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Mission Statement Deft
A powerful high secured memory hard blockchain based on Stanford designed balloon hash will allow users to use the deft chain as a basic layer and deploy easily own parallel blockchains ( top-balloons) on the top of it and interoperate and collaborate between them, creating interconnected powerful secured blockchains (superclustered-balloons).  The Codebase of the deft chain will upgrade to the newest Version 0.16 and instead of one hashing method, we will introduce five variants of the revised balloon512 algo, which can be mined concurrently for fair user experience.

Introduction
The first cryptocurrency to implement the 'Balloon' memory-hard hashing function, superior in strength to Argon2, while remaining resistant to cache/side-channel attacks.
Additionally, the Balloon Hashing function does not require anywhere near as much memory to demonstrate its memory-hardness; making it possible for low-memory devices to verify hashes, an often overlooked but very important part of 'Proof of Work'.

What's a side-channel attack?
A term quickly referred to but rarely understood by most; a 'side-channel' attack refers to an attacker being able to use data obtained indirectly from the machine performing the hashing, to weaken or defeat the actual protection provided by the hashing in the first place.
Any hashing algorithm should not be susceptible to this; as i) multi-user operating system environments have become wide-spread since the 1980's and ii) we should expect the attacker to be able to be on the same system (albeit without the same level of privilege) and gain no advantage over the protection the hashing algorithm offers.

Argon2 vs Balloon
This is the most often quoted comparison; however, it is not safe/fair to compare the two algorithms, at least in a 'Proof of Work' paradigm.
Most algorithms, including all variations of Argon2 (Argon2d/i/id), converted in this sense pass the block header as the 'password' and the 'salt', to the hashing algorithm; which isn't quite the ideal usage scenario in the minds of the algorithm authors, however, it is safer than having a static 'salt'.
In a purely 'password hashing' arena; it should be noted several fairly serious attack methods have been identified and trialed against Argon2, some of these same attacks were still resistant against Balloon Hashing. Additionally, the password-hashing competition doesn't define cryptographic/hashing standards, it serves as a platform to bring the concept out in the open.
Argon2 is still a worthy candidate against Balloon, shoulder to shoulder. Unfortunately, some of the best discussion/debate is no longer available (http://gmane.org/details.php?group=gmane.comp.security.phc) due to abuse/being pulled offline.

Intriguing Benson, tell me more
The original password hashing algorithm was developed by Dan Boneh, Henry Corrigan-Gibbs and Stuart Schechter (https://crypto.stanford.edu/balloon/) and was submitted to the 'Password Hashing Competition' (https://password-hashing.net/).
The password hashing algorithm was later modified for PoW use last year and gradually refined since; the latest iteration being very small (2 files only requiring openssl lib/headers) and quite easy to implement; whilst remaining easy to introduce different length inputs, memory and mixing parameters.
Another version is currently being written/tested (identical parameters, so will be 100% compatible) that removes the current version's reliance on the openssl library; while not being expected to be any quicker, it will then become 100% platform-independent/portable.

deft specifications
PoW algorithm           Stanford balloon implementation (128kb per thread/4 mixing rounds of AES)
Coin ticker             DEFT
Coin codebase           Litecoin 0.15.1
Retarget code           Dual_KGW3 (with 3hr timeout)
Retarget strategy       Per block
Block time              4 minutes
Block maturity          30 blocks
Block subsidy           8.5 DEFT per block
Emission strategy       Starting off near zero, gradually increasing until 8.5 is reached by block 5000 (preventing instamining).
Emission decay          Block reward halves every 150,000 blocks
Emission simulation     Included in src folder as deftreward.c (gcc deftreward.c -o deftreward)
Coin marketcap          Maximum of 2.8 million DEFT (lifetime)
Coin premine            250,000 DEFT = 100.000 DEV, 75.000 Co-Founder, 75.000 DEFT set aside for bounties, marketing and competitions)


Reward Schedule
2                       0.0034 DEFT
1471                    2.5 DEFT
2941                    5. DEFT
5000                    8.5 DEFT
152500                  4.25 DEFT
302500                  2.125 DEFT
452500                  1.0625 DEFT
602500                  0.53125 DEFT
752500                  0.265625 DEFT
902500                  0.1328125 DEFT
1052500                 0.06640625 DEFT

Links/further reading
Github                  http://github.com/deftchain/deft (http://github.com/deftchain/deft)
Win/MacWallet           https://github.com/deftchain/deft/releases (https://github.com/deftchain/deft/releases)
Miner                   https://github.com/deftchain/cpuminer-balloon (https://github.com/deftchain/cpuminer-balloon)
Pool module             https://github.com/deftchain/balloon_hash.git (https://github.com/deftchain/balloon_hash.git)
Pool Statistics         https://deft.leafpool.com/ (https://deft.leafpool.com/)
Discord                 https://discord.gg/M2RwYXB (https://discord.gg/M2RwYXB)
Block Explorer          https://deft.ccore.online/ (https://deft.ccore.online/)
Website                     https://devsheaven.com/deft/ (https://devsheaven.com/deft)
Balloon webpage         https://crypto.stanford.edu/balloon (https://crypto.stanford.edu/balloon)
Orig balloon code       https://github.com/henrycg/balloon (https://github.com/henrycg/balloon)
Balloon Whitepaper      https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/027.pdf (https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/027.pdf)
Twitter                 https://twitter.com/DeftChain (https://twitter.com/DeftChain)
Telegram                https://t.me/deft_chain (https://t.me/deft_chain)
Reddit                  https://www.reddit.com/r/DEFT (https://www.reddit.com/r/DEFT)

Exchanges
Crex24 - Disabled       https://crex24.com/exchange/DEFT-BTC (https://crex24.com/exchange/DEFT-BTC)
qtrade.io - Enabled     https://qtrade.io/market/DEFT_BTC (https://qtrade.io/market/DEFT_BTC)

Pool: Leafpool
https://deft.leafpool.com/ (https://deft.leafpool.com/)
cpuminer.exe -a balloon -o stratum+tcp://mine-deft.leafpool.com:6611 -u YOUR_DEFT_ADDRESS_HERE -p x -q


Translations, signature campaigns
Please note that while we will offer bounties/competitions in the future, we will not ask/request for translations, signature campaigns as we feel these sorts of thing (while well-intentioned) are tacky/cheap. If you'd like to translate in a language we don't support; feel free to submit and we will include it (for free).
We have several ideas in mind for interesting and unique bounties; so stay tuned.

addnode=172.31.40.27
addnode=173.254.207.158
addnode=88.198.100.225
addnode=206.189.154.133
addnode=209.97.172.77

stupid pool  ;D ;D ;D !!!

Hm, have problem with compiling on ubuntu 16.04:


Can dev to fix this? Please.

this was brought to my attention shortly before ANN (https://github.com/deftchain/deft/issues/1).

can you do a git pull and recompile again? issue should be resolved, apologies..

Reserved

https://twitter.com/DeftChain/status/1002581213733941248

brilliant!!!!

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-53887-6_8 (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-53887-6_8)
some infos to balloon hashing

Yes, it successful compiled now. Thanks, mate!

seems that this is another good project to watch for. not for those bounty hunters out there. lol

Pool really sucks, we don't have any information about what we are mining !

