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We all know gambling is random. We like to call it as "luck" as it sounds cute but it's like "choice of odds" in mathematics.

I'm an atheist and when I started to play, I had a fun experience despite of what I won or lose because I bet small amounts. Then I got addicted because of some big wins so I started to gamble much.

Even if I wanted to think that maybe my winning and losing isn't getting impacted by anything external, I believed otherwise. I believed my winning is the result of the color of the shirt and wearing, music I'm listening to, time of the day etc. Then when I lost big, I prayed to God to help me win/recover. I saw gambling as life and winning is heaven and losing is punishment from God.

Then slowly I stopped and the addiction got away a bit.

What's your opinion, do you believe in God/power that you think may help you win? I think gambling has the potential to turn an atheist into theist because of fear/risk it has. :)

In most religions, God wouldn't help you anything with gambling so there's no relation to it.

I thought that atheists doesn't believe in God? yours is a special case IMO.

Since gambling is luck based, You can only pray to God that you win the games. If you pray and then you win, your trust in God will be built more and you will pray every time before you play gamble.
If you are superstitious and think a certain color or thing can help you win, then you are totally wrong. You should not relate your winnings/losing with such things.

Hey gambling is luck based and for luck to be on your side you need to pray to god, however I don’t believe atheists believe in god but I’m glad to see you’re different. When we speak about your superstitions they’re normal, I have seen people sit on a particular spot, or wear a particular arm band to ensure they win. Also many people will say god won’t help you win, but then again why would god hurt his child think about that.

I do not think that gamblers should pray to God because God hates gamble. Therefore in most religion, it is forbidden to gamble. I think you should pray to the satan and do some dark ritual instead. Perhaps, you could sell your soul in return of wealth, but I do not recommend it.

PS: there is no real god, satan, and dark ritual. It is just imaginary things.

Atheist don't believe to any God maybe aside from the God of money, just like in the case of OP.
There's no one can help you in gambling aside from yourself and if you are not lucky on that day whether you're close to God or now, you will still not win. This is just kind of a mindset that every gamblers do because they want to win money and that's their belief for sure.

I believe in God so I believe that God involves in everything that I do/get. In case of gambling no matter when I win or lose, I believe that God has his plan on it. I cant say it is a God's power, but all is planned by God already.

Maybe if that person experiences downfall and said to himself "I will believe in GOD if I win this round" I think there are plenty of people who are into that kind of stuff. I just don't know if they follow through though. It's just a way of "increasing" their chances in their minds. I can't say that it works because it's just chance.

The story you described sounds like s typical case of people acting religiously under stress. Many start praying when they feel their life is in danger or, more generally, when they believe they can't change the situation but really want it to be changed. Surely, one could start believing if things work out in the end, but I don't think it's a good thing. I think that such matters should be considered via rational calm contemplation, regardley to the conclusion one reaches. Starting to believe in God after winning a bet seems irresponsible to me. Not to mention that many theologists believe that God has nothing to do with things like gambling, because these are matters of chance. If God intervened in the matters of chance or choice, it would diminish free will as well as break the laws of maths, and we don't want that to happen.

I think this kind of believing is closer to getting superstitious.

Total BS.If you are an atheist on the first place you wont really change that view or belief on the first place even if you do experience problems with gambling.
I do believe that sometimes you can really call to God into those times of hardship but its not really right at all that you do ask for chances on helping you to win.
Theres no such thing because luck do comes randomly.

As long as we believe, it will happen and God will really help us to achieve that.
Atheist may against to God but for sure, there are times in their life that they are also praying for something good to happen to them and in gambling it usually happen. They may not totally become a supporter of God but as long as their are asking for some  guidance then I think they will become like us, one day.

Lol!! It's good that you started believing in GOD as addicted gamblers might need his directions sometimes! However, it has no co-relation! What you are thinking as believing in GOD, is mainly superstition and it comes from greed! It may sound harsh to you but it's true! It happens when we don't know what needs to be done to win good amount from the game of luck and take GOD as last resort!

This really depends on every person's mentality. Some belive there is a God that helps them in life, others belive that the universe is the one that controls their lives while there are people that are sceptical and don't belive in any of this. There are so many different opinions on God's existence and the way he could help improve our lives and I think people blindly belive in God only because they are looking for a way to stop gambling, thinking he is going to help them win the jackpot.

Well maybe most religions believe that God dont interferes in gambling since thats a sin but i know some Christian’s that pray and ask for gods grace whenever they go to gamble lol


Maybe he just called himself an atheist but the truth is he don’t even know whats an atheist must be,because if you are a true nonbelievers of God these things won’t cross your mind

I don't know dude. Been gambling for a while and I must say I'm a superstitious person, so I don't include God in the equation though. Maybe I just wear the wrong shirt that day or that lady luck is not on my side. ;D

The success in gambling is always miracle in every time when we are getting the winning in gambling so we can definitely say there is something in this world to be performing our life with proper guidance so I trust it every time when I was doing the gambling investment.

It shoud be god of money, for most gamblers, we can think of crazy things and reasons just to make ourselves better with that.

I won't have an argument regarding that but it's the reality.

or it has fixed his mind because he wanted to win badly.

lol, even I am a religious person but I have never involved God in every bet I made even though it was money and a big losses in gambling. so, I'm just surprised by you who is an atheist who doesn't believe in God but when you gamble you pray to God. If that is the case, then the possibility that the experience will turn an atheist into a theist, but that doesn't guarantee and I'm not too sure just because gambling atheist can turn into theist.

I do believe that God is in Everything and because of this believe I do think that God influence whatever happens to us.  If you are winning in gambling and it is through luck I think God favored you and if you are losing you should still believed that God want you to quite gambling and focus on another thing.

I don't glorify everything you do like the color of clothes and so on, I believe that God has a way for everyone, whatever religious problems I don't want to know because it is personal belief without having to be published here and I don't know what religion you believe and if you have given the statement that you are an atheist is one that is very wrong because you do not have a position, I personally will never concern the religion with gambling because if you are really optimistic and think then victory will always come naturally.

I don't think you most of you guys consider gambling as the right thing to put GODS in it. It just all depends on what religion you were and if you are not believing in any Gods then it's your choice. Why bother to question yourself again if you really not believe in God when everything you did was according to your choices?

Don't think that God could associated to our winnings when it come to the issue of gambling, because God hate gamblers. God will not participate either with the winning side or the losing side of gambling, He was clearly against greediness in the mosaic dispensation, even till now he still do. Although we all pray to God to win in gambling, but he's not the one that give even at the point of our winnings nor our looses. Own personal view.

Actually, there is no direct connection between God (religion in general) and gambling. It was just your mindset.

Aside from being atheist, you surely don't think of God every time you win because you are in your comfortable state. You think nothing but to enjoy since everything is all under your control. On the other hand, pious people out there definitely thank a lot in God for how blessed they are every time they meet their goals but since you are not one of them then for sure you only rely on your capabilities claiming that you are the superior of your own. But when losing streak comes, there's a point that you now feel frustrated, confused and can't explain what's the reason for those miserable events which later result to calling God. Your mind and body tend to call Him because you are already hopless and feel helplessr right that moment. You treat God as your last resort for solving such problems.

