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Title: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 24, 2014, 05:25:27 PM What Happened
Due to their poor security, C-Cex's exchange was exploited by a user pumping DRK, and they allegedly lost 300 BTC due to the exploit. They have now placed *all* BTC balances on hold, and are stating that they may hold these until their "investigation" is completed - which can take up to a month. User's Profile Link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=220467 Will update when more information is available. Update #1 User has stopped responding via Skype Update #2 After several requests, they responded on Skype by simply posting their twitter address. When I said that this in no way answered my questions, he then, indeed, took the time to answer the questions I asked. Update #3 The admin and his cheer leader are claiming that the "thief" is sending BTC back through a tumbler. In the meantime they are giving back assets to those who dealt in the currency used for the exploit, while those who had not involved themselves at all with said currency are still left with our dicks in our hands. It has been suggested MANY times that the admin secure a loan using other altcoins earned via the site's transaction fees as collateral and *every time* he has ignored it and said absolutely nothing. This leads me to believe that he really has no interest in paying people back in a timely manner. My conclusion at this point: Site administrator is (and I'm sorry to say it) incompetent in terms of running a secure site - an absolute necessity for running an exchange. DO NOT, under *any* circumstances, allow this guy access to your assets. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 24, 2014, 06:15:15 PM Unnecessary FUD.
C-CEX pushed new code to the site yesterday which contained a flaw which allowed a single user to add fraudulent BTC (BTC which did not exist) to their account. They then withdrew all the BTC they could (all the BTC in the exchange wallet) and used the rest of their fraudulent BTC to purchase DRK which they then promptly withdrew and dumped at Poloniex. Upon realizing there was an accounting error, the @Support took the site down and began investigating the cause of the issue. They have since fixed the faulty piece of code and re-opened the exchange which is working perfectly fine for all new balances. All new balances can be safely deposited, traded and withdrawn, only past balances of BTC and DRK have been affected. C-CEX knows which user is responsible, has contacted them and is waiting for a reply. In the meantime, C-CEX is refunding/releasing frozen funds as they are audited, verified and funds are available. C-CEX has been honest and transparent about the situation unlike other exchanges that have been hacked/exploited in the past. Trading is still functional and people ARE trading. As the exchange earns funds from new trades, users WILL be returned their balances. In the meantime, let's give C-CEX credit for being honest about what happened and for getting the flaw patched before the attacker was able to exploit it further. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 24, 2014, 06:17:26 PM Unnecessary FUD. C-CEX pushed new code to the site yesterday which contained a flaw which allowed a single user to add fraudulent BTC (BTC which did not exist) to their account. They then withdrew all the BTC they could (all the BTC in the exchange wallet) and used the rest of their fraudulent BTC to purchase DRK which they then promptly withdrew and dumped at Poloniex. Upon realizing there was an accounting error, the @Support took the site down and began investigating the cause of the issue. They have since fixed the faulty piece of code and re-opened the exchange which is working perfectly fine for all new balances. All new balances can be safely deposited, traded and withdrawn, only past balances of BTC and DRK have been affected. C-CEX knows which user is responsible, has contacted them and is waiting for a reply. In the meantime, C-CEX is refunding/releasing frozen funds as they are audited, verified and funds are available. C-CEX has been honest and transparent about the situation unlike other exchanges that have been hacked/exploited in the past. Trading is still functional and people ARE trading. As the exchange earns funds from new trades, users WILL be returned their balances. In the meantime, let's give C-CEX credit for being honest about what happened and for getting the flaw patched before the attacker was able to exploit it further. You've done nothing but cheerlead them the whole time. I'll give them "credit" when they secure a loan or do something to immediately repay ALL their customers Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 06:30:49 PM Yes. One of our users were able to add about 310 BTC on his balance that he did not own. After that he bought all DRK he could and withdrew it. Our politic now is to work further. All new deposits/withdrawals/trades works instantly. We intend to reimburse all the BTC to customers, but it will take time.
This affected only BTC. All altcoin balances are accessible for trades and withdrawals. This happen only by our own fault. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 24, 2014, 06:50:30 PM Yes. One of our users were able to add about 310 BTC on his balance that he did not own. After that he bought all DRK he could and withdrew it. Our politic now is to work further. All new deposits/withdrawals/trades works instantly. We intend to reimburse all the BTC to customers, but it will take time. This affected only BTC. All altcoin balances are accessible for trades and withdrawals. This happen only by our own fault. Side question - answer whenever you have time.... Why not dox the MFer and let everyone get your BTC back for you? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: JoelKatz on February 24, 2014, 06:55:14 PM If it's not too embarrassing, now that the hole has been closed, could you disclose some technical details about the nature of the hole and how it was exploited? It could help someone else avoid the same, or a similar, mistake.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 24, 2014, 08:28:57 PM Ok, so they added fake btc to their account some how, which they used to buy drk and then withdrew DRK. So that means you lost users dark but still have everyones bitcoins?
If that is so, why are everyones bitcoins frozen. What really doesnt make sense is, why are my bitcoins frozen when I didnt make any trades on drk? C-cex said to me earlier on Skype that all the bitcoin were stolen from the server. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 09:04:23 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: anonymousxx1503 on February 24, 2014, 09:18:18 PM I am currently working with the ccex staff to recoup btc, wanna make somes things clear, I am not a hacker, it is over my head, I tried to withdraw .2btc it turned into 143btc once the btc was sold to dark at pumped prices and reexchanged on polo it was much less, when the dark was bought, dark went into my account not btc, the btc should still be on the exchange, also, I tried to withdraw amounts of btc @78, 20, 8, 17.4....none of these withdrawls ever went through, the only btc withdrawl that went through for me was for 3btc.also have handed admins credentials to polo acct, site is getting ddossed so admin will have access once over, retrieving other funds as we speak Why the hell did you dump so much dark, you single handedly drove down the price and shook peoples confidence in the coin. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 09:23:06 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: slyA on February 24, 2014, 09:28:00 PM I am currently banned from chat for saying "I do not want to bitch at OP"
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 09:29:29 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: slyA on February 24, 2014, 09:35:27 PM Still no access to polo, account there has 15000 more dark 48btc and 5000000mintcoin, still have to send admin mint from cold wallet as well, be patient If this is genuine. Thank you mate. You could as well have not responded but sincerely, the fact that you did means a lot. Thank you. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: MickGhee on February 24, 2014, 09:36:47 PM :Di dont think the company is untrustworthy. i do however feel i shouldnt be penalized for them being exploited i paid for all my coins :) bigg ups for claiming all responsability and i trust i will get my monies just wish i could buy some drk right now >:(
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 09:39:53 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 24, 2014, 09:44:00 PM I am currently banned from chat for saying "I do not want to bitch at OP" I can verify that this is an auto-ban based off of word filtering. It is not the site Admin attempting to "silence opposition" as I originally thought, lol Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: zombie6 on February 24, 2014, 10:09:52 PM just heard of this drama, if the guy returns the lost funds of users that would be admirable
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: slyA on February 24, 2014, 10:11:19 PM Polo is back online.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 10:15:08 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 10:23:54 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 10:33:17 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 10:33:24 PM 14380 DRK confirm.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 10:34:01 PM admin has access to polo acct What admin? If me - I don't have access to polo acc. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: sukottosan_d on February 24, 2014, 10:36:18 PM 14380 DRK confirm. Anyone getting a sketchy vibe here? Could be buying time to hide his tracks - apparently that's what the XCP thief did, claimed to be white hat - bought time and ditched. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: buryat on February 24, 2014, 10:37:35 PM that's what the XCP thief did, claimed to be white hat - bought time and ditched. Do you have a link to the story?Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 10:38:11 PM 14380 DRK confirm. Anyone getting a sketchy vibe here? Could be buying time to hide his tracks - apparently that's what the XCP thief did, claimed to be white hat - bought time and ditched. A man is working out. Beside it was all our fault. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 10:39:21 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 10:46:23 PM sent credentials along with proof of mint transaction in last message to you Status: 28 confirmations, broadcast through 9 nodes Date: 2/24/2014 16:12 To: MeG38yAo64XsDSC9mrjxvBGxReGuDrmJ4o Debit: -22516984.553855 MINT Transaction fee: -0.10 MINT Net amount: -22516984.653855 MINT Transaction ID: ab04e3423c3ac0b40432d6a0ccf98c5488b43d8696f0cd1d350c2f2d4519e397 Status: 31 confirmations, broadcast through 11 nodes Date: 2/24/2014 16:11 To: MeG38yAo64XsDSC9mrjxvBGxReGuDrmJ4o Debit: -2500000.00 MINT Transaction fee: -0.10 MINT Net amount: -2500000.10 MINT Transaction ID: 44287b4a443061ebfb13f0fbb10fc8776b25c36699d590bc736450eea17da3b6 also took 2fa authentication off of polo this is the message I just sent with the login credentials removed on this version Do not have this message and MINT by now, Let's wait... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 10:47:19 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 10:49:33 PM also let me make one thing clear, I am not a hacker, If I was a hacker I would never have responded to any of this, Just a guy that took of advantage of an exploit, realized it was wrong and decided to rectify the situation. I was lurking in c-cex all day and saw somebody posted they had to pay rent with the lost funds, that is what changed my mind Thank You. I respect what You are doing. But I don't have MINT and credentials by now Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 11:02:00 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 11:08:45 PM Sent credentials in bitcoint talk message, also awaiting funds from tumbler to arrive Credentials confirmed. But need e-mail confirmation on each withdraw. Was able to initate only 0.4008262 BTC withdrawal - waiting for e-mail confirm. It has 15k DRK and 5000000 MINT on balance but for now it is impossible to withdraw due to poloniex daily limit Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ciocgun on February 24, 2014, 11:10:27 PM a good site has a daily limit against cheat!
so about 50 BTC are went back to c-cex? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 11:14:30 PM Received 25116984 MINT sent by lojack before giving credentials.
Total returned by now: 14380 DRK 25116984 MINT 0.40072620 BTC Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ciocgun on February 24, 2014, 11:16:14 PM Received 25116984 MINT sent by lojack before giving credentials. and 15k DRK and 5MLN MINT in balanceTotal returned by now: 14380 DRK 25116984 MINT 0.40072620 BTC about 70 BTC Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 24, 2014, 11:16:28 PM ...but for now it is impossible to withdraw due to poloniex daily limit... Maybe you can message the admin at Poloniex and explain the situation and they might be able to remove the limitations...? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 11:17:13 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 11:18:33 PM Received 25116984 MINT sent by lojack before giving credentials. and 15k DRK and 5MLN MINT in balanceTotal returned by now: 14380 DRK 25116984 MINT 0.40072620 BTC about 70 BTC 15k DRK * 0.0015 = 22,5 BTC 5KK MINT * 0.00000038 = 1,9 BTC Total is 24,4 BTC. not 70 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 24, 2014, 11:18:38 PM Received 25116984 MINT sent by lojack before giving credentials. and 15k DRK and 5MLN MINT in balanceTotal returned by now: 14380 DRK 25116984 MINT 0.40072620 BTC about 70 BTC He was stating what he currently has access to, those balances are technically unavailable since they can't be withdrawn from Poloniex at the moment because of daily withdrawal limits Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 11:20:27 PM and 15k DRK and 5MLN MINT in balance When should I attempt to withdraw it to fit limits? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 24, 2014, 11:21:32 PM and 15k DRK and 5MLN MINT in balance When should I attempt to withdraw it to fit limits? Contact poloniex, explain the situation and ask them to remove the withdrawal limitation Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 11:22:27 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ciocgun on February 24, 2014, 11:23:36 PM Received 25116984 MINT sent by lojack before giving credentials. and 15k DRK and 5MLN MINT in balanceTotal returned by now: 14380 DRK 25116984 MINT 0.40072620 BTC about 70 BTC 15k DRK * 0.0015 = 22,5 BTC 5KK MINT * 0.00000038 = 1,9 BTC Total is 24,4 BTC. not 70 15k+14.3k DRK 25MLN+5MLN min LOL Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: sukottosan_d on February 24, 2014, 11:25:58 PM Just a note as an impartial observer - please, people, post when you start getting your BTC back - so that we can confirm it is actually happening. Not that I have a problem with c-cex - but - until we can see it being returned some will still have their doubts.
Or if anyone has another suggestion for a good way to verify that funds are being returned, please state it here. C-cex has done - what looks like a good job in working to fix the situation in conjunction with lojack - however, - let's stay on top of this - so far - it just looks that way to the observer. Just my thoughts. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 24, 2014, 11:26:34 PM 15k+14.3k DRK 25MLN+5MLN min Is that all that supposed to be returned? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 11:28:29 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ciocgun on February 24, 2014, 11:29:21 PM you and "hacker" wrote this
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 24, 2014, 11:36:14 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: sukottosan_d on February 25, 2014, 12:02:56 AM someone needs to keep on top of this and keep updating this thread.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 12:06:59 AM someone needs to keep on top of this and keep updating this thread. Are you expecting minute by minute updates or something...? The attacker just updated ~30 minutes ago... I'm sure they are updating as new info is available. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: COINPRADER on February 25, 2014, 12:10:23 AM ...and C-cex updated just a bit before that. Kidda need to sit back and breathe - this will take some time to clear-up...looks like anyone who can do something is doing just that ;)
someone needs to keep on top of this and keep updating this thread. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: sukottosan_d on February 25, 2014, 12:18:24 AM Not at all - but the return of BTC isn't done until it's done, deadlines for information should be set - like - next update will be at <this time> - and that may just be an update that says - still waiting on <whatever> - but that would do a lot for the trust of the community and would be a professional way to deal with the problem.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 12:19:08 AM it will be funny when the "tumblr" service doesnt give those 76 btc back
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: kilopip on February 25, 2014, 12:22:32 AM it will be funny when the "tumblr" service doesnt give those 76 btc back Tumbled so well that they can't tell who they belong to anymore ;) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 12:24:27 AM Just post here C-CEX.com addresses to return funds to:
BTC: 17hQkHX2VGkLsy6932o4RptSdqW48QxERd LTC: LarvVHMMm8rFLp7gE6wbwWMJUczLgM8Yjz DRK: XnBTqTpJwaqNATGASkcqsjLEVScK8W9aaM MINT: MeG38yAo64XsDSC9mrjxvBGxReGuDrmJ4o Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ytb1638 on February 25, 2014, 01:31:06 AM 2014-02-23 13:25:07 Transaction Order execution Sell 593.32871087 DRK for 1.18659809 -0.2% BTC (rates: 0.0019999 / 500.02500125 ) +1.18422489 BTC -593.32871087 DRK
2014-02-23 11:48:09 Order New order: Sell 593.32871087 DRK for 1.18659809 BTC by rate 0.0019999 / 500.02500125 2014-02-23 11:32:22 Deposit 593.32871087 DRK (25f1c2bc94123b8698e2b3babb10c8870af97a3cdfc103aace26ad64e660c6a3) +593.32871087 DRK Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 03:10:32 AM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: slyA on February 25, 2014, 03:25:25 AM Still awaiting tumbler funds, also awaiting for polo to allow admin to withdraw dark and mint, think we should be able to withdraw everything off of polo within the hour, and then I will just have btc left to send directly to admin once again I apologize for all this everyone Mate, truth be told, if I was the one who did this, I'm not sure what I would have done. In the end, thank you for doing this. Some of us(me) were stupid enough to gamble with our savings in cryptos and I've learned a lesson. Again, thanks. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: AMOjeda on February 25, 2014, 03:33:44 AM If you're not busting our balls, I admire your honesty and integrity.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 03:39:32 AM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: HyperToxic on February 25, 2014, 03:39:39 AM Can someone please explain why my BTC has been frozen. All I did was deposit 30.56999433 DRK and trade it for 0.06266757 BTC. How is it that my BTC is held?
Why would many suffer for the acts of one? C-CEX has not responded to my email or Skype chat. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: AMOjeda on February 25, 2014, 03:43:13 AM Did get the 76BTC?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 04:03:48 AM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: twalrus on February 25, 2014, 04:27:00 AM thanks lojack if you put up a donation address when all is clear i'll be happy to send a bit over as a reward.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 05:03:45 AM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 25, 2014, 05:45:07 AM Will you compensate my loss of 0.8btc?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: adhitthana on February 25, 2014, 05:48:31 AM My BTC were "on hold". I emailed them yesterday saying that I was pretty sure I hadn't traded DRK in the "big move". They promptly released my BTC (within minutes).
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TingCoin on February 25, 2014, 07:04:15 AM Ok...
I had to come here and say this, as soft and silly as it might seem - Fuck it. Lojack when I read about what you'd done and realised how much you could've profited from doing it... And the fact you decided to return it and the reason why you came to that decision it actually bought a tear to my eye a little bit lol. It's just refreshing to know that such compassion and morality still exists, especially the fact that you've never even met any of these victims. I'm touched. You'll be rewarded for this one way or another I'm sure. Spiritually I mean. I suggest anyone who lost BTC in C-Cex if you get them back to reward this guy somehow. He didn't have to do this, I'm sure most wouldn't of. Now if this is all part of some elaborate scheme like people are suggesting, I'm going to feel a bit of a f***ing mug. Haha. But oh well, it'd still be a nice thought. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 07:29:13 AM I'v just initiated a withdraw of 15k DRK and 5KK MINT from poloniex. Need e-mail confirmation.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: megges on February 25, 2014, 07:45:19 AM edit: nvm
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: utuxia on February 25, 2014, 08:29:43 AM I just got the hold released. I'm all good now.
