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Title: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: yascrypto94 on September 25, 2018, 11:40:51 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 26, 2018, 02:02:24 AM
I am Muslim and i don't hate you guys, i have nothing but love for all living things.

It's the fakes always ruin it  :'(

Probably Mi5 or Cia creating a picture or the fake jews or both

Yes, it is those things. But it is the written religion as well. From http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...

but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:193).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember." 

 

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.


Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).


Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."


Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."  How does the Quran define a true believer?

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."  Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad.  The wounded are to be held captive for ransom.  The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test.

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"   

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

And there is a whole lot more listed at the site.

Muslims simply don't know what their religion calls them to do if they are serious about the love. Some of them become serious about their Islam, and you get the violence.

The Christian book, the Bible, on the other hand, while it has a lot of violence in the Old Testament, that was written a long time before the Quran came about. And the violence is NEVER directed in the same, violent way that it is in the Quran.

The New Testament, which also was written way before the Quran, exhibits almost no violence. In fact, the N.T. is totally about love and almost totally against violence.

Muslims who don't promote the violence of their religion, but rather preach love, peace, and joy, are either liars or highly mistaken about their religion.

If you are a Muslim, and you truly believe that Islam isn't a religion of violence, then you are in the wrong religion. Wake up, and put your religion into practice, or get out of it.

:)

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Foxpup on September 26, 2018, 03:16:26 AM
The problem is that BADecker's astounding level of ignorance is really not that unusual among Christians. Most Christians don't even understand their own religion, much less the history of Wahhabism. Hell, most of them probably can't even explain the difference between Sunni and Shia. It's really quite extraordinary, and would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. :-\


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: SkyFlakes on September 26, 2018, 04:54:13 AM
I think, the problem is not with the muslim people but those who created such idea that a muslim is always a terrorist. The people around them were the problem. But we could not blame those people at some point as they are just concern with their safety. But if it will go beyond that, then there's a problem that would arise. Let's keep in mind that yes some muslims are terrorist but there are also other terrorist of other religion or race, and also that it should not cover the idea that good muslims also exist.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: thunderbitz2717 on September 26, 2018, 06:05:59 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.


- In the first place, so sad to hear that you have haters because of being Muslim, am right?

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

- Well, I don't see any problems actually. If there is a problems that would the mindset of other people who gave a misinterpretation or giving an statement who created or who poison the mind of the others that most Muslim are bad people because of being terrorist which is wrong . Its not the right thing and its not good anyway. The mind of most people are too dirty and became judgmental to their neighbors.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: 7Dyoknga5 on September 26, 2018, 08:43:54 AM
Quote
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Pointing out those teachings doesn't make your beliefs any better. Regardless of any religion, the decision on how to treat others relies on ourselves.

There would be no winner on religious debate as it only promotes hate towards others.

Just be kind to everyone, that's the general rule of most people would understand


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: FilesFM_Announcements on September 26, 2018, 08:50:31 AM
John Lennon's song - Imagine says it best!
Do we really need religion in todays modern world?

[Verse 1]
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people living life in peace
You...


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on September 26, 2018, 11:24:27 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

Problem with Islam is that it is not just a belief in a deity.  It is also a political and legal system masquerading as a religion.

There are many Muslims (especially those who grew up in non-Muslim cultures or those who converted to Islam from non-Muslim cultures) who ignore the political and legal teachings and focus on the religious aspects, belief in Allah the merciful, do not harm others, help others, love your brothers and sisters the way Jesus did.  Maybe you are one of those Muslims and you ignore what is happening in Saudi Arabia or Somalia.  Maybe you think that the extremists are some lunatics who misinterpret the teachings of Muhammad.

However a vast majority of Muslims in Muslim countries and Muslim cultures believe that Quran needs to be followed literally.  If Muhammad lived today, he would identify himself with groups like ISIS not with some wishy-washy Muslims who live among the non believers.

Problem is that it is impossible to separate the three fundamental components of Islam.

You have to ignore large parts of Quran to stay peaceful and sane.

Christians have the same issue.  Almost all Christians do not want to follow the legal teachings provided in the Bible, killing gays or owning slaves comes to mind.

To do the same in Islam you have to admit that Muhammad was wrong.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on September 26, 2018, 11:33:52 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

nope i have no problem with you being a muslim,

problem is usually that some muslims cause trouble, and claim their religion for desiering that.

regards


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 26, 2018, 12:29:42 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

A lot of us have suffered from Muslim haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please.

Today Western people know what Takiyya is. They know Muslims will lie over and over when it suits them.

I have many Muslim friends and associates and we see pretty much the same regarding violent extremist Muslims.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Moloch on September 26, 2018, 12:40:50 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
A lot of us have suffered from Muslim haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please.

Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black?

You say, "don't play the innocent victim please", but you are pretending you have "suffered from Muslim haters, too"... lmfao... what Muslim has caused you suffering?  I'd love to hear that fucking lie


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on September 26, 2018, 01:47:04 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

A lot of us have suffered from Muslim haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please.

Today Western people know what Takiyya is. They know Muslims will lie over and over when it suits them.

I have many Muslim friends and associates and we see pretty much the same regarding violent extremist Muslims.

muslims that build their country and tried to free themselves from poverty also suffered, a lot from their fellow "muslim" terrorists

regards


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Dig Bicks on September 26, 2018, 02:03:18 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on September 26, 2018, 02:22:29 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: screwedit on September 26, 2018, 03:05:23 PM
Stereotypes, previous experience, and lack of understanding the culture. It all needs to be changed

I discovered that there is a feminism movement in the Arabic world! How great is it?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Dig Bicks on September 26, 2018, 03:17:31 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 26, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
A lot of us have suffered from Muslim haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please.

Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black?

You say, "don't play the innocent victim please", but you are pretending you have "suffered from Muslim haters, too"... lmfao... what Muslim has caused you suffering?  I'd love to hear that fucking lie
I wrote a sentence, inadvertently that could be interpreted two ways, so let me clarify.

I have no doubt that whatever my response Moloch will criticize.

"A lot of us have suffered from Muslims who are haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please."

(US refers to a great many people of various nationalities, ethnicities, religions who have suffered from radical Islam)

How many radical Islamic terror attacks since 9/11?

33,874

www.thereligionofpeace.com


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: anobtc on September 26, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
The problem I found was that the laws of Islam were very harsh with women, similar to Confucianism in my country in the past. However, the society in my country has changed a lot, and Confucianism is no longer as influential as it once was. But through the TV and the press, I see in Islamic countries there seems to be nothing much to change.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: jiniyaakter on September 26, 2018, 07:36:50 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 26, 2018, 07:54:40 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them
It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land
I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions
People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory
The locals dislike them, because they're threatened

The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on September 26, 2018, 10:23:18 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it removes male pleasure from sexuality for the rest of his life, this can have advantages.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on September 26, 2018, 10:24:46 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them
It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land
I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions
People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory
The locals dislike them, because they're threatened

The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough.

there is no problem with immigrants if immigration is well managed, immigrants also make countries richer, much much richer, there are countless examples for that

usa, europe, gulf states, australia, latin america, russia etc.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: yascrypto94 on September 26, 2018, 11:21:54 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

A lot of us have suffered from Muslim haters, too. So don't play the innocent victim please.

Today Western people know what Takiyya is. They know Muslims will lie over and over when it suits them.

I have many Muslim friends and associates and we see pretty much the same regarding violent extremist Muslims.

Are you serious, Takiya is another thing, Muslim Chiite use this Takiya not all the muslims, and I am not playing the victim, I am just discussing a problem

Thank you


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Betheng10 on September 26, 2018, 11:38:03 PM
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

And because of circumcision you hate muslim? You clearly set the bar for intellectual depthness about muslim

Circumcision is practised by cultures not just because of religious belief. This kind of statement and mentality promotes hatred not just against race or religion but people itself.

If you don't have anything good to say, just stay away with these kinds of discussion buddy. You're opiniom entitlement ends once others right starts.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: bluefirecorp_ on September 26, 2018, 11:42:35 PM
There's a problem. The fact that you believe in an almighty deity is just bonkers.

