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Guys whole market is going down rapidly. Especially see the ETH price. it is crazy.  But I didn't see there is the specific case except  ETF. Can anyone guess when will be market recover? 

Just let them sell, ETF postponement might be the biggest reason or some sort manipulation even the news are so bullish this market will do the opposite to give way for new big investors. Again, if your into long term goal this daily price action doesn't matter mostly bull market occurs during 4th quarter of the year.

Well i guess as market price for crypto falls so does the clients or investors of cryptocurrency seeing this will make them also sell. Meaning the downfall of market price itself is like a domino effect that will take effect on each investors to sell their crypto to avoid much loses on their money being invested on crypto.

I think you're right. Potentially overvalued ETH is dragging the market down.

It is possible traders and speculators favor a diminished bitcoin thinking if the price declines it will setup an easy pump in the future. Another cause could be traders dumping the holdings they accumulated to send the price higher than $7k. The potential trade war between china and the USA could influence investors into selling their holdings to reduce risk and exposure. The US economy reporting greater growth, tax revenue and job numbers than expected could also mean that investors are deciding to invest in more conventional opportunities which they view as being more reliable than crypto as well.

There are different scenarios which together could contribute to form something like a "perfect storm".

Metrics and indicators could imply that the value of bitcoin should be increasing given its user base has grown substantially over time. These decreases in price could be attributed moreso to market manipulation or media FUD than to natural market mechanics. And so it is difficult to say what forces or influences are responsible for the price movements we see.

I was surprised open my wallets this morning and see that ethereum has lose $54 from the yesterday evening when I checked last!  I can not really tell what is happening but I think  the supplies is too high and demand is getting lower by the days.

Yes, the market seems to very disappointing because of the successive dips we are currently facing. However, this dips is the great opportunity to buy more btc and alts at a very cheaper price than before. Consider long term investment as this is the best way to earn much promising profit once the coming bull market will take place in the coming months.

I am also worried about it... 319 $ now for 1 eth, a very significant decrease, my portfolio is shrinking, all my assets are in ethereum ,, what really happened, are people panic because eth day has decreased, and many are selling at low prices? , but I will survive, I am sure that in the near future eth and other coins will rise again

In my opinion, whale sharks are trying to fill the market, while the market is constantly falling and to a certain extent they will rise again to their will. So, I would focus on keeping it better.

The delayed ETF caused the market to go down quickly. But these days there have been many FUD on Crypto in Cointelegraph. I think it is because of these reasons that the market fell into the abyss. It is difficult for the market to recover in 2018. Investors are scared and will not be interested in investing in this time.

It's because Bitcoin got into an overbought zone and it intends to go down naturally, and for some other alts, they follow Bitcoin and it is normal that they go down also.

Why speculate, many reasons, now is not the most suitable period for the growth of the currency.

ETF is the reason however it also means that the support is not strong much, so we are not still ready for the next run. Particular reasons are just like starter.

It is almost seeming as if the fall in price of Bitcoin is affecting all other Cryptos. But, these coins are even dropping at higher percentages compared to Bitcoin. However, the base line is that, recently, the Crypto-Market is plummeting.

Maybe, we should hold the fact that the prices of Ether and other Cryptos are only dropping only because the sell volume is bigger than the buying volume.

About when the market will recover, it could be hard to say, but whenever it will be .. just buy now and Sell then.

I have also been able to gather some information that, the price usually goes with the trend, it can go up or it can go down regards of the news. - I saw that it usually takes up to 3–5 days for bad news or good news to influence the market.

If you would check the news now you would see how many countries are trying to regulate and embrace blockchain technology. - More and more projects are starting to get built on Ethereum because it’s the most secure and reliable to use - Venezuela issued its first oil backed cryptocurrency on Ethereum (Petro Dollar).

Guessing the recovery?everyone of us can tell,maybe later or tomorrow?thats a legit guess right?

But in reality none of us can make the right time,because this will only lead people to false hope since all of people here in cryptocurrency waiting for this time to come.

Lets just wait about what will market bring,for now enjoy what is the value that market gives

I'm guessing that the postponement of the ETF is just a scapegoat by whalers or opportunist to sell and earn since they bought at the last low. We are going unto the latter part of the year where crypto thrives so let us see what happens.

Hoping for the better future,we can do nothing more than that because we don't find any reasins why the prices were going down again after that $2000 bump maybe due to ETF's speculation but now the prices falling more than how much it was before.But we still we have some ETF applications for the approval so it maybe give good bump again soon in some days.

Like long-term investment in equity investment, do not go right to the daily market price, then you should forget to buy it. as crypto investment is more long term than Stock. I think ETH will get high record price within 3-5 year.

