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I wouldn't say it is a bad investment at the current price. It has a low market cap so it is worth a gamble on a few coins that might go 100x. Not all forks are bad, remember that litecoin is a fork of bitcoin so being a fork of shadow cash is not a bad thing. I certainly wouldn't go all in with xspec, but it's at a low enough price to invest in right now. If the developer does deliver stealth staking, price will rocket as a game changing feature.

Big scam proje

Instead of talking shit , better to explain your idea with proof and highlight people who invested in XSPEC.

I think that this is real, if the market will increase its capitalization just as quickly, then it is quite possible like previous year that Xspec will give x100

Thats not a fair assessment given all alts are down and bitcoin is as well. Everybody’s messed up. No one can give you proof its a scam or otherwise. Only the devs know whats up. Lets stop crying foul like that and be more objective on things.


Nano: down 3x
Bitcoin: down 2x
Ripple: down 3.5x
.....

Do you know any other privacy coin with integrated torand obsf4 layer? What other privacy coin has been shown to penetrate the great wall of china? Besides, whats your alternate low cap coin? Elixir? Nice website but no lending company has grown to a respectable market cap.

Take a look at the coin they copied, it has everything xspec has, it is xspec with a different name, xspec doesn't have 1 single feature this coin doesn't have, do you not understand the idea of taking a coin and rebranding it? I don't view TOR transactions as anything special either, a proper private chain eliminates the need for TOR, tell me if a seller gives you his true private wallet address, Monero as an example, why do you need TOR integration? just use your Monero wallet to send to his wallet rather than having to go through the TOR layer, it didn't do much for shadow cash's existence either.. and if we look at TOR based sales, Monero is the norm, good reason for this.
also xspec has a richlist, would I keep my private funds in a coin that shows my total amount by wallet address? how's that private?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich << very anonymous isn't it.

And you are just bringing up features now, features that shadow cash a coin with a 1.5 million cap had before xspec copied it's code and made not 1 improvement.

You either have no clue at all or you're just here to shill your shitty coin.

Back to my point though, it's a scam, copy + paste of shadow cash, nothing more, no known team, 1 developer, top 10% hold over 30% of xspec.. I know this due to a richlist ;)
Can any one tell me the spread on Monero?

Also for the record I hold 0 Monero or any other privacy coin, just calling out a scam project.

Also why did it go to $5 in December? coinbase made 43% of it's yearly revenue in December alone, tons of new traders, they go online looking for a good deal and find this, the #1 shilled coin online, seriously feel for these people.

If it was a good coin, being on the market for a whole year now, it's market cap would be far far higher than it is, people with money are not stupid, stupid people can't put in enough to drive it's price unless it's the likes of what we seen in December.

Also in 1 year, you would expect some new features in a fork, it's still just a mirror of shadow cash.

For every shitty shill reply you put up trying to convince new traders, I'll put up one which does far more damage to your shit coin.. so please keep going! dig that hole deeper.

Also you've got 2 posts on this forum as of now, 2 in this thread.. signing up to defend shit won't work.

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

I bought some xspec at 3.5 dollars but now i don’t really believe in this project anymore. I think that when it will hit 4 dollars again i will sell my xspec

xspec is a scam, stay away from this shill hype coin.  Devs have a massive amount.

I think that this is real, if the market will increase its capitalization just as quickly, then it is quite possible like previous year that Xspec will give x100

The Devs have kept no coins. Check you have the right coin, spectro and spectre are different coins.
I am new, but a claim like this needs proof, or it is just attempted fud.

I believe that spectrecoin added tor, obfs4 and some wallet improvements, as well as tweaking ring sigs, and other relatively minor things. SDC did not have these.

Also, spectrecoin tor runs completely within the tor network. It does not use exit nodes. Exit nodes are a weakness, they could be compromised. Spectrecoin is unique, I believe it is the only coin that does this, other tor coins run through proxy.

Progress is slow, but the aim is to release stealth staking and mobile wallets this year. Richlist will be gone when stealth by default is introduced.

You will prob call me a shill, but I researched the coin, this is what I know.

It is a risk, but rewards could be big. Not sure about 200x though!

The Devs have kept no coins. Check you have the right coin, spectro and spectre are different coins.
I am new, but a claim like this needs proof, or it is just attempted fud.

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

Not true, look in the top right corner of the Umbra wallet I posted on page 1, see the TOR button? right in the same place as the xspec TOR button ;)
shadow cash also has ring signatures, changing colour isn't a wallet improvement either, name these minor things please.


Where is your proof? I can view the richlist and see 10 people hold 30% of xspec, I wonder who that is, the top holder has had no wallet activity for over 1 year and 33 days, it's not been on the market this long so my guess is that's the dev or atleast one of his wallet, be around $1.7 million at current price

42% of xspec is held by the top 20 wallets, check the richlist.

Please people just because you've bought it and you are wishful, doesn't mean you should start ignoring facts, best to be open minded about what you hold.

Any developer could take an open source project, change the colours, change the icon and rebrand it, it's not even a weekends work, then all you have to do is pay cryptopia to put it on their exchange and design a nice website, most have enough morels to not do this thankfully.

I don't view obfs4 as any type of achievement, you can download open source code for obfs4 and implement it easy enough, 2 minutes on google and you can find code in most common languages, turning tor on by default vs via a switch = removing an if statement, TOR (thanks shadow cash) is the complex part here not obfs4

a donation wallet = you believe they can only have 1 wallet? back in December (use the waybackmachine on the richlist) you can see the top 5 held 25% of xspec

So just to clear up, they've added an authentication layer over TOR which is open and on the internet and removed an if statement? sorry people this must make the coin legit (ignore the sarcasm)

It's a scam... I'll eat my words if stealth staking comes out, feel free to bring this thread back when it happens and I'll admit I was wrong, pretty sure this won't happen though, over 1 year to implement this much work is a joke.

Tweaked ring sigs? explain please.. And as for bug fixes, got before and after examples or just taking the 1 devs word for it?

No paid marketing? ever seen a coin shilled like this one from Jr members? either some ones got a ton of time or...

