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I was perusing another forum today with a long running cryptcurrency thread. To my non amazement they're still debating the nature of the whole thing in the exact same way they were 2-3-4-5 years ago. The same people are waiting to be convinced. The same people are trying to convince them.

This strikes me as a complete and utter waste of calories. I'd rather let people believe what they want. Me convincing them won't help anyone. They're not going to convince me of anything. My attitude is - crypto is here. You may as well sit back and see what happens as nothing I do, say or listen to will change it.

Are you still embroiled in debates with friends and internet creeps or have you let it slide?

Yes, sometimes I do but this is what I believe,
Today or tomorrow they will have it (Bitcoin).

Funny thing is:
They will buy when pick and sell deep LOL

I hope someday we get rid of fiat and bitcoins take over the economy.

I don't try to convince anyone of anything. I never really did. I never wanted to expose my friends and family to the financial risks of investing so I never hyped it up. I've always been pretty open about the fact that I use Bitcoin and trade cryptocurrencies, though.

People I know who are into trading stocks or tracking their retirement funds seem to have a healthy respect for Bitcoin now. That doesn't mean they're buying coins and they may still be on the skeptical side, but they know that markets don't lie. That's one of the reasons I never wanted to waste my energy persuading anyone -- it's all up to the market. If we're headed for mainstream adoption, non-Bitcoiners will eventually see the writing on the wall. There's no need for me to convince them. I'm just enjoying the ride.

I still engage to those people and they think Bitcoin is just for freaks. Well its really hard to convince them specially when money is involved even they are your family and as much as possible I always warned them about the risks of getting involved in cryptocurrency space.

Nope I have quit on convincing them to be on crypto or to use crypto.
Besides they already seen how crypto changed my life I don't need to do something to get them into crypto.
Most of my friends who saw me earning some from faucet and thinks that I am wasting my time on crypto are now asking me about it.
They only want it because they think that it is an easy way to be rich,
And that is the reason I stop because of their idea and they only want to use it to get rich without knowing how to earn.
I told them about trading and they want a more easy way than trading.

Well if they are willing to be educate then you damn right i would share some knowledge about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general but if it is based on some endless arguements then i would just let them be. Sometimes it's best to leave people how to discover something on their own rather then getting it to them.

Pretty much everyone now knows about Bitcoins and they think it's either too risky or either they think that it's some out of the world thing and they will instantly get their investments doubled and they will be able to gain a lot of money fast but I rather like telling them how it works and how it's not something that is rather that complicated but is just like a share market , what they choose to think after that is their side , I don't use much of my brain on that .
But sometimes people here when they post stuff against blockchain and Bitcoins and all , I do get fired up though 🤣

I never bother until someone who himself gets interested and request me to give some explanation. For them I used to show our forum as well used to give the basic idea of what is cryptocurrency and the consequences faced in these days along with the need for such a evolution. Further is their responsibility to learn, make investment, trades or whatever upon their own risk.

They don't have that interest with crypto due to its current situation but when they saw prices goes high, they'll probably be jumping again, same thing happen last 2017. It is just a big shame for them complaining against crypto, they'll never know exactly about it, only they focus on the negative sides which is all about FUDs. Letting them of what they believe?

I just did the same, I gave up. I am not saying that they are not open-minded but what I am saying is that it is really annoying to make them believe that what they are thinking is not true since they have proofs that can prove it. In my case, I am so close from punching that guy on the face but I just thought that I pity them since they don't have this additional income they can have if they just believe me.

I see this when I read mainstream media articles that mention bitcoin. The comments below are still as dumb as they were 5 years ago like: stop writing about this ponzi scheme. Or something like: yes and fake computer money will be worth millions someday.

I sometimes answer when people have real questions or argue about the importance of bitcoin but I ignore trolls who want to ridicule it.

Well, it will depend on what kind of person we are referring to, In my opinion, if you truly Love and have a passion for this kind of technology and you really want others to have that kind of passion just like you do, I will not hesitate and will not get tired in getting involved in a conversation with a people that are criticizing cryptocurrency and bitcoin,

But I am engaging in a manner of appreciation for them and not with Debate, Because if it always ends up in debate you will just make that person piss off and will likely to make an assumption that his thinking was right, I would rather make a good conversation and exchanging of opinion that with a debate, I believe with the right approach we can make a change than slapping them with certain things that we only believed in.   

For most things people have one half formed opinion and they keep it as there's no need to delve any deeper. I'm fine with that. Most of us probably have the same thing about plenty of stuff. It's the ones who've been arguing for years that blow my mind. Many have not advanced one millimetre in all that time.

If after 10 years they have not bothered learning anything, i won't bother teaching them either. If they show some interest, i try to explain it as long as i see them keeping an open mind. There is no point spending so much time, energy and effort with people that are not going to pay attention or even if they do, don't thank you properly later. Had enough of that already...

So for me its more or less the same thing as you do.

Yes, I will still engage those non-bitcoiners to be part of our community because I know it will be more essential to them to learn about bitcoin. I have a lot of people that I teach about bitcoin and I'm not bothering to teach them again if they want to. All of those people that will show interest in bitcoin, I will give them the idea and knowledge that they need. Definitely, only the basic ones they should learn and the rest is by exploring the community.

I'm done convincing people, specially when people I talked who's mind are very closed regarding bitcoin. You will hear arguments like it's not real money, ponzi and stuff like that.

So I just keep quiet and never engage them in any argument after that. And up to this day, they still thinks that I'm somewhat crazy on dabbing myself on crypto, but then ask the questions where I get the money when I gamble, lol, and when I told them "bitcoin", they just shake their heads.

i am following another bitcoin related topic in another forum but i only get involved when someone is making a bad technical mistake and is telling others to do the same. for example there was this thing where they were using blockchain.info and thought it is the wallet for bitcoin as PayPal.com is the wallet for PayPal dollars!

but as far as discussions about bitcoin future goes and the naysayers i don't get involved anymore because anybody who is still in that topic and is still negative about it is either trolling or lying. there is no way someone finds bitcoin that bad and still sticks around and passionately spreads FUD about it.

Well, I don't bother debating with naysayers and non-crypto believers. It's a waste of time since most of them are not open to changes and what is coming. Let them be left behind, we all know that bitcoin is here and it will stay. Do no bother spreading crypto to people who are not interested on the first place, if they are interested they will ask and approach for help and information.

Which non-bitcoiners? Altcoiners or common people?
For altcoiners, I still engage in the discussion on why they should put more weight in bitcoin, not altcoin. However, for the people outside of the cryptocurrency community, I do not want to shill them into buying bitcoin since it is a high-risk investment. I only explain about the technology when they ask me about it.

No don't force them.  I try to offer it as an option.   If someone wants to buy my stuff I ask for bitcoin.   Eventually you get people to use it.   Worse case is just not selling at all but again your going to keep trying until you get one person curious about bitocin.   I let bitcoin be an alternative option when it comes to money transfer.

If you force them it will lead into heated arguments and would never use it at all.

I still try to make people adopt bitcoin, even now that bitcoiners morale is a bit low... It's very common to praise bitcoin and hear a negative reply back, because the low value compared to the maximum price already reached out.
Well, then I don't have many arguments against it, as I know on the practice it has a lot of impact on peoples minds, price and stability is everything for the ordinary citizen. But I try to share the message that bitcoin can open a vast new world for its users.

There are only a few open minded people around me, most of them does not have the intelligence to think out of the box.

So I does not try to convince them anymore.

Apparently, there are some people who have the zeal of religious followers and they will not stop until they can convince unbelievers into their side. This is unnecessary and can even make Bitcoin cheap and maybe even cultist. The best thing to do is just refer people to different sources of reliable information and give the person the freedom if he wants to join the Bitcoin bandwagon or maybe decide things later. Sure, this means that there will be slow growth but if it is steady and solid then we have nothing to worry about. This is not a recruitment program, anyway.

I always going to explain for the one that want to listen, I won't bother to try to convince anyone anymore, they already see how they can get profit by only holding it, and Japan already start to adopt, many countries already start to study crypto, so if they not interested then its their lost

everyday, I yell it in the streets as I walk past the 10 banks LOL

I can't say there are a lot of people I talk to about it. I will however have a conversation about Bitcoin with anyone who wants to. After first getting involved, I had a 67 year old coworker who had next to no use for anything new with tech. We did talk about it a lot though as I spent an abundance of time on the forum as well as anything involving my home mine. He though tit was interesting but couldn't see any utility apart from a store of value like silver.

Thought of that as a win, considering he didn't online shop or buy anything not in person.

From that I had a few discussions with people at work around mining and some of the ways I was able to use BTC. A few friends have been interested in using some older miners to heat out-building and other non occupied spaces in the winter.

I don't tell people to put there money in though, I only want to share what I know about it and how I use it. The rest is for them to decide. I did caution people not to buy in when things were in FOMO, kind of said maybe wait a bit this has been a crazy run, see how things shake out. Even then it was just a discussion about it.

I wouldn't be able to stand having the same discussion over and over as I'm not here to convince anyone. I do like when people bring it up again though and seem to be more interested. I have an uncle who at first couldn't be bothered to hear anything about mining or BTC, asking a lot of questions with a genuine interest in the process. Still not interested in getting involved but has a peaked interest.

