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Title: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 02:53:02 PM
TerraHash Order Queue and Info
- Updated 6/19 9:26PM PST. -

Latest News
June 19th - TerraHash's PayPal account is on hold due to large influx of funds yesterday.

TerraHash
"We will send an email [on June 21st] to let you know whether your order falls within first batch or not, and when can you expect it to be shipped. You can then cancel your order or choose to keep it."

TerraHash
"We believe chips ordered today will be shipped at most a couple weeks after the ones ordered in April, not 2 months."

But their Avalon chip order screenshot shows an order date of May 10th.  What April chip order?  


Timeline
May 10th - TerraHash places order for 10,000 Avalon chips.
May 14th - Cloud Hashing send $80,000 down payment for 10x fully populated DX Larges (6400 chips)*1 to TerraHash.
May 16th -  TerraHash places second 10,000 chip order.
June 4th - Cloud Hashing cancels their 10x DX Large order.
June 5th (approx)  TerraHash moves into their offices and shows pics of some fans and a multimeter.
June 13th - TerraHash show Avalon chip samples and empty Klondike board.
June 14th - TerraHash announces they are going to take preorders on June 18th.  (Probably because they need to give an $80,000 refund to Cloudhashing (see link to article below)
June 18th - Pre-orders open at 9AM PST.
June 19th - Terrahash orders more Avalon chips - they expect this order will ship a couple weeks after their first chip order(s).

http://www.coindesk.com/terrahash-opens-asic-mining-preorders-loses-business/

*1) This assumes the $105,000 quoted order cost in the Coindesk article is because each DX Large is $10,500.

* TerraHash - all unpaid PayPal/Bitcoin order will be cancelled on June 19th.  Bank transfer orders have 2-3 days to go through and save their place in the queue.

* TerraHash - largest order was for two fully populated DX Larges.

* TerraHash opened for pre-orders on June 18th at 9AM PST.  TH said ordering was supposed to be open only to early subscribers for the first 24 hours, but at some point became open to all.

* TH has shown a screenshot of a 10,000 chip order dated May 10th 2013, and says they ordered another 10,000 chips within a few days of the first one (likely between May 14th to May 16th using funds from rcvd from Cloudhashing on May 14th).


List of Orders placed (as reported by individual on this forum)

18860 chips accounted for in 68 orders equals 277 chips per order.  
20,000 chips = First 72 orders paid in full will be fulfilled in the first batch.


TerraHash estimates the second batch will be shipping a couple weeks after the first.


Bank transfer orders have 2-3 days to be received, and therefore save their order number.

TerraHash says that orders will ship according to initial order placement, as long as payment was made within 24-48 hours.   But basically this only applies to wire transfers, allowing 2-3 days for those to go through.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: btceic on June 19, 2013, 03:04:03 PM
fyi, I am fully paid via paypal.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: USMCGrunt0307 on June 19, 2013, 03:12:42 PM
Maybe im an idiot (more then likely :D ) but....I thought the K16 boards were 16 chips per board?  If that's the case, I "only" ordered 5 K16s....my order (#481) isn't 320 chips.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: cad_cdn on June 19, 2013, 03:13:54 PM
updating my order for this chart;
#827 = K64 + K16
paid


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
So I took the data thus far and created a spreadsheet which should fairly accurately predict whether an order will fall in the first 10,000, 20,000 or beyond.  It uses the assumption that all of the missing data/orders follow the same trends as the orders listed (i.e. average chip count, % of cancellations and % of unpaid orders).  It also assumes that if there is no data for paid status that it was paid for and that if there is no data for chip count the order was for the average chip count.  The first column assumes that all unpaid orders will be paid for.  The second assumes that none of the unpaid orders will be paid for.  It is likely somewhere between the two.  If you have any of the missing data/orders please post it here or PM me and I will update the sheet.

Currently the cutoff for the first 10,000 is between order 465 and 475.  The cutoff for the first 20,000 is between order 515 and 540.

Terrahash Order Tracking (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing)

jdape,

Please link to this in the OP.  Also note that I've added a few orders based on some PMs I received.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: USMCGrunt0307 on June 19, 2013, 03:31:17 PM
As order #481....I hope your dead wrong :( .....or that they fill shipments by order of payments.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: tilecuwi on June 19, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Updating my Order for this Char:

#937 : 1x K16   (paid)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: terrahash on June 19, 2013, 03:34:51 PM
This list is incorrect. For instance, there is no order number 430 in our system. The first order was 434.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: gwoplock on June 19, 2013, 03:36:55 PM
FYI, my order was for 16 chips and was paid


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: btceic on June 19, 2013, 03:37:29 PM
This list is incorrect. For instance, there is no order number 430 in our system. The first order was 434.

Please respond to all of the allegations that are being thrown around.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 19, 2013, 03:38:10 PM
So I took the data thus far and created a spreadsheet which should fairly accurately predict whether an order will fall in the first 10,000, 20,000 or beyond.  It uses the assumption that all of the missing data/orders follow the same trends as the orders listed (i.e. average chip count, % of cancellations and % of unpaid orders).  It also assumes that if there is no data for paid status that it was paid for and that if there is no data for chip count the order was for the average chip count.  The first column assumes that all unpaid orders will be paid for.  The second assumes that none of the unpaid orders will be paid for.  It is likely somewhere between the two.  If you have any of the missing data/orders please post it here or PM me and I will update the sheet.

Currently the cutoff for the first 10,000 is between order 465 and 475.  The cutoff for the first 20,000 is between order 515 and 540.

Terrahash Order Tracking (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing)

jdape,

Please link to this in the OP.  Also note that I've added a few orders based on some PMs I received.

Awesome chart, Cryptoin.  Are you assuming the order numbers went up in increments of 1?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: cad_cdn on June 19, 2013, 03:42:29 PM
+1
please.
We appreciate that you commented, but I believe you addressed the wrong issue(s) in response to your order numbering.
- Please address order priority is either paid vs FCFS and unpaid\hold\cancelled
- is there 10k or indeed 20k chips with recent cloudhashing.com cancellation
- some kind of indication of order numbers vs 1st 10k batch or 20k

thx

This list is incorrect. For instance, there is no order number 430 in our system. The first order was 434.

Please respond to all of the allegations that are being thrown around.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
So I took the data thus far and created a spreadsheet which should fairly accurately predict whether an order will fall in the first 10,000, 20,000 or beyond.  It uses the assumption that all of the missing data/orders follow the same trends as the orders listed (i.e. average chip count, % of cancellations and % of unpaid orders).  It also assumes that if there is no data for paid status that it was paid for and that if there is no data for chip count the order was for the average chip count.  The first column assumes that all unpaid orders will be paid for.  The second assumes that none of the unpaid orders will be paid for.  It is likely somewhere between the two.  If you have any of the missing data/orders please post it here or PM me and I will update the sheet.

Currently the cutoff for the first 10,000 is between order 465 and 475.  The cutoff for the first 20,000 is between order 515 and 540.