Thanks atleast for putting up some form of an argument, sure beats the standard replies in these type of threads but I'm sorry doesn't cut it for me, Most mid level developers putting in as little as an hour a week would achieve more than xspec has.

wouldn't get stealth staking done with such a lack of effort.

I believe that spectrecoin added tor, obfs4 and some wallet improvements, as well as tweaking ring sigs, and other relatively minor things. SDC did not have these.

Also, spectrecoin tor runs completely within the tor network. It does not use exit nodes. Exit nodes are a weakness, they could be compromised. Spectrecoin is unique, I believe it is the only coin that does this, other tor coins run through proxy.

Progress is slow, but the aim is to release stealth staking and mobile wallets this year. Richlist will be gone when stealth by default is introduced.

You will prob call me a shill, but I researched the coin, this is what I know.

It is a risk, but rewards could be big. Not sure about 200x though!

This is what they mean by tweaking ring signatures:

https://github.com/XSPECOfficial/spectre/commit/df2535113495145cbed015a7ceae572020903da3

look at src/qt/walletmodel.cpp, 30 characers repetead twice.

It's embarassing only mentioning it. I mean guys, github is public, why don't you stop repeating the words you listen around and check yourself?

Why 1.4 code is not public on github in a separate branch yet? Promised and never done, more than a month has passed now.

Ah, and this one:

https://github.com/XSPECOfficial/spectre/commit/f22bac358d048fa43d48c44d9f414f83f0c97298

note he removed also the comment "and harms the network", made by the original developers  :D so probably that change is not even good!

10x is more than feasible. XSPEC remains a crypto that I'm extremely bullish on

preshpr1nce, if you haven't, read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839833.0

I did a in depth research of all his commits. There is almost nothing apart of library updates and UI changes, in 9 months.

   if (stat("obfs4proxy.exe", &sb) == 0 && sb.st_mode & S_IXUSR) {
      clientTransportPlugin = "obfs4 exec obfs4proxy.exe";
    }
#else
    if ((stat("obfs4proxy", &sb) == 0 && sb.st_mode & S_IXUSR) || !std::system("which obfs4proxy")) {
      clientTransportPlugin = "obfs4 exec obfs4proxy";

preshpr1nce, if you haven't, read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839833.0

I did a in depth research of all his commits. There is almost nothing apart of library updates and UI changes, in 9 months.

More people need to see this thread, read through it to see proof of xspec being a scam.
If you want to ignore all that and just skip to page 4 and make a comment then fair enough, but if you're invested or plan to invest in this coin take a read.

If it doesn't make sense, ask questions and I'll do my best to clear it up.

In a nutshell:
- Xspec = mirror copy of shadow coin and their wallet, screenshot of wallets on page 1
- Over 1 year, only code development done = reducing ring size from 2 to 1 and calling it an enhancement (lower = less secure) and changing colour scheme/logo on the wallet, about an hours work tops
- Taking the obfs4 executable from the TOR installation and executing it with the wallet, claiming to have "obfs4 integration", 0 code for it bar the exe execution snippet, would of taken longer to test it than to produce it, about 10 minutes max work code wise.
- Top 10 wallets own 30% of xspec
- and a few other points.

All up in 1 year xspec has done about an hours work, how do we know? you can view their github to see the commits + source code, to a developer this is proof, not speculation.
If you're already in it, get out, if you are looking to buy, stay away, their website would of taken a lot longer than any work done on the coin itself

Would love to see the shills try and defend this one, waiting for 10+ JR posts soon, but not sure they have the ammo to defend this type of proof.
I might make an indepth thread in the Altcoin section over the weekend which breaks down and explains all the work they've done by going over their source code commits on github, wouldn't take long.. I knew this coin wasn't right but now I'm 100%

Also check out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839833.0 by gunner833, he did a great job of explaining it

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

More people need to see this thread, read through it to see proof of xspec being a scam.
If you want to ignore all that and just skip to page 4 and make a comment then fair enough, but if you're invested or plan to invest in this coin take a read.

If it doesn't make sense, ask questions and I'll do my best to clear it up.

In a nutshell:
- Xspec = mirror copy of shadow coin and their wallet, screenshot of wallets on page 1
- Over 1 year, only code development done = reducing ring size from 2 to 1 and calling it an enhancement (lower = less secure) and changing colour scheme/logo on the wallet, about an hours work tops
- Taking the obfs4 executable from the TOR installation and executing it with the wallet, claiming to have "obfs4 integration", 0 code for it bar the exe execution snippet, would of taken longer to test it than to produce it, about 10 minutes max work code wise.
- Top 10 wallets own 30% of xspec
- and a few other points.

All up in 1 year xspec has done about an hours work, how do we know? you can view their github to see the commits + source code, to a developer this is proof, not speculation.
If you're already in it, get out, if you are looking to buy, stay away, their website would of taken a lot longer than any work done on the coin itself

Would love to see the shills try and defend this one, waiting for 10+ JR posts soon, but not sure they have the ammo to defend this type of proof.
I might make an indepth thread in the Altcoin section over the weekend which breaks down and explains all the work they've done by going over their source code commits on github, wouldn't take long.. I knew this coin wasn't right but now I'm 100%

Also check out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839833.0 by gunner833, he did a great job of explaining it

Now would be a great time to buy.

I've taken my findings from this thread and made one in the Altcoin section:
PROOF that XSPEC is a SCAM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055715.0

hm, do you own xspec? if yes, you can send it to me :)
if its scam i think you wont need it anymore

For me xspec will growth but not thathigh like you speak. I think 10x growth will be the most real for this coin. Maybe a little higher but not 200x

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

This target is too high imho. Do you know that it already took a x100 jump from ICO price until where we are now?

I think x10 is possible, but not x100.

Current   = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90 - (MARCH 2018)

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

This is the kinda BS that makes crypto unappealing to people. Don't know which side is being truthful, but either way these events make us look very armature.

Well if you don't praise your own beliefs what then?

Now would be a great time to buy.

I planned to buy a week ago. I'm glad that I decided to wait a little longer. I think that now the price is almost optimal for the purchase.

What can be the drivers of growth for this coin? I almost decide to buy some, but last news so disappointing.

can't believe this shit coin has its own market at poloniex, makes the whole site unprofessional.

Monero is pump and dump. No noticeable features except for HYPE.