Anyway, don't worry mate, that is normal and expected from an imperfect individual like you (us) For sure that most of us think the same way
It depends on the way of thinking of a particualr gambler. If he has a clearer mind and always stick to positive vibes then it's not impossible for him to change into theism but if he is really self-centered then he might get worse.

Gambling doesn't have any specific role in making an atheist get turned to be theist. Gambling is just an fun zone or an entertainment system which has got the access to provide players with a earning on their wins based on the amount being risked. There are people who are superstitious with traditional gambling, but the same isn't effective with online gambling.

That's pretty funny though but I believe there are a lot of people who did that at one point in their lives. But after winning or losing, they totally forgot what they promised.  :P

But to answer the topic presented, I think there are people who turned more on to be superstitious but not religious. They will find a good omen before playing. Though it's all in their minds, but it does good on their feelings.

Not really. If there is a God I am sure he is not searching for gamblers to help them win money. You said in your OP that you are an atheist but you prayed to God, that is a bit contradictory, asking help from someone or something you don't believe in and expecting to get help from the same.

there is nothing like that the luck is only the factor of getting success in gambling otherwise Strategies and hard work will not pay you in gambling you need to be invested every time when you had luck you will get the success in gambling.

Being religious has nothing to do with Gambling yet no matter how hard you do pray the result would be still the same if you arent lucky
on a particular day on gambling you will definitely lose no matter what. No hardwork or prayers would work out and theres no certain factor
that do affects out on how you would be gonna lucky yet this do only comes randomly.

Truth is as a former very religious person that God can not help in your gambling.
To risk your money when you should be providing for your family is something God and all religions I believe look down on.
Unless of course it supports the religion
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Gambling clubbed with political and society doubts kind of question is this. We should not consider religious faiths and the belief relevant to that with the simple games.
If you are thinking about other may think we have this kind of idea and want to learn more about the improvisation to show.

God is not a gambling God. I dont know if some countries has a God like that but i know God isnt favor on you gambling. If youre an atheist then im sure you are more prone to be angry with God whenever you lose your money on gambling. The probability is that you are more likely to lose than to win and God cant save you with that.

That's true, you might blame God if you run into a lost, you might blame him in case you lose a lot of money blaming him for letting him earlier on then lost a lot, so forget that ide, it's just a coincidence, we have a just God and will not lead you to something that can ruin you.

People tend to be just to live on that moment but right after, it goes away like nothing ever happened and when the time comes to do it again, they are going to blame "GOD" for not winning on the second time and totally not believe anymore. I don't know why people tend to do that though.

It's not good to rely on something like that. Better check yourself if you personally do that, I did before but I've learned better.

You are not an atheist, you are a pretender. If you are an atheist then there should not be a concept of god in you. You should be blaming the house if you lose if you are really an atheist.

I do not think gambling will turn someone into a God believing person unless he believes that dice and cards are his gods.

Gambling is not related to any religion, gambling was a way for a human to enjoy life and they can play so many games inside gambling games. I don't think that the addiction person in gambling will fear or afraid to play gambling games. Maybe some people will stop to play gambling if they remember about GOD. But I don't have any idea about that.

I don't think so, but its depend on your belief, for western people gambling is all about luck, odds and probability for Eastern people gamble is about superstitious things, you will find a lot of them wearing amulet to gamble, for me gambling is only for fun and it's all about luck, praying to God won't help you win because every religion forbid gambling

I have no idea if it would turn an atheist to theist, as when you are winning you don't care about God. Only when you are losing big you want help from God.

Also, it can only be an expressions in mind when OP's losing or hoping for a good outcome, but nonetheless he won't mind about it, if he wins he will not glorify anyone gambling is a game of hope and luck, no one can change anything aside from possible hack inside the system.

You don't need to be a theist to be superstitious. Humans aren't exactly logical creatures and it shows the most when we're dealing with probability, or just numbers in general. That's why we often make bad decisions regarding money.

Also, if you are religious, you know asking God for help in gambling is pointless. You already know it's considered wasteful.


Bwahahaha!  ;D

they will say oh my god !! When they lose or win. At least that reminds them to God. Lol.
You're right, there really isn't any correlation From gambling to religion. So don't expect you to get the guidance and blessings of God from gambling

In the view of religion, of course gambling still looks bad/have impression something that is not worth to do, it sounds strange when we can get helped from the religious side, it could be that we get help when do gambling if we have a helper genie :-\

I think different religion have different ways they view gambling, Islam condemns gambling harshly, and anything game of chance is prohibited and very restricted, same as Christianity also. In Christianity winning money at the expense of others is wrong because you are basically taking advantage on of another and that is what gambling teaches.

I think there are religions that supports gambling but against the addiction of it, anyone who plays gambling moderately without getting addicted will not have  any reason to feel guilty playing gambling, they will see it the way they play normal game on mobile that requires them buying coins to continue with it.

Funny question because people who gamble do not care about religion at all.They only care about having fun and winning some money

It can turn though any person to superstitious as even the atheist when it sees the plane crashing prays to whatever entity in his mind even God to save his life, so it says a joke so gambling can turn any person to superstitious.

Looking for some breathing, but ain't get anything as it's still considered a sin but some religious groups received financial assistance with gambling business they called it charitable works, really funny to know that religions called it a sin but accepting donations., Well I guess that's life.

So it means, from an atheist, someone can become a theist, right? ;D Because they say oh my GOD

I guess that if we are playing gambling, we don't need to say about religion. When you think that playing gambling is a sin, then you need to stay away and don't gamble for the rest of your life. But if you are okay with gamble, then you can gamble in anytime you want. But if someone is an atheist and he thinks that gamble is including in a sin matter and he decides to stop gamble, then that will be a good choice for him.

You probably not a fanatical atheist.. . only strong evidences could turn atheist like you away from atheism
You probably got too attached to gambling and when things began to get worse or things didn't go your way you became vulnerable and see the need for GOD.
Some atheist are quite stubborn  that nothing could ever turn them away from atheism

Gambling will not turn you into an atheist to theist and start to believe in superstitions, you only started to think of it because you are start wishing or asking for luck for you to have a chance to win gambling. You should not consider gambling as a religion or a church because it doesn't have any relation in any of these, and gambling is a game for entertainment or for leisure time. I also start asking for luck since i started playing in a trusted and famous online casino "vegas casino (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/peter%27s-universe?utm_source=ccpu)" because i always play poker and slots game there. Then i started to have a lose streak,so i start asking and praying for me to win a huge prize and it i really started to have a win streak after that.

You are definitely right that gambling will not make you to believe in god or in any superstitions because gambling is just a game for you to earn easy money or for entertainment only.

Gambling is really a game for you to win easy money and for entertainment, that is why it doesn't have any relation in any superstitions or religion, even it is all about chances of winning.

I don’t think winning or losing a gambling game has anything to do with God, God is not a gambler and would not support anything gambling based on my own belief, and if he does, he would not support gambling addiction so, he created games for fun and nature itself has a way it pick who to favor at any point and that is why it is a game of luck. And atheist in the first place, they do not even believe in the existence of God, so when I see one who   one who acknowledges his winning or losing to God, I think I should be surprised in the first place lol.

God is going to have her work cut out for her to convince me. I see nothing in the universe that won't be explained by rational scientific thought. Saying "God did it" is like saying "I'm just not willing to learn".