Terrahash Order Tracking (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing)

jdape,

Please link to this in the OP.  Also note that I've added a few orders based on some PMs I received.

Awesome chart, jdape.  Are you assuming the order numbers went up in increments of 1?

It assumes the orders went up by an increment of 1.  In response to their order numbers not starting at 430 I will contact bargraphics who has claimed this order and confirm.  Regardless of whether his order was 430 or 437 the results will be very similar.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: terrahash on June 19, 2013, 03:53:53 PM
+1
please.
We appreciate that you commented, but I believe you addressed the wrong issue(s) in response to your order numbering.
- Please address order priority is either paid vs FCFS and unpaid\hold\cancelled
- is there 10k or indeed 20k chips with recent cloudhashing.com cancellation
- some kind of indication of order numbers vs 1st 10k batch or 20k

thx

This list is incorrect. For instance, there is no order number 430 in our system. The first order was 434.

Please respond to all of the allegations that are being thrown around.

We will be doing FCFS with orders that have been paid by yesterday. The 2-3 days waiting period is only for the orders paid with Bank Transfer.
We have 20K chips. We will be ordering more today. Avalon will be making chips in bulk. We believe chips ordered today will be shipped at most a couple weeks after the ones ordered in April, not 2 months.
We will send an email day after tomorrow to let you know whether your order falls within first batch or not, and when can you expect it to be shipped. You can then cancel your order or choose to keep it.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: terrahash on June 19, 2013, 03:55:53 PM
I'm order # 432 btw not #430 but was confirmed first order when I called them.

Btw Mine is paid

I am sorry. I just checked again. You are correct. 432 is the first order. 434 is the first "paid" order. Your's is marked "unpaid", as you paid with Bank Transfer.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: cad_cdn on June 19, 2013, 03:57:23 PM
+1
thank you for clarification!

+1
please.
We appreciate that you commented, but I believe you addressed the wrong issue(s) in response to your order numbering.
- Please address order priority is either paid vs FCFS and unpaid\hold\cancelled
- is there 10k or indeed 20k chips with recent cloudhashing.com cancellation
- some kind of indication of order numbers vs 1st 10k batch or 20k

thx

This list is incorrect. For instance, there is no order number 430 in our system. The first order was 434.

Please respond to all of the allegations that are being thrown around.

We will be doing FCFS with orders that have been paid by yesterday. The 2-3 days waiting period is only for the orders paid with Bank Transfer.
We have 20K chips. We will be ordering more today. Avalon will be making chips in bulk. We believe chips ordered today will be shipped at most a couple weeks after the ones ordered in April, not 2 months.
We will send an email day after tomorrow to let you know whether your order falls within first batch or not, and when can you expect it to be shipped. You can then cancel your order or choose to keep it.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: massnerder on June 19, 2013, 03:57:35 PM
will be watching for that email, thanks th  :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 04:03:51 PM
+1
please.
We appreciate that you commented, but I believe you addressed the wrong issue(s) in response to your order numbering.
- Please address order priority is either paid vs FCFS and unpaid\hold\cancelled
- is there 10k or indeed 20k chips with recent cloudhashing.com cancellation
- some kind of indication of order numbers vs 1st 10k batch or 20k

thx

This list is incorrect. For instance, there is no order number 430 in our system. The first order was 434.

Please respond to all of the allegations that are being thrown around.

We will be doing FCFS with orders that have been paid by yesterday. The 2-3 days waiting period is only for the orders paid with Bank Transfer.
We have 20K chips. We will be ordering more today. Avalon will be making chips in bulk. We believe chips ordered today will be shipped at most a couple weeks after the ones ordered in April, not 2 months.
We will send an email day after tomorrow to let you know whether your order falls within first batch or not, and when can you expect it to be shipped. You can then cancel your order or choose to keep it.

So everything that was paid for yesterday (with the exception of bank transfers) has locked spot in the que and the unpaid orders will be bumped down in the que?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: massnerder on June 19, 2013, 04:10:42 PM
All the Bitcoin/PayPal orders that have not been paid fully will be cancelled today. We have been misquoted, that we will wait 6-7 days. We will wait for 2-3 days for the orders marked as "Bank Transfers", for the transfers to come in.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 04:29:15 PM
All the Bitcoin/PayPal orders that have not been paid fully will be cancelled today. We have been misquoted, that we will wait 6-7 days. We will wait for 2-3 days for the orders marked as "Bank Transfers", for the transfers to come in.

Based on this latest update the best case is still the "likley paid chips" column which assumes that all unpaid orders will be cancelled.

In other words the current best case scenario at the moment is orders under 480 will be in the first 10k and orders under 548 will be in the first 20k


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: nikycoin on June 19, 2013, 04:36:03 PM
Im more and more confident that i will be in batch 2 :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 04:41:15 PM
Im more and more confident that i will be in batch 2 :)

If by batch 2 you mean under 20,000 than it is unlikely.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Gordon Bleu on June 19, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
add 888 just 16 Chips Board - not my own Chips


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: atomicchaos on June 19, 2013, 04:53:24 PM
I expect that if we are bumped into batch two, refunds will be granted upon request?



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:01:31 PM

It assumes the orders went up by an increment of 1.  In response to their order numbers not starting at 430 I will contact bargraphics who has claimed this order and confirm.  Regardless of whether his order was 430 or 437 the results will be very similar.

It's been said by TerraHash and also proven by third parties that the order numbers are in fact NOT sequential so there are way less unreported orders.  Therefore your spreadsheet is currently very innacurate and way more orders will be in first batches.

I made this exact same mistake yesterday. :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: naRky on June 19, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/terrahash-opens-asic-mining-preorders-loses-business/  ???


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:06:23 PM
Maybe im an idiot (more then likely :D ) but....I thought the K16 boards were 16 chips per board?  If that's the case, I "only" ordered 5 K16s....my order (#481) isn't 320 chips.

Thanks for the correction.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Blue777 on June 19, 2013, 05:16:20 PM
#558 108chip paid yesterday with PayPal.but now status of my order is still processing.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Vigil on June 19, 2013, 05:23:01 PM
On Paypal my transaction says "complete" but TH says "processing".


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:23:27 PM
On Paypal my transaction says "complete" but TH says "processing".

That's normal.  Processing = payment received by TH.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 05:33:27 PM

It assumes the orders went up by an increment of 1.  In response to their order numbers not starting at 430 I will contact bargraphics who has claimed this order and confirm.  Regardless of whether his order was 430 or 437 the results will be very similar.

It's been said by TerraHash and also proven by third parties that the order numbers are in fact NOT sequential so there are way less unreported orders.  Therefore your spreadsheet is currently very innacurate and way more orders will be in first batches.

I made this exact same mistake yesterday. :)

Where have they stated this?  What third party?  Did I miss this somewhere in the threads?  The early orders don't appear to reflect this.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pixl8tr on June 19, 2013, 05:37:34 PM
I take it to mean something different.  Of course the order numbers are sequential. They go from 430 to XXXXXX one at a time.
What I assume he means is the time they finalized an order  maybe different. They are not sequential.  IE order #450 took his sweet time loading his cart, but order 500 was lightening fast and loaded his cart and checked out before order 450 was done.  IN this scenario, order number 500 is ahead of order number 450 in the queue.






Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:37:58 PM
Yea, you missed it :)

I was working on the same spreadsheet and it was pointed out to me that order numbers are not sequential.  TerraHash said they use Woocommerce and it does NOT use sequential ordering.

The order numbering scheme is semi-random so you can have order numbers one after another, but then it skips 'x' order numbers before the next real order number.




Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:39:03 PM
They go from 430 to XXXXXX one at a time.

No, they go from 432 to XXX by randomly skipping to a higher number! :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
The order numbers started from 430. The order numbers do not increment by 1. I really don't know how this shopping cart software works, but we are using WooCommerce.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pixl8tr on June 19, 2013, 05:40:57 PM
They go from 430 to XXXXXX one at a time.

No, they go from 432 to XXX by randomly skipping to a higher number! :)


That is odd way to program something, but OK.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cobra on June 19, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
#483 32 chips - paid


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 05:53:52 PM
First post updated with most known information, corrections, a timeline, and the latest news from TerraHash.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 05:56:11 PM
Yea, you missed it :)

I was working on the same spreadsheet and it was pointed out to me that order numbers are not sequential.  TerraHash said they use Woocommerce and it does NOT use sequential ordering.

The order numbering scheme is semi-random so you can have order numbers one after another, but then it skips 'x' order numbers before the next real order number.




This doesn't make any sense to me.  Are stating that an order # is generated as soon as something is added to the cart rather than when you go to checkout and then the que is generated by checkout completion? Please clarify.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: crashzilla on June 19, 2013, 05:56:51 PM
# 647 640 chips paid yesterday


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pixl8tr on June 19, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
From the Woocommerce documentation:http://docs.woothemes.com/document/managing-orders/

Quote
Orders are created when a customer completes the checkout process and are visible by Admin and Shop Manager users only. Each order is given a unique Order ID.

Order IDs are just like Post IDs and are thus non-sequential – for sequential order numbers you can use a plugin.
An order also has a status. The order statuses let you know how far along the order is, starting from pending and ending with complete. The following order statuses are used:

Pending – Order received (unpaid)
Failed – Payment failed or was declined (unpaid)
Processing – Payment received and stock has been reduced- the order is awaiting fulfilment
Completed – Order fulfilled and complete – requires no further action
On-Hold – Awaiting payment – stock is reduced, but you need to confirm payment
Cancelled – Cancelled by an admin or the customer – no further action required
Refunded – Refunded by an admin - no further action required


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 19, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
So Terrahash was right all along.  Non-sequential just means the orders do not go up by one.  But I think the order number still let's us know where we are in the queue.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 19, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
Yea, you missed it :)

I was working on the same spreadsheet and it was pointed out to me that order numbers are not sequential.  TerraHash said they use Woocommerce and it does NOT use sequential ordering.

The order numbering scheme is semi-random so you can have order numbers one after another, but then it skips 'x' order numbers before the next real order number.


This doesn't make any sense to me.  Are stating that an order # is generated as soon as something is added to the cart rather than when you go to checkout and then the que is generated by checkout completion? Please clarify.

The orders numbers are semi-randomly incremented.  i.e. Not one after another.   You might want to edit your posts and remove your spreadsheet cause you are freaking people out :)

You're right though, it makes no sense.  I can't believe anyone would code something like that, especially for ecommerce.   I bet TerraHash was surprised when they saw how the order numbers were being generated.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: mrmx on June 19, 2013, 06:10:48 PM
Hi!

#1180 160 chips Paid fully


Cheers!


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 19, 2013, 06:22:38 PM
Yea, you missed it :)

I was working on the same spreadsheet and it was pointed out to me that order numbers are not sequential.  TerraHash said they use Woocommerce and it does NOT use sequential ordering.

The order numbering scheme is semi-random so you can have order numbers one after another, but then it skips 'x' order numbers before the next real order number.


This doesn't make any sense to me.  Are stating that an order # is generated as soon as something is added to the cart rather than when you go to checkout and then the que is generated by checkout completion? Please clarify.

The orders numbers are semi-randomly incremented.  i.e. Not one after another.   You might want to edit your posts and remove your spreadsheet cause you are freaking people out :)

You're right though, it makes no sense.  I can't believe anyone would code something like that, especially for ecommerce.   I bet TerraHash was surprised when they saw how the order numbers were being generated.

I wouldn't say remove the spreadsheet.  Just tweak the numbers based on the information that the orders did not go up by 1. 


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Yea, you missed it :)

I was working on the same spreadsheet and it was pointed out to me that order numbers are not sequential.  TerraHash said they use Woocommerce and it does NOT use sequential ordering.

The order numbering scheme is semi-random so you can have order numbers one after another, but then it skips 'x' order numbers before the next real order number.


This doesn't make any sense to me.  Are stating that an order # is generated as soon as something is added to the cart rather than when you go to checkout and then the que is generated by checkout completion? Please clarify.

The orders numbers are semi-randomly incremented.  i.e. Not one after another.   You might want to edit your posts and remove your spreadsheet cause you are freaking people out :)

You're right though, it makes no sense.  I can't believe anyone would code something like that, especially for ecommerce.   I bet TerraHash was surprised when they saw how the order numbers were being generated.

Well if that is the case and there are not in fact orders for every number then the reported chip columns are still valid.  However they are a best case scenario assuming that all orders have been reported so take that for what it is worth.  I could also just increase the cancelled % heavily to account for this.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: riazg on June 19, 2013, 06:30:23 PM
You can update my order - 491 - Paid @ 9:02:58


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: TookTheRedPill on June 19, 2013, 06:48:56 PM
Just a quick update, I have paid in full for my order ,#447. My associate made a mistake when posting. The correct items that we ordered were:
1x Full DX Large
1x DX Large (4 Modules)
1x Full DX Mini
1x DX Mini (2 Modules)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: USMCGrunt0307 on June 19, 2013, 07:06:14 PM
Just a quick update, I have paid in full for my order ,#447. My associate made a mistake when posting. The correct items that we ordered were:
1x Full DX Large
1x DX Large (4 Modules)
1x Full DX Mini
1x DX Mini (2 Modules)

F you TookTheRedPill....sucking up all the 1st batch chips :D


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 07:19:23 PM
So I updated the sheet with two more columns to reflect "non sequential" ordering.  There is no way to know right now but I took a guess that 60% of the missing order numbers do not exist.  You should be able to modify that number yourself if you want and see where you fall depending on how many numbers you think they are actually skipping.  Quite honestly I doubt it is anywhere near 60%.  It is probably much lower.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bulletproofd on June 19, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
Order #496 2x 10 module DX Large (1280 chips). Cheers!

(update: paid!)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: thaychuari on June 19, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
#941 K64 paid.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 19, 2013, 10:10:28 PM
Updated.  I also changed the missing data cells to orange.

I am missing data from the following users please provide in the thread or PM me unless you would not like it public.