Your religion, and all religion just breeds hate and division. To deny free thinkers the right of thought is absolutely wrong. Indoctrination of your children with nonsense fairy tales is wrong.

Believing a pedophile is your prophet is wrong.

Yes, there's a problem, but not because you're Muslim, but because you're a theist.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: philipma1957 on September 27, 2018, 12:14:26 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am an American born person.

1 Norwegian grandparent.
3 Italian grandparents.

Raised catholic.

I don’t hate you.

But in my childhood neighborhood Italian American 95% catholic if I was asked to do a favor I kind of had to do the favor or look over my shoulder quite a bit.

In my neighborhood 90% of us or more were not in the position to ask for favors we had to do them when asked.

Most often we were not asked to do them and peace was more common then not.

I think most people that did not grow up in my type of neighborhood don’t have any idea of what it is like to grow up that way.

Since I was able to leave my old neighborhood when I grew up I did.

I think a lot of people believe most Muslims are good people but that if asked to do a favor they may feel like I used to feel.  Which is I better do what they ask me or me and my family will suffer.

Truth is. Percentage wise this is rare.  If there were only 38000 events of Muslim terror since 2001. That is a small number.  as 1,300,000,000/38,000 is 31,000 to 1 chance a Muslim picked at random will do a Terriost act in the next 17 years.

Pretty good odds that the average Muslim won’t do it.

But people fear that you may support the act if you are asked to do it.

Btw in the USA multiple terriost were reported to the fbi by family members and the fbi did zip nothing nada.

So I feel for you buddy.  Maybe one day people will grow up. Stop the crazy and act nice to each other.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Dig Bicks on September 27, 2018, 12:32:37 AM
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Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

And because of circumcision you hate muslim? You clearly set the bar for intellectual depthness about muslim

Circumcision is practised by cultures not just because of religious belief. This kind of statement and mentality promotes hatred not just against race or religion but people itself.

If you don't have anything good to say, just stay away with these kinds of discussion buddy. You're opiniom entitlement ends once others right starts.

Any person that supports genital mutilation deserves to fucking die.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: ejawusa on September 27, 2018, 07:01:37 AM
I'm Muslim too, and I don't want other Muslims to get bad treatment from everyone. Muslims don't always teach violence or things that can harm others. I think terrorists are not real Muslims because Muslims will actually not want to hurt others and even kill others.
We all have the same right to free and independent life, free to do whatever we like without hurting others. Let's be friends whatever our religion, the color of our skin, from any country because the friendship and peace is a very beautiful thing to be passed on to our next generation.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: iluvbitcoins on September 27, 2018, 11:34:37 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them
It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land
I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions
People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory
The locals dislike them, because they're threatened

The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough.

there is no problem with immigrants if immigration is well managed, immigrants also make countries richer, much much richer, there are countless examples for that

usa, europe, gulf states, australia, latin america, russia etc.

When migrants assimilate, no one is against them (mostly), but when there is mass immigration in which they create ghettos, hang out only with their own countryman and create basically a seperate society in your country,  dislike the host, that forms a problem.

If we import all of Africa to Europe, we're going to become Africa, and the Africans won't have a place to come to anymore, since our culture, which created this prosperity will be replaced by the newcomers culture which has failed to produce prosperity in their own countries.

In order to prosper from immigration it would be necessary for the migrants to adopt to our culture instead of maintaining the same culture that made them leave their country.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Helana on September 27, 2018, 11:39:20 AM
OP, as you can see taking a look at some of the quotes in here, the biggest problem is ignorance.
Nobody should be judged by the personal beliefs, but by the acts he/she makes. But, you know, the people are used to believe what the mainstream media is vomiting into their minds.



Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 27, 2018, 12:17:38 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

The problem is simple. Most Muslims are barely Muslim. Why? Because they don't obey the Koran - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. If they obeyed the Koran, they would be on eternal Jihad, just like ISIS.

So, the problem is this. When a Muslim is close to you, you don't know if he is a peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim, or if he is a lying, Jihad Muslim, just waiting for the right time to pounce.

And here is the problem with peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims. If a strong, jihad Muslim is in their presence, and he says, "Start fighting, right now, because the Koran says so, and if you don't, I will execute you, according to Koran dictates," what does the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim do? He fights or dies, right?

What does this mean? It means that any peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim can be converted into a jihad Muslim, almost on a moment's notice. It's only the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims who don't understand this. The rest of the people understand. So they are scared of Muslims, and protest them right out of the rest of society.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on September 27, 2018, 12:40:59 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

The problem is simple. Most Muslims are barely Muslim. Why? Because they don't obey the Koran - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm. If they obeyed the Koran, they would be on eternal Jihad, just like ISIS.

So, the problem is this. When a Muslim is close to you, you don't know if he is a peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim, or if he is a lying, Jihad Muslim, just waiting for the right time to pounce.

And here is the problem with peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims. If a strong, jihad Muslim is in their presence, and he says, "Start fighting, right now, because the Koran says so, and if you don't, I will execute you, according to Koran dictates," what does the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim do? He fights or dies, right?

What does this mean? It means that any peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslim can be converted into a jihad Muslim, almost on a moment's notice. It's only the peaceful, almost non-Muslim Muslims who don't understand this. The rest of the people understand. So they are scared of Muslims, and protest them right out of the rest of society.

8)

I agree with you that this ideology is very coercive.  "You are either with us or against us" type of deal.

The death penalty for leaving Islam makes this religion very similar to mafia, with Allah being the "capo dei capi".


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 27, 2018, 01:35:41 PM
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Are you serious, Takiya is another thing, Muslim Chiite use this Takiya not all the muslims, and I am not playing the victim, I am just discussing a problem

Thank you

Yes I am serious.

You do the right thing to explain that you are different from the bad Muslims. But that's your job to do that.

It's not someone else's duty to assume a stranger is peace-loving. And westerners have heard a lot of this before. "Oh, I am sunni, it is those Shiites who are the bad guys." And the other way around.

I might point out that a lot of Muslims think they are good, but they donate money to Hamas and believe it's right to kill all the Jews and the Great Satan (USA) blah-blah-blah.

You might keep in mind that many Westerners do not want to hear about religion, of any sort, including Islam. For many it's total nonsense to them.

Of course as I am sure you know the vast majority of Muslims do not really follow the teachings.

Does that make sense?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: MisO69 on September 27, 2018, 02:07:13 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree its a sick thing to do to a baby. The muslims do it to their women and call it female circumcision. When in fact all they are doing is cutting off their clitoris. It's no different than cutting a man's penis off.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 27, 2018, 03:45:37 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree its a sick thing to do to a baby. The muslims do it to their women and call it female circumcision. When in fact all they are doing is cutting off their clitoris. It's no different than cutting a man's penis off.

Male circumcision is indicated for some medical conditions. However, routine circumcision of all male babies is not recommended by any medical organization anywhere in the world. I've always found it strange that religious people believe God created us "in his own image", but then decide that that's not good enough and have to start hacking bits off shortly after birth. Also, the practice of religions carrying out the procedure without anesthesia, pain relief, sterile operating practices, any professional training whatsoever, and it some cases using their mouths to suck blood out of the penis afterwards is nothing short of barbaric.

Female genital mutilation (lets use its proper term) has no positive effects whatsoever, but a plethora of negative ones. It is simply mutilation. It is barbaric and inhuman, and any civilized country would charge it as aggravated assault.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 27, 2018, 03:50:05 PM
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Female genital mutilation (lets use its proper term) has no positive effects whatsoever, but a plethora of negative ones. It is simply mutilation. It is barbaric and inhuman, and any civilized country would charge it as aggravated assault.

But this is, if I recall correctly, not endemic to the Muslim world, but rather to certain cultures and nations.

Just to be fair.

The originator of this thread may find this practice as horrible as you.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 27, 2018, 04:01:10 PM
But this is, if I recall correctly, not endemic to the Muslim world, but rather to certain cultures and nations.

Just to be fair.

The originator of this thread may find this practice as horrible as you.

Agreed.

FGM is predominantly an African problem. The majority of FGM is practiced within Muslim societies in Africa, but it is also practiced within Christian societies within Africa. The Shafi'i madhhab is the only branch of any religion that requires FGM.