File a ticket, and give c-cex time to respond. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 25, 2014, 08:30:55 AM I just got the hold released. I'm all good now. File a ticket, and give c-cex time to respond. Did you trade during situated hours? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: trogdorjw73 on February 25, 2014, 08:56:21 AM It's nice that lojack is trying to return the funds, but let's be clear: all the funds will never be returned. They can't be, not after what he did. Specifically, buying DRK up to 0.008 with a volume of 104K DRK, and then selling DRK on Poloniex for less than one fourth that amount (how many were sold and at what prices?) means if he basically "stole" 310 BTC we're looking at about one third to one fourth being returned, right?
It's great that he's willing to return what he can, but basically C-CEX lost at least 200 BTC due to a flaw in their code. Which is pretty freaking crazy -- how do you go live with code that has that big of a flaw? It sounds like lojack isn't even a "hacker" and simply had a deposit show up with the wrong amount? Anyway, C-CEX does how much volume? If they did 1000 BTC per day (and I don't think they do!) that would mean roughly 4 BTC in income off 0.2% trading fees (0.2% on the buyer and seller). About 40 days then to recover 200 BTC? Hopefully they stick it out. I personally have a hold of 6+ BTC that I'm waiting to see what happens. I sold DRK at prices between 0.0025 and 0.003, which wasn't that far off the mark before all this craziness. That would be either ~2.5K DRK or ~6+ BTC. Guess I'll just have to pray it all works out. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 09:17:29 AM It's nice that lojack is trying to return the funds, but let's be clear: all the funds will never be returned. They can't be, not after what he did. Specifically, buying DRK up to 0.008 with a volume of 104K DRK, and then selling DRK on Poloniex for less than one fourth that amount (how many were sold and at what prices?) means if he basically "stole" 310 BTC we're looking at about one third to one fourth being returned, right? It's great that he's willing to return what he can, but basically C-CEX lost at least 200 BTC due to a flaw in their code. Which is pretty freaking crazy -- how do you go live with code that has that big of a flaw? It sounds like lojack isn't even a "hacker" and simply had a deposit show up with the wrong amount? Anyway, C-CEX does how much volume? If they did 1000 BTC per day (and I don't think they do!) that would mean roughly 4 BTC in income off 0.2% trading fees (0.2% on the buyer and seller). About 40 days then to recover 200 BTC? Hopefully they stick it out. I personally have a hold of 6+ BTC that I'm waiting to see what happens. I sold DRK at prices between 0.0025 and 0.003, which wasn't that far off the mark before all this craziness. That would be either ~2.5K DRK or ~6+ BTC. Guess I'll just have to pray it all works out. No, first - we will reverse DRK transactions made by high rates so it will not be 300 BTC but less. Second - flaw made this possible were fixed fast. Third - yes we will not be refunded in full - but we are going to refund customers in full by our own funds. And Again - I agree this happened by our fault. And we will compensate harm. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: utuxia on February 25, 2014, 09:58:55 AM I just got the hold released. I'm all good now. File a ticket, and give c-cex time to respond. Did you trade during situated hours? I traded Gridcoin. Not Darkcoin. I'm not sure what hours this all went down. But he was kind enough to respond to my Skype message. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: duazo on February 25, 2014, 10:29:26 AM No, first - we will reverse DRK transactions made by high rates so it will not be 300 BTC but less. Second - flaw made this possible were fixed fast. Third - yes we will not be refunded in full - but we are going to refund customers in full by our own funds. And Again - I agree this happened by our fault. And we will compensate harm. How will you decide what a "high rate" is? It's impossible. You can't reverse people's transactions. DRK value has dropped since. The price was 0.0022 before, now it's 0.0015. If someone sold 1,000 DRK at a rate of 0.005, for 5 BTC, and you reverse that transaction, then they've lost 0.7 BTC because they can now only sell for 1.5 BTC instead of 2.2 BTC. The flaw was C-CEX's. If you reverse the transactions, then that's not fair. Nobody will use C-CEX again. And it's impossible for you to decide which rates were "too high". Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: xorpheus on February 25, 2014, 10:30:27 AM Can someone please explain why my BTC has been frozen. All I did was deposit 30.56999433 DRK and trade it for 0.06266757 BTC. How is it that my BTC is held? Why would many suffer for the acts of one? C-CEX has not responded to my email or Skype chat. I see it like this... Due to a bug in code on the c-cex exchange, someone found their account with a ton more bitcoin in it than there should be. That user then made a conscious decision to trade the bitcoin which was not rightfully theirs. Everyone on the other side of those trades were technically receiving stolen property. The non-existent bitcoin (it's just a virtual exchange balance remember, not an actual bitcoin wallet) was converted into darkcoin by trading on the exchange, effectively transferring the non-existent bitcoin into other traders accounts. The dirty darkcoin was then laundered (or tried to be) by trading for bitcoin on poloniex. It seems both c-cex and the user who was consciously involved in this are making a great effort to retrieve lost funds. Problem is, due to the trading at great loss, a large chunk of this bitcoin that never existed in the first place is now in the hands of everyone with whom they traded. This is why your bitcoin balance at c-cex is frozen. If authorities were involved, the accounts at poloniex would likely also be frozen during the investigation period. If this were a bank error of similar scale which was deliberately taken advantage of, the person involved could end up with a prison sentence. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: xorpheus on February 25, 2014, 10:40:05 AM The flaw was C-CEX's. If you reverse the transactions, then that's not fair. Nobody will use C-CEX again. And it's impossible for you to decide which rates were "too high". Yes the flaw was C-CEX's, but let's not forget that ultimate liability lies with the person who took advantage of it. C-CEX is as much a victim as anyone else in this situation. Yeah it sucks, but that's the way any legal system would see it. If your car is stolen because you left the key in it, you made a stupid mistake, but you are not responsible for the loss - the theif is. Any forex broker would reverse the transactions without question and you'd just have to suck it up. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: tugvarish on February 25, 2014, 11:08:53 AM I see it like this... Due to a bug in code on the c-cex exchange, someone found their account with a ton more bitcoin in it than there should be. That user then made a conscious decision to trade the bitcoin which was not rightfully theirs. Everyone on the other side of those trades were technically receiving stolen property. The non-existent bitcoin (it's just a virtual exchange balance remember, not an actual bitcoin wallet) was converted into darkcoin by trading on the exchange, effectively transferring the non-existent bitcoin into other traders accounts. The dirty darkcoin was then laundered (or tried to be) by trading for bitcoin on poloniex. It seems both c-cex and the user who was consciously involved in this are making a great effort to retrieve lost funds. Problem is, due to the trading at great loss, a large chunk of this bitcoin that never existed in the first place is now in the hands of everyone with whom they traded. This is why your bitcoin balance at c-cex is frozen. If authorities were involved, the accounts at poloniex would likely also be frozen during the investigation period. If this were a bank error of similar scale which was deliberately taken advantage of, the person involved could end up with a prison sentence. +1 Yes the flaw was C-CEX's, but let's not forget that ultimate liability lies with the person who took advantage of it. C-CEX is as much a victim as anyone else in this situation. Yeah it sucks, but that's the way any legal system would see it. If your car is stolen because you left the key in it, you made a stupid mistake, but you are not responsible for the loss - the theif is. Any forex broker would reverse the transactions without question and you'd just have to suck it up. ... and another +1 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: child_harold on February 25, 2014, 11:26:35 AM Crypto Monopoly
Community Crypto-Chest: Bank error in your favor. Collect 300 BTC Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ciocgun on February 25, 2014, 11:45:46 AM LOL you reverse transaction, we lost money and you collect reimbursement..
Please hacker remove access from your polo account to them, keep all the money to you! someone knows where is legal setted c-cex? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 12:07:46 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 25, 2014, 12:30:12 PM The honest thing to have done would to have been to immediately return the money to the exchange. Not place crazy orders leaving a mess for everyone to clean up.
He deserves no bonus, tip or even good karma. He felt guilty and wanted to clear his conscience. Too late. Real people's real money was affected. Had this been a few years from now he would be in jail for several years for taking advantage of the situation. A judge would have had little compassion that he had a change of heart later. Damage already done. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 12:49:59 PM Crypto Monopoly Community Crypto-Chest: Bank error in your favor. Collect 300 BTC funny irl, people go to jail if they spend that bank error. Crypto world, we thank them for trying to give them back. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 02:18:58 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 02:22:36 PM to answer your question defaced, I sent them to tumbler service before I knew I was giving them back lol Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 02:29:33 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 02:45:47 PM meant to post this earlier about polo funds, These are the addresses right: DRK: XnBTqTpJwaqNATGASkcqsjLEVScK8W9aaM MINT: MeG38yAo64XsDSC9mrjxvBGxReGuDrmJ4o The withdrawl email matches the addresses so they will be arriving, there is no other place for them to go. If you are still logged on polo you should be able to view the transaction history and see they were withdrawn to the correct addresses A request to withdraw 15000.09999991 DRK from your Poloniex account to address XnBTqTpJwaqNATGASkcqsjLEVScK8W9aaM was just made. To confirm the withdrawal, please click the following link: http://www.poloniex.com/confirmWithdrawal.php?h=c7133e837742e1ec3f3f8f90c1b75c3a9dc6e5e04de0be9b0335cc9e219c0a733ac8d23e91cb51030217aa7b79e31629e1f074f6a4ffa5bb31f20c56bd14f2 If you did not request this withdrawal, please contact Poloniex support immediately at poloniex@gmail.com. -and- A request to withdraw 5000000.00000005 MINT from your Poloniex account to address MeG38yAo64XsDSC9mrjxvBGxReGuDrmJ4o was just made. To confirm the withdrawal, please click the following link: http://www.poloniex.com/confirmWithdrawal.php?h=6b57ec82cd9cd1463a59c0daf0b7f613dc5237df505a0f0800d30a58456bddc03bac9d739602ceb529f5aa756411f35852bb2951d2617dfe4915b6d3022478 edit: took out last view letters and numbers from each link just in case they can still be used, I really don't know but just wanting to be safe If you did not request this withdrawal, please contact Poloniex support immediately at poloniex@gmail.com. Not according to the block explorers: DRK: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/XnBTqTpJwaqNATGASkcqsjLEVScK8W9aaM MINT: http://mintcoin-explorer.info/address/MeG38yAo64XsDSC9mrjxvBGxReGuDrmJ4o ***EDIT*** The second set of 15k DRK and 5kk MINT has arrived, 76 BTC + 200.12 LTC still outstanding Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 02:53:36 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Vitadream on February 25, 2014, 02:55:35 PM I cant withdraw my DRK. Many messages to support, no answer. I send messages with "bad words" - my account be blocked after 1 minute.
700+ DRK. Quote ***, былo гдe-тo 900 дapкoв, вчepa 600 вывeл нa кpиптcи. Ceйчac y мeня бaлaнc в пoчти тe жe 900 дapкoв и -1.6 биткa, вывeл дapки, и дoвoлeн, eптa, yвeличилcя нecлaбo, бoльшe нa этy биpжy нe пoйдy peчь o c-cex, ecли чтo/ Goodbye my DRK...Oтвeты: >>49477 Aнoним Bтp 25 Фeв 2014 18:40:14 №49477 >>49475 Ox лoл, cпacибo aнoн, ceйчac пpoвepил cвoй aккayнт нa c-cex и тaм oкaзaлиcь eщe пaчкa дapкoв, нe cмoтpя нa тo чтo я вce cвoи дapки вывeл cpaзy жe пocлe включeния биpжи. Итoгo былo 380 дapкoв, пoтoм нa пaмпe нaвapилcя дo 650, и плюc ceйчac eщe 198 вывeл. Oxyeннo. И пoxyй чтo нa c-cex бaлaнc биткoв -0.8 ocтaлcя. Sorry, Google translate: ***, was about 900 DRK , yesterday brought to 600 criptsy . Now I have a balance in almost the same 900 DRK and -1.6 cue , brought Darko and happy epta increased Shes more on this exchange will not go on with it - seh , if that Replies : 49477 >> Anonymous Tue February 25, 2014 18:40:14 № 49477 49475 >> Oh lol, thanks anon , check your account on a seh - and there were even a pack of DRK , despite the fact that I have all my Darky brought immediately after the exchange. Total was 380 DRK , then at Pampa Navara to 650, plus 198 more now brought . Fucking . And fuck that with balance - seh Bitkov -0.8 remained. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 02:59:33 PM Total returned by now:
DRK: 14380 15000,08999991 Total: 29380,08999991 MINT 2500000 22516984,55385500 4999999,99 Total: 30016984,543855 0.40072620 BTC Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 03:01:36 PM I cant withdraw my DRK. Many messages to support, no answer. I send messages with "bad words" - my account be blocked after 1 minute. 700+ DRK. Quote ***, былo гдe-тo 900 дapкoв, вчepa 600 вывeл нa кpиптcи. Ceйчac y мeня бaлaнc в пoчти тe жe 900 дapкoв и -1.6 биткa, вывeл дapки, и дoвoлeн, eптa, yвeличилcя нecлaбo, бoльшe нa этy биpжy нe пoйдy peчь o c-cex, ecли чтo/ Goodbye my DRK...Oтвeты: >>49477 Aнoним Bтp 25 Фeв 2014 18:40:14 №49477 >>49475 Ox лoл, cпacибo aнoн, ceйчac пpoвepил cвoй aккayнт нa c-cex и тaм oкaзaлиcь eщe пaчкa дapкoв, нe cмoтpя нa тo чтo я вce cвoи дapки вывeл cpaзy жe пocлe включeния биpжи. Итoгo былo 380 дapкoв, пoтoм нa пaмпe нaвapилcя дo 650, и плюc ceйчac eщe 198 вывeл. Oxyeннo. И пoxyй чтo нa c-cex бaлaнc биткoв -0.8 ocтaлcя. Sorry, Google translate: ***, was about 900 DRK , yesterday brought to 600 criptsy . Now I have a balance in almost the same 900 DRK and -1.6 cue , brought Darko and happy epta increased Shes more on this exchange will not go on with it - seh , if that Replies : 49477 >> Anonymous Tue February 25, 2014 18:40:14 № 49477 49475 >> Oh lol, thanks anon , check your account on a seh - and there were even a pack of DRK , despite the fact that I have all my Darky brought immediately after the exchange. Total was 380 DRK , then at Pampa Navara to 650, plus 198 more now brought . Fucking . And fuck that with balance - seh Bitkov -0.8 remained. Please just be patient. Support is very busy, you are not the only person who needs to be helped. As you can see the funds are being returned to the exchange and now give the exchange time to return it to the people it's supposed to go back to, please. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 03:02:32 PM I need community advise what to do with 30016984 MINT?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 03:04:02 PM This is bullshit.