Payment Status

MrBea
bearsworth
btceic
designdream
detail3
ethought
Pistachio
rizzman


Chip Count

brambi
hchc

Both Chip Count & Payment Status

gym
jelin1984
kendog77
pleasuretek


Also note that those of you who PM me unless you specifically request your UN not to be shown it will be put on the sheet.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pleasuretek on June 19, 2013, 11:56:44 PM
#749 - 3 k16 boards   - paid
#920 - 13 k16 boards - paid

and orders #918 and #919 were also mine, but paypal was not letting me spend the money so I did a wire transfer on order #920 (I have recieved an email confirmation that funds have cleared).

Since these boards are going to be produced from the bkkcoin designs I chose to order the version that is under development and testing currently. I do not see any plans for the k64 in bkkcoin's github for this project (although once the k16 boards are up and have the communications ready, it should not be that hard to expand).


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 20, 2013, 12:02:06 AM
#749 - 3 k16 boards   - paid
#920 - 13 k16 boards - paid

and orders #918 and #919 were also mine, but paypal was not letting me spend the money so I did a wire transfer on order #920 (I have recieved an email confirmation that funds have cleared).

Since these boards are going to be produced from the bkkcoin designs I chose to order the version that is under development and testing currently. I do not see any plans for the k64 in bkkcoin's github for this project (although once the k16 boards are up and have the communications ready, it should not be that hard to expand).

I think the K64 board is just 4 k16s.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 20, 2013, 01:30:36 AM
Worrying; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238429.msg2525139#msg2525139 ???


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: newguy05 on June 20, 2013, 02:01:12 AM
why I am always the last one in the queue  >:(


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jdape on June 20, 2013, 02:04:41 AM
Worrying; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238429.msg2525139#msg2525139 ???

Thats for batch #2.  Nothing to worry about.

Well, i call it a batch when what i really mean is the delay between when terrahash builds and ships all the boards using the first 20,000 chips And when they receive their next 20,000.  This assumes that they actually ship all their product before the next chip order arrives.  :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 20, 2013, 02:11:43 AM
Worrying; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238429.msg2525139#msg2525139 ???

Thats for batch #2.  Nothing to worry about.

Well, i call it a batch when what i really mean is the delay between when terrahash builds and ships all the boards using the first 20,000 chips And when they receive their next 20,000.  This assumes that they actually ship all their product before the next chip order arrives.  :)

Dude you can only build 15 2/3 fully loaded 180Gh/s DXs per 10,000 chips!!


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: MinermanNC on June 20, 2013, 02:18:55 AM
Updated.  I also changed the missing data cells to orange.

I am missing data from the following users please provide in the thread or PM me unless you would not like it public.

Payment Status

MrBea
bearsworth
btceic
bulletproofd
Desertxp
designdream
detail3
ethought
Pistachio
rizzman


Chip Count

brambi


hchc

Both Chip Count & Payment Status

darkfriend77
gym
jelin1984
kendog77
lubah
pleasuretek


Also note that those of you who PM me unless you specifically request your UN not to be shown it will be put on the sheet.

Ok, I am
order #768 = 128 chips and
order #797 =   32 chips (total 160) paid.

Also, I found order # 769 on ebay (pre order) for a DX large  fully loaded lol, (640 chips) and I assume he has paid as he is a big seller right now....


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: lubah on June 20, 2013, 03:18:07 AM
Pd at 9:02 for dx lg w/ 2boards 128 chips


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on June 20, 2013, 04:56:18 AM
hmm.. i was wonderring about that,
i had my order number by 901 prolly faster and i was still 507
  how did people fill there carts with 5 different orders faster than that


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Canna on June 20, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
Now that my newb status is unlocked, #433 paid via Paypal (confirmed) 1 @ 18 Gh -- 64 chips.

Made a mashup of the receipts to post like someone did earlier, but I don't want to post thru 3rd party. If attachments unlock, I'll be happy to show visual confirmation at any time.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: DoomDumas on June 20, 2013, 07:26:45 AM
Worrying; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238429.msg2525139#msg2525139 ???

Thats for batch #2.  Nothing to worry about.

Well, i call it a batch when what i really mean is the delay between when terrahash builds and ships all the boards using the first 20,000 chips And when they receive their next 20,000.  This assumes that they actually ship all their product before the next chip order arrives.  :)

Indeed, as you write : "assumption" here.. I will be surprised if they can assemble and ship 20000 chip within 2 to 4 weeks.. If they deliver, I may order from them, once efficiency to produce proven..

Thanks a lot OP and other participant for all this info gathering, very appreciated !

Keep up the good community work :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: darkfriend77 on June 20, 2013, 11:13:03 AM
#441 payment done ... bank wire ... is

Order: #441
Product   Quantity   Price
TerraHash DX Mini
Number of Modules: 20 (90 GHash/sec),
Power Supply: Yes   1   $ 6,000.00
Cart Subtotal:   $ 6,000.00
Shipping:   $ 750.00 via International Shipping
Order Total:   $ 6,750.00


rest will be canceled....

#479 will be canceled
#503 will be canceled
#526 will be canceled


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 20, 2013, 11:21:26 AM
Worrying; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238429.msg2525139#msg2525139 ???

Thats for batch #2.  Nothing to worry about.

Well, i call it a batch when what i really mean is the delay between when terrahash builds and ships all the boards using the first 20,000 chips And when they receive their next 20,000.  This assumes that they actually ship all their product before the next chip order arrives.  :)

Indeed, as you write : "assumption" here.. I will be surprised if they can assemble and ship 20000 chip within 2 to 4 weeks.. If they deliver, I may order from them, once efficiency to produce proven..

Thanks a lot OP and other participant for all this info gathering, very appreciated !

Keep up the good community work :)

Indeed OP deserves a lot of praise for this. Fingers crossed orders time well, potentially with drivers and prototypes left to build it will. Not sure how exactly Cloudhashing can pull out of an order last minute like this, once making Terrahash commit. Can't say I think much of Clouldhashing, their deals for their potential customers look shady to say the least and they appear to f**k people around. Bad omen for their cloud hashing service. Stay well clear...


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Bitcoinorama on June 20, 2013, 11:35:37 AM
Worrying; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238429.msg2525139#msg2525139 ???

Thats for batch #2.  Nothing to worry about.

Well, i call it a batch when what i really mean is the delay between when terrahash builds and ships all the boards using the first 20,000 chips And when they receive their next 20,000.  This assumes that they actually ship all their product before the next chip order arrives.  :)

Indeed, as you write : "assumption" here.. I will be surprised if they can assemble and ship 20000 chip within 2 to 4 weeks.. If they deliver, I may order from them, once efficiency to produce proven..

Thanks a lot OP and other participant for all this info gathering, very appreciated !

Keep up the good community work :)

Indeed OP deserves a lot of praise for this. Fingers crossed orders time well, potentially with drivers and prototypes left to build it will. Not sure how exactly Cloudhashing can pull out of an order last minute like this, once making Terrahash commit. Can't say I think much of Clouldhashing, their deals for their potential customers look shady to say the least and they appear to f**k people around. Bad omen for their cloud hashing service. Stay well clear...

