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There have been lots of posts from people who can't withdraw their money from scryptpools.com.  I recently spent some time doing some amateur sleuthing, and it doesn't look good:

Scryptpools generated coins pay to http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d (http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d)

Each block's payout is split.  The bulk of it (amounts down to the hundreds of thousands) goes to http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr (http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr)
The remainder (amount below hundred thousands) goes to other addresses like
http://dogechain.info/address/DG3C2iFNMH29DD1gy3i8Yv6kg4cCYGPATo (http://dogechain.info/address/DG3C2iFNMH29DD1gy3i8Yv6kg4cCYGPATo)  
http://dogechain.info/address/DQ8Jhf3S4kzrhtujUoP1NA3dev4uK9FrLM (http://dogechain.info/address/DQ8Jhf3S4kzrhtujUoP1NA3dev4uK9FrLM)
http://dogechain.info/address/DFkxutVb79wrxMKWzBMyYCcLGbyMmejjFP (http://dogechain.info/address/DFkxutVb79wrxMKWzBMyYCcLGbyMmejjFP)
http://dogechain.info/address/DME2WKidghaSDpkRRRF6BSGK9Bei5cg2Up (http://dogechain.info/address/DME2WKidghaSDpkRRRF6BSGK9Bei5cg2Up)
http://dogechain.info/address/DEuZBABgomwf388RHmjY72iaB4Su5jgvZQ (http://dogechain.info/address/DEuZBABgomwf388RHmjY72iaB4Su5jgvZQ)

payments from the bulk address  http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr (http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr) are immediately sent to

http://dogechain.info/address/DEJxNoV8Z5XdesBMnxxa4ASwEYxRshvpC6 (http://dogechain.info/address/DEJxNoV8Z5XdesBMnxxa4ASwEYxRshvpC6)

Some of the doge stays put here.  As of 15:27EST on January 3 this address has 70,000,000 doge.  If I had to guess, this is Phonetic's main storage address or his exchange account address
Payments from this address are combined with large payments from addresses which appear unrelated to scriptpools.  
The last five payments from this address:
1.) 2014-01-03 19:11:29 2,400,000 doge was combined with payments from other sources and paid to http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL (http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL)
That combined payment was then immediately paid to: http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi)  This address has over 1 billion doge.
2.) 2014-01-03 08:37:58 3,000,000 doge was combined with payments from other sources and paid to http://dogechain.info/address/DBDLHzTUt3bpAXnaHpzBkDnPkmuhbktFH5 (http://dogechain.info/address/DBDLHzTUt3bpAXnaHpzBkDnPkmuhbktFH5)
This combined payment stayed put
3.) 2014-01-02 21:35:22 4,900,000 doge was combined with payments from other sources and paid to http://dogechain.info/address/D6dBWcNfTApUtHkiP7mGd7st2KK9N2pAmH (http://ttp://dogechain.info/address/D6dBWcNfTApUtHkiP7mGd7st2KK9N2pAmH)
This combined payment stayed put
4.) 2014-01-02 19:11:14 3,000,000 doge was combined with payments from other sources and paid to http://dogechain.info/address/D67cBDy6r6vMW6d5wDbazUb7AYg5PCZGjD (http://dogechain.info/address/D67cBDy6r6vMW6d5wDbazUb7AYg5PCZGjD)
This account frequently pays out large sums to http://dogechain.info/address/DLtM4o5LwjK5RathKZLNHsc6fd9nkRudKj (http://dogechain.info/address/DLtM4o5LwjK5RathKZLNHsc6fd9nkRudKj) which immediately pays all receieved funds to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi)
Does that last address sound familiar?  That's the one with over 1 billion doge from the latest transaction
5.) 2014-01-02 18:44:09 3,000,000 doge was combined with payments from other sources and paid to http://dogechain.info/address/D6dBWcNfTApUtHkiP7mGd7st2KK9N2pAmH (http://dogechain.info/address/D6dBWcNfTApUtHkiP7mGd7st2KK9N2pAmH)
This is the same address as transaction 3 above and also stayed put


Again, I'm not an expert, but this does not look legitimate.  I ran this past a few other people, including an admin at another pool, and they concurred.  It looks like nearly all of the doge mined by this pool are being dumped onto an exchange.

It would be a good idea for people to take screenshots of their account page so they can prove their claim before Phonetic pulls the plug.

Phonetic hasn't posted anything here for over a week.  I think that miners with larger amounts of Doge outstanding might be able to get their local authorities to compel Phonetic's web host.  Another option is for somebody to file a claim in small claims court.  This is not expensive and a court order would compel the web host to reveal who pays for the servers that host the pool.  The IP address associated with scryptpools.com belongs to digitalocean, which is a US hosting provider.  If we can find out where Phonetic is located, his local law enforcement agencies will likely be interested, as his total take is conservatively in the tens of thousands of dollars.

Please keep replies to this post informative.  This thread is not the place for you to promote your pool or mock people who lost doge to this scampool  I will update the post with any further information you guys dig up.

Edit 1: A helpful stranger sent me the following information.  The pool's main email is scryptpools@gmail.com.  The secondary email associated with that account is t****8@gmail.com  The helpful stranger believes that the asterisks are 1 for 1 replacements for the actual characters in the address.  That's not much to go on, but maybe somebody has noticed an email address that fits this pattern associated with Phonetic or scryptpools somewhere.

If you lost doge in this scam, please post here or PM me.  Including your location (country, US state) would be helpful.

Update 2014-1-9
I emailed coinedup and crypsty, explaining the scryptpools scam and asking if any of the scryptpools addresses belonged to one of their customers.  Coinedup responded immediately, saying that none of the addresses belonged to a customer.  Cryptsy took six days to respond with a form letter:

Update 2014-1-13
Many thanks to clueclub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=213761 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=213761).  He just traced doge he deposited in Crypsty to the same large account where large amounts of doge generated by Scryptpools ended up http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi]http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi]http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi).  It is unclear whether this address belongs to Cryptsy or to somebody who bought the coins through Cryptsy.  Perhaps if some of the other victims ask Cryptsy for information they will be more forthcoming.

Update 2014-1-20
It took hours, but I did a much more comprehensive search through the blockchain.  This was completed on 2014-01-17:


I used the following abbreviations for the frequently used addresses:
     51d = http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d
          Scryptpools' generation address
     oktr = http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr
     c6 = http://dogechain.info/address/DEJxNoV8Z5XdesBMnxxa4ASwEYxRshvpC6
     jvbi = http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi
          Cryptsy holding address. 2.2 billion doge balance
     mxm = http://dogechain.info/address/DSYLEu6N3fjD9tGmJzq3ZBDV1or9cbNMxM
          Likely cryptsy holding address. Possibly a cryptsy customer or investor address. 1.3 billion doge balance
      

Total moved directly to c6: 119.7 million
Total moved indirectly to c6: .5 million   
As of 2014-1/17 2:30EST there are:
   1301028 in 51d
   45000000 in c6
Total stolen: 191801028 (191 million doge).  Please note that Phonetic could have stolen more via other methods before this time, such as keeping generated blocks to himself without adding the block to the pool website.  The only way to know for sure would be to examine the server logs.