There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 03:07:15 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 03:08:41 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Vitadream on February 25, 2014, 03:09:46 PM I cant withdraw my DRK. Many messages to support, no answer. I send messages with "bad words" - my account be blocked after 1 minute. 700+ DRK. Quote ***, былo гдe-тo 900 дapкoв, вчepa 600 вывeл нa кpиптcи. Ceйчac y мeня бaлaнc в пoчти тe жe 900 дapкoв и -1.6 биткa, вывeл дapки, и дoвoлeн, eптa, yвeличилcя нecлaбo, бoльшe нa этy биpжy нe пoйдy peчь o c-cex, ecли чтo/ Goodbye my DRK...Oтвeты: >>49477 Aнoним Bтp 25 Фeв 2014 18:40:14 №49477 >>49475 Ox лoл, cпacибo aнoн, ceйчac пpoвepил cвoй aккayнт нa c-cex и тaм oкaзaлиcь eщe пaчкa дapкoв, нe cмoтpя нa тo чтo я вce cвoи дapки вывeл cpaзy жe пocлe включeния биpжи. Итoгo былo 380 дapкoв, пoтoм нa пaмпe нaвapилcя дo 650, и плюc ceйчac eщe 198 вывeл. ***. И пoxyй чтo нa c-cex бaлaнc биткoв -0.8 ocтaлcя. Sorry, Google translate: ***, was about 900 DRK , yesterday brought to 600 criptsy . Now I have a balance in almost the same 900 DRK and -1.6 cue , brought Darko and happy epta increased Shes more on this exchange will not go on with it - seh , if that Replies : 49477 >> Anonymous Tue February 25, 2014 18:40:14 № 49477 49475 >> Oh lol, thanks anon , check your account on a seh - and there were even a pack of DRK , despite the fact that I have all my Darky brought immediately after the exchange. Total was 380 DRK , then at Pampa Navara to 650, plus 198 more now brought . F**. And fuck that with balance - seh Bitkov -0.8 remained. Please just be patient. Support is very busy, you are not the only person who needs to be helped. As you can see the funds are being returned to the exchange and now give the exchange time to return it to the people it's supposed to go back to, please. Oh, he continues ignore me right now, so sweet ^_^ Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 03:15:29 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. You have fucked this up royally. I can't believe I ever trusted your site w/ my BTC and I will do everything I fucking can to make sure that no one else does again. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 25, 2014, 03:49:40 PM They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. No one is being left in the dark. They have responded 4x to my support ticket in the last hour and are in chat trying to work it out with everyone. Poster is just unhappy he isn't getting special treatment. edit. spelling Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 03:49:53 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. You have fucked this up royally. I can't believe I ever trusted your site w/ my BTC and I will do everything I fucking can to make sure that no one else does again. People getting their funds back are the DRK users. Their funds have been returned because that is what the attacker has returned and it made more sense to give back those funds than to "hold onto them until everyone can get their funds back at the same time" because by returning those funds it shows that the problem is being worked on and the exchange is doing everything within it's power to make things right. When the attacker finishes returning the 76 BTC and 200.12 LTC that are still outstanding those people's funds will be returned as well. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 03:51:01 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. You have fucked this up royally. I can't believe I ever trusted your site w/ my BTC and I will do everything I fucking can to make sure that no one else does again. People getting their funds back are the DRK users. Their funds have been returned because that is what the attacker has returned and it made more sense to give back those funds than to "hold onto them until everyone can get their funds back at the same time" because by returning those funds it shows that the problem is being worked on and the exchange is doing everything within it's power to make things right. When the attacker finishes returning the 76 BTC and 200.12 LTC that are still outstanding those people's funds will be returned as well. As we've been discussing in the chat box - if the admin were truly concerned, he would have immediately secured a loan yesterday and worried about recouping HIS losses from the thief on his own time. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 03:54:17 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 03:55:06 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. You have fucked this up royally. I can't believe I ever trusted your site w/ my BTC and I will do everything I fucking can to make sure that no one else does again. People getting their funds back are the DRK users. Their funds have been returned because that is what the attacker has returned and it made more sense to give back those funds than to "hold onto them until everyone can get their funds back at the same time" because by returning those funds it shows that the problem is being worked on and the exchange is doing everything within it's power to make things right. When the attacker finishes returning the 76 BTC and 200.12 LTC that are still outstanding those people's funds will be returned as well. As we've been discussing in the chat box - if the admin were truly concerned, he would have immediately secured a loan yesterday and worried about recouping HIS losses from the thief on his own time. And... As I stated in the chatbox: Code: TribalBob: @SlidingHorn Do you realize what you sound like...? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 03:57:35 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. You have fucked this up royally. I can't believe I ever trusted your site w/ my BTC and I will do everything I fucking can to make sure that no one else does again. People getting their funds back are the DRK users. Their funds have been returned because that is what the attacker has returned and it made more sense to give back those funds than to "hold onto them until everyone can get their funds back at the same time" because by returning those funds it shows that the problem is being worked on and the exchange is doing everything within it's power to make things right. When the attacker finishes returning the 76 BTC and 200.12 LTC that are still outstanding those people's funds will be returned as well. As we've been discussing in the chat box - if the admin were truly concerned, he would have immediately secured a loan yesterday and worried about recouping HIS losses from the thief on his own time. And... As I stated in the chatbox: Code: TribalBob: @SlidingHorn Do you realize what you sound like...? As I responded: Code: NOT MY PROBLEM - If he can't secure his site, the consequences are his to deal with Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 03:57:46 PM Update still waiting for tumbler funds, admin emailed me about 205LTC as well, trying to regain access to exchange with possible 91.5 ltc, here is the deal though, when I was getting funds out, I was concurrently making about 6-8 different accounts accross different exchanges, each using throw away email address, the only thing with this type of throwaway is if you do not access it for 24hours it will dissapear and you will lose access, so I am working to recoup everything. Also guys understand that I bought 1000's @.006 and above and some of those very same thousands for as low as .001 so you have to understand the margins here, all I ask for is some time, which is alot to ask for but I hope it will be given, also I'm not doing this to surpress retribution i'm doing this because it is the right thing to do. Nobody cares about the margins, what they want is for you to return exactly what you took out: Code: 2014-02-23 17:32:52 -17.21470165 BTC to 1CXGkyeG4G4mikPocmBtqh56WeXYhUm17E (430295a35a042a9dafa02a82d5d6002df1ba158b393602fd8045b7f4282507ad) btc 17.21470165 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: damx on February 25, 2014, 04:09:35 PM This is bullshit. There are users who were trading in the offending currency who are getting their BTC back before those of us who were not. UN-FUCKING-ACCEPTABLE. Wrong. They are getting their DRK back. Not BTC. They're still getting assets back when people who had absolutely fucking nothing to do with the scam are being left in the dark. You have fucked this up royally. I can't believe I ever trusted your site w/ my BTC and I will do everything I fucking can to make sure that no one else does again. People getting their funds back are the DRK users. Their funds have been returned because that is what the attacker has returned and it made more sense to give back those funds than to "hold onto them until everyone can get their funds back at the same time" because by returning those funds it shows that the problem is being worked on and the exchange is doing everything within it's power to make things right. When the attacker finishes returning the 76 BTC and 200.12 LTC that are still outstanding those people's funds will be returned as well. As we've been discussing in the chat box - if the admin were truly concerned, he would have immediately secured a loan yesterday and worried about recouping HIS losses from the thief on his own time. And... As I stated in the chatbox: Code: TribalBob: @SlidingHorn Do you realize what you sound like...? As I responded: Code: NOT MY PROBLEM - If he can't secure his site, the consequences are his to deal with The admin is trying to work it out, this is alot better then what happen at MtGox and other did, like Tradefortress, who after been hacked, just close the web site. No refund. I would guess waiting is better then having the admin shutdown the website? And if I were the admin, I would add impatient users to the end of the reimbursement list. As they only create bad noise and prevent the admin working on fixing the problem. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 04:10:57 PM Update still waiting for tumbler funds, admin emailed me about 205LTC as well, trying to regain access to exchange with possible 91.5 ltc, here is the deal though, when I was getting funds out, I was concurrently making about 6-8 different accounts accross different exchanges, each using throw away email address, the only thing with this type of throwaway is if you do not access it for 24hours it will dissapear and you will lose access, so I am working to recoup everything. Also guys understand that I bought 1000's @.006 and above and some of those very same thousands for as low as .001 so you have to understand the margins here, all I ask for is some time, which is alot to ask for but I hope it will be given, also I'm not doing this to surpress retribution i'm doing this because it is the right thing to do. As angry as I am with the admin's incompetence, I have no *personal* ill will toward him... On the other hand: You had better pray to whichever deity you think will listen that I never find out who you are, you fucking scumbag. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 04:14:27 PM And if I were the admin, I would add impatient users to the end of the reimbursement list. As they only create bad noise and prevent the admin working on fixing the problem. If you run an exchange that cannot secure people's money, you don't deserve to stay in business. If he closes due to "bad noise" he has only his own incompetence to blame. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 04:15:50 PM Update still waiting for tumbler funds, admin emailed me about 205LTC as well, trying to regain access to exchange with possible 91.5 ltc, here is the deal though, when I was getting funds out, I was concurrently making about 6-8 different accounts accross different exchanges, each using throw away email address, the only thing with this type of throwaway is if you do not access it for 24hours it will dissapear and you will lose access, so I am working to recoup everything. Also guys understand that I bought 1000's @.006 and above and some of those very same thousands for as low as .001 so you have to understand the margins here, all I ask for is some time, which is alot to ask for but I hope it will be given, also I'm not doing this to surpress retribution i'm doing this because it is the right thing to do. As angry as I am with the admin's incompetence, I have no *personal* ill will toward him... On the other hand: You had better pray to whichever deity you think will listen that I never find out who you are, you fucking scumbag. Oh noes!!! An internet tough-guy!!! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 04:16:30 PM And if I were the admin, I would add impatient users to the end of the reimbursement list. As they only create bad noise and prevent the admin working on fixing the problem. If you run an exchange that cannot secure people's money, you don't deserve to stay in business. If he closes due to "bad noise" he has only his own incompetence to blame. You DO realize that pretty much every exchange has been hacked before, right...? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 04:26:48 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 04:27:55 PM Ok so I'm a scumbag now, thanks If you steal from people, yes, that makes you a scumbag. If you don't know this already, I can't help you. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 04:34:10 PM Update still waiting for tumbler funds, admin emailed me about 205LTC as well, trying to regain access to exchange with possible 91.5 ltc, here is the deal though, when I was getting funds out, I was concurrently making about 6-8 different accounts accross different exchanges, each using throw away email address, the only thing with this type of throwaway is if you do not access it for 24hours it will dissapear and you will lose access, so I am working to recoup everything. Also guys understand that I bought 1000's @.006 and above and some of those very same thousands for as low as .001 so you have to understand the margins here, all I ask for is some time, which is alot to ask for but I hope it will be given, also I'm not doing this to surpress retribution i'm doing this because it is the right thing to do. You can change e-mails there. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 04:38:07 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 04:40:31 PM You know what, let's get something straight, I didn't steal, funds showed up in MY ACCOUNT, with a cryptocurrency that is marketed because of irreversable transactions how the hell does somebody steal that, My initial thought was somebody annon sent btc to the wrong deposit address, so I guess yea that could be classifed theft by receiving but not outright larceny. So really I have an extra hundred plus btc show up in my account and I buy dark and withdraw, why? because I couldn't withdraw the btc. I mean while I was doing it all i'm reading in the chat box the whole time is "somebody is pumping dark hard" and "oooh time to take good profits from dark" NOBODY ath the time was saying "where are my funds" "all my funds are gone" So at that point I still didn't know it was from the exchanges wallet. When I saw yesterday that the btc did in fact come from people I made the concious decision to send it back because I was able to see faces and names tied to the problem in stead of some mistyped btc transaction. So you know what I'm still waiting and I'm making an effort. Really though, i'm doing my best and I doubt the majority of you would do any such thing if you were in my shoes, you all would have took the money and split. I'm here, I'm trying, that is all. I have this thing called integrity which would compel me to start asking questions as soon as thousands of dollars in BTC that I knew weren't mine suddenly showed up in my wallet....NOT say "well I guess it's party time!" and start trading with it. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 04:42:28 PM You know what, let's get something straight, I didn't steal, funds showed up in MY ACCOUNT, with a cryptocurrency that is marketed because of irreversable transactions how the hell does somebody steal that, My initial thought was somebody annon sent btc to the wrong deposit address, so I guess yea that could be classifed theft by receiving but not outright larceny. So really I have an extra hundred plus btc show up in my account and I buy dark and withdraw, why? because I couldn't withdraw the btc. I mean while I was doing it all i'm reading in the chat box the whole time is "somebody is pumping dark hard" and "oooh time to take good profits from dark" NOBODY ath the time was saying "where are my funds" "all my funds are gone" So at that point I still didn't know it was from the exchanges wallet. When I saw yesterday that the btc did in fact come from people I made the concious decision to send it back because I was able to see faces and names tied to the problem in stead of some mistyped btc transaction. So you know what I'm still waiting and I'm making an effort. Really though, i'm doing my best and I doubt the majority of you would do any such thing if you were in my shoes, you all would have took the money and split. I'm here, I'm trying, that is all. Pay no attention to the idiot behind the curtain (SlidingHorn) nobody likes him anyway... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 04:49:28 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 04:55:09 PM SlidingHorn, I suggest you just keep quiet for now. You don't want to become the person known to have caused Lojack to change his mind. You're all right...how dare I object to my money being stolen and be angry with those responsible. I'm such a douche. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: frazersbitcoins on February 25, 2014, 04:59:48 PM 99% of the members will appreciate you returning what you can and the other 1% are just too stupid to realize you could have just gone on a nice long holiday instead of staying up all night trying to send back as much as you can.
People make mistakes, things happen and its how they respond to them that counts and you are doing the right thing so a big thumbs up from me. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 05:01:36 PM "SlidingHorn: LMAO @ you f**king guys...Site admin can't secure his site, gets ripped off, decides to depend on the "honor" of a thief instead of taking immediate steps to repay (i.e. loan), AND YOU'RE TRYING TO BLAME ME" You know what you little bitch, I've returned what i've had access to as i have had access to, I have handed over my fucking credentials to the site admin for the exchange where I did the dumping, fuck you I have honor, every statement I have made I stand by and have honored to fullest capacity, sorry you are perfect and never mess up, must be nice, but you know what I can't stand is people saying they would have been asking questions when I know the majority of people would have ran with the money, really I COULD HAVE left, I am here, it might not mean much to you, but I have been happy seeing people in the chatbox saying they are receiving their funds, and will continue to make an effort but man oh man you are a piece of work It may not mean much to that idiot, but what you are doing does mean a lot to the rest of us. The majority of us are grateful, please don't judge us all on the actions of one... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: mindfox on February 25, 2014, 05:03:25 PM Well, once more I see people rushing into putting labels...
Can any of the "accusers" give me the address of a single computer software that is "secure"? Please bare in mind that owners of small exchanges are the ones who helps new coins arise. Whether they will be a success or not... that's another story. But at least they have a chance, due to small exchanges. Do you want huge reserves and instant payment (instant? well, that's another story...) for your funds/coins/fiat? Try the big exchanges. But, then you should go and play with the big guys, with the known coins. So, instead of giving all small exchange owners a million reasons to stop providing their services, we should be trying to assist them anyway we can. Did c-cex stole anybody's btcs? Not that I know of. At least a dozen users I know in that exchange, never had a problem with their transactions there. Did c-cex kept anything in secret? No and he took responsibility (which is what means "trust") and promised to recover everybody's btc amount. Is the owner of c-cex a reach man (btc wise)? I can't answer that, but I'm gonna give him the time needed to fulfill his promise instead of trying to spread rumors of "untrustfull" service, etc... If I remember correctly, we are a community. We need each other in order to succeed, right? Pointing fingers is not what I would call "community", is it? For what my opinion counts, I vote for c-cex and will give the owner the time he needs to recover my btcs. I hope others will do the same, so that - at least - we won't make his work even harder than it is now. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: frazersbitcoins on February 25, 2014, 05:10:52 PM Well, once more I see people rushing into putting labels... Can any of the "accusers" give me the address of a single computer software that is "secure"? Please bare in mind that owners of small exchanges are the ones who helps new coins arise. Whether they will be a success or not... that's another story. But at least they have a chance, due to small exchanges. Do you want huge reserves and instant payment (instant? well, that's another story...) for your funds/coins/fiat? Try the big exchanges. But, then you should go and play with the big guys, with the known coins. So, instead of giving all small exchange owners a million reasons to stop providing their services, we should be trying to assist them anyway we can. Did c-cex stole anybody's btcs? Not that I know of. At least a dozen users I know in that exchange, never had a problem with their transactions there. Did c-cex kept anything in secret? No and he took responsibility (which is what means "trust") and promised to recover everybody's btc amount. Is the owner of c-cex a reach man (btc wise)? I can't answer that, but I'm gonna give him the time needed to fulfill his promise instead of trying to spread rumors of "untrustfull" service, etc... If I remember correctly, we are a community. We need each other in order to succeed, right? Pointing fingers is not what I would call "community", is it? For what my opinion counts, I vote for c-cex and will give the owner the time he needs to recover my btcs. I hope others will do the same, so that - at least - we won't make his work even harder than it is now. Well said...C-cex was doing a great job until this happened and admin is doing all he can to try and get back on track and with a bit of loyal support I am sure he will do everything he can. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: deerough on February 25, 2014, 05:11:35 PM SlidingHorn, I suggest you just keep quiet for now. You don't want to become the person known to have caused Lojack to change his mind. You're all right...how dare I object to my money being stolen and be angry with those responsible. I'm such a douche. I agree with u. U are being a douche now. Most of us have moved passed our anger and frustration because we now now what is going on. Nothing like this can be solved immediately. Nothing we can do but wait and ask for updates. If in the end u don't think your balances are what they should be then support will review. You are not the only one affected and your attitude will only bump u lower in the list. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 05:11:49 PM Well, once more I see people rushing into putting labels... Can any of the "accusers" give me the address of a single computer software that is "secure"? Please bare in mind that owners of small exchanges are the ones who helps new coins arise. Whether they will be a success or not... that's another story. But at least they have a chance, due to small exchanges. Do you want huge reserves and instant payment (instant? well, that's another story...) for your funds/coins/fiat? Try the big exchanges. But, then you should go and play with the big guys, with the known coins. So, instead of giving all small exchange owners a million reasons to stop providing their services, we should be trying to assist them anyway we can. Did c-cex stole anybody's btcs? Not that I know of. At least a dozen users I know in that exchange, never had a problem with their transactions there. Did c-cex kept anything in secret? No and he took responsibility (which is what means "trust") and promised to recover everybody's btc amount. Is the owner of c-cex a reach man (btc wise)? I can't answer that, but I'm gonna give him the time needed to fulfill his promise instead of trying to spread rumors of "untrustfull" service, etc... If I remember correctly, we are a community. We need each other in order to succeed, right? Pointing fingers is not what I would call "community", is it? For what my opinion counts, I vote for c-cex and will give the owner the time he needs to recover my btcs. I hope others will do the same, so that - at least - we won't make his work even harder than it is now. +1 for what I think is probably the most intelligent thing said so far in this thread... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 25, 2014, 05:18:19 PM 99% of the members will appreciate you returning what you can and the other 1% are just too stupid to realize you could have just gone on a nice long holiday instead of staying up all night trying to send back as much as you can. People make mistakes, things happen and its how they respond to them that counts and you are doing the right thing so a big thumbs up from me. +1 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 05:21:05 PM Well said...C-cex was doing a great job until this happened and admin is doing all he can to try and get back on track and with a bit of loyal support I am sure he will do everything he can. This is where I think you guys are all incorrect. He has NOT done "all he can". "All he can" would have included at least ATTEMPTING* to secure a loan to repay people. He has not done this. Everyone could have been paid by now. *TribalBob brought up the point that no one would lend to a hacked exchange - I disagree. If shown what steps were taken to secure the site, I have no doubt that, given collateral, a loan could be secured. Either way, it would have been preferable for the admin to at least TRY. I'm keeping (somewhat) quiet - Only chiming in again when people feel the need to tell me how I should feel / react to my money being stolen. You guys can be as dismissive about it as you'd like - I'm not wound that way. Sorry. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 05:21:36 PM SlidingHorn, I suggest you just keep quiet for now. You don't want to become the person known to have caused Lojack to change his mind. You're all right...how dare I object to my money being stolen and be angry with those responsible. I'll give any one of you my home address....get some. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 05:32:30 PM Go ahead and PM that to me in case you can't control yourself in this delicate situation. Your name would be appreciated as well since you're so forthcoming. Thanks. Done...feel free to let me know when to expect you. Bring your kevlar. EDIT: lol @ you thinking I'd be afraid of you. ::) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 06:09:17 PM lojack - Which tumbler service did you use?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 25, 2014, 06:12:14 PM SlidingHorn, I suggest you just keep quiet for now. You don't want to become the person known to have caused Lojack to change his mind. You're all right...how dare I object to my money being stolen and be angry with those responsible. I'm such a douche. People are asking you to stop making things worse. You're blathering is actually hindering the process of you (and the rest of us who have lost more) receiving your coins back. The fact that you keep running your mouth without any patience is what makes you appear to be a douche. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 25, 2014, 06:13:31 PM [18:34:39] Blajde ッ: any news on why my withdrawal doesn't work?