Bitcoin ETF is not the big reason for market fall there wasn't bitcoin ETF in picture since last 3 months. We are seeing bear market since January 2018, in this whole bearish trend we have barely seen the uptrend in the price of the cryptocurrency. You may have observed in this whole period whenever price of the bitcoin goes up, within 3 to 4 days we see the fall in the price. This has happened several times, I am shocked to see the technical analysis, fundamental analysis being failed. so many peoples were giving excuses of manipulation but how far we have to see manipulation???? IMO something is going behind the scene, I feel some group of peoples are suppressing the price of the BTC. when I was researching about this whole bearish trend I found this article https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

First Asking this kind of questions is making itch where people needs to understand the true nature of the business of marketing the value, the price itself in the market. Also Iam not acting like I know this kind of situation before way I was a newbie to the world of business and marketing and its strategies to know how it works.

1. Know that when it comes to the fiat currency/USD value for example a human can not tell when the value is going up and down.

2. Same as I said in number 1 cryptocurrency is close to USD which many are interested so there are prices changes.

3. Here is a tip cryptocurrency is valuable and a number one source of good income for those who people who know it.


PS: The answer to your sis no one can know they can only see and know when it happened. So predictions are here because of the valie results of cryptocurrency price.

The argument that starting bitcoin futures contracts on 12/17/2017 explains the ramp up to and decline from that date seems sound.  Just look at bitcoin on the 3 day scale of bitcoinwisdom.  This July pump and August dump seems clear.

Money is essentially going out rather than in.  Are miners always harvesting then immediately cashing in?  Wonder what fraction of trading that volume accounts for.

But, why would the ETF (whatever that is) cause an increase in bitcoin market cap if money is going out not in?

If the fiat financial world looks at cryptocurrency as a cash cow that can be milked with programs and schemes presently in use in the fiat financial world, then an ETF will just make matters worse.

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Obviously, the news and speculations of cryptocurrency is actually affecting the market price and that is the reason why you should always invest every time the market prices are dropping.

If it drops below I think people turn to USD for backup. Bad situations can happen to the market. However, when it stabilizes, we buy again to continue the journey in this market. The future has more interesting things awaiting us.

Any fundamentals or news do really have that effect into the entire market. We do even hit up below 6k usd on bitcoins price but it seems it stand strong on that area 5900-6000 which do have a strong support but theres still a tendency that we would hit up 5.5 or even 3k which there are rumors that this would be the best price for institutional funds to set it but well its just a speculation.
For now we can do anything with this decline but I do somehow glad that bitcoins price is starts to cling up once again.

I believe this is the great tree shake and they are using ETF as the tool to shake the tree.  I believe the big boys are getting in and they want cheap prices.  I think later in the year things will turn.  All depends on how long it take them to load up. 

It's better to be a trader than a hodler currently. The prices are just falling so it's better to buy at extremely low and sell even if there is just one percent increment in price. You can earn some profit still

no problem, the down market is a common symptom in cryptocurrency. use this opportunity to buy coins that you feel you can use, for example Ethereum

There is no particular reason in the current decline all talking about speculation the ETF made the mindset of most new people to be disturbed and after delaying their decision directly to lift all the money in crypto, I just thought this was panic most people have a game in this situation is to reduce prices lower, yes that might happen with this crypto free market, that news is a very good medium to emphasize most people are pressing to sell assets owned, no matter what happens at the moment but buy more at the cheapest price is a very good thing and maybe for next year it will be very good compared to the current year.

If you look throughout the history that happens all the time! It is called time cycles. Economy always had crisises-they start and end. I guess that is part of our lives. What you need to do to avoid it, is to learn how to save money for the times like that. I remember my first time when i lost my job and i had no saving-was an interesting but hard time, which gave a very good lesson, that’s also the time when i thought about investments.

oh  come on its hard to say a lot about it but i am sure that this is all about season  and also a manipulation this is worst because theres a lot of newbies got  lose a lot of money because of manipulation by all whales so thats why i still holding my coin i dont want to sell even i loss a lot .

Everything was inflated last year.

It might take up to 2 years for GOOD crypto currencies to get back to the same price levels.

Bad crypto currencies will continue to go down until they die.

Only buy altcoins (https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/altcoins/) if you believe in the team and technology enough that you are willing to see the money go bye bye.

HODL Bitcoin.

It's summer.Most crypto traders(or atleast the big ones) are on vacation.This decreases the daily market demand,while the supply stays the same,because the small and frustrated sellers keep selling to get out of the markets with loss,instead of just relax and enjoy the summer. ;D

Having effect of ETF over whole market seems to me little off the track. It has some effect but not on the whole market. ETH is dropping ? Yes, it has gone wild these days and somehow people are not supporting it at all. I am suspecting this has got to do something with the transaction slowness of ETH as compared to other currencies. With the ever growing platforms ETH is not the only now now who is having great deal of characteristic. So you see it is all about market situation, ETH performance and much more.

The price of the ethereum is now really very low - $ 326. I do not think that ethereum was an overpriced coin. In comparison with bitcoin and the functions that it now performs, we can say that it is clearly pedo-valuable. Before a significant increase in the price, which is most likely already in the fall, it should float in value. This is not particularly affected by anything.