Consider creating a moderated thread, there's too many trash spammers services out here.

setgenerate works decently or prefer the cpuminer..?

for solo cpuminer to wallet RPC.. setgenerate is disabled

unfortunately setgenerate was removed early on (in 0.13 i think), i did briefly visit this but decided that external cpuminer/getblocktemplate or stratum would be the way to go.

If you go to the '%AppData%\Roaming\Deft' folder and create Deft.conf with the following:

Then save, launch Deft wallet.. you should be able to solo-mine by changing your launch.cmd to read:

i will add a module later today which displays current earnings/balances.

I've been trying to learn about this project over and over, but still don't get a hint on what is this project really working for?
Is there any easier material that can be read to know about the project?

It's nice to see a new algorithm for the CPU. Unfortunately, there is very little information about the project. Can you show a road map?

Good luck with your project, it's always nice to see a new cpu coin.

Do you offer translation bounties ? If so I'd like to reserve french translation.

We are in ;)

#crysx

Look's good. So there is no CPU miner on Win?

### CWI PYROXENE (theMINE) - DEFT

Hi All ...

Pyroxene has been updated with two new pools - Deft being one of them.

Our pools require registration and registration only once for all the pools in this server.

To mine Deft we have two ports available - lodiff and hidiff.

lodiff (for Single-CPU and lower hashrate) - Port 2600
hidiff (for Multi-CPU and higher hashrate) - Port 6600

Connect via stratum for both lodiff and hidiff respectively using the following ...


The pool itself can be accessed via the Pyroxene link here - http://pyroxene.chainworksindustries.com/deft/

Barrystyle has done a great job with this coin, and being one of members of theTEAM, makes Deft a CWI-Partner coin. This means we will continue to support Deft in all of our infrastructure, including Pyroxene (theMINE).

Let us know if any issues arise, as we are improving the entire Pyroxene platform regularly.

NJOI mining.

#crysx

please read the first post for information relating to translation bounties.

please check first post..
there is one available at https://github.com/deftchain/cpuminer-balloon/releases

Looks pretty interesting,  I'll see how it will develop. All the same the competition is high and the market is not at its best.

I like CPU mining and good luck with your project. I will give it a try on mining it.

great project ，the decent dev will biring us to the moon soon!

Thanks so much!
I'm in.  ;)

cryptoinsider
https://twitter.com/uscryptoinsider/status/1002853450667954176 (https://twitter.com/uscryptoinsider/status/1002853450667954176)

How to limit cpu threads in cpu miner... Please advise. Want to set it to 2.

-t 2

Thanks buddy :)
Mining it on my laptop. So gonna use only 2 instead of 4 cores.

Do you plan to release the NOMP module or the source for the pool that has DEFT implemented since it is open source

The hash module is already there in git ...

https://github.com/deftchain/balloon_hash - all you have to do is compile the module into the OS. Though NOMP and Node based systems I am personally unsure of how to implement, as I can see almost all Python Hash Modules can be imported into almost all stratum implementations.

#crysx

interesting phrasing; but i'll let that one pass as i had already uploaded it a few hours previous (https://github.com/deftchain/multi-hashing-balloon).. enjoy  ;)

Somebody is mining with 56 KH/s. Is it really using CPU? I am curious somebody is using GPU rigs to mine this coin. Please enlight me...

balloon hashing is quite a unique and versatile hashing algorithm, not to mention being the first implementation of it; instead of the same algorithm being copy and pasted as we seem to find quite regularly these days. in addition to the firm yet forgiving dual_kgw3 retargeting algorithm, the coin itself has quite a small supply; which will take a small while to reach its full reward as to ensure a stable value without 'instaminers' disrupting the market.

the biggest point i'm trying to make here is the following.. i've been cryptoprogramming for 3-4 years now, yet in this time i havent released my own currency; the work has always been for others. now that i have some time to put the requisite effort into my own cryptocurrency, im able to do this without the pressure of deadlines and can simply enjoy the fruition of my work. in my mind this will translate directly into a usable coin that will retain value in times to come; not to mention being done for enjoyments sake, not profit.

a roadmap isn't out of the question - but not at the moment. things like an electrum wallet, mobile wallet are definitely going to happen in the future; lets see how the currency is received by the public first..

james

at the moment it is all cpu. i realise that to anyone skeptical, 56kh might look like a lot, but in reality it is either a set of physical/virtual servers working as a single user.

i have started working on an implementation for gpu, but this is more to offload the hashing algorithm so it doesnt bog down the user's machine, as it won't hold a great deal of advantage over cpu due to the way the hashing works.

i'm currently separating balloon from it's dependency on the openssl library (sha, evp and aes functions); i'm about 1/3 of the way through, once it is independent, i will attempt an opencl kernel. however this is all being communicated clearly and will be publically released, not a private or 'for sale' miner.

james

Nowadays what makes a coin important isn't what hashing algorithm it uses, but its purpose. Is there any purpose other than to show off a new algo?

Any Linux binaries available? I know with Argon2 coins, the Linux binaries often perform better than Windows.

### CWI PYROXENE (theMINE) - DEFT

Hi All ...

For the last two days, only a day after we opened the pool, we had an attacker send false shares and flood our pool, making almost impossible to mine at Pyroxene - Deft.

We have located the IP, which came from China, and since have locked the account and banned the IP.

We have decided that it is fair and NOT unjust to have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy placed on the pool due to it's small hashrate and the number of people mining there. So if this happens again, we will not notify, we will just block and contend with it as we see fit, including ANY and ALL of the funds that the attacker may accrue towards his/her account.

Pyroxene - DEFT is now open again for mining, and we are working on a number contingencies to mitigate such foul behaviour again.

We also would like to acknowledge that MOST of the miners and users are fair in use and mine with honest intentions, so if there are any questions, please ask and we will endeavour to ensure that we answer as promptly as possible.

Pyroxene (theMINE) main page is located here - http://pyroxene.chainworksindustries.com/
Pyroxene - DEFT is located here - http://pyroxene.chainworksindustries.com/deft/

Remember - the more miners, the more chance of solving blocks, and the more decentralized the mining becomes. As always, if there are any issues, please notify us via the Pyroxene Thread, here, or via the CWI-Slack.

Thanks,

#crysx

congratulations on your new project, looks very interesting :)

http://mining4.co.uk has added deftchain solo and pplnt pools! full api, per worker naming and stats, offline worker notifications by discord bot and much more , come join us

http://deft.mining4.co.uk/

http://deft-solo.mining4.co.uk/

https://discord.gg/5v5QT3W

Poo.Deft.Host is not showing how much I made .... Can this be fixed ?

http://pool.deft.host:81/

U can use this. Its is very basic, but it helps.

Please join Discord. We are currently working on a proper yiimp integration.

https://discord.gg/p8fyjAy (https://discord.gg/p8fyjAy)

-a balloon -o stratum+tcp://mine.icemining.ca:5100 -u <WALLET ADDRESS> -p c=DEFT

by connecting all CPUs You have on disposition to the same wallet address You can make great numbers
it depends only how many CPUs do You have ;-)

can anyone comment on what hashrate to expect from a i7 8700k (stock speeds) with the cpuminer-balloon ? mine seems a bit low @ ~600h/s. thanks!