[18:35:02] C-CEX.com: You need to fill BTC credit back then withdraw [18:36:34] Blajde ッ: how do I do that and what does that mean? [18:37:08] C-CEX.com: You used that BTC. I returned Your DRK - so give back those BTC [18:40:51] Blajde ッ: but mate, that's not possible.. I don't have any btc I only have DRK..and you want me to trade at this lower fee and lose 25% of my value so I can withdraw my less valueable DRK because of a misstake you had in your code? Telll me what grounds are you basing this on? [18:43:23] C-CEX.com: so change DRK to BTC [18:43:30] C-CEX.com: You had that BTC didn't You [18:45:46] Blajde ッ: by most lawbooks it points toward you taking the hit here even offering your own money to finalize all trades. The users are not to be blaimed or even held accounted for the hole in your code. Using the revert system is unfair. What about those people who bought high in the wave due to the fraud? The lost money, and how are they compensated for their loss? [18:46:00] Blajde ッ: Check my order history and tell cause I can't make it out Blajde: I have -0,53BTC and made a trade inbetween freezing of funds.. I traded my btc for a higher price than the current. So now I am stuck with less DRK than I need to convert to BTC to get my leess valuable DRK out? is that a joke? Support: @Blajde, You get exactly You had. And we ask to return exactly You take Blajde: @Support, that would only work if you could revert my trade at 0.0016 ? otherwise it is my loss.. Now I have to wait for DRK to rise in value to get my DRK out? ----- the silence continues Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 06:14:59 PM SlidingHorn, I suggest you just keep quiet for now. You don't want to become the person known to have caused Lojack to change his mind. You're all right...how dare I object to my money being stolen and be angry with those responsible. I'm such a douche. People are asking you to stop making things worse. You're blathering is actually hindering the process of you (and the rest of us who have lost more) receiving your coins back. The fact that you keep running your mouth without any patience is what makes you appear to be a douche. Pay attention dude...I've been pretty quiet for a while now. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 06:17:48 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 25, 2014, 06:19:11 PM SlidingHorn, I suggest you just keep quiet for now. You don't want to become the person known to have caused Lojack to change his mind. You're all right...how dare I object to my money being stolen and be angry with those responsible. I'm such a douche. People are asking you to stop making things worse. You're blathering is actually hindering the process of you (and the rest of us who have lost more) receiving your coins back. The fact that you keep running your mouth without any patience is what makes you appear to be a douche. Pay attention dude...I've been pretty quiet for a while now. I call BS... you've replied to everyone. Even those not talking to you. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 06:23:04 PM [18:34:39] Blajde ッ: any news on why my withdrawal doesn't work? [18:35:02] C-CEX.com: You need to fill BTC credit back then withdraw [18:36:34] Blajde ッ: how do I do that and what does that mean? [18:37:08] C-CEX.com: You used that BTC. I returned Your DRK - so give back those BTC [18:40:51] Blajde ッ: but mate, that's not possible.. I don't have any btc I only have DRK..and you want me to trade at this lower fee and lose 25% of my value so I can withdraw my less valueable DRK because of a misstake you had in your code? Telll me what grounds are you basing this on? [18:43:23] C-CEX.com: so change DRK to BTC [18:43:30] C-CEX.com: You had that BTC didn't You [18:45:46] Blajde ッ: by most lawbooks it points toward you taking the hit here even offering your own money to finalize all trades. The users are not to be blaimed or even held accounted for the hole in your code. Using the revert system is unfair. What about those people who bought high in the wave due to the fraud? The lost money, and how are they compensated for their loss? [18:46:00] Blajde ッ: Check my order history and tell cause I can't make it out Blajde: I have -0,53BTC and made a trade inbetween freezing of funds.. I traded my btc for a higher price than the current. So now I am stuck with less DRK than I need to convert to BTC to get my leess valuable DRK out? is that a joke? Support: @Blajde, You get exactly You had. And we ask to return exactly You take Blajde: @Support, that would only work if you could revert my trade at 0.0016 ? otherwise it is my loss.. Now I have to wait for DRK to rise in value to get my DRK out? ----- the silence continues If it was earned from the fraudulent tx's and you withdrew it or traded it, your missing balance will stay as it is until you reach a n even or positive balance by trading and/or depositing since you have already received the BTC and withdrew it or otherwise used it. You can't expect to have your DRK returned to you AND be allowed to keep the BTC earned from those tx's as well... As far as the difference in prices, this is the most fair option to all parties involved since the exchange can't realistically be expected to return funds that it does not have. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: trogdorjw73 on February 25, 2014, 06:23:37 PM So my particular sale of DRK for BTC has been reversed and I have the DRK back. Thankfully I wasn't buying DRK with BTC or I think I may have ended up with a bunch of DRK and a BTC deficit? Anyway, the refunding of my DRK and removal of my BTC went through okay, except the BTC reversal didn't account for the exchange's 0.2% trading fees, leaving me with a small negative BTC balance. Given we're only talking about $6 or so, I'm not too concerned at this point, but C-CEX you'll want to pay attention on any remaining reversals and ensure you don't reverse more than was taken.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 06:26:38 PM Pay attention dude...I've been pretty quiet for a while now. I call BS... you've replied to everyone. Even those not talking to you. I'll rephrase - I've not been complaining / talking shit for a while now - with one exception, and it was a sidebar not involving the admin or "the person who had the coins" Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 25, 2014, 06:28:16 PM [18:34:39] Blajde ッ: any news on why my withdrawal doesn't work? [18:35:02] C-CEX.com: You need to fill BTC credit back then withdraw [18:36:34] Blajde ッ: how do I do that and what does that mean? [18:37:08] C-CEX.com: You used that BTC. I returned Your DRK - so give back those BTC [18:40:51] Blajde ッ: but mate, that's not possible.. I don't have any btc I only have DRK..and you want me to trade at this lower fee and lose 25% of my value so I can withdraw my less valueable DRK because of a misstake you had in your code? Telll me what grounds are you basing this on? [18:43:23] C-CEX.com: so change DRK to BTC [18:43:30] C-CEX.com: You had that BTC didn't You [18:45:46] Blajde ッ: by most lawbooks it points toward you taking the hit here even offering your own money to finalize all trades. The users are not to be blaimed or even held accounted for the hole in your code. Using the revert system is unfair. What about those people who bought high in the wave due to the fraud? The lost money, and how are they compensated for their loss? [18:46:00] Blajde ッ: Check my order history and tell cause I can't make it out Blajde: I have -0,53BTC and made a trade inbetween freezing of funds.. I traded my btc for a higher price than the current. So now I am stuck with less DRK than I need to convert to BTC to get my leess valuable DRK out? is that a joke? Support: @Blajde, You get exactly You had. And we ask to return exactly You take Blajde: @Support, that would only work if you could revert my trade at 0.0016 ? otherwise it is my loss.. Now I have to wait for DRK to rise in value to get my DRK out? ----- the silence continues If it was earned from the fraudulent tx's and you withdrew it or traded it, your missing balance will stay as it is until you reach a n even or positive balance by trading and/or depositing since you have already received the BTC and withdrew it or otherwise used it. You can't expect to have your DRK returned to you AND be allowed to keep the BTC earned from those tx's as well... As far as the difference in prices, this is the most fair option to all parties involved since the exchange can't realistically be expected to return funds that it does not have. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip. I am not.. All I am saying is that if you revert trades over a period of time you have to do it for all trades during that time period since all trades are entangled. I accept that I didn't make any profit, I accept that I have to wait for unreasonable long time for my funds to be cleared, I accept that trades are reverted But I don't accept that I have to spend more time, be dependent on market, sell at a loss, lose on transaction fees just to get my old valued funds out? It's just not ok Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: frazersbitcoins on February 25, 2014, 06:29:16 PM So my particular sale of DRK for BTC has been reversed and I have the DRK back. Thankfully I wasn't buying DRK with BTC or I think I may have ended up with a bunch of DRK and a BTC deficit? Anyway, the refunding of my DRK and removal of my BTC went through okay, except the BTC reversal didn't account for the exchange's 0.2% trading fees, leaving me with a small negative BTC balance. Given we're only talking about $6 or so, I'm not too concerned at this point, but C-CEX you'll want to pay attention on any remaining reversals and ensure you don't reverse more than was taken. If you message support and the rest of the transactions were all OK then I am sure he will fix your minus btc for the fees. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: elitemobb on February 25, 2014, 06:53:43 PM What is it with this "community" in particular that always leads to the words "fraud" or "scam" or "fake"?
C-Cex has always done an outstanding job with handling transactions and doing the fair thing in the event of an issue. They have never buckled under pressure and have always owned up to any mistakes or issues. Is it aggravating to be put in a position where you have a currency tied up (or possibly in a lesser value state). Of course it is. Its inconvenient, its uncomfortable and most of all its scary but that doesn't change the fact it happened and it has to be fixed. This is a risk we all take trading on site such as this and its one that we have all accepted by trading on these sites. This isnt the first site to have some sort of issue and its not the last but (in most cases) they are not out to scam or defraud anyone and are simply trying to provide a useful service to those seeking the services they provide.. Calm down.. be patient and everything will work out in the end. C-Cex keep up the good work. We know you will fix the issue and will ultimately do the right thing. You always have! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ExD on February 25, 2014, 07:19:54 PM Got back my drk that was sold during this event(my limit order was hit), support was responsive and tried to minimize demage. No insane profits, but at least don't have losses except inability to trade for some time. Hope exchange will solve the rest of the problems.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 07:28:15 PM except inability to trade for some time. Hope exchange will solve the rest of the problems. Thank You! Why don't You able to trade? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 07:29:44 PM What is it with this "community" in particular that always leads to the words "fraud" or "scam" or "fake"? Seeing things like this on an almost daily basis doesn't help: (sorry...had to) Quote C-Cex has always done an outstanding job with handling transactions and doing the fair thing in the event of an issue I just disagree here. To be frank, the guy who took the BTC has seemingly done more to bring resolution to C-Cex's customers than the site admin himself. I guess I could go on and on about how differently I'd handle things, but I still can't get past the fact that no attempt was ever made to secure a loan, etc. Things are in the works...I get it. I'm waiting much more patiently than before, but I still feel it's a legitimate criticism. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ExD on February 25, 2014, 07:41:44 PM except inability to trade for some time. Hope exchange will solve the rest of the problems. Thank You! Why don't You able to trade? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 07:49:17 PM except inability to trade for some time. Hope exchange will solve the rest of the problems. Thank You! Why don't You able to trade? I believe he is referring to the inability to trade during the time his account was frozen... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 07:55:23 PM Anyone have an update on the status of the BTC going through the tumbler at this point?
