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Title: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
the title of this thread is self explanatory. feel free to post in this thread if he's fucked you over to.

I first met Tradefortress when i was still a wee newbie. i pm'd him because at the time he appeared to be a moderator of some type and i needed advice on who to use for escrow service, as i was negotiating my first trade and didn't want to be screwed. he was very shrewd in his reply, but advised me that John K was the best escrow available. I ended up not using the escrow, and the trade went through successfully (see my deal with just_me in the old GLD [ANN] thread.

Things headed south earlier this week when he hired a new mod on coinchat. Up to this point i thought we had become quasi-internet friends and i trusted him completely. This new mod he hired, randomcloud began muting me and banning me for no reason. so in retaliation, i revealed her whois information i got from her website. This was kind of mean, but she was goading me into it. She would mute me and her and her narcisstic little minions would laugh it up at my expense.I pm'd him on here, and he advised me to email him to discuss further. So i emailed tradefortress. below is a transcript of our conversation. Note how he completely ignores the actions of randomcloud and never acknowledges her transgressions.

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On Jun 13, 2013 11:46 AM, "PigOfDestiny" <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
what is the deal?
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On Jun 13, 2013 11:53 AM, admin@glados.cc wrote:
Hi,

The thing is that spamming someone's private information (even if you obtained it publicly) is not acceptable. This is only unique to coinchat, try posting that on reddit and you will get an instant ban.

What you should have done is contacted me.

Sent from my phone, apologies for typos

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:54:19 +1000
Subject: Re:
From: admin@glados.cc
To: stuckinabox@live.com

Sorry, I mean this is *not* unique to coinchat.

Sent from my phone, apologies for typos

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On Jun 13, 2013 11:58 AM, "Will Blackamoor" <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
i know what i did was wrong. but why is she allowed to publicly dog me and ban me for no reason. all i said was to basicaly grow a thicker skin. then i made my own channel and tried to invite other like minded individuals to join it so i could be free from her whining, but she just couldn't have that. only then did i come in and "spam her whois info". she deserved it if she is gonna act like that, calling me a retard and muting me for no reason. that is bullshit admin and you know it.
r3wt

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:30:51 +1000
Subject: RE:
From: admin@glados.cc
To: stuckinabox@live.com

I'll talk this over with other moderators of coinchat and bitcointalk.

Sent from my phone, apologies for typos

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On Jun 13, 2013 1:56 PM, "Will Blackamoor" <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
ok. everytime i go online she pops up and mutes me for 600000000 minutes with a rude message. she has all her little troll buddies in there taunting me to. you really gonna allow this? if you want me gone just say so.

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 14:36:22 +1000

Subject: RE:
From: admin@glados.cc
To: stuckinabox@live.com

Yes, as a result of your continued ban evasion you are permanently banned from CoinChat.

Please don't come back again unless you want me to attach this to your bitcointalk reputation.

Sent from my phone, apologies for typos

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On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
you fucking bitch!!!!

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:56:48 +1000
Subject: Re:
To: stuckinabox@live.com


FYI, your feedback does not count, my feedback actually shows to people.

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
haha, someone just called you a pinata. your chat is slowly circling the drain. i wasn't toxic to coinchat. if anyone is its random cloud and her big bleeding vagina. seriously you and her are ruining that place.

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 00:58:39 +1000

Subject: Re:
To: stuckinabox@live.com

You really want me to make a thread about you, don't you?

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
nah, i just don't understand why you are rick rolling me over some hurt feelings of randomcloud. i did nothing to her but oppose her censorship

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:36:50 +1000

Subject: Re:
To: stuckinabox@live.com

If a cop officer is rude to you, it's not a wise idea to complain or pick a fight. You contact the internal affairs department.

Likewise, when you had a problem with randomcloud, take it for the moment and contact me. Don't ban evade, don't sign me up for random services, and don't ban evade after I told you that I'm going to discuss it with other moderators. FYI, none of Bitcointalk.org them have a good opinion of you.

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
I really don't care if they do. I didn't join the bitcoin forum to be admired or liked. i did it to learn. you pissed me off. you gave me the scam tag on bitcoin talk and you refuse to even here my side of it. as far as im concerned you are an asshole and have betrayed my trust. but not that matters right? i'm just a nobody, atleast in this bitcoin world.

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:48:37 +1000

Subject: Re:
To: stuckinabox@live.com

What was hour convo 13 hrs ago if I wasn't hearing your side?

I will remove my trust feedback when you remove yours, obviously. If you do not wish to do that, that is fine.

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
yeah, i will remove the feedback and the coinchat reference in my signature. and you really never heard my side of it. you just took random's word for it more or less.

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 01:58:39 +1000

I can see chat logs.

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
and? you don't agree that randomcloud went to far? i attempted to let it go several times and she just kept insulting me. i'm just suppose to take that?

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:08:58 +1000

Subject: Re:
To: stuckinabox@live.com

You're supposed to contact me and not go as "randomslut" apparently. Please, if you have problems with a moderator, be respectful and talk to someone higher up in the ladder about it, rather than being a douche / annoying person.

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On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:
well it doesn't look like thats going to be a problem anymore does it since you BFL'd me.

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From: admin@glados.cc
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:11:57 +1000
Subject: Re:
To: stuckinabox@live.com

Because of your behavior, yeah.

I've removed the negative trust rating from you.

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On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Will Blackamoor <stuckinabox@live.com> wrote:

ok. anyway you can make it like a 30 day ban and let me come back on a trial basis after 30 days?

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Will Blackamoor 9:31 AM
To: gladoscc

you motherfucker, you are ruining my ability to trade on the forum. the extortion account was a joke, i never actually got any money from anyone, and further more i wasn't harrassing randomcloud from the get go. she was harrassing me. i posted her whois informatin, which is far from illegal because she wouldn't quit singling me out and harrassing me by banning me and muting me incessantly and with illconcieved intentions. i was nothing but supportive and nice to her and you. i came  back tonight and apologized and agreed to leave coinchat for ever? why couldn't you just leave it at that?