Ofcourse you have dear
Just use the ctrl+f in your browser, add your wallet adress, and you will see what hashrate are you generating

great job. First Yiimp implementation for balloon hash,.

Started this up on a few machines on the official pool. Has anyone benchmarked on various CPUs? For reference, some of my hashrates are below.

i7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 threads): ~630h/s
i7 4790k 4.4Ghz (MacOSX // 8 threads): ~270h/s
i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 threads): ~145h/s
Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 threads): ~100h/s
Intel Core m5 1.2Ghz (MacOSX // 4 threads): ~90h/s

hi scorpio18,

please revert to commit ff6700b82918f718c8155bc9f06d9e1d28453613, yesterday's commit was a patch to force segwit signalling to help diagnose icemining but this resulted in a fork as you can see.

i'd inserted a shim between nomp and the daemon a few days ago (to observe the json 'chatter'), and it receives a 'default_witness_commitment' when it requests getblocktemplate - unsure why yiimp is having trouble in this regard.

james

we can trade only on discord? or?

cpu only with gpu miners? LOOOOOOL

7 8700k 4.7Ghz (Ubuntu 18.04 // 12 hilos): ~ 630H / s
4.4Ghz i7 4790k (MacOSX // 8 hilos): ~ 270h / s
i7 860 2.8Ghz (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 145H / s
Pentium G4440 (Windows 10 // 2 hilos): ~ 100 h / s
Intel Core 1.2Ghz M5 (MacOSX // 4 hilos): ~ 90h / s

dZ3fGxJr1zdh1Ceu2pKvUVKz8HJdcAZkKZ    0    0    99.8%    440.17 KH
dHpqKwtaQG8ZWnN4BABgT5CFrGmTpUyKFT    0    0    99.78%    268.53 KH
This is impossible with only CPU

Its scam. Avoid this "cpu" coin

We are not fools here, this is ONLY CPU COIN, now thread are edited, and there is no "only cpu"
So someone have gpu miner, and that is reason why hashrate is so high

It's an open source project on an open network.  Anybody is free to develop a GPU miner, and it is inevitable that people will.  In fact, it would be disappointing if nobody did (It's a sign of a coin progressing successfully).

Devs said it is only cpu coin. When all people saw that there is gpu miner, dev edited thread...so...you know what i want to say

It's likely that a GPU miner surfaced in the very recently, and the dev reacted accordingly.  I can attest first hand that the coin was CPU minable for several days.

CPU WITH 600KH in 1 wallet?? O yea 100000 ryzens...

Like Geekcash this coin probably has private gpu miner from the begining or someone has created it. The same 3-6 miners with hundreds cpu hashrate

We are a small team. And this. accusation is pointless because such a coin wouldnt survive one day in cryptospace. We dont mine our coin, why should we. We have specific premine for expenses and dev.


If a GPU miner has significant  more advantage over CPU, we would be the one who posting it here first.

It happens with a lot of coins that start as CPU mining only but then either someone from the dev team comes up with a GPU miner and keeps it secret or someone not part of the dev team starts selling the GPU miner, I don't want to throw any accusations around but yea there's definitely something suspicious going on with the network hashrate.

I am currently VPS mining with 31 servers at 8KHS - CPU only i would love to throw my rigs on it.

Here is my addy  - dWagFCEh81mRi2kMppU3NKsDt815Cnn9b2

Watch it increase above 8khs with VPS cpu only - work smarter not harder.

If GPU mining was out trust me we would be smashing it, if you knew who was in our groups  ;)

Our ambitions are different. If GPU miners appears, we will try to make general available.

Well yeah I guess you're right it could be a bunch of botnets and servers, a GPU would probably bring difficulty up 10 times more.

GPU ...

GPUMining Apps CAN and WILL be created for this algo. No question.

We know, as we do.

What you are all failing to see here is that BalloonHash is a very memory hard hashfunction, and is designed to lag the GPU in a way that it's performance may be better than a CPU, but not to the extents that most of you talk about.

Eg - For arguments sake (not so much hashrates but figures for the sake of the example), if a CPU does 7 and a GPU does 9 - you are admittedly gaining, as that is plain to see. The GPU itself is in front, but by how much?

Unlike a great many CPU algorithms that have come before BalloonHash, the optimization of the Algo is difficult enough, let alone the raw hash power of the GPU. Many of you are sounding like the CPU can 7 and the GPU can do 7000. With this Algo, almost impossible on that sort of scale, unless you have a farm of CPU/GPU hashers, and the amalgamation of such hardware could bring you that sort of magnitude of hashrate.

Just porting it to GPU is highly unlikely knowing the contents of the hashfunction used.

#crysx

Some mining plant with hundreds of E5-2680V2 CPUs can reach this easily.

i've personally spoken with the person whose wallet this belongs to, as i was concerned about a gpu miner; as well as the load it was placing on the server (no longer an issue). this person owns 400 machines each with twin x2630 cpus (4800 cores total). i was somewhat taken back, as few people have this sort of hardware 'laying around' at their disposal.

i went as far as to checking their share traffic, and to my relief they were all within standard distribution of cpu share size; just lots of them - there is never going to be a solution which prevents a person with this much processing horsepower. he was pretty upfront about it, so it doesnt bother me at all. there are a few members with ryzen cpus which achieve several kh due to the ryzen's 20mb l3 cache. one hundred of these machines could easily achieve 400kh.

the best part? 4800 cores and only 600kh? i think some people seriously need a reality check ::)

regarding the possibility of a gpu miner? entirely possible.
any algorithm devised could have a gpu miner written for it; the actual part that matters is the efficiency, if the miner is only 25h/s faster than a cpu, is it even a concern?
you know there are publically available GPU miners for argon2? do you realise that they arent even twice as fast as a cpu?
they are opencl concepts written for that exact purpose, a concept. feel free to checkout arionum's gpu miner (https://bitbucket.org/guli13/arionum-gpu-miner); to find that it is not popular at all.

i've openly stated that i will attempt my own gpu miner; not in the quest for more speed, but to offset the load placed on the cpu (several members have mentioned their machines being too sluggish to use). i've also stated that once a working one is complete, it will be a public release for all.

i'm not going to remove any posts regarding gpu miner accusations; i've even screenshotted them for later embarrassment as i know the posters will likely retract later. thats crypto for you ;)

james

I see that on my pool https://beastpool.com/ some ppl use official miner
don't forget to add -f65536 to params
BUT IT'S JUST FOR OFFICIAL MINER


If you are using beastpool miner you don't need that param
Saying this just to clarify.
Happy mining  :)

Thank you very much for the clarification. Very well written.

Interesting concept, I hope this project will be successful in the future, because the project is very helpful and everyone is easy to use it, because DEFT does not make the weight of PC

Sounds like a very interesting project  I'll be definitely keeping an eye on it!

I updated https://beastpool.com already.

You can now mine on my pool with official miner without any additional params. :)

And I set up 0% fee :)

Hope you like that change.
Happy mining.

