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I trust BCB.  I don't trust you.

Please provide detailed logs of the communication you've had with him.

-EP

This is very entertaining.  Don't you guys love it when people get butthurt?  :D
/me gets the popcorn

Also, on a serious note: What EPiSKiNG said.

Sooo... I'm seeing that BCB mentioned the name Sean, and someone got butthurt over it?  Looks like a buncha malarkey to me.

-EP

I'm pretty damn sure "buyer" is a shill.  Who the hell panics (and says "oh my god" twice) because someone knows your first name?

BCB is legit.

I'm inclined to agree with you, based on my interactions with the two of them.

-EP

Man I love seeing accounts talking to themselves.  :D

I can personally vouch that Viceroy  is a multi account libel tossing dumbass.  ;)

I have confirmed that Viceroy === buyer.

Sean chose to reveal that here.

+100000000000

I've said it since day 1! He makes these bs threads then uses his shills to make his accusations look like they have backing. Why isn't he banned yet?

Buyer=seller=Viceroy.  Not even a question. :D

theymos don't ban no more, unless people get real disruptive. Only chance you get someone banned is by goading them into melting down all over the forum.

I'm linking my thread I made on this a WHILE ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=235193.msg2570640#msg2570640

+more lulz: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174864.msg2594748#msg2594748

Viceroy is all over the place though. On multiple accounts as well.

Can you provide proof here, by chance?

Thanks!
-EP

Yeah, but he's not spewing verbal diarrhoe from his fingers all over yet. Gotta make him more angry.

I can provide irrefutable evidence that buyer is a sock (a warning posted in his self-moderated thread by JohnK), the rest is great circumstantial.

Sounds like all you need to do is stop communicating with BCB and everyone will be happy.
/me closes thread. :)

-EP

UR2dum4wrdz :D

BCB PLEASE POST IT

Hey, Viceroy/buyer:  Could you turn on your "Online" indicator so we know you're smart enough to tor/proxy?  Would be hillarious :D  Lulzoliciousness!

But you never were anonymous, Chad.

Oh my, this is fucking hilarious.

But, because it's funny...

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lols30rUm71qeiwtao1_500.gif

The unspoilt innocence of our little ones.  Precious.

Oh? So why is your personal pet project sellbitcoinforcash running on this "friends" name? Is it a friend like the Chinese relic hunter über hacker multibillionaire? Only visible in the mirror? Do you hold up a playing card to your face and whisper "per...so..NA" before changing, well, personas?

I have Viceroy/buyer's full docs.  The IP and fingerprint of his iPad is tied to both accounts.  I asked him to stop trolling my thread and to stop pming me.  

I will use his personal information in the event he is a scammer.

I may also notify the state of Colorado that he is operating  an unlicensed Money Transmission business.

Viceroy, please just drop it and don't troll BCB's threads. Don't start no shit, won't be no shit. There shouldn't be any friction between OGs.

Gents, can you just please make up or at least have a truce to mutually not troll/harass/whatever each other? I'm sure you guys have better/more profitable stuff to do apart from this.

Thanks!  :)

I still don't understand how BCB is a blackmailer.

hint: he isn't

John

I politely and privately asked Sean to stop trolling my threads.  He chose to post here.

Sean

You may want to research tor or get yourself a cheap vpn because both of your alts (Viceroy and buyer) are coming from the same iPad in Colorado.

You also may want to brush up on how the interwebz work.

BUMP

Colorado.  Got it. Thanks. More plez.

Got it and agreed.

I'm sure that you gentlemen can come to an agreement chivalrously and without further conflict, which only results in headaches and potential loss in earnings.

Oldsport.

If Sean doesn't lock this thread, change the Subject and/or get the admins to move this thread to the trashcan you can have it ALL.

This idiot sent me photos of his kids!!??

wow, im trying to think of the right word to describe you but the only thing that comes to mind is dildo. you sir are a dildo. dont bother responding because im ignoring you after i post this.

And I'd be glad to share his info with

Death and Taxes and
TradeFortress

and anyone else who may find it of interest.

Since Anon136 is not reading this I'll just report here for everyone else.

It was shortly after the Viceroy/buyer started seriously trolling DeathandTaxes/TangibleCryptology's thread that TangibleCryptology received a cease and desist order from the State of Virginia due to a complain letter.

I'm just saying...

I'm dancing. Lord someone call social services for those poor children. Viceroy is UNSTABLE. I thought he was 14-17.

Dildo would imply he could come within 10 miles of a vagina. No, I believe the words you are looking for is "prison dick". 100% Assy Bullshit.

 ?

http://zgallery.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/duel-001.jpg



I wouldn't be surprised. I have seen this statist threatening people with reporting them for committing for victimless crimes at least a couple of times.


Wasn't he 44?

Viceroy you're an idiot! This is mentally aggravating.