It's been quite a while now. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 07:57:15 PM Anyone have an update on the status of the BTC going through the tumbler at this point? It's been quite a while now. As of ~90 minutes ago lojack was still waiting on BTC from tumbler. lojack - What is the status of ~200 LTC waiting to be returned...? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 08:08:08 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 08:17:23 PM Haven't been able to gain access to those LTC's, it looks like there is still 91 in the balance. Only thing is I made the account with a throw away email, and can't reset my password or username because the email is passed it's 24hour expiration date. I am still awaiting the tumbler funds as well. I'm really sorry about all of this nonsense everyone. You can't access the account, but you can tell there is still 91 LTC in it...? At any rate, contact the exchange's admin, explain the situation and provide the information you signed up with (especially if it's info only YOU the owner could know). Offer to make another small deposit to the account using an address you control and have used to deposit to that account before or offer to use "signmessage" from the Litecoin address you used to deposit the coins so you can prove ownership and gain access to the account. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 08:20:15 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 08:22:52 PM How I found out there is 91 ltc, googled ltc blockchain, copied and pasted address that ltc were sent to, and it said the balance has 91.14 http://block-explorer.com/address/LYDCvgmBR5oAs5oSMbRHPdR84KGeas2qb9, and ok i will Thanks, I (and I'm sure MANY more of us) appreciate that! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 08:41:40 PM ccex, any truth to the rumor that you are selling recovered DRK to compensate people missing BTC? Pretty sure the only coins that C-CEX is selling are MINTs and that was decided after asking the users of the exchange what should be done with the MINTs that lojack provided to the exchange. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 08:56:01 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 08:58:01 PM Ok really, people are talking about doxing me, that is fine with me, I will tell everyone what happened who asks, fact is I can't return things I don't have access to, so please tribal short save everyone the suspense and dox me, I will continue to wait for funds but in the mean time dox me because really i'm ok with it. I had said that yesterday when it wasn't clear yet to me what was going on. Since you've been actively responding, I can't really say that would be necessary or (seemingly, at this time) deserved. I don't know of any other dox suggestions besides my own yesterday... Edit: I hadn't seen the chat box on C-Cex. I think they'd only consider it if the issue didn't get resolved. People were more willing to attack me for insulting you than to attack you, yourself - I think you're safe. Hell, already one member has my address and may be expected for dinner :D Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 08:59:14 PM lojack - All I will share is this (edited for your privacy):
Code: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 30:85:a9:07:**:** Also: Mr ****, I'd love to have a chat with you sometime about the state of the VUIT merger. I recently moved on from ITS to a position with Yahoo!/Tumblr and really hated to make the move but with the state of the environment there I, like many others, felt I had no choice. The road ahead of you is going to be very rocky as there is a very real animosity between the two departments. I fully agree with you that this has been a long time coming and definitely needs to be done and there will be many issues. There is one that I hold dear and I am bringing it to your attention so that a grievous disaster might be averted. I was a Network Operations Analyst(noc monkey) for the university side and had the opportunity to help out on the openDCIM project that was started by a former manager of the University data center, Scott M******. OpenDCIM has become one of the leading datacenter information management tools in the industry today and I honestly believe it would be a disaster to lose V********* as a consumer. OpenDCIM started out with the goal of tracking the assets in the University data center and has evolved into a fantastic management tool for power tracking and planning as well as network connection management. We've currently got confirmed installs in more than 30 countries and are actively working on new features regularly. Before I left there were rumblings as to all homegrown software packages were going to have off the shelf solutions found and used as replacements. I hope that when it comes to the datacenters openDCIM will not be lumped into the homegrown solutions pile and be evaluated fairly. openDCIM has been vital to the university to allow for agile transitions in the datacenter layout and much of what we have done the last 5 years would not have been possible without it. I understand that there is some hesitation on where to get support and how much it will cost to support it. There isn't an easy answer but the most common is it will cost you the time of some of your unix staff to maintain the existing mysql servers as they do now and occasionally apply an update when we release them. The updates are purely optional but we have been trying to add new features with each release. I personally am willing to donate my time to support V******** on any critical issues that it might have, but if you need a line item for support I charge $50/hr consulting time. The data is documented and open to any other custom reporting needs that people could possibly want and there is no charge per datacenter. With our recent additions to allow zoning and containers it is possible to have multiple datacenters in a single install. We are looking to release 3.2 in the coming weeks which will add in realistic device views for the cabinets. This feature as trivial as it seems is one that many people have asked for and sets us apart from the many commercial products that cost tens of thousands of dollars. I'd love to talk to you about the mass exodus of people you have surely noticed from the IT group but I am afraid there isn't much you can do to fix that situation immediately. I wish I could have had this chat prior to leaving N******** but since I worked overnights I wasn't ever able to attend your round tables or any of the all hands meetings. Sincerely, Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 09:10:52 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 09:11:20 PM smh so sad.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 09:16:00 PM Ok I really don't understand any of that, have no idea actually. Really, I have no hacking skills whatsoever this whole thing was as follows tried to withdraw btc, btc withdrawal error please contact support, pressed the back button, tried again to withdraw again, bam multiple btc. So really I am asking you to Dox me cause frankly I've spent alot of time trying to remedy this(still trying) stay up very late, waking up very early to fix it, and everytime I go quiet it is oh know he better not mess up or I'll dox him, what is doxing me going to do anyways, wow public shame big whoop I can handle that, police report for bitcoins I don't have access to big whoop I can handle that too, so really I have nothing to lose in this situation, I'm not ashamed of a websites incompetence nor am I ashamed that people's greed and ignorance(myself included) decided to hold large amounts of funds on said website, I'm not ashamed of myself for trying to recoup everything once I realized what happened. So I ask you please dox me or continue to make threats of doxing me it really does not matter to me. come on, your average joe isnt making accounts with throw away emails and using onion services to tumble ill gotten btc. Idc what you are trying to do, its what you did and what you do that makes you who you are. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 09:22:21 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 25, 2014, 09:26:34 PM ok and your average joe is using a crypto currency period, your average joe doesn't know what a bitcoin is, but yea you are right, our mistakes define who we are, so that is fine you feel like that, like I said i've been very transparent in this whole situation, I do regret that I made a mistake, but I am not ashamed at how I have followed up and tried to handle it. Do You have updates on BTC ? Should people count on them? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 09:28:38 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 09:29:32 PM Ok I really don't understand any of that, have no idea actually. Really, I have no hacking skills whatsoever this whole thing was as follows tried to withdraw btc, btc withdrawal error please contact support, pressed the back button, tried again to withdraw again, bam multiple btc. So really I am asking you to Dox me cause frankly I've spent alot of time trying to remedy this(still trying) stay up very late, waking up very early to fix it, and everytime I go quiet it is oh know he better not mess up or I'll dox him, what is doxing me going to do anyways, wow public shame big whoop I can handle that, police report for bitcoins I don't have access to big whoop I can handle that too, so really I have nothing to lose in this situation, I'm not ashamed of a websites incompetence nor am I ashamed that people's greed and ignorance(myself included) decided to hold large amounts of funds on said website, I'm not ashamed of myself for trying to recoup everything once I realized what happened. So I ask you please dox me or continue to make threats of doxing me it really does not matter to me. The point of doxing someone is more to give others a means to find them in real life. Essentially you publicly post anything you can find out about them: Name, address, workplace, phone numbers, etc. etc. Again - I really don't see it happening. You appear to be working toward a solution regardless of the original lapse in judgment. So long as that continues, I really don't see any reason why someone would try to come after you in some way. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 09:32:16 PM ok and your average joe is using a crypto currency period, your average joe doesn't know what a bitcoin is, but yea you are right, our mistakes define who we are, so that is fine you feel like that, like I said i've been very transparent in this whole situation, I do regret that I made a mistake, but I am not ashamed at how I have followed up and tried to handle it. Ones past actions most certainly define who they are in the present as do their present actions. Tries and attempts dont amount for a hill of beans, I dont care how you try to handle it, I only care how you do handle it. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 09:35:07 PM I just emailed this to you 5mins ago "I'm still waiting, as are you, I see everybody has given up and is going to dox me, that is fine I really could care less but I what I want to say to you in this whole situation is thank you. You have been very understanding and cooperative in a situation where I was very fearful and just trying to do what is right. I'll continue to wait for the tumbler and reply to you. Tell tribalbob thank you as well, he has been very understanding during this process as well and I guess the mob mentality just got to him. Anyways still working to get ltc back and will deposit btc when tumbler funds arrive" Just so you know m8, I'm not mad, I'm still of the opinion that you will come through. I only provided the DOX info because you told me to post it. I wasn't threatening to DOX you, I had ALREADY DOXed you and was going to pursue the info I had if you decided to run with what you've got left. No ill-will from here unless you decide to screw us, I'm doing my best to keep this civil from all sides. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on February 25, 2014, 09:36:17 PM Gave me a scare, thought you meant CEX.IO, the exchange where you buy mining power.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 09:38:53 PM Gave me a scare, thought you meant CEX.IO, the exchange where you buy mining power. Haha. nono this is c-cex.com where you buy magic internet money :P well buy and then have it stolen. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 25, 2014, 09:41:36 PM Gave me a scare, thought you meant CEX.IO, the exchange where you buy mining power. Haha. nono this is c-cex.com where you buy magic internet money :P well buy and then have it stolen. To be fair: I don't believe any MIM was stolen.... ;D Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 09:43:15 PM Gave me a scare, thought you meant CEX.IO, the exchange where you buy mining power. Haha. nono this is c-cex.com where you buy magic internet money :P well buy and then have it stolen. To be fair: I don't believe any MIM was stolen.... ;D That is very true! Shameless self plug. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 09:44:00 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 25, 2014, 09:53:12 PM I just want my btc unfroze. I didnt even trade a single dark.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 25, 2014, 11:18:01 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 25, 2014, 11:31:13 PM Ok let me get this straight, you really think i'm a hacker, wow. Next thing, everything I've returned thus far is equal 66btc @ current market value but if the dark is exchanged @ .0019-2(the value It has been trading at) then that is 72btc in valuel. I just don't see the logic to take that much and return half of it without the intention of returning the full ammount. Buying time makes no sense, I've been communicating with everyone not to buy time, but to fix it. I was the only person out of 2700 that noticed my btc balance went up, I can't read code so there was no explotation like that. It was 1. me trying to withdraw btc 2. receiving error message 3. pressing the back button 4. clicking the withdrawal link that I just backedspaced too 5. now in top right hand corner btc show 100+ amount. That is the whole "hacking process" I mean really it was akin to not having a page load pressing refresh and bam 100+btc. In my opinion that is not a hack that is clearly a malfunctioning website as when I was initiallly withdrawing btc I had no malicious intent, i was just trying to arb profits from here to polo that is all. Not my fault the website malfunctions and fills up my bitcoin wallet. I am doing my best to return them as I get access to them. I understand you have my ip address that is fine. Like I said I have nothing to be ashamed of and will have my day in court if it comes down to it. I would rather handle this as we have been but I know people are angry and a day in court may be the best path for those that see fit. Here are the forums terms and conditions, I am interested in knowing which tort outlined in the terms and conditions that I will be accused and for which you plan to pursue montary or psychological damages for. Honestly I don't see a tort outlined that I have committed but this may just be my untrained legal eye. Lastly I see you deleted your message while I was writing this, why not keep it up I'm not trying to hide anything nor should you. I will remain in contact. Rules Registration rules To use C-CEX.com Exchange registration is required. Login, password and real Email is needed for registration. During the registration procedure an activation email will be sent and you will be required to click an activation link to complete registration. After clicking the activation link your will have full access to all sections of the exchange Trading rules Trading by virtual currencies (cryptocurrencies) are made by creating buy or sell orders for those cryptocurrencies by giving a total of buy or sell quantity and prefferable rate. After order being created it's automatically matched against existing orders and if any found - then transaction will occur. If order is not completed or completed in full - then it waits in an active state until matching order can complete request. If the buying rate of an order is higher than any existing lowest rate of a sell order - then transaction will be made by this existing sell order. For example: if an order is created to buy BTC by rate 1000 and there exists a sell order by rate 950 - then transaction will be made by the 950 rate. Same rule works for new sell orders: For example if a sell order is made for rate of 950 and there is an existing buy order at a rate of 1000 then order will proceed at the higher rate. You can cancel Your current order at any time. An order that has been executed can not be reversed. The exchange fee is 0.2% of incoming funds from transactions. Rounding rules All roundings are made to 8 digit after comma in favor to Exchange. Cryptocurrency deposit and withdrawal rules All cryptocurrencies are deposited by sending the amount to the Exchange's generated users address. These addresses are generated on demand by clicking "New address" in the "Funds" section. Cryptocurrency withdrawals are made at the "Withdrawal" interface in the "Funds" section by sending available amount to desired address. All cryptocurrency deposits and withdrawals are automatic and initiated instantly. All possible delays with transfering funds after successful withdrawal are not related to Exchange. Successful withdrawals are always confirmed by transaction ID. Rules for transfering funds between Exchange users To transfer funds between Exchange users there is C-CEX-codes implemented. C-CEX-code can be generated by user at the "Funds" section and after that it becomes an equivalent of mentioned amount and currency. C-CEX-codes can be shared to other Exchange users. Funds in equivalent of C-CEX-code can be redeemed to user's account at the "Funds" section. Redeemed C-CEX-codes are not reversable. There are no fees for deposit and withdrawal funds by C-CEX-codes. Fiat funds deposit and withdrawal rules Fiat funds can be deposited via the "Deposit" interface in the "Fiat funds" subsection of the "Funds" section. Deposit of fiat funds are made through partners in automatic mode. Withdrawal of available fiat funds is possible in the "Withdrawal" of "Fiat funds" subsection of the "Funds" section. Withdrawals are made in semi-automatic mode. Withdrawal times are up to 48 hours during working business days. Chat rules Any words that can be interpreted as abuse or discrimination of any kind are prohibited. Any kind of advertisment and links that can be counted as advertisment are prohibited. Exchange deals using chat are prohibited. For breaking these rules the Exchange reserves the right to ban any user from chat or suspend user account without right to recover. API rules API is intended for automated data analysis and trades. Allowed average frequency of requests is up to 100 per minute. API can not be used for orderbook spam by setting big amount of small orders repeatedly. This policy rules Current rules can be updated without commitment to users of this service, but must be published on this page. Hold Funds hold can be initiated by exchange in case of discrepancy of trading rates, volumes and balances. Hold is affected currencies involved in such discrepancies. Funds holded under this rules can be released after detailed investigating of incident. You're right m8. I realized my comment was premature and decided you should be given the benefit of the doubt which is exactly why I had removed it even before you responded. I wasn't trying to "hide" anything. You seem to be doing the upstanding thing and for the moment, I have no beef with you. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: anonymousxx1503 on February 26, 2014, 01:35:18 AM Ok let me get this straight, you really think i'm a hacker, wow. Next thing, everything I've returned thus far is equal 66btc @ current market value but if the dark is exchanged @ .0019-2(the value It has been trading at) then that is 72btc in valuel. I just don't see the logic to take that much and return half of it without the intention of returning the full ammount. Buying time makes no sense, I've been communicating with everyone not to buy time, but to fix it. I was the only person out of 2700 that noticed my btc balance went up, I can't read code so there was no explotation like that. It was 1. me trying to withdraw btc 2. receiving error message 3. pressing the back button 4. clicking the withdrawal link that I just backedspaced too 5. now in top right hand corner btc show 100+ amount. That is the whole "hacking process" I mean really it was akin to not having a page load pressing refresh and bam 100+btc. In my opinion that is not a hack that is clearly a malfunctioning website as when I was initiallly withdrawing btc I had no malicious intent, i was just trying to arb profits from here to polo that is all. Not my fault the website malfunctions and fills up my bitcoin wallet. I am doing my best to return them as I get access to them. I understand you have my ip address that is fine. Like I said I have nothing to be ashamed of and will have my day in court if it comes down to it. I would rather handle this as we have been but I know people are angry and a day in court may be the best path for those that see fit. Here are the forums terms and conditions, I am interested in knowing which tort outlined in the terms and conditions that I will be accused and for which you plan to pursue montary or psychological damages for. Honestly I don't see a tort outlined that I have committed but this may just be my untrained legal eye. Lastly I see you deleted your message while I was writing this, why not keep it up I'm not trying to hide anything nor should you. I will remain in contact. Rules Registration rules To use C-CEX.com Exchange registration is required. Login, password and real Email is needed for registration. During the registration procedure an activation email will be sent and you will be required to click an activation link to complete registration. After clicking the activation link your will have full access to all sections of the exchange Trading rules Trading by virtual currencies (cryptocurrencies) are made by creating buy or sell orders for those cryptocurrencies by giving a total of buy or sell quantity and prefferable rate. After order being created it's automatically matched against existing orders and if any found - then transaction will occur. If order is not completed or completed in full - then it waits in an active state until matching order can complete request. If the buying rate of an order is higher than any existing lowest rate of a sell order - then transaction will be made by this existing sell order. For example: if an order is created to buy BTC by rate 1000 and there exists a sell order by rate 950 - then transaction will be made by the 950 rate. Same rule works for new sell orders: For example if a sell order is made for rate of 950 and there is an existing buy order at a rate of 1000 then order will proceed at the higher rate. You can cancel Your current order at any time. An order that has been executed can not be reversed. The exchange fee is 0.2% of incoming funds from transactions. Rounding rules All roundings are made to 8 digit after comma in favor to Exchange. Cryptocurrency deposit and withdrawal rules All cryptocurrencies are deposited by sending the amount to the Exchange's generated users address. These addresses are generated on demand by clicking "New address" in the "Funds" section. Cryptocurrency withdrawals are made at the "Withdrawal" interface in the "Funds" section by sending available amount to desired address. All cryptocurrency deposits and withdrawals are automatic and initiated instantly. All possible delays with transfering funds after successful withdrawal are not related to Exchange. Successful withdrawals are always confirmed by transaction ID. Rules for transfering funds between Exchange users To transfer funds between Exchange users there is C-CEX-codes implemented. C-CEX-code can be generated by user at the "Funds" section and after that it becomes an equivalent of mentioned amount and currency. C-CEX-codes can be shared to other Exchange users. Funds in equivalent of C-CEX-code can be redeemed to user's account at the "Funds" section. Redeemed C-CEX-codes are not reversable. There are no fees for deposit and withdrawal funds by C-CEX-codes. 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API can not be used for orderbook spam by setting big amount of small orders repeatedly. This policy rules Current rules can be updated without commitment to users of this service, but must be published on this page. Hold Funds hold can be initiated by exchange in case of discrepancy of trading rates, volumes and balances. Hold is affected currencies involved in such discrepancies. Funds holded under this rules can be released after detailed investigating of incident. Listen, as long as you intend to return as much as possible, everything will work out not too bad. Just one thing though https://i.imgur.com/RTK8Gpw.jpg The value is not 0.0019 anymore, it's half that right now, you've taken off half the market cap off dark by yourself. Stop dumping for fucks sake.. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: tungfa on February 26, 2014, 01:51:45 AM I do not believe a word coming out of your mouth … but so be it ….
just get it over with and finnish your sales as the markets are a mess (tx to you) and stop playing your stupid trader games with pushing prices up and the dumping ! we trying to get on with our lives and coins here …..>> Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: FL123 on February 26, 2014, 03:50:33 AM as I have been pointing before, someone is having a fresh daily source of almost free coins, I think is someone manipulating the mining network, thats why a lot of people are having orphan blocks and yeah a pool controlling 80% of hashrate can do this with other separate entities so is not that obvious. I think what happened on C-Cex is only correlated for the massive pump and 1 dump on poloniex but I have witnessed and participating in the buying of 14 more dumps in the .0010, .0009 and now .0005. The number the dumper chooses is correlated with the btc bounty, if someone putts an ammount above 20 btc in .0005(buy order) the guy will sell at that price.
The first dump is as old as when you guys reached the .0024 level for the first time, we just didn't notice them bc the market recuperates really fast(les than 3 mins) at those crazy prices. if I had to guess, what hapened on c-cex had something to do with XCP hacker or the poloniex owner destroying competition bc he was attacked before with this bug and therefore familiar with it, steal from competition and launder your money in your exchange. 2. what is happening now with pools will have to do with the dev or someone in his team or someone found a way to use litecoin asics on dark and is exploting this ussing different users and solo mining to hide this. basically the dumper can withdraw easily BTC from poloniex but not crypsy or C-cex, so the guys that buy at those cheap levels are laundering his btc by selling them on crypsy and rebuying on polo. all theory...... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Vitadream on February 26, 2014, 04:16:05 AM c-cex, Я cнoвa oтпpaвил нecкoлькo cooбщeний пocлe тoгo кaк вы бeзocнoвaтeльнo дeaктивиpoвaли мoй aккayнт (ни кaкoй вынocки из пpaвил нe былo пpивeдeнo, пpocтo "нapyшeниe" и зaблoкиpoвaли, чтoбы oтдeлaтьcя oт мeня) Пoчeмy вы тaк yпopнo мeня игнopиpyeтe??? Hи нa oднo cooбщeниe co вчepaшнeгo yтpa нe пpишлo oтвeтa.