Not only that, its not right to think off that there are factors that can really affect gambling chances.If it does then these gambling businesses wont really exist on the first place
because people would just simply pray or do ask then they would able to win.These thing do happen on our own dreams but in reality you would really experience the opposite.

Lol. That is very true. I think so many religions are against gambling and many gamblers do not even put religion into consideration when gambling. Having fun is the paramount thing as long as it is not done excessively. Most religions are against clubbing but does that stop people from going to the club or does it mean people who go to club do not belong to a religion? It is not gambling per say that makes a gambler superstitious, its actually tension and the fear of losing lol.

I like your illustration of plane crash; it’s a normal thing with tension. Well my opinion on gambling and religion is that, religion has nothing to do with gambling and anyone who is interested in gambling drops his or her religion aside before going into the game.

True and witty! LOL. They are now blaming above with their losses.

Oh yeah, some church held raffle and it's a sort of gambling.

How the hell do you guys even come up with these kinds of thought or questions? No, gambling won't turn an atheist into a theist and superstitious. If they pray during gambling (pray so that the expected result favors the gambler), then there is a high chance that he has done it unintentionally. This doesn't mean that he is slowly turning back into a religious and a theist guy.
Just in short - No gambling addiction won't turn an atheist into a theist!

Very true on this one and it usually happen here in my place every year. Atheist can become religious too not just because of gambling but because they’ve started to believe on. Well, there are people who beleves on God but not on any religion, this maybe a different story. Gambling is too bad for some religions, but we all pray to win and I believe we are united here.

That is so true about churches, the ones around my area hold bingo nights and raffles.  So much for being against gambling.  Churches and religious figures have always been hypocrites for the most part so this doesn't surprise me.



"I'm not superstitious but I'm a little stitious"- Michael Scott :D

I do not see the relevance of connecting religious beliefs into luck but if it actually helps the person overcome the stress or pressure in gambling, then they are free to do so. Unfortunately, people who cling into believing superstitious beliefs typically end up disappointed. No matter what prayer you act or offering you do, when you are dealing with odds, everything is random.


That is the problem of most addicts as they view gambling as a form of acquiring 'easy money'. But in fact, it goes both ways that it is easy to win money and also easy to lose everything. If people tend to cling into superstitious beliefs whenever they gamble, let them be as it is their way of rationalizing their current situation. If it helps them mitigate their stress then I do not see the problem on doing so.

Though many people believe in the power of God's favor or one kind of power in turn thinks to they favour I strongly things that atheist will change their views about God because of momentary gains since this is base on believing.

This is one thing I think almost all atheist have in common and it makes me wonder what the belief is really all about. When there are good times you attribute it to nature or something else and when there is trouble you call on God to save you, I don’t know how a gambling game can make an atheist become theist but I know gambling is a game of lucky and luck is anything that happens by chance and that’s the same thing with loss.

So when you win, I think you should be grateful that your luck shine so well on that day rather than thinking it’s the color of cloth you wore. If there’s  a particular cloth color to gambling, I am very sure everyone would buy that. Well calling God to help you when you looseis also not a bad Idea, he could as well help.

Yeah lets just respect the beliefs of everyone as if we’re talking about religions everything has different stands and faith

But its happier if he really change from being atheist to God believers.the sad part is just because of gambling to win thats why he changed lol 😂

Most of religions are decide to forbid gambling so if you were identified as the gamblers then it's will against the religions and i think there is no related between gambling to atheist or not because it's pure luck of games unless you were addictions and want to stop gambling then get closer to your god through religions can help you to cure your addictions

Interesting concept, I think it definitely can happen to some people, but it entirely depends on how gullible you are as a person.
In the end it's just the effect of the gambling addiction that causes people to believe in that sort of divine intervention.

It's not going to help you in the long run, it will just cause you to gamble more & lets you think that you have luck on your side.
Pretty dangerous thing to let that happen to you, in my opinion at least.

Yes. I believe gambling is not listed in the will of God so if ever you win, it's not that God is helping you but rather it's your lucky day and so you win your bets. Gambling is just all about pure luck and even chances and if you gets addicted with it, then it would be likely turns out that gambling happens to be your god too because you believe on it.

When you are already coming to a point on where you do already praise or believing too much on Gambling then you are already on the addiction mode.You are
already not on your mind to think up clearly on the things you should supposed to think off.Its never had a connection between divine things to gambling, it all
matter with luck when you win.Period.

Yes, we have our own beliefs and traditions regarding this.

About changing from his belief as atheist to God believing because of gambling, I don't have anything to say about it. He just have to live his life to the fullest.

Gambling can change anyone to any type of situation so in this gambling field you need to be very very careful while doing something because the value of your investment will be not in your hand the success is not depend on your work you need to be very lucky every time.

I am surprised to know anyone can think this way. Does that not sound really dumb? Attributing good to nature and calling for divine help when there is trouble, if there is a divine help in trouble, why not also call that to win instead of depending on nature.

It shows the extent to which some gamblers can go with the game, I think gambling can actually get some people confused especially when played with too much desperation instead of doing it for fun. Well gambling for me is strictly a game of strategy. You can’t enter into a football pitch without knowing how to play, no matter how healthy you look, that’s the same thing with gambling, no matter how lucky you think you are, you need strategy to win the game.

Compulsive gamblers can do anything  and I won’t be surprised if they suddenly change from atheist to been theist but the normal gambling does not have any relationship with religion. It’s a game of fun that should be played without stress or pressure. The reason the poster suddenly depend on help from God to win might probably be because something huge is at stake which is not supposed to be so.

I think if a little amount of money is used in playing there won’t be fear of losing or divine help required to win and the game would be more pleasurable. Gambling is a game of entertainment, so in my opinion religion should not come into the game.

Dan expected things are easily happened in gambling if it is possibly going your life will be totally changed it and you will be a a very rich person in one gambling but if it was negative you will be going to enter in your life and it will give so much pressure in your normal and personal life

An atheist does not have to make gambling a reason to find God. Gambling is random and you might win or loose at different times. Talking about the signs of the presence of God, wee there is a great universe out there and if an atheist is able to see the signs of God in His creation, he would no doubt think over the presence of God. If a mere win after loosing multiple games in gambling can make a mind hold God responsible for the win, why not the universe and the signs laid in it? It is all about beliefs and your research and knowledge. Research about it.

I guess I can see how someone might see a miracle in the growth of a plant or the wonder of space. But I am completely baffled at how one might reconcile religion and math.  Mathematics is pure logic and has no room for belief at all.  It is completely predictable and provably knowable. So if you think God is going to make one plus one equal three, then you don't know God or math. 

too far illustrates a gambling game. belief in God is too not worth the confidence when we win the gambling game. I think we should just consider gambling as an entertainment so we don't imagine many things. Think of gambling as an entertainment so you will be comfortable doing whatever gambling game you do.

OP came to that point that he's desperate to ask God to give him luck.

And by chance, he was able to get what he wanted.

I don't think it makes them believe in God though some really do believe in God but for an atheist to suddenly call on God just to win, I call it clinging to something sharp for their personal interests. Anyway I don't believe that atheists do not believe in God, in their heart they know there is a supreme being out there but they choose to convince themselves there isn't.

God will not related if you have big lose or big win. I tried to pray to god I hope I win this today but I realize better to not pray for god if we are playing gambling Im not saying gambling is bad but for me is not good if we are praying to win don't pray if you wish to win to gambling because maybe god will not going to accept your prayer.

