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I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

I had a bad experience hodling. Initially I used to research for good coins and hodled them till it doomed. Recently tried short term trade and good with it.

HODLING becomes risky only in coins which are just new in the market but if you are holding established coins already like the ethereum, xrp, etc, or lisk, the risk in holding for years are not that big than holding a new coin in town. You should trade it than hold it for long term.

We have different expertise. Some may be a good trader and some definitely a good hodler. There are times we make mistakes because of inadequate wisdom. I may agree that there are still coins that are being useless in the future and are not worth to hodl for. It's true that whitepapers are also useless because they can be copied. Nice analysis, bud.

The easiest way to not lose money is to actually invest your money into coins that's been challenge through time but still there, people buying it and it's still marketable. Dont waste money on projects that has no transparency. Investing is not bad it's the coin that your investing into.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

And we have more than 1600 coin now on market. And even 1000-1500 will be created in 2018. Almost everyday i see up to 3 new airdrops/icos. Its very hard to predict which of them will succed in years.

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

OP is right when it comes to buying and holding altcoins. Most of them experience a point of hype wither at the beginning when they are being launched or somewhere along the way when the team floods the media with false promises. This is their one and only pump. If you catch the wave you're lucky, if not, your money is gone.
That said, I'm a Bitcoin holder and I will defend this strategy. Sure, if I knew what price it will land on, I would have sold and bought some more cheaper, but holding makes you detached from the market in a way. I don't have to check the price daily, I don't have to worry about anything. My investment is giving me passive income, without the need for any action and without any risk. There's no risk because my investment is already worth over 20 times more than it was in 2015.

I do not think there is any particular risk in holding because if you hold long enough, you will gradually see value increase on your holding no matter what happen in short to medium term,  Long term always wins!

It means that now you are not risking your investment. Now you are risking 20 times more than you invested in 2015:) I would love to be on your place but it must be also hard (1 lambo, 2 lambo, 3 lambo, 1 lambo) :). This topic was made for newbies who enters the cryptoworld and see advices from society "if you are newbie than chose good coins and hodl till profit, its safer than trading". I wanted to say that hodling might be even riskier. Profit also goes with risk. You took huge risk in 2015 and now you have huge profit. Hats off :)

Hodling was good strategy for 2012 - 2018 period. Everyone who enters the market must know that it is not quarantee that it will be good for next 6 years for every coin that you consider is good.

Every move you make in life means taking a risk. I'll do a little comparison to help you understand my point.
I'm holding, my coins are in crypto because I don't trust my government and want to have a safe stash in case something goes wrong, like a war, bailouts, country wide crisis, or  anything that will result in the government trying to seize my money, like my personal bankruptcy or debt. I don't care about short term value of my coins and know my investment is safer than in a bank.

You are trading, juggling your coins between addresses and exchanges. You're risking compromising your keys, need to worry about the security of your computer, network, the exchange that you're using. You waste time monitoring the price every single day, you set alarms to tell you about sudden movements. Sometimes they wake you up at night. And what about the indicators? What if you buy or sell at a trap? What if you buy and there's an unexpected price move like the one by MtGox trustee? You sell at a loss?
Don't get me wrong, you may be making money on this, most likely more money than I'm making holding my coins, but that's just your way. It's by no means safer or better than my way.

Holding has nothing to do with getting scammed by an ICO, because if it is not legit you will be screwed over from the moment you invest in it because it won't even make it till the point where it is going to be listed on exchange sites, so your point of you is somewhat wrong, however holding an ICO token could have many risks as many people tend to trade them as soon as they hit the exchange, in fear of its price rapidly going down, but some good ICOs are actually worth holding for a long time sometimes.

I do not think there is any particular risk in holding because if you hold long enough, you will gradually see value increase on your holding no matter what happen in short to medium term,  Long term always wins!

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

Trading must have a risk and as we know that when someone tries to trade he / she has agreed to accept any risk that could happen. Strategy in trading will definitely determine what we will get. Usually there are two things that are the simplest of waiting in some time or doing Day trading. all the strategies in my opinion is a very good thing and worth a try. what distinguishes is how we are in responding to all existing conditions. Data movement in the world of crypto is very fast, we must be smart to take decisions and see what opportunities are possible to obtain.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

I had a bad experience hodling. Initially I used to research for good coins and hodled them till it doomed. Recently tried short term trade and good with it.

You are trading, juggling your coins between addresses and exchanges. You're risking compromising your keys, need to worry about the security of your computer, network, the exchange that you're using.

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Lol, actually at some point we have all ended up having that bad experience but really you cannot blame anyone who is into holding because it is simply hard to understand the movement of the market if you are not a learned trader and you would not want to be gambling your position as that can actually give room for more mistakes and make you lose more.

This personally made me to go through serious trading lessons on my own and it took so much time to get it right and a whole lot worth it as it is far better than just holding through. Trends will always change in between, and it is best to always take advantage of those trend fluctuations.

trading risk and risk holding more risk hold, because if you hold it you can hold the coin that you hold will run delist so it will make you loss if coin mean too long.

Only shit coins can get delisted and may end up making you bag hold for a very long time but you would want to be smart even as a holder anyway. In this market, everything is risky. Trading is risky because the market is extremely volatile and without knowledge and being cautious, you will end up getting screwed which you would end up even losing much more but with great knowledge, you certainly get the best of it.

All the above, holding is easy, as all you need is to do research on what you are holding, believe in the long term, forget about the mid fluctuations and come back in that long term to see how you have done. For holding, we do not need any big strategies and it may sound simple but definitely highly effective one.

