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+1 Sounds good. Are we starting over or keeping the block chain in tact?

I suggest we start over given that he has coins on the current/original block chain that I'm sure we would all like to have invalidated.

SC 1.04 becomes BEXcoin.

lawl.

our Solidcoin 2.0 with 1 million pre-mined coins and a TAX.

well you need to remove this coins, but how do you know in which blocks it is

WEll if they choose to use your chain and CH's then they get twice the coins which is absurd.

We may as well restart it and call it BCXcoin and be done with it.

Start over.

... and my axe!

invite me with my 25Ghash when your pool are ready. h

Solidcoin my ass!!
Don't do that with yourself man...  Just my ฿0.02... LOL ;D

You are so anti-alt-chain man. You forget that we are gaining mch valuable  info for bitcoin itself by testing these smaller chains.

If you feel like it BCX, however this grants me the privilege to bash you down hard as soon as you try to:

a) Add "phoony" blocks like those 10K
b) Input pre-magically-generated 1 M coins
c) Come to say I must call your junk by "SC", "BC" or something alike - I'll call it as I see it suits

Other than that... be happy.

I don't see the point of continuing SC when GG is up and running. Faster blocks, faster difficulty adjustments, faster implementation of bug fixes, etc.

Dilution of the cryptocurrencies.

I agree with you on this.

Alt-chains is a good thing, no doubt.

I just do not agree with the way you guys are doing this... It is so infantile... Using of defamation and lies to promote yourself by saying that the Bitcoin collapse is emminent, and that solidcoin is safe against 51% mining power, etc and etc... Tsc.. tsc...

This is not the way a real man should act.

This is the way that kids do playing around.

Look! My dick is bigger than yours!!  Oh crap...

Sorry, but you guys from Solid Coin, shooted in your own feet.

It could be called BitcoinEXpress' SolidCoin (BSC for short ;))

Solidcoin seems very liquid right now...

BSC sounds OK, actually we could start to name these alt-chains BSC (BullShitCoin), YaBSC(Yet another BullShitCoin)...

Actually if I would get to something in these grounds would be totally different than bitcoin.

Here's a draft:

Client/Server environment. No blockchain.

Generation could be done by the servers (which operate as a sort of banks) based on hashing (BTC style) or uptime and effort towards the network.

2 decimals only. 0.01 to be the minimum nothing bellow it.

The currency itself would be then certificates, being the servers able to process payments by revoke those certificates against PK A and passing them to PK B. Each of those certificates would have a specific amount; 0.01, 0.05, 0.10, 0.20, 0.50,1,2,5,10,20,50,100

So basically if I'm going to pay you 43, I'll be sending you two 20 certs + 1 2 cert + 1  1 cert. My client announces it to, let's say, 10~100 banks which start to process the payment revoking those 2x20+2+1 certs I have and reissuing it to you. The trust and double spending prevention is then done by multicasting the transference through multiple "banks".

So, then came the FBI and shuts down the servers...
P2P blockchain is the most powerful tool that we have today to play a alternate currency that is impossible to these fuckers (FBI/US Gov/etc) to shutdown it.

Um? What's the point of this? Really?

Either run the old chain and thus everyone keeps their coins or create a new chain and call it whatever you like and say it's a new chain.

So it's either Solidcoin (the pre 2.0 version) or it's some new chain - don't start using excuses to create another based on the old one then hacking it - that's really no different to 2.0 anyway.

Keep it simple and clear.

I like this idea. No ideas come to mind yet
I'll think of somethin....
or ad a couple gigahashes maybe....

Okay I'm going to be easy on you and say that it seems you don't know the facts.

I do not support the original solidcoin and its founder and his BS article you speak of. And many of us here also would agree to that.

Period.

Hell, just fixing the issues you mentioned fixing is a damn good start.
Maybe a client that actually works right (a first for anything but bitcoin...) without graphical errors, memory leaks, and random crashes.

Yes, it is absurd.  Which is why I love it.  With CH gone, SC has my support.  I still don't like having the bounty go to generating spam.  But, if CH goes to his fork then I will overlook this shady history as being properly handled.