I used to do it but not anymore.
it has reached a point where it is a waste of time to argue with these certain types of people. not because of what they say and not because of their lack of understanding but only because of lack of want of understanding. they simply don't want to change their mind and they are absurd enough to want to force their false opinions on other people too! I  never waste my time with this group.
of course there are times when someone is seriously misled by that first group and needs to be clarified on some reality in which case I try to enlighten them to the best of my knowledge because I believe that you have to spread the knowledge that you have even if it is small.

I just don't think convincing them with all our might will allow them to change what they firmly believe in if they don't have any intention to be convinced. We'll just be wasting our energy. Just like I always say, people have different perspective on things. I think we have already done our part of explaining to them the capabilities of bitcoin. If they don't want to be convinced, then so be it. As long as I know that bitcoin is real and is really here, I don't have to explain my belief furthermore. I'll just sit tight and wait for them to be convinced. Then eventually, I can tell them, "I told you so."

I do not debate those that do not believe in Bitcoin. Talking to this category of people is useless. I only talk and encourage those that have interest in the cryptocurrency. I will not want people to  invest in Bitcoin  because I talked them into it and if they lose their investment they end up blaming me.

Absolutely not. I will not convince someone to invest in a market that is so hyper-volatile and risky, because when they get shaken out during bear markets, it's a bad feeling to know you played a role in getting them involved. If I am approached, I'll answer questions as best as I can. But I make it clear this market is not for most people.

It took me much efforts to convinced  two colleagues  of mine on the need to adopt  cryptos luckily one of them bought some bitcoin for a trial in December last year when btc was $3400+ surprisingly with the recent pump he sold at $7800 making an reasonable  profits within the span of four months,  this guy was glad and willing  to buy again when the price dump more to it I was able to practicalize how to use and transact  bitcoin thus I won't relent in my efforts to bring in more people  into cryptocurrencies

Agreed. It's a rather sad look by now. Bitcoin itself of course doesn't give a shit, but it makes them look like twats.

I find all these r/bitcoin articles along the lines of 'Azeri man with large eyebrows can't buy misfiring Suzuki because his bank is covered with manure by protesting farmers - Bitcoin user not affected' pathetic.

That is true, I already have seen this before, and it's tough to convince or explain something new to them. They will say no, I don't want to try that thing because I don't have time to learn a new thing or another reason. They keep trying with the usual way without the want to try to do a new thing. But we cannot force them if they don't want to and we could let them choose what they want.

If they are ready to learn then there is nothing wrong in educating them but don't make it look as if you are trying to convince them into investing in cryptocurrency, because when they lose in the cause of they usage they may blame you for that and even term bitcoin a scam.

I really do not debate with friends but they have a general concept about the new market and when ever they plan to invest they used to ask about my opinion and even i messed up big time when there were many scam projects with convincing white papers and good ratings from prominent sites, never imagined everyone is a shill shit review sites who accepts money and write good reviews, lost a lot of money during that phase and so i stopped advising when i had those bitter experience but i last year i was active in another forum site not related to bitcoin but another venture where i am the crypto guru  :D .

that's is really true it's harder to convince people even the family members or friends if talking about money matters  difficult convince them to invest in crypto without showing of evince how earn profits. I agree to give warned before investing in crypto currency  about risk but we need to explain the importance of crypto before they convince to get involve for their awareness.

I give the information what I know about bitcoin, how it can be acquired and how it should be stored.
 Personally I do not give any advice to somebody to buy it or not. I leave that decision on them.

I have tried to convince few offline people's about bitcoin. But it's very difficult task and rather than trust they have criticised me. Actually they are not related with online earning by the way. Even they don't know about classical payment system like PayPal. So it's not possible to explain them about bitcoin. Few are trust about it but they are not encourage to invest or buy bitcoin. They are too afraid about volatility of bitcoin. So whoever affiliated with online earning it's very easy to explain them.

I got convinced by my brother to get involved in cryptocurrency activities. And I told my friends about this website and they also believed that cryptocurrency is also a real thing where you can get money and buy what you want. But after a few months, they got pretty bored and doesn't want to do cryptocurrency related stuff anymore. They don't want to do the process which makes me a little sad. That is why I never tried to convince anyone but when they asked something to me about it I always try to answer their questions.

It reminds me of all those periodical haters that come out of the woodwork every now and then to tell us how we're all suckers for being here and believing in this beanie baby. Those are really interesting specimens and you can usually find them in bitcoin discussion or speculation. They don't waste time going anywhere deeper and take pleasure from stating the obvious, like those people who gather up when there's trouble to make your life more miserable.
"Hey everyone! I haven't been here for a while, but I came to tell you that the price is falling and you better get out or you'll lose money. Bitcoin Is finally dead. I told you last year and I'm telling you now."

I talk to people who don't know anything about it and I often get them intrigued. Last time I was at the dentist she asked me what I do and I told her that I'm heavily invested in crypto and she had no idea, so I told her how it all works, showed her a mobile wallet and so on. Maybe it was just a small talk to make the patient feel better, but she really seemed interested. I rarely talk to people with a negative opinion. Once I hear them repeating some mainstream babble, I change the subject.

I've noticed they've been way, way less prevalent than 2014/15. At certain points during that period every second thread was started by someone like that. At the time it was still possible to believe that it just might be a flash in the pan that could fade away to nothing.

This time around it's been brutal for many, but the idea of that seems that much more remote than it was back then. Even most of them have figured that out now.

Well, I've talked sometimes with my friends (those who are actively involved in stock trading locally) and explained crypto, but haven't tried to convince anyone to get involved with crypto.

Whenever I talked I've found that some of them have limited knowledge about crypto, its due to the restrictions I believe, they need to educate themselves and some afraid to get involved because of the high volatility.

What I can say about them is that the fear is holding them back, but I hope someday it will get change. They don't disrespect bitcoiners at all or talks rubbish which they don't understands, so there is no chance of wasting calories  :D

I'd rather not, I don't want to be at fault if bitcoin crashes and they lose money.  Money can really screw up relationships, its better to let them decide on their own.

I've debated with a few people that were against bitcoin and they did raise a lot of fair points.  Crypto really isn't ready to replace cash anytime soon.

in my opinion, persuading or inviting other people to buy bitcoin can increase the price of bitcoin on the crypto currency market. if we think logically, if more people buy bitcoin then the price of bitcoin can be increased.
at this time bitcoin traders definitely want more buyers so that bitcoin becomes scarce and traders will increase the price of bitcoin, even though the price of bitcoin is increasing but it will not make buyers afraid to buy bticoin because everyone wants bitcoin.
I will continue to persuade people to join crypto currencies so that more and more bitcoin buyers.

Well, i also like to engage in a conversation with such people because it gives me much pleasure to show them the side where they've intentionally shut their eyes to and i love to do that. Personally, I believe anyone who still stands for no-coiner is just a "negative perosna" They jusr wait to see the beauty aspects hehee.

It is difficult to convince those who are not willing to change. i have talked with many of my friends on the matter of adaptation of bitcoins and its future. Almost 50% of them think that bitcoin will not last long and it cannot be the main currency of the world. We cannot change their minds. I mostly ended the conversation that we will see what happen in future and then you will repent that you did not gather bitcoin now when it is quite cheap.

In my case, I didn't bother explaining to someone who have no intention of learning about bitcoin or crypto currency as it is a waste of time only.
But to those people who are curious about what is crypto currency, I give them a little advise on what they are going to do in order to learn more and for them to be satisfied with the answer of their curiosity.

Debates is what I really hate as it is a complete waste of time, saliva and effort just to convince the non bitcoiners to believe about crypto currency.

For me, there are always two kinds of people which is the ones who likes it and the ones who don't. I won't please them or persuade them to look at bitcoin and be an open-minded if they really show a huge dislike at it completely. The only thing that can change their mind is if the entire world is using btc and they have no choice but to adopt it as well.

yes i do  .  i still engage on non bitcoiner people  like example my friend . i still talk about bitcoin on them even if they already refrain from learning bitcoin before because at some point of thier lives they are still curious about the state of bitcoin   .  they ask me sometimes if how much is the current value of bitcoin   .

Introducing something new to someone especially when it is about finances is not something that goes down easy and we cannot give up easily on these people who don't have much knowledge about cryptocurrencies. The key message is that we are to educate them not to argue uncessarily with them. They would have weird perceptions and what we need to do as cryptopreneurs is to help clarify all these misconceptions and not argue with them.

I've learned to let people be with what they want to believe when it comes to crypto. They will never run out of reasons or doubts or negative thoughts about it anyway simply because they've already had their minds set. Sometimes its like talking to a wall. And then they'll bring up the btc "crashes" And the "i told you so's". It gets draining at times trying convince people who don't want to be convinced.

Its kinda tiring talking to people with the same mindset as before but i always gives chance to people who is interested and i also want to share this opportunity to others. I will argue with them once and try to convince them in the most possible ways i could but after that and still they see it as before then they cant be helped.

Many of my friends & relatives still think crypto is a ponzi or a scam. I’ve told them how much money I’ve made out of it (unbanked gains) but they’re still not interested in getting in themselves.

What I hear mostly is ‘what price are you going to sell it all’.

