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What I mean by straight HODL is that your hold through the crashes and the rises until you inevitably cash our and by trading I mean that you hold for a few months and then sell into fiat and wait for the expected dip/recession.
What i've noticed over the past years is that if I was less greedy and just cashed out after a reasonable profit and then held until the inevitable crashed, I would have made much more money than if i just held or bought another coin. 

An example of this is when I bought eth at 475 and sold at 1380.  Right after I sold I bought ltc at 230 thinking that it was gonna skyrocket after some of the money from the eth will flow back into the other coins.  The problem with that was that the entire market crashed and so if I were to just hold my fiat i would have been able to easily double my money. 

Let me know what your guys's thoughts are on this.

That is the risks involve. We don't know when the market will pump or dump. For now, I suggest that you hold your coins that you currently have and if you have more capital, take this opportunity to buy more coins. The crypto market is not green right now but I truly believe that this is just a trial in which when the market overcomes, will give us a stronger and more profitable industry.

Im definitely not selling right now but what I was getting at was that its very hard for bitcoin to or any other crypto rise 500% in price over the course of a year or so without experiencing bearish market periods that last for several months.

I do both, I have coins that is stored in my wallet and I will never use it , I will only sell it when it reach the target price I set and I have coins for trading.
 
I do not know how many people are doing a month trading but even with holding it on a months time there are still risks involve just like what happened in your example but what if the market did not crash the bull run continues and you could have tripled your money.

The strategy of holding for a really long term is less riskier as through thick and thin you will still hold the coin.

There is more POTENTIAL money that can be made in trading. It will just depend on your luck, strategy and emotions.

That's the exact reason why a good number of people just hold or "HODL". You simply just can't predict how the markets are going to move. Sure, people do technical analysis for a reason, but it only works to a certain extent in my opinion. If you like spending a good number of hours a day analyzing charts, then sure go for trading. But if you'd rather do something else throughout your day, then just hold.

Your definitely right but what im talking about is doing longer term trading not daily trading.  Market are more predictable over a longer period of time because after a period of large growth you can definitely expect a correction or a downturn period.  The risky variable in all this is trying to predict how long each of these periods will last and how much change in price will occur.

Ah. sure. Definitely a lot less risky doing long term trades. But still though, my point still stands. You really don't know for sure how the market is going to move. But it's really good to take profits is my opinion. Probably just don't dump your coins in one go; probably just a good percentage of your holdings just so you won't completely regret it if the prices skyrocket more after you sold.

this strategy is only working if you think what you are HODLing is worth it. for example if you really believe that there is some reason for it to be adopted more so its demand rises and with it the price of it in the long run.

for bitcoin, i do believe this and i think because of its limited and small supply and the increasing demand, bitcoin price will rise in the long run so that is exactly what i am doing with bitcoin, i keep buying and earning more and hold for long term.

but for altcoins i do not see this and i believe that there is a bigger chance for them to drop and never come back up again because there is no real demand for them and also they have ridiculously high supplies and some of them don't even have limited supply (no cap). so i only trade altcoins in short term.

You are right but it's not that always the price is going to crash imagine you sold and the price rose even higher you will then buy it back at a higher price thinking that this is a uptrend and price will keep on rising but finally completely opposite happens of what you expected
There isn't any ways of predicting a crash if you are lucky you will make profit else you will panic and finally make a huge loss

I'll make my explanations simpler. Inevitable crash is normal but in today's crash i cannot say its like that. The coin you buy and have a profit then transferred into other altcoins then a sudden crash happened. Straight hold is better if the case stays wherein you bought at very deep or cheap price example icx if you bought when it first available in exchange at low price $1 and get a peak more than $4-$5. At this point of crashing going back in $2 you are still in profit than selling at the peak and buying an un pumped coins then crash was a loss.

In my opinion you will make more money by trading if you do it correctly.

If you look at how many times BTC travels $1000 up and down imagine being able to trade those up and down.

You can make exponentially more profit however there is risk of losing money.

That is one thing that really hinders us to earn a huge amount. Our emotional capability and instincts thinking that "this may be the best time to sell this", or "this may be the best time to buy this coin while its price is down in the gutter". Then after some time, the worst case happens, either the coin that we thought that it will be the best time to sell it, turns out that its price increased folds than when we sold it or the coin that we bought thinking that the price is very reasonable also turned out that the price decrease lower.

I DO HOLDING AND SELL IT TO MY TARGET PRICE IS EASY TO THOSE WHO HOLD BUT BE SURE TO MONITOR YOUR TOKEN BEFORE IT GOES DIP!!!

I have tried both strategy with my altcoin and found out that I was missing the chance to multiply my total holding for really long time. Trading is best thing to do specially during the stagnant price like now, where price keep swinging few hundreds dollar everyday or multiple times a day.

I am doing day trading and already doubled my one of the altcoin.  ;D

Day trading will only work for those who have many alts or those who have a great value of that coin, I have tried day trading and when the price drops of Ripple before then next day arise, I sell it. It is a sure profit if we have time to watch the market every time..

Either way, it's still risky. Let me put it this way, okay? I made a huge mistake when I am trying to hold lots of them until I can make my first millions. Right now, I have lost more than 70% of the value because of holding it for the entire month of January. If I had sold some, I would have made some nice money in my pocket and reinvest some of those coins that are in the top 100. But if there will be a huge bull run this year, those coins are worth holding.

As for trading, it is risky as well. If you are not skilled enough to trade, there's a higher chance that you will be losing money. Even if you are a skilled trader, it is still risky and you can lose a lot of money if you're making a wrong move.

I agree but unfortunately there are no many people who can makes constant profit from trading, it needs knowledge of analysis technical to prediction of the price, management of money to reduce risk losing of money in trading activity. Personallity i choose short time investment in trading and long time investment in some the potential of digital coins in the future.

For newbies HOLD is the best suited for your money and to leesen the risks in your money pick or search the best coin other than ETH or BTC. Those two are currently unstable now. Maybe pick one of this LTC,BCH,XRP

You've got a pretty strange  understanding of trading. If your coin leave the exchange (which is obvious if you are going to hold them for months) then you are not trading this coins. That may be called investing but not trading.
Your example might be not fully relevant because the entire market crashed. As we see the major coins in long term are usually growing in price and the chance that LTC will grow over 230 is much higher then the chance of recovery of most coins.

this is also my conclusion after a couple of years of being around.
the "know how to trade" is the biggest part of it though, it is not easy but it is possible to learn over time and then start making good amount of money from the swings, specially the altcoin pumps.

but at the same time there is the issue with trusting exchanges. most people don't want to do that because they can run away at any moment, and each time an exchange scams a bunch of people, more traders go away or at least trade less.

The current scenario all the cryptocurrencies are fluctuating not only BTC or ETH. This is the right to invest in these two coins after June or July it makes more profit. LTC,BCH and XRP also good potential coins but these are all lower than the Bitcoin and Ethereum. But current market is unstable so no one is interested to invest in cryptocurrency.

worth taking into account the emotional/time cost of trading regularly vs HODL.
Time is money of course

Some people thinks that the volatile price massively are a rare opportunity , you should take it as an advantage not fear about it. But yeah it's always come with the risk , when you know nothing and force yourself to trade , you'll get a clear loss instead profits. Holding always be the best choice , you only need to avoid checking the price too often , just set what price you want and forget it for a while.

It really depends on the time you can dedicate to the activity. For me, for example, trading is NO WAY. I have a different main job and holding is the only option

I have been usually describing myself as a trader since I entered the cryptomarket. Although I hodl some coins I deeply believe in, I buy coins for 2 - 6 months periods. The biggest pain for shorter time frames are untrustworthy exchanges. The risk of crypto exchange failure / scam is so high that it strongly influences your potential trading account.  

