never read it that i must make 5 post..and not understoot wy i never could repley nou i know..

thanks all

I'm assuming it's just an anti-spam measure. It's a nominal amount of time and effort for someone new to do this, but it's more of a bitch for a spammer or a bot to do.

Not complaining that I get paid.  Simply admitting that me writing nonesense for pay lowers the quality of the board.

I´m a newbie here, but i´m okay with 5 posts and 4 hours browsing around.

Reddit does the same thing, IIRC.

As ive been browsing for hours before being able to register its a bit annoying, but im sure ill forget about it by 2m:)
/post5

I have browsed about 10 newbie topics and have nothing intelligent to say..  ::)

I am having trouble sending my filler posts. It says that I have already posted 360 seconds a go, bit I havn't. How can I complain about the minimum post requirements while also increasing my number of posts?

That's why the newbie restriction is stupid if everyone have to do that...

Hi this is my first post. ;D
What i do for send a message?

well I signed up to make complain on Casino company. 

Well it appears 4 hours of browsing and posting random messages is what i need to do to contact someone that i want to purchase hardware from. Rules are Rules right.

4 posts in 5 hours though? Easy who cares

i agree that;
if you put post limits 5 10 etc. forum goes into garbage.

What are we arguing about?

I don't mind going through hoops. Keeps the riff-raff out of the zoo.

I wish counting my BTC took longer  >:(

Meh, generally speaking I support these kind of newbie-restricting rules. But now I'm in a bit of a hurry to be able to post in a groupbuy thread in this forum and am slightly irritated, but I'll get over it :p.

Try this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0

Don't know if still active...

Oh well, I can wait for another 3 hours. It's not THAT urgent and I guess it will take just as long for a moderator to notice and approve my whitelist request. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Whatcha group-buyin'  :D If ya don't mind me being nosy. Feel free to say f-off!

Time for more tea! 3 hours left!

+1.

Yes this is all very silly.

I've been dying to post in another thread about USD withdrawals for MtGox as i've been waiting on a USD withdrawal for like 3 months now. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179586.2200)

Not only have I had to wait like a month before registration on bitcointalk was FINALLY reenabled, I have to now waste time posting in the newbie forums... omg, it just feels like everyone is trying to put up artificial walls and barriers. I just wanted to post on that thread over a month ago D:

I'm interested in the R10 thread by dyslexiczombei. Take a quick peak :). I'm interested in buying 10 shares. Check out my 'newbie introduction' thread.
No need to tell anyone to f-off if everyone's polite.

Ah, your tea suggestion is making me want soup :p.
Time for some soup! Also 3 hours left!

(the 360 delay between posts is quite annoying)

Not getting any less silly, guys.

2 hours and 40 minutes of silly-time remaining for me. Should be getting a bit less silly now...

lol.

Waiting waiting waiting... might go get a coffee. It's a real slow afternoon at work, too.

The real sad part about this is that i've probably read 100 hrs of bitcointalk but none of that counts because i didn't have an account yet..... BECAUSE I COULDN'T MAKE ONE. Damn registrations being disabled for so long. *frustrated*

Someone's going to start a conspiracy theory, registrations disabled for a month and all these artificial walls to stop people complaining about mtgox and their ridiculously slow (or in many cases with USD, simply no withdrawals).

Ditto.  Can't even pm a member to get in on a group buy.  Wth?

I'm not even off noob status yet and someone gave me a bad rating for trying to talk about a certain coin. Lame, but at least I'll be out of the newb section in like 15 minutes.

thanks for the explanations for the required posts for newbies

no problem.

Is this my post #5 yet?

All of the good/interesting posts are in newb-restricted forums. Not much to comment on in the newb forum.

But I see why they have the restriction since a bitcoin forum is a target for scammers and spammers.