Market downfall is a big failure to cryptocurreny. Investors of cryptocurrency will sell their coins just to return there capital. Some of them will panic. It is like a domino effects that the will a affect investment to the end. But the trends of the the market today for me is just normal. No need to be panic. This is also what happen last year. I am very hopeful that it will pump for the last quarter of the year.

I think some big investors just manipulate the market in summer time. I have seen the same in stock market before. They just create panic in the market and buy at low price before the rally starts, which usually happens around october-november.

To guess the market right now is very difficult because prices continue to decline, but somehow I believe the market will increase slightly with prices falling as it is now, automatically if the price falls demand will increase. January 2019 I think prices will skyrocket again.

each bitcoin drop triggers something in the whole market. it acts as the fuse to light up the already excited altcoin market and that leads to big dumps that we have been seeing these days. the altcoins are currently going back down to their real prices and we may not see this market stabilized until they lose the fake prices that they have gained in the year 2017.
if you want a reason then you have to go back between 8 to 20 months and see the altcoin pumps that were happening then. that is the reason why we are seeing the drops right now.

The way I see it, crypto is going down because of its unpredictability. So while ETH is experiencing a successive dips, it could be the perfect time to buy more bitcoin and other altcoins as the prices will be very cheap. Because the price is down, now is the right time to consider long time investment. I am sure it will recover though.

This is easy the market went down because the SEC postponed their decision about the ETF, when the date gets closer again the price will recover momentarily as well, but I think people need to stop thinking about this, the changes in the price will only apply for the short term and nothing more even if the decision is positive this is going to create a mini bubble that will eventually crash.

Everyone is still confuse as to why the market has continued to fall in the past two weeks. Let us all hope the market recovers soonest.

For past two weeks again the price of bitcoin went down. This is normal in the crypto world, there is no particular reason for that. Maybe big whales are manipulating the market and due to demand of bitcoin these are the reasons for the price drop. But today the price started to increase dont know wthether it is continue or not. But once the price drop means just buy the bitcoin at low price and hold it for future. Surely the price will increase in future.

It is not that simple. How do you know that it will not drop further after the first price drop ?

I mean suppose there is major announcement coming regarding some country banning crypto. As soon as the news is leaked, price will start dropping. As per your suggestion, one should at that time. When finally the ban is imposed, prices will decline very fast and you will be in loss. I hope this hypothetical situation will help you make better decisions regarding time of entry and exit in a particular coin.

All promise winter in the end of the year. But here, this is probably a desire (hope) than a promise.

Maybe it is because ETF on bitcoin had been cancelled by SEC. Most people are waiting for it and since the announcement was made, the market demand on bitcoin declined. Also, we are currently in a bearish market, so that is why the market price and demand keeps on falling too.

The best guess that I can make right now is that bitcoin will recover in the first months of 2019 Or maybe it can be december because last year. December is the highest price of bitcoin which means people does have money at that time. Maybe this year also people would buy bitcoin.

Having so many bad news about cryptocurrency can affect the current value of bitcoin because there are too many people that are still selling their bitcoins. Sadly but they don't really understand what we are trying to make here. A better communication to all funds around the world.

Investing most of us should think that is investing for ourselves. Then we think of other things that are financial investment, real estate, ... But we should equip ourselves with skills to cope with the difficulties of the market. It is the core of investing and venture capitalists are more successful. I think so.

It is difficult to predict when the market will recover. because the market is quite difficult to guess clearly. Hopefully the market situation will be fine even though the market price is experiencing a decline.

The crypto market is in a bear market in the long run so it is easy to see that bitcoin and altcoin prices are falling, so you can see that the market is slowly falling into a recession, so to trade. Success at this time is very difficult and you should only trade the day and short-term investment in bitcoin to minimize the risk.

Its just a delayed and there is no final decision yet, its not cancelled maybe SEC needs more time to review this matter. The market is reacting on that negatively or there are some issues that investors may feel bad about it, let’s all calm down and don’t focus much on the price just try to focus on your real life and back here when market is pumping again.

You can't know the specific reason why all bitcoin, eth and altcoins are dropping right now there are many speculations and predictions why all crypto currencies are dropping but non of them I think are true even the experience users or have more believe in crypto wouldn't know that because its so very hard to speculate what is the reason of dropping.

No one knows what exactly was the reason behind na big dump of bitcoin and other currency now. Actually some coins was already increase last week but drop its price again this time. We, people just only predict and speculate on what price if will going to be but we dont really know if the coin was going up or down. On the other hand, we must keep holding until we get back what we loss because of this happening.

Every time the market dumps, such speculations and predictions are being made because there is really no exact reason for this since cryptocurrency is available worldwide and we don't know the exact situation on that place. Some people say its because of ETF, some may say because of the hype of the whales but it still unknown. If you just base on the chart, the bear market are still with us and we have a strong resistance that needs to be break again hopefully we can still see a real bull trend this year.

