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Title: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 11, 2014, 07:32:41 AM
DOGE is a joke / scam coin and has been from day one. Anyone whose been around a while knows; some of it's Devs are far from trustworthy guys!

Ever since Wolong stopped his single handed inflation the DOGE price has been bleeding, with the charts showing a clear nose dive beyond the current market depreciation.
Don't take my word for it, the facts have been available a while. http://www.dailydot.com/business/wolong-dogecoin-market-control-trader-bitcoin/

DOGE is an perfect example of a pump and dump hype machine in action, making those on the inside rich, leaving the less informed out of pocket hanging on with blind hope!

The damage this kind of coin does to the crypto market/movement is extremely high and it has lead to an abundance of clones that are using these same hype methods to fleece new and unsuspecting investors of their money!

The crypto movement is a better form of money, a currency that enables true freedom from the powers that be; it is these ideals that IMO drove the early adapters and the majority of investors!

Bitcoin and litecoin both have these good qualities but are fast being priced out of the market, the pre-mine and centralized currencies defeat the purpose of the crypto movement and therefore IMO are a waste of time, they will not make you wealthy as the centralized nature doesn't ensure they will not make more coins and depreciate your investments or heavily regulate it in the least. And who is really in charge of these?

That only leaves a couple left to invest in, the only top 20 coin that has the volume for the global community and is still cheaply available is Infinitecoin IFC. IFC also subscribes to the true crypto movement ideals!

This is just my educated opinion, so keep your replies on topic and not personal please!



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: claycoins on March 11, 2014, 07:56:19 AM
And it is any different to your attempts to hype infinitecoin? 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: ubi4doges on March 11, 2014, 07:58:45 AM
wow such FUD very scare pls no abandon DOGE

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/14/f0/c2/14f0c2d7c56fb7e5eb965fc5dc9b4646.jpg


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 11, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
Prove me wrong!

If it's FUD show me your evidence proving me wrong?

I put forward evidence and can put more forward more about Wolong and the Dev's!



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 11, 2014, 10:45:09 AM
And it is any different to your attempts to hype infinitecoin? 
Infinitecoin has no pump and dump hype operating! Everyone's free here to advertise coins they like!

So your comment is completely redundant, as it is very different! 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 11, 2014, 10:51:31 AM
I would tend to agree with the op. At those prices why wouldn't you have ifc as part of your portfolio. Also this is a community run coin so there are a lot of individuals looking after it's well being and not mainly depending on person to do everything. That's the real difference!


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Cryptock on March 11, 2014, 10:52:24 AM
Review- Pawncoin

Pawncoin is an exciting investment opportunities for long-term investor. Because it solves most problems faced by alt-coins, which is low degree of acceptance, most businesses are not accepting crypto-currencies apart from Bitcoin.

Pawncoin solves this by a building business model around their coin to be used as a payment system for their online pawnshop. This will let people to pawn their items; jewelries and other valuables for Pawncoin. This will encourage quick adoption of Pawncoin among users and businesses.

Market prediction:
Pawncoin has a limited supply of 84 million which makes it rare and increase the market attractiveness among long-term investor that are into rare coins.

I am expecting Pawncoin to quickly raises up in market value as the Pawncoin foundation begins to execute their business plans.

Pawncoin is available now through IPO. This is most rewarding IPO so far, they offers escrow services through the mighty Tomatocage and bonus starting from 2.5% to investors and and and lots of bounties :D

BTT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=508824.0




Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Cryptock on March 11, 2014, 10:53:57 AM
Why you should not invest in INFINITECOIN.---coming soon


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: WompRat on March 11, 2014, 10:55:31 AM
It may prove stupid,  but I am moving a shit ton of money into Doge.  I have absolutely no problem with pools mining and dumping dogecoin for bitcoin, they only have a few months left to do so.  Feel free to laugh at me in October if the price is less than $0.0008 per doge.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Labteck on March 11, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
It's dying.
Dogecoin    $ 44,898,783    $ 0.00076    58,877,344,237 DOGE    $ 1,093,196    -11.44 %


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Nullu on March 11, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
X coin is dying, invest in Y!

Replace X with current coin going down, and Y with current coin you hold.

A formula for success.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Cryptock on March 11, 2014, 11:08:26 AM
INFINITECOIN---Review

If you are looking to invest in a real future like the poster said, you should avoid Infinitecoin. It has lost its former glory and it only surving on Chinese market lifeline.

Inifitecoin started off with a huge community support but where are the development team. It has been long i heard anything interesting about Infinitecoin. Only a few like the poster who are trying holding the majority of the loot of 90.6 billion coins are still hanging around looking for their next victims.

Nowadays, a coin with billions max supply is just plain ridiculous  as we are know they don't hold their values in the long run like Inifitecoin, huge fluctuation .

 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: tinus42 on March 11, 2014, 11:08:35 AM
Coinpumper accuses other coinpumper of coinpumping. :D


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Cryptock on March 11, 2014, 11:09:27 AM
Coinpumper accuses other coinpumper of coinpumping. :D

This gonna be a HOT topic ::)


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 11, 2014, 11:48:42 AM
INFINITECOIN---Review

If you are looking to invest in a real future like the poster said, you should avoid Infinitecoin. It has lost its former glory and it only surving on Chinese market lifeline.

Inifitecoin started off with a huge community support but where are the development team. It has been long i heard anything interesting about Infinitecoin. Only a few like the poster who are trying holding the majority of the loot of 90.6 billion coins are still hanging around looking for their next victims.

Nowadays, a coin with billions max supply is just plain ridiculous  as we are know they don't hold their values in the long run like Inifitecoin, huge fluctuation .