The country with the highest rate of FGM is Somalia at 98%. Somalia is >99% Muslim. However, Niger is also >99% Muslim, and only 2% of its population has undergone FGM. Indeed of the 0.3% Christian population in Niger, 55% have undergone FGM.

So as you say, although it is not endemic to all Muslims, the majority of practitioners are Muslim, although there is also a significant Christian component too.



Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 27, 2018, 04:56:04 PM
... there is also a significant Christian component too.


I did not know that...


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: arafat222 on September 27, 2018, 06:20:18 PM
In my opinion there is a serious problem with Muslims not islam.

Islam was meant to be a religion for all ages and in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.

The real problem lies in Muslims themselves


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 27, 2018, 06:39:38 PM
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Islam ...in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.
...
How is that possible?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Jimbable on September 27, 2018, 07:38:49 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
Problem isn't exactly with you personally, or anyone else for that matter. Islam really need a reformation, like Christianity once had. I don't have anything against a person, who claims to be Muslim, or Buddhist, or Christian, or even Pagan, but when your beliefs system put you above morality, or common sense, you will be having problem with everyone.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: joebrook on September 27, 2018, 07:54:04 PM
In my opinion there is a serious problem with Muslims not islam.

Islam was meant to be a religion for all ages and in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.

The real problem lies in Muslims themselves
If the problem lies with Muslims then it means the problem is with the religion but I don’t think so at all, people have their own motives and they brainwash others and use them to commit their atrocious acts. So in the end it all depends on the person and not the religion itself.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 27, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Yes muslims are truly evil people, that practice disgusting rituals such as circumcision.  Very sick people.

i have no problem with cirsumcision, its not bad necesarily, has also advantages.



Are you fucking retarded? It has ZERO benefits, ITS MUTILATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree its a sick thing to do to a baby. The muslims do it to their women and call it female circumcision. When in fact all they are doing is cutting off their clitoris. It's no different than cutting a man's penis off.

Male circumcision on the 8th day after birth, improves the immune system of the infant so extremely well, that he can almost always stand the autism producing shots he was given at the hospital. It's when the circumcision is done too soon, like on the day of birth, or too late, like long after the 8th day, that the results are barely effective.

There are no known benefits to female circumcision.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Jimbable on September 27, 2018, 08:23:46 PM
I would say, that after circumcision (albeit i did it while being adult), had it's advantages. First week after was hell and pain, though. After that it wasn't really bad, i say!
Though i think, it's really unmoral to do that with children (and to females it's a barbarism), they should have a choice in the matter of their bodies.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: yascrypto94 on September 27, 2018, 09:18:19 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am an American born person.

1 Norwegian grandparent.
3 Italian grandparents.

Raised catholic.

I don’t hate you.

But in my childhood neighborhood Italian American 95% catholic if I was asked to do a favor I kind of had to do the favor or look over my shoulder quite a bit.

In my neighborhood 90% of us or more were not in the position to ask for favors we had to do them when asked.

Most often we were not asked to do them and peace was more common then not.

I think most people that did not grow up in my type of neighborhood don’t have any idea of what it is like to grow up that way.

Since I was able to leave my old neighborhood when I grew up I did.

I think a lot of people believe most Muslims are good people but that if asked to do a favor they may feel like I used to feel.  Which is I better do what they ask me or me and my family will suffer.

Truth is. Percentage wise this is rare.  If there were only 38000 events of Muslim terror since 2001. That is a small number.  as 1,300,000,000/38,000 is 31,000 to 1 chance a Muslim picked at random will do a Terriost act in the next 17 years.

Pretty good odds that the average Muslim won’t do it.

But people fear that you may support the act if you are asked to do it.

Btw in the USA multiple terriost were reported to the fbi by family members and the fbi did zip nothing nada.

So I feel for you buddy.  Maybe one day people will grow up. Stop the crazy and act nice to each other.

I really appreciate your contribution, yes we are like others, the majority of muslims Don't know even what is Islam, they only live like other people, work, study, try to develop themselves


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 27, 2018, 09:19:40 PM
Male circumcision on the 8th day after birth, improves the immune system of the infant so extremely well, that he can almost always stand the autism producing shots he was given at the hospital. It's when the circumcision is done too soon, like on the day of birth, or too late, like long after the 8th day, that the results are barely effective.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/63/4d/a2634d816691c9babeb73adde3673944.jpg


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: NotoriousHodler on September 27, 2018, 09:32:26 PM
Not all muslim are terrorists, but MANY of terrorist are muslim. I think that's a problem, actually. People become biased if same thing keeps happening. I don't feel any hate towards you, but subconsciously i look out, when i see women in burkas or men with beards of Eastern-Asian origin.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 27, 2018, 09:49:14 PM
Not all muslim are terrorists, but MANY of terrorist are muslim.

That's just not true.

Only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US are carried out by Muslims. That number is only 2% in Europe. Even if every terror attack anywhere the world at any point in the last 50 years was committed by a Muslim, that would still be less than a hundredth of a hundredth of one percent of all Muslims.

You should be scared of far right, white males. They are statistically the most likely to kill you.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on September 27, 2018, 10:38:07 PM
Not all muslim are terrorists, but MANY of terrorist are muslim.

That's just not true.

Only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US are carried out by Muslims. That number is only 2% in Europe. Even if every terror attack anywhere the world at any point in the last 50 years was committed by a Muslim, that would still be less than a hundredth of a hundredth of one percent of all Muslims.

You should be scared of far right, white males. They are statistically the most likely to kill you.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000

That's really not true, but it's not fake news. It is just a rather complicated subject.

Interesting article on that assertion in Snopes.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/06/07/threat-extremists-more/

Also the percentage of Muslims that contribute money to or actively support terrorist groups in certain countries is well above 50%. But note that they may actively support terrorist groups aligned against their own government, not necessarily westerners.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: kemswag on September 28, 2018, 08:18:16 AM
I believe the international media are responsible for creating this bad impression about Muslims or Islam in minds of people. I used to assume the same mindset that all Muslims are terrorists but upon further research and  readings, I have been able to dissolve such thoughts. We need more Muslims to speak up since Islam is all about peace.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Dukjila on September 28, 2018, 08:57:52 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

The main problem of Muslims in stupid people who do not want to improve and live the last day.

It's like a Catholic church refusing to admit that the earth is round until a certain point.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on September 28, 2018, 10:08:20 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

Well the problem is people's ignorance and xenophobia and there's little you can do about that unfortunately. Just know that the root of such Islamophobia (or racism dressed up as a dislike of religion) is misplaced hatred. Deep down they hate themselves and need somebody else to blame for their failings in life so they blame people who are different to them such as foreigners or people with a different viewpoint or religious belief. They're usually too stupid to look in the mirror and realize the only person they should be blaming is themselves, but that's ignorance for you. I hear it's bliss.

Yes, it is those things. But it is the written religion as well. From http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...



8)

Jesus Christ, you're such a hypocrite. The bible says essentially the exact same things and arguably even worse:

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I will fill your mountains with the slain; those killed by the sword will fall on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines. I will make you desolate forever; your towns will not be inhabited. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Quote
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

- Richard Dawkins

I could go on but I can't be bothered and you won't pay attention anyway, but you can find more here http://www.evilbible.com/

In my opinion there is a serious problem with Muslims not islam.

Islam was meant to be a religion for all ages and in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.

The real problem lies in Muslims themselves

Probably all religions created thousands of years ago are incompatible with today's standards. If all Christians and Muslims followed the bible and quran literally then there would be beheadings and stonings in the street every day by both parties. Most Muslims don't care about Jihandism and just get on with their lives in peace, much like most Christians do and they don't want to stone homosexuals to death and kill their own children just for disrespecting them.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Moloch on September 28, 2018, 11:40:38 AM
Also the percentage of Muslims that contribute money to or actively support terrorist groups in certain countries is well above 50%.

I seriously doubt that... do you have a link/source to support such an outrageous claim that "well above 50% of Muslims contribute money to support terrorists"?!?


