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Title: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 30, 2013, 12:22:21 PM
Ok, so we all know the current Lottocoin logo rocks but we think we can do better.

Below are some examples submitted by another forum member who is asking 3BTC for the re-design.

We will pay up to 1BTC for same/similar (you put forward the design and your price).

Personally I think the current logo but with a 3D 'chromed' finish similar to below would be perfect, but feel free to submit something if you think its better.

This is our current logo

http://f.thumbs.redditmedia.com/ZrqUOCif9XxjhMQq.png

This is more like what we are after:

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/fd/b5/d4/fdb5d4a07046ee84494346dbfec22e8f.jpg


http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/21/a0/27/21a0277cdeb492751f1d728f0d1caae3.jpg

http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/originals/b8/f0/df/b8f0df77e84cbba55a335bda9c9510d8.jpg

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/59/76/39/597639d2a4d4072a9500e570dc1a5fe3.jpg

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/33/31/cf/3331cf89bc83c6cbc90797dee9398524.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on December 30, 2013, 12:35:06 PM
i rather like the current logo, its not over the top, just right i think


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: ist2012 on December 30, 2013, 12:37:42 PM
How about putting six lotto balls into the logo of Lottocoin to replace these stacked gold coins? This can make the meaning of this coin more intuitive.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 30, 2013, 12:38:19 PM
i rather like the current logo, its not over the top, just right i think

The design change is not set in stone. We will simply look at the designs put forward and may accept 1 or none of them.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: syrusek on December 30, 2013, 01:05:53 PM
http://oi41.tinypic.com/ofwmfc.jpg
If You'll choose it, pm Me.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on December 30, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
tonight i will take a deeper look in this. Will create a new design. For now check this out.
Iīm open for any feedback/tips you got for me :)

Thanks for feedback

http://s14.directupload.net/images/131230/hsxuckxp.png (http://www.directupload.net)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 30, 2013, 02:41:35 PM
tonight i will take a deeper look in this. Will create a new design. For now check this out.
Iīm open for any feedback/tips you got for me :)

Thanks for feedback

http://s1.directupload.net/images/131230/jmyqizbw.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Your on the right track. When I say 'chromed' look I mean 'shiny'. Gold is best color.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Pythonideus on December 30, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
Obviously just a shitty ms paint but how about something like this, where the coin looks like a lottery ticket?

https://i.imgur.com/sRudCEg.png?1?5475


sidenote: Is it just me or is the lottocoin-qt way slower than any other qt?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on December 30, 2013, 03:03:25 PM
Your on the right track. When I say 'chromed' look I mean 'shiny'. Gold is best color.

Ok thank you, will redesign it. :)

Is there a official deadline?
Is there a voting or will you decide it?





Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on December 30, 2013, 03:26:16 PM
i like the idea of a chrome gold surround on it,


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on December 30, 2013, 04:41:11 PM
Your on the right track. When I say 'chromed' look I mean 'shiny'. Gold is best color.

i like the idea of a chrome gold surround on it,

I think i got you both. Check it out!
Let me know what you think

http://s14.directupload.net/images/131230/ozn6p47p.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Iīm so into this Coin. Really curious where it will be in a few months.
I hope you like the logo. If not tell me what you would change. And i try my best.

If you want to help me to get started. I would be so happy for every donated coin.
M7iD4NzeUKUER48myg5SQuhGHjpgqQVuxK

Thank you and keep your feedback commen :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: albertdros on December 30, 2013, 04:45:33 PM
Your on the right track. When I say 'chromed' look I mean 'shiny'. Gold is best color.

i like the idea of a chrome gold surround on it,

I think i got you both. Check it out!
Let me know what you think

http://s14.directupload.net/images/131230/ozn6p47p.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Iīm so into this Coin. Really curious where it will be in a few months.
I hope you like the logo. If not tell me what you would change. And i try my best.

If you want to help me to get started. I would be so happy for every donated coin.
M7iD4NzeUKUER48myg5SQuhGHjpgqQVuxK

Thank you and keep your feedback commen :)

sorry but that lens flare is crappy.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on December 30, 2013, 04:53:10 PM
shiny liquid gold that has a mirror type look is what I ment, the type that if you looked at it you could see your reflection


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: chalkyuk on December 30, 2013, 05:13:12 PM
some nice designs here.

Is there any fourcets for catcoin. As a newbie to it all i sure would love to own a few
9gvgcfD1wHyjv6hNvhm5PAPB1MhfSmodn3

thanks


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on December 30, 2013, 05:19:07 PM
Update:

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/4ny7kqcu.png (http://www.directupload.net)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: digicoin on December 30, 2013, 05:40:26 PM
I will try :D


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on December 31, 2013, 12:37:31 AM
Update:

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/4ny7kqcu.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Cut and paste? thats never been a vector, the middles all blurred.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 31, 2013, 02:10:20 AM
Update:

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/4ny7kqcu.png (http://www.directupload.net)

Cut and paste? thats never been a vector, the middles all blurred.

Yea the lines need to be emphasised. More of 3D/embossed look would be better.

See a a couple examples I found below:

http://www.montereycompany.com/wp-content/gallery/embossed-soft-enamel-pins-gallery/embossed-soft-enamel-arroyo-50-year-reunion.jpg

http://www.montereycompany.com/wp-content/gallery/custom-coins-shiny-gold-coins-coins/shiny-gold-coins-veterans-service-coin1_reverse.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 31, 2013, 02:16:07 AM
hello oldminer, hello lotto coin community,

here is my contribution for the mentioned lotto coin redesign.
I hope you like it  ;D :),

have a great New Years Eve!

BTC
1L9rWyjBV21BY2qgASUbkQ7mu84wovaE5u

http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/12/31/rONB.png

http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/12/31/QDCU.jpg

m_j

Thats nice. Maybe a bit sparse though, but I like how you have added the lotto balls. Your on the right track too. See my examples in the above post.

Also, as I stated before, we will not necessarily be going ahead with any logo's submitted as at the end of the day it is the coin dev' who will decide, however I will personally make sure all good submissions are rewarded. :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 31, 2013, 02:22:53 AM
http://oi41.tinypic.com/ofwmfc.jpg
If You'll choose it, pm Me.

Nice effort, but needs more 'wow' factor.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: eddilicious on December 31, 2013, 02:34:15 AM
http://oi41.tinypic.com/ofwmfc.jpg
If You'll choose it, pm Me.

that is a 649coin  :D


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: luckygenough56 on December 31, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
i"m so bad at this ;)

http://s1.directupload.net/images/131231/dd3f7qu2.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 31, 2013, 11:55:44 AM
i"m so bad at this ;)

http://s1.directupload.net/images/131231/dd3f7qu2.jpg

Thats very good. Can you do a smaller version of it, and also can you make the words stand out a bit more (ie bolder/more pronounced)? Its brilliant the way you have put the lotto balls inside the curved window :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: luckygenough56 on December 31, 2013, 12:27:35 PM
Can't do better with my limited skills. Hope it helped though.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/khyx58aq.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on December 31, 2013, 10:37:29 PM
Can't do better with my limited skills. Hope it helped though.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/khyx58aq.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Looks great. So far this is the pick of the bunch. What's your asking price for it?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 01, 2014, 11:05:23 AM
Can't do better with my limited skills. Hope it helped though.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/khyx58aq.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Looks great. So far this is the pick of the bunch. What's your asking price for it?


The lottocoin text needs to be highlighted more. Other than that looks good


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on January 01, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
Can't do better with my limited skills. Hope it helped though.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/khyx58aq.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Looks great. So far this is the pick of the bunch. What's your asking price for it?


The lottocoin text needs to be highlighted more. Other than that looks good

Yea the lines need to be emphasised. More of 3D/embossed look would be better.


yeah looks not bad but... I donīt know how i should think about it. You used my pic to finish it. I mean i got no probleme with that. I would have given it to you when i would get a small piece of the pie. But you didnīt asked me.

Any comments?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 01, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Hi, here's my submission:

http://imgh.us/lotto1.png


Thanks


This is awesome. What program did you use?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: flipstyle on January 01, 2014, 03:57:46 PM
I agree

he pretty much just copy pasta'd skillrun's design and skewed it onto a pre-existing coin vector (and it's not even centered well/correctly).  Only thing he really added was the lottery ball transparency layer, from what I can tell.

Just my 2 cents


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on January 01, 2014, 04:07:54 PM
I agree

he pretty much just copy pasta'd skillrun's design and skewed it onto a pre-existing coin vector (and it's not even centered well/correctly).  Only thing he really added was the lottery ball transparency layer, from what I can tell.

Just my 2 cents

seeing this made me sit down finishing the Coin. Will update.
Hope you can waite a bit before you decide.
Thank you
Have a nice day


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 01, 2014, 05:43:49 PM

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7b/64/db/7b64db624021586c54eb34b534735cd9.jpg

This is the sample... For 3 Bitcoin you get:

1 NICE CRISP BRIGHT  HIGH RES VERSION WITH NO WATERMARK  + 'embossed' 3D  stars in a semi circle around the top 'L'
2 THREE MORE VERSIONS WITH DIFFERENT 'SLOGAN HEADERS' to be used for promotion
3 A 'Cut Out' VERSION ON TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND


Lotto to da moooon!




Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: syrusek on January 01, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
#Funky
It's not worth 3BTC, seriously


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 01, 2014, 05:57:55 PM
funky thats worth like 0.2BTC at best. you need to make a physical coin too. also 3d

Conceptual design, but ill post more. (this is not the final product at all. did  it quite quickly)

https://i.imgur.com/LPtZWit.png
https://i.imgur.com/lUpnbwk.png

also have another logo in mind, completely different style

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSX73uWeLOvaKDhCbWcKoDKJxNOXH6Jd1qk3RSMtNhWGp99z3fm

similar to the one above in red


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: holzer on January 01, 2014, 06:00:23 PM
Can't do better with my limited skills. Hope it helped though.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/khyx58aq.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Looks great. So far this is the pick of the bunch. What's your asking price for it?

Personally I think this looks terrible. He also just ripped off someone else's design. I think the transparency layer looks too busy and it overlaps the text. Just looks amateurish. Also its not even aligned properly. The coin looks like it protrudes outwards.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: holzer on January 01, 2014, 06:05:32 PM
Hi, here's my submission:

http://imgh.us/lotto1.png


Thanks


Now if you could do this in a gold color and use one  big fancy  L like here http://www.keezi.com/lotto/ I think that would look pretty good.

Take a look at these logos people made for quark. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325086.380 This is the quality you should be looking for at the price you are offering. My friend is a professional graphic designer and Ive seen him do logo's for around $800. Don't settle for crap.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 01, 2014, 06:13:58 PM
.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 01, 2014, 06:17:30 PM
newsflesh please, let me know how you did that physical coin!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: syrusek on January 01, 2014, 06:45:35 PM
hello oldminer, hello lotto coin community,

here is my contribution for the mentioned lotto coin redesign.
I hope you like it  ;D :),

have a great New Years Eve!

BTC
1L9rWyjBV21BY2qgASUbkQ7mu84wovaE5u

http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/12/31/rONB.png

http://www.anony.ws/i/2013/12/31/QDCU.jpg

m_j

looks great !! +1
No it don't

#OP
Stay with Your current logo.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: jdwi31 on January 01, 2014, 07:15:37 PM

looks great !! +1
No it don't

#OP
Stay with Your current logo.

submit a better proposal


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 01, 2014, 07:16:38 PM
the round version
one of my favourites
in gold

thats awful. check the quarkcoin redesign. youll know what quality means then


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: newflesh on January 01, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
newsflesh please, let me know how you did that physical coin!
This is awesome. What program did you use?

Thanks guys, it was all designed in Photoshop. I've made a custom style that uses emboss/gray gradient to make a 3D-like metal effect. Each part of the coin I changed the gradient angle slightly to give it more depth.

Now if you could do this in a gold color and use one  big fancy  L like here http://www.keezi.com/lotto/ I think that would look pretty good.
Take a look at these logos people made for quark. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325086.380 This is the quality you should be looking for at the price you are offering. My friend is a professional graphic designer and Ive seen him do logo's for around $800. Don't settle for crap.

Yeah there are some amazing logos on the Quark thread, I've still got a lot to learn but getting there slowly. Think I will remake this as a gold coin, try and make it more like some of the OP's examples.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Hampuz on January 01, 2014, 07:30:43 PM
Hey guys! What programs do you use to make these logo's?  Would appreciate any answer :)

cheers


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 01, 2014, 07:31:09 PM
newsflesh please, let me know how you did that physical coin!
This is awesome. What program did you use?

Thanks guys, it was all designed in Photoshop. I've made a custom style that uses emboss/gray gradient to make a 3D-like metal effect. Each part of the coin I changed the gradient angle slightly to give it more depth.

Now if you could do this in a gold color and use one  big fancy  L like here http://www.keezi.com/lotto/ I think that would look pretty good.
Take a look at these logos people made for quark. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325086.380 This is the quality you should be looking for at the price you are offering. My friend is a professional graphic designer and Ive seen him do logo's for around $800. Don't settle for crap.

