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FLIPPOKER IS CLOSING!

I'm in real hurt of writting this.. but we have decided to close FlipPoker.
We can't afford to keep this service running anymore, that's because of lack players and interest from the community.

Our vision were to make this a great place to spare some coins with some pokerflips, but after ~1 year we have only made a massive negative profit so we can't continue running this service anymore.

So it appears that this idea didn't came through as we would hope.

Betting, deposits and withdrawals have been suspended.

Now we're going to refund everyone manually. So please send an email at flippoker1@gmail.com with your completely url-key ect.. also a address to where you want your coins to be sent to.

Example:

Any free Bitcoin promotions to test the site before depositing?

Yea, we can manage that :) Just write your Bitcoin deposit address and I will send you some.

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not sure i understand the layout but i love poker so if you can provide a btc primer i will deff give it a fair shake.

ok i see its like casino super holdem.looking forward to playing

We wan't to keep the site very clean and "straight forward". If you think that some parts of the site is kinda "confusing" give us a hint, it's really appreciated.

Your Bitcoin address that you provided isn't belonging to the site, check your address by click the "Deposit" button at the top-right corner.

We're also planning to implement a kind of "Faucet" function in the future, so keep your eyes open 8)

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Happy to hear!

I have credited your account with 0.0003 BTC. Have fun! :)

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Might as well give it a try to see if I like looks pretty good.

You're welcome!

I have credited your account with 0.0003 BTC, have fun! :)

Recieved I've started playing and it seems pretty good so far what's the house edge?

The house-edge is 1%, you can check the "fee" section in the FAQ.

I'm glad that you liked it :) We're currently monitoring everything so it will run as smooth as possible. Have already found some issues taking care off.

#EDIT: Just found an big malfunction in the system. I just froze your funds, I will return them when the "glitch" is fixed.

Best apologies.

I was wondering why I couldn't withdraw at least you are finding the bugs now.

You have now cleared my funds for some reason why might I ask? I got up to 0.01 and tried to withdraw and had issues I assumed because you froze everyones balance then you clear it?

I will explain, I watched your game.. but then I realised that you grow your balance to quickly. It's not possible to go from 0.0003 BTC to 0.01 BTC in just 50-55 games. Then I saw the problem.. you won all the games that you should have been lost and you got credited by it. Because your profit statistics were a negative while your balance were a positive.

I really apologize for that, I hope that you understand and that we got some mayor issues to fix during this process.

I see I notice that now in the stats window when better to get rid of all the bugs sooner rather than later hope you get that fixed I thought it was to good to be true how fast I was earning it.


Back down to a smaller amount now then I guess actually now you have reset my balance again I have to low to even continue.

Yes, I had to do that. You actually spend all your funds previously.. and that's not fair. I hope you understand and once again.. I'm sorry for this :/

Best regards.

Worst site ever.

Ties get graded as losses.  The multiplier is misleading.  On a 1.19x multiplier, for example, you are risking .0003 in order to win .00005643 (should be .0003 to win .000357).  Max bet is .0003 by the way...but the min cashout is .01.  This is insane, I highly doubt that the house edge is 1%, even if the cards are all dealt randomly (are they?), on most hands you are risking 3-10 times as much as you stand to win.  Glad I only lost small amount checking this horrible site out.

I got to 0.01 but then it got reset I was about to cash out too.

We don't calculate our profit that way, it cost you a bet then you get the "bet * multiplier" in return.
You're completely right about the 0.01 BTC min-withdraw.. I just lowered the limit to 0.001 BTC. Also added the 0.0004 and 0.0005 bet value.


I have explained to you in the previous post why that happend. We don't think it's right to payout to players when a malfunction on the site appears. So we just removed your funds for a minute to calculate your real balance who we're at a negative value. So actually we "refunded" you.

But I completely understand your concern and frustration.

Ok, then there is no way that you only have a 1% house edge.  If that were true, the player would need to win somewhere around 70-80% of their hands.  This clearly isn't the case.  Your site is RIDDLED with misspellings and vagueries and I'd suggest that everyone stay away.

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0.0003 BTC have been credited to your account.

Since my questions were ignored, I've had some time to run some math.  All of these are assuming that the flop/turn/river are completely random.  I have to assume that since it's not explained anywhere on the site.  These are all hands played on the site, for btc:

A9 vs 42 with a 1.07 multiplier.  The player has a 65.06% chance of winning, assuming completely random f/t/r:

Option 1: Fold, lose -.00005
Option 2: Bet .0001  65.06% of the time player wins and profits .000007.  34.94% of the time, player loses or ties (ties lose on this site, another rule that isn't stated anywhere) and loses -.0001.  Total equity: -.0000303858

Option 2:  Bet .0002.  If you do this, your equity is -.00005588.

Option 3:  Bet .0003.  If you do this, your equity is -.00008382.

This means that, in this scenario, every decision will lose you money in the long run.  And folding a hand that's a 65% favorite is a better decision then betting either of the two larger bet options.


Let's look at a hand with a higher multiplier.

J4 vs 95s with a 1.49 multiplier.  The player has a 54.46% chance of winning, assuming completely random f/t/r:

Folding loses you -.00005

Betting .0001 gives you an equity of -.0000188546
Betting .0002 gives you an equity of -.0000377092
Betting .0003 gives you an equity of -.0000565638


Another situation where every decision is going to lose you money overall, and the more money you risk the more you are losing.

I could go on, but a majority of the hands I played seemed to have a multiplier under 1.5x.  I believe I saw only one hand where the multiplier was over 2x, and that was ~2.2x but I admittedly didn't play very long, since even if you win every other hand you are losing a quarter bet per hand. 

I'd love to see the documentation that shows a provably fair 1% house edge as you stated.

I'm glad that you actually took your time for this post. I will look into these thing that you mentioned and see if there's something I may improve.. like the multiplier or the bet limits and so on.
I really like to get some feedback, both positive and negative. Because the site is still in development, I had many ideas for this in the beginning but you need to start somewhere and implement these features in the progress.

I will try to answer all your questions about the card randomisation and the multiplier calculation (without revealing too much of the code.. for obvious reasons). It may be a good idea to post that information at the site too, you're right that it's really little described about this process.
But not right now at this late hour.

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0.0003 BTC have been credited to your account.

So your assertion is still that your site has a 1% house edge, despite those two real-btc hands that I posted?

If I bet .0001, and the house edge is 1%, I should get back, on average, .000099.  In the first example I posted above, I'm getting back .0000696142.  Wouldn't you say that that means that the house edge, on that bet, is 30.39%?  

