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Title: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Danda23 on February 10, 2019, 05:24:24 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Irvinn on February 10, 2019, 09:16:52 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Yes, we have been talking about this on the forum for a long time. We consider KYC checking for bounty hunters to be illegal because we are not an investor in ICO projects, but if it is carried out, it should be done only when joining the ICO signature campaign or other ICO bounty programs. Since there is no single form of KYC verification and each ICO team comes up with making their own forms and sometimes requires very specific information or copies of documents, we should see whether we can provide such information or copies of documents and if not, do not start work and leave this ICO project . Personally, I do not join now the projects of ICO, which do not directly say that they will not have KYC checks.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: bitcoin31 on February 10, 2019, 09:24:12 PM
That is right Im agree with you better to pass the KYC before to join the bounty campaign. I hope also as a investor better they did not implement a KYC to the investor of the Project or the ICO because we want to secured our Identity but if you are hunters you don't have choice and submit kyc to avoid cheating or what.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Vispilio on February 10, 2019, 09:25:25 PM
Even more important than KYC requirements, which is understandable to a certain extent, the bounty hunter community should have some

sort of a protection against project owners who want to abuse them. Right now the current perception is that most of bounty hunters are

3rd world country residents who can't even communicate in decent English, so many project owners have an agenda to exploit them, thinking

that bounty hunters would have little legal recourse against them, this has to change for the bounty system to thrive.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: khufuking on February 10, 2019, 09:30:22 PM
I totally agree with you that KYC should be required and asked for before the work starts not after it especially when project owners and bounty manager know well that most Bountyhunter refuses to do KYC.

As I said many times before KYC for Bountyhunters is a must to avoid cheating and multi accounts farming but KYC for Bountyhunters should be different and not the same for investors, they need to introduce a new thing something like basic KYC which only require a first a fully blurred ID that has image and first name only appearing, I think that more than enough to avoid cheating.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: susila_bai on February 10, 2019, 09:36:15 PM
I totally agree with you that KYC should be required and asked for before the work starts not after it especially when project owners and bounty manager know well that most Bountyhunter refuses to do KYC.

As I said many times before KYC for Bountyhunters is a must to avoid cheating and multi accounts farming but KYC for Bountyhunters should be different and not the same for investors, they need to introduce a new thing something like basic KYC which only require a first a fully blurred ID that has image and first name only appearing, I think that more than enough to avoid cheating.

Even with this type of ID  can also be forged, so it is very bad idea. But before getting involved in any bounty if you are asking KYC then it should be asked when joining it, this idea is good so that genuine bounty hunters will be able to clear KYC and then start bounty work so that they should be getting problem in the last asking kyc.

KYC is the must to avoid the fraud by the bounty hunters using multi account but asking KYC before enrolling any bounty campaign is a good idea.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: masterzino on February 10, 2019, 09:44:19 PM
My problem with KYC on ICOs is that I don't know where and who exactly is getting my personal data.

About exchanges, I get it to some point. But to give my personal data to random people just to invest in a project or being part of the bounty, thank you but never!


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Babbylily1112 on February 10, 2019, 10:01:43 PM
That should be the best thing to do before the onset of any campaigns but most at times,the developers wants to play a fast one on bounty hunters


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: miropp on February 10, 2019, 10:10:49 PM
I, too, think that KYC need to introduce in the early bounty. First of all, it will immediately eliminate people who are not ready to pass it. Also it can be a definite guarantee that those who passed the KYC receive their reward. Otherwise, it is sometimes very frustrating when bounty hunter has done a lot of work, and at the end of the company learns that his KYC is not approved.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: greenlanternlight01 on February 10, 2019, 10:17:29 PM
I agree with you. I'm not doing bounties but if it's required than you should do it first. I guess it's because of time and money that the projects don't do it at the start of the bounty. That's because when the bounty starts the project is in the first days and it could be an important investment from the team to provide KYC to all the bounty hunters.

I don't know if this can be done, but perhaps the bounty manager can provide provide the KYC


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: passwordnow on February 10, 2019, 10:21:50 PM
Suggest this to one popular bounty manager and it shall be adopted by others too. Most of the project now wouldn't care that much about bounty hunters, they will pay you with their tokens with the help you give for advertising their project. KYC is mandatory for them to lessen problems on their end for verifying their participants. And you have a choice not to join those bounties that implements KYC. AFAIK there are still some bounties that doesn't require it.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ultimist on February 10, 2019, 10:22:47 PM
Even if KYC will not be held at the beginning of the company, it is necessary that the project team at least warned about it in advance. If KYC is announced at the end, without warning, it may lead to the idea that with project is something wrong and this way the team can reset the extra participants.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Teraboy on February 10, 2019, 10:41:04 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
That's indeed, look at the fact that so many companies have changed the agreement at the middle of the campaign and they didn't even give a time to the bounty participants. Some icos were applying KYC verification disappear after that and all of KYC of hunters have stolen.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: 5ensei on February 10, 2019, 10:47:58 PM
If KYC is required it should be at the beginning. There have many scams where they fail the bounty hunters KYC and refuse to pay them as they failed the test and this is after the work has been completed.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: powerman24 on February 10, 2019, 10:51:49 PM
I agree that KYC should be prior to the bounty starts. Some projects decides for KYC after the bounty has finished and that is not fair. Those  projects are not transparent and trustful changing the rules at the end. Red flag for me.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Oasisman on February 10, 2019, 11:18:51 PM
Some of the most common reasons why they ask for KYC after the bounty ended are; If they ask for KYC before the bounty starts, it will consume too much time for them to process everything before they can start advertising their product or company. This is also one way of abusing the bounty hunters with the surprise KYC at the end, well, not everyone wants to risk giving out their essential to someone over the internet.
I agree with, why do bounty hunters need to be kyc verified when in the first place they are not customers, they are part of the team to the product they advertised.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: norachuks on February 10, 2019, 11:34:08 PM
I totally agree with you on this. Bounty hunters are not  customer to do kyc and if they must it do,  it  should be it before the campaign and not after. then the people that pass will dothe campaing


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: hirngespenst on February 10, 2019, 11:37:25 PM
Yes, Amazix bounty management team is doing this, this is a good idea! If you are able to verify your NID then verify first and then you can start hunting. This is the real rules, but some bounty projects ask passport KYC after the end of bounty campaign where most of the hunters don't have a passport, so, we should ask every bounty manager to change the KYC procedure by asking the project owners.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Osayo on February 10, 2019, 11:40:05 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I will surely agree with your suggestions. It is highly dubious for the KYC to be introduced at the completion of the bounty campaign after about 4 months and if a participant fails, he will be forced to forfeit his tokens after labouring for so long.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: UAE Seasider on February 10, 2019, 11:47:24 PM
I think the suggestion for taking the KYC before starting the campaign is the right way to go, that way people who do not wish to hand over their personal details are not wasting weeks or months of time working on a campaign. My other suggestion for those forced into doing a KYC is to use a low value form of ID such as a driving licence.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Sri rahayu on February 11, 2019, 03:41:40 AM
This is indeed the right way so we can continue what steps we must take after giving our data, but in the form of a different format with investors, and that must be considered by the bounty manager.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: SwiggHeart on February 11, 2019, 03:45:41 AM
KYC is so risky for a bounty because if the project were failed, your identity can be used for other uses to enterprise the developer.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on February 11, 2019, 03:51:30 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I think some project already do that, they announce if people should do KYC first in their website and then can join bounty campaign. But it usually for project that consist of market or something that related to payment.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Golftech on February 11, 2019, 03:53:57 AM
Good idea, and bounty managers need to accept only those who are willing to take part and send the requirements that needed, both will not waste time as bounty hunters who didn't want to take part will move on and try to work other campaign while the managers will only pick and pay those who continue and work for them, after the ico was ended there's no additional requirements to add but to simply pay those participants who contribute and did their part to advertise the project.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: labilaab on February 12, 2019, 08:48:52 AM
We can’t force the campaign manager or the founder of the project if they want a KYC before conducting a bounty campaign. KYC helps also in eliminating this alt accounts keep on abusing the forum.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Cyptobonds1 on February 12, 2019, 04:04:42 PM
That is just the best way, but you barely see them doing it that way because only few people will participate and if they want more people they will have to accept any form of identity unlike when required for at the end of a campaign where you will have to use your passport.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: trudovik on February 13, 2019, 04:11:52 PM
If you are talking about using KYC at all, then I don’t think it’s necessary to change something. There are no guarantees that people will respond positively to this process in spite of the changes. The question of data storage.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Sundaey on February 13, 2019, 04:20:18 PM
Yes. That's actually the best way to pass a kyc and I see that some projects are already doing that recently not unlike the suddenly announced ones at the closing end of the bounty, not knowing if some people really have what it takes to pass the kyc.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on February 13, 2019, 04:28:46 PM
KYC is so risky for a bounty because if the project were failed, your identity can be used for other uses to enterprise the developer.
That is why it is highly recommended to choose only high quality project which usually considered as legit.
Most of the time people are getting lured with the huge reward when in reality the project exist only to cater people's data.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: zikabra on February 13, 2019, 04:37:30 PM
Bounties should be kyc free. I don't know why is important to collect personal data from bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are not investors neither they invest money which is the main reason why we have kyc, to see from where is money coming from. Receiving worthless tokens which are not money, i don't think kyc is needed here.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: investtra on February 13, 2019, 04:42:52 PM
Some Bounty projects do look annoying because they change the rules at will. When at the beginning of the campaign they said that there was no KYC. But after the project was completed and the participants were told to complete KYC. And this is certainly very disappointing because KYC should be announced at the start of the campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: dcomomal on February 13, 2019, 08:07:18 PM
I agree that it would be nice if the team members could announce a KYC before the start of any bounty programme. But in each bounty you take part in, you are accepting the rules and it is stated that teams can change the rules whenever they want to.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: frost_wind on February 13, 2019, 08:14:20 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Here on the forum it has been discussed many times already, but it has not brought any results. Each project does what it wants, because there are no generally accepted rules for bountyhunters. If our community is not able to work out and defend such rules that would suit us, then we will simply obey the rules that are imposed on us by our employers


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Thanasis on February 13, 2019, 08:18:10 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Agree with it,so how many of the bounty hunters are ready to stop participating on the bounties who don't have clear rule about KYC at the time of joining on the bounty campaign?