There is no ‘sell it all’ price for me. Crypto (primarily bitcoin) is the future, you’r be an idiot not to invest some fiat in bitcoin, even a little when you can see that the exponiental lifetime trend of bitcoin price is upwards.

Let them continue to doubt, we will all have the last laugh.

I avoid talking much about cryptos because there are still no clear laws in my country so talking about something that is not yet clear at the level of laws can only create headaches for people. For example if I lived in the USA I would talk to many people about bitcoin and that's because USA is a great developed country at the technological level so most people have a high level of technology understanding. But in a poor country like mine where technology is long overdue and laws are too late talking about things like cryptos can create headaches in people.

For me I believe that when someone really wants to know and understand the whole idea and principle behind cryptocurrency and how relevant it is to the entire financial ecosystem, such person will not argue with you just for you to convince him/her to join the crypto system. From my personal experience, I have never try to convince anyone not even my friends to join the crypto space. I just present them with facts relating to the nature and benefits of cryptocurrencies and how they are going to transform our financial ecosystem if we adopt using it in our transactions.

This must be a nonstop debate because the world is still blind about cryptocurrency and most specially bitcoin

While many are still pointing fingers about what cryptocurrency is all about then i believed that we must answer them straight forward and nothing to be stopped

Some of ths people around me still not convinced about the goodness of crypto so i continue telling them and encouraging them to learn and study our community here

I personally never introduce to my friend or family and relatives regarding crypto but they know that I am using on it and do trading also, though they have an idea about stock trading they can relate also in trading with crypto. However, I let them know how successful I am in adopting crypto in my life at it gives financial support especially when the market grows. I explain about how bitcoin it works and how risk if you are going to invest in this but never to convince them that to adopt bitcoin I let them decide by their selves.

I stopped debating on something that is inevitable I just let them feel sorry for not believing early and I'm just waiting to say to them that I told you so, if they do not believe it's ok to me, I don't want to waste my time I still going to make profit, whether they believe or not.

In my working place, many times i have entered into a debate with most of my superior about the future of cryptocurrency but they will never chnage their believe over Bitcoin, so, i changed from debating with them to what they believe. Since then i have never talked about the said Bitcoin with then and will not do till eternity becasue they can't change to believe.

it's much better, many of us waste too much time and energy just telling someone and convincing someone, even though they aren't necessarily interested and even anti to bitcoin, it will be simpler and not bother you if you teach about bitcoin, to people who already really interested to bitcoin.

I am always in debate with some friends who doesn't want to believe bitcoin's capabilities. I'm getting tired convincing then that 'hey, I am using bitcoin and this is real, dude'. They are not that open minded and have traditional attitudes which is very difficult for them to accept new changes like digital payments. Oh well, this is our own affirmation and we can't please everybody.

With regards to people belief, I am inclined to respect them.  I do not see any point of having an argument if after I pointed out several concrete evidence they still cling to their belief.  I agree, that it is only a waste of energy and time.  Whether they are right or wrong it is up to them, same goes with mine since we are responsible for whatever action we have done. 

Yes, that was how someone keep telling me till I said let me give a trial, today we only share discussion on how Bitcoin is going, all you need sometime is better explanation and good manner of discussion

I still talk to some of my friends but I don't really convince them.
Sometime they are rhe one who is asking about crypto and stuff but that's just how it is.
They just want to talk and know about it but doesn't want to try it.

To tell you the truth, it is rather very frustrating to engage in the crypto talk with the non crypto people around you, in one or two occasions, the btc topic will pop amidst conversation and i will find myself trying so hard to educate such people with very little or no success,
but at some point i try to refrain from discussing the topic since they are unconvincing,
For now i only talk about it with very close relatives, even though it is very hard to do ::)

I usually prefer to not involve people who have no knowledge of tech because it can cause more damage than good. So Education is the first step, once they got the basics I will be more likely to feel comfortable to tell them about Cryptocurrencies.

I don't argue with anon-bitcoiner, I just only tell them why I love bitcoin and the place I will be in the future with my constant stay online and unending researches about the bitcoin. Some of them think that bitcoin has expired and it will never go further or they do argue that they are going to invest in something else but never bitcoin. I just tell them, whatever they choose to do is fine, but only remember there was a adviser.

Yes i do. We are Bitcoiner but our lives revolves not only with bitcoin.  I hardly debate but when i do, it’s all about tech. And i don’t engage myself in a nonsense talk. It’s just a waste of time.

Years before, yes but now I do nit alrrady bother and make arguments with them. I will now just prove them that they sre wrong

Somewhere last year I introduced someone to BTC and he was ready to buy huge amouby until he realized that bitcoin has the ability to also decrease to the zeros and it's possible. Now he calls to know whether my shit(That's what he calls bitcoin) is still there and I always laugh at him cos he doesn't know what he's doing. Now I don't even have time to argue with him because his eyes has seen Caanan but his foot will never step there cos I won't I introduce him again.

The most effective way to handle those non-believers are to no engage them at all. The only way to make them what they are missing out is if the government gave the go signal to btc.

Until and unless you won't allow non Bitcoiners, then how come you expect the community will grow and also giving the chance to a newbie is also a good gesture to welcome without bothering their small mistakes. Spreading Bitcoin knowledge will help to take the ride of this unstoppable horse! ;) :)

But at least you should know what this field is, if you just rely on this forum to tell about bitcoin and cryptocurrency, then what is your function? To make someone convince about what we did, we should know first it firstly. In order to make other people believe that this forum is real and you make a contribution for this forum maybe it will be good for him. Sometimes if I find someone who gets interesting to bitcoin and cryptocurrency I just tell them about it briefly and I tell him with a few words that made him curious.

Yes I do. I am not the kind of person that back away from confrontation or a challenge and I do not sit on my ass and wait for good things to happen to me. I go out there and fight for it, because I believe the harder and smarter you work for it, the more deserving it would be to achieve it.

Word of mouth is FREE advertising and it takes very little effort to plant a seed. If people hear about Bitcoin every day, they will eventually be curious and they will investigate by themselves.  ;)

I don't if I am the one who will initiate the discussion about Bitcoins. I tried that before to my friends and relatives but after 5-10 minutes of explaining to them, they just stare at me like I am talking about a UFO landing somewhere nearby, they don't believe it. I would if they ask me about it. Them initiating the discussion means they are somewhat interested.

No, since now i am not interesting to convince to the people even my brother. But when i entered in bitcoin way before 3 years ago, then i did hard working to convincing people that to buy bitcoin, and my only one friend convinced on it and he bought bitcoin when it was under $385 and now he has huge profit on it, so to see him, most of my other friends convinced on it without any hard working. That's why i quit it. But if anyone interested on bitcoin then definitely i will educate him.     

For me I don't want to engage people who bothered Bitcoin because we can't convince it easilly to the people. We notice that some people can believedof what they are saying especially to the negative thoughts of their mind so we cannot blame it of the people bothered Bitcoiners.

Arguing on non-believers is just a waste of time, sharing information about bitcoin or crypto is worthy.

Those who are not believing and dont want to are people that is close minded and doesnt want a change on their lives trust me you cant win on debating them.  :)

Thus, it is good to be open and share your experiences on bitcoin or cryptocurrency. There are bad and good experience that we encounter in here dont be afraid to share both of it, if someone wants to be involve into cryptocurrency they must be willing to take the risk.

Yes. There's no point trying to win in a debate with non-believers because they will surely want their own ideas to prevail. So it's just a waste of your time. I really think if a person wants to pursue on something, he will definitely find ways on how to get there and not just relying on other's ideas.

I'm not convincing even before but I tell on how good bitcoin is. I'm not pushing my friends and even my relatives, I'm just telling them that bitcoin seems to be the future and start of waking up the world about decentralization. I'm aware of those possible scenarios that might happen if I will have a debate with non-believers, they love to mock bitcoin folks since they are also aware of the bulls and crashes that happened. I'm even more keen of focusing within my goal than arguing with any of them.

It will just gonna be like that forever until crypto goes mainstream and world used it for daily transactions.
People who doesn't want to know crypto saying crypto is scam, while we are know the truth annoyed by them.
So, me right now is not arguing with those kind of people anymore :D

Bitcoin is the best.  There is nothing to add.  If you are new to this world then yes you can indulge in altcoins.  But then if you try Bitcoin you will never refuse it.

There will always be people who will not support Bitcoin. It's impossibe to achieve that everybody likes everything and so it's with Bitcoin too. I try to explain people the benefits of Bitcoin and encourage them to try it on their own but I'm not trying to persue anyone.But I still beleive that with time more and more people will embrace Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies the same way they did it with fiat money.

For now maybe but what about in the future where cash/fiats will slowly be extinct because it will be replaced by cryptos ?  For sure people will start to crawl back on cryptocurrencies  .


Telling them how good bitcoin was , is still the same as convincing them to join bitcoin .

In my case no . i  am not engaging my self to non bitcoiner people because they wont bother to learn at all because they maybe lack of knowledge or maybe they are only lazy .

I don't see crypto form a threat to government issued fiat currencies because they are and will remain the most useful and convenient forms of money. All crypto does is add problems instead of solving them.

Sure, crypto is decentralized, which is a great selling feature for us, but who of the average joes care about that? They just want a form of money that works and is stable as per its unit value, and that's what fiat offers.