Can someone help me with a problem I have with the windows miner? I have it set up to run, but it keeps saying stratum_recv_line failed and shares keep getting rejected because of low difficulty. Anyone know why this is? I have the bat files setup as follows: cpuminer-sse2.exe -a balloon -o stratum+tcp://deft.mining4.co.uk:3338 -u (my wallet).user1 -p x -q. Any help will be really appreciated.

300 ryzens 2700x would do this HR easily.. easily possible with a CPU farm..

I stopped mine and wait for gpu tool

Any news on
"i will add a module later today which displays current earnings/balances."
?

Dear fellow miners!

Please consider directing some of your hashing power to beastpool.com or icemining.ca

They are on 20 and 55 khash/s, respectively.

Let us spread the hashes around  8)

Very interesting to see a new algo coin..will be following the progress of the project.

Thanks a million!

the link above is not working, it is going to another market BTC/GEEK not BTC/DEFT
please check it

With which command can i start the cpu miner on ubuntu? ./minerd does not work

Yea, why not just Trade Ogre Dev and Mods? https://tradeogre.com/markets Very cheap fee for withdrawal and fast, and rapidly growing, and off course no fee for listing so far. Check it Out : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScolXS8WMCDG7j8dIAbmutrQR6BWD5BrOCcRKJLCFfgPTBwoQ/viewform

you need to download the custom miner for this algo.

Blockcruncher added DEFT recently and could really use some more miners. We found 1 block quickly, but are still looking for our second. We are a nice yiimp pool with a VERY low 0.25% fee. Come spread the hashrate out and help secure the network!

https://blockcruncher.com/

Currently 13 miners @ 2.9kh/s

Yes I have the Customer miner But I dont know the correct command to start it

Someone walked me through this on discord.
After building I did the following

1. (Command in terminal)nano mining.sh
2. in nano. edit the file to fit your pool, address, password and perhaps amount of threads. (cpuminer -a balloon -o statum+tcp://pool.deft.host:3333 -u "Your deft address" -p "your password" -t "number of miner threads"
3. save your changes by pressing Ctrl+O and then exit by pressing Ctrl+X
4. (Command in terminal)chmod +x mining.sh
5. ./mining.sh      should start the miner

Interesting coin. Will add our own pool soon :)

thanx man

Mined for almost 3 hours in the http://pool.deft.host/ pool but no rewards?

Minimum payout 0.25 Deft
You can check rewards over here.
http://pool.deft.host:81

ah check when my rewards are more then 0.25 i'm getting payed?

Yes...
Quote from pool website: "pays occur every ten minutes, for minimum of 0.25 DEFT"
:-)

i put you into ANN. Good Luck

New DEFT mining pool with clean and straightforward Pool Interface.

https://deft.leafpool.com/

https://deft.leafpool.com/static/deft.png

 1% Pool fee
 No registration required
 Pool running on a dedicated server
 Location: US Eastcoast (US Westcoast and EU will soon be added)
 Payout threshold: 0.1 DEFT
 PPLNT payout scheme
 Vardiff enabled: Pool will automatically adjust your diff based on your hashrate
 Supports Workername: Just use format

 

By the way you need a better logo  ;D You could probably start a bounty for a logo contest.

Come join the only CPU Mining Group on telegram and have your say about anything CPU!! 💪

https://t.me/CPUtalk   

you have no idea, what kind of logos we got beside this one.

I have mined a lot of different CPU coins lately. .. is there anything new about this one besides the algo and number of finite amount? I am getting burned out on them need motivation......

deft : balloon hashing is a memory-hard pow algorithm - future tasklist

https://mega.nz/#!KVFXQIKK!ht9rj3oy_b4jHCphQaNstR1LXoGuToF0NcXNw3-GmRs (https://mega.nz/#!KVFXQIKK!ht9rj3oy_b4jHCphQaNstR1LXoGuToF0NcXNw3-GmRs)

Can you post another discord link? the front page link is expired

https://discord.gg/yhE4YT (https://discord.gg/yhE4YT)

Where can i download a binary of the CPUMiner for windows?
I can't seem to build it due to compile errors.

1. on first page of  DEFT anno: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4396753.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4396753.0) , you can find:

https://i.imgur.com/vUbLXeq.jpg

2. it will redirect you to: https://github.com/deftchain/cpuminer-balloon (https://github.com/deftchain/cpuminer-balloon), then you need to click "releases":

https://i.imgur.com/7I2eCtX.jpg

3. and you can find what you looking for:

https://i.imgur.com/9p1SrJL.jpg


be aware for BeastPoll https://beastpool.com/ (https://beastpool.com/), you need to add -f65536 if you using official miner, so your command line should looks like :

cpuminer.exe -a balloon -o stratum+tcp://beastpool.com:6533 -u WALLET_ADDR -p c=DEFT -f65536

or if you use miner delivered by BeastPool - then line without -f65536 parameter

https://i.imgur.com/WxwJ1hh.jpg

Thanks for explaining it to many people as it will help me. Is there an estimate of the cost of mining this token and the profit for it? Or while it's too early to talk about this, and mining is more likely in terms of price growth?

Thanks, Mining now :)

In these mining pools, can any miner be used, that is, mining by the CPU, or video cards AMD e NVIDIA ?

This coin is a scam whereby the developer cannot even handle some criticism and scamming people around. Immatured and noob developer. Same goes to the scammy coin.

cool, I wrote the GPU miner for Balloon algo. Message me if you need the miner also you can donate some btc for my hardwork :)
it was hard to crack it.

Could you explain your claims in more detail?

Thanks Man, its working good. I have transferred the BTC to your address.

hello, you talked to me. I am not the developer, barry with 5 years of crypto programming is.

We banned you because you tried to promote several times a scam exchange named digitalfinex.

Thank you for the FUD and bumping our thread. But we will not do same favour to a junior member and dev of shitty geekcash.

For sure. Contact me in Discord. Cs

A large number of users appreciated this project and invite all new participants here, this is a good indicator, I think that due to active users who promote projects, this sphere will develop in the future!

open to all criticism matey  ::)

are you able to show any evidence, screenshot perhaps?
i'd love to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but this is crypto :)

nVidia based? ...

and linux (Fedora 27 x64) ...

We would be interested in working with you for a version for us if not.

#crysx

Ditto ...

What he (barrystyle) said ;)

#crysx

At first I was not going to respond to this obviously ridiculous post ...

BUT, I can't help but to back the people that we call members of our (CWI) theTEAM.

Not only are your accusations unfounded, but they are uncalled for and completely inappropriate when it comes to James.

- He is by far one the nicest guys I personally have met, in the order of 'up there with the best' level of nice.
- Intelligence to boot.
- A developer of ours and a team member that does more than his fair share of work and critical input.

Your false accusations about the coin, and James, are the thing of deletions that I personally would have no issue putting in the bin as soon as I see it. Had YOU been even 1/100th the talent that James is, and built/developed what he has in CWI with us, then MAYBE you would have the right to speak. Since you can not even correlate a decent sentence, and post, I would assume you are about as competent as a pigeon in a chicken coup. All show - no cluck.

Imbeciles like you are what make this CryptoIndustry one point in the negative. People like James are those that make the CryptoIndustry 70 points in the positive making it a MUCH better place.