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Msworld83 on February 13, 2019, 08:23:01 PM
I don't even like the kyc of a thing cos the crypto is a decentralized technology which need to authority from anyone before it can get operated or do it work, I see kyc announcement after bounty end as a way to scam hunters and nothing more cos if it were stated at start many would have withdraw and those who can submit required details will stay.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: GunsLair on February 13, 2019, 08:27:33 PM
I increasingly encounter projects that immediately indicate at the beginning of a campaign whether a KYC verification is required or not. And I try to participate in such projects. I'm also one of those who consider KYC as optional for hunters. But, unfortunately, today are the such rules.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Marvell1 on February 13, 2019, 09:13:27 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

I'm fully agree with you. It's the best and the only one fair decision bounty campaigns can make. All the time when I face with KYC request for bounty hunters after the campaign I go on a rampage. Why the heck they don't tell it before the campaign? F*cking bastards >:(


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Rockkey on February 13, 2019, 09:43:32 PM
I think that you are saying quite reasonable things, it would naturally be much more logical if the verification procedure were to take place before the bounty process begins, however many projects deliberately leave it on the last day - in order to deceive as many people as possible.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Emilyp on February 13, 2019, 10:30:09 PM
It's a great idea starting kyc before or at the onset of the bounty because in many cases people fail to pass kyc because of the documents required and they end up losing the pay for the whole work they put in.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: nelson4lov on February 13, 2019, 10:34:41 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

That would be a welcome development. With an ever changing space like Crypto especially since financial refulators is are looking to getting involved with Crypto, such development would be welcome by ~ almost all Crypto users who take part in bounty programs. No one is saying there shouldn't be KYC but It should be done before the start of a campaign so one knows his or her stance before taking part in a campaign. Enough said. Nice suggestion :)


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: gowobonyok on February 17, 2019, 12:14:45 AM
I am of the opinion that the process of cyclic is easier. if Kyc aims to avoid multiple accounts, then the Kyc process should be as long as it is done only by one account / one person.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Saisher on February 17, 2019, 12:27:31 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

That should always be the case, these bounty managers are not acting professionally they should first qualify their workers before admitting them they also start as bounty workers so they know how it feels to work for several months without getting paid.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Globen on February 17, 2019, 01:03:22 AM
I think i like this idea, if only the bounty managers would agree to passing kyc first before joining the bounty campaign but i doubt they would want to do it. It will really make those bounty hunters that passed the kyc to put more effort in the bounty knowing that they will be paid their full reward unlike when you would do kyc at the end of the bounty and you are not sure you will pass.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: libert19 on February 17, 2019, 04:09:06 AM
Good idea, or you could ask bounty manager in advance, if there will be kyc to get paid or not. If they first say no and later require it then it's shame on them.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Yoo on February 17, 2019, 04:47:42 AM
Yeah, I think this is a good idea. Because this can make it easier for bounty hunters and also easier for the project. KYC at the beginning of the campaign can reduce multiple accounts and bounty hunter can know from the start if the KYC is accepted or rejected. Yeah I think this is very good if applied to projects that require a bounty hunter to do KYC. And I have found a campaign like this, namely Faba invest https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095858.0


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: wedosgibas on February 17, 2019, 04:55:48 AM
Yes, agree with you, so that there are not many participants who oppose and are in vain for their work, if they fail to do KYC.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: BUK2016 on February 17, 2019, 04:57:14 AM
There has been many replies concerning the change of KYC after the campaign might have been started or sometime when the campaign has gone half on it way to finishes. Sometime rules which are not written at the initial time will surface before the end of the campaign, this pattern is not encouraging at all as Bounty Hunters find them difficult to cope with.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ararbermas on February 17, 2019, 05:06:41 AM
My problem with KYC on ICOs is that I don't know where and who exactly is getting my personal data.

About exchanges, I get it to some point. But to give my personal data to random people just to invest in a project or being part of the bounty, thank you but never!
that's the reason why more bounty hunter against on that KYC stuff when joining in project 'cause it's not provably fair in the first place, which is because mostly nowadays turn always to scam and always disappear without knowing. it seems like where just putting our selves into risk situation because of that . 


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: debby070 on February 17, 2019, 05:23:36 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

I guess they are just securing their tokens for real bounty hunters. And they didn't ask much just our email and telegram account I guess, which is we can provide easily so let them be.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Question123 on February 17, 2019, 05:33:11 AM
Depends on the bounty manager and the project if they implement that because for sure it is big help to prevent any problems and issue.
Chaging pattern of KYC is needed good or equal rights for the partipants and the team of the project so they will be benfits on that and no can harm from any changing. They need to analyze what is the effects on this and what is good of having that.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Metall303 on February 17, 2019, 05:42:10 AM
Yes, agree with you, so that there are not many participants who oppose and are in vain for their work, if they fail to do KYC.
you do not understand that the point is not that people cannot undergo this procedure, but that it is very dangerous. Your data can be sold in the darknet and, banned sites can be registered on your documents. And now think do you really wanna pass this KYC?


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: pawanjain on February 17, 2019, 06:06:35 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Yes, it is definitely an issue for bounty hunters since what most ICOs do is that they announce the bounty campaign without any information or announcements of the KYC.
After the bounty campaign is completed and when the time comes for paying the rewards to the bounty participants the ICO team announces that they will have to undergo a KYC process to claim the bounty rewards.
While most participants don't do the KYC and hence loose the rewards others try to claim but get stuck somewhere between. Some don't get qualified under the KYC process and eventually loose the rewards.
This way the ICO team cheats their bounty participants. They can announce the need of a KYC process earlier so that the bounty participants can decide whether or not to participate in the campaign or not.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: FUD Expert on February 17, 2019, 06:18:34 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?


Yeah, we ask them many times in many months and they clearly said no but it's always a big surprise in the end because they want KYC. I think a lot of participants had already accepted it even they don't like the idea of risking their documents because they want their rewards to be given.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: senin on February 17, 2019, 06:24:11 AM
Yeah, I think this is a good idea. Because this can make it easier for bounty hunters and also easier for the project. KYC at the beginning of the campaign can reduce multiple accounts and bounty hunter can know from the start if the KYC is accepted or rejected. Yeah I think this is very good if applied to projects that require a bounty hunter to do KYC. And I have found a campaign like this, namely Faba invest https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095858.0
I went to the campaign ICO Faba invest. There, really, on the first page before joining the campaign, the bounty explains that it will be necessary to pass the KYC test and immediately provide the opportunity to pass it. However, they require the provision of proof of residence at the place of registration - a document on the payment of utilities or an extract from the bank, but I cannot provide these documents, since I do not live at the place of my registration now. If I were required to undergo such a check at the end of the ICO, it would mean that I would simply be used for free. In this case, I can simply not join such a campaign.
I believe that the KYC check on bounty hunters is illegal, but if it is carried out, it should only be carried out when joining this campaign. Otherwise, it is just one form of fraud.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: tranquangvinh on February 17, 2019, 06:59:37 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I totally agree with you, if the projects require bounty hunters to perform KYC, it should be done at the beginning, if the bounty hunters don't pass, they will have more choices. Some projects are trying not to allocate tokens to the bounty hunters in such ways


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ucok456 on February 17, 2019, 07:25:07 AM
I think this is a good thing for some bounty hunters. Because some bounty hunter do their jobs honestly while some other bounty hunters do their jobs fraudulently (multiple accounts). So I think the KYC system is very good for preventing fraud from bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: zero714309 on February 17, 2019, 07:37:28 AM
But almost all of project change their rules in the end of bounty. This really confused bounty hunter what next will they do. Im ever join bounty with kyc system in the end but failed the kyc with no valid info what wrong with my data information. Your advice really true and  good but i dont think it will used all of bounty manager or ICO team. This reality sometimes make our work useless. The bounty end and distribution start soon but our kyc rejected. That mean we not get the reward.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Pffrt on February 17, 2019, 07:46:47 AM
Most bounty managers mentioned the KYC requirements before the bounty starts. I thank them. There is no need of KYC for bounty hunter, I think. Anyway, it would be better if some rules were forced for the ICO.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: rachman mahesa on February 17, 2019, 07:48:45 AM
Maybe it's a good suggestion, when you want to start, of course, do KYC first. But if it is applied, it might take a long time. Because projects must work quickly to promote their projects. If you have to do the Kyc first, it might be very long. Usually if the bounty hunter has to use KYC, it will certainly be a long time ago and it will not be a failure for KYC.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Nurma.A on February 17, 2019, 07:55:07 AM
I agree with your method. It's useless if we work on the campaign, but we don't know whether our KYC is accepted or not. The team or bounty manager should provide information to us about our KYC status. If accepted, we will work on the bounty. But if not, we can look for another bounty.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: agusiska on February 17, 2019, 07:58:53 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

im agree, if some bounty program want to kyc their participant, it must be at the start of the program, not after the program finished.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: soramon on February 17, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Well im agree with your opinion. If there is KYC requirment for bounty hunters it should in the beginning of bounty. So there is no bounty hunter will suffer if they not pay from project. It also reduce the participant of bounties. Only serious bounty hunters will acceptable and work hard for his/her reward.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: maman567 on February 17, 2019, 09:09:10 AM
Best solution how to know many people use multi account for joining bounty or airdrop project, hope almost of ICO will use KYC procedure for keep away their project from bounty campaign participants use multi account at the future.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: NavI_027 on February 17, 2019, 09:12:32 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.
The term "customer" was used to generally represent all the people who used their coin. Since the bounty hunters work to advertise them for exchange of their coin, then technically speaking, they are customers also :).