 

Quite an uninformed review. The development team at ifc just reorganized and you can see on their forums that they have a lot of stuff in development for the coin. Holding some ifc as part of your portfolio wouldn't hurt especially at these prices. If you look as the steady rise over the last few months you would see why it is a good deal. Rare coins as you put yours has a history of a pump them a massive crash. Just so you know, I overpaid on eBay for ifc back in October, with an $80 investment that is now worth over $2k

Of course you don't care to know this. Good luck with your pump of your coin. I may add it to my portfolio if it proves itself


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: HCLivess on March 11, 2014, 11:54:07 AM
This kind of propaganda does not work anymore. Learn to be more subtle.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 11, 2014, 12:05:23 PM
Not propaganda if it's the truth. I have some as part of my portfolio and I agree with the op that it is a good investment so far. I have some doge also but will dump it. The good news and only good news with doge, is that I can mine it at anytime as it never runs out


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: c1010010 on March 11, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
I'm not a DOGE fan, I want that to be known up front.  I'm not trying to pull a fast one on you and pretend I have no loyalty - I want to be honest - so to be clear, I believe in IFC.  I don't believe in DOGE.

DOGE coin rocketed to stardom based on silly images and bad grammar.  If anyone can explain the rapid rise in any other terms, I would happily adjust my opinion.  It was/is a fad.  The recent news about market manipulation within DOGE is upsetting, but really does not surprise me at all.  A lot of people made a lot of money in this hypefest - and it is very hard to fault them for it.   Altcoins are big business and a those that decided to light the DOGE rocket and ride it to the top did very well for themselves.  But, on the opposite side of that - a lot more people lost money.

IFC is a steady performer.  Always has been, always will be.  There are no pump and dumps.  There are no "wow such coin" image storms - IFC is trying to build a market.  Trying to work its way into businesses and into the hands of consumers.  Now, The whole coin market has been taking a hit over the past month or two due to, in part, the MTGox debacle as well as rampant fraudulent activities - and everyone is feeling that pinch.  IFC is down from its peak.  But look at the data... it is steady.  It is solid.

What is my point?  

I see this as a wonderful time to get in to IFC if you have not been involved so far.  
If you are already involved, time to decrease the average cost of your investment by grabbing what 'the panicked" drop as they flee for higher ground.

The nature of stability in an investment generally means you don't get to participate in the rocket-pumps... but you also don't get drilled by the super-dumps either.

If you are tired of riding a meme up and down (and as it is now - really, REALLY down) - try some stability for a while.

Lets be completely honest here, are you a trading rock-star that has tens of thousands to gamble on reading the pump/dump timings?
Or are you looking to invest in a future currency with potential to be great?

tl;dr : Get in to Infinitecoin, and be part of something greater.
 



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: coinits on March 11, 2014, 12:59:39 PM
IFC is not a pump and dump and people who claim otherwise are uninformed. IFC sets itself apart from all other cryptos because they have planned for life after mining by still making it mineable.

Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.

Now coins like Doge are pump and dumpster primo coins..Everyone should rejoice that these disposable coins exist. The volatility that they create are great for people with high hash power. If you can not afford large rigs then cloud mine scrypt and/or multicoin pools. They target the pumps of the pumps and dumps making you quick cash.

Rejoice at stable coins like IFC and make quick profits off of the Doges :)


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: solid12345 on March 11, 2014, 01:04:11 PM


Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.


Not a Doge shill but come on, do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: coinits on March 11, 2014, 01:11:58 PM


Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.


Not a Doge shill but come on, do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?

I do not live in a world of make believe anything. I deal in facts. Fact: IFC already has global reach. Fact: IFC's charitable foundation is going places you could never imagine. Name another coin making inroads with the United Nations. BTC has not even gone there.

All other coins,every single one, have not made inroads where IFC has gone.

Do your due diligence and you will see. Off to catch my flight, paid in part with IFC.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: WompRat on March 11, 2014, 01:32:27 PM


Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.


Not a Doge shill but come on, do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?

I do not live in a world of make believe anything. I deal in facts. Fact: IFC already has global reach. Fact: IFC's charitable foundation is going places you could never imagine. Name another coin making inroads with the United Nations. BTC has not even gone there.

All other coins,every single one, have not made inroads where IFC has gone.

Do your due diligence and you will see. Off to catch my flight, paid in part with IFC.


I had a quick look at the Infinitecoin Foundation page.  I think it is great that this coin is helping people donate to the OLPC cause, but I think it is a bit disingenuous to the other coin communities to suggest that you are doing something unique.  A lot of the coins including bitcoin, litecoin and dogecoin have given quite a lot of money to charity and may they continue to do so. 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: TECSHARE on March 11, 2014, 06:33:43 PM


Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.


Not a Doge shill but come on, do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?

Funny you say this, because this is exactly what DOGE coin does.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 11, 2014, 06:35:57 PM


Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.


Not a Doge shill but come on, do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?

That is funny. Isn't doge unlimited?  ;)

 I was beaten to the punch


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: HiroS on March 11, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Anyone with sense would stop reading when you said scam coin. Dogecoin may have started as a just-for-fun coin but it now has a serious following and developers. They have everything they need to progress the project and should not be lightly ignored. Having said that their price was pushed high early on which leaves them no where else to go but down so the drop in value should not be a surprise. They are now at half their value which should trim some of the fanboys which can be as bad as the haters.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 11, 2014, 09:36:46 PM
Right on Que the DOGE pump machine rolls into to action to try and hide the fact it's hemorrhaging!

I predicted this, just forgot to post it! 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: XbladeX on March 11, 2014, 09:39:47 PM


Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.


Not a Doge shill but come on, do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?

That is funny. Isn't doge unlimited?  ;)

 I was beaten to the punch

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply

Lets take BTC Oldest coin for example BTC inflation will be lower than Doge in 15-40 teen years...
Or maybe later due to BTC are burnig coins XPC, converting them look Mastercoin... or simply loosing wallets.
I am sure you will be hold your BTC for 15years untouched.

Doge vs Infinite... Comon guys...
Currency is for using i have using Doge...
I have sold few things on stuffcoins (Ebay style market)...
There is many shops with Doge accepted huge community behid it...
On markets price are going up and down yea this is not normal...
If you are playing with daily trade you willsell if you aiming in long run Doge is not bad becouse it will be soon mined out...
and supply wont be such big as now...
THAT currency have dedicated doge shops ext...
What have infinite ? How you can sped them ?
Don't get me wrong few games... yea impressive.
In some time that will change but in reality swaping one POW coin to another just for profit in long run in middle of mnig is pointless
new coins on market are killing price thate is not many BTC and alts are sapamming like zergs zelings to eat BTC :D.