@Malevolent. I don't know he acts like a hormonal child.

He will be 45 in July.

I'm 14 and I'm more mature than this.

But, in all seriousness, BCB is legit.  Also, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail.  The only thing BCB would gain by not turning you in is not being harassed by you, so...

Please post the rest.

That will be up to Sean.

You took down tangible cryptography you fucking dimwit. POST IT, POST IT, POST IT!

UR 45, and offer ur ID to an internet stranger as u try to launder ur monyz?  And u r a MTB?  ???

Only since about a week ago. Still learning and stuff.

Heh.  Anyways, BCB hasn't released shit other than his age and first name, if I'm understanding this correctly.  That's practically public information on these forums.

He should release more... I pray Viceroy continues to be his stupid self and provokes BCB.

For the Record: I will not be releasing the photos of his kids.

Except maybe to Colorado Child Protective Services.

I want to see the female silly enough to mate with him!

Look Sean, lock it up and it all goes away.

This thread is so retarded. Buyer and Viceroy are the same person. Reporting someone for 'money laundering' is so ridiculous childish. It amazes me how you are able to 'operate' a business with such an immature attitude. Grow up.

I know, right? ::) Every post just makes you look like more of a shill, you realize, Vicerory/buyer.

An admin offered to mediate at my request and this is Sean's response:


For the record, I am not threatening any physical harm or violence.  I am just offering to reveal the Identity of buyer/Viceroy to the community if he does not stop his unscrupulous tactics.  Any identity documents I have were giving to me freely by Sean which I will also gladly show by posting the pms.

Laffo, I know that one. Let me see if I can find the original.

EDIT:

There we go.


Love it. Always brings a smile to the face.

Also: This -> http://youtu.be/NsZMbs5PC64

BCB, you dun goofed. You're going to get backtraced, and the consequences will never be the same.

/me tries to think of a good response, then goes back and reads the original posts

...oh God, I feel like an idiot.

LMAO. Anyone who is truly former military in a role that experiences combat would never say that. I was with 3/9 active duty in the marines for 6 years as a mortarman. I've met more badasses than you could count, and none spoke this way. It's always the pencil pushers or supply bums that talk about how tough they are.

BCB, you are free to borrow any of my munitions to help protect your life against this sociopath.

LOL Theres nothing wrong with viceroy OR BCB.
You've must have done something wrong mister to make them angry.

It was a joke. Those were catch phrases from the Jessie Slaughter fiasco (Google it).

Here's a link, if you're lazy: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Jessi_Slaughter

Welp, looks like you just put the last nail in the coffin over you being two different people.  Now you're talking in third person about yourself.

It was third person before he edited his post, by the way.

Pssst!  Send ur monyz & i dont tell wat u do :o >>>>>>  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174864.msg2594811#msg2594811

I've asked you to stop trolling me and my threads.  So far you threatened to kill me and to rip my face off.  I have no intention of coming to Colorado Springs.

Don't worry 'bout buyer, Viceroy -- he's acharghin' his lahzerz!   He's like god-level special forces marine animal!  Sea Cow.

Is there anyone you don't suspect of wronging you in some way?  Soon even buyer's going to start trolling you :D

It might not be against the MIGHTY </s> rules, but it's still dishonest.  And, in going with the "bring it to court" mindset, how do you think it would look in front of a judge?

There are two key things that, as an outside observer, I think you might be missing.

The first is that you've harassed BCB as much as he's blackmailed you.  If you just quietly took it to court, I think that BCB would have been 100% in the wrong for the statement that he made.  However, what you're doing now is immature and downright childish.

The other thing that you're missing is the fact that this was one statement.  You're completely obsessing over it.  The right thing to do would be to reply calmly and ask him to not say that again, with the threat of pursuing him legally.  Instead of that, however, you made a sockpuppet and had a fake conversation with him in order to press your case.  This is known as harassment.  At this point, I think you are more at fault than BCB.

What BCB said could be considered blackmail, and I think he shouldn't have said that, but I really think that you handled it completely wrong.

And, let's be honest, that "I'm in the military!" bullshit really sounds like a kid.  I think you're a lot more mature than that, despite this fiasco.

 >:( ::) :D Edit: "The regulators I report to do not take that lightly." lolacoster!!1

Just when I thought full retard couldn't get full retardeder. <3 threads like these. Please keep going!

Lrn 2 spel plox, it's retardedader.

Butt how dose I spelingz?