Anyway, if I will based to what've you've said then I may say that it sucks simply because it is not unnecessary somehow because of knowing the fact that bounty hunters are only up to pumping and dumping and not totally using the actual platform. Well, I'm not yet fully knowledgeable regarding this issue because I don't have any experience joining bounty campaigns 'til now (actually, I refused to) so who am I to speak ;D. That was just my perception.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: makerst on February 17, 2019, 03:08:09 PM
And what exactly is proposed to change, I did not understand. I see that today, in general, the KYC procedure does not work at all. I can explain why, because many people do not use their real documents.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Fumzy on February 17, 2019, 03:19:18 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

This is not really a bad idea, at least this way, a hunter can choose whether or not to participate. Instead of giving us kyc headaches half way through the end of the bounty


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: gantez on February 17, 2019, 03:21:08 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

If I should add my contribution on this, since bounty hunters are not customers as we know it already, then kyc should be left for when hunters want the coins to their wallet. That is at the end of the bounty. This will make the hunters to be genuine in the information they want to provide because they know they could forfeit it if they are not honest but the risk is that, the icos and the cm need to also be honest.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Omela44 on February 17, 2019, 03:22:13 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I think your idea is really good. So it should always run when kyc is required. This is the only way bounty hunters can be sure that they will be paid, according to the bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: jozymens7 on February 17, 2019, 09:44:12 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

I really agree with this process because investors undergo kyc before the are asked to invest but why do they allow us to finish with promotional activities.
Even if they don't want cheaters, it can be made in way like videos calling instead of producing documents like passport and drivers' license.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: H1N1 on February 18, 2019, 01:27:54 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Yeah,  bounty hunters is their supporters, not their costumers. Maybe it is wrong to call it 'Know your customers'.
It should be 'Know your holders', so they can know all of their token holders.
If hunters want to stay anonymous, i think they can search for another campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: fvb on February 18, 2019, 01:39:32 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I completely agree.  Bounty companies change the rules at their discretion.  Although KYC should be initially, and not later when you have already spent your time at work.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: martabaktelor on February 18, 2019, 02:20:15 AM
I strongly agree with you that KYC must start from the beginning of the campaign. And if they don't pass KYC they certainly can't take part in the campaign. But so far what has happened is that a lot of KYC is done at the end of the ICO. And those who don't pass don't get tokens, so the work so far has only been in vain.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ottogary on February 18, 2019, 08:46:00 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I think that would be bad thing to perform KCY before we've done a project, cause it could be used by someone to collect as much personal data as possible  for their own benefit.
Cause i think the idea why bounty hunter doesn't like doing a kyc is that they had to provide their personal data to get what they deserve.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: voltesbit777 on February 18, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?


You have a point in that things dudes. Although, there are some bounty campaigns they already announced if there is a KYC for the bounty hunters, but sometimes there are campaigns after passing the KYC of the bounty hunters to get their rewards, in the end they also didn't claim their rewards, which is therefore they stole the information of their bounty participants. Of course, they will get disappointed and get mad in it.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: letyouearn on February 18, 2019, 10:24:42 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

That's fair enough, but usually there are so much mess in ICO plans and structure, that when they begin to talk about KYC procedure, it's too late. And nobody cares about bounty hunters as we know  :'(


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: rosezionjohn on February 18, 2019, 10:35:07 AM
So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

I do not agree to this. It is a very risky move. What happens if the ICO failed to raise the funds needed to move forward? What is going to happen to your personal information?

Another thing is that it also requires resources to verify participant thru KYC, teams usually prefer to spend their resources on marketing.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Script3d on February 18, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
It's might be better to join bounty with their tokens escrowed, it will give you a assurance that you will not get scammed, sometimes they will add KYC at the end of the campaign even it was stated before that there will be no KYC, i hope escrowed bounty will become a thing to gain bounty hunters trust.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: AzamNurWahid on February 18, 2019, 10:42:23 AM
some time ago I joined a bounty that required participants to do KYC, and in my opinion it was fine and I did see many participants who did not pass KYC but if they read well and followed each stage then I am sure it was very easy to pass KYC


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: siena23 on February 18, 2019, 11:09:36 AM
I don't think it should be like that, for me to say at the beginning that bounty participants need KYC, that is enough. But there are still those who are beginning to say that they don't need KYC but ultimately need KYC, I think that this is not fair. So many participants are angry because there are those who do not have an ID card or Passport.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Prettymie on February 18, 2019, 11:22:44 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
A bounty with a KYC requirement will eliminate those bounty hunters that having multiple accounts and thus, increase the reward of those legit participants. Anyway KYC nowadays is already a must. If you want to join on those bigger project then expect to prepare your documents for the KYC but be careful in choosing those many ICO's as we can't be sure about their safety of our documents.
I prefer to do my KYC after the bounty campaign when the project has successfully collected their funds to proceed with their next milestones. Which I think this is much advantage than doing in the start of the bounty as you might have some issues that will make you decide to leave the bounty and your KYC will be a waste.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Metall303 on February 18, 2019, 11:32:51 AM
I don't think it should be like that, for me to say at the beginning that bounty participants need KYC, that is enough. But there are still those who are beginning to say that they don't need KYC but ultimately need KYC, I think that this is not fair. So many participants are angry because there are those who do not have an ID card or Passport.
I personally oppose KYC because I know how my data can be used on the Internet. I learned a lot of material about how our data is using in the darknet. I would not be happy if I found out that some porn site domain is registered on my passport


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Bttzed03 on February 18, 2019, 11:45:06 AM
I support the idea of declaring KYC at the start of the campaign but I think it is a bad idea requiring participants to undergo KYC procedure even before the campaign starts.   


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Phonexy on February 18, 2019, 11:53:02 AM
This is what most bounty hunters fight against, they do not like the fact that KYC is announced after the conclusion of the bounty campaign and infact, it looks criminal to even enforce it because it wasn't stated before the start of the campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ycekezuv on February 18, 2019, 11:53:38 AM
I agree, it would be quite fair if they announced the KYC in advance and did not change the bounty rules throughout its entire period!


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ucheman on February 18, 2019, 11:55:08 AM
When KYC is announced at the beginning a bounty campaign, you would not heard my bounty hunter complaining about it or even saying anything negative about it, they just hate it when the rules are changed, nobody likes that.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Jating on February 18, 2019, 11:58:33 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

Yes, that's the sad part of enforcing KYC even to bounty hunters.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

This could be a good idea. Or if you're a bounty hunter you can ask right away if KYC is needed before joining. But for me, I really don't like KYC for hunters because I don't want to compromise my identify.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: eaLiTy on February 18, 2019, 12:05:51 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.
These situation happened because there were a lot of bounty hunters that were using multiple accounts and to counter that they came up with KYC, but the problem is that we saw many scam projects that came last year and they were simply collecting user data and nothing else, so it is a thin line on what to make use of the situation, i really would not share my details for any bounty what so ever as its very difficult to judge whether the project is legit or not.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on February 18, 2019, 12:10:26 PM
That is a good idea, especially for Bounty hunters. because if the thing is applied, that is, doing the kyc before the bounty, then it can make the bounty better and maintain its quality. kyc provides benefits for honest bounty participants and also for developers so that existing funds can be absorbed properly and on target.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: hell_slayer on February 18, 2019, 12:34:33 PM
I am definitely against kyc for bounty hunters, because I have already heard stories that after people went through it, they later found their documents on the black market. Companies that collect our personal data are not responsible for their confidentiality and until this problem is resolved, most bounty hunters will avoid kyc. In addition, I agree that the term kyc itself is not correct when applied to bounty hunters, since they are not buyers / customers. Rather, they are hired workers and other rules should be applied in this relationship.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: norachuks on February 18, 2019, 12:39:38 PM
I think it should be for investors alone and not for bounty hunters and if hunters must do it, it should be before the campaign and not after the campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: hellyah070 on February 18, 2019, 12:41:49 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

But other campaigns are utilizing their KYC procedures after the ICO or coin program was ended? Was that can be considered as a trap for bounty participants to hold their profits? I just think about that lately.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: levyashin on February 18, 2019, 12:45:30 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Most of the bounty, asking for a kyc to drop bounty budget. It is not because of the regulations just for malicious reasons. So if they do like this, they can't drop the bounty budget.

For instance, i did join a bounty some time ago, it was called desico. It was a 600k $ worth of budget. First they said no bounty because it is not a ico anymore it is sto and they can't give tokens. Later, because of the rage, they said they will give out bounties but only people who will do a kyc and not 600k $ 20k$ instead.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: taufik123 on February 18, 2019, 12:49:41 PM
When discussing KYC for bounty hunters, I think it's too early, because the average bounty doesn't use KYC when starting a bounty program.
If the project asking for KYC is guaranteed to be successful then there is no problem.
but the current project is not necessarily successful by applying KYC at the beginning of the bounty.
I agree more if it does not apply KYC for bounty hunters, or indeed if you have to use KYC, it can be done after the project is successful and the prize is distributed.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: likit123 on February 18, 2019, 01:02:39 PM
The problem with many projects is that at the final stage of the bounty, the team introduces KYC. Naturally, a bounty hunter who has done many months of work has nowhere to go and he sends his KYC. I think this is a fraud on the part of the team.
Cous must be declared from the very beginning and the rules of the campaign, in this respect, cannot be changed.
And the fact that the KYC template should be facilitated is 100%.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: shakesbear on February 18, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
I don't want to give my personal data to unknown people, and at such an early stage, before the bounty started, it is very difficult to understand the scam project or not.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: kaito. on February 18, 2019, 06:12:09 PM
So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.
i agree to that, the bounty i join right now already use that method so hunter who doesn't like to fill KYC can choose to not join.
project dev should come to an agreement first with BM about KYC for hunter at the time they want to hire BM to promote their project.
because if a project change their term and told hunter to fill KYC at the end of bounty then that mean project dev only want to increase their profit by decreasing people who will received thier token or worst case they just want to sell our information.
so we should ask first if we want to join bounty and made a screenshot of it as a proof.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: HappyCaptain on February 18, 2019, 07:21:58 PM
i agree with what the OP says, KYC should be discussed or announced at the start of a bounty program so every bounty hunters know whether they join or not on that particular campaign. requiring KYC after the bounty program ended is so unfair for bounty hunters because some of participants don't want to share their information or they can't pass the KYC process.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: dipeco on February 18, 2019, 09:06:26 PM
It is a great idea to pass the KYC before starting bounty programme. It would safe a lot of time for the team members and verified members will get much more rewards. But it makes no sense for projects because they can announce a KYC after bounty. They have already received effort and do not want to share so much tokens.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Chomsy on February 18, 2019, 09:37:13 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.