Hodler also need to worry about the security of his computer.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

Holding is somehow safer than trading but in business the higher the risk the higher the return always play out. To make really money and big profits from cryptocurrencies you must  take higher risk and this higher risk exist in margin and speculative trading. I see many investors make great profits from margin at poloniex and 1fox. However, holders has also make and loss their investments especially now that bitcoin and others coins price are not stable.

That is not the strategy of the holder really. At least I am not looking after the whitepaper and stuff because I never invest in the ICO and then make holdings of those ICO tokens which are not even listed over the market.

I always hold those coins which are already listed in the market and are in good positions. These mostly includes coins from the list of Top 50 coins and some from beyond that. But only those who are getting good daily volume will be in my list for sure.

This makes the HODL very easy and way beyond perfect and risk free.

It's just much healthier to trade. Holding in crypto can be a really hard mental task, even more than trading. When trading, as long as you are doing it right, you always set a stop loss, you know that even if you fail 1 or 2 trades, you only lose a set % of money, you can even lose 5 trades, 10, 20, it doesn't matter as long as you are using a good risk reward ratio.

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inherently both have risk holding and trading as per the market conditions so we cant completely reply on holding for long-term and trading for long-term

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

At this point, I think you should only trade short-term by day and should not invest too much into bitcoin, the market is fluctuating continuously and is in the bearish cycle so invest in this risky point. will be very high and you can lose a very heavy losses if bitcoin prices fall deep.

with the current market conditions you are not going to be able to make a huge amount of money, that is the main reason of why trading on this kind of markets is good if you want profit

I had a bad experience hodling. Initially I used to research for good coins and hodled them till it doomed. Recently tried short term trade and good with it.

Lol, actually at some point we have all ended up having that bad experience but really you cannot blame anyone who is into holding because it is simply hard to understand the movement of the market if you are not a learned trader and you would not want to be gambling your position as that can actually give room for more mistakes and make you lose more.

This personally made me to go through serious trading lessons on my own and it took so much time to get it right and a whole lot worth it as it is far better than just holding through. Trends will always change in between, and it is best to always take advantage of those trend fluctuations.

In these days there is no risk in holding besides if you sell your holding then you will lose your money due to fall in the price. if you have trading experience and can trade positively then you should not just hold your coins, because you can make more money from trading. More time over the internet and knowledge about the market trend is valuable for traders.

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

Risk of holding established coins is smaller. You are still risking 100% of your investment too but with much less probability. But there is still vatious of risks. Lisk for example is contiously postoninig every think they promise. Team must be inexperienced though. You also throw here ETC, ETH, LSK - they all provide platworm for smartcontracts daps ets. In my opinion after years from now only 1 of them will survive. There is no need of 3x google or 3x youtube. And there is very high risk that the one who will surviewe after years wont be one of those tree because there is EOS STELLAR and dozens more. And few more new are beeing created every month.

ETH - as you see every succesed token (EOS BNB VEN) in leaving eth to jump on theirs own blockchain. ETH is not that scalable to hold even 1 huge project that reach mass adoption. And there are houndres of tokens on it.

Market looks different now. And will look different in next years. Hodling was the best strategy for 2012-2018 period. But there is no guarantee that it will be for 2018-2024 period. Perhaps it will be the best strategy for 2018-2020 and the worst for 2020-2024 for 99% of coins and still good for 1% of coins. We dont know it. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Trading and Hodling is having similar risk for me, so the key is on risk management. If in hodling, the risk is higher but the opportunity to get bigger profit is also higher. This is different thing to be treated properly, if a hodler just to put the money after all assessment and leave it for 1 year or 2 years. But for trader, he/she should always monitor the chart and surroundings frequently for analyze further.

it seems the risk of holding back and trading strategy that I use to not too much risk atatu very high risk I usually do daily trading method, because with daily trading you are not too afraid for the risk that will come because daily trading only take advantage with little distance.

Yes, I agree, there a few risks involved in buying and just holding coins.

I think you always need to be involved and follow the news about the coins you bought to know exactly where the price will go in the near future.

The average lifetime of coins is about 1.5 years, you need to make sure you're holding the correct coins at the right time.

Technical analysis makes you able to take good decisions about profitable trading. There are no big risks in holding but the only disadvantage of holding is that you cannot make money in short time. Holding needs long time to earn some money, while trading on daily basis can give you huge profits in short time if you have experience and knowledge of trading.

Both trading and holding have their complications. It's hard to say which one is more risky. With the market fluctuating as much as it has, I would debate that holding would have a few more complications than trading. With holding and the market falling as often as it has it would be difficult and time consuming to make a profit off of it.

Financial investment is always quite risky and investment in the market cryptocurrency as well. Trading and keeping in this market has its own advantages and disadvantages, it is important for investors to know what strengths they have to choose the right investment form.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"
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your right when you hold your investment and sell it at the right time less mistakes, i'm not agree trading much more possible to lose moneybecause if they have knowledge and skills this is way to avoid loses, lack of skills and are way to become lose your investment.



Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

please note that investing in the world of crypto will give us the opportunity to gain enormous profits and success .

it seems that everything has a very high risk and terrible you but I think for new players better play long term by holding way to be more secure and not too dangerous. do not let you sell the coin you have at a cheap price.

That only applies to market movers and a small number of people. Most people will never gain anything from crypto, especially not if you look at their long term results. It's all negative.

Don't forget that there where some people manage to book massive gains, there are a lot people directly losing significantly. Your gains are other people their losses, that's how this market works.

Short term mentality tends to work against you. I don't even think we can talk about trading or investing anymore with how people go nuts on everything. It's actually more like gambling.

Hodler also need to worry about the security of his computer.