Yeah there are some amazing logos on the Quark thread, I've still got a lot to learn but getting there slowly. Think I will remake this as a gold coin, try and make it more like some of the OP's examples.

Do you know how to make a real 3d physical coin? like a vector model? Cinema4d??

@Hampuz

Photoshop, illustrator, cinema4d

no comments on mine??

https://i.imgur.com/lUpnbwk.png

The concept doesn't work, right? let me know fast
If not, i'll look into other logos asap. i need to know


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 01, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
My try. I didn't go too far from the original, I just made it better ;)

https://i.imgur.com/Q04oHXV.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 01, 2014, 07:53:35 PM
My try. I didn't go too far from the original, I just made it better ;)



That's really good remake, but I think that's not what the OP is looking for though. No stacks of coin piling on the logo, no big "LOTTO COIN" text right in the middle. It needs to be slick, minimalist, and physical... (= 3d version).


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 01, 2014, 08:37:07 PM

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/19/77/04/197704c110bd5ff6a1550eaa6a64ade5.jpg

Tweaked Version with the stars... For 3 Bitcoin you get:

1 NICE CRISP BRIGHT  HIGH RES VERSION WITH NO WATERMARK
2 THREE MORE VERSIONS WITH DIFFERENT 'SLOGAN HEADERS' to be used for promotion
3 A 'Cut Out' VERSION ON TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND


Lotto to da moooon!




Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on January 01, 2014, 08:37:14 PM
http://s1.directupload.net/images/140101/9sjbi4wj.png (http://www.directupload.net)


If anyone uses my design like #luckygenough56 we gotta devide the price money.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 01, 2014, 08:52:05 PM


Tweaked Version with the stars... For 3 Bitcoin you get:

1 NICE CRISP BRIGHT  HIGH RES VERSION WITH NO WATERMARK
2 THREE MORE VERSIONS WITH DIFFERENT 'SLOGAN HEADERS' to be used for promotion
3 A 'Cut Out' VERSION ON TRANSPARENT BACKGROUND


Lotto to da moooon!

You should look at the Quark thread. This isn't worth 3 BTC by any stretch


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: GigaCoin on January 01, 2014, 08:59:24 PM
Come on peeps for 1BTC the logo should look fucking awesome, where them design skills?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 01, 2014, 09:00:21 PM

The concept doesn't work, right? let me know fast
If not, i'll look into other logos asap. i need to know

Not exactly, we're after something more attention grabbing.

We're also in no rush to accept any design. Please feel free to take your time with your submissions.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 01, 2014, 09:02:16 PM

Your on the right track to a degree. We want the logo to look rich. Glittering gold and/or letters is a nice touch.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: goldenarmZ on January 01, 2014, 09:03:36 PM
I've been stuck in the newbie forum all day waiting to post in here! :P

How about something like this? I'm happy to take suggestions for edits if required.

http://jan.imghost.us/ySiY.jpg

If chosen I'll provide high-res PNG with transparency and the photoshop PSD file for your use.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: jayguar on January 01, 2014, 09:07:39 PM
I've been stuck in the newbie forum all day waiting to post in here! :P

How about something like this? I'm happy to take suggestions for edits if required.

http://jan.imghost.us/ySiY.jpg

If chosen I'll provide high-res PNG with transparency and the photoshop PSD file for your use.

Try changing the Lotto Coin in the center to LOT.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: slowgin222 on January 01, 2014, 09:08:16 PM
I think that looks really good goldenarmZ.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: luck5 on January 01, 2014, 09:09:59 PM
Hey guys, why spend 1BTC and look for logo design in a community where there is no one professional designer?

With the same amount you can start a contest between logo designers, and the community will end up with a truly professional designed logo!

just take a look at websites like 99designs.com or logoarena or google 'logo design contest' and choose the website you like, with 1BTC you will have a great logo, much better than anything anyone could achieve here.

Please follow my advice!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 01, 2014, 09:13:04 PM
To better convey what we are after, please check out the new Netcoin logo. That has pretty much all of the qualities we are after in the new Lottocoin logo.

thanks


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 01, 2014, 09:21:28 PM
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/05/61/af/0561af6a2abf6fad9607dacbaaf8a7d4.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: goldenarmZ on January 01, 2014, 09:37:07 PM
To better convey what we are after, please check out the new Netcoin logo. That has pretty much all of the qualities we are after in the new Lottocoin logo.

thanks

This one?
http://jan.imghost.us/yTKO.jpg

Or the 3d one?
http://netcoin.pw/netcoin.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 01, 2014, 10:25:46 PM
To better convey what we are after, please check out the new Netcoin logo. That has pretty much all of the qualities we are after in the new Lottocoin logo.

thanks

This one?
http://jan.imghost.us/yTKO.jpg

Or the 3d one?
http://netcoin.pw/netcoin.jpg

3d one


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: goldenarmZ on January 01, 2014, 10:53:17 PM
Really..? Ick. The 3D one looks like something from the 90s imo. The flat one is really nice. :-\


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 01, 2014, 10:57:23 PM
I agree  8)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: musty97 on January 01, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
the netcoin logo looks amazing!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 01, 2014, 11:47:16 PM
the netcoin logo looks amazing!

Yea, I think essentially what we're after is the current lottocoin logo design/image BUT with a finish similar to the new Netcoin logo. Doesnt have to be exactly the same but I hope this gives a better idea of what we want.

And yes I think the 3D is more in line with what we want to achieve.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Romance on January 02, 2014, 12:29:17 AM
Reserved

Working on a design right now! out of curiosity when are you planning on picking a winner?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 02, 2014, 12:57:01 AM
http://anony.ws/i/2014/01/02/PQwuz.png

 ::)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 02, 2014, 01:28:31 AM
https://i.imgur.com/izGNfZN.png

Reserved

Working on a design right now! out of curiosity when are you planning on picking a winner?

no submission has still met the requirements. give it some time!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: publicstalker on January 02, 2014, 01:31:57 AM

Not the best design, but I liked the concept!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: mav38 on January 02, 2014, 01:35:45 AM

Not the best design, but I liked the concept!

Thanks! I'll try something more conventional next time


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: krak3n on January 02, 2014, 02:07:53 AM
Here's some I made up, just a bit more realistic and clean.
http://whatarelitecoins.com/images/coinsamples.jpg

Happy to change or morph to fit the brief.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Romance on January 02, 2014, 02:59:56 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IeyIm79.png
Here is my logo! Open for feed back and willing to make changes if needed! =D I hope you all like it!
https://i.imgur.com/DXLEYw7.png
This one is with some color.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 03:25:23 AM
Oldminer...

REALITY CHECK...

No offence but all the designs so far are absolutely terrible... [look someone's got to say it as we are not judging kids art and have to be nice about this here] corporate logo design should never be approached by this kind of cheapskate 'prize' competition and the entries just prove my point further.

Which is exactly why I originally said you are going to offer more than one bitcoin or you will get loads of amateur entries and no serious designer will bother to help. The sad thing is that people on this forum, although they have the 3d programs to play with, believe that they are good which is a worry in itself... The netcoin designs are superb and I agree are the benchmark and I only wish that the brief had been given earlier as I can see exactly what you now want... something that looks like a physical 3D coin that evolves your existing brand. I wish I had a 3D program as I could easily do it but unfortunately I just work in photoshop and I've already spent too many hours on this so I will have to bow out for now. My suggestion still stands that you put the reward up to at least 3 bitcoin as this is a small investment to get your coin branded by a professional.

If you are really serious about this coin the logo should be your first priority as it is how the public and investors judge you... an amateur logo and an amateur logo competition does not inspire confidence... get this right and make the right investment and lotto will be perceived to be a serious brand. Your brand values are embodied in your logo.

Did I hear someone say that market trading had reached 100,000 dollars... well 3 bitcoin is a drop in the ocean and a professional branding company would charge between 5-10 thousand dollars to do this for you and the better brand agencies much higher still. The examples so far all demonstrate why you need a pro to do it as it sounds easy but unless you know what you are doing, understand some basic typographical and design rules you are just going to get a load of rubbish like the entries that have been submitted so far.

Again, I don't want to offend anyone who has entered... but come on guys... seriously nothing has come close to what is required so over to the pros before anymore time is wasted.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 02, 2014, 06:10:04 AM
Oldminer...

REALITY CHECK...

No offence but all the designs so far are absolutely terrible... [look someone's got to say it as we are not judging kids art and have to be nice about this here] corporate logo design should never be approached by this kind of cheapskate 'prize' competition and the entries just prove my point further.

Which is exactly why I originally said you are going to offer more than one bitcoin or you will get loads of amateur entries and no serious designer will bother to help. The sad thing is that people on this forum, although they have the 3d programs to play with, believe that they are good which is a worry in itself... The netcoin designs are superb and I agree are the benchmark and I only wish that the brief had been given earlier as I can see exactly what you now want... something that looks like a physical 3D coin that evolves your existing brand. I wish I had a 3D program as I could easily do it but unfortunately I just work in photoshop and I've already spent too many hours on this so I will have to bow out for now. My suggestion still stands that you put the reward up to at least 3 bitcoin as this is a small investment to get your coin branded by a professional.

If you are really serious about this coin the logo should be your first priority as it is how the public and investors judge you... an amateur logo and an amateur logo competition does not inspire confidence... get this right and make the right investment and lotto will be perceived to be a serious brand. Your brand values are embodied in your logo.

Did I hear someone say that market trading had reached 100,000 dollars... well 3 bitcoin is a drop in the ocean and a professional branding company would charge between 5-10 thousand dollars to do this for you and the better brand agencies much higher still. The examples so far all demonstrate why you need a pro to do it as it sounds easy but unless you know what you are doing, understand some basic typographical and design rules you are just going to get a load of rubbish like the entries that have been submitted so far.

Again, I don't want to offend anyone who has entered... but come on guys... seriously nothing has come close to what is required so over to the pros before anymore time is wasted.

A good logo = $2100????? (3BTC)
There are guys on Fiverr making logos for $5!

I think 1BTC is plenty. We just need more advertisement


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 02, 2014, 10:34:32 AM
Oldminer...

REALITY CHECK...

No offence but all the designs so far are absolutely terrible... [look someone's got to say it as we are not judging kids art and have to be nice about this here] corporate logo design should never be approached by this kind of cheapskate 'prize' competition and the entries just prove my point further.

Which is exactly why I originally said you are going to offer more than one bitcoin or you will get loads of amateur entries and no serious designer will bother to help. The sad thing is that people on this forum, although they have the 3d programs to play with, believe that they are good which is a worry in itself... The netcoin designs are superb and I agree are the benchmark and I only wish that the brief had been given earlier as I can see exactly what you now want... something that looks like a physical 3D coin that evolves your existing brand. I wish I had a 3D program as I could easily do it but unfortunately I just work in photoshop and I've already spent too many hours on this so I will have to bow out for now. My suggestion still stands that you put the reward up to at least 3 bitcoin as this is a small investment to get your coin branded by a professional.

If you are really serious about this coin the logo should be your first priority as it is how the public and investors judge you... an amateur logo and an amateur logo competition does not inspire confidence... get this right and make the right investment and lotto will be perceived to be a serious brand. Your brand values are embodied in your logo.

Did I hear someone say that market trading had reached 100,000 dollars... well 3 bitcoin is a drop in the ocean and a professional branding company would charge between 5-10 thousand dollars to do this for you and the better brand agencies much higher still. The examples so far all demonstrate why you need a pro to do it as it sounds easy but unless you know what you are doing, understand some basic typographical and design rules you are just going to get a load of rubbish like the entries that have been submitted so far.

Again, I don't want to offend anyone who has entered... but come on guys... seriously nothing has come close to what is required so over to the pros before anymore time is wasted.


I think my coin design is really cool, I think I use it for my own startup coin if nobody wants it Hehe


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: feomat on January 02, 2014, 11:26:36 AM
I think my coin design is really cool [...]

Nothing against you but it looks so old-fashioned and not valuable.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: syrusek on January 02, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Oldminer...

REALITY CHECK...

No offence but all the designs so far are absolutely terrible... [look someone's got to say it as we are not judging kids art and have to be nice about this here] corporate logo design should never be approached by this kind of cheapskate 'prize' competition and the entries just prove my point further.

Your works aren't better than other people from this thread, i'm not kidding.
So far NO ONE post anything good.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 12:24:18 PM
Quote
Your works aren't better than other people from this thread, i'm not kidding.
So far NO ONE post anything good

I simply took the existing brand 'flavour' and gave it a bit more of a 3D look and worked on making the logotype LOTTO COIN legible when reduced in size which it isn't at the moment and isn't with all the designs submitted so far apart from my one... which improves it slightly but I agree with you there still needs to be that wow factor which is lacking in all the designs. I simply don't have the time to work up an original idea and give it the polish it needs unless I get paid as I don't have the time to do it speculatively.