In contrary, even more, investors are interested in the investment because that instability is their opportunity to gain big profit is a short time. The stable market would bring nothing to no one but smart ones are taking the opportunities and investing when the time is right. Currently, the time is still right to invest in the coins before they recovery starts ( correction phase has officially ended).
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In June, July Mr. Gox will again dump a huge amount of the crypto with the interests of rebuying after so then would be the second chance for investors to invest mass amounts if they don't have enough of a financial asset to invest now.

Holding or Trading as the case may be is neither good nor bad. It is all depend on case per case basis. Sometimes it is not advice able to hold and it may not be bad sometimes to cut losses by selling either.

There is one wrong thing you have done here.
You didnt realize that when ETH was in frenzy of the climb in price all the altcoins are also doing that.
You should have put a gap before buying again or maybe look at the graph of LTC if it already made a high amount of pump.

Waiting is also part of trading.
Actually now I have one order that is still not complete because it is too low for a buy rate, but I am willing to wait.

Since the market now is kind of crazy and fuzzy; this week it's like bearish but the week after it'll be bullish. So for me I think the best thing someone could do especially when the market is red is you just buy a certain coin you think will make you earn great profits. Then hold then until the market is bearish back again then you can start trading them if you'd prefer trading over holding for long term.

If we can predict everything correctly then we will be rich by now, the market is too unpredictable, after the crashing in January the price really unable to recover, after BTC seeking the moment to heal the bad news keep show up, I think the best now is just hold, it's going to take a lot of time to see the recovery, trading is too risky at the moment

Trading is far better than holding and I have benefits more from trading more than holding. Trading especially swing trading give high return than other investment and I have tested the two and find out that trading can give three hundred return in just a month and one need to be too over luky for one to actually make that amount in a month in one year.

That is always the right option to hold the coins because instead of selling them for cheap. Already you are working so it might won't be a problem for you even if you hold them.

yes 'cause that is the basic strategy when there's a worst situation in the market ,which is don't eagerly sell just hodl and monitor the price always or read some blog and articles to gain more information about the circumstances of price which if it will continue to grow or not. But for me btc is still a good choice to hodl in long term.'cause as wee see nowadays the price is gradually increasing and perhaps it will make a long jump soon. just put some patience on it and make some technical analysis.  

That is true that many people had decided to HODL the coins when they were at its best in the hope that their prices will be even better in the future. It is always hard to say when you should sell off, in this case going with the gut feeling is all we can do. Some gets profit after HOLDing and some looses the values by high percentage. It just depend upon timing and some instinct. For example people are happy that they sell off bitcoin when it was $15000, but they won't be happy if value reaches up to 20000+. It is just the matter of time.                     

Both is necessary for a healthy gain. Some coins should be hold for a long time to get a desired return. Besides, some other coins should be used for trading to capture short term gain.Trade can eventually help to average buying price and maximize profit.

I completely agree with this and i figured out where the money usually flows after one coin gets pumped, but the problem with me and probably a lot of other people is that after i cashed out of ethereum i went and bought litecoin due to fomo.  I think the hardest feeling to overcome is fomo and in my opinion its even harder holding through a crash.

People always ask this or that, what is better, more profitable, but for mW that questions are stupid because each of us thinks differently and we all have different set of skills. What is better for one isn't necessary better for others, I know holders and traders that made a lot of profit, and traders who just lose with trading. We all know that holding is a safe way, trading risky but you can make high profit very fast. I do both, I have something on a side, that should everyone have, but I have some amount for trading too, the best to be in everything you can, if you are capable for that.

But until now a long time holder makes lot of money than a long time trader,so hold is the best option when compare it with the trading because trading needs lot of effort and time but in holding we just need to buy bitcoin and keep it for some years to make money and the profits will be more than trading in my knowledge.But holding will not suit for all the coins so we need to pick right coins if we want to hold.

As long as you don’t sold any during the markets crashed you don’t lose anything, but if you sell because you panicked its hard to recover the loss. These market is very tricky that’s why timingbis very important and lowering greed is the key to make good profits.

I think that it is always better to diversify investments into more crypto because in this way the crypts that rise compensate for those that fall.
The question is different if the whole market goes down or goes up. in any case you should not be greedy thinking that the value of a crypto continues to rise, or have panic if it continues to fall. In this world we need a lot of patience.

I think it's very easy to advise, but it's quite difficult to choose a really good project or a coin. At least this is the only and difficult task for an investor or a trader.

So you wamt to earn money without any effort?
If you want to earn money then you need to find the good coins but it is already there buy bitcoin which is the best ever crypto currency to invest.

Straight holdings gives an earning where the price increases high, and it is the risk free method of making an earning. Same time trading requires a continuous buying and selling making use of the price fluctuations. Here the risk is big and to the same the earning we make compared to that of straight holding is big.

I've never been good at trading, I HODL all my coins, plus I don't have time to sit around and execute or place sell/buy orders. I've made excellent money just holding good projects, ie.. $NANO, $NEO, $ETC, $ARK

It is always a good thing to consider holding when it comes to investing in bitcoin. It is an additional way for us to earn and to gain profit which could definitely help us to earn more and have more capabilities to start another investment in trading in other cryptocurrencies in other words, option for us to manage and to analyze, we could hold bitcoin at the same time deal with other ways we could earn.

not at al times, because sometimes its good to sell what you hold and to buy again when it deeps more. Another is not only bitcoins is good to hold, the altcoins that have a high possibility of making a good price because of its potential is very much worth it to hodl.

from your experience, I think you need to look more deeply for the ltc because I think litecoin still need too long before it could increase and I don't see that litecoin will go up in this short time. but I think you could still hold your litecoin until the price is up again and I hope that you still have another money in your wallet so you can continue to trade. but I see that you can make a lot of profit for selling ethereum and I guess you learn from your experience.

Yes LTC need more time to grow up, you have one more option to get back your loss that is day trading. LTC price is fluctuating b/w $10 - $20 so if you are a pro trader you can use this opportunity and slowly earn back your loss but this is too risky.

Same here, all of my picks that were included in my past portfolio have failed. Every time I see a coin that starts to rise up, it suddenly crashes when I bought in. I don't know if it is bad luck or something else. But, the way things go around when I'm trading is really bad. I always think that trading didn't really suits me well.

I tried holding last year within 2 months and that's the time when Bitcoin price go crazy. Well, it didn't turn out good as well. I enjoyed holding my coins and completely forget to monitor the price, so instead of gaining little profits, I end up with a bad result.

With the current situation of Bitcoin now, I no longer believe in straight holding. Just want to share a piece of why my heart is broken. Last year at the peak of Bitcoin, I opted to not withdraw because I believe it will still continue to balloon. (Yes, I have been so greedy then.) Now that the first quarter of 2018 is about to end and considering closely the value of Bitcoin to date, I can say that it was a not so good decision after all. Had I chosen to realize the huge profits I made in 2017, I would have been able to use the money I earned to venture in other operating businesses -- something more tangible. With the very unstable market, it is best to always realize your profits no matter how little you make as long as it is on a regular basis. It is one definite way to ensure your investments are in tact and will not turn water.

   Your heart is broken with the first trouble! What you think how it
must felt for people after 2013, they waited for years $20k to come.
   When Bitcoin price rushed to $20k people felt optimistic, $100k
were possible. People wanted to buy at $20k and sell on $100k. All this
people now suffer from loss, never buy when price is rising. I am not a
trader and I know that. I am holding and buying more, I do not cry or
suffer cause price is dropping.
   Be ready for new bottom and years at $3k-$5k price, that is the same
like in 2014-2017 when price were $300-$500 price, now price have one
zero more. Next time when Bitcoin start to rise in couple years we can see
$200k, hold!