Hahahaha.. Honestly, I don't think many know the meaning of kyc. I mean, hunters are not customers for heaven's sake.

You are absolutely right. Let them come up with the KYC before the bounty starts. Some projects hide behind this in order not to pat hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ranly123 on February 18, 2019, 09:41:49 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

That's a good idea you have. Maybe if this will be passed to the devs then they might as well be using this kind ofethod. But as for the moment we as bounty Hunter shall abide by the rules of the devs regarding their security and of using KYC to avoid having multiple account on their bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: DevilSlayer on February 18, 2019, 10:02:09 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I do not really participate in KYC due to the hackers all over the cryptocurrency market. There are big possibilities that our identity will stole by others if we participated in KYC.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: wedosgibas on February 19, 2019, 04:20:56 AM
Yes, agree with you, so that there are not many participants who oppose and are in vain for their work, if they fail to do KYC.
you do not understand that the point is not that people cannot undergo this procedure, but that it is very dangerous. Your data can be sold in the darknet and, banned sites can be registered on your documents. And now think do you really wanna pass this KYC?

Yes, I understand the intent of the above section, I am against those who change the rules of the bounty campaign at the end, it is mandatory for KYC. And I won't do it at the beginning if the team isn't convincing.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Cemploon on February 19, 2019, 04:36:46 AM
I strongly agree with you that there must be a pattern of change in KYC. That's what you say. The Bounty project really wants to produce the best. Of course, KYC can be placed at the beginning of the campaign. So people can campaign because they have passed KYC. So the participants will not be disappointed at the end of the ICO because they cannot get tokens because they failed KYC.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: damsix on February 19, 2019, 05:38:30 AM
I had a bad experience in following the bounty for KYC and sadly it was done by my country, Indonesia.
If those of you in this forum know ICO LYFE, that is the related project.
At the beginning of the campaign it was not mentioned for KYC and when I wanted distribution it had to be KYC, bad!

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Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Henrobakkara on February 19, 2019, 05:58:55 AM
honestly, I really hate KYC for bounty participants and I always try to avoid the bounty that requires a "bounty hunter" to do KYC. even though it was done at the beginning of the campaign but I still didn't want to give my real data to people I didn't know


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: VadikZimnyayaRezina on February 19, 2019, 06:17:42 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Then you need to make a lighter version and as collateral. It will be like fighting fraudsters on their part, but who will fight projects that will want to deceive investors in this way.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: cewekimut on February 19, 2019, 06:34:18 AM
KYC indeed some people think that this is not necessary because we are not customers. And KYC is more appropriate for investors investing in ICO. I agree that this KYC was done at the beginning of Bounty and was more effective. But if there is at the end of the Bounty I think more people are disappointed because those who did not pass KYC did not get tokens.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: toydoll on February 19, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
I am generally against the KYC procedure for bounty hunters.But if this procedure is mandatory, then I fully agree with the author that it is necessary to talk about it in advance of the campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: graffix on February 19, 2019, 06:52:38 AM
yes. bounty hunting shouldn't do the KYC process. Projects use KYC process in bounty programmes to avoid cheating, using multi accounts and fake accounts. Some people use fake accounts to attract the audience and increase the friend/Followers amount. Some projects think it's not genuine move. Because of it, some bounty hunters are not able to claim their rewards after their works. If there is a KYC process for bounty hunters projects have to note it clearly and detailed.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: alberdina on February 19, 2019, 08:19:37 AM
KYC for Bounty is indeed a problem that until now has not fulfilled its good point. I personally will be very careful in participating in the Bounty project. And I prefer projects that don't use KYC and this will be easier. But still have to do research, so you can get a good project.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Squirrel Dearing on February 24, 2019, 06:44:40 PM
I think that's a good idea. First, it will help to get rid of scammers and prevent the use of multiple accounts in one campaign. And secondly, you will be sure that you will get your coins, and not wasted time. Now a lot of people introduce KYC after the end of the bounty campaign and I think this is wrong.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: yobo2020 on February 24, 2019, 06:48:25 PM
I believe kyc  is done in order to eradicate multiple account in  certain project, but the should be done at the beginning of a project not after the project so you can know if you can partake in the project .


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: whaawh on February 24, 2019, 06:58:29 PM
I believe kyc  is done in order to eradicate multiple account in  certain project, but the should be done at the beginning of a project not after the project so you can know if you can partake in the project .
in any case, the provision of personal data has its advantages and also z.i. There is a negative for users of cryptocurrency, as well as for participants of Bounty companies. Although, if we speak in essence, even several accounts can benefit a certain ico project of the company, but they will not give an opportunity to make a profit to one of the participants on the forum.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ailmand on February 24, 2019, 07:01:14 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

KYC should probably be announced on the beginning of the bounty not after. So that if ever a bounty hunter is against KYC, they will not join on the first place. Some bounties are implementing KYC after the bounty that is why most bounty hunters are not getting their bounty because they don't want to undergo the process.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: d_fitrie on February 24, 2019, 07:16:41 PM
Actually, KYC is not for bounty hunters and only for those who invest in the ICO, the obstacle is when the bounty ends then it is announced that it must be KYC for reasons to prevent multi accounts and not other ways of passing KYC to receive tokens


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ovcijisir on February 24, 2019, 07:21:01 PM
KYC indeed some people think that this is not necessary because we are not customers. And KYC is more appropriate for investors investing in ICO. I agree that this KYC was done at the beginning of Bounty and was more effective. But if there is at the end of the Bounty I think more people are disappointed because those who did not pass KYC did not get tokens.

The main problem is in projects that at first don't require KYC, but in the middle of campaign all of the sudden start requiring KYC to get the tokens.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: mullzerwar on February 25, 2019, 02:46:20 AM
For me, i'm disagree about doing KCY before the bounty campaign, that would be so much risky to do it. And i believe many bounty hunter will not like that. The best way would be just simply remove the requirement of KYC for bounty participant.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: jerrison on February 25, 2019, 03:08:38 AM
the kyc pattern most companies adopt are really critical and unreliable as the level of rejections or declinations are way too much even when the documents submitted are genuine and legit. the way and manner kyc is carried out should be more advanced and that will aid the entire kyc process speedily.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: tomboi on February 25, 2019, 03:10:48 AM
Yes, I agree that these bounty hunters are not customers as referred to in KYC. KYC does make it difficult for many bounty hunters. And the worst is when they do KYC and fail they don't get paid. Especially now that ICO projects that use KYC for bounty hunters also cannot succeed and coins also collapse.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: MI6 on February 25, 2019, 03:17:51 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I think each bounty is depends on their developer/ manager rules. We as bounty hunters can't force them to do that. If me i'd better follow what they rules, if must KYC in last, then i will KYC if i see it's project really good and worth.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Nivelir on February 25, 2019, 07:18:56 AM
I also thought about this topic for a long time, but I cannot say for sure that I cannot replace it, because today for any action there is a reaction that again baffles this process. Therefore, I do not see sense in this process.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: lavoncoin88 on February 25, 2019, 07:28:01 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

I have no issue for kyc these is just a prove that theres no cheating happening in your participation. So kyc is okay just concern is those bounties unexpectedly decide for participants to do kyc during campaign nearly end. I agree that kyc should be announced from the start of the campaign to make time to prepare.






Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: 97percent on February 25, 2019, 07:34:23 AM
KYC is needed to reduce fraud. And I think everything depends on everyone because if you are willing to KYC, you can join. But if you don't agree, you can look for other projects. And this KYC pattern must be changed and carried out at the beginning of the campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Elqui on February 25, 2019, 07:36:06 AM
I agree with that, i think we have to promote that every bounty hunters should pass kyc process to avoid scammers and spammers and to make it fair to every bounty hunters because some people are using so many accounts and some are fakes. They should have a different kyc for customers and for the bounty hunters too, because these two have a different needs in kyc process. But if they’re just scammer ICO , i think they should not waste peoples time in kyc’s


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: setialovers on February 25, 2019, 07:39:35 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I think each bounty is depends on their developer/ manager rules. We as bounty hunters can't force them to do that. If me i'd better follow what they rules, if must KYC in last, then i will KYC if i see it's project really good and worth.

Developers team or bounty manager must be have their own consideration. But passing KYC at start bounty is good for hunters because they can start work with enjoy when hunters can pass KYC


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Jannyh on February 28, 2019, 07:40:53 PM
I am totally I'm support of this.  If there must be kyc, then it should be at the start of the bounty, I really like this idea, just image a bounty I did, as distribution started, they started with those receiving small or few tokens but as it got close to those receiving higher number of tokens,kyc was introduced right in the middle of the distribution  and I am very sure some hunters will fail the kyc and their rewards and effort will just go into thin air.