You can see samples of my original design work here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0
these are samples of my original design work (no clip art and no 3D programs as I work in photoshop)

oldminer actually took all my design samples to illustrate the direction he'd like to see the coin developed but changed the brief slightly as he'd like to see a work up of a 3D coin with the angle and wow factor of Netcoin. This shows lottocoin understands the importance of getting this right before changing the current logo...

As I had a few hours spare I knocked up a logo that moves the current design forward while retaining its initial characteristics... the pile of money, the sun rays and the same typeface. Brand evolution is important and sometimes large companies release two phase logo changes before radically changing direction. As Lottocoin is new there is a chance for a complete change... but please understand this was my thinking behind my submission.



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Aki4real on January 02, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
Oldminer...

REALITY CHECK...

No offence but all the designs so far are absolutely terrible... [look someone's got to say it as we are not judging kids art and have to be nice about this here] corporate logo design should never be approached by this kind of cheapskate 'prize' competition and the entries just prove my point further.

Your works aren't better than other people from this thread, i'm not kidding.
So far NO ONE post anything good.


this proves his point..
I agree, for 700-800 $ you should be able to get a lot more professional logo's

but I think there is another reason for him to do this within the cryptocommunity... it's more attention for the coin.. so this is a bit of marketing as well ;)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
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Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: xnerd on January 02, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
 :o


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 02, 2014, 03:47:10 PM
Hi all,

First of all Happy New Year  ;D

Here is my design for the LottoCoin:

https://i.imgur.com/lJnfOvz.png

I've been following this thread and working on the design since the first post in here.
I tried to incorporate what the OP wants plus my take and ideas.
Nonetheless, any changes and modifications you deem appropriate pls let me know  ;)

Thanks.



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 02, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
I think my coin design is really cool [...]

Nothing against you but it looks so old-fashioned and not valuable.

No prob, its just your opinion,
but you misunderstood something, not everybody expects to get 1 (big) Bitcoin here,
a little reward to push the discussion foreward is enough for me


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: MoneyMuscles on January 02, 2014, 04:10:07 PM
Throw a bunch of golden lotto balls in the background, gold is better then the previous posters silver because gold is obviously more desirable. You can have numbers printed on the balls or a combo of those and a symbol for the currency. Maybe an X with a double slash though it to symbolize fingers crossed or something to that ends.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
Hi all,

First of all Happy New Year  ;D

Here is my design for the LottoCoin:

https://i.imgur.com/lJnfOvz.png

I've been following this thread and working on the design since the first post in here.
I tried to incorporate what the OP wants plus my take and ideas.
Nonetheless, any changes and modifications you deem appropriate pls let me know  ;)

Thanks.



Best so far, great effort...... modern, clear and classic with well balanced typogography...

TIPS
my advice would be to do a graduated shiny gold at 45 degrees (not textured gold) across the gold part of the coin and change the depth of the bevels and embossing slightly to make it a bit more 3D. Will give it the wow they are looking for
Also move the LOT type vey slightly to the right by reducing the size... although the L and T are spaced the same distance form the edge you need a little more space to the right of the L to compensate for the space under the right of the Ts top bar... this is a classic 'kerning trick' that is used by professional typograhers to give the type balance... you have to cheat it a bit to get 'LOT' to look centered. If you want to keep the balls of the lot 'O' centred simply reduce the length of the L horizontal just fractionally and move it across towards the O... this will give you that nice space to on the left had side of the L to balance the large space under the T's crossbar.

  ;D

rgds,
steve


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 02, 2014, 05:19:46 PM

Best so far, great effort...... modern, clear and classic with well balanced typogography...

TIPS
my advice would be to do a graduated shiny gold at 45 degrees (not textured gold) across the gold part of the coin and change the depth of the bevels and embossing slightly to make it a bit more 3D. Will give it the wow they are looking for
Also move the LOT type vey slightly to the right by reducing the size... although the L and T are spaced the same distance form the edge you need a little more space to the right of the L to compensate for the space under the right of the Ts top bar... this is a classic 'kerning trick' that is used by professional typograhers to give the type balance... you have to cheat it a bit to get 'LOT' to look centered. If you want to keep the balls of the lot 'O' centred simply reduce the length of the L horizontal just fractionally and move it across towards the O... this will give you that nice space to on the left had side of the L to balance the large space under the T's crossbar.

  ;D

rgds,
steve

Cheers Steve for the tips and glad you liked my work!
I played a lot with the letters but will try what you said to make it better ;)

I was going to try another version with the plain flashy gold as you described, but in my opinion I see that style a bit too cartoon-y/clipart-y (like many scam coins out there), so opted for a 'real used' look for the coin to make it stand out from the rest.
I'll try something without the texture on the gold or will reduce it to a minimum... I'll see what looks good  :D

Cheers.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Tonza on January 02, 2014, 05:23:02 PM
Made this a couple of days ago. Wasn't going to post it since I am not quite sure about the result... :/

https://i.imgur.com/xLsuP9U.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 02, 2014, 05:30:27 PM
I'm doing some Cinema 4D renders. Stay tuned! :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 05:39:46 PM

Made this a couple of days ago. Wasn't going to post it since I am not quite sure about the result... :/

https://i.imgur.com/xLsuP9U.png

would be great for the plastic and metal logo on the front end of a car bonnet but looks nothing like a coin...
must look like a 3D coin to have any chance...

problem with these 3D graphic programs is they give you to many 'fancy' textures and options when all you really need is embossing and bevelling...
NO fancy plastic style effects or reflections... keep the bevels and embossing crisp and simple. leave out textures as coins look real when they are stamped in clean metal.

Its no good adding strokes to the keylines around type for logos... a good logo should stand as simple type with no 3d or clever textturing etc...
First rule of professional logo design is KIS... keep it simple... clarity and unique personality are the key to a successful logo but the logotype has to look good when printed in black with no drop shadows or effects.

Hope this helps... intended to be constructive not critical


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 05:50:42 PM

Best so far, great effort...... modern, clear and classic with well balanced typogography...

TIPS
my advice would be to do a graduated shiny gold at 45 degrees (not textured gold) across the gold part of the coin and change the depth of the bevels and embossing slightly to make it a bit more 3D. Will give it the wow they are looking for
Also move the LOT type vey slightly to the right by reducing the size... although the L and T are spaced the same distance form the edge you need a little more space to the right of the L to compensate for the space under the right of the Ts top bar... this is a classic 'kerning trick' that is used by professional typograhers to give the type balance... you have to cheat it a bit to get 'LOT' to look centered. If you want to keep the balls of the lot 'O' centred simply reduce the length of the L horizontal just fractionally and move it across towards the O... this will give you that nice space to on the left had side of the L to balance the large space under the T's crossbar.

  ;D

rgds,
steve

Cheers Steve for the tips and glad you liked my work!
I played a lot with the letters but will try what you said to make it better ;)

I was going to try another version with the plain flashy gold as you described, but in my opinion I see that style a bit too cartoon-y/clipart-y (like many scam coins out there), so opted for a 'real used' look for the coin to make it stand out from the rest.
I'll try something without the texture on the gold or will reduce it to a minimum... I'll see what looks good  :D

Cheers.

Try this... do the gold version and then sample real texture  'scratches' from a white texture or existing metalic sheet... and add it as a channel layer (if you have photoshop) to give your generated gold a more real look... you can always take your final design from your 3D program in to photo shop and do some additional 'paint work' using layers and tansparent overlays.

A trick I use is to google search images of gold plates and photos of coins and sample and clone small sections to get that extra 'real' look and the right 'gold vignettes. You have to be clever and get the right section or it can look terrible.

also sheet aluminium textures are good and you can use photoshop overlay filters over th gold to just bring out the texture... lots of trial and error needed to get the most realistic effect.

Remember to search high quality images ONLY or your samples will be too pixelated

rgds steve



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Tonza on January 02, 2014, 05:55:23 PM

Made this a couple of days ago. Wasn't going to post it since I am not quite sure about the result... :/


would be great for the plastic and metal logo on the front end of a car bonnet but looks nothing like a coin...
must look like a 3D coin to have any chance...

problem with these 3D graphic programs is they give you to many 'fancy' textures and options when all you really need is embossing and bevelling...
NO fancy plastic style effects or reflections... keep the bevels and embossing crisp and simple. leave out textures as coins look real when they are stamped in clean metal.

Its no good adding strokes to the keylines around type for logos... a good logo should stand as simple type with no 3d or clever textturing etc...
First rule of professional logo design is KIS... keep it simple... clarity and unique personality are the key to a successful logo but the logotype has to look good when printed in black with no drop shadows or effects.

Hope this helps... intended to be constructive not critical


Yeah, I know but it was more in response to what the OP wanted. (ie. shiny 3D look)

I do personally like simple designs more but each to his own. I did do the new Frozen logo here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366762.0
which I like personally much more (even though that too doesn't look anything like a coin) than the LOT one I did. (Hence not posting it for a couple of days)

I don't really like Skeuomorphism so making a digital coin look like an actual coin feels weird. Though the end goal might be to make a physical coin.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 06:00:29 PM
Quote
I do personally like simple designs more but each to his own. I did do the new Frozen logo here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366762.0
which I like personally much more than the LOT one I did. (Hence not posting it for a couple of days)

the logo for frozen coin looks really fresh and innovative... why not try something out of the box for lotto with the same approach in creating something new and challenging


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 02, 2014, 06:02:11 PM
Hi all,

First of all Happy New Year  ;D

Here is my design for the LottoCoin:

https://i.imgur.com/lJnfOvz.png

I've been following this thread and working on the design since the first post in here.
I tried to incorporate what the OP wants plus my take and ideas.
Nonetheless, any changes and modifications you deem appropriate pls let me know  ;)

Thanks.




Really like this one. What about putting a gold bezel on it and the 010010101 in gold and also putting  a few lotto balls in between the 01010101  I think this would look killer


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 02, 2014, 06:19:57 PM

Best so far, great effort...... modern, clear and classic with well balanced typogography...

TIPS
my advice would be to do a graduated shiny gold at 45 degrees (not textured gold) across the gold part of the coin and change the depth of the bevels and embossing slightly to make it a bit more 3D. Will give it the wow they are looking for
Also move the LOT type vey slightly to the right by reducing the size... although the L and T are spaced the same distance form the edge you need a little more space to the right of the L to compensate for the space under the right of the Ts top bar... this is a classic 'kerning trick' that is used by professional typograhers to give the type balance... you have to cheat it a bit to get 'LOT' to look centered. If you want to keep the balls of the lot 'O' centred simply reduce the length of the L horizontal just fractionally and move it across towards the O... this will give you that nice space to on the left had side of the L to balance the large space under the T's crossbar.

  ;D

rgds,
steve

Cheers Steve for the tips and glad you liked my work!
I played a lot with the letters but will try what you said to make it better ;)

I was going to try another version with the plain flashy gold as you described, but in my opinion I see that style a bit too cartoon-y/clipart-y (like many scam coins out there), so opted for a 'real used' look for the coin to make it stand out from the rest.
I'll try something without the texture on the gold or will reduce it to a minimum... I'll see what looks good  :D

Cheers.

Try this... do the gold version and then sample real texture  'scratches' from a white texture or existing metalic sheet... and add it as a channel layer (if you have photoshop) to give your generated gold a more real look... you can always take your final design from your 3D program in to photo shop and do some additional 'paint work' using layers and tansparent overlays.

A trick I use is to google search images of gold plates and photos of coins and sample and clone small sections to get that extra 'real' look and the right 'gold vignettes. You have to be clever and get the right section or it can look terrible.

also sheet aluminium textures are good and you can use photoshop overlay filters over th gold to just bring out the texture... lots of trial and error needed to get the most realistic effect.

Remember to search high quality images ONLY or your samples will be too pixelated

rgds steve



I only use Photoshop for this, don't have any 3D progs as my knowledge is in PS.
I've got loads of layers for this design - as you mentioned overlays and textures etc.
As I said, I'll try to incorporate your ideas as soon as I have some time.

And thanks for the constructive criticism.

Cheers


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 02, 2014, 06:24:01 PM
Hi all,

First of all Happy New Year  ;D

Here is my design for the LottoCoin:

https://i.imgur.com/lJnfOvz.png

I've been following this thread and working on the design since the first post in here.
I tried to incorporate what the OP wants plus my take and ideas.
Nonetheless, any changes and modifications you deem appropriate pls let me know  ;)

Thanks.




Really like this one. What about putting a gold bezel on it and the 010010101 in gold and also putting  a few lotto balls in between the 01010101  I think this would look killer

So you mean making it all in gold?

Putting the balls in between the 1s and 0s is tricky as everything can move out of place...
Would require a lot of work and time :(

Thanks for you positive and constructive comments though.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 06:36:22 PM
Quote
So you mean making it all in gold?

Putting the balls in between the 1s and 0s is tricky as everything can move out of place...
Would require a lot of work and time Sad

Thanks for you positive and constructive comments though.