Market will not recover if all people like you that easily get upset with the performance of the market. It will only recover if people will continue to support cryptocurrency and stopping the FUD that blows away investors.

there is no definite reason why the market is down, so much speculation about this
but according to what I read the biggest cause is ETF but it also means that there is not much support.

I think the price of altcoin is down because the price of bitcoin is decreasing. You can see that the market is suffering a lot from the bitcoin price, and a bit of bitcoin pricing can make the whole market crypto volatility. Therefore, I believe that at this time you should only invest in bitcoin trading in order to minimize risk and resolve in time when the market continues to decline.

This is not about guessing, question like this is always making many speculations, if i it will be recovery in october, with base reason that market have same speculation like last year.

I'm also assuming that it's all due to the delay case of bitcoin ETF. Bitcoin's dominance is now 53.9% and that's high, it's an indication on where everybody must put their money.
ETH dropped lower than I expected as I've thought it will go stable at $300 and will bounce back to $400 but I'm wrong.
Maybe for another month?

I am not sure the market will recover quickly due to the case you mentioned, but according to my prediction the price will recover when the problem is over, the price of bitcoin increases and the altcoin price also increases. the prediction is at the end of 2018

it's going down because maybe they don't manage it in a right way

Before the price had risen quite high and then collapsed very quickly. it could be ensured that many users and investors made large-scale sales. there is no manipulation when I see it. everything changes naturally due to user action. You don't need to worry about that. the price will going back up. of course many people who sell before will return to buy right?

can add investment assets with a price drop. then hodl to wait for prices to rise even higher.

yes you are right the condition of cryptocurrency prices is currently down and there is a lot of bad news that attacks the cryptocurrency price which makes prices fall like this.

Based on my research, the best guess that I can make right now is that bitcoin will recover in the first months of 2019 Or maybe it can be december because last year. December is the highest price of bitcoin which means people does have money at that time. Maybe this year also people would buy bitcoin. Any thought?

People need to leave behind their hopes the market is going to recover in a fast way, I know we all want that, I am a long term holder and I want the market to recover as well but after all the months that have passed the only conclusion that I can come up is that the market is going to remain in this condition for a very long time and we need to accept that fact.

The movements of the crypto are due only to manipulations.
If they are going down now, it is because someone has an interest in this.
Probably the big institutions want to participate in the game, and they want to do it at the lowest possible cost.

well maybe what you say is true because many people now want to start investing from the lowest price to minimize the risk of losing market prices. because it's so necessary to increase profits if all the prices in the altcoin are in a positive trend

I think everything is going down currently due to the delay of the ETF. Most people are just waiting for the final decision of the ETF. If it turns out good, the market will recover quickly.

No you are wrong, the market price is going down because there are few people who are investing today and some of them are selling their coins just because of the fake news or fud.

The reason is that the market in inevitably unstable for a lot of purposes. Statistical information and trends show that the market influence a lot of factors involving monetary loss and profits. Same scenario happens in the outside market will be dictated also on the digital currency. Laws of supply and demands, marginal value and cost applies to all of these.

In the crypto market we are very distressed in today's events because of the market price dropping too low. here we are To predict a market today is really so hard that as prices continue to drop, but in all of this we are quite convinced that a market will fill in today's falling prices, automatically if the price falls hopefully it will increase. in January 2019 Others think prices are rising again but the duration of change is all awaiting a future success.

Yes that's true the whole market was going down but not particularly to recover again.
Ill think it will be recover soon because for now it was started increase the price of all coins in the market.

It might also be the reason of market going down is the manipulation technique of other business group that do not want others to invest because of competetion, if the whales will sell larger quantity of coins then this could be the reason the market price value will fall down.

I think the most logical reason when market prices worsened, is when many of his investors who sell on a large scale, this makes other investors panic and sell assetnya also making prices fall, no other reason.

I haven't heard someone saying that investors are more mature now and intelligent. Which means that they would not just enter the market because of FOMO. They wanted concrete evidence that the market will go and bounce back. And so far we haven't heard a single thing that will turn this market overnight. Most say that its the Bitcoin ETF, but it was postponed by SEC, so obviously then go and cash out again and will probably return it they are positive that market will really go and the price increased because of some good news.

People taking their money out. It has been months of no movement upside and people are not happy about it and they are growing tireless and people eventually need the money and they need to cash out or just simply they do not want to be in this anymore and they leave. That leaves bitcoin with less volume and that little volume makes it easier to speculate and manipulate and that causes bitcoin to go down because there are not enough people invested in it.

When money leaves a market than usually the price goes down as well, first people leave altcoins and to bitcoin, than they leave bitcoin and to fiat currency. All of this causes market to go down all together.

ETF postponement may be down If we are not disappointed bitcoin down, then it will grow again.