There should be change of kyc pattern. Good one


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Micerker on February 28, 2019, 07:45:50 PM
A project started bounty requires KYC to completed before joining? It is not as high as you think if the project is fake and only to collect the user's personal information? I disagree with your thoughts about KYC before joining the bounty.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: SMOKEU on February 28, 2019, 09:58:22 PM
its true, if there is a KYC it should have stated before the bounty started.. if they decide to do kyc at the end then there is only one thing into my mind, they doesn't want to pay the bounty hunters  :-\


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: cryptjh on February 28, 2019, 10:16:32 PM
It would be nice if the Bitcoin forum made some clear rules about KYC, it should not be up the some random anonymous ICO project people to farm ID papers from bounty hunters.
If a KYC are needed then the KYC should always be done before the bounty work begins, just like the KYC are always done before investors send in money to buy tokens from the ICO's.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Huntler1993 on February 28, 2019, 10:50:34 PM
Some interesting revelations out there, but for me what i know is hunters are also customers so far as you get hold of any of their  tokens you could be treated as a customer and therefore all rules and regulations  covers you.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: pedpedped101 on February 28, 2019, 11:48:09 PM
So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.
his has been my stand for quite some time now, which is why i am always being careful when it comes to giving someone that i do not know, my personal details.
I have even come across situations, where peoples' identities were being sold for money.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: mcTether on February 28, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
You just made a very valid point which all bounty managers of this forum should take note of because they have been the main reason for this misinformation and unnecessary compulsion of KYC at the end of the bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: fuer44 on March 05, 2019, 01:23:27 AM
if I have another opinion, that is, Kyc is only required for investors who have a large number, or the bounty hunter who owns or estimates that they will get a large amount. so the small amount, does not need to be charged by Kyc.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: restuibu on March 05, 2019, 01:46:40 AM
I agree with the KYC pattern that must be done at the beginning of campaign so that those who pass KYC can continue working and those who don't pass KYC can look for other projects, KYC is also very good for preventing multiple accounts but what I think is "will our personal data be safe "


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: maman567 on March 05, 2019, 01:53:27 AM
Many bounty campaign use KYC pattern but I need next time for bounty campaign only use id card than have upload passport for KYC,  many bounty participants still do not have passport and could miss payment if joined bounty needed KYC.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: defoman on March 05, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
I think this is fair, because it is very disappointing after many weeks of participating in the bounty campaign to learn about the need to undergo the KYC procedure and lose tokens. If the company initially stated that it will be necessary to pass this procedure, I will know whether I should take further part or look for a new bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: OptimusPrime_3 on March 05, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Considering lots of issues hunters have with kyc, I think your opinion should become one of the choices start-up projects should consider. Have even see scenarios where many submitted fake document even when a project is authentic. All this controversies should be looked into and corrected.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: nwosuchristabe2 on March 05, 2019, 01:53:10 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Am in full support of your concept. It would be very disappointing to know that you are expected to complete a kyc to get rewards after going through the bounty for over 3 months. The process of carrying out some kyc procedures are very stringent and the information required are mostly unnecessary, especially due to the fact that we are not investors.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Dannev on March 05, 2019, 03:00:34 PM
I totally agree with you dude. The point of bringing up KYC at the end of Bounty is just a way to divert hunters funds. Project teams should take up this idea and implement on. But they won't, cos all they want is for their project to be promoted and at the end they do what they wish with hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: JohnMacZeppelin on March 05, 2019, 04:13:50 PM
I fully support the idea of ​​revising this pattern, because there are fears that our documents simply resell and make huge databases, where we all will figure, this is a huge problem. Therefore, I am sure that we need to revise all this.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on March 05, 2019, 04:34:23 PM
KYC is needed to reduce fraud. And I think everything depends on everyone because if you are willing to KYC, you can join. But if you don't agree, you can look for other projects. And this KYC pattern must be changed and carried out at the beginning of the campaign.

I agree, KYC was formed to protect against fraud. The only question you should ask is whether bounty hunters are investors whom KYC applies to. They only get a prize in the form of tokens for their work, so it's rather hard for them to have something to do with illegal activities.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: StephenJH on March 05, 2019, 04:41:32 PM
KYC is needed to reduce fraud. And I think everything depends on everyone because if you are willing to KYC, you can join. But if you don't agree, you can look for other projects. And this KYC pattern must be changed and carried out at the beginning of the campaign.

I agree, KYC was formed to protect against fraud. The only question you should ask is whether bounty hunters are investors whom KYC applies to. They only get a prize in the form of tokens for their work, so it's rather hard for them to have something to do with illegal activities.
KYC can prevent abuse on both ICO and bounty campaigns. There are no good alternatives to KYC  system unfortunately. ICOs are also scamming people and investors. Sometimes they don't pat to bounty hunters and KYC is meaningless in this situation.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: crenfrosck on March 08, 2019, 11:43:43 PM
I am not in favor of KYC, but as long as this process is completed before the job is done I do not see a problem. As we know, some bounty managers are not that innocent and they come with this statement after the end of bounty. That is completely wrong. People have spent time promoting the project and they should not be rewarded without showing their ID? Not professional attitude at all. All we can do is spot those managers and not joining their bounties, but it will be late for some anyway  :(.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: crzybilly on March 09, 2019, 02:27:31 PM
I agree and think that a KYC at the beginning of a bounty would be a much better start. Everyone would understand that KYC is needed to get rewards and hunters that will pass this process would be able to get more rewards.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: CoinsOrDie on March 09, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
Sometimes KYC procedires can take quite a while to complete ,that may be an issue for some project who want to get their project right on the go,to deal with issues later.They often indicate that kyc documentations will be required at the end of the campaign.It is better done at the end of the everything.
I think in a different way. KYC is very quick and I think it will be completed in a few minutes if the team works hard. I look forward to the time when KYC for bounty will be removed


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: kingpin4321 on March 09, 2019, 02:30:37 PM
You are correct about the fact that kyc is in full know your customer and although bounty hunters are not directly customer because they are not purchasing the token but they are actually going to be rewarded the token at the end so that's qualifies them for KYC


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: makerst on March 09, 2019, 02:51:19 PM
The idea as a whole is not very bad, because people have already learned how to create fake documents that KYC successfully pass, then it will probably be necessary to think to developers, who just as well simply collect money and run away, with their heads.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: rhyoanime on March 09, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
of course, I agree with your opinion!
there are so many bounty hunters who feel upset, because after working and getting shares.
but because their KYC was questioned, they couldn't get a salary.
This KYC system should be repaired for bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: aji567 on March 09, 2019, 03:15:27 PM
I am looking for a clear bounty for the announcement, when there is a bounty that must use KYC then I make sure I will not follow the bounty. because for me KYC is a complicated thing and makes me lazy to do it. if the bounty that I followed suddenly asked for KYC at the end of the campaign and distribution, I would be forced to do KYC because it would be in vain if I didn't do KYC and didn't get tokens at all.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Eildosa on March 09, 2019, 08:26:29 PM
Yes, this procedure must be reported at the beginning of the bounty. This would be fair and would mean that the bounty hunter would definitely get his reward. KYC procedure must be changed.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ikicha on March 09, 2019, 08:36:27 PM
If you have a solution for the cheater ?, Went they doing an KYC sometimes cheater still get passed on that verification. Thats was a proof you can check at blackmarket someone selling some ID for KYC. KYC will always a best option for verication


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Runbitup on March 09, 2019, 09:02:40 PM
If you have a solution for the cheater ?, Went they doing an KYC sometimes cheater still get passed on that verification. Thats was a proof you can check at blackmarket someone selling some ID for KYC. KYC will always a best option for verication
maybe not yet, but I think there will be a time when KYC will be replaced in a better way.
but that doesn't mean if I really hate KYC, it's only used by fraudsters so I think there must be a better system than KYC to implement in a project, for example using verification code


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: beehimneff on March 09, 2019, 09:16:59 PM
I have the opposite opinion on this topic. I think it is more expedient to pass the KYC procedure after the end of the bounty campaign when it is already known how many tokens I will receive for the work done by me. And that can be and it makes no sense to undergo the process of KYC for pennies. ;D


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: arnoldrimmer on March 09, 2019, 09:21:18 PM
The fact I don't like about KYC is depriving the bounty hunters their tokens by using KYC as an excuse which was never  stated  intially


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: nikola22 on March 09, 2019, 09:37:21 PM
many users don't want to pass KYC neither before bounty nor at the end. so it would be better to remove KYC for all bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Bonsaiav on March 09, 2019, 09:47:04 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

For bounty hunters maybe yes, of course this problem will make it difficult for them when they want to participate in winning prizes, because their image has been fixed as a hunter which means many have BTC addresses, or often change the BTC address according to the organizer's wishes.

Honestly, I'm not opposed to the presence of KYC who took part in monitoring the development of cryptocurrency users, because KYC itself is one of the institutions that can be said to be important, in combating criminal actions related to money laundering crimes.

Previously, the discourse on KYC had become a debate between two groups that were pro and contra, if this continues to be allowed, of course this thing will have a bad effect on users, both for customers and bounty hunters because both have a close relationship with the crypto market development. So, there's no other way for KYC other than by changing its performance patterns so that their presence does not hurt one party.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: pixie85 on March 09, 2019, 10:00:38 PM
many users don't want to pass KYC neither before bounty nor at the end. so it would be better to remove KYC for all bounty hunters.

However KYC is a good way to prevent people from cheating (e.g. signing up with multiple accounts).
As long as it's mentioned in the rules from the beginning and not just being added during the campaign I can't see any problems about KYC.