I'm sorry.. but I didn't really follow what you mean.
I can make an example so you maybe understand.

If you bet 0.0001 BTC on a 1.5x multiplier the math is like this (if you win):
0.0001 * 1.5 = 0.00015
0.00015 - 0.0001 = 0.00005 (this is your "profit")
0.00005 * 0.01 = 0.0000005 (this is the fee)
0.00005 - 0.0000005 = 0.0000495 (this is your payout winnings)

I hope you understand my example above..

Hold up, hold up.  You are CHARGING A FEE ON WINNINGS?  THAT'S what you are referring to when you say "house edge"???  And you "don't follow" what I mean when I clearly explain very very basic math showing how much people are losing per hand? 

What percentage of each bet is the house winning each hand?  That's what house edge means.  In the two examples I provided, those percentages are 30% and 19%. 

I think that I have explained this good enough in the "Fee" section on the site. I thought that you knew that.

I didn't really know what the term "house edge" really was, I thought it was just the "profit of the house" kind of term. I will have a study about the "house edge" and see what I come up with. I didn't really knew how to charge the fee's on another way than this. Maybe something to change to.

Did you make this site?  Are you saying that you don't know what % the house wins at?  Are you trying to say that the game pays out perfectly even odds (which I believe I've shown isn't the case)?  How can you make/own a site but claim to not know how much you stand to make on bets placed on said site? 

Let me give you an example.  If the site had it's odds programmed in a way such that it was paying out at a rate over 100% (so if someone bet 1, their EV was over 1), you'd lose money.  How are you sure that that isn't happening?  If you are sure that the site isn't paying out too much money, you MUST know what rate it IS paying out at. 

What.

Is.

That.

Rate.

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I would of thought you would of allowed me to have what I earned because it wasn't my fault and you found the bug because of that imagine if you wasn't online when someone did that you would be bankrupt within a few hours if they bid high enough.

Have credited your account with 0.0003 BTC.


Well, yes.. I didn't really were in the mood yesterday to lose the whole bankroll (also some of my own personal cash) for a malfunction.

#EDIT: You also gotta know that I felt really bad about that.. I have thought about this for a minute and I will credit your account with the 0.01 BTC you should have won in the first place.
Just check your balance and you will see that 0.01 BTC is there.


No advertising in this thread thanks, create your own topic if you want to promote that site.

I guess the website needs a fix on multiplier of winnings.
Random multiplier will NOT help the user.
Multiplier should be like something that equiparate to the difficulty of the hand to be won against another, not random. I'm like... going to say, what happens if in case i get AA and my opponent gets 72 the multiplier would be like 1.7(just an example) I would bet like the max because I know I'm pretty happy to bet "all i got" to win a so easy hand.
Meanwhile 2 hands that are similars... like Q7 and K8 should be like 1.2, i tried it and im like ok, if i win i win almost nothing... 1.05 for example.
I'm not an expert on percentage of winnings, but at least put real %

Thank's for taking your time.

My vision about this were to give the users completely random odds and hands.. that you could wake up with 72 vs AA with 2.5x or vice versa AA vs 72 with 2.5x for you. That it could come some oppurtunity's where you really need to take a risk or you pass the hand and get to the next one.
Perhaps some of the multiplier values is "to low" too.. you can get a multiplier high as 3x if your lucky. But I will look into this when the multiplier calculates depending on the pre-flop and what that would mean for the site.

No advertising in this thread thanks, create your own topic if you want to promote that site.
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I apologize. 

It's been over 12 hours and you still haven't replied to me.

What is the house edge %? 

How is the game provably fair?

I need your Bitcoin address from the site, just press the "Deposit" button in the top-right corner.

A day and a half now.  Still no answers?  Clearly it can't still be "too late" for a decent response?

What is the house edge%?

How is the game provably fair?

Why wouldn't you answer those questions when I asked them initially?

Hi there.. sorry for the delay but I have been away over the weekend.
I will try to answer your questions right now, I hope that you follow along.

Multiplier
The calculation function works like this:

Card generation
This may be a little more advanced, but I will try to explain it as good as I can.

This above is the process to generate the players/opponent and table cards.


This above is the part where the winner is decided. PokerEvulator is an library you can find here: https://github.com/chenosaurus/poker-evaluator

Then there is this encrypted SHA1-hash that is shown at the start of a game.


The encryption is using this function: http://pastebin.com/JYBGv1mV

I hope that you got any programming knowledge, otherwise it's really hard to explain how this works.

But we're going to rewrite this whole process, some new features are coming up.
We're going to remove the "random multiplier" and generate an multiplier that depends on your holding and the opponent holding. Also we're going to remove the bet-limit so you can bet whatever amount you want.
Another feature we're going to implement is an "Faucet" function where you can earn free bitcoins to play with once an hour or so (not really decied what the range will be yet).
We're also going to rewrite the whole "charge fee" part of the system. There is going to be an "house edge" type of fee charging instead.

Thanks for posting that.  I have zero programming knowledge, but hopefully someone more intelligent then myself can look over that and verify it.

It's a little odd that you could do all of that coding but were confused with my simple equity calculations.  I also didn't see you answering my question about house edge.  What is it?  In the two hands I posted days ago, wouldn't you agree that the house edge was 30% and 19%? 

No, it's not.. as I explianed earlier the fee is 1% of every "winning hand". Also that we charge 1% of the return you get from your winnings. So if you bet 0.01 BTC on a 1.5x multiplier your return/profit will be 0.005 BTC.
These 0.005 BTC are we charging with a 1% fee.. so you actually only get 0.00495 BTC in return because 0.00005 BTC is the fee that has been drawn from your winnings.

But the game doesn't pay out evenly 100%.

As I posted above, the player is going to be losing money more often then they will be winning money.  When the player loses money, that money goes to the house.  That is the EDGE that the HOUSE has.  In most games that edge is 1%, meaning if the player risks 1 they expect to get back .99.  As I showed, in those hands, risking 1 would expect to get back .70 and .81.  Because the way that you work the multiplier makes it so that most hands are losing hands (equity wise).  Right?

That's highly illogical.  The low probability of a good multiplier directly correlates to the house edge.  BECAUSE IT IS THE EDGE THAT IS RETAINED BY THE HOUSE!

I'm not saying I lose money so I'm salty, I'm saying that the math is showing that EVERYONE will lose money and at a rate that is far far higher then you claimed it was.

