Title: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 25, 2013, 09:55:41 PM So, we got scammed and lost ~300 BTC. what now?
First, most important thing: reference - reference thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252180.0 - reference user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79855 Log: [08 July 2013] user opens group buy and starts collecting funds [19 July 2013] group buy closed, user says he will drive to yxt personally on 23.07 [2013-07-23 06:46:16] payment wallet gets cleared and funds going washed through a mixer [23 July 2013, 8:08] he tells having his wallet not synced and moving his drive to next day [23 July 2013, 11:01] last post, no communication after that point, not even a "heading out now" [24 July 2013, 03:19:33] last seen online There are some possibilities: A: he is clean. still on the drive way or pausing in a motel without internet. and has a fucking reason pushing all our 300 btc through a mixer B: was a legit member before and decided to do this scam shortly C: scam was planned long before and so are all old posts fake and just part of a story (=we are screwed) Title: Tasks Post by: Xer0 on July 25, 2013, 09:56:19 PM ToDo:
- REPORT TO YOUR LOCAL POLICE - Moderators: please provide all logged IPs and avaiable personal information of user "vdragon" - fully archive the group buy thread, vdragon's all posts and you pm conversations with him we could need copies from multiple users to be on the forensically safe side - he joined some altcoin pools, tested some stuff. we need his ips from the operators - he posted images of "his" rigs in the rig-image-section, especially interesting is this shot: https://i.imgur.com/Kq6kuEq.jpg there is a logo and text on the window - we need to find out what and where! (or if the images are just stolen) - examine every single post he made and look for useful information, expecially personal information Title: Tasks done Post by: Xer0 on July 25, 2013, 09:57:33 PM so far:
- archived gb thread and all his posts as .maff files, could not do screenshots though - archived some images he posted in the post-your-mining-rig thread - nomnomnom contacted possible real-life contact on hungarian bitcoin meetup - albon found out the name asociated to a paypal account on his email address - escrow.ms and green65 maybe found addresses related to his bitstamp account Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nottm28 on July 25, 2013, 10:11:09 PM Sorry for your loss - interested party - watching
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on July 25, 2013, 10:34:54 PM For people based in the UK there is a site called actionfraud where you can report online fraud. I'm not sure btc scams are recognised as a form of electronic fraud but we can give it a go.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 25, 2013, 10:40:34 PM Damn, I knew something is wrong. Try to contact peoples who paid him cash and bank transfer.
You can get more details easily. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on July 25, 2013, 10:44:02 PM Damn, I knew something is wrong. Try to contact peoples who paid him cash and bank transfer. We did but it is a possibility that all these (four) people are the scammer himself pretending to be a customer. We'll see.You can get more details easily. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 25, 2013, 10:45:01 PM Try to contact peoples who paid him cash and bank transfer. You can get more details easily. "gapthemind" the only forum member who paid with SEPA - gived bank details, need to check thesethe other two who "paid in cash" arent linked to any forum user and could be just some random names Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on July 25, 2013, 10:53:15 PM Btw If you look at the hotmail headers, it reports as encoding iso-8859-2 which is the encoding used in some languages including Hungarian. So there might be some truth that he is indeed from Hungary. Please do have a look and verify or not my finding
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 25, 2013, 11:10:55 PM Try to contact peoples who paid him cash and bank transfer. You can get more details easily. "gapthemind" the only forum member who paid with SEPA - not answering any PMs - probably fake accountthe other two who "paid in cash" arent linked to any forum user and could be just some random names He just posted this in the original thread: As i told a guy that have sent me a PM, i was at a work doing 2nd shift and i couldnt send him info he asked and i told him i will do it when i come home. So here are his bank infos: HU87 1040 2812 8050 5553 5750 6002 name is Zoltan Nagy, bank is K&H Budapest, Hungary. Now, all of you calling me a scammer i have samething to say to you, FUCK OFF. I have a real job and a baby on the way and i have more important things in my life then this forum. Edit: Also, for reference, I contacted a Nemet Gyula on meetup: http://www.meetup.com/BitcoinBudapest/members/50888732/ He is in the Groupbuy list as having ordered 2 Units and paid cash, will pickup localy. Will let you know if I hear anything back. And the Picture linked above with the logo and the text on the window, I am pretty sure the text says "phone" in lowercase in an unusal font. Maybe some phonecompany logo? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on July 26, 2013, 03:22:20 AM i will offer a 1 bitcoin reward if i can get my 7.12 bitcoins back!
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nowywbitcoinowymswiecie on July 26, 2013, 05:43:25 AM i will offer a 1 bitcoin reward if i can get my 7.12 bitcoins back! I will do the same - 1.5 BTC for my 8.9 BCT Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Moogle on July 26, 2013, 07:06:14 AM For people based in the UK there is a site called actionfraud where you can report online fraud. I'm not sure btc scams are recognised as a form of electronic fraud but we can give it a go. Didn't know about this site. Cheers will give it a bashTitle: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: bobko on July 26, 2013, 07:11:34 AM i checked the IBAN and my bank accept it:
IBAN: HU87104028128050555357506002 SWIFT: OKHBHUHB Bank name: K ES H BANK ZRT. 126 SZEGED, 5., KLAUZAL TER, SZEGED When is here somebody from Hungary, please go to pollice and give notice of fraud. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Bicknellski on July 26, 2013, 07:34:50 AM Hope you get your coins back everyone and this guys is brought to justice!
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: monsters4r on July 26, 2013, 07:49:00 AM I'm "walking" through SZEGED with street view finding for that mysterious logo....
>:( Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 26, 2013, 08:48:47 AM And the Picture linked above with the logo and the text on the window, I am pretty sure the text says "phone" in lowercase in an unusal font. Maybe some phonecompany logo? True https://i.imgur.com/m7Bef6m.jpg https://i.imgur.com/X95TMYV.png Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: iiaurent on July 26, 2013, 08:54:06 AM when you miror the picture you see it's written " PHONE " on the windows
looks like a phone shop Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: eneloop on July 26, 2013, 09:30:41 AM this could be the shop listed in his details.
did he sent a refund from this bank account? if not this could be anyone elses bank account and he speculated that most will pay in BTC. means: this could be a totaly stolen identity. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 09:51:14 AM I'm "walking" through SZEGED with street view finding for that mysterious logo.... >:( good idea! thanks, keep us updated i think it could be some internet cafe and the pics were shoot in a office or private room Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: monsters4r on July 26, 2013, 09:54:15 AM Ok, I've located the linked shop and the bank mentioned.
I'm searcing around this area. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nowywbitcoinowymswiecie on July 26, 2013, 10:30:40 AM The font is similar to "Angelina regular" - last letter "e" is skewed or another font used. There can be just a part of the name or slogan.
Ive created very coarse representation of logo just to get any idea how it could looks like. Nor color or shape is precise. Dont use it to google image search - wont get any results (ive checked but please feel free to try other services) http://i39.tinypic.com/2ziqxbp.jpg Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 26, 2013, 10:33:56 AM The font is similar to "Angelina regular" - last letter "e" is skewed or another font used. There can be just a part of the name or slogan. Ive created very coarse representation of logo just to get any idea how it could looks like. Nor color or shape is precise. Dont use it to google image search - wont get any results (ive checked but please feel free to try other services) http://i39.tinypic.com/2ziqxbp.jpg I tried that too and looked for phone,telecom companies but found no result :( Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 10:42:03 AM maybe he never was in Hungary?
or his mining rig pictures are just plain stolen... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: speciall on July 26, 2013, 11:55:15 AM it seems that vdragon owns or owned an avalon,
maybe we can trace back via this way? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223875.msg2356609#msg2356609 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154009.msg1635436#msg1635436 I assume the avalon owners are pretty limited and the company maybe can help tracing Or via Pool owners, they maybe record ip addresses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192907.msg2030686#msg2030686 Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 12:11:44 PM sounds like he bought it locally
should check this Hungary Bitcoin Group Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: MPOE-PR on July 26, 2013, 01:54:12 PM So, we got scammed and lost ~300 BTC. what now? First, most important thing: reference - reference thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252180.0 - reference user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79855 What happened: vdragon started a group buy for buying 1000 block erupter devices from yxt he collected funds from the participants and pretended driving to yxt for personally picking up the order the day on he seemed beeing on the way he cleared the wallet and started washing the money There are some possibilities: A: he is clean. still on the drive way or pausing in a motel without internet. and has a fucking reason pushing all our 300 btc through a mixer B: was a legit member before and decided to do this scam shortly C: scam was planned long before and so are all old posts fake and just part of a story (=we are screwed) This is why you don't deal with noobs. Next time random idiot comes up with whatever these come up with and I go "see here", you post under me saying "Yeah, what MPOE-PR said" instead of sending the random idiot your BTC. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 26, 2013, 02:10:22 PM there is a site linked in his profile,but i doubt it's his site.