DOGE is live price have dropped but that doesn't mean Doge is dead...
I know you want attract people but this is not good way starting party just becouse some coins is falling...
Next month it can goes up why not then down...
I am sure with Doge it can have many shops and points of utylization probably more than IFC...

I will be very suspicious with POW coins they are spaming every day new i don't see anything special in IFC..
In Doge i can see many dedicated people young people and young people create future remember...

Do you have online wallet... or lite client... or mayby shop like eg. stuffcoins ?...
No? So PLS Gtfo from Doge... until you have serious arguments...


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Bobsurplus on March 11, 2014, 09:43:46 PM
OP may or may not be right.

What is right is www.einsteinium.org

 ;)

You're welcome.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: XbladeX on March 11, 2014, 09:45:40 PM
OP may or may not be right.

What is right is www.einsteinium.org

 ;)

You're welcome.

"Do you have online wallet... or lite client... or maybe shop like eg. stuffcoins ?...
Come here when you have serious arguments..."


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Bobsurplus on March 11, 2014, 09:47:06 PM
OP may or may not be right.

What is right is www.einsteinium.org

 ;)

You're welcome.

"Do you have online wallet... or lite client... or maybe shop like eg. stuffcoins ?...
Come here when you have serious arguments..."

Relax. The coin is 9 days old. All in due time.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: XbladeX on March 11, 2014, 09:51:37 PM
OP may or may not be right.

What is right is www.einsteinium.org

 ;)

You're welcome.

"Do you have online wallet... or lite client... or maybe shop like eg. stuffcoins ?...
Come here when you have serious arguments..."

Relax. The coin is 9 days old. All in due time.
OK. Np mate back here with arguments many coins delivers promises ^^.
I am confused there is 4-5 alts everyday.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 11, 2014, 10:28:17 PM
Thanks for the post XbladeX I will update the status of the IFC development shortly.

The setting of deep foundations takes time and resources and the winners of the crypto race will not be decided for years to come, the players are now just fighting for position and some for survival. The acceptance and infrastructure is also in its infancy but those blazing ahead, should do so with caution as if the GOX things has shown us anything it is hackers have no fear of size when lining up their next targets.

I suppose my faith and confidence in IFC comes from the fact that I'm on the inside and know what's coming, it would be nice to spout off and create a buzz but as anyone with any time in this industry knows ideas are a stolen commodity in this biz, as such secrets must be kept.



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 11, 2014, 11:50:18 PM
LOL GJ IFC supporters

Keep proving my point.

http://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ambulance-chasers.jpg


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: rikkejohn on March 12, 2014, 12:02:12 AM
IFC is not a pump and dump and people who claim otherwise are uninformed. IFC sets itself apart from all other cryptos because they have planned for life after mining by still making it mineable.

Further, it is truly a financial instrument for the masses. Affordable and slow steady growth. You will not see a hyper inflated beast coin.

Now coins like Doge are pump and dumpster primo coins..Everyone should rejoice that these disposable coins exist. The volatility that they create are great for people with high hash power. If you can not afford large rigs then cloud mine scrypt and/or multicoin pools. They target the pumps of the pumps and dumps making you quick cash.

Rejoice at stable coins like IFC and make quick profits off of the Doges :)

WTF? IFC is a classic pump and dump, went from 0.000000016 to 0.00000430

got dumped to about 0.000000150

got pumped right away to about 0.000000270

got immediately dumped, and kept dumping to about 0.000000050

Then it stagnated at around 0.000000080

After which it was dumped to about 0.000000012

Then it got pumped to about 0.000000525

Now it is getting dumped and is currently at about 0.000000350

* Disclaimer: figures are only approximately accurate


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: TECSHARE on March 12, 2014, 12:24:34 AM
Your point is we are poorly illustrated lawyers?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 12, 2014, 12:51:12 AM
For someone that claims to be a whale in IFC he really tries hard to piss all over it.  ???
Don't worry, ifc won't go up till you offload all of it and leave you behind  ;D


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: rockstar888 on March 12, 2014, 01:09:22 AM

yeah Doge is a clear scam.

devs are selling already since beginning of march.
how you guys not know that, is just crazy.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 01:23:57 AM
Your point is we are poorly illustrated lawyers?

Only that you imitate poorly illustrated ambulance chasers.  Sorry if that was over your head.   I'm only making a statement when I should be asking why you would play off of the collapse of another cryptocoin by promoting your cryptocoin.  What it means to me is that you are not identifying with the merits of your coins but instead trying to collect people who lost money in DOGE to trust IFC instead.  I find that somewhat amoral.  And this is why I do not like the new IFC management.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 01:26:34 AM
For someone that claims to be a whale in IFC he really tries hard to piss all over it.  ???
Don't worry, ifc won't go up till you offload all of it and leave you behind  ;D

I recommend you dig, I mean really dig through my old posts regarding IFC and you will see how much I invested in IFC back almost a year ago when it was first released.  You can contact RubberDucky as well, hopefully he retained the post I made to him about y holdings in IFC.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Warning__3 on March 12, 2014, 01:31:35 AM
sooo, how many IFC do you hold really?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 12, 2014, 01:32:00 AM
Obviously you have a very personal beef with the devs. You should take that and get it resolved privately. Seems like they gave you an option to have some say in the future of the coin and there was a misunderstanding, maybe in the way it was asked. Doesn't make sense holding so much and putting it down. You are ultimately just hurting yourself.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 02:12:24 AM
Obviously you have a very personal beef with the devs. You should take that and get it resolved privately. Seems like they gave you an option to have some say in the future of the coin and there was a misunderstanding, maybe in the way it was asked. Doesn't make sense holding so much and putting it down. You are ultimately just hurting yourself.