Cheers.

leave the O and the balls exactly as is for now...
its only the L that needs to move very slightly ot the right and this is achieved simply by reducing the length of the horizontal bar of the L so it can move closer to the O.

hope this is clear.

the silver rim is great ... looks classy and the 10111100 bits make it look modern and fresh and are great on the silver...  no need for any balls there... you've got a nice solution for the balls already featured in the O... likewise the letters and balls look great in raised silver too so don't need gold as the contrast between silver is a bonus to the claruty... especially as you have done them... just a slight extra height on the bevel with some nice subtle soft drop shad to make it look more 3D... I can take your final design and poss help give it a polish.



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 02, 2014, 07:35:52 PM
hey, better take out the stone like effect with scratches, it do not look like gold here.

im just playing around to do a realistic emboss effect like the real famous gold coins
http://anony.ws/i/2014/01/02/L1Nyk.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: syrusek on January 02, 2014, 09:11:45 PM
http://i.cubeupload.com/dm0Df7.png

http://i.cubeupload.com/GHTRid.png

Yo funkycoin, spare me your 'feedback' bullshit. thanks
It looks bad, sorry.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 09:12:11 PM
http://i.cubeupload.com/dm0Df7.png

http://i.cubeupload.com/GHTRid.png

Yo funkycoin, spare me your 'feedback' bullshit. thanks

sure... NO COMMENT lol


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 02, 2014, 09:14:32 PM
http://i.cubeupload.com/dm0Df7.png

http://i.cubeupload.com/GHTRid.png

Yo funkycoin, spare me your 'feedback' bullshit. thanks

thats savage looking ,welldone, 2nd one gets my vote out of the 2, bit i still think metatron's design is the best so far


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 02, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
http://i.cubeupload.com/dm0Df7.png

http://i.cubeupload.com/GHTRid.png

Yo funkycoin, spare me your 'feedback' bullshit. thanks

The 'finish' is great. Though, we want the coin to 'be in your face' so to speak when you see it.

Funkycoin, we do appreciate your help in this thread and I did read your earlier thread about employing and paying a pro., which I essentially agree with. Though I like having the community involved in this, and if one of them can provide the winning design then even better.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 02, 2014, 09:43:37 PM
Quote
Funkycoin, we do appreciate your help in this thread and I did read your earlier thread about employing and paying a pro., which I essentially agree with. Though I like having the community involved in this, and if one of them can provide the winning design then even better.

watching with bated breath and hoping an awesome coin will be born... not here to put you guys down.. I've got my savings invested in this coin so for anyone who wants some creative art direction I'm happy to offer my advice for free.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 03, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Hi all,

here's an updated design - cleaner (less texture), more pronounced embossing and fixed letter spacing.

https://i.imgur.com/lpYnCs8.png

Hope you like better this version, and as always comments are welcomed!

TY


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: luck5 on January 03, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
Hey guys, why spend 1BTC and look for logo design in a community where there is no one professional designer?

With the same amount you can start a contest between logo designers, and the community will end up with a truly professional designed logo!

just take a look at websites like 99designs.com or logoarena or google 'logo design contest' and choose the website you like, with 1BTC you will have a great logo, much better than anything anyone could achieve here.

Please follow my advice!



UP!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: luck5 on January 03, 2014, 01:59:17 PM
Come on peeps for 1BTC the logo should look fucking awesome, where them design skills?


You can't find fucking awesome logo design skills here, you just need a pro for that. and 1 BTC would be enough to have a pro logo designer


also, i see people talking about NET or FRZ logos... do you really think those are good examples?

they just scream amateur


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 03, 2014, 02:42:36 PM
Come on peeps for 1BTC the logo should look fucking awesome, where them design skills?


You can't find fucking awesome logo design skills here, you just need a pro for that. and 1 BTC would be enough to have a pro logo designer


also, i see people talking about NET or FRZ logos... do you really think those are good examples?

they just scream amateur

So do you really think that any people in here interested in the crypto scene cannot be pro designers too?
Maybe there are people in here whose main job is a pro designer and has the hobby of crypto...

Never assume anything... bluntly!  ;)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: noedelx on January 03, 2014, 03:17:20 PM
looks great sofar guys keep it up!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Aki4real on January 03, 2014, 06:02:41 PM
Hi all,

here's an updated design - cleaner (less texture), more pronounced embossing and fixed letter spacing.

https://i.imgur.com/lpYnCs8.png

Hope you like better this version, and as always comments are welcomed!

TY

Hi, nice one..

IMHO it needs to "shine" a bit, it should pull your eyes towards it.
If this coin is somewhere on a site, I don't think it would immediately pull my eyes.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Metatron on January 03, 2014, 06:22:06 PM
Hi all,

here's an updated design - cleaner (less texture), more pronounced embossing and fixed letter spacing.

https://i.imgur.com/lpYnCs8.png

Hope you like better this version, and as always comments are welcomed!

TY

Hi, nice one..

IMHO it needs to "shine" a bit, it should pull your eyes towards it.
If this coin is somewhere on a site, I don't think it would immediately pull my eyes.

Good luck!

Hi Aki4real, thanks for the feedback.

What do you mean by 'shine'?
Make the golden center more golden?

Pls note that the 'eye candy' to 'attract the eye' in this design is not the 'glitter and shine' as there are already many coin designs that way but in stead I went for a completely different design, mimicking a real-world coin to make it 'desirable to have' (using some psychology in marketing lol  ;) ).

Cheers.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Aki4real on January 03, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Hi all,

here's an updated design - cleaner (less texture), more pronounced embossing and fixed letter spacing.

https://i.imgur.com/lpYnCs8.png

Hope you like better this version, and as always comments are welcomed!

TY

Hi, nice one..

IMHO it needs to "shine" a bit, it should pull your eyes towards it.
If this coin is somewhere on a site, I don't think it would immediately pull my eyes.

Good luck!

Hi Aki4real, thanks for the feedback.

What do you mean by 'shine'?
Make the golden center more golden?

Pls note that the 'eye candy' to 'attract the eye' in this design is not the 'glitter and shine' as there are already many coin designs that way but in stead I went for a completely different design, mimicking a real-world coin to make it 'desirable to have' (using some psychology in marketing lol  ;) ).

Cheers.

Hi Metatron,

I understand your point of view.

Yes I did mean get a more yellowy/shiney inside of the coin..

IMO this coin needs to look "succesfull", something you would show off to others.
Look at real casino chips at different casinos, different colors.. something that makes them stand out.
(by the way with this last example the chips don't shine, so there are also other possibilities to create the same effect)

Anyway, again.. good luck :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 04, 2014, 04:37:49 PM
http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/originals/4a/cf/03/4acf03f9c840de8ac426c4195ff5c68a.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: ajax3592 on January 04, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
My work coming up in few moments...


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 04, 2014, 04:57:04 PM
Hi all,

here's an updated design - cleaner (less texture), more pronounced embossing and fixed letter spacing.

https://i.imgur.com/lpYnCs8.png

Hope you like better this version, and as always comments are welcomed!

TY

RE LETTER SPACING... this is what I meant before... there needed to a bit of space to left of the L which can be created by shortening the lower bar of the L
I did a sample for you in photoshop to explain clearer... this gives the LOT a better feeling of being centred in the gold as the space on the left of the L counterbalances the space that sits under the left hand side of the vertical stroke of the T... this is what pro typographers do to 'cheat' the fact that some letters have large negative space around them like A, T and Y while others like H N and O have little negative space. The art of balancing the negative space is called 'kerning'.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/63/ac/20/63ac201a288e4eae5c74acdf71f46e7a.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: ajax3592 on January 04, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
IMO the original logo is just fine, but it's dull and flat.
I think is what you are looking for, oldminer - more realism.
Each of the smaller coins appear more real and "pops out" now.

Before
https://i.imgur.com/SFStLwJ.png


After
https://i.imgur.com/61hzhZG.jpg

I can make it life like realistic with more depth if I have the original logo file or a high res version.



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 04, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Here you go, a proper 3D render. Let me know your thoughts.

https://i.imgur.com/rDLQx4t.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 04, 2014, 10:02:07 PM
Here you go, a proper 3D render. Let me know your thoughts.

https://i.imgur.com/rDLQx4t.jpg

Really really good. Needs morr colors and were set (think netcoin)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gds89 on January 04, 2014, 10:23:33 PM
Here you go, a proper 3D render. Let me know your thoughts.

https://i.imgur.com/rDLQx4t.jpg

Really good, i think that's what is expected.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 04, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
Here you go, a proper 3D render. Let me know your thoughts.

https://i.imgur.com/rDLQx4t.jpg

Thats quite nice. Can you remove the dark area lower down?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 04, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Yes, final image will be transparent PNG and much higher resolution.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 04, 2014, 11:51:49 PM
Here you go, a proper 3D render. Let me know your thoughts.

https://i.imgur.com/rDLQx4t.jpg

very nice


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 05, 2014, 05:29:27 AM
Can't do better with my limited skills. Hope it helped though.

http://s7.directupload.net/images/131231/khyx58aq.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Looks great. So far this is the pick of the bunch. What's your asking price for it?

I really do like this coin design, though its a pity its slightly on an angle. My concern is with sites such as coinwarz using it when all the other altcoins have forward facing logos, though I suspect if you tried to change that it would lose its rounded effect?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 05, 2014, 09:18:47 PM
Sending some more renders. Still playing with it.

https://i.imgur.com/6CLnZhD.png

https://i.imgur.com/2PRUsuQ.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 05, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
Oh wow!!! It's becoming really really good now!! :)

I prefer the 2nd one. First one looks like it just came out of Maya. 2nd one has a more realistic tone. (Obvs. you worked on it quite a bit more)

I'm no expert, but I'll suggest some things, perhaps it could help you

You should try to shoot for a really good finish on the "LOT" text.

http://netcoinfoundation.org/images/netcoin.png

Look at the "NET" text. It has this kind of silver, really smooth, matte finish, almost glass like. Although it does look the same in your logo, perhaps just a color correction needed?

Perhaps find a way to make the entire "LOT" circle (excluding the "LOTTO COIN" circle) stand out more... in the netcoin logo, the outer circle is in silver while the inner circle is in gold.

Very very good work though

EDIT: I deleted some of my suggestions, because they arent really applicable.
I'll try to play around with photoshop on your logo to make my point clear


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 05, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
Thanks for feedback, got it!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Zisef on January 05, 2014, 10:10:18 PM
Looking good fellas!!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 05, 2014, 10:14:39 PM
@gjeric

Just to make my point clear:

https://i.imgur.com/eohdqCT.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Aki4real on January 05, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
@gjeric

Just to make my point clear:

https://i.imgur.com/eohdqCT.png

+!!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 05, 2014, 10:27:52 PM
Maybe add a blue'ish tint to the side...

Not perfect but pretty close:

https://i.imgur.com/MG2QFgE.png

Your work is great, seriously great. You deserve at least 1BTC if not way more:)

Just need to add a reflective layer on photoshop and it would look almost identical

Just play around with the colors, be a bit original (I don't think we want a 100% copycat of the NET logo :) ) and it should come out really really good


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 12:05:54 AM
After further thinking I believe it shouldn't look like the NET logo at all, in terms of colors content. It should look like a gambling coin, or at least something more 'flashy'.

I noticed your logo follows a similar pattern to this spin wheel

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/884/954/542/542954884_846.jpg

Perhaps (just an idea, don't do it if it doesn't appeal to you) fill each 'slice' of your logo with the same colors as in the spin wheel? would probably look cool


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 01:01:54 AM
https://i.imgur.com/vkZPVt6.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 06, 2014, 01:08:52 AM

10/10 thats a smashing design


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: OfWelDan on January 06, 2014, 01:17:09 AM

I like :D


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Protato on January 06, 2014, 02:37:06 AM
+1


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 02:52:31 AM

This is brilliant. Literally. We're happy to go with this.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 03:14:17 AM
This is brilliant. Literally. We're happy to go with this.

Although gjeric owns all credits, I'm the one who put the colors on it

It was a conceptual design, not a final render. I just switched the colors around with photoshop with the first render that gjeric made. I can't remove the 'sample' text at the bottom. Therefore it's not even usable.

If you like it however, then great. But I think gjeric will come up with something better really soon


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 04:15:52 AM
This is brilliant. Literally. We're happy to go with this.

Although gjeric owns all credits, I'm the one who put the colors on it

It was a conceptual design, not a final render. I just switched the colors around with photoshop with the first render that gjeric made. I can't remove the 'sample' text at the bottom. Therefore it's not even usable.

If you like it however, then great. But I think gjeric will come up with something better really soon

Thanks mate

I'll make sure you receive an appropriate reward also for your input.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 04:20:31 AM
This is brilliant. Literally. We're happy to go with this.

Although gjeric owns all credits, I'm the one who put the colors on it

It was a conceptual design, not a final render. I just switched the colors around with photoshop with the first render that gjeric made. I can't remove the 'sample' text at the bottom. Therefore it's not even usable.

If you like it however, then great. But I think gjeric will come up with something better really soon

Thanks mate

I'll make sure you receive an appropriate reward also for your input.

