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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: b!z on September 04, 2013, 01:34:43 PM



Title: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 04, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
xDeathwing: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111872
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284167.0

In the above topic, an application to automatically visit bitcoin faucets is advertised.

Staff member xDeathwing offers to pay for the following proof:
Make a video, download it from your link, upload it to virustotal and try it, if it works I'll give you 0.05 BTC.

The video proof has been provided by the OP, but he has not received any payment from xDeathwing. All payments to his address are micro transactions from faucets: https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

I have also shown the OP how to verify hashes on VirusTotal to confirm that the file is actually the one uploaded to the site. I did not receive any payment for this (although I do believe the OP deserves it more).

Carlos L. claims that xDeathwing originally offered to pay 0.5 BTC (not 0.05 BTC), and he later edited his post in the hopes that nobody would notice (I did not see the 0.5 BTC offer, maybe a mod can see if it was edited if possible?):

It's actually 0.50 BTC, he edited his post... Probably thought no one would notice lol

I sent xDeathwing a private message concerning payment to the OP a few days ago:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284167.20

Did you pay the OP the 0.05 BTC you promised to yet?

No, will pay tomorrow.

It has been several days, and the OP has not received any payment still. I suggest action to be taken against this member. Staff should not be exempt from forum rules.


Title: Re: Staff member xDeathwing fails to deliver on a 0.05/0.5 BTC bet as promised.
Post by: ingrownpocket on September 04, 2013, 01:42:15 PM
Carlos L. claims that xDeathwing originally offered to pay 0.5 BTC (not 0.05 BTC), and he later edited his post in the hopes that nobody would notice (I did not see the 0.5 BTC offer, maybe a mod can see if it was edited if possible?):

It's actually 0.50 BTC, he edited his post... Probably thought no one would notice lol


He edited (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284167.msg3041077#msg3041077) his post a few minutes after OP posted the video:

https://i.imgur.com/LaydW1b.png


OP post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284167.msg3041458#msg3041458) with video:

https://i.imgur.com/7timh06.png


Title: Re: Staff member xDeathwing fails to deliver on a 0.05/0.5 BTC bet as promised.
Post by: b!z on September 04, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
Thanks Carlos L.


Title: Re: Staff member xDeathwing fails to deliver on a 0.05/0.5 BTC bet as promised.
Post by: b!z on September 05, 2013, 12:27:06 AM
Can we get a scammer tag on this guy?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on September 06, 2013, 09:47:46 AM
bump


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 06, 2013, 11:52:40 PM
Wow... <-Just for a bump...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 12:13:16 AM
Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 12:21:59 AM
Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.

Here is the thing. If it was a mistake, he would edit as soon as he posted it, BUT NO. He changed it AFTER the OP posted the video.... Seems like a scam to me...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.

Here is the thing. If it was a mistake, he would edit as soon as he posted it, BUT NO. He changed it AFTER the OP posted the video.... Seems like a scam to me...

I agree, it doesn't look good at this point, however they could have edited that post 20 times, the first time 5 seconds after they posted to correct the amount, and then again to clarify wording etc etc. I'm hoping when xDeathwing gets on, they either pay the debt if they are in the wrong, or clarifies if it was a mistake.

My rationale is that .5 BTC hopefully isn't enough for a Staff member to scam over, and it could be a mistake, however I could be wrong.  :-[

Neither Theymos or XDeathwing are on at the moment, so I wouldn't expect any quick response.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 12:39:14 AM
Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.

Here is the thing. If it was a mistake, he would edit as soon as he posted it, BUT NO. He changed it AFTER the OP posted the video.... Seems like a scam to me...

I agree, it doesn't look good at this point, however they could have edited that post 20 times, the first time 5 seconds after they posted to correct the amount, and then again to clarify wording etc etc. I'm hoping when xDeathwing gets on, they either pay the debt if they are in the wrong, or clarifies if it was a mistake.

My rationale is that .5 BTC hopefully isn't enough for a Staff member to scam over, and it could be a mistake, however I could be wrong.  :-[

Neither Theymos or XDeathwing are on at the moment, so I wouldn't expect any quick response.

Yep... Like everyone said, just email Theymos and ask for a SCREENSHOT of the edits, because Theymos might try to get XDeathWing out of it. IDK, but im just saying...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 12:48:49 AM
Yep... Like everyone said, just email Theymos and ask for a SCREENSHOT of the edits, because Theymos might try to get XDeathWing out of it. IDK, but im just saying...

I highly doubt that Theymos would bail out any Staff member. Why would you trust a confirmed scammer with taking care of your forums? If anything, he would hurry the process along. Again however, we are jumping the gun a little. Its hardly a scam accusation until the accused as a chance to reply.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 01:01:55 AM
Yep... Like everyone said, just email Theymos and ask for a SCREENSHOT of the edits, because Theymos might try to get XDeathWing out of it. IDK, but im just saying...

I highly doubt that Theymos would bail out any Staff member. Why would you trust a confirmed scammer with taking care of your forums? If anything, he would hurry the process along. Again however, we are jumping the gun a little. Its hardly a scam accusation until the accused as a chance to reply.

Yes... Has anyone actually pm'ed Theymos about this?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 01:04:30 AM
Yes... Has anyone actually pm'ed Theymos about this?

Yes, I pmed Theymos and XDeathwing about this thread as soon I saw it.

But that's circumstantial evidence. It doesn't directly prove that xDeathwing's post said 0.5 BTC.

Yeah, it will be best when there are both sides of the story. XDeathwing could have said .5BTC, edited it shortly after, and then made another edit later, etc. The point is, we wont know what the edit was about until XDeathwing, or Theymos confirms it.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kouye on September 07, 2013, 01:06:19 AM
But that's circumstantial evidence. It doesn't directly prove that xDeathwing's post said 0.5 BTC.

Which does not atone for his failed promise to send (edited) 0.05BTC.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 01:07:33 AM
But that's circumstantial evidence. It doesn't directly prove that xDeathwing's post said 0.5 BTC.

Which does not atone for his failed promise to send (edited) 0.05BTC.


True, he should have at least payed the 0.05 BTC which would have gotten him out of this issue with a little bit of suspicion...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 07, 2013, 01:07:56 AM
Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.

Here is the thing. If it was a mistake, he would edit as soon as he posted it, BUT NO. He changed it AFTER the OP posted the video.... Seems like a scam to me...
But that's circumstantial evidence. It doesn't directly prove that xDeathwing's post said "0.5 BTC" in his post.

The only other supporting proof is testimony from Carlos L. and sitnicki. Not exactly solid case. b!z, I suggest you remove "xDeathwing is a scammer" from your signature as it's exactly conclusive that he's a scammer.

edit: see crossed out section for edit details

I will agree that xDeathwing is a scammer if he does not pay sitnicki 0.05 BTC within a reasonable timeframe. I do not think there is enough evidence to conclude that xDeathwing's offer said "0.5 BTC" at any time from August 30, 2013, 03:35:21 AM to August 30, 2013, 05:20:01 AM. Therefore I do not think xDeathwing is liable to pay 0.5 BTC.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Gordon Bleu on September 07, 2013, 01:09:30 AM
8.35 post

10.07 video posted
10.20 edited


This doesn't look like a Typo


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 07, 2013, 01:09:31 AM
But that's circumstantial evidence. It doesn't directly prove that xDeathwing's post said 0.5 BTC.