If you sign up with multiple accounts you still have to do the job and it's 2 or 3 times the job when you have 2 or 3 accounts. This shouldn't concern the manager when somebody is working twice as much and getting paid for it.
Spammers will get spotted and banned at some point and the reward money is not very high for them to keep buying accounts for the purpose of cheating.
I see no reason for KYC bounties.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Iyeman on March 09, 2019, 10:51:46 PM
If you have a solution for the cheater ?, Went they doing an KYC sometimes cheater still get passed on that verification. Thats was a proof you can check at blackmarket someone selling some ID for KYC. KYC will always a best option for verication
That's kinda true, in the blackmarket even though I've never seen it in with my eyes but so many people are already discussing that there are some people selling important data like passport etc. Maybe those datas were leaked from the fake KYC that used to deceive people. If project want to require KYC then they might aswell be more legit, reliable and use trusted KYC platform.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Kiefner on March 09, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
There were so many problems and yet people still go through KYC and complain about it. It is necessary to decide whether you will participate in the bounty companies where you need to pass KYC, or not.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: adekogbe on March 09, 2019, 11:59:42 PM
 I think something is to be changed concerning the way people to fulfill KYC requirements because passport and other forms of id card at too sensitive an information to just give out to a body that cannot be trusted to guarantee its safety or its protection.
 
Other forms of kyc like live video verification and facial recognition will perform a lot better


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: taufik123 on March 10, 2019, 01:24:48 AM
In my opinion, KYC for bounty hunters is not needed. except for a good project that does have the potential for a bounty hunter. if you really want to continue applying KYC, it must be applied when the bounty has been completed and the softcap or hardcap has been achieved, so that the KYC provided is not in vain and not misused.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: harrypotpot on March 10, 2019, 03:16:27 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

I think they are not changing their KYC pattern, some are having no KYC but after the ICO, they will going to implement KYC procedure which is not quite promising since they trap their bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: judeafante on March 10, 2019, 03:44:37 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

This is something bounty hunters do not want to happen, not because they have double account but because they are not a fan of KYC because of the news that some ICO in the past are selling their customer's credentials, one of the ICO that suddenly change their rule and ask bounty hunters to now do KYC is ADAB SOLUTIONS.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Iceblast on March 10, 2019, 05:03:29 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I saw that it was a good thing to do before the job, but what I asked was that there was a guarantee that our personal data could be secured and not cheated by the team?
this is a fear for the participants who will do the Kyc


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Argoo on March 10, 2019, 06:37:40 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
A KYC check is illegal for bounty hunters, but if it is carried out, then it must of course be carried out before the bounty hunters begin their work. This is quite logical, since this process is not regulated, it does not have general rules for its conduct and to the required information and to provide copies of documents. Some bounty hunters due to various life situations cannot provide some of the required documents and therefore they need to clearly see if they will be able to pass the KYC test or not. Many ICOs already write directly whether a KYC check will be conducted or not, and if so, they provide the opportunity to pass it immediately. And it is right.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ereborltc on March 10, 2019, 08:16:20 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
I very much agree with this proposal. Before starting the bounty, I have to confirm whether I need KYC because I am almost not involved in KYC projects.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: QNaka on March 12, 2019, 11:47:46 AM
The KYC requirement for bounty hunters definitely holds back fraud with multiple accounts. But it is fair to say that, unlike an investor, KYC for a hunter should be easier, and then the hunter will pass this procedure without regret at the very beginning of the bounty of the company.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: xvids on March 12, 2019, 12:24:14 PM
Back before I use or bought an hardware wallet,
I always use seperate wallets for every transaction I use one wallet for recieving my bounty rewards and sometimes airdrop rewards,
But I always seperate where I would keep it for a long term hold and a wallet for a cash out option.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ostonian on March 12, 2019, 12:45:48 PM
Since we cannot avoid passing kyc, it is best to go through it after the end of the bounty campaign, when you are sure that you have earned at least something.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: burky155 on March 12, 2019, 01:18:07 PM
The bounty hunter never should to get under KYC procedure. The hunters would take what the devs gives them. This is really ridiculous. Also i don't understand why the investors should send KYC? Why? We all came to cryptocurrency market because of the privacy but now it is gone. Even the exchanges ask for KYC today and if you don't send you can't trade!


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: globalpain on March 12, 2019, 01:38:26 PM
I agree with your opinion, not all bounty hunters agree with the existence of Kyc, and it is true that bounty hunters are not customers because they only promote projects in various media depending on the campaign followed and get rewards for the job.
if there is a project that requires Kyc it must to notify from the beginning about it, do not suddenly requires Kyc at the end of the bounty


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: radokan on March 12, 2019, 01:42:17 PM
Since we cannot avoid passing kyc, it is best to go through it after the end of the bounty campaign, when you are sure that you have earned at least something.
Why we can't, bounty without kyc should not do kyc.
If this practice continues maybe it is time for me to not join signature campaigns any more.
I don't see why they want kyc now but they didn't want it a year ago.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: r_delossa on March 12, 2019, 05:52:02 PM
We should change this structure because obviously, this process does not guarantee the safety of investors. I have read enough posts about how to send in fake documents for a KYC. We need to stop this.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Mr.Spreadthehamster on April 01, 2019, 11:35:05 AM
KYC is definitely needed and useful in the cryptographic community for fair dealing with fraud. However, KYC does not make sense for bounty hunters, and two-factor identification without passport data would be a sufficient solution for team control.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Bitbtc8 on April 01, 2019, 11:37:32 AM
Yes you are right,I myself have create few posts about this issue on btt forum but many bounty managers don't follow it ,why would you implement KYC after bounty ends? Its cheating ,KYC should be announced from the start to safe hunters time and efforts ,I don't know why they don't follow this easy steps


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Lumi3004 on April 01, 2019, 11:45:10 AM
I think Kyc about bounty is a bit boring, why, because not necessarily the tokens that are given the price can make us sufficient, what's more with our passports and original identity, we have a bounty scam. That makes us drop. I don't think it is necessary for Kyc, if you leave it.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: karagun125 on April 01, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
I think years ago, bounty hunters are not assigned to have a kyc, its just now that several of the ico's and bounty campaigns requiring bounty hunters for kyc, maybe they would just have to know every of the participants and also possibly that some scam projects would just get someone's identity from their kyc.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ttcsalam on April 01, 2019, 12:08:40 PM
Yes this is good thinking about the point. Because at fast need advertise KYC then need opinion then can start KYC Pattern.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: fosco333 on April 01, 2019, 12:09:11 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Of course they are against it, they maybe want to stay anonymous and hidden from other peoples.
KYC is required to prevent money laundry and scammers, but i think it is ok for hunters who receiving huge reward.
Yes, the rule about KYC should be announced before the start of campaign, not at the end.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Hamphser on April 01, 2019, 12:11:30 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Of course they are against it, they maybe want to stay anonymous and hidden from other peoples.
KYC is required to prevent money laundry and scammers, but i think it is ok for hunters who receiving huge reward.
Yes, the rule about KYC should be announced before the start of campaign, not at the end.
It should be on the start but there are bounties which do apply this KYC thing in the end of the bounty which is pretty shady.
If they announce it that they have been required on such regulation then its considerable and as a hunter its your choice if you
would comply or not to get your tokens but for those project owners who tend to cheat out and not willing to pay up bounty
tokens overall then they would make this KYC as an alibi.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: maianh09 on April 01, 2019, 12:12:43 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty, but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Some bonus campaign managers have made a request to pass KYC, but many bounty hunters don't care about that. They fill out the participation form and then do their job. After the campaign ended and it was time for bounty hunters to start implementing KYC that they had forgotten when they joined the campaign.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: dedi joni on April 01, 2019, 12:13:09 PM
Of course they are against it, they maybe want to stay anonymous and hidden from other peoples.
KYC is required to prevent money laundry and scammers, but i think it is ok for hunters who receiving huge reward.
Yes, the rule about KYC should be announced before the start of campaign, not at the end.
for bounty campaign I think it still makes sense with kyc, but there are some for which required kyc for participants and what they get is also not worthy to be called money. except for the airdrop is really nice and has decent pay.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: steveabrahams on April 01, 2019, 12:43:22 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
It's also good but i think most of bounty do the kyc after the bounty finished and bounty manager usually tell first to the bounty participants that the bounty will need kyc in the end. Tbh KYC is not 100% bad, i mean KYC can eliminate that alt accounts on bounties.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: mirawantirinjana on April 01, 2019, 12:57:41 PM
There were so many problems and yet people still go through KYC and complain about it. It is necessary to decide whether you will participate in the bounty companies where you need to pass KYC, or not.

this will not be a problem if indeed the bounty hunters get equal rewards with the KYC they provide. many people complain that KYC requirements are a bit difficult for some people and they don't get the rewards they expect.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: coin-investor on April 01, 2019, 01:41:04 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

You're absolutely right, but this practice is still going on, they changed the rules at the end of the bounty, this is just to get workers to work for free, so if you are going to participate in a bounty campaign, even if you are not in favor of bounty campaign, get ready to do KYC if you see the coin has potential.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: trudovik on April 01, 2019, 02:01:55 PM
This is really a very, very correct decision, which you must unambiguously understand today. Today, it is necessary to change not only the approach to the KYC process, but also the use of KYC as a whole. Because all this is nothing more than deception.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: wendiar19 on April 01, 2019, 02:08:35 PM
This is really a very, very correct decision, which you must unambiguously understand today. Today, it is necessary to change not only the approach to the KYC process, but also the use of KYC as a whole. Because all this is nothing more than deception.
I don't think that all KYC is a fraud, this is like opening a bank, parties will definitely ask for your ID for valid identification and can be held responsible when something goes wrong, and KYC can now be used for validation when trading on exchange place or participate in ICO, and can be used to identify participants.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: cabron on April 01, 2019, 02:24:37 PM
This is really a very, very correct decision, which you must unambiguously understand today. Today, it is necessary to change not only the approach to the KYC process, but also the use of KYC as a whole. Because all this is nothing more than deception.
I don't think that all KYC is a fraud, this is like opening a bank, parties will definitely ask for your ID for valid identification and can be held responsible when something goes wrong, and KYC can now be used for validation when trading on exchange place or participate in ICO, and can be used to identify participants.