All transactions out of pool generation address (51d) after suspicious activity commenced
http://dogechain.info/tx/4ae9df6acea778681e15ae411cd99ce1c5d8d877dfce7d78495192e3df7a5b2f
   20 million to oktr and 326 to a one time address which later went to oktr together with a large transactoin out of 51d http://dogechain.info/address/D8DvzPHG4bjWwdD6tspb3ig5J3GLCzvTKV
http://dogechain.info/tx/ab1dbddb7c9510f0947a9c3036f1c39acff4486691dfb4307189806f49cdb3dd
   1 million to oktr and 952.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr together with a large transactoin out of 51d  http://dogechain.info/address/DS7JS4Z8iSJuqsMPy7gqoA2T6whbz2oJ5H
http://dogechain.info/tx/d0bf0b433b1656d3dbab4a0c60e0e2f79f6dc257a799895eb4f56b1f3956b590   
   1 million to oktr and 46108 to a one time address which later went to oktr together with a large transactoin out of 51d http://dogechain.info/address/DSMkAqtgLAqwSpm3B53zSCQkZ6zKawnykz
http://dogechain.info/tx/61e0efc53542058f377c512a965c0b5533ef6db7ec3b323a9b6410e952e5a0bd
   1 million to oktr and 433 to a one time address which later went to oktr together with a large transactoin out of 51d http://dogechain.info/address/DGrq6kkntJqfzrvTA8rpterTeDamh5w8Qb
http://dogechain.info/tx/cbef250546f9abaf4a9ad17d35af98b5d5d42987d9f05957f90cc99ad910d6f2
   5.5 million to oktr and 84.8 to a one time address which later went to oktr together with a large transactoin out of 51d http://dogechain.info/address/DA83YPTeWViR9ic9Ks3TSX7hFprnwBnqAF
http://dogechain.info/tx/395cb742f042add5484cd54092c9cf75f3c9ee5d2a709dd03b0280472bd6a874
   1 million to oktr and 8131.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr together with a large transactoin out of 51d http://dogechain.info/address/DHpNfCDhpLk28sLjsahc78VR6hPaMqGChk
http://dogechain.info/tx/391fa9af60894c94ddae84a6cc4eebd987b66e3466c7d620b65a538016990ac2
   1 million to oktr and 13104.7 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DAbhS8CNvvq4Uj8xncWEGXrJmv4ukc3jev
http://dogechain.info/tx/afbc5ddb2c3c4d8c9ba257056b2210c0b84db8aa62fc95453ebded9530a4268d
   1 million to oktr and 149.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DBpu9NJn3ik25vMQCGMeNiox9DEx7WwaPt
http://dogechain.info/tx/2d50a52daa69362f7f963f19d7763cfca12dad7c96ee9236f8712e9a0471875f
   1 million to oktr and 2385.7 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DQp9vxVjhCbSdZfbnyiiXZPJW1ukpNbYQM
http://dogechain.info/tx/a5c8c525b980af581af09ba4d723818230ecdcc6d5b163ec848422797f061a47
   4 million to oktr and 58650.4 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DFwtocaMmaxnPwVJEfTo8LDM7UvtD5SFPo
http://dogechain.info/tx/294cdbcc21e0f18216e1e933ee69134cda82fe26363c7c4c73a7c74649678ed0
   10 million to oktr (large amounts from 51d plus many of the small transactions listed above)
http://dogechain.info/tx/5f2b9a927c4043a09cd93e47199d6bd4a66f69ac8a087af7490b97837284c4dc
   10 million to oktr and 174.6 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DEoPptNXDU7tzknx4mhpbQ8WP8geQJ4xsq
http://dogechain.info/tx/33b18b48718b9eaab58fad8397618c6be01168bffbbb913eca098ed58776fb50
   1 million to oktr and 85220.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DDc226EQm5RzP3V9G1Yxth6rW9siMCw7rJ
http://dogechain.info/tx/a600ad58cbc23f972337a4d969eabeee7b82eada614925098458e9b4c53785e9
    7.7 million to oktr and 4183.5 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DRsZxWZ7aQpKP837eKpXmibuRD388o1gDZ
http://dogechain.info/tx/0b669e67755d95fe49dc1c7abf52c3946381acb456736657237ff9a64e6e6a9b
   2 million to oktr and 76802.3 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DD48sRRicfWaMLxYfFySpXFvM6wamfXggx
http://dogechain.info/tx/2825c04ebb308be43d8b62a03c69201b5a8e5bf070b712eb234e844c923d3b05
   1 million to oktr and 21344.1 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/D5adW8mWNLrWJiw2HyeT9DKgfCK7q5rLzq
http://dogechain.info/tx/fc06a652b5467b9a3ae2001e3e584709bb9bc5563f7dd0578a80bcb8876a3f2a
   2 million to oktr and 10432.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DLkQriLSk4gPEZxskUJ5bdY5uRqUDCUV68
http://dogechain.info/tx/6f904dff0d818ec03716c9ea7e1dff13565103bd3e9a998abee7df03df70601f
   1 million to oktr and 36959.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DBQzBMC9b1MKDTZaWETkJ3RtYHPxhbNRWx
http://dogechain.info/tx/cbef250546f9abaf4a9ad17d35af98b5d5d42987d9f05957f90cc99ad910d6f2
   5.5 million to oktr and 84.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DA83YPTeWViR9ic9Ks3TSX7hFprnwBnqAF
http://dogechain.info/tx/1e8b67f09e234208a32fb1dc339af635d184b768ebf0cfb681fc19c1ffad599e
   4.9 million to oktr and 18.3 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DEuZBABgomwf388RHmjY72iaB4Su5jgvZQ
http://dogechain.info/tx/8d2deee09c37ea235baa60a87a37f74511d3fe990e11003e7a799fce480630cd
   3 million to oktr and 6141.1 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DJvweraMzQTBxq6aFG2841jrBPp5nGTMZg
http://dogechain.info/tx/1a8b8e1e65da5fa26af06b9dd874b787b4ed3b1b795d63c62babbcc5ca216976
   1.5 million to oktr and 114311.2 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DExcMaTao4bDKasn1YbNVeVuytmP1FLrpb
http://dogechain.info/tx/e434003571585b168bf152febcf3526061b45ef8aee1242693107e7328b6e42c
   4 million to oktr and 773.6 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DSutvMyLxx5p6RAsUQqDH9Pi7niSBcSEpH
http://dogechain.info/tx/24fea37350bdbc3527561c24cefc2a1b9011c4297801accd984b2548f17bbfc4
   1.5 million to oktr and 1044.2 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/D7Fhv3po5SeACCohwFyhaduhdLDFSFR9tp
http://dogechain.info/tx/904991f3a439f1254a67d9ed334d2f25eb978e084df1b85d811a45b1b40f94bb
   7.5 million to oktr and 994.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DE4JnZmttj2JthCLUxoq8HbK9bAseB854r
http://dogechain.info/tx/4d9d27cfee6531ecea5ebe1c5f7780289a510998d610aa2cee3867083b4c32e6
   3.8 million to oktr and 9488 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DBpzAyN9iBKeWg2kr69R1K3nu32xhVWc8B
http://dogechain.info/tx/76f6d945c3fbbf3aa79cf4f5e87122d32891df5d3cf262b24b5a4622fd0039f1
   3.4 million to oktr and 417.3 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DBSvCx7rpo2QwmNNvpC3FQiExwwAHoJmmH
http://dogechain.info/tx/34eaf3323a9e0bd5ab9c60a0110732aa598a9321a930d95b38e73ef704f43485
   3.1 million to oktr and 22816.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DH2GEgRzF9GXH2RuA1UWiVJhNRUcyyn6Wv
http://dogechain.info/tx/71a754bf587200105d2465e7aa248aa050c8c3d654d1eb41eebdce4d936a3f6c
   1 million to oktr 56137 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DTzvdsDo2iRqianMiHwLmd7FqCoLdsf1pZ
http://dogechain.info/tx/ed4fd3587aa103a661662f102a981483bf78eff8dfe6fa36d99b73bb4af03649
   1 million to oktr and 370683 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DAeJSnLqWeHdcEYpUvRxxnxCMjm1RWTxPu
http://dogechain.info/tx/1e8b67f09e234208a32fb1dc339af635d184b768ebf0cfb681fc19c1ffad599e
   4.9 million to oktr and 18.3 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DEuZBABgomwf388RHmjY72iaB4Su5jgvZQ
http://dogechain.info/tx/71739cac4e2749f39923a902eecc3107b40aff4e5ebf67d61c3a4ceaf6f1f915
   1.5 million to oktr and 40075 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DME2WKidghaSDpkRRRF6BSGK9Bei5cg2Up
http://dogechain.info/tx/14ffe8962068e6d3c3457c19e742a923ccb9d0cc9748ac1852b7fee2a6b96c41
   2.4 million to oktr and 532.4 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DFkxutVb79wrxMKWzBMyYCcLGbyMmejjFP
http://dogechain.info/tx/8782aa54f4964065667bc79efbce560c182b9e0cb70962ad1559cbfa3626a8b8
   1 million to oktr and 40162.2 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DQ8Jhf3S4kzrhtujUoP1NA3dev4uK9FrLM
http://dogechain.info/tx/af67f00618256306f28b6eed8434e27f5e7598f2683dc75ab10c6b21dacb9b30
   3.2 million to oktr and 19475.1 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DG3C2iFNMH29DD1gy3i8Yv6kg4cCYGPATo
http://dogechain.info/tx/38bc965e8ee3da95ef1cf34b5d4475620fbd57f3724c20dccc55272cee5a2dc3
   1.1 million to oktr and 6827.1 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DJTsQSVz5eFb3Lrmo7wwM6LDxiuhKN4Hc7
http://dogechain.info/tx/b309e063cd43f5fb9a0d866f422e9ddbbc7cc5c1c3dcb7bfb44e721938f96a9f
   5.3 million to oktr and 34776.5 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DQ5N2gTWd9csueFV26rGfXEKuNBBrNnqBe
http://dogechain.info/tx/3920c036ebf16aff09549f137f7c02ad1a84aeb592f1709a21069134eb1ea787
   13 million to oktr and 32.5 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DPTTTndNieDfC7x4Q1z11aPnbJN7YBaSFV
http://dogechain.info/tx/13af8931dc99fad23b23d513924e817c431c6b11357474594b14411d30a6ae66
   4 million to oktr and 5220.8 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DBjD8L8c9fCfkiqeo5iYycFx81nuo7aKhA
http://dogechain.info/tx/50fb2a6701ba17dc11a1db8c62a9382c0e969042df39e5e79efe2d1e91e6c2eb
   1 million to oktr and 55347.9 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DBF9HvCGWTKWAsrC6x5yz4uz58ZUve3D5y
http://dogechain.info/tx/871072287663534beb82f08258a99ae272f165866534bdb511a4c1fd25b44a81
   2.8 million to oktr and 32355 to a one time address which later went to oktr http://dogechain.info/address/DDPjiJT8F1z46t1oqks56hSzMachmHmkMv
   

All outputs from oktr after payouts stopped are directly to C6, except the following, which total 25.3 million:
   5.5 million is split http://dogechain.info/tx/e8277aaa8e01a05b11bc537587fab61ee3d00a80ff1f5262c4314550c0a8c31c
      2.5 million of it goes to c6 indirectly   http://dogechain.info/address/DMNaLEc5st8VP8gsoYEMN7c2JNzcF9p182
         All 2.5 million paid out http://dogechain.info/tx/b129fb285ee4501d84873bd4cd663eae59a1f47a9bbb5eabf5d7cbcd985fdd95
            2 million goes to c6 (this amount is subtracted from the total above, as it went to c6)
            .5 million goes to http://dogechain.info/address/D61rZX9cdK3XB4PX9L1vb5xTwpzi6B3QAP
               .5 million is combined with 1.5 million from oktr and goes to c6 http://dogechain.info/tx/cfdf3eb44725e158cb716714f41c7bfdf56792e1f0fd803e7e61a1899977ca71
      3 million goes to http://dogechain.info/address/D6oHQjjX54UYVp6GX8crmP7xb299p8tehn
         All 3 million paid out http://dogechain.info/tx/ef61d332c10f54bbedc11dc837c837d1311d4920a918fe2c366be2f8a933797b
            Combined with other payments to a likely cryptsy holding account http://dogechain.info/address/DAe5o3aQUYCNNnDbsWZZttnpKxp7dgXGju
      2 million goes to jvbi http://dogechain.info/tx/a483caf5e070d7a355ae00419a91ce119bba1cc258fe16c249ee6f173bb55d38
   