People are incentivized to hoard/save everything that's scarce, which is Bitcoin, but spend things that aren't, which fiat is part of. I find gold a way better selling feature than Bitcoin being a currency as main selling feature.

Well obviously many people who you try to convince about bitcoin  might get interested and other might not, but the thing is we have to keep trying we have to keep spreading the word because among the poeple who are just gonna ignore you there are a small minority that will join you and that is the way to make the community grow and make the bitcoin progress, and the people who hated on it will see what they are missing like they saw what happend back in 2017 when it reached 20k and people regretted it.

I always experienced this every time i try to reach out to other people to explain more about bitcoin.Some will leave doubts while others give you a positive feedback.But i never stop in sharing words about bitcoin because this might contribute on its mass adoption in the future.I just never give time to those who are non bitcoiners because they will surely stand for it whatever their reasons.

No, it isn't the same as convincing.

I tell them the things that I appreciate about bitcoin and it's up to them on how they will extract it. I'm not coming to the point of convincing them that they should also have bitcoin and start investing on it.

And if they are interested to know more, I'm telling them what I know and what I can tell but if no interest showed why do I have to continue talking to them about bitcoin? I'm shifting the conversation into some other topic.

for cases like this it often happens where I convince my relatives and friends about crypto and they joke me. from here I better walk alone

if i ever got caught in crypto related topic i do not go embroiled in debates i calmly explained to them
what i know and what they do not know
if they do not need my attention i just chose to let it slide specially if this group of people have selective judgement and close minded in crypto.

I sound confident when I recommend my friends buying Bitcoin (because I am). 3 of my buddies invested in Bitcoin, and I think that we all will make a profit this year and further, as the crypto will grow.

Yes. But rather than friends or internet creeps, I consider them valued colleagues. And rather than crypto in nature, more so the specific attributes of specific chains. Over on the WO.

::zing!::

But to your point, debate? No. I stopped arguing with the ignorant years ago. I state my counterpoint and my visions for the horizon one time, and let the rest slide. Genuine questions from them will yield genuine answers. If pressed, I may inform them that I still own way more Bitcoin than I have ever sold. This will either impress them with my earnestness, or dismay them with what they perceive as my irrationality. I don't much care which.

eta: Though if the topic of conversation turns to money, I'm sure to plant a seed. As well as implore anyone I know to have savings to at least spend 20 or so hours studying Bitcoin before dismissing it.

It's not actually a form of debate but more on educating and making them aware of what Bitcoin is all about. Proper education can help them understand the real essence of Bitcoin. I highlighted to them as well of how beneficial and profitable this technology is, but after all it's still up to them to make the final judgement.

Why will you waste your precious time debating and arguing with people who are not ready to learn and understand the benefits associated with the use of Bitcoin and the financial freedom it gives its users? People who do not appreciate new technologies are not worth to be engaged in a debate regarding Bitcoin.

You can't expect people that's new to Bitcoin would like it right away, if given enough time their view on Bitcoin could change..

Also there are people who are eager to learn Bitcoin but could have doubts and maybe confused on the idea.

Its not an easy task to convince anyone who does not accept bitcoin to be the future. Actually i really find it hard because the people are not willing to listen to the arguments and they stick to their thinking.  So i do not enforce my opinion and let them think whatever they think about bitcoins and crypto currencies.

Yes. It's really hard to convince people who stick with their own beliefs no matter how hard you tried to convince them. But we are living in a democratic world so we are free to think whatever we want. Just let them see wherever bitcoin may go and might regretted in the end for not giving a chance for bitcoin to amaze them.

That doesn’t sound healthy for one thing. As for me, I prefer not to take responsibility for others and their choices. You can always advice something but not to lure anyone in it.

There is nothing you could do to convince them specially when they are closeminded people.
And for me you don't need to convince them let them wake up on their own way.
I have told my friends and family about Bitcoin back when I was just new and they didn't like it.
But as time past by and they heard some great news about crypto and Bitcoin they are the one who wants to invest on it.
So you don't really need to convince them just show them.

I never exert effort to explain or argue the idea of crypto to anyone who refuse to believe. It is a waste of time for both of us. If they already have the notion that bitcoin is fake, scam or bubble, there is nothing I can say that Will change that.

People who do not know bitcoin should be given an overview of bitcoin, starting from the way they work, the time that can be used for transactions, even the potential benefits or losses that may be experienced as a bitcoin investor.
Giving a overview of course has a purpose, namely that more people who are engaged in bitcoin in this world. Then so that people who get profit from bitcoin can increase their economic level and more and more are spreading positive information about bitcoin.

People who sit back won't accomplish anything. You have to partake in things in order to take advantage of them. If you just sit on the sidelines you never going to go anywhere. Take risks. These people probably let fear lead their lives. NO point in arguing with the inevitable and the clueless. Most people are clueless but these are the people those who have a clue profit from.

I say leave them in the dark xD

Bitcoin is a fantastic and popular digital currency because people trust, invest and trade enthusiastically. Not the result of people who only speak but do nothing.
Now that bitcoin has become expensive, they continue to criticize and comment on the negative tone of bitcoin, even though they are not part of the people who are active in the bitcoin community.
So it's better to let them talk, but the bitcoin trade is still running and enjoyed by investors because they might be jealous to see the price of bitcoin rise again and now it has exceeded USD 8000.

It would be absolutely a waste of time trying to bother those who are not open minded to things that they do not even know. They are ignoring the fact that Cryptocurrency is one of the best things ever invented using the available technology in the present time. Learning about blockchain technology will give us a lot of opportunities and we should not waste our time on close minded people.

Never will I waste time on people who has determined not to learn anything new. Bitcoin has come to stay but yet some haters of bitcoins are still dreaming of the day they will wake up to hear bitcoins is gone forever. I rather spend time on Beginners that are eager to learn the potentials of investing, trading and transacting in cryptocurrencies.

I agree. They are not worth for explanation because there mind is already close to understand and they believe on what they believe. Do not bother because they will just blame us for pushing them to involve in bitcoin when it turn more cheaper. It is not your lose but them because they losing an opportunity and the benefits with bitcoin.

A couple of years ago I also stopped debating about this as I used to do before. When I talked to people about the existence of cryptocurrencies, all their potential as currency and even as an investment, the price of bitcoin was around $450. People found it interesting but always found a pretext not to get involved in the topic, or when they thought they knew something about cryptos, they only talked about the negative things supposedly involved in the subject.

But after ten years of existence of bitcoin, I think being apart from it is nothing but negligence, so I do not see much encouragement in trying to convince them about it.

I find it a waste of time to try talk people who don't understand or have made their minds not to understand the true ideology behind the creation and use of bitcoin. Non Bitcoiners are usually the source of misleading information in the crypto space and the entire world. 

Exactly.It's just a waste of time engaging in non bitcoiners because even if you keep on convincing them about bitcoin,they will surely stand up with their own ideas.They will stick to their own beliefs.So it would be useless dealing with them.I sugget that we should focus on our own and let them see how we will soar up high just like the price of bitcoin.

No, I am not bothered at all. Though some of the friends are involving in the crypto and some of the friends took it seriously with me and a very few friends like to mock with us! I stop convincing them because after all of these great things happen, if they don't get the idea, then we have nothing to do instead of ignoring!

On the previous peak where things are really hot that time, my friends did questioned alot on the system negatively, yet still bought some and got rekted in the end. Yes most of the people do care price the most but for me what I can do was simply educate more about blockchain use case, but not about the price cause i also have no idea how these drivers can be that insane

..not bothered at all,,my friends and I do believe in the technology of Bitcoin,,although there are ups and downs and lots of struggles bitcoin surpassed,,I always thinking of what Bitcoin will going to be in the future generations,,but only one insticnt comes to my mind..Bitcoin will always be the very first digital cryptocurrency that will going to rule in the universe..

i've not really bothered myself in persuading people to join bitcoin users, a lot of people feel bitcoin being an online cryptocurrency, is one of those internet fraud.
for me to convince anyone who is not even interested is to make the bounty more crowded. well! that may sound somehow selfish but it is for real. everyone does not need to beleive in it.

It is their loss, and you are just doing your part on expanding the boundaries of crypto space. They will realize that they miss the chance in cryptocurrencies in the near future. There may be obstacles hindering the faster adoption of Crypto today but it will get to that point, and when it does, many people will regret what they did not believe.

I as a bitcoiner, I do see many hindrance in engaging people, especially the elders and some businesses to use cryptocurrencies. They are afraid because they look at it as a scam, and that the government does not recommend using it. They are very close minded. They are firm into disbelief while not exploring the technology behind it.

I used to suggest to users having good understanding about cryptocurrency. In recent days I had a conversation with a friend who is a full time share market investor. He have known about cryptocurrencies, but for some legal reasons he hasn't shown interest towards it. Now after my suggestion he have begun to explore more and I believe he'll make an investment soon as he's already good with share market.

It is very hard to change people's beliefs because it is something they have held on to for a very long time. Just leave them to believe whatever they want, after all, their belief doesn't affect you in any other way. Just keep doing what you believe in.

It is a new market and what belief do they have if they know nothing about the market, you need some patience and skills to learn about a new market and it is not that easy for someone who is not interested to understand how the market works or how to evaluate a market which has no physical presence, there is no point in arguing with anyone who is not interested to learn, but i do engage in healthy debates every now and then  ;D.