Cкaжитe xoтя бы кyдa мнe нaпиcaть? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 26, 2014, 04:16:25 AM lojack - How about an update...?
Also, how about posting screenshots of the emails/support tickets you should have to/from the services who you claim to be waiting on for the rest of the coins...? I think that would make us all feel a lot better. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: tangle on February 26, 2014, 06:23:54 AM My transactions were reversed
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: tugvarish on February 26, 2014, 09:49:21 AM if I had to guess, what hapened on c-cex had something to do with XCP hacker or the poloniex owner destroying competition bc he was attacked before with this bug and therefore familiar with it, steal from competition and launder your money in your exchange. The prior hack of Poliniex was only in the early moments thought to be of the exchange fault, but it was actually based on a problem on the CounterParty code itself. Here is the official thread discussing CounterParty protocol, client and coin and whatever else can be relevant on the subject; Thread that I was in and reading as the discussions were moving from subject to subject, and while there were discussions on the table on how formulate a safety net by using some underwriting and the issues of trusting Poloniex as the 'de facto' main centralized exchange for XCP and the risks in case of them or other future centralized exchanges defaulting in bankruptcy, or the safeguard for the like of a crash in the XCP prices.... one person posted about big dumps of XPC on the actual Poloniex exchange. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.msg5237047#msg5237047 At first was even thought to be a typing mistake by a "fat finger" trader. Here, ironically before the event happened, another person was hoping for a panic XCP sell for an old bug in the code, so he could enter the market cheap: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=395761.3540 This link above make for a very interesting read, that you should all partake, as it is ironical and very, very weird on the many coincidences.... or... are they not such?!. And here less interesting, but still necessary for the sake of proof of my telling, it is the announce for the code fix made to resolve that security vulnerability of CounterParty code: https://forums.counterparty.co/index.php?topic=116.msg672#msg672 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: defaced on February 26, 2014, 01:18:44 PM poof gone.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 26, 2014, 02:23:27 PM c-cex, Я cнoвa oтпpaвил нecкoлькo cooбщeний пocлe тoгo кaк вы бeзocнoвaтeльнo дeaктивиpoвaли мoй aккayнт (ни кaкoй вынocки из пpaвил нe былo пpивeдeнo, пpocтo "нapyшeниe" и зaблoкиpoвaли, чтoбы oтдeлaтьcя oт мeня) Пoчeмy вы тaк yпopнo мeня игнopиpyeтe??? Hи нa oднo cooбщeниe co вчepaшнeгo yтpa нe пpишлo oтвeтa. Cкaжитe xoтя бы кyдa мнe нaпиcaть? Forgive me if I misunderstand you, as I don't speak or read Russian, but I'll try to help. Have you posted in the "Support" section of the site? Also, in what way is your account deactivated? Does it say you're banned from the chat? I'm not sure what you mean by that. (Magic Google Russian Metamorphosis) Пpocтитe мeня, ecли я нeпpaвильнo пoнимaют вac, кaк и нe гoвopить или читaть пo-pyccки, нo я пocтapaюcь пoмoчь. Bы paзмeщeны в paздeлe "Пoддepжкa" caйтa? Кpoмe тoгo, в тoм, чтo пyть вaш aккayнт oтключeн? Имeeт ли cкaзaть, чтo вы зaпpeтили чaтe? Я нe yвepeн, чтo вы имeeтe в видy. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 26, 2014, 05:31:59 PM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 26, 2014, 05:47:35 PM Sorry for the delay I was at the Doctor's office. I have copy and pasted everything available to me on the web page detailing my attempts to contact support. Also, that wasn't me dumping on polo, you can verify this wth the admin of ccex, he has my log in infor for the polo account that had all the dark deposited, so you can check the transaction info with him, just wanting to clear that up as you all are giving me credit for things I have no part of. I am still trying to gain access to the account with LTC, as you can see through the block explorer the LTC has not moved since the 24th and will not until I can regain access to it. Once again sorry for the delay everyone. Wallet ( 0 ฿ ) Messages ( 1 ) Settings Buy Bitcoins FAQ Blog Logout Message Center ManningBronc: What is taking so long? It is now 1 day and half, please respond to me so I can know what course of action to take ManningBronc: Please message me back, I know your service might take a long time but I deposited on the 23rd of february, it is now the 25th, please let me know something ManningBronc: Still no word, I really need to hear back from this service with an update asap ManningBronc: Hello I deposited 74btc in here yestereday in multiple bundles , I have yet to receive these back and would like to discuss what follow up actions need to be take, please get back to me soon as you can, I haven't seen anything show up in my wallet on here yet so please get back to me so I can take a proper course of action, EasyCoin: Hello ManningBronc, welcome to EasyCoin. Please only use this message function if you have problems or questions directly related to the site. Also many questions are already answered on the FAQ Page. Click here to confirm delete Enough copy+paste. Screenshots please. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: markj113 on February 26, 2014, 05:51:21 PM Dropped you a pm lojack about a previous account you used on the forum.
Hope to get a reply shortly before I add additional info to this post. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 26, 2014, 06:13:18 PM Dropped you a pm lojack about a previous account you used on the forum. Hope to get a reply shortly before I add additional info to this post. You mean GaiusMaximus...? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: markj113 on February 26, 2014, 06:23:28 PM Dropped you a pm lojack about a previous account you used on the forum. Hope to get a reply shortly before I add additional info to this post. You mean GaiusMaximus...? Yes, going to move quickly on this if it doesnt get resolved. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 26, 2014, 06:29:11 PM Dropped you a pm lojack about a previous account you used on the forum. Hope to get a reply shortly before I add additional info to this post. You mean GaiusMaximus...? Yes Yeah, I saw how he did you dirty when i was DOX'ing him. He's a sneaky little bastard, obviously a pro scammer who knows how to hide. We spent 16 hours on him yesterday, didn't come up with much. Maybe that will change with warrants and subpoenas. He is also mairusu and MairusuPawa on here as well. His M.O. seems to be open an ccount, run legit for a couple months, scam someone, abandon account, rinse and repeat. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: MickGhee on February 26, 2014, 10:48:13 PM perhaps he was hte site dev c-cex.com, is unavailable. they kept all my bitcoin they reversed all my dark trades put me way negative but i got 200 something drk which i am sold for 16 YAY i am spayse(that acct got banned and im locked out) on there btw here are my thoughts
the dev himself or one of his cronies used our bitcoins to pump and dump drk to purchase up a good chunk first the previous evening the email confirm was implemented this is crucial and cannot be overlooked the following morning dark start to go crazy i woke up to my 0029 "crazy sell" was ate up and drk was slightly lower than my sell but the buy side was only 0018 very odd but i figured it was cryptsy anticipation then u have poloniex and the price ics still 0019 where it shoulda been so i try to transfer over to polo to buy up some arb but withdraw email never comes so i use coins from another site when i get to polo to buy the buy side was crushed i knew a huge pump was coming so i pu t a buy in like30 higher maybe 15 or so buy up a huge amount and transfer to cex where i sell for like 2 30 now withdraw emails work so my 170 gets transferred this 170 has nothing to do with the 120 drk i just sold i buy drk for 16 on polo and go to transfer but the sites down now i have about .16 on cex and like a buy for 70 in low now everyone is locked out drk plummets this is them burning up our drk crashing the price (drk will go to the moon soon) we d ont get our stuff till after drk is on crypsy now drk is way below what we even PAID the site admin had decided it was fair to sell us our drk for what we sold it for FUCK HIM he got ALL THE PROFITS CRASHED DRK and now his website is unavailable....... i have been informed the site is still available confirming i have been banned they banned me stre my 1.6ish and wont let me get my coins Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Bitcoin_Gambler on February 26, 2014, 11:42:41 PM Lojack any updates?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: AMOjeda on February 27, 2014, 12:41:36 AM C-Cex is definitely involved in this one way or another.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ByronP on February 27, 2014, 12:51:01 AM For those of you who have lost at c-cex i extend my hand and offer up 0.1ATP (our feeshare) to you to help you out. To receive this you must open a support request with a screenshot of your held balance or some other proof of loss (have to do something). I know its not much but hopefully it will help.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: MickGhee on February 27, 2014, 02:13:29 AM byron u know i lost big
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 03:03:22 AM Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ByronP on February 27, 2014, 03:23:45 AM MickGhee open a tkt so i dont forget
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 05:36:17 AM lojack - I seeeeeeeeeeee yooooooouuuuuuuu Naaaaaathaaaaaan... Why are you acting like a hoser, eh...?
If I were to ask your buddy Anthony Ty***k in Buffalo, NY how to reach you, do you think he would he be able to tell me...? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 27, 2014, 05:43:17 AM lojack - I seeeeeeeeeeee yooooooouuuuuuuu Naaaaaathaaaaaan... http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/248917iB568FF23AF09EA4A/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1 Why He No Answer On Twitter or Steam?? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 05:47:20 AM lojack - I seeeeeeeeeeee yooooooouuuuuuuu Naaaaaathaaaaaan... http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/248917iB568FF23AF09EA4A/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1 Why He No Answer On Twitter or Steam?? ROFLMAO!!! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 27, 2014, 06:01:06 AM lojack - I seeeeeeeeeeee yooooooouuuuuuuu Naaaaaathaaaaaan... Why are you acting like a hoser, eh...? If I were to ask your buddy Anthony Ty***k in Buffalo, NY how to reach you, do you think he would he be able to tell me...? Wonder if Nathan's met Anthony's namesake & grandfather...I hear he and his wife recently celebrated 65 years :) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 27, 2014, 06:07:03 AM When he reads it, he will get the message..
Don't spread further negativity and threats please Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 27, 2014, 06:09:14 AM When he reads it, he will get the message.. Don't spread further negativity and threats please Dude, he's not going to pay. You can pretty much forget about that pipe dream. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 06:10:46 AM When he reads it, he will get the message.. Don't spread further negativity and threats please Threats...? All I did was say that I see him and ask him a question... No threats were made... SlidingHorn made no threats either, just a question and observation... It's all friendly. Well, I mean, it's all friendly as long as "lojack" makes good with the funds. If he doesn't there may be some RCMP coming to see him real soon. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 27, 2014, 06:39:59 AM When he reads it, he will get the message.. Don't spread further negativity and threats please Threats...? All I did was say that I see him and ask him a question... No threats were made... SlidingHorn made no threats either, just a question and observation... It's all friendly. Well, I mean, it's all friendly as long as "lojack" makes good with the funds. If he doesn't there may be some RCMP coming to see him real soon. "Well, I mean, it's all friendly as long as "lojack" makes good with the funds. If he doesn't there may be some RCMP coming to see him real soon." point proven.. I think he got the message :) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: lojack on February 27, 2014, 07:24:39 AM .
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 07:45:14 AM Calling me by my first name and threatening mounties to come see me, point taken guys. Please leave my friends out of this they don't have anything to do with all of this, I'm am still trying but I get the point, in a big way I get the point. We won't seriously contact your friends, just wanted to make the point m8. Also, how about those screenshots. Would love to see some solid proof that you REALLY have contacted these places about these funds. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: tungfa on February 27, 2014, 09:18:23 AM Calling me by my first name and threatening mounties to come see me, point taken guys. Please leave my friends out of this they don't have anything to do with all of this, I'm am still trying but I get the point, in a big way I get the point. So !? And !? Funds transfered ? or still just talking ? any proof ? come on man …. are you just playing with these poor guys out there ? Ether just disappear or sort it out ! …>> Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: slyA on February 27, 2014, 10:26:03 AM Its like I'm watching a really fucked up episode of C.S.I meets the Maury show. I love it. I can't wait for the plot twist. Oh and if the bloke really scammed people, it might be time he reaps a little thistle that he sowed. Scamming people with alts is bad Nathan. Bad boy.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on February 27, 2014, 11:08:06 AM Calling me by my first name and threatening mounties to come see me, point taken guys. Please leave my friends out of this they don't have anything to do with all of this, I'm am still trying but I get the point, in a big way I get the point. So !? And !? Funds transfered ? or still just talking ? any proof ? come on man …. are you just playing with these poor guys out there ? Ether just disappear or sort it out ! …>> We don't have update on funds Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 27, 2014, 11:36:14 AM before the main twist.
Was just going to highlight the support that c-cex is doing. They are really doing their part and compensating out of own pocket. Wherever the money came from - they are doing it right in the end +1 c-cex Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 04:33:17 PM lojack - Updates with screenshots please.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 04:43:04 PM C-Cex still hasn't refunded me. I have around 2btc frozen. They are claiming to have refunded 500 out of 602 accounts, but everyone in their chat hasn't been refunded a penny. Don't trust them, this isn't fixed. It may take a while to get to everyone, but I think these guys are trying to be basically fair in a bad situation. The funds haven't been returned by hacker and yet well over half of the accounts have been credited. Scammers don't pay people back out of their own pockets. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: shojayxt on February 27, 2014, 05:09:37 PM I don't understand why lojack would even talk in this thread if hes just taken all the coins, seems pointless..? Because he's playing with people. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 05:57:36 PM Prove it. There are 3 people currently in chat right now with zero refund I don't have to prove anything kid. It's obvious to those actually involved. A large portion of people have had their balances restored. Mine included. Be patient or not. Be part of the problem or part of the solution. Blasting scam when they're trying to work with you can be only one of those. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: SlidingHorn on February 27, 2014, 06:20:19 PM I've been keeping my mouth shut in terms of criticisms toward the exchange for a short while now, but I have to say this:
Why is it that people were told they would be placed as top priorities if they filed tickets early, but now we're being told that that's only the case if you had "small" amounts invested? That's a pretty shitty thing to do, if you ask me. I've seen several users who submitted their tickets well over 24 hours AFTER mine who are talking about how they've received their money back. I'm REALLY trying to be patient here, but I've essentially run out. I'm sick of generalized, patronizing responses. I want real, specific information now. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 06:33:18 PM They are still holding any significant bitcoin deposits. Quote they're trying to work with you 0 BTC refunded so far. Citation needed. I know you reading the c-cex trollbox and this thread. They are responding to both. File a ticket and get in line like the rest of us. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sparood on February 27, 2014, 06:36:01 PM Deposited and traded today...
New deposits are not held!!! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: JoelKatz on February 27, 2014, 06:46:46 PM I had 0.036 BTC at C-Cex and it was refunded.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ecrazyboy on February 27, 2014, 06:56:21 PM HEY, guys, I made some orders on C-CEX several days ago with the DKR COIN market . As you known ,they reserved the trade,and I get my DRK back in 3days .