I would just simply treat all KYC as fraud besides the ones from the known exchanges like binance and the rest but its definitely fraud for a team who's doing ICO to collect data from us knowing that they can send these information to a 3rd party. Say you have invested just about $1K but to them it means you can invest into something which you are not sure yet and it means you have to money. Just this info itself is important not just for a marketing department but for hackers.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on April 01, 2019, 03:22:34 PM
This is really a very, very correct decision, which you must unambiguously understand today. Today, it is necessary to change not only the approach to the KYC process, but also the use of KYC as a whole. Because all this is nothing more than deception.
I don't think that all KYC is a fraud, this is like opening a bank, parties will definitely ask for your ID for valid identification and can be held responsible when something goes wrong, and KYC can now be used for validation when trading on exchange place or participate in ICO, and can be used to identify participants.

I would just simply treat all KYC as fraud besides the ones from the known exchanges like binance and the rest but its definitely fraud for a team who's doing ICO to collect data from us knowing that they can send these information to a 3rd party. Say you have invested just about $1K but to them it means you can invest into something which you are not sure yet and it means you have to money. Just this info itself is important not just for a marketing department but for hackers.
Basically, they have no idea by collecting our data, if they are saying they will try to be compliance with regulation but the fact said that if they are not even registered and licensed.
I will never agree with the decision to collect the identity from the bounty hunters


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Blakcwhite69 on April 01, 2019, 03:26:31 PM
This is really a very, very correct decision, which you must unambiguously understand today. Today, it is necessary to change not only the approach to the KYC process, but also the use of KYC as a whole. Because all this is nothing more than deception.
I don't think that all KYC is a fraud, this is like opening a bank, parties will definitely ask for your ID for valid identification and can be held responsible when something goes wrong, and KYC can now be used for validation when trading on exchange place or participate in ICO, and can be used to identify participants.

This doesn't all mean fraud and people's intentions to deceive others will emerge if they do. All the data they need is in their hands.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Commitments on April 01, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
I have disagree with KYC pattern where its need our ID number and I am afraid will be use fault some thing by untrust team and owner, by the way KYC is april mop or not? or we have submit kyc forever to get active in bitcointalk forum.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: hell_slayer on April 01, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
I don't think that all KYC is a fraud, this is like opening a bank, parties will definitely ask for your ID for valid identification and can be held responsible when something goes wrong, and KYC can now be used for validation when trading on exchange place or participate in ICO, and can be used to identify participants.
Well , maybe not all KYC is a fraud , but this does not mean that it should not be avoided by all means. It's like with sharks: everyone knows that there are many sharks that are dangerous to humans, but not everyone can distinguish between dangerous and safe, so most people avoid all sharks. I hope my analogy is clear and you understand what I mean .


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Crypt0BHunter on April 01, 2019, 05:32:06 PM
I totally agree with your opinion and the better way to do KYC through decentralized blockchain service, why every trusted ICO don't use it, or there is no such service now?


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: installer on April 01, 2019, 05:37:15 PM
Absolutely not, KYC is not done for the crypto world. It was always the most important in this industry to keep everything anonymous and that is for what crypto currencies are standing for. We should lift KYC for bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Nanagyasi on April 01, 2019, 06:02:38 PM
The whole idea of kyc among bounty hunters is tolerated at all by most people and the fact is, it becomes even worse when you work for 3 months and over and you are denied your reward just because you failed to provide some documents for kyc verification.
I agree with you on the part that if bounty hunters are required to complete their kyc before joining, it would be ohk.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: m0Ray on April 02, 2019, 03:46:24 AM
The idea of the author of a topic is very good. But I would add to it that those developers who unexpectedly after the end of the bounty program introduce KYC are scammers and they need to be entered into the black list of ICO projects. I'm sure it will be beneficial for both parties, both for private developers and bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: cak imin on April 02, 2019, 03:49:56 AM
The idea of the author of a topic is very good. But I would add to it that those developers who unexpectedly after the end of the bounty program introduce KYC are scammers and they need to be entered into the black list of ICO projects. I'm sure it will be beneficial for both parties, both for private developers and bounty hunters.

in fact many project ico asking kyc at the end of their campaign for the bounty hunter. being right for investors already from the beginning they asked for kyc. It is sometimes very difficult but valuable reward for them would do it.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Krismanto on April 02, 2019, 06:32:22 AM
KYC is indeed a very interesting conversation and this all goes back to the policies of each Team. I strongly agree with KYC, but the KYC pattern must be changed. And KYC was placed at the beginning of the campaign. So that each participant must do KYC before they start work.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: cunguks on April 02, 2019, 06:44:26 AM
KYC is indeed a very interesting conversation and this all goes back to the policies of each Team. I strongly agree with KYC, but the KYC pattern must be changed. And KYC was placed at the beginning of the campaign. So that each participant must do KYC before they start work.
it's a good choice rather than requiring Kyc suddenly at the end of the campaign. it makes participants uncomfortable, because there are new policies that might be detrimental to participants. there is no problem if the procedure for filling the kyc is still normal, but there are those who forbid some of the documents that make the process of filling the kyc very difficult and it can clearly make the bounty hunter work in vain.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: elzjmirra on April 02, 2019, 06:56:23 AM
I think KYC provides very positive benefits because it can reduce fraud. Today fraud is always increasing and many people are losing money. I think KYC is needed on every project.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: airdropan on April 02, 2019, 07:05:03 AM
totally agree with you. KYC it should come for investor. investor holding almost 50% or more total supply
and the bounty hunter just holding like 1% 2% from total supply. i dont think kyc really worth to do for that


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ochakemaput on April 02, 2019, 07:10:14 AM
totally agree with you. KYC it should come for investor. investor holding almost 50% or more total supply
and the bounty hunter just holding like 1% 2% from total supply. i dont think kyc really worth to do for that
all of that is a procedure implemented by the developer. If we don't follow it then we will not get our reward. the most important of kyc not vex bounty hunter, during the process and the documents provided are not abused by developers.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: shesheboy on April 02, 2019, 07:13:09 AM
totally agree with you. KYC it should come for investor. investor holding almost 50% or more total supply
and the bounty hunter just holding like 1% 2% from total supply. i dont think kyc really worth to do for that

Agree on the first sentence that you have said  . kyc must only be applicable to investors that will invest bigger volumes just like what we see on trading exchanges  .  kyc is meant to increase a user limits .   now on your second sentence i disagree when you say that a bounty hunter must also do kyc .  why they will do a kyc when they arent investing on anything related to the project ?   Whats the point of kyc on them  ?


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Chika08 on April 02, 2019, 07:17:55 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
that's your personal opinion which is some how good but not entirely because of some factors which you didn't take note of. If it's donethat way, then many eligible hunters will end up not being in the campaign


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Soberb on April 02, 2019, 07:23:39 AM
Yes you are right it is good idea for any project demanding KYC information before allowing bounty hunters to work for them. But I do not think that any public forums where people from across the world can share their views need kyc details of the participants. It is okay to require phone number of a forum member just like telegram does. On the other hand, every project launching bounty programmes have different rules about KYC documents. Some requires very much detailed personal information, while other not. So I think for bounty programmes, projects should require KYC information from bounty hunters beforehand.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: yulchatar on April 02, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
Yes you are right it is good idea for any project demanding KYC information before allowing bounty hunters to work for them. But I do not think that any public forums where people from across the world can share their views need kyc details of the participants. It is okay to require phone number of a forum member just like telegram does. On the other hand, every project launching bounty programmes have different rules about KYC documents. Some requires very much detailed personal information, while other not. So I think for bounty programmes, projects should require KYC information from bounty hunters beforehand.

By the way, it is a good idea to use confirmation by phone number. Perhaps in the future, project creators and bounty managers will take care to create a simplified version of identity verification, without specifying the document number (passport, driver's license, etc.) and other official papers.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Apes on April 02, 2019, 07:56:12 AM
I have never done KYC. before the bounty token results can be cashed. if I do KYC I am worried that my data will be traded for criminals. because not all bounty token can be partially cashed. some of them becoming shitcoin. so why we do KYC if it has no value. and I follow bounty which in the campaign beginning commitment there was no KYC process at the end. and most of bounty manager will announce it. ICO needs this forum to Promote their projects we are not investors but Partner.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: setialovers on April 02, 2019, 08:00:16 AM
I have never done KYC. before the bounty token results can be cashed. if I do KYC I am worried that my data will be traded for criminals. because not all bounty token can be partially cashed. some of them becoming shitcoin. so why we do KYC if it has no value. and I follow bounty which in the campaign beginning commitment there was no KYC process at the end. and most of bounty manager will announce it.