Holding is the best strategies for all of us who are busy in somethings and can’t find way to monitor the market 24/7. Personally, I just buy good coins at a lower price, and sell if its already hit my target price. Either you trade or just hold, sure profit will come to you if you have your goal.

You are not mistaken in your thoughts this is why tether was created the problem is like always timing the market and that is something that is impossible to do in a consistent way, this can be exemplified with what happened last year, where many people sold their bitcoin for a few thousand dollars thinking that was the top and it wasn't and the price reached a mark close to 20000 dollars.

Holding is something which you can only do once you dint have need of having money on urgent basis and that you are comfortable with keeping your coins in your wallet for sufficiently greater time. however, trading is really a tough job to do and for that, you need to do all of efforts and hard work. It all depends on your personal capabilities as well as your daily routine and interest which can help you in deciding the things.

Holding is just less risky than trading and that is the advantage holders enjoy over traders. Moreover, it also depends what a person is holding. If it is bitcoin, he can make a good increase in the capital within a short span of time but other than that there is no good in it. Similarly, bitcoin trading can bring the most profit given that a person has the essential expertise. The most important thing is that trading is fun and a profession. 

I always thought that hold would be the most profitable and safe way to trade the most when it comes to the times when the market is storming. But it can be seen that in order to become a holder, it is important that you have a strong mind and can study and research potential projects that can grow in the long run. These are very important factors for you to make a profit. If you do not control the capital you will be confused between hold and trade that is extremely dangerous and will require you to lose capital slowly.

A lot of people always end up sentimental or drawing conclusions when they should obviously do some research to know the real thing before commenting. Trading or holding both depends on the individual level of knowledge. Where trading requires a lot of knowledge, holding does not require much unless to understand what you are investing in. However, from what supermine said, that is absolutely untrue. A trader will always make more in the long run than a holder, as you keep making more as a trader from the fluctuations, but like I said, it is not for everyone.

There are three conditions where you must trade or HODL.
1. Market is on the rise then day trade half of the invested money and HODL half of it.
2. Market is stable then day trade 75% of the invested money and HODL the rest.
3. Market is CRASHING then HODL but harvest in certain rises and buy back more when it goes down further.
Note: This is not a trading advice just an trading approach  :).

Hodling works for me; however I keep a certain stop-loss in mind depending on the coin, and try buying back more at a lower price.

Expectations. One of the problem that many of us here are dealing with.
Even with bitcoin, if only I had sold it at 20k dollars then I made a lot of profit now.
But as a holder you are expecting more specially when you have loads of it. You can feel every increase even if it is just for a dollar or a cent.

They say it is just because they are hoping for more. Well, I call that greed.  ;D
It is hard to learn to be satisfied, mostly traders have this kind of attitude, you always want more.

Exactly! That is why we don't need to rush things, we can still do better, price can still go up, if people did not withdraw their coins when the price hit $20k and we are still holding that time then maybe the normal price right now is $20k + but we cannot blame people, it is their choice.

There is no doubt that the holding process is full of the profits and guaranteed profits but it must also be kept in mind that the amount of profit after the holding is very less than the one with we can get after the trading. The important thing here is how much time do you have for this market because if you are committed in the other things than it will be difficult for you to do the trading so go for the holding else you can trade for better profit.

This is always been part of the risk on this very volatile market which if we do think up some strategies either a straight hold or actively trading price movements would really fucked us up.Market would never be always our friend and there were decision have been made along the way which would be the reason for us to regret later on since we do realize that we do missed the best chance for us to make money and thinking that we can able to use those profits to diversify out into another coins.

These altcoins have little buying prices and same little selling prices. As you have talked about LTC that it is in between $10-20. This is really risky to even trade in it. Because price fluctuations are so low that you can lose it if even little careens is shown.

Although buying prices are affordable for most of population but see the complexities they have. Go for smooth and easy bitcoins that have high fluctuations and easy trading.

Well, one thing I have come to know with the cryptocurrency space in general is that what you have as a huge value today may actually end up being a bottom tomorrow and a lot of people one day may wish that the market would even crash to $20,000 so they can buy lower after they have missed a good opportunity of buying now.

It is always what it is, and even if some people think it is all about selling and buying lower, you may end up making the wrong decision if you have no trading knowledge.

That's always how things go. I remember how people when the market reached over the $1000 level gain last year, they thought it was the perfect moment to unload some profits. Instead, the price kept going up further in such a rapid manner, that holding was the only right option. Sellers, even when it was to secure profits, became losers after every week that passed.

After that, $2000 was the perfect time to sell, then $3000 was, then $4000, $5000, $6000, etc. It continued all the way till near the $20,000 level. That just shows how you should avoid selling any of your coins during an ongoing bull run, because it will very likely results in a bad ending. Securing profits will feel like you swallowed a loss in such scenario, which is a mental aspect of this market that people can't handle, especially when fomo starts to kick in. People just don't realize how brutal this market can be from time to time. It can give you a lot in the short term, but it can also take a lot away from you even faster if you can't handle the stress. Small fishes get eaten raw for breakfast in this market.

Best approach it is for a person who don’t want to get indulged in complex calculations for profits and losses the whole day. All those are doing day trading, ask them about how their day spend? And you come to know about so sad comments.

They are bound to get connected with news and price charts because if they show even a little carelessness, all their hard effort can be on stake.

None of us can know anything but we can at least use our sense, the indicators, the movements in the candle based on price action to know what to do. It is always good that whenever taking the step of trading, one should always have the knowledge but the truth is some may not even have the time, and would rather just hold for as long as they can without bothering themselves about what the market is going through since they already understand the volatility of the market and they have other better things to do.

In simple words from my experience, holding is the thing I am doing from day one and trading has become possible for me after gaining some knowledge on it. In same way, holding is for everyone and for any time but not trading.

Yeah it might just turn out to be hog in cog that people will hold all the time. If they would have been holding even when the prices are dropping then, wow miracle will start happening in the crypto currency because it will make the prices of bitcoin grow and grow forever. Do we need proofs for such holding process ? Then imagine people from the old days when thy bought the bitcoin at couple of dollars and forgotten about it for years to come. Later I the time they found that they were millionaires because they just hit the jackpot when prices per coin were increased. That is the thing, when we know about it then we get nerve wrecked about it and when we dont know anything about it we are just playing around it. Thats why ignorance is bliss.

The so called "HODLERS" are people who cannot trade. Trading is much better than just holding lmao.

For as long as you are not going to use or sell your coins yet at loss then just keep on holding it for now. It may have crashed currently but it will eventually recover back once the price becomes stable. I am actually at loss as of the moment but I am holding my coin for long term so I’m not that worried yet.

I experienced when I bought a doge in 60 and a few days the doge climbed up to 100 more but I have not sold, the wait may rise higher, it turns out the doge down now, there is a sense of regret. the most painful now I still hold NXT high price, if I sell NXT now my shadow I will be destroyed, I can only wait and rarely open the market.
I often experience late in selling and it happens repeatedly  :(. "HOLD" Delayed profits

That is the beauty of this market. There is always a way to get benefit out of the situation, whether it is the pump phase or dump and during both of them, there exist a community to take advantage of it. Indeed, decline is an opportunity for those who wish to join a specific crypto community. Digital coins have a bright future especially bitcoin can make a person really rich within two to three years, depending on the amount he invests in it.

Well, we all experienced great dump today and yes we can't totally avoid night mare at nights and we are all doubt of what we hold since the king of crypto and the reason of crushed. Well, mate we need to hold on until something great and good happens in the market.

Hodling is ideal for long term coins. Selling also in profit allows continuous cash flow. Investing when prices are low to get higher profits.