What about transparency? Doesn't it cut both ways?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: SUNcoinDEVs on March 12, 2014, 02:15:50 AM
im biased but id say SUN is on low price now. we had 4k satoshi stabile and 9k at tops.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 12, 2014, 02:16:58 AM
What are they not being transparent about?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 02:25:40 AM
What are they not being transparent about?
Transpernecy is about presenting the developer's view and the consumer/miner/traders views.  blade007 you posted:

Quote from: blade007
Obviously you have a very personal beef with the devs. You should take that and get it resolved privately. Seems like they gave you an option to have some say in the future of the coin and there was a misunderstanding, maybe in the way it was asked. Doesn't make sense holding so much and putting it down. You are ultimately just hurting yourself.

If you want me to take it offline then you oppose transparency because you do not want me to post publicly what my "beefs" with IFC developers are about.

In reality it is what was discussed privately is what caused me to initially loose favor with IFC.  I held on for some time thinking it was just my perception of posts and events.  But my long term view is justified by threads like this and others that just solicit IFC through giveaways and shameless pumps.  Its fine for a new coin but for one that is almost a year old seems incredulous.  It should me mature enough to use better tactics. 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: zackclark70 on March 12, 2014, 02:28:46 AM
I personally supported IFC up until the point I realised that its going to be really hard to keep mining power on the coin when the block reward drops very low right now IFC can be 51% attacked with not to much hash power

if the block rewards were dragged out over a longer amount of time it would have made a lot of difference but right now the only way to keep the minors mining it to keep upping the TX fee

if would like to have a more secure investment you might want to take a look at POS ( Proof of Stake ) coins as they don't rely on POW hash power to keep things moving :)


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 12, 2014, 02:44:40 AM
What are they not being transparent about?
Transpernecy is about presenting the developer's view and the consumer/miner/traders views.  blade007 you posted:

Quote from: blade007
Obviously you have a very personal beef with the devs. You should take that and get it resolved privately. Seems like they gave you an option to have some say in the future of the coin and there was a misunderstanding, maybe in the way it was asked. Doesn't make sense holding so much and putting it down. You are ultimately just hurting yourself.

If you want me to take it offline then you oppose transparency because you do not want me to post publicly what my "beefs" with IFC developers are about.

In reality it is what was discussed privately is what caused me to initially loose favor with IFC.  I held on for some time thinking it was just my perception of posts and events.  But my long term view is justified by threads like this and others that just solicit IFC through giveaways and shameless pumps.  Its fine for a new coin but for one that is almost a year old seems incredulous.  It should me mature enough to use better tactics. 

I don't oppose transparency, it just feels like this is personal for you and the better forum is to talk directly and offline. Just my openion


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 02:57:30 AM
I personally supported IFC up until the point I realised that its going to be really hard to keep mining power on the coin when the block reward drops very low right now IFC can be 51% attacked with not to much hash power

if the block rewards were dragged out over a longer amount of time it would have made a lot of difference but right now the only way to keep the minors mining it to keep upping the TX fee

if would like to have a more secure investment you might want to take a look at POS ( Proof of Stake ) coins as they don't rely on POW hash power to keep things moving :)

This is what I anticipated would happen.  Instead the initial development team walked away and a new team took its place thinking that it was just a mere marketing effort rather than a technical issue.  There were several potential changes that should have been made and still could be made.  Infinite coins...  do what DOGE does, infinite coins, provide random rewards with a high stake.  Miners would join the network on the off chance that they hit big.  Change to variable-n factor.  Transition is easy and you gain the adopt of many GPU farms after the ASIC flood swamps scrypt mining.

There are SOOOOOOOOOOO many options but the developers are not smart enough, or aggressive enough to try to redefine the coin network.  Unless I see more innovation or better ideas, I don't have high hopes for IFC like I did.  I have to find the original developer to see what he is doing today.

POS is a good idea and should be included in ever coin bot shouldn't be the end all be all factor of a coin.  POS would help IFC but would not be  game changer for me.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: cryptohunter on March 12, 2014, 02:58:38 AM
IFC is okay but i have taken most of my ifc and spread them over tix and adt .... i feel best to have all 3 right now. I have gone longer still in ADT now it is on the cgb base and an active dev is back.

Tix i like too ... been very strong from the start. All 3 are good, but at current prices i rank them adt>tix>ifc> in terms of value  but keep some of all 3 of course.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 03:14:36 AM
IFC is okay but i have taken most of my ifc and spread them over tix and adt .... i feel best to have all 3 right now. I have gone longer still in ADT now it is on the cgb base and an active dev is back.

Tix i like too ... been very strong from the start. All 3 are good, but at current prices i rank them adt>tix>ifc> in terms of value  but keep some of all 3 of course.

It is a good strategy.  Keep some of a coin in hopes that it improves.  I'll have to define a number of coins to keep in storage if the coin development team matures or another one takes over.  There really is no risk at this point.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 12, 2014, 04:10:05 AM
I personally supported IFC up until the point I realised that its going to be really hard to keep mining power on the coin when the block reward drops very low right now IFC can be 51% attacked with not to much hash power

if the block rewards were dragged out over a longer amount of time it would have made a lot of difference but right now the only way to keep the minors mining it to keep upping the TX fee

if would like to have a more secure investment you might want to take a look at POS ( Proof of Stake ) coins as they don't rely on POW hash power to keep things moving :)

This is what I anticipated would happen.  Instead the initial development team walked away and a new team took its place thinking that it was just a mere marketing effort rather than a technical issue.  There were several potential changes that should have been made and still could be made.  Infinite coins...  do what DOGE does, infinite coins, provide random rewards with a high stake.  Miners would join the network on the off chance that they hit big.  Change to variable-n factor.  Transition is easy and you gain the adopt of many GPU farms after the ASIC flood swamps scrypt mining.

There are SOOOOOOOOOOO many options but the developers are not smart enough, or aggressive enough to try to redefine the coin network.  Unless I see more innovation or better ideas, I don't have high hopes for IFC like I did.  I have to find the original developer to see what he is doing today.