Which does not atone for his failed promise to send (edited) 0.05BTC.
wait what? did xDeathwing send any bitcoins at all?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kluge on September 07, 2013, 01:13:34 AM
... Is xDeathwing a sock?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 01:16:14 AM
But that's circumstantial evidence. It doesn't directly prove that xDeathwing's post said 0.5 BTC.

Which does not atone for his failed promise to send (edited) 0.05BTC.
wait what? did xDeathwing send any bitcoins at all?

No, the OP (B!Z) said that he had pm'ed xDeathwing and he said that he would send it "tomorrow" but never sent it...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: gweedo on September 07, 2013, 01:20:00 AM
How is someone here for less than 6 months a staff member?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 01:21:46 AM
How is someone here for less than 6 months a staff member?

Might know the owner?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 07, 2013, 01:23:26 AM
... Is xDeathwing a sock?
How is someone here for less than 6 months a staff member?
how is any of this related to xDeathwing's scam accusation?

wait what? did xDeathwing send any bitcoins at all?

No, the OP (B!Z) said that he had pm'ed xDeathwing and he said that he would send it "tomorrow" but never sent it...
Thank you for clarification


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 01:43:03 AM
Cause he is very young account time and being staff without proving themselves can be used to scam just like in this case. People could think he is validated as a good member cause of the staff tag.

Well, assuming XDeathwing is guilty of owing the .50 BTC, it was essentially a bounty. Its not often that people put bounties into escrow or anything, so had XDeathwing not been staff, it would be the same situation, someone who reneged on a bounty.

As for how long XDeathwing was a member, they are a local mod on the Turkish Board. If they speak Turkish and reported a lot of posts accurately they could have got the position. However, you are right the staff tag does give a bit of credibility just because of the title, the same way that hero member used to. But I don't think going back on your promise about a bounty is something that people do intentionally if they have something to lose, so I'll be watching for progress when XDeathwing logs on.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 01:51:45 AM
I love the fact that my bump made this popular... I hope this gets resolved... Hey, when xDeath gets on lets all spam him... <-JK (dont do that :P)s


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kluge on September 07, 2013, 03:05:23 AM
... Is xDeathwing a sock?
How is someone here for less than 6 months a staff member?
how is any of this related to xDeathwing's scam accusation?
Just happened to look at his post history from this thread and noticed he almost never posts more than a sentence. If a sock, it'd be useful to know the other account. I figured it might be possible someone has that info, so just threw it out there. It's arguably off-topic, so I wouldn't fuss at all about it being removed. It'd make me consider you a little more suspicious, though.  :P


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 07, 2013, 03:57:32 AM
I am very actually surprised that a staff member would scam over 0.05 (or 0.5 BTC). I previously believed there was some sort of background check before hiring a new staff member.

The post where he promised to send 0.05 BTC, as well as the "i will send it tomorrow" are more than enough proof that he should be labeled as a scammer.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 04:53:36 AM
I am very actually surprised that a staff member would scam over 0.05 (or 0.5 BTC). I previously believed there was some sort of background check before hiring a new staff member.

The post where he promised to send 0.05 BTC, as well as the "i will send it tomorrow" are more than enough proof that he should be labeled as a scammer.

There isn't a formal process, but of course, if you have had past issues, your chances of becoming staff are slim. Also, my sentiments exactly, which in the face of uncertainty, leads me to believe this is probably a misunderstanding. If a staff member wanted to pull a scam, I'm sure they could do better than not following through on a .50 or .05 BTC promise. Which is why I'm having a hard time believing that XDeathwing intentionally scammed anyone out of $6 or $60. Either way, their reputation is worth more than that.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 07, 2013, 05:09:00 AM
The first one i wrote was a joke(actually a keyboard slip but lets say joke) (0.5 BTC One edited after that.) then i took it serious and changed it to 0.05. I know b!z sent me a PM and i answered him, i told him I'll pay tomorrow but i completely forgot that, so my fault.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 07, 2013, 05:14:22 AM
And i don't see a "SCAM" in this situation, there is no item or anything transfered...

I just told that i can give BTC. It's not a emergency "MUST DO OR DIE" situation.

Edit: I said i'll pay tomorrow i do want to pay, a friend was going to send coins he owe me but he didn't and i was out of coins. (Well, still out of coins.)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 07, 2013, 07:01:17 AM
And i don't see a "SCAM" in this situation, there is no item or anything transfered...

I just told that i can give BTC. It's not a emergency "MUST DO OR DIE" situation.

Edit: I said i'll pay tomorrow i do want to pay, a friend was going to send coins he owe me but he didn't and i was out of coins. (Well, still out of coins.)

The "item transferred" was the video. You offered to pay for his time, and you wasted his time.
You should not make jokes and make people do work for you. If you said you were going to pay x BTC for logo design, or an exchange, would you call it a joke after they delivered to you?

When do you plan on paying the owed bitcoins?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 07, 2013, 07:24:25 AM
And i don't see a "SCAM" in this situation, there is no item or anything transfered...

I just told that i can give BTC. It's not a emergency "MUST DO OR DIE" situation.

Edit: I said i'll pay tomorrow i do want to pay, a friend was going to send coins he owe me but he didn't and i was out of coins. (Well, still out of coins.)

The "item transferred" was the video. You offered to pay for his time, and you wasted his time.
You should not make jokes and make people do work for you. If you said you were going to pay x BTC for logo design, or an exchange, would you call it a joke after they delivered to you?

When do you plan on paying the owed bitcoins?

The only fair solution is to pay 0.5 btc (<--- Thats a lot...), because like B!Z said, you wasted his time. Just to let you know XDeathWing, most people usually say "jk" when they are trying to say a joke, just so that they dont get into trouble like this...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Stunna on September 07, 2013, 08:14:25 AM
The first one i wrote was a joke (0.5 BTC One edited after that.) then i took it serious and changed it to 0.05. I know b!z sent me a PM and i answered him, i told him I'll pay tomorrow but i completely forgot that, so my fault.

Why would you even offer a joke amount in the first place? How this guy is even a staff member despite making consistently un-constructive posts and being such a young member is also a mystery. You should make this right and pay them out the amount they were promised, there is no such thing as a "joke" during transactions on this forum. Matt N Wright said his bets on the legitimacy of pirate were a "joke" and he got tagged with untrustworthy, perhaps you should have the same done to you if this is not remedied asap.


And i don't see a "SCAM" in this situation, there is no item or anything transfered...

I just told that i can give BTC. It's not a emergency "MUST DO OR DIE" situation.

Edit: I said i'll pay tomorrow i do want to pay, a friend was going to send coins he owe me but he didn't and i was out of coins. (Well, still out of coins.)

You honestly just admitted that you scammed just off that first sentence. Nothing has to be transferred to make the situation a scam, that's like saying if I offer a guy 50BTC to do some graphics for me and then don't pay him it's not a scam. Time is just as valuable as money if not more so. Quoted this for future reference.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: favdesu on September 07, 2013, 10:01:04 AM
I'm not too surprised about this.

deathwing seems to be a very young user.

also, he used to beg and drama all day on coinchat, ran an empty faucet and so on.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 07, 2013, 01:16:13 PM
The first one i wrote was a joke (0.5 BTC One edited after that.) then i took it serious and changed it to 0.05. I know b!z sent me a PM and i answered him, i told him I'll pay tomorrow but i completely forgot that, so my fault.
You made an offer to pay sitnicki 0.5 btc if he made a video and virus scan. sitnicki delivered before you modified your offer. You made no indication in the offer that it was a joke. That's breach of contract and would make you a scammer.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: marcovaldo on September 07, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
sitnicki was the guy who posted the thread, with a software that was said to give free btc.
As it seemed fishy, xDeath offered 0.5 btc if someone accepted to download the software, run it, and upload a proof.