Under 25c? I'm waiting for zero and for it to fuck off so we can be left in peace.

Monero bagholer cult is hilarious. Nobody cares  Smiley

You should do a bit more reading and not listen to the monero shills with their endless, inane threads.

I'm just curious, what will it take you to believe XSPEC isn't a scam? Will the 1.4 release satisfy you as to the progress JBG is making? Adding another developer? Successfully completing Stealth Staking? Where does it stop for you?

I find it funny that the 25 cent Monero thread has resurfaced in the last few days, take a look at what some of the people were saying about Monero when it was 25 cents:





My personal favorite:


Sound familiar everyone? Monero was a "shit-coin" until it wasn't. If XSPEC actually delivers, the price is going to reflect it and a lot of early adopters are going to be very happy with their investment. I was definitely concerned with all of the recent threads about JBG but he reasonably defended himself and I trusted his responses. I'm eagerly awaiting 1.4 release which I hope will help stop the endless FUD being spread by the same 3 people. Call me an XSPEC shill if you like, I'm invested in quite a few coins and XSPEC is one of them and I believe in the project. Its not a secret. Make a decision based off your personal risk. For me, either XSPEC is going to be worthless if JBG/team doesn't deliver, or its going to the moon and beyond if they actually deliver stealth staking. I'll take that risk because I spend money on dumb shit now anyway so I might as well take a gamble that could pay off big.  :D

To compare, all of the above quotes are nothing but speculation from people doing no research or providing anything more than an opinion.

Those people DID do research and at the time believed Monero had proved nothing that made it valuable as a coin. I'm not saying XSPEC will follow the same path for success, but the arguments sound very familiar. If 1.4 is released there will actually be code available to parse other than foundation updates needed for 1.4/2.0. If 2.0 is actually released... well, it won't matter because anyone who didn't invest will have missed their entry point.

Anyone notice how he avoided what it would take for him to stop believing its a scam?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Probably because its not about the project itself. Its about spreading that sweet, sweet FUD.

The initial project manager payed jbg to START with, now he owns the project and isn't being payed, had to sell funds for a flight recently yet can afford to hire a developer?

jbg is in his 20s, claims 20+ years dev experience,

you can clearly go through this code and see jbg has done nearly nothing in his time yet claims to work full time, the changes he has made and hyped as big features or bug fixes are less than a days work, the code does not lie, any one with the slight ability to read code can see this themselves

as I said the absolute easiest way to put this to rest is to discredit the code findings

No one has said this has anything to do with 1.4, based on what we've seen though it's fair to make assumptions.

How do you know they are hiring another developer?

you're silly if you think your words will have more impact on coin price than what's already happened, people are smarter than this and it's showing in the recent dumps, as of now it's a highly volatile coin and a horrible investment

The Monero XMR Scam Uncovered

Monero is being pushed very hard everywhere in this forum. XMR supporters are radically aggressive appearing in each and every single thread, flooding the discussions, and FUDing all the coins that appear on their way. The crypto community is already dead tired of the Monero shill accounts unprecedented activity.




I'm not saying that promoting your coin is illegal activity by itself. After all, the altcoin market is 99.9% about shouting louder than everyone else. PR usually helps get it going until it suddenly burns itself out (like with Doge). However, I came across a number of stinky facts that may prove that Monero is a completely artificial bubble.


How it looks like

If you've been reading the forum thoroughly for the last months, you might have noticed a couple of things about XMR.

You might have an impression that there are a lot of XMR supporters.
You might have an impression that the trade volume is very high.
You might have an impression that the developers are active.

You might also have an impression that something is very weird about this raw newborn coin.

Most likely because every single thing you see about XMR looks artificial.


The Hypotheses

H1. Monero's posting activity is artificial
H2. Monero's trades volumes are artificial
H3. Monero's developers are not capable of developing the coin

If all of the three hypotheses hold, then I'd say that Monero is scam and/or bubble. However, let the research be fair.


H1. Monero's posting activity is artificial

Recently, I stumbled upon a thread where Spoetnik points (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=749222.0) to a WTB hero member account thread started by Come-from-Above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300079).


Here's the thread by Come-from-Above where he claims that he is paying 5-10 BTC for Sr. Member and Hero Member accounts. And apparently he needs a substantial number of such accounts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=728902.0


Think about it for a moment. Why one need to buy old accounts? Hero Members make greater sense of community approval then the Newbies. If someone so respected is claiming something, plenty of users are likely to believe him. And of course,


Of course, because you're buying Hero Members to post on flood threads about TV shows, right?
Nope. You are not.


1.1. Who is the beneficiary of the bought accounts?

Let's have a look at Come-from-Above's posting activity. There is a number of the things that might point us to Monero.


Other evidence:
proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7298818#msg7298818), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-mro-monero-a-coin-with-strong-privacy-based-on-cryptonote-technology.304375/page-318#post-6983660)
proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652296.msg7314472#msg7314472), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/monero-xmr-wall-difficulty-observer-trading-speculation-thread.328893/#post-6999276) (please, check out the mirror link and notice that the original post has been changed to "Monero TO THE STARS". Is someone competing with Doge's "to the moon?")
proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7324658#msg7324658), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-mro-monero-a-coin-with-strong-privacy-based-on-cryptonote-technology.304375/page-333#post-7009425) (how sweet!)
proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683365.msg7751009#msg7751009), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/xmr-monero-client-net-a-gui-wallet-made-for-windows.339969/#post-7425191)
proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702140.msg8173128#msg8173128), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/xmr-rpietila-monero-economics-thread.343448/page-9#post-7798868)

He keeps on buying large Monero sizes even when the price is stagnant. Come-from-Above has even started a new thread:



1.2. How much is the fish? A weird fact

Come-from-Above has donated 5000 XMR for the XMR GUI wallet.



Based on XMR and BTC prices on July 19,
5000 XMR = 5000 * 0.00455 = 22.75 BTC
5000 XMR = 22.75 * 627 = $14,624

Can you even imagine somebody wanting the GUI wallet so badly that he donates $14,000? For an already available totally free software? Which runs on .NET and cannot be used without an ugly extension? While the market price of such a development would be way beyond $1,000, more like 1 BTC?