I agree, it would be a huge blow to Terrahash if they let Cloud skip the line after pulling out. It would be nice if they could confirm this isn't the case (They are PST time zone so hopefully we'll receive a reply in around 5 hours.

Also Order numbers #557 and #627 are also mine and will be cancelled. Please update list.

No freaking way should Cloudhashing once forcing Terrahash to commit to ordering 10k chips at their expense, then pulling out be offered anything, but back of the queue!!!

They made Terrahash who promised no pre-orders, force pre-ordering on their prospective customers and had those customers save their own ass. At the same time making Terrahash look like lying c***s.

They owe their real customers everything and Cloud Hashing nothing!

Personally I would sever all interests with the, period, after this, but then I have integrity...


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 20, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
#441 payment done ... bank wire ... is

Order: #441
Product   Quantity   Price
TerraHash DX Mini
Number of Modules: 20 (90 GHash/sec),
Power Supply: Yes   1   $ 6,000.00
Cart Subtotal:   $ 6,000.00
Shipping:   $ 750.00 via International Shipping
Order Total:   $ 6,750.00


rest will be canceled....

#479 will be canceled
#503 will be canceled
#526 will be canceled

What about order 559?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Bigdaddyaz on June 20, 2013, 03:58:46 PM
Hello All,

I'm kinda new here and only just came across this thread. Here are my orders:

#513 - K64 - paid
#563 - K64 - paid
#742 - K64 - pending - trying to switch payment methods.

J


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 20, 2013, 04:16:16 PM
Updated the Matrix and the list of users I am still missing info from below:

Payment Status

btceic
detail3
ethought
Pistachio
rizzman


Chip Count

brambi
hchc

Both Chip Count & Payment Status

gym
jelin1984
pleasuretek


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: chanberg on June 20, 2013, 05:38:16 PM
Was terrahash suppose to update us today regarding our order queue?

Danny


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: cad_cdn on June 20, 2013, 05:39:20 PM
everyone (patiently?) just waiting on TH order status email now...


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bsuperior2 on June 20, 2013, 05:40:17 PM
TerraHash
"We will send an email [on June 21st] to let you know whether your order falls within first batch or not, and when can you expect it to be shipped. You can then cancel your order or choose to keep it."


I think?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: darkfriend77 on June 20, 2013, 06:20:14 PM
#441 payment done ... bank wire ... is

Order: #441
Product   Quantity   Price
TerraHash DX Mini
Number of Modules: 20 (90 GHash/sec),
Power Supply: Yes   1   $ 6,000.00
Cart Subtotal:   $ 6,000.00
Shipping:   $ 750.00 via International Shipping
Order Total:   $ 6,750.00


rest will be canceled....

#479 will be canceled
#503 will be canceled
#526 will be canceled

What about order 559?

#559 canceled too .. sry


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: zurg on June 20, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Darn, Was trying to order 1 64 yesterday morning just as they took Paypal out.. :(

So who bought more then they can handle here? lol
I am verified..  :) :) :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bearsworth on June 20, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
I have fully paid for mine. I also have order #613 with 4 k16's.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Vigil on June 20, 2013, 07:48:01 PM
I have fully paid for mine. I also have order #613 with 4 k16's.
Isnt 1 k64 cheaper than 4 k16s?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bearsworth on June 20, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
I ordered some mini -dx so i'm not sure the k64's fit into that case. Maybe they can be seperated heck, but i didn't want to risk it.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 20, 2013, 10:10:09 PM
Just ordered additional 20,000 chips from Avalon. Orders that would not be covered by the first batch, would certainly be covered by these chips.

BitSyncom is going to get the chips produced in bulk from the foundry. We believe that all the orders will be shipped by Avalon in close proximity to each other. So, hopefully, the chips ordered today will be shipped at most a week or two after the ships we ordered on May 10 and 16. In that case, our batch 2 orders will start shipping at most 2 weeks after the batch 1.



So according to this Terrahash would have had to have not received orders yet for more than 40,000 chips.  This is contrary to what I am seeing in the spreadsheet.  Let's assume this is correct.  That means that 80-90% of the orders missing from the sheet are non existent rather than the 60% I estimated.  That means we have accounted for Over 50% of the total orders up to Order 1195.  It also means that there were approximately 215 orders including cancelled orders) out of a possible 763 (had they been sequential).

If all of this is true approximately order 500 will be the cut off for the first 10,000 and order 600-700 for the first 20,000.  Right now alot of this depends on whether user "FUCKT" locks in his orders or whether they are cancelled.  I believe he is currently auctioning off his preorders but they have not been paid for.  Any update on the status of these would increase the accuracy of this sheet quite a bit.

I will add a column for status from Terrahash as well so we can start reporting out on what they have to say about the orders and make sure it aligns with the data we have.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: nikycoin on June 20, 2013, 10:54:01 PM
Im rapping the refresh button since this morning in my email box hoping to have an email from THerrahash with information status on my order as he said so yesterday!


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: mufa23 on June 20, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
I don't mean to hijack this thread, come off as insulting or anything. designdream requested that I start a waiting list similar to the BFL one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685) I did to help keep it organized and simple for everyone. So I started the ["WAIT LIST"] TerraHash Pre-Order Information (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239358) thread as per request. Users are welcome to post over in that thread, and I will do my best to help keep it simple and near effortless for everyone. If it gets little to no activity and/or users want it removed, I can delete the thread.

-Mufa


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pixl8tr on June 20, 2013, 11:52:12 PM
Im rapping the refresh button since this morning in my email box hoping to have an email from THerrahash with information status on my order as he said so yesterday!

He said on the 21st.  Thats tomorrow- Friday   for North America residents.   ;D


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: mufa23 on June 21, 2013, 01:42:31 AM
I don't mean to hijack this thread, come off as insulting or anything. designdream requested that I start a waiting list similar to the BFL one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685) I did to help keep it organized and simple for everyone. So I started the ["WAIT LIST"] TerraHash Pre-Order Information (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239358) thread as per request. Users are welcome to post over in that thread, and I will do my best to help keep it simple and near effortless for everyone. If it gets little to no activity and/or users want it removed, I can delete the thread.

-Mufa

This is the same as https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing correct except in thread form?
Essentially, I think. I've never used Google Docs before, so I may be reading it wrong. But it looks like this is more of a measurement of chip count rather than tracking when orders are made and the day that they arrive. I basically want people to get a general idea when they will receive X item if they order on X date. As well as a bit of detail about the orders as to explain why certain orders take longer or shorter to arrive. Sort of like how users are getting their BFL Jalapenos now, but older orders with Singles are taking longer. It also helps keep a company in check and responsible. Sort of like how everyone dissed BFL for taking 11 months to ship so many orders. Without a list, many wouldn't have known how much of an issue it was.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: angelus359 on June 21, 2013, 02:29:17 AM
I actually made and had failed/canceled 6 orders 1112 and below

I don't remember their exact numbers, unfortunately.