I don't think it's true it's just a coincidence, God had a special way to make his presence to his children but never in gambling we must not think that God will help us win gambling it's against his teaching and we all know religious organizations are forbidding his members participating in gambling activities.

I guess that in every religion, gambling is prohibited, but we (human) seems to forget that it's prohibited and we still playing gambling. But maybe for the atheist, they can turn to theist if they can think about the danger of playing gambling, and in the long-term, it will ruin their life and will lose the money.

Just heard someone pray for gambling  ;D. But actually it is ok because people can pray and do something and maybe hope for luck is good to do too. Since gambling is type of game that need luck to win it.

For me religion was just a guidance for everybody who seek the purpose of life, in accordance of knowing God. We can't judge those people who played gambling because, not all those who involved themselves in gambling is a bad person. Just like on those who go to church or not, some people attending daily church still commit evil doings compared to none goers.

Let every person do their will of life, and as long as you've played gambling without compromising other peoples lives then nothing's wrong with that. It depends on a situation if an atheist or religious individual will have some superstitious reference on the way they play gambling, that's freedom of perspectives.

I agree on you bro . gambling is about luck and we pray so that we can increase our chances of having a luck but the guy above you is also correct that its bad to pray for god just because you wanted a luck to win on a gambling game  . i did tried several times but i can say that it doesnt allow me to won on a gambling game  .  maybe god really sees it as a bad activity  . ? Hmmmm ?

God only gives us an oppunity like for example a job or if theres a vacant job because you ask for it  . though you still need to work hard and try your best to get accepted and to be able to work properly .

Lol. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in god, satan and any other deities and what can only change their minds are actual evidences that these personslities actually do exist. Gambling has no evidence to provide. At all. It's easier to convert a theist to an atheist than the other way around.

No i dont believe god will help you win, but there was sometimes i prayed to win my bet but those are the desperate times, i don't usually pray for my bet to win, it happened only because i lost a big sum at that time and hoping to get it back.

I agree, if you're an atheist then gambling can make your belief in satan or against God turn to worst IMO because usually those who gets addicted in gambling are losing their ways.

Gambling is about luck, you can seek for guidance or motivation to God but it cant promise you to win the game hence if you're going to gamble better to prepare for the worse instead of winning so it wont hurt you that much.

If you relate gambling with religious point of view, then you know atheist has no religion and he don't pray to God, and about superstitious, it is just like judgement, you can called we judge and guess which bet will win.
Actually you asked a deeply question, but as long as i think, gambling is a game, if you compare gambling with other games then you will never ask it. 

No changes that will happen, as there's no hope if the results will turned into a losing one, whatever you desire if fate will never allow you, it won't change
the outcome, praying or hoping that whoever god you believe in will grant your request is just an illusion inside your mind.

So atheist gambler just need to pray and beg to win and then he will become a Christian?😂

No i dont think they will,unless the person involved is not totalan atheist instead he was only feeling atheist for being cool and followers but in hies heart still believing the superstition things

A lot of people or player who pray for them to win when they play gambling which is wrong because god will not related of we are doing and they will not blessed us once we pray to win. Maybe try your best to win instead of praying to win in gambling.

there is nothing wrong on believing  . for those who believe on god like me , we will always pray at all times even if we dont play gambling so that we can be safe from any harm .  i can say to my self that it work for me because im still blessed  . there was alot of good things that happen to me lately   .however when it comes to gambling id say that im still a bad luck because i do rarely win no matter what prayers i do  .

I think it can make any of us pray but it can't change a person's belief. God doesn't even support gambling so no matter how hard we pray I don't think that God could grant what we want. We could play through luck and see what goes around but you could hear gamblers pray unintentionally believing that God could make them win the game.

Such thing won't happen as stated, gambling is all about luck. Apart from this some get into superstitious beliefs, but those superstitious beliefs doesn't give any winning. All that happens is just the coincidence and people relate it the superstition. This way atheist isn't gonna get changed to theist for this simple things. Being an atheist has got lot of information behind it.

I can't deny that I also pray to win, but I believe winning in gambling is only based on chances and luck.
There's no certain things that would make us stable in winning if we gambling in a luck based games, and even if we are too lucky, eventually
we will run out of luck. Sometimes this kind of belief will just makes us frustrated as losing is inevitable in gambling, so it's better to be realistic all the time.

I don't want to discuss the religious aspect but gambling tends to make people superstitious.  This is a very common thing that people will do once they hit a winning streak and they try to repeat the results.  I've read a lot of professional athletes do the same thing such as having a lucky necklace or lucky shirt.

It is right, but our point here is when pray at gambling.  ;D Because i don't know how it is in other religion, but in my religion, gambling is a sin. And pray for gambling is actually something that people can't do.

I don't see any solid logic behind this argument. I am a religious person (Hindu), but I have a number of atheist friends. I would say that in case an atheist wins a big jackpot, then he is more likely to thank his skills than attributing it to the god. And one more thing... being a theist doesn't mean that one needs to be superstitious. And you can find superstitious people among the atheists as well.

No need to point out any religion bro. it is not good for healthy community. I hope OP might have create this thread at political and society child board. Actually all have luck factor is there in atheist point of view also.

Many business are start with the belief of own and luck factor also needs to do there. How come we can say atheist does not have that luck factor.

I come from strong religious background so, I believe in God even before I started gambling. I don't think it has any influence in my gambling life anyway. Generally, most of the people shows an inclination to God when they have a breakdown. I guess this is the reason why you asked this question. So, its not about gambling its all about fear and stress as we encounter a problem.

Religious aspects have never been connected to gambling and as said people would only call for God when they do lose out but not literally for those people who are atheist will have always the chance to called out
God on that time.Its possible but i doubt that wont really be enough to consider to say that turning atheist into God-fearing creature.

I think it was chance also. Heck, I don't believe in a God and yet she keeps rewarding my irreverence with money. 
 :D

That's true, and it's necessary that we should remain realistic in gambling as we are facing real risk.
A risk that could make us loss more than we can afford to lose, and we cannot call God on that to help us since it's us alone that are making decision in gambling. God is everywhere, for us who believe in God we are thankful if we win, but should not blame God if we loss since losing is possible.

You are talking about a case when they win, atheist win always attribute winnings to skills, and luck but they can be superstitious in a tensed situation especially in gambling, I think this is the whole context of this argument.

I also have a number of them as friends and I have witnesses how they can act contrary to their beliefs in gambling and I totally understand that this is due to tension not necessarily that they do not know what the belief is all about. Gambling is just a game that can make you go against your own belief during playing,  but it’s still just the game.

That's good for you.

 :)

Yes, it's also a chance but a coincidence that he asked help from above and he got it.

For me,gambling is a total opposite from the will of God so if we lose or win from gambling,God has nothing to do with it.We are responsible for the things we do as much as we are responsible too for whatever circumstances it bring.I think gambling is not enough to make an atheist call for God.

Staying realistic in gambling is easier said than done mate. I don’t think you have ever faced the tension of losing big amount of money in gambling, You will be so confused at that moment that you automatically become religious. I am just talking from experience. Like you have advised not to gamble what we cannot afford to loose, that’s actually a good advice and I everyone should always have this at the back of the mind. And if at all a gamer decides to take risk, he should be ready to bear the consequences that comes with

I don't think that being an aitheist or a believer connected in gambling. Yes, sometimes I tend to pray to God for me to win my gambles. But even so, I still don't win some games. You wanna know why? Because it is not connected to your religion.