I'm not even sure which of the two explanations is worse. Try answering yourself:
Case 1: a whale donating $14k to a XMR wallet developer and buying hero accounts
Case 2: a shill account pretending to have donated $14k and buying hero accounts

As a side note, the GUI wallet developer Jojatekok (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=199483;sa=showPosts;start=0) has quite an interesting activity history. He's commenting only on XMR thread and is mainly supporting his wallet only. Doesn't he look more like a maintainer of GUI thread to help conceal that all GUI wallets are being developed by the core team with no 3rd party developers around the coin? I do not want to seem too obsessed with the conspiracy theories, but those things just don't add up.


1.3. Compromised accs

This section is in progress

Suspect 1

Searching for compromised accounts requires a lot of time and effort but there is clear evidence already. Consider this user: Joshuar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=256176). Once he used to hate XMR:


Another evidence:
proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624223.msg6941001#msg6941001), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=624223.msg6941001#msg6941001)

Then suddenly he's in the WTB accs thread:


And then he's all for Monero:




Suspect 2

When I first saw saddambitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53193) on forum, I thought he's goddamn hero member so he should be trustworthy. Apparently, he isn't.

Check out his posts in 2013. They are all so lame you would immediately recognize the account being maintained for sale.


Then suddenly, after 4 months of being absent (since December 2013 by the way) he re-appears with the different writing style and all for Monero:


Coincidence?


Other suspects

There has been a remarkable "coming-out" that claims that certain XMR accounts were run by the bot maintainers. The person claims that such users as surfer43, smooth, mickey_miner, and novag were used by the ghost writers.

proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7529644#msg7529644), mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-mro-monero-a-coin-with-strong-privacy-based-on-cryptonote-technology.304375/page-421#post-7209629)

However, this might well be FUD.


If you happen to know any other XMR troll or sold account, share it with the community.


1.4 An interesting observation

If you were reading the recent thread where XMR trolls are accusing Bytecoin/CryptoNote, you might agree with the post below. Monero bots somehow manage to turn any discussion into the XMR PR machine:



Implications

That being said, Monero has a number of shady supporters including purchased hero accounts and shill writers. Next time you see a hero member, a senior member, or even a junior member that is posting for Monero, keep in mind that the account may actually be bought or maintained by an outsourced pr manager.

Hypothesis 1 is accepted. Monero's posting activity is likely to be largely artificial.

H2. Monero's trade volumes are artificial

Fact one — large daily emission
Monero is emitted at the rate of roughly 22,000 XMR/day at the moment. At the time of writing this is roughly 78 BTC or $40,000.

Take a look at the XMR emission chart (depicted as "Bitmonero"). The emission rate is much higher than Bitcoin's or pretty much any other PoW altcoin.




Fact two — botnets
Monero is largely botnet mined and that has been confirmed on a number of occasions (even by the XMR devs themselves):

1. A 4 MHash/sec botnet confirmed (you may wish to read several pages starting with the post below, as there are some speculations on botnet mining economy):


2. Two other botnet operators have been confirmed. How many botnets do those operators have? What is their hash rate? Nobody knows.


3. What's more, there is an infamous XMR silent miner issue (used as a botnet software that runs on the vulnerable PCs):
XMR silent miner is being actively sold for $10 (http://www.hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4326660)

4. Monero Stealth miner affecting PCs already in June 2014 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639375.0) (mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/monero-stealth-miner.324897/))


5. Here's a link to the virus base with this trojan (link from the thread above): https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e2e6b6938879142c4e35542b5fe8d3eeec7bf9e682f915213fda009097c3878e/analysis/1401909211/ (https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e2e6b6938879142c4e35542b5fe8d3eeec7bf9e682f915213fda009097c3878e/analysis/1401909211/)

6. Another report on the issue on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bgfy0/found_a_mining_trojan_on_a_pc_need_help_finding/). Check this comment (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bgfy0/found_a_mining_trojan_on_a_pc_need_help_finding/cj590ym).


Fact three — whale support
rpietila (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68520) is currently a Monero whale. Being a bitcoin millionaire he's capable of buying out large stakes of XMR that are dumped on the market. I'm not going to mirror those links, as everyone knows that rpietila is a whale and supports XMR. E.g.: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702140


Fact four — natural trend is declining
During the last 4 months that have passed since Monero launch, the price has never broken the peak. It simply fails to grow in spite of all the PR hype and fake forum activity. Of course, there are periods of growth, but have a look at the historic chart:


Below the chart you may see the trade volumes. When XMR is being traded as usual at 100 BTC volume (standard XMR market behavior), the price gradually declines. The explanation for that is fairly simple (go back to facts #1 and #2). The botnet owners are slowly dumping their coins and drive XMR market down.

Secondly, notice that upward trend coincides with the significant spikes in volume (up to 300 BTC and more). Recheck it with #1 and #3. As the natural demand can in no way match the botnet supply, someone has to step in from time to time to help get it going further. This is most likely the whale buying large XMR sizes out. Alternatively, the XMR trade volume spikes may also be someone on the core team trying to sustain the price.

 
Implications

That being said, XMR is likely to be mined mostly by the botnets at the rate that is not justified by the demand. Botnet owners dump the coin as it is not showing any stable growth. That's it folks, the 78 BTC of daily trades come simply from the daily emission rate being pushed to the market. No surprise, why the price is generally going down.

Why is that so? CryptoNote has created new ways for the botnet owners to profit. Monero was largely botnet mined from the inception, so the main stakeholders are basically botnet operators. How do you make sure your profits are secure? You need someone buying out those daily volumes. There are two simple ways to ensure that:

1. Artificial PR/hype through purchased hero accounts.
2. Secure yourself a whale.

This has serious implications and may actually link us back to H1 on fake marketing/PR hype. Botnet owners are securing their profits by purchasing accounts and hiring shills. However, everything they do is for just one particular purpose: profit from their botnet mined coin. They make you feel that XMR is largely supported so that you give your money to them.

It's hard to say whether XMR core team is involved. Of course, they would deny any potential connection. However, I wonder why they're not very interested with botnets and fake accounts and pretend that nothing weird is going on.