   2 million to http://dogechain.info/address/DGn178puyXcHNpTRvc7zZpjXzWmokZkaWc
         All 2 million paid out http://dogechain.info/tx/4ca0d67e01fe88858335a894617ca5cd9148a577710c0fa88c286cafd4097e24
            Goes to http://dogechain.info/address/DNJkcuh7QsqiQz21Hf55tRUGfsvmim3Jq5
               2 million combined with unrelated payments to jvbi http://dogechain.info/tx/ae66c2be3d169cb3c8926b98a792294b9d9551ae9d7f31cc53b60cb0cbd0a28c
   
   13 million split http://dogechain.info/tx/95959ed0d997ce285724ca9d5e27228fb4e68fb5bf66224f42a29f4dcb68f9be
      8 million to http://dogechain.info/address/DKpV9FyW2Mx8Xbi23zVaiUa2Mtry8bqW9q
         8 million paid out to http://dogechain.info/address/DRsLWQ6DbihdFzyVWrrfAH6JvZdhoypRMk
            Combined with unrelated payments to mxm, another likely cryptsy holding account http://dogechain.info/address/DSYLEu6N3fjD9tGmJzq3ZBDV1or9cbNMxM
      5 million to http://dogechain.info/address/DRsLWQ6DbihdFzyVWrrfAH6JvZdhoypRMk
         5 million paid out to http://dogechain.info/address/DPStBDbFaV3FCYJXSwcCCocSHkDrNeWDr5
            Combined with unrelated payments to http://dogechain.info/address/D8azfm2NXTYHCcdGTQ832ew65RgoT4Zdup
            
   1 million out http://dogechain.info/tx/61e4e968032496f8d4b7ec7f9fe43a53587999a02c774c228cc167053554974c
      to http://dogechain.info/address/DRsLWQ6DbihdFzyVWrrfAH6JvZdhoypRMk
         1 million paid out to http://dogechain.info/address/D5XEgbUwgWPNDZshXJYz4f9umTBuiY2N1s
            Impossible to say precisely what happened to it from here.  If anybody else is interested in following it farther than I did:  
               There are two unrelated inputs of the same size 5 hours later  There are three outputs of the same size, one 6 days later and two 7 days later.
                  Following the first of the three outputs leads here http://dogechain.info/address/DQe7PqDzoTvqsS5a2eG9q8QafKKKGq9hQW
                     Then an immediate payout here http://dogechain.info/tx/e41bf50798c8e6a2dbfbab8874d0fdb1ec916ed45cf3ffcb0d48de64bd8773b0
                        Which goes here http://dogechain.info/address/D85e4gvBkbkJTF6VpKub89BMMUW7mB1kVp
                           The same amount is immediately paid out http://dogechain.info/tx/aa530d07f671919c88bfe3bcda0ecf14c983433c354e9ed9919049ae37b5f3e1
   
   4.3 million out http://dogechain.info/tx/5de754967eea838cb8082843b4cebf9eb1eaae69e7887df077b10d2a37fde799
      to http://dogechain.info/address/DCoMHLE123wW5geJEV66DkSSMCbEFdWC51
         4.3 million combined with other payments into a 10 million doge payment http://dogechain.info/tx/a450c9c35643202607f20a34f200ae70c25ef6285a84057c234f05d295b333ea
            to http://dogechain.info/address/DQLpgpStx1HSRfdeVy1KqGfJGZfJvrxqLS
               It appears to have stayed here, as all subsequent outputs had a symmetrical input beforehand

      
For the sake of completeness, here are all transactions from oktr to c6
http://dogechain.info/tx/1da6002524d7212248609301c0bfd40abfcd1d3c0a64ba36754be6ecd7081b21
   20 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/2ec7ad4c000c62f9304864fdbd8640dbde955fa1bf2a78997afdc8bd4a84dad5
   4 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/80efc5fa818a1a3d8f7b935f3ee755a14a236f6ebe1ddb27e07c5120bc73c3ef
   1 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/b3d80cae54fddde5cd424a4028737d54b7c2500bf94eea7a833baab427458f8e
   25 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/7dacf62ed8330da9952c0e059a99d1352fb07f7d0ec5a471c907f9487a72cf0a
   2 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/e08361b5d9676b93829bc5c1fbd4571577ebb646770be3ff0d17e66939320458
   8 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/9a6bdfd16f5bc7850b2d06893eb1d6b51dbbd7436e81ed5d19dac32459d362de
   2  million
http://dogechain.info/tx/9a6bdfd16f5bc7850b2d06893eb1d6b51dbbd7436e81ed5d19dac32459d362de
   2 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/db0a3298f9b2354a3723502f208c5fda66b64dcfe68d943d5f3e73d726db4175
   2 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/691b8feecd653cc5582f533d14ddab57b53c889cc74b8b2d1f2de3e1fbb4d810
   3  million
http://dogechain.info/tx/e24f013249d094c605caa53926c9ce486ebf07c822e9b81808478fa748999065
   2  million
http://dogechain.info/tx/cfdf3eb44725e158cb716714f41c7bfdf56792e1f0fd803e7e61a1899977ca71
   4 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/be9ba0ddd50e1b4033155e5698a066c850203b0b3e80ef8271fd2706189fc254
   1.5 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/c61ef0282449b96229c90b8f1ca8c454d3f56ca6b3e763cb56cb25b03f8e41d4
   7 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/c96ecddcd034d30b0eb628f6aba49af5f38d7c56edd30e3cd8ee8726c6ee23cf
   4.3 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/efc50a20fcd6e703c2d3b6aa555a54498daa8b768a5e78747e2475edd8b08781
   3.4 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/add22d341d360ecfc29a90f24fc52e344443e2a108dac71f04948f798fbcf48a
   3.1 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/aaa50453465384d221ad21c4db6c245b8f469f9300fa67e6cf945684f8ddedf7
   2 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/a483caf5e070d7a355ae00419a91ce119bba1cc258fe16c249ee6f173bb55d38
   4.9 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/fe045ea3a0d75772600f1391d0d1b2b503327a602216c564a6bdc0efae2c9cb5
   1.5 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/f3fd0ca98279503abd2e5df186891effa6e47ea079f3d76ed0e2411af9407e4e
   2.4 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad
   1  million
http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209
   3.2 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/4a272aa46516a00f32be7db3dc0acbd067544c52d744e6eac55e4517c14a903d
   6.4 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/054ef439e90a16bd9cb4fea77e72d9ea4493b656331f0dbe54408fbf647fa8b3
   4 million
http://dogechain.info/tx/223d3938e4dd561d0531bbed5a9567b2466c0f6bcc09c6feebff285bba8a467e
        4 million

Thanks for confirming my fear. First cryptopool.it now this..  >:(

I question why none of the mods here have posted his email address or even commented on this? Money funnelling like this, on this scale, he's not the only one involved, and with his address we can search other sites that it may be listed on. His nickname shows up on btce chat logs, for instance.

Too bad we can't explore the block chain with a visual aid, maybe it would help explore where the doge is ending up, similar to this: http://blockchain.info/tree/105867105

I'm pretty sure you'll find most of the doge moving very quickly to Cryptsy's wallet and dumped on the exchange.

I found this in a reddit post, supposedly Phonetic still frequents cryptopools?? user posted a supposed "statement" that phonetic released on their homepage but I can't find it..but if it's true, then phonetic is possibly in bed w/ cryptopool, which is also a known scammer pool.


not that I would believe any of that horseshit if it was really phonetic saying it.

and source: http://4x.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1uaza5/miner_pool_httpdogescryptpoolscom_scam_one/

If you read through the comments on that post it seems as though it's been identified as not being Phonetic.

If your not getting paid out every ~10,000 or so Doge then your in the wrong pool.  https://fast-pool.com, https://www.suchcoins.com, and http://dogep2pool.com:9555/static/ are all legit places to mine Doge and get it at regular intervals. (I've mined in all three pools and switch incase of downtime)

Great work, and thanks to all who are using their resources to help resolve this issue. I'm also stuck with unable to transfer 177762.77921028 DOGE  but I'm not giving up hope. I'm not convinced this was dishonest action, but it taught me a valuable lesson about pool mining.

I'll continue to watch this unfold.

Its obviously super shady, but Im not exactly sure how this constitutes a crime. Just fools being separated from their "fake internet meme-money"

kinda hope this leads to the death of dogecoin

yeah and which criminal safe-haven do you live in that allows internet wire fraud to take place?  ::)
even a quick google search can tell you that this violates laws in more than one country. specifically here in the states,  this violates  the law and is considered, under 18 U.S.C. § 1343 , wire fraud.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1343

have a little decency for the folks out there that that got scammed by this guy. there are some who lost over $500 and that is considered grand theft here, also a federal crime.