https://exicom.hu/php/index.php?lang=hu http://who.is/domain-history/exicom.hu Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 26, 2013, 03:59:15 PM We can trace the shop and see if there is a second floor with the logo on it.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: MPOE-PR on July 26, 2013, 04:05:36 PM What is you definition to know if it is a random idiot? Here we have a group buy from an account with a good activity and also yxt posted that at the begin of the group buy: You have got to be kidding me. Think about it this way: it costs a few cents to replicate this "good activity". These arguments are easy but in fact it was impossible to know and finaly it is the bitcoin world, we are never sure at 100% about what we order until bitcoin has another platform than a forum to organize group buy. No. This is long discredited nonthink. You don't get to do something stupid and then get out of jail free because you didn't know better. There is another platform to organize a group buy as well as anything else. We are sure and we do know. Get with the program. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 04:26:40 PM We can trace the shop and see if there is a second floor with the logo on it. checked shop and around with streetmap, logo nowhere found we need someone who can hungary and an active forum there Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 04:29:45 PM Well I just sent him an invoice from paypal and his name comes up Stefan Darin (vccdragon@hotmail.com) He must have a certified paypal account my Paypal says "User is currently not able to receive Payments" or so (in german) - maybe phished acc Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: augustocroppo on July 26, 2013, 05:07:16 PM it seems that vdragon owns or owned an avalon, maybe we can trace back via this way? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223875.msg2356609#msg2356609 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154009.msg1635436#msg1635436 I assume the avalon owners are pretty limited and the company maybe can help tracing Or via Pool owners, they maybe record ip addresses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192907.msg2030686#msg2030686 All right, let's assume vdragon really owns a massive quantity of GPU cards to mine Bitcoins. If he really lives in Szeged, Hungary, this must be one of his IP addresses: http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/1/hungary/szeged/ Quote Szeged, Hungary The table below lists all the active Bitcoin nodes (based on run #0001) found in Szeged, Hungary as of May 12, 2013. ALL NODES (71) 1 160.114.128.7 2 160.114.149.1 3 160.114.152.251 4 178.164.136.143 5 178.164.136.175 6 178.164.177.175 7 178.164.177.179 8 178.164.177.73 9 178.164.203.70 10 178.164.229.206 11 178.164.231.177 12 178.164.231.63 13 178.164.231.9 14 188.143.107.23 15 188.143.35.31 16 188.143.41.228 17 188.36.34.177 18 188.36.37.169 19 188.36.39.55 20 188.36.41.88 21 188.36.42.216 22 188.36.46.221 23 188.6.10.210 24 188.6.13.214 25 188.6.168.14 26 188.6.168.255 27 188.6.8.123 28 194.38.110.253 29 194.38.114.82 30 195.38.124.132 31 195.38.124.246 32 31.46.72.68 33 31.46.78.37 34 46.107.243.59 35 46.107.38.151 36 46.107.39.158 37 62.165.234.45 38 84.0.37.149 39 84.0.37.227 40 84.0.37.67 41 84.236.109.58 42 84.236.11.147 43 84.236.12.167 44 84.236.14.136 45 84.236.15.71 46 84.236.9.19 47 84.3.11.35 48 84.3.173.188 49 84.3.175.63 50 84.3.2.182 51 84.3.2.41 52 84.3.236.227 53 84.3.238.195 54 84.3.5.213 55 84.3.9.134 56 85.238.88.53 57 85.238.89.160 58 87.97.11.2 59 91.82.137.152 60 91.83.13.11 61 91.83.13.92 62 91.83.15.223 63 91.83.18.252 64 91.83.3.122 65 92.249.193.173 66 94.21.217.165 67 94.21.217.74 68 94.21.217.75 69 94.21.254.159 70 94.21.254.223 71 94.21.254.242 http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/74/hungary/szeged/ Quote Szeged, Hungary The table below lists all the active Bitcoin nodes (based on run #0074) found in Szeged, Hungary as of Jul 26, 2013. ALL NODES (14) 1 178.164.136.159 2 194.38.115.208 3 91.83.9.227 4 188.36.41.88 5 62.201.102.42 6 160.114.36.196 7 84.0.36.240 8 84.3.5.213 9 91.83.15.177 10 178.164.177.142 11 178.164.222.212 12 91.83.28.139 13 160.114.49.225 14 94.21.252.165 Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: John (John K.) on July 26, 2013, 05:12:03 PM PS: Only theymos can access his IP right now, although I doubt that he wasn't using TOR/VPN if he were intending to scam all the way here. Have anyone shipped anything to him previously?
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: augustocroppo on July 26, 2013, 05:14:15 PM there is a site linked in his profile,but i doubt it's his site. https://exicom.hu/php/index.php?lang=hu http://who.is/domain-history/exicom.hu Just in case... http://centralops.net/co/DomainDossier.aspx?addr=exicom.hu&dom_dns=1&dom_whois=1&net_whois=1 Quote inetnum: 178.238.210.0 - 178.238.210.255 netname: MAXER-NET descr: MAXER Hosting Kft. descr: HU 9024 Gyor Repce u. 24. country: HU admin-c: ZV41-RIPE tech-c: ZV41-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: DENINET-MNT changed: ripe@deninet.hu 20110328 source: RIPE person: Zoltan Virag address: H-1132 Budapest, Victor Hugo u. 18-22. address: HU phone: +3612960075 fax-no: +3612960076 nic-hdl: ZV41-RIPE notify: ripe@deninet.hu e-mail: ripe@deninet.hu mnt-by: DENINET-MNT remarks: --------------------------------------------- remarks: Please send all abuse and spam complaints to: remarks: abuse@deninet.hu remarks: --------------------------------------------- changed: ripe@deninet.hu 20071018 source: RIPE http://www.domain.hu/domain/English/domainsearch/whois.html?domain=exicom.hu&ekes=exicom.hu&crypt=ew60p53wm6h5hltdol99oj6f2gwhwmiw&printable=&code=82hqnw7 Quote domain: exicom.hu registrant: Exicom Rendszerház Kft. registrant: Exicom Rendszerház Kft. address: Tisza Lajos Krt. 47 address: 6722 Szeged address: HU phone: +36703895328 fax-no: hun-id: 1002879674 admin-c: 2003534900 tech-c: 2003534901 zone-c: 2003534902 name server: ns1.maxer.hu name server: ns2.maxer.hu registered: 2005-05-03 12:35:33 changed: 2011-12-27 11:19:54 registrar: 1000236692 admin-c: MAXER Hosting Kft address: Repce u. 24. address: 9024 Gyor address: HU phone: +3612579913 fax-no: - hun-id: 2003534900 tech-c: MAXER Hosting Kft address: Repce u. 24. address: 9024 Gyor address: HU phone: +3612579913 fax-no: - e-mail: support@maxer.hu hun-id: 2003534901 zone-c: Nyers Peter address: Repce u. 24. address: 9024 Gyor address: HU phone: +3612579913 fax-no: - hun-id: 2003534902 registrar: Deninet Ltd. registrar: Deninet Kft. (Registrar) address: Bercsényi u. 79/b. address: 1188 Budapest address: HU phone: +36-1-2960075 fax-no: +36-1-2960076 hun-id: 1000236692 Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: augustocroppo on July 26, 2013, 05:17:04 PM Well I just sent him an invoice from paypal and his name comes up Stefan Darin (vccdragon@hotmail.com) He must have a certified paypal account I sent an invoice as well but no name came up. How exactly did you obtained this information? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: albon on July 26, 2013, 05:21:49 PM Well I just sent him an invoice from paypal and his name comes up Stefan Darin (vccdragon@hotmail.com) He must have a certified paypal account I sent an invoice as well but no name came up. How exactly did you obtained this information? When I sent him the invoice it came up as the person I was sending it to on paypal 26 Jul 2013 Invoice To Stefan Darin Pending Details Invoice To Stefan Darin Choose Remind sent it to his email address on his profile page Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: augustocroppo on July 26, 2013, 05:26:55 PM When I sent him the invoice it came up as the person I was sending it to on paypal 26 Jul 2013 Invoice To Stefan Darin Pending Details Invoice To Stefan Darin Choose Remind sent it to his email address on his profile page True, I just verified my Paypal account and now the name is show over the email address! https://i.imgur.com/5Xw6IS0.png Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 26, 2013, 05:28:42 PM Is there anyone from bitstamp here? if yes.. he wrote about bitstamp on many post,so i think you can ask them to match his details (email address, bank info etc) with their customers.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: augustocroppo on July 26, 2013, 05:45:10 PM Is there anyone from bitstamp here? if yes.. he wrote about bitstamp on many post,so i think you can ask them to match his details (email address, bank info etc) with their customers. Oh yeah, I just came across this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145506.msg2431654#msg2431654 rP7vYMsX3TTMS1FQJNKhyefeHUJL1kuCph https://wisepass.com/tx/06C0C0AA42A610FBA30BE12AFB8B21326745F91DF9A3A15D784A420C35BEBB07 Quote Transaction 06C0C0AA42A610FBA30BE12AFB8B21326745F91DF9A3A15D784A420C35BEBB07 Ledger 1007452 Type Trusting Time 2013-06-10 19:35:40 UTC By rP7vYMsX3TTMS1FQJNKhyefeHUJL1kuCph Trust rvYAfWj5gh67oV6fW32ZzP3Aw4Eubs59B for USD 10000 https://wisepass.com/ripple/rvYAfWj5gh67oV6fW32ZzP3Aw4Eubs59B Quote Address rvYAfWj5gh67oV6fW32ZzP3Aw4Eubs59B Type Gateway Name BitStamp Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 26, 2013, 05:54:02 PM https://wisepass.com/tx/1D0673A313A575C41BF61F7C28446341DD950A98743CB5EAC6735FE3308C45C2
So yeah he did withdrawal using bitstamp. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 06:01:32 PM Is there a possibility to trace his laundry attempts by some clever analysis?