Since guybrushthreepwood said it so eloquently, I will just copy his reply here

Well the problem is people's ignorance and xenophobia and there's little you can do about that unfortunately. Just know that the root of such Islamophobia (or racism dressed up as a dislike of religion) is misplaced hatred. Deep down they hate themselves and need somebody else to blame for their failings in life so they blame people who are different to them such as foreigners or people with a different viewpoint or religious belief. They're usually too stupid to look in the mirror and realize the only person they should be blaming is themselves, but that's ignorance for you. I hear it's bliss.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on September 28, 2018, 12:33:26 PM
Well the problem is people's ignorance and xenophobia and there's little you can do about that unfortunately. Just know that the root of such Islamophobia (or racism dressed up as a dislike of religion) is misplaced hatred. Deep down they hate themselves and need somebody else to blame for their failings in life so they blame people who are different to them such as foreigners or people with a different viewpoint or religious belief. They're usually too stupid to look in the mirror and realize the only person they should be blaming is themselves, but that's ignorance for you. I hear it's bliss.

Well, this might be true for people who believe in other religions.  Most Atheists think Islam's ideology is a hogwash. Which it is.

We feel sorry for the people who are under its control.

Here is a take on this religion from an Arab who grew up with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG64EUUxOj4&feature=youtu.be

The religions are nonsense, and they should be ridiculed, no matter if someone gets offended.  

If you feel offended, well, too bad, grow up.

This particular religion makes people do some crazy stuff, like kill themselves and hurt others.  If you deny this, YOU have a problem.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: dee_x17 on September 28, 2018, 12:42:25 PM
There's no problem being a muslim, the problem was some radikalism people are muslim and bring they religion into a bad attitude, like some Haram stuff (not about dog and pork), here in indonesia the Indonesian Council of Ulama said Bitcoin is Haram, WTF dude??
And some people accidentaly are muslim too use the religion for politics, black campaign, etc.
As long u didn't bother other people, i think its okay mate ;)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: PhoenixEmpire on September 28, 2018, 02:04:13 PM
I think there is no problem of you being a Muslim or any other religion what so ever. everybody believe in some sort of things anyways being spiritual or not. But I think people should keep their faith for themselves no matter what and I think faith being faith in itself means you just believe that it is there/possible you haven't seen/touched it.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 28, 2018, 02:14:32 PM

Well the problem is people's ignorance and xenophobia and there's little you can do about that unfortunately. Just know that the root of such Islamophobia (or racism dressed up as a dislike of religion) is misplaced hatred. Deep down they hate themselves and need somebody else to blame for their failings in life so they blame people who are different to them such as foreigners or people with a different viewpoint or religious belief. They're usually too stupid to look in the mirror and realize the only person they should be blaming is themselves, but that's ignorance for you. I hear it's bliss.

Yes, it is those things. But it is the written religion as well. From http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...



8)

Jesus Christ, you're such a hypocrite. The bible says essentially the exact same things and arguably even worse:

Quote
I will fill your mountains with the slain; those killed by the sword will fall on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines. I will make you desolate forever; your towns will not be inhabited. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Quote
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

- Richard Dawkins

I could go on but I can't be bothered and you won't pay attention anyway, but you can find more here http://www.evilbible.com/


You are so silly. You pick out one little Koran quote, and try to use it to denigrate the whole Bible. In doing so, you show that you are just the same as God... without His power and mercy and love, of course... and that you are against Him.

The passage you show is Ezekiel 35:28. God is announcing how He will protect His people, Israel, against Edom. The Koran quote is telling Muslims to kill wantonly. Big difference.

Regarding Dawkins, simply look at multitudes of court records to find that we do all of the same, bad things that are written in the Bible. The idea of court is to correct the bad things. That's why you find judgments in the court records... corrections for the bad things listed. That is what the Bible is all about, but on a much larger scale than any man-made court. God correcting the bad of mankind.

You and Dawkins absolutely show wickedness, and your deceitful ignorance.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 28, 2018, 02:18:16 PM
There's no problem being a muslim, the problem was some radikalism people are muslim and bring they religion into a bad attitude, like some Haram stuff (not about dog and pork), here in indonesia the Indonesian Council of Ulama said Bitcoin is Haram, WTF dude??
And some people accidentaly are muslim too use the religion for politics, black campaign, etc.
As long u didn't bother other people, i think its okay mate ;)

Standard good Muslims are not Islamic. They should change their religion by rewriting the Koran, removing all the directives to do violence. If they did that, they might be a little closer to being Muslims. As it is, they don't know what being a Muslim is all about... not according to ancient Islamic writings, that is.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on September 28, 2018, 03:16:50 PM
There's no problem being a muslim, the problem was some radikalism people are muslim and bring they religion into a bad attitude, like some Haram stuff (not about dog and pork), here in indonesia the Indonesian Council of Ulama said Bitcoin is Haram, WTF dude??
And some people accidentaly are muslim too use the religion for politics, black campaign, etc.
As long u didn't bother other people, i think its okay mate ;)

Standard good Muslims are not Islamic. They should change their religion by rewriting the Koran, removing all the directives to do violence. If they did that, they might be a little closer to being Muslims. As it is, they don't know what being a Muslim is all about... not according to ancient Islamic writings, that is.

8)

I say you clean up the Bible first.  Be an example for others to follow.

If you can change, they can change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtDvmV4zr-Q


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Crypto_topic on September 28, 2018, 05:50:40 PM
I think, the problem is not with the muslim people but those who created such idea that a muslim is always a terrorist. The people around them were the problem. But we could not blame those people at some point as they are just concern with their safety. But if it will go beyond that, then there's a problem that would arise. Let's keep in mind that yes some muslims are terrorist but there are also other terrorist of other religion or race, and also that it should not cover the idea that good muslims also exist.

Exactly, it is the way of propaganda. Muslim=terrorist=avoid=report to police if something wrong.
Something like putting into peoples mind that behaviour.

Its not about Islam, its about people that creates that so called "truth". I used to live among muslims a lot, all of them were kind, helpful, very religious people, and always invites us for having a meal for special occasions. The hospitality I fell was one of the major thing.

I personally do not understand the hate towards muslims.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Crypto_topic on September 28, 2018, 05:57:38 PM
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Islam ...in my opinion is compatible with 21st century values.
...
How is that possible?
I also do not understand that how it is compatible with values now? Though I agree with the fact that the values has changed a LOT this days.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 28, 2018, 07:18:28 PM
I also do not understand that how it is compatible with values now? Though I agree with the fact that the values has changed a LOT this days.

None of the Abrahamic religions are compatible with modern values. They all condone violence, assault, murder, genocide, rape, prostitution and slavery to varying degrees. It's one of the most obvious arguments against people who think you can't be moral without religion. If we all behaved by these religious "morals", society would collapse overnight. The fact that we now outlaw slavery, rape and murder, is proof that not only does secular morality exist, but in fact almost everyone, including the majority of religious people, choose secular morals over religions ones.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Wananavu99 on September 28, 2018, 11:19:05 PM
The problem is that BADecker's astounding level of ignorance is really not that unusual among Christians. Most Christians don't even understand their own religion, much less the history of Wahhabism. Hell, most of them probably can't even explain the difference between Sunni and Shia. It's really quite extraordinary, and would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. :-\

Then there's Ahmaddiya Islam, heck even the Druze religion can be classified as a branch from Islam. There are so many branches, perhaps not as many as Christianity, but there's still a lot that many people don't even realize.   My dad's family is from Afghanistan and he would compare these different sects all the time. 

But for me - I love Sufism because it speaks to my soul. 

"When you let go of who you are, you become who you might be." - Rumi

Salam to all!


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 28, 2018, 11:26:11 PM
I also do not understand that how it is compatible with values now? Though I agree with the fact that the values has changed a LOT this days.

None of the Abrahamic religions are compatible with modern values. They all condone violence, assault, murder, genocide, rape, prostitution and slavery to varying degrees. It's one of the most obvious arguments against people who think you can't be moral without religion. If we all behaved by these religious "morals", society would collapse overnight. The fact that we now outlaw slavery, rape and murder, is proof that not only does secular morality exist, but in fact almost everyone, including the majority of religious people, choose secular morals over religions ones.

You simply don't understand their culture.

We have:
genocide - Yemen;
violence, assault, murder - Chicago;
rape, prostitution - all over America;
slavery - taxation.