Im sceptical to trends. Maybe becouse every asset i entered in uptrend it break it after few days to go to downtrend for weeks (my experience with trends U can have oposit). Trends are telling you that now we are moving up. But it dasnt tell you when it will change. And it can change everyday. Thats why i decidet to never invest only by trendlines. I rather try to find assets relatively cheap (if today something is cheap it dasnt mean that it is also cheap tommorow with the same price). For example if something was worth 100$ yesterday and 70$ today ill call it cheep. If price will stop at this price for next few days its normal price not cheap anymore. If it dasnt bounce perhaps it wont (very short term investments). For longterm investments i rather look for FA instead of TA.

Controllers should solve this problem because hackers are everywhere in the world and can hack your computer as well. If individually people get worry about their personal data then nobody will invest in online business. Crypto is online and we should be careful about our computer data and for that management can play vital role in this regard.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

Yes I agree. I agree that to become trader  is more better and useful than holding it for long time. In Holder yes you have good analysis and good hopes for it but what if the coin you hold fails you? Right? In trading you earned money everyday or weekly not that a lot of money but atleast there are $700 weekly.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

it seems that everything has a very high risk and terrible you but I think for new players better play long term by holding way to be more secure and not too dangerous. do not let you sell the coin you have at a cheap price.

Basically I think the risk of holding and trading is the  individuals choice,if am holding a coin,i might decide to sell because I have seen a better opportunity else where I can make more profit,but may not panick when a dip comes,

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

You are right OP, and i also think investing in cryptocoins is always a risk, either if people trade daily or even if they hold, no one can guarantee a profit in a period of time, and sometimes can be a stresfull situation if people need money invested before get profit and can result a loss.

it is not something that needs to be analyzed if indeed the holders have a greater risk than investors, because investors have bought coins far cheaper than the holders

I can comprehend that in a market, costs change, yet at various circumstances. What's more, when you make numerous buys to make a benefit, your danger of losing cash is more prominent than purchasing and holding, until the point when the cost builds enough to make a benefit. In any case, this isn't generally the case.There will be times when costs fall profound and are probably not going to recoup. To be fruitful all relies upon your judgment.

absolutely right but despite the huge risks to the traders who hold the coins the income that is earned from the profits is large also equal to the risk that will be obtained

The risk is always there in every investments, and holding is more risky when you don't know what future may bring to your asset. Having different strategies might be worthless when you picked that wrong coin. Scrutinize more often rather than picking without knowing deeply what coins you're risking to buy and hold.

Trading is quicker to make a profit if you examine faster in market analysis, and hold more risk because the coins we hold can be delisted by Exchange.

But holding the famous Altcoin like Ethereum, TRON, Bitcoin Cash it can generate profits when Altcoins is up, because I'm sure Altcoin is ready to ride again when there is an event.

absolutely right but despite the huge risks to the traders who hold the coins the income that is earned from the profits is large also equal to the risk that will be obtained

I don't find anything risks in holding because if you don't panic for the market situations because there won't be any growth if there is no downfall in the market. For trading, we need to analyse ourselves before investing into any coin and price fluctuation are common.

it is not something that needs to be analyzed if indeed the holders have a greater risk than investors, because investors have bought coins far cheaper than the holders

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

This is vice versa, holding may be more profitable that trading, if we talk about Dec17, people who bought bitcoin or eth or any other popular cryptocurrency would have earned many folds from their original investment  by end of Feb18 but trading could not earn you this much amount even after spending the whole day before live market, I think both holding and trading has their pros and cons, one should have proper plan for both type of investments.

if you haven't found it, then you don't pay enough attention to it. of course there is a risk of holding back. the coin that you hold can be stolen by hakcer. besides, I think you can also get a loss when you hold a coin and the price drops.

trading and holding coins has their own risk, if you hold a coin you could suffer a loss when you hold it and the price goes down, as well as trading you can also experience losses if you miscalculate its predictions, so it depends on which method you prefer.

We're all aware on it since from the start, losses is already a part of being an investor or just a simple holder. We survive until today cause we knew how to make deal on that and besides, many were getting successful cause they never easily give up. Though the risk might change is but must have to face it.

Yes! moreover if we can combine daily trading and holding, of course we can minimize the risk, with a note, we must know which coins are good to hold and which coins are good for daily trading. if it works then we will get big profits easily.

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

Hodling is a great solution, but you do not need to get involved in it and you must set yourself the goal of making a profit in certain numbers to fix and cash out your investments

if you haven't found it, then you don't pay enough attention to it. of course there is a risk of holding back. the coin that you hold can be stolen by hakcer. besides, I think you can also get a loss when you hold a coin and the price drops.

I think the risk is clear, that prices can go down very deep at any time, and of course the coins you hold don't necessarily have a beautiful future because everything is just a prediction and hasn't happened yet, I think you have to understand that risk before starting mate

I never find anything risks in holding but due to the market situation the prices will go down but once the market starts recovering automatically the prices will start increasing. Holding will always give huge money instead of day trading.

I think the risk is clear, that prices can go down very deep at any time, and of course the coins you hold don't necessarily have a beautiful future because everything is just a prediction and hasn't happened yet, I think you have to understand that risk before starting mate

I do not agree to your statement because there are more risks in holding a cryptocurrencies. Most of the holders losses their money because they hold shitcoins. It is hard to know if one specific cryptocurrency is good to hold ot not.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

holding coins has high risk.as we know market moved with high volatility and it could up and down extremely.make sure first that our mental and emotion could be strong to face it.

All of our predictions can greatly affect many people around. I think we should only consider the form of reference because we cannot be sure what will happen in this market and any decision will affect your future.

I never anything risk with the holding, but through trading, it is very tough to make profits because the market situation keeps falling which it is impossible to guess the values. So holding is always the right choice if you don't panic about the market.