When sitnicki did it, he though that it might be too much, and edited his post to 0.05 btc.



I think that he intended to give the bounty to anyone, but not sitnicki.
Indeed, if the software is a keylogger, sitnicki who posted it, does not give a shit about being keylogged by himself.
It was not risky for him, like it could have been for someone else.

People thinks that "you" was intended to sitnicki - but it could mean "you" = anyone but him.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: EFS on September 07, 2013, 04:59:57 PM
Sad to see that. I don't wanna say something bad to my young Turkish fella.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on September 07, 2013, 05:01:34 PM
sitnicki was the guy who posted the thread, with a software that was said to give free btc.
As it seemed fishy, xDeath offered 0.5 btc if someone accepted to download the software, run it, and upload a proof.

When sitnicki did it, he though that it might be too much, and edited his post to 0.05 btc.



I think that he intended to give the bounty to anyone, but not sitnicki.
Indeed, if the software is a keylogger, sitnicki who posted it, does not give a shit about being keylogged by himself.
It was not risky for him, like it could have been for someone else.

People thinks that "you" was intended to sitnicki - but it could mean "you" = anyone but him.
The purpose of making a video was to show the result from that virus scan.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 07, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
You made an offer to pay sitnicki 0.5 btc if he made a video and virus scan. sitnicki delivered before you modified your offer. You made no indication in the offer that it was a joke. That's breach of contract and would make you a scammer.

Agreed, whether it was supposed to be a joke or not, you made the mistake of not writing something obvious saying it was a joke, (just kidding, etc). You've gotta pay up on it, or the scammer claim is valid.

Edit: I said i'll pay tomorrow i do want to pay, a friend was going to send coins he owe me but he didn't and i was out of coins. (Well, still out of coins.)

You should probably contact sitnicki and tell them that you are waiting on coins from a friend, and give them a reasonable payback date.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 07, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
I'll contact the program creator and pay his bitcoins(as soon as i can, cause i don't have bitcoins.)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kouye on September 07, 2013, 05:56:47 PM
I'll contact the program creator and pay his bitcoins(as soon as i can, cause i don't have bitcoins.)

Check the loan sub, there are two 0% offers going (Stunna's and Tomatocage's).


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 07, 2013, 07:41:35 PM
I'll contact the program creator and pay his bitcoins(as soon as i can, cause i don't have bitcoins.)
so are you paying sitnicki 0.05 BTC or 0.5 BTC? You'll still be in hot water if you only paid 0.05 BTC, unless you came to an agreement with sitnicki to void the debt.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: malevolent on September 07, 2013, 08:11:53 PM
xDeathwing, please pay up...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: theymos on September 08, 2013, 03:30:22 AM
Not enough time has passed for me to conclude anything.

Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.

There is no edit history. I can sometimes use database backups to get the original post, but backups are done only daily, and this is a big hassle.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 08, 2013, 03:32:30 AM
Not enough time has passed for me to conclude anything.

Has anyone talked to Theymos about it? He could check what the message was pre edit. For 0.5BTC, I'd hope it is a mistake rather than a scam.

There is no edit history. I can sometimes use database backups to get the original post, but backups are done only daily, and this is a big hassle.

Then plz try looking it up, or just tell xDeathwing to pay it! (or he should get a scammer tag)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 08, 2013, 03:36:13 AM
Then plz try looking it up, or just tell xDeathwing to pay it! (or he should get a scammer tag)

Well, XDeathwing has essentially said they did have .50BTC in their original post and do intend to pay it, as soon as they get coins. Now its just a matter of XDeathwing stepping up, figuring out a reasonable repayment date, and making ammends for the mistake. People make mistakes, its how they handle them that is important.

There is no edit history. I can sometimes use database backups to get the original post, but backups are done only daily, and this is a big hassle.

Hmm, didn't know that.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 08, 2013, 03:38:08 AM
I'll contact the program creator and pay his bitcoins(as soon as i can, cause i don't have bitcoins.)

Check the loan sub, there are two 0% offers going (Stunna's and Tomatocage's).

That is.. if anyone wants to lend him money ;)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Stunna on September 08, 2013, 04:14:16 AM
I'll contact the program creator and pay his bitcoins(as soon as i can, cause i don't have bitcoins.)

Check the loan sub, there are two 0% offers going (Stunna's and Tomatocage's).

That is.. if anyone wants to lend him money ;)

I'm willing to do the loan provided I pay it directly to whoever is owed the btc. Term would probably be a week. Deathwing can send me a PM if interested.


Those of you asking about Edit history, as mentioned before on this thread deathwing confirmed that he originally offered .5 as a "joke"


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: sevenVII on September 08, 2013, 04:28:15 AM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 08, 2013, 05:53:07 AM
xDeathwing could have theymos take it out of his pay for being mod on the Turkish section. Surely, he's getting some compensation given that Turkey is a difficult language and all.

xD was quoted prior to the change:

Make a video, download it from your link, upload it to virustotal and try it, if it works I'll give you 0.5 BTC.

Here and film - http://youtu.be/ArDIYrFCxYE
Be honorable and promised to give me 0.5 BTC

1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

But, for the life of me I can't figure out how the quote was changed.

Make a video, download it from your link, upload it to virustotal and try it, if it works I'll give you 0.05 BTC.

Here and film - http://youtu.be/ArDIYrFCxYE
Be honorable and promised to give me 0.5 BTC

1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

I see that payment is not actual its from yesterday, come again tomorrow and we'll check.


Please check payment  http://www.coinbox.me/?a=1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

30 Aug 2013 1:57:02 PM UTC   a47f9a0ca8b82a1702758ba084eca6d1009d2284c69a730dc934616f635ab11c   0.00060500

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR


Be honorable and promised to give me 0.5 BTC

1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

sitnicki wouldn't have changed it.

EDIT: I see now who changed the quote. Well played! Oops!


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 08, 2013, 06:09:48 AM
Make a video, download it from your link, upload it to virustotal and try it, if it works I'll give you 0.05 BTC.

Here and film - http://youtu.be/ArDIYrFCxYE
Be honorable and promised to give me 0.5 BTC

1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

I see that payment is not actual its from yesterday, come again tomorrow and we'll check.

18 seconds after posting the above and changing the 0.5 to 0.05, xD altered the OP.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 08, 2013, 06:58:03 AM
Make a video, download it from your link, upload it to virustotal and try it, if it works I'll give you 0.05 BTC.

Here and film - http://youtu.be/ArDIYrFCxYE
Be honorable and promised to give me 0.5 BTC

1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR

I see that payment is not actual its from yesterday, come again tomorrow and we'll check.

18 seconds after posting the above and changing the 0.5 to 0.05, xD altered the OP.

Well the timing is sometimes not good, I didn't saw the video posted, i wasn't refreshing the page.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 08, 2013, 06:59:57 AM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: monbux on September 08, 2013, 11:55:11 AM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.

Who cares it was way back?  You still did it, now you're at it again.  You're not a scammer, but as a mod, you handle situations horribly.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: xanto on September 08, 2013, 03:50:25 PM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.

It was NOT closed, you still owe me money!

xDeathwing also owes me 0.0165 BTC, which should have been paid back the 7th August and it should be added 0.005 BTC as a fee for every week that passed after that. He now owes me 0.0415 BTC.