Yes , I sold out 1000 DRK and should get 3.3BTC . But after this accident , I finally get 1.4BTC by selling DARK on www.cryptsy.com and just meet the negative market of BTC . I loose more than 75% funds . What a pitty thing !!!! But , I appreciate what C-CEX has done .In fact I was ready they woul like to run and never get back anything . So maybe you can pay more patience to their positive action,and you can finally get something back . I am sorry to meet this terrible matter. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sprocket on February 27, 2014, 06:57:02 PM I had 0.036 BTC at C-Cex and it was refunded. So the pattern seems to be that regardless of when the ticket was filed, since I believe I was one of the first to file a ticket and also to post on the troll box about the withdrawal issue (which initially other posters disputed, incorrectly), the money is being returned if you have small amounts. If so, that is not a reasonable approach. Proportionate reimbursement would make more sense, rather than leaving some people 100% on hold and some 100% cleared, why not portion it out. Or even just return up to a cap amount - say .036 BTC - to everyone and then disburse more later as funds become available. Right now, it just leaves the 102 of us with no reimbursement in the dark (ironically). You end up with 500 happier customers with small amounts of BTC and make the customers with larger balances very frustrated. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 07:00:21 PM Quote File a ticket and get in line like the rest of us. I filed the first ticket on it. Why are you saying they aren't trying to work with you? Is the ticket still in progress? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on February 27, 2014, 07:03:23 PM I had 0.036 BTC at C-Cex and it was refunded. So the pattern seems to be that regardless of when the ticket was filed, since I believe I was one of the first to file a ticket and also to post on the troll box about the withdrawal issue (which initially other posters disputed, incorrectly), the money is being returned if you have small amounts. If so, that is not a reasonable approach. Proportionate reimbursement would make more sense, rather than leaving some people 100% on hold and some 100% cleared, why not portion it out. Or even just return up to a cap amount - say .036 BTC - to everyone and then disburse more later as funds become available. Right now, it just leaves the 102 of us with no reimbursement in the dark (ironically). You end up with 500 happier customers with small amounts of BTC and make the customers with larger balances very frustrated. Please be patient. Trades are beginning to pick back up, volume is increasing which means we will be able to return more funds and faster. We have also added PremineCoin and RubyCoin and are working to add others so that we can bring in more new trades and increase volume as well. We can all speculate on what the best course of action would be and there are many different options that could be taken, but we feel that this has been pretty effective to this point and we believe this is the best route to go for the moment. We are sorry for the inconvenience and feel that we are doing the best we can with a very shitty situation. We appreciate your understanding and patience. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sprocket on February 27, 2014, 07:27:43 PM I had 0.036 BTC at C-Cex and it was refunded. So the pattern seems to be that regardless of when the ticket was filed, since I believe I was one of the first to file a ticket and also to post on the troll box about the withdrawal issue (which initially other posters disputed, incorrectly), the money is being returned if you have small amounts. If so, that is not a reasonable approach. Proportionate reimbursement would make more sense, rather than leaving some people 100% on hold and some 100% cleared, why not portion it out. Or even just return up to a cap amount - say .036 BTC - to everyone and then disburse more later as funds become available. Right now, it just leaves the 102 of us with no reimbursement in the dark (ironically). You end up with 500 happier customers with small amounts of BTC and make the customers with larger balances very frustrated. Please be patient. Trades are beginning to pick back up, volume is increasing which means we will be able to return more funds and faster. We have also added PremineCoin and RubyCoin and are working to add others so that we can bring in more new trades and increase volume as well. We can all speculate on what the best course of action would be and there are many different options that could be taken, but we feel that this has been pretty effective to this point and we believe this is the best route to go for the moment. We are sorry for the inconvenience and feel that we are doing the best we can with a very shitty situation. We appreciate your understanding and patience. As I said on the troll box, I can be patient, and I understand you were handed an ugly mess to deal with. I want to have faith that you will reimburse my BTC in due time, but the fact that BTC is going out and I have not seen a single satoshi shakes my faith in the equitable dealing with the problems. Frankly, the people who have received their DRK or BTC telling the rest of us to be patient since they are 100% resolved while we are 0% resolved is a much bigger irritant than help. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 08:01:54 PM I had 0.036 BTC at C-Cex and it was refunded. So the pattern seems to be that regardless of when the ticket was filed, since I believe I was one of the first to file a ticket and also to post on the troll box about the withdrawal issue (which initially other posters disputed, incorrectly), the money is being returned if you have small amounts. If so, that is not a reasonable approach. Proportionate reimbursement would make more sense, rather than leaving some people 100% on hold and some 100% cleared, why not portion it out. Or even just return up to a cap amount - say .036 BTC - to everyone and then disburse more later as funds become available. Right now, it just leaves the 102 of us with no reimbursement in the dark (ironically). You end up with 500 happier customers with small amounts of BTC and make the customers with larger balances very frustrated. Please be patient. Trades are beginning to pick back up, volume is increasing which means we will be able to return more funds and faster. We have also added PremineCoin and RubyCoin and are working to add others so that we can bring in more new trades and increase volume as well. We can all speculate on what the best course of action would be and there are many different options that could be taken, but we feel that this has been pretty effective to this point and we believe this is the best route to go for the moment. We are sorry for the inconvenience and feel that we are doing the best we can with a very shitty situation. We appreciate your understanding and patience. As I said on the troll box, I can be patient, and I understand you were handed an ugly mess to deal with. I want to have faith that you will reimburse my BTC in due time, but the fact that BTC is going out and I have not seen a single satoshi shakes my faith in the equitable dealing with the problems. Frankly, the people who have received their DRK or BTC telling the rest of us to be patient since they are 100% resolved while we are 0% resolved is a much bigger irritant than help. We probably wouldn't take the time to respond except to refute the scam allegations. ;-) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Hueristic on February 27, 2014, 08:11:38 PM Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sprocket on February 27, 2014, 08:25:00 PM [/quote] We probably wouldn't take the time to respond except to refute the scam allegations. ;) [/quote] Fair enough. Let me clarify, irritating but perhaps well intended. ;) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 08:33:09 PM Quote We probably wouldn't take the time to respond except to refute the scam allegations. ;-) Obviously they are legit if they refunded your .00002 btc while anyone with real money is still frozen with no ETA. I have a good feeling about dis exchange guyz! Yes, nobody else's money is real but your's kid. Acting like a child certainly should get you moved to the top of the list in my book. Maybe you're just the last one being served because you're being a pain. Just saying... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 27, 2014, 10:18:31 PM 00ph8al: "blah blah I support theft" See.. now you done broke a gasket getting too agitated. That makes no sense. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on February 28, 2014, 05:42:46 AM I got refunded and compensated. lost one dark in total due to the donation i made for their support and to help their situation.
nuff said? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: 00ph8al on February 28, 2014, 10:04:59 PM Still no funds released. Good luck with your btc on this exchange. It'll happen again soon. What are they telling you? Why don't you outline your problem here and their responses? If you have a legitimate problem that they aren't addressing, other users would probably be interested and likely support you. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sparood on February 28, 2014, 11:13:29 PM They have been open about what happened so far...
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: illodin on February 28, 2014, 11:52:39 PM So what's the current situation? What I could gather from the trollbox is that my BTC will be on hold until C-CEX has earned enough to pay up from trading fees. Time to publish the thief's info already?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sprocket on March 01, 2014, 12:17:00 AM They have been open about what happened so far... Tribal Bob and Company I am posting here rather than the troll box since I am wiped out for trading funds so there the only reason I log in on C-Cex is to see if progress has been made working with Lojack to recover the funds or any other breaking news. I am prepared to wait months if that is what it takes, it took me months to build up my mining stake to have the couple bit coins I built up, and will take me months to rebuild it now. As it stands, our interests are aligned, we both want c-cex to prosper and make money. Can you do me a favor and email me when you are able to return any funds? I don't know if you are doing that for the others as you free up funds, but it would be appreciated. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: illodin on March 01, 2014, 06:19:06 PM Ok I'm wondering at what point I should sue either the thief or the exchange. Question is, when, and which one, thoughts?
Anyone talked to police about this yet? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Bitcoin_Gambler on March 01, 2014, 10:08:48 PM C-cex has actually handled this pretty well considering the situation they were put in.
I would like some updates from lojack though. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 02, 2014, 04:49:52 PM They have been open about what happened so far... Tribal Bob and Company I am posting here rather than the troll box since I am wiped out for trading funds so there the only reason I log in on C-Cex is to see if progress has been made working with Lojack to recover the funds or any other breaking news. I am prepared to wait months if that is what it takes, it took me months to build up my mining stake to have the couple bit coins I built up, and will take me months to rebuild it now. As it stands, our interests are aligned, we both want c-cex to prosper and make money. Can you do me a favor and email me when you are able to return any funds? I don't know if you are doing that for the others as you free up funds, but it would be appreciated. Absolutely m8, will make sure to do so. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 02, 2014, 05:01:21 PM lojack - Very clever of you to let me believe your name was Nathan. If you check your personal messages I believe you will find we have your true identity now.
You have 24 hours to return the coins before legal action is sought. Also, if the coins are not returned within 24 hours we will release your personal information (as per your permission which was granted earlier in this thread) so that those victims who have been affected may feel free to engage in their own legal pursuits. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: twalrus on March 02, 2014, 05:21:50 PM Here's to hoping he's nearby. There are benefits to having most of my family be in law enforcement.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: jettico on March 03, 2014, 08:37:56 AM My 0.02162673 BTC were unlocked successfully. I didn't even have to raise a ticket.
What's the sense of spamming here? Raise a ticket and you will be refunded. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: yesiam6 on March 03, 2014, 09:23:24 AM My 0.02162673 BTC were unlocked successfully. I didn't even have to raise a ticket. :D 0.021 btc. the problem is that the support said that the people who open a ticket first will be refunded first but now they are only refunding broke ass dudesWhat's the sense of spamming here? Raise a ticket and you will be refunded. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on March 03, 2014, 10:37:18 AM My 0.02162673 BTC were unlocked successfully. I didn't even have to raise a ticket. :D 0.021 btc. the problem is that the support said that the people who open a ticket first will be refunded first but now they are only refunding broke ass dudesWhat's the sense of spamming here? Raise a ticket and you will be refunded. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: heretolearn on March 03, 2014, 10:46:16 AM @c-cexscam .. it is evident why you made your username and account here - to spam against c-cex.com
What I have found is that the support staff has actively engaged and told people transparently about what happened. The incident did shake me up too, but what I find comforting is that in my experience on other exchanges which don't give a shit about your support tickets, this exchange has managed to reassure everytime someone has asked about funds. That to me is refreshing, compared to the MtGoxes and Btc-es of the bitcoin world. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 01:43:23 PM lojack - Just over 3 hours left then I'm dumping your info (with pics).
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 02:44:45 PM I see you lurking. You may be hiding your online status but I can see your "last activity" time changing...
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: blajde on March 03, 2014, 02:46:59 PM Diz gunna bee intwesting
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: illodin on March 03, 2014, 02:50:30 PM And if you don't have the money anymore, go loan it from somewhere. Probably your parents would like to see you stay out of jail.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sparood on March 03, 2014, 06:35:57 PM Will watch this closely...
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 06:43:08 PM That pedo thing is for hunting them... Link is dead so cant just bust him for that Wasn't sure because I wasn't going to click on anything with "pedo" in the title, lol... Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 06:47:21 PM That son of a bitch. Thank you very much for this info. Quite welcome. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: shmick on March 03, 2014, 06:51:18 PM Hey there, shmick here. Just saw this via twitter.
Not really sure what it's about. 1) Yes, I do have a BTC-e account. I don't mine bitcoin though, I've only got a single machine at home mining primecoin. 2) Yes, that's my github archive for scanning OTA TV signals with an HDHomeRun tuner. 3) I've no idea who "sxqut@evopo.com", "Mairusu" and "Darkman" are. Cheers. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: slyA on March 03, 2014, 06:54:36 PM This is getting good.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 07:02:52 PM Hey there, shmick here. Just saw this via twitter. Not really sure what it's about. 1) Yes, I do have a BTC-e account. I don't mine bitcoin though, I've only got a single machine at home mining primecoin. 2) Yes, that's my github archive for scanning OTA TV signals with an HDHomeRun tuner. 3) I've no idea who "sxqut@evopo.com", "Mairusu" and "Darkman" are. Cheers. It seems I may have made a mistake, it seems that your paste appeared in my search results because the cached page contained a link to a paste made by the person we are actually looking for. I am incredibly embarrassed and I am very sorry. I have deleted all my posts with your information and I would like to ask that others do the same as well. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: shmick on March 03, 2014, 07:08:34 PM Guys, I'm all for nailing people who have scammed others, but please remember that things posted online, while seemingly benign, can have long term repercussions and it's very hard to delete things once they're online.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: ExD on March 03, 2014, 07:11:32 PM I checked evopo.com where he has email, it has only blank nginx page, so it might be his rented vps with email server running.
WHOIS data: Code:
Upd: nope, this domain is used for disposable email addresses, so owner probably have nothing to do with this. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 07:14:01 PM Ok, starting back at basics, here is what we do have for sure:
E-Mail used at C-CEX: sxqut@evopo.com Account Name at C-CEX: Mairusu Chat name at C-CEX : Darkman Links Paste #1: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vNRUfQ-rzQ8J:pastebin.ca/2645903+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Paste #2: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:08JImy9Kt4YJ:pastebin.ca/2645904+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: TribalBob on March 03, 2014, 07:17:16 PM I checked evopo.com where he has email, it has only blank nginx page, so it might be his rented vps with email server running. WHOIS data: Code:
evopo.com is a domain used by a disposable email service that is owned by Oron Adam Basically you go to homepage for the service and it assigns you a throwaway box with random numbers and letters @ one of their registered domains. then you have to check the box every "x" hours or it is automatically deleted. You can't even use them to send mail, have to use another service (our guy likes to use send-email.org) Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: rasnetworks on March 03, 2014, 07:57:50 PM Request to bitcoin talk administrators
Can you publish IP addresses used by lojack? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: gregorymiles on March 03, 2014, 09:03:02 PM Hey Grégory (lojack),
Stop messing around and send the money back or things are about to get furry in the suburbs of Paris. - KickTails60 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Hueristic on March 03, 2014, 09:15:08 PM Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: gregorymiles on March 03, 2014, 09:17:37 PM and in case you don't believe me,
this date mean anything to you: 21/04/1984 Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Bitcoin_Gambler on March 03, 2014, 09:26:35 PM He has clearly decided to take a portion of the money. Let's get his real info out there so that people can file charges appropriately.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: gregorymiles on March 03, 2014, 10:07:41 PM He has clearly decided to take a portion of the money. Let's get his real info out there so that people can file charges appropriately. True Here's who i believe our guy is: http://i60.tinypic.com/mligcm.png Grégory Hautier Location: Creil, France aka. Mairusu-Paua, Mairusu, Darkman, hitaku60, tails60 DOB: 04/21/1984 Schools Attended: Collège Charles De Gaulle - 1995 - 2000 Lycée Marie Curie - 2000 - 2004 Antenne Universite de Picardide Jules Verne - 2004 - 2008 Last known employer: Vietnam Tourism Forum - September 2003 vtf.com.vn Social Networks: http://www.france-jeunes.net/view.php?tid=135718 https://myspace.com/127585348 https://www.facebook.com/greg.hautier https://www.facebook.com/greg.hautier.1 https://www.facebook.com/gregory.hautier.52 In his own words: I'm a half belgian french guy, I live in the north suburbs of Paris. Interested in tons and various thing :3, literature, draw, picture, architecture, animals, art.... I'm also a fur, "unknown", my nickname is Miles Tails Power on the web. If you want speak with me no problem, but I don't talk much :3 Current Residence: Suburbs of Paris Favourite genre of music: jazz/blues/world music/ classical.... Favourite style of art: oniric art, furry art,... Operating System: OS X Lion ver. 10.7.1 Personal Quote: "partir le coeur à l'agonie, le coeur brisé, .... partir en clandestin, au petit jour" For some reason Gregory is obsessed with Tails from Sonic the hedgehog. You can read his Tails fan-fiction site: http://mairusu-paua.tumblr.com also his view on bitcoin: http://mairusu-paua.tumblr.com/post/77838460722/bitcoins notice his writing style, especially his serial commas. Very reminiscent of Lojack's. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: C. Bergmann on March 04, 2014, 11:22:34 AM Anything new about the frozen Bitcoin?
I really want to trust this exchange, but the handling of this affaire makes it hard to do. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Bitcoin_Gambler on March 04, 2014, 11:49:36 PM He has clearly decided to take a portion of the money. Let's get his real info out there so that people can file charges appropriately. True Here's who i believe our guy is: http://i60.tinypic.com/mligcm.png Grégory Hautier Location: Creil, France aka. Mairusu-Paua, Mairusu, Darkman, hitaku60, tails60 DOB: 04/21/1984 Schools Attended: Collège Charles De Gaulle - 1995 - 2000 Lycée Marie Curie - 2000 - 2004 Antenne Universite de Picardide Jules Verne - 2004 - 2008 Last known employer: Vietnam Tourism Forum - September 2003 vtf.com.vn Social Networks: http://www.france-jeunes.net/view.php?tid=135718 https://myspace.com/127585348 https://www.facebook.com/greg.hautier https://www.facebook.com/greg.hautier.1 https://www.facebook.com/gregory.hautier.52 In his own words: I'm a half belgian french guy, I live in the north suburbs of Paris. Interested in tons and various thing :3, literature, draw, picture, architecture, animals, art.... I'm also a fur, "unknown", my nickname is Miles Tails Power on the web. If you want speak with me no problem, but I don't talk much :3 Current Residence: Suburbs of Paris Favourite genre of music: jazz/blues/world music/ classical.... Favourite style of art: oniric art, furry art,... Operating System: OS X Lion ver. 10.7.1 Personal Quote: "partir le coeur à l'agonie, le coeur brisé, .... partir en clandestin, au petit jour" For some reason Gregory is obsessed with Tails from Sonic the hedgehog. You can read his Tails fan-fiction site: http://mairusu-paua.tumblr.com also his view on bitcoin: http://mairusu-paua.tumblr.com/post/77838460722/bitcoins notice his writing style, especially his serial commas. Very reminiscent of Lojack's. Can anyone else verify this? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Bitcoin_Gambler on March 05, 2014, 02:30:53 AM Stay away from these scammers. 3 months minimum to pay BTC back. Who wants to bet they are "hacked" again before then? I'm sorry that you're in the minority but I've been paid back. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: vilgem on March 07, 2014, 06:51:02 AM No way to create a new BTC address - "Error. Wallet is loading. Please try again later"
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on March 07, 2014, 09:23:02 AM No way to create a new BTC address - "Error. Wallet is loading. Please try again later" Short wallet maintenance - please, use "Support" section for problems if You need faster solution. Not this thread. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: burner2014 on March 08, 2014, 05:02:33 PM C-Cex can you do the following?