Another point is that I'm not sure why such a prominent investor and cryptocurrency activist as rpietila supports the coin with such serious issues. I assume that he was somehow tricked into believing that XMR has the future. It might also be the case that core developers are not seeing the whole picture themselces and honestly believe that Monero is actually supported by a large number of people who are willing to buy more and more Monero. However, the reality is that all these people are dead wrong. Monero is being dominated by botnet owners; everything they do with the black PR techniques is to fuel its scam growth. My last thought might be a bit brave, but could rpietila's money be the actual target of this scam scheme?

Don't worry, XMR will be deep mined in half a year. When the emission declines to 20 BTC per day, the botnet interest will disappear naturally. After they choose another victim, the Monero's black PR hype will disappear and the coin will fall down.

If you're not convinced, you may continue giving your USD to botnet owners in exchange of worthless XMR.

Hypothesis 2 is accepted. Monero's trades are artificial.

H3. Monero's developers are not capable of developing the coin

The XMR team in their missives report a lot of work being done. However, we haven't seen any meaningful update for the last several months. Of course, the work on GUI wallet is in progress, buy GUI is not related to the underlying protocol, which XMR copied form Bytecoin and apparently cannot maintain any further.


Evidence 1 — bullshit Monero missives

Have a glance at the compilation of XMR missives (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg8488694#msg8488694). How many of them are meaningful? The problem is that XMR devs are good at creating the illusion of development while not touching any underlying module (unlike Bytecoin which e.g. implemented multisigs and reworked so many code lines in a month that GitHub cannot even show the diff (https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/commit/4363a9f1001893c80ee2435399836cfe43b3014e)).

• Jun 2nd - nothing special
• Jun 10th - determenistic wallet is a nice usability improvement to add but it has nothing to do with the protocol
• Jun 18th - nothing special
• Jun 27th - transaction splitting is somewhat close to the hardcore work
• July 6th — nothing at all
• July 20th — nothing special
• July 23rd — nothing special
• August 3rd — nothing special
• August 10th — nothing special
• August 16th — nothing special

The truth is, among all the well-promoted XMR "development" activities, they've only managed so far to release transaction splitting and deterministic wallet. Everything else you see is either an irrelevant micro change or "a work in progress", which has never been released. It's easy to make an illusion of hardwork development going on, but the fact is XMR developers are not delivering.

Take i2p integration as an example:

• Long promoted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7125962#msg7125962) (mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-mro-monero-a-coin-with-strong-privacy-based-on-cryptonote-technology.304375/page-265#post-6821838))
  
• Never released
• i2p switches to Anoncoin (https://geti2p.net/en/blog/post/2014/08/15/The-privacy-solutions-project)

The original blog post about "XMR partnership with i2p" has even been removed from the i2p project's blog. It is quoted in fluffypony's post, but cannot be found on the i2p website: fluffypony bragging (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg7125962#msg7125962) (mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-mro-monero-a-coin-with-strong-privacy-based-on-cryptonote-technology.304375/page-265#post-6821838)), the blog post has been deleted (https://geti2p.net/en/blog/post/2014/05/25/Monero-partnership)

This situation is the best evidence. XMR devs are incompetent. Their "partnership" with i2p was yet another hype.


Evidence 2 - bugs

XMR devs roll out an undergraduate level C++ bug that might end up with users' money being lost:



Evidence 3 - copy&paste

XMR devs used to copy&paste code from other repositories (mostly, Bytecoin & Boolberry) without attribution.
Here is a pastebin of the Reddit post (http://pastebin.com/7CKY6eGw) deleted from XMR subreddit.


XMR copies the code from BCN, but trolls to death anyone who does the same to their code. One particular case is out of all proportions. Here XMR devs blame XDN devs for breaking the copyright. However, it turns out that the code in question was originally developed by BCN and taken by XMR without attribution.


Evidence 4 — unable to even launch Monero

You may not know it kids, but Monero was originally launched as Bitmonero on April 18th by thankful_for_today (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=233561): the original thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563821.0) (mirror (https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-a-new-coin-based-on-cryptonote-technology-bcn-fork.296985/)).

What happened next is a bit of a mystery as thankful_for_today was absent for a couple of days only to find out that Bitmonero was taken over by the "community" and renamed to Monero. This implies that current XMR devs were even unable to launch their coin, which forced them to hijack the website and the github. They have just decided to exclude thankful_for_today from the team and that is how Monero was born.

That's it. The XMR core team knows the CryptoNote protocol that bad they couldn't even launch Bytecoin's fork themselves.


Evidence 5 - external opinions

All of this might well be the reason why the observers believe that XMR devs are incompetent (https://twitter.com/lopp/status/472359052736204800)



Help us get more unbiased opinions on XMR devs' capabilities


Implications

The XMR devs are not capable of maintaining their coin as they simply do not grasp CryptoNote tech in full. Bytecoin developers are the ones who created it and keep contributing. Having such an enemy is very scary if you cannot develop the protocol yourself. And that is why XMR bagholders are so cruel to both Bytecoin and CryptoNote. They don't need such an enemy, they aim to discredit it. No matter what it takes.

If we go back to H1 & H2, we can conclude that everything you see about Monero is fake. The Monero developers are not able to maintain and update the coin they've hijacked from thankful_for_today. In the meantime, botnet owners secure their profits by promoting XMR through purchased accounts, black PR, and fake trades. They continue to lure you into investing into their botnet mined currency so that they can profit.

There is no way to tell whether XMR developers are related to the botnet owners, but the reality is that each time you invest your money into XMR you are giving it away to the botnet owners.

Hypothesis 3 is accepted. Monero devs are not capable of Monero development (at least as of now).


Conclusions & TL-DR

1. Monero is largely botnet mined.
2. The trade volume on the exchanges is artificial and is mostly created by the botnet owners that are constantly selling the coin to those who has fell into their fake PR hype. Occasionally the exchange rate is saved by the XMR whale. Fundamentally, XMR is doomed to have a negative trend.
3. The PR activity on this forum is fake. The Monero community is much smaller than XMR shills pretend it to be. There are a lot of purchased hero and senior member accounts and relentless black PR activities. Everything is aimed at making you part with your money to supporting botnet operators by investing in XMR.
4. XMR devs cannot make any significant updates/improvements to the CryptoNote protocol and are doomed to stick to PR hype only while helping the botnets profit.