No contact what so ever telling me the progress or anything like that, but the loan will be getting higher and higher, If I don't get them, I'll send him a negative reputation.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 08, 2013, 06:58:21 PM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.

It was NOT closed, you still owe me money!

xDeathwing also owes me 0.0165 BTC, which should have been paid back the 7th August and it should be added 0.005 BTC as a fee for every week that passed after that. He now owes me 0.0415 BTC.

No contact what so ever telling me the progress or anything like that, but the loan will be getting higher and higher, If I don't get them, I'll send him a negative reputation.

And, who are you?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 08, 2013, 07:02:23 PM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.

It was NOT closed, you still owe me money!

xDeathwing also owes me 0.0165 BTC, which should have been paid back the 7th August and it should be added 0.005 BTC as a fee for every week that passed after that. He now owes me 0.0415 BTC.

No contact what so ever telling me the progress or anything like that, but the loan will be getting higher and higher, If I don't get them, I'll send him a negative reputation.

And, who are you?

I think he is "fontas" from here: http://puu.sh/4mnWM.png


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: monbux on September 08, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.

It was NOT closed, you still owe me money!

xDeathwing also owes me 0.0165 BTC, which should have been paid back the 7th August and it should be added 0.005 BTC as a fee for every week that passed after that. He now owes me 0.0415 BTC.

No contact what so ever telling me the progress or anything like that, but the loan will be getting higher and higher, If I don't get them, I'll send him a negative reputation.

And, who are you?

He is fontas... and now you have 2 claims against you, Yet you have failed to provide proof of innocence for both... Show us the TXIDs for fontas and this guy :)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 08, 2013, 08:35:20 PM
He is fontas... and now you have 2 claims against you, Yet you have failed to provide proof of innocence for both... Show us the TXIDs for fontas and this guy :)
what happened to innocent until proven guilty?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 08, 2013, 08:54:48 PM
He is fontas... and now you have 2 claims against you, Yet you have failed to provide proof of innocence for both... Show us the TXIDs for fontas and this guy :)
what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

He has been proven guilty and also he indirectly admitted it... IDK about the second claim tho...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: monbux on September 08, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
He is fontas... and now you have 2 claims against you, Yet you have failed to provide proof of innocence for both... Show us the TXIDs for fontas and this guy :)
what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Well, we have a few witnesses, and their testimonial provided the proof we need.  xDeathwing has not yet gone his way to prove anything :/  And currently he has not proven to have sent proof to either of the people


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 08, 2013, 11:03:45 PM
Well, we have a few witnesses, and their testimonial provided the proof we need.  xDeathwing has not yet gone his way to prove anything :/  And currently he has not proven to have sent proof to either of the people
The only definitive proof for xDeathwing owing 0.5 BTC to sitnicki rather than 0.05 BTC is quotes from sitnicki and Carlos L. However, this may not be an issue because xDeathwing appears to have admitted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3099260#msg3099260) that he changed the offer from 0.5 to 0.05. As far as this matter is concerned, xDeathwing is in breach of contract if he does not pay sitnicki soon. xDeathwing did not state when the bitcoins will be paid, but it has to be done in a reasonable timeframe.

As for this accusation:
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.
No one has linked to any proof for this accusation. Contrary to popular belief, a bunch of angry people holding pitchforks isn't enough evidence.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 09, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
xDeathwing, please inform sitnicki about repayment in a reasonable timeframe. :-)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: xanto on September 09, 2013, 02:13:43 PM
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

That thing closed waaay back.

It was NOT closed, you still owe me money!

xDeathwing also owes me 0.0165 BTC, which should have been paid back the 7th August and it should be added 0.005 BTC as a fee for every week that passed after that. He now owes me 0.0415 BTC.

No contact what so ever telling me the progress or anything like that, but the loan will be getting higher and higher, If I don't get them, I'll send him a negative reputation.

And, who are you?

I think he is "fontas" from here: http://puu.sh/4mnWM.png

Correct, I go under the username "fontas" on coinchat. I'm still waiting for the payment.

As for this accusation:
He's pulled suspicious crap on coinchat as well.. Asked the user "fontas" to lend him a certain amount with the promise it would be paid by a specific date and I recall fontas telling the mods that there wasn't any payment on the agreed upon deadline.

No one has linked to any proof for this accusation. Contrary to popular belief, a bunch of angry people holding pitchforks isn't enough evidence.

Here's the TX.
https://i.imgur.com/Frgni2e.png


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 09, 2013, 07:38:22 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on September 09, 2013, 07:43:25 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 09, 2013, 08:12:01 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.

I am not going to pay 0.5.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Tsukene on September 09, 2013, 08:22:57 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.

I am not going to pay 0.5.

And this guy represents Bitcointalk?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 09, 2013, 09:02:38 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.

I am not going to pay 0.5.

And this guy represents Bitcointalk?

Dude you need to pay up since you offered 0.5 originally..


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Tsukene on September 09, 2013, 09:05:07 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.

I am not going to pay 0.5.

And this guy represents Bitcointalk?

Dude you need to pay up since you offered 0.5 originally..

+1


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: EFS on September 09, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
This thread is very bad for the BitcoinTalk reputation. Please solve this asap.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on September 09, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.

I am not going to pay 0.5.
Have you talked to him? To get to an agreement? You should.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 09, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/25i0mix.png

https://blockchain.info/address/1NRNYQr6WZXFyAsMz5pyieLnLN6goK8sCR
You got your numbers confused. It's 0.50, not 0.05.

I am not going to pay 0.5.
Have you talked to him? To get to an agreement? You should.

PM'd didnt get any answer.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kouye on September 09, 2013, 10:31:45 PM
PM'd didnt get any answer.
This is not the core issue.
If you said you would send 0.5 - as a joke - then you gotta send 0.5, unless you wanna be scammer-taged.
This was the rule for untrustworthy mods, last time I checked.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kluge on September 09, 2013, 10:42:49 PM
The .45 balance can be paid off by using the FreeBitCoin application only 1286 more time (~18k Captchas solved, ~643 hours of continuous use). Thus, it could be paid off in less than a month unless you sleep.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 01:23:31 AM
As i said, 0.5 was a keyboard slip, then i made it joke.

0.05 is paid.



Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: dannyjr89 on September 10, 2013, 02:04:48 AM
Forget the scammer tag, this guy needs banned.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 10, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
Forget the scammer tag, this guy needs banned.

Really i think you do cuz ur selling accounts... ;)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: dannyjr89 on September 10, 2013, 02:15:58 AM
No, I didn't break any rules. This guy did, he's a thief.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 10, 2013, 02:17:25 AM
No, I didn't break any rules. This guy did, he's a thief.

It was a joke, and thats a little too harsh. I was thinking of a scammer tag, and sent back to newbie


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 10, 2013, 02:17:36 AM
As i said, 0.5 was a keyboard slip, then i made it joke.

0.05 is paid.


if the .50 BTC keyboard slip wasnt fixed by the time the guy made the video that you placed the bounty on, it is your responsibility to pay that .50 BTC. We are assuming you edited the amount from .50 to .05 After the video was made, as your edit says it was after that time.

Sitniki posted the video at 6:07 am (EST) You edited your bounty post at 6:20 (EST) 13 minues later, which leads us to believe you edited the amount, after they had already created the video. If it was a keyboard slip, why did you not edit it to .05 BTC within seconds, or even minutes of posting?