You think James can't handle criticism? Then you haven't dealt with ME personally. I can assure you James can handle ANYTHING that you can throw at him, because if it is 1% of what I do as Team Lead of CWI, then you don't stand a chance against him in any sort of fight, Crypto based or Intellectual.

#crysx

Thanks Man for the interest, I am planning to upload the code in Github.
I know its difficult to get some BTC donnation from miners. I sent the GPU miner to 5 people but only 1 donated yesterday.
so I am planning to mine some 2000 deft and release the GPU code and repository to public, I will post the link here.
sorry if the chain difficulty increased because of me.    

Can you please join discord. And if you are first one who is able to show us a working gpu miner. 400 Deft is yours

lol, you shitty person, condemned the exchange as scam and now condemn geekcash too ? you are really a shit with your shit coin.

Dear miners and members of the community!
Russian translation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4489553.0
Welcome!

CUDA or OpenCL?
What hashrates do you get? (on which cards?)

Would be interesting to see if your gpuminer is faster or slower than my gpuminer ;)

me interested in an AMD gpu miner too

man you are unbelievable.. I have seen the exchange.. to quote a classic: "looks like a nigerian scam website"...

the only coin that is supposed to have any trading volume there is geekcash and it says 50000 sats...

you should better STFU in order to retain some dignity

LMAO before you condemn the exchange name, please check your bloody facts. Geek cash and litecoin X were traded at there. And the people using it find it good too. Only your stupid developer and shitty coin gets jealous of it and screw the reputation. So, why don't you STFU?

Hello DEV's. The business will be successful!
Cognitive design, very nice website!

Really good to see balloon in action. Waiting for the exchange listing.

Multi GPU miner forked from ccminer just add -a balloon

https://github.com/monkins1010/ccminer/releases/tag/v8.21baloon


Working on v2.

Anyone already tried this? I checked the repo and there is no commits for the balloon algo. So Ill wait first before trying this out.

I had trouble uploading the code.. So I just forked the cc miner so I could put the release on. I made 3 files balloon.h, ballooncore.cu & baloon.cu . And added in the algo to miner.cpp.

It's only using the memory of the gpus and a tiny bit of the gpus core. So don't expect the world. I tested it on a rig of 3 x 1060's. And as its v2 and v3 will be better once I've ported more code to the cuda cores.

Enjoy

Some people didn't realize that I released new optimized miner.
285h/s -> 414h/s on my i7-3770k cpu :)
Ryzen cpu's can reach more than 10kh/s


https://github.com/BeastPool/cpuminer-balloon/releases/tag/3.8.8.2-opt2

  join us on discord. the current hashrate achieve by  your miner is very low hopefully your new version can compete with the cpus to be profitable.

How to make new windows version miner work?? only close, no mine.  no CPUMINER.EXE?? in folder when download?? I confuse sorry

I hope that the project will perform all that has been target.
 Good luck all!

please join
Telegram               
https://t.me/deft_chain (https://t.me/deft_chain)

Looks like net hash rate went down for a while but now it's at a record high! I wonder if there's still no GPU miner around  ???

I don't believe there's a GPU miner yet

Small teaser: https://imgur.com/STWlo6g

Read back one page?

if you'd like to move over to pool.deft.host, even for a few minutes; i'm happy to analyse the shares and show whether they have/havent been produced by a gpu. if you are found to be truthful, im happy to endorse your gpu miner.


this source code contains no changes from standard ccminer.


shh petal

I was mining this coin with my PC. But its useless to mine this coin as its now GPU minable coin.
I am not mining this coin.. bye bye MR. deft.

Community never wanted the GPU miners, but dev team wants to show off their coding skills.

As of now there seems to be a gpu miner developed not long ago but it can still compete with new ryzen CPUs so it's not that big of a deal. 

Tell me how many h / s should the graphics cards be issued?

gtx 960 not work this miner.
60 h / s produces - and then from one processor core

Im try this, ~65 h/s on msi GTX 960 4 gb. GPU not loaded, 1 processor core have 100% load

the only credible gpu miner at the moment is still in testing by @Bel (a discord member).
happy to admit fault in any other case, a little evidence perhaps?

james

1060 6gb -- 46 h/s :/

Can anyone verify this as legit? Seems a little too good to be true for a Ryzen user like myself.

https://crex24.com/de/exchange/DEFT-BTC

Wooohoooo ! Thanks for getting this one listed. Now easy to track it's value on Block folio :)

It is legit but it depends on what ryzen model you have, looking at the difficulty I guess it's now safe to say that cpu mining period for deft is officially over.

We are waiting for the GPU miner !!!!!!

RYZEN 2700X @4,3 gives ~6000H/s @stock(4.0) 5200H/s as per my experience..

Thought I'd throw the miner on an old laptop to see what it gets. 0.15 KH/s on an i5-6200U, Perhaps I've missed some configuration setting or something. Very cool project regardless of my crap spare CPU though.  ;D

About $ 3 a month. I don't even know what this money will be enough for. Despite some increased interest in CPU mining, it is now possible to say that the time of mining on the CPU is over. And for this coin, and for all others. Very soon, the same can be said about the GPU. I'm not very good at algorithms, what's the advantage of Balioon over Yescrypt R16?

Difficulty has doubled in just a day after the GPU miner has been released.

Yeah I hear what you're saying, the machine is just sat there though and the electric is free. Feels like a waste to just leave it get dusty.  Though I will say, I thought that when I tried to mine bitcoin with an old 6600GT many moons ago. I wish id let that burn it's self out mining what was a miniscule amount at the time.  :-\

Difficulty has gone up 10 fold in about a day or two, does anyone know if the gpu miner is being sold by someone or if there's a github where I download it from?

Bel is working on a beta GPU miner in the Discord server (check pins in #mining). It's still a bit buggy, but ask in the channel and we'll help you set it up.

- brianmct

Is there any amd miner in development? I am interested to beta testing if sone dev wants

There are no bounties for translations.

You're not the only one in this thread, that doesn't understand what is this project made for... something about algorithms and password history i guess)

I'm not sure what you mean exactly, maybe it's lacking a roadmap but at least it's not just some ICO token for pump and dump only.

GPU minable?
 ;D

this.
thank you :)
some people are really getting hung up on this aspect; i stopped reading whitepapers years ago after realizing less than 5% of coins actually follow through with their promises.

CuBalloon now released with source: https://github.com/Belgarion/cuballoon/releases/tag/1.0.0

so far im more and more impressed by deft! keep up the good work.. btw OPENCL miner would be great, we AMD guys are kinda missing out now..:)

wow its another cpu mining coin, this project is amazing and the dev is great with this concept of this coin and new algo with balloon. i think will try to dig some deft.

3%? ...

Bit rich for the dev fee considering that it is a ccminer clone and balloon addition.

Is there ANY reason why we would trial this out from a newbie like yourself and a code that seems to be a modified ccminer clone?

Let me know, and we will possibly have a look at it. Otherwise, there will be no way we would risk this in our mining systems, even though we have been looking at an opensource CUDA miner.

#crysx

What exactly do you risk? You can always look/change the source, even remove the fee...
Thanks for the miner, Belg

The code is NOT a fork ...

It is an upload from HIS/HER system, so it 'looks' like a ccminer copy, but to go through ALL the changes that MAY have been issues in the code would take precious time we do not have.