I don't think its blackmail when you are threatening to kill the guy @buyer

its like someone pointing a gun at someone, and then when the victim says, "put the gun down or I'll stab you *as they pull out a knife*" and then the guy with the gun tries to get the victim sued for blackmailing. Legally speaking, extortion laws are actually much more strict than you would believe. First off, there can be no provocation. If you jam someone into a corner, and their only rational decision is to attempt to threaten / extort their way out, it isn't criminal. If you provoke the reaction, ex. you mess with BCB's threads repeatedly, he asks you to stop, you don't, and then he tells you to stop or else, its not extortion, its an ultimatum. Theres a bunch of odd little rules like that, I would advise looking into it yourself, and Viceroy/Buyer, I would say if you decided to take actions legally, as you keep threatening, I believe BCB would have a fairly solid counter-suit.

I'm not a lawyer or anything, but I've done some independent study about some law topics (mostly to impress a girl's father who was a lawyer) and I found a neat article about what is and isn't blackmail. I'll see if I can find it. Anyway, regardless of all of this, Viceroy, please stop with the frivolous threads. I know I know, if they annoy me, I don't have to read them, but your topics are like a car wreck involving a school bus and an oil transportation truck, you just can't look away.

*sits back, watches, and cringes*

edit* forgot to mention, this is U.S law, if the two of your are off somewhere else, disregard my input

I find it of interest to me.

I promised Viceroy BTC 100 if he proves ''states'' and / or ''citizens'' exist. He said he would prove it with his ID or a passport. So far he did not submit any evidence to me. So I did not pay him. Viceroy accused me of being a scammer here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241369.0;all

Maybe you could be generous and send me a copy of his ID / passport, and then I will pay him BTC 100, if in fact his ID proves his claim.


Geeeee, he behaves like a child.

Funny shit. Only in murica!

  Unbelievable i think you should use pgp or bitmessage to air your frustration on each other, this is not the playground but never the less keep going its better than the shit on t.v !!!!

Hah!  Thanks for the (semi)expert input.  I was thinking about that, but I didn't have the time to look it up (had to go for a few hours).

>your topics are like a car wreck involving a school bus and an oil transportation truck
LOL

Laffo, you mean hopping on fincen.gov, filling out form 107 (which says "hey dudes and dudettes, I'm sending money for other people and this is where I claim to live"), sending it out aaaaaaaaaaaand done. Yup, heavy regulation going on there.

Sean you do realize you just posted as the wrong alt. 

Fucking really, man.  We've already figured out that Buyer is your sock puppet.  Can you *please* stop referring to him as a separate goddamn person?  This is why everyone finds you annoying.

What you said is everything buy a lie.  If you read what Salty said, what he did isn't EVEN BLACKMAIL, regardless of *when* you threatened to kill him.  You have been harassing him (i.e.: putting him into an awkward situation), and he threatened to take action if you didn't stop harassing him.  

In addition to this, you're *still* threatening him.

Also: To clarify, BCB never threatened to release ANY pictures.  In fact, he completely said he wouldn't.  He was just threatening to call DCF.


Huh, it's really that easy?  I'm going to try doing that.

Also, this is what a 7 year old would say.

Also, @ Viceroy and Buyer, I know I made a statement against you a few minutes ago so I'm sure you are reluctant to read anything else I have to say, but something actually just came to mind that I figured I'd bring up for you two to ponder. Do you really think threatening to get the Gov involved in shutting down a BTC business will really win you favor in a public Bitcointalk thread on a forum filled with anarchists and libertarians? Thats like bragging about being a snitch in prison, the only difference being, in prison after someone shanks you, they are going to get caught. Bitcoin people are scary, they have anonymity on their side, check out the hidden wiki if you haven't already and seriously think about reprocussions that could occur because of this thread, be it physical, or just people messing with you. Also, I'm personally not threatening you, because it does sort of sound like that as I reread this, but I did want to bring it to your attention. Even if no one got pissed off enough to at least mess with you, you still wont be winning anyone's favor publicly threatening to report a fairly respected bitcoin business to the authorities, ficen, or whatever.

Kind of reminds me about that story about the guy in a taxi in Russia, and overheard the taxi driver threatening to kill Pirate40 on the phone.

Cite where he said he would do that, please.

This thread doesn't reflect well on American's in general - just sayin

Also probably some extortion, lewd and lascivious conduct against a minor, and carrying ice cream in his back pocket in Kentucky (or Alabama, or whatever state actually has that law) going on. To prison with him!!11!1

I'm not even going to bother responding to this thread anymore, because you clearly aren't reading my posts.

Although, do keep on dragging it along!  It's really entertaining!

Evidently, you haven't.  From what I've seen, you've been trolling/harassing BCB a lot, especially with your sockpuppets (before AND after this has happened).  I recommended you re-read the post I quoted.

I'm going to ignore the insult about my age, but I'm wondering who "they" are (edit for grammar) and what they're throwing at me... Everything I've said has been my own opinion, not "theirs".

Meh, you might have not meant it as an insult.

If you are a money launderer Viceroy, then it's not an unjustified threat now is it?

Same thing happened to CoinLenders except we do not run an illegal operation, and received a polite email.

Requesting Viceroy==buyer's info.