The tension that comes with gambling can change anyone from religion if not careful.
Just imagine when playing with huge money and you see that money at stake, you will call any God available at that moment for help.

I remember one time I was at a gambling center and the guy beside me who was an atheist kept on screaming oh help me God to win this game, it was really serious and then at the end of the game he felt relieved. Asking him how he won, he claimed he was just lucky.

I think the tension has a way of making any gambler believing in whatever power that can help at that moment.

You are saying the fear of losing big money made you changed your mind and adopted a religion? What on earth did happen to you to change a sudden course like that. What was the religion you chose? I bet it was some religion who prohibits you from gambling. That way not only fear stops you from gambling again but also the fear of God. Things like that are possible somehow, the state that you are now proves that. Even criminals have changed for the good because of fear of losing their heads if they continue to do bad things. The difference only is that your's is money and them are their lives or for the sake of the family.

What's the difference between someone who prays in a Church, and someone who prays in a casino? The person who is praying in the casino really really means it :) To some extent that's true. I've asked God to help me win this last time so I can go home, or to help me recover my loss, etc. I've even seen an old lady gently rub and talk to the slot machine before each spin, hoping that the slot machine will make her win this time. It's very sad. I haven't set foot in a casino in over a year, and don't miss it one single bit.

My general opinion is play gambling for just fun and relaxation do not ask to god about this because god hate gamble because in the bible they say gambling is the sin. But as people and they want to enjoy and use extra money theres nothing wrong with playing gambling i advise aleays set selfcontrol to avoid addiction.

Those who are more attached to the religion will surely pray from the God that they win in gambling. If you have no attachment to religion then ofcourse you will not think in this way. In few religions Gambling is prohibited, so those people should avoid gambling in the first place.

How can that be our God do not want his people to become miserable if you become a compulsive gambler and your life's become miserable then you have God to blame, it's just pure luck because that forms of gambling you are playing relies on pure luck nothing more.

That would be stupid since you're immersing yourself into a game of probabilities. Can't really blame God for it because you know the conditions beforehand. Also according to what i know about the bible, God hates quick riches, they tend to be worse than poverty for the soul of a man. At least that's what it says, i don't have the knowledge of all things.

Being thankful can be pretty good for everyone, what if you help the poor with a bit of it and end up with a better relationship with God? Just for when a more important situation comes. And it has to be done constantly, if you do it by % it's a lot better.

People tend to look for God when everything else is lost and it shouldn't be that way. Being loyal goes a long way.

Well, this is strange that in case of a win people say that this is due to our good luck and our strategy but in case of a loss we put all the blame to god and religion. This should not be the case. You know the good and bad effects of gambling already.

Gambling is only depends upon luck and there is not such superstitious which may cause you win. Some people believe that wearing such color clothes or doing gambling at certain day of week or time may result in good luck and win. These are just false beliefs and have no real existence.

LOL, probably they can call their stupid god like casting bad words when gets loss or it could be also calling the real god when things gets good or bad. It will just depend on the scenario.

But, I do not really believe atheist has no God at all. They just deny the religion but no one could not feel a high beings with super powers that created the world and the human beings on this earth.

Yes. It is normal for everyone to call on what they believe in a tensed situation, this is the reason why many religious people would always call on God. No big deal with this, I even see it as one fun aspect in gambling. I laugh really hard, most of the times I see religious gamblers at my casino center and I try to relate what they are going through. Well, like you have rightly said, those whose religion is against gambling should not be in the game to avoid too many contradictions.

The first statement was right, it's all depends in the situations where you are in place, calling god to help you by doing a sinful act very funny, when you win you'll be thankful but if you lose then you will assume to yourself that there's no existence of such being and you will keep denying it inside of you, mentioning being atheist, maybe it's normal to say that you probably looking for someone to blame if things will not favors you.

For those who believe in God they must also know that God does not approve gambling so if you still do and pray and you win, I don’t think God made it happen. It happened because of chance but no God’s will involved there, that is only in preparation for your incoming loses.

If you gamble for fun, that it should be ok with any religion.
Paying some money for entertainment is a good idea.
We in casinos believe that we provide entertainment for people. And we do charge for it.
Sometimes when you look at random outcomes it looks like you understand the nature of the game.
It looks like you have got the understanding how random works.
You feel the intuition that tells you what to do, you listen to the voice of God or Devil who knows.
Please be aware that all that is a part of entertainment casinos offer and charge for it.

It's an odd way for an atheist to beleive in God thru gambling. I believe that it can make you believe in superstition because each gamblers have their own beliefs on whether how and what is lucky for them.

Yeah! That was weird. but you know what? it really do happen sometimes even how degree of being an atheist you are (IMO). Actually I have an atheist friend, he is smart and only based his principles of reasoning on what science can offer to us; he possess the most common trait of an atheist. But one day, I was shocked when he told me to pray for him while we are walking on our way home, he ask for it because he is currently having a big problem with his academics due from being a lazy student. At first I laugh so hard after hearing those words coming from his lips and realized that devil's horns also break and may also replaced by a halo lol.

if he, an atheist which only struggling with his academic problems, think of God somehow then what more for a gambler who is now losing everything he had or a gambler who is wishing for a life-changing bet (just for example).  

It’s quite natural for humans to believe in their god either they are happy or sad. But yes you are right, when we have bad times, we return ourselves to God because we know we are helpless and their materialistic world isn’t working for me. But if someone thinks gambling can turn him to God, well that is good, but unluckily it doesn’t happen mostly. Exceptional cases exists but this isn’t normal practice.

Sometimes when I am bored I like to hop into the chat of the SofaScore app and just have a laugh at all the 'believers in God' there lol  ;D
People come up with all kind of bullshit excuses for their losing sprees lol

I Think you have the best opinion and it summarizes it all up. It’s  very good to gamble and have all the fun from the game, But it is all shade of wrong to commit big money into gambling with the intention of getting it back and then start calling God for intervention in it, which we know that it is a game of luck and not a game of GOD.

God has already created the game for fun but it is man that made is difficult by making it full of rush because of the introduction of huge money to play, greed is what makes us use big money to play something that we term as fun game.

Highly irrational, but every gambler I have ever known has some kind of superstitious belief like these and it has even become a cliche in movies that gamblers are a superstitious lot.  But it's true.

It isn't uncommon to reach out to a higher power in times of crisis, even if you had no previous spiritual inclinations.  Seems to be part of human nature, embedded in our genes.  But no I myself am not religious or even very spiritual and I don't have mystical or magical beliefs.  Not even at the craps table.

It's not going to turn an atheist into a theist. It's either a complete probability or a fraudulent operator.
The god has nothing to do with it. You can't just expect the god be turning dices to your sides when he/she/it is helpless to protect the innocents.

Which god are you referring to though? There are probably over a thousands gods out there and if any of those even exist, i doubt they'd give a damn about petty humans gambling lol. I know quite a few atheists and most of them are pretty religious before realizing a few things so i doubt that gambling would provide enough reason for them to go back.

Gambling is completely on luck and strategy relative to the game. Gambling doesn't have anything to do with the atheist, some people used to relate the superstition with gambling when they make a winning. This way superstitious beliefs still prevail with gambling and there isn't anything with the atheist.