"Hello, this is the local police.  you have a crime to report, you say?  you lost $500 of imaginary money named after photos of a dog?  your proof is screencaps?  ok let us get an APB out for  t****8@gmail.com.  we'll shoot to kill."

oh, cute, you tried to make a funny.
anyway, considering the multitude of his victims and the fact that he did indeed transfer these into actual fiat still constitutes a crime. and the fact that he gave his personal details to that stupid t-shirt company to make his designs it would be easy enough for anyone who wants to to track him down.

at any rate, good luck trying to find this guy.   I can see you're practically standing on his front lawn hurtling water balloons at his stoop.

i'll even donate 10 dogecoin to the effort.  again, what proof do you have besides 'screen caps'?

such interweb detective

wow

how about the 50+ victims and accounts that are more than just "screen grabs". it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this shit out. you obviously don't know how a blockchain explorer works, or any of this for that matter,  so you can just go ahead and go back to playing with your shapes and colors :p

I don't typically wish bad things on people, but i seriously hope you get ripped off by a scam pool one day so you can experience the feeling of being taken.

sympathy goes out to the 50+.

but again, what proof will you show the federal prosecutors?  esp. when they do not recognize dogecoin as anything with any value, you cannot demonstrate that damage was inflicted on these people.   your recovery would likely be limited to lost electricity.  

again, it's imaginary money.  i'm sure the class action lawsuit v. Blizzard for the loss of millions of Stone of Jordans would be on the docket first.  

I did:  mined catcoins.

well, noone certainly is stopping you from your speculations.

and that's the way it should be.  

you're free to show the jurisprudence that indicates the USA considers Dogecoin to be a currency.  

these are the inherent risks of working without the protection of 'fiat' currency, and this is the reason why so much fraud exists in the altcoin culture.  no regulation, no protections.

I got out of there just in time. I feel bad for all those that lost doge. You never know when it'll happen, but look for trouble signs. Some people stayed regardless because they think their loyalty matters while being shat on.

I've been to just about every doge pool and dogehouse.org is the best pool right now. It's only superseded in hash rate by Multipool. Rare downtime and backup port. Minimum 500 doge automatic withdrawals and the owner is available in IRC most of the time.

great and all, but i didn't get scammed by this guy at all. i actually caught on to it way early because i'm in IT and i was noticing discrepancies like block IDs getting scrubbed from the database and such so i made a thread over a week ago about this but people still mined  ::). but god forbid there are actually still good people out there who like to point those who don't know what to do in the right direction!

"They say you're bad. I have a feeling you're bad. But I just can't quit you Phonetic."

Ugh no way to keep the trolls and self-promoting pools out of this thread eh?

I just woke up to find them crapping this thread up too.  We'll see if the mods can help.

Fuck! That's 70 Million DOGE  :o ? It's like $40,000 !

I still can't believe it's happening, considering I myself mined there on first few days of launch.

Do you guys think the current down-trend is because of him dumping that stash? Many chances though

Manage your risk. My 1,000 Doges wont rock the exchange, nor my well being, but it sucks for big holders.

If your car is completly worthless, and i steal it. Then i sell it for $100.
 Do you mean this is legal?

If people will give you money in return for something, it has value.

There is the alternative. Find out his address and post a bounty in DOGE. lol.

Don't feed the trolls.

If you don`t feed them, they will starve.  :D

We can only hope.  ;D

I'll be happy to donate my scryptpools stuck DOGE...nah screw that.

Make an anti-scammer foundation, in order to investigate events surrounding this Scryptpools LOST DOGE episode
and I'm sure plenty of ppl will donate real moneys (BTC), me included.

Still have a large amount of DOGE stuck on this pool.  Sent you a PM with the details.  Hopefully it is not completely lost.

I'm not sure if it will be relevant now as Phonetic hasn't been online on this forum since the 30th December but shouldn't the forum's admins have a log of the IP address' that was used to log into his account?
Even if we do get that he will most likely be hiding behind a VPN or Proxy, but it's worth a try.

Hope we can get somewhere with this, I personally lost over 200k to this pool, but I know others who have lost more.

Natodemon

His IP address, his email address, none of the mods appear to frequent this part of the forum..

I can't find an admin contact for bitcointalk.  I PMd a few moderators, but didn't get a response.

Unfortunately i have to agree with above poster. Its extremely difficult to prove any wrongdoing.

Yeah fuck this prick, he took off with all of our DOGEs. Wish there was something we could do to AT LEAST prevent him from profiting off of our work.

turn off webpage doge.scryptpools.com
email not working  scryptpools@gmail.com
Technical details of permanent failure:
The email account that you tried to reach does not exist.

Yep. Site's gonezo.

the following is from my earlier post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=404112.msg4374082#msg4374082

im sure someone is chomping at the bit (pardon the pun) to debunk me.

ill try my best to explain what i think i know. i didnt have an account, and the rules restrict me to posting bla bla bla....

so i was researching ideas for a doge coin based game. i ended up at the dogecoin forums. go fig.

they have a crowd-sourcing section, dogestarter. there was one post that caught my eye. a "team" of devs with one game already published and available on the app market. i thought these might be some good guys to try and team up with, so, performing my due diligence, i checked the other posts by this id, as there were only 6. all posts were similar in nature, suggesting skills, upcoming releases, and a donation address. there were like 3 or 4 listed between the different posts. i decided to do some blocksniffing. there were a few donations coming in, mostly small, but they all were sent out almost immediately. hmmm.

i followed one of the larger moves for 30k. that went to a wallet that was empty. 2 transactions. a few hundred shaved off with the bulk transferred to another wallet. hmmm.

this went on and on and on. tx, split, tx, split. i must have went 15-20 pages following along. this was a major deal. im aware of the concept of a tumbler, but this was different. i eventually wound up at a wallet that had over 2 billion doge with few sends. finally, the dragons horde!

after a few minutes in a chat-room, i hear about the scryptpool fiasco and i was given this link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397762.0

the final wallet address is the same one i came to after following the chain, starting with the donation address for these game "devs". ill let you perform your own due diligence and track things for yourself.

start here.
http://doges.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=6092

follow those wallet addresses, im guessing they all end up the same place.

if you search for the business name listed by the user id it returns the company website and a linkedin profile for the company ceo. so it appears to me the user id from dogecoin forum is also in control of the 2 billion doge wallet that "stolen" payouts from scryptpool were transferred to.

so, for the ones slower than me.
dogecoin forum
forum id
wallet address match
2 billion doge balance
company website
linkedin profile

ps. i saved all relevant pages, at dogeforum and linkedin in the event they go 404.

whenever there's trouble, we're there on the double.
clueclub

I will delete this post upon editing the above post. Please add to the 2 billion dogecoin amount in bitcoin and USD dollars please so that we can proceed. The authorities will want a dollar amount. And even in todays value its a shit ton. I would assume that the bulk was unloaded December 28th.

at the time coin was worth .00000065 BTC December 28th on https://vircurex.com/orders?alt=doge&base=btc

He made another big dump on the exchange today too.

Just add the wallet address and LinkedIn profile URL. I think I found the latter but navigating the blockchain is a bit much for me yet.

A bounty is forming @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.1180

I can confirm this. The trails from both scryptpools and Apsyon Inc follow a similar trend in how they are tumbling and they have both funneled money into this massive wallet address http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB. This is another address with a significant amount in it at the moment: http://dogechain.info/address/DFygnuv3bKWkL8KUSc87RxjG7xmgZFNZaH

I believe this is the LinkedIn page he is referring to: http://www.linkedin.com/company/apsyon-inc-

The two events seem to be linked or at the very least they are using the same tumbler.

Edit: I have been thinking about this, and with the way these transactions are happening, is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?

Apsyon Inc. Offering Escrow Service: https://doges.org/index.php?topic=5538.0

Wow much coincidence!

thx mitymouse! need more people to confirm the trace though.

that was one linkedin page, but not the one for the ceo. google just the business name. start at the dogecoin fourm link. that user id posted 2 donation wallet addresses that lead back to the horde wallet. the user id also posted a company name, that when googled, gives a linkedin account for the business AND an individual. dont google the escrow service, just the business. 2 separate pages. im not posting any links in the event im wrongfully torching someone.

Edit: I have been thinking about this, and with the way these transactions are happening, is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?

i dont think so. thats not how exchange wallets work. although a member of the staff could confirm if any wallets in the alleged chain belonged to them.

 if you have a stake in this, do the legwork, start checking the block transactions from the links i posted. if you come to the determination that they do in fact lead to your stolen coins, start investigating the business, and the ceo listed by his own linkedin profile. you can sit on your ass and watch someone on teevee solve crimes, or, you can get busy with a spreadsheet and be your own detective. the blockchain is nothing but links, showing transactions and wallet balances. just keep following the money. you will know you are there when you see a ginormous balance and the account #'s match those posted by the OP.

is this thread the "official" complaint thread? how many people were actually victimized? kind of hard to get everyone together with the website down. is the OP still around? is HE leading the charge? if you can save and edit the name of 50-60 webpages to a flash drive, you have the entire case in your hand. thats about 30 for each side of transfers, including the pages that would link said stolen money to a real world person living in new york city. whoops : P

 the connection has been confirmed by at least one person.

Just an update of the bounty @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.1200.

It is currently @ 540k Doge

Holy. Sh!t.

Look at this page (http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-dogecoin-addresses.html)

4   D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB   2013-12-17 09:49:22 UTC   2014-01-07 21:42:24 UTC   84   2013-12-17 09:57:53 UTC   2013-12-17 09:57:53 UTC   1   583,427,996 DOGE ($124,760 USD)

Just out of question, how does he actually take your dogecoins? Surely there is no option in the admin control panel for this function or what lol? kinda confused how he would take everyones doges.

I contacted both Cryptsy and Coinedup with the addresses from my post.  Coinedup says that those addresses do not belong to them.  Cryptsy created a helpdesk ticket but hasn't responded to it.  It has been four days at this point.