Again, I will ask you:  what is the house edge?  You MUST know it, because if it wasn't in your favor (for example, if the multiplier was coded in a way that you were losing money) you wouldn't put it up.  Right?  You wouldn't put a game up for real btc if it was losing you money, right?  So since you know that it isn't losing you money, you must know at what rate it is making you money.  You claimed that rate was 1%, but then you said that you didn't know what "house edge" meant.  So I am asking you yet again...what is the house edge?

This is almost impossible to actually calculate.. but I did a try.

I benchmarked 11.371 played games.
Players won: 5.455 games.
Opponent won: 5.916 games.

After some calculations I got that the house edge were 4,05%.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

It's not impossible to calculate, it's basic math.  If the house edge is 4%, then a player who bets 1 should expect to recieve back .96.  Is this accurate?  Again, if the site was programmed in a way that you were losing money (EV wise) it wouldn't be live, right?  So since you know that it isn't losing you money (EV wise), you must know how much money it is projected to make.

Well.. if you can provide me with a "mathematical formula" to calculate which hands who beat another hand you can post it here.. but it doesn't exist one!
For example if you want to calculate the "percent" between the starting hands A7 vs T9 you need to benchmark like 100.000 hands of that type to get a "feeling" about what the "chanses" are for A7 to beat T9.

And I don't really follow you about the "bets 1 should expect to receive back .96". So you mean if you bet 1 BTC on whatever multiplier there is you should get a 0.96 BTC return if you win? That doesn't add up..
Just take a look at http://satoshiaces.com/ for an example. If you bet 0.00000100 BTC at a 1.1x you will only get a profit of 0.00000009 BTC (after the fee's I suppose). That's exactly the same "method" I use on this site.

...what?

A7 vs T9 is 55.66%/44.03% in favor of A7 with a .31% to tie (which you grade as a loss).  Are you saying that you don't understand poker odds?

So, here are the things that you don't understand:  poker odds; house edge; basic math. 

AGAIN I must ask:  what is the house edge on your website?  I know that you claim you don't know (which is insane since if you actually didn't know, you could have it programmed in a way that loses you money...which it clearly doesn't), so maybe find someone to do the math for you.  It is VERY irresponsible for you to be accepting deposits and taking real btc bets when you can't answer and in fact are providing FALSE answers to basic questions about your site.  At best you are operating under extreme neglect. 

How did you calculate these values? Or did you just use an online odds calculator?..

I have already told you that the "house" got an 4.05% edge.. if the "house wins when it's a tie" didn't exist would result in that the house and the player would both have a 50% chance of winning. Because you never know what cards you or the house will get dealt. Both would have the same advantage.

By the way, I'm really aware of odds/pot-odds/outs and so on when it comes to poker.

Odds are static.  They don't change.  The odds I quoted are the odds of the hand.  If you are "really aware of odds..." you should know this.  Do you know this?

You "already told me" that the house got a 1% edge.  The you posted an incredibly low sample size and said "um I think this means the house has a 4.05% edge".

I'm asking you again.

What is the provably fair house edge % on your site?

This is getting comical.

Yes, I made an mistake about the "house edge" because I was un-sure what that really was until I did some research about it. The house edge isn't some "static" value you just can set when it comes to this type of game on this site. It's something you need to benchmark to get a grip on, that's exactly what I did. If you would get your money returned if it were a tie the house edge would be 0%.

The edge is the advantage the house has over the players.. and the only advantage the house has over the players at the moment is when a hand got tied.
But if we take the multipliers too for an example.. if your multiplier is for an example 1.25x the edge would be much higher. Because you will risk more than you would win.

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All that has been calculated at this time is that the "opponent" wins 4% more of the time than the player. If it's truly random then that number can and should fluctuate. Is the opponent the house or am I actually playing a hand against another player?

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No, you are incorrect.  I illustrated two examples where the house edge was over 20%.  You admitted that you don't understand what house edge means.  You've now made THREE different claims.  That the house edge is 1%, that the house edge is 4.05%, and now that the house edge is 0% plus ties. 

This is VERY basic math.  Are you willing to state, definitively, what you claim your house edge is?  I'll give you a hint...if you say a number under 20%, you are either lying or are talking out of your ass. 

So, once again: 

What

Is

The

House

Edge?

Don't you think that people who are risking real money on your site deserve to know this? 

Now your account have been credited, sorry for the misunderstanding.


You're playing against the house and not another player.

Yes, so I don't really know what to say more about the "house edge". The edge will be different every single time a new game starts up.

The house edge would actually be from 4% up to (something) I need to calculate. But since I'm going to redo the whole multiplier process I will announce the real house edge when it's done.. 1-2 weeks.

This is in early development.. and we had a very bad "start" and I apologize for that. We want to earn the community's trust.. but I know that you guys are kinda sceptical at the moment. But we will do our best to get the game as fair as possible. So I'm glad we had this discussion because we will re-think the whole process. So I suggest no one deposits any coins yet until we have sorted this out. We don't want to be un-fair to our players.

We have learned by our mistakes.

Please edit your OP to include what you just put here.  You don't know what your sites house edge is, but you know that it's higher then every other site in the market and you suggest that no one deposits.

Wouldn't you say now that everyone who DID deposit was lied to (since you had said that the house edge was 1%)?  Why should anyone trust your site in the future with a history of being disingenuous?

I know it will be really hard to earn trust during these circumstances. But I willl do my best.

I have updated the first post and disabled deposits on the site. It's the only right thing to do until all of this have been resolved.

It's been a while since any updates have been posted.

We haven't give up on this site, but we haven't got the time yet to sort this out due to still being in the process of setting up extra hardware. What we do have is a brand new method of calculating the statistics of our games that we think you will like.
Our last milestone is to fix the communication between our "hot wallet" and the site.

Best regards, FlipPoker.net

Now we are LIVE!
We apologize for the inconvenience before and we hope that our new version of FlipPoker will come in handy.

New features:
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Are you still lying about your house edge?

They are lying? by the way, the site is bugging hard.

What do you mean? As our FAQ states:
The “1% House Edge” means that 1% is reduced of every multiplier. Let’s say that you got a hand when you got a 50% chance to win the multiplier would be 2. But with the 1% House Edge the multiplier will be 1,98. With some basic mathematics this will be calculated like this: 2 * 0.99 = 1,98

Can you please explain what's wrong with this?

Still in development.