Put the fact that I'm a mod aside, I'm only a mod on the Alt Currencies section, I have no pull here, so I'm speaking strictly as a peer

I won't get into a fight with you, because it would be drawn out and futile, not to mention, it wouldn't look the best on my part, arguing with a guy that people have already drawn their own opinions on. What bothers me, and what I believe is drawing me back into this thread is the complete lack of rationality. My first post was to state my opinion, second was to look out for your interest, because you and buyer are now pissing a lot of people off (I will assume you are two different people for the sake of not knowing for a fact) and now, because you are looking for a fight. Ok, you opened the thread saying BCB was blackmailing you. Alright, you post your proof, people have their own opinions. Whatever. BCB then publicly says, stop with this nonsense, and it will be over if you close the thread. All you have to do is stop posting in his threads, this doesn't need to escalate, but you refuse even though it is an entirely rational compromise. In the pms you posted, in BCB's initial "blackmail" he says stop trolling my threads, stop pming me OR I WILL.... That leaves me with the impression that you provoked him to "threaten you." So in conclusion, you are a confrontational person and are just looking for a fight for the sake of looking for a fight. You are playing the victim here, when in fact, you did provoke him (why else would he lead his "threat" with stop trolling my threads and stop pming me, if you had not done so) and if you were not a confrontational person, you would have ended the thread pages ago when BCB explicitly stated,
 
The last and final hint is this


You have changed the point of the thread from, BCB is a bad guy who is extorting me, to I'm the protector of the innocent, and I am righteous because I'm looking out for others. If BCB had scammed you, you would have brought that up first and foremost. What you are doing now is trying to convince yourself that you are not just trying to pick a fight, you are protecting others from this bad bad man who is "blackmailing" you, because you are annoying him. When you say, "It involved blackmail.  That may mean nothing to you but where I live that is some serious shit." If it was really that serious to you or if you were worried in the least bit, you would have worked out a deal with BCB to end the entire situation, rather than further provoking him to post what ever info he has.

And just for a final note in a more calm tone, I completely assure you I'm not ganging up on you because you are you. I'm posting because this single thread is irritating me, I honestly have no different impression of you personally because you made one stupid thread, I just hope you will read through the entire thing once again, and take BCB up on his offer to settle your differences, even if that just means avoiding each other.

edit* Sorry I forgot to mention, I too am a confrontational person, so the behavior is incredibly obvious to me, what you are doing is something that I would do if I was pissed off, and didn't take a minute to stop typing and preview my posts in order to neutralize them a bit

I'm basing it on two facts;
a) BCB is right and
b) Viceroy==buyer


You might want to look up 'libel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation)' also.

Edit: Assisted suicide is legal in my state - holla if you need some help!

LOL. Quoting.

Dude... What the fuck is wrong with you?  Seriously... I think you need to see a therapist or something.

LOL.

Also, second to the libel link.

I think this Viceroy guy is an extreme case of masochism. Nobody likes him, yet he keeps on posting. The more of his wisdom he posts the more people dislike him. That's where he derives his pleasures.

He is sick and should look for a mental health help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defeating_personality_disorder

He is a self-hating Bitcoiner  :D

BCB is trustworthy and honest.

Nope, he's trustworthy and honest.

You *may* be a criminal drug dealer who *may* run the Silk road.

 ::)

Actually, Shrugged isn't a sockpuppet.  Unlike *some* people, he doesn't resort to that immaturity.  See http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=shrugged.

I can't believe I'm seeing this.

Viceroy - BCB is not a scammer, nor a blackmailer.  I've had dealings with him in the past and he's always been good to me and my alts.  I doubt when it comes down to it anyone cares if you have half the board as your alts.

BCB - Viceroy is acting like an idiot here, but so are you.  Doesn't matter who or what, but if you post private information such as a his personal information it's going to cost you cred.  That cred will cost you legit business.  I sure as hell wouldn't want my passport shown to the entire world.

I wouldn't call either of you my close personal friends.  I'll admit I've had more dealings with Viceroy than I have with BCB, but both are good honest business folk.
Not sure what's gone on to cause you guys to come out like this, but you're bickering like an old married couple.

Viceroy - It's irrelevant to everyone here if BCB is running an illegal bank.  Unless you have suffered some sort of loss at his hands ala pirateat40, you have no standing.  It's also not the topic of this thread.

Let's put this to rest.  Can you guys shake hands and walk away from this before it actually does bring the wrong kinds of attention here?  All of us have dirty laundry somewhere, none of us want it aired and frankly none of us want to see yours.

Everyone take a break.  Let cooler heads prevail and shut this thread before it turns into more of a pissing match and dick measuring competition than it already is.

As my Columbian friend once told me.  "It doesn't matter who you were, or who you think you are now.  What matters is that we are all legitimate businessmen now."