Today, i login to bitcointalk and find that he has left me a negative trust rating:

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SCAMMER. DO NOT TRADE WITH. Is the user extortion. Is repeatedly harassing one of the moderators on coinchat, and evaded bans more than 10 times.

If you have any information on r3wt, please contact me via PM or admin@glados.cc


I'm being bullied by someone who is abusing his position of trust to blackball people on bitcointalk. what can i do?


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: grue on June 15, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
the title of this thread is self explanatory. feel free to post in this thread if he's fucked you over to.
so you're "Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress"? Do you even know what that means, retard? Rick roll = send link of "never gonna give you up" to someone. At this point you pretty much lost all credibility.

I'm being bullied by someone who is abusing his position of trust to blackball people on bitcointalk. what can i do?
oh boo hoo. you want me to call your mommy as well?


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 03:44:11 PM
the title of this thread is self explanatory. feel free to post in this thread if he's fucked you over to.
so you're "Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress"? Do you even know what that means, retard? Rick roll = send link of "never gonna give you up" to someone. At this point you pretty much lost all credibility.

I'm being bullied by someone who is abusing his position of trust to blackball people on bitcointalk. what can i do?
oh boo hoo. you want me to call your mommy as well?

Are you kididng me? This is the best you've got grue? IRL, rick rolling is when  someone appears to be your friend and fucks you over in the end. same concept as the rick rolling meme from the internet.

*sarcasm on.*
No i do not want you to call my mommy. I want you to go take another amitryptaline and continue being a manic depressive internet troll.
*sarcasm off.*


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 03:48:59 PM
TradeFortress get's a lot of stick from other members. I have run into him before, he seems all right to me. Runs a fe successful websites and holds a lot of others Bitcoin. Maybe you two had a misunderstanding. But, it always seems it's the same people battling with him. He's trusted and a very well known member of the forum.
I'm not calling you are lying and not saying that he didn't do anything to piss you off. But, maybe the situation is a misunderstanding and a heat of the moment thing.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 03:52:05 PM
TradeFortress get's a lot of stick from other members. I have run into him before, he seems all right to me. Runs a fe successful websites and holds a lot of others Bitcoin. Maybe you two had a misunderstanding. But, it always seems it's the same people battling with him. He's trusted and a very well known member of the forum.
I'm not calling you are lying and not saying that he didn't do anything to piss you off. But, maybe the situation is a misunderstanding and a heat of the moment thing.

No, i'm not saying he's a bad person or a scammer or anything like that. Its just he's being a dick and going out of his way to try and fuck me over. And i'm not saying i didn't do anything wrong either. I did. i went back and apologized and then left. The thing is i couldn't let it sit how it was. i wanted to apologize to randomcloud for pissing her off and admin for causing him trouble.  I don't understand why he continues to be a dick to me after the fact, since i agreed to leave coinchat and never come back. i just wanted to apologize. I even told him i had no alterior motive for returning other than to apologize to randomcloud.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: grue on June 15, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Are you kididng me? This is the best you've got grue? IRL, rick rolling is when  someone appears to be your friend and fucks you over in the end. same concept as the rick rolling meme from the internet.
wait, you can rick roll people in real life? I wonder how you'd convince your friends to manually type in a youtube link. No wait, you just redefined "rick roll" to suit your own purpose, which is not how language works.

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Rickrolling is an Internet meme[1][2] involving the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up". The meme is a bait and switch; a person provides a hyperlink which is seemingly relevant to the topic at hand, but actually leads to Astley's video. The link can be masked or obfuscated in some manner so that the user cannot determine the true destination of the link without clicking. People led to the music video are said to have been rickrolled. Rickrolling has extended beyond web links to playing the video or song disruptively in other situations, including public places,[2] such as a live appearance of Astley himself in the 2008 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York.[1] The meme has helped to revive Astley's career.[3]
Yeah, I'm really puzzled how you could click hyperlinks in real life.

*sarcasm on.*
No i do not want you to call my mommy. I want you to go take another amitryptaline and continue being a manic depressive internet troll.
*sarcasm off.*
r3wt calls grue a troll
it's super effective!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Gordon Bleu on June 15, 2013, 03:57:50 PM
IRL RR neva heard of something like that ? ? ?

but i like the Ban Evasion Part and the Complaints about,
maybe some more Info about the Coinchat Admin ? is it a Girl ?
TMI to read everithing till understanding...



and also

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/27690687.jpg


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 03:58:44 PM
Are you kididng me? This is the best you've got grue? IRL, rick rolling is when  someone appears to be your friend and fucks you over in the end. same concept as the rick rolling meme from the internet.
wait, you can rick roll people in real life? I wonder how you'd convince your friends to manually type in a youtube link. No wait, you just redefined "rick roll" to suit your own purpose, which is not how language works.

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Rickrolling is an Internet meme[1][2] involving the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up". The meme is a bait and switch; a person provides a hyperlink which is seemingly relevant to the topic at hand, but actually leads to Astley's video. The link can be masked or obfuscated in some manner so that the user cannot determine the true destination of the link without clicking. People led to the music video are said to have been rickrolled. Rickrolling has extended beyond web links to playing the video or song disruptively in other situations, including public places,[2] such as a live appearance of Astley himself in the 2008 Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York.[1] The meme has helped to revive Astley's career.[3]
Yeah, I'm really puzzled how you could click hyperlinks in real life.

*sarcasm on.*
No i do not want you to call my mommy. I want you to go take another amitryptaline and continue being a manic depressive internet troll.
*sarcasm off.*
r3wt calls grue a troll
it's super effective!

its the same concept you ignorant dolt. quit acting like you don't understand the logic.

Rick Rolling Internet Meme= the redirection to the the Rick Astley video

Rick Rolling I R L= Taking advantage of somone else naivety, ie. fucking them over


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
I guess some people just don't get along, lmao. It sounds like this escalated quickly. I'm not sure if that is all the conversation, You or him must of said something really minor and it just escalated from there.

I've never heard of a Rick Roll IRL, but then again we are from different places and different places have different meanings for almost everything.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
I guess some people just don't get along, lmao. It sounds like this escalated quickly. I'm not sure if that is all the conversation, You or him must of said something really minor and it just escalated from there.