Read the thread.  He claimed his house edge was one thing, I proved that it wasn't, he then basically admitted that he doesn't know what house edge means.  I then asked how, if he doesn't understand how math works, he could ensure that the site was so house-friendly aaaaaaaaaaaaaand he disappears for a month.

I asked you a question.  You responded with a non-answer.

Before, you were lying about the house edge.  Are you still lying about the house edge?

Are you claiming that the house edge is 1%?  Are you willing to offer a bounty if someone can prove that that is not true?

Yes, that's right. I disappeared a month under development and figuring some stuff out to improve this site. I also closed the site during this period. This is not like the old site that was really unfair to the player.
I don't want to be unfair to the players and I want this to be a legit site.

We can call this a "re-launch".

Regards.

Hello, I know the creator IRL. He is trying to make a legit gambling site, no cheating with money anywhere. The rules are clear, site has been updated a lot. Trying to covince him to make a bonus for the deposits :)

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Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with :)

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment :-\

https://i.imgur.com/B5PzaLu.jpg checking so deposit works. So far so good.

You didn't answer either of my questions.  Why?

Then I will give you an straight answer here.

We reduce every multiplier/odds by 1%, that's what the "House Edge" is on this site.
Please convince me otherwise.

You quoted my questions...and then didn't answer them.

Here they are again:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Also, a bonus question for you (that I asked earlier and you ignored): Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Note that I'm not claiming that it ISN'T, I'm asking if it's worth my time to find out.  You are so far 0/1 on your claims, so I clearly have reason to question.

Those three questions one more time:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

Sure, that sounds fair. If you can prove it that something is wrong here it's actually worth to lose this "bounty" to get it right.
How much are you suggesting?

Yes, I admit that we made a BIG mistake when we launched this site from the start.
And we're trying to do it right this time. We hope we will get the communities trust in the future.

If you want you can try it out, there's a faucet where you can earn some free coins to try it out with :)

Please come with feedback to improve this site, if you have any suggestions it's very appreciated. It's like you trying to ruin this site at the moment :-\
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You didn't answer either of my questions.  Why?
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Then I will give you an straight answer here.

We reduce every multiplier/odds by 1%, that'swhat the "House Edge" is on this site.
Please convince me otherwise.
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This is a complete reboot. He wants a normal gambling site that with player UI allows betting bitcoins.

GO LOOK AT THE PAGE ITS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST SITE! A MISSTAKE WAS MADE BUT HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME CORRECTING THIS AND HAS THE SAME EDGE AS OTHER SITES! HE HAS HAD A MONTH TO FIX THE SITE DURING THE SHUTDOWN!

I am betting my own money (not much but it's some) in my deposit.

I asked three questions, you half answered one.  This seems to be a trend with you.

You should come up with a bounty that you can afford, that you feel will properly motivate people to test your site for you.  If you are asking for me to give you a suggestion, I'd suggest 1BTC, obviously held in escrow with a trusted escrow.

Here are those three questions one more time, let's hope for some more answers:

Have you made restitution to the players that you were (in your words) "unfair" to?

Why should players trust a site that has a history of being (in your words) "unfair"?

Are you willing to put out a bounty for anyone who is able to show that the house edge isn't 1%?

We're a new site.. and a 1 BTC bounty will hurt the total flippoker bankroll really bad (because we're new at the gambling market). We wan't to cover every players winnings.
I have already told you about that we made a huge mistake to even release the site in the first place.

I missed that question about the "restitution" to the players (sorry about that). We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh* because the site were only up for a couple of days.
I think because all the bad "response" on the forum, so people didn't want to risk a deposit to our site.

We hope we can reverse that trend and get trustworthy.

Quit that. Move on. If he would have been up for scamming he would have made a ponzi instead of putting down lots of time on this project. He is thinking about hiring a designer (we have a friend who works with web design).

I honoestly don't know why you keep going on about this. It's a fair site now, we are human humans makes misstakes. Instead of asking for a bounty tell him what's wrong so he can correct it..

Are you 100% positive that that is the truth?

Why should people trust a site that was (and still is in development, but so is every other gambling site)? Well shit happens, when realized it was taken down (and it did not take too long). I just deposited money and it works fine.

This is a brand new site with proper balance between the player and the house (like PrimeDice for instance).

P.S If you already know something and aren't sharing you are a real dick. We need more gambling sites for Bitcoin that are stable, you should help out if you have information.

You are blindly defending your friend.  None of what you say matters to me because it has no substance.  Your friend has a history of (in his words) "unfair" behavior.  He is continuing to dodge questions, say half-truths, and act oddly.

The onus is on him to prove that his site is legit.  I'm asking him to do so, and to answer some unanswered questions.  This should be very easy to do.  Having a healthy skepticism is important when dealing with unknown gambling games, and nothing that I'm asking is unfair or out of bounds.

If anyone would have made deposits during the brief time they were open we deeply apologize to them. However we have seen no transactions to the wallet.

Well gee, here's one:

https://blockchain.info/tx/fb8cd070b1746ec71c741313d10146c9917d68c425a5a0ddbccf26e75b62d9fd

And you can see that it looks like it was moved into a different wallet a day and a half later, along with some other funds. 

Soooooo you claimed you got 0.  There's proof of one.  The way the funds were moved implies at least one other.  Would you like to revise your claim of "We actually didn't got any deposits onto the site *sigh*"?

If that is true we will look it up. We won't run away with your money.
We will investigate this and come back to you. If that transaction actually made it to our wallet we will refund you.

Hi, now we have looked it up.. and it seems that you're right.

We found this in our transaction history:

These coins were never credited into our system, so we never recognised it. That's one part that we have complete re-programmed so it won't happen again.

Please provide me with your Bitcoin address and we will you refund you these 0.0025 BTC.

Best apologize.

1E2UcP6Ag6woTjinCasUbr4CDXtRJN6pkn, the same account that sent the coins.

It seems that you often don't tell the truth, and then come up with an excuse for why you aren't telling the truth.  This is a red flag in business.

We have refunded you: https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/86e8529625875b314bda372fe4aafd752c256888308394a9b79075b5fdf2b5f3
(We also gave you an extra 0.0001 BTC for the trouble).

I'm not hiding for the truth, our site is totally anonymous and it's almost impossible to know which coins belongs to a specific person. If something have gone bad we will fix it.
I hope you see us as fair enough after we have refunded you. We wan't to be legit site.

So we do the right by our users.

Well I can tell you this: PR isn't really his strong side and he made this site on his own during his free time. He is not familiar with fourms (at all), (if in  he already answered you earlier he wont bother writing that down because you know it). But I do agree with you that questions shouldn't be avoided unless there is reason for it.