Yeah most times the topic of crypto will come among the non bitcoiner folks am familiar with and i try as much as i could to educate and enlighten them in my own way what crypto is all about, but most times it doesn't really yeild a good result because my efforts just pass through a deaf ear ;D
Very hard to reason with non bitcoiners about btc, they are very adamant about it, i guess they will come around in due time :D

I don't want to argue with my friends and acquaintances about bitcoin. If you force someone to join crypto, then in case of failure, this person will blame you for everything. So I believe that people themselves must come to this. The people themselves must decide they need it or not. If they have the desire, they will find all the necessary information.

Most persons can only think in terms of a centralized such as those of the government creating money and fail to see that the power is actually created by a consensus of the masses that anything has value. Such thoughts are the results of many years of brainwashing by the government and constant attack of bitcoin/crypto by those whose interest are threatened by bitcoin. The good thing is that adoption is growing rapidly and will soon be astronomical.Bitcoin will rule the world.Already 5 % or so percent of americans have used bitcoin.

as what i do i take my own risk in bitcoin and now im still here,its almost a year when first i came here,so for me i dont need to urge them to join in bitcoin community coz i dont want to be reason if their money will be gone by investing but im still here to support bitcoin by the way of investing and trading,and i know many people will arrived to invest and enjoy with bitcoin.

If only they bring it up on the conversation. Because just imagine talking your favorite show that your friends or co-workers does not like. It feels weird and awkward right? It's just the same as talking to them who are not interested at all. It's much fun to to discuss it with people who knows about it and involved in trading altcoins or the latest news about it.

My friends are still arguing with me about the legality of bitcoin, but they cannot change my mind because I understand cryptocurrency and I know bitcoin is really here for us which they can't accept since they are bankers and working in financial institution. We can't please them, let that debates continues until they become a hodler because they will see the potential if big companies started to create their own cryptocoins.

p.s - I'm not a member of those "internet creeps", please don't judge me.  ;D

I agree. You have to talk someone that interested into it, those who asks you to explain to them for it to be worth explaining. They have to believe with it and learn how crypto works. They have to decide whether they want to enter or not for you not to blame when fail on it.

maybe there are moments that need to involve non bitcoiners, in some cases that I have encountered, some non bitcoiners can become new members of bitcoiners after what we tell, and they are interested in investing, but there are also non bitcoiners who are difficult and not interested. but for me it's normal.

Unfortunately, when non-Bitcoiners (as in the common people) hear about Bitcoin, the image of cryptocurrency and blockchain is still associated most viscerally with scams and fraud - and governments have imposed strict regulations on crypto projects and highlighting that crypto projects/currencies help fund illegal, criminal activities etc. As cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin are more widely used in every day lives - from online shopping to buying houses, to green energy etc. - people will come around to the idea eventually! Imagine if non-Bitcoiners were directed to a large blockchain-based platform that uses tokens to facilitate online shopping for clothes, or to use tokens to directly pay for products offline in stores for example and that the benefits of doing so are attractive enough - it would entice people to use tokens in their daily lives, introduce them to the concept of using cryptocurrency, and perhaps only then it's possible to engage them in conversation about BTC and crypto in general.

No,  Too many people looking just for a quick buck.  I would only be interested in talking with developers.

You are only interested in talking to the developers? Then you are against the idea of global adoption of Bitcoin. The developers are already using Bitcoin and you will not add any users by talking to them. If you want Bitcoin to be a truly global currency, then you should converse with the middle-class and lower middle-class people, who are working in non-IT domains.

Agree developers already knows about bitcoin or maybe he has another intention that's why he likes to talk to developers,if we want a global adoption of bitcoin we need to educate non Bitcoiners so that they can get idea about this new technology,and also tell them the positive and negative impact if they will invest on it so that they will not expect very high about Bitcoin.

I have thought like yours, it's just a waste of energy since this is not a referral system, you will get nothing inviting people to invest in Cryptocurrency if they do not want to, let them believe on what they believe, you will get riches anyway without them investing in Bitcoin.

its true its hard to talk about bitcoin to someone who doesnt even want to changes or understand the nature of bitcoin. I do feels its very hard to convince them and every word that i say just fly away and they seems just dont want to comperhend or think about what i trying to explain.

Yes I am still engaging myself to them, even they're not open about what I'm doing it now in digital currency.
In fact, they've heard a lot many times about bitcoin, but in terms of understanding it, they are all empty knowledge about it.

If you are living in a country with no regulation, then there is no point in debating the legality of bitcoin until there is a decision from the authorities, it depends upon how they view the market and how well they can frame a regulations knowing the difficulties they have to encounter since it is a global medium and cannot be restricted easily. There is no point convincing anyone who is not interested in the new technology, it is a waste of your time.

I still do but only those who are opened minded and not folks who have some weird perceptions about cryptocurrencies in their mind. Wth such folks it is a total waste of time and energy.

Yes, i still bother until now, especially to those who are not interested because i want to let them know or share some important and uses of bitcoin. So i would not stop bothering other people until they did not realize about btc. Its not a waste of time if you want introduce to others, explain more to people those lack of knowledge so that one day they can understand.

After seeing this thread i wanted to say . I am also doing the same stuff i was doing initial days telling about bitcoin and price growth 2X or 3X the great weapon i had and even i am having is that freebitco.in i introduce them to collect some free bitcoin.

From time to time I still reach out to friends and colleagues on crypto topics. It took my friend time to convince me I need such patience with my other friends as well. Some persons are laggards and very Conservative about stuffs like this sticking around to remind them every now and then is a good thing.

Even i introduced many people and they all invested in bitcoin when they saw that the price was on a very sharp increase in 2017 and i was telling them about bitcoin for the past five years and they never listened nor bothered to invest during that time, but they saw the price rallying they invested without informing me and they started bothering me that they lost money when the crash started, i just had to blast them for their actions without my direction and how they can raise their voice on their stupid decision, i really stopped advising anyone when it comes to investment after that incident.

This is why no one is a financial expert in this extremely volatile cryptocurrency market and acting like one will most likely screw you over time. The first and foremost golden rule in the crypto market is :

Invest only what you are willing to lose!

No one can offer perfect predictions in this market and depending on signals and such gimmicks will cause your endeavors to end in failures. Do your research before investing your hard earned money into this market people.

Its a complete waste of time to try to change people's mind that crypto has better future ahead ,I will let bitcoin do the talking I remember the same thing happened last bullrun ,many newbies are running into crypto space

Most of the Internet are lurkers, so while it's generally very rare to see someone changing their opinion as the result of a debate, many other people, especially those who haven't formed a strong opinion yet, will get influenced by that debate without even participating in it.

Imagine if all pro-Bitcoin people just went silent - then nocoiner narrative would dominate the space, and all undecided people will take it as a universal truth and think that Bitcoiners are just nutjobs.
Now, I myself am a lurker most of the time, but I'm very grateful to people who are passionate enough to debate Bitcoin with strangers on the Internet, even if it seems like it's pointless.

I have tried my best to popularize Bitcoins among my friends and members of the family. But a lot of them are concerned about the legality of Bitcoin. To be clear, Bitcoins are not illegal here in Indonesia. But due to a lack of clear regulations, most of the people are afraid to deal with cryptocurrency. And to make matters worse, there is a lot of negative propaganda going on in the media, labeling it as a ponzi.

Some of my friends never asked me the question about crypto legality. They simply call Bitcoin a pyramid and a bubble and recommend me to quit dealing with BTC and altcoins. Actually, I try not to argue with these people.

While investing, people should be aware of the risks they're taking as well. One shouldn't invest blindly for the past years you've been telling them they never invested all for them to buy the top.

Lol.. that's just a total waste of time and energy.. infact I don't encourage people to invest in bitcoin.. cause of unforeseen circumstances ..  a friend was told me bitcoin is scam and those who invested in bitcoin would loose their hard earned cash.. well this was almost 5 years ago..  :Dnow I wonder what hes opinion is about btc

Something popped into my mind I decided to ask questions. Now if we stop engaging non-bitcoiners, how will mass adoption take effect?

People who are not interested on bitcoin must not be entertained, they just make a fud about bitcoin even they don't know what are the advantages on penetrating it. Yet, nothings wrong on engaging with non bitcoiners, because the communication will still affect the incouragement to study the used of bitcoin appropriably and may lead to earn accumulate profits when people accept its consequences. And I don't bother on engaging them to penetrate bitcoin, but rather than expositing how its occurence resemble by many.

If they want to know about it, then they have to study. Their knowledge needs to be increased. Their whole issues need to know well. Then they will not have any new Question.

I just do my thing and I don't care what they doing. If they want to slave away earning fiat and not listen to reason then so be it. I cannot change them.


Exactly, knowledge is free and everyone has google. There is really no excuse not to be educated in your field of interest.

Yes. Everyone has all the resources to learn if they really want to increase their knowledge in crypto and not just being negative when it comes to crypto. But i believe people have their own choices to stand where they want too. So if they chose not stand with bitcoin, then let them be. Anyways they are the ones who will regret later once bitcoin price will soar to the moon again.

Seeing that the government has a large influence on society, we do not deny that legality is very important for the process of adoption and dissemination. You will find difficulties when involving outsiders to join Crypto, because of course they will ask about the regulation and validity of this business.