I randomly clicked through the flow and found this fresh and heavy loaded: https://blockchain.info/de/address/1LFMjVQgW2dCqmDGc1hJzuZeMNvpgKAGdu Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 26, 2013, 06:08:44 PM Is there a possibility to trace his laundry attempts by some clever analysis? I randomly clicked through the flow and found this fresh and heavy loaded: https://blockchain.info/de/address/1LFMjVQgW2dCqmDGc1hJzuZeMNvpgKAGdu His sent bitcoins are relayed by blockchain.info. https://blockchain.info/tx/5030c77e169e72ad1dcdce1fbb82b95b1312946b0af970aa13710fd4d08068af Relayed by IP Blockchain.info Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: augustocroppo on July 26, 2013, 06:12:24 PM Is there a possibility to trace his laundry attempts by some clever analysis? I randomly clicked through the flow and found this fresh and heavy loaded: https://blockchain.info/de/address/1LFMjVQgW2dCqmDGc1hJzuZeMNvpgKAGdu Yes, it is of course. However it is very exhaustive and only with the cooperation of the Bitcoin services used by vdragon that would result anything meaningful. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 26, 2013, 06:17:26 PM I have been googling and contacting some of the owners of the outputs in the blockchain and they confirm that the transactions relate to bitcoins they bought on bitstamp. Getting the info from bitstamp should not be too much of an issue as they are a UK registered company therefore they have to follow the proceeds of crime act and money laundering regulations.
Does anyone from the group buy live in London and would be happy to contact the Mets E-Crime unit? Can someone contact bitstamp by every means they can ASAP and get them to freeze his account as he may not have withdrawn the funds yet. This is the address we need to be looking at: https://blockchain.info/address/1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL This address is his bitstamp address https://blockchain.info/address/1meLbV7TMMSpWrW9Nw6QUAbf9XJRztXL8 all the outputs are our coins being sold (i contacted the outputs owners). Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nottm28 on July 26, 2013, 06:32:55 PM I have been googling and contacting some of the owners of the outputs in the blockchain and they confirm that the transactions relate to bitcoins they bought on bitstamp. Getting the info from bitstamp should not be too much of an issue as they are a UK registered company therefore they have to follow the proceeds of crime act and money laundering regulations. Does anyone from the group buy live in London and would be happy to contact the Mets E-Crime unit? Can someone contact bitstamp by every means they can ASAP and get them to freeze his account as he may not have withdrawn the funds yet. This is the address we need to be looking at: https://blockchain.info/address/1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL This address is his bitstamp address https://blockchain.info/address/1meLbV7TMMSpWrW9Nw6QUAbf9XJRztXL8 all the outputs are our coins being sold (i contacted the outputs owners). green, you should contact them direct yourself asap - https://online.met.police.uk/ Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 26, 2013, 06:40:02 PM I have been googling and contacting some of the owners of the outputs in the blockchain and they confirm that the transactions relate to bitcoins they bought on bitstamp. Getting the info from bitstamp should not be too much of an issue as they are a UK registered company therefore they have to follow the proceeds of crime act and money laundering regulations. Does anyone from the group buy live in London and would be happy to contact the Mets E-Crime unit? Can someone contact bitstamp by every means they can ASAP and get them to freeze his account as he may not have withdrawn the funds yet. This is the address we need to be looking at: https://blockchain.info/address/1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL This address is his bitstamp address https://blockchain.info/address/1meLbV7TMMSpWrW9Nw6QUAbf9XJRztXL8 all the outputs are our coins being sold (i contacted the outputs owners). green, you should contact them direct yourself asap - https://online.met.police.uk/ Thats pointless I suspect they will just give me a crime reference number and that will be the last I hear about it. I will phone tomorow. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 26, 2013, 06:45:46 PM Hello
Can someone contact bitstamp by every means they can ASAP and get them to freeze his account as he may not have withdrawn the funds yet. This is the address we need to be looking at: https://blockchain.info/address/1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL This address is his bitstamp address https://blockchain.info/address/1meLbV7TMMSpWrW9Nw6QUAbf9XJRztXL8 all the outputs are our coins being sold (i contacted the outputs owners). I sent bitstamp an email with the ripple information and with the address you posted! Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: astutiumRob on July 26, 2013, 06:47:04 PM If he really lives in Szeged, Hungary, this must be one of his IP addresses: take everything you see on that site with a pinch-of-salt as the data is1 - old/only at a specific ate, and more importantly 2 - wrong Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: fragger on July 26, 2013, 07:19:37 PM I have been googling and contacting some of the owners of the outputs in the blockchain and they confirm that the transactions relate to bitcoins they bought on bitstamp. Getting the info from bitstamp should not be too much of an issue as they are a UK registered company therefore they have to follow the proceeds of crime act and money laundering regulations. Does anyone from the group buy live in London and would be happy to contact the Mets E-Crime unit? Can someone contact bitstamp by every means they can ASAP and get them to freeze his account as he may not have withdrawn the funds yet. This is the address we need to be looking at: https://blockchain.info/address/1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL This address is his bitstamp address https://blockchain.info/address/1meLbV7TMMSpWrW9Nw6QUAbf9XJRztXL8 all the outputs are our coins being sold (i contacted the outputs owners). green, you should contact them direct yourself asap - https://online.met.police.uk/ I'm part of the group buy and based in London. Let me know if I can help after you've contacted them eg if they need a London based address to register the complaint with. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on July 26, 2013, 07:23:20 PM Hello i feel like an annoying side kick to a detective you guys are smart!!! when we find him can we higher some one to rough him up a little? i will pay 1 bitcoin to have him roughed up a littleCan someone contact bitstamp by every means they can ASAP and get them to freeze his account as he may not have withdrawn the funds yet. This is the address we need to be looking at: https://blockchain.info/address/1CSPFR5CrkcxHmNG9yra3rL2BW6BHttJHL This address is his bitstamp address https://blockchain.info/address/1meLbV7TMMSpWrW9Nw6QUAbf9XJRztXL8 all the outputs are our coins being sold (i contacted the outputs owners). I sent bitstamp an email with the ripple information and with the address you posted! Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 26, 2013, 07:34:20 PM yeah we could all donate 10% of our lost funds to hire a headhunter 8)
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 26, 2013, 08:24:10 PM https://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?keywords=Zoltan%20Nagy&orig=FCTD&pageKey=voltron_federated_search_internal_jsp&rsid=1356893681374869504556&openFacets=N,G,CC&pt=people&f_G=hu%3A0 https://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?keywords=stefan+darin&orig=GLHD&pageKey=voltron_people_search_internal_jsp Can you post screen shots for those without a linkedin account? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: iiaurent on July 26, 2013, 09:11:23 PM Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: afonso on July 26, 2013, 09:36:51 PM I believe vdragon is watching this thread and enjoying the show.
1) vdragon's profile point to a shop. 2) gapthemind claims vadron's bank account points to "Zoltan Nagy". Maybe the IBAN is correct but not the name. My guess is that gapthemind is working with vdragon or is vdragon itself and IBAN points to random account. It's the only user who payed with SEPA. Lost ~1800€ but has better things to do than check this forum. 3) vdragon's paypal account points to "Stefan Darin". It's probably fake too but since vdragon did not used paypal for this scam, it's likely the most reliable guess (unless we are dealing with professional scammer). Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 27, 2013, 11:18:09 AM I am sure there was a post from bitstamp here but its disappeared.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nottm28 on July 27, 2013, 11:24:00 AM Yes I seen it too - saying something about policy not being able to freeze funds etc
[EDIT] and advising you to contact police Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: eneloop on July 27, 2013, 11:26:38 AM yep it was!
they won't freeze an account on private request...like expected. @green65 any news regarding met police? they have at least to: - get IPs from this BCT - get information from bitstamp - have a closer look at his PayPal account and Stefan Darin - and check the provided bank account - also get information about user gapthemind (BCT IP,...) Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 27, 2013, 11:31:30 AM Yes I seen it too - saying something about policy not being able to freeze funds etc [EDIT] and advising you to contact police If they can't freeze funds, they should give his all details. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: eneloop on July 27, 2013, 11:36:46 AM Yes I seen it too - saying something about policy not being able to freeze funds etc [EDIT] and advising you to contact police If they can't freeze funds, they should give his all details. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 27, 2013, 11:38:46 AM Yes I seen it too - saying something about policy not being able to freeze funds etc [EDIT] and advising you to contact police If they can't freeze funds, they should give his all details. Yeah i am talking about police not us :P Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 27, 2013, 01:05:38 PM Can someone contact theymos and ask for his ips?