Can we contact the coin developers? see what they think or if they can do anything?

theres no way in hell this pool mined 3b coins in the 2 weeks it was in limbo

as soon as the payout problems started the hashrate started to drop

im not saying he scamed millions of coins but 3b seems to much

I got ripped off from many over night pool operations as well. This is why I mine with Binary Clock from dedicatedpool and never have looked back. I can reach the guy in chat, and get support right in the chat. Once you find a pool you trust it is better to stay there, and work off the coins that is offered. I wish you guys luck.

+1 dedicatedpool has been rock solid for me aside from a few brief hiccups (nothing like the other pools though).

Interesting... following the trail, Apsyon.com Whois data:

Before you do anything with this information, make sure you're SURE it's the guy. Anyone in NY? Need another verify before confirmation pls.

marc@apsyon.com /dioxcyde@gmail.com / ApsyonEscrow@gmail.com

Registrant Name: Marc Seal
Registrant Organization: Apsyon
Registrant Street: 246 North Rutherford ave
Registrant City: Massapequa
Registrant State/Province: New York
Registrant Postal Code: 11758
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Phone: 5164481505
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: Dioxcyde@gmail.com
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Marc Seal
Admin Organization: Apsyon
Admin Street: 246 North Rutherford ave
Admin City: Massapequa
Admin State/Province: New York
Admin Postal Code: 11758
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: 5164481505
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: Dioxcyde@gmail.com

Can I just ask WTF is up with the tree in his front yard? https://i.imgur.com/JTNOkQK.jpg


Also, him: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/marc-seal/30/104/962

LOL

So, how do we confirm it's the guy? Following the money leads to the same address, who can confirm the address owner, if it's an exchange or not?

He's also 'Kurcide' on reddit and doges.org

I could not find any connection in the blockchain between the donation address that let you to this guy and Phonetic or Scryptpools.  If you did, please post your results.

A witch hunt that hurts an innocent bystander is not going to help us find Phonetic.  Please be responsible and do your own legwork to ensure that you don't dox an innocent bystander!

For argument's sake, assume this is the right guy and that he's watching this thread. If that was me, I'd be shitting my pants. I might even do something desperate - who knows.

I wouldn't want to see something really bad come out of this. Point being, as far as I'm concerned, if Phonetic wanted to come out of hiding and explain himself, I'd probably be able to give him a pass. This is assuming of course that there was some technical foul-up (people being double-paid) and essentially he got to the point where he didn't have the money to pay the pool.

If those bit fat wallets that people have been pointing to belong to him though, I can't see how it'd be anything other than theft.

Nor could I (too many other transactions going on at the same time), but two others did, so maybe they'd care to share the links step by step in the doge chain trail?

How did you go from this to posting a picture of the guy's house?  If you read my original post, I wrote "It looks like nearly all of the doge mined by this pool are being dumped onto an exchange."  Once coins hit an exchange, the person who buys them would have no idea that they were stolen!  The large account likely belongs to an investor or exchange which, likely without knowing they were stolen, bought the coins that Phonetic sold off.  If coins from other sources end up in that address that does not automatically make those other sources suspect!

A witch hunt will not get us any closer to finding Phonetic and could cause considerable harm to an innocent third party!  Think before you post!

There was also this in response to the "is it possible that they are both just using the same exchange to dump their currency into?" question:


I think clueclub is the guy who put us on Marc's trail to begin with. Maybe he's right and we need to start a spreadsheet linking transactions.

+1 to that

Keep up the great work guys.  I have just added 5 million DOGE to the bounties (4 for retrieval and 1 for identification).  Let's make an example out of Phonetic and show the crypto community that scammers will be pursued to the fullest extent.

Wow that's really awesome. Also sorry, you must have an awful lot of DOGE there. :(

That is a substantial sum!  Thank you for the support!  With that much in the pot, we may be able to interest a forward thinking attorney.

I posted his house because WTF. That tree is righteous. I wasn't attempting to imply he was guilty by revealing that he lives in a house with a messed up tree in the front yard.

On the contrary I am skeptical that it is the person we are looking for.

I am currently working on a spreadsheet that links the two events together through their transactions. I have also contacted one of the mods to see if he is able to help confirm whether this person might be Phonetic.

Nice - I guess I won't attempt the same so as not to do double work but let me know if I can help

Just another update from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.1240 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.1240).
Thanks to everyone contributing to the bounty as well as a substantial sum from Cryptoin. The bounty for the identity of Phonetic has grown to ~1.3 million Doge and a Doge retrieval bounty of ~5.3 million, which totals to ~6.6 million Doge.

Keep up the good work guys  ;)

Nice - I guess I won't attempt the same so as not to do double work but let me know if I can help
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It would help greatly if you and anyone else who is up for it could do the same as me actually as I am having a heck of a time trying to recreate the chain I took to link both of them to this address: http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB

I started here for scryptpools, which is the address that muchdoge provided: http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d
I started here for Apsyon which is listed as a donation address in the link clue provided: http://dogechain.info/address/DK17aeKTQ9TLhkTYNLP6R5urWYJyjPbKmY

What I have been doing is opening a new window in Chrome and ctrl+clicking each link so that it opens the page in a new tab, then I have a trail I can go back through once I find a correct path.

I'm also saving all of the large addresses that I find in separate sheets so that I can compare the two lists when I'm done.

I'll post again if I can find any links again.

Awesome work guys!! Nice to see the community doing something to try and stop some of these thieving bastards.

Ok I'll give it a go as well.


I was thinking of finding one of my payments from scryptpools and working backwards. Maybe someone who understands crypto coins a bit better can jump in and at least point us in the right direction strategy-wise.

you should proceed as it will be good practice. its 46 tabs from the initial wallet listed on the doge forums. follow the 30k transaction for starters. from there follow the money movements. from the git-go, the transfers dont seem normal. there is really only one fork in the road, at one wallet around the 40th tab. and by fork, i mean, there are 4-6 choices for outgoing tx's. all up to that point are mostly single option tx's. money in, money out, 0 balance.

Is that really a good starting place? I mean what directly ties that address to scryptpools? I thought I'd start with deposits to my DOGE wallet from scryptpools, but I'm having trouble identifying a common sending address. Not to mention I'm not sure how to weed out any other particular DOGE pools I might have mined at.

Phonetic is back. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.new#new

ahahah he just added that so people will back off while he sells the rest of the doge

Well the bounty is only coming down when we are remunerated.

Phonetic posted exactly the same stuff he already posted 32 days ago.  ::)

He edited his original post as well as his signature to reflect his apparent sentiments

"I will find a way to get enough doges to process the rest of the payouts and reinstate my credibility."

why would he need "to get enough doges" when he apparently has 3b doges stashes away

hes just buying time to bug the hell out

At this point, only action counts.

http://dogechain.info/address/DK17aeKTQ9TLhkTYNLP6R5urWYJyjPbKmY

http://dogechain.info/tx/23468993d450b8e2cc8ad905afc2548e393f36c35940a4467812e126b838d035

http://dogechain.info/address/DDv8SsDh9pRwcHPdFsSqnATxMZPbKsgnJ7

http://dogechain.info/tx/cc6fe0e2864e846aaa617e1f33a87b66aa5e154f8d34b691bdf0e4c94dc8f785

http://dogechain.info/address/DNq3Ybt6rmJUiQhMd4jk9UabhmEAVXmsQo

http://dogechain.info/tx/2aa75afc27f9f8d8feeb2eea36df8ece5ac000608e5342a8e8dc1ad21723fc41

http://dogechain.info/address/DS3R3LeyPv5N3mb7qef1chgSWg4uSkQstT

http://dogechain.info/tx/b99a7ae722d0b2e26b82dca4f2570735397f6e9a18bbf26e8e4001b938f1f0cd

http://dogechain.info/address/DKo11XGmVhoAiC91D2qKShxV7hSQw45oT1

http://dogechain.info/tx/e026234b6a8d0ee135a8b95b574f412eb7c772cf63b81f29cf8db21fb849c84b

http://dogechain.info/address/DC7CFPfXKvKmxTbcw5Qd3DcNcu8wczfZRe

http://dogechain.info/tx/4b8118bdec773e3ff56a13fe7ed0470dcf008152bba6421582d5a1a4641edcc3

http://dogechain.info/address/DPzymNVZWeRasHPesbNn3cpnMUBRAJHsE5

http://dogechain.info/tx/9fc3f95b9b2764df39ed7a5a8693b2c8d4d35db00c0aa6f25a65645f4d8d35a5

http://dogechain.info/address/DSHi81hiHXdQFKMu4Xb1yPbCr1rhdYnwd3

http://dogechain.info/tx/fa59273a9859cebebd66ff206edcfd5ca2517e0ce57d05d2b4e40446772d454c

http://dogechain.info/address/DCZr8dZksPbpxiLD3ShoLAMebbfrKz22tN

http://dogechain.info/tx/83a8bd2a6eaf12d5e97bf4978c85fe4ad276fd99a1b8d455e3c3ee6bb9849665

http://dogechain.info/address/DPFUbr7irKsTEAfhKRuTF2NmRThGRct7y4

http://dogechain.info/tx/7e3fcf122c3b0c583ae6b0d24ef71330864c06f4fef686e297d59b6c1f9d828a

http://dogechain.info/address/D9LF3KB7r3XRhg5hg3yEK1rGzhPKboJskG

http://dogechain.info/tx/a840443b115451f78c60a0ed0cb34bb86e4a589fb71f4e259c9737a595832602