It's quite simple really, without the newbie restrictions spam bots would make a mess of the forums.  This restriction breaks the most common bot posting profiles, thus making the forums a bit more manageable to moderate.  So yeah, you have to make a few worthless posts before you can post in the main forums.  There's plenty to read to keep you occupied in the meantime, and you're certainly most welcome to have meaningful conversations in the newbie area.   

So many scammers. And they come in all shapes and sizes, so everyone, especially new members, should drill the word "escrow" into their brains.  ;)
A fool and his BTC will always be easily parted, but communities have always been the best defense against predators.

Yeah, I didn't know about the posting limit or I would've started a lot sooner. Have the 4 hours, but now I just have to make useless posts in here until I have the limit.

I finally joined the site to comment on the ufasoft coin program and I'm stuck in limbo for a while... I have read this forum for probably 100s of hours as a guest. My goodness if they want people to be on the site before posting in other sections, block off the rest of the site from being public, I would have joined more than a year ago!

And the five posts, my goodness I'm not at the point I'm all technical about code, so what 5 garbage posts can I come up with? Other sites I join I have maybe 2 total posts for years of membership, since I can find things out by myself... However when a program keeps on having issues catching up on blocks, I think I can add debug info that would help. So 4 more garbage posts to come...

looks like youre out of jail now! enjoy!

it is a pretty dumb idea tho

I've been a member here for over three years, but haven't before had a reason to post anything (I'm more of a lurker than a poster) so I wasn't even aware I wasn't able to post outside newbie section until now. But now i need to send a PM so here I am making my first post. Guess I just have to wait my hours now (one would think more than 3 years without making a post would be enough to show one is not a spammer).

You've waited three years, just three hours to go...

I can certainly see why the rule is in place but hate missing out on a great a post, insightful information or the answer to a question I may have because the one person out there that could answer my question or that has something legit to say wasn't registered already and didn't feel like waiting four hours or making five posts before they could post.

The points about the right to lurk I think are the most important here. If there's no regular amount of posts required to keep your account active (which would prevent lurking), why should there be to get started?

I agree!  ;)

Just posting to post...

Thanks BitGroin. You reminded me of the importance of READING first, WRITING later.

Glad I could be of service.

Indeed, it's not nice to be a newbe.

I'd like to post a message in Ukyo fall topic but can't now.

Regards
 Cris

Same for me - I'm curious about trading of bonds, however I'm not able to do so... Ah well, looks like I just need to wait a bit more.

Regards

Yeah seems quite silly, you just end up with a forum full of useless spam posts like this one.

And this one.

First post so naturally i'm just going to write "several sentences" of complete junk cos that's what i've gotta do. Been a lurker here since a few weeks before i bought my first coins months ago.

Finally convinced the mrs that buying them was a good idea when they were about $85. She wasn't happy about it though. I tried to explain to her the complexities of bitcoins and how the whole world might be on board with them in a few years time but she hasn't really been convinced until the last few weeks. when they went to $200 she was practically begging me to sell them but i told her it was gonna get far bigger and i wasn't gonna sell.

You should see her now, she's scrabbling around for extra money to buy in after the next big crash, whenever that will be.

That's my first post out the way. So i keep seeing stuff about 5 posts? do i really have to spam 5 posts in here to be able to post elsewhere? pfffffffffffffft.

Didnt know about the 5 posts, probably browsed for 40h+ and now im also at 2 posts, almost there ;)

I was wondering why I couldn't post in other forums...guess I'll have to spam this one lol.

Yeah, its odd to make people post spam, but, whatever.

On a slightly usefull note, theres a whitelist thread that you can request you be allowed full access without the spamming / leaving yourself logged on for 4 hours. Admins are offline right now so probs pointless but at least you can increase your post count by 1!

The Mrs walked in from work the other night looking a bit upset. She asked if i could console her.

So I hit her over the head with my xbox.

bdum tsch.

*post number 2 complete*

Post no. 2.

My first useless post

4 hours is easy!

1. login
2. create a html file, put bitcointalk.org into iframe, auto refresh every minute with javascript.
3. go to bed
4. profit $$$

It’s just the rules, keep it.