Hodling is a great solution, but you do not need to get involved in it and you must set yourself the goal of making a profit in certain numbers to fix and cash out your investments

Risks can be easily minimized, even if you choose to hold, you do not need to leave blindly for a few years, be sure to withdraw your invested money in the first place, trading can also give good results, it is better to choose medium-term signals

There has been a significant amount of debate about which one is better, it is clear to me that if what you want is to get profits in the market and nothing else trading is by far the best choice but as we know the huge problem with trading is that it is very difficult to do it consistently and to earn profits with that strategy because everyone is looking for the very same thing so you are going to face huge adversaries in the form of whales and exchanges.

Holding is a strategy that is safer but unfortunately thanks to the volatility of the market you are going to see your profits evaporate very fast when we are in a bear market and you will need to have patience to wait for the recovery of the market.

Risk in holding is just for the time being which means that you will lose some value but it could also be regained upon appreciation in the cryptocurrency market. Trade when the market is down gives away some permanent losses.

Holding will always be the right choice of making profit in crypto currency trading or investment but there are some certain things (time to enter, exit and choosing the right coin) ones must keep in check in other to make profit and this are what make holding to be risk as was said by OP. However, making profit in terms of trading in this current market is also not tough if ones can also put in check the method I mentioned earlier.

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

trading in crypto is already risky for your money all of this strategy will have a plan to loss your money even your funds is big to start.

not if you trade properly and correctly. patience, strategizing and finding opportunities will definitely not lose. The loss is only for people who are careless and greedy because their minds only get money without thinking of losing or not important selling.

trading in crypto is already risky for your money all of this strategy will have a plan to loss your money even your funds is big to start.

All of our predictions can greatly affect many people around. I think we should only consider the form of reference because we cannot be sure what will happen in this market and any decision will affect your future.

Trading and holding are used for making money but different kind of people,when someone have money but want returns in the long run they will invest on the cryptos and hold longer but when people interested to make money always by buying and selling using the different tactics to get used to the condition.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

right, I agree with your research. hold more risk when compared with trading. but if we decide to trade then we must focus and provide a lot of time to always monitor the development of prices, so we can sell and buy in a timely manner.

Make no mistake, there are risks in both. Actually, both have advantages and disadvantages. However, both have different skill level needed, patience, hardwork, and so on. When it comes to HODLing, there is not much analyses needed as compared to active trading. HODLing is basically much better with long term. But then you will have to endure the painful sight everytime the market passes through the bear season. On the other hand, day trading involves a lot of strategies and techniques and analyses that you will actively make use of every single day.

When you are holding coins, you need a lot of patience and dont listen to fud. If its possible not to look at the price daily, go ahead, so that you will not be affected when you see the price of coin going down. Looking at the price might give you a reason to think and sell. But, be careful not to overlook the status of the coin, because you might be holding a coin that will soon be delisted in the exchange site.

When you are holding coins, you need a lot of patience and dont listen to fud. If its possible not to look at the price daily, go ahead, so that you will not be affected when you see the price of coin going down. Looking at the price might give you a reason to think and sell. But, be careful not to overlook the status of the coin, because you might be holding a coin that will soon be delisted in the exchange site.

Trading and holding are used for making money but different kind of people,when someone have money but want returns in the long run they will invest on the cryptos and hold longer but when people interested to make money always by buying and selling using the different tactics to get used to the condition.

well, basically we wait for a very high price, and we don't know how long that will happen. therefore patience is very risky when you need money, and sell it at a low price. however, when you hold a coin, you must have a strategy that is able to cover the shortcomings when the price drops, and when you need money.

well, basically we wait for a very high price, and we don't know how long that will happen. therefore patience is very risky when you need money, and sell it at a low price. however, when you hold a coin, you must have a strategy that is able to cover the shortcomings when the price drops, and when you need money.

Like I said, you need a plan and the plan contains financial management that you make, what is the right allocation of funds to invest, back up funds, and finance for daily needs, so that you will not be confuse between holding back and paying for needs

Make proper plan that you will hold until then and you will spend that but the best is not to spend anything because we can fulfil our needs with some other kind of paper money but font waste your saving in this regard. I am  Holding because I did not find any risk  in holding but my trading strategy is to trade for long term.

I recommend using both strategies for trading to allocate about 20-30% of its capital, and the rest of the holding and periodically fix profit

There is a huge risk involved in it if you don't hold the active development coins because no development will always lead to decrease their price. That's why before investing we have to choose the right coin for the holding because when we active developments from the team will help the coin to increase its price.

these two things can be an advantage when you use them well, especially having a good strategy. well, but you're right, even having a good strategy, it's still risky. the virtue in this case is patience.

trading risk and risk holding more risk hold, because if you hold it you can hold the coin that you hold will run delist so it will make you loss if coin mean too long.

Holding means taking your coin in a long-time it's kind of risky for me but lot of holders get earn lot of money by their own predictions but now holding for me is not okay to take in this time at now altcoins get decreasing all their prices so its not safe for me.

Holding means taking your coin in a long-time it's kind of risky for me but lot of holders get earn lot of money by their own predictions but now holding for me is not okay to take in this time at now altcoins get decreasing all their prices so its not safe for me.

Just make sure to watch what you hold because some coins are very bad in long hodl day trading and just buying low and selling high are the top strategies touse and get your head out with crypto

Just make sure to watch what you hold because some coins are very bad in long hodl day trading and just buying low and selling high are the top strategies touse and get your head out with crypto

Trading and holding is has the same high risk so we should be have risk management for that. Also we have to know the situation and the trend of market before decide to start holding, and actually its now best time to start holding because all crypto was dump hard.