I am also in the process or writing a report to be sent to the police can those who have been scammed by him contact me so i can add your contact info to the report. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: xgtele on July 27, 2013, 03:37:50 PM Can someone contact theymos and ask for his ips? I am also in the process or writing a report to be sent to the police can those who have been scammed by him contact me so i can add your contact info to the report. You can print all pages from the group buy and attach to your report Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: minerpumpkin on July 27, 2013, 05:17:30 PM You can print all pages from the group buy and attach to your report And I'm the first one to have replied to his group buy. This feels odd. Like having talked to a... criminal... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 27, 2013, 07:07:31 PM Got an answer from bitstamp:
Quote Bitstamp may share private user information if there is a relevant investigation carried out by the authorities. To victims of a crime we would kindly suggest to contact police and file a report. Too bad we can't access NSA XKeyScore and friends, we already would have that data... So it takes a little bit longer, Police -> Courtorder -> Bitstamp gives out data. @vdragon If you are reading this. I think with bitstamp we have a pretty good chance to get to you, so this is the last chance to man up and pay our monies back. If you ever used bitstamp with your real information you will have a bad time(tm). Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: iiaurent on July 27, 2013, 08:01:13 PM In linkedin the man removed his picture , i am sure it was in his profile two days ago
Someone to confirm this? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 27, 2013, 08:13:03 PM In linkedin the man removed his picture , i am sure it was in his profile two days ago I have an idea, in google, can't you use the "chached history" thingy?Someone to confirm this? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: griff on July 27, 2013, 08:14:23 PM Quote from: nomnomnom So it takes a little bit longer, Police -> Courtorder -> Bitstamp gives out data. Once the ball is rolling with the Police, they can send a RIPA to Bitstamp which then allows them to 'legally' disclose the information under the data protection act about the account of interest. That should be pretty straight forward once it's been signed off by the unit's detective. It shouldn't go as far as a court order unless Bitstamp refuse to cooperate and the Police deem it suitable enough to seize their server hard drives. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 27, 2013, 08:17:02 PM Quote from: nomnomnom So it takes a little bit longer, Police -> Courtorder -> Bitstamp gives out data. It shouldn't go as far as a court order unless Bitstamp refuse to cooperate and the Police deem it suitable enough to seize their server hard drives. LOLOLOL Then Bitstamp is fucked, they have no choise! Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: iiaurent on July 27, 2013, 08:23:18 PM I found Stefan darin removed his picture from his linkedin profil in the last two days
Look at the bottom left corner , small picture shows it. http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/260494image.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/798141image.jpg What do you think about it? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: griff on July 27, 2013, 08:26:55 PM His photo is still showing up for me (I've never looked at the page before). The URL I'm looking at:
http://es.linkedin.com/pub/stefan-darin/39/337/372 (http://es.linkedin.com/pub/stefan-darin/39/337/372) Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 27, 2013, 08:54:43 PM You sure it's the right Stefan Darin?
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 27, 2013, 08:57:52 PM I believe vdragon is watching this thread and enjoying the show. 1) vdragon's profile point to a shop. 2) gapthemind claims vadron's bank account points to "Zoltan Nagy". Maybe the IBAN is correct but not the name. My guess is that gapthemind is working with vdragon or is vdragon itself and IBAN points to random account. It's the only user who payed with SEPA. Lost ~1800€ but has better things to do than check this forum. 3) vdragon's paypal account points to "Stefan Darin". It's probably fake too but since vdragon did not used paypal for this scam, it's likely the most reliable guess (unless we are dealing with professional scammer). I agree with this, we must be careful posting pictures and stuff. Both names could be fake. I noticed both vdragon and gapthemind do something unusal in their posts, they almost always write cant doesnt wasnt, instead of can't doesn't wasn't, but maybe not much of an indicator ::) Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 27, 2013, 09:18:49 PM His photo is still showing up for me (I've never looked at the page before). The URL I'm looking at: That guy looks like a proper Dutch guy, hence his native language is Dutch.http://es.linkedin.com/pub/stefan-darin/39/337/372 Is it even the person we are looking for? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 27, 2013, 09:22:15 PM if gapthemind is legit and was scammed too, he will help us
by providing the sepa-transfer proof and filing a report to his police too Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 27, 2013, 09:25:03 PM if gapthemind is legit and was scammed too, he will help us Sorry for Gapthemind, but I don't really trust him as his name is Mindthegap in reverse and in the OP of the group buy vdragon states "we have to mind the gap, bla bla" That may have an connection with eachother.by providing the sepa-transfer proof and filing a report to his police too Before he gives me trust and proof of what he states, I will trust him somewhat. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 27, 2013, 09:27:13 PM Also, I noticed that Gapthemind is from Spain, and the maybe vdragon IRL both live in spain?
It's from the top of my mind, but I am just posting any leads I can think of, I am not Sherlock Holmes... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: griff on July 27, 2013, 09:32:27 PM His photo is still showing up for me (I've never looked at the page before). The URL I'm looking at: That guy looks like a proper Dutch guy, hence his native language is Dutch.http://es.linkedin.com/pub/stefan-darin/39/337/372 Is it even the person we are looking for? I don't think so. I think he's just been picked on because he's the top Google result that matches the Paypal account name. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 27, 2013, 09:49:19 PM Also, I noticed that Gapthemind is from Spain, and the maybe vdragon IRL both live in spain? It's from the top of my mind, but I am just posting any leads I can think of, I am not Sherlock Holmes... Nope not spain, says romania: Anonymous 1 Spain GLS 0.89 (sepa transfer, btc done) gapthemind 30 Romania GLS 26.7 (sepa transfer) Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 27, 2013, 09:57:36 PM Also, I noticed that Gapthemind is from Spain, and the maybe vdragon IRL both live in spain? It's from the top of my mind, but I am just posting any leads I can think of, I am not Sherlock Holmes... Nope not spain, says romania: Anonymous 1 Spain GLS 0.89 (sepa transfer, btc done) gapthemind 30 Romania GLS 26.7 (sepa transfer) Oops! Sorry... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Josue on July 27, 2013, 10:19:48 PM What do you think about it? I think that someone with better english than I can phone to this works to try get his phone number. Can say that want offer a work to this "person".... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: afonso on July 27, 2013, 11:09:55 PM https://www.facebook.com/darin.stefan.5
https://www.facebook.com/stefan.darin.7 both accounts seem pretty fake. the second one played a game called "dragon city". the guy is playing us! i would suggest that someone from UK press charges and have the authorities contact bitstamp in order to reveal the IBAN account(s) used to cash out the coins. preferably someone with big losses (green65?). from there, we will see what's the best move. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 28, 2013, 12:11:44 AM https://www.facebook.com/darin.stefan.5 https://www.facebook.com/stefan.darin.7 both accounts seem pretty fake. the second one played a game called "dragon city". the guy is playing us! i would suggest that someone from UK press charges and have the authorities contact bitstamp in order to reveal the IBAN account(s) used to cash out the coins. preferably someone with big losses (green65?). from there, we will see what's the best move. I don't have FB account, can someone check if one of those accounts posted something about Bitcoin, here is a thread about a ISO Code for Bitcoin, in which vdragon says he will post it on Facebook: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151843.msg1611668#msg1611668 Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: speciall on July 28, 2013, 05:48:17 AM Maybe its a good idea to get every vitcim identified before green files a complaint. They want names and ID's , not just forum nicknames.
I assume it will be possible with the Bitcoin message averybody should have sent? right? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on July 28, 2013, 12:53:14 PM Maybe its a good idea to get every vitcim identified before green files a complaint. They want names and ID's , not just forum nicknames. i sent that to green65 but i worry that some people might be working with vdragon notice how many people are on this list *CURRENT ORDERSI assume it will be possible with the Bitcoin message averybody should have sent? right? Name Qty Shipping Type of shipping chosen Bitcoin Paid me 787 ALL local Szabo Gabi 2 will pickup localy 1.78 (paid cash, btc done) goldbasket 10 no data included in blockchain 8.9 (btc) fragger 2 GLS 1.78 (btc) Anonymous 1 Spain GLS 0.89 (sepa transfer, btc done) Nemet Gyula 2 will pickup localy 1.78 (paid cash, btc done) gapthemind 30 Romania GLS 26.7 (sepa transfer) josue 4 Spain GLS 3.56 (btc) andrelam 3 Brazil GLS 2.67 (btc) qurashee 7 UK GLS 6.23 (btc) zmajns 2 Serbia local 1.78 (btc) cpjackso 5 UK GLS 4.45 (btc) iiaurent 13 France GLS 11.57 (btc) griff 32 UK GLS 28.48 (btc) green65 54 UK GLS 48.06 (btc) HellDiverUK 2 UK GLS 1.78 (btc) Nighthawkxx 3 Belgium GLS 2.67 (btc) Twoja Stara 1 Poland GLS 0.89 (btc) kuusj98 1 Holland GLS 0.89 (btc) xgtele 16 Russia GLS 14.24 (btc) Speciall 5 Belgium GLS 4.45 (btc) Wedgy2k 2 UK GLS 1.78 (btc) Ersch 1 Belgium GLS 0.89 (btc) maxi75 20 Croatia GLS 17.8 (btc) zoobidoo 5 France GLS 4.45 (btc) DannysCam 8 USA GLS 7.12 (btc) Green Samurai 9 Poland GLS 8.01 (btc) Gianluca 3 Italy GLS 2.67 (btc) pajak666 2 Poland GLS 1.78 (btc) monsters4r 1 Switzerland GLS 0.89 (btc) FuseR 3 Ukraine GLS 2.67 (btc) brijoco 5 UK GLS 4.45 (btc) hoping1234 2 Australia GLS 1.78 (btc) nowywbitcoi* 10 Poland GLS 8.9 (btc) s.t.e.i.w.o 5 Russia GLS 4.45 (btc) afonso 3 Luxembourgh GLS 2.67 (btc) Anonymous 6 EU GLS 5.34 (btc) nomnomnom 4 Germany GLS 3.56 (btc) manes 3 Spain GLS 2.67 (btc) tidus_13 1 Portugal GLS 0.89 (btc) bobko 24 Slovakia GLS 21.36 (btc) foroplus 4 Spain GLS 3.56 (btc) Xer0 20 Germany GLS 17.8 (btc) Moogle 11 UK GLS 9.79 (btc) albon 3 UK GLS 2.67 (btc) LukeFPS 20 UK GLS 17.8 (btc) how many of these people have come out in out rage? maybe half im thinking maybe he had fake accounts to make the group buy look big Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: tidus_13 on July 28, 2013, 01:59:47 PM We need do something to this scammers... Or we will be scammed again and again....