Really i don't know why he decided to ban me, and at the same time i don't know why randomcloud threw such a fit over what i said and did on coinchat anyway. The only thing i can think of that might have set her off is the title of the room i created (#NotaPussy). She has issues with sexism, as in she perceives sexism sometimes when it isn't there, or was unintended.

You gotta understand where i live, a pussy is anyone who is afraid to stand up to others, or who can't handle a mature conversation, criticism, or adult conversations without getting butthurt. So where i'm coming from, or from my perspective it was a misunderstanding on her part. She assumed i was being sexist when i was just trying to create my own room for like minded individuals such as myself without having to cater to those who can't handle and become infuriated by mature adult conversations.


I've never heard of a Rick Roll IRL, but then again we are from different places and different places have different meanings for almost everything.


well i'm from the US so if that aids you in anyway in understanding where i'm coming from. When slang is coined over here it works its way into everyday life pretty quickly.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 04:23:22 PM
I guess some people just don't get along, lmao. It sounds like this escalated quickly. I'm not sure if that is all the conversation, You or him must of said something really minor and it just escalated from there.

Really i don't know why he decided to ban me, and at the same time i don't know why randomcloud threw such a fit over what i said and did on coinchat anyway. The only thing i can think of that might have set her off is the title of the room i created (#NotaPussy). She has issues with sexism, as in she perceives sexism sometimes when it isn't there, or was unintended.

You gotta understand where i live, a pussy is anyone who is afraid to stand up to others, or who can't handle a mature conversation, criticism, or adult conversations without getting butthurt. So where i'm coming from, or from my perspective it was a misunderstanding on her part. She assumed i was being sexist when i was just trying to create my own room for like minded individuals such as myself without having to cater to those who can't handle and become infuriated by mature adult conversations.


I've never heard of a Rick Roll IRL, but then again we are from different places and different places have different meanings for almost everything.


well i'm from the US so if that aids you in anyway in understanding where i'm coming from. When slang is coined over here it works its way into everyday life pretty quickly.

Yeah, I think the term 'pussy' is widely used to imply someone is a coward.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 04:29:51 PM
I guess some people just don't get along, lmao. It sounds like this escalated quickly. I'm not sure if that is all the conversation, You or him must of said something really minor and it just escalated from there.

Really i don't know why he decided to ban me, and at the same time i don't know why randomcloud threw such a fit over what i said and did on coinchat anyway. The only thing i can think of that might have set her off is the title of the room i created (#NotaPussy). She has issues with sexism, as in she perceives sexism sometimes when it isn't there, or was unintended.

You gotta understand where i live, a pussy is anyone who is afraid to stand up to others, or who can't handle a mature conversation, criticism, or adult conversations without getting butthurt. So where i'm coming from, or from my perspective it was a misunderstanding on her part. She assumed i was being sexist when i was just trying to create my own room for like minded individuals such as myself without having to cater to those who can't handle and become infuriated by mature adult conversations.


I've never heard of a Rick Roll IRL, but then again we are from different places and different places have different meanings for almost everything.


well i'm from the US so if that aids you in anyway in understanding where i'm coming from. When slang is coined over here it works its way into everyday life pretty quickly.

Yeah, I think the term 'pussy' is widely used to imply someone is a coward.


Well yes, thats the point i'm trying to make. I wasn't being sexist, or calling her a pussy. i think it was just a big misunderstanding honestly and i tried to argue my side but TF wouldn't here it. He just tossed me out on the word of a person who'd been a mod less than 2 days.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 04:32:58 PM
I guess some people just don't get along, lmao. It sounds like this escalated quickly. I'm not sure if that is all the conversation, You or him must of said something really minor and it just escalated from there.

Really i don't know why he decided to ban me, and at the same time i don't know why randomcloud threw such a fit over what i said and did on coinchat anyway. The only thing i can think of that might have set her off is the title of the room i created (#NotaPussy). She has issues with sexism, as in she perceives sexism sometimes when it isn't there, or was unintended.

You gotta understand where i live, a pussy is anyone who is afraid to stand up to others, or who can't handle a mature conversation, criticism, or adult conversations without getting butthurt. So where i'm coming from, or from my perspective it was a misunderstanding on her part. She assumed i was being sexist when i was just trying to create my own room for like minded individuals such as myself without having to cater to those who can't handle and become infuriated by mature adult conversations.


I've never heard of a Rick Roll IRL, but then again we are from different places and different places have different meanings for almost everything.


well i'm from the US so if that aids you in anyway in understanding where i'm coming from. When slang is coined over here it works its way into everyday life pretty quickly.

Yeah, I think the term 'pussy' is widely used to imply someone is a coward.


Well yes, thats the point i'm trying to make. I wasn't being sexist, or calling her a pussy. i think it was just a big misunderstanding honestly and i tried to argue my side but TF wouldn't here it. He just tossed me out on the word of a person who'd been a mod less than 2 days.

Maybe you should try to explain why, without all the arguing. It looks like the damage has been done though.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: wachtwoord on June 15, 2013, 04:41:17 PM
You posted this topic asking for opinions. Mine is impartial as I have no business with either you or TF.

TF is right to ask you to leave, it's his site his rules. Apart from this, I would have asked you to leave as well for the way you behaved. (I would have investigated the behaviour of my mod/admin as well as it seems out of line though).


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 04:43:16 PM
I guess some people just don't get along, lmao. It sounds like this escalated quickly. I'm not sure if that is all the conversation, You or him must of said something really minor and it just escalated from there.

Really i don't know why he decided to ban me, and at the same time i don't know why randomcloud threw such a fit over what i said and did on coinchat anyway. The only thing i can think of that might have set her off is the title of the room i created (#NotaPussy). She has issues with sexism, as in she perceives sexism sometimes when it isn't there, or was unintended.