Well, im sure gjeric spent much, much more time than I did with the logo. I spent about 1 hour at most. I dont deserve much, haha. although I would certainly do it again if needed


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 06, 2014, 06:20:49 AM
Nice y3804! It really does represent a spin wheel (good observation), but I didn't think of that I could add colors to it :) Very cool idea (thanks!), and I agree that we need to distinguish a bit away from NET coin and this is a perfect way to do it. I'll make a few more better renders (Its made in Cinema 4D) and then start playing with Photoshop.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 06:34:06 AM
Nice y3804! It really does represent a spin wheel (good observation), but I didn't think of that I could add colors to it :) Very cool idea (thanks!), and I agree that we need to distinguish a bit away from NET coin and this is a perfect way to do it. I'll make a few more better renders (Its made in Cinema 4D) and then start playing with Photoshop.

Cool! Cinema4D looks like hard stuff :)

I was trying to gather some opinions on the official LOT thread, but I only received positive ratings.. (I was anxiously waiting for ppl to throw their critics and help the logo,... that didn't happen)

Yea I didn't think initially that adding colors to the wheel would look good, but I think it gives an unique look to the coin...

I'm eager to see the results :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 07:37:40 AM
Nice y3804! It really does represent a spin wheel (good observation), but I didn't think of that I could add colors to it :) Very cool idea (thanks!), and I agree that we need to distinguish a bit away from NET coin and this is a perfect way to do it. I'll make a few more better renders (Its made in Cinema 4D) and then start playing with Photoshop.

Waiting in anticipation :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: jdebunt on January 06, 2014, 07:41:48 AM
This is some amazing work guys :) A team effort got us this far, and a team effort is getting us a new logo :)

Your dedication to Lottocoin is heartwarming. We are all humbled by your efforts.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 06, 2014, 07:50:38 AM
Any coin which isn't a flat image doesn't work for me. Someone just mentioned Coinwarz, and there will be many other instances that will require the coin logo once crypto is common place.

It will look odd in comparison to the rest.  

Here they are all flat - http://wheretomine.com/

Same here - http://coinmarketcap.com

And this was just mentioned - http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

Yes there are a few 3d renders (BitBar, Spots etc) but 98% are just nice flat 2d designs, especially the coins.

This design as a flat coin and we might have a winner.

https://i.imgur.com/2PRUsuQ.jpg



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 07:54:34 AM
Any coin which isn't a flat image doesn't work for me. Someone just mentioned Coinwarz, and there will be many other instances that will require the coin logo once crypto is common place. It will look odd in comparison to the rest. I'm not sure why you'd go against the grain and release a 3d rendered design on an angle.

Here they are all flat - http://wheretomine.com/

Same here - coinmarketcap.com

And this was just mentioned - http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

Yes there are a few 3d renders (BitBar, Spots etc) but 98% are just nice flat 2d designs, especially the coins.



Netcoin -> 3d logo for marketing purposes, 2d logo for CMC and Coinwarz. Actually if you look closely they do use the 3d logo for CMC/Coinwarz!

I think it's not a difficult task to create 2 versions. The model is rendered in C4D and can be seen by different angles. A little bit of photoshop and voila

EDIT: ^^ well exactly


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Protato on January 06, 2014, 07:57:30 AM
I really like the design of nutcoin (the image found on the background of website), hope those working on the design of LOT takes a glance at it =P


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 06, 2014, 07:59:54 AM
I will provide a flat version also. Before I continued to 3D modeling I had to draw it in Illustrator anyway :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 06, 2014, 08:02:20 AM

Netcoin -> 3d logo for marketing purposes, 2d logo for CMC and Coinwarz. Actually if you look closely they do use the 3d logo for CMC/Coinwarz!

I think it's not a difficult task to create 2 versions. The model is rendered in C4D and can be seen by different angles. A little bit of photoshop and voila

EDIT: ^^ well exactly

That's all well and good, but thats more work and leads to brand confusion. Why have two types of logo, when a flat version is all you need. The Netcoin logo is sht btw. I prefer a web2.0 type of look, much like the original BitCoin logo. This is easily reproduced in vinyl stickers, stitching on T-Shirts etc etc. Where as the Netcoin logo is a complicated mess, as soon as its reduced to say a 50 x 50px gif, the wording is unreadable and the colours bleed.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Protato on January 06, 2014, 08:10:03 AM

Netcoin -> 3d logo for marketing purposes, 2d logo for CMC and Coinwarz. Actually if you look closely they do use the 3d logo for CMC/Coinwarz!

I think it's not a difficult task to create 2 versions. The model is rendered in C4D and can be seen by different angles. A little bit of photoshop and voila

EDIT: ^^ well exactly

That's all well and good, but thats more work and leads to brand confusion. Why have two types of logo, when a flat version is all you need. The Netcoin logo is sht btw. I prefer a web2.0 type of look, much like the original BitCoin logo. This is easily reproduced in vinyl stickers, stitching on T-Shirts etc etc. Where as the Netcoin logo is a complicated mess, as soon as its reduced to say a 50 x 50px gif, the wording is unreadable and the colours bleed.
sorry, I was just suggesting...I have very little knowledge on this but I just thought I might speak my mind about the design lol


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: lololol3 on January 06, 2014, 08:10:41 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Bierf48.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 08:11:22 AM

Netcoin -> 3d logo for marketing purposes, 2d logo for CMC and Coinwarz. Actually if you look closely they do use the 3d logo for CMC/Coinwarz!

I think it's not a difficult task to create 2 versions. The model is rendered in C4D and can be seen by different angles. A little bit of photoshop and voila

EDIT: ^^ well exactly

That's all well and good, but thats more work and leads to brand confusion. Why have two types of logo, when a flat version is all you need. The Netcoin logo is sht btw. I prefer a web2.0 type of look, much like the original BitCoin logo. This is easily reproduced in vinyl stickers, stitching on T-Shirts etc etc. Where as the Netcoin logo is a complicated mess, as soon as its reduced to say a 50 x 50px gif, the wording is unreadable and the colours bleed.

Check the Quarkcoin logo competition thread. Each entry has a 3d physical coin coupled with a 2d flat illustrator design.

for instance,

Quote

Or

Quote


Cool work!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 06, 2014, 08:23:53 AM
sorry, I was just suggesting...I have very little knowledge on this but I just thought I might speak my mind about the design lol

No need to apologize, its all subjective, but I'm quite into branding. The logo needs to be easily reproduced across other mediums, scalable and easy on the eye. Again I'll use the sticker example. A bitcoin logo sticker, would be cut from one piece of orange vinyl and would be cheap enough to do, whereas the Netcoin logo would probably have to be printed onto vinyl due to the overcomplicated design and colour scheme. I'm not saying stickers should make or break a coin design, but the logo needs to easily reproduced in the future, be it in print, web or on a physical object such as those neon 'We Accept BitCoin' lights I've seen. Just something to consider.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 06, 2014, 08:24:34 AM
Quote
author=y3804 link=topic=391722.msg4335893#msg4335893 date=1388970114]
https://i.imgur.com/vkZPVt6.png


The basic idea is fantastic and love the over all design...

If I was brand Art Director on this project here's what I'd be changing...
These would be my suggestions for final tweaked version before public release to make this design world class:

1. The bevel of each of the rays should change slightly in depth from outer edge to inside where it meets the SUN/ 'O'..
personally I'd try the two variations below before deciding which is best

(A) Outside edge deepest and inside centre nearest the O just visible enough to give the  'SUN/O' a dramatic natural halo effect so that it looks as though the sun is eminating light from its source.
(B) I would also try a variation the other way round with the bevel height of the rays deepest at the centre and then almost zero where they meet the silver outer rim just to check the one that looks best.

2. Kill the colour wheel and let the gold do the talking... try a subtle variation of light and dark gold in each alternate recess space between the rays... like one is white gold and the alternate one is pure gold... this will give a fantastic 'ray effect' and subly reflect the original design concept.

3. Find out from the DEVS if final branding will be LOTTOCOIN or LOTTO COIN... important to have syncronised use of one OR the OTHER... this is most important for consistant brand identity from the start. Depending on which one they choose use this for the silver outer rim. At present you have LOTTO COIN but my personal preference would be to strengthen the brand name and make it LOTTOCOIN. LOTTOCOIN is a strong brand name... LOTTO COIN is just a 'lotto coin'.

4. Once the final version is done give it a 'Polish' in photoshop and add some 'bling'... I can do that for 1 Bitcoin but you may wish to do it yourself... I'd do it by cross vignetting some of the raised parts like LOT and give some highlight 'pings' on the rim... I'd also vignetting the surface of the ray recesses to give a feeling of light emanating from the middle... a cou[le of bling 'glints' would be the final addition one to the top of the O centre and the other on the outside edge.

5. I'd also change the width on the bevel of the coin pile. ONLY the back of the top of the coin though... I'd make the width at the very back of the upside edge subtly thinner so that this would give that ple a feeling of being in true perspective. This would have to be subtle but would distinguish the coin and give it that true caraftsman feel as though the coins were in real perspective and not just a bevelled line graphic.

6. You're prob on to this already but thought I'd mention: The burnt outer rim highlight on the top right needs a subtle paint to hold it when its on a white or light background... would not do this in the 3D prog but I'd do a subtle layer paint with a soft brush in photoshop... do it in the 3D prog and you may tamper with overall lighting which is currently great.

Once these are done you'll have a world class coin and brand logo ID!!! Superb work... YOU HAVE MY VOTE – GOOD LUCK TO WIN !!!  :D



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: lololol3 on January 06, 2014, 08:26:33 AM

Looking for some suggestions what to improve!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Protato on January 06, 2014, 08:28:12 AM
I think LOT ( lottocoin's ticker name) should be on it rather than just the letter L =D

Coinmakr: I think you are very correct too =)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 06, 2014, 08:30:15 AM

Cool work!

Indeed, I like the 2nd logo. However, they are on a flat coin and not tilted which was my main gripe. The web2.0 for the logo and then the logo put onto a coin works for me, the branding is the same and the shape makes the logo recognizable. There is no logo for LOT like in the above examples, the coin IS the logo which is maybe where its lacking. The 2nd quark logo above stands in its own right, without it been put onto a coin. It can be reproduced in every color and its still recognizable as that coins logo. LOT doesn't have that yet.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
Quote
author=y3804 link=topic=391722.msg4335893#msg4335893 date=1388970114]
https://i.imgur.com/vkZPVt6.png


The basic idea is fantastic and love the over all design...

If I was brand Art Director on this project here's what I'd be changing...
These would be my suggestions for final tweaked version before public release to make this design world class:

1. The bevel of each of the rays should change slightly in depth from outer edge to inside where it meets the SUN/ 'O'..
personally I'd try the two variations below before deciding which is best

(A) Outside edge deepest and inside centre nearest the O just visible enough to give the  'SUN/O' a dramatic natural halo effect so that it looks as though the sun is eminating light from its source.
(B) I would also try a variation the other way round with the bevel height of the rays deepest at the centre and then almost zero where they meet the silver outer rim just to check the one that looks best.

2. Kill the colour wheel and let the gold do the talking... try a subtle variation of light and dark gold in each alternate recess space between the rays... like one is white gold and the alternate one is pure gold... this will give a fantastic 'ray effect' and subly reflect the original design concept.

3. Find out from the DEVS if final branding will be LOTTOCOIN or LOTTO COIN... important to have syncronised use of one OR the OTHER... this is most important for consistant brand identity from the start. Depending on which one they choose use this for the silver outer rim. At present you have LOTTO COIN but my personal preference would be to strengthen the brand name and make it LOTTOCOIN. LOTTOCOIN is a strong brand name... LOTTO COIN is just a 'lotto coin'.

4. Once the final version is done give it a 'Polish' in photoshop and add some 'bling'... I can do that for 1 Bitcoin but you may wish to do it yourself... I'd do it by cross vignetting some of the raised parts like LOT and give some highlight 'pings' on the rim... I'd also vignetting the surface of the ray recesses to give a feeling of light emanating from the middle... a cou[le of bling 'glints' would be the final addition one to the top of the O centre and the other on the outside edge.

5. I'd also change the width on the bevel of the coin pile. ONLY the back of the top of the coin though... I'd make the width at the very back of the upside edge subtly thinner so that this would give that ple a feeling of being in true perspective. This would have to be subtle but would distinguish the coin and give it that true caraftsman feel as though the coins were in real perspective and not just a bevelled line graphic.

6. You're prob on to this already but thought I'd mention: The burnt outer rim highlight on the top right needs a subtle paint to hold it when its on a white or light background... would not do this in the 3D prog but I'd do a subtle layer paint with a soft brush in photoshop... do it in the 3D prog and you may tamper with overall lighting which is currently great.

Once these are done you'll have a world class coin and brand logo ID!!! Superb work... YOU HAVE MY VOTE – GOOD LUCK TO WIN !!!  :D



I think we need to keep the 'lotto ball' colors. We will require this if we are to accept this design. Perhaps the colors could be mixed up a bit also?