Holding is a part of long term trading if a person buys back his sold out asset at low price again. Similarly, selling out is also one of the activity of trading but if someone just plans to hold it for few years and then sell it out permanently, he should go for trading whether day trading or long term one. That can make his capital to rise more than just simple holding on. Trading is all about buying and selling at right time but that is difficult too.

Trading is a huge risk, there is absolutely no doubt about that, but at the same time, it is a risk worth it as long as you can manage and handle yourself. No one was born as a trader, or with the skills to start analyzing charts, we all ended up learning at some point, gaining some experience afterwards, and getting good as time goes on.

As long as you are committed to learning, you will always end up making the best use of the market volatility, if not; straight hold is the best option.

Holding is usually done with the coins where you have invested much of your money and you don’t want to lose anything with them. It is human psyche that we don’t want to give up soon on those things where the return is possible in huge amounts. Plus the holding is the most comfortable and tension free method of making wealth with virtual currencies because we know that they are bound to pump and dump.

This is the biggest dilemma of this market rather it would be nice if we label it as the charm of this unique market. This produces thrill for the investors because they are never 100% sure about the future of their coins and the consistency of their particular prices.

Trading is basically a full time job and there are proper job specifications and descriptions for the trader for making profits and earning bonuses.

I would only resort to HODLING purely when I have bought something during as its lowest point, typically this coins I bought are during ICO launch where you can buy them at its lowest. This is a privilege/advantage for people who have believe and trusted the project since the announcement of their token, I wouldn't have to worry about the dips or crashes as this is also an opportunity for me to buy more. Also I can sell whenever I want because even at a Dip is a profit for me. Buying at a good project has this kinds of benefits.

If you understand and know how to do trading then you are likely to profit more in it than just holding it because you can get more coins as long as you constantly take profit with some losses from time to time. However, there are others who choose to hold the coins and do not waver when it comes to crashes because they believe that it will be much more valuable in the future but then after getting impatient, they sold the coins at a loss. There are others who choose to hold their coins because they are being emotional when they trade resulting most likely to a loss. It happened to me wherein I doubled my profit but I didn't take it and then afterwards, the price crash and I decided to sold it because I need some funds. I decided to do short term trading and take profits and losses according to my trading plan.

The essence of the investment is to sell the bought coin exactly when it reaches the point of sale. You determine the point of sale for yourself. . So you sell a coin only when the coin can give you the profit that you have planned.

Everything comes with a risk, just that the risks are totally different. Investment too comes with its own risk, so you still have to understand your area of investment before investing so as to at least hold something potential and understand everything so as not to make wrong decisions.

Although with trading, you require a lot of skills and knowledge to be able to trade, so in that case, you have to know what you are doing even as risky as it is, but you can make a lot in the process than just holding.

Personally I just HODL all my assets. Sell them now is not smart decision. Because according to TA (and I believe it) in the second half of this year we will see hard rise of whole market and it will update historical maximum.

This is something that is sometimes overlooked, holding becomes way easier if you really do not have any kind of need for that money if that is not the case then holding your bitcoins is going to become almost an impossible task because you are always going to wonder what are you going to do to pay your bills or to pay your rent and you will always think of your bitcoin as a way to overcome your problems, so first you need to solve all your economic problems and then you can hold bitcoin.

I completely agree with this and this is why I always tell people never invest more than they can lose when they ask me for trading/investing advice.  Having extra money that is not tied to any bills or expenses is the only money that you should be investing because if that money is tied to a time constraint such as rent or the electricity bill then you could be forced to sell in a downtrend when you just want to hold.  The same thing applies to people who buy crypto using their credit cards, if you dont have the money in the bank to already pay it off dont do it.

Obviously, and we also have to understand that if you do not know how to trade effectively, the amount you are holding can go lower if you trade and you would have been better off holding anyway.

I feel we always miss the truth and let people go astray by thinking they can just sell anywhere and buy anywhere, without any knowledge on analysis or how to make use of indicators and that has made a lot of people to lose out a lot at the end.

Now due to lot of FUD in a market, price of all the coins in red map.So this is time to hold your coins, it may be Ethereum, litecoin, Bitcoin or even Monero.If the price of certain coins is we can sell them and inverse in rest.But now,the price of all cryptocurrency is low and just hold your coins.

Only 10% (in the better days) of BTC is actually trading. That's why the markets are heavily manipulated.

Hodling is an internet meme (started here) that people mistook for a financial advisor.

A lot of peeps forgot that bitcoin is supposed to be p2p electronic cash. And not an asset.

Simply holding is really a boring process and will never allow you to grow your bitcoins so I will prefer to go for trading and investing in different altcoins with good potential either to rise in short term or in long term and it can give me huge profits in quick time which is never possible with holding coins and that is the reason I will put my vote on trading different coins daily instead of holding it too long.

I dont think bordom is what most people think about when trying to make a money.  A disciplined investor will wait patiently if he/she has to to keep their money safe or grow it.  Second of all, growing your bitcoin or altcoin stack is one way of looking at investing but most people really only care about growing their fiat stack a.k.a making money.  Growing your crypto stack is not a bad thing but it does come with the risk of trading and for u.s traders it comes with extra tax issues because each trade is considered a taxable event.

No matter how you do this, whether trade or HODL, there are risks involved. There will always be times when the market will pass through a bearish period which might take a long time like we are experiencing now. It always happens, but the good thing is that after experiencing all that, it will skyrocket and go above the last highest price. I will just say that both ways are good, if the other doesn’t favor you, the other one would. So the both are good.

That is the reason why I always mention that trading is a proper profession. It is not a fun or a game that you can play just to make money by few random clicks. Here in trading you have to define your future by making those moves which are logical and are designed after deep market analysis. It is not like gambling where you are just relying on your fate to increase or decrease your wealth. In trading you are responsible for your moves.

You have concluded rightly already anyway and it seems a lot of us have been in the picture already trying to hold even in this so called huge correction. You have raised a valid point, but obviously not all of us can just sell at once and the market at some point will always get greedy which is why I always prefer a steady growth than a speculative greedy growth but for someone who can trade this change of trend, then it is always the best.

When you are lacking in knowledge on where to buy or sell then straight holding is the only way you can manage making profits from trading. You must remember one fact : holding is also a kind of trading but takes more time still produces equivalent profits.

HODL without any aim is a nonsense acting.
HODL till which price ? There should be a target to HODL if not you are loosing your time and also your money.

In this moment, I completely agree with you, since it also allows you to control the whole process and be at least more or less confident that your profit will be real. But this can not be said about investments for the long term.

this is the plan of the investment but if we apply this in the cryptocurrency then it will not work like that because the price could go into any place and if someone is not strong enough to see the change of the price, he will be stress and he cannot think about his investment. the investment in cryptocurrency itself means that we don't use the coin for some periods and if the price is not too good then we have only had two option which is still held or sell before the things become worst.

When you trade, always trade for something less volatile, and this is fiat. Your marchandise is crypto, and your objective is to increase your stock
Hodling is not the best strategy, but wise trading is. Analyze the market and play by the established rules, not by your feelings or assumptions

I agree trading is more wisely because you earn profit in every single day, yes we can earn more profit by doing hold but it took so long ,we need to wait for how many months everytime we hold but if you can do trading then do it.

A lot of people practice the slowly earning back your loss with that for sure, but it is a whole lot risk to trade and doing that is just more like trying to day trade which if you are not careful without any knowledge or experience on trading generally, anyone will always end up missing it and even losing more. Straight holding is always good if you cannot trade, but trading is better as long as you are sure you can.

Straight HOLD is not applicable to low cap coins. It is available only to the current top 10: BTC, ETH, XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, ADA, XLM, NEO, IOTA.