All of them were 16 chip orders. Paypal was derping.

Eventually at 1142 I got a 64 chip order in.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: angelus359 on June 21, 2013, 02:43:44 AM
I'm trying to understand that google doc.

I have order 1112 according to my user name in that.

I'm a bit confused how that chart works.

I ordered 64 chips. Between the order before me, and the order after, it's not 64.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Omen1855 on June 21, 2013, 02:48:09 AM
Order 976 paypal indicates as payed, but had to go through some ID proof since I am abroad. That's all resolved, but terrahash lists my order as refunded. Additionally paypal is investigating the transaction on terrahash's part. All very confusing now...

Order is a dx large @90gh.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 21, 2013, 03:05:59 AM
I don't mean to hijack this thread, come off as insulting or anything. designdream requested that I start a waiting list similar to the BFL one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685) I did to help keep it organized and simple for everyone. So I started the ["WAIT LIST"] TerraHash Pre-Order Information (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239358) thread as per request. Users are welcome to post over in that thread, and I will do my best to help keep it simple and near effortless for everyone. If it gets little to no activity and/or users want it removed, I can delete the thread.

-Mufa

This is the same as https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing correct except in thread form?
Essentially, I think. I've never used Google Docs before, so I may be reading it wrong. But it looks like this is more of a measurement of chip count rather than tracking when orders are made and the day that they arrive. I basically want people to get a general idea when they will receive X item if they order on X date. As well as a bit of detail about the orders as to explain why certain orders take longer or shorter to arrive. Sort of like how users are getting their BFL Jalapenos now, but older orders with Singles are taking longer. It also helps keep a company in check and responsible. Sort of like how everyone dissed BFL for taking 11 months to ship so many orders. Without a list, many wouldn't have known how much of an issue it was.

Yeah the intention of this sheet was to predict whether your order will fall into the initial 20,000 chips that Terrahash is receiving by looking at the data provided and making assumptions for every order that we don't have information for (this gets pretty tricky since apparently the ordering system randomly jumps numbers i.e. one order may be 100 and the next is 107).  Based on whether your order falls in the initial 20,000 chip batch you can predict when you can expect to see your order.  Your thread is more of a long term tracking tool which is also very useful but I don't want to commit to manually entering every order that comes in for the next ever.

A better method may be to use a google spreadsheet and entry form that way people can just enter their own information and it will automatically populate the sheet.  I probably should do this for the current spreadsheet too or just combine them all into one database.  I'll take a look at it further when I get a few hours.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 21, 2013, 03:27:17 AM
I'm trying to understand that google doc.

I have order 1112 according to my user name in that.

I'm a bit confused how that chart works.

I ordered 64 chips. Between the order before me, and the order after, it's not 64.

So order 1112 is cancelled then and you placed a 64 chip paid order under 1142?  As far as the other cancelled orders please check your account and let me know what the order #s are so I can update them.

The thing you want to look at on the sheet is if your order falls under the 20,000 chip mark (i.e. it is green or yellow).  You probably shouldn't pay attention to the columns off to the right.  The most likely predictions are column B and C.  Column B is the worst case scenario (All unpaid orders are paid for) and Column C is the best case scenario (All unpaid orders are cancelled). 

Right now it appears the best case is that up to order 700 is in the first 20,000 chips.  Worst case is 600. 

What this means is that since your order does not fall within the first 20,000 chips it will be built with the chip order they just placed which according to Terrahash will only come in about 2 weeks later than their initial 20,000 chip order even though the latest order was placed almost a month and a half after their first chip order.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 21, 2013, 04:54:31 AM
So I was tooling around with the sheet and decided to start a better database with an input form.  Eventually I will try to combine the existing chip estimation sheet to feed off the database but this is more for long term order tracking purposes.  The link to the input form is below and I will likely add it to my sig as well.  Check it out and let me know if you think there is anything I should add or change.  The database itself can be viewed in the same spreadsheet on page 2.

Terrahash Order Database Input Form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fbmA05bCiiQlHJcO6m60Uk45Os5nyC3XOYTKRSRrfm8/viewform)



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 21, 2013, 05:00:47 AM
BTW is there a way to embed HTML in posts here?  If so I can just start a new topic and embed the form right in it.

Also if there are other people trustworthy, willing and familair with excel and/or google docs that are interested in helping maintain this stuff let me know and I can add you as a collaborator.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 21, 2013, 07:14:05 PM
So I've added a sheet where users can leave updates, questions and comments right in the order tracking workbook.  If you have any problems editing it let me know.  Also if you haven't submitted your order information via the submission form please do so as this database will be much better for long term tracking of orders and providing further analytics.

The form is linked below and in my sig.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fbmA05bCiiQlHJcO6m60Uk45Os5nyC3XOYTKRSRrfm8/viewform

I also will be generating a new topic that lays this process/information out a bit better and will be in the OP instead of spread all across this thread.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 21, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
So I've added a sheet where users can leave updates, questions and comments right in the order tracking workbook.  If you have any problems editing it let me know.  Also if you haven't submitted your order information via the submission form please do so as this database will be much better for long term tracking of orders and providing further analytics.

The form is linked below and in my sig.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fbmA05bCiiQlHJcO6m60Uk45Os5nyC3XOYTKRSRrfm8/viewform

I also will be generating a new topic that lays this process/information out a bit better and will be in the OP instead of spread all across this thread.

Cryptoin, you've done some amazing work for everyone who ordered from Terrahash.  If you post a BTC address I wouldn't mind sending you a little something for your efforts.  I encourage everyone else who ordered from Terrrahash and uses his spreadsheet to do the same.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: massnerder on June 22, 2013, 12:43:07 AM
Cryptoin, you've done some amazing work for everyone who ordered from Terrahash.  If you post a BTC address I wouldn't mind sending you a little something for your efforts.  I encourage everyone else who ordered from Terrrahash and uses his spreadsheet to do the same.

It's in his sig, and not a bad idea  :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 22, 2013, 12:48:03 AM
Cryptoin, you've done some amazing work for everyone who ordered from Terrahash.  If you post a BTC address I wouldn't mind sending you a little something for your efforts.  I encourage everyone else who ordered from Terrrahash and uses his spreadsheet to do the same.

It's in his sig, and not a bad idea  :)

Can't see it.  The bottom of his sig is cut off.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: massnerder on June 22, 2013, 12:49:32 AM
Quote from: cryptoin
If you find my posts helpful...  BTC: 1QDbQgaeCvhyy4yLKbEKBWuFp9HBAnBFPz - LTC: LX4ZGhT9S159nJmpLvXQTK7ByqMBMctXxU


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Vigil on June 22, 2013, 12:50:02 AM
So has anyone been given a delivery estimate by TerraHash?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Silvas on June 22, 2013, 01:12:49 AM
So has anyone been given a delivery estimate by TerraHash?