Hello Ppl,

I'm trying to make a point by posting in this thread for the first time.  ;D
There are countless topics on the forum which I'd love to respond to, but since I have to make a substantial post in the newbie section first, I'm here.
Don't really know what else to stay, I love this community and its interesting discussions. Been lurking for about two years and finally decided to create an account.

Sooo... yeah, have a good one. And drop the attitude about newbs.  ;)

What sucks is that I see 100s of posts that I'd be replying to and be contributing to positively and now I have to basically go and restate things previously said in order to bypass the restriction.

Whether I've been active 5 minutes or 5 years.

Another useless post.

5 posts 4 hours and time limit to post makes it even worst

No not stupid  ;D

Well for most of the forum I can understand the restriction. But the Mining Support section I think would have a lot of newbies needing help starting.
I have overclocked 3 Blue Fury miners to 2.8 Ghs and would post my results to help others but I can't yet.

Is it spam when you send it to a subforum apparently dedicated to collecting spam?

Good idea!
Just paste the following into a text file, save with extension .html in the file name, load the file into a browser, continue with step 3. above.
(No need for Javascript.)

If they had let me make an account months ago instead of blocking off all new registration I could actually do something........

just keep working on it!

thumbs up :-)

was wondering why i could not post

For me it's ok.

I just ate the most disgusting pizza ever. I accidentally used whole grain flour for the batter. Don't do that, it ruins everything. no matter how fuking awesome your toppings are.

Hi everybody. 1st post  :)

He has a point about the spam though. I've already been on other bitcoin forums for a while, why shouldn't i be able to add something to a technical discussion or experiences with a hardware manufacturer?

My first useless post

About the complains about the newbee restrictions - I don't really see the problem.
Stay online for 4 hours and make some post some. Once you are over the restriction, it better for everyone, It will really keep spamers away. I "think" the tone on this forum is much more clean than other forums where any 14y kid can make profile and ruin things for others.

The Post & Time Limit are ok in my opinion. Another way would be that your new posts could be deleted by 'old' users if 2 or more mark them as useless/spam/whatever.

There is a Java Forum where  you have to answer some programming questions and stuff to even be able to register :) (have not seen a spambot there in years)

I shall enjoy my 4 hours on the "newbie" Board :)

Hi!
another newbie here, although I´ve been reading the forum for a long time, just not signed up (oops).
I don´t ahve much time or ideas to contribute yet, but I wanted to add some info on the weexchange scam topic.
Will do it... in four hours.

Well, english isn't my first language so.. here's my first post (probably there is something i written wrong  ;D)

I just got here and I still agree with it. The last thing you want is a bunch of hypersensitive trolls ruining a forum.

OK so a newbie but I'm more pragmatic about this.

Any community, on-line or otherwise, that's worth joining or participating in comes with it's own rules and own culture.  The analogy to joining a family is may be stretching it a bit but the point being that if you as the joiner see value in joining an existing community then that is generally because they have something you don't. Unless of course you are just joining to bestow yourself upon them  :)

I think those of us who join need to play by the rules of entry or else not bother to join, free choice.  There are plenty of other forums you see that end up with a high degree of pointless posts and spam, it just makes it more hassle for anyone trying to find the useful info and exchange it with others.

On the upside, thank you to the OP who provided a thread for us newbies to discuss this and increase our post count by +1  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/NZs97qG.jpg

Dancing baby bull MOOOO :D

Time for another newbie to increase his post count. : )


I generally agree with this, but if a forum, community or whatever wants to have new members it must also change to accommodate those members. Trite as the saying is, not everyone is the same, but they won't necessarily remove value by joining and effecting change.

Well , i'm probably the only one that thinks the limits should be 50 posts and 12 hours.

I would hope so...  ::)

As a newbie I think that it is a good idea to have some restrictions.

There are some forums out in internet land that are just mudslinging boards.