You gotta understand where i live, a pussy is anyone who is afraid to stand up to others, or who can't handle a mature conversation, criticism, or adult conversations without getting butthurt. So where i'm coming from, or from my perspective it was a misunderstanding on her part. She assumed i was being sexist when i was just trying to create my own room for like minded individuals such as myself without having to cater to those who can't handle and become infuriated by mature adult conversations.


I've never heard of a Rick Roll IRL, but then again we are from different places and different places have different meanings for almost everything.


well i'm from the US so if that aids you in anyway in understanding where i'm coming from. When slang is coined over here it works its way into everyday life pretty quickly.

Yeah, I think the term 'pussy' is widely used to imply someone is a coward.


Well yes, thats the point i'm trying to make. I wasn't being sexist, or calling her a pussy. i think it was just a big misunderstanding honestly and i tried to argue my side but TF wouldn't here it. He just tossed me out on the word of a person who'd been a mod less than 2 days.

Maybe you should try to explain why, without all the arguing. It looks like the damage has been done though.

Yeah, i think you are right. I just feel like he's out to get me or just writing me off as an asshole without giving me the chance to redeem myself. Obviously he's never gonna let me back on coinchat. I'm willing to forget that, i just want him to stop demonizing me and trying to destroy my reputation before i have the chance to prove that i'm not a scammer and am trustworthy. Not that i'm gonna ask for a loan or doing any trading on here, thats what exchanges and escrows are for, but i don't like looking over and seeing trust rating -5 under my name when i'm on the forums. That means everytime someone sees my posts theyre gonna say "theres a scammer fuck that guy" and either ignore me or troll the hell out of me, which is exactly what TradeFortress wants. He puts "DO NOT TRADE WITH. IS A SCAMMER" on his trust feedback, when i've never had a single bad trade. all four trade's i've done were successful, just look at my post history. i made four trades with just_me during the GLD craze. I will admit i crossed the line with my postings as extortion, but i thought it would be hilarious and some people actually got the joke. I'm not a bad guy and i can see how my actions got me here, but that doesn't make me a scammer. I never took one cent from anyone other than greyhawk who sent me .022 in total in my other joke scam thread, and you can ask him i sent it back to him.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 04:44:32 PM
You posted this topic asking for opinions. Mine is impartial as I have no business with either you or TF.

TF is right to ask you to leave, it's his site his rules. Apart from this, I would have asked you to leave as well for the way you behaved. (I would have investigated the behaviour of my mod/admin as well as it seems out of line though).

Ok, i can live with that. Thats basically what made me mad. He punished me and turned a blind eye to the actions of randomcloud.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: wachtwoord on June 15, 2013, 04:45:37 PM
That means everytime someone sees my posts theyre gonna say "theres a scammer fuck that guy" and either ignore me or troll the hell out of me, which is exactly what TradeFortress wants. He puts "DO NOT TRADE WITH. IS A SCAMMER" on his trust feedback, when i've never had a single bad trade. all four trade's i've done were successful, just look at my post history. i

I haven't checked your history, but if you're not a scammer I would appreciate it if TF would remove this from your trust feedback as this undermines the usefulness of the trust system.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: zvs on June 15, 2013, 04:49:12 PM
i think it's odd that only one person in this thread has heard the term 'rick rolled' used in a real life situation



Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
That means everytime someone sees my posts theyre gonna say "theres a scammer fuck that guy" and either ignore me or troll the hell out of me, which is exactly what TradeFortress wants. He puts "DO NOT TRADE WITH. IS A SCAMMER" on his trust feedback, when i've never had a single bad trade. all four trade's i've done were successful, just look at my post history. i

I haven't checked your history, but if you're not a scammer I would appreciate it if TF would remove this from your trust feedback as this undermines the usefulness of the trust system.

to be fair, go back and read my post. I admitted to him as being behind the posting of the user "extortion". this was intended as a joke. some people got it and applauded my genius. others didnt(why would you have a problem with someone extorting scammers unless you were a scammer yourself???) some people actually pm'd me offering to help me track scammers. some people asked if i would hire them to work for me. i pm'd one person upon request and fucked with them. i was surprised when he offered to pay and asked for my address. that was as far as i could go with it. theres a line between joking and scamming, and that line is actually recieveng any money. just so you know the full story. Its not like him claiming i'm extortion is unwarranted. he just misunderstood me when i told him that. i don't think he understands sarcasm or has the capacity to appreciate a good ruse, but hey some people are just on different wave lengths.  

You know what, let me be blunt here i wish i could just go back on my whole experience so far with bitcoin and declare a mulligan. apart from this issue with tradefortress i'm also being extorted by a member of this forum who got my whois information from one of my domains and is threatening to send drugs to my house if i don't pay .4 BTC.... maybe i was just venting a little bit on coinchat. i'm really sorry TradeFortress. shit. i don't know what else to say to prove my story.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: MPOE-PR on June 15, 2013, 05:09:08 PM
Up to this point i thought we had become quasi-internet friends and i trusted him completely.

I stopped reading at this point on the assumption he got you pregnant. I don't dig fambly soaps.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: WuLabsWuTecH on June 15, 2013, 05:15:38 PM
I just spat out my water from laughing at the rickrolled IRL thing!

I'm imagining someone opening a letter and a hologram of the video showing up in front of their faces!!!

fwiw, i'm from the US and I've never heard of this term.

But to the OP.  It's his site, he can ban anyone for any reason.  Hell, he's well within his rights for muting you for wearing blue jeans if he doesn't like people who wear blue jeans!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: darkmule on June 15, 2013, 05:24:10 PM
ITT:  angry, clueless newb is angry and clueless.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
Yeah, he does have the 'power' to mute and anyone. It's his site. But, that doesn't mean it's right. I'm not sticking up for the OP. I'm just saying that if you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

This is how websites have failed, they get a bad reputation for being rude and unprofessional, therefore people are not interested in immature operators. But, I personally think TF has done what most people would have done. He should now question the mod and look into the history. If he could post some type of log to try and resolve this issue that would be great. I know he might not want to do that, but if he could it would be good.