http://dogechain.info/address/DTRPBXAUBdZzDewvZM7mA956hjJTiM42Uw

http://dogechain.info/tx/c7d4e0d233bec0821ef4bbce99438dd65429324fafa3891d818dd76d205f01c8

http://dogechain.info/address/DThmMa48wjYPiiafBZZLpbKZrfpqKXt4db

http://dogechain.info/tx/2d647cb8f41fdece9a91e29194a95c949d57773988993ee1b95a118099b7d4c4

http://dogechain.info/address/DT3Luu7ojkZQAf3uD9Yr9ifwV1Sy6FwkFL

http://dogechain.info/tx/d1b69474634d9f0b36f76cd57ad52a46e5d13eb3e47fd4317ac34d7aca53ac2e

http://dogechain.info/address/D5Ue7PnG5v3ZjTyg1ix6AQJPvg9RLDgo9R

http://dogechain.info/tx/6c57f94e83375fb4881b241459027a41a2281d7945850624341b269820b56e6c

http://dogechain.info/address/D9kykmMvscFd58w8LwLFNFNv3sCs5hkRQy

http://dogechain.info/tx/47c900381047da425a080464618686c0037622ddf74b5c74e8674be1fe90d9a7

http://dogechain.info/address/DJ8KCejoLcnqsxcwgDy5Q6aAq12gciHj8s

http://dogechain.info/tx/a03f063ad0cb1314dc5efe781104b3ab5ceb99057c1f80d18306f8e6511d3978

http://dogechain.info/address/DHYFk5cUffzqBcfoF26iQ7pQnJkonqtfLC

http://dogechain.info/tx/245624dc399d481a89cf8822a1d036c0830adb0b1cb4de63703c679dacfe0713

http://dogechain.info/address/DKi85wM4NyAWcaRox7M9H3Bt2x3qjKVd2m

http://dogechain.info/tx/3df8a3222a2b7e2c0cbd0e710901b36bfeafc0066c95fa651c103a2bd96f2beb

http://dogechain.info/address/DQkqUcTe5Bc5wvcU6UvaZ2DmvPNvUcQt2x

http://dogechain.info/tx/80cc474d1a552befbef28dd52d087ea55993a04406d53ef0c0fc1cde3d3b2858

http://dogechain.info/address/DRpcKw8t3s23JCaRPfHW3Ycf4tnqSyn7Ev

http://dogechain.info/tx/c146126290d69b3b45904b6e186591555780680eeea8b6cc0f9c37920570cc06

http://dogechain.info/address/D7qwogWYbo8PVhN41Ngth49tsmbX8HSDTr

http://dogechain.info/tx/4f66aff1be072bd54a250d5b604b237cf3d2895c9648d5d7cea75fd7fef878e6

http://dogechain.info/address/D6EAYFHbv1UTfxmczx64R5hy8WDgGwRD3G

http://dogechain.info/tx/35d2228b8abdfca04165d4d89798eff57f6a7d2b83835ecd63c8fa7200e98f2f

http://dogechain.info/address/DQ9j7vnToCg8u5jmVK2mVmjEqANtnJZTjN

http://dogechain.info/tx/998f91de1968cbff4db7799fec701bce4a8f6ff04b76db73011afdd748edfc70

http://dogechain.info/address/DBZ9NsjdDfbDc4BqVikcEhXNPm8kesEByr

http://dogechain.info/tx/afc48d9afb947da29ff9b82fbe0bafdbb1211b29acceba453c2d5b2d2c3f8f27

http://dogechain.info/address/DU5jm5FMRswyEaqdr5e1p3kaJbUNF7J9F2

http://dogechain.info/tx/4b93751c3256a11195d55f837ccf3b85a1e36690471b00446c7bd71e48a5dbe7

http://dogechain.info/address/DKirdbmqG2k2VxNQhtYvpQvRVATYToL9ut

http://dogechain.info/tx/0cc339a1df53481c1b64f5912fac0956197183fda25c566372c252dbf41ba183

http://dogechain.info/address/DBoWsm9y9CbCWnXgGJXP4VH176ji5xHdWS

http://dogechain.info/tx/dd1d9b6617b06572e756af56c08a9acd84c2c8a1bfecd72ecc84c939002e0138

http://dogechain.info/address/DJhqveMs2K4KGkV1FU2Fw4YFjwW8BkZWm9

http://dogechain.info/tx/3f540739fbeb8116ccf1cb3ecb80487283d49fccd7b1a688b43786a5e13a2818

http://dogechain.info/address/DAgtDoCiRTiW7CJAGPBXtkUdVsPaaBfenu

http://dogechain.info/tx/0d6d5410bd3abe1a8ed4fa44c5a9b8896fe30da6a4ccfeef1ccfafc35bcee060

http://dogechain.info/address/D84fxAv6oMVwefGEcXtmdBUNXY91PJ68Zy

http://dogechain.info/tx/bddbbcff745b51a1d8da4f9f63a72d3f9f54f5f6fcbd344f346a1d9ced35caec

http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL

http://dogechain.info/tx/90383a803abb8568e39a833fb86eaf3503a47a983fe7b10d375b016c7c932fb6

http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

well, this is the trail, if you can call it that. its something. ownership? who's to say. the beginning address is tethered to a real world person. at worst maybe they could explain their tx and funneling methods.

now, if you can tie your scryptpool coins to the jvbi account, which was supposedly done by the OP, you can start to ask why.

still a shitload of questions to be answered.

that was actually my third attempt to recreate the path at this sitting. twice i hit different wallets with parked coins and no sends.

the third time i stuck to wallet links whenever available, only using tx links when necessary.

again, the only link im suggesting is that there is a "path" that ends at a destination provided by the OP.

i suppose you could use the in-wallet message system to contact some of the active accounts.

would it be out of line to ask an advertising game dev, to explain how he spending money out of an account that was described as an investor vehicle? not soo much to prove his innocence, but more to help shed some light as to where his "ownership" ended in the chain. with all those emails and a twitter account, it shouldn't be hard to ask.

That. Is. Ridiculous.

Good work clueclub!

Thanks Clue. So far I haven't been able to link the scryptpools account to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

I finally found a trail back to one of the common wallet addresses I found though, http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB

This starts out using the scryptpools address that the mined blocks go into that OP posted. I'll keep poking away at it in my spare time and see if I can either link scryptpools to http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi or Apsyon to http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB

http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d
http://dogechain.info/tx/5bbd18eb2880ca3659b77d40cfca7a9f1b34ad1d162e664a1b0cccb2f87bc40b
http://dogechain.info/address/DG7Q9x6cmNVdtJ9HSCGiaqthDDgBAZvo2y
http://dogechain.info/tx/eb973995295c77b8fd17da640f86dc79bc126743a9e4cf57455757eaa01d240b
http://dogechain.info/address/DMDr1uzfh41n1ocK5Sdc9aY4oBWzWRGBuN
http://dogechain.info/tx/aab49ff4c3438e7f058abbeb7e2cc8610e9cf603c4d7e539d3518931822cde20
http://dogechain.info/address/D5xVTtRVqfc5VUKbXwNyVPe1D5WVYF8AsB
http://dogechain.info/tx/6f4106296a9e09baa66c716060eba500dbcac4275924137349f7baafe52c68c0
http://dogechain.info/address/DM33QTAS3VQtduyD66cdMd6E4Bq1tzzNAF
http://dogechain.info/tx/b2e93e4a7d1f5f940347e2c1a76fdaf567dbeb5d8204a9f2a2c0fbcc0ede4d30
http://dogechain.info/address/DHP1Y8tDCk7p55DsR3WyhEPehBVQNNDEze
http://dogechain.info/tx/963e635b6623afd494adce15c6091648c9342cb1785964ff2a8cd11f5389db02
http://dogechain.info/address/DMUCsq7yqpjjoxwUkdd9EyoZfay3faaNdJ
http://dogechain.info/tx/e36c95d1dbe062ef7ef2b0108f0c89bc31a7407fdf4a8fb25e2dcf96e388810c
http://dogechain.info/address/D8dXf57yE2asdbLSu5T4BgGTsMjgn6bvxq
http://dogechain.info/tx/f7b67e4a401a1f95a8d3eef2c675e024c32bae8f7981fec26672c1505a3b2d50
http://dogechain.info/address/D5V4WUq4pqPTsohUjKM2kgYCEw4j66e7By
http://dogechain.info/tx/6c4944fed17e140139f8b9bebad42531f6485ce54c05a1271d006459ab2cc45c
http://dogechain.info/address/DFh3DQmBLGJUuAaLHjHhi4qpVLyf31BKaW
http://dogechain.info/tx/bec9c6ac4ec14d858eecda4417e1a85d0e392823533b2ed228a78809b2caf7b8
http://dogechain.info/address/DNCw3HCzBAn2adZnBmh6gW5tzZHW6vytU7
http://dogechain.info/tx/ad4ac02c735f6eb63684284a837fa5ecf66040621e2f24a15af268365e40210b
http://dogechain.info/address/DTcEKLBpitWvXYHbEzWQb18ozKfD6tnRX9
http://dogechain.info/tx/3eff533d9f0d88021ad6438bac8bd759f3c5a25e7f3d9b957bc4928eff8fdc05
http://dogechain.info/address/D6Ert5ybfAJoNDNT3hc44H4Gb7vE93bxpn
http://dogechain.info/tx/1bc600a91d501c93ff6992de7865b8d138bcc41aeaad1486effc4e6852938550
http://dogechain.info/address/DQD9W1dp1gpZbfaYsU5dcCB9FXshYHG3RH
http://dogechain.info/tx/41432e75aa4cdd40c255857f7ecdab3b2836ed5109870922d54a2e1ed6790bc7
http://dogechain.info/address/DGE67a4iJbSN4L7N6EGxbPiYZKLyPxcPYT
http://dogechain.info/tx/2dad742c4c76d034612d2c217ccd1cc78e6d17c2d148f02ee20d2321a44c5a2d
http://dogechain.info/address/DAWUvaw2T4XLKGpQq68YuJjn4H2Mv5mf9A
http://dogechain.info/tx/7a41006d1b511f875f68707b9f310b1946d7c3e1af6d51961faaf3130d5da4e9
http://dogechain.info/address/D9YActhMpZ13DVFykFPqzgoycpr3TFuYLq
http://dogechain.info/tx/fb333de0e0d3ae7d880218f0331a4d09e45371bd44baa3bdf8252537972daf13
http://dogechain.info/address/DR2qB3VJh1ZbtKURgWFRwwFZUNYwXy3Vrm
http://dogechain.info/tx/829bec91d97320b4b6d707946637dd90769ab1ab49d3b41568b1ea2152b3750f
http://dogechain.info/address/DGN84rKMFfnjKENfRNXmG961NVDeVG2kXW
http://dogechain.info/tx/3e831ed576a99a471d6579602a2e94e4819a9fe4969749fef1965087fb9f83a3
http://dogechain.info/address/DRwNDwD13NUgnx7emJw34139vyjZjbsinG
http://dogechain.info/tx/6418a3919c8c9f1353971a7075dc1120449e202e2b287b6b065446a1d892713d
http://dogechain.info/address/DJRkw7pCTcEjHDDH9HQbSRUexGsMHQjGKN
http://dogechain.info/tx/92fbea9384a5ec07312a97446eaf61d2fb718e535f25ddc34bdb0b31a86f739d
http://dogechain.info/address/DSgE8ywFQJET5HGTHTshABS5Z4kwmhEFSM
http://dogechain.info/tx/9a6713b1d4ec2e7bc89d5e341e6ecaadfcd1bbe9a73c1139a167be017baefab4
http://dogechain.info/address/DDkB8YBHTfhjiW1i8wzCV5wzp7K5ANCNi2
http://dogechain.info/tx/900d4e7494786828fb3665f6ee3801c3e0a190ef1be3583d586891204871c22b
http://dogechain.info/address/DNFwt2LuQci1YiZJ79KsUruaDs2JJzwn45
http://dogechain.info/tx/3f2c082d16f038a77cdb45d41b27a43b9c17236f5ac2daceeb2433592423d02c
http://dogechain.info/address/DKnfSmXNvbR12mCdrh3BV1JBL98CApjYho
http://dogechain.info/tx/4ab43b20783a5fd7491988f476fb1c21c907c8b57b7702e4bec569e5793b9e60
http://dogechain.info/address/DU8Fyhi3Jef1mrmsDsj3eY7iuaiCGRFYxq
http://dogechain.info/tx/a2e44ce8ce0e16fcd6606be3daa91b011ef709665116cfaa557f15da0289817c
http://dogechain.info/address/DFBPBdvafYdtjyKqNZve6nC3pysNqoiMXr
http://dogechain.info/tx/9526ea96a3d766710a9983b497d79ccc8233d3c08320644ecbff88886260a9fb
http://dogechain.info/address/DMARoeYJFQBF3Xm5ciWRuz9ivLZAwTZZU6
http://dogechain.info/tx/317d01b515e4192d49290459eaa8e0ca4fed382f77bfad655bf0904e424746ea
http://dogechain.info/address/DTZ3Ut2DZ8ePtUaCZNYpHmX48EZQhMhPAL
http://dogechain.info/tx/041286edadfdba5842869c18e48881e6c6d1136ae37b8e41c791eca1bad7b55e
http://dogechain.info/address/D6JicVw8ntX3BW7x2bKAZM5zWuHDskkDWB

I posted exactly how you can do just that in the OP.  I'll put it in the format you guys are using:

Generation pool:
http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d (http://dogechain.info/address/DBosmYAzYJ22rFoVETozJ7nXYQLeN7r51d)
http://dogechain.info/tx/14ffe8962068e6d3c3457c19e742a923ccb9d0cc9748ac1852b7fee2a6b96c41 (http://dogechain.info/tx/14ffe8962068e6d3c3457c19e742a923ccb9d0cc9748ac1852b7fee2a6b96c41)

http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr (http://dogechain.info/address/D79AecQuo7Zaar19qtAMu6BBe3p5J6oktr)
http://dogechain.info/tx/4a272aa46516a00f32be7db3dc0acbd067544c52d744e6eac55e4517c14a903d (http://dogechain.info/tx/4a272aa46516a00f32be7db3dc0acbd067544c52d744e6eac55e4517c14a903d)
and http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209 (http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209)
and http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad (http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad)
and http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209 (http://dogechain.info/tx/e5271952df329fa1412ca835ee9c0dc70769d3df1dfc5228a3e585681e0aa209)
and http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad (http://dogechain.info/tx/0e8db9919ca01f506d61336f6b2c1ee212ab078982507247b8b62303a125f5ad)
and http://dogechain.info/tx/f3fd0ca98279503abd2e5df186891effa6e47ea079f3d76ed0e2411af9407e4e (http://dogechain.info/tx/f3fd0ca98279503abd2e5df186891effa6e47ea079f3d76ed0e2411af9407e4e)
and http://dogechain.info/tx/fe045ea3a0d75772600f1391d0d1b2b503327a602216c564a6bdc0efae2c9cb5 (http://dogechain.info/tx/fe045ea3a0d75772600f1391d0d1b2b503327a602216c564a6bdc0efae2c9cb5)

http://dogechain.info/address/DEJxNoV8Z5XdesBMnxxa4ASwEYxRshvpC6 (http://dogechain.info/address/DEJxNoV8Z5XdesBMnxxa4ASwEYxRshvpC6)
http://dogechain.info/tx/a6fcfe278b58ab03a91c59713dddefb84742d4754b9484fd9af687b4f311f1ad (http://dogechain.info/tx/a6fcfe278b58ab03a91c59713dddefb84742d4754b9484fd9af687b4f311f1ad)

http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL (http://dogechain.info/address/DRSRMuaaYTDCS9FCNVFty3CKtZRsUtTcXL)
http://dogechain.info/tx/b14ed1e3f8ce15d2a6c9670ce12f7e3e687ff6aa07ac778379db837cf806cfc1 (http://dogechain.info/tx/b14ed1e3f8ce15d2a6c9670ce12f7e3e687ff6aa07ac778379db837cf806cfc1)
http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi)

also
http://dogechain.info/tx/b056bdebb6576ebc227c097c1ad26b47226c342ed6f7e8f02b3851bf2b33ce76 (http://dogechain.info/tx/b056bdebb6576ebc227c097c1ad26b47226c342ed6f7e8f02b3851bf2b33ce76)
http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi)


I have said this multiple times, but will say it again. I do not think that the "whale" account http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi) belongs to Phonetic  Not all of the scryptpools doge ended up in that address.  I think that whoever owns that account ended up with the Doge after Phonetic sold it, through an exchange or otherwise.  The purpose of my original post was to show people that the money mined by scryptpools in the period after Phonetic disappeared and payments stopped was not sitting still, but being sold off.  

It's great that you guys are digging through the blockchain and trying to piece this together, but it is completely irresponsible to post an address, phone number, even a picture of that guy's house, on the evidence you have so far presented.  What you have demonstrated is that some of that developer's money ended up in the same whale account that bought some of scryptpools' doge after it was sold off.  That is not surprising, as that account contains doge from a huge number of sources.  If you have something more solid, by all means present it.

Interesting...

Two posts, no replies to reasonable requests for information.  More of the same.

Agreed. I see no reason for any change of plans.

In my opinion, what we need is a John Doe civil lawsuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_defendants).

That will allow us to subpoena DigitalOcean and/or Teespring and get Phonetic's identity.

From there we can continue the civil suit and file a complaint with the FBI (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx).

It's not super expensive to get the lawsuit started but if anyone has any lawyer friends they can hit up, please post back.

something to add for all the junior crime fighters. i wouldnt skim these articles, nor the comments.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/09/05/follow-the-bitcoins-how-we-got-busted-buying-drugs-on-silk-roads-black-market/


then, when you are done there, chew on this for a while. again, the meat is in the comments, and they do go on for quite a while.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1rvlft/i_just_chased_him_through_a_bitcoin_tumbler_and/

and just in case you didnt put it together in the hour of reading the comments, http://www.reddit.com/r/SheepMarketplace/comments/1s2upf/the_sheep_market_scam_address_does_not_actually/


ill be nice and try to summarize. early, early on in the tracking it was discovered that the "thief" was somehow manipulating a btc-e deposit address that was being used by many, many btc-e customers.  a user recognized one of the wallet addresses listed by the OP as showing up in HIS chain. as it turns out, the thief dumped the coins onto an exchange and sold them off, early in the chain. so in effect, many people thought they were somehow manipulated into this "scam".

i stated earlier in the thread "thats not how exchange wallets work". i dont think i could have been more wrong. start with your known wallet address, then make a deposit, any amount, into your exchanges deposit address. now follow that on the blockchain. your coins will set there for a few minutes before being transferred out to a house wallet. whoops :(

I asked a few people on my pool's IRC channel for the addresses they deposited their doge in with Cryptsy.  I could see the transactions where they sent their doge to these addresses, but there were no transactions out.  I assume that Cryptsy leaves them in the "personal" wallets until they sell them.  I didn't see the expected move to a big exchange wallet.  Do you have any examples of it working the way you describe?  I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't been able to find any examples of that yet.