This whole is a hobby for him, a hobby that hopefully will generate some cash, while at the same time allowing people to play carcd. He works 8 hours a day with programming and has for several years now - he makes over $4k a month, petty theft is really not required. He has a genuine interest for programming and wants to get somwhere - having the #1 card gambling site would mean more than the money being made as it's a very large achievemenet and ofc it's what almost eveyrone strives for - being the best in what they like to spend time doing.
 
I dont know anything about the first incident, I know that it launched and that something went wrong - but should any BTC be find missing I'm sure it will be payed back.

I don't see you as fair enough, no.  You were not truthful about your house edge.  You were not truthful about how many people had deposited.  You refunded me after a month of holding the coins and after lying about receiving my deposit.  How do I know that there aren't other people who have deposited that never received a refund?  It's not the cost, obviously, it's the principal.  If you are dishonest about .002, why should I expect you to be honest about larger amounts?

You have shown that, AT BEST, you are bad at running a business.  You avoid questions and then answer them dishonestly.  I don't know why you'd expect people to think you are legit.

You are making this worse for your buddy.

If he's such a brilliant programmer then there is no reason for him to have been dishonest about the house edge initially.
If he's such a brilliant programmer then there is no reason for him to have been dishonest about deposits.

His history is bad.  Could the site be legit now?  Of course it could.  But why would anyone trust it to try?

I really wish that the past would "disappear" and we can continue on. As you see I have refunded you.
If you had the feeling like you got "robbed" by our site you should have contacted our support at: flippoker1@gmail.com

Or you just could make an post in this thread and we would sort this out sooner.

If anyone else got their deposits lost please reply to this. As I said before, we can't connect any deposit to a specific person because we have designed the whole system to be "anonymous".
We just wan't a fresh restart.. and I know we have a bad history. But many of these gamble sites always went into trouble during this "early stage".

No there is no reason for that - I haven't claimed that either. But as previously stated I don't know much about the 1st launch and from what he told me the adresses are 100% anomynous, even for him. The adresses are 100% anomynous, not even he can see information about it. Him being a good programmer doesnt make him top PR or making 100% right decisions.

As I've said, the money isn't the point, I just wanted to see if you would do the right thing on your own.

You didn't.

I wanted to see if you would tell the truth about your site.

You didn't.

The past doesn't disappear because it gives insight into the future.  Why would anyone trust you now when you've been so untrustworthy before?

You are giving an excuse that doesn't have any bearing on what I said, though.

He said "nobody deposited".  That wasn't the truth.  If he had said "people deposited but I don't know who they are", then THAT would have been the truth.  But nobody was talking about connecting deposits to wallets. 

That's why I'm trying to do the only thing that's right. I will look through all our transactions and see if there's any other deposits that have been made during this period. There's many transactions that doesn't involve FlipPoker, so it will take some time to get a grip on this.

Regards.

Well, I can't defend a lie. But I think lie in the sense is the wrong term here, even tho it's less complicated to say; he couldn't track the adresses back at tand focused on upgrading the site instead so nothing similar happend agian. Not being familiar with forums and how much damage it can cause he chose an easy path -it was an excuse for not having any way of tracking back the money (he told me this recently). Misstakes were made, but fixed and now everything is out in the open, the very little things that werent. This site is 100% in it to win it, I could bet my own kidney on that. He is investing more than an additional $5k for starting money this Tuesday just in case a burst of people.

I have a percentage of the site because I did some monkey work and I would not invest my time in short term scam bullshit instead of daytrading up bitcoins. Yes, misstakes were made, misstakes were fixed and the site has been completly rewamped (altho it's still anomynous, 100%!) so be careful not loosing the cookies (it says in the FAQ). Your money is back, he has checked the code to see if there is any way to track back the other user; turned out to be futile, if anyone steps forward with the transaction chain.

I understand the response that he (and now you) have given, I'm just saying that it's unsatisfactory.  Because of the way that the site has operated, there is no way that it can be seen as trustworthy going forward, IMO.

I understand that the people who have a vested financial interest in the site are going to say "no, it's legit we prooooooomise".  That's expected.  I'd rather look at facts and proof then listen to promises.

I have a hard time see how you can not be satisfied by the latest post. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPEND OVER A MONTH AGO ON A DIFFERENT SITE (basically). A BUG. THERE WAS NO INTENTION TO FUCK ANYONE OVER, THE NEW SITE HAS BEEN IMPROVED ON BOTH SAFETY AND BUGS HAS BEEN FIXED. THE GAME IS FAIR TO THE PLAYERS, AS IT ALWAYS WAS INTENDED TO BE!

I am defending the site not because of the finiancial situation (I have it fixed - but it's fun to see it grow) but because I want my friend to succeed here. You know, compassion.

The facts you are talking about are on a site one month OLD, LOT of code has been changed, holes has been plugged and bugs fixed? You are saying there is no trustworthiness, there are still good people on the internet and it will be proven within a few days that the site is here to stay.

One deposit so far we'll see if he makes an appearance in the thread.

Here's an extreme example:  if the people behind MtGox opened up a new bitcoin exchange, would you use it?

I wouldn't.. my first "advice" I got when get into bitcoin were to avoid Mt.Gox at all costs..
But the problem with Mt.Gox is that their really not care at all to fix their issues.

We have spent whole february to fix these issiues, so the players can have a good experience when playing on our site.

I love how you ignore my reply completly, who is doing short answers now?
That's one hell of of an extreme example, for one Gox didn't fix their code, nor pay their users back. It's a shame, unfair and seemingly just to add to insult to compare Gox to this project. And even your long drawn example of Gox fails because users still kept buying there even when things were fubar. This site took downtime instead to fix the issues, and managed to do so.

I don't need to answer your questions or respond to your comments.  I'm not trying to sell you something, you are trying to sell me something.  Besides, your responses are the Company Line.  They are predictable and don't provide any insight.

As I said, it was an extreme example, I was trying to illustrate the point that people will be wary of doing business with places that they don't trust.  I don't trust your site because of the way that it has operated in the past.  Is that necessarily fair to you, as a new investor?  Probably not, but you probably should have vetted your investments a little better if you didn't want that perception of your site.

Here's the bottom line: is your site fair?  I don't know.  Is it run well?  I don't know.  It's entirely possible that the site is 100% on the up-and-up and is a great place to play, and it would be a shame if the history prevents people from experiencing that.  But you can't blame people for being wary to try it out, based on that history.  How do you get people to ignore your past and focus on your future?  I don't know that either.  I made one suggestion (offer a bounty for people to essentially bug test the software and odds and give it a thumbs up) and it was rejected. 