Had it been forked and changed, the changes are easy to see and we could associate the code with solid evidence that any malicious code has NOT been introduced. This however is a different story, so when you compile/run this code, the risk is VERY real that malicious code is present.

THAT is the risk. Somehow I do not think you value the coins you own/have as much as we value the honesty and integrity of the developers we work with. This code has just appeared and unless our dev (barrystyle) condones this code, we will NOT risk running it in our systems until James gives the all clear.

If this is a clear and open codebase, and the dev contacts us direct, then we will utilize it and have no issue with the dev fee. I personally still think 3% is rich, but as it stands, there is no assurance that this code is clean as is. I am happy to be proven wrong as this will affect the whole community and the community can benefit from this miner, if it indeed is clean.

Now do you understand?

#crysx

complaining about dev fees and sporting a link to cryptopia in his sig  ::)

funniest thing i've seen all day. feel free to not mine Deft, if you are so offended paying a small fee to a decent developer.

Since WHEN is a newbie a 'decent' developer? ...

IF a developer at all?

What KIND of imbeciles are you?

Time will tell if you all lose your coins from malicious code, OR that (hopefully) this is a valued member of the community and there is value in what he is providing.

As for promoting Cryptopia - you REALLY need to see doctor regarding what is actually being promoted here and what we have as a direct link to our stock coin. Sheesh!

#crysx

Hello team.
I've reviewed all the details of your idea and all is truly very good!

Nice times with the coin, now time to say goodbye with the GPU miner.

You don't have to trust the code if you don't want to.
It's healthy to be a bit skeptical about unknown binaries on the internet.
The source is available, and is based on cpuminer, if you want to verify it yourself.
One of the reasons for creating this miner was for me to learn more about CUDA.

aaand THIS is the respectful answer I was hoping to receive ...

The other has been reported - and hopefully deleted soon.

If this is what you will be doing, then we may be able to work with you, alongside you, or even just as a consultative means of bouncing your learning curve against us. We have been around for a long time and have worked with the best CUDA devs in the CryptoIndustry, so a clean codebase AND proof of this is all I was suggesting. Apart from a hefty 3% margin for you. Though as stated above that imbeciles post, we would be more than happy to test and run as long as our dev approves of it.

#crysx

...if you do not appreciate personal abuse, you should not instigate it.

https://i.imgur.com/JBhkSXB.png

Imbecile and the word you used are two completely different things ...

You name called and abused, I name called and described. The post you responded with is nothing short of abuse, with almost nothing respectful or critical.

Imbecile/Cuxt ... there is a stark difference to those words and you should know better if you are as educated as you make yourself out to be. Yes I instigated the descriptive nature of the post, but I DID NOT abuse you in the description of what I thought you were/are.

Know the difference the next time you abuse someone - especially when criticism and clarification was all I was posting.

Now - if we can get some clarity on the code, that would be fantastic.

#crysx

chrys,

belg has been very open and communicative about the work he has done, providing beta compiles for people to try; receiving a very warm response in doing so - and has been kind enough to then open source the code. i'd actually forked that to the deftchain repo (https://github.com/deftchain/cuballoon) whilst leaving the fee in place, as anyone is free to remove it if they deem necessary; additionally i have some improvements i'm about to push to the repo (in the realm of 2x hashrate) which are free for all to try.

please check things out with me first; as you mightnt have been aware of the nice deeds of individuals on the discord.

james

James ...

I messaged you in our CWI-Development AND CWI-Discussion groups prior to even looking at this thread.

Thanks for the clarification though, as even though I am skeptical (as you know) of any code that just appears, it was YOUR approval with this that is always deemed necessary for the use of such code in the CWI systems and theFARM. so when a response is asked, it usually is given, and as seen in previous posts, is given pretty much forcefully even by the ones that know little about what is going on what has been happening. Thankfully, the dev AND you have come out answer all my questions. Next time, it would be a good thing to let em know in the CWI groups when such things are done BEFORE I have had the time to read up on the threads here.

You are good man James ... Lets start testing the code then on the miners ;)

... and thanks also belg!

Thanks again!

#crysx

will there be a windows miner

CuBalloon is for both Linux and Windows. (CUDA miner so NVIDIA GPUs).

Who can be part of this project?

Anyone, if you like the project you can join .

who are these bot kind of msgs, to keep the hype up ?  I saw 3-4 such messages above also , totally artificial msgs to make good impression

This is a very nice business with opportunity. A rather interesting website, assured design, classy design.

Only thing I can think of is to keep the thread on the first page and get more exposure but they sound more like they're cheerleading for an upcoming ICO or something lol.

It looks promising. I think a good future is waiting for this project. and wish you to success .................

on the github link from the first page there is only the linux miner or am I wrong?
I am still using the first version of CPU miner, but is unstable, is there a new CPU windows version that I can download?

What will be purpose of this coin?
It definitely looks interesting, but for example Pigeon also did look interesting and now it seems to me that it's pointless coin without any future.  :'(

The cpu mining days are way behind sir  ::) and the gpu miner that is out right now is only for nvidia cards.

ok, that explains all the errors I am generating while trying to mine deft

now all i can do is wait for a new cpu only coin....

yes

https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/deft-DEFT (https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/deft-DEFT)

I use CuBalloon 1.0.2, but my rig dont work. I have 8x1060 3Gb. Thats my bat file -
cuballoon -o stratum+tcp://balloon.mine.zergpool.com:5100 -u 1Mbuds1QxGD2JcQejdScAF8Gf4NvuQjYP4 -p c=BTC --cuda_devices 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 --cuda_threads 64,64,64,64,64,64,64,64 --cuda_blocks 48,48,48,48,48,48,48,48 --cuda_sync 0 -t 0
pause
Can anybody help me?

i got a problem with my 1080ti rig only 3 cards will work (total 33gb memory), but it works with my other rig - 5 1060 3gb and 2 1070 8gb, (total 31gb memory) maybe there is an max total memory size/ max cards supported for this miner.

Try with 7 of your cards and see if it will work.

I`m a noobie here, but hope some experts can tell us how to set it up properly.

Best of regards

Looks like price dumped big time but difficulty has not changed much, it's better to buy DEFT directly rather than mining it at this point.

waiting to see what new tech this coin can offer...
lots of miners jumped in on a 'new algo' but from what i see, there is not much else.
I am sure the developers are quite adept at what they do but some sort of encouragement to keep mining would be nice to see, from them.

Why would anyone buy or mine this coin? I asked few days ago which is purpose of this coin and no one seem to know the answer?
It seems it is just another coin in the sea of new coins, without purpose (trying to be "new Bitcoin"... LOL).

"Sea of coins" .. we didn't want to dive too deep in this swamp of coins and define some groundbreaking purposes or roadmaps. Maybe in 3-4 months.

Has nicehash showed any interest in adopting this algorithm?

Exactly like all new coins. Nothing. I was afraid of that. Like Tron, but PoW and without Justin Sun.  :)
Well, I will dump @14k sat on Crex24. Too bad I wasted half day to setup rigs for best performance on Cuballoon.

Improvement is always ongoing ...