I emailed Coinedup and Cryptsy.  Coinedup responded immediately and said that the addresses didn't belong to any of their addresses.  Cryptsy gave me a form letter response:


They haven't responded to any subsequent inquiries.  Maybe they are too busy.  Maybe they know that the Scryptpools doge was dumped on their exchange but they don't want to deal with the controversy.  I wouldn't exactly blame them, it's not their fault and there is very little they can do to remedy the situation.

This law firm represented victims in a cryptocurrency class action before.  Maybe they would be interested?  http://www.gslawny.com/ (http://www.gslawny.com/)  They have the added advantage of being in the same state as Scryptpools' web host, Digital Ocean.

Nice. I've also talked to a lawyer friend locally that claims could get their firm's services discounted. Personally I'm hoping that amount up for identification bounty is enough to cover filing the suit and issuing the subpoena to get the identity. Beyond that continuing with a civil suit probably doesn't make sense but then there's the criminal Internet fraud route.

Would someone be willing to contact the above firm? I'll see if I can get a price out of my friend.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060196/
 The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
"Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo." (original title)
A bounty hunting scam joins two men in an uneasy alliance against a third in a race to find a fortune in gold buried in a remote cemetery.


can i first ask, how many deposit address did you check? out of the 2 examples for one account i have, they moved in 24 and 12 hours.

honestly, i was a little irritated you asked me to show examples. im not sure why i felt that way. i think it was more frustration frothing. i went back to retrace my steps.


to start at the beginning, here is the block creation and movement into the pool wallet. http://dogechain.info/tx/84cf2fee7c8b5ec4251b8ef3c38772a9ba0a2f0ffd15ac17604bc22baa2cae50

here it moves from what i believe is the pools wallet, which is not individual but quite mingled, to my cryptsy doge deposit address. http://dogechain.info/tx/39ae2519de0161d2188ec0dd3a11c97a9216fcc2cadaa856f0f7f2cd5be429c2

here is the cryptsy doge deposit address. i posted one sell order, and left the other sit. both moved to another wallet without any action on my part. its part of their internal process apparently. http://dogechain.info/address/DPhEW1xEjQEVJrc9XoiZD8CdSmSovcLRWt

if you follow the 2 mil tx, http://dogechain.info/tx/9f60c3270ea71c69386e5fa2b470c45ab77ab209d3f844f9e94cb0b99aff06b8

it moves to one wallet and sits. http://dogechain.info/address/DDZ1qhnttyHqMhdTyyLLEJg8kndkkYWrLW

being only one other tx, i decided to check it. the 1.8 mil. it makes a move to another wallet as shown by the tx http://dogechain.info/tx/22506de77387bb4175f3fab329379ca80642c09616f1654faa829000d5317f82

from there, that wallet make deposits into a few accounts as seen here. http://dogechain.info/address/DTkRmHuy1LYeTeeZSt3otpPkdC1d1S9hEG

here, im admittedly getting a little lost. in addition to checking the wallet that my 1.8 was sent to, i checked the tx. http://dogechain.info/tx/9288d7fe694b0ada2a419d43a01cabec2084f5fe78f107b4a15926dedeeb5483   ???

only 2 outputs. and 2 steps away from my initial deposit address.

interesting, no? i guess it makes sense why you didnt get a reply from cryptsy, and you wont without that attorney.

The good the bad and the ugly.  I like it.  Crypto is the new wild west after all  ;)
 
I wasn't doubting you, I just wasn't able to find any transfers out with the 4 example addresses I tried.  I was going to add "I don't doubt you, I just wasn't able to find one myself" to my request.  Sorry if my post came across as condescending, that was not my intention.  I appreciate the fact that you're one of the people willing to do time consuming blockchain exploring!

I'm wondering if crypsty moved your money around because it was a much larger deposit than the ones that I checked from other people.  If you don't mind me asking, which of the two did you sell off, the ~2 mil or the ~1.85 mil?

no condesention, it was more frustration in the respect i couldn't see why it didn't work the same way with your experience. do you have a cryptsy account?

at any rate, its not out there in black and white, did you see the final wallet my deposits stopped at? just a mere 2 steps from my initial deposit address?

edit:
Number of outputs    2
Outputs
Index    Redeemed at input    Amount    To address
0    8bb07ac971…27bed80912    0.0100409    DJfsvLuy2cjbAqZzBqZij189gXNR33wnjt
1    b548bf7f04…af9c993584    10000000    DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

so.... me, your scryptpool thief, and poor mr. baby seal.....all use cryptsy.
its why cryptsy didnt reply to your email. half the addys you submitted to them, are theirs.

the 2, and it did not/has not sold yet.

Sorry, I edited my post a few times.  So one of your transactions went here http://dogechain.info/address/DDZ1qhnttyHqMhdTyyLLEJg8kndkkYWrLW (http://dogechain.info/address/DDZ1qhnttyHqMhdTyyLLEJg8kndkkYWrLW). The other one ended up in the whale account http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi (http://dogechain.info/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi)!!  So that is either Cryptsy's wallet or an investor who buys a lot of doge from Cryptsy.  Either way, that is probably why Cryptsy isn't responding, eh?

What do we do with this information?

Is there anyone who's been scammed and lives in California (preferably San Francisco) willing to be a plaintiff on this? Evidently, California law is advantageous for this type of thing.

I'm in touch with an attorney who specializes in Internet fraud and who also has an interest in cryptocurrency. He's potentially willing to give us a break on the John Doe complaint.

With that we can get the subpoena(s).

Props to you guys for keeping the pressure on him. One way or another the community will get to the bottom of this!

Do it! The lawyer by default would get the money by identifying him, even if it takes a subpoena

(cross-posted from the other thread)

Guys - we need someone from CA who got scammed to step up and be a plaintiff. As far as I know it's just a matter of putting your name on a legal document. Probably a short conversation with the lawyer for basic info. With that, we can get the subpoena(s) and identify Phonetic. I'm not sure how much further I can take it without someone to do this bit. Possibly the lawyer can use someone from another state. CA evidently has advantageous laws for this situation. Maybe there are other states, not as good as CA, but that are worth trying if we can't get someone from CA.

If you're willing to step up, PM me and let me know what state you live in.

Hate to keep cross posting but I don't want any of the users on this thread to miss this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.msg4573807#msg4573807).

so is it confirmed the 3b wallet is his or some rich investors? i still have my doubts the pool mined that many coins in such a short amount of time

Not sure if anyone has already attempted this but I signed up for a paid account at domaintools.com to run a whois history report on scryptpools.com. I figured it may have been possible that the whois protection was added on after registering the domain rather than at the same time.

I was able to find 5 historical changes to the whois records but unfortunately none of them contained any personal details, only DNS changes between CloudFlare and the registrar.

If there are any other domains that may be linked to this guy please provide the details and I can attempt to run a history report.

I did the same and got the same results as you. But I've gotten a bunch more domains since then to lookup (and I've since cancelled domaintools account). PMing you some domains (there's a reason to keep them out of the forums at this point).

Any update on someone from Cali willing to set in motion the legal action to subpena cloudfare and bitcointalk for his identity?  If you can't find someone in Cali I live in MI and would be willing to do whatever is necessary to identify and prosecute Phonetic considering the large amount of DOGE stolen from me. 

try contacting the law firm in the link above, they are in NY, and posting your results. damiano seems to be a resident of california, and an active participant of the forums. you could try talking to him before you contact.

smapdi seems to have the attorney contact in california. 

If Phonetic is related to Apsyon (or is the guy), he will regret this... considering his whois info contains his home address???

hope you guys can continue with this is some way. This was the first pool I have ever mined seriously with and this kind of stuff gives the whole community a bad name. I lost almost 400000 doge to this guy ($741.6 USD) which could have gone to paying off my $2000 rig. If anyone has more information please let me know.
Thanks

Picture here: http://imgur.com/wK5B4UY

Trying to get everyone involved in to a Skype chat (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362153.msg4686453#msg4686453).

the suspected address is still sending/receiving transaction to this day

http://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DU4wp32x4kvHHqnhPXJ1LnzsS48LedJvbi

i think we were wrong and this was not phoentics wallet

im pretty sure the initial estimates of 100-200m doge stolen was more correct.

You're misreading the top post.  I never said that Jvbi was phonetic's wallet, I just noted that some of the stolen Doge ended up there.  It looks like this is address either belongs to Cryptsy or one of their customers.

Any word back from the law firm?

The guy I spoke with suggested a John Doe suit in federal court. Unfortunately he wanted $10k to get from initial filing through subpoenas then evidently the defendant has the right to fight the subpoenas and the subpoenaed entities have 2-3 weeks to comply ... and eventually it'd be /possible/ that we wouldn't get the identity (but likely that we would).

Anyway, the $10k number was the real sticking point and wasn't anywhere near the identity bounty IF you could even get everyone who claimed they'd donate to do it.

Basically I'm out of ideas. Unless someone else has gotten better figures from another attorney or we get Reddit to donate Jamaican Bobsled Team-style to the cause, we're probably SOL.

I suggest that we stop discussing general strategy here for everybody/Phonetics to read.
Let us start working with an email list with the people who are willing to put money on the table to move this forward.
I am also willing to get active in this case and do some coordination work please pm me.
I will pay 0.5 BTC upfront to get this started. I am very sure we will get the 10k together.
We will sort this out guys. The legal way might be slow but eventually we will finish this.
ateneto

PS:
This has been the first time I lost money in the BTC world.

PMing ateneto. Suggest anyone who wants to continue on with this do the same.