Completely right, the supertitious belief was still there in gambler. Just like not giving tip while you are on a gamble because that will lead you from serious losses, that superstitious belief still alive and one of my relative telling me that way. Meanwhile, we can't conclude that superstitious belief will effectively since we are now in modern civilization.

I admit i also have my superstitious beliefs when i gamble.And i think this tradition has started already even in the time of our ancestors.But i don't really believe that whenever you lose in gambling,God is there to make you win.Gambling is not accepted in His will and so gamblers are not even tolerated by God.

In my view, we should not involve God in gambling, if we do read religious then we will see God not allow to play gambling, it is sin in many religious.
But an atheist he doesn't care about these matter in life even it is gambling or not.
And superstitious people they are always confused to do everything and in the end they will say if we don't do it then may be we will win. However in short, i will not rely in all these type of matters, and i suggest play gambling for yourself, and not try to involve them.

Yes, that will be good advice for people who are seeing gambling from the religion side, and they should not involve in the gambling games.
I don't think that an atheist could turn to theist and superstitious because sometimes an atheist makes a decision using knowledge.
But we know that everything could happen and could change person to become someone else and only time will tell.

I am 100% agree that God and religion should not be blamed for any loss in gambling. God is the one who is in control of everything.
The superstitious beliefs are too old and i really shock that people living the current era still belief on things happenings on the basis of superstitious.

No way! It's not possible anyway. Atheist is about disbelieving god existence, it's not about disbelieving a luck. Lucks and hopes are still around their lives. That means without god, they can still having luck and hoping the best for their life.

One thing about the power of the mind is that whatever you set your mind heart is what goes with you, if a gambler believes in his heart that a pen will make him win, then it will happen, but naturally, God doesn’t have hand in such things, it is just a superstition, it is whatever they believe in their heart gets attracted to them.

This what is called law of attraction, if the mindset is strong about a winning and the believe is their 100% that such gambler will be successful, then he will be, if he doubts his winning, it is obvious that he might not win, but gambling is just strictly a game of luck and luck comes to us when we believe it in our heart.

There are really things which would really be possible to have that kind of positive thinking will really affect things on what he's doing but this is excluding gambling.God has really nothing to do with gambling yet all chances are random on each person and theres no thing that can affect to raise up chances anytime.So,its an impossible thing and making beliefs make a U-turn seems not too easy because losing in gambling
wont really be that enough for them to be come theist and superstitious because they do lose.

Why do you think it’s not possible ? This is gambling, where impossibility can become possible. At difficult situations, there are so many atheists that can easily admit the supremacy of God. It’s possible they do it out of anxiety buy yes they do.

I know they always trust their luck to win or believe most of their winnings are based on skill but, when the game is ongoing, they will know that an extra power is needed to win. I have experience with a lot of atheist both in gambling world and outside and, I know that it is possible because I have seen instances where they call on God for help in times of needs.

Yes, the very best advice for religious people would be for them, to stay off gambling completely. The game is not meant for religious people and I don’t even think there is any religion that supports gambling. If any atheist decides to become theist or becomes superstitious that his personality and it has nothing to do with the game or religion.

I’ve been gambling for quit a long time, I’ve won little and I’ve lost even more and if there is anyone whom the game could change, am sure it would have been me but I chose to remain who I am.

It will depend on the individual. One could believe in God especially if there are things that happen like a miracle or an unexpected things that favored to that individual. This might change their beliefs that there were really a superhuman being that created the universe. A simple question were still difficult to answer until now and that is " How Universe Exist, What is the reason why it exist, who made the universe and etc. Science could still not prove this and put their studies into theory and nothing else.

Law of attraction does not work with gambling, if it does am sure everyone would be a winner because everyone entered gambling with a positive mindset.

I remember few years ago after reading a book titled the power of positive thinking by Normal Vincent peale, it was really strong in my heart that I thought I could apply it to gambling, I saw myself winning all my games. But, I was really disappointed after playing because, I was very confident that I had all the right mindset to winning the game. Skills are the best and only strategy for winning in gambling.

I think that you could connect gambling with your believes in a way if you want. See there is something called luck. In statistics, we call it randomness and from a religion point of view, it is called the assistance of God. See if you do not believe in luck or randomness, the only option left to you is the one which links your gambling activities with the religion. In addition, you could read books over the topic to explore the right answers.

I am sure God keeps an eye on all the gamblers and helps them win money. It is on top of his to-do list slightly below thoughts and prayers for victims of natural disasters. If you prayed and God didn't help you with your bets it means that some other gamblers were louder in their prayers and God simply favoured them over you. 

I hope you like irony.

Not really. It still depends on the person, you know. I know there are lots of theist gamblers but that doesn't make them involve God in their game so that they wouldn't have to blame the Supreme Being for not allowing them win that day. I'm a theist as well but I think gambling is more of a game of chance. If I win, then praise God. If I lose, still, thank God. In your case, maybe you aren't that athiest after all. Maybe your core belief remains as a believer of God.

Very sarcastic lol. I don’t know what gambling has to do with God. Just take God out of gambling and concentrate on the game, pray for luck and work on your skill. Winning gambling takes a lot of effort and hard work.

I have tried as much as I can to keep religion out of gambling and ill implore every player to do same. Prayers do not make people win, neither does miracle happen, it’s all a game of strategy. Look for the strategies required for your game, spend more time in learning and you with time you will become a professional in gambling. The question of how gambling can turn an atheist to theist, I would say that it Is absolutely impossible.

First of, it's good that you are on the way of overcoming your addiction. Good job! Keep it up!

As for believing in God or some power that can help you win, you said it yourself, it only makes your addiction worse. If you want your gambling experience was a positive one, then don't rely on some mystic power, but rather rely on math. Divide your yearly income by 365, and then divide the result by 50. That's what you can afford to lose in one day to gambling.

If your yearly income is X, then you shouldn't risk more than X/(365x50) in one day, if you gamble every day. But if you gamble once per month, then you can afford risking 30 times more than that, and so on.

I think God does not associate himself with gambling, he doesn't see gambling as a source that can lead you to serve him. This was demonstrated in the synagogue where He destroyed the gambling going on in the church. I hope we all know this story.

Good point, why calling something that you don't believe in the first place, maybe if you this you still have inside your minds, the believe that there's really
someone's above, but int terms of gambling, even there's somebody there it won't change anything, it's luck who will bring you profits in terms of gambling nothing else.

I do believe in god but i don’t think god has something to do with you winning or losing gambling. Just like you said, winning or losing in gambiling is more on mathematical and luck.

There are still some people who worship god before betting to increase their luck which their belief but we don't know it helped to win that bet or not just a belief so let the things to do what we like before betting will give some self confidence.

Belief is something that comes from the heart and I think it makes you stronger and prepares you mentally to tackle any challenge. It is kind of mindset that enables you embark upon a path that otherwise you would never dare to step on. But I think that if someone needs reasons to see if God exists, there are so many signs in the universe that could be taken into account and could be studied about which might help.

I agree, because prayer is the important before anything else, and its important and you will given chances to win. But if you believe only on superstitious its impossible for you to win, and just lose your money until you will become addicted. 

God will never help anyone to become addicted to gambling, he knows that once a person becomes addicted to gambling his life will be a ruin, you are winning because you have a good run of luck, nothing more than that, God has nothing to do with it, so don't attach it to anything religion.