ETF news is the major reason for cryptocurrency market down this year we have many Etf news so the price volatility is too high

Yesterday a lot of people bought ETH because many ETH-based tokens were launched and automatically the interest of people to buy ETH was very large which finally ETH could reach the highest price and different from this year there were too many negative news about ETH-based ICO and the issue that social media decided to ban ICO which greatly affected the price of the ETH, after this negative news I think people started selling their ETH which caused the price to plunge freely. the conclusion is that the price of ETH is strongly influenced by the current market trend.

The reason the price is down, it is clear that many investors sell their assets and large investors also make prices fall too far. This is very worrying.

In my opinion, the market is down due to delay in ETF decision and necessary market correction. After the upsurge in prices of 2017, Experts traders should naturally expect market to retrace prices to their original value.

The whole crypto market has been a huge pump and dump. I suspect it's because the irrational exuberance of the Japanese and the Koreans who came in second half of 2017 as Bitcoin lead through its segwit hype and then the CBOE futures hype.

The only reason that i know why the market is still going down is, the people are losing hope from the market and they are now deciding to just abandon the market and sell their coin and start or get into a new type of opportunity and accept the fact that they lose a lot of money but if i were them, i will continue hodling and hoping for the come back.

The whole markwt is going down , as for this one reason for common price falldown is the plenty of marjet supply of different tokrns and altcoins ,for economic reasons ,when there is a much volume of coins in the market because of mass sells of coins then expect the low price status for coins with abundant supply of it in the market.

The bitcoin goes up, the bitcoin goes down, and everyone has an opinion.
in reality nobody knows what can happen, because the level of capitalization is ridiculous, and very little is enough to create panic or enthusiasm.
Perhaps, the only way to make money is to become a friend of some whale ...

The market is falling without any reason. Still the price is going down. The price decreased without any reason, any time. The market is growing without any reason. We do prediction but it does not match at any time. Asking the reason is unrealistic. No one can say when the Recovery will occur.

Share your point of view about that. I can add more. That is the last time electronic money was very successful. But in it there appear bad guys calling for participants. With the promise of being rich quick you do not have to do anything with money. Ridiculousness is very unlikely. When the bad guys took all their money and disappeared.

Unfortunately I must acknowledge that ethereum has been fallen very deeply especially in the last couple months. I am surprised and disappointed because I have betted on ethereum like you. I do not know real reasons why ethereum is so weak last time. Some analysts consider that institutional traders play their game having made a bet on falling ethereum. I do not know wethrer it is true or not. I have noticed that last couple of weeks ethereum has suspended its downtrend and it lloks very positively because it is possible that it is being formed a new uptrend.

people selling because they are panic while market going down sharply.altough we have no storng reason to sell it but most of them doing this.

Ever since January, this entire year has been bearish.
Because of the fact that the market is so sensitive a tiny thing could hurt the price. ETF wasn't a big thing and was already expected but it hurts the price so bad and moved the price of btc down to almost 5k and eth to almost $250.
When will it recover? may be several more months.

we always observe ups and down in crypto market and for every time there must be a special reason for that. i think for example the current decline in bitcoin price is only because of the EFT postponed, in fact for every time there is some special reason for that. 

There's not a lot of special reason. People always like to find a reason after the market falls and rises sharply. I think it's just a normal correction after Bitcoin's rapid rise in January.

people cant say when it will recover no one knows we were just giving speculations in the market but it doesnt mean it will be happen or it is true. Even those huge investors doesnt know that .

i think for whales you know when it's the right time to invest in Crypto. with large capital, i think they are able to move the market and influence many people to participate in buying. but of course they have careful calculations before going

Some say that it is a good time to invest in ethereum, others say that it is the beginning of total collapse.
I frankly prefer to be optimistic and preserve what I have, waiting for the events.
Keep in mind that the volume of trade is very low, so it is difficult to make good predictions.

The market is not going down. As we all know crypto market is unpredictable. As we can see, the value of bitcoin is very low compare the price of bitcoin last year.
Bitcoin market is like an economy that need to balance the supply. price and demand. We have little unbalance situation because of the happening right now. One thing to do is wait for the right time and hold for the mean time your coins and tokens.

The reduction of price in the whole market seems very disappointed and I don't know exactly the reason behind this fall but the best thing we should do to avoid this feeling is  to ignore anything about the market price and to stay positive that the market will recover soon.

the decline in market prices in trading not only occurs in the decline of the price of bitcoin but also in other crypto, we cannot predict the extent to which the price decline occurs and when the price increase returns. One thing to do is to wait for the right time and hold it for That means time for coins and tokens. There are those who say that this is a good time to invest in ethereum, others say that this is the beginning of total destruction.

I think, in the past few weeks due to the crash of the Korean trading market collapsed. So the whole of the world's cryptos market loses its value. But I think, in the next few months, their value will grow again.