Based on the evidence above you are free to make your own conclusions.

If you manage to read the whole post, you will understand that XMR is a scam coin that you should avoid. There are no fundamentals for it to grow and develop and we're going to see XMR value go down to zero in the next half a year. Hopefully, afterwards this forum will finally have a break from their shills.

anyway, i will hold my xspec...
we all know the risks of cryptocurrencies... all invests are risky... no matter in what you invest!
I used money what i "dont" need... hm, yes we all need money i know, but i used an amount of money what i can lose without suicide :)

How on Earth have jbg mixed up 1.4 code with stealth staking? How long is he taking to cherry pick a few commits?

- Why after almost a week jbg still does not know how much work is left to finish 1.4? And after 3 weeks of announcing that 1.4 was on time for the end of February?

Why has jbg lied in 1.3.5 release notes saying he has implemented "Automatic ring size determination for stealth transactions"?

Why has jbg lied about his software development experience? After a private chat with him, where he was of course trying to minimise the mistake ("everyone exaggerates experience") I had a recognized loyal member of XSPEC community telling me that jbg told him he has 25 years of dev experience, and he is in his 20s. This was not exaggerating, this was lying.

Where is Bryce work? Can jbg show his 6 months worth of development? Maybe to some XSPEC community longstanding members?

Does jbg think it's realistic to say that learning a code base, a few library updates, UI fixes, CI and ability to send money to developer is enough work for 9 months for 1 developer (plus one developer for 6 months)? What does jbg have to say about 3 independent reviews of his code (this thread you are reading, but also here and here) where we all agree he is not working full-time? Can jbg give us some proofs of the contrary? Also some people from XSPEC community agrees on this him.

Why is jbg talking about "zero reward" from XSPEC? The donation address in control by him received so far ~100k XSPECs, which in my opinion is a very good deal for what optimistically seems a part time job for him.

Is jbg planning to exit soon?

How many coins does Mandica hold?

I already spent too much time on this and I need to move on  :). For this reason I don't think I am going to reply.

I really have no idea what you're going on about. JBG has never "mixed up" 1.4 code with Stealth Staking. Not sure what you even mean by that.

- Why after almost a week jbg still does not know how much work is left to finish 1.4? And after 3 weeks of announcing that 1.4 was on time for the end of February?

If you were actually doing your research instead of camping BCT to spread FUD about XSPEC specifically (the reason you made this account), you'd see that JBG said this when asked:

Question: Not sure why have you mentioned bug fixing for 1.3, because like two weeks ago you said 1.4. is still expected end of February?

"Originally i was thinking i could pull a crazy week and get it done. I probably got a week to a week and a half behind working on v1.3 bugfixes and i thought i could pull long days for the rest of feb and get it done but life got in the way and i could pull no days for a while and right now i'm not really up to pulling long days. It will be over a week, just to make it clear that it's not imminent. Other than that, I don't think it's a good idea for me to give any indication right at this moment, because I need to take stock of what work remains and get a clear idea myself. I'll give an update as soon as I'm able."

He followed up and said a specific announcement about 1.4 will follow in the next few days.

What? Automatic ring size determination for stealth transactions was included in the 1.3.4 update list that was bundled into 1.3.5 release.

JBG already responded to 20 years of dev experience claim, so now you've switched to "someone" now told you it was 25 years and hes in his 20's. Mandica, who knows more about JBG than you and google do, has verified that hes not in his twenties.

JBG has already made it clear that Bryce's work will be shown when the time comes with a Ghostpaper and the code. An XSPEC community "longstanding member" isn't a merit for showing someone a game-changing proof of code to.  :D

Hahahaha, "independent reviews of his code". A random person on the internet who claims to be a software dev looking at a github repository is not as merited as you're making it out to be. Also, using the evidence YOU just provided, one of the threads states this:

It's true that it's a lot of library updating, but it's not like the developer only changed a handful of simple codelines, which preshpr1nce's thread makes it sound like.

The negative aspects for me when looking at the git repository are two things:
1. The developer is not good at commenting his commits, and even though the codebase was forked, he should also get better at commenting the code changes he makes
2. There were no commits after January 30st

However, the activity shown in the repository between December and January seems to show genuine efforts by a busy developer and the claims by preshpr1nce's post, while not being inherently wrong, seem to be largely exaggerated.

Soon JBG will only be rewarded through results-based payments from Staking Donations and then it will be up to a council to decide whether or not his changes and updates were worth the payment. Whether or not you think the 100k was worth the last few months of development work by JBG and Brycel is irrelevant because its all opinion based.

Again, not sure what you're referring to here, but before JBG's leave of absence, they had not withdrawn any XSPEC from the donation address from until recently. Which was what I assume the "no reward comment" stemmed from.

If he is thats a decision only he can make and know. As of now it looks like hes helping to develop a solid core team of developers for the project so I'd say no for the immediate future.

Not sure where this comes into play, she was the original founder of the project so I assume she holds a decent amount of coins.

I find it hilarious that in your original post you said:


Not only did you continue to respond to that thread, but you've now been a part of countless other threads while continuing to spread the same uncertainty and doubt that was the basis of your first thread. I find it laughable to claim that you have no horse in the race but yet you created a fresh account for the post and have continued to slam XSPEC since then. I appreciated the research in the first post but its clear that NOTHING is going to be good enough for you, or the other usual suspect fudders. My intentions are clear because I believe in the project, but what are yours?  ???

Jan 13 2018: 5.46 USD
March 08 2018: 0.63 USD

You say I haven't done my research, but I have. I have read that message and it does not answer my question. Because:
1 - mid Feb jbg says it's looking good to release by the end of Feb. So he knows how much work is left and he had a plan to finish it.
2 - jbg disappears and comes back in March
3 - jbg says he needs 24h/48h hours to announce another release date. This simply means he doesn't know how much work is left.
4 - more than 48h later jbg says he's not going to say a release date as "it's not imminent". After more than 48h, he still does not know how much work is left.
5 - today jbg makes an announcement saying it will announce something about 1.4 soon. An announcement of an announcement. And he still does not know how much work is left.