Bitcointalk is well organised and that is probably in part due to the sign up restrictions.

Plus you wouldn't want technical dinosaurs like me posting all over the place... ;D

I can see how this can be inconvenient but I guess at certain point in time it was a necessity to avoid spam threads.

Looking forward to step out of the newbie jail.

Forex-Metal Support

I find it a bit annoying as well.

I feel as though I am forced to make up whatever crap I can think of just so that I can make a post.

But thanks for the thread, you gave me a place to achieve my 1 post.

I hope this post counts as substantial enough..

Life isn't easy

so here i am waiting.
I have something important to say in one post, but i can not because of this limit.

Wow that guy made this thread when BTCs were like $20 a piece

Lucky ma fa ka

Like my situation. There are some pros and cons about these restrictions, but if you think about them a bit they aren't that worse and they have a reason. So we have to deal with it. 8)

It's not a stupid idea, but it is very annoying you have to wait. Especially when there's threads you want to contribute to.

Common, it's only four hours ,and  it's not like you have the solution to save the world from collapse which it's happening in 3.5 hours.

First post! Due to getting through my newbie initiation training ritual and so on. Like most of the rest of you here..

Welp, back to reading info for a bit. :)

I've been part of many forums...managing etc.  Anything to keep spam at a minimum!  Since I just found this Forum I'll go through the process happily :)

i have been using bitcoins for a few months now, and also been reading these forums. But never register an account here and now i have to make a long post like this just to PM people. i get why they have the rules in place because i have been an admin on my fair share of forums and can see how the forum post rules will definitely help to stop  >:(spamers >:(. but its still a pain in the behind for newer people to just jump in :P.

I've been using bitcoins for months as well, and browsing these forums for ages, but just never thought to start an account.  Now that I actually have something insightful to post, I cannot do it!  Sigh...hope this post qualifies me for release.

Happy bitcoining fellow newbies.

Joining this forum because this forum has a group of high intelligence posters that I would want to communicate with. As this is my intended purpose, the requirements would not really matter.

I believe Bitcoin will be an important chapter in our lives to come in the next few years, be it for good or for worse.

Silliest idea I've ever seen. I forum in which members can't post. Duh.
Now there's a stupid bug in which I can't reply to my own post, even though it I haven't posted anything for over 12 hours it says I posted less than 360 seconds ago!

Maybe in 4 hours those who know nothing will have time to learn about history being made and will post somenthing really useful.

Pretty annoying but kinda fair i get why its done, but kinda get lost on the forum. slow in newbs but hey ho

I co-sign this!

It just doesn't feel right, rather they should've limited what to do or don't do as a new member like exchanging big BTC amounts from the beginning of something, but the 5 posts thing is just non-comprehensible.

I said the new members and not the newbies, because it's not necessary that every new member is a newbie in the BTC world.

*Sigh*

Why is there an inconsistency between this thread, which says 5 posts and 4 hours... and This post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.0) which seems to indicate that you only need 1 post and 4 hours o_o

Post #4 I think.

Didn't know there was a 5 post requirement. Here is my 2nd post

A bit annoying - yes, but rules are rules and reasons are reasons!

HI everyone, not sure what the rationale is behind it but if it helps here is my first post on btct.

I really posted here because I felt frustrated and I didn't continue posting, rather I closed my browser out of frustration.

However, reading such posts of "as you wish, and here is my 1st post" cracks me up and almost fell off my chair. Epic!

 ;D

The only thing thats pissing me off is the Total time logged in complete bollocks i've been logged in nearly all day and it only says 3 hours 24 minutes  >:(

I have been using bitcoins for a few months now, and also been reading these forums. But never register an account here and now i have to make a long post like this just to PM people. I just want to post and pm thank you.

It's not a way of getting rid of spam... but it's a way of significantly reducing it, and it works.

And think about it... it's not THAT annoying, is it? I mean, really... what's 4 hours? It's half a working day, it's a short night's sleep, it's two films.