In their culture, they did it a different way. God let them live, just like He lets us live. Why does He let us live? Because He knows He would essentially have to destroy us all if He applied His perfection to us. This way He gets some people who are on His side, in favor of Him... just like He got some people way back when the holy books were written.

If you study the holy books, and apply the moral law understanding you get from studying, you will see that there is a lot of good moral law that is as good as is our in those books. But the Bible moral law is the best. Why? It offers the most freedom at the same time it protects, morally.

Btw, the Bible is against slavery that is forced slavery, like kidnapping people to sell them as slaves. Voluntary slavery, where someone sold himself into indentured servitude for a time, was voluntary slavery. You have no right to take away the freedom of someone to contract into such a form of slavery.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 28, 2018, 11:28:25 PM
The problem is that BADecker's astounding level of ignorance is really not that unusual among Christians. Most Christians don't even understand their own religion, much less the history of Wahhabism. Hell, most of them probably can't even explain the difference between Sunni and Shia. It's really quite extraordinary, and would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. :-\

Then there's Ahmaddiya Islam, heck even the Druze religion can be classified as a branch from Islam. There are so many branches, perhaps not as many as Christianity, but there's still a lot that many people don't even realize.   My dad's family is from Afghanistan and he would compare these different sects all the time. 

But for me - I love Sufism because it speaks to my soul. 

"When you let go of who you are, you become who you might be." - Rumi

Salam to all!

You are talking about school all over America.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Wananavu99 on September 29, 2018, 04:49:41 PM
The problem is that BADecker's astounding level of ignorance is really not that unusual among Christians. Most Christians don't even understand their own religion, much less the history of Wahhabism. Hell, most of them probably can't even explain the difference between Sunni and Shia. It's really quite extraordinary, and would be funny if it wasn't so dangerous. :-\

Then there's Ahmaddiya Islam, heck even the Druze religion can be classified as a branch from Islam. There are so many branches, perhaps not as many as Christianity, but there's still a lot that many people don't even realize.   My dad's family is from Afghanistan and he would compare these different sects all the time.  

But for me - I love Sufism because it speaks to my soul.  

"When you let go of who you are, you become who you might be." - Rumi

Salam to all!

You are talking about school all over America.

8)

 :D :D, I think I would change the words of the Sufi poet and philosopher Rumi to "When you let go of who you are, when you find who you really are, this is when you will find the Divine and beauty in all".  

I was raised by a Christian mother and a Muslim dad, I have learned from both philosophies and religions.  I can't say I adhere to both or to one and not to the other, I've found my own path and I call it the "path of the Individual".  For I truly believe in the Individual and not the so called Collective mindset, look at what Collectivism is doing to our world.  It is destroying the fabric of society because of "group think" and the focus on centralizing power in Governments, Businesses etc is a danger to individual freedoms.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on September 29, 2018, 10:00:47 PM

 :D :D, I think I would change the words of the Sufi poet and philosopher Rumi to "When you let go of who you are, when you find who you really are, this is when you will find the Divine and beauty in all".  

I was raised by a Christian mother and a Muslim dad, I have learned from both philosophies and religions.  I can't say I adhere to both or to one and not to the other, I've found my own path and I call it the "path of the Individual".  For I truly believe in the Individual and not the so called Collective mindset, look at what Collectivism is doing to our world.  It is destroying the fabric of society because of "group think" and the focus on centralizing power in Governments, Businesses etc is a danger to individual freedoms.

Sounds to me like you are trying to find out what you really think deep down inside, by blocking out, for a while, the noise that comes in from the outside.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Shewar on September 30, 2018, 04:53:02 PM
in essence we are all the same even though we are different in religion, everyone has two characters, 1. good and 1. evil. everyone has a different personality, there are people who have liver diseases such as jealousy and envy, people like that who can become provocateurs in the midst of religious people and humans. because such people are not happy to see other people or other religions develop more advanced


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on September 30, 2018, 07:40:17 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims.

This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem.

Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides.

This hate is the problem. I am not the problem.


Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them
It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land
I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions
People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory
The locals dislike them, because they're threatened

The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough.

there is no problem with immigrants if immigration is well managed, immigrants also make countries richer, much much richer, there are countless examples for that

usa, europe, gulf states, australia, latin america, russia etc.

When migrants assimilate, no one is against them (mostly), but when there is mass immigration in which they create ghettos, hang out only with their own countryman and create basically a seperate society in your country,  dislike the host, that forms a problem.

If we import all of Africa to Europe, we're going to become Africa, and the Africans won't have a place to come to anymore, since our culture, which created this prosperity will be replaced by the newcomers culture which has failed to produce prosperity in their own countries.

In order to prosper from immigration it would be necessary for the migrants to adopt to our culture instead of maintaining the same culture that made them leave their country.

jes but its also not acceptable to abuse migrants as money earning cattle and demand assimilation from them,

its actually even against the constitution in germany (GG) as far as i now.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: yascrypto94 on September 30, 2018, 11:18:39 PM
in essence we are all the same even though we are different in religion, everyone has two characters, 1. good and 1. evil. everyone has a different personality, there are people who have liver diseases such as jealousy and envy, people like that who can become provocateurs in the midst of religious people and humans. because such people are not happy to see other people or other religions develop more advanced

I totally agree with you, we are all humans


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Wananavu99 on September 30, 2018, 11:33:25 PM

 :D :D, I think I would change the words of the Sufi poet and philosopher Rumi to "When you let go of who you are, when you find who you really are, this is when you will find the Divine and beauty in all".  

I was raised by a Christian mother and a Muslim dad, I have learned from both philosophies and religions.  I can't say I adhere to both or to one and not to the other, I've found my own path and I call it the "path of the Individual".  For I truly believe in the Individual and not the so called Collective mindset, look at what Collectivism is doing to our world.  It is destroying the fabric of society because of "group think" and the focus on centralizing power in Governments, Businesses etc is a danger to individual freedoms.

Sounds to me like you are trying to find out what you really think deep down inside, by blocking out, for a while, the noise that comes in from the outside.

8)

Ain't that the truth  ;)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BLAST2MARS on October 01, 2018, 03:12:44 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?



There is really not a problem but the media and the tv always shown Muslims in a negative way. Christians has a  bad history also like torturing people or kill them just to force them to accept their religion but the media shows it like it's just the minority of what really happened. While in Muslim, they higlight the terrorism and head cutting that affects the entirety of Muslims.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: MoonCrypt on October 02, 2018, 12:46:09 AM
to me such a question cant actually have a correct answer!! i have tried to always see everyone not with the eye of what he chooses to worship or believe in but at the point we communicating what the individual reflects!!

High Population where born into the religion!! we are made to believe in the system!!
Muslim is said to be a religion of peace but some groups have acted differently showing they cant accept living in peace
so if you ask a family member who lost a soul to a terrorist attack your question? the answer you should be expecting might be different
or if you ask some In Boko Haram region where they kidnap little girls from secondary schools who cant defend themselves i dont know what the parents response will be
so many cases round the world of chaos caused by the religion you mentioned so i dont know what to actually say 


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 02, 2018, 12:46:28 AM
Yes, and even, they are like have forgotten all the history of other religions, and focus on Islam only, unfortunately

islam is actually a nice religion,

but it was a painful process the wars in afghanistan/middle east to get muslims to want to develop and run their countries, getting them out of poverty.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: eddie13 on October 02, 2018, 01:00:39 AM
Here is a problem..

I am not offended if he speaks for my personality but if he talks about the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W. I am very offended.

anyone who has an Islamic religion is not offended by the insult to the Qur'an and Muhammad S.A.W means that his faith is doubtful.

Muhammad's a kiddie fiddler and therefore a pedophile. Your silly book is filled with false rumors, and should be categorized in the fiction section.

If Muhammad were alive today, he'd be thrown in jail for the shit he did. He's a bad person, yet you worship him as though he's a great man. Silly, ignorant peasant.