Yes, God will never make an user get into addiction. For me superstitious believes were just a way of coincidence, because people used to relate the winning with superstition and when lost it is termed just a loss. There is nothing more than God, and nothing needs to be related to religion or God in any aspect as people have difference of opinion in each and everything.

People would really have that high chance on tagging up Divine things either if they are losing or winning.As you speak it has nothing to do with God when it comes to winning
or asking help because you are already losing money.It is just part of natural instinct of human being on calling or believing into something that it do affects its chances while playing gambling.

Changing belief will be easy for deist people but I doubt true God believers will think about changing religion due to non-expected game outcome in gambling. It should be indicator of a serious disaster to accept mentioned turning point. Winnings and losing only affect to my emotions and deep pocket only let me to play few more hours, no more or less.

I do agree.There is no God that will allow his child to be a slave in gambling so He will really find ways to make his child get rid of gambling.Gambling is purely based on luck and so if a gambler happens to win consecutively,he is just lucky that time.Luck may not come the next day so he might lose when he tries to gamble again.

Prayers will be useless. God is against gambling. This makes me think that maybe God never help me win the game and make me realize that gambling is not healthy in our lives. We play with money involved and that we only rely on pure "luck" not the help of anyone especially not with the help of God. We can seek help from him in different ways like seeking how we can actually recuperate from addiction, from deppresions and from frustrations.

That might be true. Perhaps, GOD wants to show you that playing gambling doesn't make you rich and you should know that. It is better to do something else to get rich and don't risk much money in gambling. The luck is not related to any religion as many others said and gambling is depending on luck, and that is why only a few people who can be rich from gambling. So before we ruin our lives, we need to think seriously about the risk of playing gambling, and we must prevent ourselves from becoming addicting to gambling.

Well, I don't really know but from where you said that you got addicted to gambling, so I'm guessing that maybe God doesn't want you to be addicted to be gambling, cause according to the Bible, one of the fruits of the spirit is having self control. So if gambling is controlling and you're becoming addicted to it, then it's very bad. And I don't even know if gambling is what we as children of God are meant to be part of, though there is no place the Bible stated exactly that you shouldn't be a gambler, but… There are some parts in the bibles that states things that are similar to that.

It is because there is no fast and easy money. This should always instill to one's mind and to not to believe in good offers like investment scheme to which it will double your money in just a short period of time or gambling platforms that offers jackpot and will let one win in the lottery process. As a piece of advise it is better to play games in an online bitcoin casino where one can win and lose rather than having a betting platform that will let you see that one win but in reality they are just bots.

I believe that athiest will not ever entertain gambling because the time that you made your first step inside is that you are already believing that you are lucky or that you have something lucky. It can also go beyond like you will call any deity, god or saint that they say miraculous or can give you luck. I remember when I'm in a heat of a game and I just continue to mumble the name of the Lord.

You mean winning ?  Winning is not really an unbelievable thing  . it can happen to anyone whether they believe on their self that they can win or not  .

That scenario is a different story because that was his own fault .  that is not an unexpected event   .

I think this will depend on the gambler  . in my case i do believe on luck and other beliefs  while others are not , they are only playing normally   .

Well, in my own opinion as I believe in God and his ability he can do it if he wants you to win but think about it gambling makes people worst it can turn them into something they never expected. God will never allowed a person abuse his own life because of gambling if He sees that you will become a worsted person in gambling then he will never allowed you to win but you will ended up lose to learn something.

That's just part of yourself which trying to hold to something even there's no real changes that will happen aside from luck that will permit you
to win over this gambling activities that you are inside, better to enjoy instead of trying to believe in something that never exist.

If you asked a religious person he'll definitely say no, God forbid his children to engage in gambling and all religious groups agreed that gambling has no part in your belief in God, it's just your alibi for you to continue to gamble, take another reason don't include God on gambling.

Aside religion, most moralist do not even belief in gambling and people would always give reasons why it is against their religion or belief but whatever it is those of us who do this for business do not attach it to belief or religion. As long as you don’t attach your other businesses to any form of belief, I do not see any reason why it should be.

In my opinion, I would say that  gambling does not change a person, an can never be against anyone’s religion, when gambling we do not even remember our religious belief, all we care all that moment is to win and that is all that matters.

No, I don't think about good to help me out to win an any gambling. I just think of some luck to favor me and just avoid being hooked up or addicted to it in order to enjoy gambling.

In all religious God not allow to play gambling, even i read about gambling, it is sin. Hence we should not involve God in gambling.
And the second point is we could rich from gambling or not. I never see a single luckiest gambler in my life who has been rich from gambling. So in both points of view, we should clear our mind, that if we wanna play gambling, then simple we play it and don't involve other things in it.

This is probably the funniest thing I have read today. No offense but I have not heard of an atheist turning to theist before because of gambling. I only of of non-religious turning religious when they lose.

Actually fun fact, people start to pray so they can win in gambling. Actually it is their rights, but other people will see it as funny thing. It is better to do what you said and even lose, don't much think about it.

Gambling is a game that is most of the time base on luck and being lucky doesn’t means it’s because God want us to be lucky, same goes to people who aren’t lucky in gambling - is it fair to say that it’s God who made those people unlucky? I don’t think so. Gambling and religion are two different things and I don’t see any relation to them so wether the atheist will gamble they will not think of God because in the first place atheist don’t believe in God. If an atheist person will gamble and win they will not say thanks to god because normally they would think they are lucky so to answer your question I don’t think gambling has any impact to atheist players in becoming theist.

Yes. God would really forbid all those acts that includes gambling. It will never be a reason that if you happened to win in gambling, God is behind you. Remember that God considers gambling as a sin so He would never do some actions that will tolerate his children to become gamblers.

Can't say about atheism and theism as its an individual thing. But people do be superstitious when they get involved in gambling.
I have met people who have their wining clothes and shoes. Some have wining directions to face while gambling and someone has winning partners to be with.

Lol. Why do we need to believe in superstitious belief because of gambling only?

It is religion as magic. Many people tend to be religious entity because they only have temporary needs. A kind of need where they cannot do without the benevolence.

If you are only using God or other forms of Supernaturals, stop gambling. It won't help you.

It's sad for a person to only turn to God because he wants something from him. It's like a friend who only calls you when he wants something from you.

Well explained in a short statement. Whether it is gambling or something else we need to prepare for the excitement as well as for the worse case. Believing God is different, we can pray for a winning, but praying for win with demands is truly a bad thing.

There are real incidents where people used to promise God on doing good things to the one in need on getting things fulfilled which were mostly related to health. The help done to the people in need is done from what he earns after his recovery from his earnings.

The same can't be applied to gambling, and one requesting to give to the poor or the people in need if he wins will lead to failure, and with gambling luck and strategies were the deciding factors, and nothing happens in turning an atheist to theist.

Gambling is in many senses against the religious teachings as here people try to gain more what is not earned by themselves and in meantime lose what they have.
As people lose much, they start to pray and lose more. So they'll have less faith on god but still believes they have chances to win and turns into superstitions.

It is true, when we do start of losing in gambling then we start to pray even we forget it that in many religious gambling is not allow to play it, but we don't care about it and still we do pray, sometime i laugh on it, but it is also funny just like our gambling give us fun. 