Its still a bit premature for people asking for the Scammer tag for XDeathwing, we are still getting details, and things are actively being explained and worked out. Either everything will come out and be resolved, or I'm assuming reprocussions will happen.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: grue on September 10, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
xDeathwing obviously isn't going pay $60 to sitnicki. As it stands, xDeathwing may get a scammer tag and sitnicki only got 10% of what he was owed.  But if the two can negotiate an amount that xDeathwing can pay, and sitnicki is happy with, and they'll both end up in a better position.

As i said, 0.5 was a keyboard slip, then i made it joke.
That's a pretty lame excuse. Imagine if BFL/Avalon said "delivery on December 2013 or your money back!", but later changed it to December 2016 and claimed it was a "typo".


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 10, 2013, 03:09:23 AM
xDeathwing obviously isn't going pay $60 to sitnicki. As it stands, xDeathwing may get a scammer tag and sitnicki only got 10% of what he was owed.  But if the two can negotiate an amount that xDeathwing can pay, and sitnicki is happy with, and they'll both end up in a better position.

As i said, 0.5 was a keyboard slip, then i made it joke.
That's a pretty lame excuse. Imagine if BFL/Avalon said "delivery on December 2013 or your money back!", but later changed it to December 2016 and claimed it was a "typo".

XDeathWing why dont you just send another 0.2. In my eyes that should make some-what fair (not really) and also that software he made is AMAZING... (<-- I think your moderator status should be taken away from this)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on September 10, 2013, 03:52:11 AM
As i said, 0.5 was a keyboard slip, then i made it joke.
That's a pretty lame excuse. Imagine if BFL/Avalon said "delivery on December 2013 or your money back!", but later changed it to December 2016 and claimed it was a "typo".


More like "Buying 1 BTC for $1174.2".


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: TECSHARE on September 10, 2013, 03:52:47 AM
Why not demod him? Clearly he can not handle even the smallest amount of responsibility.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 04:08:05 AM
No, I didn't break any rules. This guy did, he's a thief.

Do you even read the thread?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 10, 2013, 04:30:26 AM
No, I didn't break any rules. This guy did, he's a thief.

Do you even read the thread?

Yes, you didn't steal anything, but you aren't giving what you owe...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 10, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
You know what I find most interesting about this whole thing...

None of the people posting here are at any loss, sitnicki the one who is being "scammed" hasn't even posted here yet.
If sitnicki truly felt scammed by the situation would he not be over here making his case?

It just looks to me like a bunch of people trying to cause trouble over here.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 10, 2013, 05:43:51 AM
You know what I find most interesting about this whole thing...

None of the people posting here are at any loss, sitnicki the one who is being "scammed" hasn't even posted here yet.
If sitnicki truly felt scammed by the situation would he not be over here making his case?

It just looks to me like a bunch of people trying to cause trouble over here.
would you like me to pm him and get him involved? The big fact is that a moderator did not keep his word and that is big since this is a very popular forum...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: TheWizzerd on September 10, 2013, 05:53:03 AM
scam
skam/Submit
nouninformal
1.
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
"an insurance scam"
synonyms:   fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick; More
verb
verb: scam; 3rd person present: scams; past tense: scammed; past participle: scammed; gerund or present participle: scamming
1.
swindle.
"a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings"
synonyms:   swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More

___________

bluff1
bləf/Submit
noun
1.
an attempt to deceive someone into believing that one can or will do something.
"the offer was denounced as a bluff"
synonyms:   deception, front, subterfuge, pretense, posturing, sham, fake, deceit, feint, hoax, facade, fraud, charade; More
verb
verb: bluff; 3rd person present: bluffs; past tense: bluffed; past participle: bluffed; gerund or present participle: bluffing
1.
try to deceive someone as to one's abilities or intentions.
"he's been bluffing all along"
synonyms:   pretend, sham, fake, feign, lie, hoax, pose, posture, masquerade, dissemble More
deceive, delude, mislead, trick, fool, hoodwink, dupe, hoax, beguile, gull;
informalcon, kid

It's obvious which category Deathwing falls under... Certainly not a scammer. We've all been guilty of his situation.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 10, 2013, 05:53:23 AM
You know what I find most interesting about this whole thing...

None of the people posting here are at any loss, sitnicki the one who is being "scammed" hasn't even posted here yet.
If sitnicki truly felt scammed by the situation would he not be over here making his case?

It just looks to me like a bunch of people trying to cause trouble over here.
would you like me to pm him and get him involved? The big fact is that a moderator did not keep his word and that is big since this is a very popular forum...
Sending him a pm is simply pushing him to come over and complain with the promise of bitcoins or helping demote/scamtag an admin

He will proactively seek the cause if  he feels it justified.


And seriously how can anyone expect to be paid $60 for 5 minutes work? Even $5 for 5 minutes is $60/hr whereas $60 for 5 minutes is $740/hr


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 10, 2013, 05:54:50 AM
scam
skam/Submit
nouninformal
1.
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
"an insurance scam"
synonyms:   fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick; More
verb
verb: scam; 3rd person present: scams; past tense: scammed; past participle: scammed; gerund or present participle: scamming
1.
swindle.
"a guy that scams the elderly out of their savings"
synonyms:   swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More

___________

bluff1
bləf/Submit
noun
1.
an attempt to deceive someone into believing that one can or will do something.
"the offer was denounced as a bluff"
synonyms:   deception, front, subterfuge, pretense, posturing, sham, fake, deceit, feint, hoax, facade, fraud, charade; More
verb
verb: bluff; 3rd person present: bluffs; past tense: bluffed; past participle: bluffed; gerund or present participle: bluffing
1.
try to deceive someone as to one's abilities or intentions.
"he's been bluffing all along"
synonyms:   pretend, sham, fake, feign, lie, hoax, pose, posture, masquerade, dissemble More
deceive, delude, mislead, trick, fool, hoodwink, dupe, hoax, beguile, gull;
informalcon, kid

It's obvious which category Deathwing falls under... Certainly not a scammer. We've all been guilty of his situation.
Yes!

"Scam" and "Ponzi Scheme" ate both abused in this community, sadly.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: favdesu on September 10, 2013, 06:06:52 AM
Quote
synonyms:   swindle, cheat, deceive, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull; More

thanks for pointing it out.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: TheWizzerd on September 10, 2013, 06:13:35 AM
Well, I do not see a 'Swindler's Accusation's' board, nor a 'Deceptionist Accusation's' board. So, it still stands. He did not scam. Merely got caught on a bluff, or, had the worst typo he could have had on a board that deals with digital currency.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: xanto on September 10, 2013, 06:24:55 AM
xDeathwing, when will I get my money back?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 07:08:30 AM
xDeathwing, when will I get my money back?

If you are fontas, I pm'ed you a lot of times in CoinChat, please answer.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Dabs on September 10, 2013, 07:29:13 AM
Aren't jokes half meant? So half of 0.5 is 0.25.

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be taken against you.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Justin00 on September 10, 2013, 07:49:20 AM
wow the mods here are getting pretty desperate..
at least do what half the mods did before you and run some retard "company" into the ground after taking $10000000's from users on the forum, i mean investors.




Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 08:27:09 AM
Payment to xento(aka fontas)

http://i39.tinypic.com/5fgjcz.png


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 10, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
You know what I find most interesting about this whole thing...

None of the people posting here are at any loss, sitnicki the one who is being "scammed" hasn't even posted here yet.
If sitnicki truly felt scammed by the situation would he not be over here making his case?

It just looks to me like a bunch of people trying to cause trouble over here.
would you like me to pm him and get him involved? The big fact is that a moderator did not keep his word and that is big since this is a very popular forum...
Sending him a pm is simply pushing him to come over and complain with the promise of bitcoins or helping demote/scamtag an admin

He will proactively seek the cause if  he feels it justified.