Bitcoin movements are essentially due to speculation, so it is virtually impossible to find a logic.
If prices fall at this moment, it is because some of the big ones are worth it.
Yesterday there was a jump of 10% up, and after a few hours the price came back down.
There is no sense.

Don't be panic if the market was going dump, Actually it is always like that to going dump or pump.
Because we know it will be back soon if you hold some of our coins that we have.

We all know about the market it goes up and down, this is common in the crypto world. Don't worry about the current  price just buy more bitcoins at low price and hold it for future. Surely the market will recover at that we can see the good profit by selling the coin. There is no specific reason behind this but some says big whales are manipulating the market, due to panic people sell their coins instead of holding. But these are normally happens in the crypto market. Once the market recover many people are ready to invest in bitcoin.

At this time , few can give a forecast for growth, just many hope that sooner or later the market will be the same, where everything is only growing but so far we have a bear market.

At this time I would not say market can easily recover that much as things to be possible. Everytime I look at the ETH price it's almost not changing the price, and I think it's more have time to become like that, but hopefully and I wish that one day it's almost perfect of time to be happened.

that is very common, and for this year there have been 7 times or more movements chart like this. but this august and september is the lowest for this year. and certainly all will rise again when the price of bitcoin starts rising too. well nobody know when price will recover but for sure it will. thats why some people more said this is advantage.

This is also related to many scams incident that's why volume of supporters and user are quietly discharge or split to their usual activity then it will affect to the whole market that simultaneously going down, I think if the price going strong and continuously higher many people are gradually rise again.   

Yeah prices go up and down because they are influenced by news and speculation, or other factors. some time ago the price dropped because bitcoin ETF was rejected, it's one example of how news affects the market and it could be a high price increase if ETF is accepted. speculation, news, issues affecting the market..

I'm more on the fact that there was a huge spike at thr beginning of the year then a price correction after that resulted to people pulling out their investments. Then again, I'm quite enjoying that fact that the crypto currencies are kind of on sale. I cannbuy more to beef up my portfolio and watch it rise on the bull run.

The market is going down because people are taking their profit converting it into Fiat,
That is the only reason I see why the market keeps on going down.

I don't know if we should be paniced about this. What i do understand is that all coins right now are so affordable that you could opt to buy one or more whole coins and wait for it to be expensive again. I mean this bear market is not going to be for a whole year. Lastly, i think investors are wary of getting in crypto currency after that huge spike and dip.

if the market is falling then you should be able to take advantage of that moment to be able to buy as much coins as you can and after that you can wait until the price rises again or you can use it for short-term trading.

Market is going down because a lot of people are scared and they are selling off their asset which makes the market to go dip down, as for market recover, market is making a slow recovery now but it won't recover completely unless something like bitcoin ETF approval happens, before market will recover, it needs a huge news that will create a great fomo which will make people to jump right in and starts making investment.

At this stage, I would say the market has really gone down more than enough, and it is possible we can even start seeing a retrace as the case may be.

We just need to understand that it is a normal thing for a market to experience a downtrend which is called correction after an uptrend, and most especially, when that uptrend for fueled by greed at some point and every newcomer FOMOing.

The weak hands will always get to bail out and repeat the same process again and as long as they keep doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting different results, the whales will keep having a filled day. If a market is going down, then, buy the dips, it is just a chance for everyone to get equal chance, but since a lot of people are just after the getting rich fast thing, the joining of FOMOs is one thing they will always do.

I think that the reason for the lack of demand for coins after the last time, mainly to withdraw funds in Fiat, with the result that the cap falls, and with him the price!

I find it a bit difficult to believe any reason given by anyone for the current price of cryptocurrencies. All are mere speculations. I hope there is no hidden manipulation happening. All I can do now is wait for the right time because the price will come up one day.

Last year there was no ETF and there was FUD of China and later bitcoin price jumped to $20k. This year ETF. This is the accumaltion period and whales are accumulating. Almost every top altcoin is oversold on RSI. Bull run is near. November will be biggest month.

Supply & Demand.
There's no correlation with the progress in technical development at the moment.

the current market is normal. no one needs to worry too deeply. all will be able to return. as we know that the market will still recover

Additionally, too many people decided to convert cryptocurrencies into traditional money last year, when Bitcoin and altcoins reached their maximum. The crypto market lost a lot and started falling.

There are a number of reasons behind this like:

1) Manipulation by whales who have dumped the coins and thus reducing the prices by such a huge extent. They will again accumulate at reduced prices for higher gains.

2) Even the existence of so many coins is one of the reasons in my opinion. It divides the whole market share and hampers growth of each coin.

now prices have started to increase, we know eth has a significant increase. of course we hope that the market will recover soon. and that means the crypto market is starting to get excited again

Large investors like institutions keep coming in and this is good and bad as they head down the price with the power of big funds they have, manipulation will greatly benefit big fund owners and us as users can only follow the games they are doing. I hope there will be a big change in their mainset for future development of crypto

It is very obvious that the market has really gone down this year and this has created a whole lot of chaos in the cryptospace but let's not forget that cryptocurrencies are volatile and always you are advised that you should invest in cryptocurrencies an amount that you can lose. But don't lose hope guys the market will definitely rise up with time. Be patient and wait for that time :).