Just make sure to watch what you hold because some coins are very bad in long hodl day trading and just buying low and selling high are the top strategies touse and get your head out with crypto

Just make sure to watch what you hold because some coins are very bad in long hodl day trading and just buying low and selling high are the top strategies touse and get your head out with crypto

I think it's a little different. the risk of holding back is, when you hold a coin from 2017 to the present. we don't know when prices will go down, and go up. while trading is taking advantage of the increase in the price of coins without the need to hold back for long.

im sure that all hodlers already sold most of their hoding on 2017 because that is the only year where cryptocurrencies pump too much  but even if you still hodl your coin , there is still a high chance that you can earn more than what have already earned on the year 2017 because crypto are said to be verry expensive on the future when the adoption is already became a widespread . trading on the other hand is not effective at all times because most of the times the market is dump  . traders do prefer to hodl too  .

Holding for a long period of time is also a big risk in trading while you are invested sell it quickly and make income and make again investment this strategy will be useful for most of the people then the long time holding will not be profitable.

Holding for a long period of time is also a big risk in trading while you are invested sell it quickly and make income and make again investment this strategy will be useful for most of the people then the long time holding will not be profitable.

So i think holding is better than trading now a day because as you are saying in trading you will be able to sell at anytime you see price is down but you really need fine information about treading you will have to be trading expert to have profit in day trading, holding will be good as you will not be worry about market price fall and decentralization.

Tether is an example of an altcoin that you can expect, regardless of the profit you get, they have a level that remains stable on the coin. For certain coins such as ADA, it is better to focus on buying as a fixed asset. risk is a must, but we still have to think of a two-way method to profit.

Hodling without any risk management  is very risky because just like current  situation all altcoin dumped hard more than 90%, alot of investor loss much money because just hold the coin without any management of risk and money.  Both way trading and hodl is good way to make huge profit in crypto  market  if we understand the trend of market and we have risk management. 

Having knowledge of market trends will be very profitable for traders in the crypto currency market.
if they do not know the trends that occur in the market, they will only throw away their money because the price situation is very frequent.

Hodling definitely has its risks. Starting from losing 90% of your wallets value in a bear market to losing your funds because of a scam or a hack. The last point is especially true if someone holds their tokens on an exchange or a mobile wallet that might not be the most legit one. You could even lose your funds from a trusted wallet if your devices get compromised by reckless behavior on the internet. It is essential to protect your devices and put the best security measures in place. Using hardware wallets or smartphones dedicated specially for cryptocurrencies, like the Wings WX smartphone by BitWings, greatly reduce the risk of losing your funds due to viruses or hackers. Stay safe out there!

True that! One of my pals recently lost his crypto from his mobile wallet due to a virus (he must have clicked the link to get his millions from that Nigerian prince or something). I found the article about the Wings WX on this forum yesterday, seems like a solid phone. Haven't seen such security features on a phone before. If anyone's interested, the thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110359 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110359)

I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

I think now at this juncture it is wise to have multi pronged approach, bot for HOLDING and also TRADING coins. We need to make sure we are primed and ready for a bull run cycle and also day trade to take general profits along the way, so there is a balance. If you only day trade for instant small gains or hold coins and tokens only for long term hope of appreciation, then you might be losing out on potential upside gains along the way, both for the short term and the long term. We are making our way out of the bear cycle by doing both day trading and also long term holding so this way we can slowly grow again to the point when there is a next bull cycle , we can then hatch the golden eggs, but until then also be earning.

With holding the risk is very small, because all that required is keep our assets more secure. With holding patience is the must and it gives only long term profiting. With trading it isn't that easy to earn big, but it provides a much bigger earning compared to the one earned through holding. It requires better trading knowledge as well the mind to observe the market, because even a small variation needs to be used to profit.

Having knowledge of market trends will be very profitable for traders in the crypto currency market.
if they do not know the trends that occur in the market, they will only throw away their money because the price situation is very frequent.

So i think holding is better than trading now a day because as you are saying in trading you will be able to sell at anytime you see price is down but you really need fine information about treading you will have to be trading expert to have profit in day trading, holding will be good as you will not be worry about market price fall and decentralization.

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

all their judgments are wrong. That evidence is the collapse of crypto in 2018. Bitcoins fell from $ 20k to $ 3k3. And is that considered a good hold strategy? they were wrong!
Our market is always volatile and we need to be vigilant. We need stop-loss orders to prevent losses.
Hold will only make us lose everything or lose a lot.

For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl

The best strategy is just to hold, you won't see any issue if you believe on the coins you are investing.
If you are for long term investing, you should act accordingly because if you fail to implement your strategy, there's no chance for you to be successful.
I usually see people who are saying weak hands will dump, well that's true because in my life as an investor, I was also a weak hands.

For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

People who do not have risk taking capacity should ideally be away because their is a huge chance of making losses as crypto is being very volatile. If people do not have patience it will lead to panic selling and in the end they will make losses for them self.

When you want to be a Hodler, you have to be very confident about a coin. Without confidence, we will suffer losses, because if we choose the wrong coin, we will experience regret. While trading will be much safer, this is because trading is usually done in the not too distant future. In trading we try to gain momentum to find the margin between the price of buying and selling coins that we have.

totally agreed. holding ICO tokens of a silent project is one-way-ticket...

Everything is very risky here in crypto. The reward differrence of two is that trading will only give you a small percentage of profit but holding can give 100x - 1kx of return in the future and we are talking about 2-3 years of span. Holding not really go well for 5-10 years because it can be surpassed by a new brand that has a better marketing and latest system.