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 28, 2013, 02:00:48 PM Maybe its a good idea to get every vitcim identified before green files a complaint. They want names and ID's , not just forum nicknames. i sent that to green65 but i worry that some people might be working with vdragon notice how many people are on this list *CURRENT ORDERSI assume it will be possible with the Bitcoin message averybody should have sent? right? Name Qty Shipping Type of shipping chosen Bitcoin Paid me 787 ALL local Szabo Gabi 2 will pickup localy 1.78 (paid cash, btc done) goldbasket 10 no data included in blockchain 8.9 (btc) fragger 2 GLS 1.78 (btc) Anonymous 1 Spain GLS 0.89 (sepa transfer, btc done) Nemet Gyula 2 will pickup localy 1.78 (paid cash, btc done) gapthemind 30 Romania GLS 26.7 (sepa transfer) josue 4 Spain GLS 3.56 (btc) andrelam 3 Brazil GLS 2.67 (btc) qurashee 7 UK GLS 6.23 (btc) zmajns 2 Serbia local 1.78 (btc) cpjackso 5 UK GLS 4.45 (btc) iiaurent 13 France GLS 11.57 (btc) griff 32 UK GLS 28.48 (btc) green65 54 UK GLS 48.06 (btc) HellDiverUK 2 UK GLS 1.78 (btc) Nighthawkxx 3 Belgium GLS 2.67 (btc) Twoja Stara 1 Poland GLS 0.89 (btc) kuusj98 1 Holland GLS 0.89 (btc) xgtele 16 Russia GLS 14.24 (btc) Speciall 5 Belgium GLS 4.45 (btc) Wedgy2k 2 UK GLS 1.78 (btc) Ersch 1 Belgium GLS 0.89 (btc) maxi75 20 Croatia GLS 17.8 (btc) zoobidoo 5 France GLS 4.45 (btc) DannysCam 8 USA GLS 7.12 (btc) Green Samurai 9 Poland GLS 8.01 (btc) Gianluca 3 Italy GLS 2.67 (btc) pajak666 2 Poland GLS 1.78 (btc) monsters4r 1 Switzerland GLS 0.89 (btc) FuseR 3 Ukraine GLS 2.67 (btc) brijoco 5 UK GLS 4.45 (btc) hoping1234 2 Australia GLS 1.78 (btc) nowywbitcoi* 10 Poland GLS 8.9 (btc) s.t.e.i.w.o 5 Russia GLS 4.45 (btc) afonso 3 Luxembourgh GLS 2.67 (btc) Anonymous 6 EU GLS 5.34 (btc) nomnomnom 4 Germany GLS 3.56 (btc) manes 3 Spain GLS 2.67 (btc) tidus_13 1 Portugal GLS 0.89 (btc) bobko 24 Slovakia GLS 21.36 (btc) foroplus 4 Spain GLS 3.56 (btc) Xer0 20 Germany GLS 17.8 (btc) Moogle 11 UK GLS 9.79 (btc) albon 3 UK GLS 2.67 (btc) LukeFPS 20 UK GLS 17.8 (btc) how many of these people have come out in out rage? maybe half im thinking maybe he had fake accounts to make the group buy look big Sending everyone a PM will take forever as i can only send 5 emails an hour. Can everyone scammed send me a pm with your email and i will contact you by email. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on July 28, 2013, 02:36:50 PM I just sent my details to green65 who is filling a report for the police. I suggest anyone interested to contact with him
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on July 28, 2013, 05:49:03 PM Sending everyone a PM will take forever as i can only send 5 emails an hour. Can everyone scammed send me a pm with your email and i will contact you by email. Eh, why not just post a email address here and let them contact you via that email id. They can link their profile id in mail. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: xgtele on July 28, 2013, 06:45:58 PM I sent everything to green65
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: albon on July 28, 2013, 07:01:16 PM I have sent everything to green
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on July 28, 2013, 08:43:07 PM Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: iiaurent on July 28, 2013, 08:53:32 PM Message sent to green65
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: tidus_13 on July 28, 2013, 09:17:15 PM Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: wedgy2k on July 28, 2013, 10:57:36 PM Message sent to (mr?) green65
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on July 28, 2013, 11:03:53 PM Message sent to green65 2+ sent i attached about 12 Jpegs of my conversions with him Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 28, 2013, 11:36:41 PM Message sent
We should pass the List to the Hungary Authorities too, when its complete. And i will fill a report this week at the Polizei - Germans here please drop me a PN Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 29, 2013, 01:02:49 AM now he deducted the rest too...
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/50799b6634331bd32751f4b110ae616e50417de3659972589db1e29a4ca7c01e Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on July 29, 2013, 02:17:09 AM now he deducted the rest too... f**k him.... i found some thing odd in my messages a red flag i should have noticed. i told him i had to wait for a money transfer and he said the group buy will end once i get your BTC why would some one hold up a 1000+ group buy for 5 more bitcoins i should have noticed that as a red flaghttps://blockchain.info/de/tx/50799b6634331bd32751f4b110ae616e50417de3659972589db1e29a4ca7c01e Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: ElGabo on July 29, 2013, 02:39:26 PM He is not the owner of Exicom. Maybe an employee.
I'm from Hungary, maybe I can help you all but I have no idea how. I think police is not the best. If you have an idea just tell me. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 29, 2013, 02:44:32 PM Are you in Szeged? If yes, did you see a Logo like this in 6720: http://i39.tinypic.com/2ziqxbp.jpg
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: ElGabo on July 29, 2013, 03:43:48 PM No. Unfortuntely I'm far away from Szeged. Tomorrow I try to speak with my policeman friend but I'm afraid he will drop me the question what is bitcoin. But I'll try.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 29, 2013, 07:39:30 PM Can anyone explain me what the police wil do with the personal info (e.g. Addres, Real name) of the report green65 is going to submit?
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 29, 2013, 08:19:28 PM Can anyone explain me what the police wil do with the personal info (e.g. Addres, Real name) of the report green65 is going to submit? It’s just going to be a list of victims with their contact details along with the amount bought, bitcoins lost and aprox. fiat amount. If the police want to ask you any details then an email or phone number would be useful, also having victims addresses would be useful if he is found and compensation is to be paid, as people know the legal system still likes using lots of paper and snail mail. If you dont want to give me any info thats fine I will just put a note saying you did not want to provide me with this info which i would totally understand. If you send me a screenshot of your PMs thats evidence of a transaction and contact between you and vdragon. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 29, 2013, 08:54:03 PM did you notice that gapthemind does not sign in anymore?
i would write it right in with him as possible 2nd account... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Kouye on July 29, 2013, 09:34:32 PM I'm not accusing anyone.
But if yxt actually was the brain behind this scam, involving a random hungarian buddy, it would be a most excellent one, since he would have stolen over 200 BTC and still can continue his business unbothered. maybe yxt can help us about the price, No answer.@YXT, was it possible for him to resell @ 0.89? And maybe he was not looking depressed enough about a negative 1100+ eruptors on his order book. I know, paranoia. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nottm28 on July 29, 2013, 09:49:48 PM I'm not accusing anyone. But if yxt actually was the brain behind this scam, involving a random hungarian buddy, it would be a most excellent one, since he would have stolen over 200 BTC and still can continue his business unbothered. maybe yxt can help us about the price, No answer.@YXT, was it possible for him to resell @ 0.89? And maybe he was not looking depressed enough about a negative 1100+ eruptors on his order book. I know, paranoia. It's a bit harsh to question yxt imo. Nobody asked this guy (vdragon) about his credentials which is essentially the problem here. Yxt generally posts in group buys (like the UK group buy with OutCast3k) to state stock is not a problem etc. There is no condoning of an individual in his posts. Also, 0.89 was the price for > 1000 units. [EDIT] I feel your pain though and I'm gutted for you all that this (vdragon) little shit did what he did. Best hope is for green and the police route. I hope this guy is caught and maybe some cash returned... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: iiaurent on July 29, 2013, 09:56:30 PM you can 1000% trust yxt
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 29, 2013, 10:14:38 PM vdragon reserved 1000 units and so got the 0.89 price from yxt
he never was part of a earlier gb, it was just through the quote Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on July 29, 2013, 10:35:53 PM i was scammed on amazon the other day they have asicminers for sell but lucky for me i can file a A to Z claim and get my money back they have units around 80 bucks each i did manage to order one for 52 dollars about a hour ago but i fear its a scam we will see
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 30, 2013, 02:32:41 PM Can anyone explain me what the police wil do with the personal info (e.g. Addres, Real name) of the report green65 is going to submit? It’s just going to be a list of victims with their contact details along with the amount bought, bitcoins lost and aprox. fiat amount. If the police want to ask you any details then an email or phone number would be useful, also having victims addresses would be useful if he is found and compensation is to be paid, as people know the legal system still likes using lots of paper and snail mail. If you dont want to give me any info thats fine I will just put a note saying you did not want to provide me with this info which i would totally understand. If you send me a screenshot of your PMs thats evidence of a transaction and contact between you and vdragon. I will give you my "normal" email addres also via an email to you, which also contains my real name, and if they want to contact me, they can do so by mail. Also incluided a signed message so i can proof I send the amount to vdragon and that it is my BTC addres. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: green65 on July 30, 2013, 03:14:22 PM I have contacted action fraud today and got a crime ref. number. ::)
Can everyone who was scammed in the UK report it to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ if you want to i can provide you with my crime ref number so everyones reports can be linked (PM or email me) If your outside the uk report it to your countries police. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: albon on July 30, 2013, 03:49:19 PM I have also made a police complaint at action on fraud
This may catch him but not any good getting my BTC back. I could quite happerly swing for this guy Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 30, 2013, 04:30:00 PM I have contacted action fraud today and got a crime ref. number. ::) You read my 2 e-mails? I do not live in the UK, so you know...Can everyone who was scammed in the UK report it to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ if you want to i can provide you with my crime ref number so everyones reports can be linked (PM or email me) If your outside the uk report it to your countries police. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 30, 2013, 05:58:49 PM i just checked my old transaction to Bitstamp
they are splitted the same way looking like a mixer so it seems he just plain cashed out them... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 30, 2013, 06:27:18 PM Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0 Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on July 30, 2013, 06:35:27 PM Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0 Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said... Well there's no reason to get frustrated. We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time, plus this online shop didn't exist. If it existed in the first place, people wouldn't have to resort to group orders at that extent. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on July 30, 2013, 07:01:24 PM Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0 Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said... Well there's no reason to get frustrated. We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time, plus this online shop didn't exist. If it existed in the first place, people wouldn't have to resort to group orders at that extent. exactly >:( Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on July 30, 2013, 07:05:52 PM Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0 Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said... Well there's no reason to get frustrated. We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time, plus this online shop didn't exist. If it existed in the first place, people wouldn't have to resort to group orders at that extent. exactly >:( Well if we want to be fair that makes sense too. The difficulty is rising like crazy, so in order to break even, you have to spend a lot of time. Dropping the prices is the only way for this miner to stay competitive. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on July 30, 2013, 07:08:13 PM We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time yep. i just panic-sold all my erupters on eBay, cause i can now get twice of them for the priceTitle: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Dougie on July 30, 2013, 07:17:59 PM I am very impressed by the progress of finding this guy. I'll never scam anyone because people are so innovative when finding people. Online traceability is difficult to cover up (I hope for your benefit). I'm sorry for bloating the thread but I want to subscribe to it to see the progress.