Other than the above reason, one more thing is that it is the end of the year and we are in the last week of the year. Most of the world are on holidays and all the markets are slow at this time of the year. I think we will see boom starting from the next year.

For no particular reason, the collapse of the cryptocurrency market has nothing to do with ETFs, and ETFs will make the cryptocurrency market better. But the current decline has nothing to do with ETF. I think it is caused by the abuse of ICO. Many tokens are worthless.

I think the current decline is due to the natural cycles that occur in Bitcoin, because prices have peaked at the end of 2017, so at the moment it causes price declines. And I am optimistic that after this decline prices will rise again.

I agree.The market price only moves either in upward or downward position and looking with the current price,it's comparatively low compared from december last year.But we should not be surprise about this because this is just a natural phenomenon for bitcoin.Let's just continue hoping that the market will recover as early as possible.I know it will bound to happen but i cannot tell exactly when.

Yes of course this ups and downs are commonly occur in the bitcoin market. We cannot judge the market with current price. Bitcoin will be the increasing in upcoming days now the price starts to increase. Hope it will continue at the same time we cannot expect good market in this year. Next year will be good for bitcoin we can expect bull run also.

the market is still difficult, the price movement is still very difficult to guess,
the hopes of reaching the best price this year seem to be gone,
seeing the fact that bitcoin is very difficult to break the $ 4500

I have my own speculation. when i see always everyday on my blackfolio if one of them are going higher why is it that other coins are followed to up? that's the big question of my mind at this time. is there any manipulating the price? what was the investment allegedly the reason to changed the number in blackchain market if there is something contrary with the situation of automatic computation of World wide ledger.

We are investing our money into one of the most volatile crypto currency, that is really normal.

If the price of Bitcoin declines, investors should never be scared. There are a lot of other investors that is taking advantage or taking the opportunity of these price dumps. It might be the only time this year that we will be seeing this price as it might create another record or ATH in the upcoming year.

It is not difficult to guess ,some of the genuine chart reader told it in Jan 2018 that we will get dump to below 4k and we can see rise in 2019-20.so there are very high Chance that old whales are manipulating to spike btc price.we have seen some good information related to btc in the past but prices still dumped so there was clear manipulation.

The market is declining because it is dominated by the number of sellers who sell their assets, so prices decline rapidly, and I think the factor that causes the number of sellers is the traders look panic because there are those who sell large, giving rise to panic sell.

all the coins in the trading market are indeed decreasing in price, if I am not brave enough to make investments now, my current plan is to trade long-term, if I use short-term trading, I will definitely suffer losses

Our market has been greatly affected by the economic downturn and this will continue for a long time. We should still take advantage of this bear market to buy more altcoins before the market recovers after a few years. I think the market will start to recover in 5 years.

My reason is that market prices are down because the content in the forum is not good and does not support bitcoin and the many rampant hackers that have been damaging the bitcoin image and I order for 2019 we must eradicate hackers that are dibitcoin and use good words in the bitcoin forum

Probably the reason why bitcoin prices did drop could be due to some big investors who are selling their coins which then affects the price of the coins and the other investors are as well doing the same which creates a chain reaction and results in a low usage volume and low price. I also heard that bots are also blamed for the low price because it is automated to sell the coins when a level is reached. I am not certain about this idea about bots but I just heard about it. The recovery may take sometime but it cannot be predicted as easily.

this forum didnt give big impact to bitcoin and cryptocurrency price.the discussion in this forum and market totally different.this forum just normal discussion , meanwhile outside there we see and heard many fud that make investors scare.

- Certainly, this forum is just a place to discuss and explain different information around the market, it does not directly affect the market price, the reason that the price of the market goes down can only be bad organizations such as hackers, they attacked and took money from exchanges, and that caused great damage to the market. The next organization is probably the whale organization, they want to make money and set up and organize this market by their way, every market collapse has their hands in it but they will always make the market come back when necessary, we should try to wait for them

NO. There's also a lot of FUD here, but the good thing is, members quickly shoot those who are spreading lies around and expose their motive behind so this community has done it's fair share of combating those members who likes to spread FUD here.

So this is not just a place to discuss, this is also a community wherein people are purist bitcoin in a sense but they know if members are just creating uncertainty and panic amongst us.

at least the whales have more funds, so they can worsen the atmosphere, plus fud factors that can scare investors into investing. but I guess that doesn't happen permanently, and we can see prices going up soon

I don't understand what you meant by prices are down because of the content of this forum, I do hope you understand that Bitcointalk doesn't influence prices we merely discuss events and prices here. The reason the prices are because of constant selling, and lack of positive news for bitcoins. Also one major reason is the lack of demand for it from institutional investors which is hurting it, but I feel 2019 shall be better.