Can you understand now why I am making the question? And why what he wrote and you reported doesn't answer this question at all?

bla bla bla

This coin is absolutely CRASHING.  It is at $0.59 and crashing more each day.  You don't see this type of crash in the other coins.

It seems people are FINALLY realizing and seeing the true intentions of this coin and that it is a scam.  The people here really uncovered in these threads the true lack of tech in this coin.  Bitcoin Skull heckled me for my prediction a few months back when it would hit $0.90, but it crashed even WORSE than that.


I don't see this coin hitting more than a few cents in the next month or two.

Don't pretend like you're not buying lol.  ;D

Honest to God, I will and always have bought this greatcoin.  Especially after the revelations that came out the past few weeks lol.

This coin is absolutely a BARGAIN.  It is at $0.59 and is barely getting cheaper more each day.  You don't see this type of sale in the other coins.

It seems people are FINALLY realizing and seeing the true intentions of this coin and that it is a solid project.  The people here really uncovered in these threads the true level of expertise by JBG in this coin.  Bitcoin Skull corrected my son for his prediction a few months back when it would hit $0.90, but its even BETTER than that.


I don't see this coin hitting more than a few cents lower in the next month or two.

Lmao, shows how desperate people are.  They have to create a name similar to mine in order to disguise the truth.

Anyways, trying to fool the people is not in the best interest of people and reflects poorly on the user themselves.  The facts in this thread can't be hidden,  it just shows how low people go in order to hide bargains from people.

This coin is A GREAT BARGAIN.  It's an utter GREAT COIN, and the users here are trying to fool people (as seen in the above user trying to use a similar name as me)

Lmao, shows how desperate people are.  They have to create a name similar to mine in order to disguise the truth.

Anyways, trying to fool the people is not in the best interest of people and reflects poorly on the coin itself.  The facts in this thread can't be hidden,  it just shows how low people go in order to scam people.

This coin is CRASHING HARD.  It's an utter SCAM COIN, and the users here are trying to fool people (as seen in the above user trying to use a similar name as me)

Wow, 3 accounts for FUD of Spectrecoin with a terrible name, and thats just what we know about.

Thats like virgin level 1000, stay in parents basement for 3 decades, achievement unlocked status!

I can't tell if he made another account and is trolling his other account... or if hes just engaging with another troll. Either way, I'm not sure why hes entertaining responses.

I take it you will do the same!   I will message a few other moderators/admins, will you agree also to let the moderator publicly announce any usernames that you have?  So I can link them this thread and they will post?

I disagree with publicly posting ANY of my information on an otherwise anonymous forum. Wonder why I'm so interested in XSPEC?  ??? ??? ???

Well your accusation that it was me that created that other username I don't take lightly.  This board is anonymous in some aspects and users that create multiple accounts should be called out.

 :D You certainly take BCT forums seriously... oh wait... you made an account modeled after the current NK dictator... now I'm confused.

I guess you'll never know for sure.  ???

Now, could I at least get the admin/mod to confirm/deny that the username KimJung-il (not me, the troll one that was created) is you? And if there are multiple other account that post in threads about XSPEC that are linked to you?

XSPEC in December: $.35, $30,000 volume, and 3700 satoshis.

XSPEC now in a bear market: $.55, $200,000 volume, and 6000 satoshis.

10/10 growth, would buy again

Also, how come we only see you in XSPEC threads? Why don't you go in every thread for scam coins and talk about them?  ???

Also, how come we only see you in XSPEC threads? Why don't you go in every thread for scam coins and talk about them?  ???

Now, could I at least get the admin/mod to confirm/deny that the username KimJung-il (not me, the troll one that was created) is you? And if there are multiple other account that post in threads about XSPEC that are linked to you?

Lol.

Don't avoid the question.

I guess you'll never know for sure.  ???

No one takes what you say seriously. You show up in every thread with a parody account with giant red letters strewn throughout your rambles. Its laughable.

Your predictions are a joke. Did you also predict Bitcoin dropping? Can you see the future? Please, give me some more magical calls.

All these projects must be scams because they had such significant drops in value.

You're totally ignoring what I just said.  Please read what I wrote up above and respond to the question. People reading this know that you're avoiding EVERYTHING I said and they know you're dodging the question.  They can see passed your BS and it makes you look uneducated to be honest.

And those big red letters are saved for occasions when it's evident that a coin is a scam and misleading.

You're totally ignoring what I just said.  Please read what I wrote up above and respond to the question. People reading this know that you're avoiding EVERYTHING I said and they know you're dodging the question.  They can see passed your BS and it makes you look uneducated to be honest.


Current   = 1.44 (Mid-December)

1 month  = 1.20

3 month  = 0.90 - (MARCH 2018)

6 month  = .30

1 year     = .01

I've been spot on so far.  You've been wrong with every single thing so far.  And those big red letters are saved for occasions when it's evident that a coin is a scam and misleading.



I didn't do research or look into any of those coins, however the consensus is that if a coin crashes hard, there's a reason.  I'm sure there are reasons that those coins also crashed.  However, XSPEC crashed hard because it is now known that it is a SCAM.

Nucleus Vision — Blockchain embracing IoT (ICO Analysis)

https://medium.com/@n__sai/nucleus-vision-blockchain-embracing-iot-ico-analysis-90cad9c985c5

Note: The ICO has already happened, and demand was so high that the public phase was cancelled to prevent over-funding.
They have since conducted bounty and airdrops to distribute the coins to the public.

It has just been listed at Binance, and the typical whale-dump right after the ICO has already happened and it is now at its lowerst price for serious public investors to enter.

I have not heard of this coin before. I studied this project and I liked it. I plan to buy some coins for long-term storage. I hope that this will bring me a good profit.

IMPORTANT UPDATE

After having some extended discussions with @jbg, @beachguy and @RKh it has become clear
that @jbg does not support the upcoming XSPEC update and the changes it brings to the
network. @jbg has therefore stated that he will only support the “old” version of XSPEC and
collaborate with others and continue development on the “old XSPEC” which will be done under
the name of WISP. That means therefore that @jbg effectively leaves Spectrecoin (XSPEC) and he
is no longer the lead dev, manager or a spokesperson for Spectrecoin (XSPEC).