1. Give a list of account names and amount of BTC on hold? 2. Can you give weekly updates how much and whom you paid back? Then the person can confirm it here in the Forum 3. What is the strategy to pay back? First the person who has got the lowest amount of BTC on hold? Thanks Cheers, Chris Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: smoothie on March 08, 2014, 05:51:54 PM Yeah, they paid back 3 BTC and stole 125. GTFO. Quote We owe 124.9 BTC to 96 our customers. Yes, we already refunded about 500 customers, but the total amount was about 3 BTC. (they all had <0.1 balance in BTC). Refunding more customers with less amounts doesn't constitute any justification for delays on refunding. May as well refund 1 Billion customers $0.00001 each if that's the case. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: FL123 on March 09, 2014, 08:57:59 AM Yeah, they paid back 3 BTC and stole 125. GTFO. Quote We owe 124.9 BTC to 96 our customers. Yes, we already refunded about 500 customers, but the total amount was about 3 BTC. (they all had <0.1 balance in BTC). Refunding more customers with less amounts doesn't constitute any justification for delays on refunding. May as well refund 1 Billion customers $0.00001 each if that's the case. Exactly, I can´t believe they are getting away with this, I had there 3 btc (maybe never going to see them again), my friend almost same quantity, they have refunded max 10% of total amount (small accounts) only and bought time to calm people with the hacker story. wait 3 months? this site need to be banned from crypto community spread the word in other forums! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: smoothie on March 09, 2014, 09:21:51 AM Yeah, they paid back 3 BTC and stole 125. GTFO. Quote We owe 124.9 BTC to 96 our customers. Yes, we already refunded about 500 customers, but the total amount was about 3 BTC. (they all had <0.1 balance in BTC). Refunding more customers with less amounts doesn't constitute any justification for delays on refunding. May as well refund 1 Billion customers $0.00001 each if that's the case. Exactly, I can´t believe they are getting away with this, I had there 3 btc (maybe never going to see them again), my friend almost same quantity, they have refunded max 10% of total amount (small accounts) only and bought time to calm people with the hacker story. wait 3 months? this site need to be banned from crypto community spread the word in other forums! That was likely their plan. The lowest cost of damage control. Pay off the majority of customers that had small deposits. The way I see it is they shouldn't have repaid anyone unless they could repay everyone the same % amount of the total original balance before the hack or repay all of the customers in full at once. There is no other reason to refund 500 customers with tiny amounts aside from trying to shut up the majority from making posts about them being scammers. Obviously they are not treating their customers all fairly. Favoritism (in a manner of speaking)....tsk tsk tsk. Don't do business with people do operate that way. This only means they will allow their friends know inside information (favoritism) if there is any benefit from it and allow them to reap the profits and rewards of doing so with said information (insider trading). Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Sparood on March 09, 2014, 09:51:42 AM Yeah this is bullshit... I have waited long enough..
Stay away from this exchange! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Honourablequest on March 09, 2014, 10:07:38 AM Guys, I'm all for nailing people who have scammed others, but please remember that things posted online, while seemingly benign, can have long term repercussions and it's very hard to delete things once they're online. I agree - falsely accusing someone and posting "who I believe" Facebook pages on site could have damaging consequences. These should be removed till definitive proof can be found. Its easy to throw accusations when not in the headlights and faced with difficult decisions. At least he is manning up and trying to deal with this challenging situation. Hope it works out for all involved - time will tell. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: FL123 on March 09, 2014, 10:44:29 AM Guys, I'm all for nailing people who have scammed others, but please remember that things posted online, while seemingly benign, can have long term repercussions and it's very hard to delete things once they're online. I agree - falsely accusing someone and posting "who I believe" Facebook pages on site could have damaging consequences. These should be removed till definitive proof can be found. Its easy to throw accusations when not in the headlights and faced with difficult decisions. At least he is manning up and trying to deal with this challenging situation. Hope it works out for all involved - time will tell. Best case scenario we lent him 125 BTC to gamble in other cryptos for 3 months, 0% interest. Worst case he gets "hacked" again when people drop their guard and the site is full of bitcoins. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: heretolearn on March 11, 2014, 02:33:32 PM They havve put up an automated way to pay back now, I think the efforts are commendable, I plan to stay with this exchange. They are honest.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on March 11, 2014, 04:01:58 PM We developed automated refund system. Customers with BTC on hold now will receive daily refund in amount of 50% of our BTC incoming fee spreaded proportionally in percentage calculated from owed BTC for each user.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: COINPRADER on March 12, 2014, 03:29:05 PM We developed automated refund system. Customers with BTC on hold now will receive daily refund in amount of 50% of our BTC incoming fee spreaded proportionally in percentage calculated from owed BTC for each user. I confirm that the last 2 days I have received some BTC into my acct from the BTC on hold. It may take some time - but at least the exchange is working a solution. I, for one, trust them and still trade on this exchange. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: FL123 on March 19, 2014, 06:43:42 PM They said that were going to pay in 2, 3 months. At the speed they are paying (.001) per day, I am going to receive my 3 btc in 8.333333333333333 years!. Still the same scam, don´t let them fool you.
Spread the world in your crypto forums, don't let them get away with other people's money. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex-scam on March 27, 2014, 01:45:47 PM At the rate they are repaying it is going to take decades for them to pay anyone back. Still fucked.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: jakecrow on March 27, 2014, 06:17:35 PM What do you mean guys? Mine will be paid back in ~80 years, I'm set for retirement because by then Bitcoin will be worth ZILLIONS.
Just kidding this is a joke of a fix...seriously 80 years ffs. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: FL123 on March 27, 2014, 08:05:50 PM Need to repost this everywhere you can guys...!
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex-scam on March 31, 2014, 07:16:51 PM Nevermind they already stopped making payments.
https://twitter.com/CryptoCurrEncyX/status/450555026445176832 Quote We are on the way to pay everybody suffered from 23 feb incident. We take decision to stop it for persons abusing us publicly. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: regnevacs on April 02, 2014, 05:41:48 AM is btc withdrawal for this site is now fixed? TIA
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: MickGhee on April 02, 2014, 03:54:56 PM Do not use this site they are responsible for this whole debacle they stole .2 from me
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: FL123 on April 02, 2014, 08:01:03 PM Nevermind they already stopped making payments. https://twitter.com/CryptoCurrEncyX/status/450555026445176832 Quote We are on the way to pay everybody suffered from 23 feb incident. We take decision to stop it for persons abusing us publicly. They are now giving 5% commission for people that refer others to c-cex, once they are full they will dissapear with everybody's money or invent some lame excuse again. Going to post this in every cryto forum I am in to avoid this hassle to others. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: fran2k on April 17, 2014, 05:05:26 AM We developed automated refund system. Customers with BTC on hold now will receive daily refund in amount of 50% of our BTC incoming fee spreaded proportionally in percentage calculated from owed BTC for each user. Ok, seems reasonable. Anyway this is gonna take years at current rate! Damn. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: BuckNaked on May 01, 2014, 12:08:32 PM I wish I'd read this thread three weeks ago before I signed on with them. When I tried to extract 1.5 million Leafcoins from my account, they fabricated a withdrawal confirmation and claimed it was sent. The blockchain explorer and my wallet say different.
Under no circumstances should anyone do business with C-Cex. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: acs267 on May 01, 2014, 08:22:34 PM Should I be surprised that I've never heard/seen this exchange before? Is this a relatively new exchange, or is it a old?
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: devinessa on May 03, 2014, 11:35:41 AM 1. How do you deduced that lojack is that guy? lol I read all his posts 0 clues there. With such ability if it works you could make a lot of money - working as private detective and help police to find people with large reward for them :)
2. C-CEX. If company runs say 1 retail shop, got loans , shop is robbed and they are in minus. Company is declared bancrupt. Is that what you want? Get 0 instead of something? If you think C CEX done something wrong, file lawsuit. 3. Its normal that people who lost coins are likely to shout here, however logically thinking if C Cex were simply to close after theft like many other did it would solve 0. Imo if they are paying daily % from their profits its something. Is it safe to trade with them now? Who knows. So far seems fine. Maybe C Cex can post what they have done to make exchange safe. Feel free to post what you think. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on May 06, 2014, 05:42:13 PM I wish I'd read this thread three weeks ago before I signed on with them. When I tried to extract 1.5 million Leafcoins from my account, they fabricated a withdrawal confirmation and claimed it was sent. The blockchain explorer and my wallet say different. Under no circumstances should anyone do business with C-Cex. Not true. We did not get any support ticket of this kind. Maybe You should try if You really have this problem? Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on May 06, 2014, 05:45:10 PM 1. How do you deduced that lojack is that guy? lol I read all his posts 0 clues there. With such ability if it works you could make a lot of money - working as private detective and help police to find people with large reward for them :) 2. C-CEX. If company runs say 1 retail shop, got loans , shop is robbed and they are in minus. Company is declared bancrupt. Is that what you want? Get 0 instead of something? If you think C CEX done something wrong, file lawsuit. 3. Its normal that people who lost coins are likely to shout here, however logically thinking if C Cex were simply to close after theft like many other did it would solve 0. Imo if they are paying daily % from their profits its something. Is it safe to trade with them now? Who knows. So far seems fine. Maybe C Cex can post what they have done to make exchange safe. Feel free to post what you think. Thank You for good words. Yes, we made huge work to develop strong security system as it is now. We did not have any accidents since 23 feb. Our security includes: 2FA (e-mail, sms, google authenticator), e-mail confirmations, SSL, DDoS protection, anti-theft protection, hot/cold storage. We are not vulnerable to sql injections, request spamming, csrf etc. We also did many improvements to interface, performance and servers. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: c-cex on May 06, 2014, 05:51:22 PM I can see so much of lie here. I will not post anymore to this thread.
Just want to let You know that our platform is the best on the market by speed of deposits/withdrawals, trading, support responses and security of funds and accounts. Just test Yourself. We grow, develop new features (any other exchange has webcam QR reading support?), adding perspective coins. If anybody having any problems with exchange - just use our support system - we solve tickets very fast. We post all our news to twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoCurrEncyX Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: BuckNaked on May 15, 2014, 10:26:37 AM C-cex said:
Not true. We did not get any support ticket of this kind. Maybe You should try if You really have this problem? If anybody having any problems with exchange - just use our support system - we solve tickets very fast. As I previously stated, the C-Cex support ticket system kicks back an error message two hours later stating that they do not accept emails from my email host. (That must be how they can solve tickets very fast.) This problem was reported to C-Cex several times at their Skype address, along with the missing Leafcoins. No response was ever returned. They have also not PMed me here to resolve the problem, though they clearly read this forum. I stand by my previous statement: No one should use C-Cex for any purpose whatsoever. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: m@x on August 04, 2014, 11:43:47 PM I have lost some US$ 5000 of Darkcoin because of those guys. Any information on their identities please DM I am offering a bounty.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: freezer1 on August 05, 2014, 12:24:57 PM Translate:
In any case do not trust your money to these scammers! Because of them, I lost more than 2 thousand rubles (>$60)! That it is not even negligence, and a way of earning - just do not update the software (wallets), under the pretext that the developer has not reported. Even after I informed about the new version of the wallet is already available about a month, the trades have not been stopped, so people were losing money. Support unfriendly, quite useless, plays for time. Here is my correspondence: http://pastebin.com/Z1Sb0Hae Original: Hи в кoeм cлyчae нe дoвepяйтe cвoи дeньги этим мoшeнникaм! Из-зa ниx я пoтepял бoлee 2 тыcяч pyблeй! Утвepждaю, чтo этo дaжe нe xaлaтнocть, a cпocoб зapaбoткa - вoвpeмя нe oбнoвлять пpoгpaммнoe oбecпeчeниe (кoшeльки) пoд пpeдлoгoм чтo paзpaбoтчик нe cooбщил, нaживaяcь нa этoм. Дaжe пocлe тoгo, кaк я yкaзaл, чтo нoвaя вepcия кoшeлькa дocтyпнa yжe кaк мecяц, тopги нe были ocтaнoвлeны, a знaчит люди тepяли дeньги. Cлyжбa пoддepжки нeдpyжecтвeннaя, oткpoвeннo бecпoлeзнaя, тянeт вpeмя вceми вoзмoжнocтями, чтoбы тoлькo oтcтaли. Boт мoя пepeпиcкa: http://pastebin.com/Z1Sb0Hae Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: daimyo on August 20, 2014, 03:22:44 PM C-cex is not a fair exchange. In fact, it is qualifying for a SCAM exchange.
Their scheme is simple - they list a bunch of coins every day. One week from that they delist the coin because of low volume thats understable because fewer and fewer folks would choose to trade there... The delisted coin is effectively stolen. Folks dont get the chance to withdraw the delisted coin. So if you go on a vaccation forget about your coins. The c-cex staff then lie to folks telling them they are having syncing problems and so on in order to delay the payouts... If you choose to trade on C-cex you gotta be a thrill seeker really :D Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Mario241077 on August 20, 2014, 07:02:06 PM Danger !! Attention !! Does not use C-CEX !!!!
all links about scam summarized https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418700.0;all https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739473.0;all https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739633.0;all https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=724294.0;all and one too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485029.0;all IsisCoin add 07.07.2014 delistet 06.08.2014 BTCS add 02.06.2014 delisted 05.08.2014 Orobit add 28.07.2014 delisted 14.08.2014 MED add 06.06.2014 delisted 08.07.2014 ALN add 06.06.2014 delisted 08.07.2014 TECH 25.06.2014 - 04.08.2014 DRKC 25.07.2014 - 21.08.2014 so, These are just a few examples, follows her twitter account and look at the https://twitter.com/CryptoCurrEncyX next one, withdraw Coins to be removed August, 21 due to low volume: BPC, SUM, ASCE, MONA, DRKC, RSN, MJ, NUD, LIT, VTC, W8, WHC, LGBT, CLN 4 weeks later, all recently listed coins away again. And your personal Coins too! What? Why? follow the links above Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Mario241077 on August 21, 2014, 05:59:12 AM update 20.08.2014
read here by Pride-C-CEX Yes our new policy is very strict as the sea of altcoins washes over crypto so must C-CEX adapt to the changing climate. If you have coins on our exchange that are less than .3 btc volume for 2 weeks straight they will be delisted, there will be the normal warnings made to ensure people have time to remove their coins still. I reimbursed demoniality with 4.4 mil coins instead of the 3.2 mil he was needing to show our apologies. If anyone on this thread has coins that can be purchased at another exchange then please PM me with the details of your ticket and an exchange the particular coins can be purchased from. In the email I will need your C-CEX user name as well to verify the ticket. Once these are all taken care of moving forward everyone is now aware of the aggressive approach we now take to eliminate low volume coins and there should be no issues further. Thank you, and I hope we can better serve everyone in the future. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739473.0;all please post your experiences there !!! Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Mario241077 on August 21, 2014, 04:10:09 PM Pride C-CEX has kept his word and sent me the missing coins! So I will keep my word and make the main thread free from my allegations.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418700.0;all I hope you keep this clean way at !!!! But let us earn money on legal and honest way! On the other please post your experiences! So I can see that it's not just two people were who received compensation. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: racsas on September 12, 2014, 05:54:52 PM I cant withdraw my bitcoins there. Nothing happen when I clicked transfer button, it just go back to the previous page, my balance is never transfered.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Xandrah on October 07, 2014, 03:57:44 PM Sounds like yet another mtgox coming along there.
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: IFCG on October 16, 2014, 07:57:36 AM I am afraid c-cex has to many bugs in it while the admin tries to make a genuine effort ive lost three coin types that were delis-ted and never returned inclusive of energy coin and never returned the request is still pending i belive
Title: C-Cex withdrawal issues Post by: aws on October 19, 2014, 05:41:04 PM I withdrew some BTC from C-Cex at 9.36 PST,
got the confirmation email and clicked the link to confirm. the transaction shows in my C-Cex history 2014-10-19 09:36:29 Withdrawal txid: (9a1ec6d2f68bf4531b87e2341714de3af5561f6baacbf9060dce16cab7e85f2e) now it is 10.36 PST.an hour later and no transaction has been received check on blockchain.info: https://blockchain.info/tx/9a1ec6d2f68bf4531b87e2341714de3af5561f6baacbf9060dce16cab7e85f2e (https://blockchain.info/tx/9a1ec6d2f68bf4531b87e2341714de3af5561f6baacbf9060dce16cab7e85f2e) transaction not found created a support ticket, will keep updating here 11.38 PST FUNDS RECEIVED, ISSUE SOLVED Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: KingTylerVVS on December 31, 2014, 05:01:54 AM I just lost the last of my bitcoin to c-cex...
I lost nearly a whole bitcoin earlier this year to future yields... And then .300 btc to HASHPROFIT and HASHIE... scams! And my last .110 btc, all gone. I sold xpy on cryptsy during a spike, made a nice profit, transfered it to c-cex to buy more xpy on the low... and now the btc is at ZERO though my deposit was hours ago. Their site claims BTC wallets are in "maintenance mode." Fuck my life. I would commit suicide, but I think I would profit more from creating "project robin hood" and going after these scammers. Everyone knows they are freaking rich right now from all the money they stole from good people. Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: Hueristic on December 31, 2014, 05:44:32 AM ^^^ That is a little melodramatic!
Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: sudsind on January 19, 2018, 01:36:38 PM I have not traded from many months on c-cex, i was only holding my some coins like Burst over there, i have not traded in bitcoin or darkcoin or any, but when i try to withdraw i mean try to send my burst coin or other to my other address they are not showing any withdraw option, and not any option to contact them.
When i have not traded anything with hacker why i am the victim, let me send my coins to different address, i am not withdrawing bitcoin Title: Re: C-Cex Has Frozen Your BTC! Not to be Trusted Post by: sudsind on February 03, 2018, 07:37:25 AM I received my altcoin balance now. Thanks C-cex
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