Stop whining about nothing - the rule does more good than bad.

Then you wake up and you find that you have to keep clicking for non-stop 4 hours, not just leaving your browser open for 4 hours, and you'll get back here cussing why is that happening. Huh!

As if people don't have a life! People have been lurking here for as long as the board was created and I couldn't remember for the life of me what username and what email I used to register on here a couple of years ago!

I posted in the mining threads and never logged in again, which is why I got even frustrated, and if there was a process to retrieve your account by stating your Country, and Date of Birth, that would be amazing.

Not a bad idea...I've just realized this rule 2:35 after browsing. Keeps me learning!

I have to agree. I made account today just to clarify something in altcoin thread and having to sit through all the crap going on here is killing me on inside.

By the way dont worry about trolls calling you noob. It´s rather cute when basement dwellers turn into snobs, cause "they are totally veteran here".

i still confusing  ???

this produced a few modest lols.
a small gg to you : )

It's stupid that the thread keeps getting bumped. Here's why.

You only need to make 1 post, and wait for 4 hours to be jr member.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.0

Why do people keep complaining about a nonexistent rule?

i think it should be like that to ignore people just trying to post everywhere their advertisements.

Seems like I've been here hours but so far I'm only at 1 hours and 51 minutes. Badtimes.

Well, newbie restrictions have their pros and cons... simply live with it like we all do...

I agree. I think one minute is enough. This restriction is very annoying. Long time lurker, decided to sign up today.

+1

I didn't notice the restriction at all. Posted a few things in Newbie, read a ton of topics in the other sections. Watched my miners slowly mine - watched a film... replied to a post that wasn't in the newbie section.

Somewhere in all of that the four hour restriction passed.

It is realy ......

it's to avoid having someone opening the tab and just refreshing now and then and getting into the site even with multiple accounts. anyway I think it has already been lowered and at 1 post only now which is quite easy to accomplice even without spamming.

not to bump this thread again, but as newbie who just got buried. This thread isn't even relevant anymore as the requirements have changed.

@MiningBuddy, @tysat, can we get this thread closed??

So, two scammers walk into a bar. One says "hey, give me all your money" and the other says

"but I already have all your money!"

The moral of the story you ask? I don't know.

But I agree with the 5 post and 4 hours rule... even if I have been lurking the forums on and off for like 2 years.

When have regulations changed? It's because you passed the 5 post limit that it's different for you now, it's still the same for newbies who just join.

Man I'm blown away by how much attention this thread got.  I remember wondering how many posts of whining and complaining would go on and boy I blown away by the size of this thread lol.

Imho there are a lot of silent users just browsing the forums without creating an account. I've got a dozen of community sites where I am doing so. I think there are better ways to prevent malicious and careless usage.

Though the restrictions are troubling when all you want to do is PM someone, I appreciate them.  I was able to find most of the answers to my questions in a matter of a few hours.  If this restriction was not in place, I believe we would have an issue with already answered questions being posted to the forum.  This restriction does enable spam into the "newbie" section, but eliminates it in the important sections of the forum.  Making users search for their answers is a very smart rule.

Yes. The regs have changed. See quote below.

Some good questions do get asked in the newbie forum so all members have basic knowledge before jumping into the other forums. That said, it clearly encourages spam posts which is a bit sad. No perfect answers in life..

The one hour rule isn't terribly onerous.  Neither is the 4 hour wait.  The 45s delay bugs and 360s wait time error (despite not having made a previous post) is a bit of a pain though.

Oh well, 4 hour wait here I come.

right here with you. Been browsing this forum for ages, now to get through the newbie period so I can start contributing.

I've been reading these forums for several weeks now, but not yet posted. I've learned heaps.

Groups Buys is a great section to get into hardware at reasonable cost (as opposed to eBay ;) ) I've picked myself up a Drillbit board :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266235.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=266235.0).

I've also been trading on CEX.io: buying and selling GHS is the way to make bitcoin there, not mining - as I also learned here.