Good luck guys. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Kouye on July 30, 2013, 07:36:04 PM I am very impressed by the progress of finding this guy. I'll never scam anyone because people are so innovative when finding people. Online traceability is difficult to cover up (I hope for your benefit). I'm sorry for bloating the thread but I want to subscribe to it to see the progress. Good luck guys. It's actually very easy for someone not too stupid to steal identity, too. It takes a couple days to build up a solid fake identity, with all the stupid careless people posting stuff on internet, thinking "only friends can access", and posting their ID scans to random shady sites for "verification". You need to be very cautious when hunting, and when filing reports. The only way to 100% make sure is to meet the guy f2f before you get scammed. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: route on August 01, 2013, 08:30:53 PM Hi,
dude also invited his victims to this scam on bitcoinforum.com https://www.bitcoinforum.com/marketplace/usb-erupters-groupbuy-0-89btc-a-piece-euint/msg4453/#msg4453. But one has to register to see posts. Here is the screenshot: http://klub.homemade.net/euminer/vdragon.jpg Just another lead for police to pursue. route Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on August 02, 2013, 05:04:58 AM Hi, thanks for the info maybe if all us nerds can unite we can stop him!!!dude also invited his victims to this scam on bitcoinforum.com https://www.bitcoinforum.com/marketplace/usb-erupters-groupbuy-0-89btc-a-piece-euint/msg4453/#msg4453. But one has to register to see posts. Here is the screenshot: http://klub.homemade.net/euminer/vdragon.jpg Just another lead for police to pursue. route Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on August 02, 2013, 11:40:34 AM there could to be anohter BTC address associated - look at the "send mBTC to vdragon"
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on August 02, 2013, 05:28:18 PM Did you guys got his IP address logs from theymos?
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: btcton on August 02, 2013, 08:34:01 PM Wow. I honestly hope you find him. If anybody knows him face-to-face, then speak up. Good luck, guys.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: tidus_13 on August 02, 2013, 09:13:22 PM Hi, dude also invited his victims to this scam on bitcoinforum.com https://www.bitcoinforum.com/marketplace/usb-erupters-groupbuy-0-89btc-a-piece-euint/msg4453/#msg4453. But one has to register to see posts. Here is the screenshot: http://klub.homemade.net/euminer/vdragon.jpg Just another lead for police to pursue. route Someone can go .bitcoinforum.com and ask moderators to cooperate with IPs loggs and other infos. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: BTCat on August 02, 2013, 10:54:14 PM Hi guys, was just browsing and curious about doing research but I have nothing to do with anything of this.
Just googled the guys email and found it on a list where people seem to be asked to sell their forum account. If it helps here's the link. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0;wap If you search vccdragon@hotmail.com you will find he might have sold his account and someone else is using it. You will find caspercat1997@gmail.com, which could be a stolen/hacked account as well. It's in Hongkong. http://www.whoismind.com/whois/chromaticcreative.net.html Twitter: @lordsonkit For what it's worth, i hate scams so goodluck on this. But don't hunt the wrong ones, they could be victim themselves. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: dexX7 on August 02, 2013, 10:54:30 PM There are some possibilities: A: he is clean. still on the drive way or pausing in a motel without internet. and has a fucking reason pushing all our 300 btc through a mixer B: was a legit member before and decided to do this scam shortly C: scam was planned long before and so are all old posts fake and just part of a story (=we are screwed) D: his account was compromised (just to list this, too) Did he post shipping rates anywhere? This could potentially shrink the area where he might be located as I assume that s/h rates to country x from location y are different than from country z to location x. Very vague lead, but I just wanted to give some input.. I'd say: get theymos in here. Edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0;wap If you search vccdragon@hotmail.com you will find he might have sold his account and someone else is using it. Wow, good find. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Moogle on August 07, 2013, 02:43:50 AM Yeah I found that selling thing too.
Are there really no mods here who help with this kind of thing. IP checks and whatnot. It just seems so shit that scams are so easily donecandvare allowed ton continue undeterred Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on August 07, 2013, 06:03:39 PM Yeah I found that selling thing too. Are there really no mods here who help with this kind of thing. IP checks and whatnot. It just seems so shit that scams are so easily donecandvare allowed ton continue undeterred Mod's can't check ip address etc, only admins can. :( Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Kouye on August 07, 2013, 06:05:32 PM Mod's can't check ip address etc, only admins can. :( TradeFortress apparently can, too. Unless that PM he sent to me was only bragging. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: tidus_13 on August 08, 2013, 10:08:03 PM we need news green65.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on August 09, 2013, 03:53:50 AM we need news green65. question did we ever have proof that green65 was not vdragon? i could be totally wrong and if i am i would like to apologize to green65 i just wish there was a way to check and so whose who Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on August 09, 2013, 09:03:04 AM we need news green65. question did we ever have proof that green65 was not vdragon? i could be totally wrong and if i am i would like to apologize to green65 i just wish there was a way to check and so whose who green65 is a legit guy, if you check his other threads, he's selling usb fan's which he probably bought for these block erupters. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Dougie on August 10, 2013, 08:33:56 AM Would there be any way that the seller of the blockerruptors (friedcat?) would give you the block eruptors you paid for? I know that fraud takes place in these forums all the time but it seems that this one was unavoidable. The way that they were being sold meant you needed to place trust in one person and escrow wasn't easy or practical. Has anyone tried emailing him make him aware of the situation. If I were him I'd feel partly responsible for your loss and I'm sure a few blockeruptors wouldn't break his bank when I'm sure it has for a lot of you guys.
Sorry if this is a stupid suggestion or it has been done already, it just seems investigation is becoming stale and it's not looking good. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: MPOE-PR on August 10, 2013, 11:21:26 AM If I were him I'd feel partly responsible for your loss BS. Stop "feeling sorry" on other people's BTC. You wish to pay for all the scams going on, go ahead. Alternatively, the various muppets thinking they're hot shit on the basis of having said the word "Bitcoin" fifty times the past week and having "been involved" for "a long time" by nobody having heard of them ever since last Autumn need to chill the fuck out, read my posts, get with the program and stop feeding the scammers. What the hell does the peanut gallery think Bitcoin is, anyway? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: eneloop on August 10, 2013, 11:36:37 AM @green65
Do you filed a case at interpol financial crimes too? I think that could be useful. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Dougie on August 10, 2013, 02:55:08 PM If I were him I'd feel partly responsible for your loss BS. Stop "feeling sorry" on other people's BTC. You wish to pay for all the scams going on, go ahead. Alternatively, the various muppets thinking they're hot shit on the basis of having said the word "Bitcoin" fifty times the past week and having "been involved" for "a long time" by nobody having heard of them ever since last Autumn need to chill the fuck out, read my posts, get with the program and stop feeding the scammers. What the hell does the peanut gallery think Bitcoin is, anyway? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Kouye on August 10, 2013, 03:17:17 PM Would there be any way that the seller of the blockerruptors (friedcat?) would give you the block eruptors you paid for? I know that fraud takes place in these forums all the time but it seems that this one was unavoidable. The way that they were being sold meant you needed to place trust in one person and escrow wasn't easy or practical. Has anyone tried emailing him make him aware of the situation. If I were him I'd feel partly responsible for your loss and I'm sure a few blockeruptors wouldn't break his bank when I'm sure it has for a lot of you guys. Sorry if this is a stupid suggestion or it has been done already, it just seems investigation is becoming stale and it's not looking good. That is complete bullshit, sorry. Serious group-buyers use escrow. The rest get scammed. Period. This is completely outrageous to suggest that (one of ?) the only asics provider with real stock should cover for a scam involving his products ? You want him to pay for all the AM shares scams, too ? You pissed me off, there. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: John (John K.) on August 10, 2013, 03:52:22 PM PS: I scammer-tagged him to prevent him changing any details (posts etc).