POS is a good idea and should be included in ever coin bot shouldn't be the end all be all factor of a coin.  POS would help IFC but would not be  game changer for me.

Well seems to me that from the other thread, you had a chance to give some input on the future of this coin but instead you took offence and took your bags and left. Crying now, whether right or wrong, is not going to help. Looking at your old posts over the last week on IFC you can clearly see you have a real vendetta. You don't like it then leave it be.
The old Dev would have left it to you if you were capable. Instead he left if to someone very capable and he is following his vision of the coin based on the concept that it was created after.
You know something, I see this all the time. Its not only with IFC but the community behind a lot of these coins are happy when the coins are soaring but the time it sinks they sit back and take a shit on the devs. I wouldn't be suprised if some of these devs just says fuck you and go about their business.
This is currently happening with earthcoin, and forget premine, you shit all over the guys doing the work then he has no reason to do anything to get you richer.
The difference with IFC is that the community is actually coming together and doing things and assisting the dev. Once again you were asked to be a part of this and you fucked off.
You are not happy with it buddy then please yourself. Keep your stash and hope for the best or sell it. Makes no difference. Slinging this shit around just hurts the smaller holders of this coin. And it is shit you are slinging because they clearly invited you onboard to be a part of the direction of this coin, no matter how you spin it.
Your choices are to get with the team and share your vision and maybe things will change or keep yammering. The latter is just stupid. It's pissing where you drink from!

Hope this is transparent enough for you


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 04:27:57 AM
I personally supported IFC up until the point I realised that its going to be really hard to keep mining power on the coin when the block reward drops very low right now IFC can be 51% attacked with not to much hash power

if the block rewards were dragged out over a longer amount of time it would have made a lot of difference but right now the only way to keep the minors mining it to keep upping the TX fee

if would like to have a more secure investment you might want to take a look at POS ( Proof of Stake ) coins as they don't rely on POW hash power to keep things moving :)

This is what I anticipated would happen.  Instead the initial development team walked away and a new team took its place thinking that it was just a mere marketing effort rather than a technical issue.  There were several potential changes that should have been made and still could be made.  Infinite coins...  do what DOGE does, infinite coins, provide random rewards with a high stake.  Miners would join the network on the off chance that they hit big.  Change to variable-n factor.  Transition is easy and you gain the adopt of many GPU farms after the ASIC flood swamps scrypt mining.

There are SOOOOOOOOOOO many options but the developers are not smart enough, or aggressive enough to try to redefine the coin network.  Unless I see more innovation or better ideas, I don't have high hopes for IFC like I did.  I have to find the original developer to see what he is doing today.

POS is a good idea and should be included in ever coin bot shouldn't be the end all be all factor of a coin.  POS would help IFC but would not be  game changer for me.

Well seems to me that from the other thread, you had a chance to give some input on the future of this coin but instead you took offence and took your bags and left. Crying now, whether right or wrong, is not going to help. Looking at your old posts over the last week on IFC you can clearly see you have a real vendetta. You don't like it then leave it be.
The old Dev would have left it to you if you were capable. Instead he left if to someone very capable and he is following his vision of the coin based on the concept that it was created after.
You know something, I see this all the time. Its not only with IFC but the community behind a lot of these coins are happy when the coins are soaring but the time it sinks they sit back and take a shit on the devs. I wouldn't be suprised if some of these devs just says fuck you and go about their business.
This is currently happening with earthcoin, and forget premine, you shit all over the guys doing the work then he has no reason to do anything to get you richer.
The difference with IFC is that the community is actually coming together and doing things and assisting the dev. Once again you were asked to be a part of this and you fucked off.
You are not happy with it buddy then please yourself. Keep your stash and hope for the best or sell it. Makes no difference. Slinging this shit around just hurts the smaller holders of this coin. And it is shit you are slinging because they clearly invited you onboard to be a part of the direction of this coin, no matter how you spin it.
Your choices are to get with the team and share your vision and maybe things will change or keep yammering. The latter is just stupid. It's pissing where you drink from!

Hope this is transparent enough for you

You only looked back a few weeks?!?!  LOL take a Ritalin pill and try going bac' a few months.  Yes since IFC was under new management it has failed time and time again.  I"m not crying.  I still have over $500k in the coin I"m trying to sell off.  I'm not going to cry if it is only $100k or $1mill.  2 months of mining at $2000 means PROFIT!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!! 

Don't get mad bro,  if I'm selling off my coins just buy them off me.  I'm only ask you buy them at 500 or higher so I can collect my half million plus.  After all you care more about the coin than I do.  So you seem to fee that the current price is a great value.  So buy them M eFer.

I"m not happy so I'm selling.  Of course you want me to keep them so I don't tank your investment.  Usually when people say "if you are not happy then GTFO".  Funny you didn't say that.  Seems you would be a bagholder if I got out at current prices.  You are SOOOO obvious!

Thanks for being transparent.  This is great for IFC.  It reports to the community where everyone's pain points are.  Seems your pain points are at current prices.  My pain point would be at... oh... about... .00000001.  So as long are I get .00000002 I get a 200% profit. 

So there is that.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 12, 2014, 04:35:28 AM
I personally supported IFC up until the point I realised that its going to be really hard to keep mining power on the coin when the block reward drops very low right now IFC can be 51% attacked with not to much hash power

if the block rewards were dragged out over a longer amount of time it would have made a lot of difference but right now the only way to keep the minors mining it to keep upping the TX fee

if would like to have a more secure investment you might want to take a look at POS ( Proof of Stake ) coins as they don't rely on POW hash power to keep things moving :)

This is what I anticipated would happen.  Instead the initial development team walked away and a new team took its place thinking that it was just a mere marketing effort rather than a technical issue.  There were several potential changes that should have been made and still could be made.  Infinite coins...  do what DOGE does, infinite coins, provide random rewards with a high stake.  Miners would join the network on the off chance that they hit big.  Change to variable-n factor.  Transition is easy and you gain the adopt of many GPU farms after the ASIC flood swamps scrypt mining.