Hodling was supposed to be a sure way of making profit in the cryptocurrency market or in any other similar market. But as we have noticed in recent times, it is a strategy that has not worked for some existing investors whom the market is still currently against. The risk involve in this strategy is that there is no certainty to the existence of cryptocurrency and likewise, there is no prediction to how high the market can grow or to how low it can fall.
But on a final note, hodling is a risk worth taking in trading, when you have a low entry point.

when you trade at least you already have a risk that will make you fall poor, but you can also become rich, all the risks that will occur in the cryptocurrency can occur and no one provides a guarantee that can always benefit.

Everything is very risky here in crypto. The reward differrence of two is that trading will only give you a small percentage of profit but holding can give 100x - 1kx of return in the future and we are talking about 2-3 years of span. Holding not really go well for 5-10 years because it can be surpassed by a new brand that has a better marketing and latest system.

Hodling was supposed to be a sure way of making profit in the cryptocurrency market or in any other similar market. But as we have noticed in recent times, it is a strategy that has not worked for some existing investors whom the market is still currently against. The risk involve in this strategy is that there is no certainty to the existence of cryptocurrency and likewise, there is no prediction to how high the market can grow or to how low it can fall.
But on a final note, hodling is a risk worth taking in trading, when you have a low entry point.

it is true that the so-called traders and investors of the crypto world would have succeeded if they would have brought us all fast and poor too fast. so crypto risk is indeed great as well as the benefits we will get are also large in proportion to the risk

Everything is very risky here in crypto. The reward differrence of two is that trading will only give you a small percentage of profit but holding can give 100x - 1kx of return in the future and we are talking about 2-3 years of span. Holding not really go well for 5-10 years because it can be surpassed by a new brand that has a better marketing and latest system.

People who do not have risk taking capacity should ideally be away because their is a huge chance of making losses as crypto is being very volatile. If people do not have patience it will lead to panic selling and in the end they will make losses for them self.

For the current conditions I myself prefer to sell and hold coins according to price movements, meaning that if the price is rising high then sell the coin and if you feel that the coins you hold are not too good then hold on.

One thing that I know of is when I started with Bitcoin, price is at 3 digits only and now its 4 digits, it even wen't as high as 5 digits. Holding your coins maybe dangerous if you don't look at the price everyday because you will not know if its the time to buy or its the time to sell. Just like what happened last December 2017, some says they should have sold when it reached ATH when they look at the price of Bitcoin now.

One thing that I know of is when I started with Bitcoin, price is at 3 digits only and now its 4 digits, it even wen't as high as 5 digits. Holding your coins maybe dangerous if you don't look at the price everyday because you will not know if its the time to buy or its the time to sell. Just like what happened last December 2017, some says they should have sold when it reached ATH when they look at the price of Bitcoin now.

HOLDING is actually one of the most terrible idea especially if you dont study the project so well i remember holding almost 500$ and then turning into actually nothing at the end of the day with the devs complaining and blaming the bearish market so just know what to actually Hodl

I guess not. Holding is not a sure way of gaining profit but its a safe way to play with the market's volatility. There is no certain things here in the market when speaking of price and values but one thing is constant and it is the movement from time to time of prices wherein holding becomes risky.

Trading isn't for those who are scared to lose their shit at the same time you must be careful, well it's a complicated matter . Other than bad-mouths we can always rely on holding than risking it for a low price to pull it up after. The pull up strategy is a good one but that doesn't guarantee you to have everything, well there is a saying what can you do if you are already dead, that saying also implies to various things like money or possessions.

I've seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that many mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to lose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Let's discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often suggested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copied and change a little. Faked. I can create my own whitepaper in which ill write that tomorrow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought followers
3- code - who of us can check if code is OK? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- being unique didn't give you certainty of being unique forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamental analyst wrong or didn't do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 won't survive next few years because they are not necessary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happened? Your investment will continuously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I don't think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundamental and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He don't w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he tries to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoploss which is set in his trading strategy. And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He don't fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy opportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he sees opportunity on 5 min candles he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasn't faked. He also don't have chance to learn to invest because after first buy decision there is only hodl

for the risk of trading and holding it is equally large because in trading if we are too panic then it will be a loss as well as indeed if we are impatient and too long to hold it will be a loss too

For this we will have to remain moderate, try to hold when market is low and don’t sell at panic but for holding it is very important to keep our eyes on market, greed is not good when people only hold and hold in wait of increase the profit, they suffer lose, after certain rise when price start getting down, then sell don’t wait for more profit.

I differ greatly in some of the affirmations, hold is not just a recommendation for novices, investment is a strategy that has always had world-class investors, Warren Buffet is not a novice, Tom Williams, Jon Greenblatt, most have been investors and have a great career and have been authors of books that are based on their experiences, giving advice about making investment, which recommend making an investment given a prior investigation of them, whether actions or, in this case, cryptocurrencies. Everyone agrees that you should wait a long time to get benefits, that is, you can become a millionaire over time.

Now, if we take into account the current state of the market, analyzed with the support of the theory of Wyckoff, we are in a phase of accumulation, special to buy and maintain until the bitcoin has its upward stage.

Market speculators can trade, provided they know how to do it in the right direction of the market. The famous Jesse Livermore, a market speculator, always said that he should follow the market line that has least resistance, that is, it can never go against the market.

If your considerations in OP are for ICO projects or new nascent projects, these results may occur, but it is advisable to invest in currencies such as Bitcoin and the coins Top 5 worldwide, since they have a greater structure and confidence.

The processes of speculation and investment will always have their risks, nothing is certain, you should only choose what risk you want to take.

I completely agree with your statement and quite understand that today all activity for a newbie in the cryptocurrency market carries a very big risk. Regardless of whether it is a daily trade or investment in an ico company. Today, the presence of a large number of fraudsters also contributes negatively to the future results of our activities.