We will be canceling at 6pm today, all wire-transfer orders placed on Tuesday, for which we don't receive a wire by today evening. Only in very rare cases (mostly where the wire is coming from out of the country) we will restore orders if the wire comes in on Monday or Tuesday. All other wires coming next week will be returned. We also won't change shipping address and/or email addresses associated with an account (except for rare cases). We will compile all the order data during the weekend, and on Monday we will send out an email to all the customers letting them know whether their order falls within the first batch of 20,000 chips or the 2nd batch.

Monday now seems to be the target date for more info - that's going to be whether we are in the first batch of 20k chips or not; I don't think it's actually going to be a delivery estimate
Honestly a delivery estimate is completely and utterly premature right now - there's too many things that can and probably will change delivery targets (avalon delivering chips on time, board reworks needed as problems are identified, holdups in the firmware/driver development process)
I'd be perfectly happy with knowing what batch my order is in (first 10k, second 10k, the latest 20k order or beyond) and having them go back to work but supply us with regular and timely updates in a centralized location (either this board, email blasts, or their site) on how the development/testing process is going (say once or twice a week)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: duke1839 on June 22, 2013, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: cryptoin
If you find my posts helpful...  BTC: 1QDbQgaeCvhyy4yLKbEKBWuFp9HBAnBFPz - LTC: LX4ZGhT9S159nJmpLvXQTK7ByqMBMctXxU

Thanks, it actually shows up on my laptop but is cutoff on the iPad


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Vigil on June 22, 2013, 02:10:50 AM
If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Silvas on June 22, 2013, 02:32:44 AM
If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Vigil on June 22, 2013, 03:15:49 AM
If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later


I know where to get some chips for BTC.1, but I don't know the date of their group buy. I know it is before the last 20k order from TH.

Edit: OK, nevermind, they are raising their price to BTC.2, but they are also working on boards which are going to be OCed to 350 MH/s chip supposedly. These dudes with the group buys are going to shoot themselves in the foot because they are going to be undercut by big board-makers. Then ASICMiner is coming out with their nextgen chips sometime in Oct./Nov.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Silvas on June 22, 2013, 03:23:17 AM
If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later


I know where to get some chips for BTC.1, but I don't know the date of their group buy. I know it is before the last 20k order from TH.

At 0.1 per chip that would be pretty close to TH pricing anyways, so if you knew for sure you could get the chips significantly quicker, then yes it would probably be worth it imo.  Given that you've got additional shipping delays having chips shipped to you, then re-shipped to TH (unless you could get them shipped direct from your seller to TH and TH made aware of them being yours even though someone else was sending them), you'd need to be able to get them at least 2 weeks sooner to account for extra shipping time plus actually see some benefit (if the time difference in the end  is only a couple days, is it really worth the trouble to go through?)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: gill83 on June 22, 2013, 03:27:09 AM
If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later


Isn't it true that Avalon is getting a million chips manufactured in a bulk order from the foundry, and will be shipping them all together?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Silvas on June 22, 2013, 04:59:57 AM
If we are in the second 20k batch, is it worth it to go through with the order or to find a different route to purchase chips and send them in to be completed with the first batch? Any thoughts on this?

well the 2nd 20k batch has already been ordered, so getting in on a group buy at this point would be no better.  If you could find someone willing to sell their chips from an early group buy then it might be worth it, but the only people I've seen re-selling their chips have been going at a 100% or higher markup from what they paid (which is around a 10% markup from what the group buy organizer paid)

you're gonna end up paying around $20 per chip or more buying someone else's early group buy chips.  On even a 16 chip board that comes out to 320 for chips, plus 90 for assembly, plus shipping chips to you, from you to terrahash, and then shipping of the completed board back to you
you're talking about $420+ for a 16 chip board, that kills return profitability just as much as getting the board later


Isn't it true that Avalon is getting a million chips manufactured in a bulk order from the foundry, and will be shipping them all together?

We don't really know that for sure.  TH said that Avalon told him that they were bulk ordering from the foundry and he expects his new order to not be more than a week or 2 after the original.  So that would somewhat indicate that they're not shipping them all together.  Plus, Avalon hasn't exactly been too good at timely delivery of products or being upfront with customers, so who knows.  They're certainly not as bad as BFL has been, but they're not good either.
Also, if they are waiting and doing these all in bulk and shipping at once, they'd be delaying all the early orders to coincide with the later ones.  Considering we're already around 6-8 weeks past the first of the chip buys, that could piss off a lot of people - not that I think they give a damn what their customers think. 
They've got this tech ideology thing going on where they just want to do cool stuff with tech and don't want to deal with customers and support and making people happy.  It's great for an engineer to have that attitude, not so much for a businessperson.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Igor_Rast on June 22, 2013, 03:25:32 PM
Probably some of the latst orders before they closed it

Hope I get them fast :p

Please update

Order # 1321  date :21-06-2013   2 x K-16 ; (Chipcount :32)  Payed with bitcoins

Thanks 



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Shimple on June 22, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
Order #1230, I sent the money via wire transfer on Thursday, so this money it should be cleared. So? (Paid)

I ordered 3x 18GHs boards. 3x 64 chips if I'm not mistaken = 194 chips.

Order #1230, paid 192 chips


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 22, 2013, 09:49:12 PM
So I've added a sheet where users can leave updates, questions and comments right in the order tracking workbook.  If you have any problems editing it let me know.  Also if you haven't submitted your order information via the submission form please do so as this database will be much better for long term tracking of orders and providing further analytics.

The form is linked below and in my sig.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fbmA05bCiiQlHJcO6m60Uk45Os5nyC3XOYTKRSRrfm8/viewform

I also will be generating a new topic that lays this process/information out a bit better and will be in the OP instead of spread all across this thread.

Cryptoin, you've done some amazing work for everyone who ordered from Terrahash.  If you post a BTC address I wouldn't mind sending you a little something for your efforts.  I encourage everyone else who ordered from Terrrahash and uses his spreadsheet to do the same.

Thanks all.  You can find my LTC and BTC addresses in my sig but it may be cut off on smaller screens.  The workbook is obviously still a work in progress so I apologize if you try to visit it and it isn't working at the time l (likely because I am editing it) and at the moment the database sheet has been a huge pain in the ass to get working properly but I think I have it figured out now.  Once I get that completely corrected and all of the latest data updated I will probably start to try to revamp the workbook so everything is feeding off the user submitted database.  The eventual goal here is not only have something that I don't really have to do much to maintain but also could be used as a template for order tracking on future orders from other companies as well.  I encourage anyone to save a copy themselves and review it.  Certainly if you find any issues or improvements let me know.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Igor_Rast on June 22, 2013, 09:58:13 PM
o
my order date sould be 21-6 . could you correct for me

Thanks

Nice work by the way +1


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: redmetal on June 23, 2013, 01:28:11 AM
#537 : 1x K64   (paid)

I don't think I will be in the first 10k, but here to hoping


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 23, 2013, 01:44:31 AM
So the sheet should be completely up to date for the moment.  That basically leaves us at a for sure cut off of the first 10,000 around order around order 500 best case scenario.  It is more likely in the 490s.  The 20,000 chip cut off will likely fall in the 630s or 640s.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 23, 2013, 01:58:07 AM
Also note that if you submit your order via the form it will show up at the bottom of the database list until I have a chance to come in and click the filter again.  I may create a script that will do this automatically but it is rather low on the priority list right now since I still have to manually input all the data on the chip sheet.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Vigil on June 23, 2013, 01:14:16 PM
How do we access just the list? I've already entered my data in there. I'm #1190 - trying to see how many chips are before me.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on June 23, 2013, 03:50:40 PM
How do we access just the list? I've already entered my data in there. I'm #1190 - trying to see how many chips are before me.