KYC already become common in crypto industry. In centralized exchanger, sometimes need KYC if we want to withdraw in certain amount of bitcoin. Recently, DEX exchanger like cryptobrigde need KYC for US customer. I think KYC need because government regulation and i dont think developers team dare to sell customer documents


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: jaywizzy on April 02, 2019, 08:11:04 AM
Yes I agreed with you, if kyc is to be done it should be done before the beginning of the project so that the  participants will not work in vain. Moreover bounty hunters are not customer, this should be done by the investors only.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: cryptjh on April 02, 2019, 08:13:01 AM
It seems like many KYC suddenly turns into be mandatory at the end of the campaign, without any former notices. Those KYC should never be done, and it's also my experience that those project will never come up with a product, but they are purely scams from the beginning. Just walk away if an ICO suddenly wants you to do a KYC.
People should only do KYC on trustworthy exchanges, that they want to use.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: distr@yopmail.com on April 02, 2019, 08:17:04 AM
KYC already become common in crypto industry. In centralized exchanger, sometimes need KYC if we want to withdraw in certain amount of bitcoin. Recently, DEX exchanger like cryptobrigde need KYC for US customer. I think KYC need because government regulation and i dont think developers team dare to sell customer documents
KYC that is done to register in exchange may be an obligation that must be done. but maybe the problem here is for the campaign participants. because many of the bounty hunters find it difficult to do the kyc that is not in accordance with the reward obtained. whether it's just an excuse or in fact.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on April 02, 2019, 08:21:00 AM
KYC already become common in crypto industry. In centralized exchanger, sometimes need KYC if we want to withdraw in certain amount of bitcoin. Recently, DEX exchanger like cryptobrigde need KYC for US customer. I think KYC need because government regulation and i dont think developers team dare to sell customer documents
KYC that is done to register in exchange may be an obligation that must be done. but maybe the problem here is for the campaign participants. because many of the bounty hunters find it difficult to do the kyc that is not in accordance with the reward obtained. whether it's just an excuse or in fact.
That's right, KYC shouldn't be required for bounty hunters because they are not taking part in investment process. I think projects ask for KYC because they want to make sure they know each and everyone that's holding their coins to make sure there will be no problems in the future but that's not a good reason to ask for a KyC


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ayobami99 on April 02, 2019, 09:05:14 AM
Wow, You deserve some accolades for this initiative. Bounty hunters will not need to work not knowing they will not get their rewards if their is pre bounty KYC. it will also increase the reward for each bounty hunters. Nice idea, let it be forwarded to bounty managers.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: tamango on April 02, 2019, 09:53:18 AM
I'm not against KYC in general but I don't like to give my data to perfect strangers. I think there are many good solution in order to do KYC in a quite safe way: the simplest one is to use a third app that is trusted by community like CIVIC, in this way ICO team will not have access to your personal documents.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: jademaxsuy on April 11, 2019, 03:06:38 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Yes bounty managers does not officially annouce in the case especially of there a need for thr certain project. the one who brought the project should annouce it before bointy campaign started. It is unfair on our part to do Kyc without annoucing it before the campaigne. starts.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: maculeth on April 20, 2019, 02:17:38 AM
to reduce spam and multiple accounts, I agree. but the process of cyc must be easier than usual, every upload of a document must be easier for each participant of each country.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: robelneo on April 20, 2019, 02:28:15 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for som they are all e other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

How I wished they are all like that, I was a victim of this in the past, bounty almost finish when they announced that they will now ask for KYC I did not comply because it only shows they not trustworthy, and I don't like this for a ICO the site turns out to be a scam, this is really complicated and hard for me  because it will compromise in what I believed in.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: craslovell on April 20, 2019, 02:29:23 AM
As a bounty manager myself I don't see any reason to have KYC in place unless legally obligated to do so. Usually we are handling smaller user bases however including smaller payouts.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: batang_bitcoin on April 20, 2019, 02:32:31 AM
Pass on KYC if you think that the project is worth it do it but if you doubt, dont do it.

You always have the choice to proceed or not.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: mitchr4 on April 20, 2019, 02:36:46 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
As a bounty hunter we don't know what to do. Indeed we are not customers but on the other hand if we do not fill KYC it means we get nothing. So I think it's up to customers or bounty hunters that we have to follow the direction of the project. After all, we also join in the free campaign and also get a reward.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: modmalaney on April 20, 2019, 03:20:57 AM
Maybe there isn't much we can do about KYC procedures. There are many bounty hunters who oppose it, but the KYC procedure continues. Indeed, as hunters, they are not investors and if they have to go through a KYC process, I don't think that's true. But I must be prepared for all of these conditions.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: steveabrahams on April 20, 2019, 03:58:11 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Tbh KYC for bounty participants is a joke, bounty hunters should be not do KYC too because they are not their customers. Well, for the positive thing, KYC can help to eliminate all multi accounts on the bounty. In the end, the stakes that the alts got will be deleted and give it to the real person.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on April 20, 2019, 08:39:35 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Tbh KYC for bounty participants is a joke, bounty hunters should be not do KYC too because they are not their customers. Well, for the positive thing, KYC can help to eliminate all multi accounts on the bounty. In the end, the stakes that the alts got will be deleted and give it to the real person.
The bounty distribution method with the stakes is not fair and the bounty managers should think about the alternative options. Honestly, KYC is used for eliminating the weak hands and the bounty participants are victims of greedy teams who don't like share.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: ali115112 on April 21, 2019, 07:57:39 AM
I agreed with you, but we can't force to ICO's to get KYC before start the bounty its upon projects and KYC will be compulsory in future and also this will be requirement by FATF.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: shoreno on April 21, 2019, 08:04:59 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?
Tbh KYC for bounty participants is a joke, bounty hunters should be not do KYC too because they are not their customers. Well, for the positive thing, KYC can help to eliminate all multi accounts on the bounty. In the end, the stakes that the alts got will be deleted and give it to the real person.
The bounty distribution method with the stakes is not fair and the bounty managers should think about the alternative options. Honestly, KYC is used for eliminating the weak hands and the bounty participants are victims of greedy teams who don't like share.

using stakes as a form of payment method per week is okay but what is not acceptable to me is the bounty campaigns are mainly dishonest  . most of them arent paying as what they promise because the campaign have turned into scam  .

sometimes they are paying if we are lucky but the problem is the value of the coins which is verry low  . kyc is not also a problem at all but as long as the bounty will pay you and the value of the coins is much higher compare to other bounties that does not have a kyc  .


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: babysweetTiger0401 on April 21, 2019, 08:35:55 AM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

I know how you feel and I understand your sentiments due to I'm also one of the bounty hunters.
But KYC is depend on the Bounty manager. in fact, there are some of the campaign giving the rules at the first
page of their kyc rules before joining in the bounty. Therefore, it is all up to the decision of the bounty hunters.
So, if there are some complaining they are free not to join, but if they join they can't do nothing in the end but to
follow the rules if they want to be pay.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: igor.vanyutin.83 on April 21, 2019, 11:19:31 AM
I totally agree with you, if the team members have announced a KYC process before the bounty launch, it is legit, because everybody knew that there will be a KYC process. But announcing a KYC at the end of a bounty is nothing else than cheating.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: waitforme on April 21, 2019, 12:17:37 PM
KYC becomes a mandatory requirement in some bonus campaigns to verify the identity of participants. Bonus managers give out campaign announcements that require KYC verification. So every bounty hunter can check it through the manager or be notified directly on the topic.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: therhslv on April 21, 2019, 12:19:52 PM
I think kyc is a must novadays as there is so many greedy people that create multiple accounts and try to cheat with fake twitter , facebook followers . And ofcourse bounty managers should take a closer look on every work done . Because i can point out so many bounty where alot of people got paid like 5-6 times with same account ....


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: hongus on April 21, 2019, 12:34:05 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Yes, unfortunately there is nothing to do. I regularly see how companies are trying to take our passports under any way. I even sometimes refuse the reward if I don’t trust the project 100% because I don’t want my documents to fall into the hands.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Galantin on April 21, 2019, 01:10:07 PM
Why companies have the right to insist on the conditions. Such as proof of identity? I'm so tired of the fact that projects change the rules of the game. I'm not ready to go KYC always.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: george_hured on April 21, 2019, 02:05:54 PM
The change as a whole will not change the meaning of this process, because it seems to me that the process as a whole excludes the possibility to use cryptocurrency for the purposes that were originally conceived in this regard.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Jrfranco on April 21, 2019, 08:26:26 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?

Your idea is good and i agree with it, although there are some mistakes of the project team and bounty manager for not informing the bounty participants at the start, i think we should not be worry about kyc as long as we are honest to ourselves and that we can supply the necessary requirement which is the identification card, not unless we use farming accounts,and this should not be helpful anyway.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Ozero on April 21, 2019, 08:56:02 PM
Of course, a KYC check should only be carried out with respect to certain individuals and only in cases provided for this. Such verification should be carried out only with the aim of preventing the laundering of dirty money and combating the financing of terrorism. In other words, this check should be carried out to prevent illegal operations with finances or to uncover committed crimes with monetary funds. Bounty hunters do not invest their money and therefore should not be tested by KYC.
ICO teams simply abuse their rights, taking advantage of the lack of regulation of this type of activity when they demand that bounty hunters pass through KYC checks.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: Uju4real on April 21, 2019, 09:29:45 PM
There have been so much issues arising from bounty hunters doing kyc. So many bounty hunters are against it. Also looking at what kyc means, it means know your customer and bounty hunters are not customers.

So my thought is this: if there must be kyc , it should be done before the start of the bounty. If you pass the kyc, you start the bounty but if you fail, you just leave it and look for some other promising bounty.

What do you think about this?


Exactly KYC should be indicated at the start of the bounty and with that bounty hunters will have the option of either to partake in it or not but I guess most of them won't want that cos you find out that only few bounty hunters will partake in the project


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on April 21, 2019, 09:34:13 PM
I think kyc is a must novadays as there is so many greedy people that create multiple accounts and try to cheat with fake twitter , facebook followers . And ofcourse bounty managers should take a closer look on every work done . Because i can point out so many bounty where alot of people got paid like 5-6 times with same account ....
I don't know if KYC is the solution for this problem because this will only lead to losing a lot of their workers, especially the good ones. People use multiple fake accounts because they can and the managers allow it since they are not careful enough doing all the research necessary before accepting them.


Title: Re: Change Of KYC Pattern
Post by: avonka on April 21, 2019, 11:40:43 PM
Doing KYC has the benefit of sorting out scammers with multiple accounts. KYC requirement should be announced before the bounty starts and everybody can decide to participate or not under KYC conditions.