There are SOOOOOOOOOOO many options but the developers are not smart enough, or aggressive enough to try to redefine the coin network.  Unless I see more innovation or better ideas, I don't have high hopes for IFC like I did.  I have to find the original developer to see what he is doing today.

POS is a good idea and should be included in ever coin bot shouldn't be the end all be all factor of a coin.  POS would help IFC but would not be  game changer for me.

Well seems to me that from the other thread, you had a chance to give some input on the future of this coin but instead you took offence and took your bags and left. Crying now, whether right or wrong, is not going to help. Looking at your old posts over the last week on IFC you can clearly see you have a real vendetta. You don't like it then leave it be.
The old Dev would have left it to you if you were capable. Instead he left if to someone very capable and he is following his vision of the coin based on the concept that it was created after.
You know something, I see this all the time. Its not only with IFC but the community behind a lot of these coins are happy when the coins are soaring but the time it sinks they sit back and take a shit on the devs. I wouldn't be suprised if some of these devs just says fuck you and go about their business.
This is currently happening with earthcoin, and forget premine, you shit all over the guys doing the work then he has no reason to do anything to get you richer.
The difference with IFC is that the community is actually coming together and doing things and assisting the dev. Once again you were asked to be a part of this and you fucked off.
You are not happy with it buddy then please yourself. Keep your stash and hope for the best or sell it. Makes no difference. Slinging this shit around just hurts the smaller holders of this coin. And it is shit you are slinging because they clearly invited you onboard to be a part of the direction of this coin, no matter how you spin it.
Your choices are to get with the team and share your vision and maybe things will change or keep yammering. The latter is just stupid. It's pissing where you drink from!

Hope this is transparent enough for you

You only looked back a few weeks?!?!  LOL take a Ritalin pill and try going bac' a few months.  Yes since IFC was under new management it has failed time and time again.  I"m not crying.  I still have over $500k in the coin I"m trying to sell off.  I'm not going to cry if it is only $100k or $1mill.  2 months of mining at $2000 means PROFIT!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!! 

Don't get mad bro,  if I'm selling off my coins just buy them off me.  I'm only ask you buy them at 500 or higher so I can collect my half million plus.  After all you care more about the coin than I do.  So you seem to fee that the current price is a great value.  So buy them M eFer.

I"m not happy so I'm selling.  Of course you want me to keep them so I don't tank your investment.  Usually when people say "if you are not happy then GTFO".  Funny you didn't say that.  Seems you would be a bagholder if I got out at current prices.  You are SOOOO obvious!

Thanks for being transparent.  This is great for IFC.  It reports to the community where everyone's pain points are.  Seems your pain points are at current prices.  My pain point would be at... oh... about... .00000001.  So as long are I get .00000002 I get a 200% profit. 

So there is that.

Doubling my money to me means.....

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Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: TECSHARE on March 12, 2014, 05:59:20 AM
Your point is we are poorly illustrated lawyers?

Only that you imitate poorly illustrated ambulance chasers.  Sorry if that was over your head.   I'm only making a statement when I should be asking why you would play off of the collapse of another cryptocoin by promoting your cryptocoin.  What it means to me is that you are not identifying with the merits of your coins but instead trying to collect people who lost money in DOGE to trust IFC instead.  I find that somewhat amoral.  And this is why I do not like the new IFC management.


First of all DOGE coin users constantly attack other coins, why do they get this pass from your moral high ground? Second, you aren't one to preach of morals considering your active slandering efforts. As far as the previous dev Fisheater goes, if he is so great, why did myself and others have to step in to clean up his mess? I have only been working with IFC for a few months, most of that time was spent fixing his neglect. I just got here and you are already condemning me. You clearly have a grudge here because your points make no sense especially if you review the coin's history.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 12, 2014, 09:16:54 PM
Oh wow you guys sure know how to hijack a thread!

Seriously dude how can you spout off such shit? "Yes since IFC was under new management it has failed time and time again." The new management structure has been in place for a little over 4 weeks, the lead has only had this coin for a few months and had to repeatedly fix the client as it was so poorly coded! I struggle to see how the new management has failed time and time again, when it's barely had time to get moving. Wow, then you start swinging your dick around about how many coins and how much money you have, narcissistic you think?, well seriously that's a stupid fkn thing to do! With all the people/exchanges etc targeted by hackers/org crime you just put a big bulls eye on your back.

Ok your going to sell your IFC, well do it and leave us alone to get on with running our coin!

BTW I called this latest DOGE pump!  ;)

MODS please shut this thread down!

Ty



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: wallstreetcoiner on March 12, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
do you imagine the general public ever using something called "Infinitecoin", especially when the whole point of crypto is to get around the fear that the federal banks are printing endless money into oblivion?

Exactly. This is one of the reasons that Goldcoin (GLD) has attracted the greatest living crypto developer. If you want to invest in something, invest in a coin with the best name and the best dev. This is the coin that will truly stand the test of time, in my opinion.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: zackclark70 on March 12, 2014, 10:42:10 PM
Oh wow you guys sure know how to hijack a thread!

Seriously dude how can you spout off such shit? "Yes since IFC was under new management it has failed time and time again." The new management structure has been in place for a little over 4 weeks, the lead has only had this coin for a few months and had to repeatedly fix the client as it was so poorly coded! I struggle to see how the new management has failed time and time again, when it's barely had time to get moving. Wow, then you start swinging your dick around about how many coins and how much money you have, narcissistic you think?, well seriously that's a stupid fkn thing to do! With all the people/exchanges etc targeted by hackers/org crime you just put a big bulls eye on your back.

Ok your going to sell your IFC, well do it and leave us alone to get on with running our coin!

BTW I called this latest DOGE pump!  ;)

MODS please shut this thread down!

Ty



according to this IFC has been under new management since December > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=356065.0


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: jrretirement on March 13, 2014, 02:49:51 AM
Oh wow you guys sure know how to hijack a thread!