Now, to generate lots of solidcoins so I can have twice as many!  Whooo! 

or start over.  Yep, just name it FlawlessCoin and you are all set to carry the legacy.

Um, why take 1.04 which is old, that's so 3 weeks ago. v2.0 is so sexy you will want to take that from me surely. Bitcoinexpress why don't you just attack v2.0 and like steal it off "me" or something like you said before? Just fire up that Geforce2MX army and come "get me" big dawg. Haha. Priceless comedy, people must think I pay this guy to advertise SC with the amount of stuff he posts about it, but I swear, I don't!

Take whatever pools and exchanges you want, doesn't matter, anyone who supports the old 1.04 is too stupid for my liking, it's very vulnerable and always will be regardless of the fixes you've said you want done. You aren't a programmer and you don't understand bitcoin protocol "I'll pay you guys to do it for me, come on... guys".  ;D

What are you going to do btw when people search for SolidCoin and get the official site? How is your "alt chain SolidCoin" going to get supported? The forum here? You're going to get a solidcoin domain and hope your page rank beats the one with over 10000 links to it? You don't really know much about the internet do you.

LMAO ok, so now we have this claim on public record so if it does happen it will make world wide news. Thanks for that, should be better than being slashdotted. I couldn't pay you to help SolidCoin out as much as you do, so thanks.

Where are those 1000 blocks?

Just my humor opinion, reading from your posts, both are experts technically and also in entrepreneurship.  Look at the popularity of Solidcoin when it was first launched.  Why not join forces and give us a tamper proof new generation Solidcoin instead at being at odds which each other? :)

Are you kidding? He says in the first post he cannot make the changes. He has already been caught lying numerous times about his claims (1.10 SC testnet for instance) and achievements. I cannot think why any reasoned person would think this kid is anything he says he is.

You are not "the community". You are a Troll, willing to destroy what other people created with their hard work.
Also you are trying to take Control over SolidCoin - its not yours and you will Fail.
The Heart of the Solidcoin community is #solidcoin at freenode - you are not welcome there, everybody hates you.

Oh come on - where is this hard work? Seriously where is it?
And ... here's something new for you too look up: "Open Source"

There really isn't much effort involved in bug fixing the bitcoin software especially when you know exactly what the bug is.
Come on, this place is full of programmers, if you aren't one yourself you really need to stop making a fool of yourself by praising something false.

Also, it's hard to be against BCX in this argument when he is the one advocating what Bitcoin is all about and CoinHunter is totally against the Bitcoin community.
... and that is a statement of fact, no fallacy at all - he is against the Bitcoin community.

At least understand what Bitcoin is about - coz it IS about open source and decentralisation and CoinHunter is CLEARLY against that.

Which is also why I think you SolidCoin votaries (yes I chose that word specifically) should just leave and go praise your God in your own forum.

+1 fuck off BitcoinEXpress, before I call Apple you clown.

+1 well said sir.
YTMND of the week!

Wrong Thiago, my draft is even more resilient to that than the existing blockchain. It's P2P too, doesn't have a X Mb blockchain, however have a small Mb shared (replicated) database used to bootstrap the protocol.

Eg. The nr. of needed banks to validate a transfer must be a % of the existing banks, as anyone can set up a bank at home, this number keeps changing so this central db keeps updating the bank-list and yet to be validated xfers.
What makes it more resilient than the blockchain is that it's normally smaller and faster to spread.

But bottom line, is the P2P replication which makes bitcoin resilient, not exactly "this" blockchain.



OT:

After CoinHunter came up playing God, now BCX is playing Jesus by attempting to resurrect the dead and rotten solidcoin.

This makes me wonder: Who will play the Holy Spirit to close the Trinity of Solidcoin?

Several former Solidcoin exchanges? To my knowledge there were only bitparking, moonco.in, ruxum, solidcoin24 and btc-e. Bitparking is not doing it. Moonco.in is highly unlikely. I can't see Ruxum being keen on doing an alternate currency again. So that leaves solidcoin24 and btc-e. What other former exchange were there?

Solidcoin24 is also highly unlikely due to Julian's choice of the "official" solidcoin.