Low cap coins are good in trading, usually it pumps upto 2000% in a single day when the owners decided to do a pump and dump scheme. ;)

Trading is much better way of making money rather than straight holding because when you hold then you might miss an opportunity to make a trade that can double your position and that is why trading is the best since you are always updated on the market and you know what is going on so you can easily take advantage of any possible opportunity in the market.

We all know about that, but holding has been proven many times as a superior strategy, many people say that day trading is the best and I will not deny that the potential profits that you could get there are incredible, but how many people are able to produce those profits? A minority, the rest of the people will be better by just keeping their bitcoin and not selling until they reach their target price.

Trading is good but its not easy to do so, yes it can actualy tripple your money but you must considered the risk. Straight holding for me is much better since you don’t need to stress yourself reading the market from time to time and it can also make your money grow over time.

If I had been less greedy I would cash in January whereas I have made 3-5x in a few coins and waited to hold more by believing that the market would go more and now I would have 5x more money than I have.

These things happen. No one really knows when is the ideal time to buy or sell. Have you asked yourself, If you sold in January and it kept going higher? You would feel bad too. I panic sold most of my holdings in October 2017 and today, most of those coins have to really well. Like I sold PowerLedger and dent at super low prices at that time. Now I'm thinking hodling would have been a much more better option. These things happen.

I think that both hold and trade are ways to accumulate profits in different periods. You can easily see that with trade you can be proactive in managing and using your capital anytime, anywhere. As for Hold, you are frozen for long periods of time and you can only hold and profit when the market is in the uptrend if the market is down you hold then you will certainly lose.
 
In essence, hold is also commercial but in the long run.

There are risks involved in the both of them, but I will prefer to combine the both of them. Hodl is a good idea, but it’s only the best option when we talk of a long term investment. But as for something that takes a short time, then Trading is the right choice. Of course there will be loss always, same as the gain you will make from it. If you’re so lucky by the end of the day the profit you have made will be greater than the loss so far. When you are an expert you will hardly lose money. But as I said before, I prefer both of them; I trade and I also Hodl.

But that is precisely the issue with trading if you were able to predict exactly when the market is going to change its direction then you could make a fortune very easily but no one can know that, think about all the people that sold bitcoin for 2000 thinking that was the top only to realize that the market reached 10 times that value, even at the current prices if they wanted to enter the market again they have lost money.

I’d go for straight HODL because when my coins prices went up like twice the amount of how much I bought them I already took the capital out so basically all that’s left mostly are just my profits and gains from what was left. I was pretty amazed I still got some left if I neednto encash them to fiat but that was what most of my trader friends told me before I started trading, to not be greedy and take the capital when you think it was enough for you to take capital.

Trading requires skill, or it requires someone you know who has skill. It has potential to be more profitable than holding, but not everybody can do it. It requires lots of time and skill. You need to be researching coins and using your brain for most of the day. I would suggest to stay clear of bots unless you really understand the principles on which they are based, so can modify the trading rules to suit the current environment and patterns the bot looks for to act upon.

I've found that my fallback is simply hodling. However I will often trade to increase my position in a coin I will hold to death rather than sell at a loss. Its improved my returns significantly.

Well people have different approach towards this and as long as it works for them then good. I also favor hodling than trading simply because i can't spend too much time monitoring the market movement. Hodling gives me free reign over my time without really stressing over drops in price

Some people are just holding because they do have lack of time, but nevertheless they are still earning, it is not matter how much you are earning what matters  is how much you are doing/maximizing what you do have depending on your capability and availability.

Personally I always recommend hodling for a newbie in Cryptos the other aspect which is trading is very risky although it is more profitable of which income can be generated within the shortest period of time unlike a hodler who have to wait for days to become profitable. why not hodl your coin as beginner while learning how to trade?

To be honest, i think holding is the best advice for newbies and or anyone who does not know how to trade or has not had success trading.  In my case, i've not had a lot of success trading/day trading and in many cases i ended up losing money.  So my main strategy for the time being is to hold through the bear market and then sell at what i think is a good price.

You can see that the market is beginning to uptrend in the short term so at this point you can either trade or hold in the short term are able to collect a lot of profits. At the moment This is a commercial plan because bitcoin prices are constantly increasing rapidly and the market is recovering very strongly. Short term trading is still more advantageous at this moment.

when you're a trader , you'll realize that you lose too many opportunities when you're a newbie due to Holding principle. But later on will find ways to earn in any means.

Personally, I find straight hold to be a better option for me. I find it hard to predict where direction is the crypto market going. I have several altcoins which I have been holding between 1 to 3 years. I am still in profit and I happy with it.

if it still gives you a periodic profit even though it is not as big as expectations, then keep it running, we do not need to be driven by high-volume coins to get short-term profits, just pick one each day and stay focused on holding the majority of coins specified, active and growing, you are very true in this regard.

Whether straight HODL or trading, it’s all good and none of them is bad. I know a lot of my friends that are making a lot of money from trading and also using HODL as a form savings and growing their wealth. So if you’re good in trading cause that’s the main biz, you can do it and store the rest of your coins and HODL them to grow a bigger amount of money. But if you’re not a good trader then HODL is your best bet, you can still trade a little bit to be trying your luck as you learn it.

I've came to more of a realization that what your saying is actually very true.  I definitely have not had any success daily trading but for those who have, i bet theyr making a killing.  I think the only thing stopping me and many others from succeeding at daily trading is knowledge barrier (like you said) which will only come from trial and error which costs a lot of money.

This is a good experience to share to everyone and helps them understand that a market wont go up forever..always look for a good entry and TIMING, its very important when you do trading..Investment are really risky so hope you make good decision next time..

to be honest I prefer to trade than just holding the coin you have because I think when the assets you have stuck in the coin then you will not be able to get profit again because you do not have capital for trading so better not too long to hold the coin you have.

Yeah everyone has different concepts about trading. Some people don’t allow their investments to take such long time to yield profit. They are time conscious and they want urgent money coming back to them. But there are some legends too who are holding coins for long term. They may have a salaried job so no tension for earning daily. They can hold for long and long times.

I honestly think that it is better to hold for long term and not trading daily. Crypto markets are highly volatile due to which you cannot exactly predict the movement of the market where as prediction are easy to be made for a longer period of time. Also, trading involves doing technical analysis and studying the charts which makes it really a tough job and time consuming. Even if you have a lot of passion for your trading its better you trade only with a certain percentage of funds that you have so you are not crushed by the volatility of the market.

The more you take the risks, the more you will have a greater profit. Trading is kinda different from hodling. When you want to be more productive and have more profit then you should learn and try trading. Don't do something that you are not good at. At the end you will what you already have.

That was the risk and sad to say most of the time you need to risk for you to learn something. If you don't do anything and just watch how traders do you  will become a straight holder. There's nothing wrong with holding and trading is only an options for you to make more tokens or coins while holding.

Hodl is the key to make enormous profit because the market prices is so volatile and no one knows when to pumps up again.Nowadays, trading is too risky because the volume rapidly decreases in a second or minutes so for us to be safe and secured better to hodl first until prices increases at higher price.

But having a high risk will not guarantee you a greater profit because it's still uncertain that with it you'll earn more. So yeah if you think you're not capable of doing something you didn't actually know then just stay away from it. Personally, when I just started here I prefer to hold as I see this the most safest for a beginner and until now I still prefer this over trading, it's not that I don't want to take risk but I just want a more and surest profit.

You're wrong about hodling. Hodling isn't a bullet proof  or risk-free method of making money in the crypto space. I've seen several cases where continuous hodling results to much losses. They're many Cryptocurrencies that are still unable to beat their all time high prices. In such cases, trading would have been a much better option. I'm not in any way saying hodling is bad... Just making it clear that It's not 100% guaranteed.