I agree with some of your suggestions however regards 'defining' aspects of the coin. Some small improvements can still be made. We would also like 'lottocoin' to appear as 1 word around the edges.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 06, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
Ouch, you want LOTTOCOIN in one word? This puts me back for a few hours, but I will fix it.

Is there anything else that might be tweaked on a basic design?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
Ouch, you want LOTTOCOIN in one word? This puts me back for a few hours, but I will fix it.

Is there anything else that might be tweaked on a basic design?

No thats fine. Leave it 'as is'. I think 1 BTC for what you have done up until now is fair payment. If we need lottocoin as one word we will look at scraping up more $$ to pay you for further modification. Id prefer to get this logo up sooner rather than later as well, so lets not hold it up any further because of something so minor.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: lololol3 on January 06, 2014, 11:51:03 AM


So no chance with this, mr. Oldminer? :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 11:53:49 AM

Its a nice design but we were after more of the 'wow' factor. Thanks for your submission anyway. Post your wallet address & I'll send you some LOT :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 06, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
Ouch, you want LOTTOCOIN in one word? This puts me back for a few hours, but I will fix it.

Is there anything else that might be tweaked on a basic design?

No thats fine. Leave it 'as is'. I think 1 BTC for what you have done up until now is fair payment. If we need lottocoin as one word we will look at scraping up more $$ to pay you for further modification. Id prefer to get this logo up sooner rather than later as well, so lets not hold it up any further because of something so minor.
Got it. I will try to get it done asap.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: lololol3 on January 06, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
LnR2Z7SHRdBLcygYdiqNukuxDLS8erurpA thanks :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 06, 2014, 07:36:29 PM
I must say I am pretty impressed how this design evolved! :)

What do you guys say?

https://i.imgur.com/j1XKSJm.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 06, 2014, 07:37:42 PM
wow,. that is amazing, we have to use that one, thats just gorgeous


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on January 06, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
quote: "I like that... use 8 as the Lotto ball number.. chinese are superstitious and 8 is considered good luck/fortune.. 888 gold.. etc"


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 07:39:14 PM
I must say I am pretty impressed how this design evolved! :)

What do you guys say?

https://i.imgur.com/j1XKSJm.jpg

Yeah!!! Nice job! Could you render the front angle? Also I think the coin is too thick (too large). What do you think?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: noedelx on January 06, 2014, 08:19:33 PM
quote: "I like that... use 8 as the Lotto ball number.. chinese are superstitious and 8 is considered good luck/fortune.. 888 gold.. etc"


yup i agree can gjeric give it a shot to see how it looks?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 06, 2014, 09:04:14 PM
quote: "I like that... use 8 as the Lotto ball number.. chinese are superstitious and 8 is considered good luck/fortune.. 888 gold.. etc"


yup i agree can gjeric give it a shot to see how it looks?

Yes, lets try that.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 06, 2014, 09:23:53 PM
... I'm doing it wrong. Made the coin a little bit thinner, its better that way I thnk

https://i.imgur.com/gEjrJDa.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 06, 2014, 09:27:36 PM
Looks smashingtastc well done

Can you do that version in the thick dept?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 06, 2014, 09:40:28 PM
I'd just remove whole O letter and replace it with a lotto ball 8.

I'll try to make another sample tomorrow, need some sleep now :)

I assume everything else is ok with coin design now (except adding lotto ball)?

Is it really too wide/heavy? I kinda like it that way :)



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Aki4real on January 06, 2014, 09:44:26 PM
... I'm doing it wrong. Made the coin a little bit thinner, its better that way I thnk

https://i.imgur.com/gEjrJDa.png

just wow! this will certainly appeal to a broad audience (especially chinese with those colors imo)

my personal opinion.. leave out the bingo/lotto ball..

good luck!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 06, 2014, 11:47:04 PM
I'm sorry to be going against the grain, but I hope this isnt the final design. Its far too busy and colourful. I've reduced it to an 50px icon size (wallet etc) and as you can see, you lose all the detail. Most logos are far simpler such as Pepsi, McDonalds and BitCoin. These are scalable and easily reproduced. This isn't a nice modern logo for the Web2.0 generation imo.

Ruined

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/coinmakr/smallIcon_zps33b2f385.png

Whereas the Bitcoin logo is easily identifiable at any size..

http://wscont1.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/76276a02-d2a9-4713-8a75-2472fb95a546/Icon.80335.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 07, 2014, 02:06:46 AM
I'd just remove whole O letter and replace it with a lotto ball 8.

I'll try to make another sample tomorrow, need some sleep now :)

I assume everything else is ok with coin design now (except adding lotto ball)?

Is it really too wide/heavy? I kinda like it that way :)



I think it looks fine as it is and is not too wide and heavy. The 8 ball is a nice touch. We are happy to accept it as it is however if you think you can improve on it by tweaking it a bit more that's fine too.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 07, 2014, 02:09:21 AM
Great design  ;D


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 02:29:42 AM
I'm sorry to be going against the grain, but I hope this isnt the final design. Its far too busy and colourful. I've reduced it to an 50px icon size (wallet etc) and as you can see, you lose all the detail. Most logos are far simpler such as Pepsi, McDonalds and BitCoin. These are scalable and easily reproduced. This isn't a nice modern logo for the Web2.0 generation imo.

Ruined

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/coinmakr/smallIcon_zps33b2f385.png

Whereas the Bitcoin logo is easily identifiable at any size..

http://wscont1.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/76276a02-d2a9-4713-8a75-2472fb95a546/Icon.80335.png

Bitcoin logo is too simple. Shows no effort. I like worldcoin's logo though. Originality isn't a bad


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 07, 2014, 02:53:32 AM

Bitcoin logo is too simple. Shows no effort

I work in branding and marketing in my business. I advise clients on matters like this, so take it or leave it, I only mean well and want whats best for the coin as I have a few. The Bitcoin logo works at any size, its modern, easily reproduced in any colour and it sticks in the memory. The logo above, despite it been a nice design at a large scale, just doesn't work at any other size. Try create a 16px x 16px icon, or a 48px x 48px icon from it? Why the need for 20 colours? The best logos are the most simplest ones. These are the logos that stick long in the memory, not the over engineered ones.

I'm not into knocking work because I can see the effort that everyone is putting in, so apologies if it comes over like that, I'm just provoking debate. I just want it to represent the generation that its aimed for. The Web2.0 generation. Why do the Facebook, Twitter and new Google logos look so good? Clean designs and nice simple colours. Scalable be design, you could create a billboard from them or stick them on a postage stamp, they work. The BitCoin logo represents the modern generation, the ones who will use the coins.

Heres what I mean, one and two colours. Far from showing no effort, they stick in the mind which is the idea of a good logo.

http://justcreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/professionallogodesign.gif







Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 07, 2014, 02:54:41 AM
I'm sorry to be going against the grain, but I hope this isnt the final design. Its far too busy and colourful. I've reduced it to an 50px icon size (wallet etc) and as you can see, you lose all the detail. Most logos are far simpler such as Pepsi, McDonalds and BitCoin. These are scalable and easily reproduced. This isn't a nice modern logo for the Web2.0 generation imo.

Ruined

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/coinmakr/smallIcon_zps33b2f385.png

Whereas the Bitcoin logo is easily identifiable at any size..

http://wscont1.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/76276a02-d2a9-4713-8a75-2472fb95a546/Icon.80335.png

Simple solution as discussed in my ALT coin 'branding' advice thread here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390797.0)

Once the 'coin' design has been finalised the letter L (or 'LOT') is then made in to a logo. As discussed in my thread it's good to get the end user associating your brand by establishing your 'Alphabet' letter... Think Facebook 'F', Wikipedia 'W' Google+ 'G' etc.
Unfortunately L has been 'hijacked' in the crypto world by the litecoin 'L' so some clever thinking must be applied here to ensure the LOTTOCOIN 'L' or 'LOT' has a distinct and instantly recognisable personality that corresponds with the 'supporting' 3D coin graphic.



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 07, 2014, 03:03:07 AM

Once the 'coin' design has been finalised the letter L (or 'LOT') is then made in to a logo. As discussed in my thread it's good to get the end user associating your brand by establishing your 'Alphabet' letter... Think Facebook 'F', Wikipedia 'W' Google+ 'G' etc.
Unfortunately L has been 'hijacked' in the crypto world by the litecoin 'L' so some clever thinking must be applied here to ensure the LOTTOCOIN 'L' or 'LOT' has a distinct and instantly recognisable personality that corresponds with the 'supporting' 3D coin graphic.


Interesting thread, thanks for the link.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: monokaskade on January 07, 2014, 03:10:06 AM
I must say I am pretty impressed how this design evolved! :)

What do you guys say?

https://i.imgur.com/j1XKSJm.jpg

I like this one, really good work


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 06:11:15 AM
This is how I imagined to add a lotto ball without complicating :)

https://i.imgur.com/v8P3Bww.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 06:58:42 AM
This is how I imagined to add a lotto ball without complicating :)

https://i.imgur.com/v8P3Bww.jpg

F*****g smart! You're the man!

I think we still need a flat 2d version (cartoonish). Any ideas?

The other guy is right on that one, if we need a 50x50 version then the text becomes unreadable..


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 07:01:02 AM
Thanks :)

First stage was to do a flat design of it. I will show it soon.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 07:01:50 AM
Thanks :)

First stage was to do a flat design of it. I will show it soon.

Great! Can't wait to see it. Do you want a donation :) Hope you get paid well


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 07:06:57 AM
Very kind of you. I'd definitely appreciate any tips :)

My LOT address
M32eCyHmJxA2dyaMc5UQbj3gQKLWyRyPYw


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 07:28:32 AM
Adding one color and flat version.

https://i.imgur.com/irzgyUq.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 07:31:47 AM
Adding one color and flat version.

That's genius. Pure genius. The 2d version is perfect!

The 3d version looks a bit weird in this one? It looked fine two posts ago.

BTW I just sent you a little donation, I'm not rich but I think it will motivate you :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 07:41:11 AM
Yeah looks a bit distorted, I just made a quick screenshot in Illustrator. Final image will be fine.

Thank you!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 07, 2014, 07:51:55 AM
Adding one color and flat version.


Getting closer for me, although I'm not sure on the tea colour and the pool ball in the middle, I preferred the normal O.

The 2d version looks better imo. Kudos to the effort on this. :)

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20080108/Ball-Pool-Table-Ball-Distance-567216.jpg



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 08:14:22 AM
https://i.imgur.com/SFVUJUr.png

Readable under 30x30, perfect


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: jdebunt on January 07, 2014, 08:23:27 AM
the "Lottocoin acepted here" image is excellent  :)

I love the coin design too though :) great job everyone!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 08:25:35 AM
Yep, looks sharp. You'd be getting even better results with a vector graphics which is my source file.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 08:28:36 AM
Yeah looks a bit distorted, I just made a quick screenshot in Illustrator. Final image will be fine.

Thank you!

Do you think a 2d version with colors would look good? (Rainbow colors, like in 3d)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 07, 2014, 08:31:33 AM
Yeah looks a bit distorted, I just made a quick screenshot in Illustrator. Final image will be fine.

Thank you!

Do you think a 2d version with colors would look good? (Rainbow colors, like in 3d)

Quite possibly. I think we struck gold when the decision was made to add 'lotto colors' into the logo. We should keep this aspect of the coin in other designs too.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 08:34:09 AM
Yeah, adding a rainbow would be next step. Making it right now.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 08:39:06 AM
Done

https://i.imgur.com/zNb7gIn.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 09:35:10 AM
All three options are usable, depending of the application or size.

1. flat, 1 color
2. flat, multicolor
3. 3D coin render

https://i.imgur.com/pAHpTYb.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
All looking good.. What now? Do we need to make 'accepted here' logos? I think we're done here!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on January 07, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
This is how I imagined to add a lotto ball without complicating :)

https://i.imgur.com/v8P3Bww.jpg

yeah 8 looks nice. good job

But i donīt know exactly what i should think of the flat colored one. I will just waite to see the final result :)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 07, 2014, 11:15:52 AM
DANGER


The design for the 'smaller' logo HAS to be much simpler.

Take out all fussy elements like the rays and colours and piles of coins... OR if you want to keep rays in taper them so the white is thinner at edge and wider where it hits the O...
this will give the LOT a glow.

I can do these things for you for a bitcoin standing on my head...and you can move forward but time is running out...

As pointed out previously this must shout LOT when next to the bit coin B...
Keep going UNTIL you have something stronger than bitcoin B for the smaller logo.

The 3D coin is now way too fussy and too many detailed elements fighting... great for wow factor and placing on google images but no good for a long lasting world class logo... there are a couple of guys on this thread giving invaluable branding advice but please please devs let the pros guide the decision as just having 'WOW' factor is NOT good enough and will be a big FAIL.

Look how the old logo is now being used on a Google app... this was exactly why I advised early on that you should get a PRO to do this BEFORE it even hit criptsy... every one seemed to be screwing and ridiculing me about offering 3 Bitcoin to get you this done but the loss in real terms from pissing about and waiting has been 1000s of bitcoins in crucial lost time and market place 'perception' at a point when the coin needed to be seen as credible and worth investing in... its fine having 'love and respect from your community' and people being defensive when outsiders try and help but the outside world is a harsh place and a basic understanding of some well known corporate ID do's and donts would have avoided this current situation of not having a logo.