Were proudly to announce our first deposit and withdraw. He had a really good run and made a good profit.

https://i.imgur.com/PMBCHP0.png

Deposit: https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/0bfcf80e2ad3b96ac7b82d7b792da6be5a16910f5255a58e5f510b0fec1d2069
Withdraw: https://blockchain.info/sv/tx/4d9b4ec1c1da49bc4681238b5b270a5b4d55bd31b093fbfe1fe4eeb05447cb46

Then why even write here? We have responded, refunded and do what we can. People play, there has even been a few deposits done - works well so far and as we run into any bugs we will fix them.
I am not trying to sell you anything, if you really can't let go the first incident even tho it has been fixed, and the money you lost has been refunded to you we dont want you by now. You just keep throwing fieces at us for no reason, repeating the same stuff over and over. Fine, dont trust our site - but if you aren't going to use it why are you still posting here??

Bold: The site is fair. Did you bother to check the FAQ? How do you know any site is run well? Time tells, but you aren't giving us any time, instead you scare users away by crying about stuff that's completly irrelevent to the site as it is today. The "people" you are refering to is you since you are the only one who keeps questioning it, which you have a right to do but not 100 times over and over.
How to get people to ignore a crappy version of a game and keep them comming back when new version is released? Fix what was wrong.
Your bounty aint needed when a new game starts a SHA1-hash key will appear. This hash will then be shown decrypted when your game is finnished to show you how the game were setup. Read the FAQ.

Can you give me some more details about the problem. What's happened when you have entered the correct captcha?

Regards.

#EDIT: Just saw that you removed your post. Is the problem solved?

The popup windows "Transaction history, Deposit, Withdraw, Free" seems not to work if you're in the "Play" section. We're going to fix that issiue.

This means simply click on FAQ or stats first then do your deposits or faucets or whatever.

Address in signature thanks

You are welcome sire no problems sire.

Faucet update

Now we have decreased the waiting time to receive your faucet from 1 hour to 10 minutes.
You can only claim the faucet if your balance is "below" 100 Satoshi (0.00000100 BTC).
We have also implemented a feature that informs you when your next faucet will be available.

Upcoming feature

We're going to implement a chat where our players can communicate with each other. So stay tuned..

We got some issues with blockchain.info at the moment. So we need to process your deposits "manually".. so all your deposits may be delayed to get credited at this point.
We're hoping this will be solved within 24 hours.

Now we have added a "10%" betting button into our game requested by one of our players. We also thought it was a good idea.

We still got problems with blockchain.info so deposits may still be delayed.. but don't worry, all your coins are safe and it will be credited to your account in time.

It have been a while since we posted any new updates in this thread.

We're developing a "Version 2" of FlipPoker at the moment with a new design and some new features and optimizations. We will leave the current version of FP up and running until we have released the new site.

We want to share some early "teasers" with you guys in the meantime :)

https://i.imgur.com/YDW7tKa.png

https://i.imgur.com/g8a4XD5.jpg

If you could can you make the site more mobile friendly... Having resizing issues and also make a 4 colour deck... My eyes are getting old.

We will look into that in our new version for the site. Thanks for your feedback.

Just to know, explain me this:
https://i.imgur.com/8Aohp20.png?1
95% of win with same cards and with a totally blank board I lose?

Thanks for your post!

This is a known issue I thought we had already solved. It's not a 95% chance to win that hand, because when a "tie" appears means that the house will win.

We will look into this, sorry for the inconvenience. We can refund you that loss if you want to, just tell me your BTC deposit address on the site.

Thanks once again.

oh okay
14ht1X9829orgXud6rQjRyKarsCRUuSSMq
that's the deposit addy :)
Another thing I found:
I clicked deal, selected an amount, and clicked bet, and it says:you could have won... how is this possible?
https://i.imgur.com/gNE8Rqm.png?1
I love being a tester.

Your account have been credited. Sorry once again.

Please tell me if any other issues appear, I'm here to help :)

Good luck!

Received thanks :)

Are you sure you didn't missclicked on the Fold button? According to the hand history you folded that hand.

nevermind, maybe i folded and didnt noticed.

this is a cool idea. i like that your incorperating a faucet and pokr together even to make a little game. very cool. will be trying it out and hopefully using site quite a bit

Happy to hear! :)

We wanted to make a kind of unique game, something new. But there is much to be done.. we got a lot of new upcoming features and ideas for this site.

If you guys got anything you want to see added to the game, don't hesitate to tell me :)

Excellent Game!!!!!
Loving it deeply!

We have reached 10.000+ bets!

Thank you all! :)

Going to try this out. It looks good, so let's hope it plays good as well :P

I am liking this game. It's quick, it's easy and it's user friendly. Well done ;)

I'm glad to hear that! :)

But a common problem we have is to deal a new hand, it's pretty slow at the moment. But that's something were working on and we hope to solve this issue in the near future..

Hmmm, the loading time is okay. I do advice you guys to add an favicon to your website. Makes it a bit more professional.

Yea, we are aware of that our site feels kinda "cheap" at the moment. This version of the site were kind of a "test" to see if there were any interest in this kind of gambling sites.
You can see on one of my previous posts that were working on a new site that will include some new features, also a new design.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=442993.msg5734215#msg5734215

But keep in mind that it's not the final product, just an early stage of the site. Still much to be done :)

Ah, I see. Looking good dude! I wish you the best with the website and may you earn a nice decent amount of Bitcoins. ;)

We have reduced the faucet time from 10 minutes to 1 minute.

Happy gambling and good luck! :)

We recently had some problems with the server.
But now it's all up and running and should work fine.

Regards.

Update 2014-04-19
After some hard work and a bussy schedule we have finally released our new version of the site.
We will continue pushing updates to the site in the meantime, like a chat and other stuff going to be implemented in the future.

We have also changed our fair encryption from SHA1 to SHA256.

Sorry for the delay according any new updates. We had some other "side projects" to solve.
But now our automatic deposit service is working again. (Don't need to handle all deposits manually.. now it will be deposited instantly).
Just send us an mail at: flippoker1@gmail.com if you got any questions.

Sorry for the delay once again.

PS. We have generated new deposit Bitcoin-addresses to everyone.