Better to experience both ,it depends of our strategies .We can compared both trading and hodling coin for observation and what the most efficient ,I think if we have patience of hodling coin we can get enormous profit someday when prices regulates higher rate while in trading it depends on us, if we like to earn quick profit we can daily trading coin .

To my opinion I think straight holding is not really a good idea
because you have no assurance what specific time that you will be profitable or what while in trading industry you are going to earn an income or profit in daily basis, in short they have a assurance about your income.

I think there are two types of traders out there.

Those who has less experience in trading and in whole crypto, tend to rather HODL in my view. It is quite understandable to me, not taking too much risk and hope for the coin to moon sometime. Unfortunately, there are many charming ICOs that have a nice-looking project with massive media hype, but many of them fall strongly after the first couple of days-weeks.

So I guess you could never know for sure, but I would rather invest in project that I truly believe in- of course it is not a warranty for anything either.

First of all, people always force themselves to choose between trading and holding, but that's completely unnecessary with how both can be done at the same time. Holding doesn't require any action or attention after the initial purchase, which grants you enough time to do other things, like trading. Second of all, trading doesn't and won't ever bring in daily profits or any sort of assurance. Trading the short term market represents uncertainty due to all the variables that can and will work against you. If even well stacked traders can't profit consistently from trading this market, how on earth will regular folks manage to do that? Trading the short term market is trading against the unknown.

I like to HODL because I basically dont have enough time for trading everyday, I am trading just some times after all errands

Straight holding is somehow a good idea for me, although youre right about "theres no specific time frame" on when will a certain coin become profitable on your edge. But, what makes it good is the possibility of the super pump, since most of alts are capable of pumping very high.
While on the other hand, daily trading doesnt guarantee a profit everytime, there's an underlying risks behind it as well. Every activity you do here in crypto space doesnt have an assurance.

My thoughts on straight hold is during the time that it happens then there’s no assurance or exactly of time when you will be profitable enough in this business because you are waiting for the right time unlike in trading you will earn an income in daily basis.

holding is good for short period of time we cant completely hold the coin expecting long-term benefits market volatility is a major issue and if we talk about trading need patience to enter the trade and close the trade

hodling actually meant for long time only first of all. Then recent days increase the number of ICO tokens and altcoins we are really worry that we need to buy and wait for the shit coin to bump in the future so these are the problem when do hodling for some years or anything.
Still there are some coins which can be good for the investors you may check and invest on the market.

Earning at daily basis isn't stable mate, we might loss our capital all the way because sometimes it will crash your coin's value. Every motivation in trading needs to focus on long term or straight hodl, in order to to achieve that profitable value. It sound surprising when you noticed the price of your coins increasing in the exchange markets.

For Newbie Like me i Search More About Hold or Trading. For Trading Good to Buy Xrp ,Eth for Short Term Trading And if you Want To Straight HOLD you need To Buy ah New Coins at Lowest Price  With Good Potencials.
I Think Both Hold and Trading :)

This is normal, and i think that sometimes it is better to hold because you know that you are never going to loss your money in a long term. Trading is good if you want to make a quick buck in a daily basis

I dont like holding because then you are totally depending on a price. Trading - you are increasing continuously your funds that you own

Continue trading when you are not losing but when you lose, its HODL time.  ;D

I know and I think it's interesting but what matters in my opinion what the coin is going dip? and whether at the time we buy and hold it in the future will go rise? I speak in the period of 1 to 4 weeks. I think you also need to advise why after you buy ETH and sell it then you move by buying LTC, I think we can get some suggestion in choosing coin.

Well! Well!! my opinion is; if i bought ETH for example at the rate of 600$ and now it sell at 497.93$, all would advise myself is to hold for a better day to come before i sell out because if i sell out at 497.93$, i loose almost 102.07$ which will hurt my pocket even my wallet. I will strongly recommend that Holding is reward-able than selling at RED.

Well said, and before you go and invest better to know first if you can handle the risk and how long would you go in the situation like this, better to keep holding if you really trust the project but if you just did a wild guess then better to also have a stop and loss, project that has no future usage will be ended as a dumped and you will just wait for nothing but a sad doomed to your money.

actually, I don't like too but if the conditions in the market do not support us to do day trading, then hold is only our way to wait for the price back to the higher price. and if we keep trying to sell the coins, we cannot make a profit because we sell at the low price than the price we buy the coins. so holding is a good solution to stay away from the loss of our money. but if you have another strategy, then maybe it will work well for you and you need to calculate how much you've lost and how much your profit.

unfortunately now Bitcoin and Altcoins one way, when Bitcoin go up, then Altcoins up and Bitcoin down then Altcoins also come down drastically.

maybe you can be more patient to buy more Ethereum at $ 400, because market cryptocurrency nobody knows when it will go down.

I always see the starting point of rising Altcoins price to buy back.

I believe that at this time hold will definitely not let you profit from trading that the risk is much larger, you can see that the price of bitcoin in the past few days is fluctuating strongly and now has fallen to the $ 7500 mark. The price of bitcoin drags down the price of altcoin, the market is bearish in the long run so I believe that at this time you should trade the day to be able to minimize the risk.

when you are trading, you stay very active, and it brings you a lot of fun. Meanwhile, doing it,  you are risking a lot. When you are holding, you stay passive but here the risk is minimal as I think.

No one cab accurately predict the market and its outcome. During market crashes, the best way in my own opinion is to HODL through thick and him as no one knows when the market is crashing and when its rising. Trading is good if you understand how it works but you can't accurately predict the market

For now today I am sick and tired about holding because it gave me nothing just takes, so I'm about to start trading or something else I don't know for now but I'm enough of holding. Already lost instead of earning.

I think the risk hold is very high at this point, you can see that the market is fluctuating continuously and very hard to guess, bitcoin prices are constantly adjusting and fluctuating very strong, so at the time I believe that you should only make short-term investment and trading day to be able to secure profit. The market is in the downtrend phase so the bitcoin price will probably drop sharply at any time.

In bullish season HODL is good. Otherwise trading makes you earn good amount of money even the prices falls.

It totally depends on your time dependability. If time allows you, you could be involved in day trading with some coins and HODL for long term gains unlike day trading as well.

You should not lose hear. It Is not the time for bitcoin to take a U turn and start its price increasing, in fact people are waiting for the bitcoin price to increase for a long long time . they think that bitcoin price is expected to increase too much in December 2018 and I think it will be much good for those people who bout bitcoin in a high price and still holding it.

If we hold, we take too much time, can wait long and do not know when they can rise again. But if we do not wait and decide to sell early, the price of coins is very low

Always applying the same strategies is bad for efficiency. The same strategies are not always applied. Sometimes you need to go for a strategy change and that change increases this gain and efficiency. This situation saves you from entering the loss and the situation I'm talking about is viable for nowadays, the market is so unstable for right now, therefore I suggest you do hodl for now.

My thought on holding my coins straight than trading it, it is the best to hold your coins right now because the market is low, and be patience to wait to have a good value again.

Mistake and regretting is normal, learn from that mistake and
make sure to take proper precaution next investment :)

If the decision to hold is a factor that will help you succeed in the big future, just hold onto waiting for the market to rise again, it will never be hard for you to profit from the cryptographic market. I think the end of this year will be the price increase of all the coins

I have seen this comment many times now and I think that depending on any bot is not a good decision for a trader. It is good to have computers doing task as these speed up our work but trading needs not to be done in a hurry. Besides, nothing on Earth can really compete human brain. Bots do not have intuitions and IQ like we have.

holding is easy , but the most difficult thing is controlling our emotion and psychology while looking bearish market.beginner investor usually become panic with this condition.

if you ready to hold you must be prepared for anything that will happen with your investment, maybe don't open market that list coin which you invested. it is can help better than be panic and do wrong things

I think now the holding is better and this decision will make you billionaire once the bitcoin listed on the stock exchange and the price will be more than the thought about bitcoin and crypto now.