And seriously how can anyone expect to be paid $60 for 5 minutes work? Even $5 for 5 minutes is $60/hr whereas $60 for 5 minutes is $740/hr

Are you trying to say that xDeathwing has not misled anybody, just because you think his offer was unreasonable?

Payment to xento(aka fontas)

http://i39.tinypic.com/5fgjcz.png

Because the information on the blockchain is a big secret... right? https://blockchain.info/tx/dea395e5f3d37bd2e39fcaaf5808c6ebc4e9ec54e55ace4e6644881e33cfd765


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: greyhawk on September 10, 2013, 12:48:19 PM
IMO, accused should be unstaffed and get the untrustworthy tag. The situation is very much analogous to the Matt Wright case what with the "it was just a joke" defense and all and thus the taken measures should also be analogous.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: xanto on September 10, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
Thank you for paying it back, this could be avoided if you just paid it back on the deadline.

But I wouldn't recommend you when handling money.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 10, 2013, 01:38:05 PM
IMO, accused should be unstaffed and get the untrustworthy tag. The situation is very much analogous to the Matt Wright case what with the "it was just a joke" defense and all and thus the taken measures should also be analogous.

I agree with this. Untrustworthy tag for him.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 07:41:07 PM
You know what I find most interesting about this whole thing...

None of the people posting here are at any loss, sitnicki the one who is being "scammed" hasn't even posted here yet.
If sitnicki truly felt scammed by the situation would he not be over here making his case?

It just looks to me like a bunch of people trying to cause trouble over here.
would you like me to pm him and get him involved? The big fact is that a moderator did not keep his word and that is big since this is a very popular forum...
Sending him a pm is simply pushing him to come over and complain with the promise of bitcoins or helping demote/scamtag an admin

He will proactively seek the cause if  he feels it justified.


And seriously how can anyone expect to be paid $60 for 5 minutes work? Even $5 for 5 minutes is $60/hr whereas $60 for 5 minutes is $740/hr

Are you trying to say that xDeathwing has not misled anybody, just because you think his offer was unreasonable?

Payment to xento(aka fontas)

http://i39.tinypic.com/5fgjcz.png

Because the information on the blockchain is a big secret... right? https://blockchain.info/tx/dea395e5f3d37bd2e39fcaaf5808c6ebc4e9ec54e55ace4e6644881e33cfd765

Hah, forgot that people can find on mine too, fontas does not want to reveal addresses.(Well idk, he didn't want to reveal a while ago.)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 07:43:27 PM
IMO, accused should be unstaffed and get the untrustworthy tag. The situation is very much analogous to the Matt Wright case what with the "it was just a joke" defense and all and thus the taken measures should also be analogous.

I agree with this. Untrustworthy tag for him.

I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: malevolent on September 10, 2013, 07:53:48 PM
You not seeing any problems is the problem. Same with Matthew.

Next thing and he will start saying that he only wanted to "teach people a lesson"   ::)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 10, 2013, 08:01:40 PM
IMO, accused should be unstaffed and get the untrustworthy tag. The situation is very much analogous to the Matt Wright case what with the "it was just a joke" defense and all and thus the taken measures should also be analogous.

I agree with this. Untrustworthy tag for him.

I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.

You not seeing any problems is the problem. Same with Matthew.

This. Precisely.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kouye on September 10, 2013, 09:36:06 PM
Next thing and he will start saying that he only wanted to "teach people a lesson"   ::)

Wow! Combining a TF troll with a MnW one is just too much for me not to give you a big thumb up (from a distance).

xDeathwing: you admited offering 0.5BTC for the video, before you edited the post.
The video was posted.
You owe 0.5BTC.
Period.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Damnsammit on September 10, 2013, 09:59:40 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Deathwing on September 10, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 10, 2013, 11:00:28 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

xDeathWing, atleast pay half of what you said... (0.2 More!)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: theymos on September 11, 2013, 03:14:00 AM
He is no longer a moderator. I don't give out scammer tags anymore except in extraordinary cases. You can use the trust system.

How did this guy become staff anyway?  Was this Theymos's doing?


As I typically do for language sections, I chose him after consulting the community in question (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236662.0).


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 11, 2013, 03:40:03 AM
He is no longer a moderator. I don't give out scammer tags anymore except in extraordinary cases. You can use the trust system.

How did this guy become staff anyway?  Was this Theymos's doing?


As I typically do for language sections, I chose him after consulting the community in question (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236662.0).

Just a little off-topic question... DO you know turkish or did you use translate.google.com?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: theymos on September 11, 2013, 03:42:55 AM
Just a little off-topic question... DO you know turkish or did you use translate.google.com?

I used translate.google.com. (If I knew Turkish, I'd moderate the section myself!)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 11, 2013, 03:43:58 AM
Just a little off-topic question... DO you know turkish or did you use translate.google.com?

I used translate.google.com. (If I knew Turkish, I'd moderate the section myself!)

Haha. Well kk. Wouldnt you think that it would only be fair if he paid 0.25 (1/2 of what he promised?)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: theymos on September 11, 2013, 03:50:48 AM
Haha. Well kk. Wouldnt you think that it would only be fair if he paid 0.25 (1/2 of what he promised?)

I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 11, 2013, 03:52:37 AM
Haha. Well kk. Wouldnt you think that it would only be fair if he paid 0.25 (1/2 of what he promised?)

I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.

Ok, well thank you for resolving this thread! :)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Damnsammit on September 11, 2013, 03:58:14 AM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

I am very impressed with your ability to read 997 posts as quickly as you did.  Speed Racer, go go go!


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Damnsammit on September 11, 2013, 04:01:04 AM
Haha. Well kk. Wouldnt you think that it would only be fair if he paid 0.25 (1/2 of what he promised?)

I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.

theymos, this is why you are awesome as a Mod.  I have done a bounty before and I ended up paying more than the initial bounty because I was pleased with the work that was presented, and I only pledged a bounty that was miniscule enough for me to not mind paying more than double than.  The fault with the Turkish mod is that he is not aware what the fault is at all... thank you for being you.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 11, 2013, 11:05:51 AM
Haha. Well kk. Wouldnt you think that it would only be fair if he paid 0.25 (1/2 of what he promised?)

I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.

Thank you for taking action, theymos. Should I lock this thread?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: BadBear on September 11, 2013, 11:24:18 AM
Thank you for taking action, theymos. Should I lock this thread?

If you consider it resolved might as well, but he hasn't paid still.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 11, 2013, 01:57:09 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

You do realize that your actions reflect upon theymos, don't you? I have the utmost respect for theymos, albeit I sometimes give him a little shit. In fact, I'm on record in stating that I respect all the mods. I still do, sans one. Fathom a guess as to which one?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 11, 2013, 01:59:10 PM
Haha. Well kk. Wouldnt you think that it would only be fair if he paid 0.25 (1/2 of what he promised?)

I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.

Excellent response, theymos.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: greyhawk on September 11, 2013, 02:03:36 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: b!z on September 11, 2013, 02:09:38 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.

Is 'SA' the forum version of ebaumsworld? Sure does sound like it.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: greyhawk on September 11, 2013, 02:18:46 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.

Is 'SA' the forum version of ebaumsworld? Sure does sound like it.

Oh no, you didn't just go there. Be glad I like you, or I would be... would be.... would be posting pictures of your house and sending you Dominoes Pizza and little tiny packets of flour labeled cocaine. (The trick is it's not flour, it's cocaine)


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 11, 2013, 03:51:57 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.