He's most likely looking into the situation. If he feels he has treated you bad, then he will apologise, but if he doesn't then that is fine.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: tinus42 on June 15, 2013, 05:40:08 PM
Trade Fortress has responded to this thread on his official YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Gordon Bleu on June 15, 2013, 05:42:50 PM
ITT:  angry, clueless newb is angry and clueless.



extorting BTC from People with threatening them to send some Drugs to their Address,
can evade bans,
but complains about beeing bullied,
i guess OP isn't that helpless








Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 05:48:07 PM
Trade Fortress has responded to this thread on his official YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ


How in the world did I fall for that....Kudos for you sir!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: darkmule on June 15, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
Yeah, he does have the 'power' to mute and anyone. It's his site. But, that doesn't mean it's right. I'm not sticking up for the OP. I'm just saying that if you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

If he was acting there like he's acting here (belligerent and stupid), he'd be banned pretty much anywhere.  Sticking around whining and ban-evading after that is just begging to be used as a chew toy.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
Yeah, he does have the 'power' to mute and anyone. It's his site. But, that doesn't mean it's right. I'm not sticking up for the OP. I'm just saying that if you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

If he was acting there like he's acting here (belligerent and stupid), he'd be banned pretty much anywhere.  Sticking around whining and ban-evading after that is just begging to be used as a chew toy.

That's true. Anyone who ban evades without contacting the owner and having permission, is a virtual slap around the head. This seems like a matter which could of easily been resolved if handled in a more reasonable approach. Like I said earlier, it seems it's gone a few steps to far.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
ITT:  angry, clueless newb is angry and clueless.



extorting BTC from People with threatening them to send some Drugs to their Address,
can evade bans,
but complains about beeing bullied,
i guess OP isn't that helpless








You're parroting false information with that little quip. i never did no such thing. you are getting me confused with basic asics. My quote unqoute scheme was extorting scammers, and offering a fake rep service. it was a joke. and it was genius whether you wanna admit it or not you may now kiss my ass.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 06:21:45 PM
Yeah, he does have the 'power' to mute and anyone. It's his site. But, that doesn't mean it's right. I'm not sticking up for the OP. I'm just saying that if you can do it, doesn't mean you should.

If he was acting there like he's acting here (belligerent and stupid), he'd be banned pretty much anywhere.  Sticking around whining and ban-evading after that is just begging to be used as a chew toy.

That's true. Anyone who ban evades without contacting the owner and having permission, is a virtual slap around the head. This seems like a matter which could of easily been resolved if handled in a more reasonable approach. Like I said earlier, it seems it's gone a few steps to far.

she was clearly abusing her power though. muting me for simply disagreeing with her opinion. she even called me a retard. it seems that you and several others who have responded in this thread are nothing more than trolls who are friends with TF.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 06:25:56 PM
I just spat out my water from laughing at the rickrolled IRL thing!

I'm imagining someone opening a letter and a hologram of the video showing up in front of their faces!!!

fwiw, i'm from the US and I've never heard of this term.

But to the OP.  It's his site, he can ban anyone for any reason.  Hell, he's well within his rights for muting you for wearing blue jeans if he doesn't like people who wear blue jeans!

i think you have a problem with reading comprehension, otherwise you didn't read the my whole post, or even better you purposely ignored the main premise of the thread. Trade Fortress is abusing the trust system by labeling me a scammer because of what happened on coinchat, read the emails its in the transcript.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on June 15, 2013, 06:28:20 PM
Laffo, so you ran the "extortion" account, but get up in arms when people retaliate?

Protip: Don't go a-trolling, if you can't handle the feedback.

Luckily for you, I run a highly successful educational effort in how to successfully troll people. I call it the Charles Hoskinson School of Communications.

For the low low and time-limited price of only 100 BTC this six-week course will teach you how to apply Schopenhauers rhetoric to disrupt any fruitful discussion and to discredit your opponents.

Take advantage of this incredible offer now. Tomorrow the price may have already risen to the level of Supernode Marquis rank.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on June 15, 2013, 06:35:50 PM
Sticking around whining and ban-evading after that is just begging to be used as a chew toy.

This. Hell, I've been forced to permaban IRL friends from forums I moderate when they repeatedly ban-evaded after being banned for being assholes and them going "I know greyhawk IRL. I can't be banned." Now THAT isn't funny.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 06:40:05 PM
Sticking around whining and ban-evading after that is just begging to be used as a chew toy.

This. Hell, I've been forced to permaban IRL friends from forums I moderate when they repeatedly ban-evaded after being banned for being assholes and them going "I know greyhawk IRL. I can't be banned." Now THAT isn't funny.

I have had big arguments with friends (some past friends now) because of the same reason.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 06:44:08 PM
Laffo, so you ran the "extortion" account, but get up in arms when people retaliate?

Protip: Don't go a-trolling, if you can't handle the feedback.

Luckily for you, I run a highly successful educational effort in how to successfully troll people. I call it the Charles Hoskinson School of Communications.

For the low low and time-limited price of only 100 BTC this six-week course will teach you how to apply Schopenhauers rhetoric to disrupt any fruitful discussion and to discredit your opponents.

Take advantage of this incredible offer now. Tomorrow the price may have already risen to the level of Supernode Marquis rank.
1. no noone retaliated. the extortion issue was only mentioned as an attempt at transparency. the main issue here is what happened on coinchat and how it carried over to this forum.

2.Oh dude, i'm totally in ! sign me up!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on June 15, 2013, 06:48:51 PM

2.Oh dude, i'm totally in ! sign me up!

Excellent. Please send the tuition to the adress below. We will then send out the first week of learning material.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 06:50:07 PM

2.Oh dude, i'm totally in ! sign me up!

Excellent. Please send the tuition to the adress below. We will then send out the first week of learning material.

100 BTC sent! woohoo so stoked!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on June 15, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Someone scammer tag me. I just stole a 100 BTC.

KA-CHING!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 15, 2013, 06:52:01 PM
Someone scammer tag me. I just stole a 100 BTC.

KA-CHING!

oh know he scammed me!! he scammed me!! the horror!!! the horror!!


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 15, 2013, 06:53:10 PM

2.Oh dude, i'm totally in ! sign me up!