Well this forum doesn’t affect the market, this is not a bias forum where you can discuss everything about crypto and any other concerns that you want to be discussed. The whole market is down because the manipulators are taking profit, and we can’t do anything about that. The demand this year for cryptocurrency will increase soon.

Well there is some reason to the market to going down when some people believe to the wrong news about it without making sure if its true or not. So I think the other reason why market dumping is because of the wrong prediction and many of us believe to it. But honestly we don't know what is the real reason why market goes down because there's a lot reason but we dont know what is the main reason of it.

manipulators don't seem to care about the conversation here, they choose to move according to their wishes to achieve the results they expect without looking at other people who have different goals

I think that the main reason for the fall in prices is the uncontrolled ability of speculators to buy cryptocurrencies and sell them outside the exchanges. Modern cryptocurrency exchanges are only a showcase of the price at which speculators want to buy assets from miners. The news is also coming up with them in order to manipulate the market.

I think the market is falling because people sell cryptocurrency seeing what is happening now, they are afraid to be left with nothing, when the market was growing, people invested money,  need a big event that will help the market turn around

The CRYPTO market is built to experience instability in price, investors only expect to see an upward movement always, we are sure to always experience the up and downward movement, sure the market is recovering, Manipulations by whale and the law of demand and supply are major reasons for the downward movement. Do not panic the bull season will happen.

the reason that makes the most sense and has very strong evidence is that there is bad news that makes many people panic and there is a government intervention that does not like cryptocurrency so the prohibition on using cryptocurrency will be the reason why bitcoin always falls in price.

all investors experience and get it all and I think not only you just before starting an investment we already know the risks that will be gained in investing with price crypto currencies and the development of crypto currencies or markets no one can know for sure even today some can predict the development of the crypto currency going forward

yes, the big dump that occurred in 2018 coupled with FUD, was the cause of the market decline. coupled with the efforts of ETFs that have not yet been received, the market still seems to be like this.

I think where there are bitcoin users who see someone's predictions of course it affects the market even though it's small effect. whereas in this forum the total number of users is almost 1 million? certainly speculation from influencers will greatly influence. you right if a lot of fud happens, of course it can affect the market

No one can predict when market recover again because its need positive sentiment. If bitcoin ETF approved by SEC, i think its great news and perhaps market can start recovery and investor confident can increase again after many negative news in market

I have no idea what ETF's connection to market crashes. What will be the impact of the crypto industry when the SEC has not approved bitcoin ETF? I think the users are the key to redefining the cryptocurrencies. They should not believe in spreading FUDs, they should trust the power of bitcoin.

Indeed, rumors and bad news about the market always have a direct impact on the market, it creates a chaos in the psychology of users and just one person that dump their altcoin, it may lead to domino effect and the market will become red. And if we analyze the problem more closely, connect these series of events, it seems to have a relationship and I believe whales and big investors, they control it, information and news come from them and people who dumped are also them, they are the most specific reason for the market to go down, their purpose is to make money from their prey, that is us

haha, those news don't usually affect the value of altcoins too much. that's just an excuse for whales to make the price of altcoins go down without being accused of manipulation.
This sudden downfall has shown that manipulation is very strong and it has not stopped here. But I like this, it can help us get rich if we invest in the right time. :D

 

If the market was going down, you shouldn't be worry about what is happening now mate.
This is just a matter that our patience are now being test and measuring of how long we can hold our coins
or how long we stand as a bullish. Instead of panic, lets take a chance to buy Eth now while the price is cheap
 then hold, okay.. Have a good day :)

Those who panic sellers that are continuing to believe in rumors and FUD are creating domino effect that can lead to declining of the market. Manipulation and price correction are also the reasons why the market is still down.

This fall in prices goes not only on cryptocurrency, but also fell seriously in the stock price amazon facebook APPLE so that prices are falling everywhere, people decided that they needed to withdraw money urgently

For now no one has guessed or predicts for sure the crypto market price will recover, can only wait and wait for better this year. Investors are now more focused on goods such as gold and dollars, all of which will improve for the future. investors will return to crypto that's where the market will improve.

This only proves that what goes up must come down or vice versa.  Well infact what happening by now is just a start of another rally. Everything happens for a reason.

The declines is still part of cryptocurrency cycle but some negative developments may also cause the downtrend. The coming hardfork of ethereum this month might help boost its price up maybe for short term. Bitcoin might still go sideways because of lack of positive news to boost the price of the leading cryptocurrency. The cryptomarket may still improve in the coming months but it will depend on some developments that will take place.

it's true that the price of all coins is down, advice for all those who trade today do not invest, if investing will definitely suffer losses, at this time I have not dared to invest in the trading market