Overall, freedom of speech won't be limited by your nation's silly blasphemy laws.
talk to my ass
damn infidel



If your faith is so strong why do you even care about insults to them? Surely Mohammed and Allah will take care of the insults at a later date and you don't need to worry about anything. Just ignore it, especially if it's something that is only going to annoy or enrage you because people will see that and just attack you more, like the idiot above.
I really appreciate you.

but in my religion, that's the condition of faith if the Qur'an and MUHAMMAD S.A.W  were insulted then we as Muslims will not be angry if their personalities are attacked but when it comes to the Qur'an and MUHAMMAD S.A.W the lives are willing to be sacrified.

as a form appreciation to you, this's my last comment. I hope you can lock this thread as your form of wisdom.

thank's


I don't know any christian that would come to this for blaspheming Christianity..

Their is constant christian blasphemy in "christian" countries, but muslims go all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

They just can't seem to comprehend western values of liberty such as freedom of speech..


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on October 02, 2018, 01:20:51 AM
....
Their is constant christian blasphemy in "christian" countries, but muslims go all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

They just can't seem to comprehend western values of liberty such as freedom of speech..



Yes they can comprehend and appreciate these values.

It is in fact part of the reason they are eager to leave such repressive cultures and come to the west.

But there are some that just don't "get it."

Most Muslims didn't do a thing about Charlie Hebro. But a few did, and they did a massacre. Why? What was different with those few?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Nolan1331 on October 02, 2018, 01:38:07 AM
I think this the racism toward Muslim comes a lot from how medias portrayed them. There are a lot of extremelist that are Christian, or other religion too, but imo they are much fewer in number, so they don't cause that much of a hate as Muslim. What can you do about it ? Probably not much by yourself, learn how to live with it, and accept it. It's a serious matter, and by no mean easy to tackle by oneself. What you should do though ? Strive for the better. I'm sure if everyone at the very least has the will to live better, or change for the better, the image of Muslim will slowly, but steadily, improve. Best of luck pals


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: UconBit on October 02, 2018, 05:45:57 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
Just actively denounce extremists and be vocal about it so as not to associate yourself with them. I think the hatred stems from people not knowing your viewpoint about the subject. If someone tells you how much they hate muslims because they are terrorists, tell them you hate them even more because they give you a bad name and you are not a terrorist.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: criza on October 02, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
I absolutely do not think that there is a problem if someone whom I encountered with is a muslim. It is because, when provoked, only the humans can do not-so-good stuff, thus, the problem is not about religion but the people instead. And eventhough people are not muslims, I don't think that people who are not muslim were guarantee wilk give you no problem. To wrap it up, what I am trying to deliver is that we should not be biased and believe easily onto the things you have read and not yet confirmed especially when it comes to news about muslims. It is because some news were sensationalized thus some news were exagerated. Therefore, we must not treat them differently not treat them like there is a problem.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: lockes007 on October 02, 2018, 05:02:10 PM
The problem is not you my brother.
The world has been socialized by the media houses, newspapers,news agencies and websites on a generalization of the extreme acts of some bad people of the Islamic religion to saying that all people associated with the religion in any form hold or share similar extremist beliefs and values of the the small section of Islamic extremists.
You for one as a Muslim who may not share a similar extremist belief,has a role to play in disabusing the the media polluted-minds of the world who see no good in Muslims by living and sharing the love the religion teaches. This will make the world see you as a Muslim of difference, different from the media narrative propagated world wide


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on October 02, 2018, 06:02:45 PM
Are you a Muslim? If you are, you are one of 3 things:
1. An extremely weak Muslim who doesn't know, or doesn't agree with, the terrorism directives of his religion - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm;
2. A terrorist, directly;
3. A Muslim who lives among other Muslims and has peace, because he doesn't have to deal with non-Muslims.

That's it. Read your Koran.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on October 03, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
You are so silly. You pick out one little Koran quote, and try to use it to denigrate the whole Bible. In doing so, you show that you are just the same as God... without His power and mercy and love, of course... and that you are against Him.

 ::). I didn't pick out anything. I just 'snipped' the quote because I didn't need to quote it all. If anyone is being silly and picking quotes it's you. There's lot's of 'love your neighbor' type things in the Quran too.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/b1/1a/49b11a3ac13f604677d7a233b31cc11c.jpg

The passage you show is Ezekiel 35:28. God is announcing how He will protect His people, Israel, against Edom. The Koran quote is telling Muslims to kill wantonly. Big difference.

And like the Quran there is also a lot of rubbish about god being a dick and wantonly murdering people or even commanding people to murder. There really is not much difference between either book.

There's no problem being a muslim, the problem was some radikalism people are muslim and bring they religion into a bad attitude, like some Haram stuff (not about dog and pork), here in indonesia the Indonesian Council of Ulama said Bitcoin is Haram, WTF dude??
And some people accidentaly are muslim too use the religion for politics, black campaign, etc.
As long u didn't bother other people, i think its okay mate ;)

Standard good Muslims are not Islamic. They should change their religion by rewriting the Koran, removing all the directives to do violence. If they did that, they might be a little closer to being Muslims. As it is, they don't know what being a Muslim is all about... not according to ancient Islamic writings, that is.

8)

That's like saying you're not a good Christian if you don't murder people for all the things that are punishable by death according to the bible. How many people have you stoned to death for things like working on Sundays, blaspheming or being gay? If people followed the bible literally then they'd be in jail. Neither the bible or Quran are compatible with modern day values and absolutely cannot be taken literally.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on October 03, 2018, 02:31:28 PM
You are so silly. You pick out one little Koran quote, and try to use it to denigrate the whole Bible. In doing so, you show that you are just the same as God... without His power and mercy and love, of course... and that you are against Him.

 ::). I didn't pick out anything. I just 'snipped' the quote because I didn't need to quote it all. If anyone is being silly and picking quotes it's you. There's lot's of 'love your neighbor' type things in the Quran too. - What are you even talking about? The whole world is just like that. You can go to a Walmart and find soldiers who kill all over the Middle East at times, picking out loving birthday cards for their kids. If you want to know what is going on in religious books, you need to get into them and read them.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/b1/1a/49b11a3ac13f604677d7a233b31cc11c.jpg

The passage you show is Ezekiel 35:28. God is announcing how He will protect His people, Israel, against Edom. The Koran quote is telling Muslims to kill wantonly. Big difference.

And like the Quran there is also a lot of rubbish about god being a dick and wantonly murdering people or even commanding people to murder. There really is not much difference between either book. - Again, you are making a big mistake between the religions. The basic difference is that Allah requires perfection, and judges people based on how well they did their job of maintaining perfection.

God of the Bible sent His Son as a sacrifice for all the imperfection of mankind. The only requirement is to accept the sacrifice.

However, you have your property. You are allowed to use your property as you wish... or even destroy it if you want. God owns everything. So He has the absolute right to do with it all as He wishes. He is very patient with you when you talk against Him.


There's no problem being a muslim, the problem was some radikalism people are muslim and bring they religion into a bad attitude, like some Haram stuff (not about dog and pork), here in indonesia the Indonesian Council of Ulama said Bitcoin is Haram, WTF dude??
And some people accidentaly are muslim too use the religion for politics, black campaign, etc.
As long u didn't bother other people, i think its okay mate ;)

Standard good Muslims are not Islamic. They should change their religion by rewriting the Koran, removing all the directives to do violence. If they did that, they might be a little closer to being Muslims. As it is, they don't know what being a Muslim is all about... not according to ancient Islamic writings, that is.

8)

That's like saying you're not a good Christian if you don't murder people for all the things that are punishable by death according to the bible. How many people have you stoned to death for things like working on Sundays, blaspheming or being gay? If people followed the bible literally then they'd be in jail. Neither the bible or Quran are compatible with modern day values and absolutely cannot be taken literally.

The difference is that the the Koran/Hadiths instructions are for Muslims to go out and kill at certain time, under certain circumstances. And some of the instructions are to kill violently.

The Bible instructs no Christian to go out and kill, ever. The closest it might come is to allow Christians to protect their families and loved ones from those who are harming them.

That's a big difference.


8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on October 03, 2018, 02:36:19 PM
You are so silly. You pick out one little Koran quote, and try to use it to denigrate the whole Bible. In doing so, you show that you are just the same as God... without His power and mercy and love, of course... and that you are against Him.