Every idiot out there thinks this is easy... it IS for the PROS who understand the basic rules AND applies them... but I have not seen any of the designs applying the simple rules critical for developing a world class final logo.

This will damage the brand in the end user space like ebay and anywhere the logo appears for the coin to be sold, traded or used and the brand will be perceived (as I try hard to alert you all too BEFORE it hit Criptsy) as nothing more than a amateur ALT represented by awful clip art.

RAMP this up guys... time loss added to a cheap brand logo that is now being widely used across the media is seriously damaging the rep of this coin!



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 07, 2014, 11:54:08 AM
All looking good.. What now? Do we need to make 'accepted here' logos? I think we're done here!

I'm just waiting for final confirmation (or any little changes) from Oldminer so I can prepare files and we can proceed to handover.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: tasorrog on January 07, 2014, 12:08:26 PM
Adding one color and flat version.

https://i.imgur.com/irzgyUq.png

This one is really nice :)

If i may sugest on thing, make the "rainbow" color slight darker, i think thay are stealing to much atention from the LOT text since the eye drags to brighter areas


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 07, 2014, 01:13:09 PM
dude, dont touch it, this one above is THE ONE, it cant get any better than that!!!! Come on oldminer pick this one!


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 07, 2014, 03:51:31 PM
don't get me wrong... the 3D render is sensational... but please please head my advice below before its too late at this critical moment.
The final LOT logo needs to be more generic and not so LOTTO (wheel) branded... big mistake here to use all these fancy elements that give the ID a more niche brand appeal. For all it's faults the original 'clip art style' sun ray and pile of coins was uplifting and positive but this just smacks of lottery gambling and loses that upbeat 'jolly' feel that will have mass appeal and be better for the wider end consumer market.


DANGER


The design for the 'smaller' logo HAS to be much simpler.

Take out all fussy elements like the rays and colours and piles of coins... OR if you want to keep rays in taper them so the white is thinner at edge and wider where it hits the O...
this will give the LOT a glow.

I can do these things for you for a bitcoin standing on my head...and you can move forward but time is running out...

As pointed out previously this must shout LOT when next to the bit coin B...
Keep going UNTIL you have something stronger than bitcoin B for the smaller logo.

The 3D coin is now way too fussy and too many detailed elements fighting... great for wow factor and placing on google images but no good for a long lasting world class logo... there are a couple of guys on this thread giving invaluable branding advice but please please devs let the pros guide the decision as just having 'WOW' factor is NOT good enough and will be a big FAIL.

Look how the old logo is now being used on a Google app... this was exactly why I advised early on that you should get a PRO to do this BEFORE it even hit criptsy... every one seemed to be screwing and ridiculing me about offering 3 Bitcoin to get you this done but the loss in real terms from pissing about and waiting has been 1000s of bitcoins in crucial lost time and market place 'perception' at a point when the coin needed to be seen as credible and worth investing in... its fine having 'love and respect from your community' and people being defensive when outsiders try and help but the outside world is a harsh place and a basic understanding of some well known corporate ID do's and donts would have avoided this current situation of not having a logo.

Every idiot out there thinks this is easy... it IS for the PROS who understand the basic rules AND applies them... but I have not seen any of the designs applying the simple rules critical for developing a world class final logo.

This will damage the brand in the end user space like ebay and anywhere the logo appears for the coin to be sold, traded or used and the brand will be perceived (as I try hard to alert you all too BEFORE it hit Criptsy) as nothing more than a amateur ALT represented by awful clip art.

RAMP this up guys... time loss added to a cheap brand logo that is now being widely used across the media is seriously damaging the rep of this coin!




Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 07, 2014, 04:09:36 PM
All looking good.. What now? Do we need to make 'accepted here' logos? I think we're done here!

I'm just waiting for final confirmation (or any little changes) from Oldminer so I can prepare files and we can proceed to handover.

PM sent


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 07, 2014, 04:14:16 PM
without big words, BANG!
I really like the colors and it fits to the coin!
IF something should be changed then swich the coin colors inside (like colored casino chips)

http://www.zontikgames.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/r/primary_2_6.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 07, 2014, 04:31:50 PM

can see a big 'FAIL' about to happen... does anyone want to help develop CHIPS COIN ???...


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: musty97 on January 07, 2014, 06:12:56 PM
No dude, lets create the Pizza-Coin lol


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: jayguar on January 07, 2014, 06:20:14 PM
Adding one color and flat version.

https://i.imgur.com/irzgyUq.png

Great logo. Just 1 suggestion from my side. If you could change the multicolors to silver or solid colors in the inner part of the stacked coins, it would look even better.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: sleepless on January 07, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
Adding one color and flat version.

https://i.imgur.com/irzgyUq.png

F**k I love it! :o

I too would try to make the colors a little darker cause the LOT isn't so present in this version.

But I'd only try to see how it looks.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 07, 2014, 06:41:15 PM

YEAH! a Pizza .coin. worth 10.000 BITCOINS!
(As U know)
------
 2010
February 6    Bitcoin Market established
May 22    laszlo first to buy pizza with Bitcoins agreeing upon paying 10,000 BTC for ~$25 worth of pizza courtesy of jercos[4]
July 7    Bitcoin v0.3 released
---------

That made the pizza man richi rich, cool ;)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 06:44:13 PM
DANGER


The design for the 'smaller' logo HAS to be much simpler.

Take out all fussy elements like the rays and colours and piles of coins... OR if you want to keep rays in taper them so the white is thinner at edge and wider where it hits the O...
this will give the LOT a glow.

I can do these things for you for a bitcoin standing on my head...and you can move forward but time is running out...

As pointed out previously this must shout LOT when next to the bit coin B...
Keep going UNTIL you have something stronger than bitcoin B for the smaller logo.

The 3D coin is now way too fussy and too many detailed elements fighting... great for wow factor and placing on google images but no good for a long lasting world class logo... there are a couple of guys on this thread giving invaluable branding advice but please please devs let the pros guide the decision as just having 'WOW' factor is NOT good enough and will be a big FAIL.

Look how the old logo is now being used on a Google app... this was exactly why I advised early on that you should get a PRO to do this BEFORE it even hit criptsy... every one seemed to be screwing and ridiculing me about offering 3 Bitcoin to get you this done but the loss in real terms from pissing about and waiting has been 1000s of bitcoins in crucial lost time and market place 'perception' at a point when the coin needed to be seen as credible and worth investing in... its fine having 'love and respect from your community' and people being defensive when outsiders try and help but the outside world is a harsh place and a basic understanding of some well known corporate ID do's and donts would have avoided this current situation of not having a logo.

Every idiot out there thinks this is easy... it IS for the PROS who understand the basic rules AND applies them... but I have not seen any of the designs applying the simple rules critical for developing a world class final logo.

This will damage the brand in the end user space like ebay and anywhere the logo appears for the coin to be sold, traded or used and the brand will be perceived (as I try hard to alert you all too BEFORE it hit Criptsy) as nothing more than a amateur ALT represented by awful clip art.

RAMP this up guys... time loss added to a cheap brand logo that is now being widely used across the media is seriously damaging the rep of this coin!



3 BTC? No one can offer 3 BTC here. But if you want to do the logo then go ahead. You'll get 1 BTC from this thread and 500k from me, alright? If you think you could do better.. It's quite difficult to find a good logo 50x50 that is still readable and recognizable as LOT


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 07, 2014, 07:33:57 PM
The logos in this thread despite been noble efforts, are just not good enough. If you need a 2nd opinion other than mine, then the devs should speak to a real design studio. This logo has got to be solid if you want the coin to be taken seriously. It seems that because there wasn't a lot of entries, that any logo would do. This is a coin forum, not a design forum. I would seriously reconsider keeping this logo design open for now. If you go with this design, its a mistake, it needs to be a lot simpler. The coin just doesn't look polished or professional and it will damage the coins value in the long run.

This is why real logos cost a great deal of money, its not just the creative thought behind them, its the long term value that logo brings to the brand. The recognisablity of the design to the public is crucial, people shouldn't have to look two or three times at it to work out the coin. Some brands don't even need a logo to be recognised, colours can offer brand association. Cadburys in the UK have moved before to protect that shade of purple they use, because the public associate the colour purple with the chocolate they produce, and copycats have used that colour for their own chocolate to capitalise on that association, and steal their customers.

Bitcoin has this, that orange will be recognised and associated with the coin with just a glance in the future, especially when the logo is sat amongst the other coin logos, say on an exchange. I'm not sure this tea colour logo has any appeal at all, is it supposed to be gold?. BitCoin nailed their branding and spent a lot of time working out the look and feel. Major companies invest heavily in design, marketing and advertising for a reason. I've noticed that most altcoins are seriously lacking here despite the potential value of these coins, it just doesnt make sense to me to scrimp in this area. Invest and you'll be rewarded in spades.

For the latest design, there are too many elements, too many colours and its confused. It's also not scalable because those small versions are too fussy. The main use for this coin seems to be aimed towards casinos and gambling sites, yet you are keen on 'Lotto Colors' and 'Lotto Balls' as the main design feature? Whats going to be the coins main use then, the lotto? The 8 ball, is in fact a 'Pool Ball'. I even posted a picture earlier but everyones just blindly scrolled past it. The association with the game of pool will add further confusion. Its not a lotto ball, or a lucky Chinese ball, its a pool ball. Google it > 8 BALL. Every result and picture is relating to the game of Pool, which has nothing to do with it.

The devs should be developing the coin and infrastructure, and outsourcing the design, branding and marketing to the professionals. If you think I'm a troll, you've got me all wrong, I'm just well invested in this coin and I'm concerned the right people aren't in place to move it forward. It needs more than a dev to launch a coin. This is potentially a multi million pound brand and needs the support of a few knowledgeable people in the right areas for it to succeed, just like any real business. I'm doing all that I can to promote it and have other plans to help this coin. I simply want it to be taken seriously as a currency and for me/you to make a load of money in the process. Isn't that the goal for everyone on here, especially the devs?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: donatel99 on January 07, 2014, 10:51:36 PM
Here is my entry to the contest! LoGZs8ybomsJw3fDuZgbMTmsQRbdRErEx5

http://www.urbangraff.ca/images_new/donatel99_lotto_coin_quarter_v1.png
http://www.urbangraff.ca/images_new/donatel99_lotto_coin_half_v1.png
http://www.urbangraff.ca/images_new/donatel99_lotto_coin_v1.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: GigaCoin on January 07, 2014, 11:08:49 PM
This is how I imagined to add a lotto ball without complicating :)

https://i.imgur.com/v8P3Bww.jpg

guys this is it, gjeric did an amazing job this logo is fantastic and will carry the coin forward, i also like gjeric's flat version too. I hope we can stick to this logo


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: rocketron on January 07, 2014, 11:11:35 PM
+1 this is just fantastic


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 07, 2014, 11:43:30 PM
Adding one color and flat version.

https://i.imgur.com/irzgyUq.png

Is it easy to change the perspective in your 3d studio maxx (or whatever software)?
it still looks a little bit like a gear-wheel on the edge and the coin seems too thick.
but my thumbs up.

look on the edge here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/2005_AEPlat_Proof_Obv.png/771px-2005_AEPlat_Proof_Obv.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: donatel99 on January 07, 2014, 11:46:42 PM
Here is another version for the contest! LoGZs8ybomsJw3fDuZgbMTmsQRbdRErEx5

http://www.urbangraff.ca/images_new/donatel99_lotto_coin_quarter_v2.png
http://www.urbangraff.ca/images_new/donatel99_lotto_coin_half_v2.png
http://www.urbangraff.ca/images_new/donatel99_lotto_coin_v2.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 07, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
The logos in this thread despite been noble efforts, are just not good enough. If you need a 2nd opinion other than mine, then the devs should speak to a real design studio. This logo has got to be solid if you want the coin to be taken seriously. It seems that because there wasn't a lot of entries, that any logo would do. This is a coin forum, not a design forum. I would seriously reconsider keeping this logo design open for now. If you go with this design, its a mistake, it needs to be a lot simpler. The coin just doesn't look polished or professional and it will damage the coins value in the long run.

This is why real logos cost a great deal of money, its not just the creative thought behind them, its the long term value that logo brings to the brand. The recognisablity of the design to the public is crucial, people shouldn't have to look two or three times at it to work out the coin. Some brands don't even need a logo to be recognised, colours can offer brand association. Cadburys in the UK have moved before to protect that shade of purple they use, because the public associate the colour purple with the chocolate they produce, and copycats have used that colour for their own chocolate to capitalise on that association, and steal their customers.

Bitcoin has this, that orange will be recognised and associated with the coin with just a glance in the future, especially when the logo is sat amongst the other coin logos, say on an exchange. I'm not sure this tea colour logo has any appeal at all, is it supposed to be gold?. BitCoin nailed their branding and spent a lot of time working out the look and feel. Major companies invest heavily in design, marketing and advertising for a reason. I've noticed that most altcoins are seriously lacking here despite the potential value of these coins, it just doesnt make sense to me to scrimp in this area. Invest and you'll be rewarded in spades.