HOLDING is actually one of the most terrible idea especially if you dont study the project so well i remember holding almost 500$ and then turning into actually nothing at the end of the day with the devs complaining and blaming the bearish market so just know what to actually Hodl

Yes i think holder strategy is not safe, but the problem is if someone not know when to sell and hold the coins for longer time and the coins not more grow the problem is that maybe that coins not grow in time and if hold can't get any profit.

HODL is the safest strategy according to some observers, because buying then saves until prices rise, then sell and profit. Theoretically is correct, but the problem is when it will increase how long to hold a coin while daily necessities are very urgent.
For trading, I tend to be more fun because of fast circulation, and there are few sales. No need to wait long because trading can be capitalized

I always like the idea of swing trading even while holding.  In the last few months we have seen how many altcoin have left their all time high and dump to an all time low price and holders of those token have been burnt. It is better to be trading it at interval while you hold to avoid massive loss

That's also a good idea as it's possible to make money in long term and short term trade.
However, this is not easy as you think, if you are used to long term holding, you should probably need to adjust as it's hard to find a good timing
in short trading. This can be learn of course, so you effort will pay off if you work hard enough to have a working strategy.

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

HODL is the safest strategy according to some observers, because buying then saves until prices rise, then sell and profit. Theoretically is correct, but the problem is when it will increase how long to hold a coin while daily necessities are very urgent.
For trading, I tend to be more fun because of fast circulation, and there are few sales. No need to wait long because trading can be capitalized

The easiest way to not lose money is to actually invest your money into coins that's been challenge through time but still there, people buying it and it's still marketable. Dont waste money on projects that has no transparency. Investing is not bad it's the coin that your investing into.

Holding will always makes you more profit instead of selling them for loos. We should always wait for the market recovery because it completely depend on the asset you hold. If you don't hold the potential it will defenitely leads you to loose more value in the market. So holding will always helps you to make more profit.

Absolutely, In trading it is must to hold and then make profit. Without holding how could we make profit from trading?
If Holding is risky then we don't need to do trade. But we should keep our mind every business relate with risk and it is base on risk then we make money. So in trading, if we want reward from it then must hold, but only hold these type of coins that you think in future their price will be double or more than it, just like Bitcoin. 

Traders are scared of the risk involved in trading and prefer to keep hodling till the positive movement that will prompt them to sell. Personally, my hodling ability is more stronger than my trading because i lost more when i trade and nothing when i hodl. Actually, there is always a positive result when you HODL.

Trading is not just an easy way to gain profit anyway, it is a different thing in trading and holding. Holding is much safer than trading. Since cryptocurrency is a highly volatile some people grab this opportunity and do trading but if you don't have enough knowledge and skills on this trading you might be loose. So, if you ask me I would love to split my savings, 40% savings and 60% trading, nothing risk if you know how to deal with.

So they cannot make a profit if they are scared to trade because if they dare to trade and they are willing to learn more in trading, then I am sure that they have a chance to get the profit. Besides that, trading will be the way for them to increase the number of every coin they have and not just holding for a long time. With making a trading strategy, we could find a good time to buy and sell, and the best is we could use the chance to make a profit.

The only thing to consider  when holding is the safety of your funds. Since most Hodler are doing long term investment, they have to keep their fund in a safe storage. It's preferable to be a hardware wallet or an open source wallet. Open source if you doesn't hold to much volume, I suggest Electrum for Bitcoin and hodler if you want to invest into multiple coins.

Business is not all about making money all the time. You have to loose money to learn and then make it again to the peak. So those people who cannot go with trading would never make money in trading and would always have to wait for the bull run to make profits which is not every day happening. Eventually these kinds of people either have to enter the trading or leave the market for the pursuit of benefits in other assets.

I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

Business is not all about making money all the time. You have to loose money to learn and then make it again to the peak. So those people who cannot go with trading would never make money in trading and would always have to wait for the bull run to make profits which is not every day happening. Eventually these kinds of people either have to enter the trading or leave the market for the pursuit of benefits in other assets.

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And so holding will be good for those potential coins only but if not, there is no reason to keep them long. I usually sell my tokens coming from bounties and I invested it into the other coins which I may feel profiting.

I am in favor on your analysis, Hodler is more risky than trader, especially when you hold more of some Shitcoin bought in some ICO project... There is no chance of winning of them.. I prepared to trade all my ICO coins when hitted to market, that will lower the risk.. Trading is more on waiting and patience, plus the factor of a good timing!

all traders should have the ability to be able to predict prices from time to time. because the key to success in trading is to enter at the right time and get out at the right time. because all strategies in crypto become meaningless if we are wrong in determining the time when we sell and when we buy.

It means naturally, traders must know strategy for short term and long term trading. Because in any condition of market, he can solve it. And maybe if beb long term trader, it can be called investors because he save money and take profit for long time.

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk.  Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current  situation.  We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

Before buying it is best to determine the price to sell because this market we cannot predict anything and if Bitcoin turns red then all other altcoin will be red. Currently, Bitcoin has shown great stability in the last 7 weeks and it is likely that we will soon see red in this market, so consider selling before it's too late.

This depends on the individual if they have time to do trading. Trading requires time, patience, and determination in order to at least render it profitable. With HODL, you can focus on different/prioritize on different things while making time doing its thing.

The problem with HODL, you do not have the capacity to speculate or read about the market situation in order to maximize the profits. You are only letting time do its work and sell your investments if its price is beyond the initial acquired price.
With trading, you can study the external and internal market factors to reach a conclusion to your next financial decision. It involves a series of technical analysis and speculation unlike HODL.


The market is very unpredictable. There exist no direct or inverse proportional relationship among cryptocurrencies as it all depends on the market. If you were to trade, it is advisable to focus into one coin alone and extensively do your research about the said coin.