This talk of actually throwing power behind a 1.04 fork is kind of dumb IMO.

SC is going to get crushed under the titanic weight of CoinHunter's own hubris.

Best to just let it die.

I won't be touching solidcoin still but I support this idea!

RealSolid (aka CoinHunter) has started claiming that the migration to v2.0 is optional. In my last post on the Solidcoin forums I said I wanted to support the old blockchain. I asked for the v1.04 source to be released without any of the special license provisions that were added. My post was deleted and my account banned. I guess that's a no.

I have a question.  Why is the difficulty so high?  Why am I not able to mine amazingly fast?  Confirmations are coming in very slowly. 

Difficulty adjusts every 240 blocks. There's still 140 blocks to go before the difficulty can come down. That could take another week or two. And even then it'll only drop to 1/4 what it currently is now.

Didn't Solidcoin have sooper diff adjust ?

Well that explains why I only found 1 whole block today. I'll go back to mining it in a couple weeks.

Let's fork Bitcoin again and base it off the old Solidcoin block chain. Fuck it, why not? SC2.0 copies the coins from the old block chain. It doesn't move them. Everyone who decides to use both will now have 2x the coins. Infact, let's just call it Solidcoin 3.0. Not having that idiot RealSolid involved is a clear upgrade.

I thought Solidcoin had a minimum time for difficulty adjustment. 

"SOLID COIN VERSION 1.04 TO CONTINUE"

Good idea.
5+ G/s is mining solidcon so it is not "shut down" or "discontinued" or what ever this bozo tandem of Coinhunter/RealSolid is telling you.

Start mining and lets get this show on the road.  :)

Can you recommend me a pool?

5Gh/s is a start, but it really needs to go back over 100GH/s to be taken even slightly seriously. To get that kind of support, we cannot rely on the old v1.04 client. I asked for the v1.04 source to be released without the special license provisions, and my Solidcoin forum account was banned. I am still in favor of forking the original Bitcoin source again, and just continuing the Solidcoin chain, and calling it Solidcoin v3.0.

The Bitcoin source is all that is tried and true, so I say we just stick hard to that. No unsafe freestyle coding like that idiot RealSolid is doing. He just makes shit up as he goes without really thinking about it. To make things worse, he talks about ways he has solved certain problems, but then you check the source code and realize he lied about the whole thing.

You can solo mine just as well since the Gh/s is so low. You will get a couple blocks a day. Personally, I've stopped mining Solicoin completely. In a couple weeks, if the difficulty is low enough, I might go back to it.

https://github.com/jackjack-jj/soldcoin

Nice. Is this based of Bitcoin 0.3.24?

Is this based off the Solidcoin source, or the Bitcoin source? I highly suggest using the Bitcoin source. You don't want to get caught up with RealSolid's bullshit license additions. Also, 0.3.25 is beta. If you want to be taken seriously, stick with the stable version.

The way RealSolid rapidly releases bug ridden garbage is shameful. I would never trust my money to unreliable crapware. Let's not repeat this idiot's mistakes.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=41345.0

Damn, it's based off Solidcoin again.

2 way to go about it. Fix 1.04 or write a new one.
I am not a programmer so I can not help you. You need to talk to jackjack. He fixed some of the RealSolid's shit in this version.
I think it still needs a so called "time travel" fix but the code is readily available. Can someone apply the fix and set a new version to... 1.05?

Steve, is it you buddy?

Yeah it's Friday and still not taken off google.... what's up with BitcoinExpress? :D  I wonder how many lies this guy needs to tell before some people realize he is full of hot air, mostly due to his overclocked Geforce 2MX mining army.

CoinHumper, beating you in a bullshit spreading on shit a sandwich is hard. He needs to really work on this.


 

Hold on hold on.

Why hasn't the "Community" thrown YOU out yet?

Do you still plan to attack Namecoin, an established alt blockchain, just because you feel like it or was that just complete bullshit?

You said that after that you would come after Solidcoin. I guess one way to do that would be to try to confuse users into thinking the old chain was still valid and stop them using the new chain, but um. Good luck with that.