Yes, I still do but for chosen people but I'm no longer convincing anyone to invest and let them decide on what they think which is good for them. I don't care to those that are ignoring my talks and I'm done exerting effort with those kind of people that doesn't really show interest. Just like when you talk about money, everyone will run after you and is willing to listen. But after all the talks, they will show nothing even won't give back to say thanks for your time.

But we should learn how to activate their interest first. I know that we should not force it if they want it but even though, I think it is better if they will learn what it is by themselves and discover by themselves too how great bitcoin is. I don't really like to force anything from someone but I think it is awesome for them to know that they are wrong themselves.

The same thing will happen in next bull run. When Bitcoin bull rally will start, then all of sudden we will see many new people entering in bitcoin at high prices. Bitcoin will be all over the social and news media and people will fomo.

I dont see any reason to be so worried about people adopting bitcoin or cryptocurrency , the time will definitely tell as every thing is moving fast .

I joined crypto early 2017 and by now I know what it looks like compare to fiat that is centralized and has a pure inflation to get ride of values why crypto deflate the value as what you have today will be much worth in near future to acquire more than what it could now , so if people are so adamant about this , then we should not boarder about it.

I received many questions about bitcoin, because for them bitcoin is something that doesn't make sense, some people even think it's impossible to provide benefits to its users. Even though the evidence I show is clear, but they think it is fraud.
Finally I don't want to bother, and give internet links  about bitcoin, how it works, bitcoin trading, even people who have made millions of dollars in bitcoin. Let them think, this is a business opportunity whether to accept it or not, I have no right to impose.

I don't normally worry about non bitcoiners because with or without their support, Bitcoin always survives and rise in price. This is to tell the world that the technology behind Bitcoin is a revolutionary one which cannot be killed by any centralized body. Bitcoin is here to live and will reach mass adoption some years to come. The earlier one joins, the better.

I decided to not waste time evangelizing crypto. I'll let them find it on their own and they can ask me anytime if want to learn something.
I already did that when I was in my first year in crypto, some bought, some didn't. Those who were quick and risked a lot became lot richer than me which is really good.  ;D
Those skeptics are still the same and hasn't gone anywhere.

SO true, I feel you bro.

My friends introduced me to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general but my parents and some of my aunts and uncles don't like the idea of it and when they heard someone getting scammed because of Bitcoin, they think it is one of those projects but no. Instead of arguing with them, I just tried to understand them and let them say what they want, I am getting profits out of my investment and that is fine with me.

BTC I let them ask me questions. No one likes a preacher. Always happy to help  new people understand.

Yes i do agree with you, its really exhausting to explain something that people dont wanted to understand, I do think they just not intrested in cryptocurrency an they only knew that bitcoin as a digital currency and they do think its bad investments, so i do think its not good idea to try to changes something that cannot be change. Just teach people who wanted to undestand not someone who only want the money.

I still trying to make crypto adoption spread from time to time, this space has a lot to offer. Don't just tell people crypto is the future and they need to buy Bitcoin, my method is by showing them what blockchain could do and from there they can connect the dot.

In the end even if they agree with you that Bitcoin is the real deal, they couldn't even bother buy a single satoshi. It is in their blood I think, people with that kind of mentally should just be ignored and lets continue with what we believe or either them or us will get hurt in the end.

well bitcoin is hard to explain and it not easy to convinced to those who are not interested. so for me i stop explaining about bitcoin to non bitcoiner i just let them know that bitcoin exist and let them do their own research if they are interested and just answer some of their question if they dont understand something.

I just let them know once and they figure it out that most crypto are very risky for investment purpose !
Until I show them profit that I can achieve over 4 years.

Yes, just by holding, we can earn profit from crypto so nothing to loss !

Very tired and troublesome, that's why I don't explain all the problems about bitcoin to others, they already know about it, they understand the risks, what they ask us, it's just their curiosity, our explanation is not valuable and can change their thinking. The time has begun to prove all their mistakes when the value and results that bitcoin can bring to everyone, it is very wonderful, many middle-aged and older people know and understand the benefits of bitcoin, Bitcoin has automatically become popular with people, it does not need us to help, and we do not need to help others, information and knowledge are more than enough and too much

I used to engage non-Bitcoiners, whenever I had time. But most of the times, I failed to convince them to use crypto-currency. And now I need to be very careful while mentioning about crypto-currency. Because the government is planning to completely ban crypto in my country, and as per reports published in Bloomberg, anyone caught with crypto in their possession can face up to 10 years in jail.

That is the problem though, I don't bother when people don't care about bitcoin but when they approach me and ask me about it, I will give them pieces of information about it even give them articles and sites they can read to understand it more. So the problem is that they can't even surf the internet since they are not taught to use them. Some of them are willing to put their money into it but they don't even know how to access their wallets.

Some of my friends don't believe it will become the next big things, but he actively trading it for profit.
Some doesn't even bother me with a question like " is it a scam?" after a few years pass, I think they just don't care anymore.

When I first invested in Bitcoin in 2017, a lot of my friends tried to discourage me. They told me that BTC is a ponzi scheme and some were even saying that cryptocurrency is illegal and I can go to jail for using it. But in the end, I made them admit that they don't know anything about crypto. Their knowledge about BTC came from propaganda pieces published in mainstream media and social media.

Things changed later that year. BTC gave me 20x returns, and many of those who mocked me earlier congratulated me for my success. A few of them even sought my advice for their own crypto investment plans.

Personally, i do engage most of my friends on positive argument and through that means i had to explain to them the true nature of cryptocurrency and the more reasons they need to embrace it as digital currency. Some of these Friends have been here for years now, why some are still fresh to the technology. Positive engagement will bring adoption.

it depends on who I'm speaking to and whether that person has shown any interest in the past. Eventually, they will transform when they see it everywhere they go and no, I don't believe that you can change other people views but you can only make the suggestion, whether or not they take it is up to them.

Why do we need to persuade the non believers? One try is enough for me to share this idea to them. If they want, it is better but if they don't want, then I don't care. I do not live to please people around to me. Probably, they will just follow me once I gain a high amount of money. I never want to conduct affiliation. I just want to earn for my own good.

Because of your money, you decide for yourself. If you want to buy, sell, profit, or loss, join it, frighten it off, not because the FOMO those gets in it is swallowed by the media or sharks don't know it at all.

I don't tell anyone about it. It's my secret ^^ I just don't like talking about it because I don't feel like having an argument with ignorant fools. xP
I agree with the first poster about letting people believe as they wish. To me, it's like "hey if you don't like money and enjoy working your fingers to the bone then that's your problem" it won't benefit you in anyway. I think I will only introduce people I feel are "worthy" to the crypto world.

As crypto currency players, we should be wise. We must be able to choose useful information and useless information. We should not engage in debates that are useless and do not bring benefits. Let the insignificant news develop according to his wishes if we cannot deny it. We really should focus on what happens in crypto currencies. We should develop a good strategy in crypto currencies rather than thinking about unimportant matters. We must decide our own decisions without the need to involve many parties, especially non-bitcoiners. It will only make our decision much to intervene.

I don't really like convincing and forcing people to like what I like and to believe in what I believed in. I respect their decisions and opinion.  I do believe in bitcoin cause I see its advantages and its capability to lead in the future, I'm sure they will want bitcoin too if they also see these advantages.  Maybe not now,  but I know sooner or later, they will.

It is fun debating with people since you will be able to hear their side of the story and also the expression in their faces when they knew they are wrong. Though some I don't even care to talk to, some thought is interesting to have a debate. I am not that informative with it, it is just that I know what they are saying is wrong.

I just respect non bitcoiners decision that they don't want to invest in bitcoin. First of all it's their hard-earned money, I can't force someone to believe what I believe. If they invest just because I said it then I will be held responsible if they lose money.

Of course, if we are talking about the money that you earned with your Blood and then, then of course you cannot risk such means.  It is best to earn start-up capital, for example, with the help of the Bounty company and when to invest in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency.

I'm yet to meet anyone who will argue btc is or will die or whatsoever they may think of btc. I mostly see some of such issues brought up on this forum. Actually all my friends are into btc and maybe that is why I haven't met anyone yet but should I,I don't think I will bother to do any explanation because the fact is their mind is already made up and there is nothing anyone can say to convince them.

I really do not think one should convince the non believers. If the news doesn't then maybe your  wallet worth might on the long run

Specifically, I don't prove anything to anyone about cryptocurrencies. I think it is stupid to convince a person that 200 tons of iron can move perfectly on the surface of the water if this person doesn't believe in the possibility of the existence of ships. But if someone really wants to know about crypto currencies, then I’ll be happy to tell him about them.
We are not the Jehovah's Witnesses and it is no need to behave as they are.

I think the clout of Bitcoin is large enough to where most people know, or at-least aware of it. I really don't go out of my way unless someone asks.

It's really hard to explain what Crypto Currency is like Bitcoin especially to those people with a closed mind and never accepts any explanation and depends on their own negative point of view on what Bitcoin is, some of my friends think Bitcoin is networking that scam people and they don't even listen to explanations on what Bitcoin is. Sometimes it is better not to waste time for people who do not listen and now I'm tired of explaining to them what are the benefits of using Bitcoin and what this technology can do.

I think we need to.