For the latest design, there are too many elements, too many colours and its confused. It's also not scalable because those small versions are too fussy. The main use for this coin seems to be aimed towards casinos and gambling sites, yet you are keen on 'Lotto Colors' and 'Lotto Balls' as the main design feature? Whats going to be the coins main use then, the lotto? The 8 ball, is in fact a 'Pool Ball'. I even posted a picture earlier but everyones just blindly scrolled past it. The association with the game of pool will add further confusion. Its not a lotto ball, or a lucky Chinese ball, its a pool ball. Google it > 8 BALL. Every result and picture is relating to the game of Pool, which has nothing to do with it.

The devs should be developing the coin and infrastructure, and outsourcing the design, branding and marketing to the professionals. If you think I'm a troll, you've got me all wrong, I'm just well invested in this coin and I'm concerned the right people aren't in place to move it forward. It needs more than a dev to launch a coin. This is potentially a multi million pound brand and needs the support of a few knowledgeable people in the right areas for it to succeed, just like any real business. I'm doing all that I can to promote it and have other plans to help this coin. I simply want it to be taken seriously as a currency and for me/you to make a load of money in the process. Isn't that the goal for everyone on here, especially the devs?

You're absolutely right. We need something scalable that can be put on a coin as well as 2d version. It's really hard. What studios are you talking about?

While I like gjeric's design, I don't think it's scalable.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 08, 2014, 07:14:02 AM
So by being scalable you'd strip the coin to just "LOT" and a circle? No problemo...

Handover is complete now, thank you LOT dev team and everyone contributing to this contest!

https://i.imgur.com/8z8h4RO.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
So by being scalable you'd strip the coin to just "LOT" and a circle? No problemo...

Handover is complete now, thank you LOT dev team and everyone contributing to this contest!

https://i.imgur.com/8z8h4RO.png

Edit: looks like a 8ball. Should look like a lottery ball. But seriously though, congrats, and hopefully youll do more gfx for LOT in the future..


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 08, 2014, 07:48:43 AM
Thanks y3804.

I'm still a bit experimenting here. Maybe adding a simple underline like I see some lotto balls have could work...

https://i.imgur.com/6Dz98AZ.png


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 10:01:34 AM

Let's stop pissing about... 3 Bitcoins... Let's go!


I really like the 2D one, but the physical one lacks something. Can't pinpoint


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 08, 2014, 10:06:17 AM

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20080108/Ball-Pool-Table-Ball-Distance-567216.jpg


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 10:07:09 AM
Yeah he knows. He's trying to find ways to make it less '8ball'ish


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 08, 2014, 10:20:43 AM

Yeah he knows. He's trying to find ways to make it less '8ball'ish

Does he know tho, hes got his head in the sand. It should have NO ball in the middle, just the O.

This coin is aimed at casinos and gambling as its main use, why the persistence with a Lotto ball in the design, it doesn't work.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 10:22:42 AM

Yeah he knows. He's trying to find ways to make it less '8ball'ish

Does he know tho, hes got his head in the sand. It should have NO ball in the middle, just the O.

This coin is aimed at casinos and gambling as its main use, why the persistence with a Lotto ball in the design, it doesn't work.

Did you see funkycoin's design? How do you like it?


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: gjeric on January 08, 2014, 10:33:22 AM

Yeah he knows. He's trying to find ways to make it less '8ball'ish

Does he know tho, hes got his head in the sand. It should have NO ball in the middle, just the O.

This coin is aimed at casinos and gambling as its main use, why the persistence with a Lotto ball in the design, it doesn't work.

Did you see funkycoin's design? How do you like it?
Check first post in this theme.

Hint: JPY COIN


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 10:35:52 AM

Yeah he knows. He's trying to find ways to make it less '8ball'ish

Does he know tho, hes got his head in the sand. It should have NO ball in the middle, just the O.

This coin is aimed at casinos and gambling as its main use, why the persistence with a Lotto ball in the design, it doesn't work.

Did you see funkycoin's design? How do you like it?
Check first post in this theme.

Hint: JPY COIN

Didn't even see that. He basically copied his own design. Bad, bad, bad. No ones paying 3BTC for a copy, funky


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 08, 2014, 10:45:26 AM
JPY coin is a concept design I did... It's NOT a real coin... I used the sun element of my JPY coin as I won't be using it in the final design for my JPY coin.and it fits perfectly the branding for LOTTOCOIN..

The JPY coin at the beginning of the thread was just a sample of my design skills to get a DEV interested and was used by Oldminer to illustrate the direction he wanted the coin design to go... also how can you 'copy' your own design... its not a copy as its my original design...


For 3 Bitcoin Lottocoin can use this design exclusively and I'd redesign the JPY coin completely if it was chosen... the work I put in to JPY coin was loads and worth 3 Bitcoin just for that...

Seriously... The Lottocoin needs a good memorable logo that can be reproduced and read down to 50 pixels...
The physical coin is NOT the logo... its a supporting graphic that can be used by the likes of ebay sellers...

Come on let's just get this damn thing done and out there!





Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 10:48:22 AM

JPY coin is a concept design I did... It's NOT a real coin... I used the sun element of my JPY coin as I won't be using it in the final design for my JPY coin .and it fits perfectly the branding for LOTTOCOIN.. the JPY coin at the beginning of the thred was just a sample of my design skills to get a DEV interested and was used by Oldminer to illustrate the direction he wanted the coin design to go... also how can you 'copy' your own design... its not a copy as its my original design...

Seriously... The Lottocoin needs a good memorable logo that can be reproduced and read down to 50 pixels...
The physical coin is NOT the logo... its a supporting graphic that can be used by the likes of ebay sellers...

Come on let's just get this damn thing done and out there!


Can't comment on this. Why did you delete your post CoinMakr?? We need some advice


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 08, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
JPY coin is a concept design I did... It's NOT a real coin... I used the sun element of my JPY coin as I won't be using it in the final design for my JPY coin and the sun design element fits perfectly the branding for LOTTOCOIN..

The JPY coin at the beginning of the thread was just a sample of my design skills to get a DEV interested and was used by Oldminer to illustrate the direction he wanted the coin design to go... also how can you 'copy' your own design... its not a copy as its my original design...


For 3 Bitcoin Lottocoin can use this design exclusively and I'd redesign the JPY coin completely if it was chosen... the work I put in to JPY coin was loads and worth 3 Bitcoin just for that...

Seriously... The Lottocoin needs a good memorable logo that can be reproduced and read down to 50 pixels...
The physical coin is NOT the logo... its a supporting graphic that can be used by the likes of ebay sellers...

Come on let's just get this damn thing done and out there!





Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 08, 2014, 10:57:05 AM
Can't comment on this. Why did you delete your post CoinMakr?? We need some advice

It quoted a post that was deleted. So I did the same.

And just sticking up for Funky, of course he isn't going to post a totally new design up, only for it be ignored. He's used an element from a previous idea to save time, or because he liked it, and to show you what a real vector looks like. Its head and shoulders above anything in this thread still. I'd make a couple of changes, but still, its not bad is it.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 08, 2014, 11:04:15 AM
Listen guys...

I don't care if you use my design or another... The work I have done is to set the bar higher... As I said from BEFORE this coin went on Cryptsy I'd do the job for 3 Bitcoin and I advised in very strong terms it was essential as part of the launch on Cryptsy... in the scheme of the evolution of this brand and the net worth of the product being traded now and in the future 3 Bitcoin is absolutely nothing and a fraction of the cost a real world design and branding company would charge...

Let's get real here... the lost time from not having a 'wow' factor logo has cost more than 3 bitcoins... let's not waste any more time and get a logo out there!



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 08, 2014, 11:08:50 AM
oh yes and if I get 3 bitcoin I'll be investing straight back in to lotto... will help a little to keep the coin from crashing... so every ones's a winner :-)


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: m_j on January 08, 2014, 03:12:07 PM

I like this coin design, its not so fancy but simpler.


LotoCoin dont want to be associated directy with Netcoin, or I am wrong?
the design does.



btw: everyone activly posted in this thread should get a 20,000 LOT reward !!!  :)





 


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 06:42:04 PM
I like the color choice, not a bad design. Rather simple. But if this is all you can do, then criticizing others is not the way to go


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 08, 2014, 06:47:31 PM
I like the color choice, not a bad design. Rather simple. But if this is all you can do, then criticizing others is not the way to go

I have put my self out there now so flame me if you like. I've been doing this 15 years, I can do a lot more than you think, but I'm not going to sit here for days if it isn't wanted, lets hear some feedback first. I'm sat on millions of these coins, so if you think I won't speak my mind when I can see a mistake been made then you don't know me. There are others in this thread who have a lot of money invested in this coin and have spoke out, so this isn't a personal thing, its simply to make sure this coin makes maximum value so we all benefit.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: skillrun on January 08, 2014, 06:54:18 PM
i hope this wonīt take another 2 weeks for choosing the new logo.
The sooner the better. Itīs time. @funkycoin is right, much too much details (gjericīs design). Keep it simple.

hope to see the new logo soon.

keep it up
greetings


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: y3804 on January 08, 2014, 07:14:40 PM
I like the color choice, not a bad design. Rather simple. But if this is all you can do, then criticizing others is not the way to go

I have put my self out there now so flame me if you like. I've been doing this 15 years, I can do a lot more than you think, but I'm not going to sit here for days if it isn't wanted, lets hear some feedback first. I'm sat on millions of these coins, so if you think I won't speak my mind when I can see a mistake been made then you don't know me. There are others in this thread who have a lot of money invested in this coin and have spoke out, so this isn't a personal thing, its simply to make sure this coin makes maximum value so we all benefit.

Absolutely. Well your design looks very good. As I said it's prob. the best. Simple, elegant. If you can make it even better then why not. I don't know what's the status on gjerics design, maybe hes been paid, I don't know


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: CoinMakr on January 08, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
Absolutely. Well your design looks very good. As I said it's prob. the best. Simple, elegant. If you can make it even better then why not. I don't know what's the status on gjerics design, maybe hes been paid, I don't know

I tried all sorts of gambling elements, from playing cards, dice, lotto balls etc in the design. Everything was a distraction because you can over engineer logos. I have my own style anyway, it shows in all my designs. I love the clean modern Web2.0 look, its relevant to the audience that's using these coins. You can blow my design up for a billboard, or create a desktop icon from it, it stays readable and you recognize it immediately, its all about the word.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: funkycoin on January 08, 2014, 08:26:11 PM

The logo design is clean, classy, elegant and clear... I totally understand why you have stripped to the bare minimum and used the universal KIS (keep It Simple) design rule to eliminate unwanted 'clutter' and additional elements that detract from illuminating the word LOT.

My design attempts the same but keeps the original 'sun shine' optimism of the original LOTTOCOIN logo while cutting back the clutter of too many elements like piles of coins ... like yours it keeps the typography simple and clean.

My only slight concern is that through stripping it back so far it fails to have a personality and is maybe a bit 'too' corporate... my other concern is it is   slightly 'funereal' rather than expressing the key brand value of fun and conveying that the coin is 'key' to your fortune.

Take the National Lottery logo for the UK... this is a masterpiece that combines fun and optimism in an instantly recognisable logo... it has personality and cross over appeal that targets the very audience it aims at. There is no other logo like it in the world so the brand is unique. There are many logos that are text in circles (and squares)... as this is an 'easy option' to make a logo clean and readable in the smallest amount of pixel space.

IMHO, putting yours next to the UK National Lottery Logo shows it up to be too plain for the audience the coin is aiming at.

Bitcoin's simple B works perfectly as it reflects currency and the US dollar in its aim was to become an alternative currency. LOT is a coin for playing casino games and having a 'flutter' so there should be an element that conveys /bright future, happy days, fun times, etc

On the plus side it lays down the guideline for showing how clean design and clean type is the way forward as it is readable and scaleable... all important when designing for the web ... I just think the logo as it stands needs an additional 'twist'. Finding the twist that makes it more than clean type in a circle is the reason this excercise is so difficult, and as I have said so many times on this thread, it highlights why big companies spend millions on branding as it is the 'inspirational 'twist' combined with clean scaleable design that makes the difference between a brand that is world class and a logo that is too simple.


Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: cryptasm on January 08, 2014, 08:49:57 PM
lol at Funkycoin AKA CoinMakr trying to blag 3BTC from the OP.

gjeric's design is the best logo imho, obviously put some work in. Please don't take advice from 'experts' on the forum, even if they have been a graphic designer for 50 years :)



Title: Re: Lottocoin redesign - Up to 1BTC on offer or 2,000,000 LOT
Post by: Oldminer on January 08, 2014, 08:50:36 PM
The new logo choice has been made & announced!

Thanks to everyone for all your submissions & suggestions.

Please feel free to continue your discussion if you like here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404913.msg4385487#msg4385487