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: route on August 10, 2013, 04:16:03 PM PS: I scammer-tagged him to prevent him changing any details (posts etc). Please also tag scammer EuropeanMiner. It would be nice if there is possible to restore all of the posts he made while preparing his scam. He deleted most of them after he was exposed. Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136036 For now I beleive it is just an alt of the vdragon, and there are more of his alts out there possible. route Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Dougie on August 10, 2013, 10:17:00 PM That is complete bullshit, sorry. I don't understand how escrow could have been used in this case. The seller needs the money to send the product so either you trust the main group buyer with all the money and then all of the products before sending them out or you send the money to an escrow, they send to the seller and the main group buyer still has to be trusted with all of the products before mailing them out to the group buyers. Please clarify my outrageous line of thought if I'm wrong. As far as I know all of the block eruptors go to one address.Serious group-buyers use escrow. The rest get scammed. Period. This is completely outrageous to suggest that (one of ?) the only asics provider with real stock should cover for a scam involving his products ? You want him to pay for all the AM shares scams, too ? You pissed me off, there. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Kouye on August 10, 2013, 10:28:32 PM I don't understand how escrow could have been used in this case. The seller needs the money to send the product so either you trust the main group buyer with all the money and then all of the products before sending them out or you send the money to an escrow, they send to the seller and the main group buyer still has to be trusted with all of the products before mailing them out to the group buyers. Please clarify my outrageous line of thought if I'm wrong. As far as I know all of the block eruptors go to one address. True. Escrow could do nothing but make sure the order is actually executed. That is still better than what happened here, though, as the scammer would have to get rid - or mine with - the eruptors, instead of getting a load of bitcoins he can instantly convert to cash. Probably makes things easier in case legal actions are taken, too. Still does not fix the issue, I agree, and apologize. But that's not the part that made me mad. :D Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: John (John K.) on August 11, 2013, 11:43:51 AM PS: I scammer-tagged him to prevent him changing any details (posts etc). Please also tag scammer EuropeanMiner. It would be nice if there is possible to restore all of the posts he made while preparing his scam. He deleted most of them after he was exposed. Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136036 For now I beleive it is just an alt of the vdragon, and there are more of his alts out there possible. route He's already banned by some other mod/admin here. I don't understand how escrow could have been used in this case. The seller needs the money to send the product so either you trust the main group buyer with all the money and then all of the products before sending them out or you send the money to an escrow, they send to the seller and the main group buyer still has to be trusted with all of the products before mailing them out to the group buyers. Please clarify my outrageous line of thought if I'm wrong. As far as I know all of the block eruptors go to one address. True. Escrow could do nothing but make sure the order is actually executed. That is still better than what happened here, though, as the scammer would have to get rid - or mine with - the eruptors, instead of getting a load of bitcoins he can instantly convert to cash. Probably makes things easier in case legal actions are taken, too. Still does not fix the issue, I agree, and apologize. But that's not the part that made me mad. :D Well, if a partial escrow was used here, you guys would have the location where the products were sent to, and probably his ID and stuff if he choose to verify them with the escrower. Not to mention that he'll have a PITA trying to liquidate the miners as we're a small community anyway. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on August 11, 2013, 12:34:37 PM For now I beleive it is just an alt of the vdragon, and there are more of his alts out there possible. "gapthemind" was an alt, too. never logged on again after questionaired Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: John (John K.) on August 11, 2013, 12:43:46 PM For now I beleive it is just an alt of the vdragon, and there are more of his alts out there possible. "gapthemind" was an alt, too. never logged on again after questionaired Nope, no leads on that AFAICT. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on August 11, 2013, 01:10:37 PM he provided SEPA data after requested dozen times, reacted bitchy
and said he "had something better to do" ... whith a loss of 3000$ ! then he dissapeared after asked for a scan/screen of his transaction Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Tursk on August 11, 2013, 01:41:47 PM My guess is that both gapthemind and vdragon were accounts stolen or bought from their original owners.
Look at gapthemind's posting history. That account posted only on some political ramblings threads, then stopped posting in April. Over three months later there's this post in July: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252180.msg2730823#msg2730823 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252180.msg2730823#msg2730823) Gapthemind's post has this strange tone like it's the most important thing his partial departure won't ruin this group buy. Within 15 minutes vdragon has replied although it should be 1am in Hungary. All is forgiven when this buyer so humbly apologises and money is paid back. Oops, gapthemind supposedly paid with SEPA transfer, but is getting BTC back. Where can you buy baby food with BTC? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: r3wt on August 11, 2013, 01:50:56 PM you didn't get this from me
skype: stefansofia location: sofia, bulgaria known aliases: BitcointalkAccounts, Blazr, scotaloo Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DiamondCardz on August 11, 2013, 01:59:37 PM skype: stefansofia location: sofia, bulgaria known aliases: BitcointalkAccounts, Blazr, scotaloo You mean BTCTalkAccounts? That fucker... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: r3wt on August 11, 2013, 02:01:18 PM skype: stefansofia location: sofia, bulgaria known aliases: BitcointalkAccounts, Blazr, scotaloo You mean BTCTalkAccounts? That fucker... tip of the iceberg Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DiamondCardz on August 11, 2013, 02:15:27 PM skype: stefansofia location: sofia, bulgaria known aliases: BitcointalkAccounts, Blazr, scotaloo You mean BTCTalkAccounts? That fucker... tip of the iceberg I'm fully aware. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on August 12, 2013, 05:18:55 AM i did a youtube video about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9yPlyefH8k hope it helps sheds more light on the scammer tell me what you guys thank
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on August 12, 2013, 07:40:46 AM Haha Danny I saw it on YouTube, you explained it pretty good.
You have so many stuff, do you even have space to live in your house? :P Kiddin mate, I love your videos. I lost all of my BTC, well, I still have 0.001 but thats rubbish. I dont think we wil ever see our BTC back, we should have not trusted people from eastern Europe, I know it sounds hard but it is commonly known here that there are only scams to be found in eastern europe... I looked over the original tread again, and noticed a red flag: He first said he had a Audi A6 but a few posts later he said he doesnt have a A6 but A A4, Im sure everyone knows which can he has or no? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on August 12, 2013, 07:43:53 AM skype: stefansofia location: sofia, bulgaria known aliases: BitcointalkAccounts, Blazr, scotaloo You mean BTCTalkAccounts? That fucker... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on August 12, 2013, 09:50:24 AM Haha Danny I saw it on YouTube, you explained it pretty good. true but we would have never noticed that unless we had a problem looking back im sure we will find alot of things like that...You have so many stuff, do you even have space to live in your house? :P Kiddin mate, I love your videos. I lost all of my BTC, well, I still have 0.001 but thats rubbish. I dont think we wil ever see our BTC back, we should have not trusted people from eastern Europe, I know it sounds hard but it is commonly known here that there are only scams to be found in eastern europe... I looked over the original tread again, and noticed a red flag: He first said he had a Audi A6 but a few posts later he said he doesnt have a A6 but A A4, Im sure everyone knows which can he has or no? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: r3wt on August 12, 2013, 09:59:04 AM skype: stefansofia location: sofia, bulgaria known aliases: BitcointalkAccounts, Blazr, scotaloo You mean BTCTalkAccounts? That fucker... this guy/group is a well known group of scammers. the name "stefan" is a likely fake identity they assume to carry out their operations. we've been tracking these guys(along with several others) for along time. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nomnomnom on August 13, 2013, 10:53:20 PM Hey what's going on here, I am pretty sure I saw a post yesterday
from "Blazr" that is gone now. Someone deleting posts? Was something like: he just did some coding work for those guys, then got hacked by them, so he is not saying much anymore. And he said that r3wt was also somehow part of this. wtf? Whatever, I just wanted to say that I don't think that vdragon was a bought account. I read ALL his fucking posts. And his posting style is pretty consistent since he made the account in Feb. But ofc one can never be 100% sure... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: astutiumRob on August 13, 2013, 11:45:28 PM Hey what's going on here, I am pretty sure I saw a post yesterday You did, several posts have been deleted, including the claim by Blazr that they we're just in the 'background' doing coding for a group of scammersfrom "Blazr" that is gone now. Someone deleting posts? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: MPOE-PR on August 14, 2013, 12:43:53 AM I've always wondered why your ignore button is so lit up. I justified my reasoning. I know there is a lot of fraud in the forums but this is a bit different. The means that these were sold made them vulnerable to fraud and I feel that part of this responsibility lies with the seller. You've not justified "your reasoning". Reasoning isn't ever justified by appeal to the group. You've justified your stupidity. Just like every other idiot upset at me for him being an idiot. Carry on, keep getting scammed because "your reasoning" is so broken in prevents you from fixing it. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: User705 on August 14, 2013, 04:36:28 AM If I were him I'd feel partly responsible for your loss BS. Stop "feeling sorry" on other people's BTC. You wish to pay for all the scams going on, go ahead. Alternatively, the various muppets thinking they're hot shit on the basis of having said the word "Bitcoin" fifty times the past week and having "been involved" for "a long time" by nobody having heard of them ever since last Autumn need to chill the fuck out, read my posts, get with the program and stop feeding the scammers. What the hell does the peanut gallery think Bitcoin is, anyway? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on August 14, 2013, 12:03:18 PM Hey what's going on here, I am pretty sure I saw a post yesterday You did, several posts have been deleted, including the claim by Blazr that they we're just in the 'background' doing coding for a group of scammersfrom "Blazr" that is gone now. Someone deleting posts? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Dougie on August 14, 2013, 09:32:42 PM whaaaaaa ?????? You understand the concept behind bitcoin right? The whole non-reversible part? The whole part about only you controlling your money and no one else? What made you be interested in bitcoins anyways? Yes I understand the concept entirely. Bitcoin trades require trust on some level. My point is that the process of getting these products required group buys which involved placing trust in someone, escrow couldn't remove the scam potential. I'm surprised there wasn't more scams of this kind. Read my other posts in this thread to fully understand my point and you may either agree or disagree. If you don't understand what I mean or want to argue against my opinion feel free to send me a PM and we can discuss. My controversial post has taken over this thread.Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: 001sonkit on August 17, 2013, 09:24:40 PM I've posted this info on page 7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0;wap If you search vccdragon@hotmail.com you will find he might have sold his account and someone else is using it. You will find caspercat1997@gmail.com, which could be a stolen/hacked account as well. It's in Hongkong. --- And now posing as the same Casper (001sonkit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64065) he is posting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272037.80 Scammer at work it seems ... He actually admitted to have purchased bitcointalk accounts, reason given to extract xrp from the free offerings. Knowing once email address doesnt mean that I am one of the account owner of it. To be frank, I own plenty of public email address of BitcoinTalk You can find me acquire history at http://pastebin.com/42TDUCYR http://pastebin.com/yv737ZgH Code: <? Code: <? The above is the qualification tool and the email searching too i have created. By the way, BTCat please consider removing your neg rep at me coz up till now you have no prove that I own, I have incentive to scam with this account. The above content is a summary of what i have PMmed BTCat. Instead of having a proxy to send all the message to you guys thus having some more neg rep dropping into my account, I think this is the best way to clear all the FUDs on my side. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: nottm28 on August 17, 2013, 10:09:38 PM I was understanding everything in this until the last 3 posts by Blazr, BTCat and now the incomprehensible 001sonkit .