What would have saved me, or at least the value of my wallet, would have been the proper use of stoplosses. I've lost a lot on the way down, would have been better to get stopped out a couple of times and buy back lower.

Holding is the best way for you to break through the moment, the market is extremely difficult, may recover in the near future, so trust not to give up too soon.

I think the straight holding is good thing to do but it is obvious that it is too risky
because we can’t say what will happen next unlike in trading business there’s a assurance of earning an income daily.

This is another form of digitalization, but I think human brain made computers, computers didn’t make human brain. We are always more active and accurate than these computes. Although they are much helpful to human race but still we must do something on our own that is the only way for becoming successful. They are programmed and can’t go outside that boundary.

The simplest rule that you need to understand in investments is always to fix the profit, you do not need to believe that your asset will constantly grow. Your Deposit has doubled, cash out immediately 100% and wait for the next growth of another 100% and do so every time, then choose another asset.

If the market keeps going up, HODL will perform better but if it is the way it is since the beginning of this year trading results will be better provided your brokers allows you to short it.

I think both are profitable if we make it at the correct time. Straight hold needs to keep more patience and money as well but day trading needs the minimum amount of dollar for trading. Straight hold can give you a very big amount of profit but day trading can’t. Day trading has low risk but straight holding has high risk. For straight holding, we need to predict correctly if the market goes down or up but in day trading need to watch market some quick.

The market is fluctuating continuously and is in crisis when the price of bitcoin and altcoin are constantly decreasing. I believe that at this point hold will not be able to bring you profits, the market is in downtrend stage so I believe you should only invest short and bitcoin on trading. I believe bitcoin prices will probably continue to fall sharply from now until 2018.

I think this is the good time to buy more coins in this downtrend of the market, There are so many coins are good and are available at their down price that makes your investment into the maximum profits that are why I suggest to buy some good coins and hold it until December for good profit.

that the problem bro, we dont know about future, you might able to predict it, but it will not always accurate, sometime miss.
and if you hold fiat money until 2 last week, you can buy much coin in the deep price and sell it for late year, but yeah this is crypto anything can happen.

I think direct ownership provides income where prices rise high, and that is a risk-free method to generate income. The same time trading requires continuous purchases and sales that utilize price fluctuations. Sometimes it's not advice and can be held and it may not be bad sometimes to cut losses by selling well.

I thought straight holding is okay and good to do always but I’m wrong because of the conflicts of the business that they encounter while day trading is a daily basis of income there’s assurance.

 ???depends what kinda person you are in many cases holding is better

I’m usually more on straight HODLing, especially Ethereum. Been holding my Ethereum since it was between $200-$210 because I’m so hyped with Ethereum 2.0 and DeFi. It even reached $408 before crumbled down to almost $300 and went up back again to $380+.

Same thing for the other tokens I am holding for the past 2 years like TRX, Steem, Hive, etc. As for trading though, it would be good if you’re a skilled trader. Not just by means of buying low and selling high, but analyzing the chart, patterns, candlesticks, etc.

If you want to HODL it straight, make sure that you think long-term of that coin or token you bought.

To be honest, straight hodl is not my favorite strategy for making profit, because patience is needed. Straight hodl can work well
if done long-term, then coins with strong fundamentals that fit this strategy. Like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin and Ripple. The advantage
of straight hodl does not require much time to monitor the market, we only need to monitor the market twice a week.

Indeed and this is the reason why I chose to be a long term hodler.

I dont have time to monitor the market few times a day because of my daily job thus I chose to buy a good coin and ideal to hold for long period then sell the price reach my target price.

So far im not disappointed that I use this strategy because I already gain profit holding for long period.

HODL has become the normal for crypto supporters of certain projects. They even started a different name for themselves. I think it was codl. :-\
https://i.ibb.co/4F7Z2Tg/in-crypto-we-trust-hodl-prints.jpg (https://ibb.co/Cwz567s)

Why not do both? Even HODLers will sell a small amount at some point, which technically makes them traders as well. I like cypto that has actual use cases so I guess it depends on what you purpose is in the first place for having crypto. You can always HODL an amount on a cold wallet and trade and then you can put profit back into the vault. That way you dont risk your savings.

Every holder is a trader at some point because they might sold their cryptos when they needed it and bought it later for cheaper price so literally they are nothing but the long term holders.We need to store the cryptos in a wallet as you said but I will maintain separate wallet for storing the profits from trading so it will be easier to track the profits made from crypto trading.

Holders will still sell at any point. There is no point of holding it if you will not profit from it.

The reason why we hold because we're waiting for a better price to get rid of it and take the profit with us. I do both. I hold and I also sell if I see a good point of price to sell.

Personal opinion is that you will invest half of the money you have and you can save half which can be used for your future. If you are willing to take the risk you can invest half of your money and use the other half which you can use if you lose later. In other words, a good decision depends on what time you are making a decision but if you say how much bitcoin you have bitcoin is better to wait and see right now.

Straight hold is the better option for those who have little or no experience in trading, it is very easy to loss money in trading if you don't know how, but straight hold on the other hand has less risk, just hold and wait for the right moment to sell, I do more of straight hold, I have my personal job to attend to so I can't commit myself to trading.

In some cases holding long term seem to be the better option, currently as I make this post eth is trading at $396 which is a decent amount of profit from your entry point, but we have to realize that not all coin/token are worth the long term hodl, some are better off short - midterm hodl because of the nature of project development and team dedication,
If you continue to hodl, I believe it will yield more profit for your investment, eth is top project and be can be rely on.

I think I would go with trading.

Still, this depends on how you wanted it. You can't just do trading if you doesn't prefer it, right? Another thing is that trading is more risky than holding but the thing is that trading has a higher chance of giving a profit. With a lot of altcoins with potential in the market, there are still those that is scam and won't survive the market.

I am not agree to hold maximum token for long time. Obviously i will sell if i got 1/3 price that i targeted first then i will try to trade but not for all coins. I must research that coins roadmap, team sprit, market volume..etc everything. Yes at present time BTC and eth can be hold for long time as their market volume, trust is good but if i go for maximum tokens its my bad decision. Finally i will say fiat money is everything always as we don't know when market will pump or dump. So if i got lam sum money form any coin i must sell it.

thanks.

When is ETH supposed to go PoS?  I thought it already had for some reason.  And as far as any PoS coin goes, holding long-term is probably your best bet anyway, as the real advantage in any of them is the income they generate.

I've never been into active trading, not in stocks and definitely not in crypto, which is far more risky IMO.  I get that traders can make enormous profits because of the volatility of altcoins (especially the crappier ones), but I don't have the balls or the stomach for it.  I'm all for holding bitcoin for the long-term, as I think we're going to see a new ATH within the next couple of years.  I thought bitcoin might even get there in 2020, but the whole COVID-19 thing kind of derailed its momentum.

Another reason I don't actively trade is that I think technical analysis is a bunch of voodoo witchcraft nonsense.  The only time it makes any sense to follow charts is when there's a very obvious bull run, and in that case you just follow the momentum.

Well, I agree and the bolded part above. I have been seen many prediction and a lot of technical analysis but non of them give accurate result, it seems they are specualting and guessing the market movements. We know that there is an obvious bull run, --first, because of having that had months passed and I think few months after halving happened there's an effect on the market and we were waiting and expecting this bull run will happen. Second is, the adoption of crypto especially bitcoin has been increase and also the usage on it, it is also a chances to have bull run.