Seriously dude how can you spout off such shit? "Yes since IFC was under new management it has failed time and time again." The new management structure has been in place for a little over 4 weeks, the lead has only had this coin for a few months and had to repeatedly fix the client as it was so poorly coded! I struggle to see how the new management has failed time and time again, when it's barely had time to get moving. Wow, then you start swinging your dick around about how many coins and how much money you have, narcissistic you think?, well seriously that's a stupid fkn thing to do! With all the people/exchanges etc targeted by hackers/org crime you just put a big bulls eye on your back.

Ok your going to sell your IFC, well do it and leave us alone to get on with running our coin!

BTW I called this latest DOGE pump!  ;)

MODS please shut this thread down!

Ty



according to this IFC has been under new management since December > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=356065.0
Clearly you are incapable of comprehending what is written! I'll walk you through it! Read what is written again and you'll see it clearly states the new lead began a few months ago, December, aka new management. But the new management structure has only been in place for a little over 4 weeks!



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: zackclark70 on March 13, 2014, 03:09:54 AM
Oh wow you guys sure know how to hijack a thread!

Seriously dude how can you spout off such shit? "Yes since IFC was under new management it has failed time and time again." The new management structure has been in place for a little over 4 weeks, the lead has only had this coin for a few months and had to repeatedly fix the client as it was so poorly coded! I struggle to see how the new management has failed time and time again, when it's barely had time to get moving. Wow, then you start swinging your dick around about how many coins and how much money you have, narcissistic you think?, well seriously that's a stupid fkn thing to do! With all the people/exchanges etc targeted by hackers/org crime you just put a big bulls eye on your back.

Ok your going to sell your IFC, well do it and leave us alone to get on with running our coin!

BTW I called this latest DOGE pump!  ;)

MODS please shut this thread down!

Ty



according to this IFC has been under new management since December > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=356065.0
Clearly you are incapable of comprehending what is written! I'll walk you through it! Read what is written again and you'll see it clearly states the new lead began a few months ago, December, aka new management. But the new management structure has only been in place for a little over 4 weeks!



so it took nearly 3 months to get the new management structure in place and you don't count that as a bad thing 


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: blade007 on March 13, 2014, 03:44:04 AM
according to this IFC has been under new management since December > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=356065.0
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Clearly you are incapable of comprehending what is written! I'll walk you through it! Read what is written again and you'll see it clearly states the new lead began a few months ago, December, aka new management. But the new management structure has only been in place for a little over 4 weeks!


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so it took nearly 3 months to get the new management structure in place and you don't count that as a bad thing  

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We from what I read at that post, I see Fisheater giving the reigns to Tecshare and then the first talk about infrastructure at the end of January. I am not a part of the dev team but I am a member of infinitecointalk.org and it was only a few weeks ago they mentioned anything about a full team taking care of this coin. So the end of January to now, 4-6 weeks in not 3 month.
You have to remember that with so many moving parts everyone has to be on the same page for things to get moving and they seem to be doing this. I like that they are not trying to win a race or force this coin to rise too rapidly but it has sustained a organic growth over the last few months.
When I bought in this coin was 1.1e-07 and only it has risen steadly over the last 5 months. Were there some pumps and dumps? Absolutely, happens to all coins but not the kind of levels seen with other coins and it quickly bounced back.
As to anyone looking to add it to their portfolio, this is a good price to still get it at but do your research. Don't rely on what this one said or didn't say. Join the forums there and see for yourself.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: TECSHARE on March 13, 2014, 08:58:50 AM
so it took nearly 3 months to get the new management structure in place and you don't count that as a bad thing 

Please, tell me how successful your own attempt at managing Infinitecoin was. I would love to hear that story of massive failure and internal bickering again.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: Snail2 on March 13, 2014, 09:53:21 AM
Personally I like IFC, but to be frank it's been one of the biggest pump and dump coin in CC history. So condemning DOGE for doing the same...  ::)


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: zackclark70 on March 14, 2014, 02:43:15 PM
so it took nearly 3 months to get the new management structure in place and you don't count that as a bad thing 

Please, tell me how successful your own attempt at managing Infinitecoin was. I would love to hear that story of massive failure and internal bickering again.

I never managed IFC the project was totally outside the dev team o it totally irrelevant !



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: master-P on March 14, 2014, 03:04:46 PM
Neither IFC nor DOGE will have any long-term value. Both are a poor investment.



Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: ladi4ever on March 14, 2014, 06:52:25 PM
InfiniteCoin is dying, any coin that is above 2 Billion I would not invest, and they have been for a wile in the market but no success, I would look at the new coins see what they have to offer, low difficulty low price, I'm waiting for this New coin to come out EuropaCoin.org. on sunday I hope and I can grab some coins with CPU, that would be awesome not investing a fortune on Rigs, cards cloud hashing which they are making money not us.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: yaboymarvo on March 14, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Neither IFC nor DOGE will have any long-term value. Both are a poor investment.


Solid facts you got there...


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 14, 2014, 08:59:24 PM
Personally I like IFC, but to be frank it's been one of the biggest pump and dump coin in CC history. So condemning DOGE for doing the same...  ::)

No that is not true.  IFC was an excellent experiment in cryptocoins.  It was an interesting set of parameters that hadn't been tried.  I expected that network hashrate would dry up within a year.  You can go through my post history back to April through July to see.  I anticipated a price increase from increased scarcity but there were no measures put in place to handle the upcoming hashrate decline.

There were a few adjustments to the transaction fees but nothing that would help support mining.  As a result the hashrate is down.  With fewer miners you have fewer participants in the coin which means you have fewer promoters which means that your market remains small and you have to forcefully market the coin instead of organically growing it.  DOGE's hashrate grew in size and its popularity increased with it.  It wasn't a small subset of promoters but a large group where many small collectives independently provided promotion along with the core group.  That is real marketing.  Core group guides marketing and the smaller groups do their own thing.

Again, IFC is not bad.  I'm fond of it.  I made a decent profit.  But it needs to solve a few issues that keeps it from going to the next tier of coins.