I mean there are a lot of these "non-believers" that is not really non-believers but actually do not know anything about it. We should share our knowledge about something with other people especially if you know that they might be interested in it. If they know about it, then tell them what they think about it and if they got the wrong idea, then you should explain to them.

To that extent, maybe for your friends and love ones who you really care it's possible and it's worth doing that, but with people who are not believing at all
there's no need to deal with them since internet is catering this industry, news are spreading  around non bitcoiners have its chance to learn more about
this industry it's up to them to accept and understand or to continue not being interested to this industry.

I think for "the majority" to be convinced a talking head needs to tell them it's okay.

There are no guys with guns to man-handle you if you don't support the system.

People hear a blockchain is a database and they are underwhelmed.
They don't realize how many BILLIONS are spent on the infrastructure alone.
Powerful groups are involved, there is strong ideological drive in many customers.
It doesn't matter what a specific gov policy change is, there will be demand and supply maintained elsewhere.
If it was TOTALLY banned by all the govs ever, the tech would adapt, become harder to track, and there would still be people using it.

There's only millions of people using this product. They see the money tree, but not the roots. Looks fake.

That's fine. HODL

I still bother to invite them get involve in cryptocurrencies but I don't try to impose my beliefs in them "too much". It's always up to them whether they believe or not. I have some friends get into this forum but they didn't try to even get money from bounties because they said it is taking too much of their time.

That's good, in me it's different, I don't invite or engage them about bitcoin, unless they are the one who will approach first.
I am always showy to people about my involvement in crypto, and if they see I'm getting some progress financially because of crypto, they'll surely approach me asking them to teach me, but I always make sure I teach them what's necessary, it's better to be practical and realistic all the time, they should know the risk first than the reward.

As soon as I understand that most people around me will not be able to accept the risks that may occur during our journey in crypto currencies, I do not actively persuade them to get involved. I only give suggestion if someone comes to me and asks about the stuffs and things as long as I can.

Nah, it's over for them and the last laugh are on us. If the world is trying to get in quickly then it's obvious that the individual will have no choice but to adapt to the new world. Banks are now recognizing it as a currency and can be use for payment and it seems like their war on us is over. We should thank Mark for his move even though most of us don't like him but we can't deny the fact that he helped to change the views of many insitutions about the blockchain tech and cryptocurrency.

I agree with your opinion. We are better to let someone trust what they want. We don't need to make someone believe in accordance with our beliefs. Someone has different decisions and beliefs based on the analysis they are doing. We must respect one's decisions, especially different decisions in the business and game of crypto currencies. Everyone has a different way of playing crypto currencies so we don't need to involve non-bitcoiners. Later each person will develop themselves according to their knowledge and experience.

I think we need to explain or persuade anyone even if they want to know or they don't believe in bitcoin, especially our friends or family members because the risks and consequences in this story are not small, it involves a lot of money, even if they understand and accept, we should not explain to them. Human psychology is often to blame, promises can always be changed, we should not become targets for them to blame, it is very troublesome and hinders us in many other relationships in life

Before I was making an argument about how will Bitcoin change our future money, but now, I will no longer care much because I know one day they will come to me and ask me how will they buy their Bitcoin.

Stop forcing them; they will never believe. Just let them missed the opportunities. After all, it's not us who lose.

You're right. Everyone believes in what he wants. From the fact that you will convince the person of something nothing will happen. So do not waste your time and effort on it.

The catch is it is kinda hard. I've been telling friends and relatives about BTC and Crypto since Oct 18th, 2013.

So they have gone thru the following cycles:

The day I turned on my KNC Jupiter BTC Miner as a Newbie!

Oct 18th 2013 BTC   $150.00
Oct 18th 2014 BTC   $381.09
Oct 18th 2015 BTC   $265.33
Oct 18th 2016 BTC   $638.15
Oct 18th 2017 BTC $5,605.89
Oct 18th 2018 BTC $6,538.90
Oct 19th 2019 BTC $?

Current Price: June 21st, 2019 $10,728.37 10:20 pm CDT USA.

As you can see from the above as a date, it has been interesting what people NOT in crypto have behaved like

from 2013 till today 6/22/19

From 2013 to 2014: I was a genius!

From 2014 to 2015: I was an idiot!

From 2015 to 2017: I was a genius!

From 2017 to 2018: I was an idiot!

From 2018 to 2019: I was a genius!

From the trend above it is easy to see when BTC and crypto is dumping, regular folk will do everything in their

power (if they like you) not to bring up it is dumping. Most folk though like to show how wrong you are, because

they have no skin in the game. Then, of course, everyone, talks to you about BTC and Crypto when pumping!

 Like NOW. All I get is texts of WHY I did not twist their arm and get them into BTC or Crypto (

pick your own date and year and rinse/wash/repeat with the same relatives and or other folks)

It is 'completely' unwinnable. Somehow I'm the bad guy because the assumption is 'back in the day' I had 'bad

communication skills on getting into crypto and Bitcoin, etc.

When you should buy Bitcoin, a person is 'too scared' of looking foolish. (I resemble that remark) and don't buy.

When it is pumping, you buy on the FOMO and hype, when the price is too high. Then many folks after this buying too

high dump too soon. Thus it is rinse/wash/repeat for that as well.

IF an ETF ever came to pass from SEC in the USA, perhaps something stable would come from this all. But as of

right now...no one listens when I tell them to buy (2 months ago) and no one listens when the price pumps to

HODL (present time)

it is human nature and likely an 'unwinnable' situation for anyone hodl'ing crypto in the manner above.

So hell, I just kinda 'nod' now on the above and if they 'really' want to jump in the Bitcoin and Crypto pool

they have to work for the advice now. It is too much to deal with on 'every frigging pump and then dump'

year by year. So mostly, I don't say crap about BTC and crypto anymore, other folks now do the work or are

ignored and/or unanswered. After the last 6 years, I just kinda 'tune it out' unless you really push me on stuff

like this and actually, act (even modestly) on my advice. That is just the way it is gonna be in crypto from now

on I think.

Brad

They are foolish and deserve nothing. They pass up opportunities repeatedly then cry they have no money... Boo hoo... I just laugh. They have been told what to do but they won't so that's their own problem.
I am glad they not with us, I want to collect as many bitcoins as I can before mainstream jumps on board the bitcoin vessel.

I still do on a high level though. Back in the old days, it was cool to convert people on a personal level. Now there are so many people in crypto that individuals don't really make a huge difference. It is better to try and engage a large group of people.

I tried before, but now I don't care. Just wait and soon they will come asking about it, they will have a lot to learn  :P

I have tried to educate non bitcoiners about the true potential of the technology. By the time they started using it and realized the truth in it. This way some continues to use it, rest that left it without experimenting now feels bad of missing such a big opportunity of profiting. When people finds the possible way to get profited it is easy to make people get into bitcoin.

most people want to imitate someone's success. at first they were not interested, but once they learned the results, many wanted to learn. even many who want to get instant results like people who have succeeded in the crypto world. if like that usually they will be disappointed with what they get

Some of them are open or willing to learn the basics of cryptocurrencies but it will take time to understand it fully. I'm only willing to engage non bitcoiners who are also willing to learn and be teach. Some of them are reluctant to invest in bitcoin because of fear after hearing the news that bitcoin is use by the scammers to victimize people. Educating non bitcoiners is difficult especially if that person have zero knowledge on cryptocurrency and still doubting so it better to avoid them unless they show strong interest to learn.

same bro, I invited some of my friends to know about bitcoin, how I got money maybe for the first time they were interested and then I taught about bounty, they were excited with the payment given but only a few weeks they were lazy and said "just waste time" . It's useless to teach them to waste time.

So now if a friend wants to know about bitcoin, I want to see his curiosity first. Are they just curious or have the determination to try.

One should not try to convince anyone of anything, especially when it comes to investment. If a person follows your advice and loses money, he will blame you in it. Cryptocurrencies are high-risk investments and here everyone decides for himself whether to buy Bitcoin and wait for the bull market or not to be interested in the cryptocurrency industry at all.

As my part, at first of course I will do my best to persuade all the non bitcoiners to start investing on the cryptocurrency, but if they don't want to believe then I will not push myself to them and force them to use and invest on the crypto currency. In my side, I said all the things that can persuade to the non bitcoiners.

Like what I always say on the diferent discussions here couple of times already, I stopped persuading people to try crypto (bitcoin to be specific). I'm already tired of of being rejected and hear different misconceptions like bitcoin is a scam, their safety is at risk once they used it blah blah. I said to myself that I will now stop presenting my knowledge about cypto, I'll just let my profits speak for me. I know it sounds too selfish but what should I do? Itv seems they're not interested at all.

The reason that I see why all of them refuse to invest is the risk. I realized that people want to get outputs in a sudden but don't want to give inputs at all ::).

I was a serious preacher of Bitcoin to the commoners or the newbies but, was almost slapped by one of my closed friend who once invested on a Ponzi Scheme that pretend to be a Bitcoin legitimate investment platform. Although, his argument was based on the facts with him, later in two moths after the hot argument, i told him where to invest and he made his profits. Sometimes we should be patient with them and guild them because, they are still nobs even though they look matured.