No matter whether the theory has been delivered or not, there is always room for improvement, and as such, we can all look forward to seeing the future with a brighter vision. The first implementation is always the best to test and break (as has been seen with the GPU implementation), which is why the second and third implementations are usually the ones to watch closely.

Good times ahead I think, especially with the evolution of Crypto in the wake of all the scams, rip-offs and hacks that seem to be the staple of Crypto today.

#crysx

This is a good sign ...

It means that all that you originally started to do, was NOT a waste, but a learning experience, whatever that learning experience may be. When you have been in Crypto for as long as I have, you see many things, many which have little or no future. IF at the beginning you drop all call, and later realize you should have kept, what then? It is ALWAYS a risk that when you get into mining/trading a new project like this. The risk is lessened greatly by the person or team behind the project, especially when they are as solid as @barrystyle is.

Of course, your decision is ultimately yours, as mine is, and we will do what we each deem to be the best for ourselves in the end. So sell if you will, just don't regret later if the project does grow to be something more than you think it is now.

#crysx

AMD miner? ???

Expect a lot of investor maintenance your plan when Token Sales will start!

Has Deft been abandoned yet? there's almost no buy support left on the exchange and some insane dumps happening  ::)

Mr Legendary, how so. No, nothing is abandoned. We are full steam working on changes. Deft is different.

But Deft cant change crypto economics. If you can mine a coin for 25 Cent you can sell it with some good margin.

You better join our Discord.

That's good to know, are you part of the dev team? I can't really mine it right now since I don't have any Nvidia cards and price seriously took a dive but I hope this is not the end.

What happen to the current prices? From ATH 70K to just 1K?

I cant believe my eyes...

Mumbo Jimbo Dumping...  :o

Seems pretty much dead.

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Seems like it, otherwise there would've been some sort of buy support or buying action but people don't even want to buy it a this price because it's too risky.

Maybe just some patience is needed.

I've been trying to learn about this project over and over, but still don't get a hint on what is this project really working for?

@Prodavan , I asked same question twice on last 2 pages, but no real answer.

maybe current price reflect something about this project...

a nice new algo but lack of usecase ???

i am part of the Team. BarryStyle is the Dev.

We dont want put any artificial usecases in place. Deft chain is in a very early stage. If you read the whitepaper you will get a hint how a chain like deft could be utilized.

At least it's nice to see that the dev team is still around even though the price is in the gutter and it looks like the pre-mine hasn't been dumped yet.

might as well mine some while nethash is low

This is great news and I really hope CPU mining comes back, it's too bad the coin got dumped to hell but it will recover eventually.

I added a few days ago the DEFT to my homemade calculator and is able to provide you with some interesting statistics and graph about this coin.
https://shittomine.com/calculator/coin/DEFT/

i wished you took better domainname. but hell yea ty.

Please guys whats your average hashrate for this algorithm on nVidia GPU (GTX1070)? Thanks a lot

I used to get around 5500 H/s with mine using a version for Bel's miner but I don't know if any new optimized versions have been released since then that may give better performance.

Thanks a lot - but still think thats quite low hashrate... Looking here in calculator https://shittomine.com/calculator/coin/DEFT/ and trying to calculate earnings per day using your numbers. Getting really low profit form this. I have 18 GTX 1070 at my conf.

That's because price went down around 800% and it has not recovered because of uncertainty, dip in price also could've been because of FPGAs.

good idea, interesting algo and features, but 9% of premine is a bit high nowdays, especially it's not a long-term rewards like founders reward in zec.

What are you talking about? are you delusional? I don't think you realize that this is now just another abandoned crypto project added to the list of dead coins.

If you take a look back at my posts I started mining this coin almost since it started when it was CPU only and I made the terrible decision of holding my coins and I'm still holding them.

How does the fact that you forgot to dump make this a dead project?

I can't really say it is dead for certain and I really hope it's not, but if you take a look at the github last commit was June 23rd.

can any one provide me mining tutorial for this coin ?? i have been trying mining this coin but no luck... i am using nvidia cards... can any on help me , that would be greatful for me.... thank you

Join Discord group and look under "mining".

i have asked about mining tutorial in discord tooo... but no luck... i downloaded miner... please help me with batch file creation....

Download Cubaloon 1.0.2 and then create "bat" file like this:

cuballoon -o stratum+tcp://deft-eu.leafpool.com:6633 -u dHtpGmSBnp1UeThMWZYj56ZAQ1DJntTRUN --cuda_threads 448,448,448,336,336,336 --cuda_blocks 64,64,64,48,48,48 --cuda_sync 0 -t 0

Ofcourse, after -u you should type your deposit address and you would probably have to play with --cuda_threads and --cuda_blocks numbers. In this example I have 3x1080ti and 3x1070ti, so first 3 numbers are for 1080ti's, and last 3 for 1070ti's. If you have 1070 or 1060, try smaller numbers. For example ---cuda_threads 224 and blocks 32. When you get them to work several hours without problem, you can try with larger numbers. Those numbers should be 32, 48, 64...

Hi, I'm using this script at the top here and getting the result described below.  Any advice, please?  I'm mining on a computer with a single Titan V and I just want to mine from the GPU. Thank you.


C:\Users\TitanV_Miner\Dropbox\BILLETEROS WIN\DEFT\CuBalloon 1.0.2 Windows>cuballoon -o stratum+tcp://mine.icemining.ca:5102 -u dbkJzyqJpVj8kNto7FHtGpHWk7fhKYGMzj --cuda_threads 448 --cuda_blocks 64 --cuda_sync 0 -t 0 -p c=DEFT

 
** cuballoon                 / belgarion  **
** based on cpuminer-balloon / barrystyle **

Device Number: 0
  Device name: TITAN V
  Memory Clock Rate (KHz): 850000
  Memory Bus Width (bits): 3072
  Peak Memory Bandwidth (GB/s): 652.800000

Enabled cuda devices: 0
Number of enabled cuda devices: 1
Using: 0 CPU Threads and 1 GPU Threads
thread id: 0, gpuid: 0, cuda threads: 448, cuda blocks: 64
[2018-07-27 11:10:33] 1 miner threads started, using 'balloon' algorithm.
[2018-07-27 11:10:33] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://mine.icemining.ca:5102
[2018-07-27 11:10:34] net diff: 0.136332 -> shift 29, bits 000755bf
[2018-07-27 11:10:34] Stratum difficulty set to 0.00004096
Initiated GPU 0
[2018-07-27 11:11:23] net diff: 0.136332 -> shift 29, bits 000755bf
[2018-07-27 11:11:54]CU API bind to port 4048 failed (No error) - API will not be availableD
A err[2018-07-27 11:12:26]or at  net diff: 0.136332 -> shift 29, bits 000755bfballoon/bal
loon-cuda.cu:217 code=2(cudaErrorMemoryAllocation) "cudaPeekAtLastError()"

Try adjusting the settings for cuda threads and cuda blocks or just remove them and see how that goes, the Readme file has some instructions under "Tuning".

This is an academic project and the researchers are coming back from summer work starting next week.  Hopefully it'll signal a restart of work (and Github commits).  This is a very low-emission coin, it won't take much for the value to go back up.

I really hope the devs come back strong from a nice summer vacation.   I kinda like this one.

Me too. I really like emmision (only 2.8 million total supply), but I don't like that 250k premine.