@jbg has stated that he will continue the work he has promised to the community (v 1.4) but this
will now be published under the name of WISP based on the “old XSPEC blockchain”. Please see
statement from @jbg when this is published. As the updates promised to the community by @jbg
will be pushed to a new GitHub open source repo, the official Spectrecoin (XSPEC) will be free to
work downstream from the new @jbg repo and implement the improvements coded by @jbg for
WISP as we will share the same code base, if this is deemed beneficial at the time of when the
code is released by @jbg. That means that supporters of the official XSPEC will get all the
improvements promised by @jbg although he no longer works for the project.


XSPEC will continue to develop with a vision of becoming a superior privacy coin and this split
will not detract from that mission. It is therefore possible that XSPEC and the @jbg version will
share code for a while but are likely to diverge as the code will be developed independently in the
future.


Therefore, there will be the official Spectrecoin (XSPEC) continuing as announced in a previous
statement with @mandica, @beachguy and @RKh as the core team and a new blockchain named
WISP where @jbg will the coder. @jbg will make an announcement around how this will be
implemented from his side.


Whilst we are in the process of hiring a full time professional developer for XSPEC, @mammix2
will step in as a developer and consultant and code the next version of the wallet as stated in a
previous announcement. This new version of XSPEC (likely to be known as v. 1.3.7 to bring it in
line with the latest Mac release) will bring the following two major changes to the network:
(1) 5% of the generated output in every block will be directed to a development fund.
(2) The PoS reward will increase to 5.25% per annum to compensate stakers who will not notice
a drop in the number of coins they receive.
(3) The donation slider will still be in effect and stakers will be able to contribute additional funds
to the project if they choose.


This will achieve a minimum of funding for development and contribute to a more professional
structure and work practices for the XSPEC core team. The accounts will be open and
transparent and the development work will be managed and checked and updates will be
provided. Once we are past the interim wallet update we will be able to finalise an updated
roadmap for XSPEC. There should not be any disruptions to the network. Simply download and
run the updated wallet when it is released.
The update will be in two stages:
(1) Upon new wallet release older wallets will be excluded from the network but enough time will
be given for everyone to update.
(2) At a predetermined block height the changes will activate with regards to the dev fund.


Make no mistake, Spectrecoin (XSPEC) is still XSPEC. The upcoming update is the official version
of Spectrecoin (XSPEC) and it is @jbg who has chosen to leave the project to start coding for the
new project known as WISP.
XSPEC will keep the official resources and forums for updates and information and the artwork
and other assets.



For every 1 XSPEC held at the moment of the fork, the holder will have 1 WISP
(the new name for that XSPEC) and also 1 XSPEC (of Mandica's new fork). You can
continue to use your existing XSPEC wallet to access your WISP, but we will
release an update that will include the new name and branding. To access your
XSPEC of Mandica's new fork you will need to download their forked wallet.

Statement xspec (https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/uploads-eu.hipchat.com/174406/5248110/n0cuEY6VfnAxVGh/XSPEC_statement.pdf)

Statement jbg (https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/uploads-eu.hipchat.com/174406/5248110/bhSqKU3bZD84ji8/jbg-xspec-statement.txt)

huge predictions here,,
in crypto everthing is possible,
but, its hard to be true if Xspec can grow up to x200 in this year
even now, as we can see the price is below $1 mate

Can you read?


No one takes what you say seriously. You show up in every thread with a parody account with giant red letters strewn throughout your rambles. Its laughable.

This coin has a bright future. Its no secret that I believe in the project. People like you throw around the word shill as if it actually means something. Anyone invested in a coin is going to defend it. Multiple people have responded, including the dev, to the fud you and your buds keep spreading. Only thing thats going to prove you wrong is time and releases, which are coming.

Aside from that, XSPEC has had solid growth. Alt markets entered were super bullish from Dec - Jan and a retrace was expected. There are plenty of alts that have retraced to similar levels. Combine that with a lull in updates plus you and your FUD buddies, the price is around where I'd expect it for the current market atmosphere. I'm certainly buying more as this was my preferred entry into XSPEC.

This is big news, not surprised either, his attitude after a lot of bad info was exposed suggested he was ready to give up, not sure what either WISP or XSPEC expect to come out of this, just shows how mickey mouse the whole lot of them are.

Thanks for sharing :)

XSPEC is actually the most advanced privacy coin out there. If the team sticks to the plan and we see a mobile wallet capable of staking and processing transactions, BOOM!

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

i will hold too... and collect the fork!
i bought the coins at a higher price... if i sell them now its only a big loose.... i will observe the 2 projects more exactly...
give them some time to develop and after all i will decide... sell or hold :)

10x is more than feasible. XSPEC remains a crypto that I'm extremely bullish on

XSPEC gonna fork on 1st of may so expect a price rise in the following days (there was a 20% price jump in the last 3 days already)

What do you think the future of XSPEC, will it do x200 this year or its just a hype coin?

Three months ago, ZClassic was at $1, went to $235 in Jan.

Is it good to hold this coin?

lol the coin almost doubled in price over the last few days, i guess people start getting excited for that fork

It's official. 

XSPEC = DEAD


Prediction (Mid-December)


December 2017  = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20 (JAN 2018)

3 month  = 0.90 - (MARCH 2018)

6 month  = .30  - (JUNE 2018)

1 year     = .01 (DECEMBER 2018)


Current Price (MID-JUNE 2018 $0.20)   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

This SCAMCOIN got a few people, but I was lucky to warn some people to stay away from it!

It's official. 

XSPEC = DEAD


Prediction (Mid-December)


December 2017  = 1.44

1 month  = 1.20 (JAN 2018)

3 month  = 0.90 - (MARCH 2018)

6 month  = .30  - (JUNE 2018)

1 year     = .01 (DECEMBER 2018)


Current Price (MID-JUNE 2018 $0.20)   :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

This SCAMCOIN got a few people, but I was lucky to warn some people to stay away from it!

I thought this was going under the water when the 'supposed' developer left, but now it's back under control I think it can really go places now and do a surprise pump. The technology is there and the team is pulling together, so I wouldn't rule it out.