I remember the story of my two officemates who questions me long time ago about how bitcoin works and how bitcoin is not a scam. One of them believes in me and the other has a close minded opinion. Now, that co worker who beleives earns big already and the other one has a difficulty in earning because of greediness and stress of being behind.

Based on my experience, the more we convince them, the more they hate us, at the same time, reject our proposals. That is the way how human mind works often. So in order for me to win an argument, I give them results, that can make them believe what the truth is. In terms of arguing to some people about bitcoin being scam or not, I better show them how to cash out fiats from btc, but with them having a hope that I will tell them information if they are ready to accept it. If still not, then I'll stop the conversation.

For me, sometimes I embroiled when trying to convince a friend because a friend also helps/introduces me what bitcoin is, what are the benefits and advantages that you can have, and more. But when I come to other ppl that non bitcoiner I just explain my part why I believe in bitcoin and if they don't  want to believe to the things that I have said/ done I don't force them to believe I will not convince them, we all know what is the reason why we believe in bitcoin so if their perspective of bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is a scam or negative thoughts so be it it's their lives. :)

I dont actually convince anyone to know bitcoin because it is somehow technical so its hard to explain the features and other good thing with regards to cryptcurrency. It is somehow good when you actually convince one person maybe he will understand and try to invest and that will really help the community. More investors more possibility that crypto pumps and thats what I think.

Even now people are with the fear of using bitcoin, and this is due to the negative things that's been shared about cryptocurrency. Among the common people very few try to analyze and take decisions, while majority go with the next one's decision. I try to convince people describing the truth of circulating negative news. Further its their wish to continue or stop using it.

Yes I still do, sometimes even people who are already using bitcoin gets into the argument about whether it would stand the test of time and I also engage in the argument, I love convincing people about Bitcoin, I like letting them know that it is the next step in the evolution of money and I have to admit that I do it for selfish reasons as well because I hope to one then tell them "I told you so... Atleast to those that refused to be convinced.

There is no point in convincing anyone about the market, all you can do is to introduce them about the bitcoin market and then the decision to invest in it must be their sole discretion, when i first heard about bitcoin even i was not convinced about a decentralized market but when the price rallied a few times and then i understood the potential of entering at an early stage.

That doesn't mean we should stand idly by when someone talks shit about the thing you do and are interested in.
I sometimes engage these people. I don't try to convince them to invest but persuade them that Bitcoin is not a scam and it's not some crazy idea that won't ever work because it works. I always argue with brainwashed mainstream media followers who repeat dumb headlines. Bitcoin is used by terrorists, bitcoin is used for child porn, bitcoin is a black market drug money these are one of the most common ones.

Actually, it depends on the person if he really wanted to learn everything even the market's status.  It has really a point because not all of them appreciate bitcoin because of the price, bitcoin was already attractive to intellectual techy persons who wanted to learn and study it.

I have fellow mates here that attracted to bitcoin because of the blockchain not in the price value and because of that, they learn everything and earn a lot because of that knowledge. You can do everything in the power of technology, not just only by investments.  

Agree, and I've never argued with anyone as to whether bitcoin is legitimate.  Either you get it or you don't. 

Most people I talk to are roughly my age, which is probably over the average age of the typical bitcoiner.  There is no need to try to convince them that bitcoin is worth investing in, using, or whatever else.  It is going to be the current generation, the millenials and the ones that come after them, who will be responsible for bitcoin's success or failure.  Chances are that they'll understand bitcoin and carry it forward, just like any new technological advance.  Hopefully they'll find a cure for cancer as well, but that's another story.

I recently realized I can only convince people about bitcoin when the market is bullish :) when I tried convincing people to buy bitcoin when the market is down or even bearish the people say all the negative things they want about bitcoin but when the market started doing well many people tend to believe what I was saying about bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

For me, I don't do any convincing talk this day. It's a waste of my precious time and energy. After all these ones acting indecisive won't give me the money they are likely going to make once they key into the whole crypto thing. I only talk about crypto among friends once I know it is a loose conversation. If it's anything serious, I keep crypto to my chest and rather don't talk because in the past a lot of these friends never believed me about cryptocurrency.

I used to try to convince people that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies were such a revolutionary technology only to be told that it was a scam or that I was trying to sell them something, since then I just keep quiet about my activities and I feel great about it, if they want to learn about cryptocurrencies they can research by themselves just as I did in the past, if many of us have this attitude this will slow down adoption somehow but I am tired to try to convince people, if a price of 9k for each coin does not convince them then I do not know what will.

That's the better way as a human to at least still engage and to convince them as much as possible to check out cryptocurrency industry, as experts said, we should try to build someone up, be a light in a too often dim world for those people thinking there is no more chance to become successful, still let them have some of their spare time doing cryptocurrency, for my friends, I never give up telling them and now they are already here with me too, chasing their dreams in trading.

My way of engaging people into bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies were different. I give them the explanation of share market and further used to term cryptocurrency market is almost the same you can give a try with the leading cryptocurrencies available in the market. Very few have accepted and tried, among them one got a good earning out of the same. Surely people will start using it if they give a try and get profited on the very first try.

there is no need for convincing because people will stand for what they know is right,but what i am doing is encouraging then to at least take a look in some areas of cryptocurrency that might have their attention and may bring them to realization of what is cryptocurrency and why it was created.

i believe that every human has their own weakness and not because they are showing disagreement meaning that don't like the idea,sometimes they only need to be satisfied in some thoughts and eventually will listen and agree on same matters

being cryptonians we must learn that wayback our years,we also use to deny the call of this community and technology not until we satisfied as well of what this is

Agreed, no need to waste time to explain bitcoin to people who don't like it, even for many people, they wouldn't find it attractive.


Most people are moved by their interests, bitcoin as a currency, bitcoin as freedom, or the fundamentals of bitcoin may not interesting for them, but the most remarkable point of bitcoin is the price which always increases over time. it's not a better perspective for the layman but that happens, people tend to invest in bitcoin in the hope to get more money but they will feel disappointed when the price plummets.

If they are not showing any interest in Bitcoin despite you explaining some features of it, leave them alone. Let them learn about Bitcoin online if they wish to. If they are really interested, they will either do it themselves or they might suddenly give you a call or chat asking about a Bitcoin term or two and what they mean. Some people are hard-headed. Well, let their doubts be slapped by hard chart data showing how Bitcoin is growing.

Just like you, I had grown tired of convincing people. Maybe at first I was like encouraging to join in too but most of them marked it as scam, fraud or whatsoever just because they can’t physically touch it like fiat. The current me is fine with it. I’ll tell you about cryptocurrencies and if you don’t like it then it’s fine I got nothing to lose and I respect what you think it is. It is not worth it to go through the hassle and wasting your time and energy in convincing them.

The success of this industry can no longer be denied by anyone, even those people who are not interest before are beginning to show their support.
We can't please them for now but they are not also exempted when the technology already emerged with the current system. We don't need to convinced them as the future success will convince them that there's reality around this industry.

I still wanted people to know more about cryptocurrency especially my friends and family, although at the moment some of my friends still don't believe in me, as they think I am Investing my money,that's why I am earning a lot. Still, I won't stop telling this advantage to them, this is my way to help them and would like to market crypto to many people as well.

I give information to my brother with bitcoin and altcoin investing, I try to tech them how to understand with bitcoin investment. About my bitcoin data giving to them if have pass how to use bitcoin for buying and selling. I have try many people to understand with bitcoin and altcoin as investment for the future but many of them still worried with bitcoin investment.

My way of engaging people to cryptocurrency is through taking it slowly but sure in a sense that I let them use blockchain technology without them knowing about it. One example is when they want to pay me for fixing their computers, the payment method should be in bitcoin. Since the cryptocurrency is quite well known in our country already, they cash in and pay me. If ever they see the transaction efficient and fast and asks about it. I just briefly explain cryptocurrency to them and the rest will be on their will to study about it.

I gave up talking to my friends who are not interested in bitcoin because they have never experienced it or they just don't want to believe because they don't know bitcoin

Not really convincing them since it's not my loss if they don't want to try crypto. But I do let them know about it or give them awareness about the existence of bitcoin and crypto and its purpose, how it helped me, and how it can helped them. Just the basic pros and cons. But if they are not really interested, I wont push myself just for them to try it. It's not me who's missing things out. Though of course I wanted to help them that's why I try to introduce it to them but if they don't really want, I won't waste my time. I'll go for the people who are interested and willing to learn.

So far, I haven't done it lately. I think its already announced and broadcasted on the television and the internet. Its already about 8 or 10 years or more that it existed. And its all up to non Bitcoiners to decide. Well, I guess we can engage those who really need money or to have additional income. It will serve as a motivation to share and somehow help them in their financial need in a manner that you teach them to work for money not just to simply borrow from you.

And this is what bothers me, what else do they need before they begin to invest in bitcoin? Bitcoin has already existed for 10 years, there is a forum like this one where you can find all the information that you may like about it and that is even part of the history of bitcoin since it was created by Satoshi himself, you'll find many articles all over the Internet about bitcoin and how likely it is that it will be a lot more valuable in the future and if that is not enough to convince them then nothing will.

I think the process should be discussed to them 'cause not all of the people are techy enough to done it by themselves. There are complex softwares and applications that's existing today because of advanced technology so I think that's the reason why they're not engaging bitcoin and need help for the knowledged one.