vdragon Erupter-Groupbuy-Scam : Task Force

[Xer0]

Are you in Szeged? If yes, did you see a Logo like this in 6720: http://i39.tinypic.com/2ziqxbp.jpg

[ElGabo]

No. Unfortuntely I'm far away from Szeged. Tomorrow I try to speak with my policeman friend but I'm afraid he will drop me the question what is bitcoin. But I'll try.

[kuusj98]

Can anyone explain me what the police wil do with the personal info (e.g. Addres, Real name) of the report green65 is going to submit?

[green65]

Can anyone explain me what the police wil do with the personal info (e.g. Addres, Real name) of the report green65 is going to submit?

It’s just going to be a list of victims with their contact details along with the amount bought, bitcoins lost and aprox. fiat amount.

If the police want to ask you any details then an email or phone number would be useful, also having victims addresses would be useful if he is found and compensation is to be paid, as people know the legal system still likes using lots of paper and snail mail. If you dont want to give me any info thats fine I will just put a note saying you did not want to provide me with this info which i would totally understand.

If you send me a screenshot of your PMs thats evidence of a transaction and contact between you and vdragon.

[Xer0]

did you notice that gapthemind does not sign in anymore?
i would write it right in with him as possible 2nd account...

[Kouye]

I'm not accusing anyone.

But if yxt actually was the brain behind this scam, involving a random hungarian buddy, it would be a most excellent one, since he would have stolen over 200 BTC and still can continue his business unbothered.

maybe yxt can help us about the price,
@YXT, was it possible for him to resell @ 0.89?

No answer.

And maybe he was not looking depressed enough about a negative 1100+ eruptors on his order book.

I know, paranoia.

[nottm28]

I'm not accusing anyone.

But if yxt actually was the brain behind this scam, involving a random hungarian buddy, it would be a most excellent one, since he would have stolen over 200 BTC and still can continue his business unbothered.

maybe yxt can help us about the price,
@YXT, was it possible for him to resell @ 0.89?

No answer.

And maybe he was not looking depressed enough about a negative 1100+ eruptors on his order book.

I know, paranoia.

It's a bit harsh to question yxt imo. Nobody asked this guy (vdragon) about his credentials which is essentially the problem here. Yxt generally posts in group buys (like the UK group buy with OutCast3k) to state stock is not a problem etc. There is no condoning of an individual in his posts. Also, 0.89 was the price for > 1000 units.

[EDIT] I feel your pain though and I'm gutted for you all that this (vdragon) little shit did what he did. Best hope is for green and the police route. I hope this guy is caught and maybe some cash returned...

[iiaurent]

you can 1000% trust yxt

[Xer0]

vdragon reserved 1000 units and so got the 0.89 price from yxt
he never was part of a earlier gb, it was just through the quote

[DannysCam]

i was scammed on amazon the other day they have asicminers for sell but lucky for me i can file a A to Z claim and get my money back they have units around 80 bucks each i did manage to order one for 52 dollars about a hour ago but i fear its a scam we will see

[kuusj98]

Can anyone explain me what the police wil do with the personal info (e.g. Addres, Real name) of the report green65 is going to submit?

It’s just going to be a list of victims with their contact details along with the amount bought, bitcoins lost and aprox. fiat amount.

If the police want to ask you any details then an email or phone number would be useful, also having victims addresses would be useful if he is found and compensation is to be paid, as people know the legal system still likes using lots of paper and snail mail. If you dont want to give me any info thats fine I will just put a note saying you did not want to provide me with this info which i would totally understand.

If you send me a screenshot of your PMs thats evidence of a transaction and contact between you and vdragon.

I send you the PM's via mail.
I will give you my "normal" email addres also via an email to you, which also contains my real name, and if they want to contact me, they can do so by mail.
Also incluided a signed message so i can proof I send the amount to vdragon and that it is my BTC addres.

[green65]

I have contacted action fraud today and got a crime ref. number. 

Can everyone who was scammed in the UK report it to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ if you want to i can provide you with my crime ref number so everyones reports can be linked (PM or email me)

If your outside the uk report it to your countries police.

[albon]

I have also made a police complaint at action on fraud

This may catch him but not any good getting my BTC back.

I could quite happerly swing for this guy

[kuusj98]

I have contacted action fraud today and got a crime ref. number. 

Can everyone who was scammed in the UK report it to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/ if you want to i can provide you with my crime ref number so everyones reports can be linked (PM or email me)

If your outside the uk report it to your countries police.

You read my 2 e-mails? I do not live in the UK, so you know...

[Xer0]

i just checked my old transaction to Bitstamp
they are splitted the same way looking like a mixer
so it seems he just plain cashed out them...

[kuusj98]

Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0

Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said...

[qurashee]

Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0

Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said...

Well there's no reason to get frustrated. We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time, plus this online shop didn't exist. If it existed in the first place, people wouldn't have to resort to group orders at that extent.

[kuusj98]

Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0

Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said...

Well there's no reason to get frustrated. We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time, plus this online shop didn't exist. If it existed in the first place, people wouldn't have to resort to group orders at that extent.

exactly 

Hmm, true, but still, if you think of it, the price drop of these things is gigantic...

[qurashee]

Guys, pffffff, this just totally made me break my keyboard: (Well, I hit it so hard the C is broken, had anotherone lying around)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263893.0

Why the FUCK did we even order the pieces of shit of vdragon, we knew I would take a few more weeks then he said...

Well there's no reason to get frustrated. We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time, plus this online shop didn't exist. If it existed in the first place, people wouldn't have to resort to group orders at that extent.

exactly 

Hmm, true, but still, if you think of it, the price drop of these things is gigantic...

Well if we want to be fair that makes sense too. The difficulty is rising like crazy, so in order to break even, you have to spend a lot of time. Dropping the prices is the only way for this miner to stay competitive.

[Xer0]

We didn't know that the price was going to drop at that time

yep. i just panic-sold all my erupters on eBay, cause i can now get twice of them for the price