 ::). I didn't pick out anything. I just 'snipped' the quote because I didn't need to quote it all. If anyone is being silly and picking quotes it's you. There's lot's of 'love your neighbor' type things in the Quran too. - What are you even talking about? The whole world is just like that. You can go to a Walmart and find soldiers who kill all over the Middle East at times, picking out loving birthday cards for their kids. If you want to know what is going on in religious books, you need to get into them and read them.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/49/b1/1a/49b11a3ac13f604677d7a233b31cc11c.jpg

The passage you show is Ezekiel 35:28. God is announcing how He will protect His people, Israel, against Edom. The Koran quote is telling Muslims to kill wantonly. Big difference.

And like the Quran there is also a lot of rubbish about god being a dick and wantonly murdering people or even commanding people to murder. There really is not much difference between either book. - Again, you are making a big mistake between the religions. The basic difference is that Allah requires perfection, and judges people based on how well they did their job of maintaining perfection.

God of the Bible sent His Son as a sacrifice for all the imperfection of mankind. The only requirement is to accept the sacrifice.

However, you have your property. You are allowed to use your property as you wish... or even destroy it if you want. God owns everything. So He has the absolute right to do with it all as He wishes. He is very patient with you when you talk against Him.


There's no problem being a muslim, the problem was some radikalism people are muslim and bring they religion into a bad attitude, like some Haram stuff (not about dog and pork), here in indonesia the Indonesian Council of Ulama said Bitcoin is Haram, WTF dude??
And some people accidentaly are muslim too use the religion for politics, black campaign, etc.
As long u didn't bother other people, i think its okay mate ;)

Standard good Muslims are not Islamic. They should change their religion by rewriting the Koran, removing all the directives to do violence. If they did that, they might be a little closer to being Muslims. As it is, they don't know what being a Muslim is all about... not according to ancient Islamic writings, that is.

8)

That's like saying you're not a good Christian if you don't murder people for all the things that are punishable by death according to the bible. How many people have you stoned to death for things like working on Sundays, blaspheming or being gay? If people followed the bible literally then they'd be in jail. Neither the bible or Quran are compatible with modern day values and absolutely cannot be taken literally.

The difference is that the the Koran/Hadiths instructions are for Muslims to go out and kill at certain time, under certain circumstances. And some of the instructions are to kill violently.

The Bible instructs no Christian to go out and kill, ever. The closest it might come is to allow Christians to protect their families and loved ones from those who are harming them.

That's a big difference.


8)

Leviticus 20:13, Do you want more quotes? I have created the whole thread about it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on October 03, 2018, 09:39:15 PM

That's like saying you're not a good Christian if you don't murder people for all the things that are punishable by death according to the bible. How many people have you stoned to death for things like working on Sundays, blaspheming or being gay? If people followed the bible literally then they'd be in jail. Neither the bible or Quran are compatible with modern day values and absolutely cannot be taken literally.

The difference is that the the Koran/Hadiths instructions are for Muslims to go out and kill at certain time, under certain circumstances. And some of the instructions are to kill violently.

The Bible instructs no Christian to go out and kill, ever. The closest it might come is to allow Christians to protect their families and loved ones from those who are harming them.

That's a big difference.


8)

Leviticus 20:13, Do you want more quotes? I have created the whole thread about it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

You really are having your problems, aren't you. Look through that Bible passage you posted, and you will see that Christians are never mentioned in there at all!

Now we understand why you talk the way you do. You can't read... probably not comprehend.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on October 03, 2018, 10:19:38 PM

That's like saying you're not a good Christian if you don't murder people for all the things that are punishable by death according to the bible. How many people have you stoned to death for things like working on Sundays, blaspheming or being gay? If people followed the bible literally then they'd be in jail. Neither the bible or Quran are compatible with modern day values and absolutely cannot be taken literally.

The difference is that the the Koran/Hadiths instructions are for Muslims to go out and kill at certain time, under certain circumstances. And some of the instructions are to kill violently.

The Bible instructs no Christian to go out and kill, ever. The closest it might come is to allow Christians to protect their families and loved ones from those who are harming them.

That's a big difference.


8)

Leviticus 20:13, Do you want more quotes? I have created the whole thread about it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

You really are having your problems, aren't you. Look through that Bible passage you posted, and you will see that Christians are never mentioned in there at all!

Now we understand why you talk the way you do. You can't read... probably not comprehend.

8)

Did your God inspire the writers to write these verses in the Bible?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on October 03, 2018, 11:05:02 PM

The difference is that the the Koran/Hadiths instructions are for Muslims to go out and kill at certain time, under certain circumstances. And some of the instructions are to kill violently.

The Bible instructs no Christian to go out and kill, ever. The closest it might come is to allow Christians to protect their families and loved ones from those who are harming them.

That's a big difference.


8)

Leviticus 20:13, Do you want more quotes? I have created the whole thread about it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

You really are having your problems, aren't you. Look through that Bible passage you posted, and you will see that Christians are never mentioned in there at all!

Now we understand why you talk the way you do. You can't read... probably not comprehend.

8)

Did your God inspire the writers to write these verses in the Bible?

Show us a directive for Christians to do the things of that verse.

I already showed the Muslim directives from the Koran and Hadiths.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on October 03, 2018, 11:29:01 PM

The difference is that the the Koran/Hadiths instructions are for Muslims to go out and kill at certain time, under certain circumstances. And some of the instructions are to kill violently.

The Bible instructs no Christian to go out and kill, ever. The closest it might come is to allow Christians to protect their families and loved ones from those who are harming them.

That's a big difference.


8)

Leviticus 20:13, Do you want more quotes? I have created the whole thread about it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0

You really are having your problems, aren't you. Look through that Bible passage you posted, and you will see that Christians are never mentioned in there at all!

Now we understand why you talk the way you do. You can't read... probably not comprehend.

8)

Did your God inspire the writers to write these verses in the Bible?

Show us a directive for Christians to do the things of that verse.

I already showed the Muslim directives from the Koran and Hadiths.

8)

Just burn the Bible if you think it does not apply to Christians.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: mae38 on October 06, 2018, 08:06:45 AM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?


Maybe because many people think all Muslim people are the same without even realizing that different individuals are different. You should learn to adjust to different people and show them that you are not what they thought. Just stay who you are and prove them they are wrong.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Wete on October 06, 2018, 01:01:09 PM
This whole world will feel crowded when living without tolerance, but if we live with feelings of love, even though the earth is narrow we will be happy. Through noble and peaceful behavior, spread sweet words, bless the world with respect. With love and smile spread among people. THIS IS ISLAMIC PEACE RELIGION. You don't need to feel hesitant to become a Muslim. Terrorist is not a islam !!! Islam is not a terrorist !!!


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: condura150 on October 06, 2018, 01:23:47 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I think that problem lies with the people judging the muslim people as terrorist. There's no problem being a muslim, muslim are also people that need, love, care, and support from other people, whatever religion or race you're in. Being a muslim is not a problem at all, the true problem is those people who point there fingers on other people and judge them base on their appearance.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on October 06, 2018, 01:40:13 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I think that problem lies with the people judging the muslim people as terrorist. There's no problem being a muslim, muslim are also people that need, love, care, and support from other people, whatever religion or race you're in. Being a muslim is not a problem at all, the true problem is those people who point there fingers on other people and judge them base on their appearance.

What do you think about these people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13WTFjcZWes

is this a problem in YOUR opinion?


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: mgaturon on October 07, 2018, 05:02:22 PM
As long as you're not affecting me , I dont care and there's no problem


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: af_newbie on October 07, 2018, 05:06:15 PM
As long as you're not affecting me , I dont care and there's no problem

You are a frog in a pot of boiling water.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: yascrypto94 on October 09, 2018, 02:14:42 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?

I think that problem lies with the people judging the muslim people as terrorist. There's no problem being a muslim, muslim are also people that need, love, care, and support from other people, whatever religion or race you're in. Being a muslim is not a problem at all, the true problem is those people who point there fingers on other people and judge them base on their appearance.

I totally agree with you, we are all human beings, even if we are different in religions


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: nguyenthuyduog on October 10, 2018, 07:02:26 AM
This is a difficult issue to explain!
the same is a Muslim. But not everyone is terrorist
Similarly, not everyone thinks Muslims are terrorists!
So I think it's all within the human being and how he thinks.
I met and talked to some Muslims. They are very funny and sociable :D :D :D


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Spendulus on October 10, 2018, 09:53:15 PM
I personally don't trust Muslims, before I totally repect them because I believed that there are some of them are good too, yes there have but most of them are traitors. I was raised in country with great population of Muslim and I experienced it how they traitor me in a small thing.