Or is it just me... what's going on? Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: BTCat on August 17, 2013, 10:11:21 PM I've posted this info on page 7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148086.0;wap If you search vccdragon@hotmail.com you will find he might have sold his account and someone else is using it. You will find caspercat1997@gmail.com, which could be a stolen/hacked account as well. It's in Hongkong. --- And now posing as the same Casper (001sonkit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64065) he is posting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272037.80 Scammer at work it seems ... He actually admitted to have purchased bitcointalk accounts, reason given to extract xrp from the free offerings. Knowing once email address doesnt mean that I am one of the account owner of it. To be frank, I own plenty of public email address of BitcoinTalk You can find me acquire history at http://pastebin.com/42TDUCYR http://pastebin.com/yv737ZgH Code: <? Code: <? The above is the qualification tool and the email searching too i have created. By the way, BTCat please consider removing your neg rep at me coz up till now you have no prove that I own, I have incentive to scam with this account. The above content is a summary of what i have PMmed BTCat. Instead of having a proxy to send all the message to you guys thus having some more neg rep dropping into my account, I think this is the best way to clear all the FUDs on my side. Casper, you are right that there is no prove you do control or have purchased the vdragon account. Only that you did offer him to buy it is a fact. Quite a coincidence. Removing negative trust but comment stays until resolved. 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Se você gostaria de responder apenas a uma resposta individual de outra pessoa, você pode criar um novo tópico sobre o assunto. MOVENDO TÓPICOS Todos os membros têm a capacidade de mover os seus próprios tópicos. A ligação está na parte inferior da página do tópico. Não peça aos moderadores para fazê-lo. SITES E COMÉRCIOS ILEGAIS Não publique ofertas comerciais que são, obviamente, ilegais na maioria dos países do primeiro mundo. Não vincular ou anunciar sites que são construídos para permitir que essas operações. Read before you accuse Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: 001sonkit on August 18, 2013, 03:06:25 AM Quote Forwarded conversation Subject: Re: My BitcoinTalk account being banned suddenly ------------------------ From: theymos <theymos at m m. s - t> Date: 2013/3/16 To: Cheng Casper <chromaticcreative@gmail.com> You are 001sonkit. You were sending spam PMs. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Cheng Casper wrote: hi theymos, I know you are an Admin of bTalk, my account chromaticcr was being banned. any reason or causes? ---------- From: theymos <theymos at m m. s - t> Date: 2013/3/16 To: Cheng Casper <chromaticcreative@gmail.com> Not when you're banned. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Cheng Casper wrote: So no alts allowed? ---------- From: theymos <theymos at m m. s - t> Date: 2013/3/17 To: Cheng Casper <chromaticcreative@gmail.com> I'll unban you if you send 0.5 BTC to 1DTr8851AbSxNPnWN7dHFXb9YbGXPiXx8Q. I'm not going to unban you again if you keep spamming people, though. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Cheng Casper wrote: Okay... So any way like giving a donation pledge to the forum can un-ban and showing apoplogy to community and take promise on not violating the regulations again on forum? ---------- From: Casper Cheng Tsz Chun <caspercat1997@gmail.com> Date: 2013/3/17 To: theymos <theymos at m m. s - t> Please check balance. please only unban my original account 001sonkit. i promis i will not spam here again. ---------- From: theymos <theymos at m m. s - t> Date: 2013/3/17 To: Casper Cheng Tsz Chun <caspercat1997@gmail.com> Alright. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: 001sonkit on August 18, 2013, 03:35:35 AM I was understanding everything in this until the last 3 posts by Blazr, BTCat and now the incomprehensible 001sonkit . Or is it just me... what's going on? To conclude I am here to defense from the random accusation from BTCat. Showing that I am not owner nor do what vdragon have done Hi Casper. Despite he is not a trusted member in the community but at least i would like to keep my account as clean as possible. Plus I wouldnt have shown my identity everywhere (email, vanity address, username) in all my above proof. You are able to search for my living place with the above information actually.Sorry about my negative post but it seems you bought a bitcointalk account that was involved in a scam. Perhaps it's better to learn what happened, so that you are not immediately accused of it. Please tell me what you have done with the account vdragon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79855 If you can help to find the person that stole about 300 btc with vdragon account, there are a few people willing to give a reward (btc). Please send me all you know then I will concidder to delete negative trust as well. Thanks. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: BTCat on August 18, 2013, 09:41:32 AM Casper, it's not a random event.
Your name popped up while looking for the vccdragon hotmail address plus the inquiry to purchase vdragon's account. As we both agree this does not prove that you actually did control vdragon. So, knowing all this and no other lead I will drop the case. If you really have nothing to do with it, my apologies for connecting you to this. It was worth a verification. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: 001sonkit on August 18, 2013, 12:03:29 PM Thanks for your caring to the Bitcoin Community for finding suspect of vdragon. I know this step is inevitable as I am on the suspect list.
If this is a big case, i suggest you to ask mods if there are any trace left behind by him. It might be a more direct path Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 18, 2013, 12:50:00 PM Hey what's going on here, I am pretty sure I saw a post yesterday from "Blazr" that is gone now. Someone deleting posts? Yep, sorry guys I had to delete the post, I'll explain as soon as I can, but for now anybody wondering what it was about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159359.msg2749356#msg2749356 I suspect Blazr of helping BTCTalkAccounts again. I've provided some information to Blazr that ended up being disclosed to BTCTalkAccounts. Also Blazr has been doxxing people, I recall his thread asking if someone would do a free domaintools history search. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: cpjackso on September 26, 2013, 09:50:47 PM Does anyone have an update on this? Anyone have the UK crime number for the report to the UK police?
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on October 01, 2013, 08:58:29 PM Does anyone have an update on this? Anyone have the UK crime number for the report to the UK police? I guess this is pretty dead, unfortuantly.Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DiamondCardz on October 01, 2013, 09:05:57 PM Yep, looks like he got away. He was actually quite new, only joined in January 2013 with no rep at all - why did people trust him with so much? :-\
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Magazine on October 01, 2013, 09:09:59 PM Someone who I watch on YouTube got hit by this douche, hope he gets what is coming to him.
Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on October 08, 2013, 08:13:51 PM Someone who I watch on YouTube got hit by this douche, hope he gets what is coming to him. It's that Danny guy eh?He has weird stuff but he is pretty fun to watch :) Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DannysCam on October 27, 2013, 03:43:48 AM Someone who I watch on YouTube got hit by this douche, hope he gets what is coming to him. hey did you hear some haters got my channel taken down.... check out my new channel howtodanny and i got the rights to my old channels name DannysCam but not alot of videos any more...Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Hippie Tech on October 28, 2013, 04:55:55 AM DAaaammn. :(
I wish I would have made a stink about this guy not wanting to use escrow. Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: Xer0 on November 11, 2013, 05:07:03 PM Does anyone have an update on this? Anyone have the UK crime number for the report to the UK police? I guess this is pretty dead, unfortuantly.Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: escrow.ms on April 02, 2014, 11:35:19 PM This guy is on skype, name is robert nagy
search vccdragon@hotmail.com Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: DiamondCardz on April 05, 2014, 04:01:59 PM This guy is on skype, name is robert nagy search vccdragon@hotmail.com Hmm, that's very interesting, and it does match the email on his bitcointalk account... Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: kuusj98 on May 30, 2014, 09:37:58 PM This guy is on skype, name is robert nagy search vccdragon@hotmail.com Hmm, that's very interesting, and it does match the email on his bitcointalk account... His email got mentioned in that huge list. I'll try to see if he is still active on that skype acount. C'mon people! He can't get away! Title: Re: vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force Post by: qurashee on November 05, 2014, 07:52:12 PM Any updates on this case?
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