The chip list is on the second worksheet (the tabs at the bottom of the page)  It is called "Order Chip Counts".  At order # 1190 you are around the 40,000 chip mark by my estimates.

The workbook can be accessed via the link below or in my signature.  There is also a link to it when you submit the form.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiyRS_8Y_814dGM0cU5KdFJTVlpWeG9LSDJKYnNmMkE&usp=sharing


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: cad_cdn on June 24, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
#827 is my only paid order. sorry, somehow #828 got on there.

delete #828 I believe. (It's Not mine anyway)



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: gidi337 on June 26, 2013, 12:50:51 PM
i am sorry if this is not the correct location as i am not sure where to put it.

i bought 3x 64 boards.

i would like to sell them on for a good price (either all together or seperately).

my order number is 449 so its in batch one.

please pm me for offers

kind regards


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: gnoll110 on June 28, 2013, 01:28:12 PM
#707
2 x k16 = 32 chips

For the allocation of the first 10K & 20K of chips, I think only the chips on K16 boards should be considered.

I think K64 development lag will be at least a month. Draft CAD/CAM printer circuit board (PCB) designs don't exist in BKKCoins github repo https://github.com/bkkcoins/klondike/tree/master/kicad yet. His still actively refining the K16 prototype atm.

My two cents worth.




Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pixl8tr on June 28, 2013, 01:39:22 PM

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.
Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: klee on June 28, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Order: #1324
TerraHash DX Large
Number of Modules: 2 (36 GHash/sec), paid for hosting


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bebfoo on June 28, 2013, 04:01:55 PM

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.
Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.


Yes, the site clearly lists the boards as different:

K-64: https://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/

Size: 20cm x 20cm
Number of chips: 64


K-16: https://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

Size: 10cm x 10cm
Number of chips: 16


Hoping there won't be a delay in the K64s.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: TheSwede75 on June 28, 2013, 04:13:28 PM

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.
Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.


Yes, the site clearly lists the boards as different:

K-64: https://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/

Size: 20cm x 20cm
Number of chips: 64


K-16: https://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

Size: 10cm x 10cm
Number of chips: 16


Hoping there won't be a delay in the K64s.


K-64 is simply 4x K-16 period. They even have connectors for this very purpose fitted onto the K-16 reference design.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bebfoo on June 28, 2013, 04:56:03 PM

I was under the impression that a K64 "Board" was just 4 x 16s linked together.
Although 4 X 16 = 64  , the plan as I understand it is there also will be a single 64 board designed.  Hence the two different types of cases being offered by TH.


Yes, the site clearly lists the boards as different:

K-64: https://terrahash.com/product/18-ghsec-modular-board/

Size: 20cm x 20cm
Number of chips: 64


K-16: https://terrahash.com/product/4-5-ghsec-module/

Size: 10cm x 10cm
Number of chips: 16


Hoping there won't be a delay in the K64s.


K-64 is simply 4x K-16 period. They even have connectors for this very purpose fitted onto the K-16 reference design.

I was under the impression K64 was one single board, not 4 K16's linked.  Perhaps just my mistake. And yes I understand that 4 10cm boards would be 20x20cm if placed edge-to-edge. :)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: pixl8tr on June 28, 2013, 05:06:38 PM
K-64 is simply 4x K-16 period. They even have connectors for this very purpose fitted onto the K-16 reference design.

Yes, you can "hook" the K-16 boards together in an array.  However, The developer BKKCoins himself has said that he will start work on the K64 board as soon as the K-16 is complete.    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.0



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: gnoll110 on June 28, 2013, 08:42:55 PM
K-64 is simply 4x K-16 period. They even have connectors for this very purpose fitted onto the K-16 reference design.

Yes, you can "hook" the K-16 boards together in an array.  However, The developer BKKCoins himself has said that he will start work on the K64 board as soon as the K-16 is complete.    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190731.0


Yep, time will tell. It's my understanding that the K64 is on one card, containing the logic of 4 K16 plus overheads. Just wondered how
just-in-time Terrahash will be?

I'ld ship all chips I had as K16! Not hold back any, until the shipment of chip immediately before I thought the K64 was ready.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: ezisdog on July 01, 2013, 02:10:18 PM
#1071
TerraHash DX Mini
4 Modules (18 GHash/sec)
Paid with Paypal.
Status: Processing

Does anyone knows if i'm on batch 1,2...?

Thank you, guys!



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jelin1984 on July 01, 2013, 02:13:05 PM
When you make the payment is unfreezed the PayPal now?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: ezisdog on July 01, 2013, 02:15:23 PM
unfreezed?

The operation was completed.
Money gone to TH.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: jelin1984 on July 01, 2013, 02:17:44 PM
I mean that terrahash PayPal had problems and now maybe is ok ?


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: ezisdog on July 01, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
I sent an e-mail yesterday and i'm still wating for an answer.

Made a call about an hour ago but went to the answering machine... :-(



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: ezisdog on July 01, 2013, 02:24:40 PM
I mean that terrahash PayPal had problems and now maybe is ok ?

When my payment was completed TH still had problems with PayPal...


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: ezisdog on July 01, 2013, 02:41:03 PM
Oops... GMT here!

thanks!



Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: bebfoo on July 01, 2013, 10:25:54 PM
Any word from TH?  I called and left VM, no call back. Have they gone dark? :(


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on July 02, 2013, 12:37:07 AM
#1071
TerraHash DX Mini
4 Modules (18 GHash/sec)
Paid with Paypal.
Status: Processing

Does anyone knows if i'm on batch 1,2...?

Thank you, guys!



What date did you place the order 6/18 or 6/19?

Either way you will be in the recently ordered batch (a.k.a. batch 2)

Anyone above 700 can pretty much be guaranteed of that.  600 to 700 is questionable.  600 and below is likely to make it in the first batch.


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Shimple on July 02, 2013, 01:22:39 AM
I ordered 3x K64 Boards. Looking to sell them as well. PM me if interested with your offers (either all or separate)

Order ID: #1230


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: Cryptoin on July 02, 2013, 03:49:00 AM
To help avoid further confusion for those of you looking to submit or update your order information to the database/google spreadsheet I have generated a thread specifically for the spreadsheet.  You can find it here:

TERRAHASH ORDER DATABASE (Find out when you will get your order) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248143.0)


Title: Re: TerraHash Order Queue and info
Post by: btceic on July 09, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
Regarding refunds,

https://i.imgur.com/Ku5IIO1.png