Isn't an atheist someone who believes in whatever he sees fit?

Since he doesn't belive in a God, he'll act in any way he believes will benefit him, including showing "fake belief" to a God.
I I wouldn't consider such behavior an act of "becoming theist".

Yes, that is what happened but for me, I have never mixed up the affairs of religion, God or anything else in gambling, because when I gamble it is entirely pure luck that becomes a hope and when I get a loss, then it is a bad luck for me and indeed, in gambling we should not associate religion because it is something different and very sensitive.

Good point, they can do anything they've like since there's nothing impossible for people who wanted to win, they will believe if things will give them
opportunities and even without knowing anything they will praise such if it's possible to provide some winnings.

I am not sure how here thesis and athesis things we can discuss in the name of gambling. mostly this kind of questions has been raised in the beginners and help or political and society child boards.
Whatever matter for every gamblers at least one time lucky jackpot everyone wishes.
If they wish definitely it will change the mentality.

I think gambling takes us away from religion. When people lose , they blame to god and they think that there prayers may not be fulfilled. Although gambling has nothing to do with religion. Also I think the more the person is religious, he would stay away from gambling.

Nah I don't think so… no matter what an atheist experience in gambling, he's still going to say it's all about luck. The thing is that whenever God just wants you to change and you must follow his ways, he just let things that would bring trust into you to come your way. And when those things happen, you wouldn't have to think twice before you start believing in God. So there's nothing like gambling changing an atheist, in your case, I'd say that God just wants you to start believing in him and doesn't want you to perish.

In my opinion, superstitions have never been a clear feature of a believer, atheists are always in a hurry to confront.  The fact is that for a believer who really worships his God, any bad habits are a sin, among which there is excitement.

And to add with this, those gamblers who suddenly turned to being religious or superstitious are only faking it and not doing it by heart. They are only fooling themselves believing that they will be lucky when they suddenly recite all the prayers that they know of just to win the game. So nope, I don't believe such gambler can be a religious one because the truth is, it is against the teachings of whatever his religion he is into.

It doesn't seem very logical and rational. Why he would do that? If he wants you to earn big money, he just need to send you a big amount of money in your bank account or in your bitcoin wallet. No need for him to help you cheating casino games LOL   :D  :P But maybe you are seeing that as tipping for your prayers?

Religions is indeed against gambling but what Op is asking about the superstition when some gamblers use to go in churches to pray for them before going to gambling places
I heard that some cockfight's enthusiasts specially those who handles the chickens are believing in some superstition like rubbing their handkerchief to the saints before the fight .thats why OP asked that an atheist can be a theist because of this

Maybe HE sends the luck to him so he can win that games. Maybe we can say that because HE wants to see what will he do with the money if he wins the game. With winning the game, HE wants to test him, but many of us become greedy when we can win the game, and we want bigger money, so we continue to play. But I don't think that he will believe GOD if he can win in many times

For me, it depends on the level of your faith or belief, especially there are so many religions that have a different point of view. I'm a theist and in our religion, God, would not help you in gambling but might take you to the path of the gambling world to test you or give the answer to your prayers. But like I said it depend on the person, (we all have our own perspective and desires). Gambling is very tricky must of the gamble believe in luck, and some other gamblers don't believe in luck they just prefer to the scientific explanations. :)

That is just for an example, but you are right. GOD doesn't like human make a sin, but that will up to the human. Atheist or not, humans make their own decision about playing gambling and like what you say, that will be luck and strategies that will help human to win the game. But if somehow, we cannot win, then we can consider that the luck is not beside us.

Lol. Atheists are atheists because they don't believe in anything unnatural. If it can't be proven by actual evidence, it's not true. What makes you think anything can make an atheist believe in god? Skeptics will be skeptics until their criteria for what's believable can be met. Failure in gambling is generally due to bad luck or bad money management. If they're skeptic enough to question the existence of god, im sure as hell they won't turn about because of bad luck.

There are various ways God calls someone to believe in Him, from a murderer to being a priest, a prostitute becoming a teacher of the scriptures, and finally, a gambling addict becomes a more religious person like your case.

ps: I don't think betting or gambling is a sin, that makes betting like sin is the effect of betting like theft or fraud from someone who wants to make a bet. cmiiw

I believe they may become superstitious but they won't blame for their descision and luck to god. I'd like to call myself a theist but I don't think god would be caring about making someone win or lose. God gotta have more serious stuff to look into. Gambling, talking about the legit online gambling is just probability. you need luck mostly.

No, I don't believe that some supernatural power will help me win a gambling game.



It has, some gambler find solace in the teachings of god when rock bottom and nowhere else to lean on. I personally have seen someone
became religious after losing everything to gambling (property,family,friends etc..). even though I am not religious my self I am glad that
religion can sometime help a person pick themselves up and start again.

Maths is your own god and saviour in this situation.    Religion is a delusion when people only seek it out begging favour from some greater power, that fallacy in human thought does go back 10,000 years or more but why would a great being ever seek to help us for such petty requests.

The world has a nature and detail to it on every consideration even bets on a roulette wheel but any God can only help those would work towards a solution and ask for guidance.   There is no greater help beyond how people can be great in of themselves, dont beg for anything as its not the path to riches that I've ever seen.
  Gratitude is a great thing to respect, respect every bit of good luck you have in life and you may find more ? Thats the extent of religion I find and the most true I know of.

I think most of the religion, gambling is prohibited so if you belong to that religion, you cannot pray to win in gambling as you are already doing sin if you are playing gambling.
For the rest of the people, who do not believe in the religion, they do not think god exists so they never pray.

Yes, that will not change their perception about GOD because they never believe in GOD. They only think that on that day, they are very lucky so they can win the games. I think if we talk outside of gambling, maybe that person can turn from an atheist into theist because that will touch his feeling and emotion about life. In gambling, we use different feeling and emotion, and that is not related to GOD. But if that person can think for a while about GOD in the gambling place, and he is aware that all of the things he did in the gambling is because of his luck and that luck will come from GOD, maybe he can realize that everything in his life is related to the GOD.

I agree with this. God doesn't want us to gamble so He won't support or help anyone in this. For me it's just luck. Luck is considered a skill, so it's up to the person whether he can win or not in a gambling game. So don't include God in it.


Yes, it depends on the situation. When a gambler reach the rock bottom and see that he is always losing, he will tend to change his perspective in life and there's a possibility that He will turn to God, believe in Him, pray that God will change his perspective, and to start living a better life away from his gambling addiction.

Gambling can change your perception on God but it cannot lead to becoming an atheist as most of the atheist I have come across don't believe in gambling Or are be gamblers.  Not believe in God has nothing to do with gambling as most of them are even philosophers and scientists.

I don't think luck is a skill.  Skill is something you can learn but luck..?  I do not think you can learn it. I think it is more of a wild card in your attribute that triggers when some condition is met.


Not all gambler turned that way, others curse and blames God when his life turns upside down because of gambling.  That is the tendency of most people.  Pointing the blame on others for their misfortune such as losing their entire living in gambling.

Good question. Short and simple answer, no.

I've been an atheist all my life. Know about my history at Do Atheists hate Religion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.0)

And although I have dabbled in gambling from time to time I have had seen no logic for me to suddenly start believing in make-belief stories.

Gambling to me is just a game that I play from time to time and I don't let it become addictive.