Excellent. Please send the tuition to the adress below. We will then send out the first week of learning material.

100 BTC sent! woohoo so stoked!

He forgot of the daily charges which is 5BTC, I know because I'm signed up for it too.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Burdy on June 15, 2013, 07:22:12 PM
My only response to this thread is
















L O fucking L


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: charleshoskinson on June 15, 2013, 09:12:54 PM
Quote
Laffo, so you ran the "extortion" account, but get up in arms when people retaliate?

Protip: Don't go a-trolling, if you can't handle the feedback.

Luckily for you, I run a highly successful educational effort in how to successfully troll people. I call it the Charles Hoskinson School of Communications.

For the low low and time-limited price of only 100 BTC this six-week course will teach you how to apply Schopenhauers rhetoric to disrupt any fruitful discussion and to discredit your opponents.

Take advantage of this incredible offer now. Tomorrow the price may have already risen to the level of Supernode Marquis rank.

Lol, greyhawk. Thanks for the mention


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on June 15, 2013, 10:00:18 PM
Quote
Laffo, so you ran the "extortion" account, but get up in arms when people retaliate?

Protip: Don't go a-trolling, if you can't handle the feedback.

Luckily for you, I run a highly successful educational effort in how to successfully troll people. I call it the Charles Hoskinson School of Communications.

For the low low and time-limited price of only 100 BTC this six-week course will teach you how to apply Schopenhauers rhetoric to disrupt any fruitful discussion and to discredit your opponents.

Take advantage of this incredible offer now. Tomorrow the price may have already risen to the level of Supernode Marquis rank.

Lol, greyhawk. Thanks for the mention

Good job googling yourself and validating my point.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: charleshoskinson on June 15, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
Quote
Good job googling yourself and validating my point.

I get an automated report everyday on a list of keywords to monitor posts about BEP and other such things. If you ever choose to start a business involving a social media strategy, then you'll see the wisdom in that approach.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on June 15, 2013, 10:17:36 PM
Quote
Good job googling yourself and validating my point.

I get an automated report everyday on a list of keywords to monitor posts about BEP and other such things. If you ever choose to start a business involving a social media strategy, then you'll see the wisdom in that approach.

So what you're saying is you're google alerting yourself. Good job validating my point.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: charleshoskinson on June 15, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
Quote
So what you're saying is you're google alerting yourself. Good job validating my point.

Honestly, what the hell is your point? Everything I have started has gotten a lot of community involvement and I have done for free. You seem to have this enormous chip on your shoulders about BEP and me personally.

I am sorry if I somehow offended you Greyhawk, but seriously what is bad about me monitoring keywords like Charles Hoskinson and Bitcoin Education Project. We just sent out a press release to over 4,000 news orgs on our project and I want to see what's published and when.

Yet reason seems to honestly escape you. You've been attacking me in off-topic threads. Any place I comment you seems to look for an excuse to somehow discredit my character or purpose. The only person here with an agenda is you Greyhawk.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 12:59:32 AM
Quote
i think you have a problem with reading comprehension, otherwise you didn't read the my whole post, or even better you purposely ignored the main premise of the thread. Trade Fortress is abusing the trust system by labeling me a scammer because of what happened on coinchat, read the emails its in the transcript.

You are permanently banned from coinchat.

You came back to coinchat.

/end


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Gordon Bleu on June 16, 2013, 01:02:02 AM
Quote
i think you have a problem with reading comprehension, otherwise you didn't read the my whole post, or even better you purposely ignored the main premise of the thread. Trade Fortress is abusing the trust system by labeling me a scammer because of what happened on coinchat, read the emails its in the transcript.

You are permanently banned from coinchat.

You came back to coinchat.

/end


Aaaaaww Shit this is real !! i thought OP was Trolling   so much MFW


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 01:03:13 AM
Oh, and you were harassing randomcloud by asking about personal sleeping problems.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: Welsh on June 16, 2013, 01:47:20 AM
The tension of this thread as gone from                     to                                    This high =>     -



                                                This low->       _


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 02:26:34 AM
r3wt: stop ban evading on coinchat for reals and I might remove my trust rating.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 02:28:42 AM
r3wt: stop ban evading on coinchat for reals and I might remove my trust rating.

have i been back since last night dude? i clearly came back to apologize. you would have never known it was me if i wouldn't have told you so. i made it right with random cloud, tipped her all the mBTC i earned chatting respectfully and civily with her and the others in the chat, told you what was up and left immediately upon seeing that you had nothing more to say to me. I thought i made it pretty clear that i wasn't going to come back.

further more is it so hard for you to open notepad or gedit and drop this little line into ht access.
Code:
ModRewrite On

order allow,deny

allow all, deny <my ip address>


 i know you are a competent dev and all i would never disrespect you on that front, but if you have one of those wierd hosts that disallows htaccess you could do it in php:

Code:
<?

$denied_ips = array(
'85.11.153.119',
'66.31.144.181',
'114.79.55.45',
'108.209.252.114',
);
 
function getUserIP()
{
    if (!empty($_SERVER['HTTP_CLIENT_IP']))
    {
      $ip=$_SERVER['HTTP_CLIENT_IP'];
    }
    elseif (!empty($_SERVER['HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR']))
    {
      $ip=$_SERVER['HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR'];
    }
    else
    {
      $ip=$_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
    }
    return $ip;

    }

?>


note: you could make it much more complete than this humble version of mine. I just offer this as an example. If you truly wanted me gone it seems you would have already done this


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 16, 2013, 02:32:41 AM
Thank you all so much for this thread. I haven't laughed this hard since PinkiePie left.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 04:14:04 AM
Ah, thanks for letting me know that I shouldn't remove my negative feedback on you.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 04:22:24 AM
Ah, thanks for letting me know that I shouldn't remove my negative feedback on you.

and exactly why is that? your feedback is dishonest. i didn't scam anyone and i certainly didn't harrass randomcloud. you are being reported to the ATO come monday.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 04:27:55 AM
Go ahead :)


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 04:30:15 AM
Go ahead :)

why won't u just remove the negative feedback. what the fuck did i ever do to you?