Your claim that you are going to develop a new version of Solidcoin and somehow pull a "couple of devs" out of thin air is laughable enough, but then you say to make your new coin you are going to hack the old blockchain and remove certain blocks? Have you thought through the consiquences of these actions? Have you any idea how much of a douchebag you seem when you say stupid shit like this? Clearly not or you wouldn't be posting here.

Also you claim to be able to "take a site off Google" by "talking to your friends from work". Pure fantasy. You don't have any friends or a job, let alone at Apple. Sheesh. Why some other idiots on this board (maybe your other accounts?) are eating up your garbage and why your account on here is still active I couldn't really say, but it's pretty funny to read your posts I guess...

You want to hear the ideas? Here's one, grow the fuck up and stop being a compulsive liar and all-around asshole.

Old news ... keep up with the times :P

Actually which is the correct version that should be used once SC is up again?  1.04 or 2? 

What do you mean by "once SC is up again"? SLC network is up at the moment. You can transfer and mine the coin right now.




 
 

Isn't Coinhunter going to re-issue coins based on block 35,250?  Therefore, any trades after that block will be reversed?  I think that's what he means by "once SC is up again."

Indeed. the "Shut down" such as it was, was purely voluntary. You are free to use 1.04 blockchain if you wish and always have been, but there are no exchanges set up to trade your coins on that chain so you will have a hard time doing anything with them. Also that chain has a very low hash rate and is vulnerable to 51% hashrate attacks and time travel attacks exactly the same as Bitcoin is, so I would not recommend using it with people like Dan threatening to attack it.

In 2.0 the chain is new and a completely different hash from the old chain, but if you held an address on 1.04 you will receive a balance of coins equal to what you had on the previous chain, so it is effectively a continuation of your Solidcoin balance from block 35250.

No, it wasn't voluntary.  It's already been addressed umpteen times that it was and is mandatory.  CH has threatened to 'no longer support' anyone who still uses the first chain, like SC24.

Quit with this "voluntary" bullshit. No where in the shutdown post did it say it was voluntary. I asked on the Solidcoin forum for the v1.04 source to be released without license restriction, and my post was promptly deleted and my account banned.

Is coinhuner's support a good thing now?

is supporting  a man who costs people a ton of time and money to feed his pathetic ego, the right thing to do either?


no not coinhunter.. btcexpress.


Now their is a huge conflict on interest letting him stay on the forums as he develops his own coin while attacking the others.


How many times are we going to let him attack the largest best exchange for the alternative currencies?

Bwuahahaha.  That's classic.

Did they double-dose your kool-aid?

johnj

do you think doubleC made money when his exchanges were closed down by bitcoin express?

do you have a comment with any content? we can go head to head if you can actually form a thought.

How about the people who had their coins locked away from them, so they couldnt trade? You know you can make more money trading than mining?


It isnt koolaid to recognize reality. besides go look for the thread who has a bigger ego bitcoinexpress or coinhunter... bitcoinexpress wins by a land slide, so more people agree with me.

besides he is planning to restart up his attack on namecoin and has threatened bitparking that he is going to take them down as well.

yeah koolaid man.

You might just want to actually look in your cup, as that isnt brew in there.

1) Coinhunter made a chain, shut down the chain, made a new chain, pregened a million coins, and taxes miners. Sure does sound like the "stable" BTC alternative!
2) BitX has already said that wasn't him on your forums.  Sorry you got trolled so hard.
3) DoubleC is a grown person who understands the risks he takes.  Unlike other SC proponents who run to CH to be babysat. Gee, let me mine harder to pay back the stupid fucks who put all their SC/BTC in with a dude with no credibility. No no, I don't need any kool-aid too.
4) We went 'head to head'.  You already lost.

Thanks for playing.

what makes the whole saga even more funny is this: almost no one really has a problem with a solidcoin as a alternative coin.
 Most, except ~30 not so bright individuals who OD'd on freshly squeezed kool-aid, are having a problem with this retarded monkey who calls himself a "lead developer" of solidcoin - Coinhunter/RealSolid.
Remove this CoinHunter/Realsolid freakshow from the equation and you have a coin that can have a bright future.
Keep this mentally unstable joker around an you all get shafted sooner or ... no, wait...you already did get fucked! Solidcoin2 has a fucking tax!