Most of them here are terrorists and destroying the cities, killing innocent person too.

I therefore conclude that there are muslims left with a heart.

Indeed. Even in the religion of hate and intolerance there may be some kind and gentle people.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: BADecker on October 10, 2018, 11:09:44 PM
Hundreds Killed by Heavy Fighting in Afghanistan - https://news.antiwar.com/2018/10/08/hundreds-killed-in-heavy-fighting-in-afghanistan/ (https://news.antiwar.com/2018/10/08/hundreds-killed-in-heavy-fighting-in-afghanistan/)


The Taliban may have all kinds of reasons for doing what they do, but their first and foremost priority is to spread Islam, just like the people of ISIS did. The reason why they do it with violence is, the holy writings of Islam tell them that they need to do it this way - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

8)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Marsel12 on October 30, 2018, 04:40:17 PM
The problem is that stereotypes are very characteristic of the human mind. This makes it easier for the brain to work, because there is no need to analyze and understand each individual person, but you can simply summarize everything. Not all people are aware that this is not correct. They just live with it.
I believe that society should convey to people information that it is impossible to judge everyone on the basis of belonging to nation or religion. It may seem trivial, but not everything is still realized.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: tentros on October 30, 2018, 04:41:33 PM
I think problem in stereotypes.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: darkangel11 on October 30, 2018, 06:01:25 PM
I think problem in stereotypes.

It isn't. I'll give you an example.
The crime statistics for the EU used to be good. It wasn't a paradise where you didn't have to use locks and alarms, but at least you didn't have to worry about being killed in the street. Some countries like Sweden had very low violent crime rates and the police in the UK didn't have to carry firearms.
Then the whole migrant crisis happened. The leftists lead by Merkel and Macron had decided that the EU should open its borders to refugees, but along with those refugees came migrants from different African countries like Eritrea and Somalia. The majority of these migrants were not fit to live in a society of any kind and the majority happened to be Muslim.

Years later the statistics are damning. Police in the UK is forced to carry weapons, and they quickly went from unarmed to armed in assault rifles. Police in Germany patrols the streets with dogs and never solo, since there were many attacks on officers in the past years. I've been in Berlin almost every year for the past 6 years and nowadays a sight of 3 heavily armed officers with a dog is normal, especially downtown. 6 years ago you'd have to go to an airport to see a similar patrol unit.


Sweden has the second highest non-indigenous Muslim immigration population rate in Europe and the second highest sexual assault rate in Europe. It would be foolish to pretend that this is a coincidence.

Take Ireland and the United Kingdom. The UK tops even Sweden in Europe’s sexual assault and rape statistics. At 130.96 per 100,000 for sexual assaults and 50.68 per 100,000 for rapes, the United Kingdom is the most dangerous place for women in Europe. One analysis claims that 1 in 5 women will be sexually assaulted and that 3.1% of women were assaulted in just the last year.

Belgium has the third highest Muslim population rate and the third highest sexual violence rate.


https://canadafreepress.com/article/muslim-migration-and-rape-statistics-in-europe

Now, tell me that there's no connection. That it's all stereotypes and prejudice.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Becksinsky on October 30, 2018, 07:29:05 PM
This may not be a problem for you. Your culture is unique and has its own characteristics like other cultures.
Unfortunately, not all people understand this. They see negative things in everything and do not want to see good.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Moloch on October 31, 2018, 12:09:13 PM
The leftists lead by Merkel and Macron had decided that the EU should open its borders to refugees...

By this I assume you mean they followed international law... specifically, The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, also known as the 1951 Refugee Convention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees)

Rights and responsibilities of parties to the Refugee Convention

In the general principle of international law, treaties in force are binding upon the parties to it and must be performed in good faith. Countries that have ratified the Refugee Convention are obliged to protect refugees that are on their territory, in accordance with its terms. There are a number of provisions that States parties to the Refugee Convention must adhere to.

Refugees shall
    abide by the national laws of the contracting states (Article 2)

The contracting states shall
    exempt refugees from reciprocity (Article 7): That means that the granting of a right to a refugee should not be subject to the granting of similar treatment by the refugee's country of nationality, because refugees do not enjoy the protection of their home state.
    be able to take provisional measures against a refugee if needed in the interest of essential national security (Article 9)
    respect a refugee's personal status and the rights that come with it, particularly rights related to marriage (Article 12)
    provide free access to courts for refugees (Article 16)
    provide administrative assistance for refugees (Article 25)
    provide identity papers for refugees (Article 27)
    provide travel documents for refugees (Article 28)
    allow refugees to transfer their assets (Article 30)
    provide the possibility of assimilation and naturalization to refugees (Article 34)
    cooperate with the UNHCR (Article 35) in the exercise of its functions and to help UNHCR supervise the implementation of the provisions in the Convention.
    provide information on any national legislation they may adopt to ensure the application of the Convention (Article 36).
    settle disputes they may have with other contracting states at the International Court of Justice if not otherwise possible (Article 38)

The contracting states shall not
    discriminate against refugees (Article 3)
    take exceptional measures against a refugee solely on account of his or her nationality (Article 8}
    expect refugees to pay taxes and fiscal charges that are different to those of nationals (Article 29)
    impose penalties on refugees who entered illegally in search of asylum if they present themselves without delay (Article 31), which is commonly interpreted to mean that their unlawful entry and presence ought not to be prosecuted at all
    expel refugees (Article 32)
    forcibly return or "refoul" refugees to the country they've fled from (Article 33). It is widely accepted that the prohibition of forcible return is part of customary international law. This means that even States that are not party to the 1951 Refugee Convention must respect the principle of non-refoulement. Therefore, States are obligated under the Convention and under customary international law to respect the principle of non-refoulement. If and when this principle is threatened, UNHCR can respond by intervening with relevant authorities, and if it deems necessary, will inform the public

Refugees shall be treated at least like nationals in relation to
    freedom to practice their religion (Article 4)
    the respect and protection of artistic rights and industrial property (Article 14)
    rationing (Article 20)
    elementary education (Article 22)
    public relief and assistance (Article 23)
    labour legislation and social security (Article 24)

Refugees shall be treated at least like other non-nationals in relation to
    movable and immovable property (Article 13)
    the right of association in unions or other associations (Article 15)
    wage-earning employment (Article 17)
    self-employment (Article 18)
    practice of the liberal professions (Article 19)
    housing (Article 21)
    education higher than elementary (Article 22)
    the right to free movement and free choice of residence within the country (Article 26)


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: nastyagav on October 31, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
You're not the problem, you're good and kind and peaceful, but most of your brothers aren't.
I have nothing against you, I have a friend of Muslims, a very decent and kind person.


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: Getcoinsite on October 31, 2018, 01:48:23 PM
Hello;

Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.

I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.

I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.

So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
Do you know whats the problem?its about RESPECT  people from every religions has their respect from the Gods they worshipping,but dont have even a little to the God or Others,this is the main reason why we are suffering from this hatreds.

For me as Christian’s,i respect every people religion whats important for me is what Gods can bring to my life.even theres this terrorism and any bad activities from muslim or other religions


Title: Re: I am muslim, is there a problem?
Post by: darkangel11 on October 31, 2018, 05:31:33 PM
The leftists lead by Merkel and Macron had decided that the EU should open its borders to refugees...

By this I assume you mean they followed international law... specifically, The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, also known as the 1951 Refugee Convention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_Relating_to_the_Status_of_Refugees)

Not really. We should first explain the word refugee.
Every person who, owing to external aggression, occupation, foreign domination or events seriously disturbing public order in either part or the whole of his country of origin or nationality, is compelled to leave his place of habitual residence in order to seek refuge in another place outside his country of origin or nationality."[6]

Now, tell me what occupation and such is taking place in Eritrea, Somaila, Nigeria and Pakistan? They were supposed to allow Syrian refugees to seek asylum in the EU, but evidently distinguishing one Asian from another is too much for them. They wanted refugees and they got... rapefugees.