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 16, 2013, 04:33:33 AM
Go ahead :)

why won't u just remove the negative feedback. what the fuck did i ever do to you?

Please stop this! I can't laugh this hard any longer I'm starting to cough.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 04:35:23 AM
Go ahead :)

why won't u just remove the negative feedback. what the fuck did i ever do to you?

Please stop this! I can't laugh this hard any longer I'm starting to cough.

i'm glad you think its funny.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 04:41:30 AM
You just ban evaded again, lol.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 04:42:24 AM
You just ban evaded again, lol.

i will continue until you remove the feedback and leave me the fuck alone


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 04:45:02 AM
r3wt: stop ban evading on coinchat for reals and I might remove my trust rating.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 04:58:28 AM
r3wt: stop ban evading on coinchat for reals and I might remove my trust rating.

i already said i would stop coming to coinchat.org if you would remove the trust rating. you're the one dragging it out. and i won't sign you up for anymore porn maillists. deal?


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 16, 2013, 05:09:58 AM
r3wt: stop ban evading on coinchat for reals and I might remove my trust rating.

i already said i would stop coming to coinchat.org if you would remove the trust rating. you're the one dragging it out. and i won't sign you up for anymore porn maillists. deal?

ROFL http://us.cdn3.123rf.com/168nwm/bowie15/bowie151305/bowie15130500003/19501797-man-hanging-up-himself-with-happiness.jpg


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:12:00 AM
Just banned one of your other alts. Go away.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:22:36 AM
Just banned one of your other alts. Go away.

i told you i would when you removed the false neg rep or atleast amend it to take out the bullshit parts. sure i made posts as extortion, trying to scam scammers.  you coulda just left it at that TF. The "DO NOT TRADE WITH" was uncalled for. you through that in there to fuck with my head. stop being a child please and we can all move on. and whether you admit it or not you know for a fact i never harassed randomcloud. it was the otherway around.



Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:23:18 AM
Quote
stop being a child please and we can all move on

ironic.

I have just filed an abuse report with Suddenlink. I hope you read the AUP you agreed to:

Quote
SUDDENLINK RESERVES THE RIGHT TO IMMEDIATELY TERMINATE YOUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT NOTICE AT SUDDENLINK'S SOLE DISCRETION IF YOU OR OTHERS WHO USE YOUR ACCOUNT VIOLATE THIS ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY. SUDDENLINK ALSO RESERVES THE RIGHT TO IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY MATERIAL OR INFORMATION FROM SUDDENLINK'S WEB SITES THAT VIOLATE THIS POLICY FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER FROM AT OUR SOLE DISCRETION AND WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE.

 You agree that you will not use, nor allow others to use, the Internet Service to transmit any material that threatens or encourages bodily harm or destruction of property or which harasses, abuses, defames or invades the privacy or rights of any other person or entity.

 You agree that you will not, nor allow others to, impersonate another user, falsify one's user name, age, digital or manual signature or identity in e-mail or in any post or transmission to any newsgroup or mailing list or other similar groups or lists. You agree that you will not, nor allow others to, forge any message header of any electronic transmission, originating or passing through the Internet Service, or use an IP address not assigned to you.

10. NO "HACKING"

You agree that you will not use, nor allow others to use, the Internet Service to access the accounts of others or to attempt to penetrate security measures of the Internet Service or access any other person's computer or computer system, software, data, confidential or proprietary information of others without the owner's knowledge and consent ("hacking") or to cause a disruption of service to other on-line users. You agree that you will not use, nor allow others to use, tools designed for compromising network security, such as password guessing programs, cracking tools, packet sniffers or network probing tools.

If I do not get a response, I will write them snail mail. You are also violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:30:38 AM
Quote
stop being a child please and we can all move on

ironic.

I have just filed an abuse report with Suddenlink. I hope you read the AUP you agreed to:

Quote
SUDDENLINK RESERVES THE RIGHT TO IMMEDIATELY TERMINATE YOUR ACCOUNT WITHOUT NOTICE AT SUDDENLINK'S SOLE DISCRETION IF YOU OR OTHERS WHO USE YOUR ACCOUNT VIOLATE THIS ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY. SUDDENLINK ALSO RESERVES THE RIGHT TO IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY MATERIAL OR INFORMATION FROM SUDDENLINK'S WEB SITES THAT VIOLATE THIS POLICY FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER FROM AT OUR SOLE DISCRETION AND WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE.

 You agree that you will not use, nor allow others to use, the Internet Service to transmit any material that threatens or encourages bodily harm or destruction of property or which harasses, abuses, defames or invades the privacy or rights of any other person or entity.

 You agree that you will not, nor allow others to, impersonate another user, falsify one's user name, age, digital or manual signature or identity in e-mail or in any post or transmission to any newsgroup or mailing list or other similar groups or lists. You agree that you will not, nor allow others to, forge any message header of any electronic transmission, originating or passing through the Internet Service, or use an IP address not assigned to you.



it doesn't define ban evading as harassment. i'm sure my isp will laugh their ass off. in fact, if anyone was in violations of that policy(which is likely identical to your isp by the way) its you since you are parroting false information and continue to harrass me and threaten me in emails which i've already provided in the other thread. i returned to coinchat to apologize. i ithink they will side with me once i present them the proof of my side of the story.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:34:21 AM
Ban evading sits under "hacking" (note how it's put in quotes by them), and is also a crime under CFAA.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:35:01 AM
Ban evading sits under "hacking" (note how it's put in quotes by them), and is also a crime under CFAA.

no its not. you are lying your ass off once again. its only a violation of site TOS, which you don't have posted, and is therefor null and valid in the united states of america. further more, that law only covers ip bans. the most you could do at this point is accuse me of harrassment, but then i'm just gonna present all the evidence and press harassment charges on you.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:38:19 AM
CFAA (a) (2):

intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains—

    (A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602 (n) [1] of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.);
    (B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or
    (C) information from any protected computer;