Regards, Flippoker

Hi guys, would like to share some of our players payouts. Here are some payouts :)

https://blockchain.info/tx/4d9b4ec1c1da49bc4681238b5b270a5b4d55bd31b093fbfe1fe4eeb05447cb46
https://blockchain.info/tx/19e40429c71ba275971d30bbf2688a438566040498569fa23edcaacc9e4c7c93
https://blockchain.info/tx/213f5a193453af721350483a523dfb172daa640d56c29a55953f06e826ed9670
https://blockchain.info/tx/c59bf45920ee38e005a0afd677917afc89ad87ae64ab430727179965390864ee (OUR BIGGEST SO FAR! 0.25314796 BTC)
https://blockchain.info/tx/a1f9db48707427941c061173190621ee90e200bc6d9331a53cdf8531e36dc259
https://blockchain.info/tx/f2866dc6de3bd8a5d8b4583498489bef0b296cac5bf70722659a940105ada55f
https://blockchain.info/tx/ec0b37a9e61f4f46ed7485bb8037991aea589e59a8fadc70ec5807bd23274962
https://blockchain.info/tx/db056967ba7063982bce28455198596f43c6bf33e5c306cd0e8acb95ce305ad0
https://blockchain.info/tx/62be8038cf180bcd2f03b93b3822fa13897098cca1937ab2629234955c68eb70
https://blockchain.info/tx/91e1135b10750b943feb04e521c54926aac034adb535a127ee0aae8d1acdc0da
https://blockchain.info/tx/e2b1ab597f0b2d30225f4a2111d3f8e1bd2ff59eb2610b641ea6014ad162ae69
https://blockchain.info/tx/03c5f5cc263f68305deb94874ab4e569d8bfcad3ce7e89911ce3310f189383b7
https://blockchain.info/tx/4c26c6d1645574ea576de490fb835023a708ad20124b8acfa4ffd7e163cce4fa
https://blockchain.info/tx/32515d27b5a926821fa854083e395ab505b5ae522a6118a4b6f43945a300a82d

This site is pretty fun

Glad to hear :) If you goy any suggestions/improvments we're happy to hear it.

Happy gambling :)

Now we have implemented a chat so you guys can communicate during your FP session.

Please let us know what you think! :)

Damn, I could easily play this game for hours non stop. Much more fun than hi lo dice.

Now just to get a decent group on chat going.

Good work.

Happy that you appreciate the game :)
If you got any suggestions/ideas about the chat don't hesitate to tell me :)

Now we have higher our bitcoin faucet.

Now you can receive 100 - 1000 Satoshi per minute.

Were about to add some other cryptocurrency than just Bitcoin. You guys got any suggestions on what coins you want to see at FlipPoker? :)

We just created our first Twitter account for this gambling site.
Feel free to follow us for some upcoming news and updates :)

https://twitter.com/FlipPoker1

This site is a ton of fun to play!
Owner is very friendly aswell!

!IMPORTANT!

We've had a database crash.. and we're not able to save the users data. But don't worry, we can solve this by tracking your transactions and play logs.

What you need to do:

• 1. Goto http://flippoker.net/ so your new account creates.
• 2. Get your new "Deposit address" you can find in your menu.
• 3. Get an previous transaction (TX id) you did earlier to your old account.
• 4. Send me the Deposit address and the transaction (TX id) to me via PM here on BTCtalk or mail me at: flippoker1@gmail.com

If you do this we can pair your old account with your new one.

We're deeply sorry for this, but we will make it right.

faucet dosent work
i filled 2 times captcha code and no btc received!

We're on it, still trying to get things running again.

Sorry once again.

Now we're back to normal. Now I'm gonna deal with the people who have missing money.

Read this post if you also lost your money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=442993.msg7975128#msg7975128

I got my bitcoin just fine when I did the faucet!

Security Update 2014-07-23
We have decided to add a "Withdraw password" option (it's optional), just click on the "Security" button and set your password.
But remember, if you forget or lose your password.. you can't recover it or get a new one.

+1 for FlipPoker, trustworthy group

Owner helped me fix my account after database malfunction.
+1

nice design site.. i love them..  8)

You just need to bookmark your URL (with the key in it) and just use it on the other computer :)

Deposit/Withdrawal Update 2014-07-24
We all hate to wait for the blockchains confirmations before an deposit gets credited.
So we have decided that no deposits need no confirmations, but all your deposits need at least 3 confirmations before an withdrawal will be processed.

Surprised this doesn't get more players. Its like playing dice games.... But a lot more fun. And easier to calculate risk.

New feature: Investments!

We have decided to let you guys be a part of the site's bankroll.

Here are some screenshots:

https://i.imgur.com/tGHTFW1.png

https://i.imgur.com/NAhFGjI.png

If you are unsure how this works? We will post a FAQ about this later (it's still in the making). Otherwise you can take a look at https://just-dice.com/ and see how they deal with their Investors (we use the same model).

If you got any questions about this, feel free to ask :)

Regards, FlipPoker

I'm happy to everyone who have won a decent amount of Bitcoins at our site :)
But we're still in development.. and at this "winning rate" we will re-fill our wallet once again and go to "bankruptcy" because we can't keep this site ongoing without money to support it.

So I'm sad to say that we're going to higher our "House Edge" from 1% to 5%, this is just a temporary solution while we're monitoring the sites activities in the meantime.

Hope you all understands our concerns.

Regards, Flippoker

Great site :) way more fun than dice games, with the invest feature there is no reason to not want to play on this site

This site really deserves more users. Its like a dice game... But 1000x more entertaining

We had some problems that prevented players from betting.
But now it have been solved.

Update 2014-08-05
Change of gameplay. The fold button has been removed and you can't bet 0 BTC anymore.

Love the new investment system, now a proud holder of some of the bankroll :D

I'm glad to hear that! :D

If you got any suggestions/improvments, feel free to share :)

Now the site is up and running again. Some changes regarding the max profit. More details to come..

Sorry once again, some server problems occurred because of the update. But now everything seems to work again.
Sorry for the downtime.

Doesn't work well on small screens;
https://i.imgur.com/6GLMSVI.jpg


Resolution 1366x768.

Aah.. some problems with our responsive layout. Thanks for pointing that out :)

Good choice, it was a bit steep earlier :)

Just added a online counter under the chat window. See screenshot below:

https://i.imgur.com/SqczqsP.png

New coin added!
Now we have added our first alt-coin! :D
This time it's FlutterCoin that we have been added. Enjoy!

https://i.imgur.com/lV9EGIn.png

Great choice :D

I think Ive done over 95% of the FLT betting so far, but I can't be the only one... After I invested my balance its gone up a bit.