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I am prefer on straight holding and waiting for bull run. Trading is good, but for the non full time in crypto, trading forex or in crypto is very risky, you need to give up your permanent job and choose one, --which is I dont want.

Holding for a month is still the same thing as HODL, but it wouldn’t make any sense to just hold for a month when the price is going nowhere or even falling. It is usually best to hold your coins for a long time and wait till the price goes up and you will make better profit. And it will be good if you are aware of the right time to buy your coins, when you want to Hodl , times like this that the market is calm and stable is always right to start your investment so that by the time you hold it for long you will probably make profit.

It is better to keep it for a long time but sell it if the price goes up. If you expect more profit, the price of the currency often goes down. Now that the price of the currency is rising a lot, it is better to hold than to trade. If we invest and hold on in the long run, it is possible to get double profit if the price goes up. Before that, the market volatility must be maintained by checking the value of the currency. Bitcoin and Ethereum are good currencies to hold.

The two things you have explained are still HODL. It all depends on you, how long you will be able to have patience and what your target is, and of course that’s if you do have any target; some people whenever they want to trade or invest, they always set their target which is something that they are okay with.

Hence, if you have target and you HODL your coins or token for some months and then reach target, you can sell instead of waiting, or you can also decide to wait some more if the market is still showing more signs of an increase.

You have to observe the price index, portfolio of risk, possible return and you want to be an investor for a long time. If you want quick gain then you can trade in a short time. Both of them have their gains or losses. You have to make sure that in which platform you want to play. It is an uncertain platform but you have to ensure certainty of possible gains.

I know what you mean but the two options are relative, I mean it depends on market conditions and how much risk you will take. In terms of profit, straight trade is better because it maximizes the range of volatile market values, but when you enter the market the atmosphere will be different. Even so, straight trades have a higher loss rate than straight HODL. Straight HODL is suitable for users who do have high trust in bitcoin / crypto.

the thing that deserves to be done even though it is holding back, but if you can still trade for altcoins which are really profitable because it's time to buy because there will be another upward movement.

I keep trading even tho holding gives me more profit, but I try to buy for hold in the dip.  I think that trading is too difficult for average people so they should opt to hold rather than trade.
If you are the trader who earns (10% of all traders) that trade not hold. Simple as that you could say that, but you won't be able to trade successfully if you do not trade, I heard that to be a successful trader you have to practice, trade with real money.

Why do many people suggest HODL instead of trading, of course there is a reason. Because it is very difficult to predict crypto prices
in the market. So from that, my advice is better HODL your coins, which is certain to successfully use the HODL strategy you  have to
choose which coins popular and has high volume. And we just need to be patient and wait until our sell target is reached. I've used this
HODL strategy several times, and the success rate is quite high.

yea, it's pretty reasonable i think. it's not wrong to actually think that X coin will go skyrocket and have a shine in the future. but in the end your choice is not something what you have expected. i am pretty sure it's just not you whose experiencing this thing when you are pretty sure that they will get pumped

Depends on how investors make money and most people now only care about profit when holding a coin.

I don't care if the project has potential or not, but just being able to raise the price well will definitely attract a lot of investors. Of course, very careful consideration is also required as all coins in this market will depend entirely on the price of Bitcoin.

why so trading always seems more profitable it is pretty predictable with pump and dumps

It is profitable but associated with high risk compared to holding for long period. Despite of having your own analysis and strategy when you trade sometimes unexpected things tend to happen that can lead to losses.

It might be easy as it seems but it requires knowledge and patience, plus you need to set aside your emotion because it is one of the problem why we are committing a mistakes.

Thus for a person who dont have time to monitor frequently the market, hodling is the best option to earn.

Straight hodling in my opinion is not the best way to have a bitcoin but it is the safest, not best because your bitcoin is stagnant and WYSIWYG and it is the safest because you are not experiencing losses which but at the same time profits. Trading on the other hand is risky but the reward is promising although it varies depending on how good you are with trading which is a requirement in itself because if you are not good at trading then you will just be losing money.

same thoughts alts should be nice and easy to trade

Many people thinking that HODLing is safe, much safer than trading, this is not so obvious IMHO. How to determine best time to start HODLing? Now, if you look back to the past prices of Bitcoin, you may think it's too late. But when you wait for several months, you regret that doesn't bought Bitcoin, when you thought it's too late. If you has confidence to buy it, price may go up, until fear will step above of euphoria, and then you sell it, not holding for long. This type of HODLing reminds the bad trading strategy. If you beleave in Bitcoin, you need to hold it, not to sell it for the piece of paper, but to await for the times, where goods will be measured with Bitcoin. This is true HODLing, any other time before that future, is risky speculation. If you can't wait for too long, then go for trading, where risk and intelligence are struggle to determine the future of your wallet.

Without popular, well known and strong crypto currency, straight holding is not right way to earn huge amount. Trading can help to earn good amount of money. But many people still believe that holding is also investment.

I find that it depends on the coin you're into. Some markets allow you to HODL and not have to worry about the volatility as you're so much in profit you can't lose - that's the best position to be in. In some markets though, it would make more sense to trade. The latter also depends on experience, risk and personal preference as well as time. I don't think there's a wrong or a good answer here as it all depends on the markets you're in and individual strategy/plans.

From now on if I feel like spending my money on something stupid, I'm buying crypto instead. and then hold trading seems complicated with all the fees and KYC

They are decisions that do not have to be rigid with your assets, you can survive between both waters and obtain profits, it can take years for the hodl get benefits, so maybe takes for the one who trades days, but it is not absolute result; as it is to lose and recover, the The trader lives in the daily constant of balancing, recovering and making a profit. It is complicated depending on your time and skills, you have to leave a percentage of investment in hodl and another part in trading.

The truth is that few people actually hold. Most are people who are simply protecting assets or wasting potential. It all boils down to short actions and shots. People are impatient

- The ability to wriggle and stand between gaps to take advantage of nooks to make money is something everyone has to learn, instead of trying to point out the weakness of different methods but unfortunately, even when understanding the theory of this process, the utilization cannot be maximized because basically, traders are not an easy activity, many raging waves have crushed their pride, very few people can overcome. Most people just like to hold and watch their profits in the future, the method is basic and rudimentary but the efficiency is higher than the continuous exchange of knowledge and adventure

Yeah, we won't really know what the future of the market will be. We can only predict what the future market will be, and that will not always be true. This is the risk, it is true what he said. I want to add a little advice, as we are faced with the choice of hold or trade. Which one should we choose? You can choose one, or you can run both. If you want to choose to keep trading, then don't fully use your traded coins, use about 25% to look for small profits. Because if we incur a loss, it wouldn't be that big, compared to what we are trading all of our coins at now. For 75% of your coins hold first, because I think the current situation will be profitable. If you feel, selling it now will not be profitable for you, I think it's enough for you to hold it until the price starts to stabilize again. Because a promising coin, if the price decreases, the price will go up in the future or return to its normal point.

And one more thing, don't spend all your funds to buy the currency (coins). Because it will be very necessary, if we want to reverse capital when the market is stable.

From my experience holding is better than trading. If you do a good research and find a good project you can get x10 easy in some long term. And beside that trading is not easy and takes a lot of time and knowledge.

Same thoughts but if you do make out some balancing then you would realize which one is worth for long term aspect.For trading then it isnt really something complicated.
You can trade up without the need of KYC and fees arent really that high most of the time which these factors shouldnt really bother you out because its not actually
a problem that you can really face off when you do tend to deal with the market.When it comes to trade and holding decision then this do matter most
on someones preference because not all would really be having that patience when it comes to that.