CoinChat's servers are located in the United States. Coinchat is used for communication. It is a protected computer.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:39:42 AM
CFAA (a) (2):

intentionally accesses a computer without authorization or exceeds authorized access, and thereby obtains—

    (A) information contained in a financial record of a financial institution, or of a card issuer as defined in section 1602 (n) [1] of title 15, or contained in a file of a consumer reporting agency on a consumer, as such terms are defined in the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681 et seq.);
    (B) information from any department or agency of the United States; or
    (C) information from any protected computer;

CoinChat's servers are located in the United States. Coinchat is used for communication. It is a protected computer.

it is a freely accessible website though. you never ip banned me, so i didnt "hack" anything. you're really grasping at straws here man.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:41:20 AM
See United States v. Andrew Auernheimer (Weev).

http://cfaadefensefund.com/

Quote
courts have held that unauthorized access to a computer occurs whenever the computer owner says so, and the Department of Justice has enforced this point of view. Someone can violate the law even where there is no notice and where no password was hacked. All that is required is that a person, corporate or natural, subsequently says you don’t belong.

That's the legal precedent that has been set.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:46:44 AM
See United States v. Andrew Auernheimer (Weev).

http://cfaadefensefund.com/

Quote
courts have held that unauthorized access to a computer occurs whenever the computer owner says so, and the Department of Justice has enforced this point of view. Someone can violate the law even where there is no notice and where no password was hacked. All that is required is that a person, corporate or natural, subsequently says you don’t belong.

That's the legal precedent that has been set.

apples and oranges.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:50:21 AM
OK, if you think Coinchat isn't used for communications.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:53:20 AM
OK, if you think Coinchat isn't used for communications.

look, there not gonna send me to prison for evading your ban that wasn't even enforced at the ip level. this is small fish. i read up about it and as long as i leave you alone from the point of you threatening legal action nothing will likely arise from it.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on June 16, 2013, 05:54:10 AM
That's right, now leave me alone instead of saying "this won't be the last of me".


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 05:57:21 AM
That's right, now leave me alone instead of saying "this won't be the last of me".
i already said i would leave you alone if you would remove the negative rep. i'm not a scammer. if i was i would have long since just created another account.

Also you might find this to be of particular value:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Lori_Drew


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: tinus42 on June 16, 2013, 07:07:40 PM
See United States v. Andrew Auernheimer (Weev).

http://cfaadefensefund.com/

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courts have held that unauthorized access to a computer occurs whenever the computer owner says so, and the Department of Justice has enforced this point of view. Someone can violate the law even where there is no notice and where no password was hacked. All that is required is that a person, corporate or natural, subsequently says you don’t belong.

That's the legal precedent that has been set.

You object to Prism but would use this scummy botched legal precedent against one of your net-enemies?  ??? ::)


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: grue on June 16, 2013, 07:34:42 PM
You object to Prism but would use this scummy botched legal precedent against one of your net-enemies?  ??? ::)
red herring
ad hominem tu quoque

try harder

its the same concept you ignorant dolt. quit acting like you don't understand the logic.

Rick Rolling Internet Meme= the redirection to the the Rick Astley video

Rick Rolling I R L= Taking advantage of somone else naivety, ie. fucking them over
You do realize that this is the reason no one takes you seriously, right? If tell anyone of the internet you got "rickrolled", they'll think you got sent a link to watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0. It's a huge stretch to think that sending a link => "fucking them over". At best, you can say it's a link to meatspin or similar sites.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: r3wt on June 16, 2013, 07:37:07 PM
You object to Prism but would use this scummy botched legal precedent against one of your net-enemies?  ??? ::)
red herring
ad hominem tu quoque

try harder

you get dumber with every post. its quite sad really


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: MoneypakTrader.com on June 29, 2013, 08:12:38 PM
TradeFortress is a real scumbag scammer, he got me for 27 bitcoins:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.0;all


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: grue on June 29, 2013, 08:16:21 PM
You object to Prism but would use this scummy botched legal precedent against one of your net-enemies?  ??? ::)
red herring
ad hominem tu quoque

try harder

you get dumber with every post. its quite sad really
you are here:
https://i.minus.com/iofRrC3emtLyB.png

"u so dumb xDD"


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: AliceWonder on June 29, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
its the same concept you ignorant dolt. quit acting like you don't understand the logic.

Rick Rolling Internet Meme= the redirection to the the Rick Astley video

Rick Rolling I R L= Taking advantage of somone else naivety, ie. fucking them over

No. Rick Rolling is a very specific type of bait and switch, namely, the Rick Astley video.
Other types of bait and switch are not a rick roll.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: MoneypakTrader.com on June 29, 2013, 09:36:48 PM
I got my money on Tradefortress!!!

Hopefully you trusted less than 27 btc on him [kicks self for trusting dirtbag tradefortress]  :-[

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151880.0;all


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: dRMergatroid on June 30, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
This is some funny shit, for about one page, then immaturity and name calling with some belligerent self-defense swoop in like vile harpies.
Whoops people, learn to lurk.
And crank down the vulgarity... in RL you are allowed to talk that way in Philly and NY.
 On the internet it is generally best to assume a polite tone unless you are a troll...


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: DiamondCardz on June 30, 2013, 10:13:13 AM
r3wt:

>> Spams whois info of a mod
>> Moans about a perma-ban, when he sends e-mails to the admin calling him a fucking bitch he is surprised when admin retaliates and also takes action about the whois spamming.

tl;dr fag


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: whiskers75 on July 16, 2013, 02:40:29 PM
Hello! I've been affected by this too! :P


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252961.0


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on July 16, 2013, 02:41:36 PM
Hello! I've been affected by this too! :P


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252961.0

No, I'm pretty sure he just doesn't like you.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: whiskers75 on July 16, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
Hello! I've been affected by this too! :P


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252961.0

No, I'm pretty sure he just doesn't like you.

:O

Well, he used to.


Title: Re: Being Rick Rolled By Trade Fortress
Post by: greyhawk on July 16, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
Hello! I've been affected by this too! :P


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252961.0

No, I'm pretty sure he just doesn't like you.

:O

Well, he used to.

Have you thought about baking him a cake?