Again.. This site deserves more users  :(

~2,000,000 (2 million) FLP invested already :)

https://i.imgur.com/uTE4IJc.png

how do you invest. i click the button, and it says i need to invest at least 1000 btc

0.00095010   x1.92   +0.00087409
String: 2014-08-09 02:10:54 (8h, 9c | Kh, 8c, 4c, 5d, 8d | Ts, 6d) kNdIfKon
SHA256 hash: 2d31a26778c781637020f95ecdc2f77bd6cba11bebe1fb0234fee9b21b8b157d

i got a multiplier of 1.92 on this hand with 8h9c vs 10s6d.

these odds are clearly wrong and in the houses favor. what do you have to say about this? i'm about 43% to win 2% to tie.

Thank you for pointing that out. It have now been solved :)

Could you explain a little more about what you think is wrong?

multiplier of 1.9: A3o vs 6Qs
multiplier of 1.88: Q3o vs 5Js
multiplier of 2.13 85s vs 410s
multiplier of 2.07 710s vs 6Js
multiplier of 1.95 55o vs 7Qs
multiplier of 2.09 Q10s vs 6Ks
mutliplier of 2.02 810o vs 6Js

if i'm ahead in the hand, the multiplier is less than 2x.

if i'm behind in the hand, the multiplier is more than 2x.

89o vs 106o i should have been paid more than 2x

You're right, you should have ~2.3x multiplier on that hand. Can you post your "BTC deposit address" and I will investigate what happend in that hand. If you have time, also take a screenshot off that hand.
I can refund you for that hand if you want.

1NpjHLQZpNBd1CBMd19Pn6EgfbSZDywNLC

yea give me the correct amount please. thanks.

don't know how to print screen on mac. but it's on page 4/9 on the statistics

I just credited your account with 0.00123513 BTC.

Betting FLT atm :D
Come join me in the chat"

Added a "Highscore" feature below the chat window. Enjoy! :)

https://i.imgur.com/3lyHNXY.png

Hands that results in a tie, doesn't count as a loss anymore. It's a push.

Good to know!

I think that everyone who have tried FlipPoker have experienced that dealing cards is really slow.. but not anymore.
We have optimized the whole process from 3.2s down to <.5s~.

Enjoy playing the cards.. not waiting for them! :)

Have added a analytics chart for your investments. With this chart you can login/logoff and check whenever you want if you have made any profits or losses. You can also change days and show another day of the chart (but only from today and on). This is still in the development, so if you have any suggestions or ideas, don't hesitate to tell me :)

https://i.imgur.com/7Tx0K1y.png

Our first two FLT withdrawals! :)

https://i.imgur.com/jPNpxcZ.png

Already 2M worth of FLT in bets! All this in 2 days!!! Come join US and buy some FLT at the same time!

100k flt worth 60$, you can bet a lot with 100k!

~3.5M FLT Wagered the first 2 days, keep the bets coming!

https://i.imgur.com/czUPK5p.png

4.125 mill now :O

Im up 52k FLT from investing, down 17k from playing, il take it  ;D

FLT CONTEST!

The player whos bet wagered 20,000,000 (20 millions) FLT will be awarded with 100,000 FLT!
Keep them flips coming! :)

Contest thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=734255.msg8294650)

5.1mill FLT wagered now! Investment to the moon  ;D

~5.2M wagered already! Maybe the contest will be over until friday :)
Keep on pump that wagered! ;D

https://i.imgur.com/sd34fpc.png

Update 2014-08-12
We have decided to drop the BTC section of FlipPoker and just focus on alt-currencies.
We will add other alt-coins in the near future, what coins would you like to see on the site?

We will maybe take BTC back in the future, time will see.

If you have any remaining BTC on your account, send me a PM so I can refund you.

please add litecoin and darkcoin

Will look into it :)

We have decided to lower the contests LFT goal to 10M (10 million) LFT.

Current wager:
https://i.imgur.com/hopoLBf.png

Update 2014-08-14
Added dogecoin.

https://i.imgur.com/j4E0BwQ.png

We have got some complains about that push hands still results in a loss.
We have refunded a bunch of hands that have been reported and we ask you to PM/mail me if you got any of these hands.

But now the push problem has been solved we hope, otherwise let me know.

Security update 2014-08-17
We have implemented 2-FA authentication for withdrawals. You can find it on your "Security" tab.

https://i.imgur.com/UpvGQCu.png

Big FLT investors are back after the 2FA

Remember you can win 100k flt. That's worth 60$!!!!
Only 2.5M in flt bet remain before the prize!

Faucet removed from header and replaced with Total invested.

https://i.imgur.com/7Kpt712.png

Added a simple user guide tutorial for new users to the site.
We hope that this will make it more "user-friendly" and less confusing for new users to get into the game.

https://i.imgur.com/zBZzLeJ.png

New coin!

We have added DarkCoin, enjoy!
http://drk.flippoker.net/

https://i.imgur.com/caFSDDW.png

We got some complains about late payouts, so now the instant withdrawal process have been fixed.
Also want to say that we only store a small fraction of the sites coins on the sites wallet (this enables us to payout smaller amounts instantly).

So larger amounts may be delayed sometimes depending on how many coins the sites wallet contains, so no worries.. you get them eventually :)

Regards.

You should add some slot machines to your casino! I looovee slots :3

Yea, I have also thought about it. But the name "flip-poker" maybe doesn't suit for slot machines? ;)

Have been some pretty insane gambling the last couple of weeks :) Here are some of our biggest winner/loser amounts.

FLT
Biggest winners

Biggest losers

It seems that people are pretty lucky in this game.

FLIPPOKER IS CLOSING!

I'm in real hurt of writting this.. but we have decided to close FlipPoker.
We can't afford to keep this service running anymore, that's because of lack players and interest from the community.

Our vision were to make this a great place to spare some coins with some pokerflips, but after ~1 year we have only made a massive negative profit so we can't continue running this service anymore.

So it appears that this idea didn't came through as we would hope.

Betting, deposits and withdrawals have been suspended.

Now we're going to refund everyone manually. So please send an email at flippoker1@gmail.com with your completely url-key.. also a address to where you want your coins to be sent to.

Example:

Mail me a transaction you did to the site, so I can pair it to your account.
Otherwise I can't help you with that, since I was very clear that you should store your URL key in a secret place.

This is the new owner of FLIP POKER.

I am closing this thread and opening a new one.