I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

Hold and trading should be always with risk management because both different way has potential to offer good profit but also with the same high risk.  Both way only good to do when crypto oversold just like current  situation.  We should be also have target profit for each way and avoid greedy.

I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

Panic sale will be a good reason to regret it in the future. There is always great risk, therefore it is always advisable to invest money which you can afford to lose.

therefore the risk of trading by holding the coin is really needed at a market like this because it is a good strategy to get profits even though the risk is quite large

Buyers of 2017 coins are the ones who hold their coins right now if they have the patience up to now. Otherwise, they already sold their coins laat year. The very long bearish period really tested holders patience. This is the key to survive here in cryptocurrency, patience. This is the recovery period as you can see that coins are very stable though not that high, but at least they are stable. For some, this is the time to acquire significant coins while prices are low.

I can't hold anymore once the market get red it shown that all altcoins have a chance to decrease on their prices so for those holders make sure that they can take the risk of it.

HODLing means you hold that assets for quite sometime, not exactly how long but you hold.

The risk is if that assets you hold goes in bear trend for a long time and not showing any signs of bouncing up. You'll lose your money if that happens.
So be careful what tokens you should be hodling.

thats why its suggested that we only invest what we can afford to loose because hodling is a risky game and its advisable to choose the coin wisely.

you didnt loose money once the market start to decline but as long as you still hodl your coins  .

Being an hodler is risky when you are hodling a new token i think,being an hodler of a established coin like ETH,LTC,WAVES,BCC,BTC is alot safer because they are on the business for a long time already and showing good prices and improvements.There still a risk but just a small one.But risk on being a hodler is so much compared to being just a trader

Being an hodler is risky when you are hodling a new token i think,being an hodler of a established coin like ETH,LTC,WAVES,BCC,BTC is alot safer because they are on the business for a long time already and showing good prices and improvements.There still a risk but just a small one.But risk on being a hodler is so much compared to being just a trader

There is a strategy between trading and hodling: You can hodl  part of your gains from trading..  For me this is the best strategy.
Another good advice is to divide your capital into at least two parts - you can try trading with one and hodling with another.
And then you can decide which strategy fits you better

Thank you for the advice, this is very useful for me, and I am a person who prefers to trade coins rather than holding them for too long

For trading, you need to have many altcoins in your portfolio. If the market is red, there is a chance that some of your alts can stay green, and you can deal with them. Additionally, it is possible trading during the bear market.

For trading, you need to have many altcoins in your portfolio. If the market is red, there is a chance that some of your alts can stay green, and you can deal with them. Additionally, it is possible trading during the bear market.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundamental and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He don't w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he tries to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoploss which is set in his trading strategy. And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He don't fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy opportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he sees opportunity on 5 min candles he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasn't faked. He also don't have chance to learn to invest because after first buy decision there is only hodl

trading risk and risk holding more risk hold, because if you hold it you can hold the coin that you hold will run delist so it will make you loss if coin mean too long.

Of course a lot of depend on coin. If you choose coin with bad capitalization and low volume there's a big chance that you'll suffer from loses. Personally i prefer to trade with BTC and ETH. It's a relly reliable coins. But of course you have to be ready facing risks.

Of course a lot of depend on coin. If you choose coin with bad capitalization and low volume there's a big chance that you'll suffer from loses. Personally i prefer to trade with BTC and ETH. It's a relly reliable coins. But of course you have to be ready facing risks.

Of course a lot of depend on coin. If you choose coin with bad capitalization and low volume there's a big chance that you'll suffer from loses. Personally i prefer to trade with BTC and ETH. It's a relly reliable coins. But of course you have to be ready facing risks.

That's the main motive of many people out in the trading industry.
They go for the stable coins to invest.
And according to me it's a wise decision ofc.
Those coins have very less chances to fall or grow with huge percentage.
So it's better to invest in those.
Hope this helps.

Trading and holding are risky on cryptocurrency , even all included investing too but for me.. holding is very risky than trading because I didn't know how to execute trading on exchanges just know pump and dump of coin price , didn't know any strategy.
I holding some coins which around one hundred coins on my ERC20 wallet and few coins that I hold is dump now , maybe I didn't follow any update of their coin projects. Thats a sad moment on my life in cryptocurrency

Trading and holding are risky on cryptocurrency , even all included investing too but for me.. holding is very risky than trading because I didn't know how to execute trading on exchanges just know pump and dump of coin price , didn't know any strategy.
I holding some coins which around one hundred coins on my ERC20 wallet and few coins that I hold is dump now , maybe I didn't follow any update of their coin projects. Thats a sad moment on my life in cryptocurrency

According to statistics, only 8% of traders constantly go into a plus,  and now it is only 3%. It is impossible to become a trader in a day, a month, or even in a year. This is a profession that needs to be studied for a long time, including the first-hand experience, merging first deposits. Being an investor is calmer than a trader, but you need to understand that money is invested in the project today, and profit can only be obtained in even five or ten years.

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What you described is applicable, first of all, to new and little-known projects in which no one has invested for a long time due to too high a risk.
Now investors prefer bitcoin and altcoins from the top 100 of the list, and this, as you know, projects of a completely different level, and holding their coins is much less risky than trading.

I've seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that many mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to lose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Let's discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often suggested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copied and change a little. Faked. I can create my own whitepaper in which ill write that tomorrow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought followers
3- code - who of us can check if code is OK? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- being unique didn't give you certainty of being unique forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamental analyst wrong or didn't do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 won't survive next few years because they are not necessary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happened? Your investment will continuously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I don't think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundamental and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He don't w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he tries to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoploss which is set in his trading strategy. And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He don't fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy opportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he sees opportunity on 5 min candles he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasn't faked. He also don't have chance to learn to invest because after first buy decision there is only hodl