1.  Incentivize miners again.  Bring back your core group of supporters.
2.  Reduce shameless promotion/marketing for a while.  Have a quiet period.  Only report facts.  Wallet update, algorithm updates, added feature.  This will build a strong collective group of supporters that are interested enough to invest time to monitor the progress.  They will be some of your strongest supporters in the future.  Incentivize their early reinvestment and risk.
3.  Let IFC promotion grow organically at first.  Let your supporters start spreading the word.  People love rumors/tips/insider info.  This incentivizes your early adopters more and builds another level of supporters, the friends and family plan.
4.  Promote the coin only when it has peaked in organic growth with a road map for new feature deployment days.  This fuels trading activity, especially if the new feature incentivized buyers before it is deployed.
5.  Make sure what you build has staying power and keeps incentivizing long term adopters. 

It is sad but true.  Value is built on the backs of previous labor unless it is fiat (then it steals from the future laborers).  To grow value in an inflationary currency (anything that added rewards) you need to increase value faster that it is being lost through creation.  If people value IFC then they will store some of it.  If they are rewarded in storing that value through price appreciation then they will store more.

Good luck developers.  I'll be watching.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: rikkejohn on March 14, 2014, 09:51:17 PM
Personally I like IFC, but to be frank it's been one of the biggest pump and dump coin in CC history. So condemning DOGE for doing the same...  ::)

No that is not true.  IFC was an excellent experiment in cryptocoins.  It was an interesting set of parameters that hadn't been tried.  I expected that network hashrate would dry up within a year.  You can go through my post history back to April through July to see.  I anticipated a price increase from increased scarcity but there were no measures put in place to handle the upcoming hashrate decline.



Well it is true, it went from a dead coin when it was switched over from BTC/IFC to LTC/IFC to a raging bull and back down to the depths,  with quite a few pumps and dumps in between. I watched after it was dumped from its first high. Someone patiently began filling in buy orders for 1 LTC at regular intervals all the way back up to near where it had been. If someone sold to him, he carried on higher and higher. Then he filled the gaps. It got dumped again within days.

I agree that it was an excellent experiment with an interesting set of parameters. Historically speaking, I would say it is important and has been hugely influential.

Now it is kind of retro in a funny way.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: anderl on March 14, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
Personally I like IFC, but to be frank it's been one of the biggest pump and dump coin in CC history. So condemning DOGE for doing the same...  ::)

No that is not true.  IFC was an excellent experiment in cryptocoins.  It was an interesting set of parameters that hadn't been tried.  I expected that network hashrate would dry up within a year.  You can go through my post history back to April through July to see.  I anticipated a price increase from increased scarcity but there were no measures put in place to handle the upcoming hashrate decline.



Well it is true, it went from a dead coin when it was switched over from BTC/IFC to LTC/IFC to a raging bull and back down to the depths,  with quite a few pumps and dumps in between. I watched after it was dumped from its first high. Someone patiently began filling in buy orders for 1 LTC at regular intervals all the way back up to near where it had been. If someone sold to him, he carried on higher and higher. Then he filled the gaps. It got dumped again within days.

I agree that it was an excellent experiment with an interesting set of parameters. Historically speaking, I would say it is important and has been hugely influential.

Now it is kind of retro in a funny way.

as hipsters prove, retro will be cool one day.  So maybe in a decade or two?  But in crypto terms that may be 18 to 36 months. ;P


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: galbros on March 15, 2014, 12:41:19 AM
I think doge's pattern is not really reflective of a straight pump and crash pattern like we see with so many altcoins.  Doge started trading around 50 satoshi and remained there for awhile, drifting a bit lower.  Then it took off, probably because of the infamous wolong pump.  However, it has stayed way higher than it was during its early period.  It may still crash, IMO there are just too many damn coins, and no cap, but I don't think it's collapsed, at least not yet.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: coinits on March 17, 2014, 03:18:04 PM
sooo, how many IFC do you hold really?

8 billion

why?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: coinits on March 17, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
Neither IFC nor DOGE will have any long-term value. Both are a poor investment.



Says the guy that mines Flappycoin!


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: master-P on March 17, 2014, 04:18:25 PM
Does infinitecoin really have infinite coins?


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: ladi4ever on May 07, 2014, 03:28:18 PM
DOGE is a joke / scam coin and has been from day one. Anyone whose been around a while knows; some of it's Devs are far from trustworthy guys!

Ever since Wolong stopped his single handed inflation the DOGE price has been bleeding, with the charts showing a clear nose dive beyond the current market depreciation.
Don't take my word for it, the facts have been available a while. http://www.dailydot.com/business/wolong-dogecoin-market-control-trader-bitcoin/

DOGE is an perfect example of a pump and dump hype machine in action, making those on the inside rich, leaving the less informed out of pocket hanging on with blind hope!

The damage this kind of coin does to the crypto market/movement is extremely high and it has lead to an abundance of clones that are using these same hype methods to fleece new and unsuspecting investors of their money!

The crypto movement is a better form of money, a currency that enables true freedom from the powers that be; it is these ideals that IMO drove the early adapters and the majority of investors!

Bitcoin and litecoin both have these good qualities but are fast being priced out of the market, the pre-mine and centralized currencies defeat the purpose of the crypto movement and therefore IMO are a waste of time, they will not make you wealthy as the centralized nature doesn't ensure they will not make more coins and depreciate your investments or heavily regulate it in the least. And who is really in charge of these?

That only leaves a couple left to invest in, the only top 20 coin that has the volume for the global community and is still cheaply available is Infinitecoin IFC. IFC also subscribes to the true crypto movement ideals!

This is just my educated opinion, so keep your replies on topic and not personal please!



Does anyone know's how which coin wallet is sending spyware and installing on the computer, i honestly think is Dogecoin..


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: ltcifc on May 12, 2014, 07:46:08 PM
Infinitecoin in the news.


Title: Re: DOGE COLLAPSING - Invest in a coin with a real future INFINITECOIN
Post by: c1010010 on July 02, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
Some real activity happening in the BTER IFC/LTC pair recently.

Seems like the spring is winding up again... ready for a real bounce!

https://i.imgur.com/6liJIDk.png