Is 'SA' the forum version of ebaumsworld? Sure does sound like it.

Oh no, you didn't just go there. Be glad I like you, or I would be... would be.... would be posting pictures of your house and sending you Dominoes Pizza and little tiny packets of flour labeled cocaine. (The trick is it's not flour, it's cocaine)

You send people free cocaine? Can i sign up for some of that? 8)

hahaha hahaha...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: greyhawk on September 11, 2013, 04:08:35 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.

Is 'SA' the forum version of ebaumsworld? Sure does sound like it.

Oh no, you didn't just go there. Be glad I like you, or I would be... would be.... would be posting pictures of your house and sending you Dominoes Pizza and little tiny packets of flour labeled cocaine. (The trick is it's not flour, it's cocaine)

You send people free cocaine? Can i sign up for some of that? 8)

It's trick cocaine that's actually anthrax.  :-\


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 11, 2013, 04:11:58 PM
Pass.

I knew there was a catch. :'(


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: lulzplzkthx on September 11, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. You offered .5 BTC for someone to provide a service to you, they provided the service, and you are trying to send .05 BTC.

You claim you made a typo. But you were not upfront about this. You were not honest about this. Instead you MODIFIED a post in which you were quoted, without noting the change, to say ".05 BTC." That is extremely shady.

Let's say you did make a typo... you're still obligated because that is the amount you agreed to pay. If the person on the other end of the transaction decided to be understanding of you allegedly "making a typo," then that would be okay. But they haven't. And you haven't spoken to them. Because you seem to think you can say one thing and do another.

That is not how respectable people operate.

For those saying this does not fit the definition of a scam... the definition "a dishonest scheme; a fraud." The definition of fraud: "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain."

I think it is quite deceptive to act like you said something you didn't, and even try to tamper with the evidence (the quoted post) to make it look like you said something else.

That's messed up man. And I think you know you're in the wrong here. You just don't want to be out the money. So man up and talk it over to sitnicki. Maybe he'll be understanding.

John


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Tsukene on September 11, 2013, 05:49:08 PM
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. You offered .5 BTC for someone to provide a service to you, they provided the service, and you are trying to send .05 BTC.

You claim you made a typo. But you were not upfront about this. You were not honest about this. Instead you MODIFIED a post in which you were quoted, without noting the change, to say ".05 BTC." That is extremely shady.

Let's say you did make a typo... you're still obligated because that is the amount you agreed to pay. If the person on the other end of the transaction decided to be understanding of you allegedly "making a typo," then that would be okay. But they haven't. And you haven't spoken to them. Because you seem to think you can say one thing and do another.

That is not how respectable people operate.

For those saying this does not fit the definition of a scam... the definition "a dishonest scheme; a fraud." The definition of fraud: "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain."

I think it is quite deceptive to act like you said something you didn't, and even try to tamper with the evidence (the quoted post) to make it look like you said something else.

That's messed up man. And I think you know you're in the wrong here. You just don't want to be out the money. So man up and talk it over to sitnicki. Maybe he'll be understanding.

John

+1


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 11, 2013, 06:41:47 PM
I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. You offered .5 BTC for someone to provide a service to you, they provided the service, and you are trying to send .05 BTC.

You claim you made a typo. But you were not upfront about this. You were not honest about this. Instead you MODIFIED a post in which you were quoted, without noting the change, to say ".05 BTC." That is extremely shady.

Let's say you did make a typo... you're still obligated because that is the amount you agreed to pay. If the person on the other end of the transaction decided to be understanding of you allegedly "making a typo," then that would be okay. But they haven't. And you haven't spoken to them. Because you seem to think you can say one thing and do another.

That is not how respectable people operate.

For those saying this does not fit the definition of a scam... the definition "a dishonest scheme; a fraud." The definition of fraud: "wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain."

I think it is quite deceptive to act like you said something you didn't, and even try to tamper with the evidence (the quoted post) to make it look like you said something else.

That's messed up man. And I think you know you're in the wrong here. You just don't want to be out the money. So man up and talk it over to sitnicki. Maybe he'll be understanding.

John

Dude just let it go, he is not a mod anymore...


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on September 11, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
Dude just let it go, he is not a mod anymore...

No, but technically he still owes .45 BTC unless Sitnicki and he agree upon something else.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: nahtnam on September 11, 2013, 09:11:08 PM
Dude just let it go, he is not a mod anymore...

No, but technically he still owes .45 BTC unless Sitnicki and he agree upon something else.

well he is a "scammer" and we can't do anything about it


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: 01BTC10 on September 11, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.

Is 'SA' the forum version of ebaumsworld? Sure does sound like it.

Oh no, you didn't just go there. Be glad I like you, or I would be... would be.... would be posting pictures of your house and sending you Dominoes Pizza and little tiny packets of flour labeled cocaine. (The trick is it's not flour, it's cocaine)

You send people free cocaine? Can i sign up for some of that? 8)

It's trick cocaine that's actually anthrax.  :-\

Nope, ricin. 

http://i42.tinypic.com/s5bi9k.png


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Kouye on September 11, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.

Adding my voice to all the praise. Way to handle this situation, theymos.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Tsukene on September 11, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
I don't think that bounties are generally enforceable. In an informal bounty like this without specific language to the contrary, the bounty creator retains sole control over who receives the bounty, even if the community disagrees with him. So I don't think that xDeathwing is obligated to pay anything, though due to the confusion and small amount of money involved, he probably should pay 0.5.

I removed him as a moderator because this is all a bit shady, and his conduct in this thread leads me to believe that he is too reckless/careless to be a good moderator, not because I believe him to be guilty of scamming in this case.

Adding my voice to all the praise. Way to handle this situation, theymos.

I agree, theymos handled this the right way.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 13, 2013, 02:32:00 AM
Wow... this looks great for the forum...  ::)



You gave me cancer sir, 98 activity 997 post, useless posts.

Excellent mod post! Seriously, excellent mod post... for SA, but not here.

I'll have to correct you here. This kind of post would be bannable on SA, mod or not. We frown on the use of tired, old catchphrases. Mostly because we invented them. 10 years ago. Like the one above. That was one of them.

Is 'SA' the forum version of ebaumsworld? Sure does sound like it.

Oh no, you didn't just go there. Be glad I like you, or I would be... would be.... would be posting pictures of your house and sending you Dominoes Pizza and little tiny packets of flour labeled cocaine. (The trick is it's not flour, it's cocaine)

You send people free cocaine? Can i sign up for some of that? 8)

Fuck the cocaine, I want flower. I know this chick with a yeast infection and I want to bake bread.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: sitnicki on September 13, 2013, 05:55:36 AM
Sorry for my english
I received a payment from the xDeathwing in the amount of 0.05 BTC from which pleases me.
Please, do not take the next payment :) I recognize that xDeathwing made ​​a mistake by making a typo.
Please close the thread and not returning to it.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 13, 2013, 05:59:19 AM
Sorry for my english
I received a payment from the xDeathwing in the amount of 0.05 BTC from which pleases me.
Please, do not take the next payment :) I recognize that xDeathwing made ​​a mistake by making a typo.
Please close the thread and not returning to it.
Exactly what I said!

We didn't know Sitnicki's perspective so this entire thread was simply a witch hunt, and we should have waited for Sitnicki's input.