So there's my first post, now to wait 4 hours. Not too difficult, huh?

P

Hours it is my goal today is to lift this newbie shit

In my opinion those newbie restriction are pushing lame posts. Ive read the forum for years now. Some days ago i registered an account to post something and now i see this newbie forum full of useless posts. It's spreading misinformation and probably is not helping anyone.

Welcome to the internet. Never truly believe anything you read from the internet. Remember that most people aren't qualified in that particular area and no very little about it. Although, I hear a lot of people complaining about the restrictions and I must reply with the same answer as always. There is a reasons for the restrictions. It prevents spammers, scammers and general clogging up of the forum.

I started today, while I was reading the forum already for a month. I had no clue, that I have to make several posts. Just googled. It is probably stated in the agreement when you register, no?

Yeah, it is. It's also in the Newbie readme: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.0

Sooo silly...I have been following the forum for momths and still cannot write.
So I'm writing now. Hope that's enough...

It should be... in four hours' time.

I guess it also has the benefit of keeping all the misinformation and "n00b" type questions in one spot.  I've been lurking here several weeks as well, and all in all, this board is pretty good, IMO.

My My, aren't you special!

Yes.
This stimulates spam.
It's too bad.
---
Sim.
Isso estimula spam.
É muito ruim.

I agree, the restriction seems silly, but stops people asking silly questions and some SPAM bots I guess.

Just such a shame that it takes a long time to get to be able to post.

I only signed up to participate in a GB, but instead I have to make silly posts like this :(

Signed up to contact a pool owner.
Can't contact him in any other way.
It's so annoying you have to wait for such a long time before I can actually send him a PM.
This stuff also promotes spam, as you must send a minimum of 5 messages, ugh.

If you want me to post your details in a thread just let me know, but you only have to wait 4 hours or so, so it's not a massive issue.

It is annoying and kind a spammy :-\ (this is number 1)

I agree =/ Also its confusing

had to search to find this thread to find out the newbie rules. it can be solved with a small warning message in profile section.

It tells you before you sign up. I guess like most people just skim past this info  :D.

Been reading over 4 hours so far, now I need make 5 posts and waiting another 4 hours? It's confusing...

You total logged in time at the top left would have to be 4 hours and you would need to make 5 posts. I was made a Jr. Member without reaching these, I have no idea why though...

As you do ;D ;D ;D

It's only one post.


As above it's only one post now, but are you sure you didn't have 4 hours?

i like that it limits newbs spam, but common forcing posts is not a good idea, just time limit is good enough.

i just want participate in catcoin talks not here :/

Yes. Unless the website is glitched it says:
Total time logged in: 45 minutes.

It sure as hell promotes spam in this section :D

Good thing that no-one reads it, though

You guys should band together and launch a rebellion!

That is bang on right

I must admit, I don't normally read them if it's masses of T&Cs, but it's only a brief few lines here.


That's weird. According to the forum ranks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0) You need 1 post written over 4 hours ago, to become a jr. Could/can you post in other sections?

I think this rule is ok, overall 5 posts is not so much :)

It's just one now and four hours wait.

There are alot of confusion on this matter (number 5 ;D)

Well, I need to contact the Middlecoin admin, but he only is contactable via this forum.

My problem is that I mistyped my btc address. I changed a "V" to "v" and a appertly the middlecoin website can't haddle this. Now all my shares go the the wrong address with the small v. Even if my miners provide the address with the V.

Kind regards
The newbie forum user

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177133.0)

Much better. Thank you.

Too bad it's on army in which soldiers only fight for four hours after which they change sides

The 4 hour army! The 5 post army!

Newbie jail:

https://i.imgur.com/sJ96eTU.jpg

i like that system. before we had some problems with scammers.

its must for the purpse of newbies training and avoid some scammers from this forum

For hours seems a bit long but not so bad as bitcoin forms seem to be huge targets for DDos and spam.