Yes, premine is way too high.  Like a big sword hanging over your head.  They should airdrop it, burn it, or do something productive with it. 

I also need a mining tutorial for this coin it's a lot different than existing algos, the new algo seem very interesting, hope it can resist the machines produced by Bitman.

Eventhough it's a new algo, the GPU miner is based on ccminer so the instructions and settings are pretty much the same.

you can also mine DEFT with the new t-rex miner 0.6.3

That one is really good, it's a shame there's no miner that supports AMD cards yet though since I have a few of them.

I find that the reward structure is balanced. There's a use case, which is pretty rare. I am waiting to hear more about the team. I started mining it from the beginning. They started the bounty campaign and I think if they can create a community, it could be a success.

I started mining it from the beginning also when it was CPU only, the price dumped hard just a few days after it got listed on the exchange and now it seems like a good time to buy.

What is going on with Deft? Exchange does not allow withdraw crex24. I have not a lot of ~ 800 in the account. But I honestly earned them on a video card. What to do with them now? Sell or leave as a keepsake?

Twitter News:

Guys, don't buy $DEFT on @Crex24 rn. The situation is extremely complicated. Dyor in DEFT support. If you buy here chances are very good you will lose the coins you bought. I really would like to see @Crex_24 and @DeftChain find a solution soon.

Discord News:

@everyone Despite all efforts, some traders are abusing all attempts to reconcile this issue in Crex24. Even paying 0.12 BTC out of my pocket to the traders who bought mostly for less then 15 Sat didnt help. Therefore i am making a final call how we will solve this issue for most of you guys. For the big upcoming swap comes, timeline will be set by @barrystyle , we will do this outside of Crex24. All Balances within Crex24 will be not swapped. The new Deft will be a new tradepair in Crex24. I will set up a google doc, where anybody can claim his Deft by Crex24 eMail. Screenshots ( a lot of them). Any buys after 3. October will be ignored. Anybody who is trying to outplay me will be ignored. Anybody who is trying to fake it will be ignored. We will try to save 80 percent of the flock.  So please comply. For anybody who comes up with unrealistic balance even with screenshot, i would need a Login/Password or a Teamviewer session. Anybody who bought after 5. October , with real deft balance before. Your real deft is gone if you hold 1 fake Deft.

...and if you have anything to say against proposition, they will ban you from their channel (like me).  ::)

04.10.2018 17:41:00 the last time of my activity. And how now to find out if I have a bad Deft or not? Well, time will tell. Here write too info. Google auto translator does not work in the discord.

For someone who is not on discord it may be hard to understand what is going one.
If you don't want second hand information than join discord

While you wait for informations to came to you everything is already on discord -> https://discordapp.com/invite/jAFtnfz
Forum is slow media compared to chat and you can't expect someone from community delivering you information here just because you find it convenient.
Most people who mine/trade some coin should check info on what they mine/trade on more sources, and source with most people, most informations and fastest one is discord.

You can trade deft on https://qtrade.io/market/DEFT_BTC for even larger price than before attack.

The dev of this project is scamming people out of their money by claiming fake coins were added to the Crex24 exchange, then offering to buy them back at a loss. I have seen several screenshots ranging from him being rude to people, to flat out refusing to pay them back at all.

The fact remains, this is HIS project, therefore he should be held accountable for coins being traded on an exchange registered in his name.

If he continues to refuse to pay back the people who bought coins from Crex24, I will expose him for the arrogant fraud he actually is.
No potential investors, partners or exchanges will come anywhere near him or his project in the future.

Anyone who has screenshots of their conversations with this man should contact me at mjak08s1@gmail.com or private message me here.

You have been warned.

The deft chain was hacked on 3. October (CVE-2018-17144) . About 350.000 additional coins have been transferred to CREX and sold for  900 Dollar something.

After discussion with the Exchange, we decided to replace this lost money with our own funds and put a buy order of the missing DEFT. Even most fake DEFT have been bought lower 20 SAT. We offered 30 SAT. Some honest members did sold fake deft back to us (100.000) . We warned others not to buy.

After a certain time. CREX24 and we decide to halt the trading. We asked our community to prove the balances of DEFT via Google Doc.

We try to save many people as possible. DEFT is not owned by anybody, it is started by a DEV and it is a 100% community coin.

Right now we are working on next level of DEFT. Meanwhile please fill this following doc, in order to retain your DEFT coins. Only coins before 3. October are valid, all other got the chance to sell it.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1up_FXRoQUnHGORtclVOD8zC9p5Eie9HwSmqtLjllSw8/edit#responses (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1up_FXRoQUnHGORtclVOD8zC9p5Eie9HwSmqtLjllSw8/edit#responses)

No sync after October 3rd.
I got coins in the summer, I don’t have to do anything, are they safe?

Here is a copy from discord with steps to sync again (it helped me):

Hello @everyone, (Reminder)
To get back onto the right chain; you will need to download a patched version of the wallet (available here https://github.com/deftchain/deft/releases/download/0.15.1/deft-qt.zip).
@gj has also compiled the patched version for Apple https://minkiz.co/noodlings/dft/Deft-Qt.dmg
Once you have it, create a shortcut to the file and add -reindex to the launch target (as shown).
Then - launch the wallet using the shortcut, and leave it run.
Its a good idea to remove -reindex from the shortcut immediately afterwards; as this is a fairly slow process and having to go through it more than once (by forgetting and leaving it there) would be fairly painful.
James xx

This "system" for resolving issue is a joke. Really.  ::)

check on discord
https://discordapp.com/invite/jAFtnfz

I wrote an update here a few weeks ago--
https://www.reddit.com/r/DEFT/comments/9okxqx/coin_update/

thanks for REDDIT; i will put it into ANN

Is it planned to add on new exchanges and in general, what further development?

Any idea why the wallet won't sync,
I just installed it like I use to with any wallet, but it won"t sync to get all the blocs.

Cheers

It start syncing byt it is very very very slow, Any node address to add ?

Try those

addnode=173.254.207.158:12651
addnode=88.198.100.225:12667
addnode=deft.mining4.co.uk:12667
addnode=206.189.154.133:12667
addnode=209.97.172.77:12667

List of DEFT mining pools with live stats & hashrate distribution

https://miningpoolstats.stream/deft

we have start refunding our fellow deft owner who have been affected by the coin hack.

new

 172.31.40.27 NODE

another pet project of an undergrad student

Deft has been added to Hashpool.eu
More info at: https://hashpool.eu/


Join discord for support!
https://discord.gg/KwKR2uT

Any news?

I once mined this coin, it seemed promising.
The project was pretty good.
What made the developers leave the project?

Coin was 51% attacked and never recovered.

Can you give us a little more detail? Where it was mentioned, when it happened, all the details of what happened, they did not write about it here.
Many coins are attacked like this and recover successfully.

It was 2-3 years ago if I remember. It was 51% attacked and Crex24 was flooded with coins and price dumped like 99%
Some people bought coins at that low prices (all down to 2 sats). Later, developer offered everyone to sell again that bought coins at current price in order to burn them, but most of people didn't want to sell their coins, so coin simply died. This told you how "serious" project was. BTW, I liked coin. It had small supply, which I considered to be good.