Now that we have it, he recognized the typo and was pleased with the outcome making this entire thread irrelevant.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: r3wt on September 13, 2013, 06:19:01 AM
all you goofy motherfuckers in here on your moral crusade about xDeathwings actions are ridiculous. if you honestly think that he should have to pay .5 btc for a video, whether he said it or not, you are a waste of breath. the fact that he paid .05 btc at all shows some type of resolve in his charachter. you're all a bunch of fucking idiots, pure and simple, and all you try to do is create a fight out of a minor misunderstanding.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 13, 2013, 06:29:15 AM
How about two misunderstandings.

xDeathwing, when will I get my money back?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3119855#msg3119855

I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.

Wrong. Answer.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 13, 2013, 06:36:06 AM
How about two misunderstandings.

xDeathwing, when will I get my money back?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3119855#msg3119855

I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.

Wrong. Answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3120352#msg3120352
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3121690#msg3121690


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 13, 2013, 06:38:21 AM
How about two misunderstandings.

xDeathwing, when will I get my money back?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3119855#msg3119855

I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.

Wrong. Answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3120352#msg3120352
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3121690#msg3121690

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111872

No tag.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 13, 2013, 06:39:07 AM
Carlos L.

I think you have some feedback to remove.
https://i.imgur.com/HhFyQta.png

Sorry for my english
I received a payment from the xDeathwing in the amount of 0.05 BTC from which pleases me.
Please, do not take the next payment :) I recognize that xDeathwing made ​​a mistake by making a typo.
Please close the thread and not returning to it.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 13, 2013, 06:40:51 AM

-- SNIP --

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=111872

No tag.

I don't give out scammer tags anymore except in extraordinary cases. You can use the trust system.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 13, 2013, 06:44:01 AM
That's up to Carlos L. I wouldn't do any business with xDeathwing either, but I'm not going to give him an untrustworthy rating because *I* don't feel it's warranted.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: r3wt on September 13, 2013, 06:49:41 AM
That's up to Carlos L. I wouldn't do any business with xDeathwing either, but I'm not going to give him an untrustworthy rating because *I* don't feel it's warranted.

exactly, he got his bluff called and exposed for not having .5 btc. that isn't untrustworthy or scam tag worthy. i'm sure even sitnicki would agree.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 13, 2013, 06:53:27 AM
That's up to Carlos L. I wouldn't do any business with xDeathwing either, but I'm not going to give him an untrustworthy rating because *I* don't feel it's warranted.

Quote
(I'll delete this feedback after settlement agreement between sitnicki and xDeathwing)
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Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 13, 2013, 07:11:01 AM
I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: bitspill on September 13, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
I don't know if i'll take a Scammer or Untrustworthy tag but for this subject, i don't know...
I paid 0.05 to both person as i said before so i don't see any problems.

Sorry for my english
I received a payment from the xDeathwing in the amount of 0.05 BTC from which pleases me.
Please, do not take the next payment
:) I recognize that xDeathwing made ​​a mistake by making a typo.
Please close the thread and not returning to it.

Sitnicki is pleased with the result, he understands it was a typo.

Where is the problem?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 13, 2013, 07:21:34 AM
You'll have to ask that of Carlos L.

It's possible that he doesn't feel xDeathwing should be allowed to relocate a decimal after both parties had agreed to terms.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: EFS on September 13, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
all you goofy motherfuckers in here on your moral crusade about xDeathwings actions are ridiculous. if you honestly think that he should have to pay .5 btc for a video, whether he said it or not, you are a waste of breath. the fact that he paid .05 btc at all shows some type of resolve in his charachter. you're all a bunch of fucking idiots, pure and simple, and all you try to do is create a fight out of a minor misunderstanding.


You can't just come up and curse everybody. You are very disrespectful. What a shame for your parents.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on September 13, 2013, 12:13:22 PM
That's up to Carlos L. I wouldn't do any business with xDeathwing either, but I'm not going to give him an untrustworthy rating because *I* don't feel it's warranted.

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(I'll delete this feedback after settlement agreement between sitnicki and xDeathwing)
https://i.imgur.com/HhFyQta.png
Done.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: marcovaldo on September 13, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
all you goofy motherfuckers in here on your moral crusade about xDeathwings actions are ridiculous. if you honestly think that he should have to pay .5 btc for a video, whether he said it or not, you are a waste of breath. the fact that he paid .05 btc at all shows some type of resolve in his charachter. you're all a bunch of fucking idiots, pure and simple, and all you try to do is create a fight out of a minor misunderstanding.



Anyway it was solved before:

Sorry for my english
I received a payment from the xDeathwing in the amount of 0.05 BTC from which pleases me.
Please, do not take the next payment :) I recognize that xDeathwing made ​​a mistake by making a typo.
Please close the thread and not returning to it.


This thread can be closed.
Sitnicki accepted the 0.05 btc payment for the video.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Tsukene on September 13, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
all you goofy motherfuckers in here on your moral crusade about xDeathwings actions are ridiculous. if you honestly think that he should have to pay .5 btc for a video, whether he said it or not, you are a waste of breath. the fact that he paid .05 btc at all shows some type of resolve in his charachter. you're all a bunch of fucking idiots, pure and simple, and all you try to do is create a fight out of a minor misunderstanding.


It's not only what he did, but how he handled himself when doing so.  Being a moderator and acting that way is not acceptable. He is representing the community and doing so in a poor manor.

You also need to calm down a bit, you have some anger issues, I think.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Grim Death on September 13, 2013, 05:07:56 PM
I agree, when you are a member of staff for a company then you should be held to a higher standard than regular members.

Having said that I think Theymos handled the situation correctly and sitnicki is also happy with the resolution. It is pleasing to see that the scammer sub-forum has worked in this situation.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: creativex on September 13, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Agree. This has been handled very well by all involved. Well, all involved save one.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Tsukene on September 13, 2013, 09:38:54 PM
I agree, when you are a member of staff for a company then you should be held to a higher standard than regular members.

Having said that I think Theymos handled the situation correctly and sitnicki is also happy with the resolution. It is pleasing to see that the scammer sub-forum has worked in this situation.

I agree that Theymos handled the situation very well.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 14, 2013, 08:10:02 AM
That's up to Carlos L. I wouldn't do any business with xDeathwing either, but I'm not going to give him an untrustworthy rating because *I* don't feel it's warranted.

I didn't even consider giving out three scammer tags to three users on this forum who've ordered custom hand tooled leather products from my brother-in-law and didn't pay one satoshi toward the over $500 USD owed going on two years now.


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: yussuf89 on October 23, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
he(xDeathwing) said to me, its only a joke.
he is not a staff now


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: EFS on October 23, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
he(xDeathwing) said to me, its only a joke.
he is not a staff now

Why bump the thread after 5 weeks then?


Title: Re: STAFF member xDeathwing is a SCAMMER!
Post by: monbux on October 23, 2013, 09:39:51 PM
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all you goofy motherfuckers in here on your moral crusade about xDeathwings actions are ridiculous. if you honestly think that he should have to pay .5 btc for a video, whether he said it or not, you are a waste of breath. the fact that he paid .05 btc at all shows some type of resolve in his charachter. you're all a bunch of fucking idiots, pure and simple, and all you try to do is create a fight out of a minor misunderstanding.

Who's the "idiot'?  He could have kept his mouth shut, but he didn't.
That was a reckless move and him CHANGING it was a bit more reckless.
He paid 0.05 BTC?  Good for him, congratz and all, but I would've expected a(n) (ex)moderator to keep his word.

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he(xDeathwing) said to me, its only a joke.
he is not a staff now

bump, lolz