Harshly put but absolutely correct.

The tax is the best part of Solidcoin 2.0, it goes to a community fund which will pay for projects to keep Solidcoin growing and growing. Deciding where the taxes get spent is the part that most SolidCoin users are excited about.

Whether or not you like RealSolid as a person, he's a skilled coder and seems to genuinely have the interests of the users of his coin at heart. Unlike the selfish motives of others who start coins purely so they can pre-mine at low difficulty at the beginning and keep the coins for themselves.

Hey, just because your sheep are excited to get sheared doesn't mean the guy with the clippers is doing them a favor ;)

Yes, clearly he has the interests of his users at heart.
That's why they get banned for posting questions.

 There is so much stupidity in these two paragraphs, I'm not sure where to really start taking apart your logic, but I will say that if you think Realsolid is a skilled coder, you have obviously never met real skilled coders, and are in no position to judge one's technical abilities.

Haters gonna hate. 2.0 will prove you all wrong.

http://i53.tinypic.com/211tfdt.jpg
Powerful "Oh, Yeah!" battle cry strikes fear into the heart of villains.

This is an interesting idea, but ultimately flawed. It destroys the use of Solidcoin for small transactions. The same goes for a fixed rate transaction fee. These do not work in a deflationary environment. RealSolid claims that the fixed transaction is "floating", but this is a blatant lie. The fee is hard coded in the source. Another big problem is that there is no way to ensure that the tax will be used towards the interests of the users. RealSolid might just decide he wants to take the whole pie one day. The very aspect of a tax that goes to a specific set of individuals completely defeats the decentralized nature of the currency.


RealSolid has repeatedly demonstrated that he is not skilled at all. His first few releases were virtually untested and bug ridden. He implements large changes without serious thought or a test phase. He takes shortcuts in his code, and lies about its shortcomings. Solidcoin cannot be taken seriously with this kind of leadership.


I believe that he has some interest of the users at heart, but I question how genuine it is, and how he will go about it. He also does not have the social skills required to get people behind him.

RealSolid is an egotistical and emotionally driven person. His sense of judgement and morals goes out the window when he is challenged. It is well known that I have been rude and critical to him both in the IRC channel, and the forum. I created the first SolidcoinFaucet. I was refused the bounty for the first faucet, and he never updated the website; instead he allowed other users to create faucets thinking they would be first and eligible for the bounty. RealSolid started stating that the shutdown of v1.04 was optional when I began questioning it. I stated in the forum that I wanted to opt to continue development of the old client, and asked that he release the source without any of his "special" license provisions. My post was promptly deleted, and my account banned.

Solidcoin v2.0 will be heavily premined, and will have a tax. If Solidcoin somehow really took off, I would not trust RealSolid to keep his hand out of the cookie jar.

Wasn't coinhunter or realsolid(or whom ever runs solidcoin.info) supposed to release the new 2.0 like last week?

I don't see 1.04 continuing any more than I see 2.0 coming out.
Looks like both of you are dropping the ball :D

If the exchange is fair, people will use it.
Hell mooncoin looked shady as hell and people used it anyway.
I used it successfully even.
He who leaves large numbers of *coins on an exchange, asks for trouble.

You are the cancer that killed steve jobs and sc 1.

 :-[

Gee some people have no decency.
You'd mention Steve Jobs on the day he dies with reference to a complete SCAMMER called CoinHunter.
Man - you are an ass hole.

I never mentioned CoinHunter.

You guys are the ones with hard ons for the guy. I thought there already was an open source client created from 1.03 before the license change? Youre going to invalidate those coins as well?

By making all these threads about solidcoin you seem to promote what you hate. Maybe you have shitloads of solidcoins which would explain your constant promotions ?

Go out side and do something productive or at least open the curtains and let the sun in.

Maybe it's because you sound even cockier and more arrogant than CoinHunter. 

Well I wouldn't like to hang out with you in your basement.

I didn't know Real Solid killed Steve.

That would explain why BTCEx dislikes RS

You got something personal with me son ?